thread_id,id,timestamp,body,subject,author,image_file,image_md5,country_code,country_name,unix_timestamp 74797305,74797305,2016-05-22 20:05:03,"Any empowered vegans here into high endurance or dangerous sports? Heck yeah! Tell us all about your lifestyle. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_mK0nrrsbI",/ VEGAN GENERAL THREAD /,Anonymous,oops.jpg,rhL4vVsMuBoMv0+Fy4NuLQ==,US,,1463947503 74797305,74797591,2016-05-22 20:08:49,">>74797305 It says in the article she died from a lack of oxygen which obviously means her equipment was messed up or she used it wrong. That has nothing to do with veganism. The only published research to examine the athletic abilities/endurance of vegans vs. omnivores found no difference. >bu-bu-but.. I wan't to circlejerk with other people about how I don't like vegans... :^(",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463947729 74797305,74798000,2016-05-22 20:14:09,">>74797591 >vegan detected go eat some grass cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463948049 74797305,74798163,2016-05-22 20:16:07,">>74798000 Veganism has nothing to do with cuckoldry. Enjoy your higher rate of cancer, diabetes, obesity, overall death and heart disease. Me, I'm going to enjoy living a long and healthy life.",,Anonymous,1445454775681.jpg,KKIuiRbRqUc4y+nmjdyYdg==,US,,1463948167 74797305,74798234,2016-05-22 20:16:59,">>74798163 As a cuck. Meanwhile, in Okinawa",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463948219 74797305,74798426,2016-05-22 20:19:30,">>74798163 When you're 95, staring out the window drooling, shitting yourself and having no idea where you are, I'm sure you'll remind yourself that it was worth it.",,Anonymous,1449603556223.jpg,Wjq6N8fmJdb24npL6ur8WA==,AU,,1463948370 74797305,74798438,2016-05-22 20:19:39,">>74797305 >Vegans can do anything except eat meat you faggot, it doesn't matter what you can do if you can't eat meat. Fuck your dietary restrictions",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463948379 74797305,74798736,2016-05-22 20:23:43,">>74798163 >Veganism has nothing to do with cuckoldry. whatever helps you sleep at night",,Anonymous,1463950025064.jpg,POfoLHkcmhPyLklPCVs9Xg==,SI,,1463948623 74797305,74798761,2016-05-22 20:24:04,">>74798234 The Okinawan diet is mostly vegan anyway except for the fish and you can easily get all the good nutrients in fish from vegan sources if you read about where to find them. >>74798426 Meat causes cognitive decline in old age anon. >Our study found that a dietary pattern characterized as higher intake of red and processed meat, peas, legumes and fried food, and lower intake of whole grains was associated with higher inflammatory markers and accelerated cognitive decline at older ages. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26874911 :^)",,Anonymous,1445120252771.jpg,RgIvMCPGMfI6+uj/O9cZbQ==,US,,1463948644 74797305,74799028,2016-05-22 20:27:17,">>74798736 >changing your diet to be healthier means you let people fuck your wife No. Veganism has nothing to do with cuckoldry. Stop letting /pol/ determine your opinion of things instead of reading about them yourself. If you look for them there are plenty of conservative and republican vegans on the web also btw.",,Anonymous,1423885678274.jpg,tTyJRhLNhNdjAYS2DiAaCQ==,US,,1463948837 74797305,74799111,2016-05-22 20:28:30,">>74798761 You can tell your wife's son all about it if he comes to visit you in your nursing home then :^)",,Anonymous,43f.png,zFCJ7+VGOPZJXYweIAVqvw==,AU,,1463948910 74797305,74799160,2016-05-22 20:29:10,">>74797591 >fellow climbers reported that she used a prodigious amount of oxygen to tell other climbers about being vegan and ran out before reaching the summit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463948950 74797305,74799259,2016-05-22 20:30:33,">>74798761 >and you can easily get all the good nutrients in fish from vegan sources if you read about where to find them. That's a lie. It takes way more biomass to get the same amount of nutrients from meat. Unless you're taking supplements, most of which is derived from animal tissue.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949033 74797305,74799384,2016-05-22 20:32:12,">>74799111 I won't be the one in the nursing home because I'm vegan and so I will be less effected by cognitive decline. Stay salty that the only tactic you have to argue against veganism is calling names and saying ""cuck"". :^)",,Anonymous,1429728401153.jpg,TNMgRWKWLiYa+CXIv1w2UA==,US,,1463949132 74797305,74799484,2016-05-22 20:33:10,">>74799028 No, but veganism does have a direct causal link to lowered testosterone, which is a trait common among men who let other men fuck their wives. So the statement stands, overruled, cucklord.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949190 74797305,74799548,2016-05-22 20:34:00,">>74799259 >That's a lie. It takes way more biomass to get the same amount of nutrients from meat. No its not. try naming the things in fish that you need to be healthy and for each of them there are easy vegan sources of them.",,Anonymous,1429729200270.jpg,hSk2ESiDD5hpTNmvyFT7Jw==,US,,1463949240 74797305,74799559,2016-05-22 20:34:10,>>>/b/,,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949250 74797305,74799561,2016-05-22 20:34:10,">soros threads will be immediately deleted >cuckgan threads are totally fine BRAVO JANI",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949250 74797305,74799757,2016-05-22 20:36:36,">>74799160 >Even after running out of strength and falling behind the climbers the 34 year old lecturer kept talking about how her diet enabled her to do anything and that she was ""just as capable"" as other climbers. After consuming double the oxygen necessary to continue babbling about wasteful habits of meat-eaters, she had to rest while the other climbers made the final ascent. Fellow climber Lars Fingler who completed the ascent told our reporter, ""She died as she lived. Condescending to other people about their diet choices."" When asked about if he would be attending her funeral Mr. Fingler made a masturbatory motion before leaving abruptly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949396 74797305,74799811,2016-05-22 20:37:08,I think (and thats how every opionion should start) Eating Meat from time to time is okay....but...the amount of Meat consumed by 1st world countrys is far beyond good & evil...,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1463949428 74797305,74799820,2016-05-22 20:37:14,">>74799548 lmao what a fucking cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949434 74797305,74799875,2016-05-22 20:37:58,">>74799757 Is this serious. Gave me a hearty chuckle",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1463949478 74797305,74799906,2016-05-22 20:38:26,">>74799384 >this is what vegans tell themselves every night before they sleep >implying it's not primarily genetics",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1463949506 74797305,74799916,2016-05-22 20:38:32,">>74799484 Try again anon, vegan diets have been shown to increase testosterone levels >Observational studies between men from different dietary groups have shown that a vegan diet is associated with small but significant increases in sex-hormone-binding globulin and testosterone concentrations in comparison with meat-eaters http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19087438 And don't bother posting studies about soy because its not needed at all as a vegan, I don't eat it much myself and its been shown vegans have higher T anyway. not overruled :^) >mfw refuting bullshit",,Anonymous,IMG_2270.jpg,k77j/urHBcIHGy7acNfspg==,US,,1463949512 74797305,74799948,2016-05-22 20:38:53,">>74799757 Good fucking riddance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949533 74797305,74800018,2016-05-22 20:39:47,Can I be ripped on a vegan diet EXLCUDING soy/estrogen increasing foods,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1463949587 74797305,74800226,2016-05-22 20:42:26,">>74799820 >hurr durr KEK! haha I showed him! hurr I'm unable to post anything worthwhile so I just spam the word cuck because spending time on 4chan convinced me it was a good insult. If anything, you've been cucked by the meat industry into instinctively reacting with hostility to something that makes you a lot healthier.",,Anonymous,1441719873988.jpg,xGEcRWnu0MPue/PqAFYUsQ==,US,,1463949746 74797305,74800284,2016-05-22 20:43:19,BEEF,,Anonymous,,,JP,,1463949799 74797305,74800370,2016-05-22 20:44:31,">>74799384 You misunderstand. I am quite aware that eating meat will make me die younger than if I were to not. So why do I do it? I have absolutely no intention of drawing my life out as long as I possibly can, I would rather die aged 80 rather than 100. A major part of my life is tenpin bowling, something I do many times a week and it has been since I was a young kid, how many 80 or 90 something year olds can still play it? The complete and utter deterioration of my muscles, joints and mind is completely inevitable and will happen to everybody. I would go insane being stuck for 20+ years being unable to do the things l love because I'm too old. I'd seriously rather die. Veganism means I have to give up foods I enjoy AND it would cause me to live past the point where I'd enjoy life. For me, there is no up side to being a vegan. But by all means convince yourself you're going to enjoy life while every facility of your being slowly deteriorates with you being completely powerless to stop it. :^)",,Anonymous,5a0b8e9b6568ae3a07fcff92f4deb4a7555b3e3b_full.jpg,88tkruZOIN5VAMEJj04pqg==,AU,,1463949871 74797305,74800374,2016-05-22 20:44:35,">>74800018 Yes, just google ""vegan bodybuilding"" and there are tons of blogs and sites out there that give all sorts of useful info and advice on what to eat. As I mentioned in the post above yours though being vegan actually increases T levels. Also you will lose unnecessary fat while building muscle so your muscles with stand out even more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463949875 74797305,74800584,2016-05-22 20:47:23,">>74800370 I'm in my early 20's though. 50-60 years from now there will have been huge advances in the type of medicine specializing in making the bodies of 80 year olds look and work as though they are 50.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463950043 74797305,74800841,2016-05-22 20:51:02,">>74797591 the amount of protein and calories required to clime that fucking mountain would mean she would have to carry a fuck ton of bread, the fact that she doesnt have fat on her body means she wouldve frozen to death soonner or later depending upon the condition but the real kicker is bodywheight affecting blood pressure, if she died from a lack of oxygen its probably because her bodyweight was low(as is with all vegans) and with that her chance of her body getting the oxygen of her equipment would be negated from her retarded diet vegans are retarded moralfags who put animals above humans and might as well be the first on the rope",,Anonymous,Prove me wrong vegans.jpg,0urrSmGD24TDpzJg2awo8A==,US,,1463950262 74797305,74801154,2016-05-22 20:55:44,">>74799384 I'm a meat eater. I love me a red bloody steak. God I love me some veal too. Baby animals taste so good. So, instead of trying to tell everyone how you live life and how it's so awesome. Why don't you try being a better person instead of a 1 dimensional vegan cunt.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1463950544 74797305,74801402,2016-05-22 20:59:15,"SO HOL UP *Rips out incisors* HOL UP *Ignores biology* SO YOU BE SAYIN *Sucks cucumber* WE FIN GONNA *Throws red paint at someone* HOL UP HOL UP *Votes Sanders* YOU SAYIN TO ME *Screams at a family eating dinner* THAT WE FIN GONNA *Buys a scooter* BIX GUNNA FINNA *Cries over global warming* HOL UP YO HOL UP *Preps the bull* YOUR SAYIN DAT WE *Dies on Mount Everest* WUZ PLANT EATERS N SHIET?!?!?!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463950755 74797305,74801461,2016-05-22 20:59:54,">>74799384 believing in the GMO jew and eating the anti testosterone foods that they make :P because i dont want to look like dyle poo in loo Indians for the rest of my life. /fit/ is here to get big and strong, even if he lives 5 extra years than me on a starvation diet like many vegans do it doesn't necessarily guarantee my health will be geared towards my goals (you could do intermediate fasting and get the same health benefits of starving without muscle wasting unlike vegans)like you literately need more protein to lift weights than you do for endurance, the only logical reason to stay a meat eater is to be a competitive lifter(Olympic lifting, power lifting, strongman, ect) they would never switch because you need to both stay within your weight class and ensure your lifting optimally, a high fat diet raises your test levels, prove me wrong, it takes more calories to burn protein anyway so cut that out and the fat that's left over is converted to glucose just like carbs would but you'd get the benefit of less insulin response which helps you cut even more weight because you wont be crashing nearly as much as you would on a high carb diet and insulin tends to block ghrellin which is used to control hunger levels so you get 2 birds for 1 stone with eating more fats in your diet, srs try eating 2lbs of steak and 2lbs of oreos and tell me which one is easier to consume, same weight but oreos take up more space. its why wheight loss doctors recomend you wait 20mins before even thinking about eating a second portion why? cuz ghrellin is suppressed with insluin response. endurance athletes benifit from veganism becuase they dont need muscle or fat anyway so who gives a shit its not my sport but you cant expect me to eat an assload of carbs to get my protein and expect me to stay the same weight class especially since fiber reduces bioavialbility(still useful for getting rid of waste and toxins)",,Anonymous,1432772517483.jpg,jcukCgNZX94DMwQH0DEHdg==,US,,1463950794 74797305,74801548,2016-05-22 21:00:54,">>74797305 nothing wrong with vegans. As long as they dont crusade. This thread is just sad. rip",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1463950854 74797305,74801580,2016-05-22 21:01:28,>>74801402,,Anonymous,152.jpg,FOf1wdsdDNco/eaCVLyNBw==,AU,,1463950888 74797305,74801999,2016-05-22 21:07:55,">>74800841 >the amount of protein and calories required to clime that fucking mountain would mean she would have to carry a fuck ton of bread or many of the other nutrition and protein-dense vegan foods like pic related >the fact that she doesnt have fat on her body means she wouldve frozen to death soonner or later depending upon the condition Thats why people wear the proper gear you idiot. Eating meat has little effect on whether you freeze or not, what matters is what your wearing. There is nothing in the article at all that suggests she was ever in danger of freezing to death. As long as you are wearing proper mountaineering gear and do what you're supposed to on the trail then cold is not an issue. All of the research has shown that when compared to omnivores that vegans have a healthier blood pressure and a healthier metabolic status. Eating meat and dairy causes inflammation which messes up the heart and causes blood pressure issues. >vegans are retarded moralfags who put animals above humans and might as well be the first on the rope Not all vegans do it for the morals you idiot, some do it because its been shown to be way healthier for you. >>74801154 1. You have no idea what I'm like in real life and it makes no sense to claim that I'm 1 dimensional simply because I'm posting in this thread. 2. I'm not here trying to tell everyone how to live, I'm just defending something legitimate from stupid and baseless attacks, if people didn't insist on posting easily refutable nonsense about veganism then I wouldn't even be in this thread.",,Anonymous,PLANT-PROTEIN3.jpg,hiTFvpRZvikztvNI31bvug==,US,,1463951275 74797305,74802032,2016-05-22 21:08:24,">>74799384 actually the reason our brains grew is that we began to add more meat to our diet. So intelligence is kinda dependent on being an omnivore. I'm not saying you wouldn't be reasonably healthy if your eating habits will make someone confuse you for a bovine, I mean cows seem pretty healthy to me. And they taste great on a grill.",,Anonymous,every time.png,JCHT900VGHopL+S6paj+Ow==,RO,,1463951304 74797305,74802204,2016-05-22 21:11:20,">>74801999 >a vegan with a higher salt level than a salami sausage How ironic.",,Anonymous,5759634+_90ec5711f71b29c79a4e250b08d49c6e.jpg,nrlhsgf2HtvJnWeF9MiEMg==,AU,,1463951480 74797305,74802216,2016-05-22 21:11:31,">>74801461 Veganism has been shown to increase testosterone levels. Its easy to get tons of protein while vegan if you do your research right. If you eat a mix of certain high-protein green veggies, seeds, nuts, legumes and avocados thoughout the day its not hard at all to get the gram of protein per pound of bodyweight that some people recommend.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463951491 74797305,74802318,2016-05-22 21:13:13,">>74799548 I never said they didn't exist, I said the biomass is greater than just eating meat. Does anyone have the video of the woman eating 10lbs of vegetables to get her daily protein and vitamin requirements?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463951593 74797305,74802370,2016-05-22 21:13:58,">>74799384 >>74800226 >>74799916 >>74800584 >>74800374 Any good tasting vegan stuff? I can't think about many greens that taste well off alone.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463951638 74797305,74802431,2016-05-22 21:14:55,">>74802370 He garnishes them with his excess salt levels",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1463951695 74797305,74802433,2016-05-22 21:14:56,">>74797305 Good little goy... drink your milk.. buy your eggs... eat your cheese burgers. You don't want to die like this silly Europeans. Look how weak they are! You're healthier and stronger then that, my sweet little goy.",,Anonymous,1462256344054.png,IpTkfKy+mEYg9Rgrw0LDvQ==,US,,1463951696 74797305,74802626,2016-05-22 21:18:04,">>74802216 most vegans are on the low fat , low protien meme therefore there recombination to go vegan is retarded majority of america is on the low fat meme and this is good sign of fucking with your testosterone levels so your compareing people who worry about there fitness vs those who dont and your still wrong when you consider bioavailblility and vitamin B12 defiency which fucks up the brain not to mention low iron content of veggies can utterly destroy a chance of a women having her period and problay effects how oxygen and nutrients are transported lets not forget that most dont cook there veggies which further reduces absorption of nutrients making there deficiency worse any diet that you have to supplment with is not an optimal diet, you can surive just fine off of steak and potatoes and still be low calorie and be at a healthy weight, vegans dont realize that we need protien and meat gets us what we cant get from plants",,Anonymous,VegansareTards.jpg,4AVIpg4Uuy2YEfd7k7pEOQ==,US,,1463951884 74797305,74802729,2016-05-22 21:19:35,">>74802204 I'm not salty. As a longtime browser of /pol/ I just enjoy challenging it when people post meme-tier opinions and don't realize the facts contradict them. This is entertaining for me but I also feel good doing it because it spreads knowledge that is good to know. >>74802032 You seem to be confusing the study I cited with the impact of meat on human evolution so I'll explain the difference. 1. The study showed that in old age eating meat is associated with (likely causes) worse cognitive decline. 2. At the point in our evolution when meat changed our brains we weren't living to that age anyway and died way before then. 3. As long as you get the proper nutrients you need to stay healthy your brain and cognitive abilities are not adversely impacted and you get do this while vegan. 4. Just because when we lived short lives meat helped us continue the species during the stone-age it doesn't mean that we should eat it now when we are living long enough lives that it has a negative effect on our brain.",,Anonymous,p6kvfhN6h1s7m3kxo1_500.png,ZYcZmFKW1fWHI3nAGU7pLQ==,US,,1463951975 74797305,74802823,2016-05-22 21:20:55,">>74797305 The media has no fucking shame now. This is a sad story, of people dying fighting for something they cared very passionately about, and their deaths are being spun to destroy the very message they embodied. And we eat it up like fucking animals, because we love to see people die doing something we don't like. But millions die every year from heart disease and complications of high blood pressure. Why would the media push the fact that they're vegan, and that they wanted to represent veganism, but not even discuss any of the science? This just makes me very suspect, she was in very good shape. She had climbed many mountains. Her husband has a heart attack, and then she dies too? And a third? I could understand one person dying, and the rest having to turn back... but it seems very strange they'd all die together like that, even though they were apparently at different levels of health and fitness. Maybe it is just a tragedy, spun by the media... but it just doesn't add up to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463952055 74797305,74803119,2016-05-22 21:24:50,">>74802823 Vegans have a tendency to annoyingly condescend about diet choices. Seeing someone so smug brought low by nature is just too much irony to ignore. Virtue signalling that you care about one dead bitch that you've never met just makes you an asshole. Stop pretending that you give a tiny shit about this ""tragedy.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463952290 74797305,74803158,2016-05-22 21:25:16,">>74802626 >Mfw kinesiologist >Mfw high-fat high-protein plant based diet >Mfw people think I'm on steroids and a liar Just can't win. You do you. Turns out people will only ever hear what they want to hear, and until they want to hear the truth, none of this means anything to these people. That's why they flock to these stories like hungry buzzards, desperate to pick at the rotting carcasses truth, to support the conclusions they've already made.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463952316 74797305,74803244,2016-05-22 21:26:46,">>74802318 That women is a raw vegan which significantly limits her by preventing her from eating high protein vegan stuff like cooked beans and legumes combined with rice etc. Regular vegans don't have to do that. >>74802370 Cooked Kale and Spinach taste great when done right. You can cook a lot of great high-protein vegan mexican style food with beans and rice +avocados and veggies. If you teach yourself how to do it right and which stuff to use you can also cheaply cook restaurant-quality Asian vegan food. I also snack on nuts and seeds a lot. >>74802626 You can easily get tons of protein from vegan sources, see this pic >>74801999. Veganism in general has been shown to increase testosterone levels and to reduce obesity which in men makes them healthier. There are also tons of vegan sources of iron and if you do veganism correctly by eating these its not an issue. You don't need B12 supplements and its been proven in published research that Nori (dried purple seaweed) contains B12 that prevents deficiency in humans and gives them similar B12 levels to omnivores. Some types of tempeh also have it. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24803097",,Anonymous,8e6.jpg,d0pseCBOXO+Ec+WxvGkOfQ==,US,,1463952406 74797305,74803307,2016-05-22 21:27:42,">>74803244 Mean serum insulin-like growth factor-I was 9% lower in 233 vegan men than in 226 meat-eaters and 237 vegetarians (P = 0.002). Vegans had higher testosterone levels than vegetarians and meat-eaters, but this was offset by higher sex hormone binding globulin, and there were no differences between diet groups in free testosterone, androstanediol glucuronide or luteinizing hormone http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463952462 74797305,74803314,2016-05-22 21:27:46,">>74803158 take your vitamin B12 pill and go be retarded somewhere else",,Anonymous,1459815956297.jpg,T0shXpSg1Jdqkbh2Dvl1TQ==,US,,1463952466 74797305,74803468,2016-05-22 21:29:44,">>74803119 >Muh feels are better than your feels Solid argument there. You're satisfying an over-inflated ego, while these people died promoting a message that could literally save lives and reverse diseases. I don't understand why there is so much hatred and animosity towards people who promote health. This is just as bad as social justice warriors fit shaming people for not wanting to live in a country of chronic obesity and diseases. I care about the human race, fucking sue me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463952584 74797305,74803573,2016-05-22 21:31:01,">>74798163 >implying",,Anonymous,file.png,iGrNKIspwGF9KDnlXRnSLw==,CA,,1463952661 74797305,74803823,2016-05-22 21:34:16,">>74803307 >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/ Age (yrs) 52.8 (51.2–54.3) meat 46.3 (44.8–47.9) vegetarian 42.9 (41.3–44.4) vegans T (nmol/l) 19.3 (18.3–20.3) meat 20.5 (19.6–21.4) vegtarian 22.3 (21.3–23.4) vegan ohh looky there a 10 year difference and your slightly higher on T level http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf good on you vegan memer you sure showed me espcialy when after age 30 T levels matter less since your unlikely to breed anyways faggot",,Anonymous,1419803654651.png,oK3PS52FNu40AQLGUNghWw==,US,,1463952856 74797305,74803828,2016-05-22 21:34:18,">>74803468 >I completely reject any chance of me being wrong >I reject the free will and choices of others >I am shocked when people push back when I preach at them The biggest killer right now is sugar. And all of your precious heart disease studies were done when people ate fatty food in conjunction with smoking. Take your faggotry elsewhere.",,Anonymous,1462506844541.gif,EYR+uARA/UdGz/as1bzBlQ==,US,,1463952858 74797305,74803911,2016-05-22 21:35:14,I like freeganism.,,Anonymous,1463950721520-pol.png,YTbVjfQEA2BkfVdYylE8Og==,FI,,1463952914 74797305,74804168,2016-05-22 21:38:12,">>74803573 You're an idiot, you posted this study in a vegan thread two weeks ago and you got BTFO and didn't respond and here you are again posting the same shit. That study was from 2007 and only had 1320 test subjects which is shit when there have been many studies since then that have found vegans/vegetarians are healthier and have a lower risk of disease and those studies have way more subjects then that study. >Recent evidence from large prospective US and European cohort studies and from meta-analyses of epidemiological studies indicates that the long-term consumption of increasing amounts of red meat and particularly of processed meat is associated with an increased risk of total mortality, cardiovascular disease, colorectal cancer and type 2 diabetes, in both men and women. The association persists after inclusion of known confounding factors, such as age, race, BMI, history, smoking, blood pressure, lipids, physical activity and multiple nutritional parameters in multivariate analysis. The association has not always been noted with red meat, and it has been absent with white meat. There is evidence of several mechanisms for the observed adverse effects that might be involved, however, their individual role is not defined at present. It is concluded that recommendations for the consumption of unprocessed red meat and particularly of processed red meat should be more restrictive than existing recommendations. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26780279 > >Vegetarian diets confer protection against cardiovascular diseases, cardiometabolic risk factors, some cancers and total mortality. Compared to lacto-ovo-vegetarian diets, vegan diets seem to offer additional protection for obesity, hypertension, type-2 diabetes, and cardiovascular mortality. Males experience greater health benefits than females. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463953092 74797305,74804338,2016-05-22 21:40:22,">>74803828 We have plenty of killers. Focusing on one is child-like naivety.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463953222 74797305,74804481,2016-05-22 21:42:10,">>74804338 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM but sugar is a metabolic killer and vegans preaching high carb diets on us will only make our population fatter, oh wait it already has",,Anonymous,1459200231902.jpg,ZVHQR7Z7howxtuzbbV5vsw==,US,,1463953330 74797305,74804595,2016-05-22 21:43:34,">>74804338 And being a giant douche and talking down to people is just as bad. Vegans have to focus on their methods if they want to succeed. And if they can't slay the giants they'll have to infiltrate the food industry giants and change them from within.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463953414 74797305,74804693,2016-05-22 21:44:54,">>74803307 Its not that one study there have been multiple studies finding higher T levels in vegans/vegetarians >>74803823 Whatever you think about veganism my point was to show that the research has shown it doesn't decrease T levels despite what memers here think. I'm not gay and if anything I'm more likely to breed because veganism makes you healthier, more attractive and better in bed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463953494 74797305,74804743,2016-05-22 21:45:31,"A lack of carnosine has been noticed as the Achilles heel of vegetarians, and this is especially true with the much more extreme vegan diets. Carnosine is a dipeptide which protects against aging, is a copper and zinc chelating agent, increases the lifespan of cells, is a pH buffer, assists in the contraction of the heart muscle, protects the brain from excitotoxins, and helps to prevent Alzheimer's disease (possibly through its extraction of heavy metals). Carnosine is only found in meat. Some vegetarians try to compensate with supplements, but such attempts are futile, due to the rate at which carnosine is excreted. When 248 mg. is consumed, it becomes undetectable within 5.5 hours. The minuscule synthetic 50 mg. supplements commonly used by vegetarians and vegans are useless.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463953531 74797305,74804872,2016-05-22 21:47:06,">>74797305 Steak tastes good Name one veggie that tastes half as good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463953626 74797305,74804904,2016-05-22 21:47:25,">>74804481 >vegans preaching high carb diets on us will only make our population fatter, oh wait it already has veganism/vegetarianim has been shown to reduce obesity, not make people fatter http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463953645 74797305,74805042,2016-05-22 21:49:23,">>74804693 10 year difference im stating that your study is as flawed as your diet you fucking retard also soy is for goys http://www.foodrenegade.com/dangers-of-soy/",,Anonymous,1462414485966.png,sJegBxmOmnYRO/nwNUjexQ==,US,,1463953763 74797305,74805129,2016-05-22 21:50:37,"I never got this fad diet shit. You're really going to stake your health on an opinion piece from a tabloid newspaper that has about as much actual science in it as an episode of Dr Who? I swear they invent new ""vitamins"" every fucking week when they're not randomly flip-flopping between ""ketchup linked to cancer"" and ""ketchup prevents heart disease."" Just eat what your body tells you it fucking wants. If I crave fruit I eat fruit, if I'm hungry for meat I eat meat. Your body will tell you what to eat, just stop overthinking everything. This is you right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-A4zT8wp8E",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1463953837 74797305,74805162,2016-05-22 21:51:06,">>74804743 Carnosine can be synthesized in the human body from alanine and histidine, both of which are easy to obtain from vegan food. Eating meat causes inflammation which contributes to causing those things significantly more then a low carnosine levels do.",,Anonymous,balloon.png,sniwwKdGj0R/hS+751Hp7g==,US,,1463953866 74797305,74805350,2016-05-22 21:53:59,">>74804481 I'm a proponent for low-carb, high fat/protein plant based diets. As a T1D, the difference between meat based ketogenisis and plant based ketogenisis has literally been night and day. I ate nothing but meats, fats, eggs and made sure to hit my macros and supplemented for vitamins. Occassional leafy greens, plenty of nuts and seeds. Switched to veganism, and my insulin sensitivity increased to the point that within a few weeks, I was using less than a quarter of the insulin. Now, I'm on the verge of not even needing insulin. I'm only a few months in, but I'm fast, stronger, I sleep better, my acne and allergies have disappeared, and again, I'm on the verge of controlling my T1D just with diet. My meat based ketosis was for about 5 years, and I've always had good blood sugar control, but now I've formulated some theories based on my own research and experiences as to why meat based ketogenic diets actually elevates blood sugar. In short, as meat is held in the system for an excessively long time, it ferments, as certain bacterial strains convert those proteins into sugar. The fiber in vegetables cause the contents to pass too quickly for this to occur. I was very puzzled by my blood sugar rising during fasts, even up to 72 hours without eating, and I realised that my body technically was still introducing sugar as it broke down the meat based proteins still in my gut.",,Anonymous,CAM00918-1.jpg,pmWhfL+sOIxDZ2M8gTY9HQ==,US,,1463954039 74797305,74805379,2016-05-22 21:54:18,">>74804693 >veganism makes you healthier, more attractive and better in bed. Holy shit, you just might be the biggest fucking faggot I've ever come across on /pol/.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,fh67fUFEtSTgxDvOo06SaQ==,US,,1463954058 74797305,74805417,2016-05-22 21:54:57,">>74805042 There multiple studies showing increased T http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19087438 Regardless, I don't really care about that though, the point is that its been shown that it doesn't decrease T levels. Veganism is not flawed when almost all of the research has shown that it makes people way healthier and have way less risk of developing some serious diseases. Again for the zillonth time, soy is not needed at all on the vegan diet. >You're really going to stake your health on an opinion piece from a tabloid newspaper that has about as much actual science in it as an episode of Dr Who? In case you weren't aware there are dozens of studies published in mainstream research journals that show its healthier.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954097 74797305,74805568,2016-05-22 21:57:18,">>74805350 All that just to look like a heroin twink.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1463954238 74797305,74805623,2016-05-22 21:58:08,">>74804693 Anon, that is ONE of those studies that finds total T being higher in vegans. Both of the studies in the thread show an increase in sex hormone binding globulin, which seems to offset this increase >>74803823 I should have said that my point was that the increased T didn't matter due to being offset by globulin",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954288 74797305,74805769,2016-05-22 22:00:03,">>74805568 Lol, so abs are only for heroin addicted twinks? Are you a fat sympathizer now? Obesity a disability in your mind?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954403 74797305,74805802,2016-05-22 22:00:26,">>74804693 >vegans are healthier, more attractive an better in bed I'm sorry but I've got to disagree. Vegans are, in the very least, not mentally healthier and definitley not more attractive and better in bed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHCq8wHuApY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954426 74797305,74805817,2016-05-22 22:00:40,">>74805129 This",,Anonymous,2013-02-08-426_Deal-With-It.gif,JJsPZDV1wlAJoY4L++cmXQ==,US,,1463954440 74797305,74805842,2016-05-22 22:00:56,">>74805129 This desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954456 74797305,74805943,2016-05-22 22:02:37,">>74805379 >veganism is healthier because of how it reduces the risk of major diseases http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/ >Vegans are rated by women as having a more attractive body odor http://chemse.oxfordjournals.org/content/31/8/747.full >Fruit and vegetable consumption might have a protective effect against erectile dysfunction http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24295250 >higher habitual intake of specific flavonoid-rich foods (almost all vegan) is associated with reduced erectile dysfunction incidence. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4733263/ :^) BTFO",,Anonymous,1442077642768.jpg,WOCvbbUhzz+VQ4ecQu0V4A==,US,,1463954557 74797305,74805950,2016-05-22 22:02:40,"When will you fucks realize that the best diet is balanced moderation? Cutting any food group out completely will be bad for you in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954560 74797305,74805968,2016-05-22 22:02:56,">>74805417 See >>74805623",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954576 74797305,74806045,2016-05-22 22:03:56,">>74802729 >1. The study showed that in old age eating >meat is associated with (likely causes) worse >cognitive decline it has given the higher cognitive capability, so the decline is steeper, sure >2. At the point in our evolution when meat >changed our brains we weren't living to that >age anyway and died way before then. just guessing-science there >during the stone-age fuck it, i say they ate less meat then",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1463954636 74797305,74806139,2016-05-22 22:05:31,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-xoXbhnFHY,,Anonymous,,,US,,1463954731 74797305,74806164,2016-05-22 22:05:48,">>74805417 Yeah I've heard the same shit about the Atkins diet, the Paleo diet, it's all fucking stupid fads. You evolved to eat meat, you have incisors to eat meat, your body requires proteins in quantities that only meat could provide in the wild, so just eat the fucking meat. Why are you so proud of using incredibly unreliable, expensive and circuitous methods to arrive at the exact same outcome? Even if you get all the proteins and vitamins and minerals and fuck knows what else that you need, and I know you don't because nutritionists don't go on fad diets, all you did was expend a huge amount of time and effort for nothing. And it doesn't ""make you healthier"", you don't even understand what your body needs to be healthy, for every vitamin or protein you read a Wikipedia article about there are 50 you aren't even aware of and couldn't possibly account for. Your body knows what it wants, you just have to listen to what it tells you. I get tired of seeing you sickly, stinky, pale motherfuckers telling people how great their fad diet is while your body fucking rots.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1463954748 74797305,74806186,2016-05-22 22:06:17,">>74805129 meant to quote you in the second half of this post >>74805417 Its been shown by a lot of solid research veganism is healthier >>74805802 see >>74805943 Sakars is in his late 40's and in his more normal pictures he looks way better then most people of the same age. Inflammation is one of the main drivers of age-related degradation of the body and veganism is god-tier for avoiding inflammation.",,Anonymous,1452864989871.png,seHCVoIIH04CsOcaO3xgJA==,US,,1463954777 74797305,74806405,2016-05-22 22:09:09,">>74797305 .... I almost died while climbing several thousands of feet worth of mountain the other day.... not even kidding.... and yet... I am not a vegan. .... I am still here ... WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?",,Anonymous,1461725617136.png,Q6zlGKWXp7hKiBkH2kdN/A==,US,,1463954949 74797305,74806530,2016-05-22 22:10:47,">>74806186 http://naturalhygienesociety.org/diet-veganbaby.html VEGANS are totaly healthy and cogitative people >;D",,Anonymous,bd7.jpg,aXPj3ojngp7zgOLnPA1oqQ==,US,,1463955047 74797305,74806575,2016-05-22 22:11:24,">>74805968 I don't care though, the point is that is it doesn't negatively impact it despite what some people say. >>74805950 The science says otherwise pal, right now most of it indicates veganism is healthier then that. >>74806164 If what your saying is true it wouldn't make sense that vegans have a less chance of getting all sorts of serious diseases which has been proven already so I doubt what you are saying is true. You are arguing from a position of intuition and are arguing against the science and against the facts. See: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/",,Anonymous,-.gif,IbwwTFtSHgyeUOmS1AqLkw==,US,,1463955084 74797305,74806710,2016-05-22 22:13:23,">>74806530 all those people didn't feed their children healthy meals and only feed them 1 or 2 things, those cases have nothing to do with vegetarianism/vegans, they are due to idiotic or uneducated parents",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463955203 74797305,74806800,2016-05-22 22:14:47,">>74805943 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24295250 I'm glad that I'm neither Canadian or Diabetic. I'm also glad that I eat some fruits and veggies http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4733263/ Again, glad I eat some fruits and veggies http://chemse.oxfordjournals.org/content/31/8/747.full Jeez man, a sample size of 17. Didn't you dismiss a study earlier in the thread for having a small sample size? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/ I do view veganism a very healthy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463955287 74797305,74806912,2016-05-22 22:16:15,">>74806800 *as very healthy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463955375 74797305,74806988,2016-05-22 22:17:03,">>74806710 and your implying that majority of the people you wish to convert to veganism are that smart if they feed there kids, milk , and potatos then i gauratnee you they would be fine you cant push it on a entirely retarded populaiton since your diet cant even fucking work to begin with you cant be this retarded",,Anonymous,1461561720559.gif,9ZbdujboapIpp6duSHloog==,US,,1463955423 74797305,74807034,2016-05-22 22:17:44,">>74804693 You are a gay with catamites in your crawlspace.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463955464 74797305,74807397,2016-05-22 22:23:00,">>74798163 Sup fellow vegan brah. Just finished at the gym, am currently eating vegan curry and tofu with coconut rice. Absolutely amazing",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1463955780 74797305,74807599,2016-05-22 22:25:25,"Non-vegans: Hahahaaaa see this article? Vegans BTFO!!! Vegans: yeah, you've got us this time. Time to pack up, go home and order a meat-lovers pizza.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1463955925 74797305,74807716,2016-05-22 22:26:40,">>74797305 it's funny because I hear climbing mt. Everest is like shooting a caged bear anyways",,Anonymous,,,US,,1463956000 74797305,74808162,2016-05-22 22:32:55,">>74806575 >science >facts >studies Yeah guess what else had those? Every other fad diet. Don't patronize me with ""studies"" that you don't even really understand, where the sample size was 30 college students who all shop at whole foods. You should be suspicious of all diets, especially ones prominently featured in media, because there is an agenda to get you to spend money. You're no better than shrill women buying miracle anti-wrinkle cream because an article in Vogue misquoted a study and claims it works. You're one step away from healing crystals and acupuncture therapy. You're so proud of your ""ripped yet somehow malnourished"" physique that you think will get you laid, you're no better than the manlets on /fit/, women don't look at a man and wonder if his body fat ratio is 1.2%, why do you think ""dad bod"" is a thing? What they see when they look at you is insecurity mate, the biggest turnoff. Furthermore, why are you fags always so adamant that you will live longer? You'll be healthier? You'll be 26% less likely to contract this specific form of cancer that you researched on WebMD? Are you so scared of your own mortality? Are you so afraid of dying that you'll sacrifice enjoying the basic pleasures of life for an extra 4 or 5 years of senility? You think because you ate your weight in kale that some horrible, unforeseeable shit won't happen to you as it will to every human being alive? We're all dead men walking mate, nobody knows how or when but you're gonna fucking die regardless of how much tofu you eat, and it's probably gonna hurt and it's probably gonna suck, deal with it.",,Anonymous,get to da choppa.gif,lzSz2k2ExGN/V2kk1VjtEw==,FR,,1463956375 142471878,142471878,2017-09-22 10:50:44,"Original video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYTkM1OHFQg A place for discussing all things vegan health & ethics. - Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 - Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12 - Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) https://www.godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk https://static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes - USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ - Processed meattrash lowers sperm count https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 - Casomorphine in milk is addictive https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738 - Milk gives you prostate cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754 - Milk gives you acne https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483 - Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 - Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/",VEGAN GENERAL - /pol/ will defend this edition,Anonymous,Cow_Farming.webm,vAQ2gXYHLV6INGn+hKKNQg==,AU,,1506077444 142471878,142471988,2017-09-22 10:52:06,"FOOTAGE THE MEAT INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE Land of Hope and Glory (2017) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8 Seaspiracy (2015) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLgkrQSRy9E Lucent (2014) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U Earthlings (2005) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc2oizSsmUs Since we know meatcucks will defend this >inb4 naturalistic fallacy >inb4 might makes right fallacy >inb4 appeal to futility >inb4 amoral autists who think not caring and standing for nothing is a virtue >inb4 faggots larping as hunters >inb4 faggots larping as farmers >inb4 amerifats who think shooting something at 200m is testosteronous >inb4 telling someone to behave ethically is inherently unethical >inb4 free market is inherently moral >inb4 meatcucks triggered by science >inb4 muh canines >inb4 everything gives you cancer MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS.",,Anonymous,vegangf_.jpg,ESG9rIZMPgVinXec3KMVpQ==,AU,,1506077526 142471878,142472418,2017-09-22 10:57:43,But it tastes good though,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506077863 142471878,142472985,2017-09-22 11:04:14,">>142471878 Working with cattle can be really stressful. Cows have different personalities and some of them are little shits. A farmer always has favourites",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506078254 142471878,142473675,2017-09-22 11:12:43,">>142472985 Not really helping your cause here m8",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506078763 142471878,142473806,2017-09-22 11:14:16,"desu these people need to be put to death, only a matter of time before they do this to their children when they act, just fucking deranged behavior.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506078856 142471878,142474539,2017-09-22 11:22:19,">>142473806 You'd have to be deranged to take calves from their mothers at birth and not feel bad",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506079339 142471878,142474650,2017-09-22 11:23:38,The Chinese treats their animals much better I hear.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506079418 142471878,142474723,2017-09-22 11:24:40,">>142473675 I'm sure a lot of humans piss you off. Maybe you'd find it cathartic if certain people were to be harmed or killed. Why wouldn't you feel that way about some animals? Not all cows are the same, some are great to be around, really friendly",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506079480 142471878,142474998,2017-09-22 11:27:49,"People who empathize with animals more than humans are worse than niggers. Those traitors will be right next to the Jew on the day of rope. 'vegan' is just code for 'people hater'",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506079669 142471878,142475150,2017-09-22 11:29:20,">>142471878 They aren't human",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506079760 142471878,142475338,2017-09-22 11:31:16,">>142474998 You will not be missed.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506079876 142471878,142475354,2017-09-22 11:31:25,">>142475150 Highly intelligent analysis",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506079885 142471878,142475361,2017-09-22 11:31:32,">>142471878 Do you understand the difference between abusing animals, and raising them peacefully only for a quick and painless death? No because you saw this one gif, so literally every farm owner must be like that.",,Anonymous,1502646269019.jpg,jMWtqcGGT3gLFiqFJZDLrA==,,,1506079892 142471878,142475506,2017-09-22 11:33:02,">>142471878 lol next time dont be a cow",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506079982 142471878,142475532,2017-09-22 11:33:19,">>142474998 lel, most ridiculous argument ive heard thus far",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506079999 142471878,142475769,2017-09-22 11:35:44,Not politics saged,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080144 142471878,142475882,2017-09-22 11:36:45,">it's a /pol/ literally defends heart disease and lack of self-control because they have to be contrarian and eat meat every meal I wish the MSM would cover this instead of Nazi-larp faggots.",,Anonymous,1245631192491.jpg,Ka7IHWSpxDau3tNi3bV2Jg==,US,,1506080205 142471878,142475961,2017-09-22 11:37:48,">>/fit/ Not politics Cant even go back to fit be because they laugh at you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080268 142471878,142475998,2017-09-22 11:38:16,">>142471878 They love their job+ their mom looks like a cow too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506080296 142471878,142476043,2017-09-22 11:38:41,">>142475361 hashtag notallfarmers XDDDD",,Anonymous,1368219593999.jpg,VOT5p7y1p0A+1BBIKHwySA==,US,,1506080321 142471878,142476114,2017-09-22 11:39:26,">>142475961 /fit/ has a massive vegan presence",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506080366 142471878,142476197,2017-09-22 11:40:15,Footage the meat industry doesn't want pussy faggots to see. Why do you care about livestock?,,Anonymous,,,,,1506080415 142471878,142476331,2017-09-22 11:41:37,">>142476197 because I have moral integrity",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506080497 142471878,142476503,2017-09-22 11:43:26,">>142471878 why is he beating them though?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1506080606 142471878,142476546,2017-09-22 11:43:53,">>142476331 Care about people, not food, you moron. Let us know when they're putting human meat in stuff",,Anonymous,,,,,1506080633 142471878,142476640,2017-09-22 11:44:49,">>142471878 Moralism is a product of excess, anon. You have the resources to make a moral scheme; limitless dietary choices at your fingertips, vitamin supplementation, and all the time in the world to decide your sympathies. People will eat you too. They will murder you, rape your female relatives, and they will feast upon your flesh and burn your home to the ground. Even fido, your pet and companion, would scarcely wait for your corpse to fall to the floor before making a meal of you. Snowball, your cat, would tear you limb from limb if you were small enough and resembled her prey. Enjoy your moral high-ground while it exists, the rest of nature, man and beast alike, will be waiting for you down here in the primordial blood, dirt and shit that has always been and always will be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080689 142471878,142476663,2017-09-22 11:45:07,"Hitler was right to stop eating meat. Meatcucks are disgusting and without morals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080707 142471878,142476718,2017-09-22 11:45:53,">>142476503 Farmers/workers get angry when their cattle wont comply see >>142472985 >Working with cattle can be really stressful. Cows have different personalities and some of them are little shits. A farmer always has favourites",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506080753 142471878,142476724,2017-09-22 11:45:57,"I'm going to eat a good steak this night. Fuck you, aussie, go back to your commie salad and shit, you scum.",,Anonymous,yum-yum.jpg,PYZmEu+rs5T11YQrOz3ixQ==,CH,,1506080757 142471878,142476730,2017-09-22 11:45:58,">>142476503 ca someoe aswer please my keyoard is roke",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1506080758 142471878,142476756,2017-09-22 11:46:14,">>142471878 I've minced a deer's heart at 300 yards, but also ripped the heads of grouse to finish them. Is on more ""testosteronous"" than the other?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080774 142471878,142476774,2017-09-22 11:46:25,">>142476640 That isn't an argument, you too are without sufficient scarcity to justify this. Stop LARPing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080785 142471878,142476863,2017-09-22 11:47:28,">>142476663 Hitler wasn't vegetarian by choice, you dumb fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080848 142471878,142476865,2017-09-22 11:47:30,">>142476718 >farmers get angry so they beat creatures senseless Mcfucking kill yourself you kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080850 142471878,142476920,2017-09-22 11:48:04,">>142476863 Yes he was you retard.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506080884 142471878,142476936,2017-09-22 11:48:11,">>142471878 Im still going to eat meat.",,Anonymous,americans.jpg,pNDxHyfJgu4sPbMtgr4YqA==,IE,,1506080891 142471878,142477022,2017-09-22 11:49:14,">>142471878 Holly shit that video. We either repurpose the use of the word nigger or find a new one that feels fitting for these motherfuckers sons of Satan.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506080954 142471878,142477131,2017-09-22 11:50:28,>>142471878,,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-09-22 at 16.50.01.png,ff72OkOQ6THC8zsPnrOkPQ==,GB,,1506081028 142471878,142477171,2017-09-22 11:50:52,">>142476863 ""Personal accounts from people who knew Hitler and were familiar with his diet indicate that he did not consume meat as part of his diet during this period, with several contemporaneous witnesses—such as Albert Speer (in his memoirs, Inside the Third Reich)—noting that Hitler used vivid and gruesome descriptions of animal suffering and slaughter at the dinner table to try to dissuade his colleagues from eating meat."" Yeah, he was legitimately against it. Fuck off you illiterate kike. Alexander Cockburn writes: ""Nazi leaders were noted for love of their pets and for certain animals, notably apex predators like the wolf and the lion. Hitler, a vegetarian and hater of hunting, adored dogs and spent some of his final hours in the company of Blondi, whom he would take for walks outside the bunker at some danger to himself. He had a particular enthusiasm for birds and most of all for wolves. [...] Goebbels said, famously, ‘The only real friend one has in the end is the dog. . . The more I get to know the human species, the more I care for my Benno.’ Goebbels also agreed with Hitler that ‘meat eating is a perversion in our human nature,’ and that Christianity was a ‘symptom of decay’, since it did not urge vegetarianism. [...] On the one hand, monsters of cruelty towards their fellow humans; on the other, kind to animals and zealous in their interest. In their very fine essay on such contradictions, Arnold Arluke and Boria Sax offer three observations. One, as just noted, many Nazi leaders harboured affection towards animals but antipathy to humans. Hitler was given films by a maharaja which displayed animals killing people. The Führer watched with equanimity. Another film showed humans killing animals. Hitler covered his eyes and begged to be told when the slaughter was over.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081052 142471878,142477197,2017-09-22 11:51:14,"ITT: weak faggots who have never deal with livestock before. Animals are a lot tougher than you think and my bullshit emotional reasons for eating them > your bullshit emotional reasons for not eating them. Stay mad.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506081074 142471878,142477266,2017-09-22 11:51:56,">>142476863 Yes he was, along with Himmler and Hess. Don't fall for kike bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506081116 142471878,142477352,2017-09-22 11:52:49,,,Anonymous,img_1780_h5iclw5.jpg,ywgK3qM40Kf2o5DCqkD6+g==,US,,1506081169 142471878,142477388,2017-09-22 11:53:12,">>142477197 you must be tough aye",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506081192 142471878,142477397,2017-09-22 11:53:19,">>142477197 >my bullshit emotional reasons At least you admit you're a selfish retard with no discipline or dignity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081199 142471878,142477407,2017-09-22 11:53:22,">>142476774 I don't need to justify. Neither does the cat or the dog. You can try justification when someone or something predatory comes to take from you, but that isn't going to be effective. Why do you feel a need to justify? To whom? Is your justification even objective? I don't need scarcity to justify, because I am an animal like all others, and I don't pretend to be above them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081202 142471878,142477437,2017-09-22 11:53:47,">>142471878 Lol, you don't do that to kosher animals. If you want the meat to be kosher you need to make sure the animal dies painlessly",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1506081227 142471878,142477518,2017-09-22 11:54:33,">>142475354 Define ""intelligence""",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506081273 142471878,142477521,2017-09-22 11:54:36,">>142471878 >Processed meattrash lowers sperm count >Crucially, however, none of these variations in diet affected the chance of the couples becoming pregnant after treatment, or having a baby. This means the study cannot prove that processed meat causes lower male fertility >Importantly, the effect of overall meat intake was not related to fertility success, which is the chance of becoming pregnant after the treatment cycles, or having a live birth. >https://www.nhs.uk/news/food-and-diet/does-red-meat-affect-male-fertility/ >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465 >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081276 142471878,142477557,2017-09-22 11:54:56,">>142471878 He's just tenderizing that good old... face meat. Yeah.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081296 142471878,142477567,2017-09-22 11:55:03,,,Anonymous,GLF.jpg,Hr6cVA02CTGatXI1vnWapg==,GB,,1506081303 142471878,142477598,2017-09-22 11:55:20,">>142476043 All black people are stupid. All white people are smart. All women should be in the kitchen. All intelligent people are dicks.",,Anonymous,19122097_841794775961597_4328849365285208064_n.jpg,99VizjVQeJmj2IEBFrj/7A==,,,1506081320 142471878,142477600,2017-09-22 11:55:25,">>142476114 A massive leper colony that has to bring it here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081325 142471878,142477624,2017-09-22 11:55:40,">>142471878 >Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man >Casomorphine in milk keeps you addicted >Milk gives you prostate cancer >Milk gives you acne >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html Also doubt the""milk=prostate cancer"" entirely especially when in the article it says: >Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem. >The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct. >difficult to tell >unrealistic and >What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study. >http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/ >http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html >http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2011.10719992",,Anonymous,Milk doesn't lower testosterone.png,tnBd1JuxxKD02/He/WjjVg==,US,,1506081340 142471878,142477635,2017-09-22 11:55:46,">>142477437 I guess you won't eat us them cause you're killing us slowly, Mr Cumstein",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506081346 142471878,142477699,2017-09-22 11:56:26,">>142477635 It's funnier to have you as pets",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1506081386 142471878,142477725,2017-09-22 11:56:45,">>142471878 >Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer >Meat gives you colorectal cancer >Processed meattrash lowers sperm count >http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/ >https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/ >http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health >https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf >https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/ >https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/ >https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/ >http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/ >https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/ >https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/ >https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us >http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/ >https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/ >http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/ >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365 >https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081405 142471878,142477798,2017-09-22 11:57:33,">>142477407 >because I am an animal >muh naturalistic fallacy The entire range of potential human experience is part of being a human animal you dumbfuck, that includes everything we choose to do and not do, and whatever reasons we employ. You are just cherry picking what you consider ""pretending to be above animals"" and what you don't. A vast array of other activities you do on a daily/weekly basis could be argued to be ""pretending to be above animals"", but you don't care because you're only interested in arbitrary rationalization with no concern for internal consistency. Absolute pseud-trash.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081453 142471878,142477872,2017-09-22 11:58:28,">>142477397 >gives more emotional justification after being called out on his emotional justification wow, almonds are nearly active at this point",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081508 142471878,142477970,2017-09-22 11:59:30,">>142471878 What happens to the animals in the slaughter industry is horrendous. This is something that happens in all countries, rich and poor. There is no reason the rearing and slaughter of these creatures needs to be so outrageously cruel and inhumane. Please do not let the cult of ""vegan identity,"" and the cult of ""anti-vegan identity"" become ANOTHER thing the jewluminati use to get us to fight with each other endlessly. It's not realistic to stop eating animals, but it's also completely understandable to want to stop this cruelty. There are more humane ways to rear and slaughter animals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506081570 142471878,142478041,2017-09-22 12:00:08,">>142477624 i don't buy it, especially since prostate cancer is unheard of in MTF trannies who take progesteron and estrogen daily",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506081608 142471878,142478074,2017-09-22 12:00:31,">>142477872 Thinks the rational ideal of discipline and dignity is affective/emotional in nature. I will bet all the almonds that you have read fewer than 30 books your entire life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081631 142471878,142478111,2017-09-22 12:00:53,">>142471878 So what mental gymnastics do you guys go through to explain the very good health of the Inuits, who pretty much only eat meat?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506081653 142471878,142478132,2017-09-22 12:01:08,">>142475361 humane slaughter is an oxymoron fuckwit",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506081668 142471878,142478240,2017-09-22 12:02:11,those vegan gains,,Anonymous,vegan gains.jpg,5EvxS8oEj9QcV8QK4qj3kA==,,,1506081731 142471878,142478264,2017-09-22 12:02:30,">>142477598 Careful with your dangerous opinions on this anonymous Taiwanese LineRider animation website.",,Anonymous,1318177501111.jpg,VBCh8KqT2VGyzWu9GhGE8w==,US,,1506081750 142471878,142478293,2017-09-22 12:02:51,">>142477798 >choose to do and not to do, and whatever reason we employ Of course. We are both doing this, but you pretend that your arbitrary decision making somehow makes you noble. I call bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506081771 142471878,142478494,2017-09-22 12:04:49,">>142478240 rather those vegans gains than that synthol /steroid pumped up fuckwit that died in a coma there's a limit to being aesthetically pleasing and he entered monster-tier",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506081889 142471878,142478532,2017-09-22 12:05:09,">>142471878 what a piece of shit",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506081909 142471878,142478622,2017-09-22 12:06:12,"Eating meat = condoning animal cruelty. Okay, pol.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506081972 142471878,142478699,2017-09-22 12:06:56,">>142478494 how are your b12 levels doing anon?",,Anonymous,vegan-bodybuilding-funny-bodybuilding.jpg,NzfeKc2KlNQ3LLoRy3XFxw==,,,1506082016 142471878,142478724,2017-09-22 12:07:06,">>142478622 breathing = condoning gassing jews, a literal nazi",,Anonymous,,,,,1506082026 142471878,142478843,2017-09-22 12:08:26,">>142478074 >literally ""read a book, geeze"" the post Prove that discipline and dignity are anything but emotional/affective if you're willing to claim that they aren't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506082106 142471878,142478905,2017-09-22 12:09:00,">>142478622 buying meat = paying for animal cruelty",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506082140 142471878,142479059,2017-09-22 12:10:44,">>142471878 >>142471988 >>142473675 >>142474539 >>142475354 >>142475532 >>142476114 >>142476331 >>142476718 >>142477388 >/pol/ is one person, the post. OK, look. We all know the benefits of eliminating meat from your diet; especially (but not necessarily limited to) red meat. Viable sources of protein are Quinoa, Rice, and Green Peas.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506082244 142471878,142479095,2017-09-22 12:11:13,">>142478905 I don't care about animals , if thats the case vegans kill and slaughter lots of plants too. Vegans = Plant cruelty",,Anonymous,,,,,1506082273 142471878,142479127,2017-09-22 12:11:28,">>142471878 yeah, he showed that bitch who's boss, please post more!",,Anonymous,pepe yee.jpg,1bMCS4oZdMqQWZkYRYRhOA==,,,1506082288 142471878,142479130,2017-09-22 12:11:29,">>142471878 And to think he could've beaten sickly beta vegans instead of baby cows. Its not only easier, but also more pleasant. What a waste of punches that was.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1506082289 142471878,142479135,2017-09-22 12:11:33,">>142478699 supplements are a thing ya know?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506082293 142471878,142479285,2017-09-22 12:13:28,">>142479095 Nice fallacy; plants lack nerves, let alone a central nervous system, and cannot feel pain or respond to circumstances in any deliberate way (not to be confused with the non-conscious reactions they do have). Unlike animals, plants lack the ability or potential to experience pain or have sentient thoughts, so there isn't an ethical issue with eating them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506082408 142471878,142479372,2017-09-22 12:14:11,">>142478532 mad that your wife is getting a woopin ?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506082451 142471878,142479392,2017-09-22 12:14:25,">>142479135 Having balls instead of vagina is also a thing. That's something beta herbivore cucks aren't expected to understand.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1506082465 142471878,142479416,2017-09-22 12:14:41,">>142479135 >taking supplements literally made on sewage sludge insteade of taking them from animals.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506082481 142471878,142479429,2017-09-22 12:14:46,">>142471878 More videos of animals being mercilessly beaten by bestial humans? :'(",,Anonymous,,,,,1506082486 142471878,142479508,2017-09-22 12:15:34,">>142479285 so do you care more about feelz? ,plants are living beings too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506082534 142471878,142479591,2017-09-22 12:16:29,"say.....why do they sterilize a humans arm before giving a lethal injection? >kys Op",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506082589 142471878,142479596,2017-09-22 12:16:32,">No fucks >The thread",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506082592 142471878,142479657,2017-09-22 12:17:12,">>142471878 >gave him a chance >calf doesn't cooperate typical nigger",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1506082632 142471878,142479807,2017-09-22 12:18:54,ITT meatcucks who they're tough for gobbling up a cheeseburger,,Anonymous,Tough.jpg,Ta/vHnq7cYxNGiw7tuF++w==,AU,,1506082734 142471878,142479852,2017-09-22 12:19:22,">vitamin B12 >Vitamin b12 >VITAMIN B12 >https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12 >""Vitamin B12, also called cobalamin, is a water-soluble vitamin that has a key role in the normal functioning of the brain and nervous system via the synthesis of myelin (myelinogenesis)[1][2], and the formation of red blood cells. It is one of eight B vitamins. It is involved in the metabolism of every cell of the human body, especially affecting DNA synthesis"" >The UK Vegan Society, the Vegetarian Resource Group, and the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, among others, recommend that every vegan who is not consuming adequate B12 from fortified foods take supplements. Tl;dr or too retarded;didn't understand (bcz lack of b12 vit) Without b12 you will become retarded and you have higher chance of having cancer. And b12 is only available in meat. And b12 in supplements is extracted from bacteria from animals intestines (which is against the ""they aren't ours!"") Basically if we stopped consuming b12 most of us will die or suffer and the coming generations will be as smart as apes.",,Anonymous,1505994751640.jpg,85LBPB8YHv0Um1BdzHJc+g==,,,1506082762 142471878,142479957,2017-09-22 12:20:32,">>142479852 Well techonology was a mistake so I'll gladly return to apedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1506082832 142471878,142480011,2017-09-22 12:21:06,">>142479852 Read OP, easy to get B12 on a vegan diet",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506082866 142471878,142480027,2017-09-22 12:21:15,>>142471878,,Anonymous,1474838108429.png,AyA5RPlTkyuJ4xaNR72zlg==,CA,,1506082875 142471878,142480181,2017-09-22 12:22:56,">>142476640 pretty much all of this. You don't see vegans in starving countries, oh hell you don't see a lot of quirks too, no ocd, no depression, no atheism no nothing, to some being wealthy is their biggest downfall. About b12, vegans need to make up their goddamn mind, some of them say it's useless to begin with, others take supplements for it, what's up with that? I wouldn't care about their uncoherency, shit i don't care for vegans, then again if they didn't bust the balls of everyone around them, nobody would give two shits about them",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1506082976 142471878,142480229,2017-09-22 12:23:18,">>142480011 What is the point if it's extracted from ""not ours"" intestines",,Anonymous,,,,,1506082998 142471878,142480408,2017-09-22 12:24:54,">>142477725 >Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer it's also the most compatible one and you assimilate most of it unlike non-heme iron that takes a LOT more to achieve the same intake. Unsurprisingly most vegans are anemic.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1506083094 142471878,142480470,2017-09-22 12:25:36,">>142480229 B12 is produced synthetically/ by bacteria directly, without the use of animals. In fact livestock itself is supplemented with B12",,Anonymous,CattleB12.gif,sUwKVNaRaYU5mw1KU2XAKg==,AU,,1506083136 142471878,142480476,2017-09-22 12:25:40,"True nationalists treat every part of the land with respect, the animals included, anyone else is just an edgy larper.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506083140 142471878,142480724,2017-09-22 12:28:15,">>142479807 Did you faint from weakness while typing that out?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506083295 142471878,142480865,2017-09-22 12:29:44,">>142480181 Isn't it funny how a lack of outside pressure distorts the mind of first-worlders? Suddenly, without real concerns, they have to develop new ones. Hollow concerns that can never be satisfied in reality because they do not exist in reality. Hence veganism, feminism, scientific fetishism, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506083384 142471878,142480894,2017-09-22 12:29:57,">>142480408 loads of vegan iron sources",,Anonymous,VeganIron.jpg,qoPq4+sXPcJa4d2Ou99iSg==,AU,,1506083397 142471878,142480931,2017-09-22 12:30:19,">10K calories. Meme diet it shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506083419 142471878,142481002,2017-09-22 12:30:58,">>142478264 WRITERED",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1506083458 142471878,142481031,2017-09-22 12:31:11,">>142471878 Cow punching? Veganism is a cult and a dangerous one responsible for the abuse of children by feeding them a diet that stunts their development. These are people so retarded they try to feed cats a vegan diet. Human beings are omnivores and need animal protein to prosper.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506083471 142471878,142481177,2017-09-22 12:32:24,">>142481031 Clearly no understanding of nutrition",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506083544 142471878,142481363,2017-09-22 12:34:27,">>142481177 >clearly How so?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506083667 142471878,142481483,2017-09-22 12:35:45,">>142480865 >without real concerns Endless suffering, pain and torture is a real concern. Refraining from supporting industries that cause said suffering is the action one takes to address that concern. If you're too selfish and weak to care about anyone other than your own desires you could see that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506083745 142471878,142481512,2017-09-22 12:35:59,">>142480470 The bacteria is extracted from animals intestines you dumb fuck. Also isn't the manufactured b12 against the ""eat organic only"" and the ""manufactured is bad"" that all vegans believe?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506083759 142471878,142481633,2017-09-22 12:37:07,">>142481363 Animal protein is absolutely not necessary for human health/prosperity. You can get all the animo acids you need in abundance from plants",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506083827 142471878,142481643,2017-09-22 12:37:12,">>142480894 Their ideology is the biggest source of IRONy",,Anonymous,,,,,1506083832 142471878,142481840,2017-09-22 12:39:00,">>142480894 like i said, there's an organic iron (heme) and unorganic one, the latter is harder to be absorbed, also fibers (contained in pretty much every vegetable?) and phytic acids makes it even harder to be absorbed. Your nice chart only shows how much iron is contained in 1 cup of whatever food, which doesn't translate to the ammount absorbed. Hell heme iron is not entirely absorbed, you reckon a non organic iron would have any easier life?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1506083940 142471878,142481929,2017-09-22 12:40:00,">>142481512 No it isn't. The bacteria isn't created inside the animal so you don't need to use animals at any stage. not all vegans are invested in that, like myself",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506084000 142471878,142481941,2017-09-22 12:40:08,">veganism is the natural state of mankind >has to buy artificial suplements to be alive.",,Anonymous,veganb12.jpg,xWlLZqi+tcm16cj7Y9hM2w==,,,1506084008 142471878,142481975,2017-09-22 12:40:28,">>142479957 >After thousands of years we are finaly getting closer to a safe and peaceful future thanks to technology and AI >Let's just throw all this in the trash because some sensitive people are feeling sad Your lack of vitamin b12 is showing anon",,Anonymous,,,,,1506084028 142471878,142482088,2017-09-22 12:41:33,">>142481483 >Endless suffering, pain and torture is a real concern in first world countries you get that? you clearly didn't understand what the other anon said and i would dismiss you saying ""burger education"" but unlike you, that other anon is well read.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1506084093 142471878,142482090,2017-09-22 12:41:33,">>142481941 clearly didnt read OP, animals are not the only sources of B12",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506084093 142471878,142482360,2017-09-22 12:44:14,">>142482090 a korean dish consisting of fermented bacteria , uhmmmm , YUMMY I cannot imagine the bad breath vegans would have.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506084254 142471878,142482647,2017-09-22 12:46:59,">>142481483 Suffering and pain have always existed and always will. Advertising your sympathy with that fact won't help. Insulting me because you are angry about it won't either. Even if I am weak, does that make you strong? Are you strong enough to accomplish your goal of ending misery forever? No, of course you aren't strong enough. If I am selfish, does it make you generous? How much can you give? Enough to end all of the need in others? Why don't you give everything? Not generous enough, I guess, either. You may be strong and generous, and I will be weak and selfish, and neither of us, in the end, will be enough to combat the nature of existence, with all of its pain and misery. I am content.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084419 142471878,142482757,2017-09-22 12:48:19,">>142481633 Are amino acids all that are necessary in nutrition?