17:03:38 From Maggie Hellström : Collaborative session notes are at https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ctZKiJ0igXd6gYIugjPKX0R59K0rRRzp12diY9zS2c/edit# - please add your name & contact details! 17:03:52 From John Chodacki : Thank you! was searching for them. 17:04:43 From Maggie Hellström : To avoid confusion, the link I just posted should be the same as noted on the slide - https://tiny.cc/PIDIG 17:05:53 From Jonathan Clark : welcome everyone 17:06:01 From Jonathan Clark : we will be recording this session 17:06:18 From Jonathan Clark : i have to tell you that before we actually start recording 17:08:26 From Maria Gould : I am here! 17:08:45 From Martin Fenner : Me too. 17:08:46 From Sandor Brockhauser : do we have the slides available somewhere? 17:09:47 From Martin Fenner : Multiple slide decks, mine on Common DOI Search is at https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/13L4hncl4sSHzujqgGMfFTVhxUzEzLgvipSA1Dy_JDhM/edit?usp=sharing 17:10:23 From Markus Stocker : Persistent Identification of Instruments slides are here https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Uwyb3bXmusMIMam8z3L-dSNDQ79MWYUIDpvYn_tUR7Y/edit#slide=id.p 17:10:45 From Maggie Hellström : @all speakers: please add those links to the Agenda part of the collaborative notes! 17:15:28 From Wouter Addink : Usually good to have virtual meetings in between to keep things going but difficult to live completely without pgysical meetings 17:15:38 From Markus Stocker : I added a section Slides above Participants. 17:17:43 From Sarah Ramdeen : This might be colloquial, but as a member of RDA TAB, I have noticed that those groups that have meetings between plenaries appear to be very productive. I think the meetings help. 17:18:57 From Mark Parsons : +1 on having virtual and physical meetings 17:20:26 From Martin Fenner : +1 on having both virtual and in-person meetings. I find that doing them in parallel does not always work so well. 17:22:03 From Maggie Hellström : Virtual meetings that are offered multiple times and/or recorded, or at least well documented (comprehensive minutes/notes & slides available), offer more people a chance of finding out what is covered in a session. During purely F2F plenaries, it is often impossible to participate in all sessions on a given theme, as they tend to be scheduled in parallel... 17:24:07 From Jonathan Clark : If you have questions for Markus, can you indicate that here so I can unmute you 17:25:07 From Steven Browdy : I have come to believe, from my experience over the last few years, that physical meetings, especially with respect to intellectual pursuits, completely unnecessary. 17:30:43 From Maggie Hellström : Yes, but in my experience one does need to have a "face to a name", and I'm not sure that a webcam picture is enough. (As stated by a well-known data scientist in Cardiff, nothing beats sharing a beer & pizza in order to establish new collaborations...) 17:31:46 From Rolf Krahl (HZB) : Link to facility: we have owner 17:32:13 From Martin Fenner : I agree with Maggie, virtual only would leave important reasons to go to a conference out. 17:32:46 From Maggie Hellström : I understand that ORCID now allows to register facilities & (larger-scale) instruments 17:37:11 From Jonathan Clark : if you have questions for Maria. please let me know on chat 17:38:08 From Maggie Hellström : How would this tie in to e.g. a registry of measurement sites? 17:39:08 From Maggie Hellström : Sorry, pressed return too quickly - wanted to add: what granularity is desirable - what is the smallest useful organisational unit to be RoR'ed? 17:39:53 From Sarah Ramdeen : Will these slides be posted somewhere? I want to share them with my colleagues. 17:40:27 From Jonathan Clark : Yes we’ll post link from the google doc and/or put them on our RDA page 17:41:12 From Wouter Addink : https://reconcile.ror.org redirects back to the main website? 17:41:18 From Jonathan Clark : there are 3 links up already on the google doc 17:42:15 From Jonathan Clark : https://tiny.cc/PIDIG 17:42:23 From Sarah Ramdeen : Thanks! 17:46:27 From Marie-Claude Deboin : Does ROR use Open Funder Registry? 17:50:30 From Wouter Addink : Would be awesome if we could have the PIDs for our natural science collections in ROR connected with the collection holding research organisations! 17:53:29 From Sarah Ramdeen : Wouter - we have been discussing the feasibility of integrating ROR into SESAR, so that individuals registering samples for PIDs (IGSNs) would use their ROR... etc. 17:55:29 From Maria Gould : @Wouter this is the URL you can use for OpenRefine: https://reconcile.ror.org/reconcile 17:55:54 From Jonathan Clark : are there any questions for Martin? 17:56:53 From Maggie Hellström : How could (or should) already registered (DataCite) PID metadata records be updated to make them compatible (and linked) with all these new resources? If they cannot be extended/updated, should they be flagged as "old" somehow? 17:56:57 From Wouter Addink : @Sarah - Cool, we are implementing GRIDs(+RORs) in ELViS 17:57:16 From Marie-Claude Deboin : On the doi.org website, we can search on all DOIs, can't we ? 17:57:30 From Mark Parsons : Has there been any consideration of the RDA recommended PID kernel in all this? 17:58:32 From tedhabermann : Some data on RORs in U.S. Federal Agencies at: http://wiki.esipfed.org/index.php/Category:Identifying_ESIP_Connections 18:10:04 From Jonathan Clark : we are scheduled to finish in 20 minutes - are there any objections if we run on a little ? 10-15 minutes max 18:10:25 From Mark Parsons : Happy to carry on 18:10:48 From Martin Fenner : Happy to go a little bit longer. 18:11:28 From John Chodacki : fine by me 18:13:54 From Maria Gould : Fine by me 18:15:11 From ricardabraukmann : Fine with me too! 18:15:37 From Milan Ojstersek : Fine for me 18:16:00 From Andrea Medina-Smith : Can you please share the mentimeter code again? 18:16:51 From Jonathan Clark : www.menti.com code 40 77 49 18:24:04 From Wouter Addink : For Natural history collections we have a slightly different approach: we want to introduce one globally adopted identifier, but for digital specimens, which have a 1:1 relation with physical specimens that then can keep whatever identifier the local organisation is currently using 18:26:10 From Wouter Addink : see: https://dissco.tech/2020/03/31/what-is-a-digital-specimen/ 18:26:18 From Maggie Hellström : @Rachel: good point about pidforum.org - I wish more people would move their discussions there! 18:27:17 From Martin Fenner : +1 on pidforum.org to continue PID-related discussions. 18:27:29 From Wouter Addink : +1 18:28:41 From Rachael Kotarski : Thanks Wouter, NHM are part of our project and will be our link into disco. 18:29:51 From Wouter Addink : thanks, good to know 18:30:07 From Wouter Addink : eosc policy: https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3574203 18:30:27 From Jonathan Clark : www.pidforum.org 18:36:25 From Milan Ojstersek : When you Will finish implementation recommendations? 18:43:03 From ricardabraukmann : Thank you everyone! 18:43:05 From Fiona Murphy : thank you! 18:43:05 From Maria Gould : Thank you! 18:43:06 From Marie-Claude Deboin : Thank you very much from France! 18:43:16 From Mark Parsons : Thanks all! Well done