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084499 142471878,142482789,2017-09-22 12:48:39,">tfw I have kicked a cow really hard in the hips, beat them with a stick and used a cattle prod on them >tfw I have force fed a cow sugar water Most people who own dogs just subconsciously want a little retarded slave btw.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506084519 142471878,142482926,2017-09-22 12:50:03,">>142471878 Fuck you faggot. I'll eat meat until the day I die.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084603 142471878,142482946,2017-09-22 12:50:13,">>142482647 stop larping faggot >>142482757 some are. and they are called ""Essential"" for a reason.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1506084613 142471878,142483022,2017-09-22 12:51:02,">>142482757 with regards to protein (made of amino acids), yes",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506084662 142471878,142483157,2017-09-22 12:52:32,">>142471878 Veganism is sociopathy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084752 142471878,142483224,2017-09-22 12:53:11,">>142482360 sauerkraut, a traditional European food, is fermented and contains B12",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506084791 142471878,142483346,2017-09-22 12:54:35,">>142475882 Obesity causes hear disease, not meat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084875 142471878,142483426,2017-09-22 12:55:28,"This is now a /meateaters/ thread. How do you anons like your steak? Rare-Medium Rare here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084928 142471878,142483436,2017-09-22 12:55:33,">>142476114 No, it has literally one dedicated shitposter. The fit thread is stalled because he's here right now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084933 142471878,142483538,2017-09-22 12:56:39,">>142482946 What am I supposed to be role-playing as?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506084999 142471878,142483592,2017-09-22 12:57:18,">>142471878 >a few people are psychopaths that abuse animals >therefore everyone must be vegan",,Anonymous,retarded.gif,OWkC4nBo0yG/qhfLtTm6PA==,,,1506085038 142471878,142483603,2017-09-22 12:57:22,Vegans care more about animals than humans. I'd wager most are pro abortion and atheist too.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085042 142471878,142483613,2017-09-22 12:57:29,,,Anonymous,1505473550128.jpg,EITZBHpzkO8xFNJRhe2G3Q==,GB,,1506085049 142471878,142483625,2017-09-22 12:57:35,">>142483022 Fair enough.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085055 142471878,142483729,2017-09-22 12:58:44,">>142471878 The correlation between male adult vegans and being raised by single mothers is pretty hilarious.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506085124 142471878,142483752,2017-09-22 12:59:01,">>142471878 Vid unironically gave me a boner",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506085141 142471878,142483925,2017-09-22 13:00:40,The most healthy diet you can eat is majority vegetables with some unprocessed meat. Carbs which are a staple of vegan diets are way more unhealthy than animal products.,,Anonymous,1401252442603.jpg,NhOnfPdWrH/v2S3EhksE5w==,,,1506085240 142471878,142483941,2017-09-22 13:00:54,">>142483436 OP here, only start like one third of vegan generals on /fit/",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506085254 142471878,142483998,2017-09-22 13:01:29,"I'd probably be vegan if I didn't lift. I completely understand the arguments for veganism and I actually think it's right, especially considering the complete lack of necessity for physical strength in the modern world. But for whatever reason being physically strong and getting larger muscles is important to me. >You can get enough protein from lentils and tofu, bro Yeah no. And yeah, clarence0 is huge and strong and vegan, and he's on steroids. I'm not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085289 142471878,142484021,2017-09-22 13:01:38,">>142482647 I understand your point, and I apologize for insulting you. I was just trying to illustrate my point; obviously it wasn't directed at you personally. Of course one cannot end suffering and misery forever, but they can choose to reduce their participation in it at an individual level. If we all chose a more peaceful path, wouldn't that lessen the needless suffering in the world? Doing what we can on a personal level to reduce our harm unto ourselves and others is as much as we can do. For some, that's choosing a vegan lifestyle. No need to degrade them for that. Some vegans, just like anyone else, antagonize others who don't follow a similar path. Some meat eaters do the same thing. Both, in my opinion, do little to influence each other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085298 142471878,142484049,2017-09-22 13:01:59,">>142483426 Blue. It should still be mooing by the first bite.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085319 142471878,142484072,2017-09-22 13:02:14,">>142483592 conditions alone a clearly disgusting, look at the other vids linked in OP",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506085334 142471878,142484155,2017-09-22 13:03:21,">>142483941 You and I both know that's not true",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085401 142471878,142484171,2017-09-22 13:03:28,">>142483998 you obviously can hit your macros and protein easily on a vegan diet",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506085408 142471878,142484270,2017-09-22 13:04:19,">>142483346 >eating meat three times a day everyday is healthy for you Srsly go fuck yourself",,Anonymous,,,,,1506085459 142471878,142484352,2017-09-22 13:05:10,">>142484171 I don't believe it, at least not without also eating a ton of carbs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085510 142471878,142484463,2017-09-22 13:06:23,">>142471878 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyvlYBGORYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FL999zlUo4",,Anonymous,1496009541864.png,YJsWm6au22m7KaPKa8iTqA==,RU,,1506085583 142471878,142484475,2017-09-22 13:06:30,">>142483998 >I completely understand the arguments for veganism and I actually think it's right Yes, such compelling arguments as ""muh cows"" >especially considering the complete lack of necessity for physical strength in the modern world. Yeah, who needs to move furniture or carry a person, and why even try to stave off sarcopenia",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085590 142471878,142484547,2017-09-22 13:07:18,">>142484270 It's not unhealthy as long as you aren't overweight and avoid nitrate salts",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085638 142471878,142484656,2017-09-22 13:08:24,">>142472985 >>142476718 TIL all farmers have tiny dicks",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506085704 142471878,142484694,2017-09-22 13:08:44,">>142484352 There's people on vegan ketogenic diets. If you think you can't hit your macros you're wrong",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506085724 142471878,142484797,2017-09-22 13:09:41,">ALRIGHT CALF, NOW YOU MADE ME MAD Holy fucking kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085781 142471878,142484835,2017-09-22 13:10:04,">>142484475 >who needs to move furniture You rarely need to move furniture. And yes, this is also literally the last thing requiring physical strength that we have left in modern society other than physical blue collar work like landscaping >or carry a person When was the last time you had to carry a person? I can safely say I've never had to carry a person in my life. I'm not suggesting that people in the army don't need to be strong if that's what you're saying",,Anonymous,1385130623301.png,Y2ydhyW2e0rnrxkuB3qkdw==,US,,1506085804 142471878,142484929,2017-09-22 13:11:03,">>142484694 >There's people on vegan ketogenic diets That's literally impossible unless you eat like, just vegan protein powder and vegetable oil",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506085863 142471878,142485068,2017-09-22 13:12:40,,,Anonymous,aa.jpg,+8GKPdXgCN7Zv5uFaQwaoQ==,,,1506085960 142471878,142485182,2017-09-22 13:13:57,">>142484694 >vegan ketogenic diet >eating an entire kilogram of tofu every day I mean, I don't wanna be that guy that doesn't wanna sacrifice meat because it tastes good, but I'm gonna have to pass on KOTAD",,Anonymous,lcprot.jpg,LgIxC+XUvysUADphcGeJmw==,US,,1506086037 142471878,142485237,2017-09-22 13:14:40,,,Anonymous,damned-vegans_o_3762653.jpg,puk+tAyVRqxBueJuugl5Qw==,,,1506086080 142471878,142485310,2017-09-22 13:15:39,">>142484835 You never do any physical work and don't even care to be physically capable of helping people or even yourself, yeah, might as well just let your body degenerate into a skinnyfat sack of skin and adipose, you fucking faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506086139 142471878,142485373,2017-09-22 13:16:20,If everyone just switched to egg whites and multivitamins the world would be a better place,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506086180 142471878,142485426,2017-09-22 13:16:59,">>142485237 2 cases is not exactly a good research",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506086219 142471878,142485469,2017-09-22 13:17:29,">>142485182 There's plenty of non soy based ways to be keto. To state the obvious, non soy based mock meats",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506086249 142471878,142485532,2017-09-22 13:18:20,">>142481975 >safe and peaceful future Full of trannies, diseases, crazy fucks and sexual deviancy. I eat meat btw",,Anonymous,,,,,1506086300 142471878,142485606,2017-09-22 13:19:11,">>142485310 >don't even care to be physically capable of helping people or even yourself Obviously I do because I lift, retard. The point is I can see the argument for why physical strength isn't really necessary anymore. I lift 4 times a week but how often do I actually employ ""functional strength""? Like a few times a year? I'm not out working the fields every day. Again, it's different for people who are in the armed forces or still work in physically demanding jobs, but the majority of us are office-dwelling wage slaves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506086351 142471878,142485615,2017-09-22 13:19:18,">>142475150 >they aren't human You aren't even AI. I think I should just gut you for fun honestly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506086358 142471878,142486019,2017-09-22 13:23:39,">>142485606 He lives in his appartment, he doesn't maintain his own home or vehicle. Neither his job nor any of his hobbies are to any degree physically strenuous. I can see now why city cucks are so prone to veganism or vegan-sympathy, they are immesurably sheltered",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506086619 142471878,142486088,2017-09-22 13:24:23,">>142485426 Doug graham on the left is a vegan and looks like shit ,durian rider looks awful now and its a vegan too.",,Anonymous,douggrahamdurianrider.jpg,P99kcOEimpk7vKGhU+dJpw==,,,1506086663 142471878,142486199,2017-09-22 13:25:34,">>142485615 lol calm down nerd",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506086734 142471878,142486367,2017-09-22 13:27:06,">>142472985 I can understand giving it a shove but this is just psychopathic",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506086826 142471878,142486510,2017-09-22 13:28:35,">>142484021 For some people, doing what they want is expressed through doing what they think is morally right. But still, they do only what they want. (Outside the confines of slavery or necessity, whatever the case may be) If they are doing only what they please, why do they demand celebration? Or is exaltation their ultimate goal? Why was this thread created? Why the hostile assumption of superiority? If they cared for the animal more than themselves, they would spend their time helping animals rather than seeking praise on a Mongolian wood-lathing forum. There are those who quietly do good as they understand it for good's sake, and there are others.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506086915 142471878,142486774,2017-09-22 13:31:09,">>142485532 How? If robots work for us and protect us, Where is the unsafety? Also Arguing with trannies/other degenerates seems a lot more peaceful than smashing someone's head with a rock because he made your warm red thingy go away",,Anonymous,,,,,1506087069 142471878,142486931,2017-09-22 13:32:43,">>142486367 Have you ever tried moving a cow that doesnt want to move?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506087163 142471878,142487114,2017-09-22 13:34:32,">>142486510 I agree to an extent. While these threads can seem to be at least somewhat hostile, I think OP is trying to raise awareness to the plight of animals. So, in that regard, they *are* helping, in a sense. Sometimes, perhaps doing ""good"" quietly isn't enough.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506087272 142471878,142487182,2017-09-22 13:35:09,">>142477437 Kosher and halal slaughter alike are literally the worst things you can do to an animal Would YOU rather be beheaded, or be stunned and then killed?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506087309 142471878,142487341,2017-09-22 13:36:39,">>142486931 He's probably never even seen a cow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506087399 142471878,142487374,2017-09-22 13:36:59,">>142486931 >Says the guy that used to shoot people in the head because they refused to walk Hypocritical germany. Hypocritical...",,Anonymous,,,,,1506087419 142471878,142487481,2017-09-22 13:38:02,">>142487114 Raise awareness of what? That animals are killed at slaughterhouses? Perish the thought, how could they decieve us so!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506087482 142471878,142487582,2017-09-22 13:38:58,">>142486367 I didn't think /pol/ would actually be autistic enough to defend it, but they are",,Anonymous,1505640485838.jpg,cPMzXqBftCxceSR8XUgO/A==,AU,,1506087538 142471878,142487676,2017-09-22 13:40:03,">>142474998 I would kill you to give my doggo 3 more days of life with a lack of hesitation that would make your head spin faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506087603 142471878,142487758,2017-09-22 13:40:51,">>142471878 Animals can be dicks. A pig on a hog farm tried to bite my fucking cock off so I punched that sumbitch in the face. Would have given him a couple more, but he ran off into the pile of 79 other hogs in the pen and they all look alike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506087651 142471878,142487791,2017-09-22 13:41:14,">>142480470 >>142481929 >Animals store vitamin B12 in liver and muscle and some pass the vitamin into their eggs and milk; meat, liver, eggs and milk are therefore sources of the vitamin for other animals, including people.[5][7][25] For humans, the bioavailability from eggs is less than 9%, compared to 40% to 60% from fish, fowl and meat.[26] Insects are a source of B12 for animals (including other insects and humans).[25][27] >Animal sources with a significant content of vitamin B12 (range among top 20 sources of 50 to 99 µg per 100 grams)[28] include clams, organ meats (especially liver) from lamb, veal, beef, and turkey, fish eggs, mackerel, and crab meat.[4][5] >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Animal_sources",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506087674 142471878,142487963,2017-09-22 13:43:03,">>142487791 literally only copy and pasting the animal sources part. Read the rest of the article you dumb cunt",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506087783 142471878,142488030,2017-09-22 13:43:47,">>142480894 jesus christ you must be fucking retarded",,Anonymous,,,PE,,1506087827 142471878,142488033,2017-09-22 13:43:51,">>142487182 Stunning animals before halal slaughter is standard practice in Germany. Muslims are still degenerates though.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506087831 142471878,142488306,2017-09-22 13:46:58,">>142487758 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1506088018 142471878,142488905,2017-09-22 13:53:38,">>142471878 >""you dirty cow you killed my parrents"" >""moooooooooooooh"" >""what did you say? my mom was a sain"" >makes sick wrestling move >crowds cheering",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1506088418 142471878,142489084,2017-09-22 13:55:36,"Sorry for the presumably obnoxious way of responding to everyone. I'm doing it in the hopes of helping the animals. If you see a (You) read. Else hide and ignore. >>142486088 DR is a known drug addict >>142485237 >cherrypicking >>142485068 The food that was given to the cow you ate took up even more space. Google feed to flesh conversion ratio >>142484929 Avocados, nuts, leafy greens, tofu, tempeh, seitan, mock meats etc are game too >>142484463 Amazing role model 10/10 >>142483998 >I'd probably be vegan if I didn't lift How much protein do you think you need anon? 0.8 g per pound (1.8 per kg) of LEAN body mass is all you need. You can easily get that with pasta, rice, potatoes, legumes, pb etc. For a normal, natty adult male at 93 kg and 12% bf it's 140 g. That's easily attainable within 2500-3000 kcal. >>142483925 >some unprocessed meat There is absolutely no benefit in eating meat, it provides no nutrient you can't get elsewhere >>142483592 There is literally no way to take a sentient being, ""turn it into"" chopped up pieces of meat, and say that you did something magical and humane in the process. You should look at the triplenigger in the OP video as a metaphor for what happens. You're still killing someone who doesn't want to die. >>142483436 As you see by the different flags, it's more than one. And as you see by the way we speak, it's not shitposting. It's a red pill. Take it, or believe whatever you want to believe >>142483157 Carnism* is sociopathy Veganism is compassion >>142481941 Except the OP literally said ""inb4 naturalistic fallacy"" Natural =/= good. Cobra poison, hurricanes, sharks and earthquakes are natural. Unnatural =/= bad. Vaccines, cars and computers are unnatural.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506088536 142471878,142489164,2017-09-22 13:56:26,">>142487114 Isn't enough for them? Isn't enough for what? Is there an ""enough"" that could be reached by being loud? Does that enough change between members of a movement? The enough you speak of probably refers to your ideal of it. Others enough would be nothing. I understand what OP wants, and what his position is, but he cannot prove that his ideals are paramount. Yet he loudly proclaims them as so, while sacrificing the ability to practice them in the meantime. The only person his ideals matter to is himself, so why not spend his time practicing them to self satisfaction? The need to have his ideals recognized as superior seem more important than practicing his ideals. This, to me, seems more like attention seeking than do-gooding. >>142487481 Also, this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506088586 142471878,142489276,2017-09-22 13:57:34,"meat eaters are fucking retards I literally tell people who ask me how i lost 15 lbs that I just stopped eating meat I literally show my family members who insisted I was ""unhealthy"" for abstaining from meat my test results showing the best shape ive ever been and no more high blood pressure -a problem ive had since i was a fucking kid- and they still act like im the one doing something weird and unnatural by being healthier than ever",,Anonymous,,,,,1506088654 142471878,142489529,2017-09-22 14:00:14,">>142487582 >cows are the same as dogs >pens are the same as carrying cages without standing room",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506088814 142471878,142489564,2017-09-22 14:00:36,">>142489084 A fish is not someone, in the same way a plant is not a fish. Not all animals we eat are sentient. Lobsters, for example, have simple nervous systems very similar to insects. If awareness is a sliding scale, how high up or down do we go before we decide we cannot eat it? Is that decision your arbitrary opinion?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506088836 142471878,142489838,2017-09-22 14:03:15,">>142489564 Lobsters are sentient. Sapience is another question",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506088995 142471878,142489873,2017-09-22 14:03:32,">>142489276 Not everyone has so shitty willpower that they have to switch to eating foods that are mostly water to lose weight instead of simply eating fucking less food",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089012 142471878,142489988,2017-09-22 14:04:43,">>142489529 >cows are the same as dogs What is the difference in your opinion, anon? >>142489564 >A fish is not someone I didn't say that it is. However, I will just point out that fish aren't ""something"" either. >in the same way a plant is not a fish. Uh huh >Not all animals we eat are sentient. Lobsters, for example, have simple nervous systems very similar to insects. Vegans don't eat insects so lobsters aren't game, I am not sure what argument you're trying to make >If awareness is a sliding scale, how high up or down do we go before we decide we cannot eat it? Is that decision your arbitrary opinion? Aware? Don't eat it Unaware? Eat it Unsure? Don't eat it > Is that decision your arbitrary opinion? It is a decision I am supporting and you are free to disagree.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506089083 142471878,142490128,2017-09-22 14:06:02,">>142487676 >>142475532 >>142475338 >literal autists with zero human compassion or empathy detected what else can you expect from subhuman vegcucks",,Anonymous,3526775432.png,xVdcNlClTOcj4ojbXnoBdQ==,US,,1506089162 142471878,142490223,2017-09-22 14:06:58,">>142489838 That's a pretty strong statement. Proving that something has subjective experiences would be pretty difficult to do. What is your working definition of sentience?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089218 142471878,142490325,2017-09-22 14:08:01,">>142478132 Then I guess we should just appeal to your delicate sensibilities and universally stop killing things. Oh wait, that's never going to happen because we live in reality, not vegan fantasy land. Sorry :^)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089281 142471878,142490405,2017-09-22 14:08:44,">>142487963 >Read the rest of the article you dumb cunt If you're really insluting me and shitposting like this, reading the rest of the article is what you clearly should been doing instead. >>142489084 >There is absolutely no benefit in eating meat >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365 >http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127 >https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health >>142487791 >it provides no nutrient you can't get elsewhere >http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants#section1 >https://dailyhealthpost.com/4-brain-nutrients-found-only-in-meat-fish-and-eggs-not-plants/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089324 142471878,142490513,2017-09-22 14:09:35,">>142471878 oh my fucking god only sadists do that shit I just want to beat the fuck out of that man, and with my rage even as a lowly woman I would render that fuckhead unrecognizable. Jesus help them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089375 142471878,142490620,2017-09-22 14:10:34,">>142471878 Some slaughter houses are worse than others. here, have an unbiased depiction of the meat industry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmHiZQRaso0",,Anonymous,,,,,1506089434 142471878,142490642,2017-09-22 14:10:47,">>142489988 >What is the difference in your opinion, anon? In the context of the picture, the underlying assumption that cows and dogs have the same preferences for spacing is wrong. In most cases cows elect to stand in tight packs even in open pasture. More importantly, cows are fucking dumb as a sack of bricks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089447 142471878,142490770,2017-09-22 14:11:50,">>142471878 YEAH BABY, PUNCH THAT COW AND RIGHT NOW I'M EATING BREAD WITH HAM, FUCK YOU BITCH!",,MEAT,,,IT,,1506089510 142471878,142490781,2017-09-22 14:12:00,">>142490128 I'm either eating sushi or steak tonight can't decide. Nice try though faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089520 142471878,142490821,2017-09-22 14:12:22,">>142490642 baseless statement about the intelligence of cows",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506089542 142471878,142490858,2017-09-22 14:12:41,">>142476718 Fuck you with a cactus, abusing animals or kids is the lowest a person can go. You are a heartless motherfucker.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089561 142471878,142490881,2017-09-22 14:12:54,">>142489988 >It is a decision I am supporting and you are free to disagree. I have literally no problem with this. I appreciate your humility. >Aware? Don't eat it. What do you think about plants that have simple reflexes, like the Venus Fly Trap? It exhibits reactions to its environment by means of a simple nervous system. Is it different than a cockroach? In what way? At what point is a thing aware?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089574 142471878,142491045,2017-09-22 14:14:26,">>142490513 No you wouldn't lol you're too weak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089666 142471878,142491049,2017-09-22 14:14:28,">>142490620 A lot of meat polcucks will be buying is halal, because halal meat doesn't actually need to labelled. Especially in the UK",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506089668 142471878,142491097,2017-09-22 14:14:58,">>142490881 Correction: Pseudo-nervous system. It transmits electrical impulses to perform a similar function.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089698 142471878,142491104,2017-09-22 14:15:01,">see flag >shitpostia opinion discarded",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506089701 142471878,142491186,2017-09-22 14:15:47,">>142490770 tough",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506089747 142471878,142491224,2017-09-22 14:16:12,">>142471878 A vegan diet is indefensible, it just sucks. Sorry to break your moral purity circle jerk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089772 142471878,142491233,2017-09-22 14:16:17,"The more meat I eat, the better I feel, and the stronger I become I've eaten 80 grams of rice protein in a day and some chicken, instead of a lot of meat, and by the end of it my whole back felt like I had been doing nothing but deadlifts all day when I had done none How can you argue against this? I don't even like meat that much, but I have to eat it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089777 142471878,142491254,2017-09-22 14:16:30,">>142482360 That's on top of their dick breath, too Gross",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506089790 142471878,142491602,2017-09-22 14:19:14,">>142491186 You mean edgy?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1506089954 142471878,142491750,2017-09-22 14:20:21,">>142487676 >doggo How about you just kys, faggot Plebbit is that way <-",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090021 142471878,142491825,2017-09-22 14:21:03,">>142479059 Dude you would have to eat like 5 pounds of any of those things to meet the requirement for protein in a day You have to get vegetable protein powder, yet it's harder to digest and be utilized by your body even if it's less inflammatory. and then there's the question of if you can even get all the amino acids you would need And the fact that your body uses hunger for specific foods to tell what you need to be in optimal health If you're easing protein powders it's all gonna taste like fucking shit and you won't ever really crave it unless you maybe add some unhealthy shit like sugar",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090063 142471878,142491965,2017-09-22 14:22:21,"Always funny to see vegans think of themselves so highly because they think they are treating their bodies right, then they light up a cigarette or do some coke. Lmfao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090141 142471878,142492073,2017-09-22 14:23:21,">>142490821 I hunt on an angus ranch. They are fucking braindead retarded, every one of them. If they're standing in the road and you drive towards them, they try to get away from you by running down the road. They get their heads stuck in shit to eat grass while standing at the edge of a hundred acre field of grass, and then not even care they're stuck. The bulls occassionally attack vehicles for no reason, even immobile vehicles with no one in them. They can wander through a gate , walk a hundred feet, and then be ""stuck"" on the other side of the fense because they forgot where the gate is. They are FUCKING STUPID.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090201 142471878,142492159,2017-09-22 14:24:03,">>142476546 We did, it gets ignored though because people think pizzagate is joke.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506090243 142471878,142492275,2017-09-22 14:25:04,">>142479807 This morning I had a burger with an entire avocado on it, and some arugula and tomato and mustard and ketchup The saturated fat raises your testosterone Like holy fuck I can't even believe how much it does Makes me want to lift weights and jack off all day Coconut oil as well",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090304 142471878,142492366,2017-09-22 14:25:55,">>142489084 >There is literally no way to take a sentient being, ""turn it into"" chopped up pieces of meat, and say that you did something magical and humane in the process. You should look at the triplenigger in the OP video as a metaphor for what happens. You're still killing someone who doesn't want to die. The difference between us and animals is we don't slowly eat our pray alive. What we do is humane.",,Anonymous,fe909eb7a775_sf_1[1].jpg,QGImUk8Ym1PeK+uUtp8RrQ==,,,1506090355 142471878,142492407,2017-09-22 14:26:15,">>142487374 You think your anti white guilt can work here? Good luck with that faggot. >>142471878 >Eat soy, goy! Veganism is just another weird religious cult. You're just as bad as the average Star Wars and Got fan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090375 142471878,142492505,2017-09-22 14:27:02,">>142492366 Chinese people do but we already knew they were animals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090422 142471878,142492684,2017-09-22 14:28:39,">>142491750 Thanks for your contribution here ya go (you)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090519 142471878,142492751,2017-09-22 14:29:14,">>142492407 If veganism succeeded much they'd immediately jump on the ""now eat insects goy it's environmentally friendly"" bandwagon Literal slaves eating slave food like rice in massive quantities hoping to get enough protein",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090554 142471878,142492891,2017-09-22 14:30:32,In fact I've eaten a burger almost every day this week and yet I literally feel better than I have in years because it's making me stronger,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506090632 142471878,142493137,2017-09-22 14:32:54,">>142490881 >What do you think about plants that have simple reflexes, like the Venus Fly Trap? It exhibits reactions to its environment by means of a simple nervous system. Is it different than a cockroach? In what way? At what point is a thing aware? It's a really long discussion, best left for when we've 100% abolished animal exploitation. Let's change beef burgers for bean burgers and then we can worry about cockroaches and venus flytraps. As I said before, if you care about animal cruelty, if something treads the line of sentient or non sentient, don't eat it. If you eat cows, there's no use worrying about cockroaches",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506090774 142471878,142493306,2017-09-22 14:34:30,">>142484270 I'd love to eat meat three times a day but that shit would get expensive.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1506090870 142471878,142493677,2017-09-22 14:37:44,"I ate two steaks for breakfast. Got to clear the freezer out for my next cow. Personally, guys, I am done with the t-bone. The tenderloin side is just way too likely to overcook before a nice char ends up on the strip side. Going to have the butcher separate them, so each can get a more appropriate treatment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506091064 142471878,142493851,2017-09-22 14:39:13,">>142472418 >""It felt good."" -The Pedophile",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506091153 142471878,142493878,2017-09-22 14:39:26,">>142492891 >single burger a day >not even every day a week are you actually American?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506091166 142471878,142493888,2017-09-22 14:39:30,">>142493677 Also considering having my ribeyes tomahawked. The bone is so aesthetic.",,Anonymous,IMG_5242.jpg,4YvUWGw+U8uV/ytDUwlA6Q==,US,,1506091170 142471878,142494195,2017-09-22 14:42:09,">>142475361 What would you consider a humane form of slaughter for yourself? The belief that these farms can actually raise these animals properly, which is almost impossible and actually kill each one humanely is beyond ridiculous. What is proper and humane about having your babies taken away? What is proper or humane about male chicks being put into a grinder because of their gender?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506091329 142471878,142494755,2017-09-22 14:46:58,">>142490881 >What do you think about plants that have simple reflexes, like the Venus Fly Trap? The amount of animal-chauvinism shown my vegans is nothing short of disgusting. Freshly-cut grass smell is a living organism crying out in pain, but because it doesn't cry in a way similar to a human they don't give a shit.",,Anonymous,576-Fresh-Cut-Grass.jpg,zwWWQb8iQVbi0VGXflP2nA==,US,,1506091618 142471878,142494887,2017-09-22 14:48:18,">>142476114 >Fit has a massive vegan presence >but I make 1/3 of the generals Go away tard",,Anonymous,1505757024946.png,0mQzUrHmlJf8PKfXQWYzCA==,US,,1506091698 142471878,142495003,2017-09-22 14:49:26,">>142491233 >rice protein induced back pain lel, meatcucks",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506091766 142471878,142495008,2017-09-22 14:49:28,">>142491825 Just 1 cup of pumpkin seeds is ~40 grams of complete protein. Which means if that's all you ate that day was 1 cup of pumpkin seeds you'd meet the daily requirement for protein. Now if you add a breakfast smoothie, soup and sandwich and a hearty dinner of your choice you're easily pushing 80 grams of protein which is twice the amount recommended in a day. Doctors used to believe that protein deficiency was the explanation for widespread problems around the world. The more time goes by the more and more the recommended amount a day goes down.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506091768 142471878,142495449,2017-09-22 14:53:16,">>142494755 lmao the mental gymnastics. you'll sit there pretending to care about grass while thousand pound mammals are literally having their children stripped away and all their milk farmed out. You are such an ignorant asshole.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506091996 142471878,142495612,2017-09-22 14:54:48,">>142495008 Who on their right mind would willingly eat a cup of pumpkin seeds even two days in a row?",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1506092088 142471878,142495619,2017-09-22 14:54:52,">>142492891 It's also feeding bad bacteria in your body, causing inflammation and no doubt increasing your risk of dying to heart attack or colon cancer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092092 142471878,142495648,2017-09-22 14:55:09,">>142495449 I'm not a vegan. I don't pretend to be all concerned about MUH COMPASSION. I accept my place in the universe, and that place is as a killer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092109 142471878,142495781,2017-09-22 14:56:29,This is why i never buy beef from holland,,Anonymous,dutch.png,v1ZRBCP/8ydL6mCHNvnYLw==,DK,,1506092189 142471878,142496045,2017-09-22 14:58:50,">>142482360 Have you ever eaten a pickle? Pickles are traditionally fermented food. Most cheap companies today use vinegar to imitate the fermentation process because they're too cheap to sell a real product. >uhmmmm , YUMMY You are uneducated and it really shows.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092330 142471878,142496289,2017-09-22 15:01:19,">>142494195 >What would you consider a humane form of slaughter for yourself? >What is proper and humane about having your babies taken away? why do veganfags always do this emotional appeal? animals aren't human, period. stop trying to equate complex human emotions to animals base instinctual response when they see something that signals food or safety. however thank you veganfags for raising potential tasty rations when cannibalism becomes necessary after communism takes over the west.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506092479 142471878,142496321,2017-09-22 15:01:40,">>142481941 You do realize that every piece of meat you put in your mouth is not natural? Livestock is routinely injected with antibiotics, b12 and whatever else they want in their product. Even some of the vitamins in milk are not natural and it's also pasteurized which is not natural. Yet I'm assuming you eat meat and drink milk. Interesting double standard you have.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092500 142471878,142496348,2017-09-22 15:01:54,">>142495648 > I accept my place in the universe, and that place is as a killer. lel most autistic thing I've read all day watch out for killa kosher boi",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506092514 142471878,142496406,2017-09-22 15:02:30,">>142471878 Veganism is satanic/Jewish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092550 142471878,142496446,2017-09-22 15:02:52,">>142496289 do meatcucks seriously believe animals are incapable of emotion",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506092572 142471878,142496506,2017-09-22 15:03:25,">>142481840 Vitamin C massively increases absorption of non-heme iron. Also phytic acid is good for your bones and reduces risk of cancers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092605 142471878,142496546,2017-09-22 15:03:53,">>142482360 As a dedicated meat-eater, I'm actually all for fermented vegetables. You don't see wolves and lions eating many vegetables, but they will sometimes eat the stomach contents of the vegans they kill. Digestion of plant matter is a nasty process which should be farmed out (as much as possible) to the lesser races.",,Anonymous,Korean-Beef-and-Kimchi-1.jpg,oDy4MznWLXdm8mgRWcaFsQ==,US,,1506092633 142471878,142496579,2017-09-22 15:04:12,">>142496446 do brainlet veganfags seriously think animals are like their disney cartoons",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506092652 142471878,142496691,2017-09-22 15:05:08,>you should change your entire lifestyle due to the fact that a farmer did something that made me uncomfortable,,Anonymous,1468030853408.jpg,HpjnzWh5Llw6P39o3W4XwA==,US,,1506092708 142471878,142496877,2017-09-22 15:06:53,">>142496446 The vast majority, yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092813 142471878,142496884,2017-09-22 15:06:57,">>142496546 >stomach contents of the vegans they kill Herbivores eat tons of insects while grazing. Only humans go full retarded vegan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506092817 142471878,142497087,2017-09-22 15:08:48,">>142496446 >calling someone a cuck >refusing to kill animals for survival",,Anonymous,,,,,1506092928 142471878,142497095,2017-09-22 15:08:52,">>142479852 Synthetic B12, cyanocobalamin, works also and has the benefit of being used for methylcobalamin or adenosylcobalamin by the body whereas supplementing one or the other cannot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506092932 142471878,142497099,2017-09-22 15:08:54,">>142496877 you're all retarded then",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506092934 142471878,142497213,2017-09-22 15:09:54,">>142496546 you need fiber you dumb cunt",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506092994 142471878,142497240,2017-09-22 15:10:08,">>142478240 Dude on the left is about as far from natural as possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093008 142471878,142497263,2017-09-22 15:10:18,Yo meat is good for you.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506093018 142471878,142497479,2017-09-22 15:12:16,">>142496884 Hmmm, good point. I remember hearing about all the fruit chimps eat being absolutely riddled with worm larvae (which the chimps gulped down with abandon).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093136 142471878,142497927,2017-09-22 15:16:02,">>142495612 Well I am using them as an example since they are protein dense and a typical snack food. I grew up eating all kinds of trail mix so I don't really see the problem in eating a cup a day if I wanted to. I really don't understand your comment. You do not need to eat pumpkin seeds to be vegan or healthy but they can help if you're concerned about protein, fats, calories, minerals etc. Who in their right mind would eat an omelette even two days in a row? Eggs are some of the worst things to put in your body. It is actually illegal to advertise them as healthy or nutritious they basically have to say something like ""can reduce hunger"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093362 142471878,142498126,2017-09-22 15:17:51,">>142496877 but what about muh doggo!! Pigs are more intelligent than the dogs you care about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093471 142471878,142498447,2017-09-22 15:20:56,">>142482360 I bet you eat yogurt too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093656 142471878,142498573,2017-09-22 15:22:08,Are there any newer videos than the ones secretly taped in the 60s?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093728 142471878,142498640,2017-09-22 15:22:42,">>142498126 But pigs aren't as sexy as dogs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093762 142471878,142498720,2017-09-22 15:23:19,beans are a good source of protein and phytonutrients,,Anonymous,Protein.png,PK1Qpmwo4S+6koMPb+e0sg==,AU,,1506093799 142471878,142498758,2017-09-22 15:23:39,">>142485237 >worst photo you could possible find on the left >most glamorous photo you could possibly find on the right Not biased at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093819 142471878,142498860,2017-09-22 15:24:38,Meat from an animal that is afraid will be more flavorful and lean. I prefer if they do this to all cattle actually.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093878 142471878,142498892,2017-09-22 15:24:53,">>142471878 It's either this, or I will start eating vegans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093893 142471878,142498932,2017-09-22 15:25:15,">>142485068 Actually the deforestation caused by the meat industry is the problem. Most soy grown is not for human consumption it's for livestock.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093915 142471878,142498994,2017-09-22 15:25:55,">>142484352 and carbs are bad why?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093955 142471878,142499055,2017-09-22 15:26:33,">>142498860 Opposite is true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506093993 142471878,142499251,2017-09-22 15:28:30,">>142498758 Then show us a good photo of the left.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506094110 142471878,142499344,2017-09-22 15:29:24,">>142471878 what a chad.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506094164 142471878,142499411,2017-09-22 15:30:03,">>142498720 and makes you fart like an MG42 with infinite ammo",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1506094203 142471878,142499711,2017-09-22 15:32:52,">>142495612 based spain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506094372 142471878,142499716,2017-09-22 15:32:54,">>142471878 >>>/ck/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506094374 142471878,142499817,2017-09-22 15:34:07,">>142486367 I haven't actually watched the video so I can't comment. I should have prefaced my remarks with that. Having worked a stint in agriculture I can say without question that some pretty horrific practices are fairly commonplace.I never worked on a battery farm or anything so I'm sure there's far worse than what I saw, but even on half-decent farms there's some abhorrent treatment of animals. The way veal calves are raised where they're kept on a very restrictive diet (30% of total caloric intake that a female calf would get) leads to about half of them dying within a few days. The ones who make it are weak as fuck and only live for a week or so after that. They basically get a shitty 10 days of suffering before they're a meal. But working with cattle I'd say I also got 'red-pilled' to a certain extent. The cows really don't give a flying fuck about you or your well-being, in fact sometimes if feels like they want you dead just because it finds you annoying. They have different personalities, in a single herd there are some that are a pleasure to be around (if you're an animal person) - friendly, joyful, will come and say hello, but there's some real cunts - they can be naturally angry and aggressive and will try to fuck you up if they get an opportunity. They have a heartless selfish streak you see in violent Muslims. I used to work day and night shifts back to back, up to 17 hour shifts sometimes. It's a lot of manual labour and when you're working 7 days a week it can wear you down to the point where you start losing your patience with the animals, which would eventually lead to animal cruelty. I'm not trying to justify animal cruelty (I'd rather not watch the video in OP) but this is just my 0.02 from having worked in that industry.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506094447 142471878,142499943,2017-09-22 15:35:20,"I was vegan for 3 weeks, i really felt better, more active, less depressed, and i cooked for myself instead of just putting that pizza in the oven or go to fast food shitholes. Then i stopped, was creating my own meat eater/dairy eater safespace/echochamber on the internet and started eating it again and feeling shit. I think i will now start again to be vegan, with a little exceptions that i'll continue to eat eggs from my own chickens. But meat and dairy is a nogo. Just think about it, the prices of meat and dairy are so goddamn fucking low, the farmers can't possibly treat their animals good. I mean a liter milk for 6 fucking cent's? A chicken for 3euros where the farmer earns 30 fucking cents per chicken he kills? It's disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506094520 142471878,142500468,2017-09-22 15:40:36,">>142498758 Nigella is just hot, mate.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506094836 142471878,142501358,2017-09-22 15:49:11,">>142499943 do it brah, a clear conscience is the best feeling",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506095351 142471878,142501466,2017-09-22 15:50:24,">>142499817 are you now vegan after seeing the mistreatment firsthand?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506095424 142471878,142502018,2017-09-22 15:55:49,">>142501466 Fuck no dude I love meat. I eat on average a pound of ground beef per day",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506095749 142471878,142502248,2017-09-22 15:58:12,">>142471878 >Cow acts like a little bitch >Gets treated like a little bitch I don't see what the problem is. Cunt should've turned her fucking head.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506095892 142471878,142502250,2017-09-22 15:58:14,">>142471878 >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 >- Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. Not the same stuff. It isn't. You're kidding yourself if you think so. Plus I kill millions of animals to farm vegan food for you faggot. The machine goes over the field and kills them all. How does that make you feel?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506095894 142471878,142502425,2017-09-22 15:59:58,">>142501466 >>142502018 I will say this - you can vote for the ethical raising of animals with your wallet, by supporting farmers who provide good animal welfare. Treating animals well, however, is more expensive, and that cost is passed on to you. Many people cannot afford the organic, free range eggs or the grass fed beef. One of my biggest motivators for increasing my income is so I can support ethical farming through my food purchases. Grass fed beef cows that have huge, lush pastures and aren't overcrowded etc live wonderful lives. They are much more free than any domestic pet. Unfortunately that type of farm is rare, but consumers can influence that.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506095998 142471878,142503008,2017-09-22 16:05:53,">>142502425 This seems to be pretty typical view of everyone who works in the meat industry or raises livestock themselves. Veganism is mostly restricted to people who have never been in the same room with a cow, pig, chicken, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506096353 142471878,142503268,2017-09-22 16:08:24,">>142477598 porn or instawhore, snekflag",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1506096504 142471878,142503412,2017-09-22 16:09:53,">>142502248 >why don't you just stay quiet while I kill you? American cuckservatives, ladies and gentleman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506096593 142471878,142503816,2017-09-22 16:13:37,">>142499251 of a vegan person?",,Anonymous,freely.jpg,aTJ6d9Z8VlkZa+qIyPuofw==,US,,1506096817 142471878,142503870,2017-09-22 16:14:07,">>142471878 >>some people are unnecessarily violent towards farm animals >>therefore, eating meat is wrong KYS pussy. I'm eating veal tomorrow, just because of this post. Also stocking up on steaks. Dead serious.",,Anonymous,1505787270672.jpg,O8kxFuYbPI7v/VrzTWf1hQ==,US,,1506096847 142471878,142503995,2017-09-22 16:15:23,">>142502018 absolutely pathetic",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506096923 142471878,142504108,2017-09-22 16:16:29,">>142503870 >Also stocking up on steaks. Buy whole cows, much cheaper that way. TFW grassfed ribeyes for less than $5/lb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506096989 142471878,142504123,2017-09-22 16:16:39,">>142502250 you feed animals food from those fields you dumb cunt. There'd be less fields and more free land if everyone was vegan",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506096999 142471878,142504340,2017-09-22 16:18:45,">>142471878 Wheat is murder. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=sponsor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097125 142471878,142504458,2017-09-22 16:19:53,">>142471988 >MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS. >>142477624 >>142481643 This >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html >http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097193 142471878,142504461,2017-09-22 16:19:55,">>142504108 I actually plan on raising black angus cows for slaughter one day. Right now I live in NJ and can't - but very soon I plan on moving and hopefully I can afford enough land to get my cattle business started.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097195 142471878,142504530,2017-09-22 16:20:36,">>142503870 Your diet will kill you. You are basically threatening people in this thread with suicide. Someone like you has been conditioned to believe that their diet is completely normal by those who profit off of your business and then suffering later in life. The idea that pork is a breakfast food was never a concept before bacon was recommended by a doctor who was paid for his endorsement. Now we know, 60 years later, that bacon is a really fatty and unhealthy food to eat for any meal let alone breakfast.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097236 142471878,142504567,2017-09-22 16:20:55,">>142504461 >>142504108 **yes, I know the cows don't get slaughtered. Steers. Cows get bred, herd increases in size. You know what I mean",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097255 142471878,142504622,2017-09-22 16:21:21,">>142498126 Yeah, actually, pigs are fucking smart as hell, unlike cows. But unlike say, dogs, pigs are fundamentally evil creatures",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097281 142471878,142504722,2017-09-22 16:22:32,">>142504530 Whatever you say. Enjoy your veggie burgers.",,Anonymous,kys.png,ydgQgt7jjf4JHHam0YYQOQ==,US,,1506097352 142471878,142504892,2017-09-22 16:24:07,">>142475361 I like the animal in the picture.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1506097447 142471878,142504910,2017-09-22 16:24:18,">>142471878 >tenderizing meat >somehow a bad thing wut?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1506097458 142471878,142504916,2017-09-22 16:24:23,">>142504530 The only bad thing about bacon is that it contains nitrate preservatives. Unpreserved meat is perfectly fine. Obesity is the killer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097463 142471878,142505404,2017-09-22 16:29:23,">>142471988 LOL that pic related is my friend. What the fuck... Funny since she is a fucking vegan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506097763 142471878,142505465,2017-09-22 16:29:58,">>142471988 >MEAT GIVING US CANCER >>142477725 >IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS. >EVOLUTUION >http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/ >https://www.livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html >https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html >People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an >extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was ""approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively."" This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate) >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097798 142471878,142505771,2017-09-22 16:32:55,">>142504722 #1 killer in america is heart disease and it's completely preventable through diet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYuxGs49k-o",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506097975 142471878,142505838,2017-09-22 16:33:35,">>142505771 Yes. Diet. As in eating LESS.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506098015 142471878,142506479,2017-09-22 16:39:28,">>142481643 This >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html >>142505465 >>142504916 >The only bad thing about bacon is that it contains nitrate preservatives Even the so called ""bad thing"" about processed meats has little to no evidence behind it >>142477725 And bacon can be quite healthy >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/12/bacon-superfood-or-hipster-bullshit.html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506098368 142471878,142506764,2017-09-22 16:42:09,">>142506479 Look, I eat meat every day, even bacon still. But nitrosamine carcinogenicity is very real",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506098529 142471878,142507175,2017-09-22 16:45:56,">>142505771 >Protein and heart disease >Contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease. >The research on dietary fats found that they are not associated with major cardiovascular disease, but higher fat consumption was associated with lower mortality; this was seen for all major types of fats (saturated fats, polyunsaturated fats and mono unsaturated fats), with saturated fats being associated with lower stroke risk. The researchers point out that, while this may appear surprising to some, these new results are consistent with several observational studies and randomized controlled trials conducted in Western countries during the last two decades. >The large new study, when viewed in the context of most previous studies, questions the conventional beliefs about dietary fats and clinical outcomes, says Mahshid Dehghan, the lead author for the study and an investigator at PHRI. >https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm >https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/ >https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/ >https://authoritynutrition.com/saturated-fat-good-or-bad/ >https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/ >http://www.uib.no/en/node/103172 >http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/5-studies-on-saturated-fat >http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285 >http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291 >http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html >https://breakingmuscle.com/fuel/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506098756 142722960,142722960,2017-09-24 10:01:40,"A place for discussing all things vegan health & ethics. - Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 - Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12 - Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) https://www.godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk https://static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes - USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ - Processed meattrash lowers sperm count https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 - Casomorphine in milk is addictive https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738 - Milk gives you prostate cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754 - Milk gives you acne https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483 - Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 - Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/ - Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589",VEGAN GENERAL - no meatcucks edition,Anonymous,MeatMakesYouManly.png,wmJXd88d4Oj0CYD2ZEpB7g==,AU,,1506247300 142722960,142723024,2017-09-24 10:02:19,>>142722960,,Sage,1453789604146.gif,iTw1CZkc1CrdCsqHMqNmbg==,DE,,1506247339 142722960,142723055,2017-09-24 10:02:44,Daily reminder you can't be hardline straight edge without being vegan.,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1506247364 142722960,142723116,2017-09-24 10:03:24,"FOOTAGE THE MEAT INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE Land of Hope and Glory (2017) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8 Seaspiracy (2015) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLgkrQSRy9E Lucent (2014) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U Earthlings (2005) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc2oizSsmUs Since we know meatcucks will defend this >inb4 naturalistic fallacy >inb4 might makes right fallacy >inb4 appeal to futility >inb4 amoral autists who think not caring and standing for nothing is a virtue >inb4 faggots larping as hunters >inb4 faggots larping as farmers >inb4 amerifats who think shooting something at 200m is testosteronous >inb4 telling someone to behave ethically is inherently unethical >inb4 free market is inherently moral >inb4 meatcucks triggered by science >inb4 muh canines >inb4 everything gives you cancer MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS.",,Anonymous,Dairy.webm,G/5sF7br6IafB5UvHw5xMA==,AU,,1506247404 142722960,142723899,2017-09-24 10:11:31,">>142722960 Shut up vegan fag. I'm going to go and kill and eat a squirrel now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506247891 142722960,142724069,2017-09-24 10:13:45,">>142723899 lel you must be tough",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506248025 142722960,142727223,2017-09-24 10:44:01,Jews love vegan goyim.,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506249841 142722960,142727538,2017-09-24 10:47:10,">>142727223 it's the opposite, the meat industry lobbies governments and misleads dumbcunts like you at the expense of animals and the environment",,Anonymous,1504860578459.jpg,DTaKdxhu9Srb/OVRbs8/SQ==,AU,,1506250030 142722960,142727730,2017-09-24 10:49:04,What's a good source of digestible protein?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506250144 142722960,142727835,2017-09-24 10:50:17,">>142722960 >>142722960 >>142722960 Get the fuck off /pol/ your faggots.",,Anonymous,1505875460209.jpg,+uokjUrDLwoPPfBFM7fQjg==,,,1506250217 142722960,142728181,2017-09-24 10:53:47,">>142727730 beans",,Anonymous,1505144849485.jpg,cKODf4dEz7LWVpeZmohySA==,AU,,1506250427 142722960,142728430,2017-09-24 10:56:20,">>142722960 Green Nationalists movement when?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506250580 142722960,142728437,2017-09-24 10:56:27,">>142723116 well well well, looks like the chinese aren't the worst after it all, it was wh*tes all along",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506250587 142722960,142728766,2017-09-24 10:59:49,">>142728430 hopefully soon when /pol/ drops their anti moral anti environmentalist retardation",,Anonymous,serveimage.png,YWIZKoDs2Hyrslq1YtomHQ==,AU,,1506250789 142722960,142729152,2017-09-24 11:03:35,">>142728766 so you think killing a plant isn't immoral?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506251015 142722960,142729780,2017-09-24 11:09:51,">>142722960 I'm not sure going vegan is the best idea, but the current meat industry is fucking terrible and needs to be changed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506251391 142722960,142730332,2017-09-24 11:12:25,">>142729152 yeah killing a plant is fine, they are not sentient",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506251545 142722960,142730472,2017-09-24 11:13:45,">>142730332 not so sure about that. you should look up the Backster effect",,Anonymous,,,,,1506251625 142722960,142732697,2017-09-24 11:34:29,">>142730472 Even if plants can feel pain, WHICH THEY FUCKING CAN'T, ""killing"" a calorie of plants is way less suffering than feeding (""killing"") 10x the plants to an animal, and killing the animal too just to eat one fucking calorie of beef. So, even if plants do feel pain, WHICH THEY FUCKING DON'T, being vegan is still the better choice Also >google backster effect >first result >Wikipedia - Backster Effect (paranormal) kek >>>/x/",,Anonymous,,,,,1506252869 142722960,142733884,2017-09-24 11:44:54,">BE AUSTRALIAN >SUCKED IN TOILET",,Anonymous,1500644446845.jpg,LXlEg39cYcq4HmeF5gDZNw==,BE,,1506253494 142722960,142733971,2017-09-24 11:45:46,">>142723055 You don't belong to this country",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1506253546 142722960,142733972,2017-09-24 11:45:46,">>142728181 You forgot the MAIN ""beanifit"": chronic flatulence.",,Anonymous,PepeWine.jpg,7ZbORzSM7TcoIRWC04eMDA==,US,,1506253546 142722960,142735179,2017-09-24 11:56:14,">>142722960 I don't give a flying fuck about human pain, so you can imagine that I don't give a fuck about nigger pain or animal pain. The world is collapsing and you want to push your agenda of eating grass for everybody. When I go hiking for 8 hours straight, I need meat, milk, eggs, that's all, and that's how nature is intended. You will eventually die the first when civilisation comes to an end.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1506254174 142722960,142736646,2017-09-24 12:07:08,">>142735179 literally the most retarded (non)argument I've heard thus far",,Anonymous,1505236547346.jpg,qUB6H3voDSVd6aQuci0Q4A==,AU,,1506254828 142722960,142736747,2017-09-24 12:07:43,">>142722960 >Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. >Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) >USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming >Animals store vitamin B12 in liver and muscle and some pass the vitamin into their eggs and milk; meat, liver, eggs and milk are therefore sources of the vitamin for other animals, including people.[5][7][25] For humans, the bioavailability from eggs is less than 9%, compared to 40% to 60% from fish, fowl and meat.[26] Insects are a source of B12 for animals (including other insects and humans).[25][27] >Animal sources with a significant content of vitamin B12 (range among top 20 sources of 50 to 99 µg per 100 grams)[28] include clams, organ meats (especially liver) from lamb, veal, beef, and turkey, fish eggs, mackerel, and crab meat.[4][5] >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Animal_sources >http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants#section1 >https://dailyhealthpost.com/4-brain-nutrients-found-only-in-meat-fish-and-eggs-not-plants/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506254863 142722960,142736832,2017-09-24 12:08:17,">>142722960 >Processed meattrash lowers sperm count >Crucially, however, none of these variations in diet affected the chance of the couples becoming pregnant after treatment, or having a baby. This means the study cannot prove that processed meat causes lower male fertility >Importantly, the effect of overall meat intake was not related to fertility success, which is the chance of becoming pregnant after the treatment cycles, or having a live birth. >https://www.nhs.uk/news/food-and-diet/does-red-meat-affect-male-fertility/ >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465 >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506254897 142722960,142736959,2017-09-24 12:09:12,">>142722960 >Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man >Casomorphine in milk is addictive >Milk gives you prostate cancer >Milk gives you acne >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html Also doubt the""milk=prostate cancer"" entirely especially when in the article it says: >Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem. >The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct. >difficult to tell >unrealistic and >What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study. >http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/ >http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html >http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2011.10719992",,Anonymous,Milk doesn't lower testosterone.png,tnBd1JuxxKD02/He/WjjVg==,US,,1506254952 142722960,142737110,2017-09-24 12:10:12,">>142722960 can you give me a couple examples of vegetable sources of saturated fats aside from coconut milk?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506255012 142722960,142737150,2017-09-24 12:10:29,">>142736747 >dailyhealthpost.com >disproves actual scientific data are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506255029 142722960,142737196,2017-09-24 12:10:49,">>142722960 >Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer >Meat gives you colorectal cancer >Processed meattrash lowers sperm count >>142723116 >MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS. >http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/ >https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/ >http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health >https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf >https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/ >https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/ >https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/ >http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/ >https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/ >https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/ >https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us >http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/ >https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/ >http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/ >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365 >https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506255049 142722960,142737234,2017-09-24 12:11:02,">>142736959 milk causes diabetes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506255062 142722960,142737247,2017-09-24 12:11:11,">>142737110 basically any oil that you would cook with",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506255071 142722960,142737331,2017-09-24 12:11:42,">>142736747 Yeah, animal products contain B12, so what? That doesn't mean that plants don't contain it >>142736832 Nitrates are unhealthy I don't know what you're trying to prove Nitrates are unhealthy >Nitrates are unhealthy Nitrates are unhealthy >Nitrates are unhealthy Nitrates are unhealthy >Nitrates are unhealthy Nitrates are unhealthy >Nitrates are unhealthy Nitrates are unhealthy",,Anonymous,,,,,1506255102 142722960,142737380,2017-09-24 12:12:06,">>142722960 If vegan is so healthy and the way to go, how come babys and toddlers fed by their social justice fucking parents die of malnutrition? Check. Mate. Fuckers. Meat and animal products are part of a healthy. normal diet.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506255126 142722960,142737412,2017-09-24 12:12:18,">>142722960 >Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/search?q=eggs >https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-health-benefits-of-eggs >https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-reasons-why-eggs-are-the-healthiest-food-on-the-planet#section1 >http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/189529 >http://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8539 >>142737150 No, but you clearly are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506255138 142722960,142737484,2017-09-24 12:12:55,"You know what pisses me off the most about vegans? They almost bring up the fact that they're vegan. Keep your shit to yourself, you virtue signaling attention whores.",,Anonymous,How-about-a-nice-big-cup-of-shut-the-fuck-up.jpg,g5aD3VAs+t4NwdfyizVc3Q==,UA,,1506255175 142722960,142737621,2017-09-24 12:13:57,">>142723116 >IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION . >Implying you know anything about evolution >http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/ >https://www.livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html >https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html >People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an >extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was ""approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively."" This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate) >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html >>142722960 >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html?zx=ba2951438632d5eb",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506255237 142722960,142737771,2017-09-24 12:14:56,">>142722960 virgin vegan vs. the Chad Consumption",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506255296 142722960,142738168,2017-09-24 12:17:58,">>142737621 lel you actually think this disproves studies directly showing meat causes cancer",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506255478 142722960,142738212,2017-09-24 12:18:20,">>142727730 Vegan cows.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506255500 142722960,142738378,2017-09-24 12:19:36,">>142737484 Pic related is literally you >>142737380 >If vegan is so healthy and the way to go, how come babys and toddlers fed by their social justice fucking parents die of malnutrition? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 ""It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned ... VEGAN diets, are HEALTHFUL, NUTRITIONALLY ADEQUATE, and may PROVIDE HEALTH BENEFITS ... appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, INCLUDING PREGNANCY, LACTATION, INFANCY, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes"" All you have is 3-4 tabloid articles about idiot vegan parents who starved their children. Omni toddlers die all the time but you can't just write such an article, it wouldn't sell well Also Name ONE (1) single nutrient a vegan diet is INHERENTLY deficient in >Check. Mate. Fuckers. Haha omg rekt how come I never thought of that",,Anonymous,CWNo6ZvWoAA1ybz[1].jpg,MTxIlqFFExZsYrK5qQQ0cw==,,,1506255576 142722960,142738574,2017-09-24 12:21:06,">>142737110 palm oil",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506255666 142722960,142738844,2017-09-24 12:23:03,">>142727730 meat",,Anonymous,,,,,1506255783 142722960,142738999,2017-09-24 12:24:08,,,Anonymous,Plants-eat-meat.jpg,lXLNx8FtCQ+A5Bn9FuCzKw==,US,,1506255848 142722960,142739031,2017-09-24 12:24:26,">>142738378 >Name ONE (1) single nutrient a vegan diet is INHERENTLY deficient in D3",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506255866 142722960,142739164,2017-09-24 12:25:22,">>142738378 >Name ONE (1) single nutrient a vegan diet is INHERENTLY deficient in >>142736747",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506255922 142722960,142739672,2017-09-24 12:29:04,">>142738168 >directly No, these >>142737196 do",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506256144 142722960,142740021,2017-09-24 12:31:41,">>142739031 I live in a snownigger country where every family consumes a wheel of gouda and half a pig daily, and doctors still recommend a pill because of the overcast weather >>142739164 You are retarded. Reasons: 1) the post you quoted says that there is B12 in animal products. Not that there isn't B12 in plants. 2) INHERENTLY [in-heer-uh nt, -her-] adjective 1. existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute;",,Anonymous,,,,,1506256301 142722960,142740265,2017-09-24 12:33:20,>>142722960,,Anonymous,1505342389893.jpg,FUFoMrbmz5BwNGbNJX+vPw==,US,,1506256400 142722960,142740294,2017-09-24 12:33:35,">>142723116 Muh soybean Enjoy becoming a trap",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506256415 142722960,142740437,2017-09-24 12:34:38,The Bible says eat meat. Why should I listen to you?,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506256478 142722960,142740566,2017-09-24 12:35:26,">>142722960 Every time you post this I'm going to go and set fire to a sheep.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506256526 142722960,142740640,2017-09-24 12:35:59,">>142740021 is there a D3 supplement that is vegan???",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506256559 142722960,142741259,2017-09-24 12:39:56,">>142740640 Sunlight",,Anonymous,,,,,1506256796 142722960,142741421,2017-09-24 12:40:54,">>142735179 Wow, that was fucking terrible. Get off this board",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506256854 142722960,142741422,2017-09-24 12:40:55,"What are the best cheap vegan snacks? All I can think of are nuts and flapjacks, and I want a bit more variety.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506256855 142722960,142741535,2017-09-24 12:41:39,"Also, is there any vegan milk that even comes close to the delights of full fat cow's milk? So far I've tried soya, rice and oat milk, and none of them have been that nice.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506256899 142722960,142741543,2017-09-24 12:41:42,">>142741259 So then you can only go vegan if you live close to the equator and keep your shirt off most of the day...ok",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506256902 142722960,142741586,2017-09-24 12:41:56,">>142741422 grass",,Anonymous,,,,,1506256916 142722960,142741609,2017-09-24 12:42:03,">>142740265 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=kuntal+joisher >>142740640 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vegan+d3+supplement >>142740437 If Jesus and the devil are in a room with a table, with a plate of beans on the one side and a lamb, a knife, a GF grill and a plate on the other side, who do you think would eat what?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506256923 142722960,142741673,2017-09-24 12:42:35,">>142741535 jesus christ, no there isn;t you fucking retard. kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506256955 142722960,142741744,2017-09-24 12:43:02,">>142741543 You only need an hour of sun",,Anonymous,,,,,1506256982 142722960,142741752,2017-09-24 12:43:06,">>142735179 this. wild animals have it worse off than our catt;e",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1506256986 142722960,142741850,2017-09-24 12:43:51,">>142741535 Interestingly enough, after a few months off dairy, soy milk started to have that fat, creamy taste. No idea why",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506257031 142722960,142741892,2017-09-24 12:44:11,">>142741422 fruit. dried fruit. oreos, bread, muffins (most of them) doughnuts (most of them), pop tarts loads of food is incidentally vegan",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506257051 142722960,142742313,2017-09-24 12:47:17,">>142740640 D3 is hard to get through diet even as a meat eater. the stuff in milk is added for this exact reason. now most soy milks / whatever have added vitamin D too, so yeah.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506257237 142722960,142742471,2017-09-24 12:48:24,"How do I become vegetarian while living at home while my parents buy all the food? I am a broke neet so buying my own isn't really possible. Not interested in going vegan honestly. I like cheese too much.",,Anonymous,frodo.jpg,Ev1J+Y1tYrwwjln+AyabKA==,US,,1506257304 142722960,142742525,2017-09-24 12:48:43,">>142741744 you need 20 minutes of sun if you are at the equator and are sunbathing between the hours of 10am and 2 pm and are light skinned. The further north you go, the more time you need. the more clothes you have on, the more time you need. Not laying down, times it by 4. Are dark skinned or have a tan, you need more time. not during peak sunlight hours, takes more time. cloudy day, takes more time. If you are tanned and living in canada or north europe and wearing cloths, it takes about 36 hours a day to get your vitimin d. and that just doesn't happen.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506257323 142722960,142742645,2017-09-24 12:49:33,">>142742313 but it's D2 and that's not the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506257373 142722960,142743151,2017-09-24 12:52:53,">>142742645 google says you're wrong but whatever",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506257573 142722960,142743953,2017-09-24 12:58:24,">>142740437 the Bible says man was designed to eat only plants",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506257904 142722960,142744087,2017-09-24 12:59:24,">>142727730 spunk.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506257964 142722960,142744341,2017-09-24 13:01:22,">>142743953 Could you please point out the exact verse? I' m waiting.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506258082 142722960,142744624,2017-09-24 13:03:33,">>142744341 >>142741609",,Anonymous,,,,,1506258213 142722960,142744884,2017-09-24 13:05:29,">>142722960 I think humans and animals are equal because I'm a massive faggot. I think the best place on the internet to virtue signal is the one place where everyone will call you a nigger at the drop of a hat",,Anonymous,IMG_6290.jpg,1EmAV4bkr/yqaBzQjbUP4w==,GB,,1506258329 142722960,142745019,2017-09-24 13:06:35,">>142743151 Google this http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/84/4/694.full",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506258395 142722960,142745531,2017-09-24 13:10:27,">>142737331 >I don't know what you're trying to prove That you don't read >>142737196",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506258627 142722960,142745755,2017-09-24 13:11:55,,,Anonymous,Obama-Eating.jpg,4nOBI0RgONxDZ/xrTk2wSA==,,,1506258715 142722960,142745773,2017-09-24 13:12:04,Why would anyone be vegan if you can just piss off vegans by not being vegan? Worth getting cancer desu,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506258724 142722960,142746841,2017-09-24 13:20:32,">>142745531 Nitrates are unhealthy and anyone who claims otherwise is a shitposter and her opinion should be disregarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1506259232 142722960,142746856,2017-09-24 13:20:40,">>142722960 Disgusting lefty rats , you are the bastard child of a kike and nigger.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1506259240 142722960,142746965,2017-09-24 13:21:34,">>142744884 >trying to dismiss veganism as virtue signalling >actually is just uncomfortable with vegans being more virtuous than him lel, meatcucks",,Anonymous,Pig.jpg,NKfO2SXOkAcQjeQJ+04rbQ==,AU,,1506259294 142722960,142746976,2017-09-24 13:21:37,">>142722960 This isn't politics you stupid inbred fuck. fuck off to /fit/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506259297 142722960,142747563,2017-09-24 13:25:41,">>142744341 Adam and Eve brah, they didn't eat animals",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506259541 142722960,142748434,2017-09-24 13:32:07,">>142746841 >Facts that aren't anti-meat pseudoscience hurt my feelings, so whoever posts them is a sitposter and shouldn't be listened to",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506259927 142722960,142748605,2017-09-24 13:33:18,">>142746976 OP already shitposted there. They've been doing it for quite a while",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506259998 142722960,142748796,2017-09-24 13:34:39,">>142746841 >Vilify all meat because some processed meats contain nitrates.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506260079 142722960,142749171,2017-09-24 13:37:28,">>142723116 >Naturalist fallacy Only intellectual midgets claim examining nature to understand your world, and applying the results to your worldview is a fallacy. Also, KYS vegan cuck. 99% of you are commie scum bc you hate existence itself.",,Anonymous,IMG_0467.jpg,/ffoJuGvZ2TIy2Hg3bwJcQ==,US,,1506260248 142722960,142749709,2017-09-24 13:41:37,">>142722960 bump not here to debate, I am right, you are wrong meat eaters BTFO",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506260497 142722960,142749863,2017-09-24 13:42:52,">>142728181 this legumes over all",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506260572 142722960,142749958,2017-09-24 13:43:36,">>142727730 Same as OP's intake. Jizz.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506260616 142722960,142750797,2017-09-24 13:50:16,">>142748434 (You) please keep replying to my posts >>142748796 >Vilify all meat I didn't do that, I only directly responded to >>142736832.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506261016 142722960,142753107,2017-09-24 14:07:11,">>142722960 is it true dairy cows are being kept impregnated to maximize their milk output?",,Anonymous,1494564623437.jpg,kn5rBJSKUN5Faq8TkMEBPQ==,HU,,1506262031 142722960,142753257,2017-09-24 14:08:29,">>142722960 Fucks sake do you post this shit on every board? Just eat a balanced diet you dumb bogan",,Anonymous,,,,,1506262109 142722960,142753556,2017-09-24 14:10:47,">>142753107 Yes, and the calves are used for veal.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506262247 142722960,142753953,2017-09-24 14:13:52,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK3R5Fl---Y,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506262432 142722960,142753968,2017-09-24 14:13:58,Why isn't everyone a vegan?,,Anonymous,frankenegg.webm,RWAIQnzUy8ob+DxWknj69Q==,,,1506262438 142722960,142753983,2017-09-24 14:14:03,"Vegan since April 2017. Last non vegan meal was fish and chips. Do I miss non-vegan food? Yes, sometimes. Do I have a clear conscience now that I no longer harm animals? Yes, most of the time.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506262443 142722960,142754506,2017-09-24 14:18:19,">>142753968 >>142753983 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f14WXbt8bBY",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506262699 142722960,142755157,2017-09-24 14:23:15,Are these threads ironic shitposting or am I not understanding something?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506262995 142722960,142755985,2017-09-24 14:29:57,Ohhh just look at that flag.,,Anonymous,,,KR,,1506263397 142722960,142756509,2017-09-24 14:33:42,">>142753968 Because your food tastes like shit compared to meat",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1506263622 142722960,142756597,2017-09-24 14:34:15,">>142753257 A vegan diet can be perfectly balanced with all the protein, essential amino acids, omegas, vitamins and minerals you need. You don't need corpses in your plate anon, that's borderline cannibalism and as such almost nigger tier behaviour",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506263655 142722960,142756792,2017-09-24 14:35:41,">>142722960 if you're anti-vegan you're not redpilled - only a rush limbaugh bill mitchell type boomer cuckservative respect white values and go vegan",,Anonymous,,,,,1506263741 142722960,142756963,2017-09-24 14:37:08,veggies are gay,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506263828 142722960,142757245,2017-09-24 14:39:11,">>142753983 nothing beats a clear conscience",,Anonymous,Sheep1.webm,wh1Js38j5P4awaiqvs9ehg==,AU,,1506263951 142722960,142757266,2017-09-24 14:39:22,"Take a good hard look in the mirror and ask yourself: are these forward-facing eyes the eyes of a plant-eating prey animal? Take a long walk in the dark woods, worry not traveler, though you've been blinded by the lights of modernity your eyes will soon adjust to the darkness. Ask yourself, are these the eyes of anything but a predator? While you're walking through the wood forage for yourself on the ground food. Plant matter, roots, leaves, if you're lucky some berries. Swallow them all down now, there's a good traveler. You're still hungry, yes? You have not the rumen of grazing animals, this pittance will never sustain you. Venture off the trail. The timid deer picks through the wood. A chill pricks at your bare skin, your ape's fur long-since discarded by the march of evolution. But surely the hide of the deer is warm. See the deer, silhouetted in moonlight, his antlers a formidable weapon, for another deer or a lesser predator perhaps, but for you they are already a tool. You pounce, the beast could outrun you a at a distance, but among the trees and over such a short distance it's hopeless. Grab the bone of the antler tightly. Your evolved brain knows well the principle of leverage, it has for eon before it was considered a physical law A sharp wrench and the beast falls, its broken neck bleating out a final call, not to arms, not to curse your name, but simple bellow to retreat, the beast knows what you are. You find a sharp rock by instinct and slice the beast's belly open. If you had been deficient in some vitamin you may have felt the uncanny urge to eat some of these entrails, but for now you throw them aside, a bounty of energy for the forest. You make a fire, the only beast of the earth who knows its secrets. As the fat of the deer crackles into the fire you sit naked to the waist, blood drying on your arms and chest. At last you understand.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506263962 142722960,142757593,2017-09-24 14:41:57,">>142757266 this thread isn't for larping autist",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506264117 142722960,142757773,2017-09-24 14:43:18,">>142722960 Imagine a world where people have to stop eating meat and animal products. On top of that, imagine a world that downright stop using animals to create things >every single cure that requires animal are no longer avalaible >people cannot use animal in order to learn new things in science >A majority of the clothe industry goes down because they can't even use sheeps an the like anymore >because humanitarians will bitch that you also can't use humans, they won't be able to do science at all and create new things >People around the world start dying because they cannot use animals to feed themselves, large shortage of food Now let's advance further more and let's say Plants are living being too >Plants are illegal to eat >they fruits, just like chicken eggs, are illegal to eat >everyone on earth dies Reminder that even if you don't eat meat, there is still over 6 billions people on earth that eat meat, and NEED meat to survive. This is why you don't hear a problem when it comes to food in first world countries thanks to all the meat being produced If you go take a trip to Alaska, you'll see that most people cannot afford to have a job, and therefore need to hunt to survive. Humans always lived with animals to eat on and survive, and while they are omnivore, you can't force every single one of them to stop eating meat.",,Anonymous,1362776161431.png,MWT7RpiVQqnGqjo/toubVw==,CA,,1506264198 142722960,142758842,2017-09-24 14:51:21,">>142741752 >being this autistic",,Anonymous,6A79A267-68F1-4413-B6CE-3D23A275985A-739-0000017B2DA555B6.gif,K90C+MvFAxU4EpiDkq3Hww==,US,,1506264681 142722960,142759471,2017-09-24 14:55:55,">>142757245 delicious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAE4dwbnDMw",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506264955 142722960,142759976,2017-09-24 15:00:00,">>142757593 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYy3jWR2OZY",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506265200 142722960,142760121,2017-09-24 15:00:59,>>142759471,,Anonymous,vegan ribs.jpg,+hUnI+n19+PQ3SbEkNrPAw==,IE,,1506265259 142722960,142763354,2017-09-24 15:25:11,">>142760121 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_-0POeyLds",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506266711 142888598,142888598,2017-09-25 16:10:40,"Starting the vegan General with a Boca burger, lads. How's meat-free Monday?",/veg/ VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,IMG_8423.jpg,5YETc4ymoacv8pdqbpix/Q==,US,,1506355840 142888598,142888772,2017-09-25 16:12:24,">>142888598 I just made some vinegar veggies for my lunch",,Anonymous,1506365527746.png,bQTo9+sOt3d9cM3SZ2lLCg==,FR,,1506355944 142888598,142889041,2017-09-25 16:15:10,">>142888772 That was such a fucking nice story kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506356110 142888598,142890346,2017-09-25 16:28:36,this is such a sad thread.,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506356916 142888598,142890892,2017-09-25 16:34:09,">>142888598 why do you hate plants?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506357249 142888598,142891415,2017-09-25 16:39:32,">>142890892 But anon, I love plants: that's why I eat them!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506357572 142888598,142891480,2017-09-25 16:40:10,">>142890346 Not sadder than that flag, m8",,Anonymous,B3D82414-26F3-4171-8900-0DFAB6A39335-17972-00001C7BAC5DC4A1.png,KaJH0/MCz5IkxuO+DbWR9g==,US,,1506357610 142888598,142891619,2017-09-25 16:41:29,">>142888598 what about some picanha to give a joy for the thread",,Anonymous,carne-mal-passada2.jpg,bxEZfteRVlcncseIR/ut7g==,BR,,1506357689 142888598,142891646,2017-09-25 16:41:45,">>142888598 I eat primarily veg 3-4 days a week, supplemented with high quality beef and fish. Those Boca burgers are gross and a ripoff. You can make way better veggie burgers yourself, and freeze them for later use. Much better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506357705 142888598,142891925,2017-09-25 16:44:46,"Sage on my friends, sage on.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506357886 142888598,142892211,2017-09-25 16:47:33,>>142891480,,Anonymous,1505676667515.jpg,l0WJlsql/EEx+lyoAYwbcw==,SE,,1506358053 142888598,142892414,2017-09-25 16:49:23,">>142888598 You're eating a meal of heavily processed foods (bread, veggie patty and cheese). It might be tasty to the vegan palette, but I'm not sure it's that healthy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506358163 142888598,142892718,2017-09-25 16:52:30,">>142892414 This was my cheat day, I eat mostly Whole Foods plant based during the week >>142891646 too lazy to make my own",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506358350 142888598,142892754,2017-09-25 16:52:54,">>142888598 I shit 3 times a day and eat no veggies go fuck yourself vegans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506358374 142888598,142892810,2017-09-25 16:53:25,">>142891619 >t. Uma delicia",,Anonymous,B2CC8E73-10B6-4308-8AB4-19CF2B858190-18624-00001D161D24A470.png,Mdww3eGnd8nkYUfi08yW7Q==,US,,1506358405 142888598,142893032,2017-09-25 16:55:32,">>142891925 >>142892754 This is important, this is about the environment. Fuck global warming, animal products are what's destroying us",,Anonymous,7ABD9AFF-0F17-472C-9453-F930266377A6-18624-00001D16D905830F.jpg,tenMdhCsOdbjyDhm2UbodA==,US,,1506358532 142888598,142893096,2017-09-25 16:56:10,">>142892810 Is this true? Wouldn't logging and selling forest products be the #1 cause of deforestation? Once those forested areas are cleared, then they are going to be used for other purposes, such as home development, farming, cattle grazing, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506358570 142888598,142893156,2017-09-25 16:56:46,">>142893096 Logging can be sustained and even replaced with hemp production so it's not a big deal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506358606 142888598,142893236,2017-09-25 16:57:37,">>142892718 What vegan cheese do you get? inb4 dick cheese",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506358657 142888598,142893398,2017-09-25 16:59:06,,,Anonymous,a.jpg,l8kwSq/iLWkqXrRPWEVozQ==,HR,,1506358746 142888598,142893636,2017-09-25 17:01:38,">>142893032 The funny thing is that modern city-humans think that not eating animal products is a way to find back to nature when in fact it is the most unnatural way of living and to not get sick you have to take artificial supplements. I get that in the US most food you can buy is cheap and fake. However if you really care you should raise your own chicken or something.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506358898 142888598,142893781,2017-09-25 17:03:01,">>142893096 No they burn down the forests to use as farm land. Most wood used for logging is farmed, specialized trees with few short branches, uniformly lined up, on flat ground, and evenly spaced, makes it much easier for harvesting. vid related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE2GXryJxlQ",,Anonymous,farmed wood.jpg,Zp6TKnHVF/5ujstp9wLiyw==,IE,,1506358981 142888598,142893917,2017-09-25 17:04:18,">>142893398 nice 9shit meme son",,Anonymous,1484089656138.jpg,+p+0pKAlLX91uiyG2ZFJnQ==,DE,,1506359058 142888598,142894226,2017-09-25 17:07:36,">>142891619 Best looking grass I have seen all day.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506359256 142888598,142894498,2017-09-25 17:10:13,">>142891619 try this :)",,Anonymous,fårikål.jpg,OFdnsjbsdEwoywxUiK947Q==,NO,,1506359413 142888598,142894657,2017-09-25 17:11:36,">>142888598 Fuck off fucking faggot. This is a political board. MODDDSSSSS WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU FUCKS? Go back to >>>/fit/ Pussy",,Anonymous,D8BFA5B0-6C1C-4504-BD56-64A8F67A21F0-202-0000001B5E803249.jpg,PGBXzgaspPlxD1s7fKM+ZA==,US,,1506359496 142888598,142894711,2017-09-25 17:12:06,">>142892810 Yes, that is true however if proper agricultural practices were again introduced rather then the bull shit that goes on right now people would have the meat they want and we would be improving the environment. Your ""organic"" veggie farms still fuck up the environment as well as the massive herds. Learn about Permaculture.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506359526 142888598,142894752,2017-09-25 17:12:31,">>142888598 /political/ board >""I'm a vegan faggot!",,Anonymous,SzechJuan.jpg,9utYwWoEaMlGSNwAqo3Xqg==,US,,1506359551 142888598,142894832,2017-09-25 17:13:15,Satan ribs in the smoker right now. One more hour....,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506359595 142888598,142895051,2017-09-25 17:15:22,">>142893032 No they are not. To have a truly restorative agricultural system you need to have integrated systems of animals and plants. Permaculture is the future.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506359722 142888598,142895097,2017-09-25 17:15:47,">>142894752 veganism is political u tool",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506359747 142888598,142895374,2017-09-25 17:18:12,">>142893096 >>142893156 You can also use the practice of coppicing and pollarding trees to get continued wood harvests for whatever purposes would be needed, its also good for some kinds of trees and make the tree live longer. Hemp should however make paper rather then trees I will say.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506359892 142888598,142895553,2017-09-25 17:19:50,,,Anonymous,cattleproduct[1].jpg,IzOU1La3sXCiC/Fe0V/6+Q==,US,,1506359990 142888598,142895615,2017-09-25 17:20:25,">>142888598 stop killing the plants faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1506360025 142888598,142895713,2017-09-25 17:21:19,">>142893636 Its really hard to keep a straight face when these people say how much healthier it is to take your vitamins via pill vs a well balanced diet of meat and plants.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506360079 142888598,142895874,2017-09-25 17:23:00,">>142894752 God dam that looks good. >>142895097 Only because leftists make everything political as they try and enforce their world view.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506360180 142888598,142896289,2017-09-25 17:27:12,">>142888598 Plants feel pain just like animals. You just can't hear their screams. You vegans make me sick.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506360432 142888598,142896443,2017-09-25 17:28:53,">>142893096 It's the irony of banning the import of tropical hardwood. Now the rainforest has no value at all to poor Asians/South Americans and they chop it all down for agriculture and cattle",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1506360533 142888598,142896524,2017-09-25 17:29:50,">>142893636 >Implying you couldn't yield more food planting vegetables, grains, beans than raising livestock and having to buy/grow their food for less food in return",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506360590 142963160,142963160,2017-09-26 07:12:15,"A place for discussing all things vegan health & ethics. - Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 - Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12 - Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) https://www.godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk https://static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes - USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ - Processed meattrash lowers sperm count https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 - Casomorphine in milk is addictive https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738 - Milk gives you prostate cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754 - Milk gives you acne https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483 - Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 - Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/ - Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589",VEGAN GENERAL - no conformist meatcucks edition,Anonymous,ThumpingIndustryPractice1.webm,leXgGsu1D3Vp3qq1BA3oVw==,AU,,1506409935 142963160,142963200,2017-09-26 07:12:51,piggy :3,,Anonymous,,,,,1506409971 142963160,142963242,2017-09-26 07:13:43,"FOOTAGE THE MEAT INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE Land of Hope and Glory (2017) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8 Seaspiracy (2015) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLgkrQSRy9E Lucent (2014) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U Earthlings (2005) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc2oizSsmUs Since we know meatcucks will defend this >inb4 meatcucks triggered by altruism >inb4 meatcucks triggered by science >inb4 naturalistic fallacy >inb4 might makes right fallacy >inb4 appeal to futility >inb4 amoral autists who think not caring and standing for nothing is a virtue >inb4 faggots larping as hunters >inb4 faggots larping as farmers >inb4 amerifats who think shooting something at 200m is testosteronous >inb4 telling someone to behave ethically is inherently unethical >inb4 free market is inherently moral >inb4 muh canines >inb4 everything gives you cancer MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS.",,Anonymous,IndustryPracticeThumping2.webm,NuOyXSYn5CkMTg4TGM9yHA==,AU,,1506410023 142963160,142963292,2017-09-26 07:14:42,Meatcucks are morally deficient,,Anonymous,PigExecution.webm,W7USx98KSd3irDKyyfhsxw==,AU,,1506410082 142963160,142963297,2017-09-26 07:14:45,"and the spam continues. industrial animal farming factories is the result of greed. attack them, instead the final ignorant consumer. not all animals are tortured from birth to sacrifice. bio farmers have cattle living outside on huge landscapes sunbasking and eating grass and living a natural life they were meant to. it is ignorant to believe that just because some meat is contaminated and bad for you, that all meat is bad and supporting horrible conditions and cruelty. meat was and still is a luxury, that is expensive. if you are poor stay more vegetarian/vegan, if you have money go for bio meat/products that have benefits and boost your health. The reason vegan films abound, ecelebs are suddenly all turning vegan and these threads exist is because supplement companies are marketing the vegan lifestyle out of the wazoo. Vegan products are more profitable, have a long shelf-life and vegan consumers are more faithful. The vegan lifestyle is being driven hard to bring in shekels - the best part is you're probably not even getting paid for your contribution! vegan agenda pushing their shit appealing to emotion are just like antifa members shouting and confusing ignorant people into doubt and fear.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506410085 142963160,142963421,2017-09-26 07:16:56,">>142963297 The meat industry has been lobbying the government and the spreading misinformation for years. Meatcucks are the shills",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506410216 142963160,142963423,2017-09-26 07:16:59,">become dominant species by killing buffalo and crap >cuck yourself to soyboy status you fail. you all fail.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506410219 142963160,142963447,2017-09-26 07:17:21,"I hate watching those videos, but it wasn't that which made me go vegan , although it did contribute greatly. Thought I would try it for a couple of weeks about a year ago, and I am far more alert through the day, my dick is constantly hard, andI just feel much healthier. It's worth it for all that alone.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506410241 142963160,142963601,2017-09-26 07:19:55,">>142963421 attack the corporations who fuel animal cruelty in industrial factory farms. stop being an ignorant. there are still many smal local farmers who have naturalistic enviorements for those animals. add the hunters that catch free living animals that doesnt suffer at all. stop missleading people into all meat is bad you emotionally charged cuck",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506410395 142963160,142963692,2017-09-26 07:21:26,">>142963421 Shitty argument m8, spainanon is correct, you faggots need to attack the industry rather than trying to guilt the individual. Fukn vego cunts are the worst",,Anonymous,1427311840574.jpg,BzMnE/dI/krds7/JH8d1Jg==,AU,,1506410486 142963160,142963751,2017-09-26 07:22:38,">>142963601 this. thank you spain. actually some soyboy food is pretty good. soy hotdogs are almost better than real hotdogs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506410558 142963160,142963825,2017-09-26 07:23:44,">>142963601 You're right that not all meat is bad, but thinking that animals don't suffer when shot in the heart or lungs with an arrow or bullet is stupid. The only clean way to kill and stop suffering is go up to a calmly sleeping animal and put a bolt or bullet through its head. Hunters don't do this because it ruins their trophy.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506410624 142963160,142963903,2017-09-26 07:25:06,">>142963160 >>142963242 >>142963292 pigs are monsterous creatures that eat anything with proper size, they kill people. Show cattle instead if you want actual sympathy from people.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506410706 142963160,142963912,2017-09-26 07:25:16,">>142963692 Take responsibility for what you're paying for faggot",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506410716 142963160,142964069,2017-09-26 07:27:48,">>142963825 >thinking animals don't suffer >blaeading heart liberal faggot confirmed Top of the food chain for a reason britcuck, it's not about the animals """"""""feelings"""""""" but the methods industries use. >>142963912 >take responsibility >wah wah vegan general Fuck up cunt, you're the type of vego faggot causing more people to laff at you rather than listen to you. Gas yourself entirely for missing the point cunt.",,Anonymous,1427622299522.jpg,01aCXdzrQLR0SsNXYhuWqQ==,AU,,1506410868 142963160,142964080,2017-09-26 07:27:57,">>142963160 >Milk gives you acne I'm no vegacuck but I want to +1 this knowledge. I had acne into my early twenties. Stopped drinking milk. Within a fortnight no more acne.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506410877 142963160,142964171,2017-09-26 07:29:33,">>142964069 there's nothing virtuous about treating animals like shit faggot",,Anonymous,cow.jpg,CXtNqwaeNIeUj9uZH0WBSg==,AU,,1506410973 142963160,142964222,2017-09-26 07:30:24,"fuck those animals, they even dont know any better way to live,humans are built to consume meat, fuck off you goat fuckers",,Anonymous,,,,,1506411024 142963160,142964346,2017-09-26 07:32:33,">>142964171 gee, those cows sure look tortued and not yummy anymore!!! HMM!!!! Srsly tho m8, fck off u cunt. Quit being a poofter and eat meat.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506411153 142963160,142964460,2017-09-26 07:34:21,"Lol learn the food chain, faggots. SAGED.",,Anonymous,6CD9474D-0634-43C4-A6DC-40590FBBBD18.jpg,4r/+tlbVwfnGYRlmlv51mA==,US,,1506411261 142963160,142964502,2017-09-26 07:35:08,">>142964171 >virtuous I never said it was you limp wristed sheila cunt. We, by virtue of being the most successful animal on the planet, have the choice of how we kill the animals we eat. The current methods and systems used are not sustainable and threaten the environment and need altering in order for more efficient safe systems to come to the fold. Fuck animals '""""""feeelings"""""""" you little bitch, we own the world and therefore own all animals beneath us. Grow up.",,Anonymous,1440254436467.jpg,Fxof6dXitZrauqbrW91jsQ==,AU,,1506411308 142963160,142964544,2017-09-26 07:35:52,">>142963160 >>>/c/",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506411352 142963160,142964592,2017-09-26 07:36:38,ITT: soy eating faggots,,Anonymous,,,MC,,1506411398 142963160,142964663,2017-09-26 07:37:52,">>142964502 >thinks he's tough for buying packaged meat from the super market lel you must be pretty alpha brah",,Anonymous,naturalpredator.jpg,1pE7eYp5x5A9B3tUeVnB8w==,AU,,1506411472 142963160,142964814,2017-09-26 07:40:19,get SAGED degenerates.,,SAGE,1502463930724.png,BFX9MDuEu78Yc9px1ASKWw==,FR,,1506411619 142963160,142964904,2017-09-26 07:41:50,">>142964663 >thinks he's being righteous by submitting to animal rights progressive as my dude",,Anonymous,1429701183337.jpg,38eXmu/U9gxrrdo5T3xbuA==,AU,,1506411710 142963160,142965021,2017-09-26 07:43:35,">>142964904 not treating animals like shit is righteous",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506411815 142963160,142965134,2017-09-26 07:45:34,">>142965021 >righteousness through submission Typical libcuck, you vote greens faggot?",,Anonymous,1431665585807.jpg,F0i5nN5TlKmmPcLaGLAbKg==,AU,,1506411934 142963160,142966147,2017-09-26 08:00:43,">>142963903 pigs are cute cunt",,Anonymous,1500377017728.webm,uNaGkGGNSGxSyJL+WIXTow==,AU,,1506412843 142963160,142966330,2017-09-26 08:03:08,">>142966147 Pigs are nasty, vile creatures. You're thinking of the small pigs that never grow large enough to kill people. The ones used for eating are the kind that you don't play around with. It's waste of effort trying to make people quit eating meat with pigs. You'd have more luck with horses and cattle in general. I doubt you gonna find abuse of those two meant for consumption tho, lmao.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506412988 142963160,142966687,2017-09-26 08:07:42,">>142966330 not everyone is an emotionless autist like you m8",,Anonymous,Dairy.webm,G/5sF7br6IafB5UvHw5xMA==,AU,,1506413262 142963160,142966765,2017-09-26 08:08:42,Eating dead things is healty for you goyim,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506413322 142963160,142966927,2017-09-26 08:10:50,">>142966687 lmao, you literally finding fabricated snowflake videos made by the vegan people. it's sad that whenever these surface, it's always fake for attention. If you can't name which country and which farm the abuse is happening at, don't bother posting it.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506413450 142963160,142966939,2017-09-26 08:10:58,Muhh but science says eating dead is good.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506413458 142963160,142967271,2017-09-26 08:15:25,">>142966927 >if you can't name the farm then it didn't happen lel, meatcucks I can name the farm btw",,Anonymous,vegan_universe-20170925-0011.jpg,7LqWut6mmFZG5yjq/NeVyw==,AU,,1506413725 142963160,142967344,2017-09-26 08:16:20,">>142966687 ""not everyone is an emotionless autist like you m8"" living in the farmlands, it's normal for kids to be taken to local farms during their school, even kindergarten. You get to see them pop open various animals and butcher them. It's perfectly normal, only city folk tend to be ignorant to how shit works. >>142967271 name it then, big boi. If it's in a thirld world country, it's discarded.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506413780 142963160,142967530,2017-09-26 08:18:32,">>142967344 >meatcucks so deluded they think animal abuse doesn't happen ohio, USA https://youtu.be/gYTkM1OHFQg",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506413912 142963160,142967647,2017-09-26 08:19:56,">>142967530 clearly rigged performance, worthless.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506413996 142963160,142967747,2017-09-26 08:21:07,">>142963160 Gay as fuck, my dude.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506414067 142963160,142967785,2017-09-26 08:21:37,">>142967271 Because a doggo cant grow 1500Kg of first class meat within 2 years.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506414097 142963160,142968006,2017-09-26 08:24:38,">>142967647 you're an idiot who can't accept responsibility for your actions",,Anonymous,Cow1.webm,P68QsaEha0laHjdHRJbG/w==,AU,,1506414278 142963160,142968043,2017-09-26 08:25:11,Ou wow. Think I'll make some bacon when I get up. Only question is pork belly or pork loin?,,Anonymous,1505905082316m.jpg,oTgBK/pyEgRG5cLgkIjKTw==,CA,,1506414311 142963160,142968165,2017-09-26 08:26:57,">>142963160 not gonna lie shit like this makes me want to either kill and eat my own food or just go full beta vegan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506414417 142963160,142968386,2017-09-26 08:30:24,">>142966927 Is this shit really all staged? I have a hard time believing all those animal abuse vids are just peta bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506414624 142963160,142968436,2017-09-26 08:31:16,">>142963160 Thank you for showing me this OP. From today I'm officially a vegetarian light. I will only eat meat that i hunt and kill myself. No animal should suffer.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506414676 142963160,142968476,2017-09-26 08:31:51,">>142963903 >That animal can hurt people, we should force breed millions of them in an isolated environment Animals do not need to be harmless for you to have sympathy for them. An elephant can turn a full grown man into a ragdoll in a second, doesn't mean one should be happy they are poached, taken captive, bred, forced to live and preform in captivity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506414711 142963160,142968742,2017-09-26 08:35:44,">>142963692 >u need to attack the meat industry >vegans fund $0 to animal agriculture by everyday food choices >leave us alone! i hate u vegan cunts The absolute state of omnis.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506414944 142963160,142968919,2017-09-26 08:38:10,">>142963692 that IS how you attack the industry you colossal dumb fuck. you harm corporations by tarnishing their public image and decreasing their profit margins. and you do that by appealing to the COSTUMERS of said corporations. there is no other way. If you think there is any other way to fight big corporations with unlimited money please let me know",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506415090 142963160,142969053,2017-09-26 08:40:30,">>142968742 >autism: the post.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506415230 142963160,142969219,2017-09-26 08:43:03,">>142968919 >guilting individuals with no interest in the subject is better than going against the industry and the industries support network to drive down profits No Schlomo, fukn no.",,Anonymous,1427283005229.png,aV3pAoNfrtZJtz8gONsJog==,AU,,1506415383 142963160,142969235,2017-09-26 08:43:14,">>142963160 So, vegan-kun, what of the cultural aspect? The cultural aspect of thousands of years of culinary arts revolving around animal products? >If murder was an art, would you support it??? I kind of do, desu. Martial arts are dank, but even then this would be a false equivalence because animals are fundamentally not human. >Why isn't smoking an art then? I do consider tobacco a culinary heritage of sorts, but it's not nearly as pronounced as animal industries.",,Anonymous,fallout4.png,gdi9JZrL6+B3mQy+GNs/7w==,US,,1506415394 142963160,142969251,2017-09-26 08:43:32,">>142968006 >implying there's a reason to care",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1506415412 142963160,142969344,2017-09-26 08:44:42,">>142968919 >it thinks its winning people over gross",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506415482 142963160,142969588,2017-09-26 08:48:22,">>142967530 so just because one out of 1000 farms abuse animals, we should in general stop eating meat? Youre the deluded one here m80",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1506415702 142963160,142969846,2017-09-26 08:52:25,">>142969344 not an argument",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506415945 142963160,142970113,2017-09-26 08:56:17,">>142969219 >>guilting individuals Wow, I never realised you could slut shame a meat eater.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506416177 142963160,142970342,2017-09-26 08:59:43,">>142963160 In a starvation situation, vegetarians are the first to go.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506416383 142963160,142970408,2017-09-26 09:00:50,">>142969588 >>142969588 >One out of 1000 Made up numbers. Curious why you don't consider the force breeding and harvesting of sentient beings to be abuse?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506416450 142963160,142970499,2017-09-26 09:02:03,">>142970342 >Starving situation >Flag",,Anonymous,1504880869584.jpg,LirhmQ41ARWSVNIAmabxhw==,US,,1506416523 142963160,142970668,2017-09-26 09:04:33,">>142970499 Haaa. Let a national happening come down the pike. Less than 2% are self-sufficient. Stores go empty within 3 days. Resupply trucks don't show up. Starvation within 1-2 weeks. I've seen the empty shelves and resupply issue firsthand during Katrina and Rita.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506416673 142963160,142970705,2017-09-26 09:05:12,">>142969588 It's not one just one off cases of neglect and abuse. Standard industry practices are disgusting e.g. the first three webms",,Anonymous,2014-06-04-thelondonfreepress.jpg,wJ3vhgVrwhsM/YeCmmyPaQ==,AU,,1506416712 142963160,142970962,2017-09-26 09:08:59,">>142963160 Keep it up mate Eating meat has absolutely no benefit. Even the taste is just a matter of habituation.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506416939 142963160,142971682,2017-09-26 09:18:26,"I have been studying the grass pill my dudes. Apparently the human appendix is for aiding the digestion of grass and weeds. So it seems logical that appendicitis could be a case of don't use it you lose it. Apparently /ourguy/ Henry Ford was eating a lot of boiled weeds and grass with George Washington Carver, and apparently Henry Ford had outlived and was more energetic than most of his contemporaries. What do you guys think, do humans need to incorporate grass and weeds back into our diet like our ancient ancestors used to eat?",,Anonymous,515212778.jpg,gxgdOrnzOUgB4k6BDBH1Hw==,US,,1506417506 142963160,142971807,2017-09-26 09:20:16,">>142963160 I'm not going to eat bacon for a while now. Thanks op. Fucking faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506417616 142963160,142971971,2017-09-26 09:22:29,">>142970962 Of course brah, people need to see this shit >>142971807 That's good boi",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506417749 142963160,142972523,2017-09-26 09:30:15,">>142969219 >going against the industry and the industries support network to drive down profits I asked you for alternative ways of ""going against the industry"". I will ask you again: how to fight this industry (which has unlimited money at its disposal) if not by telling consumers to boycott them? what is your alternative strategy? do fucking tell",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506418215 142963160,142972536,2017-09-26 09:30:23,">>142963160 I use to be vegan. I think I should stop eating meat because of shit like this. But in canada we do not have as many mexicans treating animals like that. Yeah, I cut out pork, but I should also stop eating cow and chicken. Eggs and fish are something I cannot ditch, since it is like 90% of my diet. I always preach being vegan for those reasons, if not being vegan at least put in an effort to avoid supporting those shit industries",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506418223 142963160,142972647,2017-09-26 09:31:52,">>142963160 >Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. >Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) >USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming >Animals store vitamin B12 in liver and muscle and some pass the vitamin into their eggs and milk; meat, liver, eggs and milk are therefore sources of the vitamin for other animals, including people.[5][7][25] For humans, the bioavailability from eggs is less than 9%, compared to 40% to 60% from fish, fowl and meat.[26] Insects are a source of B12 for animals (including other insects and humans).[25][27] >Animal sources with a significant content of vitamin B12 (range among top 20 sources of 50 to 99 µg per 100 grams)[28] include clams, organ meats (especially liver) from lamb, veal, beef, and turkey, fish eggs, mackerel, and crab meat.[4][5] >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Animal_sources >http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants#section1 >https://dailyhealthpost.com/4-brain-nutrients-found-only-in-meat-fish-and-eggs-not-plants/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506418312 142963160,142972716,2017-09-26 09:32:43,">>142963160 >Processed meattrash lowers sperm count >Crucially, however, none of these variations in diet affected the chance of the couples becoming pregnant after treatment, or having a baby. This means the study cannot prove that processed meat causes lower male fertility >Importantly, the effect of overall meat intake was not related to fertility success, which is the chance of becoming pregnant after the treatment cycles, or having a live birth. >https://www.nhs.uk/news/food-and-diet/does-red-meat-affect-male-fertility/ >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/35465 >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257705/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506418363 142963160,142972764,2017-09-26 09:33:15,">>142971807 Pussy, eat bacon you fag",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506418395 142963160,142972861,2017-09-26 09:34:35,">>142963160 >Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man >Casomorphine in milk is addictive >Milk gives you prostate cancer >Milk gives you acne >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html Also doubt the""milk=prostate cancer"" entirely especially when in the article it says: >Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem. >The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct. >difficult to tell >unrealistic and >What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study. >http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/ >http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html >http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2011.10719992",,Anonymous,Milk doesn't lower testosterone.png,tnBd1JuxxKD02/He/WjjVg==,US,,1506418475 142963160,142972999,2017-09-26 09:36:22,">>142963160 >Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer >Meat gives you colorectal cancer >Processed meattrash lowers sperm count >>142963242 >MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS. >http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/ >https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/ >http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health >https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf >https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/ >https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/ >https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/ >http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/ >https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/ >https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/ >https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us >http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/ >https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/ >http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/ >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is.html >https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365 >https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506418582 142963160,142973047,2017-09-26 09:37:03,">>142963160 >Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups >http://suppversity.blogspot.com/search?q=eggs >https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/10-proven-health-benefits-of-eggs >https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/6-reasons-why-eggs-are-the-healthiest-food-on-the-planet#section1 >http://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/189529 >http://www.bmj.com/content/346/bmj.e8539",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506418623 142963160,142973215,2017-09-26 09:39:18,What is this gay thread even?,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506418758 142963160,142973265,2017-09-26 09:40:00,">>142966330 You can pretty much play with any pig. They are fucking intelligent after all. My father wrestled with those giants as a kid.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506418800 142963160,142973335,2017-09-26 09:40:50,">>142963242 >IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION . >Implying you know anything about evolution >http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/ >https://www.livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html >https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html >https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Meat+in+the+human+diet:+an+anthropological+perspective-a0169311689 >People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an >extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was ""approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively."" This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate) >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html >>142963160 >>142963292 >http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html",,Anonymous,Eating Meat. Homo erectus female. Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History.jpg,OC1cQ2h/WNdeXfp3uJqI0Q==,US,,1506418850 142963160,142973460,2017-09-26 09:42:25,">>142973215 A shitty pseudoscience thread OP shitposts everywhere",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506418945 142963160,142973552,2017-09-26 09:43:38,">>142972536 >Eggs and fish are something I cannot ditch, since it is like 90% of my diet. you could get a chicken coop and enjoy eggs from happy chickens",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506419018 142963160,142973722,2017-09-26 09:45:44,I blame Walt Disney for humanizing animals and Feminism for creating a generation of single moms and feminazed boys. I won't stop eating meat and catching and killing my own fish...,,Normie,,,AU,,1506419144 142963160,142974072,2017-09-26 09:50:25,">>142963160 >>142963242 am I supposed to feel sympathy for those piglets? Is it supposed to turn me off eating pork? because it didn't work at all. Pigs have two uses, being eaten, and finding mushrooms.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1506419425 142963160,142974110,2017-09-26 09:51:00,">>142973215 obviously an agenda being pushed by very powerful and rich corporations who fund this movement just like they fund antifa, femenism,.. divide and conquer.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1506419460 142963160,142974602,2017-09-26 09:57:08,I'm not going to stop eating meat because some people decide to eat meat from animals in captivity and not free-range.,,Anonymous,happymeat.png,r+8NPIBGDVjBeEsww+tcuA==,DK,,1506419828 142963160,142974642,2017-09-26 09:57:38,">>142966147 That better fucking be a vegan cookie",,Anonymous,,,,,1506419858 142963160,142976710,2017-09-26 10:25:28,">>142974602 there is no farm where piglets grow up with their family. In most cases free range is a lie, especially in the case of eggs, where it simply means cage-free",,Anonymous,FreeRange.webm,ajPv9njrk0e+G+4Z5TY/7g==,AU,,1506421528 142963160,142976792,2017-09-26 10:26:33,">>142973460 lol how the fuck is PubMed psuedoscience educate yourself, meatcuck",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506421593 142963160,142976994,2017-09-26 10:29:36,"Being a vegan because muh animals is bluepilled as fuck. Being a vegan because animals are a waste of resources and should all be removed from the planet is red pilled",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506421776 142963160,142977601,2017-09-26 10:38:00,">>142963160 I just want this world to end to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506422280 142963160,142978572,2017-09-26 10:51:43,">>142974642 It is",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506423103 142963160,142978964,2017-09-26 10:57:10,If we stopped eating meat all these farm animals would be exterminated. Also animals are yummy.,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1506423430 142963160,142979125,2017-09-26 10:59:21,>>142963160,,Anonymous,,,,,1506423561 142963160,142979388,2017-09-26 11:02:44,>>>/ck/,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1506423764 142963160,142979761,2017-09-26 11:07:13,">>142968006 that's hal-hal slaughter i.e. muslim you're really bad at this, friend.¨ Every western (and australian) butchery use pressure-fired spikes into their heads so they die instantly.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506424033 142963160,142979932,2017-09-26 11:09:17,">>142976792 anyone can call themselves scientists these days, friend. It's reason as to why none get taken seriously regarding global warming, or anything that's implicating boys can be girls. literal pseudo-science.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506424157 142963160,142979979,2017-09-26 11:09:53,">>142979761 Halal slaughter is still practiced in Australia. And is widely practiced in the UK. Often people will be buying halal without knowing it because it is not required that you label it, especially in the UK",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506424193 142963160,142979984,2017-09-26 11:10:01,">vegan health You screwed up before even starting Also muh Animals and feelings, but plants dont scream when i bite into them so they dont count as living Also all the small animals and insects that die to grow fields of crops do so unnoticed so they dont count either Im so progressive and great",,Anonymous,,,,,1506424201 142963160,142980441,2017-09-26 11:16:02,">>142979979 muslims are bad people, just like pigs. It's why muslims dont eat pig meat. Their culture is mistreating animals. It's too strawman to use it as argument that eating meat is animal cruelty. You should rather advocate banning and deporting all muslims. Get your priorities straight, i know a quadroon abbo that works at an australian butchery, they spike the cows.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506424562 142963160,142981495,2017-09-26 11:30:18,">>142980441 All the first three webms are disgusting practices that occur in most western countries. This is a worldwide problem, not just muslims. In australia the process we use for killing pigs is to gas them with CO2, a death worse than having your throat slit. see >>142963292 take responsibility for actions",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506425418 142963160,142982326,2017-09-26 11:40:17,">>142981495 Hey man, it's just as much your responsibility to purge the muslims and prevent them from abusing animals. Don't pin them on me, they pose an issue wherever they are.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1506426017 142963160,142982708,2017-09-26 11:44:32,">>142963160 I don't give a shit you fucking puss, better they get killed in an industrial manner than slowly bleeding out while being fed on by a predator",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506426272 142963160,142983707,2017-09-26 11:55:42,">>142982708 Better to live in the wild than in cages and concrete",,Anonymous,sow-stall-983604893.jpg,4ahfQ5UGdKiruSLzgbOEUg==,AU,,1506426942 142963160,142984445,2017-09-26 12:04:16,">>142963160 The meat indusrty is fucking awfull, but why become a faggot vegan? >tfw righteous hunter master race >tfw not a gay urban veggan with a soy enduced baby dick",,Anonymous,0927251234.jpg,I4Yq2uzJbxLfOCcA7dWG1A==,CA,,1506427456 146459032,146459032,2017-10-24 04:35:57,"A place for discussing all things vegan health, ethics & politics. Vegan bodybuilders EXPOSE meat-based diets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez9KtNCQjlg Vegan starter kit - https://veganuary.com/starter-kit/ - Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 - Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12 - Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) https://www.godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk https://static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes - USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ - Processed meattrash lowers sperm count https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 - Casomorphine in milk is addictive https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738 - Milk gives you prostate cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754 - Milk gives you acne https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483 - Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 - Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/ - Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589",VEGAN GENERAL - Vegan Master Race Edition 3,Anonymous,TofuFitGuy.jpg,vP/JIY0ZB/+LcmVM3gaKag==,AU,,1508819757 146459032,146459116,2017-10-24 04:37:37,"FOOTAGE THE MEAT INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE Land of Hope and Glory (2017) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8 Seaspiracy (2015) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLgkrQSRy9E Lucent (2014) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U Earthlings (2005) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc2oizSsmUs Since we know meatcucks will defend this >inb4 meatcucks triggered by altruism >inb4 meatcucks triggered by science >inb4 naturalistic fallacy >inb4 might makes right fallacy >inb4 appeal to futility >inb4 amoral autists who think not caring and standing for nothing is a virtue >inb4 faggots larping as hunters >inb4 faggots larping as farmers >inb4 amerifats who think shooting something at 200m is testosteronous >inb4 telling someone to behave ethically is inherently unethical >inb4 free market is inherently moral >inb4 muh canines >inb4 everything gives you cancer MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS.",,Anonymous,ThumpingIndustryPractice1.webm,leXgGsu1D3Vp3qq1BA3oVw==,AU,,1508819857 146459032,146459166,2017-10-24 04:38:26,">>146459032 Fuck off, commie kike. It's about (((their))) globalist agenda. They want to run a prison planet of border-less, race-less, culture-less, nation-less, identity-less subdued sheep. They make up less than 1% of the world's population, yet look at all they control from the world's finances to the media that brainwashes us. In short, they use the entertainment and news media to encourage globalism and discourage nationalism and traditional western values. They distort and lie about the present and past in that effort. The truth about immigration, by the numbers: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE Cultural Marxist Jews Admit Organizing White Genocide The plan to eliminate the white race: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOgkGzMdieI Cultural Marxism in action… Political Correctness, the tip of the blade: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6c_dinY3fM Cultural Marxism & Social Justice explained: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnqIj8C2Aek Why are we in decline - Cultural Marxism: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VggFao85vTs The Jewish role in the refugee crisis: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfCOO7Z39j0 White Genocide is real - In their own words >https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=aec_1508296335 Leftist subversion explained by former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA also see The facts about slavery in North America: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5tci36bNjg Cultural Marxist Jews fund media propaganda against whites on an enormous scale: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvNNtBmA3SQ The Jewish role in the porn industry: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwd_Iofr6ZQ Does this sound familiar at all? (starting at 6:52) >https://youtu.be/kPdxhLUKZYM?list=PLo0ThsDnveH5nv5TNviBrGTX9P6IrYfIe&t=412 The Holocaust: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgGP_evkvOk >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508819906 146459032,146459235,2017-10-24 04:39:47,"Argument from marginal cases. i.e. you wouldn't farm retards http://www.iep.utm.edu/anim-eth/#SSH3ai",,Anonymous,ArgumentFromMarginalCases.png,UOaQbDharv9wQRyyVaUKjg==,AU,,1508819987 146459032,146459261,2017-10-24 04:40:18,">>146459032 if figures that a vegan post would be so longwinded",,Anonymous,sage.jpg,WBPR1btzRMZHxJG3VyjS+g==,US,,1508820018 146459032,146459295,2017-10-24 04:41:00,">>146459166 lel, none of this has anything to do with animals you autist",,Anonymous,polMEATCUCKS.jpg,Yr8azSYmiNn+DUkcHdO9Bw==,AU,,1508820060 146459032,146459631,2017-10-24 04:47:56,"Kitogenic diet is better You probably look like Russel Brand pussy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508820476 146459032,146459700,2017-10-24 04:49:27,">>146459032 Your world would not exist at all if there was farming and 1st world resources. KYS",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508820567 146459032,146459866,2017-10-24 04:52:45,">what does increased risk of cancer mean? it means the original 2% of risk is elevated to 3% (arguably) and they call it a 50% increase. Don't forget their bullshit shenanigans.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508820765 146459032,146460331,2017-10-24 05:01:52,Cucks.,,Anonymous,Veganism.png,p85wqoIezlOZRMLMKKPpCg==,US,,1508821312 146459032,146460498,2017-10-24 05:05:02,">>146459032 Man i felt euphoric as i shit on someones morals. Totally doing something to help animals!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508821502 146459032,146460508,2017-10-24 05:05:09,">>146460331 kek, go back to /mgtow/",,Anonymous,vegangf_.jpg,ESG9rIZMPgVinXec3KMVpQ==,AU,,1508821509 146459032,146460512,2017-10-24 05:05:17,">>146459032 anyone here met a vegan irl? they are usually quiet as fuck and dont talk much about it, only tend to mention it when going out for dinner and everyone is getting pizza or something similar to share the autism seems to only come out when they are on jewbook or some form of social media",,Anonymous,Old_One_Eye2.jpg,EYXEAIV5j2SgTS4sRRCD2Q==,AU,,1508821517 146459032,146460551,2017-10-24 05:06:12,">>146459032 Not politics related. Don't forget to sage and report",,Anonymous,,,,,1508821572 146459032,146460559,2017-10-24 05:06:25,">>146459631 im doing keto atm, and was curious to see if vegan keto was possible didnt end up clicking on any of the links but im assuming that they would have to eat a shit tonne of avocados, nuts and various oils",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508821585 146459032,146460587,2017-10-24 05:07:06,">>146459032 Pure garbage",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1508821626 146459032,146460601,2017-10-24 05:07:30,">>146459032 what a cuck thread. MEn are predators, we hunt and kill. This faggotery of low testosterone Nu-male need to stop, Fuck the vegans",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1508821650 146459032,146460602,2017-10-24 05:07:31,">>146459032 If Vegans didn't taste like shit, I'd hunt and eat them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508821651 146459032,146460618,2017-10-24 05:07:51,"Hey, I have a question. What if you want to be vegan, but you're still living with your family? Do you try to get your family to be vegan or do you just cook shit for yourself?",,Anonymous,,,HK,,1508821671 146459032,146460620,2017-10-24 05:07:54,Veganism is unhealthy and anti-white.,,Anonymous,,,,,1508821674 146459032,146460698,2017-10-24 05:09:27,Plants bleed and can feel pain. How dare you? They just want to live and take that sunlight but you vegans like feasting on them.,,Anonymous,1450940084348.jpg,jtwVySYCRbph2rD5wLNjhA==,CA,,1508821767 146459032,146460705,2017-10-24 05:09:37,">>146459032 I can understand vegetarians sometimes choose to not eat meat. Although there is nothing wrong with that and it is healthy to eat meat. With moderation of course. But vegans are fucking retarded. >Animals have feelings. But they can’t think not can they understand everything. They are fucking retarded. >would you eat your pet No, I eat only certain types of animals. Plus even if I didn’t I could choose to not eat my pet. Plz give me a reason to be vegan Except Muhammed animals feels",,Anonymous,,,,,1508821777 146459032,146460709,2017-10-24 05:09:43,">>146460620 There is proof homosexuality exploded with the rise of veganism. Eating vegan is like spreading your ass wanting to get fucked by alpha males.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1508821783 146459032,146460770,2017-10-24 05:11:03,">>146460705 Nor can they understand anything*",,Anonymous,,,,,1508821863 146459032,146460780,2017-10-24 05:11:23,vegan threads are shill threads. sage the soyboy.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508821883 146459032,146460844,2017-10-24 05:12:49,">>146459032 veganism was hands down one of the best choices i made i strongly encourage people to do independent research and seek the truth behind whats been happening in the meat and dairy industries, and the unholy alliance with big pharma analogous to the cigarette companies back in the early 20th century",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508821969 146459032,146460851,2017-10-24 05:13:03,Show me one vegan that isn't a full blown communist or ancom subsidiary. Faggot causes attract and breed faggots.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508821983 146459032,146460943,2017-10-24 05:14:56,">>146460851 Cory and Tara McCarthy",,Anonymous,jellybro_.jpg,EtoOr+Xfkb2KcsIJdO+rBA==,AU,,1508822096 146459032,146460953,2017-10-24 05:15:09,">>146460705 Your health",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1508822109 146459032,146461077,2017-10-24 05:17:27,">>146460943 Literally who?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508822247 146459032,146461119,2017-10-24 05:18:32,">>146460851 >vegan anti-marxist checking in",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508822312 146459032,146461164,2017-10-24 05:19:34,">>146461119 Doubtful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508822374 146459032,146461175,2017-10-24 05:19:53,">>146461077 look them up kosher boi",,Anonymous,Dairy.webm,G/5sF7br6IafB5UvHw5xMA==,AU,,1508822393 146459032,146461211,2017-10-24 05:20:42,">>146460851 I'm vegan and ancap, you 52% nigger. Now what.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508822442 146459032,146461240,2017-10-24 05:21:17,">>146460698 Less plants would die if we stopped farming cattle for meat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508822477 146459032,146461263,2017-10-24 05:21:47,">>146461164 >imblyign that I am not aware of my own opinions wew",,Anonymous,3d tard pepe.jpg,eSfN88nqrOdtL2uyUvQn/Q==,AU,,1508822507 146459032,146461285,2017-10-24 05:22:12,">>146460705 Current model is not sustainable- veganism is good for the environment",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508822532 146459032,146461311,2017-10-24 05:22:44,Being vegan is literally unnatural,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508822564 146459032,146461312,2017-10-24 05:22:44,">>146460698 WHAT DO THE FARM ANIMALS EAT?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508822564 146459032,146461346,2017-10-24 05:23:26,">>146459032 >guy in the picture >vegan",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1508822606 146459032,146461381,2017-10-24 05:24:08,">>146461311 >inb4 muh cavemen a fucking rabbit can run faster than us. Humans are not predators by nature.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508822648 146459032,146461474,2017-10-24 05:26:03,">>146461346 umad, meatcuck? https://www.instagram.com/tofu_fit_guy/",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508822763 146459032,146461510,2017-10-24 05:26:50,">>146461381 What is an ambush you carrot nigger",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1508822810 146459032,146461516,2017-10-24 05:26:56,">>146461381 Canines tho?",,Anonymous,images (6).jpg,j1QA3Fd1a3U6QVVKpriXxw==,AU,,1508822816 146459032,146461581,2017-10-24 05:28:11,">>146461516 you are joking right?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508822891 146459032,146461635,2017-10-24 05:29:07,">>146461581 of course",,Anonymous,comparative-anatomy-of-frugivore.jpg,6EZfTcFkBXzVXQYBF4c8NQ==,AU,,1508822947 146459032,146461649,2017-10-24 05:29:33,">>146461474 In his Instagram pictures he looks like a vegan but in the picture posted by op he has normal amount of body fat.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1508822973 146459032,146461738,2017-10-24 05:31:05,">>146461649 lol, /pol/ nutrition",,Anonymous,tofu_fit_guy-20171001-0002.jpg,+ArgWuNW0FWHHJrnj6EYKw==,AU,,1508823065 146459032,146461762,2017-10-24 05:31:34,">>146461510 try to stab a rabbit and film it i dare you >>146461635 downloading that",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508823094 146459032,146461771,2017-10-24 05:31:44,">>146461211 >AnCap (Lol at you) >52% meme Checking off all the boxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823104 146459032,146461789,2017-10-24 05:32:12,"you are trying too hard 11 posts for 35 (you)s is a terrible ratio",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823132 146459032,146461792,2017-10-24 05:32:16,">>146459032 Veganism is self-hatred. Human nature is what it is. Understanding human nature is part of the meaning of life. Dissociation from reality is real and harmful, despite fake news implying that all that's wrong is good and all that's good is wrong, eat that fucking delicious turkey burger with an extra slice of bacon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823136 146459032,146461795,2017-10-24 05:32:20,">>146459032 Soyboy please.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1508823140 146459032,146461806,2017-10-24 05:32:31,">>146459116 Or just go to a butcher that selects farmers they buy their meat from? I pay a bit more, but the taste is better and the animals get a better treatment. Atleast that's what I hope, can only work off the info I am able to procure myself. No more supermarket meat for me though. They can fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508823151 146459032,146461821,2017-10-24 05:32:50,">>146459032 honestly, I could kill every vegan on planet earth and feel nothing as you all have chosen to put yourselves on par with animals. i often hope and pray the grocery stores all shut down for a month so that you nigger faggots starve to death.",,Anonymous,vegans are fags.jpg,j9iEilAlor7Jpkgx8Apoog==,US,,1508823170 146459032,146461886,2017-10-24 05:34:13,">>146461821 i have a veggie garden, fuck off >>146461792 >follow your impulses enjoy diabeetus™",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508823253 146459032,146461888,2017-10-24 05:34:14,"Veganism is a Jewish meme to render men weak and helpless, filling their bodies with estrogen creating foods to further subjugate them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823254 146459032,146461928,2017-10-24 05:35:01,">I eat dog >AAAAAHHHHHHHH HOW CAN YOU EAT ANIMALS >btw if you don't eat meat you're also subhuman",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1508823301 146459032,146461935,2017-10-24 05:35:08,">>146461888 doesn't chicken contain lots of estrogen? anyway you should be more worried about flouride",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508823308 146459032,146461963,2017-10-24 05:35:56,ITT meat industry shills i.e. meatcucks trying to rationalise their actions,,Anonymous,naturalpredator.jpg,1pE7eYp5x5A9B3tUeVnB8w==,AU,,1508823356 146459032,146461974,2017-10-24 05:36:17,">>146461935 I'm worried about both, don't worry, my tinfoil covers all",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823377 146459032,146462010,2017-10-24 05:37:05,Enjoy your low T faggots. Meat + fire = how man rose above the other animals.,,Anonymous,fuckvegans.jpg,yCchq3Pokq0w0jsGxxhAvQ==,FI,,1508823425 146459032,146462039,2017-10-24 05:37:45,">>146461888 milk actually contains estrogen. educate yourself, meatcuck",,Anonymous,jamesaspey-20170930-0001.jpg,A3qgNxgWCAqx3fY+L2lZng==,AU,,1508823465 146459032,146462059,2017-10-24 05:38:12,">>146462010 How would you feel about that statement being proven objectively untrue and the opposite being reality?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508823492 146459032,146462071,2017-10-24 05:38:30,">>146462039 nigga, nothing wrong with insemination",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508823510 146459032,146462095,2017-10-24 05:39:05,">>146462039 I don't drink milk. I eat the cow and take pleasure knowing that it makes you mad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823545 146459032,146462157,2017-10-24 05:40:16,"No veganism isn’t the answer and you can’t turn a population into vegans. But you should promote eating less meat in western countries were the necessity isn’t there. It’s not natural to have such empathie to animals that you won’t use any animal products. I am a vegan only to go against what i see as a toxic industry but i don’t stand behind the movement to make everybody vegan. It would be less toxic, yea. But it’s not possible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508823616 146459032,146462180,2017-10-24 05:40:46,">>146459116 >first part of the video In a large enough group of animals there are always animals falling ill or those requiring euthanasia. The method may look questionable, but the piglet likely only feels the first blow, the rest may be reflexive spassing. >second part No shit those pigs get anxious when a human enters their barn. That likely means feeding time. If it's a bunch of strange humans, like an unwashed hippie film crew breaking and entering, the situation could even mean danger to those animals. >third part It's a pig having fun?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1508823646 146459032,146462187,2017-10-24 05:40:58,most vegans are protein deficient,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508823658 146459032,146462222,2017-10-24 05:41:41,">>146462157 It's not necessarily empathy, it's being consistent with your ethical convictions. Either use and abuse is okay, or it isn't, therefore no animal products",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508823701 146459032,146462242,2017-10-24 05:42:05,">>146459032 Lol fucking dumbass doesn't realize that the reason meat will give you all of those problems is because of the fucking shit they feed the cows.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823725 146459032,146462257,2017-10-24 05:42:31,">>146462039 Estrogen that gets broken down by your stomach acid. Food having hormones doesnt mean chicken burgers raise your test levels ffs.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508823751 146459032,146462272,2017-10-24 05:42:46,">>146462180 lel this is your explanation. stop trying to justify it to yourself pussy",,Anonymous,CutePig.webm,uNaGkGGNSGxSyJL+WIXTow==,AU,,1508823766 146459032,146462274,2017-10-24 05:42:49,">>146460851 vegan white nationalist here",,Anonymous,Af6eOES.jpg,KZ1rTnG41E9iLC0ThMh7cQ==,AU,,1508823769 146459032,146462286,2017-10-24 05:43:06,"We aren’t predators. If buy your fucking meat in the supermarket than that doesn’t make you a predator. If you eat you’re unhealthy lowe quality meat that doesn’t mean you’re masculine. Kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1508823786 146459032,146462300,2017-10-24 05:43:27,">>146459032 >>146462059 > I voluntarily go to the bottom of the food chain > let me give you advice No thanks, mentally ill person.",,Anonymous,1483813184812.jpg,ZkSMwWPwxL9wJZx1vNeSbA==,CH,,1508823807 146459032,146462301,2017-10-24 05:43:27,">>146461886 me too faggot. i still would bet $1,000 you buy most of your food from some homosexual organic grocery store, and bet $1,000,000 in case of total societal collapse, there will be four guys like me who will glady come along, kill you, take your nu-male gay virtue signaling belongings, burn them, fuck your wife, fuck your mom, then kill them as well... all just because its universally understood you're all faggots incapable of killing for survival.",,Anonymous,old meme.jpg,e2dej/jg01P+oFX9wLWhsA==,US,,1508823807 146459032,146462370,2017-10-24 05:44:51,">be allergic to everything >be lactose intolerant >get sick from undercooked meatloaf as a kid >welp, might as well become vegan >at least vegetables won't kill me >be 27 >meet a qt in class >she's vegan >""wanna get some vegan dinner?"" >date going well >""let's get some coffee"" *wink *wink >stir some honey into my cup >her face contorts into a red beet >BEES SLAVED FOR YOUR HONEY!!!! >explain I don't actually give a shit about animals >she storms out the door >never talk to her again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823891 146459032,146462371,2017-10-24 05:44:52,">>146462301 umadbro?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508823892 146459032,146462395,2017-10-24 05:45:20,">>146459032 why is this shit being spammed on /fit/ and /pol/?",,Anonymous,,,,,1508823920 146459032,146462402,2017-10-24 05:45:32,">>146462301 big bad meat boi better watch out vegans kek",,Anonymous,vegan_universe-20170925-0016.jpg,Cm1CJqyWPystd/l66upO0w==,AU,,1508823932 146459032,146462431,2017-10-24 05:46:08,">>146462371 not at all. only a homosexual vegan would mistake a testosterone filled Chad's shitpost against a beta as anger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508823968 146459032,146462436,2017-10-24 05:46:14,">>146459032 /thread Sage",,Anonymous,,,,,1508823974 146459032,146462484,2017-10-24 05:47:17,">>146459032 What has happened to pol? I am really worried! > VEGAN GENERAL - Vegan Master Race Edition 3",,Anonymous,1498482690671.gif,XJieW5/D8ZV5XGf13T4M+A==,DE,,1508824037 146459032,146462511,2017-10-24 05:47:50,">>146462484 veganism is aligned with Nazism, meat eaters (brainless consumers) will hang on the day of the rope",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508824070 146459032,146462555,2017-10-24 05:48:46,">>146462511 > mplying nazism is bad GTFO!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1508824126 146459032,146462604,2017-10-24 05:49:42,">>146462059 I'm listening, but first I'd like to start by saying that meat protein is more readily available for use in the human body for building up muscle tissue. I went from a vegan diet with loads of soy, nuts, vegetables to a balanced diet including meat, whey protein, lots of fruit + vegetables gained 15kg of muscle in 5 weeks with the same gym routine. On my vegan diet I felt weak and became vitamin D, calcium and B12 deficient, my sleep schedule became fucked up. For my girlfriend soy began to give her heartburn. >Vitamin B12 is naturally found in animal products, including fish, meat, poultry, eggs, milk, and milk products. Vitamin B12 is generally not present in plant foods. >Very few foods in nature contain vitamin D. The flesh of fatty fish (such as salmon, tuna, and mackerel) and fish liver oils are among the best sources. Small amounts of vitamin D are found in beef liver, cheese, and egg yolks, mushrooms. To get these vitamins I would need too either A) eat animal products or B) take tablets sourced from animal products or C) pay a large amount of money for something synthetic I would normally get in a balance diet including meat.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1508824182 146459032,146462605,2017-10-24 05:49:43,">>146462555 Learn to read you fucking cabbage.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508824183 146459032,146462637,2017-10-24 05:50:24,">>146462555 good job retard",,Anonymous,1501962562727.jpg,CacvPyo3ivDpQdYMGgcZLQ==,AU,,1508824224 146459032,146462663,2017-10-24 05:50:54,">>146462511 absolutely. All great men love animals",,Anonymous,1504860578459.jpg,DTaKdxhu9Srb/OVRbs8/SQ==,AU,,1508824254 146459032,146462680,2017-10-24 05:51:20,">>146462511 >meat eaters - the nickname for brutal warriors in the US military >going to hang on the day of the rope not sure if jewish, or lack of omega-3's and legitimate protein has caused irreparable brain damage",,Anonymous,MyFellow_goyim.jpg,gIPx5Cl2B22fJ7hWRaSx/g==,US,,1508824280 146459032,146462688,2017-10-24 05:51:30,">>146462187 That's BS protein deficiency rarely appears to any vegans. because of protein almost being in anything in nowadays",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508824290 146459032,146462751,2017-10-24 05:52:52,">>146459032 please explain... how can I go vegan as a rugby prop?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1508824372 146459032,146462816,2017-10-24 05:54:09,">>146462604 Vitamin B12 is not found naturally in animal products, it's supplemented into their feed. B12 is produced by a bacteria that lives in soil. Ever since modern aggricultural and hygiene practices, we no longer find this in our vegetables and drinking water. You can literally get vitamin D from the sun. Up here with us where we can't get enough sun, and certainly not enough from animal product since both our populations are severely vitamin D deficient, it should be supplemented. Especially during the winter. B12 tablets are not sourced from animal products. Just drink oat or soy milk that is fortified with B12 and vitamin D, problem solved.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508824449 146459032,146462824,2017-10-24 05:54:15,">>146462222 i agree, but in a situation where the meat industry wasnt this toxic and abusive. my empathy for animals wouldn't get in the way. but that's just me i guess",,Anonymous,,,,,1508824455 146459032,146462835,2017-10-24 05:54:27,">>146459235 This is retarded for several reasons. This argument compares healthy animals with braindead humans. So the quality normal aminals don't have is absent in cripples that need intensive care to live. To make a fair comparison for a general rule we either need to talk about healthy specimens or crippled specimens in both cases. It also ignores that we decide what to slaughter on more reasons than just understanding and intelligence. The quality of mean, cultural norms and much more all plays a part in it. An Australian may be intellectually the same as a pig, but it is still a human culturally and physicly. Therefore the Australian benefits from the protection all humans benefit from. Also, not all kinds of meat are equal. The quality of meat differs hugely. Human meat is a very real health hazard, because of illnesses and parasites that don't even have to jump the cross species divide. tl:dr Chopped liver reminds Australians too much of their mom.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1508824467 146459032,146462839,2017-10-24 05:54:30,">>146462751 keep macros the same",,Anonymous,3300 kcal with as much protein as clarence takes.png,2C+OyZ/8ibD6QvikYWaW3Q==,AU,,1508824470 146459032,146462903,2017-10-24 05:55:45,">Come into a forum >Start randomly insulting and belittling people Good job, retard, every time you do this you push away another person you could convert to your way of living. >Hurr if someone is dumb enough to eat meat then I don't need to convert them or anything durr Then why bother making this thread if not to convert people? Why come into /pol/ at all just to screech like an animal at strangers about what cucks/retards/savages they are? You're not going to catch any flies with salt, champ. >I'm not here to convert anyone! Which is why the whole purpose of this thread, judging by the information you post, is to convert people to veganism?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508824545 146459032,146462963,2017-10-24 05:56:54,">>146462751 how 2 vegan athlete >eat a fuck load of carbs >take steroids >cut off your cock >cut off your balls >??????? >profit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508824614 146459032,146462971,2017-10-24 05:57:06,">>146462835 you haven't said anything. Explain which premises you reject and why you reject them",,Anonymous,IndustryPracticeThumping2.webm,NuOyXSYn5CkMTg4TGM9yHA==,AU,,1508824626 146459032,146462995,2017-10-24 05:57:35,Fuck off soy boy,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1508824655 146459032,146463143,2017-10-24 06:00:08,"Kale, Kalen, Kalesia, Olive, Olivia, etc.",,Anonymous,cvrjpeg.jpg,BC0PPZs40Bco1guXvZa+lQ==,US,,1508824808 146459032,146463197,2017-10-24 06:01:11,">>146459032 what do you think of being scavengetarian? is it ok to buy meat that is: -going to be thrown away soon -way under profitable price because the shop has reduced it [because its about to go out of date], therefore not supporting it also, is anyone here freegan?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1508824871 146459032,146463323,2017-10-24 06:03:20,Okay. It's another cuck post.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508825000 146459032,146463356,2017-10-24 06:03:52,">>146463197 yeah that sounds reasonable i suppose, other situations where eating meat is fine is if theres an overpopulation of kangaroos and you have to hunt some to bring their numbers down, you may as well eat their meat.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508825032 146459032,146463449,2017-10-24 06:05:36,">>146462971 1. Don't compare healthy animals with crippled humans. If you do that you're comparing something and something else with another qualifier tacked on to it. 2. We decide what animals are okay to eat on more than just intellect.Culture plays a role, too. 3. Even if humans are intellectually on the level of animals, such as when they're retarded, health risks unique to human meat still apply.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1508825136 146459032,146463524,2017-10-24 06:06:50,">>146463197 nah dude. fresh, quality meat is well worth a few extra shekels",,Anonymous,sounds semetic.png,m+PpQMDrhDOEX5JFohLVsQ==,US,,1508825210 146459032,146463545,2017-10-24 06:07:08,">>146459166 Uh, retard, I can be against the jewish globalist agenda and also be a vegan. Its not hard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508825228 146464084,146464084,2017-10-24 06:17:43,"A place for discussing all things vegan health, ethics & politics pic - https://www.instagram.com/tofu_fit_guy/ Vegan starter kit - https://veganuary.com/starter-kit/ - Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 - Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12 - Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) https://www.godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk https://static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes - USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ - Processed meattrash lowers sperm count https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 - Casomorphine in milk is addictive https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738 - Milk gives you prostate cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754 - Milk gives you acne https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483 - Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 - Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/ - Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589",VEGAN GENERAL - Vegan Master Race Edition 4,Anonymous,TofuFitGuy.jpg,vP/JIY0ZB/+LcmVM3gaKag==,AU,,1508825863 146464084,146464140,2017-10-24 06:18:54,"FOOTAGE THE MEAT INDUSTRY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE Land of Hope and Glory (2017) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8 Seaspiracy (2015) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLgkrQSRy9E Lucent (2014) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U Earthlings (2005) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc2oizSsmUs Since we know meatcucks will defend this >inb4 meatcucks triggered by altruism >inb4 meatcucks triggered by science >inb4 naturalistic fallacy >inb4 might makes right fallacy >inb4 appeal to futility >inb4 amoral autists who think not caring and standing for nothing is a virtue >inb4 faggots larping as hunters >inb4 faggots larping as farmers >inb4 amerifats who think shooting something at 200m is testosteronous >inb4 telling someone to behave ethically is inherently unethical >inb4 free market is inherently moral >inb4 muh canines >inb4 everything gives you cancer MEAT GIVING US CANCER IS NOT FILTERED OUT BY EVOLUTION BECAUSE WE REPRODUCE BEFORE WE GET CANCER. YOU DUMB FUCKS.",,Anonymous,ThumpingIndustryPractice1.webm,leXgGsu1D3Vp3qq1BA3oVw==,AU,,1508825934 146464084,146464220,2017-10-24 06:20:17,">>146464084 How do them Brazil nuts taste? Oh my bad. You call them nigged toes right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508826017 146595531,146595531,2017-10-25 09:24:54,"A place for discussing all things vegan ethics, politics & health Meat consumption is ruining the environment. - Pollutes rivers - Forests cleared for livestock - Causes soil degradation - Massive inefficiency to grow crops then feed them to animals - Major contributor to global warming. Wikipedia - Environmental impact of meat production https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production Reports http://webarchive.loc.gov/all/20100203152611/http://www.eurekalert.org/images/release_graphics/pdf/EH5.pdf https://www.nrdc.org/sites/default/files/less-beef-less-carbon-ip.pdf Vegan Health (meatcucks please read the following before leaving a stupid comment) https://www.reddit.com/r/veganfitness/wiki/index Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 Vegan ethics Animals and Ethics - http://www.iep.utm.edu/anim-eth/#SSH3ai Most common and well known argument is the argument from marginal cases. Loosely speaking, the argument contends that animals as sentient & intelligent as retards should have the same moral status (Meatcucks please read the following before leaving a stupid comment) Ad Hominem - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem e.g. vegans are faggots Strawman - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman e.g. vegans want white genocide Appeal to nature - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature e.g. meat is natural and therefore ethical Tu Quoque - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque e.g. vegans buy computers Morality is relative - Science, logic, mathematics are all based on axioms that are not proven nor justified, what is different about morality and moral axioms? Think this argument through before arguing for it, it is not as simple as you think. Also read the following Moral Realism - https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-realism/ Earthlings - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc2oizSsmUs Dominion (2018) Trailer - https://youtu.be/LpDJlEQsDoA",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,1508937890664.jpg,XTXjbjut1C/GX/6DNei71g==,AU,,1508923494 146595531,146595830,2017-10-25 09:29:06,ITT: Aussie soy boy cries into his broccoli because people like to eat eggs,,Anonymous,,,,,1508923746 146595531,146596596,2017-10-25 09:39:47,">>146595830 Aussies are far more principled than the people any other western nation",,Anonymous,jessiesimpsonross-20171018-0002.jpg,E9YSKgU5t7Nca5LxAWZYGQ==,AU,,1508924387 146595531,146596723,2017-10-25 09:41:35,"I think you're pretty much 100% right on all points. The environmental devastation alone is reason enough to at least cut down heavily on consumption of animal products. I'm not fully vegan myself but I don't eat sea food of any kind and very infrequently a tiny bit of meat.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1508924495 146595531,146596829,2017-10-25 09:43:10,You had me until you linked reddit. Going to eat a steak now.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508924590 146595531,146597119,2017-10-25 09:47:00,">>146595531 If then you do not make yourself equal to God, you cannot apprehend God; for like is known by like. Leap clear of all that is corporeal, and make yourself grown to a like expanse with that greatness which is beyond all measure; rise above all time and become eternal; then you will apprehend God. Think that for you too nothing is impossible; deem that you too are immortal, and that you are able to grasp all things in your thought, to know every craft and science; find your home in the haunts of every living creature; make yourself higher than all heights and lower than all depths; bring together in yourself all opposites of quality, heat and cold, dryness and fluidity; think that you are everywhere at once, on land, at sea, in heaven; think that you are not yet begotten, that you are in the womb, that you are young, that you are old, that you have died, that you are in the world beyond the grave; grasp in your thought all of this at once, all times and places, all substances and qualities and magnitudes together; then you can apprehend God. But if you shut up your soul in your body, and abase yourself, and say “I know nothing, I can do nothing; I am afraid of earth and sea, I cannot mount to heaven; I know not what I was, nor what I shall be,” then what have you to do with God?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508924820 146595531,146597227,2017-10-25 09:48:42,"You know what really grinds my gears? Meat eater sweat. It's seriously affecting my ability to concentrate at work. I didn't realize how horrendous meat sweat smells until I became a vegan. I think if more meat eaters were aware of how they smell then vegetarianism would be standard. They don't realize that meat is the reason they have to shower and waste water more than once a week, unlike vegans who can go days without.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508924922 146595531,146597240,2017-10-25 09:48:52,">be me >go to subway >10/10 girl behind the counter >order a veggie patty on sesame bread >""spicy or normal cheese?"" >""Uh..."" >start thinking how she might think badly about vegans >""spicy"" How do I stop dropping my spaghetti in social settings?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508924932 146595531,146598285,2017-10-25 10:03:05,">>146597119 wtf even is this",,Anonymous,ThumpingIndustryPractice1.webm,leXgGsu1D3Vp3qq1BA3oVw==,AU,,1508925785 146595531,146598415,2017-10-25 10:05:00,"Vegetarian here, for moral reasons (I like the taste of meat and think it's healthy, but I can't justify the cruelty). I do want to go vegan eventually, as the production of milk, cheese and eggs entails much suffering, as well. Hopefully I will eventually have the strength to cut them out for good.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508925900 146595531,146599143,2017-10-25 10:15:10,">>146598285 corpus hermeticum, gnostic text that inspired the renaissance and preaches veganism the final line ""With such hopes we turn to a pure meal that includes no living thing."" look into the Clementine gospels which also preached abstinence from eating flesh",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508926510 146595531,146599239,2017-10-25 10:16:35,">>146598415 There's many health benefits to going full vegan. See the following Vegan starter kit - https://veganuary.com/starter-kit/ - Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 - Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12 - Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) https://www.godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk https://static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes - USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ - Processed meattrash lowers sperm count https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 - Casomorphine in milk is addictive https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738 - Milk gives you prostate cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754 - Milk gives you acne https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483 - Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 - Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/ - Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589",,Anonymous,FreeRange.webm,ajPv9njrk0e+G+4Z5TY/7g==,AU,,1508926595 146595531,146599302,2017-10-25 10:17:21,Someone please fucking nuke melbourne,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508926641 146595531,146599361,2017-10-25 10:18:24,">>146595531 if I become a vegan can I still eat her ass?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508926704 146595531,146599372,2017-10-25 10:18:35,">>146598285 what makes people torture animals?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508926715 146595531,146599492,2017-10-25 10:20:15,">>146599143 I often wonder why Christians are not near universally vegan, since Adam and Eve wouldve been in the garden of Eden",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508926815 146595531,146599555,2017-10-25 10:21:05,">>146599239 You realize that most academia is trash, right? Nutrition is probably even one of the least scientific of all fields.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1508926865 146595531,146599621,2017-10-25 10:21:58,">not being fruititarian ISHYGDDT you do realise that plants can feel pain too... right? the only part of a plant that is not engaging in violence to eat is a fruit, anything else is murder in a sense.",,Anonymous,FA3868B5-FE9A-4F7B-93DA-6DD08845C9F2.jpg,TuOiWqJwF49491dPcbSMmw==,,,1508926918 146595531,146599625,2017-10-25 10:21:59,">>146599492 2 options 1. You are a drooling retard 2. Advanced shitposting Since your're upside down i assume the second?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1508926919 146595531,146600198,2017-10-25 10:29:22,">>146599625 sincere. Explain to me why you hate animals bro",,Anonymous,CutePig.webm,uNaGkGGNSGxSyJL+WIXTow==,AU,,1508927362 146595531,146600370,2017-10-25 10:31:18,">>146600198 explain why i should stop eating tasty food because it hurts your feelings?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508927478 146595531,146600670,2017-10-25 10:34:59,">>146597240 say none because maybe you're a lactard and can't eat dairy, i know way more people who don't eat dairy because they can't process lactose properly way more people avoid dairy for that reason, at least in my experience",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508927699 146595531,146600964,2017-10-25 10:38:23,">>146595531 >Is fag vegan >Posts a link to reddit A dick, you need to eat one.",,Anonymous,1499473649013.jpg,+tOGP2vUBmlMByNRw1WdXw==,,,1508927903 146595531,146601445,2017-10-25 10:44:27,"""moral vegans"" are often times quite annoying however, there are many good reasons to avoid eating a lot of meat. taste is not one of those reasons. steak is delicious. from a health standpoint, eating a moderate diet amounts of fresh and fermented legumes, greens, and vegetables is good for you. being mostly-vegan is good for your cardiovascular system, your liver, your gut microbes (which is increasingly being linked to psychological wellbeing) etc. it isn't just because of the food you eat, it's also because of the food you don't eat as well. i don't mean meat, i mean that when you are trying to follow a vegan diet, you're not going to go eat at mcdonalds or wendys or some other shitpile fast food store. you probably won't eat fried foods because most restaurants (except specifically vegan ones) use their fryers for chicken, seafood, etc. once you get into the habit of thinking about what you eat instead of just grabbing what is cheap/easy/you're used to, it gets easier to cut out things like sugar so that you don't end up with the 'beetus by age 50 and start losing your vision and getting gangrene in your feet and shit. everyone shits their pants about soy but vegan doesn't mean soy-based. yeah if you need a vitamin fix then fortified soy milk is good, miso soup is fucking delicious. i can't stand the taste of tofu though. i don't eat it. i",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508928267 146595531,146603630,2017-10-25 11:08:18,Everyone who is redpilled sees through (((them))) and goes vegan.,,Anonymous,881414.png,tGsnLPe/At3yzk42Taaa0Q==,,,1508929698 146595531,146603777,2017-10-25 11:10:04,">>146595531 >vegan Yes goym, become poorfags on your own. Since the earlitest days of humankind meat was a symbol of rich. Only poorfags eat plants.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1508929804 146595531,146604031,2017-10-25 11:13:01,">>146600964 >not checking the flag Anon is an Aussie. Aussies love to shitpost. What did you expect?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508929981 146595531,146604243,2017-10-25 11:15:35,I don't care desu.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508930135 146595531,146604539,2017-10-25 11:18:49,Where do you get the proteins?,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1508930329 146595531,146604548,2017-10-25 11:18:55,">>146595531 >vegan ethics, politics, and health This is why veganism is a dumpster fire.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508930335 146595531,146604655,2017-10-25 11:20:06,">>146603777 a diet based on some silly class perception rather than actual nutritional merit? really? fucksake poland i know you guys aren't the brightest but really.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1508930406 146595531,146604840,2017-10-25 11:22:07,">>146603630 nice chart, saved",,Anonymous,1504860578459.jpg,DTaKdxhu9Srb/OVRbs8/SQ==,AU,,1508930527 146595531,146604955,2017-10-25 11:23:19,>>146604539,,Anonymous,3300 kcal with as much protein as clarence takes.png,2C+OyZ/8ibD6QvikYWaW3Q==,AU,,1508930599 146595531,146605455,2017-10-25 11:28:40,">>146595531 I'm vegetarian (mostly vegan except when I eat out, there I allow myself to have dairy products like cheese and butter), was vegan for a year but it's too hindering to social life, at least in Portugal. You have to eat at special restaurants or instruct the waiters on how to make step by step what you want, ending up with an undressed salad with baked potatoes .",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1508930920 146595531,146605517,2017-10-25 11:29:31,">>146595531 I'd feed that girl my sausage, if you know what I mean.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1508930971 146595531,146605777,2017-10-25 11:32:10,">>146604655 Cooked meats is what elevated us above the lesser beasts.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1508931130 146595531,146605825,2017-10-25 11:32:36,">>146595531 stop the unethical mass murdering of insects",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1508931156 146595531,146606064,2017-10-25 11:35:02,">>146605777 shifting from hunter-gatherer to agrarian settlements is what moved humanity forward",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508931302 146595531,146606321,2017-10-25 11:38:01,">>146595531 Humans are meant to eat meat. It's the reason we're so intelligent today. However, I agree that one shouldn't ve cruel to animals. It's a very low thing to do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508931481 146595531,146606334,2017-10-25 11:38:09,Veganism is satanism,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508931489 146595531,146607034,2017-10-25 11:45:41,"Ayy lmao, like just eat the animal it's more efficient since all the veggies are in them already. https://youtu.be/RLrPJdd4708",,Anonymous,,,,,1508931941 146595531,146607352,2017-10-25 11:49:10,">>146598285 ahhh you're the cunt that post this shit on /fit/ kys i feel nothing when i watch this why bother bringing emotional arguments to /pol/ are you fucking retarded?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1508932150 146595531,146607405,2017-10-25 11:49:41,">>146607034 are you seriously a fan of this retard? https://youtu.be/r8Uyzgp4Ijk",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508932181 146595531,146607439,2017-10-25 11:50:07,">>146595531 Just look at her teeth, so cute and lickable. What a lucky piece of shit to have such a hot girl and what's he do? Abuses her with this vejan bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1508932207 146595531,146607752,2017-10-25 11:53:31,"I abandoned dairy products, only occasionally eat a bit of cheese - going to cut it off eventually. Out of all the meat, I rarely eat fish, sometimes chicken - planning on cutting that out too once I find a tasty vegan replacement. Environmental and efficiency issues are most concerning.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1508932411 146595531,146607757,2017-10-25 11:53:36,">>146599492 >I often wonder why Christians are not near universally vegan freemason wizard named Bacon changed parts of the bible to suit the needs, this included what people ate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508932416 146595531,146607837,2017-10-25 11:54:29,">>146601445 >""moral vegans"" are often times quite annoying the part I hate the most is when they take up important projects and fail to finish them",,Anonymous,8798178.jpg,79wLScthdTL0y5+XFa09cQ==,US,,1508932469 146595531,146607860,2017-10-25 11:54:50,">>146603777 >meat was a symbol of rich. this is true, which is why the rich get more cancer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508932490 146595531,146608005,2017-10-25 11:56:21,">>146595531 GO AWAY, BATIN",,Anonymous,10825362.jpg,L2mYvCzBd18n8tO9/+2Bjg==,,,1508932581 146595531,146608077,2017-10-25 11:57:14,">>146607837 lol @ using Hitler in anti vegan post",,Anonymous,1508947032135.jpg,F0G3oKST0SshAXMaM+XAOA==,AU,,1508932634 146595531,146608212,2017-10-25 11:58:53,"V*gans are fucking retarded. Without large herds of grazing animals grasslands DEGRADE. Conventional BLM dumb govt stocking densities is degrading land. Grasslands formed in symbiosis with large dense herds of animals. On the left of this image is a grassland maintained by short periods of intense disturbance by large herds of animals and long periods of rest. Large herds break up soil evenly, allowing water infiltration into soil, evenly fertilize the soil, trample organic matter to allow further water retention of soil, resets plants to settings for optimal growth. On the right is conventionally managed land with low-density and anti-natural ""livestock is bad for land"" mindset that the gay as fuck BLM, govt, and vegans push.",,Anonymous,Karoo.jpg,kBGRv6ZvuSmPdsbj17BNZg==,US,,1508932733 146595531,146608252,2017-10-25 11:59:15,>>146608212,,Anonymous,wyoming.jpg,KQdSi3PmjIVu6Hjw4mKdUg==,US,,1508932755 146595531,146608275,2017-10-25 11:59:32,>>146608252,,Anonymous,zimbabwe.jpg,GBPON3mQi0+5Dmet9tcg6g==,US,,1508932772 146595531,146608362,2017-10-25 12:00:24,">>146595531 >>>/lgbt/",,Anonymous,,,,,1508932824 146595531,146608550,2017-10-25 12:02:34,">>146608212 BLM stands for Bureau of Land Management fyi",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508932954 146595531,146608556,2017-10-25 12:02:37,">>146595531 >>146595830 >>146596596 >>146596723 >>146596829 >>146597119 >>146597227 >>146597240 >>146598285 >>146598415 >>146599143 >>146599239 >>146599302 >>146599361 >>146599372 >>146599492 >>146599555 >>146599621 >>146599625 >>146600198 >>146600370 >>146600670 >>146600964 >>146601445 >>146603630 >>146603777 >>146604031 >>146604243 >>146604539 >>146604548 >>146604655 >>146604840 >>146604955 >>146605455 >>146605517 >>146605777 >>146605825 >>146606064 >>146606321 >>146606334 >>146607034 >>146607352 >>146607405 >>146607439 >>146607752 >>146607757 >>146607837 >>146607860 >>146608005 >>146608077 >>146608212 >>146608252 >>146608275 >>146608362 https://youtu.be/YjfZQ9skUTw YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY THE SKELETON OF VEGAN GAINS, POST ""I'M GAINING WEIGHT AND MUSCLE AND STRENGTH"" IN THIS THREAD OR THE VEGAN SKELETON WILL STEAL YOUR GAINS!",,Anonymous,vegan.jpg,JLJQraekyBEQI4DPbjM6CQ==,US,,1508932957 146595531,146608606,2017-10-25 12:03:21,WTF is with the vegan shilling the last month??!?,,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508933001 146595531,146610040,2017-10-25 12:18:49,">>146595531 Nothing is more urban ""city person"" than a teenager who realizes, after all these years, that something has to die in order for her to eat. The female brain has learned to affiliate murder with something bad, and then refuses to eat unless she can be fooled to believe something didn't die for her nutrients, which usually means she ends up eating poo poo and pee pee. With conformation all the sheep usually ends up eaten.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508933929 146595531,146610443,2017-10-25 12:22:57,">>146599492 brainlet non-christian detected Genesis 9:3 ESV / Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.",,Anonymous,1493936370507.jpg,jUuWS2BAKnnKKU6iSbYfEg==,US,,1508934177 146595531,146610959,2017-10-25 12:28:40,"I don't much care about ethics and politics, and I don't necessarily hate the taste of some meat, I just can't get past the texture of meat. I just like plants more. But, by all means, run over a deer, bring it home and put it on your table, but pass the brussel sprouts nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508934520 146595531,146612067,2017-10-25 12:40:44,"A question I pose to vegans: How do you feel about consuming meat if the animal did not suffer and died naturally of old age? You can only bury so many animals, right? Would you object to this practice? What about only eating meat from accidental animal death, like a deer that got hit by a car for example? What about lab grown tissue cultures of animal protein that have no central nervous system and thus do not suffer? What do you say? If the reason for being a vegan is a 'moral' one, practiced on the basis of ""minimizing suffering"", then you surely wouldn't reject these forms of sustenance?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508935244 146595531,146612237,2017-10-25 12:42:40,Fucking vegans on here believe that the meat and dairy industry is cruel but don't believe the holocaust (i dont either btw) you cunts are retarded,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1508935360 146595531,146612353,2017-10-25 12:43:50,">>146595830 Fpbp",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508935430 146595531,146612408,2017-10-25 12:44:33,">>146595531 >Linking to Reddit You have to go back",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508935473 146595531,146612609,2017-10-25 12:46:40,">>146598285 Yum bacon!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508935600 146595531,146612949,2017-10-25 12:50:27,"I'm a dairy farmer, used to be only beef farmer and even got to see around the slaughterhouse. It's literally 3 seconds of suffering for the cattle at most you fucks don't know anything about farming and claim to be some sort of protectors of the environment; Well let me ask you this: How many acres of trees have you planted? How many animals (not for farming) do you keep? How many homes do you give power to with wind turbines and solar panels? You cunts are thick",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1508935827 146595531,146612985,2017-10-25 12:50:49,">>146595531 hello there",,Anonymous,carne-mal-passada2.jpg,bxEZfteRVlcncseIR/ut7g==,BR,,1508935849 146595531,146613042,2017-10-25 12:51:29,">>146608556 >>146608556 I'M GAINING WEIGHT AND MUSCLE AND STRENGTH",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1508935889 146595531,146613550,2017-10-25 12:57:25,">>146595531 https://youtu.be/z0O_VYcsIk8",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508936245 146595531,146614611,2017-10-25 13:09:35,">>146612949 stop ruining the environment with your cattle",,Anonymous,jamesaspey-20170930-0001.jpg,A3qgNxgWCAqx3fY+L2lZng==,AU,,1508936975 146595531,146614746,2017-10-25 13:11:14,>>146612985,,Anonymous,its-fucking-raw-14459881.png,BTUXbXFrf4q7+XvFG0132A==,DE,,1508937074 146595531,146615795,2017-10-25 13:23:11,">>146614746 not just raw, bloody bloody like our enemies will be",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1508937791 146741260,146741260,2017-10-26 13:35:58,"Veganism is about creating social and political change, it is not just a diet. Not only does it pertain to ethics, it pertains to the environment, food subsidies etc. It has been part of eastern philosophy for centuries. Put frankly, eating meat and being cruel to animals is degeneracy, veganism is moral purity. Why so many white supremacists are into veganism https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/evb4zw/why-so-many-white-supremacists-are-into-veganism Meat consumption is ruining the environment. - Pollutes rivers - Forests cleared for livestock - Causes soil degradation - Massive inefficiency to grow crops then feed them to animals - Major contributor to global warming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production Vegan Health https://www.reddit.com/r/veganfitness/wiki/index http://www.veganhealthandfitnessmag.com/2015/02/where-do-you-get-your-b12/ Animals and Ethics - http://www.iep.utm.edu/anim-eth/#SSH3ai Most common and well known argument is the argument from marginal cases. Loosely speaking, the argument contends that animals as sentient & intelligent as retards should have the same moral status (Meatcucks please read the following before leaving a stupid comment) Ad Hominem - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem e.g. vegans are faggots Strawman - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman e.g. vegans want white genocide Appeal to nature - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature e.g. meat is natural and therefore ethical Tu Quoque - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque e.g. vegans buy computers Morality is relative - Science, logic, mathematics are all based on axioms that are not proven, what is different about morality and moral axioms? Think this argument through before arguing for it, it is not as simple as you think. Moral Realism - https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/moral-realism/ Dominion (2018) Trailer - https://youtu.be/LpDJlEQsDoA",Right Wing Vegan General,Anonymous,1509039354088.jpg,kXshGS1xAPK7aDck/JNyBQ==,AU,,1509024958 146741260,146741327,2017-10-26 13:36:47,"Discord - discord dot gg/U5D7tD",,Anonymous,881414.png,tGsnLPe/At3yzk42Taaa0Q==,AU,,1509025007 146741260,146741409,2017-10-26 13:37:39,">>146741260 Is there enough infrastructure and food sources to sustain a shift to veganism? No and not by a long shot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509025059 146741260,146741539,2017-10-26 13:39:12,">>146741409 wut? most of our crops are wasted on animals",,Anonymous,1509039549983.jpg,eJZN4bjdEIyv+EipFLgm7Q==,AU,,1509025152 146741260,146741546,2017-10-26 13:39:15,">>146741260 >vegan >being half a man pick one Also, saged",,Anonymous,1472617921711.jpg,+WfBlCF65RdlEON7KnSM8Q==,US,,1509025155 146741260,146741674,2017-10-26 13:40:43,">>146741539 So we need to kill all the animals in order to eat their food then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509025243 146741260,146741853,2017-10-26 13:42:34,">>146741674 we should stop creating them",,Anonymous,1509039746133.jpg,0DVqwvEl3gZr10q3fwzEgQ==,AU,,1509025354 146741260,146741879,2017-10-26 13:42:48,">>146741674 plz sage when replying to this thread OP's actually posting so it's not COMPLETE bait but still... vegans >you're not religious are you OP?",,Anonymous,1470483673896.jpg,GbRDR8RlAtz/gST9cJYn0g==,US,,1509025368 146741260,146743455,2017-10-26 14:00:34,">>146741879 why would I be religious?",,Anonymous,1509040795420.png,bn0CsKDgRu6s67Ga/61vQw==,AU,,1509026434 146741260,146744033,2017-10-26 14:06:21,">>146743455 Most vegans I've met are non-religious humanist. We all need something to believe in and center our morals around. Some people make the protection of animals their cross to bear. Thanks for the affirmation",,Anonymous,ahoy.jpg,g3bg0z4RICmkzhZHLdHigw==,US,,1509026781 146741260,146744452,2017-10-26 14:10:33,">>146741260 Vegan for 12 years Thinking about raising Hens now though- cruelty free",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509027033 146741260,146744671,2017-10-26 14:12:47,">>146744033 I simply hold the moral axiom that cruelty must be justified, which in the case of meat industry it most certainly isn't. But it's true that veganism is the most important issue to me, or 'my cross to bear', I think there is no more noble cause",,Anonymous,pigletsbludgeoned.jpg,Z6m8IYvy8jIC7eI2uWid+w==,AU,,1509027167 146741260,146745010,2017-10-26 14:16:34,">>146744452 I don't necessarily have issue with that, provided you ensure the source is ethical, no roosters harmed/culled etc. good effort on the 12yrs btw, took up the cause before it was popular",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509027394 146741260,146745240,2017-10-26 14:18:50,">>146741260 What is that girl's name? You've been posting pictures of that little hottie, I want find more pictures of her. It's fucked up her parents abuse her like that, she's so hot, she deserves better. >>146741853 Species that thrive because they're useful to us shouldn't exist? This is your position? >>146744671 >I simply hold the moral axiom that cruelty must be justified Cruelty can not be done to non persons, you retard. How can you people get so emotional over livestock handling? Livestock are for human use.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509027530 146741260,146745345,2017-10-26 14:20:03,">>146741260 With veganism some of our traditional meals would go away. I appreciate my culture therefore i say no to veganism.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1509027603 146741260,146745471,2017-10-26 14:21:34,">>146741260 >SOYBOY GENERAL fuck off manlet.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509027694 146741260,146745599,2017-10-26 14:23:00,">>146745240 >cruelty can't be done to non humans get help edgelord",,Anonymous,2014-06-04-thelondonfreepress.jpg,wJ3vhgVrwhsM/YeCmmyPaQ==,AU,,1509027780 146741260,146745771,2017-10-26 14:24:45,">>146745240 >Species that thrive because they're useful to us shouldn't exist? This is your position? Fuck me, I hope you're trolling. Do you know what a factory pig farm is? Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,1468430997534.png,AJmRawSnVgFAGJafgapn0Q==,US,,1509027885 146741260,146745891,2017-10-26 14:25:49,">>146741260 Respect your people, your land, your body, and the creatures that serve you. Your ancestors found more value in the working ox than cattle. http://aryanism.net/culture/veganism/",,Anonymous,,,,,1509027949 146741260,146745976,2017-10-26 14:26:43,">>146745599 they're pigs, not humans. I would holocaust 6,000,000 pigs just to feed myself. our ancestors murdered and raped their way across an entire planet. act like it >inb4 you act like we're entering some sort of new moral paradigm. same savagery, different current year.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028003 146741260,146746102,2017-10-26 14:27:53,">>146744671 Does slamming the piglets into the wall make the meat tender because if it does sounds delicious to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028073 146741260,146746152,2017-10-26 14:28:20,">>146745891 >aryan >vegan >posted by a meme flag let me guess you're a pagan too? You guys should really pick up a Bible",,Anonymous,1472949444643.gif,EFsX+ndhmx4CFsI98zSvKA==,US,,1509028100 146741260,146746768,2017-10-26 14:35:05,">>146746152 Actually, there are exceptional religious reasons to be vegetarian. I don't know if I could go 100% vegan, since the Catholic catechism allows for the use of animals by humans, but I would certainly maintain chickens for eggs, goats for milk and bees for honey.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509028505 146741260,146746938,2017-10-26 14:36:45,">>146745976 you're talking about what is, not what ought to be. You're talking descriptively, not normatively. educate yourself on normative ethics and morality before commenting",,Anonymous,1509043003527.jpg,tPr20jGo0NIOp1ofrzoHNQ==,AU,,1509028605 146741260,146746940,2017-10-26 14:36:46,">>146741260 >It has been part of eastern philosophy for centuries Isn't too much soy in their diet responsible for their people being tiny midgets with baby penises? That's not the future I want for my children. I don't want my grandsons and great grandsons and so on to have tiny chink dicks and be emasculated and feminine. And I don't want my granddaughters and great granddaughters to need to fuck niggers because veganism drove all whites to have baby thumb or clit sized dicks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028606 146741260,146747069,2017-10-26 14:38:09,">>146746768 God gave man dominion over animals and gace direct commandments for animal sacrifice. Jesus said nothing about being a broccoli head. Abstaining from meat is only for certain times.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028689 146741260,146747210,2017-10-26 14:39:36,">>146746938 Delicious pork chops or tofu mush Hard choice there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028776 146741260,146747293,2017-10-26 14:40:19,Fuck off you spineless cuck,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028819 146741260,146747393,2017-10-26 14:41:26,">>146741879 I get it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028886 146741260,146747486,2017-10-26 14:42:15,">>146746938 other than maybe child sacrifice, there has been nothing man has collectively rid itself of in a moral sense. Even then I'm sure someone somewhere does it. I'm not going to waste my time being apart of an idea that has zero benefits to myself and my family and that will never catch on and make any noticeable difference in the world. Veganism has been and always will be a weird moral fetish for wealthy westerners to rid themselves of guilt with.",,Anonymous,hunter.jpg,CaRgc3ZW6JUYlDPummc86w==,US,,1509028935 146741260,146747575,2017-10-26 14:43:11,">>146744671 >Outright propaganda Kill yourself, doing that would be a massive waste if time and resources and piglets don't get killed for food they're raised and killed when they're adults",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509028991 146741260,146747648,2017-10-26 14:43:45,">>146741260 If people weren't supposed to be predators and eat meat, we wouldn't have predators' eyes, we wouldn't have predators' teeth, and animals wouldn't taste delicious",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509029025 146741260,146747743,2017-10-26 14:44:34,">>146746152 No such thing as a pagan that doesn't eat meat, it's literally one of the oldest tennants of any white religion that we should consume animals to live as it is what the planet has provided us with",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509029074 146741260,146747800,2017-10-26 14:45:05,">>146741260 nah",,Anonymous,3ce.jpg,phZezuKHC3KHiqtnPXrewg==,US,,1509029105 147109195,147109195,2017-10-29 12:42:39,"A place for discussing all things vegan politics & ethics Meat consumption is ruining the environment. - Pollutes rivers - Forests cleared for livestock - Causes soil degradation - Massive inefficiency - Major contributor to global warming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production Vegan Health https://www.reddit.com/r/veganfitness/wiki/index https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/dieteticorgs http://www.veganhealthandfitnessmag.com/2015/02/where-do-you-get-your-b12/ Animals and Ethics - http://www.iep.utm.edu/anim-eth/#SSH1fi The most common and well known argument is the argument from marginal cases. Loosely speaking, the argument contends that animals as sentient & intelligent as retards should have the same moral status (Meatcucks please read the following before leaving a stupid comment) Ad Hominem - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem e.g. vegans are faggots Strawman - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman e.g. vegans want white genocide Appeal to nature - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature e.g. meat is natural and therefore ethical Tu Quoque - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque e.g. vegans buy computers Morality is relative - Science, logic, mathematics are all based on axioms that are not proven, what is different about morality and moral axioms? Think this argument through before arguing for it, it is not as simple as you think. (most philosophers are moral realists and believe moral propositions can in fact be true) Meatcucks please realise the difference between normative ethics (what we ought to do) and descriptive ethics (what beliefs do people have). Normative ethics is what is being discussed with regards to veganism and morality. e.g. - people should not eat animals for x reason (relevant normative claim) - people eat animals for y reason (irrelevant descriptive claim) Dominion (2018) Trailer - https://youtu.be/LpDJlEQsDoA vegans of 4chan discord .gg/JxtR2t",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,1509295358138.png,6IvzE3ndaoDtXS8d5HD/bQ==,AU,,1509280959 147109195,147109884,2017-10-29 12:50:31,/faggotgeneral/,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509281431 147109195,147110097,2017-10-29 12:53:08,"I felt like shit as a vegan, so I introduced whole fat dairy and eggs and feel better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509281588 147109195,147110406,2017-10-29 12:57:02,"Vegan starter kit - https://veganuary.com/starter-kit/ - Vegan diet healthy for all stages of life https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864 - Vegan B12 in traditional fermented foods & seaweed e.g. tempeh, kimchi etc. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC242746/ - Tempeh https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3062981/ - Traditional Korean fermented foods provide adequate B12 - Loads vegan products fortified with B12 (produced without the use of animals) https://www.godairyfree.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/So-Delicious-Dairy-Free-Cashew-Milk-Nutrition-Facts.jpg - Cashew Milk https://static.openfoodfacts.org/images/products/319/817/200/0120/nutrition_fr.8.full.jpg - Corn Flakes - USDA 40% of US population flirting with B12 deficiency due to modern farming https://www.ars.usda.gov/news-events/news/research-news/2000/b12-deficiency-may-be-more-widespread-than-thought/ - Processed meattrash lowers sperm count https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4180710/ - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 - Casomorphine in milk is addictive https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1374738 - Milk gives you prostate cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754 - Milk gives you acne https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483 - Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 - Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/ - Eggs increase cancer risk even when adjusted for intakes of macronutrients or for other food groups https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8061589",,Anonymous,MeatMakesYouManly.png,wmJXd88d4Oj0CYD2ZEpB7g==,AU,,1509281822 147109195,147112389,2017-10-29 13:18:04,">>147109195 >>147110406",,Anonymous,1472636432134.png,pXdQNyg8hCHBnVvpOjyNhA==,DE,,1509283084 147109195,147112600,2017-10-29 13:20:15,">>147109195 >Pollutes rivers >- Forests cleared for livestock >- Causes soil degradation >- Massive inefficiency >- Major contributor to global warming. Meat isn't doing that. Brown people are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509283215 147109195,147112702,2017-10-29 13:21:16,">>147109195 >most philosophers are moral realists and believe moral propositions can in fact be true Most philosophers are also retarded. Morality is not real.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509283276 147109195,147112949,2017-10-29 13:23:30,">>147112702 lel i'm sure you've given concept due consideration",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509283410 147109195,147113039,2017-10-29 13:24:21,"Vegan 12 years. Never get sick, feel great, healthy as hell and don't even think or worry about what I'm eating. Had my blood tested last year and the Dr said I had some of the healthiest blood he's seen.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,TwbPTPvRkhTljAWXcI6xWw==,US,,1509283461 147109195,147113334,2017-10-29 13:27:34,">>147109195 more like pyfagoras",,Anonymous,,,,,1509283654 147109195,147113507,2017-10-29 13:29:30,">>147112949 I have. There is no general good or bad. It's a delusion and result of over abstraction. People took a word, ""good,"" that has a specific meaning when discussing something relative to some tells, and then they abstracted it away to a general case.in.which the word has no true meaning. For example, a ""good"" hammer is one that is durable, heavy, and strong enough to perform the telos of driving nails. People abstracted this ""good"" and tried to apply it in cases where there is no telos, such as human actions in general. But it is a floating signifier and does not refer to anything real. Just an abstract meaningless word.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509283770 147109195,147113631,2017-10-29 13:31:00,">>147109195 Pretty sure he is referring to black people",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509283860 147109195,147113658,2017-10-29 13:31:22,">>147109195 Hmm, for every animal y'all don't eat, I am going to eat three..... Animals are tasty......chickenz especially so....",,Anonymous,,,,,1509283882 147109195,147113759,2017-10-29 13:32:27,"vegan reportin in I'm white with 130 IQ",,Anonymous,,,,,1509283947 147109195,147113824,2017-10-29 13:32:55,">>147110097 Buy free range eggs, they don't contribute to animal cruelty and are fine",,Anonymous,,,,,1509283975 147109195,147113898,2017-10-29 13:33:48,">>147113334 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1509284028 147109195,147114001,2017-10-29 13:34:50,">>147109195 Vegans are faggots who want white genocide and computers. What they don't know is that meat is natural and therefore ethical.",,Anonymous,1489882501433.jpg,ihdV0D9wO3uQwuj5waRr6A==,US,,1509284090 147109195,147114313,2017-10-29 13:38:13,">>147109195 I wish I didn't want to be a vegan faggot, but I am starting to be convinced that I should.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509284293 147109195,147114396,2017-10-29 13:39:02,">>147109195 I've been a vegan for 15 years, wouldn't recommend it for anyone but the most dedicated autists. Long-term veganism requires careful supplementation of dozens of vitamins, minerals, amino-acids and fatty-acids.",,Anonymous,1506913797297.jpg,g6QbeqxkmYhh/GQb7Gz4nA==,US,,1509284342 147109195,147114533,2017-10-29 13:40:37,">>147109195 >>147114001",,Anonymous,BBQ-header-block.jpg,SdCnglmI4xbZa1d7qAIMRQ==,,,1509284437 147109195,147114631,2017-10-29 13:41:38,not eating them doesn't stop them from being slaughtered.,,Anonymous,,,,,1509284498 147109195,147114775,2017-10-29 13:43:11,"Question: There's been research that proves: 1) Plants communicate with other members of their species; 2) Plants experience and respond to injury; 3) Some species respond to violent thoughts in their immediate proximity. How do you justify sparing animals pain when you are harming another life form that merely cannot speak to you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509284591 147109195,147114805,2017-10-29 13:43:23,,,Anonymous,head meat.jpg,vhoMPRTjSRyaXS9gCcua7A==,,,1509284603 147109195,147114934,2017-10-29 13:44:51,">>147109195 >re*dit links >""Animals and Ethics"" This shit is getting out of hand. Re*ditor subhumans are metastasing way too much.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1509284691 147109195,147115008,2017-10-29 13:45:36,,,Anonymous,steak and tomato.jpg,F7Gb5HArRdGah/pSyoybkw==,,,1509284736 147109195,147115047,2017-10-29 13:46:06,(((They))) don't want you to be vegan. Ignore the hate.,,Anonymous,,,AP,,1509284766 147109195,147115208,2017-10-29 13:47:45,">Become vegan >my shits become better >show my mother vegan videos (about health) >she start to get their green intakes and drink green juices (made with a lot of veggies) >now she doesn't suffer from leg aches. wow, nice. gotta talk all my family to become vegan.",,Anonymous,1506392230278.jpg,CacvPyo3ivDpQdYMGgcZLQ==,CO,,1509284865 147109195,147115248,2017-10-29 13:48:14,">>147114775 There's also research that showcases humans are hervibores.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1509284894 147109195,147115318,2017-10-29 13:49:00,">>147109195 Vegans are useful as if the cattle die out we have a supply of passive two legged animals that we can use for food instead.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509284940 147109195,147115330,2017-10-29 13:49:13,I think I'll make bratwurst for dinner tonight,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509284953 147109195,147115527,2017-10-29 13:51:21,">>147109195 Veganism is for leftist females and homosexuals. If you are a male vegan, you are a faggot. Normal healthy males accept their biological nature as omnivores and don't feel guilty or get spooked into believing some sort of ridiculous karma logic invented by weak people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509285081 147109195,147115575,2017-10-29 13:51:57,">>147115047 oath. you can't be redpilled and a meatcuck",,Anonymous,881414.png,tGsnLPe/At3yzk42Taaa0Q==,AU,,1509285117 147109195,147115691,2017-10-29 13:53:10,">>147115248 Except there's not. You want proof? Go look at your teeth in n the mirror. Your front teeth are designed for ripping meat, not chewing vegetables. Also, our evolution into modern day man would not have been possible without harnessing fire and eating cooked meat. Humans are very clearly omnivores.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509285190 147109195,147115749,2017-10-29 13:53:43,">>147109195 >muh environment If we get rid of all the niggers and muslim shitskins on this planet, we'd have enough resources for high-quality steak for everyone every day and Mother Earth would still suffer less. How come you haven't tought of that solution? Why do you spread propaganda trying to change omnivores into herbivores instead? Why are you so evil? You all need to be locked up in vegan camps without vitamin supplements.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1509285223 147109195,147115866,2017-10-29 13:54:58,">>147115691 lol",,Anonymous,comparative-anatomy-of-frugivore.jpg,6EZfTcFkBXzVXQYBF4c8NQ==,AU,,1509285298 147109195,147116140,2017-10-29 13:57:50,">>147109195 Pythagoras was neuther vegan nor a philosopher.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509285470 147109195,147116241,2017-10-29 13:58:54,">>147113039 Talk to us in 30 years as your nutrition deficiencies start showing up",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509285534 147109195,147116311,2017-10-29 13:59:36,">>147115691 you're an idiot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4NsMiOMmCY&t=2s watch this video. is a short explanation of why are we hervibores. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee25u3YccHk&t=2101s then watch this. Is a long science conference about why are we hervibores (2 hours long).",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1509285576 147109195,147116328,2017-10-29 13:59:49,">>147114775 You kill more plants just to feed the animals than what is needed to feed a society. So you are killing both. Vegans just kill plants",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509285589 147109195,147116529,2017-10-29 14:01:53,">be impressionable beta male >become vegan because a video made you cry >feel healthier the first year because i had to quit McDonalds and Ice Cream >""woah this is a really healthy way to live!"" >soon my body is starved for nutriens >become weak and emotional like a woman >hormones fucked from eating soy >have to take more supplements than an aids patient just to get out of bed >meat industry still thriving despite my efforts >girls would still rather fuck meat eating chads",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509285713 147109195,147116634,2017-10-29 14:03:02,">>147116311 Which one talks about how eating meat had absolutely nothing to do with higher brain function and advanced tool making which lead to a society where faggots tell me to eat soy beans?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509285782 147109195,147116810,2017-10-29 14:04:30,">>147115866 Wow, there's so much valuable information this that it must all be true! See >>147115691 again Faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509285870 147109195,147116892,2017-10-29 14:05:21,">>147116529 >>hormones http://www.health.com/health/article/0,,20458816,00.html",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509285921 147109195,147116929,2017-10-29 14:05:42,">>147116529 lel /pol/ autists triggered by altruism",,Anonymous,Meatcuck_vs_Vegan.png,UJp9x/kT9lGhgqLAhY48kQ==,AU,,1509285942 147109195,147117023,2017-10-29 14:06:41,">>147109195 What do vegans think of cultured meat? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509286001 147109195,147117064,2017-10-29 14:07:08,">>147109195 >If you and humanity don't do X it will continue to do Y >Reason? Fuck you",,Anonymous,,,,,1509286028 147109195,147117094,2017-10-29 14:07:24,>>147116529,,Anonymous,dont eat soy.png,cc1srtdbCQpZQdFX4ZYhdg==,US,,1509286044 147109195,147117153,2017-10-29 14:08:03,">>147117023 hope it happens soon and puts an end to animal abuse",,Anonymous,1509300481924.jpg,W5sVs52X/5QClqxnqD87Ig==,AU,,1509286083 147109195,147117484,2017-10-29 14:11:42,">>147114533 No shit, faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509286302 147109195,147117555,2017-10-29 14:12:23,">>147116140 he also believed beans were the devil or some whacky shit. Google it",,Anonymous,1470484345570.jpg,ejvpyiHztOoMC7hGqlggBw==,US,,1509286343 147109195,147117741,2017-10-29 14:14:08,">>147110097 >dairy Breathes in AHAHAHAHHAhA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509286448 147109195,147117819,2017-10-29 14:14:59,">>147116634 that's disproven as myth. we evolved thanks to cooking carbs, not meat. retard. carbs (energy) are what allows big brains, not eating protein. so kys dumbfaggot.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1509286499 147109195,147117900,2017-10-29 14:15:55,What's your favorite way to collect pics of dead humans?,,Anonymous,veganposters.png,E+bGJAngrv/x0yxBOJhFDA==,US,,1509286555 147109195,147118228,2017-10-29 14:19:16,">>147117900 >finns",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509286756 147109195,147118808,2017-10-29 14:25:00,">>147116328 >You kill more plants just to feed the animals than what is needed to feed a society. So you are killing both. Vegans just kill plants Am I reading you correctly that you mean killing all niggers will save society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1509287100 147109195,147118977,2017-10-29 14:26:45,"veganism or rather paleo diet is actually a redpill. paleo with 10-20% meat is preferred",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509287205 147109195,147119175,2017-10-29 14:28:56,Why are vegans not as anal about plastic packaging as they are about animal cruelty? Plastic pollution is the true problem the world has to tackle.,,Anonymous,plasticfruits.jpg,Zsr/GtMLRxG6rM2u1fFU7A==,GB,,1509287336 147109195,147119315,2017-10-29 14:30:18,">>147117900 >raping women or kids: VERY BAD >someone has pretend/consensual rape fantasy in his hard drive: literally nothing The erotica guy being into masochist shit is messed up in my opinion, but not as fucked up as not caring about animals feeling pain",,Anonymous,,,,,1509287418 147109195,147119509,2017-10-29 14:32:15,">>147109195 >Meatcucks please realise the difference between normative ethics (what we ought to do) and descriptive ethics (what beliefs do people have). Normative ethics is what is being discussed with regards to veganism and morality. what do you think of freegans/scavengetarians etc? is it ok to scrounge the stuff that is to be thrown away- perhaps even stuff your family/friends are not eating, or get things right before being thrown out at a shop, but way under price, so as not to support it- as without other people buying meat in the first place, such products wouldnt exist- but for now they do",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509287535 147109195,147119543,2017-10-29 14:32:37,">>147109195 why do you wish to antagonize me? I hid from you on /fit/ yet you come here to spreach your garbage? have at you then. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/animals-and-us/201412/84-vegetarians-and-vegans-return-meat-why https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRVrtqy-3NA",,Anonymous,VEG_RECIDIVISM_7_EDIT2.jpg,PhbuDGu41bZ8QaKJ5Ypzpg==,,,1509287557 147109195,147119617,2017-10-29 14:33:38,">>147118977 60% from animal products is preferred https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCQmfRMwHfA",,Anonymous,hdthing.jpg,+6ZiPJQW2zLeg/YFkpilZg==,,,1509287618 147109195,147119723,2017-10-29 14:34:48,">>147109195 Not political >>>/trash/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509287688 147109195,147119790,2017-10-29 14:35:28,>>147115866,,Anonymous,1500026089309.png,PrqrxAWHjIIEZoJ69OmDLA==,,,1509287728 147109195,147119859,2017-10-29 14:36:07,">>147109195 >Who cares about Pythagoras? I base my decisions on a jewish book and retarded bloggers that lecture people about nutrition when they don't know the first thing about it. Meatcucks are a sad joke.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509287767 147109195,147119881,2017-10-29 14:36:18,">>147114396 Just be a normal vegetarian and eat eggs and milk dude. I had chickens and they just lay the eggs every day regardless of whether you eat them or not, no suffering involved if that is your issue. Might as well eat them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509287778 147109195,147121011,2017-10-29 14:48:06,">>147113507 >nothing is real and everything is an illusion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509288486 147109195,147121338,2017-10-29 14:50:59,">>147119790 Don't even bother, half of that stupid infographic is just straight up wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509288659 147109195,147122655,2017-10-29 15:03:08,">>147121011 Not what I said. Morality isn't real. There is no cosmic ""good"" and ""evil"" or right or wrong. Believing it is literally a form of magical thinking and mental illness. You can even go back to ancient Greek sources and watch as the words for ""good"" morph in the way I described. In Homer, the word ἀγαθός is used to mean the characteristics of a good ruler. It was tied to a specific role and telos of that role, like my example for the hammer. To be a good ruler meant to be cunning and courageous and maintain order and kill enemies and steal their stuff. That was the definition of ""good"" for the ruler, stealing from outsiders and killing people for your tribe or city. Later it becomes abstracted away from this specific role and the word ἀγαθός is used in a general sense for an imaginary ""good in itself."" This is described in ""short history of ethics"" by Alasdair MacIntyre",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509289388 147109195,147122850,2017-10-29 15:05:03,">>147113824 But I love animal cruelty",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509289503 147109195,147122873,2017-10-29 15:05:15,>>147109195,,Anonymous,160D903C-EA0B-40C3-AA7A-C729F31609E2.png,uWMPlJZ7/1fRXcsoc/MaGQ==,US,,1509289515 147109195,147123451,2017-10-29 15:11:01,">>147122655 i know it's not what you said, but it's the only justifiable logic behind your mode of thinking >There is no cosmic good and evil >Let me prove this by telling you about a bunch of different individual, mortal, subjective interpretations of good and evil >See how they're not consistent? Checkmate, moralistcucks the only way this works is if you can say everything else is imaginary too. otherwise you'd just be a brainlet pseudo-intellectual.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509289861 147109195,147123920,2017-10-29 15:15:29,">>147122655 everything is derived from our own subjective experience. You can't get around this in the case of science, you can't get around it in the case of morality. It's ridiculous to expect morality to do the impossible and be self justifying when you do not expect it for any other school of thought or philosophy.",,Anonymous,1509304523349.jpg,72bFQRLD+BxUCj9w8dmH1A==,AU,,1509290129 147109195,147125762,2017-10-29 15:32:55,">>147117741 >muh lowfat soy milk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509291175 147109195,147125883,2017-10-29 15:34:02,">>147119175 plastic also turns you gay, dont fall for the plastic jew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509291242 147109195,147126153,2017-10-29 15:36:49,">>147109195 As an anarcho primitivist. Fuck you technicians. Sure it makes sense in your weak vision of the world but in the long run you'll ruin what it means to be human. I'll eat meat as long as I live and would eat you if our plane was to crash just to prove my point. Fuck Socrates, Pythagoras and the other antiquity faggots along with their virtues.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509291409 147109195,147126283,2017-10-29 15:37:59,">>147123920 When my bitch eats more meat than I do and hate vegans too.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509291479 147109195,147126602,2017-10-29 15:40:53,">>147118977 nah, paleo is a meme look up weston price",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509291653 147109195,147126849,2017-10-29 15:43:12,">>147109195 Will vegans be forming their own black blocs for November 4th?",,Anonymous,BE1E2B45-5918-4828-A544-7DE337682660.jpg,fw4RtviWr1951NeUVxLq7g==,IS,,1509291792 147109195,147126918,2017-10-29 15:43:47,You retards know kimchi isn’t vegan right?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509291827 147109195,147128608,2017-10-29 15:58:52,">>147115248 Incorrect. The terms herbivore, omnivore and carnivore describe behaviours and not biological predispositions.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509292732 147109195,147129307,2017-10-29 16:05:26,">>147123451 >the only way this works is if you can say everything else is imaginary too. No it isn't.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509293126 147109195,147129937,2017-10-29 16:10:29,VEGANISM IS FOR KIKES https://youtu.be/qZEubKpGwbc,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1509293429 147109195,147130285,2017-10-29 16:13:26,">>147129307 Mhm, and that'd mean you have zero basis for saying morality's imaginary, aside from ""Because I say so!"" - which would make you a brainlet i gave you benefit of the doubt, tbf",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509293606 147109195,147132729,2017-10-29 16:35:27,">>147130285 Morality is imaginary. It's something that humans invented with our brains. That being said, like math, it being imaginary doesn't give you an excuse to outright ignore it or assume that it doesn't need to make sense.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1509294927 147109195,147133269,2017-10-29 16:40:24,">>147132729 see>>147121011 and>>147123451 if it's imaginary then you don't need an excuse to ignore it, since it doesn't exist in the first place",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509295224 147109195,147133300,2017-10-29 16:40:45,">>147132729 >Morality is imaginary >math, it being imaginary THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF LEAFPOSTING I GUESS THE PHOTONS AND SOFTWARE YOU LITERALLY WRITE THOSE WORDS THROUGH ARE JUST IMAGINARY HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAA",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509295245 147109195,147134061,2017-10-29 16:48:14,I'm not vegan or vegetarian but I'm not a meat addict. Why do people who consume meat at like crack heads about it? Is there something in meat that causes the weak minded to be that militant about muh meats?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509295694 147109195,147134943,2017-10-29 16:56:26,">>147109195 meat eating veganism = 1000% ideal",,Anonymous,29xgbfx1sjlz.jpg,QHaUJy3Ne34tqt+1VcwkYg==,FI,,1509296186 147109195,147134961,2017-10-29 16:56:38,">>147134061 people can't face the reality, or even acknowledge the possibility, that they may have acted immorally or held incorrect beliefs",,Anonymous,1509310595663.jpg,9+WymdC2pRIN/aWDxYhReQ==,AU,,1509296198 147109195,147135044,2017-10-29 16:57:27,"Pacifist Ethics are degenerative and are fundamentally against Life itself. At its lowest levels life is etched with the will to survive, to fight and strive against other lifeforms, to compete for limited resources. Even plants grow taller and spread wider to gain sunlight over their peers, and take their nutrients from the soil which has been seasoned with the blood of dead animals. Even in the vegetable kingdom, all life depends on this struggle. In the animal kingdom, living things devour each other. Even many herbivores are opportunistic carnivores, and every class of lifeform has designated to it species to serve as beasts of prey, birds of prey, insects of prey. Social behavior does not negate this struggle, it merely gives it another level. It turns a war of all against all into a war with factions, jealously loyal to their interior, and alternatively friendly, neutral, or hostile to those outside them. The point of Morality is not to negate the strife and conflict that is the basis of Life, but to turn the great war into the Great Contest, so that its glory may outshine its horror. Any morality based on ignoring the basics of biology is neither true nor useful.",,Anonymous,gvmon8d.jpg,gu0ySpSV9N0SigWHSawUrg==,US,,1509296247 147109195,147135357,2017-10-29 17:00:27,">>147109195 steak tastes good. vegans btfo",,Anonymous,kekcrusade.jpg,uXhsnWy9mOXuY37CqmYeOQ==,US,,1509296427 147109195,147135402,2017-10-29 17:00:45,">>147109195 honestly, >>>/ck/ >>>/ck/ this has nothing to do with politics and is much better served in the sjw-infested hellhole that is /ck/ just go there, it'll serve your purpose much better.unless, of course, your purpose isn't to ""discuss"" vegan politics, but, rather to try and subtly insert your bullshit sjw leftshit lifestyle into this board...that isn't your purpose, is it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509296445 147109195,147135609,2017-10-29 17:02:31,">>147135044 is this supposed to be intelligent? literally one large, vapid, platitude",,Anonymous,1509310948354.jpg,+ArgWuNW0FWHHJrnj6EYKw==,AU,,1509296551 147109195,147135808,2017-10-29 17:04:22,">>147135402 veganism is as redpilled as an ideology can be",,Anonymous,2014-06-04-thelondonfreepress.jpg,wJ3vhgVrwhsM/YeCmmyPaQ==,AU,,1509296662 147109195,147135829,2017-10-29 17:04:31,">>147112702 >>147109195 Statistically philosophers are way less moral than general population. I forgot the name of that effect, but I think it has something to do with being a nihilistic faggot.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1509296671 147109195,147135915,2017-10-29 17:05:15,">>147135609 >ideological vegan preaching about platitudes LOL",,Anonymous,wga.jpg,m7XUYdnJD3XcbWQxsVDVvg==,FI,,1509296715 147109195,147135948,2017-10-29 17:05:37,I hate vegans so much. I put literal human shit in their food at work.,,Anonymous,,,,,1509296737 147109195,147135993,2017-10-29 17:06:02,">>147135829 literally incompatible with reality. Most philosophers are moral realists (not nihilists)",,Anonymous,1509311159708.jpg,5xp0CYkFfJE37+mY8uBobg==,AU,,1509296762 147109195,147136000,2017-10-29 17:06:05,">>147135609 In the OP you said all moral systems are based on axioms. This is true. Why should I accept a moral system based on unconditional universal compassion, when a morality based on selective reciprocity and accepting the truths of biology is both nobler and safer? My objection to veganism isn't just that you're ignoring reality, its that your philosophy is effeminate, it turns the entire world into one big nursery. Every argument where a vegan is told that Nature is against his philosophy ends with the vegan saying that our moral reasoning lets us rise above Nature. My objection is that you're not going above Nature, you're dragging us below it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509296765 147109195,147136143,2017-10-29 17:07:33,">>147135993 You're right. And I'm a moral realist calling you immoral. Being weak, effeminate, and pacifist is morally wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509296853 147109195,147136225,2017-10-29 17:08:19,"does anyone seem to notice how viciously meat eaters defend themselves? Yes most vegans are complete faggots, but I find it crazy how those that eat dead flesh seem to immediately go off the deep end with their ideology that what they are doing is ok.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509296899 147109195,147136453,2017-10-29 17:10:09,">>147136000 you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509297009 147109195,147136455,2017-10-29 17:10:11,">>147136225 Being vegan is a good litmus test for other degenerate behaviors. Its like if a man tells you he likes to wear frilly dresses. While its true he could have a legitimate excuse, like he's a bit in a British comedy and is otherwise entirely masculine, its very unlikely. Its far more reasonable to simply assume he's a faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509297011 147109195,147136552,2017-10-29 17:11:06,">>147136453 If you have an argument against what I've said I would love to hear it. If you're going to be a moral realist and say that its morally wrong to eat meat, you have to be prepared to counter other moral realists saying its immoral to NOT eat meat. Defend your philosophy or gtfo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509297066 147109195,147136845,2017-10-29 17:13:40,">>147136000 'truths of biology' can never lead you to a moral conclusion, you cannot derive an ought from an is. You cannot draw a normative conclusion (a moral statement) from a descriptive premise (biology) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is%E2%80%93ought_problem stop trying to seem smart, you just sound like a retard",,Anonymous,1509311618063.jpg,zIXnN2S9H7gYQZ5zQbO+9A==,AU,,1509297220 147109195,147136881,2017-10-29 17:14:02,">>147136455 Nice association fallacy, there are plenty of vegans that could probably stomp you in the ground.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509297242 147109195,147137213,2017-10-29 17:16:40,">>147136845 Exactly, and the IS-OUGHT problem completely disproves your philosophy. The very post you linked has me saying just that. If all moral philosophies are based on axioms that are not proven, but rather asserted, then all moral philosophies are equally valid when judged by their own metric. What am I asking is if this is the case, and your version of ""moral realism"" is complete nonsense, why should I accept a moral philosophy that demands I become an effeminate and a pacifist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509297400 147109195,147137231,2017-10-29 17:16:52,"Only liberal snowflakes care about animal wel- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93_ttVOe-Dc",,Anonymous,animals.jpg,M5m4VaQZj1EdXi5Hd5Ms9g==,,,1509297412 147109195,147137256,2017-10-29 17:17:08,">>147136881 I'm sure there's plenty of homosexuals who could do the same, that doesn't make them cease being faggots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509297428 147109195,147137472,2017-10-29 17:19:01,>Hitler didn't want to eat this,,Anonymous,hitler-with-roe-deer.jpg,wLgmLszdrcFywXJnjTIjrg==,US,,1509297541 147109195,147137505,2017-10-29 17:19:22,">>147109195 This quote does not mean what you think it means you flaming fucking faggot.",,Anonymous,sage.jpg,ISiMpy049X84ZAQEJ+Z0XA==,US,,1509297562 147109195,147138131,2017-10-29 17:24:41,">>147109195 >Some dude that did maths 2000 years ago thinks he can tell me not to eat animals fucking vegans",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1509297881 147109195,147139300,2017-10-29 17:34:24,">>147115318 the free market solved itself again",,Anonymous,,,,,1509298464 147109195,147140579,2017-10-29 17:45:11,">>147135993 These are real statistics, dude. I didn't pull them out of my ass. The reason why they're less moral - I might have. But anyway, I'm just saying that the way philosophers live, shouldn't be a moral compass for anyone. Quite the opposite.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1509299111 147109195,147142136,2017-10-29 17:58:30,">>147117819 >not eating protein protein provides the same amout of energy than carbs kiddo.",,Anonymous,1509313748102.png,uDfo3hrhm+WPSsD40tPBuw==,,,1509299910 147457354,147457354,2017-11-01 03:27:48,"A place for discussing all things vegan ethics, politics & health Meat consumption is ruining the environment. - Pollutes rivers - Forests cleared for livestock - Causes soil degradation - Massive inefficiency - Major contributor to global warming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production Vegan Health https://www.reddit.com/r/veganfitness/wiki/index https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/dieteticorgs http://www.veganhealthandfitnessmag.com/2015/02/where-do-you-get-your-b12/ Animals ethics crash course - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-BX-jN_Ac The most common and well known argument is the argument from marginal cases. Loosely speaking, the argument contends that animals as sentient & intelligent as retards should have the same moral status formal argument - http://www.iep.utm.edu/anim-eth/#SSH1fi (Meatcucks please read the following before leaving a stupid comment) Ad Hominem - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem e.g. vegans are faggots Strawman - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman e.g. vegans want white genocide Appeal to nature - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature e.g. meat is natural and therefore ethical Tu Quoque - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque e.g. vegans buy computers Morality is relative - Science, logic, mathematics are all based on axioms that are not proven, what is different about morality and moral axioms? Think this argument through before arguing for it, it is not as simple as you think. (most philosophers are moral realists and believe moral propositions can in fact be true) Meatcucks please realise the difference between normative ethics (what we ought to do) and descriptive ethics (what beliefs do people have). Normative ethics is what is being discussed with regards to veganism and morality. e.g. - people should not eat animals for x reason (relevant normative claim) - people eat animals for y reason (irrelevant descriptive claim)",VEGAN GENERAL - Moral Purity Edition,Anonymous,Meatcuck_vs_Vegan.png,zbJsFHdQtZ6DXIKIiq70cg==,AU,,1509506868 147457354,147457433,2017-11-01 03:29:03,">>147457354 Hitler would genocide your stupid animals, stupid nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509506943 147457354,147457578,2017-11-01 03:31:37,">>147457433 cool tale friend",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509507097 147457354,147457666,2017-11-01 03:33:01,">>147457433 Wrong. Hitler was not a degenerate meatcuck",,Anonymous,1509521579204.jpg,vSlFOpfePAedgD5gnaL1qg==,AU,,1509507181 147457354,147457726,2017-11-01 03:33:54,">>147457666 >666",,Anonymous,1505134193524.jpg,++dlXJvK2biWxOMqlCmHuA==,US,,1509507234 147457354,147457872,2017-11-01 03:36:03,">>147457354 Want to be a vegan? Sure, go ahead. Just go live in a forest and chew moss and twigs until you die. Everywhere around you are animal products, you think the keyboard and mouse that were made in China, that you used to make this gay ass post doesn't contribute to slaughtering of animals? Think again, faggot.",,Anonymous,full_1288024467nosuchthingasavegan.png,3TFpK5/Qjn5+zG68iKETag==,LV,,1509507363 147457354,147457942,2017-11-01 03:37:02,">>147457354 >vegan Why do you shit up our board? >>>/fit/ >>>/ck/ >>>/lgbt/ >>>/trash/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509507422 147457354,147457996,2017-11-01 03:37:50,">>147457872 https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque educate yourself and try again",,Anonymous,1505575201586.png,Zgt8zT+A0YkEHZL70fE3eQ==,AU,,1509507470 147457354,147458028,2017-11-01 03:38:17,">>147457942 get real, like this board isn't full of fucking trash anyway. It could use some fresh conversation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509507497 147457354,147458229,2017-11-01 03:41:07,">>147457354 lol, manlets",,Anonymous,,,,,1509507667 147457354,147458582,2017-11-01 03:46:57,">>147457354 The guy the left and the guy second from left, that ain't vegan gains, that's 1.5cc's of test prop + 40mg's clenbuterol 3 x a week.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1509508017 147457354,147458665,2017-11-01 03:48:18,">>147458582 >kiwi manlet pointing fingers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509508098 147457354,147458711,2017-11-01 03:49:01,">>147457996 Except 99% of the planet won't change thousands of years of advancements just so you could feel better about yourself and try to substitute your bland and boring personality by calling yourself a vegan. Again, China manufactures pretty much everything and they waste almost nothing, go and try to tell them that you want to stop using animal by-products because you're insecure.",,Anonymous,Factory-2.jpg,7Wbv/2y40/zHzAe+F2K0ZQ==,LV,,1509508141 147457354,147458791,2017-11-01 03:50:38,">>147458711 >China to see a rise from 6% in 2013 to 17% vegan diets in 2018 k",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509508238 147457354,147458795,2017-11-01 03:50:40,">>147458711 I don't give a fuck about cows or chickens as long as I get my 200 grams of protein per day.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1509508240 147457354,147458853,2017-11-01 03:51:44,">>147458795 There are denser protein sources than chicken. They also just so happen to be 1/5th the price, as chicken is costly to produce, even with government subsidy.",,Anonymous,edamame.png,GPXqiAbIDXBOoTrNV9bjkA==,US,,1509508304 147457354,147458893,2017-11-01 03:52:11,">>147458791 [citation needed]",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1509508331 147457354,147458905,2017-11-01 03:52:27,">>147458853 I like eating chicken...I like eating eggs.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1509508347 147457354,147458983,2017-11-01 03:53:38,">>147458711 >Chinese are all vegan lel how the fuck do you think this is an argument",,Anonymous,1509522815211.jpg,bhl0J4lYTsg5wiDs1+oPwg==,AU,,1509508418 147457354,147459037,2017-11-01 03:54:25,">>147458983 arent",,Anonymous,1509522861320.jpg,9PsqQQKWnrzWcbzRj1OhjQ==,AU,,1509508465 147457354,147459277,2017-11-01 03:59:04,">>147458983 My argument is that no matter how hard you try you will still be contributing to slaughtering animals, you're doing it right now and unless you go live in the wild and die because you're most likely ill equipped to survive alone without using the contributions of the society around you. Stop pretending you don't understand what I'm talking about, you argue like a kike.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1509508744 147457354,147459359,2017-11-01 04:00:27,">>147458905 Placing sensual gratification above moral issues is the epitome of degeneracy.",,Anonymous,malnourished vegan4.png,UROYGuSYKP1Uinw12PHrBA==,,,1509508827 147457354,147459503,2017-11-01 04:03:10,">>147459277 That's just a pathetic appeal to futility. Why prevent murders when you can't stop all murders? Why prevent rape when you cant stop all rape? extremely retarded argument",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509508990 147457354,147459531,2017-11-01 04:03:39,">>147459359 You're a fucking dickhead mate, Patrick Baboumian only became a vegan after a lifetime of eating meat.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509509019 147457354,147459611,2017-11-01 04:04:55,">>147459359 So fucking what? I bet you have weird shit in your closet, mr purity spiral.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1509509095 147457354,147459646,2017-11-01 04:05:33,">>147459531 And eating fists full of D-bol.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1509509133 147457354,147459657,2017-11-01 04:05:48,The trusty is that most men aren't faggots and don't want to lower their testosterone levels to female tier. Real men will be hunting deer this next weekend and bringing home very lean venison to cook for his kids.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509509148 147457354,147459683,2017-11-01 04:06:11,">>147457354 soyboy cuck detected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509509171 147457354,147459700,2017-11-01 04:06:22,">>147459503 >murders >rape We're talking about natural survival of the fittest, do you think we would be where we are now if we wouldn't eat meat and use animal products in our daily lives?",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1509509182 147457354,147459735,2017-11-01 04:06:55,">>147457354 Steroids are not vegan.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1509509215 147457354,147459763,2017-11-01 04:07:28,">>147459657 lel hunting is the pinnacle of autism",,Anonymous,1509523646333.jpg,EHXL2RSE1YuvGR9Dn0p9XA==,AU,,1509509248 147457354,147459770,2017-11-01 04:07:32,">>147458711 >>147459277 >>147459700 kek is on my side",,Anonymous,1509183530324.gif,hH7tJQO/VE+Ze5enalc83g==,LV,,1509509252 147457354,147459782,2017-11-01 04:07:41,">>147457354 Protein supplements are not vegan.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1509509261 147457354,147459837,2017-11-01 04:08:34,">>147459700 appeal to nature read OP, educate yourself, and try again",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509509314 147457354,147459854,2017-11-01 04:08:48,">>147457354 Every time I see a vegan, I eat only meat for a week, to make up for it. MMMM, another pure meat week! TY!",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1509509328 147457354,147459892,2017-11-01 04:09:28,">>147459763 Lol, I pay 30$ for a permit. And what do I get out of it? 100 lbs of lean meat. I'll take the autism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509509368 147457354,147459894,2017-11-01 04:09:32,">>147459782 are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509509372 147457354,147460001,2017-11-01 04:11:06,Vegans will devolve to a more primitive early human if they force their children to become vegans and this cycle continues. Humans are able to derived nutrition from meats and plants among other things because of our variety in our diet. Choosing to void out a whole food group will have dangerous effects in the long run centuries later when those vegan great grandkids can no longer digest meat based product and can only eat plant base. My guess is overall taller and skinny people that will need to eat more often and less per meal everyday since their ability to store and product fat will be lower. Amino acid based food in protein will cause mineral/vitiamin deficiencies but they will have supplements for that. Oh and blood clotting issues for sure.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1509509466 147457354,147460007,2017-11-01 04:11:12,">>147457354 Veganism is a massive blue pill. The only possible way to be a healthy vegan is to use insane amounts of supplements and dedicate your life to preparing healthy meals every day. It's the complete opposite of natural living. Take this shit back to plebbit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509509472 147457354,147460229,2017-11-01 04:15:18,">>147460001 wut? do you think health is passed down in each generation like genetics? seriously need to educate yourself bro",,Anonymous,tofu_fit_guy-20171001-0002.jpg,+ArgWuNW0FWHHJrnj6EYKw==,AU,,1509509718 147457354,147460247,2017-11-01 04:15:35,">>147457354 >/fit/ subhumans >sausage fest >half of them niggers >waste their time on their own physical appearance, like a bunch of women >don't even eat mean, LMAO, fuckin numales >/pol/ ubermensch >babes galore >pure aryan >spend their time partying and fucking bitches, not giving a fuck about their appearance, like MEN are supposed to >eat meat like their hunter warrior ancestors",,Anonymous,annie-leibovitz-sopranos .jpg,0TAR199jI+gsacmFGJRdpg==,MK,,1509509735 147457354,147460332,2017-11-01 04:17:05,">>147459837 >expecting me to read all that shit I have proof and results on my side, you have literally nothing that proves becoming vegans we could sustain life and keep it at the comfort level we enjoy right now.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1509509825 147457354,147460408,2017-11-01 04:18:16,">>147460332 you have nothing but poor reading skills and fallacious arguments",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509509896 147457354,147460554,2017-11-01 04:20:52,">>147460408 It's time to pack your bags",,Anonymous,Untitled.png,l+vheDgT/yusq93OMZr1jA==,LV,,1509510052 147457354,147460976,2017-11-01 04:28:25,">>147460554 >doesn't read OP >claims no evidence has been provided",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509510505 147457354,147461243,2017-11-01 04:33:03,">>147460976 There is nothing to read, it's just the negatives of meat production, how to substitute meat and then it's mostly yourself trying to pre-defend yourself so you wouldn't have to engage in honest conversation. Present me with some proper ideas of how we would turn around whole industries and manufacturing so we could be vegan and still sustain the life and keep the advancements we have made throughout history.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1509510783 147457354,147461517,2017-11-01 04:37:21,">>147461243 what are you even trying to say? society and industry will regress if people go vegan? energy production will stop? your whole argument hinges on the ridiculous notion that industries are dependent on meat production",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509511041 147457354,147461866,2017-11-01 04:44:01,">>147461517 >society and industry will regress if people go vegan? There is nothing ridiculous about it, just think about it how many things rely on animal products, not just meat. Just think about it how far back we would be if we never invented soap because someone like you said that you shouldn't kill animals.",,Anonymous,12377456434345.gif,pE5nB6HMW4Q3RogOItJtMw==,LV,,1509511441 147457354,147461993,2017-11-01 04:46:07,">left >just want to fuck around and larp as nazis >3 females >right >their whole life revolves around appealing to women >0 females That paints the picture more than anything.",,Anonymous,1435763173574.jpg,BkVSFyFZAHCKKvmPa8QTeA==,,,1509511567 147457354,147462091,2017-11-01 04:47:56,">>147461866 No one uses animal fat in soap anymore. No one uses leather for hiking boots anymore (they use gore-tex) etc. Animal products have been superseded there's no unique irreplaceable quality to them",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509511676 147457354,147462339,2017-11-01 04:51:41,">left - people that don't lift >right - people that lift and use steroids you fucked it up",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1509511901 147457354,147462371,2017-11-01 04:52:16,">>147462091 That's not the point, we have made advancements in the past because of killing animals and we continue to do so, there is efen biofuel that uses animal fats, it would be nonsense to stop. Why do you believe that because of your high morality the rest of the society has to suffer? Want to pretend to be a vegan, do it, just stop going around announcing it all the time because it makes you look really insecure and shallow.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1509511936 147457354,147462583,2017-11-01 04:55:42,">>147462371 The rest of society is already suffering because you eat meat, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509512142 147457354,147462861,2017-11-01 05:00:22,">>147460001 >Choosing to void out a whole food group will have dangerous effects in the long run centuries later when those vegan great grandkids can no longer digest meat based product and can only eat plant base. I don't think you understand how slowly natural selection works without extreme pressure. you can literally feed dogs all vegetables and they will subsist, if not thrive, for several years on them. I'm talking any domestic breed. you know how long ago the ability to live off vege scraps was a factor in their evolution? thousands of years. >My guess is overall taller and skinny people that will need to eat more often and less per meal everyday since their ability to store and product fat will be lower. wat? >Amino acid based food in protein will cause mineral/vitiamin deficiencies such as? b12 is the only thing vegan must supplement. >>147460007 >The only possible way to be a healthy vegan is to use insane amounts of supplements 3x b12 pill a week, or just drink it in plant milk and not worry about it fuck that's insane >The only possible way to be a healthy vegan is to dedicate your life to preparing healthy meals every day >dedicate your life lol. any diets requires preparation of healthy meals my dude. it's no different. >>147461866 >There is nothing ridiculous about it, just think about it how many things rely on animal products, not just meat. see the thing about capitalism is that you minimize costs to maximize profits. oh, millions of cows and horses are slaughtered every month? nobody wants to eat their hooves? oh shit, lets turn them into wallpaper glue. animal products are utilized because they're abundant and cheap. >Just think about it how far back we would be if we never invented soap because someone like you said that you shouldn't kill animals. literally on par with edgy atheists who dream about a world where religion didn't exist. imagine the progress xDxD get a grip",,Anonymous,659b1f311b7e6d132480beb565e3ef0e.jpg,en0yIvs72xd3uSjA8ZuuMg==,NZ,,1509512422 147457354,147462942,2017-11-01 05:01:55,">>147462583 There is an environmental impact on all types of food production, including organic vegan bullshit that you eat. This is simply an issue of population size.",,Anonymous,,,,,1509512515 147457354,147462954,2017-11-01 05:02:07,">>147462371 > That's not the point, we have made advancements in the past because of killing animals and we continue to do so, there is efen biofuel that uses animal fats, it would be nonsense to stop. >it would be nonsense to make efforts to preserve natural resources for future generations the degenerate state of nu-pol",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1509512527 147457354,147462975,2017-11-01 05:02:34,">>147462371 whey used to we a waste product of cheese making , it was literally trashed , recently the dairy industry found out that they could sell it to gullible retard who believe they need kidney blasting amount of protein , do you think that we would keep on producing whey if people stopped eating cheese ? offcourse not , it's a BYPRODUCT of cheese making , we would turn to better & more eco friendly one like hemp , rice & pea protein ( which ARE complete protein ) . IF we stopped eating meat do you fucking think we would still bother killing pigs to use their bone for bone char & skin for gelatin ? Offcourse no , they are fucking BYPRODUCT of meat making , 90% of the money is made from the meat , if you remove the MEAT it become a very unprofitable business and other more efficient & eco friendly variant take the lead .",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509512554 147457354,147463309,2017-11-01 05:08:52,">>147462954 What about advancements in medicine through animal research. Get your head out of your ass, the world isn't a beautiful place, violence and pain is necessary for advancement and you can argue all you want but I'm pretty sure neither I nor you would be alive today if it weren't for killing animals.",,Anonymous,1509252969799.jpg,2NIHtyJFnxlbT8WELq+haA==,LV,,1509512932 147457354,147463454,2017-11-01 05:11:36,">>147463309 I'm vegan and animal testing for medicinal purpose is ok in my book , it's the only thing we can't make more efficient & more earth friendly in an animal-free way .",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1509513096 147457354,147463471,2017-11-01 05:11:59,">>147463309 watching your goalposts shrink lmaoing @ur life being anti jew isnt enough to save the west. we have to change the way we produce and consume to safeguard good lives for our grandkids, and their grandkids after them. violence and pain is necessary, sure, but how much? let's not even talk about animals. it's going to hurt when our fields are too barren to grow crops and our rivers too filthy to swim in.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1509513119 147457354,147463669,2017-11-01 05:15:44,">>147463309 animal testing and animal agriculture are separate issues all you're saying is that cruelty exists so it doesn't matter how cruel we are genuinely asinine",,Anonymous,1509527741179.jpg,AK2Vw/rcwTccTslFgRbG1Q==,AU,,1509513344 147457354,147466408,2017-11-01 06:05:54,">>147460247 pure aryan? half the meetup is nonwhite",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1509516354 147457354,147466484,2017-11-01 06:07:09,">>147457354 >blacks >ever",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509516429 147457354,147466969,2017-11-01 06:16:05,">>147463669 The trouble is our industrialized society separates us from actually cultivating our own food sources. We don't care because we aren't a part of the process. If people grew their own food/butchered their own meat it would be a lot more humane and the quality of meat would increase, thus nutrition would increase.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1509516965 147457354,147467342,2017-11-01 06:22:53,>the left image is the only one with women around,,Anonymous,1506594552457.jpg,fVeBaaO7l7Ytb8SCvZAYew==,US,,1509517373 147457354,147467499,2017-11-01 06:26:07,">>147466969 red meat is fundamentally carcinogenic, regardless of how it's produced. Heme iron in red meat gives you esophageal and stomach cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848 Meat gives you colorectal cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4698595/ Results like this have been replicated over and over",,Anonymous,1509531964095.jpg,h5J/mXHJMFS+zA+jMsFwTw==,AU,,1509517567 147457354,147468686,2017-11-01 06:47:21,">>147460247 >muh ancestors",,Anonymous,heart_disease.jpg,eTJ9o7sNZgUmqyqzhowN9w==,,,1509518841 149073580,149073580,2017-11-12 01:22:05,"A place for discussing all things vegan ethics, politics & health Meat consumption is ruining the environment. - Pollutes rivers - Forests cleared for livestock - Causes soil degradation - Massive inefficiency - Major contributor to global warming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production Vegan Health https://www.reddit.com/r/veganfitness/wiki/index https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/dieteticorgs Animals ethics crash course - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-BX-jN_Ac The most common and well known argument is the argument from marginal cases. Loosely speaking, the argument contends that animals as sentient as retards should have the same moral status formal argument - http://www.iep.utm.edu/anim-eth/#SSH1fi (Meatcucks please read the following before leaving a stupid comment) Ad Hominem - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem e.g. vegans are faggots Strawman - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman e.g. vegans want white genocide Appeal to nature - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature e.g. meat is natural and therefore ethical Tu Quoque - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque e.g. vegans buy computers Morality is relative - Science, logic, mathematics are all based on axioms that are not proven, what is different about morality and moral axioms? Think this argument through before arguing for it, it is not as simple as you think. (most philosophers are moral realists and believe moral propositions can in fact be true) Meatcucks please realise the difference between normative ethics (what we ought to do) and descriptive ethics (what beliefs do people have). Normative ethics is what is being discussed with regards to veganism and morality. e.g. - people should not eat animals for x reason (relevant normative claim) - people eat animals for y reason (irrelevant descriptive claim) Honest Advertising for Omnivores https://youtu.be/zF_MlhXAjiE Discord discord .gg/dTsF4T",VEGAN GENERAL - Vegan Master Race Edition,Anonymous,vivisection-banned-endalldisease.jpg,1fHXOVBcz4FrXU+/Qa6Nkg==,AU,,1510449725 149073580,149073659,2017-11-12 01:23:00,">>149073580 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQynViAF6Ds",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510449780 150950268,150950268,2017-11-26 03:26:37,"A place for discussing all things vegan ethics, politics & health Meat consumption is ruining the environment. - Pollutes rivers - Forests cleared for livestock - Causes soil degradation - Massive inefficiency - Major contributor to global warming. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production Vegan Health https://www.reddit.com/r/veganfitness/wiki/index https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/dieteticorgs Animals ethics crash course - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3-BX-jN_Ac The most common and well known argument is the argument from marginal cases. Loosely speaking, the argument contends that animals as sentient as retards should have the same moral status formal argument - http://www.iep.utm.edu/anim-eth/#SSH1fi (Meatcucks please read the following before leaving a stupid comment) Ad Hominem - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem e.g. vegans are faggots Strawman - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman e.g. vegans want white genocide Appeal to nature - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-nature e.g. meat is natural and therefore ethical Tu Quoque - https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque e.g. vegans buy computers Morality is relative? - Science, logic, mathematics are all based on axioms that are not proven, what is different about morality and moral axioms? Think this argument through before arguing for it, it is not as simple as you think. (most philosophers are moral realists and believe moral propositions can in fact be true) Meatcucks please realise the difference between normative ethics (what we ought to do) and descriptive ethics (what beliefs do people have). Normative ethics is what is being discussed with regards to veganism and morality. e.g. - people should not eat animals for x reason (relevant normative claim) - people eat animals for y reason (irrelevant descriptive claim) Honest Advertising for Omnivores https://youtu.be/zF_MlhXAjiE Discord aW3Pkf",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,1511684795397.jpg,lg48kqBDLme1Fc2iNTvWkQ==,AU,,1511666797 150950268,150950758,2017-11-26 03:34:59,">>150950268 >Sees nice bread >Click on it thinking it will give me some nice vegan health tips >""meatcucks"" >Morality isnt relative >Nazi larp picture",,Anonymous,1511582453703.png,FqN+QKWaFbPHml17Ps3JHw==,US,,1511667299 150950268,150950866,2017-11-26 03:37:01,">>150950268 freddie mercury?",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1511667421 150950268,150950897,2017-11-26 03:37:39,">>150950758 stop eating processed food, start making your own food, cut out as much saturated fat and cholesterol as possile, eat 1 onions a day, be cautiouse of what you eat, make a cronometer account, erxercise",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511667459 150950268,150951083,2017-11-26 03:40:54,">>150950758 Also stop eating dairy, never eat dairy again",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511667654 150950268,150951183,2017-11-26 03:42:43,">>150951083 b-but muh iodine gainz",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1511667763 150950268,150951648,2017-11-26 03:51:21,">>150951183 i ""supplement"" with 3.5g of iodine salt, because i dont eat processed shit most stuff doesnt containe a tone of sodium, that way i get my DRI for sodium and iodine, 3.5g",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511668281 150950268,150951681,2017-11-26 03:51:58,">>150950268 Nice post Durian",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511668318 150950268,150951691,2017-11-26 03:52:10,>frogs in the front giving Hitler salute,,Anonymous,,,US,,1511668330 150950268,150951968,2017-11-26 03:56:53,">>150951681 DR is a sickcunt",,Anonymous,1511686599133.png,21uHSIFP+cB/YeklFDiWrw==,AU,,1511668613 150950268,150952388,2017-11-26 04:04:14,"I've been vegan for two years. Our racial ideology is strongly connected to our disgust response. We find outsiders to be disgusting. We find sex outside of marriage to be disgusting due to the spread of diseases. Considering this, It makes perfect sense for us to abstain from eating meat. Eating meat is impure, disgusting and degenerate. It is dirty. We don't abstain from meat due to animal suffering, we do it because it's unclean and we do it because we want the best for our health.",,Anonymous,xjI30.jpg,kJKF+5nC0s/mp6EJC4ADHQ==,AU,,1511669054 150950268,150952398,2017-11-26 04:04:22,">>150951648 I was joking desu, milk has iodine because of the tit dip :D:D:D",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1511669062 150950268,150952514,2017-11-26 04:06:15,>this kills the vegcuck,,Anonymous,IMAG0506.jpg,cYUHsJF1MkyTGmTGTRhUtw==,US,,1511669175 150950268,150952588,2017-11-26 04:07:27,">>150952398 but milk is bad for you >>150952514 >food is now an argument agains lower rates of diet related disease",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511669247 150950268,150952621,2017-11-26 04:08:01,">>150952514 this kills the meatcuck",,Anonymous,meatcucks3.webm,5wTcYkxKCR3kTpYBerwBIA==,AU,,1511669281 150950268,150952738,2017-11-26 04:09:57,">>150952588 milk is absolutely not bad for you. youre just wrong.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511669397 150950268,150952799,2017-11-26 04:10:54,">>150952588 >>150952621 http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/it-wasnt-worth-it-says-103-year-old-vegetarian-20151027103301 Imagine living this long and regretting every second of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511669454 150950268,150952822,2017-11-26 04:11:20,">>150952799 Archived that satire/fake news site for you. >http://thedailymash co uk/news/health/it-wasnt-worth-it-says-103-year-old-vegetarian-20151027103301 https://unvis.it/thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/it-wasnt-worth-it-says-103-year-old-vegetarian-20151027103301",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1511669480 150950268,150953047,2017-11-26 04:14:35,">>150952738 yes goy, estrogen is good for you >>150952799 >regrets extending his life hahaha, well I cant help that, might want to shorten it with cocaine rather then meat.",,Anonymous,Dietary Estrogen.png,t/VTnrDS0jPsJ5pKS51bhw==,DE,,1511669675 150950268,150953097,2017-11-26 04:15:16,">>150952822 Sshhh",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511669716 150950268,150953099,2017-11-26 04:15:16,">>150952388 The soft coloring of that pic makes me feel cozy like I am seeing an episode of Star Trek TOS (TNG is for soulless lizards)",,Anonymous,nattyfatty.jpg,Zubi6X65dh/93uMMl9SA3g==,US,,1511669716 150950268,150953113,2017-11-26 04:15:30,">>150952738 proof?",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1511669730 150950268,150953225,2017-11-26 04:17:20,">>150953047 im about to read that article my burger. im a scientist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511669840 150950268,150953367,2017-11-26 04:19:43,">>150953225 there is nothing exept b12 in milk that you cant get elswere, without pumping yourself full of estrogen.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511669983 150950268,150954057,2017-11-26 04:31:54,">full of estrogen hardly. 130 ng/L of estrone, 1.2ug/L of progesterone, also 90 ng/L testosterone. also, you need to look up the health benefits of low dose progesterone (nerve protection, skin protection, antinflammatory, stem cell regeneration) you wanna be scientific bro, read up its all there in the paper you cited. also, soy milk is an amazing antinflammatory beverage and its highly recommended.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511670714 150950268,150954202,2017-11-26 04:34:26,">>150953367 >there is nothing exept b12 in milk that you cant get elswere Maybe your English is getting crossed. You can get b12 in plant milks, sips, supps, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511670866 150950268,150954326,2017-11-26 04:36:31,">>150950268 >>150952388 I wish this meme would die. Hitler wasn't a vegan. No one knows for sure even if he was actually a vegetarian. Stop lumping vegans with vegetarians to make your nutritionally incomplete cult of a diet appear normal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511670991 150950268,150954374,2017-11-26 04:37:10,">>150954202 sure >>150954057 also some tasty growth hormone, 130ng/L is a fucktone, a birthcontroll pill high dossage is 35000ng of estrogen",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511671030 150950268,150954383,2017-11-26 04:37:19,">>150953113 the proof is in the pudding. milk is the primary nutrient of babies. the so-called colostrum, then milk. nature doesnt fuck up too much. if you have high cholesterol, ok skip the fat and get low fat milk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511671039 150950268,150954451,2017-11-26 04:38:27,">>150954057 You should take progesterone if you want the benefits of low dose progesterone. Just lol if you think 1microgram orally is going to have any appreciable effect. The estrogen and POPs in milk is a different story.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511671107 150950268,150954470,2017-11-26 04:38:53,">>150954326 >nutritionally incomplete try again",,Anonymous,1511689128978.png,h0BYG8AGC3LU45epJ4lk7Q==,AU,,1511671133 150950268,150954515,2017-11-26 04:39:46,">>150954451 nah bro, why get estrogen mimicers with the same effect when you can get tasty realy estrogen that lowers you test",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511671186 150950268,150954562,2017-11-26 04:40:40,">>150954326 >""no one knows for sure"" In a diary entry dated 26 April 1942, Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a committed vegetarian, writing, ""An extended chapter of our talk was devoted by the Führer to the vegetarian question. He believes more than ever that meat-eating is harmful to humanity. Of course he knows that during the war we cannot completely upset our food system. After the war, however, he intends to tackle this problem also. Maybe he is right. Certainly the arguments that he adduces in favor of his standpoint are very compelling.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511671240 150950268,150954702,2017-11-26 04:43:25,">>150954470 Another disingenuous or ignorant poster. You can't get true B12 from a vegan diet alone. No plant contains true B12 naturally, only pseudo B12. As a vegan, you need supplements like a chronically-ill patient to survive. http://www.b12-vitamin.com/analogs/",,Anonymous,1511628054143.png,Zjc+nCAPHacsHt6jRXijbA==,,,1511671405 150950268,150954737,2017-11-26 04:44:10,">>150954374 dude, thats a 270 fold difference. to get that dosage youd have to drink 270 liters of milk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511671450 150950268,150954871,2017-11-26 04:46:18,">>150954451 but why if i can just drink milk?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511671578 150950268,150954882,2017-11-26 04:46:30,">>150954562 And that's precisely my point. Is being a vegetarian the same as a vegan? You just want to lump vegetarians - who still consume some animal foods - with vegans to make your deficient diet appear normal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511671590 150950268,150954975,2017-11-26 04:48:15,">>150954871 Because you need to take milligram doses of progesterone to get its beneficial effects.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511671695 150950268,150955043,2017-11-26 04:49:27,">>150954882 >No one knows for sure even if he was actually a vegetarian Goebbels proved you wrong. Don't move the goalpost.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511671767 150950268,150955169,2017-11-26 04:51:57,">>150954702 >disingenuous take a few seconds to look at the pic brah",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511671917 150950268,150955209,2017-11-26 04:52:53,"Since vegan threads start appearing here, the soyboi bullshit started taking off. It looks like a coordinated effort to maintain a cuckservative mindset on /pol/.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511671973 150950268,150955228,2017-11-26 04:53:09,">>150954702 b12 is fake but raises b12 blood level, ok nigger https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4145307/ >>150954737 damn you are right i mad a calculation mistake, still, nobody needs to put extra estrogen in their body, milk raises you estrogen levels and lowers testosterone https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511671989 150950268,150955296,2017-11-26 04:54:23,">>150954975 that sounds high to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511672063 150950268,150955329,2017-11-26 04:54:58,">>150955209 >vegan >cuckservative Pick one. Among right-wingers, boomer-tier conseratives are the least likely to be vegan, fascists the most.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511672098 150950268,150955434,2017-11-26 04:56:33,">>150955043 He was a meat-eater most of his life tho. Also, not moving goal posts, you're using vegetarias as posterchildren for deficient diets. Pure intellectual dishonesty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672193 150950268,150955443,2017-11-26 04:56:45,">>150955296 Okay bro, show me some studies using <1 microgram doses in humans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511672205 150950268,150955566,2017-11-26 04:58:48,">>150955169 Because your infographic is guaranteed to be misleading vegan propaganda. You simply cannot get all essentials from a vegan diet alone. Vegans NEED supplements/dietary pills to survive.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672328 150950268,150955631,2017-11-26 05:00:01,">>150954702 THIS B12 is a major red pill subject that people need to take seriously.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511672401 150950268,150955634,2017-11-26 05:00:02,">>150955434 Hitler was a vegetarian when being a vegetarian was a very uncommon thing. Considering his feelings towards animals and the overwhelming evidence today showing vegan diets to be equal or superior in nutrition to omnivorous diets, I have little doubt Hitler would be a vegan were he alive today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511672402 150950268,150955655,2017-11-26 05:00:15,">>150955228 well look, dont worry about the estrogen, milk is good for you. the amount of testosterone a man naturally makes can hardly be offset by this minor estrogen influx. let me tell you why you die. you deplete your stem cells. something helps stem cells regenerate longer. a certain sex lives longer. you do the math. who wants to be old for too long though?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511672415 150950268,150955677,2017-11-26 05:00:38,">>150950268 >Meat consumption is ruining the environment We should also ban guns because they are used irresponsibly. You are so right. Yeah!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511672438 150950268,150955722,2017-11-26 05:01:24,">>150955655 >well look, dont worry about the estrogen, milk is good for you oyy fucking vey, dont worry about estrogen goy, bu-but soy raises estrogen and makes you a bitch, post a pic of you wabbely tits right now.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511672484 150950268,150955790,2017-11-26 05:02:45,">>150955566 Yes, vegans supplement b12. So what? How is being 'forced' to take a b12 supplement any different than being 'forced' to eat meat?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511672565 150950268,150955874,2017-11-26 05:04:18,">>150952738 lol.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672658 150950268,150955922,2017-11-26 05:05:22,">>150954326 Vegans and vegetarians are allies",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672722 150950268,150955961,2017-11-26 05:06:06,">>150955655 - Estrogen in milk lowers test and stops you developing into a real man https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 try again",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511672766 150950268,150955972,2017-11-26 05:06:22,">>150955634 I don't care about your speculative what ifs. Hitler was never a vegan. A vegan diet alone is dangerous when not supplemented and you should stop spreading false information that claims otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672782 150950268,150955995,2017-11-26 05:06:49,">>150954383 >he thinks there are no consequences for drinking the puss fat from another species.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672809 150950268,150956000,2017-11-26 05:06:51,">>150950268 >Meat consumption is ruining the environment. Mass meat production by unethical companies ruins it. And it's far from being the only culprit of our environment being ruined: if we find lead in fish, and pesticides in water, it's not because of meat. Check small local producers, many treat their animals well and are careful of the environment. Buy from them, or go hunting, just stop supporting the meat industry. It will be more expensive, you may not be able to eat as much meat as you used to, but eat fucking meat. (((They))) want you to eat soy, never forget this. And you won't be a happy vegan if you can eat neither meat nor soy.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511672811 150950268,150956032,2017-11-26 05:07:36,">>150955972 no one is telling you not to supplement B12 cunt",,Anonymous,LivestockB12.gif,sUwKVNaRaYU5mw1KU2XAKg==,AU,,1511672856 150950268,150956053,2017-11-26 05:08:05,">>150954702 Tell me where true b12 comes from. I know it hurts to do actual research but try.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672885 150950268,150956086,2017-11-26 05:08:52,">>150955972 >appeals to nature are now arguments >>150956000 >And you won't be a happy vegan if you can eat neither meat nor soy Wrong",,Anonymous,Adventist Health Study.jpg,JPry24mvgFJBVE/4pfXmdg==,DE,,1511672932 150950268,150956095,2017-11-26 05:08:56,">>150955790 >living like a chronically ill idiot is better than just eating varied foods from both animal and plant sources. Don't be silly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511672936 150950268,150956163,2017-11-26 05:10:14,">>150955566 >Vegans NEED supplements/dietary pills to survive So does everyone. Your argument is invalid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511673014 150950268,150956222,2017-11-26 05:11:22,">>150956095 >lower rates of cancer, heart dissease, atheroscorosis and diabets are not worth poping one pill a day gotta die at 50 because medication is not natural",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511673082 150950268,150956223,2017-11-26 05:11:25,"Bot thread most likely. Almost every Vegan who has been a Vegan for a couple of years has >lost their teeth >lost color in their skin tone, making them look weird >lost weight, some looking like Holohoax survivors >lost their minds, just look at people like Vegan Gains Simply put, there are some vitamins/minerals that aren't found in plants and are only found in meat/fish. If you don't mind losing your teeth, muscle and mind, go for a Vegan diet. If you're actually worried about your health, have an omnivore diet with plenty of greens and fish like nature intended.",,Anonymous,22220073_1659789847416519_3777240058507042422_o.jpg,U9EAUbkwq6VqU+ouh1NTxA==,US,,1511673085 150950268,150956224,2017-11-26 05:11:26,">>150954383 and you are a baby? you are a baby and ur mother is a cow? what??",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1511673086 150950268,150956301,2017-11-26 05:12:50,">>150956223 What a fucking moronic post.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511673170 150950268,150956353,2017-11-26 05:13:47,">>150956053 I've already done my research and true, bio-ative B12 is produced by bacteria in the intestinal tract of animals during the first digestion, animals then either eat their own feces (called coprophagia) or eat foods contaminated with feces and then absorb B12 during the second digestion. This process is called double digestions. Humans lack double digestion and therefore CANNOT get B12 from their own feces.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511673227 150950268,150956380,2017-11-26 05:14:10,">>150955443 http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1404304#t=article best i got is this. looks to be something like 500 mg for a 100 kg person. but thats acute 4 days infusion for TBI. a mg/day sounds a lot for a chronic kind of exposure. you can get contraceptive effects with 150ug per dose.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511673250 150950268,150956390,2017-11-26 05:14:21,">>150956353 -Bio-active",,Anonymous,,,,,1511673261 150950268,150956448,2017-11-26 05:15:31,">>150956353 >Humans lack double digestion and therefore CANNOT get B12 from their own feces. Tell that to this retard here>>150956301",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511673331 150950268,150956449,2017-11-26 05:15:31,">>150956223 and meat/fish get those vitamins/minerals from what exactly? you can't go vegan if ur an autist, you need to make sure you consume all the nutrients.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1511673331 150950268,150956472,2017-11-26 05:16:07,">>150956224 listen croat. dont skip the blitva.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511673367 150950268,150956496,2017-11-26 05:16:45,">>150956223 >humans are the only ones that get atherosclorosis from their diet >humans are omnivores just because you can eat a shoo doesnt mean you should >>150956390 >>150956353 stop being a memeflag nigger, like I told you today and yesterday vegans supplementing with ""fake"" b12 still raise their blood levels of b12.",,Anonymous,Strawmenball.png,sFBP6sx2iL1ZMKYJjJBXeg==,DE,,1511673405 150950268,150956518,2017-11-26 05:17:16,">>150956472 blitva gud owo",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1511673436 150950268,150956553,2017-11-26 05:17:59,">>150956472 >>150954383 >cholesterol",,Anonymous,Strawmenball4.png,uQ/HK1p+K/LzIHe0j+Ni1g==,DE,,1511673479 150950268,150956734,2017-11-26 05:21:01,">>150956496 Do you realize that B12 fortified foods actually contain true B12 and what is being discussed right now is the inability of a vegan diet alone (without supplementation) of providing B12? You have learn nothing from yesterday and insist on spreading misleading information. You sound deranged as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511673661 150950268,150956839,2017-11-26 05:22:54,">>150956449 >and meat/fish get those vitamins/minerals from what exactly? Skip to 4:00 https://youtu.be/1BUL78hbkLA?t=4m1s >>150956496 >>150956553 Watch the same video I posted above, the whole thing and then come back to me. https://youtu.be/1BUL78hbkLA?t=4m1s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511673774 150950268,150956843,2017-11-26 05:22:57,">>150956163 >people not on diets needs dietary pills wat",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1511673777 150950268,150956933,2017-11-26 05:24:25,">>150956032 >what is free range meat",,Anonymous,,,,,1511673865 150950268,150956999,2017-11-26 05:25:47,">>150956839 wow we can cook? who would have thought!",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1511673947 150950268,150957018,2017-11-26 05:26:12,">>150956734 so vegan b12 supplements containe realy b12 but real b12 is not found in vegan foods? >>150956839 a guy that only education is how to poke needles into people gives nutrition advice, supplementing with algy based epa and dha raises blood levels, or just consume enough omega 3 and your body can convert all the dha and epa he needs http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/11/do-vegans-need-supplements-of-omega-3-fats/",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511673972 150950268,150957062,2017-11-26 05:27:08,">>150950268 Vegans are faggots. Animals eat other animals. It's called life. Too bad you're too much of a jizz sponge to understand life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511674028 150950268,150957088,2017-11-26 05:27:25,">>150956839 >Joe Rogan podcast kek excellent source bro",,Anonymous,1511692042663.jpg,+ArgWuNW0FWHHJrnj6EYKw==,AU,,1511674045 150950268,150957448,2017-11-26 05:34:15,">>150955961 10% drop in urine 2 hours after drinking 1L of milk in 10 minutes. do you want me to tell you why thats a bad study? its not measured in blood. that 10% drop in urine is indicative of FUCKING RETENTION. so what youre saying is that the nips suck at science (knew that) and that milk actually increases your blood testosterone levels as evidenced by a drop of it urine (excreted testosterone). thats a perfectly valid reasoning, although it may not be true. thats why it was published in some shit journal with an impact factor of less than 1. thats crap my strayan cunt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511674455 150950268,150957586,2017-11-26 05:37:02,">>150957448 no it isn't high test means high test piss",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511674622 150950268,150957725,2017-11-26 05:39:40,">>150950268 Eat soy, goys. It's good for you, goy. Don't eat meat, it's baaaaad.",,Anonymous,IMG_9315.gif,rPWdVhvgowrdzuS6+RNRpw==,US,,1511674780 150950268,150957750,2017-11-26 05:40:04,">>150950268 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm-MpiFYpAQ do you like george monbiots points? hes a bit of a lefty ut his environmental points are bang on",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511674804 150950268,150957814,2017-11-26 05:41:14,">>150950268 what do you think of being a scavengetarian or freegan etc",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1511674874 150950268,150957822,2017-11-26 05:41:21,">>150950268 SOY IT WITH ME SOY BOY",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511674881 150950268,150957944,2017-11-26 05:43:44,">>150957062 if you are on /pol/ it may be of interest to you that adolph was mostly vegetarian and he was basically the realest nigger of all time also i recommend looking into wagners feelings on the connection between the fall of man, consuming the flesh of animals and judaism. not joking about any of that",,Anonymous,,,,,1511675024 150950268,150957951,2017-11-26 05:43:46,">>150950268 Lefty /pol/ Vegan cucks are trying to divide /pol/ creating shitty soyboy pro vegan homo pedo theards. Remember dont take the bait.",,Anonymous,1509598017395.jpg,keTYA1CfIMMoFxDi4LZmOg==,MX,,1511675026 150950268,150957969,2017-11-26 05:44:06,">>150957750 probably, doesn't really take a genius to figure out eating meat is bad for the environment /pol/ likes to live in denial like a bunch of pussies",,Anonymous,1511693036887.jpg,3LVVJClEYh2MFn/nLuHQBw==,AU,,1511675046 150950268,150958131,2017-11-26 05:46:48,">>150956086 >collating fatties and healthy meat eaters and thinking meat is bad >collating skinny vegans with deficiencies and healthy vegans and coming to the conclusion veganism must be good AVERAGES HOW DO THEY WORK",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511675208 150950268,150958241,2017-11-26 05:48:43,"Plants have feelings to you Savages Go back to eating meat so you can save the planet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511675323 150950268,150958307,2017-11-26 05:50:11,">>150954326 >make something appear normal by coupling it with Hitler only /pol/",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1511675411 150950268,150958403,2017-11-26 05:51:54,">>150958131 post a study showing the positive effects of eating tones of meat on diabetis then, vegans on average are the only ones that fit into the normal bmi range everyone else is overweight in the US",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511675514 150950268,150958441,2017-11-26 05:52:40,">>150950268 > Hitler was vegan And a faggot in tight pants as well, nothing new. > Major contributor to global warming. Excellent.",,Anonymous,topclarkson.jpg,t6epYCvY64bXIraBZRMDCQ==,CH,,1511675560 150950268,150958512,2017-11-26 05:54:09,">industrial farming to feed animals harms environment >industrial farming to feed humans harms environment pick one",,Anonymous,,,,,1511675649 150950268,150958578,2017-11-26 05:55:25,"Vegans are defective humans. Were they an animal in the wild they would fail to thrive. Humanizing animals is a red flag for mental health. You cannot seriously put our food on the same level as us. It is an absurdity. Has any scientific research been done to determine if not eating meat results in reduced function? Meat is the most efficient way to get enough energy to sufficiently power the human brain.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511675725 150950268,150958686,2017-11-26 05:57:21,">>150958403 B M I oh my",,Anonymous,,,,,1511675841 150950268,150958773,2017-11-26 05:59:04,">>150958686 >being fat is now good",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511675944 150950268,150958786,2017-11-26 05:59:25,">>150950268 > don't eat meat > don't have children > you're ruining the planet goyim",,Anonymous,fertility rate.png,C7VSNPHmSrI74VbtAt7X6w==,HU,,1511675965 150950268,150958792,2017-11-26 05:59:30,">>150950268 I've been vegan before,quit because of taste. I admit I felt a lot more energetic when I was vegan. Gains in the gym weren't too bad either, although it's much easier to gain muscle as an Omnivore. I'll say though, if people can make Veganism work for them, totally do it. In the meantime we shouldn't get heated over this until our countries are 100% White again",,Anonymous,1484789268930.png,dsxIu/ifG5Qp3VasYM6sJQ==,CH,,1511675970 150950268,150958879,2017-11-26 06:01:22,">>150958786 thats a fair point, not having white children because of a carbon foodprint is just retarded.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511676082 150950268,150958881,2017-11-26 06:01:24,,,Anonymous,IMG_3203.jpg,rsOUbCsjJw4CzxQPzkkL3w==,US,,1511676084 150950268,150959079,2017-11-26 06:05:26,">>150957586 my bad. its actually measured in serum. the testosterone. i take it back nips. but look bro, i now know why this is published in a shit journal. theres no proper control. theres no milk without estrogen to compare your results. you cant claim causality without a proper control. so fuck you nips, you do suck. if you look at studies, i did a quick look through, you can see that the testosterone drop can be also cause by a quick intake of lots of sugar, like when the docs give you a test for diabetes. that drop was like 25%, sustained just like the nip study, which is still shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511676326 150950268,150959167,2017-11-26 06:07:20,">>150958881 >discussion of health and what you should & should not consume doesn't belong on /pol/ fat and ignorant isn't a great way to live your life anon",,Anonymous,,,,,1511676440 150950268,150959306,2017-11-26 06:10:05,">>150959079 >theres no milk without estrogen to compare your results milk always containes estrogen, but in the west cows are pregnant most of the time, so the estrogen content is higher, see https://harvardmagazine.com/2007/05/modern-milk.html but this ""modern milk"" makes up most milk",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511676605 150950268,150959389,2017-11-26 06:11:51,vegans are stupid,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511676711 150950268,150959419,2017-11-26 06:12:24,">>150956223 This is so retarded.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511676744 150950268,150959519,2017-11-26 06:14:26,">>150959306 im just saying. the study is invalid in claiming causality for that fact alone. you know,. estrogen is lipid soluble and as such is excreted in some amount by females on their skin. so dont get a gf, or limit contact with women.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511676866 150950268,150959603,2017-11-26 06:16:09,">>150950268 >Meat consumption is ruining the environment. Environmentalism was created by corporations who want to expand the population to infinity to gain more revenue. To do this, they have to make sure everybody rations everything to prevent the planet from being destroyed. Population is the only determinant of environmental problems. That is why a lot of vegan nutjobs have taken the logical next step and castrated themselves to make sure their beliefs are consistent. Otherwise, they just become hypocrites as soon as they have children. A single person without children causes less environmental destruction than a single person with a child, regardless of being vegan or not, which is a minor environmental improvement at the most.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511676969 150950268,150959619,2017-11-26 06:16:38,">>150955329 That's exactly the point of my post. I'm proposing the soyboy meme is a coordinated effort to maintain the boomer """"""conservative"""""" mindset of magapedes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511676998 150950268,150959670,2017-11-26 06:17:43,">>150955790 b12 supplements cause cancer.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511677063 150950268,150959772,2017-11-26 06:19:50,">>150959519 yeah, instead of accepting that drinking milk high in estrogen might raise your estrogen, you have to do mental gymnastics. >>150959603 but you can massively reduce the impact humans are having, fishing is fucking over the ocean, and fish is not even a large part of our diet. >>150959670 no it doesnt the study you referency was also supplemetnting other b vitamins in large quantities, this isnt conclusive evidence that b12 supplements cause cancer",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511677190 150950268,150959941,2017-11-26 06:23:18,">>150958403 BMI and diabetes only aren't indicators of health, especially if you consider averages. I'm not seeing blood cell counts in there for starters, and that's often a funny one with vegans. Don't even get me started on studies comparing Americans eating oreos and burgers dipped in antibiotics, with Danes eating organic lentils. Of fucking course you're going to see a difference. But then what is the issue: meat, or mass-produced bleeched meat? You could cherrypick parts of conclusions of studies and come up with any kind of conclusion. There are studies claiming everything and their opposite, because science is a bit more complex than publishing a paper with any kind of conclusion, and it's more than a simple meat vs plants issue. And then, there's genetics. The best way you can know is to experiment yourself, and see what works. Being myself a quite high level athlete, having climbed some of the tallest peaks, done some professional diving on oil rigs, trekked across deserts, jungles and tundras, well I can tell you, BE SURE TO EAT YOUR DAILY FUCKING MEAT. I've rarely met vegans on my travels, most are a pain in the ass because they're slowing everyone down. I only met two that were as capable and healthy, simply they struggled to find something to eat much more. But then, there's genetics, follow the same diet and physical activity as these guys and you'll die. This is coming from a guy who's been a 100% organic vegan for three years, followed by physicians, and it just made me feel like shit.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511677398 150950268,150960027,2017-11-26 06:24:53,">>150959772 >but you can massively reduce the impact humans are having You can reduce the impact humans are having by reducing their quality of life. How far do you want to go? But that doesn't change the fact that population is the largest determinant of environmental destruction. You cannot reduce your impact on the environment by 100% relative to meat eaters so that you can justify another human being created. Veganism might give a single person lets say a 5% better environmental score. That means you can't even create one more human with that saving. As I said, environmentalism is about corporations trying to squeeze population growth out of the earth to maximize profits at the expense of quality of life. >this isnt conclusive evidence that b12 supplements cause cancer Nothing vegans ever quote about health is conclusive evidence of anything either. It is all bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511677493 150950268,150960047,2017-11-26 06:25:17,">>150958403 Vegans also struggle without additives, and I say this broadly: stuff like olive oil is an ""additive"", it doesn't naturally exist, it must be mechanically extracted, and your digestive system can't possibly extract the oils in olives, unless you do it like monkeys in captivity who lost this ability, and either eat their poo, or throw up and eat again. Because you're not a fucking herbivore, and without a nearby vegan store, you're FUCKED. Veganism is so fucking modern and high tech, you have no fucking idea. Try living your comfort zone and see what happens. It certainly won't make you healthy nor capable of climbing a 5k. You're right to question stuff, just don't stop at meat.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511677517 150950268,150960460,2017-11-26 06:32:37,">>150959941 vegans are 0.5% of the population, ofcourse you are not gonna meet tones of vegan athlets, >diabetis protein, animal and plant protein acts insolinogenic, thats why americans have an issue, they eat a fucktone of protein, but dont need it because they are fat retards. >This is coming from a guy who's been a 100% organic vegan for three years, followed by physicians, and it just made me feel like shit. ok >>150960027 >You can reduce the impact humans are having by reducing their quality of life. How far do you want to go? not eating fish is a tiny change, if that decreases your quality of life you are misirable to begin with. >As I said, environmentalism is about corporations trying to squeeze population growth out of the earth to maximize profits at the expense of quality of life. I would say its more about the goverment gaining influence over regions so they can be protected, but your theorie sounds good aswell. >>150960047 >nearby vegan store, you're FUCKED what? Also fuck oil >eganism is so fucking modern and high tech, you have no fucking idea oh no, I assume you also hate moern medicin, because natural people in kenya dont have that? >It certainly won't make you healthy nor capable of climbing a 5k. im just not seeing the evidence, isnt the Us freerun champion vegan? >You're right to question stuff, just don't stop at meat yeah i agree, im not in it for the ethics, if you can provide me with evidence that eating meat reasults in a just as healthy life i will change my mind",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511677957 150950268,150960561,2017-11-26 06:34:18,">>150960047 >Veganism is so fucking modern and high tech Tell that to all those ancient vegan Hindus and Chinese. Veganism has traditionally being linked with enlightenment and achieving a superior state of existence through asceticism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511678058 150950268,150960593,2017-11-26 06:34:53,"Thoughts about lacto vegetarianism, that's the only kind i see as practical",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1511678093 150950268,150960620,2017-11-26 06:35:15,">>150960027 >As I said, environmentalism is about corporations trying to squeeze population growth out of the earth to maximize profits at the expense of quality of life. I would say its more about the goverment gaining influence over regions so they can be protected, i meant to say ""protected"" so the goverment can gain more power, and sell of the land",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511678115 150950268,150960684,2017-11-26 06:36:10,">>150960593 fuck dairy m8, even if you ar not vegan you should not eat dairy, its just saturated fat and estrogen",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511678170 150950268,150960697,2017-11-26 06:36:21,">>150952388 We don't abstain from meat due to animal suffering, we do it because it's unclean and we do it because we want the best for our health. You retard it's almost entirely about animal suffering and the environment, nazis are the greenest people to ever exist",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511678181 150950268,150960816,2017-11-26 06:38:17,">>150960684 Eating estrogen does nothing you're retarded, plants have more xenoestrogens, do you have a real point against lacto vegetarianism or are you just going to shout milk is murder?",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1511678297 150950268,150961120,2017-11-26 06:43:39,">>150960816 >xenoestrogens its phytoestrogens, dumb monkey, xenoestrogens are in plastic, phytoestrogen is nowehere near as potent as real estrogen. Why would you go lacto vegetarian in the first place? you just miss out on the benefits of both meat eating and being vegan. >Eating estrogen does nothing you're retarded https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976 ok pajet, you are to smart",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511678619 150950268,150961439,2017-11-26 06:49:06,">>150961120 >pregnant cow And you are the brainlet Hans they are called endocrine disruptors and can be present in anything, you don't understand what the term xenoestrogens means, secondly lacto vegetarianism insures i dont lack out on essential protein or vit b while its humane",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1511678946 150950268,150961452,2017-11-26 06:49:18,">>150952388 > Eating meat is impure, disgusting and degenerate. It is dirt Eating meat can only be considered ""degenerated"" because you're harming an defenseless animal to fulfil your hedonistic desires, which is a very lowly materialistic behaviour, incompatible with idealistic ideologies like true fascism (not materialistic fascism, which is no different from communism or anything else). Read Savitri Devi.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511678958 150950268,150961746,2017-11-26 06:54:12,">>150961439 xenoestrogens are synthetic estrogen nigger, ""natural xenoestrogens "" are rarely found in plants, its only phytoestrogens that are common in soy and flax. >egetarianism insures i dont lack out on essential protein or vit b while its humane you dont get more protein then vegans, milk doesnt containe a lot of protein, >humane depends, you are still exploting animals, not that I care about that, but if you care about animals you shouldnt exploit them right? I guess its a bit different in india then in the west",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511679252 150950268,150961819,2017-11-26 06:55:12,">>150960460 Athletes are the kind of people taking care of their health, about what they eat, and experimenting things. Most athletes tried a vegan diet at least once, some tried several times. Some even have different diets depending on their activity, or the time of the year. So yes, there are tons of former vegans among outdoors people. And then certainly, veganism is neither natural nor realistic outside of occidental countries. And without oil, I pity your brain brah, because where will you get it without eating fuckloads of oily vegetables and praying for having good genes. And judging on that basis, it's easier to be a healthy meat eater than a healthy vegan, and whether it's mountaineering or freediving, you can see the difference. Vegans are universally mocked in sports and for good reason. Just because there's one healthy top athlete doesn't mean it's a good idea, some have just good genes, and you have no idea how much stuff athletes try to improve their performance. You need that fat, you can't do without it. Actually the only thing you can do without is carbs. Just go organic, don't overcook it, and you'll be absolutely fine. Don't even get me started on testosterone. Now if you want to eat additives all day long to get what you need, whose origin a d quality is as debatable as that of meat, go on, keep ruining your health. I though we'd have enough cases of dead vegan babies to be convincing, looks like we'll need more.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511679312 150950268,150962003,2017-11-26 06:58:07,">>150960561 It was a mark of wealth, nothing more. Even today, Indians eat meat, the poor ones that is. But they're all like ""waaah veganism is so cool"" even though they really don't know.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511679487 150950268,150962093,2017-11-26 06:59:31,">>150960561 >hindus/tibetans/chinese were/are vegans Vegetarians for fucks sake. There has never been a vegan culture in the world. Stop pumping vegetarians with vegans to justify your nutritionally incomplete diet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511679571 150950268,150962122,2017-11-26 07:00:05,">>150961819 >And then certainly, veganism is neither natural nor realistic outside of occidental countries doesnt matter >And without oil, I pity your brain brah, because where will you get it without eating fuckloads of oily vegetables and praying for having good genes is oil healty now? >Actually the only thing you can do without is carbs i doubt that >you need that fat, i get my fat >keep ruining your health great argument Post your body m8, i would really like to see how you look",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511679605 150950268,150962230,2017-11-26 07:01:52,">>150961746 >what is fertilizer How are we going on exploiting them , they are fed and aren't forced to give milk are you retarded",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1511679712 150950268,150962319,2017-11-26 07:03:28,">>150962230 yeah, its different in india, cows in the west are fucked >what is fertilizer again, we dont live in india where you die at 45 if you take a job where you fertelize fields.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511679808 150950268,150962956,2017-11-26 07:13:53,">>150962122 >>And then certainly, veganism is neither natural nor realistic outside of occidental countries >doesnt matter It matters because we don't know what tomorrow will be made of, we don't know what'll happen, and what we'll get to eat. The whole world eats meat, now count the overweight diabetics among shepherds in Mongolia. >>And without oil, I pity your brain brah, because where will you get it without eating fuckloads of oily vegetables and praying for having good genes >is oil healty now? It is, though it mostly is a good supplement if you don't eat meat. >>Actually the only thing you can do without is carbs >i doubt that Speaking of diabetes, insulinoresistant diabetics don't eat any carbs, at least very very little because they can't really avoid it 100%, and most of them end up being healthier than they were before, despite being diabetic. I'm not diabetic myself, but I follow that same diet: wheat, bread, rice, pasta, potatoes and sugar are all banned in my home. >>you need that fat, >i get my fat How? I hope you don't believe you actually get what's on the label at least. Also carbs turned into fat don't count. >>keep ruining your health >great argument You're disregarding all the ones I'm posting. >Post your body m8, i would really like to see how you look You won't get one, but look up pics of mountaineers and trekkers, and imagine the same thing for a 34 yo guy.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1511680433 150950268,150963162,2017-11-26 07:16:57,">>150962319 Yeah Hans your retardation is showing, fertilizer with xenoestrogens are exclusively used in first world country and you cannot wash them off",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1511680617 150950268,150964741,2017-11-26 07:40:35,ITT disgusting meatcucks trying to rationalise their degeneracy,,Anonymous,pol.jpg,pzAiRWVROF1VvgSVGUmJQA==,AU,,1511682035 150950268,150966130,2017-11-26 08:02:55,">>150964741 >vegans thinking they have the digestive system of herbivores or frugivores",,Anonymous,1494179361113-pol.jpg,r81sWUhO9jd5ee+8kbTrMQ==,FR,,1511683375 150950268,150967481,2017-11-26 08:25:52,">>150966130 fairly obvious veganism is healthier everything else is irrelevant",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511684752 150950268,150970406,2017-11-26 09:11:52,">>150962956 >It matters because we don't know what tomorrow will be made of, we don't know what'll happen, and what we'll get to eat. The whole world eats meat, now count the overweight diabetics among shepherds in Mongolia. im not going to be vegan when hunting for food is nececarry for survival, but today its completely doable. >It is, though it mostly is a good supplement if you don't eat meat. what? what fats do you get from oil that you dont get elswhere? >I'm not diabetic myself, but I follow that same diet: wheat, bread, rice, pasta, potatoes and sugar are all banned in my home. >wheat, bread, rice, pasta, potatoes starch doesnt spike blood sugar, so it should be fine >How? I hope you don't believe you actually get what's on the label at least. eating nuts and seeds? 80g Sunflower seeds 50g chia seeds >You won't get one, but look up pics of mountaineers and trekkers you see, im a asuper fit guy, but taking a picture to prove it? nah, just imagine me being super fit. >>150963162 m8 then please give me a source, i only find shit saying its in shampoo and other chemical products, only thing slightly related was that its found in soy, wich i dont eat.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1511687512 155763474,155763474,2018-01-06 11:30:55,"why aren't you vegan yet /pol/? better for your health better for your hairline better for animals better for the environment",Vegan General,Anonymous,tofu_fit_guy-20171001-0002.jpg,+ArgWuNW0FWHHJrnj6EYKw==,,,1515238255 155763474,155763664,2018-01-06 11:33:02,"Vitamin deficiency Humans are omnivores for millions of years A healthy diet with animal products is literally just better in every way (no processed sugar etc)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515238382 155763474,155763690,2018-01-06 11:33:20,"Based. Reminder meatcucks are ruining the earth discord .gg/QPhbEC",,Anonymous,animalagriculture.png,w2X40mRKP/4BWbFF/+C4BA==,AU,,1515238400 155763474,155763803,2018-01-06 11:34:27,">>155763474 That girl is so hot, post more pictures of her. Is too bad her parents abuse her like that. I'd slip her my meat, if you know what I'm saying.",,Anonymous,,,KZ,,1515238467 155763474,155763873,2018-01-06 11:35:15,">>155763664 even herbivores will eat meat opportunistically, we are the same",,Anonymous,1515256512069.png,OzHFQLwbNuulklaWIQsgow==,AU,,1515238515 155763474,155763920,2018-01-06 11:35:40,">>155763803 typical meatcuck degeneracy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1515238540 155763474,155764225,2018-01-06 11:39:13,">>155763474 Fuck off satan 1 Timothy 4 1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515238753 155763474,155764279,2018-01-06 11:39:49,I'd only be able to get my calories from coconuts and avocados if I were vegan. My body is sensitive to carbs and they make me produce fat-storing hormones.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515238789 155763474,155764573,2018-01-06 11:43:10,">>155764279 do eco-atkins",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1515238990 155763474,155764664,2018-01-06 11:44:10,">>155763474 >better for your health demonstrably false. saged for despicable lies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515239050 155763474,155764731,2018-01-06 11:45:00,">>155763664 >Americans eating meat-free diets average higher intakes of nearly every nutrient, while maintaining a lower body weigh—perhaps due, in part, to their higher resting metabolic rates. https://nutritionfacts.org/video/nutrient-dense-approach-to-weight-management/",,Anonymous,,,,,1515239100 155763474,155764764,2018-01-06 11:45:28,>>155763474,,Anonymous,150691497011.jpg,IZj5jt8pBCZh6FtnFqlZTA==,,,1515239128 155763474,155764917,2018-01-06 11:47:14,">>155763474 Because I am an omnivore, just like everyone in my species.",,...,glavica.jpg,mzFjke0KC01xPNsKPb+vYg==,RS,,1515239234 155763474,155764941,2018-01-06 11:47:31,">>155764731 >nearly every nutrient So you are missing some proving his point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515239251 155763474,155764993,2018-01-06 11:48:15,">>155763474 Take your leftist hippy shit and get out.",,Anonymous,1514352603276.png,92gT690FHFXZ4smRG/HsBw==,US,,1515239295 155763474,155765079,2018-01-06 11:49:12,">>155764941 you can get all nutrients as a vegan",,Anonymous,How_To_Cronometer.png,SHqHNVJt0ggLdGGt7iDNHQ==,AU,,1515239352 155763474,155765145,2018-01-06 11:50:04,">>155764731 >https://nutritionfacts.org/video/nutrient-dense-approach-to-weight-management/ The owner of this is clearly a Jew, you can check his picture Every fucking time",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1515239404 155763474,155765160,2018-01-06 11:50:13,">>155763474 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qACxfKB3iP4 /thread",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1515239413 155763474,155765338,2018-01-06 11:52:20,">>155764941 So the nutrient deficiency of meat eaters isn't a problem? Not getting MORE of EVERY single nutrient doesn't mean not getting enough of some.",,Anonymous,,,,,1515239540 155763474,155765392,2018-01-06 11:52:59,">>155764993 people have been ""reddit spacing"" since this website was established kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,,,1515239579 155763474,155765413,2018-01-06 11:53:11,"Because meat is good for you. >hurrr only plants! WE WUZ PLANT EATERS N SHIT >o-oh ok i guess fish is good for you I'm sure there were plenty of avocados and peanut butter in ancient Scandinavia, right? Just eat less meat. Buy organic grass fed when possible. (((factory farming))) is literally the only problem here.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1515239591 155763474,155765426,2018-01-06 11:53:19,">>155764993 I always figured that kind of spacing on 4chan indicated a paragraph change. Like a new idea or some tangent came up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515239599 155763474,155765454,2018-01-06 11:53:34,">>155764993 >reddit spacing kill yourself newfag SAGE",,Anonymous,,,,,1515239614 155763474,155765654,2018-01-06 11:55:53,"> Been eating a plant based whole foods diet for 3 years. > Don't call myself vegan because of the connection to leftist activist types.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515239753 155763474,155765925,2018-01-06 11:58:38,">Veganism is perfectly natural guyz! >Takes B12 supplements to live",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515239918 155763474,155766197,2018-01-06 12:01:30,">>155765145 Well, it's America. The pro-meat side is even jewisher. Do people really prefer to be on the side of scum like Rick Berman? https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Center_for_Consumer_Freedom",,Anonymous,881414.png,tGsnLPe/At3yzk42Taaa0Q==,,,1515240090 155763474,155766247,2018-01-06 12:02:04,">>155765413 This, vegans seem to think everyone had access to everything in the past, as well as refrigerators. Some ethnic groups like the Inuit will actually get morbidly obese it they eat non-meat products.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515240124 155763474,155767065,2018-01-06 12:11:11,">>155763474 Good luck getting your brotein from beans. At least vegetarians can eat eggs and dairy products.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1515240671 155763474,155767453,2018-01-06 12:15:10,">better for your health I'm from a ranching family, I know my exact food source and I can look back at the results of it for hundreds of years in photographs and paintings. I'll be fine. I have a bunch of relatives in their 90's who have eaten the same food as me and done the same work as me. >better for your hairline Doubt it. I'm in my 40's and not bald, my hair is thick and my hairline hasn't moved since I was a child. >better for the animals That won't exist? We don't worship the animals that we raise or whatever, we do it for money and food. If people didn't eat meat and animal products, I would do something else with my time, failing that I would at least sleep in. Some cows would form viable herds in the wild, sure. Most would die long before that, most are not well adapted to this climate. Cows that were not set in pasture beforehand could easily die before their coat grew in. Similar logistics would play out all over the world as far as the fate of suddenly-free cows goes. They're cultivated. Manure alone is not enough of a revenue stream to even cover upkeep, and if leather/carcass is considered then they're fucking dead anyways so why not eat them... >better for the environment This is objectively true, I can't rebut this. But there are plenty of other sources that should probably be tackled first... Don't forget that no livestock = many grains fucking plummeting which means those crops all have to be subsidized, or people would move away from producing them, introducing the risk of western famines. I don't see why it has to be all or nothing. vast sweeping changes will always have vast sweeping consequences. But it's perfectly feasible to shift focus away from animal products. That's already happening. You don't need to shatter any universal paradigms for that, you can participate within your own lifestyle and habits. Instead of trying to convince us not to eat meat, you should promote specific foods.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515240910 155763474,155767744,2018-01-06 12:18:05,">>155763474 >tfw no vegan gf to cook me vegan meals guess i have to continue eating animals",,Anonymous,1513471853398.jpg,wp8ghhKpyJdZfH7oV/rntQ==,US,,1515241085 155763474,155767959,2018-01-06 12:20:21,Expensive man. Here in ph adobo chicken or pork. Whatever the fuckin meat. Taste good. Add potatoes mmmm... DAMN!,,Anonymous,,,PH,,1515241221 155763474,155767984,2018-01-06 12:20:42,">>155767065 Quinoa, mushrooms, avocado, beans, nuts (macadamia, walnuts, etc. Not shitty almonds or cashews, which are okay once and a while but bad for your gut), leafy greens, small amounts of sugary fruit (avocado is different because it has a lot of necessary unsaturated fats), dairy (if any), and carbohydrates (like bread, cereal, crackers, etc.) and lots of water is efficient enough to sustain your health and nutrition. If needed, take vitamins (iodine, magnesium, B5, B12, and D are my number one choices).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515241242 155763474,155768082,2018-01-06 12:21:37,">>155763474 Because fuck you. On a serious note, it's because I like meat and other products that come from animals.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1515241297 155763474,155769603,2018-01-06 12:38:35,">>155763690 Post moar Earth-chans and planet-chans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515242315 155763474,155769607,2018-01-06 12:38:39,">>155763474 If I stop eating meat, am I given a soft loli to grind on my lap like that???",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515242319 155763474,155769680,2018-01-06 12:39:25,">>155763474 I respect your choice. Respect mine.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1515242365 155763474,155769719,2018-01-06 12:39:44,">>155764664 >thoth'd",,Anonymous,1514591265220.png,p9aoHW589y5uGl1tr0OENw==,US,,1515242384 155763474,155770129,2018-01-06 12:43:53,">>155763474 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi_yXxjX_8g /thread",,Anonymous,Bildschirmfoto 2017-12-08 um 22.14.34.png,76j4a2vpzJtc3J6yUyI0AQ==,PL,,1515242633 155763474,155771280,2018-01-06 12:56:01,">>155763474 Can you be fit and Vegan? If yes what type of diet do you use? Being an hardganiner that goes 4 times a week at the gym I need at least 4000 calories a day.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1515243361 155763474,155771315,2018-01-06 12:56:31,">>155763474 i wanna fuck that loli",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1515243391 155763474,155771674,2018-01-06 13:00:33,">>155771315 you dont fuck lolis, that ruins them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515243633 156057903,156057903,2018-01-08 23:36:02,"why aren't you vegan yet /pol/? better for your health better for your skin better for your hairline better for the environment better for the animals",Vegan General,Anonymous,Animal Products acne.png,YYLaxgEiOjuRucrfObyLJQ==,,,1515454562 156057903,156059348,2018-01-08 23:53:22,">>156057903 explain why it's better for hairline",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1515455602 156057903,156059427,2018-01-08 23:54:35,>>156057903,,Anonymous,vegan.png,LPolEYDPBsox7gpFFVGlhg==,US,,1515455675 156057903,156059489,2018-01-08 23:55:32,">>156057903 Why so sad, I go vegan every day, until it's time for my next meal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1515455732 156057903,156059557,2018-01-08 23:56:53,">>156057903 you forgot Hitler was vegetarian to gain magic powers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515455813 156057903,156059596,2018-01-08 23:57:18,">>156059348 >explain why it's better for hairline more alpha lapoic acid, less toxins from animal fats",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515455838 156057903,156059672,2018-01-08 23:58:20,">>156057903 I'd rather not turn into a grey skeleton like Bill Clinton",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515455900 156057903,156059753,2018-01-08 23:59:13,">becoming a literal SoyBoy Also I donate blood while at the same time have mild anaemia. I need to supplement iron and eat disgusting amounts of meat. Last time I tried cutting meat out, my iron levels dropped to a quarter of normal levels, and I would sleep 18 hours a day. I physically cannot eat a vegetarian/vegan diet, the non-heme iron isn't enough.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515455953 156057903,156059877,2018-01-09 00:00:46,"Vegan master race reporting in. I used to eat the Prilosec jew every day, now I am naturally heartburn free.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515456046 156057903,156059933,2018-01-09 00:01:30,">>156059753 Although I do recognize the positive environmental effects and try to contribute as best as I physically can. It's debatable whether a pure vegetarian/vegan diet is healthier than an omnivorous one, but certainly increasing veggie and fruit consumption is good",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515456090 156057903,156059978,2018-01-09 00:02:01,">>156059753 Get a cast iron skillet you filthy nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515456121 156057903,156060109,2018-01-09 00:03:46,reminder you can get all the nutrients you need on a vegan diet,,Anonymous,How_To_Cronometer.png,SHqHNVJt0ggLdGGt7iDNHQ==,AU,,1515456226 156057903,156060275,2018-01-09 00:06:00,">>156059348 meat contains creatine with raises DHT levels and causes balding",,Anonymous,creatine_dht.png,8zJwHWxJ0usoHZqc5+tW/g==,AU,,1515456360 156057903,156060372,2018-01-09 00:07:10,">>156057903 Because I'm married to a man, but I'm not THAT gay, you know?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515456430 156057903,156061231,2018-01-09 00:16:35,">>156059978 I cook everything in cast iron. Iron pot to boil water. Iron supplements. Lots of meat. Not sure what's wrong with me. Donating blood probably doesn't help, but I feel it's a civic duty. Even when I took a break from donating, my iron still dropped to the quarter normal level when I lived on university campus, and the cafeteria only had the shittiest cuts of meat.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1515456995 156057903,156061757,2018-01-09 00:22:36,">>156061231 heme iron causes cancer https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22044848",,Anonymous,Heme Iron Cancer.png,dDUZNg1Dales3Mw7rvTd1g==,AU,,1515457356 156057903,156062034,2018-01-09 00:26:08,"wanted to post this in the previous soy-meme thread: i've been drinking soy milk almost daily for just about a decade, also diet heavy on grains so lots of phytoestrogens >no man boobs >dad who is allergic to soy and has avoided it for decades got man boobs in his mid 60s after [[[daily whiskey consumption for years]]] >i'm fit but thin, not into lifting, don't care about getting bigger, seems like an illogical waste of money on food and time spent shitting it all out >never been into video games since i was 12 >was wayyy into trump during the meme war and scored lots of digits >have a long cool beard >am not going bald even though my dad was at my age >don't take selfies, and if someone dares try to capture my soul in a picture, definitely don't do that dumbass open mouth faced, but scowl like some black metal creep >am awaiting my pure aryan future wife and mother of my children, don't sleep around and not into degenerate shit >have mostly blackpilled views and can't into reddit tier liberalism >don't smoke or ""vape"", or drink alcohol, or take psychiatric meds, or go to therapy >don't watch any popular tv shows >don't watch youtubers etc you can have a vegan diet and still be cool, relax",,Anonymous,1493838935514.gif,S+mRgOP+S+62chTsLnytGg==,US,,1515457568 156057903,156062253,2018-01-09 00:29:01,">>156057903 fuck off you aren't converting anyone",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1515457741 156057903,156062601,2018-01-09 00:33:34,">>156057903 veganism is a virtue signalling cult. Domestication of animals has made them genetic successes compared to their wild counterparts because they are insured survival and mass reproduction by humans. >better for your health i can get all my nutrients by living on an inuit diet if i really wanted to, the north american native american tribes were taller and more muscular because they got to eat more meat than their mesoamerican and andean counterparts who mostly ate corn and potatoes. >better for the environment an all plant agricultural society is not feasible with high populations because it needs a lot of farmable land and fuel which pollutes the air.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515458014 156057903,156063965,2018-01-09 00:52:32,">>156062601 being a genetic success doesn't mean shit if you're enslaved and abused your whole life",,Anonymous,ThumpingIndustryPractice1.webm,leXgGsu1D3Vp3qq1BA3oVw==,AU,,1515459152 156525451,156525451,2018-01-13 00:06:35,reminder that harming animals is subhuman behaviour,Vegan General,Anonymous,1515819977758.webm,2hUODwDgsGmfmxswG3J9DQ==,AU,,1515801995 156525451,156526546,2018-01-13 00:18:53,meatcucks need to hang,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1515802733 156525451,156526851,2018-01-13 00:22:36,">>156525451 >>156526546 I have 10 animals in a cage with no food right now. What r u gonna do about it Hao long?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1515802956 156525451,156527221,2018-01-13 00:27:40,">>156525451 Made in China",,Anonymous,1509864908244.gif,yLHH8yUC7lafkrEj/7xjeA==,US,,1515803260 156916806,156916806,2018-01-16 11:43:11,">2018 >still getting protein from meat >still getting cancer >still ruining arteries >still ruining hairline with creatine >still ruining skin with dairy >still ruining the environment for your children >still condemning animals to a life of misery get clean /pol/",Vegan General,Anonymous,1516120966266.png,8JvatG41w6LXCirRagxsGA==,AU,,1516102991 156916806,156917291,2018-01-16 11:49:38,"i see nothing wrong with growing your animals and eating much less meat jews are overfeeding us with meat and their (((industry))) quality and treatment of animals",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1516103378 156916806,156917341,2018-01-16 11:50:19,"slide thread http://russia-insider.com/en/its-time-drop-jew-taboo/ri22186",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516103419 156916806,156917367,2018-01-16 11:50:43,">>156917291 you'd still be increasing your likelihood of getting cancer",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516103443 156916806,156917647,2018-01-16 11:53:48,">>156916806 >Ruining skin with dairy Source?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516103628 156916806,156918021,2018-01-16 11:57:59,>>156917647,,Anonymous,Animal Products acne.png,YYLaxgEiOjuRucrfObyLJQ==,AU,,1516103879 156916806,156918108,2018-01-16 11:58:49,">>156912225 >>156912225 >>156912225 Our vegans got BTFO in our existing vegan/abortion/morality/freewill shitfest, please drop this thread and shitpost here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516103929 156916806,156919007,2018-01-16 12:08:48,">>156918108 looks like a bunch of fags talking about centuries old philosophy that contemporary philosophers sorted out already",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516104528 157341020,157341020,2018-01-19 23:43:20,">2018 >still getting protein from meat >still getting cancer >still ruining arteries >still ruining hairline with creatine >still ruining skin with dairy >still ruining the environment for your children get clean /pol/",Vegan General,Anonymous,1516423395856.jpg,kXshGS1xAPK7aDck/JNyBQ==,AU,,1516405400 157341020,157341232,2018-01-19 23:45:19,inb4 you can't get all the nutrients you need on a vegan diet,,Anonymous,Cronometer_Edit.png,h0BYG8AGC3LU45epJ4lk7Q==,AU,,1516405519 157341020,157341345,2018-01-19 23:46:29,">>157341020 >healthy couple >1 child >only replaces one of them sounds about right for vegans. they're the first to starve in a famine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516405589 157341020,157341451,2018-01-19 23:47:26,Who cares. I like steak. Fuck off.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516405646 157341020,157341685,2018-01-19 23:49:35,">>157341020 >Communist cock gobblers. There's room for all of God's creatures next to my mashed potatoes, cunt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516405775 157341020,157341862,2018-01-19 23:51:13,">>157341020 You got one thing right. I still get protein from meat. The rest is, i dont even know. Rumors. Uh. Bullshit. You know what you should try? Its a plant, so youll love it. Its called sage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516405873 157341020,157342400,2018-01-19 23:56:20,"I can understand not eating meat, but I have no clue why people wouldn't eat dairy. Dairy is the best source of protein anyways, much easier to absorb than any other type helps you grow too http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/80/4/1088.2.full http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/07/health/milk-children-height-study/index.html It contains IGF-1 and is one of the best sources of calcium out there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516406180 157341020,157342704,2018-01-19 23:58:41,">>157342400 >high igf1 >good thing having igf1 and exogenous hormones is exactly what you don't want",,Anonymous,1516424303203.jpg,Wyu4iNC2lNMkZHemTXfpQQ==,AU,,1516406321 157341020,157342705,2018-01-19 23:58:45,"Plant protein has different amino acid content compared to animal protein. Animal protein is the best protein for animals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516406325 157341020,157342893,2018-01-20 00:00:07,">>157342705 no, animal and soy protein raise igf1, which is bad",,Anonymous,Protein_supplements_estrogen_IGF1.png,+Lz1BnTm7B9h13YCZ1LK/Q==,AU,,1516406407 157341020,157343141,2018-01-20 00:01:47,">>157341020 Child abuse: the picture",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516406507 157341020,157343712,2018-01-20 00:06:25,">>157341020 Vegans should be sent to camps for reeducation. Those who can't be saved from their folly should be fed to the pigs.",,Anonymous,1516209045724.jpg,mMmHWKsh+VV0PIIYhgMg2Q==,US,,1516406785 157341020,157343719,2018-01-20 00:06:28,">>157342704 It can be a good thing in certain circumstances. Higher IGF-1 directly correlates with increased IQ levels http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4481164.stm Although elevated GH and IGF-1 both shorten lifespan, so theoretically it would not be good to have chronically elevated levels of GH and IGF-1 if you are older than 25ish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516406788 157341020,157343874,2018-01-20 00:07:56,">>157341020 Also, I guarantee I could have that bitch eating the meat on a regular basis.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516406876 157341020,157343906,2018-01-20 00:08:10,Always remember the age old saying; the bloodier the better,,Anonymous,this triggers the vegan.jpg,beeKKgCdWaUkWxOA8/eKbQ==,US,,1516406890 157341020,157344126,2018-01-20 00:10:07,">>157343719 refer to >>157342704 high circulating IGF1 suppresses GH production might explain why meatcucks are so stupid",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516407007 157341020,157344670,2018-01-20 00:15:07,">>157344126 did you even read my post >A Children of the 90s study by the University of Bristol found low growth hormone levels were linked to low IQ. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4481164.stm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516407307 157341020,157344806,2018-01-20 00:16:28,">>157341020 Take it to >>>/fit/ faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516407388 157341020,157344855,2018-01-20 00:16:53,">>157344126 Like I said, IGF-1 has its benefits, but it also has its faults",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516407413 157341020,157344945,2018-01-20 00:17:51,">>157343719 >news.bbc stopped reading right there",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516407471 157341020,157345109,2018-01-20 00:19:26,">>157341232 lol thank you I am saving this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516407566 157341020,157345257,2018-01-20 00:20:59,how would a diabetic be vegan?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1516407659 157341020,157345370,2018-01-20 00:22:14,">>157345257 by not eating animal products? I don't see the issue",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516407734 157341020,157345473,2018-01-20 00:23:17,">>157341020 That is one hot abused loli. I'd feed her my meat, if you know what i mean. I'd slip her my salami, if you catch my drift. I'd stuff my sausage in her, wink wink nudge nudge.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516407797 157341020,157345900,2018-01-20 00:27:27,">>157343906 Bloody meat is a poor and unsanitary compensation for not being able to properly season your steak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516408047 157341020,157346401,2018-01-20 00:32:03,">>157342400 Same ethical reason most vegans don't eat meat. 90% of the time the milk is from a cow in a shitty factory stall with a machine strapped to its udder every day, until its shipped to a different factory to be killed for meat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516408323 157341020,157346404,2018-01-20 00:32:05,">>157345370 What you're basically saying is ""by eating tons of carbs"", which is all veggies and fruits are. That is the exact opposite of what is good for diabetics.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516408325 157341020,157346517,2018-01-20 00:33:08,">>157341232 Why are vegans so adamant on completely overloading on micronutrients? Too much of it isn't a good thing. >Vitamin A - 617% RDA per day Holy shit.",,Anonymous,screenshot.1516426225.png,RWUmt/cVpojLEJu6erev4w==,US,,1516408388 157341020,157346541,2018-01-20 00:33:24,">>157345257 A diabetic can be vegan. You'll just take tons of insulin and die much earlier due to a rollercoaster of blood sugars.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516408404 157341020,157346749,2018-01-20 00:35:27,">>157341020 The cancer is from charred meats, preserved meats, and meat cooked/friend in polyunsaturated fats. Meat itself is good for you. Rare, grass fed steak, unburnt, is very healthy. Salmon. Eggs. Veganism is suicide",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516408527 157341020,157347168,2018-01-20 00:39:32,">>157341232 >232 carbs/day >healthy You do realize that sugar (what carbs turn into) is an inferior source of energy and are at the root of many modern health problems, right? Funny that you base your eating on unsubstantiated claims towards meat while actively ignoring the real science blaming sugar.",,Anonymous,1282177818658.jpg,XBQi+Dfhay+u0mYZ8n89Xw==,US,,1516408772 157341020,157347270,2018-01-20 00:40:33,">>157341232 >Still thinking RDAs are relevant >Still thinking all vitamin forms are equal >Not thinking about aminos >Not eating liver and bone broth >Pretending plant omegas are the same as fish >Thinking phytoestrogens are fine >Thinking fiber can't cause gut permiability >Constant state of legume and nut inflammation >Adding Omega 6 to diet intentionally Lol Lol Lol Fuck vegans and vegetarians. Dig your own grave, go on SSRIs, wonder where it all went wrong",,Anonymous,1516066002520.jpg,GbaZRuEv9snGQ6qItgXb5w==,US,,1516408833 157341020,157347320,2018-01-20 00:41:14,">vitamin b12 this kills the vegan",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516408874 157341020,157347472,2018-01-20 00:42:43,"fuck off you vegan poof, I smoke and drink and eat animal flesh. once I get cancer I am going to fucking find a bunch of vegans and kill them and cook them up and eat them before killing myself",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516408963 157341020,157347518,2018-01-20 00:43:07,">>157347168 no it isn't your body naturally uses glucose for energy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516408987 157341020,157347642,2018-01-20 00:44:25,">>157347320 No no they get it from exotic ""kelp"" grown in sewer water in India. Also contains 10,000% RDAs for Lead and Arsenic. Somehow shipping this across an ocean to whole foods in a cargo ship is more morally correct than eating an egg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409065 157341020,157347660,2018-01-20 00:44:35,">>157346517 don't worry, it's not the real vitamin A it's the carotenoid precursor, and the conversion rate to vit A is very poor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409075 157341020,157347848,2018-01-20 00:46:26,">>157341232 >eating 1200 calories of fucking kidney beans You know thats 3-4 cans worth, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409186 157341020,157347856,2018-01-20 00:46:28,">>157341020 Hitler was a vegetarian.",,Anonymous,FCD47108-7658-4849-9144-965511BA99BF.jpg,MUE4+YOzXF1vG3FI9ppj+g==,US,,1516409188 157341020,157347913,2018-01-20 00:46:55,">>157341020 >2018 >hunt, garden, forage, fish whole life >healthy as fuck because it takes more effort than bicycling to Wholefoods for a salad >3 kids healthy as fuck >wife healthy as fuck >will survive the collapse of civilization I'll miss the internet if a collapse happens but I won't starve like your faggot ass",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409215 157341020,157348037,2018-01-20 00:48:10,">>157347660 >poor absorption Wow you weren't kidding. Learn something new everyday.",,Anonymous,screenshot.1516427173.png,hrVZmeQw0uIYW/3h+JPqYA==,US,,1516409290 157341020,157348069,2018-01-20 00:48:30,">>157347856 >Hitler was a vegetarian. Hitler was a methed up faggot who rallied a nation of autistic scum to ruin the White race. Fuck you stormfag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409310 157341020,157348088,2018-01-20 00:48:38,">>157341020 Fuck off vegan cuck, i'll eat a fat pork chop if I want and there's fuck all you can do about it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516409318 157341020,157348106,2018-01-20 00:48:53,,,Anonymous,4C87248A-6C02-488F-A032-0ED1FD0EAFFC.jpg,CmNy1dJ0ZQ20DdCGZiHTyA==,US,,1516409333 157341020,157348122,2018-01-20 00:49:04,">>157347913 I just worked out who the Mormons are in my area and if shit ever goes down I will turn up at their houses and steal all their shit",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516409344 157341020,157348237,2018-01-20 00:50:27,">>157347856 And the faggot lost the war too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409427 157341020,157348257,2018-01-20 00:50:36,">>157341020 70% of Americans are overweight or obese. Weight is the number one comorbidity among ALL disease. Once we can get people to not gorge themselves on food, then we can split hairs about nutrition. There's nothing wrong with being vegan, it's just difficult (and often expensive) to do.",,Anonymous,1336306337284.jpg,hgvpl0+xmsVS/J9JQIaJCQ==,US,,1516409436 157341020,157348271,2018-01-20 00:50:48,">>157347320 If cows are vegans, then where do they get B12? Well water.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409448 157341020,157348320,2018-01-20 00:51:25,">>157347472 >Anon on asian wifiu pillow image site accidentally finds cure to cancer after eating vegans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409485 157341020,157348397,2018-01-20 00:52:14,">>157342400 total retard. Best Nutrient density is all plant foods.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409534 157341020,157348401,2018-01-20 00:52:16,2018 will be the year of the vegan,,Anonymous,Vegan_2018_Australia.png,XF5acYH9tHSj2FNc2SbfTg==,AU,,1516409536 157341020,157348463,2018-01-20 00:53:03,">>157348037 Worse if youre white. It explains why white vegans look like aids patients",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409583 157341020,157348490,2018-01-20 00:53:28,">>157341232 Yea only little twiglets burn 2k calories per day. Also look up Ketosis. You burn off all the stored protein removing nay negative effect of eating meat. >Having to eat dietary supplements Enjoy not absorbing anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409608 157341020,157348513,2018-01-20 00:53:43,">>157341020 I can't fucking do it. I have tried. I get sick.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516409623 157341020,157348534,2018-01-20 00:54:03,">>157343712 Hitler was vegetarian, plant based foods are more efficient than growing meat",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516409643 157341020,157348625,2018-01-20 00:55:04,I unironically would be OK with a fascist vegan/green revolution. It would openly deal with over population and dysgenics brought on by technology.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409704 157341020,157348646,2018-01-20 00:55:18,">>157341020 >mind comprised of new age sentimental baby thoughts embarrassing beyond belief",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409718 157341020,157348649,2018-01-20 00:55:20,">>157348122 I don't know about your country but in the US Mormons are armed to the teeth. They got pushed into Mexico and went to war with the cartels",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409720 157341020,157348674,2018-01-20 00:55:35,"i want to see fat people wearing the ""eat what elephants eat"" shirt",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1516409735 157341020,157348756,2018-01-20 00:56:32,">eat what elephants eat What a strange statement.",,Anonymous,thoughtful-oprah-220x162.gif,iTONe/U7TVZ0dkP0O3uEWA==,NZ,,1516409792 157341020,157348792,2018-01-20 00:56:53,"Humans evolved to possess canine teeth. We have digestive enzymes specifically purposed for digesting meat. Only complete retards will deny that humans have physiological characteristics specifically purposed for the consumption of meat. Veganism is unnatural. It's on the same level of transgenderism. I am not sure why more and more humans are adopting a pop culture that is determined to remove humanity from its natural form as much as possible",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409813 157341020,157348881,2018-01-20 00:57:54,">>157341020 >regressing in evolution Not even once",,Anonymous,0B867B01-C3AE-4C33-A77B-4E484C0F1D6C.jpg,RnWT/TKOJccwzJdfj29hnQ==,US,,1516409874 157341020,157348922,2018-01-20 00:58:24,">>157341232 >kidney beans for every meal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516409904 157341020,157348948,2018-01-20 00:58:40,">>157348649 they don't have guns or nothing here, though some of them are Maoris so they could probably beat me to death",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516409920 157341020,157349051,2018-01-20 00:59:46,>>157341020,,Anonymous,VeganTrigger.gif,EnTktjfy++3hqzaNUzGIsA==,US,,1516409986 157341020,157349377,2018-01-20 01:03:31,">>157348463 I've noticed that too. Symptoms of malnutrition are particularly manifest in vegans, especially the ones that consume a lot of sugar. I have a theory. With the increased ""health awareness""of future generations, a large minority will encourage the adoption of veganism. A lot of people will grow up underdeveloped since it takes a ton of due diligence to do it right, which most people won't do. We're going to see even more vegan manlets and womenlets from this down the road. If you thought soyboy was bad, this will be worse. When this happens, the only way to fix this will be to resurrect this meme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH9pk7hJwLQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516410211 157341020,157349426,2018-01-20 01:04:08,">>157348792 Literally don't even care, Schlomo. You can't trick me into getting a preventable disease and having to shit out thousands of burger bucks to pay for treatments. Not happening.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516410248 157341020,157349645,2018-01-20 01:06:38,">>157345900 Leave it to a burger to ruin a good steak. Better cover it in sauce, too, then burn that on the BBQ.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516410398 157341020,157349720,2018-01-20 01:07:26,">>157349426 No one is telling you to over-consume. You can enjoy meat and live a healthy life style. Regarding preventable disease, many vegans are malnourished and have iron deficiencies. However, these are avoidable by tracking your nutrition and making sure you are fueling your body correctly. Same thing that meat eaters should do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516410446 157341020,157349731,2018-01-20 01:07:34,">>157349645 ""I eat leaves"" is now a strange thing to say.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516410454 157341020,157349856,2018-01-20 01:08:55,">>157341020 lol fag",,Anonymous,my food when.webm,HCDHrnUBZO9pbX+oEPzKDg==,US,,1516410535 157341020,157350009,2018-01-20 01:10:40,">>157349720 >you can enjoy meat and live a healthy lifestyle see >>157349426 No shekels will be siphoned out of me",,Anonymous,CWm6KFRXIAEwlr5.jpg,NtnXwcu8Uchdu5EWtrrjNw==,US,,1516410640 157341020,157350010,2018-01-20 01:10:41,">>157346517 Supplements are very poor substitutes for proper nutrition. They don't work the same in supplement form (particularly Omega supplements), and so many morons go crazy with them thinking that more must mean better. Get your nutrition from a proper diet.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516410641 157341020,157350102,2018-01-20 01:12:03,">>157349731 Was that a joke, or..? Gotta work on the bantz if it was.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516410723 157341020,157350180,2018-01-20 01:13:10,">>157348401 Another reason our country sucks. But who the fuck is going to google beef? We just eat it instead.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516410790 157341020,157350265,2018-01-20 01:14:06,">>157350102 Wasn't a joke",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516410846 157341020,157350289,2018-01-20 01:14:22,">>157349856 Looks like Amy Schumer's vag",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516410862 157341020,157350336,2018-01-20 01:14:58,">>157349426 You are so stupid. Veganism is awful for your health unless you have eating disorder levels of attention to every gram that enters your body. If that's you, well, you can do the same and eat meat. The stupidity is astounding.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516410898 157341020,157350357,2018-01-20 01:15:18,">>157350289 Has the same amount of estrogen in it too",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516410918 157341020,157350447,2018-01-20 01:16:26,">>157350010 I hear this a lot. Cursory search shows that the body can only absorb so much and overconsuming inferior analogues to the best option is a complete waste of money, may deprive the individual of what they need, and is at best only for feelz and not realz.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516410986 157341020,157350480,2018-01-20 01:16:46,">>157347856 >>157348534 Hitler also fucked and murdered his niece he was a buttmad failed artist trying to virtue signal like a modern SJW faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516411006 157341020,157350531,2018-01-20 01:17:23,">>157341232 >relying on supplements just to sustain your faulty sense of idealism plants are just as alive as that cow was when we grinded it into meat, so really there is no point in going vegan to avoid consuming anything living, considering how you're going to have to one way or another eventually.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516411043 157341020,157350627,2018-01-20 01:18:28,">>157350336 Ja, I can count every single gram of cholesterol that I choke my arteries with until I die How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop but hard mode",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516411108 157341020,157350687,2018-01-20 01:19:22,"you again? lol can you give me a source meat causes cancer tho?",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1516411162 157341020,157350730,2018-01-20 01:19:59,"Veganism is a tool for agenda 21. It's so obviously a fake conspiracy for mass consumption. Explain B-12 if we can't have meat. Why do Indian vegetarians have genetic mutations resulting from their lack of meat increasing their cancer risk?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516411199 157341020,157350810,2018-01-20 01:21:01,"Also, METH is healthy forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2013/11/04/everything-youve-heard-about-crack-and-meth-is-wrong/#71099643226e",,Anonymous,Anal Cunt.jpg,1p8kE5eB2V5quLkfz5xzCA==,US,,1516411261 157341020,157350868,2018-01-20 01:21:37,">>157350627 This is the absolute state of vegans. Dietary cholesterol has little to with your 'cholesterol levels'. But I guess you base your entire diet off pseudo science so there's no point helping you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516411297 157341020,157351060,2018-01-20 01:23:58,">>157348490 ketosis is only ok with good fats most which are plant based fag Eat your bacon and watch you die in 10 years olive oil or salmon oil is much better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516411438 157341020,157351065,2018-01-20 01:24:00,>>157350810,,Anonymous,bender applause.jpg,kiWIrss4c8B3tPdIDEeIeg==,US,,1516411440 157341020,157351209,2018-01-20 01:25:44,">>157350868 they read lots of stuff on the interwebs tho, so it must be true vegans are generally 'self educated' about nutrition, which means no formal education or understanding at all about nutrition, food chemistry or biological pathways.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516411544 157341020,157351373,2018-01-20 01:27:39,">>157350730 What, it's literally the opposite of that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516411659 157341020,157351445,2018-01-20 01:28:19,">>157350810 rock. n. motha. fuckin. roll.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516411699 157341020,157351891,2018-01-20 01:33:45,"Vegans of 4chan discord discord .gg/WcQtBu",,Anonymous,1516430019429.jpg,KjV49cI0lR1fcK+9IMrSDA==,AU,,1516412025 157341020,157352165,2018-01-20 01:37:18,">>157341020 Paleo is superior and does not make you a Soyboy. Soy is forbidden in paleo. And, it actually heals all the diseases you listed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516412238 157341020,157352264,2018-01-20 01:38:38,">>157352165 it gives you cancer if it includes red meat",,Anonymous,heme_iron_cancer.png,37XhxqEDMBsULq9WNyoAPQ==,AU,,1516412318 157341020,157352624,2018-01-20 01:43:10,">>157352264 > it gives you No, it very mildly increases your risk. 99%+ of people who eat red meat will not get these cancers beyond the rate the general population (sans red meat eating) will. But I guess you get scared about a lot of things.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516412590 157341020,157352792,2018-01-20 01:45:21,">>157352624 you don't understand how rates work. A single person does not get cancer at a certain rate",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516412721 157341020,157352864,2018-01-20 01:46:08,">>157341020 why do you care about the environment eating meat won't stop it alone",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516412768 157341020,157353206,2018-01-20 01:50:30,">>157352864 it's not a black and white situation",,Anonymous,1516431026956.jpg,LKiPBp8dO5pUoN4WgUr46A==,AU,,1516413030 157341020,157353219,2018-01-20 01:50:43,">>157341020 We are primarily herbivorous, but opportunistic omnivores, this seems apparent to me just observing our physiology. I have cut out all red meat and chicken, as the biological value of the protein is fucking shit, and it sits in the human gut like sludge. Feel healthier and stronger than ever with a diet based on raw vegies (usually parsley, tomatoe, onion, capsicum, spring onion, spinach leaves) fruit dairy (milk and cheese) fish (salmon and whatever I can spear or catch) eggs every now and then. maximum nutrition for as little caloric value as possible. The more kilojoules you eat the faster you burn out the machinery. In the post apocalypse after the West collapses, I'll have no problems eating meat as it will be a survival situation, but even then, fish is healthier, and feels far easier to digest. I feel fit as fuck living with this diet. Alcohol and tobacco are for cucks btw.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516413043 157341020,157353565,2018-01-20 01:55:00,">eats vegan 6 days a week >goes to parents for sunday dinner every week >""anon, darling eat the cooked turkey"" >""fine, mom""",,Anonymous,1460623005667.png,knGz1BPFHVXY0LvxA1VNNA==,US,,1516413300 157341020,157353943,2018-01-20 01:59:37,">>157341020 I bet my life she cheats on that fucking soyboy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516413577 157341020,157354043,2018-01-20 02:01:00,">>157341020 I only eat animal products. Fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516413660 157341020,157354265,2018-01-20 02:03:56,suck my dick guys,,Anonymous,160606_TSF_BlogHero_01.jpg,D+twxqKGmA+xTQUzQJnoAw==,US,,1516413836 157341020,157354309,2018-01-20 02:04:25,>>157354265,,Anonymous,shutterstock_233300935.jpg,rxANpghYaWMbodf6LTo5Ag==,US,,1516413865 157341020,157354359,2018-01-20 02:05:04,">>157354309 do whatever you want. but you're a faggot and an idiot",,Anonymous,high-protein-foods-800x416.jpg,ENRIZ3TaXnLFaoz7E94/cw==,US,,1516413904 157341020,157354395,2018-01-20 02:05:27,">>157341020 >vegans not being mostly faggots to a few exception, there is a reason why you're perceived as a blight upon society. humans have canines, we evolved larger brains thanks to meat, in fact it's why it taste so fucking good. Also, a number of animal protein cannot be synthethised by humans and have to be ingested, and the supplement you tody-munching degenerates have to ingest come from animal sources. The reality behind it all, is that you're trying to justify being a bleeding heart, and you know it's not what you should be doing, which is why you're looking for fucking excuses. you know who else does that? faggots. >>>/lgbt/",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1516413927 157341020,157354418,2018-01-20 02:05:45,>>157354359,,Anonymous,protein1-717x440.jpg,5gzODJWQWZrIaWDwsNIOXA==,US,,1516413945 157341020,157354501,2018-01-20 02:06:47,">>157354395 >canines hahahahaha",,Anonymous,1516431995905.png,mNzdtfx3jz342olUL6baqQ==,AU,,1516414007 157341020,157354727,2018-01-20 02:09:56,">>157341020 Why completely skip eggs and seafood, tho? Algae oil, chia seeds and, God forbid, flax seeds are a valid but unappetizing choice for omega-3 fatty acids. The beef industry is an abomination, I'll give you that. I switched to almond milk already. Tasty stuff.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1516414196 157341020,157354974,2018-01-20 02:13:16,">>157341232 I can eat a 6 oz steak and get more iron from that than an entire room filled with spinach.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516414396 157341020,157355084,2018-01-20 02:14:40,">>157354727 Mercury, PCBs and creatine (if you're concerned about creatine increasing dht and making you bald early) some (ostro)vegans eat oysters since they're most likely insentient",,Anonymous,PCBs_in_sea_fauna.jpg,eSH1qy+spBNnOkX24VHtxw==,AU,,1516414480 157341020,157355279,2018-01-20 02:17:16,">>157354727 eggs are bad for cholesterol and are associated with cancer",,Anonymous,1516432631972.png,yg1nbi4iGy1iCxjFaIES+Q==,AU,,1516414636 157341020,157355486,2018-01-20 02:19:38,">>157352792 You were an arts student Anon, correct?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516414778 157341020,157355793,2018-01-20 02:23:36,">>157341020 Nique bien ta mère.",,Anonymous,5049-0w600h600_Saucisson_Sec_Aveyron.jpg,BfPlvsNSyBqIUYFXZeaakA==,FR,,1516415016 157341020,157355862,2018-01-20 02:24:37,">>157354727 supplements in general are a scam and do not work the same as nutrients in a proper diet do. https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/fish-oil-friend-or-foe-201307126467",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516415077 157341020,157356231,2018-01-20 02:29:51,">>157355084 >>157355279 I'm aware of the risks, but from a culinary perspective I'd rather not skip eggs. They're too vital in so many other recipes. And the eggs I get are from a farm down the street where chickens are free range. I measured the extracted cholesterol with UV-VIS at work and compared it to what you get from various supermarkets and the eggs have consistently ~60% the cholesterol that indoors chickens lay so I'm not too concerned about that either. You're alright, vegan-aussie.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1516415391 157341020,157356436,2018-01-20 02:32:43,>>157341020,,Anonymous,Pol is Vegan.jpg,tceBKL/j5+9F3o3m/0jzrg==,,,1516415563 157341020,157356581,2018-01-20 02:35:00,"If you want to avoid cancer, then there are tons of other things to quit before meat. How about you quit white sugar, alcohol and tobacco first? If you think eating a bag of processed white sugar candy is healthier than eating fried liver, containing tons of healthy vitamins and minerals, then you are delusional.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1516415700 157341020,157357095,2018-01-20 02:42:30,">>157341020 Your boy vegan gains got BTFO tonight!",,Anonymous,Kosher's We Have The Meat.jpg,pIUaBOonlxYWn4TnB/7qrA==,US,,1516416150 157341020,157357351,2018-01-20 02:46:25,">>157356581 sugar doesn't contain carcinogens",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516416385 157341020,157357969,2018-01-20 02:55:12,">>157350289 Only less bloody and more often visited.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516416912 157341020,157358055,2018-01-20 02:56:18,">>157351891 genetics",,Anonymous,,,,,1516416978 157341020,157358159,2018-01-20 02:57:37,>vegan,,Anonymous,ac9fcc4c0a1550dea66a368b0e763c3fa9b60034b0746229757b0688f9abc49f.jpg,eCMuTfbrojjpthS8nPNnhQ==,US,,1516417057 157341020,157358167,2018-01-20 02:57:43,">>157345900 Fuck off Shmuley. A steak is at its best when you slap the moo off it ass and toss it on a plate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516417063 157341020,157358527,2018-01-20 03:02:48,">>157357351 You are a fucking imbecile, holy shit neck yourself",,Anonymous,1516297388385.jpg,db2Gk1iwI4+FhbhqkyVMDw==,US,,1516417368 157341020,157359716,2018-01-20 03:19:20,">>157358527 highly intelligent statement",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516418360 157341020,157359821,2018-01-20 03:21:09,">>157341020 Y O S O B",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516418469 157341020,157359989,2018-01-20 03:23:29,">>157341020 Just watch this.",,Anonymous,vegan bambi.webm,i/uvWCDeejZwaNNeb4Hk3Q==,MX,,1516418609 157341020,157360056,2018-01-20 03:24:20,">>157341020 >for your children >/pol/ HAHAHahahahah",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1516418660 157341020,157360379,2018-01-20 03:28:51,">>157341020 >Eat What Elephants Eat no thanks, niggers upset my stomach. >>157341232 smoke some ice, all the energy you need.",,Anonymous,300x200xfeeding-an-elephant-320-214-13.jpg.pagespeed.ic.OlJzsd4zTq.jpg,L4v8I6P8RIeSpX45GDldkQ==,NZ,,1516418931 157341020,157360483,2018-01-20 03:30:08,">>157359989 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXhElaGCZVU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o6UxDD0lSM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnYNmGMsU18",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1516419008 157341020,157361699,2018-01-20 03:46:56,">>157349856 Looks fucking delicious but damn is that a big portion.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516420016 157341020,157361906,2018-01-20 03:49:50,">>157341020 Is it true that only herbavores get heart disease and that’s why we are herbavores?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516420190 157341020,157362100,2018-01-20 03:52:44,">>157341232 >getting 1200 kcals from kidney beans you must be fucking retarded",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1516420364 157341020,157362105,2018-01-20 03:52:48,">>157361906 It's true. The solution is to eat more meat.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516420368 157341020,157362224,2018-01-20 03:54:27,">>157341020 Will you moral fag to us about the poor animals? If yes, kill yourself, if not what are you doing here?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516420467 157341020,157362433,2018-01-20 03:57:27,">>157341020 Sorry but I'm not a pitiful midget sitting on his ass all day, I'm a growing man with a /fit/ lifestyle in need of proper sustenance.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1516420647 157341020,157362595,2018-01-20 03:59:56,">>157341020 Vegans are pussy faggot soyboys. Prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516420796 157341020,157362742,2018-01-20 04:02:04,">>157341232 >vitamins lmao here's a proper diet from an elite athlete https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SLvN5tFYEg",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516420924 157341020,157363136,2018-01-20 04:07:40,">>157341020 >2018 >butter >cream >cheese >bacon and eggs >lamb roast >medium rare steak >philly cheesesteak >beef wellington >bbq brisket and pork ribs >sashimi >bolognaise sauce >fish and chips cooked in beef dripping >veal schnitzel with pepper sauce >leather boots and belts >leather couch enjoy life /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516421260 157341020,157363181,2018-01-20 04:08:10,">>157362433 >thinks he's /fit/ >this uneducated lel",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516421290 157341020,157363302,2018-01-20 04:09:52,I am a meat eater and dont worry. I know vegans will rule the world one day. Progress. I respect your views.,,Anonymous,patton.jpg,Wr8r4bD87ArxiOHcEVZUkw==,US,,1516421392 157341020,157363336,2018-01-20 04:10:21,">>157355793 Oh yes how could I forget charcuterie,foie gras and caviar!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516421421 157341020,157363374,2018-01-20 04:10:54,Vegtables are toxic. Your liver filters them out. Just like all other toxins in food.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1516421454 157502940,157502940,2018-01-21 09:08:30,">2018 >still getting protein from meat >still getting cancer >still ruining arteries >still ruining hairline with creatine >still ruining skin with dairy >still ruining the environment for your children get clean /pol/",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,Height_Meat.png,sDsv77ETzS+LrMtRb38tbg==,AU,,1516525710 157502940,157503244,2018-01-21 09:12:50,based Aussie brah,,Anonymous,1516543967925.jpg,Lb9uAUk8Ppbmkh5N299tgA==,AU,,1516525970 157502940,157503335,2018-01-21 09:14:04,">>157502940 Right wing vegan of 10 years, checking in. Don't get gaslit by Amrimongs with their awful diet, we exist in bigger numbers than you think.",,Anonymous,Vegan pol.jpg,B7TEHujCRp5y08yCtk/Hvg==,GB,,1516526044 157502940,157503561,2018-01-21 09:17:11,">>157502940 the fact that there is a ""vegan"" thread on /pol/ explains a lot about your """"""dietary"""""" choices. having filet mignon for lunch btw.",,Anonymous,1511660159768.jpg,Szo6ukfcWTaYOHFvl9iMNQ==,CA,,1516526231 157502940,157503582,2018-01-21 09:17:28,">>157503335 it's an issue /pol/ is extremely cucked on",,Anonymous,Utopia_Jewtopia.jpg,UsgENj6nnFh83gFCDOtH1g==,AU,,1516526248 157502940,157503782,2018-01-21 09:20:21,">>157502940 >>still ruining the environment for your children Your wife's children.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516526421 157502940,157503799,2018-01-21 09:20:36,we will rise,,Anonymous,Vegan_2018_Australia.png,XF5acYH9tHSj2FNc2SbfTg==,AU,,1516526436 157502940,157504008,2018-01-21 09:23:12,You goys drink soy don't you?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1516526592 157502940,157504117,2018-01-21 09:24:37,">>157503561 >implying niggers > chickens kys",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516526677 157502940,157504155,2018-01-21 09:25:11,">>157504008 no",,Anonymous,Cronometer_Edit.png,h0BYG8AGC3LU45epJ4lk7Q==,AU,,1516526711 157502940,157504221,2018-01-21 09:26:08,">implying meat isn't the most nutrient-dense kind of food on the planet Kys soyboi",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516526768 157502940,157504549,2018-01-21 09:30:37,">>157502940 hey soiboi keto is the only redpilled diet",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516527037 157502940,157504570,2018-01-21 09:31:01,">>157504221 >implying it is",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516527061 157502940,157504717,2018-01-21 09:33:08,">>157502940 >questionnaire Into the trash it goes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516527188 157502940,157504736,2018-01-21 09:33:19,">>157504549 >implying vegan and keto are opposites",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516527199 157502940,157504753,2018-01-21 09:33:35,oh boy soy,,Anonymous,slender.png,DQbOwsvirgsQc1musK8fNQ==,US,,1516527215 157502940,157504882,2018-01-21 09:35:17,">>157502940 What I don't understand about veganism is that the Bible teaches very clearly that eating meats is a good thing. At one occasion the Bible even mocks those who only eat vegetables and calls them sissies... this seems to line up with reality to. It's not like God would command us to eat meats if it was harmful.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516527317 157502940,157504935,2018-01-21 09:35:58,">>157502940 Vegans should be genocided. Absolute subhumans the lot of them. >white-knighting for animals and bawwwing and threatening even children whenever there's animal's life or even feefees at stake >doesn't bat an eye when a dude gets slaughtered",,Anonymous,,,,,1516527358 157502940,157505002,2018-01-21 09:36:57,">>157502940 Why should humans treat animals like humans, we cant breed with them so they have innate less value than humans to humans. They are just resources to be used for our species survival.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516527417 157502940,157505076,2018-01-21 09:37:58,">>157503582 >dead niggers are okay >but dead animals aren't rly gets my noggin joggin",,Anonymous,,,,,1516527478 157502940,157505233,2018-01-21 09:39:50,">>157502940 you post this every night fuck off",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516527590 157502940,157505251,2018-01-21 09:39:58,">>157504882 >What I don't understand about veganism is that the Bible teaches very clearly that eating meats is a good thing. Only after the flood, when it was necessary. Adam and Eve were vegans before falling. >At one occasion the Bible even mocks those who only eat vegetables and calls them sissies... No >this seems to line up with reality to. It's not like God would command us to eat meats if it was harmful. What kind of benevolent god would give our food the capacity to suffer? >>157504935 >>threatening even children whenever there's animal's life or even feefees at stake >>doesn't bat an eye when a dude gets slaughtered literally what >>157505002 >Why should humans treat animals like humans We shouldn't treat them like humans, that doesn't mean we should eat them >we cant breed with them so they have innate less value than humans to humans. You can't breed because of your mug, should we eat you too? >They are just resources to be used for our species survival. No.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516527598 157502940,157505382,2018-01-21 09:41:51,">>157504882 literally causes cancer",,Anonymous,1516545677590.png,CL9laCGmcGryUMsrseeYxw==,AU,,1516527711 157502940,157505599,2018-01-21 09:44:39,">>157505251 none of those answers answered my point, vegans btfo",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516527879 157502940,157505701,2018-01-21 09:45:54,">>157505599 >none of those answers answered my point wrong >vegans btfo no",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516527954 157502940,157505820,2018-01-21 09:47:16,">>157505701 >we cant breed with them so they have innate less value than humans to humans refute this point. and pointing to individuals doesn't detract from the group.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516528036 157502940,157506247,2018-01-21 09:53:02,">>157505251 >No Yes, ""One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables"" (Romans 14:2). >What kind of benevolent god would give our food the capacity to suffer? We are here to dominate the animals. Animals don't matter. God gave us animals for our usefulness.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516528382 157502940,157506310,2018-01-21 09:53:48,">>157505820 I don't have to refute it because you don't have a point. You have made the baseless (and wrong) assertion that moral value is based on ability to breed. First you have to prove that moral value is based on that, then we'll talk. Until then, meatcucks btfo. >devil's advocate Let's assume that you do prove it (which you can't). What happens to pre-pubecent humans, post-menopausal humans, sterile humans, etc?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516528428 157502940,157506350,2018-01-21 09:54:26,Is the hairline thing true? j-just asking for a f-friend,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1516528466 157502940,157506430,2018-01-21 09:55:40,">>157506310 >First you have to prove that moral value is based on breeding, then we'll talk >implying there is an objective morality you are the vegan trying to change my mind. this is my moral framework. if you cant refute, veganiggers btfo eternally",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516528540 157502940,157506572,2018-01-21 09:57:35,">>157506247 “And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” —Genesis 1:30 “But Daniel resolved that he would not defile himself with the royal rations of food and wine … Then Daniel asked … ‘Let us be given vegetables to eat and water to drink.’ … At the end of ten days it was observed that they appeared better and fatter than all the young men who had been eating the royal rations.” —Daniel 1:8, 11–12, 15 “The wolf and the lamb shall feed together; the lion shall eat straw like an ox; but the serpent—its food shall be dust! They shall not hurt or destroy on all my holy mountain.” —Isaiah 65:25 “But ask the animals, and they will teach you; the birds of the air, and they will tell you.” —Job 12:7 “The righteous know the needs of their animals, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” — Proverbs 12:10 “He gives to the animals their food, and to the young ravens when they cry.” — Psalms 147:9 “I will make for you a covenant on that day with the wild animals, the birds of the air, and the creeping things of the ground; and I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land; and I will make you lie down in safety.” —Hosea 2:18 “How long will the land mourn, and the grass of every field wither? For the wickedness of those who live in it the animals and the birds are swept away, and because people said, ‘He is blind to our ways.'” —Jeremiah 12:4 “Are not five sparrows sold for two pennies? Yet not one of them is forgotten in God’s sight.” —Luke 12:6 “Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains, your judgments are like the great deep; you save humans and animals alike, O Lord.” —Psalms 36:6 “Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy.” —Matthew 5:7 >God gave us animals for our usefulness. Unrelated to my question",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516528655 157502940,157506631,2018-01-21 09:58:23,">>157506430 >>implying there is an objective morality I didn't >you are the vegan trying to change my mind. this is my moral framework. if you cant refute, veganiggers btfo eternally I did refute, read the last line again",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516528703 157502940,157506666,2018-01-21 09:58:54,">>157506350 yes, creatine raises DHT and causes balding",,Anonymous,creatine_dht.png,8zJwHWxJ0usoHZqc5+tW/g==,AU,,1516528734 157502940,157506767,2018-01-21 10:00:02,">>157505382 >X causes cancer Are they still pushing this meme? I've heard everything from passive smoking causes cancer (it doesn't) to burnt sausages cause cancer (they don't) to bacon causes cancer (it doesn't) and salt causes cancer (it doesn't). Maybe what (((they))) pump into the meat causes cancer, but the meat itself doesn't. Of course (((they))) aren't going to turn around and say that for obvious reasons. It's basically the same as saying guns kill people, when the gun doesn't kill anyone and it's people who kill people. Both are the exact same (((argument))) and both avoid actually saying the truth for the same (((reason))) - it would be detrimental to (((them))) and their (((interests))).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516528802 157502940,157506783,2018-01-21 10:00:17,">>157506430 I guess you would support the farming of infertile people then nice",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516528817 157502940,157506903,2018-01-21 10:01:39,">>157506767 are you retarded? burnt food does cause cancer I hope this is a joke",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516528899 157502940,157506959,2018-01-21 10:02:24,">>157506767 >passive smoking causes cancer (it doesn't) to burnt sausages cause cancer (they don't) to bacon causes cancer (it doesn't) you can't be serious",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516528944 157502940,157506991,2018-01-21 10:02:50,">>157506631 All those people may individually not be able to breed, but they belong to the group that DOES breed with itself. We don't make rules for exceptions. we make exceptions for exceptions. Or do you cry every time you step on a bug.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516528970 157502940,157507049,2018-01-21 10:03:39,">>157506572 Why are you quoting posts that have nothing to do with our current situation? Romans 14:2 clearly says that people who eat vegetables are weak, and Jesus says that anything that goes into the mouth for food can not defile you. Food laws don't exist for Christians. I have nothing against vegans -- in fact that Bible actually says ""As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him."" >Unrelated to my question Animal suffering doesn't matter in the eyes of God. Have made animals for us to use and eat.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516529019 157502940,157507235,2018-01-21 10:05:57,">>157506783 Why? they belong to the group of 'humans'? we don't make rules for exceptions we make exceptions for exceptions.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516529157 157502940,157507256,2018-01-21 10:06:08,">>157507049 still not answering my question. If there is an all powerful god that made us and the animals, and the animals were made for us to eat, why did he give them the capacity to suffer",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516529168 157502940,157507466,2018-01-21 10:09:05,">>157505382 That study makes an association right off the bat within a very small sample size without taking into account any other dietary factors to explain associations other than iron from non-meat sources. Just as the most blatantly obvious; what about their sugar intake? Any studies trying to assign associations to cancer are immediately bullshit without first eliminating sugar entirely from the sample.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516529345 157502940,157507483,2018-01-21 10:09:20,">>157507256 >why did he give them the capacity to suffer Pain is a mechanism used for survival, not just for the sake of feeling pain. The vast majority of animals are never captured and eaten by humans. If an animal is captured an eaten by humans, its suffering doesn't matter in God's eyes because they are not made in the image of God and were created to benefit humans.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516529360 157502940,157507569,2018-01-21 10:10:19,">>157502940 controlling for strictly religous parents who don't drink or smoke and eat a controlled diet that inclcudes eggs and milk but not meat versus state school parents is too difficult i think. Their kids may be taller naturally. Vegan versus vegetarian would be better",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516529419 157502940,157507583,2018-01-21 10:10:27,">>157507466 literally explains how it causes cancer stop deluding yourself",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516529427 157502940,157507634,2018-01-21 10:10:55,">>157507483 >The vast majority of animals are never captured and eaten by humans. This is incredibly wrong. 56 billion land animals per year and trillions sea animals",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516529455 157502940,157507665,2018-01-21 10:11:17,">>157502940 >ruining the environment for your children Pretty sure they'll be a lot more pissed about how you're stealing from them with debt, I know I am.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516529477 157502940,157507787,2018-01-21 10:12:52,">>157507634 God commanded the Israelites to slaughter and sacrifice animals to him. So obviously God doesn't care about animals suffering -- why do you care? >One person believes he may eat anything, while THE WEAK PERSON eats only vegetables.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516529572 157502940,157507914,2018-01-21 10:14:32,">>157502940 But why is your cock so flaccid then ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516529672 157502940,157507955,2018-01-21 10:15:03,">>157507583 No, it describes a THEORY of a possible association to two specific cancers but with almost no evidence to support it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516529703 157502940,157508049,2018-01-21 10:16:14,">>157507955 >almost no evidence kek",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516529774 157502940,157508135,2018-01-21 10:17:26,">>157507583 Eating processed foods causing cancer. Most meat people consume is processed. Stop being retarded on purpose and take a course on multivariate statistical analysis.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516529846 157502940,157508221,2018-01-21 10:18:27,">>157508049 Please summarize the evidence so that even an American can understand it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516529907 157502940,157508263,2018-01-21 10:18:55,">>157507256 Why did he create a world where we must eat to live?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516529935 157502940,157508406,2018-01-21 10:20:45,">>157507787 >>157508263 wow, almost like religion is (((their))) fabrication >inb4 le epic fedora meme",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516530045 157502940,157508539,2018-01-21 10:22:25,">>157508221 look at the meta analysis from the picture you brainlet http://cancerpreventionresearch.aacrjournals.org/content/4/2/177",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516530145 157502940,157508573,2018-01-21 10:22:52,"MUH MEAT There is not a SINGLE vitamin or nutrient that cannot come from vegetables Mushrooms have Vitamin D. I eat 500g of Mushrooms per day and despite never going outside literally have a fucking tan. The Calcium within cows milk contains a compound called 'Fractal Fiber'. This is how FRACtures get their name because it weakens bones. Essentially it is released from the body like fiber except via sweat so it scrapes along the bone. Vitamin B12 comes from fungus. If you soak your beans and split peas overnight in water mixed with riverbank sediment and cook them then this is pretty good and a better source of B12 than even meat Zinc is only necessary in high amounts if you ejaculate often. Vegans have been proven to have higher sexual tolerance and don't always get erections during sex because plants make it easier to prevent excess arousal. Therefore we don't need much Zinc As for Meat there are several very unhealthy nutrients it provides. Meat based Vitamin A sources contain 'Meat Corneas', basically when cows and pigs are shocked their eyes roll back and the corneas fall into the body and the Vitamin A from the eyes ends up in the meat in trace amounts. This causes blindness in meat cucks. Meat based Iron is called 'Heme Iron' which is a carcinogen Meat based Omega 3 fatty acids contain 'Fish Scale' a carcinogen Meatcucks are pathetic",,Anonymous,o-LENTILS-AND-LEGUMES-facebook.jpg,7gYnhZgDngKZp4UfE+0/dA==,GB,,1516530172 157502940,157508631,2018-01-21 10:23:32,">>157508406 Too bad you don't have any arguments left, lol. This meme fits perfectly for you heathen.",,Anonymous,1516479530506.jpg,Qpa5jR0QpwJTliFQcoJM9A==,SE,,1516530212 157502940,157508736,2018-01-21 10:24:54,">>157508631 Except you're the one who started the religious argument here >>157504882, not me",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516530294 157502940,157508839,2018-01-21 10:25:59,">>157508573 Nive try, meatcuck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1516530359 157502940,157508871,2018-01-21 10:26:31,">>157508736 Then you tried to use religion to prove YOUR point, despite being a fedora tipping atheist. Hypocrite.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516530391 157502940,157509065,2018-01-21 10:28:42,"vegans of 4chan discord .gg/92R9Aa",,Anonymous,tofu_fit_guy-20170930-0001.jpg,5sPpECjw7pG746i8OXos1Q==,AU,,1516530522 157502940,157509301,2018-01-21 10:31:39,">not eating the real human diet of all raw meat >not letting the meat sit out in the sun before you eat it >calling yourselves men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRKlBGszhY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoVt__-fuNw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLrPJdd4708 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy-R68CpeRY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516530699 157502940,157509370,2018-01-21 10:32:29,">>157508573 >Meat based Vitamin A sources contain 'Meat Corneas', basically when cows and pigs are shocked their eyes roll back and the corneas fall into the body and the Vitamin A from the eyes ends up in the meat in trace amounts. This causes blindness in meat cucks. You're literally insane, aren't you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1516530749 157502940,157509410,2018-01-21 10:32:57,">>157507787 >>157508406 It's almost like Yahweh was the one all along who wanted blood sacrifices, not Ba'al. Cain was a peaceful farmer, and Yahweh wanted followers who were murderous psychopaths.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516530777 157502940,157509524,2018-01-21 10:34:12,">Want to go vegan >The bacon jew and sugary drink jew is too much I'm sorry bros... go on without me...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516530852 157502940,157509545,2018-01-21 10:34:27,">>157509370 meat cuck can't read lmao",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516530867 157502940,157509578,2018-01-21 10:34:52,">>157509410 >Cain was a peaceful farmer >literally murdered his brother out of jealousy and was banished as a result Kinda like how all vegans are psycopaths deep inside.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516530892 157502940,157509667,2018-01-21 10:36:04,">>157507049 >>157507256 >>157507483 >>157508736 >>157508871 Lmao, what has religion to do with anything 2018. All non vegans who haven't tried it should kys. I laughed at soyboys a couple of years ago, since going vegan my lift has gone up, I have better mental focus, never get sick. i could go on and on. Never becoming a meat cuck again that's for sure. Get redpilled pol. Even Hitler was vegetarian. Why? BECAUSE HE READ SOME ROMAN BOOK ABOUT IT WHATEVER LMAO. Just try it faggots.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516530964 157502940,157509716,2018-01-21 10:36:36,">>157509578 Abel was the first murderer. Cain had a right to kill someone following such an evil doctrine. Does not your Jesus say to hate everything that is evil?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516530996 157502940,157509864,2018-01-21 10:38:16,">>157509667 No one should try veganism because it's stupidity pushed by leftist freaks who believe animal rights are more important than humans. It's hilarious how the Bible calls you weak sissies and you just embrace it.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516531096 157502940,157509958,2018-01-21 10:39:31,">>157502940 In 2018 scientific studies are considered harmful and so automatically discarded.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1516531171 157502940,157510001,2018-01-21 10:40:03,">>157509864 I don't give a shit what the (((bible)) said you shill fuck.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516531203 157502940,157510006,2018-01-21 10:40:09,">>157509716 Cain murdered his brother out of jealousy. Cain was trying to work his way to heaven to please God -- that's not how it works. You get to heaven through grace, not by trusting your own works. That's why Abel sacrificed a lamb instead, symbolic of Jesus Christ. ""Abhor what is evil and hold fast to what is good.""",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516531209 157502940,157510049,2018-01-21 10:40:35,">>157508135 So if you don't eat processed foods and only normal chicken / beef products while eating vegetables you're good?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516531235 157502940,157510094,2018-01-21 10:41:09,">>157510001 Go make some dreadlocks of your fag hair, jump around in some skirt and wear arm bands, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516531269 157502940,157510157,2018-01-21 10:41:51,">>157509864 The Kali Yuga age just (((coincidentally))) starts around the time of animal sacrifices. Makes you think.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516531311 157502940,157510295,2018-01-21 10:43:28,">>157510157 Sorry I don't believe in Babylonian mysticism so I don't follow fag Buddha terminology.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516531408 157502940,157510421,2018-01-21 10:45:09,">>157510295 >Dont believe in Babylonian mysticism Quotes the bible in every other post. Lmao.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516531509 157502940,157510467,2018-01-21 10:45:40,>vegan,,Anonymous,3a7.jpg,MXztlUkDDbbI/ici2Tj+4Q==,CA,,1516531540 157502940,157510541,2018-01-21 10:46:41,">>157502940 Absolute bullshit. Anyone who's ever seen a vegan kid knows better",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516531601 157502940,157510571,2018-01-21 10:47:06,">>157510049 Most likely yeah. I was just disputing the Aussie veganfags claim that meat causes cancer when his study only reveals that processed meat is linked to cancer. Go to a butcher, avoid salamis and anything prepacked and you're good.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516531626 157502940,157510653,2018-01-21 10:48:13,">>157510295 http://www.renegadetribune.com/hyperborean-frugivores/ >The oldest inhabitants of Greece, the Pelasgians, who came before the Dorian, Ionian and Elian migrations, inhabited Arcadia and Thessaly, possessing the islands of Lesbos and Lakemanas, which were full of orange groves. The people with their diet of dates and oranges lived on an average of more than 200 years. >The Arabs rushed into the country of Iran in great multitude… and their own irreligious law was propagated by them and many ancestral customs were destroyed, and eating of dead matter was put into practice. …From the original creation until this day, evil more grievous than this has not happened… >One who partakes of human flesh, the flesh of a horse or of another animal, and deprives others of milk by slaughtering cows, O King, if such a fiend does not desist by other means, then you should not hesitate to cut off his head. - Rig Veda >Herodotus tells us that the Egyptians subsisted on fruits and vegetables, which they ate raw. Plinius confirms this statement. Harold Whitestone, in his The Private Lives of the Romans, says: Of the Romans it may be said that during the early Republic perhaps almost through the second century B.C., they cared little for the pleasures of the table. They lived frugally and ate sparingly. They were almost strict vegetarians, much of their food was eaten cold, and the utmost simplicity characterized the cooking and the service of their meals. >Concerning the people of Thule: The people live on millet and other herbs, and on fruits and roots; and where there are grain and honey, the people get their beverage, also, from them. As for the grain, he says, – since they have no pure sunshine – they pound it out in large storehouses, after first gathering in the ears thither; for the threshing floors become useless because of this lack of sunshine and because of the rains.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516531693 157502940,157510821,2018-01-21 10:50:20,">>157510571 no....it still clogs your arteries, thus causing strokes, and heart disease. eat meat if you want so desperately to get a heart attack and or stroke, not my problem lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516531820 157502940,157510859,2018-01-21 10:50:44,">>157502940 fuck off fag",,Anonymous,1516304145024.webm,HCDHrnUBZO9pbX+oEPzKDg==,,,1516531844 157502940,157510871,2018-01-21 10:50:58,">>157510653 >The oldest inhabitants of Greece, the Pelasgians, who came before the Dorian, Ionian and Elian migrations, inhabited Arcadia and Thessaly, possessing the islands of Lesbos and Lakemanas, which were full of orange groves. The people with their diet of dates and oranges lived on an average of more than 200 years. This post killed all of your credibility.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516531858 157502940,157510955,2018-01-21 10:52:04,">>157510571 it was about heme iron look at the pic again brainlet >>157505382",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516531924 157502940,157511034,2018-01-21 10:52:47,">>157510871 Even your precious Bible says that people lived much longer lives in the times of long, long ago, until it decayed to about 80 years. Or, is your Bible not the ""literal word of God"" in those cases?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516531967 157502940,157511039,2018-01-21 10:52:51,">>157510821 Post proof or stfu. Eating meat in moderation alongside a healthy balanced diet limiting sugars is constantly proven as superior to any diet that restricts meat.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516531971 157502940,157511087,2018-01-21 10:53:23,">>157510821 What about agronomic practices that expose the soil to erosion, introduce pesticides and require annual fertilization to sustain. How is that better than letting a cow graze on native grass?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516532003 157502940,157511206,2018-01-21 10:54:43,">>157511034 Did that vegan diet kill your brain cells? I'm not the guy you were responding to.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1516532083 157502940,157511334,2018-01-21 10:56:14,">>157511039 >1 inch shorter > superior lel",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516532174 157502940,157511621,2018-01-21 10:59:47,"Dairy and eggs are non-heme. If someone has hemochromatosis they can't absorb from vegetables as well as meat so they end up with iron deficiencies. And the top non-heme foods are lentils and soybeans bugman. Heme iron contributes to these conditions because the body treats the two forms of iron differently when consumed. It can control the absorption of non-heme iron from plant-based sources, but not from meat. As a result, the body can’t easily dispose of excess iron, so the excess amounts are stored in your organs and blood cells, leading to increased risk of serious health concerns.",,Anonymous,1487928023434.png,oLzVAu0TJJi7trRqMw9M2Q==,US,,1516532387 157502940,157511722,2018-01-21 11:01:09,">>157511087 >he thinks grass fed beef is anywhere close to covering demand",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1516532469 157502940,157511769,2018-01-21 11:01:48,">>157511621 eggs still cause cancer because they contain choline dairy turns you into a faggot with estrogen",,Anonymous,Eggs_cancer.png,NM0p7oRZgOZHQ/awC2ReaQ==,AU,,1516532508 157502940,157512072,2018-01-21 11:05:28,">>157510859 >this kills the vegan",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1516532728 157502940,157512099,2018-01-21 11:05:47,">>157502940 >ruining the environment you are kidding with this one, right? vegetable production is the single most environment-destroying food production system in the world.",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1516532747 157502940,157512126,2018-01-21 11:06:04,">>157511769 Cauliflower, cabbage, bok choy and broccoli, boast around 65 mg of choline per cup cooked. Soy lecithin contains choline and other molecules, including fatty acids, glycerol and phosolipids. ... Some research shows that soy lecithin may be even more harmful than this, and can produce long-term negative effects, including poor reflexes, pain, slow metabolism, and nerve dysfunction.",,Anonymous,epikbattle.jpg,JKgupz7BU+izY2cVuT9JTg==,US,,1516532764 157502940,157512372,2018-01-21 11:09:03,">>157511769 Why is every example you're posting reductio ad absurdum. Eating 24 eggs a week is obviously unhealthy and does not prove that being a vegan is healthier, it just proves that you lack an elementary education",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516532943 157502940,157512422,2018-01-21 11:09:39,">>157512126 a single egg contains 110mg",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1516532979 157502940,157512579,2018-01-21 11:11:32,">>157502940 You faggots can't have dairy? Sucks for you. I get 20% of my calories from irradiated cow's milk and my skin has never had problems. If you guys would listen to facts and real science, your realize how stupid veganism is. You might even begin to think it was a movement designed to weaken a population while increasing profit margins",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516533092 157502940,157512726,2018-01-21 11:13:19,">>157512422 The upper limit for choline is 3,500 mg a day. Can you fuck off already?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516533199 157502940,157512756,2018-01-21 11:13:34,">>157508573 >Mushrooms have Vitamin D. I eat 500g of Mushrooms per day and despite never going outside literally have a fucking tan. That's not how it works retard",,Anonymous,1510994876939.png,5cXZA9b5Z02jSLhDjXtK3g==,AU,,1516533214 157502940,157513212,2018-01-21 11:18:48,">>157511722 So you wish to plow up said grass and plant soybeans? Are they round-up ready beans? How many tons of calcium carbonate is required to maintain proper soil pH? Will you irrigate them? Not saying veggies are evil, they are not. But I'm the real world, everything has positive and negative impacts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516533528 157502940,157513324,2018-01-21 11:19:58,">>157513212 Both meat eaters and vegans know the most efficient way of feeding ourselves is crickets / insects.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1516533598 157502940,157513347,2018-01-21 11:20:14,">>157508573 >>Mushrooms have Vitamin D. I eat 500g of Mushrooms per day and despite never going outside literally have a fucking tan. That's jaundice lad, your liver is shutting down. Get to hospital asap",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1516533614 157502940,157513692,2018-01-21 11:24:15,">>157513324 Now this is something I can get behind. Quit eating meat eat insects and veggies. Best diet. Seriously. A serving of cricket powder is two tablespoons (12 grams) and contains about: 55 calories. 0.8 grams carbohydrates. 7 grams of protein",,Anonymous,,,US,,1516533855 158914153,158914153,2018-02-02 02:39:56,"What is it about vegans that piss people off? The purpose of a vegan is to become a better, healthier human being that limits the damage he causes to mother earth. What is it about this that instinctively pisses a lot of people off? Is it because of the stereotype that vegans look weak and wimpy? How exactly does that affect you in any way shape or form? Hell in any case its a good thing because its less competition for you to find a mate and me alpha. I understand some vegans are smug but there is always bad apples in any group. This goes beyond that. Even the non smug vegans are constantly bombarded with hate. Has society become so sick and brain dead that trying to stop animal pain and suffering is somehow infuriating to everyone else? Or is it because it challenges the status quo and deep down meat eaters know that their habits may not be the best?",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,bec2caddee6045faf5465256ba4163e7--go-vegan-vegan-food.jpg,UYsxcxgkkjoho5wWL0xbYA==,US,,1517539196 158914153,158914178,2018-02-02 02:40:21,>>158914153,,Anonymous,2.png,4LTR5m+D0Flwi93i7z+WyQ==,US,,1517539221 158914153,158914189,2018-02-02 02:40:30,">>158914153 Cultured meat grown in labs is the final solution to the factory farming problem",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517539230 158914153,158914255,2018-02-02 02:41:15,"Boy, you aint right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517539275 158914153,158914334,2018-02-02 02:42:17,">>158914153 It's utterly fucking retarded... Oh and FYI I remember seeing Moot now, he was in my apartment selling squid pounds of herb and bags of pills",,KINGofKINGS RYAN ALLEYEN ABUnDIS,,,,,1517539337 158914153,158914355,2018-02-02 02:42:32,">>158914153 Hahaha",,KINGofKINGS RYAN ALLEYEN ABUnDIS,,,,,1517539352 158914153,158914458,2018-02-02 02:43:58,">>158914189 That would honestly be acceptable. Even though all non industry backed research points to a plant based diet being optimal for a human being, if you could grow synthetic meat without hurting any animals then I wouldn't mind people harming themselves with their diet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517539438 158914153,158914509,2018-02-02 02:44:36,Lol and I remember Brian Hayes calling him gucci short for gucifer...fagggot fake white hat...187 guccifer 1.0 and 2.0 deep state,,KINGofKINGS RYAN ALLEYEN ABUnDIS,,,,,1517539476 158914153,158914571,2018-02-02 02:45:29,">>158914153 would you still be a vegan if plants screamed when you killed them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517539529 158914153,158914595,2018-02-02 02:45:52,">>158914153 Humans cannot digest cellulose. Humans have canine teeth.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517539552 158914153,158914674,2018-02-02 02:46:59,">>158914153 veganism is a mental disorder the human brain is comprised of 60% fat the major flaw in a vegan diet is that the Omega fatty acids are required for the human body to properly operate. Vegan diet causes brain deterioration Vitamin A, E and K are ANIMAL fat vitamins. Vitamin D is an animal hormone",,Anonymous,DSC_0089.jpg,7g68Ly2o6PxcLCluUBWUQw==,US,,1517539619 158914153,158914680,2018-02-02 02:47:02,">the number of workers in that chicken factory, that egg-laying factory--is 2 (two). So there's two people who are overseeing 800,000 chickens that are laying a quarter of a billion eggs a year--",,Anonymous,eggs.jpg,QEX32b6hFrRgVw0U+gxFyQ==,CA,,1517539622 158914153,158914695,2018-02-02 02:47:14,">>158914153 1. It's not actually healthy, you cannot acquire B12, certain fats and proteins necessary for a balanced diet 2. Spread misinformation and pseudo-science, such as the 'healthy myth' and stuff like 'humans are herbivores hurr durr'",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517539634 158914153,158914767,2018-02-02 02:48:21,">>158914571 Yes. Because its not just about the pain and suffering that you cause with your diet, its also about the level of intellect of the thing you are hurting. Pigs are about as smart as a 2 year old and certainly smarter than a plant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517539701 158914153,158914768,2018-02-02 02:48:22,">>158914153 any good resources for recipes? I want to eat tasty food and i like stuff like chili and french fries but i want to eat vegan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517539702 158914153,158914810,2018-02-02 02:48:54,">>158914458 >all non industry backed research points kek'd",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517539734 158914153,158914817,2018-02-02 02:48:56,,,Anonymous,5xQequ8.jpg,a+HC1nJI6ATUXq3MejzHMg==,US,,1517539736 158914153,158914845,2018-02-02 02:49:18,">>158914153 can a Vegan swallow cum? asking for a friend",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517539758 158914153,158914918,2018-02-02 02:50:10,">>158914153 >mother earth This is what I fucking hate about vegans. You're anthropromorphising the planet. It's not your ""mother"", it doesn't have feelings, and it's not a sentient being. It's a ball of rock spinning around a more minor star in the backwaters of the galaxy. It's our home, and the things that grow on it are our food. Vegan as a diet is a useful tool, I do periods of it for a variety of reasons - mostly that I love vegetables. But I also love meat. There is no 'mother earth"" judging me for eating a steak, or a lion eating a gazelle. It's this childish, woo woo hippy bullshit that makes me disregard vegans as a group. Most of them are doing it purely to virtue signal, and they can all go fuck themselves - and you can too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517539810 158914153,158914958,2018-02-02 02:50:51,">>158914695 Vitamin B12 is actually just bacteria found in soil. Animals consume said soil and that's how it ends up in their meat and eventually in us. If you're so worried about B12 just don't wash your vegetables once in a while. You will get more than enough. Vegans on average live longer than meat eaters and suffer from far fewer ailments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517539851 158914153,158915017,2018-02-02 02:51:44,Hi guys welcome to vegan general~~~,,Anonymous,TWGsHBO_.jpg,M0Ofsoa2FFdf2OVGw7T2sA==,CA,,1517539904 158914153,158915061,2018-02-02 02:52:20,">>158914767 Pigs are delicious, too. Veganism is a choice of a society so rich in food people can choose not to eat one kind. If the shit hits the fan, these vegan picky eaters and spoiled children are going bye bye fast.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517539940 158914153,158915175,2018-02-02 02:53:48,">>158914918 Earth is a very complex symbiotic interconnected structure and we have to take care of it if we want to preserve our home. It is our duty if we wish to preserve human life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540028 158914153,158915222,2018-02-02 02:54:29,">>158914153 >What is it about vegans that piss people off? You won't shut up about how great you think you are and how following your meme diet makes you so much better than everyone else.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540069 158914153,158915242,2018-02-02 02:54:52,">>158914958 Modern American diet is a plant based diet. All oils, majority of fats, majority of calories come from plants. Vitamin b12 exists in healthy soil. Not monoculture pesticide destroyed soil the average person eats. Reminder every vegetable you eat is a man made creation, most created within the last few decades. Most things you eat today, no one before you ever ate",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540092 158914153,158915250,2018-02-02 02:55:01,">>158914918 Protecting the environment, limiting the chances of antibiotic resistance are important though, because we rely on the environment to be stable and healthy. Even if you ignore ethics entirely, it is logical to eat less meat if you are concerned about dead zones, pesticides (as animals need their own crops), CO2 and methane emissions etc.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540101 158914153,158915252,2018-02-02 02:55:02,What pisses me off about Vegans is that they have to constantly talk about being Vegan. I'm vegetarian but don't steer every fucking conversation into how awesome I am for what I eat.,,Anonymous,72c.jpg,n1cs/U2WJH60WVT+/qqRfw==,US,,1517540102 158914153,158915316,2018-02-02 02:55:38,">>158915061 That may be true even though raising crops is much cheaper and faster than raising a farm animals, but for the sake of your argument, doesn't it make you a terrible human being to be able to limit the impact you have in the world, yet still choose to be irresponsible? Or do you live in Africa and have no choice?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540138 158914153,158915357,2018-02-02 02:56:22,">>158915175 >Earth is a very complex symbiotic interconnected structure That includes animals eating each other.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540182 158914153,158915381,2018-02-02 02:56:48,">>158915242 can you get b12 from vitamin pills?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540208 158914153,158915390,2018-02-02 02:56:53,">>158914845 Had a vegan girlfriend. She did.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517540213 158914153,158915457,2018-02-02 02:57:51,">>158915242 >Most things you eat today, no one before you ever ate This is just plain false. Maybe educate yourself before making such claims. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/human-ancestors-were-nearly-all-vegetarians/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540271 158914153,158915499,2018-02-02 02:58:20,">>158914153 >Exercise >Eat healthy >Die anyway",,Anonymous,1514956027037.png,Rwz9+pWaAL71hKifjuMZqg==,AU,,1517540300 158914153,158915575,2018-02-02 02:59:31,">>158915357 Yes animals who are natural carnivores. Tell me, if humans were meant to eat meat, how come we have to cook it for fear of catching a disease? Does a lion cook its meat? How come we have to spice it to make it taste good? Does a lion marinate his meat? Why are our intestines so much different than any other carnivore on planet earth?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540371 158914153,158915576,2018-02-02 02:59:30,">>158915457 Can your body break down cellulose? If the answer is no, you're not a herbivore.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540370 158914153,158915591,2018-02-02 02:59:42,">>158914153 You'll actually absorb more nutrients by having meats with your vegetables. If we're aiming for optimal health, veganism introduces risks for malabsorption and deficiencies. A keto diet with high nutritional density foods (veggies, seeds, nuts) and high quality meats and fish, as well as eggs, and oils, with a healthy balance of fats, will net better health factors than veganism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540382 158914153,158915596,2018-02-02 02:59:47,">>158914153 >I understand some vegans are smug but there is always bad apples in any group. Psychopathy and mental illness is dramatically over-represented among vegans. Look up any vegan youtube channel. Durianrider? The first and most prominent vegan on youtube? ABsolute psychopath pedophile rapist who did things like campaign to stop people from donating to a woman's online fund drive so she could have a cancer operation, and then continuing to say she was a liar after she was dead. Vegan Gainz? Actual schizophrenic with obvious emotional problems who got catfished by some dude in Eastern Europe who pretended he was a cute girl who was going to marry him. Actual schizos aside, every single popular vegan youtube channel is mostly a drama blog about other vegans not being real vegans, or about other vegans who are having fights about who's not a real vegan. They're all psychopaths. Psychopaths seek to hide their psychopathy. Veganism - an ideology that's all about showing off how compassionate you are, and a culture full of extremely naive young retards to prey upon - is a psychopaths dreamland. Veganism is also very obviously fraught with conceptual and moral problems since you will always have to arbitrarily draw a line somewhere as to what counts as sentient, and unless you grow all your own food and never buy groceries from a store, you cannot avoid all foods that involve the death or suffering of animals in their production. Harvesting combines kill loads of animals. So store bought, ground-grown produce of any kind is not vegan. Any vegetables grown with animal manure or animal sourced fertilizers is also off the table. Also, what about bugs? What about microbes? What about the fact that there's research suggesting plants have some kind of sentience?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540387 158914153,158915600,2018-02-02 02:59:53,">>158915575 see >>158915576",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540393 158914153,158915638,2018-02-02 03:00:26,">>158915499 It's not healthy, humans cannot digest cellulose, have you ever seen a vegan power-lifter or Olympian? (((They))) want you weak, gay bombed and without a chance of being laid",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540426 158914153,158915766,2018-02-02 03:02:20,">>158914153 >implying when eating plants you are not ending a life form just as much when eating an animal retarded pic >What is it about this that instinctively pisses a lot of people off? >hyposcrisy >annyoing as fuck about what they eat, just like faggots parading their faggotry around >99% leftist >unhealthy",,Anonymous,,,,,1517540540 158914153,158915774,2018-02-02 03:02:24,">>158914153 I don't know, maybe it's because you people are legit self righteous cult members who use pseudoscience and aggressively try to convert people into eating a plant based diet only because you believe that animals are humans.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540544 158914153,158915818,2018-02-02 03:02:58,">>158915638 He's saying be as ""healthy"", try every health tactic ever be as fit as you can and you still will die. Might as well smoke drink and eat yourself crazy your only shaving a few years off in the end",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540578 158914153,158915820,2018-02-02 03:02:58,">>158915457 Hahaha tell me all about how your great great grand parents ate avocado's and bananas! Tell me how they loved their tropical fruits! You are a joke man. Humans only became ""vegetarian"" because of Agricultural Revolution. Prior to that it was a meat based, organ rich diet. Plant diet is and was used to create populations of slaves. Majority of plants eaten today are GMO kike designed profit plants created in a lab for kikes profit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540578 158914153,158915890,2018-02-02 03:03:44,">>158915175 Fuck off, hippy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517540624 158914153,158915931,2018-02-02 03:04:18,">>158915576 I don't see how an animal that is herbivorous but does not digest cellulose is somehow not herbivorous. Can you please elaborate?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540658 158914153,158915957,2018-02-02 03:04:42,">>158915250 I said nothing against any of that. I'm just saying I hate the hippy dippy bullshit that goes with veganism. It's the shit that's making you respond.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517540682 158914153,158915992,2018-02-02 03:05:09,">>158915381 Not sure. In case of animal vitamins, co inhibitors are not the same as vitamins. For example in the most healthy adults only 5% of beta carotene is converted",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540709 158914153,158916003,2018-02-02 03:05:17,">>158915316 Eating a steak has literally no impact on the earth, you fuckwit wannabe hippy shithead.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517540717 158914153,158916025,2018-02-02 03:05:36,">>158915390 did you tell her she was exploiting you for protein gains?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517540736 158914153,158916045,2018-02-02 03:05:56,">>158915820 Nice sources and strawman bro",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540756 158914153,158916047,2018-02-02 03:05:55,">>158915575 >>158915931 humans are omnivores fucktard. We are meant to eat both meat and vegetables.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517540755 158914153,158916120,2018-02-02 03:07:04,">>158916047 Refer to this >>158915575",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540824 158914153,158916142,2018-02-02 03:07:17,">>158915931 Cellulose is fibre. It's where the vast majority of a planet's energy as a food is. If you can't break it down, you can't get at that energy. This is how herbivores survive off nothing but grass. You're not a herbivore.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540837 158914153,158916213,2018-02-02 03:08:24,OP here. Do you guys see my point now? The very thing that happens every time someone mentions the V word hate just comes spewing out of the walls,,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540904 158914153,158916252,2018-02-02 03:08:56,">>158915992 thank",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540936 158914153,158916258,2018-02-02 03:09:02,">>158916213 >Be a faggot >Get called a faggot >Cry",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540942 158914153,158916301,2018-02-02 03:09:33,">>158915820 considering how unhealthy the average person is a shift to much more plant based diets would be an improvement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517540973 158914153,158916309,2018-02-02 03:09:40,">>158914153 Same attitude as transexual >Be mentally ill >Bother as many people with it as you can despite it being a personal thing >Try your hardest to ruin lives of people who points out the fact you're ill, annoying or commit the sin of not giving you their attention Just keep it to yourself.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1517540980 158914153,158916317,2018-02-02 03:09:44,">>158916120 we are capable of eating both, not just one or the other. That is what makes someone omnivore and not vegetarian or carnivore. You don't even know what these terms mean for God's sake. Sure we are not carnivores either",,Anonymous,,,,,1517540984 158914153,158916324,2018-02-02 03:09:51,">>158916047 yet we are incapable of digesting the cell walls of all plants, why do you think corn comes out intact?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517540991 158914153,158916359,2018-02-02 03:10:14,">>158914674 1 cup of kale >1180% vitamin K > 98% vitamin A 1/4 cup of sunflower seeds >82% of recommended DV of vitamin E",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541014 158914153,158916378,2018-02-02 03:10:29,">>158916045 Look up what type of bananas were eaten 60 years ago by native tropical people, and then compare that to what is eaten now. Now compare that to the non domesticated plant found in nature. This is on a larger scale. The strains of plants you eat today, probably did not even exist when you were born. If you eat GMO this is 100% the case. The point about avocados is that the majority of the vegans in the world are not from Mexico, their ancestors never had avocado's. And yet every vegan eats one avocado if not more per day. It is an unnatural diet used by rich snobs putting themselves into a controlled state of malnutrition. Why? Because they can afford too do it for the animals feels",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541029 158914153,158916429,2018-02-02 03:11:09,">>158916213 >oy vey see what i mean? everytime the proud chosen people of God, the Israelites, the Jewish people are mentioned, oy vey there's a wave of HATE and anti-semitism!! >nothing to do with jews or the way they act. No way goy Do you understand? Read: >>158915596 The ideology is a natural draw for predatory personality types that people hate for good reason.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541069 158914153,158916438,2018-02-02 03:11:19,">>158916359 >I understand how vitamins work",,Anonymous,1516464921947.jpg,dwg69s0cbTO3D6MSOk38vQ==,US,,1517541079 158914153,158916480,2018-02-02 03:11:54,">>158914153 threads like this.",,Anonymous,fml.gif,Es/4xNe6+Z/JqxHoFnFWQw==,BE,,1517541114 158914153,158916484,2018-02-02 03:11:58,">>158916213 because you make idiotic points. Do you want to eat only vegetables? Fine that is your choice. Do not push it on kids that are growing up though, and let them develop correctly. Also stop parading what you eat, it's the same thing that make faggots unbearable: they become obnoxiously loud about what makes them ""special""",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541118 158914153,158916507,2018-02-02 03:12:20,">>158916213 Because when it's promoted as a method of achieving optimal health, it's a lie It probably feels better for people since they're cutting out harmful foods and replacing them (generally) with less processed foods, but that isn't to say the same person wouldn't be healthier keeping a diet rich in nutritious vegetables while adding natural meats, fish and eggs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541140 158914153,158916528,2018-02-02 03:12:39,">>158914153 militant vegans piss people off. the peta crowd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541159 158914153,158916531,2018-02-02 03:12:42,">>158916045 How are lower income families supposed to support a vegan diet for their families? Aside from eating oatmeal 3 times a day, how could they survive?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541162 158914153,158916607,2018-02-02 03:13:48,"""The purpose of a vegan is to become a better, healthier human being"" But most vegans are neither healthy or good humans despite their ""purpose""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541228 158914153,158916619,2018-02-02 03:13:53,">>158916324 herbivores are not naturally capable of digesting cellulose either. Only a particular bacteria present in their digestive apparatus can break it down",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541233 158914153,158916625,2018-02-02 03:14:00,">>158916142 The cellulose argument isn't actually as strong as you make it out to be. Ruminants (like cows) indeed are able to digest cellulose and take nutrients from it. Humans are able to break down the cellulose cell walls and get at the nutrients in the cell core. Yes, we do not completely digest the plant, we reach about 90%",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541240 158914153,158916630,2018-02-02 03:14:05,">>158916213 Found a picture of you.",,Anonymous,Anon.jpg,T4XJOGA/+vndLb3j7SiGjA==,US,,1517541245 158914153,158916653,2018-02-02 03:14:21,">>158916438 Yeah it's really hard. Vitamin B and C are water-soluble, so you need them daily. The others are fat soluble are stored in the liver and don't require constant replenishment.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541261 158914153,158916656,2018-02-02 03:14:23,">>158914153 Vegans confuse a highly restrictive diet with a panaceea. Our society is not and will not be ready to stop eating meat without mass famine and malnutrition. Veganism is problematic for women as they are more sensitive to malnutrition and children as they grow. I know no benefit of restrictive diets unless an actual medical imbalance demands one. It's a poor form of self-medication with adverse effects.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541263 158914153,158916753,2018-02-02 03:15:41,">>158916301 Majority of people eat plant based. No one cooks in animal fat. 100% plant fat. Majority of empty calories come from bread or other empty carb/ grain products.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541341 158914153,158916772,2018-02-02 03:15:54,">>158914153 I think this poem sums it up : >'Hey, waiter! >what do you call this tepid bilge? >I asked for coffee, >a thick, hot, black triple shot >of high-grade, fully-leaded >amphetamine beans, >caffeine to spasm the heart >and split the skull. >And if it's gotta be tea, none of that dishwater - >four bags, and let 'em stew good'n'long, >to a brackish black tannin that eats teeth, >coz I like it strong. >Of course I want sugar! - six, eight, ten ... >just open the bowl and start pouring, >I'll say when, >none of that saccharin crap. >And screw that fat-free-skim-soy hippie spittle, >give me real milk, real full-fat cow, >just plonk in the udder and start squeezing. >Heart-foundation-approved lean meat be dammed! >I want a big bloody steak >oozing fat and gristle, >with a side-dish of extra dripping. >I like it deep-fried, battered and basted - >oily duck, chicken with skin you could >ring through a mangle; >murderous German sausages - >Kranski, Bratwurst; >artery-strangling cabanossi, >pig with crackling thick as a door mat. To be continued",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517541354 158914153,158916791,2018-02-02 03:16:11,">>158916484 If by develop correctly you mean catch diabetes at an early age, most likely be overweight and with plaque in their arteries at ages as young as 4 or 5 and shorten their lifespan by an average of 15 years, than maybe we don't share the same definition of ""developing correctly"". There's a reason why most of the first world is sick and taking so many pills in todays day and age. Its the FOOD",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541371 158914153,158916853,2018-02-02 03:17:03,">>158916625 Incorrect, cows have 8 stomachs and dedicated bacteria and fungi. You will shit out corn whole.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541423 158914153,158916854,2018-02-02 03:17:04,">>158914153 Picture of OP.",,Anonymous,1516572620529.jpg,FMbwjDXifT6XUMnUZSRZkQ==,US,,1517541424 158914153,158916862,2018-02-02 03:17:06,">>158916619 Technically, but they still have special organs for that purpose. Like a cow's 4 stomachs, or a horse's caecum.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541426 158914153,158916863,2018-02-02 03:17:08,">>158914153 plants feel pain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541428 158914153,158916882,2018-02-02 03:17:23,">>158915596 >jainism. Avoid killing anything. Ever. >basing opinion on YT wannabes Thought this board was for high minds not bottom feeder spastics like you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541443 158914153,158916902,2018-02-02 03:17:36,">>158916507 >natural meats, fish and eggs Fish has a lot of mercury. Did you know that eggs are not even classified as safe to eat by the FDA? Do you think this means nothing?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541456 158914153,158916909,2018-02-02 03:17:44,">>158916619 That humans do not have.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541464 158914153,158916978,2018-02-02 03:18:54,">>158916625 >Humans are able to break down the cellulose cell walls and get at the nutrients in the cell core. Yes, we do not completely digest the plant, we reach about 90% Nope. You don't have the aparatus. You know your appendix? In other animals, like a horse, that's a large organ that they use for the purpose of breaking down cellulose. Ours is shrivelled up and vestigal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541534 158914153,158917003,2018-02-02 03:19:25,">>158916531 When you take into account all the government subsidies that the meat industry gets just so that it can be affordable to most people, and the fact that a vegan diet still manages to be cheaper (it is if you buy in bulk), then you realize just how expensive feeding people meat is. Me personally, I spend about 200 dollars less a month on food after going vegan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541565 158914153,158917019,2018-02-02 03:19:35,">>158916653 Co inhibitors are not vitamins. It does not mean your body absorbs or uses any of these precursors simply that your body can convert a co inhibitor. There are specific populations which cannot convert beta carotene at all Seeds and nuts only contain ALA, yet EPA AND DHA are required for brain health. Inferior DIEt that requires supplementing. They want you dependent on a system dependent NWO starvation slave diet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541575 158914153,158917056,2018-02-02 03:20:13,"3 of the best videos that UTTERLY DESTROY gay soyboy vegans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvRbVQfzGVk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKovEX0G748 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdTXaFtDqZE",,Anonymous,varg.jpg,4ANU1fucFPi8e+lMOEK/pQ==,AU,,1517541613 158914153,158917057,2018-02-02 03:20:16,">>158916607 Really? Then how come we tend to live longer and suffer a fraction of the ailments the average American does? Surely this means we are more sick!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541616 158914153,158917069,2018-02-02 03:20:21,">>158914153 I still don't get why veganism is life, plants also die",,Anonymous,ThankTheBurgers.jpg,DQf2n759CcYhdUvcm+Jw3Q==,,,1517541621 158914153,158917079,2018-02-02 03:20:28,">>158915316 Good vegetables are a problem all year round on most of the planet. Meat is a powerful resource that helped humanity conquer the earth. Giving up meat results in malnutrition for most of humanity at this moment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541628 158914153,158917103,2018-02-02 03:20:48,">>158916258 Ad hominem on /pol/. Just wow.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541648 158914153,158917145,2018-02-02 03:21:24,">>158916854 How does that harm you in any way?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541684 158914153,158917147,2018-02-02 03:21:26,">>158916791 >If by develop correctly you mean catch diabetes at an early age, most likely be overweight and with plaque in their arteries at ages as young as 4 or 5 and shorten their lifespan by an average of 15 years Provide one shread of evidence coming from actual scientific studies and not from www.veganlife.com. Because all evidence seems to be the contrary >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4493900/Trendy-vegan-diets-wreck-child-s-health.html inb4 muh dailymail. Link to the study is in the article >There's a reason why most of the first world is sick and taking so many pills in todays day and age. Its the FOOD It's shitty processed food, has fuck all to do with veganism. You think people in the third world eat no meat? Or even more retardedly no fish and eggs like vegans do? Have you ever been in another country that isn't America?",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541686 158914153,158917162,2018-02-02 03:21:39,">>158916902 >Fish has a lot of mercury Smaller fish have less mercury And I don't know what you mean by the FDA saying eggs aren't safe to eat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541699 158914153,158917165,2018-02-02 03:21:46,">>158915591 All restrictive diets are shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541706 158914153,158917203,2018-02-02 03:22:21,">>158916862 >>158916909 that's the point, we are not herbivores nor carnivores, we are omnivores meant to eat anything",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541741 158914153,158917216,2018-02-02 03:22:34,"Animal eat animal Human = animal Human eat animal Basic math, though Human don't eat Human...",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541754 158914153,158917218,2018-02-02 03:22:34,">>158916630 >/pol/ annual BBQ instagram photo",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541754 158914153,158917224,2018-02-02 03:22:40,>>158914153,,Anonymous,mdM92Vc.gif,PJG8OD7A2fxQYqdSlpVBOw==,US,,1517541760 158914153,158917290,2018-02-02 03:23:36,">>158917203 Never said otherwise. I was countering his assertion that we were ""actually naturally vegetarian"". That's horseshit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541816 158914153,158917292,2018-02-02 03:23:37,">>158916882 I didn't say you have to be a Jain. I explained how there's no non-arbitrary way of drawing distinctions that need to be drawn in order for veganism to make sense. >YT wannabes It's an example that illustrates my point clearly. Show me another community on youtube, of similar size to veganism, that is as dominated by obsessive psychopaths gossiping about one another. I doubt there's a single example. I made a couple simple arguments. Think about why you're so triggered. Could it be that you can see that I'm right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541817 158914153,158917315,2018-02-02 03:23:59,">>158916853 Truth. Some ruminants develop horrible ulcers etc from unnatural plant diets They feed cows in America corn sludge, the entire stock ground down Cows should eat grass and grass only",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541839 158914153,158917325,2018-02-02 03:24:05,">>158915818 If 80 then those years are not so much fun anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541845 158914153,158917333,2018-02-02 03:24:15,">>158917057 >average American Average is a low standard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517541855 158914153,158917335,2018-02-02 03:24:14,">>158917216 human get kuru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw_tClcS6To",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517541854 158914153,158917365,2018-02-02 03:24:42,The strongest evidence that the human body is meant to eat meat: our teeth.,,Anonymous,teeth.jpg,N4+IlFxwBhhAqBXej74iqA==,US,,1517541882 158914153,158917372,2018-02-02 03:24:47,">>158916753 I cook in animal fat anon. go fuck yourself",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1517541887 158914153,158917399,2018-02-02 03:25:14,">>158917056 Diet=/=sex",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517541914 158914153,158917410,2018-02-02 03:25:24,">>158916213 Cause people hate bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541924 158914153,158917434,2018-02-02 03:25:44,">>158917290 yup",,Anonymous,,,,,1517541944 158914153,158917465,2018-02-02 03:26:06,">>158917145 Because a vegan diet usually contains a shit ton of soy and soy causes people to be more left wing. And if enough people where vegans, we would all be living in a dystopia shithole which harms me in every way.",,Anonymous,1517277851064.jpg,hRUU0CPu91DrYHSsMzidOg==,US,,1517541966 158914153,158917486,2018-02-02 03:26:22,"I have two friends who are vegan. One starts every conversation at a restaurant with ""Well I'm vegan, so what options do I have"", where the other will just ask about animal products, or just order the clear vegan choice. That first behavior is pretty much the only thing that bugs me about vegans, everything else is inconsequential",,Anonymous,1185836_403232799778668_442579148_n.png,LB0A6VcpYb4iC/frmthtUQ==,US,,1517541982 158914153,158917535,2018-02-02 03:27:03,">>158914153 >What is it about vegans that piss people off? This thread",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1517542023 158914153,158917603,2018-02-02 03:28:06,">>158917372 Fuck off retard. I have not met any in America use lard who isn't 80. 99.999% of people cook using plant fat. Usually some type of gmo high temp cooking oil. >>158917365 Raw meat is incredibly soft and can easily be eaten raw. Large canine teeth are for taking down pray. Humans take down pray with brain and tool. Kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542086 158914153,158917613,2018-02-02 03:28:16,">>158917486 Then your second friend is probably getting animal products at least half the time he eats out",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542096 158914153,158917625,2018-02-02 03:28:29,">>158914153 That pic is backwards, carbs from fruit will kills you while animals fats is the healthiest source of feul.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1517542109 158914153,158917628,2018-02-02 03:28:31,">>158916753 Boy, wheat is second only to soy as a protein intake staple food. Don't piss on bread. It made us what we are now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517542111 158914153,158917705,2018-02-02 03:29:42,">>158917315 It's not because it's unnatural, it's because it's ground to a powder. This increases the reaction rate in their stomach past what they're supposed to be dealing with. It's like if a person tried to live off nothing but bags of sugar. You could, but it will fuck you up.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517542182 158914153,158917780,2018-02-02 03:30:54,">>158917628 It's what created huge nations with populations in controlled malnutrition. Every inbred, receded jaw line. Every manlet, are a result of inferior plant based diets over thousands of years. Most health problems did not exist behind carb based plant diets. Bread enabled kings to have slaves. That's it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542254 158914153,158917795,2018-02-02 03:31:15,">>158914153 Reminder that vegan diet is not sustainable for even 20% of the world population. Eating too much seeds and plantlife has a detrimental effect on any ecosystem. Oh and kill yourself op, you cock sucking faggot.",,...,,,RS,,1517542275 158914153,158917802,2018-02-02 03:31:21,">>158917365 Our molars are designed for grinding motions rather than shredding motions. If our teeth are meant to eat meat how come we have to cook it and tender it first? Why is eating raw meat so hard? Again, does a lion cook its meat? Hell no, it bites the zebra right in the ass and chews that shit raw.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542281 158914153,158917819,2018-02-02 03:31:37,"OP, you could have just called it ""no gains faggots with low T who needs supplements"" general.",,Anonymous,laughing saxons.jpg,5EVjZMei0S6jV1YiopIzrQ==,DK,,1517542297 158914153,158917858,2018-02-02 03:32:12,">>158914153 You can only argue for veganism on an ethical basis. Sub-human animals tend to lack emotional empathy, similar to psychopaths (retards lack cognitive empathy). A lion isn't losing sleep at night because it had to sink its teeth into a deer. Since I'm for the death penalty for humans, I'm also fine with killing animals who lack emotional empathy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542332 158914153,158917868,2018-02-02 03:32:25,">>158914153 >because it challenges the status quo and deep down meat eaters know that their habits may not be the bes Pretty much this. They react so negatively out of guilt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542345 158914153,158917899,2018-02-02 03:32:53,">>158917795 That's just the guilt talking.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542373 158914153,158917951,2018-02-02 03:33:55,veganism is just another from of self hatred. That's why it's mostly done by white women.,,Anonymous,sv3rige.jpg,WvQ7AOYpjKWqenUaT8rszg==,AU,,1517542435 158914153,158917956,2018-02-02 03:34:00,">>158917780 >Bread is unhealthy empty carbs Check you statements. Bread is cheap and nutritios. No wonder it gets such a bad reputation as it limits the sale of more expensive food.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517542440 158914153,158918011,2018-02-02 03:35:03,">>158917603 sucks to be an american then? you also never cook anything in the fat of the bacon you just cooked? I practically make some sort of bacon in any dish I cook anyway.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1517542503 158914153,158918023,2018-02-02 03:35:12,">>158917858 If that's true, then you have no empathy and are therefore a sub human according to your own logic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542512 158914153,158918043,2018-02-02 03:35:29,">>158917802 Yes, because there were plenty of nuts, peanut butter, and avocados in ancient Scandinavia. Right? Oh wait. We evolved through hunting, that's just a basic biological fact you can deny all you want, but it doesn't make it any less true. My ancestors survived off of animal fat and beer. kek.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1517542529 158914153,158918123,2018-02-02 03:36:47,">>158917802 A lion isn't smart enough to cook. We figured out we could get more value from our food by investing external energy into the food (rather than using our own bodies energy to break it down) Keep in mind some animals may eat their shit to get all of the nutrients. Our digestive systems have adapted with us to our new diets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542607 158914153,158918126,2018-02-02 03:36:48,">>158915766 >no pic When I eat leaves or fruits, the tree/plant isn't murdered. Can't get a rib without killing though. >The absolute state of carnists... >>158915820 >He doesn't grow his own organic plants, using seeds from around the whole planet to ensure sufficient variety, something our ""slave"" ancestors never had. Sad. >>158916309 >a personal thing. Killing an innocent sentient being to entertain your tongue isn't a personal thing, it's violently imposing. A vegan mentioning it is ""Hey, stop violating others!"" >>158916378 >Not wanting to be in a controlled state of malnutrition, for the sake of your spiritual development. >The absolute state of /pol/",,Anonymous,gaia love you.jpg,uJvKoliQyolbVlfGGSGElA==,NZ,,1517542608 158914153,158918147,2018-02-02 03:37:16,">>158918023 >>158918043 stop putting your feelings into animals. just how races don't all think and feel the same way. neither do different animals.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517542636 158914153,158918241,2018-02-02 03:39:03,">>158914189 12 year veggiesaurus here. The moment I can buy it I will so fucking eat it. I have some real unfun first hand experience in factory farming pork and chicken. Clean fresh protien made in a lab sounds like the perfect solution to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542743 158914153,158918252,2018-02-02 03:39:11,">>158914153 once cloning is perfected we will be eating meat grown in laboratory's no more slaughtering animals problem solved you don't need to go vegan",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517542751 158914153,158918276,2018-02-02 03:39:36,">>158914153 maybe it's because they TALK ABOUT IIT ALL THE FUCKING TIME you fucking freaks don't even realise that you've replaced religion with a substitute. you are genetically predispositioned to be a fanatic, and when Christianity was advertised as being unpopular, you joined a different sect. shut the fuck up about it, for the rest of your life, stop being a fucking new-age evangelist. no one gives a shit about what you eat you fucking boring retard. ""I had toast today, why don't you eat toast, toast is good toast has calories in it which keep you ALIVE and toast has protein too which makes muscles and you DIE without toast. did you know that some people who don't eat toast have AIDS. did you know that people can survive on nothing but toast and vitamin tablets? that all other food types are just pushed by the military industrial complex!!!????!!???? toast is the most eco friendly and natural food there is, ancient faggots ate toast, they found toast in ancient ruins. toast is even eaten by PEOPLE. you should eat toast if you don't you are evil I HATE YOU YOU ARE EVIL YOU DONT EAT TOAST EAT TOAST YOU ARE EVIL YOU ARE WRONG EAT TOAST"" Why do people hate toast eaters? I'm a victim.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517542776 158914153,158918288,2018-02-02 03:39:44,">>158918043 >My ancestors survived off of animal fat and beer. kek. No they didn't. Hate to break it to ya. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cooking-up-bigger-brains/ https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4684-2481-2_8 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1040618215004553 Your ancestors thrived on starches. What you learned in high school anthropology class is incorrect.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542784 158914153,158918344,2018-02-02 03:40:56,">>158918241 >>158918252 keep your kike agenda to yourself",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517542856 158914153,158918372,2018-02-02 03:41:27,">>158914153 If everybody became vegan we'd all need massive supplementation. People in climates where growing plants is not feasible cannot live on plants alone. Farm animals would suffer.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517542887 158914153,158918374,2018-02-02 03:41:31,"humans have been eating animals since forever and won't stop doing it anytime soon",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1517542891 158914153,158918378,2018-02-02 03:41:34,">>158916047 If anything, we're scavengers. We can survive in almost any habitat, and evolve/adapt. From protein based diets of inuits, to plant based. ""Meant to eat"" indicates outside intervention and design. I don't buy that, that's sky fairy nonsense. I'm more pragmatic - we, as a race, are the most successful because of our adaptability, and have evolved into the apex predator, not because we were ""meant"" to - but because we could, and there's a world of difference between the two. I eat meat, because I can, because it's delicious, and because it's nutrient rich. There are no morals involved.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517542894 158914153,158918415,2018-02-02 03:42:02,">>158918252 It would solve the moral issue of inflicting unnecessary suffering - but there would still be all the health dangers like disease and bacteria AND the fact that meat is incredibly unhealthy.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517542922 158914153,158918418,2018-02-02 03:42:05,It's because vegan pizza rolls taste like aids,,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542925 158914153,158918420,2018-02-02 03:42:07,">>158914153 I've never met a healthy, non-cucked, mentally sound vegan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517542927 158914153,158918434,2018-02-02 03:42:22,">>158918241 A kg of meat is 3-8 Dollaz. Bioengineering bfto unless it can produce at a comparable price.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517542942 158914153,158918441,2018-02-02 03:42:29,">>158914189 No, being accountable for your own food is the only solution.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517542949 158914153,158918459,2018-02-02 03:42:45,">>158917951 another show oh self hatred is that they believe that humans are not apart of nature.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517542965 158914153,158918479,2018-02-02 03:43:14,">>158918344 My friend there is no need for that. What about my post upset you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517542994 158914153,158918495,2018-02-02 03:43:32,">>158918420 Thats probably because you never leave your moms basement. Got em",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543012 158914153,158918503,2018-02-02 03:43:39,">>158915575 You can eat raw beef no problem. Chances of E. coli contamination are very small. We could eat chicken raw too but we keep them cooped up close together so the likelihood of a chicken being contaminated with salmonella are incredibly high. Basically, we cook our meat for two reasons, it tends to taste better, and farming industry has gotten so big it’s difficult to prevent the livestock from being contaminated. But if your sure your beef doesn’t have E. coli or your chicken doesn’t have salmonella, it’s perfectly fine to eat raw.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543019 158914153,158918512,2018-02-02 03:43:51,"Had a vegan in the military with me. He ate 24/7, all the fucking time to keep up with how many calories and nutriens he used. He could not even just relax during his brakes. He had to eat. 6 days in he collapsed and was sent to a hospital. He fucking died. I Did not know what it was exactly. He should have gotten all the nutriens he needs plus he knew what he had to eat and when. I think it was the stress he had that killed him. Anyway. Its sad to see a young man go like this. When I think back. If he ate meat and would rekax in the brakes like the rest he could have a family now with his gf. Just goes to show that when faced with high activity work the vegan diet will kill you. Your only able to do it because life is easy now.",,anonymous,,,CH,,1517543031 158914153,158918554,2018-02-02 03:44:28,">>158918288 Before 10000 years ago in the Middle East, 5000 years ago in South Europe, in 3000 years ago in northern Europe carbs were rare if not nonexistent for the majority of the year for hundreds of thousands of years.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543068 158914153,158918580,2018-02-02 03:44:47,">>158914153 Vegans piss people off because they think that they have a moral duty to control what other people do. Due to this, they are virtually all democrats",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543087 158914153,158918622,2018-02-02 03:45:25,">>158914153 >mother earth Dirt fucking pedo bestialists.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517543125 158914153,158918642,2018-02-02 03:45:45,">>158918503 You're missing the point. A lion doesn't have to worry about contaminated meat, weather is it contaminated or not, because their stomach acids are so much stronger that they neutralize any bad bacteria that would otherwise make a human being sick as hell, further suggesting that maybe our physiology was not meant to consume meat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543145 158914153,158918669,2018-02-02 03:46:07,">>158915381 Of course you can. And omega 3 too (there are algae pills for this). All of this is cheap. Being vegan is easy as hell (and I'm living in fucking Georgia).",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1517543167 158914153,158918698,2018-02-02 03:46:39,">>158918415 And the virtue signaling is cranked up several notches. Go fuck yourself, soyboy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543199 158914153,158918703,2018-02-02 03:46:43,">>158918512 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f-fMN2v8Uk Meet vegan bodybuilders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543203 158914153,158918726,2018-02-02 03:47:03,">>158918459 Vegans are insane narcissists. Look at YouTube and type in what I eat in a day or food Preps for the week. It's 95% vegans, from a group around 2% of the population with most participants failing within a year. It's a narcissistic feel good emotional attention deal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543223 158914153,158918734,2018-02-02 03:47:11,">>158918554 Plant starch. Fruits have carbs. Meat has glycogen aka carbs. All that is made out of cells has some form of carbs. Do not spred misinfo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543231 158914153,158918742,2018-02-02 03:47:17,">>158918554 Source on this?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517543237 158914153,158918768,2018-02-02 03:47:42,">>158914918 Are you really con Earth-chan? Really gonna risk that statement, bud?",,Anonymous,2018-02-02-09-40-46--1266329233.jpg,6uzO4PB5TqjXx9JVIr0cTA==,DE,,1517543262 158914153,158918811,2018-02-02 03:48:20,">>158918703 Most vegan bodybuilders where meat eaters for the majority of their life and all of them are on synthetic man-made steroids Long-term vegan bodybuilders are on insane supplement synthetic diets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543300 158914153,158918823,2018-02-02 03:48:29,">>158918698 Why is it 'virtue signalling' to be against violence? The odds are that you're vastly more into virtue signalling than I am, you'll just virtue signal over more worthless things.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517543309 158914153,158918848,2018-02-02 03:48:54,">>158918703 Why isn't vegan gains on this list",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543334 158914153,158918865,2018-02-02 03:49:15,">>158918554 I'm pretty sure he was talking about how the human mind developed, way before the time frame you're referring to.",,Anonymous,758H43W0TEJhzB4ETZPFYXL1hr08yrtnl3VJl7joL60.jpg,3elmA7Bots+7VoU58di93g==,US,,1517543355 158914153,158918868,2018-02-02 03:49:17,"People just fear that ""necessary minimum"" of morality will become higher. This is just an egoism vs morality conflict. No one wants to take more obligations.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1517543357 158914153,158918883,2018-02-02 03:49:26,">>158918669 But then you start producing equol and grow bitch tits, or worse become street shitters. Every vegetarian culture that exists has pretty fucked up people practising it.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517543366 158914153,158918884,2018-02-02 03:49:28,">>158918642 No, it means our physiology didn't adapt/evolve to eat rancid meat. Bears like their meat a little gamey, they'll leave a kill for a day or two, eating that would sicken a human. Saying we were ""meant"" to do anything implies sky fairies and design, so I reject that, as an adult.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543368 158914153,158918905,2018-02-02 03:49:51,">>158918642 >because their stomach acids are so much stronger that they neutralize any bad bacteria that would otherwise make a human being sick as hell Nope. You have lots of potentially deadly bacteria in your own gut - e.coli for example. They like and thrive in acid. If they stay there it's fine and natural. The problem comes when they get somewhere they're not supposed to be. Like food, or a wound.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517543391 158914153,158918907,2018-02-02 03:49:53,">>158918734 Do you know what seasons are? Before the Agricultural Revolution fruits existed for one or two months out of the year and hunters and gatherers were lucky to find them this is how humans live for hundreds of thousands of years. Even if they found edible plants they did not spend hours or the entire day to access a tiny portion of food time was spent hunting for the most nutrient-dense food, organs and marrow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543393 158914153,158918919,2018-02-02 03:50:05,">>158914153 they tend to be sanctimonious assholes. worse than door to door xtian evangelists, even",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543405 158914153,158918986,2018-02-02 03:51:24,">>158914153 Stop being such a fairy and kill and butcher your own meat. It will give you a greater appreciation for life by taking another's to continue your own.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543484 158914153,158919007,2018-02-02 03:51:42,I ate meat (chicken) for the first time in a year. I was really hungry and there was nothing really to eat. I feel bad about it. I'm not going to eat meat for another year.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543502 158914153,158919015,2018-02-02 03:51:52,">>158918742 Northern climates did not naturally have an abundance of edible plants or fruits pre agriculture rare if not nonexistent, before modern agriculture which the majority of human history",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543512 158914153,158919048,2018-02-02 03:52:19,">>158918884 We cure meat too. Stuff you buy at the supermarket has been kept in cold storage for a few months. Freshly killed meat is rather tough.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517543539 158914153,158919062,2018-02-02 03:52:34,">>158918823 I thought I told you to fuck off, hippy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543554 158914153,158919064,2018-02-02 03:52:36,">>158918986 This >>158919007 That's really embarrassing. Chicken isn't even considered meat here.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517543556 158914153,158919088,2018-02-02 03:53:02,">>158918642 Your missing the point. Your claiming we HAVE to cook meat because we’re not meant to eat meat. I’m saying we cook meat because we got so fucking good at farming it. See the difference?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543582 158914153,158919101,2018-02-02 03:53:12,">>158918883 No. You watch the amount of soy you eat and don't be a dipshit. I go to the gym, work out, I'm fine. You wouldn't be able to tell I'm vegan, and I don't advertise it. I understand the reputation. You're not arguing a position, just pointing to internet memes. A vegan could point at you and say that you'll develop heart disease, and eat your family members or something absurd. But what's the point?",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1517543592 158914153,158919103,2018-02-02 03:53:14,">>158918986 >murder living things which love you and form attachments to you for meat because of reasons Even pigs and cows feel attachment to their owners. In 100 years meat eating will be seen as absolutely disgusting, it will almost certainly be banned. I don't think even the most extreme anti-vegan would deny this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543594 158914153,158919126,2018-02-02 03:53:32,">>158918907 Shrooms roots and leaves can be consumed 7 months per year. All have good carbs in them. I'm not a vegan if you did not get that. I found your statement wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543612 158914153,158919130,2018-02-02 03:53:38,">>158918865 Human ancestors in Northern climates diets high meat and organs. Pure raw fat. Eggs and milk would be eaten if it was found. The idea that pre agriculture humans were walking around with their Gathering baskets collecting cute little berries is fucking insane",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543618 158914153,158919150,2018-02-02 03:54:03,">>158919015 Right that makes a lot of sense. And we used to have a lot more wild animals compared to the modern breeds of them we keep in industrial farms. So meat would have been incredibly abundant.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517543643 158914153,158919156,2018-02-02 03:54:11,">>158919062 I'm not a hippie. I'm a Christian.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517543651 158914153,158919162,2018-02-02 03:54:18,">>158919015 My Irish ancestors ate a diet rich in beef and mutton and fish. The whole potatoes thing came late in the history of the country, they were imported from the new world.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543658 158914153,158919166,2018-02-02 03:54:20,">>158918811 Right there with ya. Cant see how a vegan will survive a job or occupation where you need more the 4k calories per day. Without any supplements.",,anonymous,,,CH,,1517543660 158914153,158919233,2018-02-02 03:55:34,">>158919126 Sure they can be eaten and I admitted these plants exist. But if what you think that this is what humans would spend their time accessing.. Lol perhaps sometimes in times of severe starvation sure but pre agriculture human being was spending their entire time trying to find the most nutrient-dense food which is organs and fat and marrow.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543734 158914153,158919262,2018-02-02 03:55:57,">>158914153 a vegan diet is not healthy. killing is a part of life. it's not immoral. vegans like trannys are only doing so they can hate on normal people.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517543757 158914153,158919284,2018-02-02 03:56:17,">>158915252 fukken saved",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1517543777 158914153,158919287,2018-02-02 03:56:20,">>158919156 You're a fucking hippy. Question: ""Was Jesus a vegetarian? Should a Christian be a vegetarian (or vegan)?"" Answer: Jesus was not a vegetarian. The Bible records Jesus eating fish (Luke 24:42-43) and lamb (Luke 22:8-15). Jesus miraculously fed the crowds fish and bread, a strange thing for Him to do if He was a vegetarian (Matthew 14:17-21). In a vision to the apostle Peter, Jesus declared all foods to be clean, including animals (Acts 10:10-15). After the flood in Noah's time, God gave humanity permission to eat meat (Genesis 9:2-3). God has never rescinded this permission. https://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Christian-vegetarian.html",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543780 158914153,158919318,2018-02-02 03:56:55,">>158918495 Cop-out response. Even as a vegan yourself you must admit that the overwhelming majority of your kind are unhealthy, severely cucked, reasonably fucking mental and quite thoroughly retarded individuals. Granted it seems they also lack any sense of self awareness so perhaps you won't be able to admit that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517543815 158914153,158919389,2018-02-02 03:58:13,">>158919150 And there was a lot fewer people Human populations moved around much more and there were more balances in nature. >>158919162 The majority of plants eaten in Europe are new world vegetables and cruciferous from middle east. The many old dishes using intestines and organs is there for a reason.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517543893 158914153,158919403,2018-02-02 03:58:24,">>158919101 Equol is not limited to soy (phytoestrogens are in all phytoestrogenic plants), and vegetarian diets increase the gut flora that creates equol. I'm not memeing, just because you don't like it does not make it wrong. It goes against eating clean in general. How the fuck can you eat clean when all the shit you eat has been processed to hell and back to resemble naturally occurring foods like meat and animal fats.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517543904 158914153,158919475,2018-02-02 03:59:45,">>158919287 So you had to google the issue to come up with a response? I have no idea what Jesus's diet was (I hold that the gospel accounts are forgeries), but I know that the scriptures show that God cares about the animals (he initially specifically prescribes a vegan diet in the garden, and only later gives explicit permission for eating meat to specific persons under specific conditions, in the same moment PROMISING the animals an accounting in blood). Also much of what you've quoted is misinformed. For example Luke doesn't refer to fish but to a type of bread (it's a translation issue), and the section in acts isn't at all about giving people permission to eat anything.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517543985 158914153,158919521,2018-02-02 04:00:31,">>158914767 So you value intellect higher than ecology importance?",,Anonymous,pondfoodchain1.png,8E0iADKglL+JGSfRv8WEOQ==,GB,,1517544031 158914153,158919547,2018-02-02 04:01:10,">>158916853 >corn whole. Heh.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1517544070 158914153,158919574,2018-02-02 04:01:43,">>158915575 >Tell me, if humans were meant to eat meat, how come we have to cook it for fear of catching a disease? Tell me, if humans were meant to eat vegetables, how come we have to wash it for fear of catching a disease? Does a cow wash the grass before he eats it. Do primates clean the vegetables and fruits before eating them? >Why are our intestines so much different than any other carnivore on planet earth? Because humans are not just carnivores, they are omnivores, and evolutionarily speaking we've only been omnivores for a very short time. There are many reasons an animal can turn from carnivore/herbivore into both, and back. Availability of food is a big one in that regard. If there aren't enough plants/meat to eat, animals will start evolving according to their environment. Human omnivores are a unique thing in nature, because it wasn't because of shortage that we turned omnivorous, it was because of plenty. The Homo Erectus had his hands free to use tools, with which one could kill animals with relative ease, hence meat on top of vegetables/fruit became readily available. The reason why humans have to prepare the meat is because normally when a species ""switches"" to carnivore/omnivore, it takes many infections and many deaths before a natural immunity has built up to such diseases. However, because humans are intelligent, we found a way around the diseases: cooking the meat. As a consequence, our natural immunity to meat-related illness and disease never occurred.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1517544103 158914153,158919578,2018-02-02 04:01:47,">>158919233 Hunting is good but in winter it's hard and risky. Humans had good knowledge of their enviroment and could survive without meat if none was found. Still going forth from the carb statement, Eskimos had close to no plants and fared fine. But there is no known population without meat.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517544107 158914153,158919585,2018-02-02 04:01:58,">>158919403 Processed? What has been processed in vegetables? I don't eat processed food as much as possible. In fact, the only processed foods I eat here are pasta. But my personal decisions don't really matter. The point is that it is entirely possible to have a non-meat or feminine protein diet and be healthy. You think drinking milk doesn't have a shit ton of bullshit in it? Especially estrogen? Come off it. And you are memeing.",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1517544118 158914153,158919596,2018-02-02 04:02:10,">>158914153 Vegans have a considerably higher risk of heart disease than normal people Vegas live shorter lives than normal people Vegans are constantly iron deficient, seaweed iron requires you to eat kilos of it just to get enough iron for the day Carnivores live much better lives Grass fed beef contains more than essential vitamins to keep you alive Meat is for humans. Humans are carnivores.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517544130 158914153,158919672,2018-02-02 04:03:18,">>158919475 >Everything I do not like in the Bible is a forgery Wow. How is ""fish and bread"" a mistake? Source? How did several translators mistake ""lamb"" for whatever you think it was supposed to be? You realise the newer translations keep these ""forgeries"" despite being direct translations rather than translations of translations, right?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517544198 158914153,158919729,2018-02-02 04:04:13,">>158919130 The reason why dishes like Haggis exist is the Scots ate every bit of a cow, or pig. No waste. They didn't have the luxury of legumes, rice, potatoes, or corn.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517544253 158914153,158919741,2018-02-02 04:04:20,">>158919596 Omnivores. But other than that correct.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517544260 158914153,158919798,2018-02-02 04:05:18,">>158919574 >Tell me, if humans were meant to eat vegetables, how come we have to wash it for fear of catching a disease? Human conditioning and modern industry shilling for profits. Raw products are healthier and of course the system would not want you to be able to access that. Healthy natural bacteria and enzymes, without destroying most of the vitamins. Human conditioning to taste and being lied to that you can not eat meat raw is also a result of unsafe modern industry >There are many reasons an animal can turn from carnivore/herbivore into both, and back. Almost every animal on the planet is an opportunist carnivore. There is documented proof of all kinds of animals eating other animals. Deer eating mice, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544318 158914153,158919806,2018-02-02 04:05:24,">>158919729 Legumes where not a luxury just nonexistent for most of the year.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517544324 158914153,158919818,2018-02-02 04:05:33,">>158914153 Good and evil aren't defined in terms of pleasure and suffering. That simplistic worldview just proves that vegans are hedonistic degenerate idiots.",,Anonymous,1516281331402.jpg,BkyN9xZzrxzA1lFq+K2p+g==,,,1517544333 158914153,158919871,2018-02-02 04:06:24,">>158916853 Cows aren't even supposed to eat corn either. That's why they're so ill. They used to be only grazers, then when we needed them to output more milk we gave them agricultural grain and hay to supplement them. America is feeding a lot of animals shit they should not be, making the animals sick, produce more methane and is the justification for pumping them full of antibiotics.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517544384 158914153,158919908,2018-02-02 04:07:10,">>158919475 Oh, I'm wrong because I don't have the specific parts of the bible memorized. LOL. You weak minded motherfucker. Eat some meat, your brain is dying from lack of fat in your diet, hippy. NO Christian denomination teaches veganism. GOD allows us to eat animals, if you believe in sky fairies. It says so in the Bible. Genesis 9:2-3 English Standard Version (ESV) 2 The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything. Are you saying God is wrong? Hmmm? Fuck, I know more about your religion than you do, and I don't even fucking believe in it. Fuck off, hippy soyboy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517544430 158914153,158919941,2018-02-02 04:07:48,">>158915575 We did used to eat raw meat and many still do. Inuits for example.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517544468 158914153,158919955,2018-02-02 04:07:59,">>158918734 Glycogen is a trivial amount of carbs. Fat is converted to glucose for most energy needs while they brain can run on ketones",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544479 158914153,158919984,2018-02-02 04:08:21,">>158919130 For Human ancestors meat was a relatively rare treat, difficult to obtain but rewarding. It's just as insane to imagine they were eating meat on a daily basis.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544501 158914153,158919995,2018-02-02 04:08:32,">>158919672 >Everything I do not like in the Bible is a forgery I don't claim that at all. I claim that all the books in the Old Testament are inspired by God and only readable by the elect. I believe that all the gospel accounts are fraudulent inventions and don't reflect on the actual man Jesus. Some of the letters attributed to Paul were written by the elect of that age. What matters is that the Old Testament from the very beginning makes VERY clear what God's ideal is. He SPECIFICALLY PRESCRIBES A VEGAN DIET, for humans AND for animals. Most ""Christians"" will take ideas from the Garden like the 'marriage' of Adam and Eve as important - but totally ignore this aspect. Later on God SPECIFICALLY gives permission to SPECIFIC persons to consume meat under certain conditions - AND that he makes an age-enduring PROMISE to the ANIMALS that there will be an accounting in blood. This clearly shows that God is only allowing the suffering that takes place to exist as part of the judgement.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517544512 158914153,158920041,2018-02-02 04:09:15,">>158919585 How much milk do you think the average person consumes in a day? Versus your entire existence almost completely subsisting on phytoestrogenic plants.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517544555 158914153,158920044,2018-02-02 04:09:22,">>158919318 Hitler was a vegetarian. The Nazis made abig deal out of animal rights actually. So it's strange to meat that fascists and national ""socialists"" are so anti-vegan and anti-vegetarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544562 158914153,158920100,2018-02-02 04:10:27,">>158919574 What disease could you catch from unwashed nuts and berries in a tribal hunter-gatherer society?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544627 158914153,158920112,2018-02-02 04:10:38,"I have many reasons why I dislike Vegans and Veganism. The big thing is how many thousands of jobs would be destroyed if we completely eradicated meat consumption. In Australia alone, there are many millions of acres of the country where cropping is simply not feasible. The only profitable option for much of the country is extensive grazing operations. Which is simply having relatively small stock numbers per acre. Also, the so called 'cruelty' to animals is over-blown. Sure, castrating cattle is a bloody affair and looks very confronting when you see a steer a few days after being cut, blood stains on its rear legs and swollen nut sack. The process is quick and relatively painful, and as evidence by the process of educating or 'breaking' weaners, relatively stress free. The lives they live are good. Graziers are in it for the money, sure, but they (the land owners), managers and stockmen go to great lengths to minimise any suffering to their stock. Whether from malnutrition of lack of waters. Doing otherwise is simply pissing away your money. So the cattle or sheep have the best levels of nutrition that is possible, supplemental feed, and a relatively stress free environment. Sure, the scrub (wild) bulls get it a bit rough, often times being stressed out when a human tips and ties them up. But again, it's only for a little while. As for the slaughtering process, i can give first hand experience on how stock are handled, cared for and slaughtered. It's done in as humane a way as possible. At least in Australia. I see no real reason to argue for veganism based on animal welfare or cruelty. It's just ridiculous people who have no idea making arguments that they are not knowledgeable enough to make. If it matters, I've worked as a slaughtermen, a ringer (A Stockman dealing with cattle, a lot of the time feral (scrub/wild) cattle, and now working as an assistant manager on a large scale sheep station. I know first hand the goes into these animals.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517544638 158914153,158920139,2018-02-02 04:10:59,">>158919475 >I have no idea what Jesus's diet was In that time and age fish bread meat , they did not have the select vegetables we have today",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1517544659 158914153,158920164,2018-02-02 04:11:28,">>158919578 >What is it about vegans that piss people off? Because veganism is morally superior.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1517544688 158914153,158920188,2018-02-02 04:11:57,">>158919955 ""carb"" is short for carbohydrate. It's a type of molucule containing carbon, hydrogen and oxygen (carbo-hydr-ate). Sugars' one, fat's one, technically even road tar's one.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517544717 158914153,158920193,2018-02-02 04:12:00,">>158919995 Give the verses you're reading to get this.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517544720 158914153,158920200,2018-02-02 04:12:02,">>158914189 That's fucking disgusting. Even worse than factory farming. No, the real solution is to abolish all mass food production and have everyone hunt for their own. Unfortunately that means a lot of people will die off because they are too weak to survive in the real world. But that's tough shit, these people shouldn't even exist if it wasn't for ((( technology ))) and greedy skypes. Civilisation is a slave plantation.",,Anonymous,1514851465101.jpg,KqeSB4C0Qi3rX0abY4LNPg==,,,1517544722 158914153,158920232,2018-02-02 04:12:28,">>158919995 Do you not know about the covenants? Do you fail to understand that requirements made specificlly within those covenants are completely removed with the entering of the everlasting covenant with Christ?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517544748 158914153,158920234,2018-02-02 04:12:28,">>158919287 Fake news. I googled this and Jesus never eats lamb. Your quoted passage says nothing about eating lamb at all. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=lu+22:8-15 He ate fish, but fish isn't meat. I eat fish but I still consider myself a vegetarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544748 158914153,158920265,2018-02-02 04:12:56,">>158920041 But it's not just milk and you know it. It's all milk based products. How much? Between the cheeses, the sauces, and all the other shit? Quite a bit. Also, again, who do you think is really eating processed foods? The people who are almost certainly having to cook most of their meals, or the average person who is lazy as shit and orders shit out or gets relatively ready made meals to go? Maybe in Norway you're all regularly cooking, but that is not the norm. At least not in the US. Americans don't cook from scratch. And to try and come at the non-meat diets as being high in bullshit when the industry of meat is pumping that shit without any concern... Again, come off it.",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1517544776 158914153,158920289,2018-02-02 04:13:11,"You know what pisses me off about Vegans? Its their self righteous smugness and their need to shove being vegan in everyone's face. Its the constant need to remind everyone that you don't even use animal products for anything. Its the constant smugness. >>158914153 >Even the non smug vegans Those don't exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544791 158914153,158920309,2018-02-02 04:13:36,">>158919955 DNA has Carbs too. It ain't much but it's not zero.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517544816 158914153,158920376,2018-02-02 04:14:46,">>158920164 Compared to what?",,Anonymous,,,,,1517544886 158914153,158920426,2018-02-02 04:15:45,"I don't care about what other people do, but it does annoy me that vegans seem to think that their philosophy and dietary choices are objectively correct and superior.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517544945 158914153,158920430,2018-02-02 04:15:50,"You people talking about how vat grown protein would be acceptable don’t know it already exists. It’s called quorn, and it tastes fucking great.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517544950 158914153,158920435,2018-02-02 04:15:54,">>158920234 LOL. Have you ever been fishing? Obviously you don't know how badly fish try to avoid pain and stimuli. They do everything they can to get away. Once when killing a fish as a kid I cut the wrong spot and the croak confirm to me fish want to actively stay alive as does any other creature And guess what it's part of life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517544954 158914153,158920443,2018-02-02 04:16:10,">>158919596 >Humans are carnivores. Far right is what carnivore teeth look like If humans are carnivores, why do our teeth look just like herbivore teeth?",,Anonymous,humans-are-meant-to-eat-meat-we-have-carnivorous-teeth-14046305.png,DGPZN9DIPrI3vua7U5lUSQ==,US,,1517544970 158914153,158920488,2018-02-02 04:16:56,">>158919798 >Human conditioning and modern industry shilling for profits. Raw products are healthier and of course the system would not want you to be able to access that. Healthy natural bacteria and enzymes, without destroying most of the vitamins. Rinsing vegetables with water does not destroy vitamines contained within vegetables, but it is a method of preparation that helps fight disease. Nobody wants to eat veggies laden with dirt. >Human conditioning to taste and being lied to that you can not eat meat raw is also a result of unsafe modern industry Raw meat has never been safe for humans to eat, just think about how humans cannot digest blood, which is inevitably contained in raw meat if it comes from a fresh kill. >Almost every animal on the planet is an opportunist carnivore. There is documented proof of all kinds of animals eating other animals. Deer eating mice, etc. So would you therefore classify deer as omnivores/carnivores?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1517545016 158914153,158920503,2018-02-02 04:17:10,">>158920164 See, there's your problem. You believe that veganism is ""morally superior"" when it's blatantly not. You have to ignore reality in order to convince yourself that it is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545030 158914153,158920517,2018-02-02 04:17:29,">>158920112 I’d rather just not worry about it at all and stick to my prescetarian diet.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545049 158914153,158920524,2018-02-02 04:17:37,">>158919984 Depends on where they lived. Coastal and river based ancestors probably ate mostly fish - many native American tribes still do. The plains indians ate a primarily meat based diet. The northern tribes in Europe cultivated animals and ate meat-based diets. It's places like teh Nile Delta, rich agricultural areas were were grain and plant based diets ruled. Again, humans can adapt/evolve to live almost anywhere, on a variety of foodstuffs. Lack of plants does not mean humans can't survive. Pre-agriculture, most humans were hunter-gatherers, not just gatherers. And, my opinion, mostly scavengers, we ate the leftovers of kills by predators, along with kills of our own. We have proof of humans eating mammoth, so we had our hunting game going back that far. Our use of bone as a material goes back to the cave - we certainly were not eating meat rarely, considering how much animals played in our survival, with furs for clothing, bones for tools like needles and blades and such, sinew, we have archeaological proof that humans were hunting, killing and eating animals from day one. Daily basis? Pray tell what were they eating in the winter, when there were no fruits, roots or berries to gather? They were eating DEER, and anything else they could track down. Cooking and preserving food started with smoking and drying meat. Rare treat my ass. We grew into what we are on meat.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545057 158914153,158920537,2018-02-02 04:17:47,">>158919103 Oh my god you're such a faggot. Pull a fish from the water, disembowel it, and throw it on the grill. Go for a walk and shoot a bird or a rabbit, skin it, and cook on a skillet. Stop being such an insufferable pussyboy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545067 158914153,158920557,2018-02-02 04:18:14,">>158920265 Most people don't live only on dairy products, what are you talking about? Did you eat mostly milk based sauce with cheese and a side of carbs and meat? Cause that's not normal here or anywhere I've been to. Supermarket meat here is pretty high quality, you're judging the entire meat industry with the same scrutiny as America's industrial meat industry. You're doing your own country a disservice by assuming they're the same. Considering how widely different America and Europe is in general when it comes to a lot of things, it's pretty intellectually dishonest of you to try and use them as the reason why meat is bad.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517545094 158914153,158920575,2018-02-02 04:18:33,">>158920443 Human jaw and teeth are for speech not for hunting and tearing the throat out of a 2-ton creature Humans use their brain and tools instead which meat enabled us to do",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545113 158914153,158920601,2018-02-02 04:19:00,">>158920443 Do herbivores get a taste of meat, think, ""This shit tastes great,"" and then add it to their diet? No? Just the fact that we crave and enjoy meat alone should tell you something.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545140 158914153,158920618,2018-02-02 04:19:13,">>158920376 Meat-Eating",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1517545153 158914153,158920620,2018-02-02 04:19:18,">>158920193 Genesis 1:29 Then God said, ""I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground-everything that has the breath of life in it-I give every green plant for food."" And it was so. Genesis 9:3... Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. ""I now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you 10 and with every living creature that was with you-the birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with you-every living creature on earth. 11 I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be destroyed by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth."" Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517545158 158914153,158920638,2018-02-02 04:19:39,">>158920200 Why not just eliminate welfare to get rid of the weak instead of making it harder/less efficient for others to survive?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545179 158914153,158920640,2018-02-02 04:19:42,">>158920443 If we are herbivores, why do we have canines? its almost like humans are omnivores dipshit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545182 158914153,158920651,2018-02-02 04:19:53,">>158920443 We're omnivores, and to you can see that man's canines. Why BTFO yourself like this?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517545193 158914153,158920659,2018-02-02 04:20:00,">>158920443 The fact that we've been eating meat for as long as we've existed and that there is no tribe in the world who doesn't eat meat if available and the fact that our bodies are able to digest and use it is proof enough that we were made to eat meat, dingus.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545200 158914153,158920679,2018-02-02 04:20:17,">>158920524 While I’m on a prescetarian diet I do agree with this. Human diet was largely dictated by the seasons.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545217 158914153,158920681,2018-02-02 04:20:18,">>158914153 Normally because most vegans won't shut the hell up about a personal choice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545218 158914153,158920686,2018-02-02 04:20:23,">>158919995 >He SPECIFICALLY PRESCRIBES A VEGAN DIET No, he doesn't. The link I posted has a specific quote, FROM GOD, that's in the Old Testament. ""Genesis 9:2-3 English Standard Version (ESV) 2 The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. 3 Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything."" Just shut the fuck up, hippy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545223 158914153,158920688,2018-02-02 04:20:23,">>158919103 >because of reasons Fucking reddit-tier argument, you have to go back",,Anonymous,1449712003799.jpg,r+/ETPh1bOrmdLLM2BfLcw==,US,,1517545223 158914153,158920704,2018-02-02 04:20:34,">>158920517 Do you believe that fish can replace meat on a world wide and sustainable scale? And at least equal the economic input from land based meat? It's a huge business.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517545234 158914153,158920732,2018-02-02 04:20:51,">>158920443 >Hur durr, I don't know what canine teeth are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545251 158914153,158920735,2018-02-02 04:20:54,">>158920488 It was a response to you claiming humans have an initial desire to cook. Raw meat has always been safe to consume and you are a liar and completely misinformed. Raw meat has been eaten by humans for the majority of Human Experience and it's only unsafe now because of unnatural factory farming unsafe standards",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545254 158914153,158920751,2018-02-02 04:21:11,">>158920618 Confusing eating habits with morals?",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545271 158914153,158920772,2018-02-02 04:21:36,They are obnoxious,,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545296 158914153,158920812,2018-02-02 04:22:21,">>158920100 If anyone who was sick touched that berry or nut, then not washing it puts you at risk for disease. Then there's also the animals who could've touched that berry prior to you picking it up, and they too can carry myriad of illnesses that affect humans. There could also be dirt on the nut if you picked it up from the ground.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1517545341 158914153,158920822,2018-02-02 04:22:33,">>158920435 >Once when killing a fish as a kid I cut the wrong spot and the croak confirm to me fish want to actively stay alive as does any other creature I'm sure they do. Even insects want to stay alive. The thing is, there's a massive difference in intelligence between a fish and a pig, which has the same reasoning power as a 3 year old child. Also, the pig feels attachment to its owners, even in a factory farm. Killing them. The #1 reason I'm vegetarian isn't even about the animals. It's about the workers. My ex's dad worked as a butcher, killing pigs. He said it was fucking brutal, he developed severe PTSD. The pigs get to know you, they see you as a friend. Then you slit their throats. Meat workers are some of the worst paying jobs out there. And they're also the most extremely exploitative, destroying the workers' psyche over time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545353 158914153,158920841,2018-02-02 04:22:47,">>158920686 Mentally ill person, you are quoting from a section later on in Genesis, and which is addressed to Noah, not to ""all people"".",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517545367 158914153,158920889,2018-02-02 04:23:34,">>158920704 No, but that's mainly because it rots very easily. You could probably, if you really really had to, get the raw ammount required by farming it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545414 158914153,158920898,2018-02-02 04:23:41,">>158920704 No I don’t although vat grown protein is better for the environment and potentially health and it’s a growing market (see quorn) I couldn’t care less If people eat meat as long as it’s humanely killed. People just go overboard. Of course eating steak is fine but if you eat it every single day don’t be surprised if you get colon cancer",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545421 158914153,158920903,2018-02-02 04:23:45,">>158919103 What will be the reason to keep pigs and cows once meat is banned? You are condemning these animals to a fate worse than death, you are condemning them to non-existence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545425 158914153,158920942,2018-02-02 04:24:31,">>158920443 compare it to close omnivores, like the chimpanzees (pic related)",,Anonymous,Fo4_albino_yao_guai.jpg,siGr5F/aOdY3lXWGN9kNBQ==,,,1517545471 158914153,158920947,2018-02-02 04:24:39,">>158920812 Or, a bird or animal shit on the berries. That can give you a nice case of the runs. You generally want to clean what you eat. Many animal species clean their food, when they can. Go google raccoons.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545479 158914153,158920987,2018-02-02 04:25:25,">>158920841 Fuck off, Hippy. You're either trolling, or a fucking hippy neckbeard. Either way, no more (you)s for your dumb ass.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545525 158914153,158921014,2018-02-02 04:25:47,">>158920903 An industry that large will never be banned anyway, he's fooling himself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545547 158914153,158921019,2018-02-02 04:25:50,">>158920620 (((((Old Testament))))) Nice try Shlomo. You're not fooling this vegan goy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517545550 158914153,158921050,2018-02-02 04:26:26,">>158920822 Your ex's dad isn't representative of those involved in the industry. Slaughtering an animal becomes second nature and no big deal. The real harshness is when you have to bludgeon a young calf to death with a tire lever because they won't make it. But even then, you're offering a merciful death. Sure, it's a shitty situation, but it's not a thing you lose sleep over. Even if you're soft, it'll only really bother you the first few times.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517545586 158914153,158921081,2018-02-02 04:26:53,">>158920898 Bacterial protien still requires feedstocks. Ramping that up to try and feed the world on it could run into issues. Saying it's better for the environment is premature.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545613 158914153,158921109,2018-02-02 04:27:23,">>158920822 Fish have a limited in intelligence they communicate with others and live together in groups some fish even mate several times together. Oscar fishes can be taught to do simple tricks in captivity. Factory farming is completely unnatural these symptoms would not exist if humans were hunting non-domesticated animals which are local to their area",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545643 158914153,158921126,2018-02-02 04:27:35,">>158921019 The Jewish caricature you're referring to doesn't have anything to do with the Israelites of the Bible. I don't read the Old Testament as a literal history. God allows people to eat meat just as he allows man to slay man, temporarily - so that the elect may eat both in the judgement. God cares about the animals. Common sense tells you this.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517545655 158914153,158921146,2018-02-02 04:27:59,">>158921050 That sounds awful.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545679 158914153,158921172,2018-02-02 04:28:31,">>158920903 >What will be the reason to keep pigs and cows once meat is banned? Cows for milk, pigs for pets. Pigs are super cute and extremely intelligent.",,Anonymous,forget-teacup-puppies--mini-pet-pigs-are-here.jpg,sp5MpgsthT3vJSySFQdc6Q==,US,,1517545711 158914153,158921239,2018-02-02 04:29:26,">>158920503 Vegan lifestyle produces less pain and suffering, how can it not be morally superior?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1517545766 158914153,158921262,2018-02-02 04:29:52,">>158920620 >4Abel, on his part also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of their fat portions. AndtheLordhad regard for Abel and for his offering; Did you miss this part? 9:3 contradicts you as well. Where's the blood debt promised to the animals?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517545792 158914153,158921306,2018-02-02 04:30:48,">>158921172 Man-made breed cows used in modern milk production are artificially impregnated and the milking industry uses all male cows go to Veal slaughter Modern big business cows are kept pregnant in addition to supplements to increase milk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545848 158914153,158921307,2018-02-02 04:30:50,">>158914153 Yeah, tell that to Jordan B. Peterson.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545850 158914153,158921335,2018-02-02 04:31:22,">>158921081 I’m not saying use it to feed the world, but there’s no denying the one of the causes of climate change (inb4 HURR NOT REAL) is farming",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545882 158914153,158921339,2018-02-02 04:31:25,">>158921172 These modern cows are so unnatural some breeds if not milked develop diseases and health problems",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517545885 158914153,158921354,2018-02-02 04:31:43,">>158920903 >You are condemning these animals to a fate worse than death, you are condemning them to non-existence. >being this retarded Sorry.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1517545903 158914153,158921419,2018-02-02 04:32:38,">>158921335 Sure. Methane, produced by bacteria.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517545958 158914153,158921420,2018-02-02 04:32:38,">>158920889 Perhaps you're right. I've never been involved in any fishy industries. But I don't see how it could make up for the economic loss from eradicating meat. Especially so in a farmed fish environment. >>158920898 Environmental concerns should be secondary to economic concerns. There's no point in having a happy and healthy world if we're not able to enjoy it. Sad, but true. I also have doubts over the environmental impact of eating meat. Sure, it's damaging. But is there a viable alternative that's significantly less so? >>158921146 It can be. It really sort of hit home after working with a backpacker. She cried after hitting a kangeroo for the first time. A few weeks later she was witnessed me putting down a calf, resulting in me getting blood splattered over my face. She didnt bat an eyelid. Nor did she avoid helping out when it came to slaughtering sheep some days later. Humans are able to adapt to harshness's quite easily. It's all a matter of perspective and experience. When you understand the reasoning behind things youre able to accept the realities behind the need for those shitty things you do.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517545958 158914153,158921450,2018-02-02 04:32:59,">>158921172 Spoken like a city boy. Pigs grow large and will wreck your house. They're not pets.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517545979 158914153,158921487,2018-02-02 04:33:34,">>158920903 What’s the point of keeping people around? You’re condemning them to non-existence and neetdom! ?????",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517546014 158914153,158921495,2018-02-02 04:33:39,">>158920557 I already said that perhaps the practices in Norway (Europe) may be different. Your continent has banned the use of GMOs, Americans have not. That's a pretty stark difference. I'm not being dishonest, but I don't think you're aware of how prevalent dairy products are in a lot of European foods. Most bread products have milk and butter in them. Anyways, I don't see the point in this anymore. You're committed to your worldview as wrong as I think it is, and I'm committed to mine as wrong as you think it is. I think it's fair to say that neither of the options are perfect in that both will come to have health problems. But in being vegan, even if it was proven that it had some detrimental health consequences I would still probably do it. It's a moral decision at the end of the day. I hear the pain in the animals. Perhaps some day you will too. Perhaps not.",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1517546019 158914153,158921496,2018-02-02 04:33:39,">>158921050 Sounds like you destroyed your own brain mate. If you're able to kill babies without feeling anything, you've lost the one thing which differentiates humans from lower life forms.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517546019 158914153,158921536,2018-02-02 04:34:14,">>158921262 >Did you miss this part? No, I didn't miss that. People HAD been eating and consuming animals prior to Covenant with Noah. God had regard for the faithfulness of Abel's offering - NOT the fact that he offered animals. God hadn't told Abel ""Give me animals"". >9:3 contradicts you as well. How does 9:3 contradict me? >Where's the blood debt promised to the animals? The covenant with Noah, his sons, and ALL LIFE includes the accounting in blood.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517546054 158914153,158921543,2018-02-02 04:34:24,">>158920735 >It was a response to you claiming humans have an initial desire to cook. I never claimed humans had an initial ""desire"" to cook, I claimed that because meat was available and it wasn't safe for humans to eat, humans found a way to make it less harmful. There were a lot of diseases that the human immune system wasn't capable of dealing with back then. Cooking that meat solved the problem by killing the bacteria, viruses and parasites inside. >Raw meat has always been safe to consume But only if you bleed the animal first, go drink a pint of blood, then get back to me. There is still a form of food preparation neccesary before a human could even eat raw meat, let alone cooked meat. >and you are a liar and completely misinformed. A lie is told when someone claims something they KNOW to be untrue, being misinformed means you DON'T KNOW if it's true. Either call me a liar or call me misinformed, but I know you're not coming from a position of good faith at this point. >Raw meat has been eaten by humans for the majority of Human Experience and it's only unsafe now because of unnatural factory farming unsafe standards The fire was invented approximately 250.000 years ago, we've got confirmed cooking utensils from 20.000 years ago in China. What factory farming did they do in 17.982 BC?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1517546064 158914153,158921592,2018-02-02 04:35:12,">>158921306 In 100 years society will be completely different, we can't even imagine it, just like people in 1918 couldn't imagine 2018. I really fucking doubt we would have factory farming in 100 years. Almost all young people are against it, at least on the coasts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517546112 158914153,158921632,2018-02-02 04:35:50,">>158921496 I quite specifically mentioned that I feel, as does everyone i've worked with or spoken to, something when taking the life of an animal. Perhaps you've destroyed your brain.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517546150 158914153,158921746,2018-02-02 04:37:56,">>158921420 Well yeah, you're obviously artificially restricting things by arbitrarily not using a source of food.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517546276 158914153,158921751,2018-02-02 04:37:58,">>158914153 This isn’t related to politics Don’t post your food cult rubbish again Thanks",,Anonymous,,,,,1517546278 158914153,158921808,2018-02-02 04:38:47,">>158914355 >>158914334 >>158914509 youre literally schizophrenic get help",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1517546327 158914153,158921811,2018-02-02 04:38:49,">>158921450 Not everyone lives in the city. Rural people would get pigs as pets, as they do already in many parts of the US. I live in a city, but I have moderately sized backyard where I could keep a pig theoretically. >>158921339 Milk is good. Vegans who don't drink milk are retarded. Milk will still be allowed in the vegan regime",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517546329 158914153,158921818,2018-02-02 04:38:56,">>158921335 A lot of that data is bullshit. They attribute cows as being the biggest green house gas producers without disclosing their diet and lump in the carbon cost of deforestation for pasture and other bullshit. Considering bovine animals used to live in multitudes more than we currently have in the world (and animals in general), don't you find it odd we weren't heading towards certain doom long ago? https://youtu.be/F0ofeD8VKMA This guy was one of the first people to claim mam made climate change btw. How the fuck can it be heretical to make claims in science. This should always be a red flag. Deforestation is not even necessary for farming.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517546336 158914153,158921833,2018-02-02 04:39:09,">>158919984 This is complete bullshit. There is not even a chance that this is true and I can tell that you've never tried to survive in the wild before. Before agriculture, it would have been almost impossible to gain enough calories from gathering plants alone. In fact, our bodies run on mostly protein and fats, the vegetables are supplementary, not the other way around. Hunting was primary, gathering was secondary. An overwhelming amount of archaeological evidence completely debunks any possibility that your insane worldview is correct.",,Anonymous,1504891691133.jpg,+WQXCZCWYfwCzIRAZWoIvg==,,,1517546349 158914153,158921878,2018-02-02 04:39:46,">>158921751 Your flag and whining isn’t related to politics. Don’t post your crying again Thanks",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517546386 158914153,158921946,2018-02-02 04:41:06,">>158921632 So why do it? Why put yourself and other life through unnecessary suffering? Don't fool yourself like you can't live without meat. Granted, I don't know anything about Australia. Maybe in the Outback, there really is nothing else to eat but meat. If that's the case, then go ahead. But if you live in like Sydney or something, why not just go vegetarian? You won't feel shitty from killing things anymore.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517546466 158914153,158921963,2018-02-02 04:41:19,">>158921495 Most bread doesn't have milk or butter in them. What are you even talking about. It's very specific beads that do, and again the amounts are almost negligible. Are you retarded? Health is not something that can be acquired forever, but balance is what is most healthy for us. We are omnivores, not grass grazers.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517546479 158914153,158922002,2018-02-02 04:42:08,">>158920112 Killing a human could be done quite painlessly. If I was into it, I could offer young boys a ride - use a bolt-gun on them when they're not looking, finish the boy off by cutting his throat, and have fun with his body. Besides, livestock in Australia routinely end up dying brutal deaths. Even horses - who are often one of the best cared for animals often end up getting burnt to death during bushfires because owners can't be bothered trying to save them. I've seen this happen in person. You're minimising the reality of suffering for these animals. Suffering that's entirely unnecessary.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517546528 158914153,158922029,2018-02-02 04:42:40,">>158914918 do you destroy your own home? I think not, I think you look after it. You don't walk around destroying your house",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517546560 158914153,158922111,2018-02-02 04:44:01,"I have nothing against veganism in principle. It doesn't make sense to treat cats and dogs with dignity and torture cows and pigs to death. But on a practical level, who in their right mind would want to eat beans instead of cheese, steak and eggs?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517546641 158914153,158922113,2018-02-02 04:44:06,">>158922002 >If I was into it, I could offer young boys a ride - use a bolt-gun on them when they're not looking, finish the boy off by cutting his throat, and have fun with his body. The fact that you would even think about this is proof murdering animals has done severe damage to your brain.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517546646 158914153,158922124,2018-02-02 04:44:19,">>158920638 Of course we should do that too. >instead of making it harder/less efficient for others Hard times make strong men.",,Anonymous,,,,,1517546659 158914153,158922211,2018-02-02 04:45:29,">>158921536 He made a covenant to not drown us, not an accounting in blood. 9:3 bids us permission to eat everything alive that moves, excluding the blood. Read it again, and whilst you're at it 9:2. Plus wasn't your original claim that the old testament made it clear we're to be vegan? He said as he gave us plants to eat he now gives us meat.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517546729 158914153,158922274,2018-02-02 04:46:43,">>158922111 Go prescetarian. I eat eggs and drink milk. I eat fish but no meat from animals.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517546803 158914153,158922276,2018-02-02 04:46:44,">>158914153 I love violencia, I die for violencia!",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1517546804 158914153,158922277,2018-02-02 04:46:44,">>158917003 Plant agriculture is very heavily subsidized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517546804 158914153,158922291,2018-02-02 04:46:56,">>158914153 Getting your body in a state of ketosis good. Veganism will not provide vitmins B12, K2, the fatty acids that are essential like Omega 3, among other things. Watch the anti vegan stream. Down with the vegan agenda.",,Anonymous,1486266407552.gif,1WcoKLCjLKSw4rHmioW99g==,US,,1517546816 158914153,158922371,2018-02-02 04:48:14,">>158922111 Who is torturing their animals? Especially here in Finland, our animals are treated among the best in the world. You should know a lot of our meat and dairy comes from family farms.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517546894 158914153,158922410,2018-02-02 04:49:02,">>158922277 True but even then, meat is still more expensive than staple crops. It's just how it is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517546942 158914153,158922454,2018-02-02 04:50:00,">>158922371 Factory farms run by the unscupulous can get rather horrific. That's not the norm though.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517547000 158914153,158922479,2018-02-02 04:50:27,">>158921946 Because of the loss of the meat industry would destroy the country and have huge repercussions for the entire world. And, of course, there's some things in life you cant avoid. Feeling a bit shitty over killing a calf is a relatively minor and insignificant thing in the big picture. Avoiding discomfort seems to be the curse of the modern age. >>158922002 Sure, but humans aren't beasts. Apples and oranges. Also, you're quite mistaken. Sure, a lot of death occurs due to bushfires. But farmers take great care in minimizing the risks of fire and the associated loss of stock involved in bush fires. Perhaps if there were less regulations and ""green"" concerns over the controlled burning and clearing of land we'd see less destructive fire seasons in this country. No farmer just lets his animals die needlessly. If for no other reason than it's simply not a profitable thing to do. Not to mention the feelings that you develop for the stock you look after. The depression that goes along with drought is ridiculous.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517547027 158914153,158922615,2018-02-02 04:53:09,">>158922113 I'm a vegan. I'm using the scenario to point out how callous the other anon's thinking is. It's the very thinking serial killers actually go through - some have explicitly compared their victims to animals. Slaughterhouse workers (like the anon I'm responding to) are actually statistically over-represented as murderers. You can find cases of men killing children for no reason other than apparent sexual interest who were slaughterhouse workers. I make a connection. >>158922211 >He made a covenant to not drown us, not an accounting in blood. The covenant involves a series of statements - one involves never flooding the world again, the other involves an accounting in blood. >9:3 bids us permission to eat everything alive that moves, excluding the blood. Read it again, and whilst you're at it 9:2 It doesn't ""bid"" ""us"", it's a permission granted to Noah and his sons - they don't represent ALL people at all. >Plus wasn't your original claim that the old testament made it clear we're to be vegan? He said as he gave us plants to eat he now gives us meat. The second thing God says to humans is ""eat this shit that doesn't harm anyone!"", that's significant. It's significant that God only grants permission to the elect to eat meat in the immediate aftermath of a flood that destroys all vegetation. It's significant that God makes a promise that includes animals. I'm not claiming that God says all humans should be vegan. God is concerned with his elect, not barking out rules.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517547189 158914153,158922634,2018-02-02 04:53:36,">>158914153 I had a vegan gf. She had to visit the GP for regular blood checks to prevent deficit of minerals and shit. She said the the downside of being a vegan but there is nothing wrong to take supplements. She didn't crusade and didn't tried to change my diet. Yep, she is a clever girl/vegan",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517547216 158914153,158922650,2018-02-02 04:53:54,">>158922454 I'm completely against it. In an ideal world each family would keep a cow and meat sources of their choice as well as grow their own plants. There is enough space to do this, it's just getting bureaucrats to understand that they don't know shit about anything. Deforestation to create pasture was a mistake. Trees and pastured land should not be mutually exclusive, that was never how we existed.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517547234 158914153,158922685,2018-02-02 04:54:24,">>158922454 What do you know of, say, cattle? I'll give you a brief run down of how they spend the day. In the morning, the travel to water. Usually having a drink around 9am before camping up in the shade before it gets too hot. They move on when it cools off, walking only as far as is needed to find food. They then stay and eat before moving back to water to drink again around 9am. On feedlots, they get food and water without having to walk. It's the cow version of heaven. If you were to have a large open paddock and to feed cattle like you do at a feetlot, the cows would never leave the water and food course. So how is intensive feeding operations(feelot/factory farming) cruel? Animals only expend the absolutely minimum amount of energy required. They really dont spend much time running around and playing. Sure, young calves do. But you won't be sending them to a feedlot at that age.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517547264 158914153,158922753,2018-02-02 04:55:45,">>158922615 >I'm a vegan. I'm using the scenario to point out how callous the other anon's thinking is. Sorry mate, you both had Australian flags and I confused you two.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517547345 158914153,158922762,2018-02-02 04:55:58,">>158922291 Why did milk jar cut ties with Sv3rige and become a crypto kike? >>158922274 Fish are animals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517547358 158914153,158922865,2018-02-02 04:58:00,">>158922615 >It doesn't bid us permission, it bids Noah and his sons You mean the originators of the survivors of the human species? By your own logic, God only granted Adam and Eve permission to eat seed producing plants and not their sons and descendants. Where is the accounting in blood? If it's there, you can easily copy and paste it.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517547480 158914153,158922866,2018-02-02 04:58:01,">>158914767 Perfect justification for killing niggers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517547481 158914153,158922910,2018-02-02 04:58:45,">>158922762 >a fish >on par with the emotional intelligence of a pig or cow No",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517547525 158914153,158923019,2018-02-02 05:01:00,">>158922910 https://youtu.be/rqAmR1lEN0I",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517547660 158914153,158923025,2018-02-02 05:01:09,">>158922685 My degree was farming related, so a fair bit. I didn't say that all large scale farming operations were horrific, I said that ones run by the unscruplous can be. Full of dirty, sick animals basically rotting on their feet. It's not nice, but like I said, not the norm either. Those kinds tend to get shut the fuck down rather quick when people find out about it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517547669 158914153,158923092,2018-02-02 05:02:26,">>158923019 Mate. A tuna is not the same as an octopus, come on.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517547746 158914153,158923097,2018-02-02 05:02:33,">>158915061 I don't have any problem with people in Bangladesh or Zambia or whatever, or even in some US ghettos like Baltimore (where there's no grocery stores which carry vegetables or any non-processed foods) eating meat when they can't afford anything else. If you can afford not to eat it, there's no good reason to keep eating meat and contributing to unnecessary suffering.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517547753 158914153,158923105,2018-02-02 05:02:40,">>158922762 He got banned for life from YouTube. I don't think he cut ties with Sv3rige. As for crypto, maybe he's trying to get himself out of his living situation as quickly as possible. Hopefully he isn't holding bags right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517547760 158914153,158923132,2018-02-02 05:03:13,">>158922479 Let's just be frank - you have experience in an industry and you want to say ""hey look at me, I'm an expert"", but all it reveals is how dehumanised you are. >Sure, but humans aren't beasts. Apples and oranges. This is a dumb statement, I think you know that. >But farmers take great care... ""Farmers are great guys!!!!"" No. Farmers are not somehow inherently conscientious, caring, loving, compassionate. Certainly not farmers who breed animals to slaughter. They may SAY and even BELIEVE that they do - but you don't do this to animals. You use Australian examples but even within Australia we have plenty of examples of farmers, breeders, etc treating animals brutally. >No farmer just lets his animals die needlessly. If for no other reason than it's simply not a profitable thing to do. Sometimes it's more expensive to evacuate a bunch of animals than to allow them to burn to death and claim the insurance. This happens. This is an example of how the farmers think in general. >The depression that goes along with drought is ridiculous. True blue aussie battlers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517547793 158914153,158923167,2018-02-02 05:03:51,">>158923092 https://youtu.be/jGxOK-bS4NM",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517547831 158914153,158923268,2018-02-02 05:06:15,">>158923167 Show me smart tuna fish and I’ll reconsider",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517547975 158914153,158923348,2018-02-02 05:07:43,">>158922685 >It's the cow version of heaven You're insane",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517548063 158914153,158923356,2018-02-02 05:07:51,">>158922865 >You mean the originators of the survivors of the human species? I do not take the account of a worldwide flood as a literal historical account. Do you believe in talking snakes? >God only granted Adam and Eve permission to eat seed producing plants and not their sons and descendants. The story of the Garden of Eden says things about God's will... even most ""Christians"" acknowledge this. >Where is the accounting in blood? If it's there, you can easily copy and paste it. 9:5-6 And only your blood for your lives do I require; from the hand of every living thing I require it, and from the hand of man, from the hand of every man's brother I require the life of man",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517548071 158914153,158923459,2018-02-02 05:09:49,">>158923348 No, it basically is. No predators, looked after when you're ill, all the food you can eat, warm shed to sleep in when it's cold outside. They want for nothing and when it;s time to die you go cleanly, as opposed to being torn limb from limb while you're still alive.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517548189 158914153,158923643,2018-02-02 05:13:06,">>158923019 Be honest. Don't you feel bad eating octopus after watching that video? Everything wants to live. In the 21st century, we have the privilege not to kill to survive. Why not use it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517548386 158914153,158923709,2018-02-02 05:14:39,">>158922615 Sorry, missed this post. Slaughterhouse workers are overly represented in all areas of crime. It's more to do with the nature of the work being unattractive, which creates a demand for workers with little other options, rather than creating people who are more inclined to being psychopaths or what not. It's hard, bloody, pissy and shitty work. No one really wants to do it. Who would do it if they had a better option? >>158923025 Fair enough. I tend to take a defensive stand in conversations like this. There is far too much disinformation spread about. >>158923132 Hey, I'm no expert. I've just been around for long enough to have actually experienced things. It isn't a dumb statement at all. Beasts and humans are different. Killing a human is a terrible thing. To compare that to the slaughtering of a beast for the consumption of its meat is ridiculous and disgusting. How dehumanized must one be to think along those lines? How many farmers do you know who think like this? Sure, there must be some. But I'd be willing to bet any amount that they are the exception. A tiny percentage. I've risked my life working 20 hour days trying to fight fires to keep animals and land from being ravished. That's the norm. Have you ever witnessed hundreds of cattle walking around near death? Watching them drop dead when there's nothing you can do? It's a horrible thing to experience. You can be a dick and try and minimise it all you want. It just shows how little experience you have, the lack of knowledge surrounding these issues and the mental weakness that shows you to be a lesser individual. >>158923348 No, I've just spent many hours watching cattle. Learning to read cattle is one of the most important things when working with them. It can mean life or death.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517548479 158914153,158923734,2018-02-02 05:15:15,">>158923356 9:5-6 is a direct continuation from 9:3 which grants permission to eat meat but not the blood, as blood is for God. That's not an accounting of blood for us to not eat meat, that's a statement that we simply shouldn't consume blood. But a large flood did happen. The flood being a myth is a myth itself. Sediment layers the world over prove there was a flood, on top of the accounts over and over the world over of a great flood.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517548515 158914153,158923824,2018-02-02 05:17:04,">>158923643 I would not eat that octopus, but I have no problem eating it still. Of course everything wants to live, but in order for us to live something has to die.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517548624 158914153,158923897,2018-02-02 05:18:40,">>158923734 Anon if you believe in a literal worldwide flood and that Noah saved the kangaroos and wallabies on a literal ark, I can't really help you. Nice talking to you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517548720 158914153,158924019,2018-02-02 05:21:03,">>158923824 >Of course everything wants to live, but in order for us to live something has to die. You may claim this, but it isn't true. There are vegans who live their entire vegan life without contributing to any animals being killed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1517548863 158914153,158924047,2018-02-02 05:21:42,">>158923897 Nice substantiative argument you have there. You read God telling us we can eat meat and think it's instruction to eat plants only and you think I'm the special one. Sure. Whether the ark is real or not is beside the point, you're cashing out now because you know you lost.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517548902 158914153,158924205,2018-02-02 05:24:57,">>158924019 Plants need to die for vegans to live. If the world went vegan we'd have to deforest a lot more land than we do already, destroying entire eco systems. Unless we started growing things vertically in hydroponic systems, which uses ridiculous amounts of water and would fail if ever we were to lose electricity or the water supply was compromised.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517549097 158914153,158924448,2018-02-02 05:29:21,">>158924047 Anon I don't mean to insult your intelligence. I've talked to people who believe all sorts of things, but the idea of an actual historical global flood and the idea that the old testament is a literal historical narrative is something so beyond me that there's no point in communicating with you on it. I've already elaborated a series of points for you on this matter. Firstly, I never claimed that God ""tell[s] us"" you can or cannot eat meat. I made the point that the Old Testament scriptures show Gods intent and will and this includes a love for the animals. The scriptures clearly show God straight up telling his created man SPECIFICALLY to consume an exclusively vegan diet. This is clearly intentional on the authors' part. This is significant. Later on it clearly shows God granting NOAH a special permission to eat meat - at the very moment that he makes a promise to all created animals (you've repeatedly ignored my insistence that I don't read Noah as representing all men, you keep rephrasing it as ""giving US"" ""permission to eat""), I see this as significant. Now it IS relevant whether or not you believe the Ark was real. If you believe that Noah was a historical personage and technically the blood father of all of us - then maybe you could read this passage as somehow apply to us and thus granting us permission to eat meat. I don't read it that way.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517549361 158914153,158924528,2018-02-02 05:30:53,">>158924205 >If the world went vegan we'd have to deforest a lot more land than we do already, destroying entire eco systems. Not true because animals need way more plants as feed. 90% of soy goes for animal feed.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517549453 158914153,158924662,2018-02-02 05:33:32,">>158924528 >>158924205 >According to an estimate reported by the BBC in 2008, ""Cows and sheep need 8kg of grain for every 1kg of meat they produce, pigs about 4kg. The most efficient poultry units need a mere 1.6kg of feed to produce 1kg of chicken. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_feed#Fodder",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517549612 158914153,158924716,2018-02-02 05:34:30,">>158924528 That's for economic reasons. You feed cattle the cheapest, most nutritious thing you can get them. It's not because you absolutly have to do it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1517549670 158914153,158924882,2018-02-02 05:37:57,">>158924047 >>158924448 and sorry just to clarify again - I didn't mean to sound elitist. What I'm trying to say is that if you believe in an historical ark - it's just not an argument I can engage with, I'm not saying you're necessarily dumb for believing it or considering it as a possibility. >>158924528 Not to mention that animals cost significantly more to the ecosystem in terms of energy (fossil fuel) expenditure in transporting them while alive, transporting them as meat, refrigerating them (most plant material requires significantly less refrigeration, much easier to grow more locally), in terms of their output of methane, all the chemicals used to process them and avoid contamination, etc.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1517549877 158914153,158925144,2018-02-02 05:43:16,">>158924448 You don't read it that way because despite the text you prefer your own rather arrogant interpretation. Whether a flood happened or not doesn't hinge on whether Noah existed or not. If your interpretations are so loose why couldn't Noah exist with an allegorical flood? Why would god's rules for Adam and Eve be reflected on all of us yet not god's rules for Noah? What would be the point in including the tale of the ark at all? Simply to show God permits eating meat during times of crisis? Why did he not rescind this permission and why does the Old testament describe eating meat in other instances and which meats you shouldn't eat? I did not ignore it, I asked you why you have one rule for Noah and another for Adam and Eve at least twice now.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1517550196 187629378,187629378,2018-09-30 13:43:58,"Thread for all vegans, plant based superior humans and folks interested in the superior vegan lifestyle. Meatcucks allowed as long as they humblepost from there cucksheds. Veganism is the healthiest, environmental friendliest and the literally only morally acceptable diet. Vegans are the healthiest people on Earth and science and history have proven this. Meatcucks BTFO. The science-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw Vegans on average have a higher IQ, lower body fat percentage, stronger hearts, longer lives, healthier bodies and a happier life than carnists. There is absolutely nothing you cannot get on a vegan diet. Go vegan today. More science..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDS_th9WPLE",Vegan General,Anonymous,health-benefits-of-vegan.png,NknjJ/TG7B9oGVsUFKu08Q==,,,1538315038 187629378,187629524,2018-09-30 13:45:15,"eat some meat, faggot Sage",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538315115 187629378,187629534,2018-09-30 13:45:18,Plants can feel being eaten and killed,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1538315118 187629378,187630237,2018-09-30 13:51:36,Being vegan is the White thing to do. We will leave middle eastern death cults and their weird blood and killing obsession behind us.,,Anonymous,,,,,1538315496 187629378,187630470,2018-09-30 13:53:31,">>187630237 >White.",,Anonymous,0051YzF.jpg,dQOv7YiXOZIL1DIFQjDdEQ==,,,1538315611 187629378,187630511,2018-09-30 13:53:54,">>187629378 Daily reminder that if you don't know who pic related is and don't want to go full Ecofascism, you're practically a nigger",,Anonymous,_98512025_65f2bf54-f908-4cce-b55e-05cae35bc22f.jpg,z38inUZuBEzQ7zHWa06Kdw==,CO,,1538315634 187629378,187630589,2018-09-30 13:54:40,">>187630470 Read this and stop being ignorant",,Anonymous,6147qfvEj0L.jpg,kRxAWE6SPkWYZW6fxZ2AYA==,CO,,1538315680 187629378,187630772,2018-09-30 13:56:18,">>187629378 Heroin diet beats all.",,Anonymous,2aec5adaff6ea46885b6cf10b377d9ffc5db6a7e45d042d2f71aef993611d6ed.jpg,3AI0ndK3Bv2jJL3/Tk8bOA==,RO,,1538315778 187629378,187631050,2018-09-30 13:58:54,">>187630772 Heroin or vegan.... is there a difference?",,Anonymous,VEGAN LEGENDS.jpg,mtignxweHj6uiTkgpn67kQ==,,,1538315934 187629378,187631072,2018-09-30 13:59:06,">>187630237 This",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538315946 187629378,187631150,2018-09-30 13:59:49,">>187631050 Nice cherrypicking, faggot",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538315989 187629378,187631208,2018-09-30 14:00:23,>>187631050,,Anonymous,download.jpg,zUaWJp9Mn8EwFmJddYqmWQ==,CO,,1538316023 187629378,187631266,2018-09-30 14:00:58,">>187631050 .",,Anonymous,Nimai-Delgado.14.jpg,V2p6mC+hkeFFeigecQ1wsw==,CO,,1538316058 187629378,187631296,2018-09-30 14:01:15,">>187631050 Fag",,Anonymous,PLnluno9_400x400.jpg,9160mXwHtSmIsKHXP6tCBQ==,CO,,1538316075 187629378,187631535,2018-09-30 14:03:29,">>187631050 All the people I'm posting are vegan btw",,Anonymous,Jon-Venus.jpg,dzQXI8yWsw8h984hzIcHHw==,CO,,1538316209 187629378,187631687,2018-09-30 14:04:59,">>187631208 lol what has that dude been vegan about two or three months? Why don't you post some pictures of the LONG TERM VEGANS?? I know you won't but I will lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU",,Anonymous,Follow Arnolds way to superior Vegan Dental Health.jpg,Wbs0BMnfsPUghMg9zEHSmg==,,,1538316299 187629378,187631768,2018-09-30 14:05:47,>>187631050,,Anonymous,clarence-kennedy-250kg-front-squ.jpg,hS0Y9gfZHXgJiElkNI+anw==,CO,,1538316347 187629378,187631963,2018-09-30 14:07:35,">>187629378 Just had two grilled New Zealand Lamb burgers with garlic and Ghost Chili pepper.. yum.. also two hard boiled eggs...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538316455 187629378,187631972,2018-09-30 14:07:40,">>187631687 It clearly says he's a long-term vegan you fuck. Both >>187631266 and pic related have been vegetarians from birth, and became vegan around 7/8 years ago. No meat, faggot.",,Anonymous,Screen-Shot-2015-11-01-at-1.30.19-PM.png,bKsco1rFPTPj5IfbtCRHrw==,CO,,1538316460 187629378,187632057,2018-09-30 14:08:35,">>187629378 i'll just leave this here",,Anonymous,greenbaby-soyboy.jpg,y9q2rVjniXBkiCsqYHH7eA==,US,,1538316515 187629378,187632069,2018-09-30 14:08:41,">>187631687 You know i can be here all day, right?",,Anonymous,xhJZHiJA.jpg,yP/hfjgeWiRtDg/DZ9Nbig==,CO,,1538316521 187629378,187632207,2018-09-30 14:10:06,">>187629534 this. plants are just a slower life form than animals but they are on the same level.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1538316606 187629378,187632277,2018-09-30 14:10:48,">>187632057 https://www.mensjournal.com/health-fitness/americas-strongest-weightlifter-kendrick-farris-100-vegan/ I'll just leave this here",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538316648 187629378,187632288,2018-09-30 14:10:59,">>187631208 this guy used to pump steroids and has huge fat reserves, he can be vegan for 10 more yaers and stiill has reserves of vitamin stored.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1538316659 187629378,187632461,2018-09-30 14:12:29,">>187632207 >>187629534 Plants do not have a nervous system and cannot subjectively experience pain. They are non-sentient. However even if what you say is true, goinf vegan still reduces suffering more because you're only eating plants, instead of plants and animals, in addition to feeding said animals.which causes way more suffering",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538316749 187629378,187632640,2018-09-30 14:14:04,">>187632288 >this guy used to pump steroids Non sequitur, non-vegans juice too. Alsp you need to prove that he juices >He's fat so he has more vitamin storages What about >>187632069? He's a calisthenics vegan, no problem there",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538316844 187629378,187632816,2018-09-30 14:15:34,">>187631687 >t.",,Anonymous,tag.png,4virCphjWMH0/BnX9/TptA==,DE,,1538316934 187629378,187633031,2018-09-30 14:17:30,">>187631972 >No meat. >Faggot. No offense but those terms are synonymous (means the same thing) Both words mean the same thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2srvfuLS8Tg",,Anonymous,Are all vegan men gay.jpg,mqZWlkT2qg4/kMDpntjQIw==,,,1538317050 187629378,187633532,2018-09-30 14:22:02,">>187633031 You sure love to cherrypick the soiboi leftist vegans, don't you? Yeah, there are leftist vegans, just like how there are leftist socialists. Doesn't mean there aren't nationalist/manly vegans like how there are nationalist socialists.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,vPjo6nFrbgIhqmLnbiPwxQ==,CO,,1538317322 187629378,187633691,2018-09-30 14:23:15,Bump,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1538317395 187629378,187633760,2018-09-30 14:23:50,">>187629378 Why are you a vegan pagan ??",,Anonymous,,,,,1538317430 187629378,187633768,2018-09-30 14:23:53,">>187633532 100% roids You're a fucking moron if you think vegans who look like that aren't on so much steroids that they're fucking their health up worse than if they just ate meat Tiny microscopic testicles",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538317433 187629378,187633877,2018-09-30 14:25:00,">People on a specific diet are healthier than people who eat anything >this is because this specific diet is so much healthier When will they learn",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538317500 187629378,187633887,2018-09-30 14:25:07,">>187629378 Vegans farts are horrendous even worse than the dogs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1538317507 187629378,187633904,2018-09-30 14:25:19,">>187633532 >be meathead and put on muscle >switch to vegan and maintain muscle while collecting consulting money from vegan retards nice gig desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538317519 187629378,187634114,2018-09-30 14:27:10,">>187633532 There cannot be nationalist vegans Senor el Estupido. Veganism is anti natalist, Veganism promotes infertility and castration. (Nationalism promotes motherhood and the continuation of the 'nation/race') veganism is leftism. Get out of antifa and stop starving yourself on a diet designed to kill you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw",,Anonymous,More Vegan Legends.jpg,XprbcMNAZ/AOcAzpcKTgOA==,,,1538317630 187629378,187634180,2018-09-30 14:27:46,">>187629378 STOOOOP that jewish vegan bunk science. It is going to kill you. It is only sustainable if you take supplements. It will kill babies. It makes people infertile. You need cholesterol and B-12 to have a functioning brain!!! aaaahaarhrhg",,Anonymous,1523394382681.jpg,t231fyAO5Oi+xGCS6DkVmg==,DK,,1538317666 187629378,187634328,2018-09-30 14:28:58,">>187633768 >100% roids >You're a fucking moron if you think vegans who look like that aren't on so much steroids that they're fucking their health up worse than if they just ate meat Roids are healthier than meat if done correctly, also if every other IFBB pro juices, why can't they? Roids are vegan and it's part of the industry. Also don't assume that meat eaters aren't takinf shit and just getting natty results off of meat, that's equally retarded. >>187633904 someone hasn't read the thread",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538317738 187629378,187634431,2018-09-30 14:29:52,">>187633768 This is clear. My man MilkJar roasted Hench Herbivore, a 'vegan' bodybuilder who is starting to show the horrific effects of his unnatural diet in his face, his face looks like it's collapsing in a sickly way (like all long term vegans regardless of steroid muscles or not lol) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJo0WUIQGk8",,Anonymous,0009ef3b.jpg,vBEZlF0Ma+k0fgm4rXoMbA==,,,1538317792 187629378,187634532,2018-09-30 14:30:44,">>187631208 >>187631266 >>187631296 >>187631535 >>187631768 >>187631972 >>187632069 Supporting big pharma like the jewish slaves they are. nice",,Anonymous,1523795630300.png,mx0PwZ31yyQHXm26IMi4CA==,DK,,1538317844 187629378,187634629,2018-09-30 14:31:28,">>187634114 http://aryanism.net/culture/veganism/ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism (it's not the same i know, but similar) https://www.vice.com/amp/en_ca/article/evb4zw/why-so-many-white-supremacists-are-into-veganism Read something other than ""how to fuck your cousin"" every once in a while, Cletus; you might learn something",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538317888 187629378,187634727,2018-09-30 14:32:26,">>187633760 >>187634180 Fuck me, nobody bothered to check the 'scientific proof' provided in the OP. Lol what can a goy do?",,Anonymous,Healthy Robust Vegan Teeth2.jpg,I9n0wHN6PZ7dBHKXrKX67g==,,,1538317946 187629378,187634829,2018-09-30 14:33:13,">>187634629 Hitler was a faggot who wanted German men to live off of onions. Had he had balls, we wouldn't have jews today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538317993 187629378,187634955,2018-09-30 14:34:18,">>187634532 >supporting jewish pharma >let me eat this pork chop and live off statin drugs due to my high cholesterol! Are you retarded?",,Anonymous,1537892665068.jpg,8m7cZQ+FedmYHsvUNgNTwQ==,CO,,1538318058 187629378,187635084,2018-09-30 14:35:29,">>187634431 Vegan gains and Ask Yourself destroyed MilkJar, so there's that >>187634829 that ""faggot"" killed more kikes than you ever will see in your life",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538318129 187629378,187635394,2018-09-30 14:37:57,">>187635084 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDS_th9WPLE hermano pendejo, vegans are a non-stop joke, a never ending source of lols. Vegan men are the ultimate newmale cucks. What part of ""their fucking teeth are falling out lol"" do you not understand?",,Anonymous,Arnolds Way to Dental health.jpg,F7//Ezd2WsROYP1liENeKA==,,,1538318277 187629378,187635545,2018-09-30 14:39:18,">>187634114 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pICQXC8SQ5w The topic of anti-natalism has been debated in the community, so it's not unanimous, in fact it's controversial and it looks like the natalists may be winning Pic related, hes doing his part for the white race",,Anonymous,we-are-having-a-baby-370x297.jpg,hqHZ7Hf4v4vmbdgjxSxtjQ==,CO,,1538318358 187629378,187635799,2018-09-30 14:41:28,">>187635394 >their fucking teeth are falling out lol"" do you not understand? The part where you stop chosing very specific examples of idiots who are into ""raw veganism"" and naturopathy and all that crap. A few (or more than a few) idiots do not discredit an idea. Look at the number of dumbass NPC ""Neonazis"" that do goon marches, does that discredit white nationalism?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538318488 187629378,187636093,2018-09-30 14:44:02,>>187629378,,Anonymous,vegan food.jpg,LeZU1DUI9qzx+Z0tGP6SnA==,IE,,1538318642 187629378,187636110,2018-09-30 14:44:10,">>187629534 False. No nervous system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538318650 187629378,187636171,2018-09-30 14:44:41,">>187634431 >collapsing its called aging you might not realize it in your 20s but when you hit 40s your skin will start to wrinkle and droop no matter what you eat",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1538318681 187629378,187636208,2018-09-30 14:44:58,">>187635545 Bro you are posting images of a 0.01% of vegan poster boys and professional model vegans. Meanwhile the rest of the 99% of vegans get sicker and sicker and etc with age>>187635394 Vegan men get vascectomies (castration) to please their man-hating witch vegan cougar girlfriends. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkAHfNZVXoY Are you a spanish speaker, or lost American in SA?",,Anonymous,Freelee Castrates her Soyboys.jpg,Pk9eTYaxzaKHs/YE7te5jA==,,,1538318698 187629378,187636252,2018-09-30 14:45:24,">>187631296 Corey is the man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538318724 187629378,187636495,2018-09-30 14:47:28,">>187636093 https://www.pinterest.com/runnergirl20104/vegan-desserts/ Nice meme tho",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538318848 187629378,187636533,2018-09-30 14:47:43,">>187636171 Vegans age in a particularly rapid and horrifying fashion my man. When Freelee crashes it's going to be fucking hillaryous beyond words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HG1KDGfR18s",,Anonymous,Manic Skeletal Vegan.jpg,HMxD1+jN1E4L1PHrG5gSCw==,,,1538318863 187629378,187636534,2018-09-30 14:47:42,">>187634328 >Roids are healthier than meat if done correctly You're retarded. Maybe a tiny bit of roids is generally better than eating fuckloads of factory farmed meat, often breaded and deep fried in canola oil. Like most meat eaters do",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538318862 187629378,187636609,2018-09-30 14:48:23,">>187634431 Imagine thinking milkjar is smart. There is no hope for you.",,Anonymous,1530193466776.png,JDsSt9r1BWEAEbWcqGRnwg==,US,,1538318903 187629378,187636722,2018-09-30 14:49:21,">>187629378 Show flag faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538318961 187629378,187636738,2018-09-30 14:49:29,">>187636533 you hide behind a memeflag and spew disinformation. veganity and longevity correlate strongly",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1538318969 187629378,187636765,2018-09-30 14:49:44,">>187631535 Are you gay? why are posting roid boys?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538318984 187629378,187636862,2018-09-30 14:50:38,">>187636208 >Meanwhile the rest of the 99% of vegans get sicker and sicker and etc with age The Adventist 2 study disproves your tremendous asspull https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4191896/ Also, vid related https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hGQTpxjbwaM I am indeed born and raised spic.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538319038 187629378,187636883,2018-09-30 14:50:49,">>187636738 Based fin",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319049 187629378,187637016,2018-09-30 14:51:56,">>187636738 the only correlation I found was a tendency for teeth to reject vegan hosts bodies and seek better lives elsewhere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw",,Anonymous,Here is your future Vegans.jpg,hzaA6PVFUEn9IVN77H+tLw==,,,1538319116 187629378,187637107,2018-09-30 14:52:43,">>187636093 >nigger comprehension of a plant based diet >meat eater intellect on par with that of niggers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319163 187629378,187637142,2018-09-30 14:53:02,">>187637016 Show flag faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319182 187629378,187637150,2018-09-30 14:53:07,">>187636722 Watch the video ""science"" in the OP faggot.",,Anonymous,Average nutjob Vegan.jpg,LCH63CrRrZZjWIIu/TKzNQ==,US,,1538319187 187629378,187637288,2018-09-30 14:54:23,">>187637150 Don't post controversial disinfirmation shit with a memeflag dipshit. Instead how about you kill yourself yourself youself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319263 187629378,187637307,2018-09-30 14:54:31,">>187636534 >You're retarded. Maybe a tiny bit of roids is generally better than eating fuckloads of factory farmed meat, often breaded and deep fried in canola oil. A properly planned administration of PEDs/steroids is not harmful: The thing is like all drugs, it had originally a medical function but now is also used for competition/recreation. That's why old men if they want go through hormone treatment because their natural testosterone levels are in decline as they age. That's not how bodybuilders use it tho and why you see all the problems that they have.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538319271 187629378,187637327,2018-09-30 14:54:46,">>187629378 Regarding my experience with veganism, I managed to go from a chubby slob to running half marathons in 6 months while losing 40lbs, all the while drinking at least 2 bottles of wine a day I felt great, so I'm convinced that getting most of my nutrients from beans, oatmeal and vegetables is pretty good for me Still a depressed alcoholic after 5 years, but at least I have abs now",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1538319286 187629378,187637409,2018-09-30 14:55:33,">>187637107 it's one of vegan gains recipes",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538319333 187629378,187637413,2018-09-30 14:55:36,I knew this vegan woman online for about 10 years. She was super healthy and really into her diet. Problem is she got hit by a moving van while jogging and died. No joke.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319336 187629378,187637485,2018-09-30 14:56:16,">>187636252 He's great, sadly they almost tried to shut him down for being a bad goy",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,66JoKDGdd95kDjKT1YrN5A==,CO,,1538319376 187629378,187637530,2018-09-30 14:56:36,">>187636862 OK well your english is really good (no mistakes I could see) dump that retarded vegan diet before your mind starts to decay like all vegans over time. veganismo es por los estupidos y antifa.Veganism is a white girl suicide club. You just got caught in the net lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlDfjnEoR8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzxVmblVmsM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpBjSVQSd6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyUGU6k4so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofGflB0y5IU",,Anonymous,Average Vegan Nutjob.jpg,BKdSkX7isqw1GCZxryJfDQ==,US,,1538319396 187629378,187637566,2018-09-30 14:56:54,">>187637016 Gum disease is a sign of inflammation in the digestive system which is massively exacerbated by protein deficiency Yeah meat can be inflammatory to your digestive system too but not really all that much compared to the benefit of actually getting enough protein for your body to fucking heal from the wear and tear of oxidization from food in general (which happens even if you're a vegan) and general muscle usage",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319414 187629378,187637591,2018-09-30 14:57:06,">>187636765 Because anon keeps posting skinny raw vegan soibois trying to prove a point, so I am countering",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538319426 187629378,187637649,2018-09-30 14:57:34,">>187637288 Wait a minute are those vegan tears?",,Anonymous,Natural Outdoor Kids.jpg,xC4Erefh1fvQd7qRTbaqDg==,US,,1538319454 187629378,187637826,2018-09-30 14:58:56,">>187637530 >dump that retarded vegan diet before your mind starts to decay like all vegans over time. Trust me, I know what I'm doing. Don't worry about me, worry about your arteries",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538319536 187629378,187637897,2018-09-30 14:59:38,"I haven't eaten animal flesh or discharge for 20 years, I am all muscle, fit and my teeth are almost perfect... Haven't been to a doctor or dentist in 10 years except to test for nutrient deficiency a year ago (everything was fine). OP is a faggot death worshipping moron",,Anonymous,1537606691781.jpg,8rrvYdZ97lMntuoCksccvQ==,US,,1538319578 187629378,187638019,2018-09-30 15:00:32,">>187637649 >the absolute state of fleshnigger arguments You do know most of us vegans have been raised around meat, right?",,Anonymous,download.jpg,OoK1ioILo8NAgavC/heeVA==,CO,,1538319632 187629378,187638024,2018-09-30 15:00:32,">>187637591 I'm posting what ALL (99%) FUCKING LONG TERM VEGAN MEN LOOK LIKE. You are posting the 0.01% of Vegan image makers and professional highly paid vegan models. (who will probably dump veganism before the long term harm kicks in)",,Anonymous,Mr skelton a Vegan.jpg,GHz2EkPStrPYJUGuyH+z/Q==,US,,1538319632 187629378,187638053,2018-09-30 15:00:50,">>187637649 >hurt durr vegans can't handle gore and pics of bacon Are you 12?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319650 187629378,187638118,2018-09-30 15:01:23,">>187629378 i am rather skinny that full of shit (((they))) put our food and degenerate us.",,Anonymous,1538092205085.jpg,fXDeyVbYfmbvtF3+6aVlqQ==,FI,,1538319683 187629378,187638237,2018-09-30 15:02:30,">>187637307 All drugs are inherently harmful All of them Even weed and full bodied red wine which I consume almost daily. Even Tylenol or aspirin. Your bias and disingenuousness makes me not care about your opinions If you really cared about your health you wouldn't use drugs to attain a superficial appearance of being in good health. Your diet and your roid usage is all part of an image, because you're a slave to pussy and will do literally anything possible to get laid. Fucking shitskin morons like you need to be sterilized",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319750 187629378,187638271,2018-09-30 15:02:48,">>187638024 No, what you are posting are mental retards who are also vegan and trying to prove a point I could post sv3rige videos all day and say eating meat makes you a sun-gazing schizo dumbfuck, but that would be a fallacious argumenr, wouldn't it?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538319768 187629378,187638278,2018-09-30 15:02:51,">>187638053 You totally took that wrong bro. I know you vegans love images of death porn and torture porn, it's practically all you watch and show others fuck. I was just showing a nice healthy dinner. Traditional, dinner.",,Anonymous,Fruitcake Raging Vegan.jpg,ay6JTB4r44EgvtMVbPqyXA==,US,,1538319771 187629378,187638425,2018-09-30 15:04:01,">>187638271 By all means post all the sverige pics and videos you want, please do!! (is this a thread about flat earth and sun gazing? Or diet?)",,Anonymous,average carnivore human.jpg,cmkWxPB6K+K8/W71DUQ7hQ==,US,,1538319841 187629378,187638503,2018-09-30 15:04:42,">>187638024 Eating a oreos and nutterbutters and drinking coca cola is a vegan diet. Just because a bunch of retards can't into nutrition does not mean animal flesh is required in their diet. You argument is also destroyed by the fact that there are millions of flesh eaters who are unhealthy in the same way as your examples. It's proof of ignorance of nutrition if anything. You are dumb as rocks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319882 187629378,187638522,2018-09-30 15:04:52,">>187637897 veganism causes deficiency in good cholesterol which drops your testosterone How many roiding vegan faggots are there nowadays, Christ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319892 187629378,187638617,2018-09-30 15:05:49,">>187638278 Just stop posting, you're so goddamn stupid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538319949 187629378,187638794,2018-09-30 15:07:15,">>187638237 >Your bias and disingenuousness makes me not care about your opinions >If you really cared about your health you wouldn't use drugs to attain a superficial appearance of being in good health. Your diet and your roid usage is all part of an image, because you're a slave to pussy and will do literally anything possible to get laid. Fucking shitskin morons like you need to be sterilized ...Are you myopic? When did I ever say that I'm on gear? I said that steroids are a drug and when administered as per prescription can be beneficial/symptom reducing, like all drugs (statins, anti retro-virals, etc.) If you want to argue about PharmaJew, that's a different topic which is interesting but not the main topic here. I don't juice, I'm on a weight loss journey since I was your stereotypical fat spiclet. I am doing this for my health because I was getting worryingly fat. This diet has greatly helped me, what are you even on about",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538320035 187629378,187638839,2018-09-30 15:07:47,">>187638503 It's all opinion anyway. If you think emaciation and teeth falling out is super healthy, how can I say otherwise? Anyone eating processed meat and fast food and junk food is not going to be eating healthy either.. That is just my opinion.",,Anonymous,Goji Man Vid.jpg,F2/1S06QnmPfoFawS42c3w==,US,,1538320067 187629378,187638910,2018-09-30 15:08:29,">>187638522 Testosterone should be boosted through your physical activity. Trying to avoid exercise and get the benefits of it through eating flesh is following nigger tier logic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538320109 187629378,187639220,2018-09-30 15:11:27,">>187632461 >Muh CNS >Muh behavioral preference God I hate vegans",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538320287 187629378,187639363,2018-09-30 15:12:49,Every cultured European should appreciate meat and include it in his/her diet!,,Anonymous,fadroewhale.jpg,cS2QdLNIUn1KHBags/xQlA==,HU,,1538320369 187629378,187639404,2018-09-30 15:13:06,">>187633532 Look at those FUCKING ONIONS FACES HOLY FUCK",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538320386 187629378,187639452,2018-09-30 15:13:36,">>187638425 https://instagram.com/domzthompson?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=o246kiqasetk >>187638425 https://instagram.com/simnettnutrition?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=23yunyf00o24 https://instagram.com/vegainstrength?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=1971i5ne3vrag I can keep posting fit vegans all day, no problem. Also for someone who eats only meat to look like a newbgains fag is just sad",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538320416 187629378,187639492,2018-09-30 15:13:56,">>187638794 You sound like every other angry vegan. This is what happens when you don't get enough cholesterol and healthy fats.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538320436 187629378,187639532,2018-09-30 15:14:22,">>187638839 The problem is lack of nutritional knowledge. Flesh consumption is not magic. A balanced plant based diet can achieve all the required nutrients for a human being to thrive and fulfill their physical potential. You are retarded for thinking somehow protein and minerals from meat are more magical than equal quantities from other sources.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538320462 187629378,187639623,2018-09-30 15:15:22,">>187638910 >Testosterone can be boosted through your physical activity. >Testosterone can also be boosted through eating flesh. doing both is more effective than doing just one",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538320522 187629378,187639724,2018-09-30 15:16:13,">>187639220 >I cannot possibly prove that plants experience feelings (including pain) subjectively, since they act on a stimulus/reaction basis, not unlike a ""biological computer"" >""MUH [Insert reductio ad absurdum, and poorly done too, here]""!",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538320573 187629378,187639745,2018-09-30 15:16:23,">>187629378 > meme flag > promoting veganism Why are you sorry little faggots replying to this not saging it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1538320583 187629378,187639913,2018-09-30 15:18:18,">>187639220 https://instagram.com/katyaelisehenry?utm_source=ig_profile_share&igshid=fm8jlas9vrib P.S. this kills the irish meat eater",,Anonymous,20180930_141704.jpg,/Jh2GohZ2O6pbCKjzTyYTw==,CO,,1538320698 187629378,187640048,2018-09-30 15:19:33,">>187638794 >can be beneficial You said harmless before That's a pretty big goalpost move I lived with a guy with a connection to roids and hundreds of clean needles. No interest. If you think they're so great why aren't you on them? >>187638910 I'm pretty sure there are many more bad health effects by being deficient in good cholesterol. I'm very certain, I just don't remember the exact effects. The biggest reason is just protein deficiency. A normal healthy person doesn't even have enough testosterone or free time to spend all day grazing on vegetables and be able to break down and synthesize a sufficient amount of protein. Thats why vegans mostly can't get beyond being skinny as fuck, with some people being an exception, until the diet catches up to them and destroys them. Have you even heard of antinutrients? There is no magical kind of food that humans should eat to improve their health. We should just eat more or less of some things or others, and maybe look to our specific ancestry and see what crops of foods our people ate up to and beyond 10,000 years ago to see which ones our genes are most adapt to function with",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538320773 187629378,187640073,2018-09-30 15:19:45,">>187639492 There are far angrier people in this thread, AFAIK pointing out inconsistent arguments and debunking non-arguments is not ""being angry""",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538320785 187629378,187640329,2018-09-30 15:22:09,">>187639623 >the more testosterone the better. No Also, greatly increases your risks for cancers and other health problems. Better to not worship and consume death.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538320929 187629378,187640402,2018-09-30 15:22:56,">>187639724 Plants experience you ending their life which you feel is bad. Reductio patronus absurdio is not a fallacy faggot",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538320976 187629378,187640441,2018-09-30 15:23:20,">>187639913 A nigger?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538321000 187629378,187640456,2018-09-30 15:23:29,">>187639745 He's against veganism dumbass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321009 187629378,187640534,2018-09-30 15:24:15,">>187629378 You have your own board soiboi, fuck off with your emasculating shit. >>>>>>/lgbt/",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1538321055 187629378,187640632,2018-09-30 15:25:06,">>187640048 Let me clarify, PEDs/steroids when done right, by people who have not been prescribed these things, are harmless. For those who need them, like men with test deficiency, benefits have been shown https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2686341/ Not moving the goalposts, I made a distinction and if it wasn't clear enough, now it should be. >if they're so great, why aren't you on them? Because I don't need them right now, I do intend to go on Test replacement when I get old",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321106 187629378,187640637,2018-09-30 15:25:09,">>187629378 Romans 14:2.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321109 187629378,187640690,2018-09-30 15:25:42,">>187640441 It's a meme, Irish men don't like big asses. New?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321142 187629378,187640762,2018-09-30 15:26:20,">>187640073 Because I tried not eating animal products much, believing the ""vegabism is healthy"" meme, and it only fucked me up and wasted years of my life I have more muscle than most people my size but developed joint problems and severe food allergies to all kinds of foods, mostly plant foods by far. Healed it with fish oil, fish, beef, and maybe fermented foods. But fish is the fucking biggest factor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321180 187629378,187640813,2018-09-30 15:26:50,">>187640402 >Plants experience you ending their life which you feel is bad. Show me how a carrot feels when I'm slicing it, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321210 187629378,187640838,2018-09-30 15:27:06,">>187640632 If it's harmless to someone who doesn't need them then WHY ARENT YOU ON THEM lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321226 187629378,187640869,2018-09-30 15:27:21,">>187640048 >muh protein deficiency Again, if you eat oreos and push pops exclusively you are vegan.... Just be cause retards don't realize what plant foods in what quantities contain required proteins doesn't mean these nutrients dont exist. >Choosing to be ignorant",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321241 187629378,187640911,2018-09-30 15:27:42,">>187632461 >Plants do not have a nervous system and cannot subjectively experience pain. They are non-sentient. plants experience pain too, just not the same way humans and animals do, how fucking retarded and close minded are you? also I have researched this topic. plants do have feelings, plants are intelligent and they even make choices. it's just not easy to see because they live very slowly.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1538321262 187629378,187641035,2018-09-30 15:28:54,">>187632461 >abortions are okay >don't eat eggs or drink milk though lmao kill yourself",,Anonymous,faggit.gif,Wfy4DauOOx6LxVR/zJoVHQ==,NL,,1538321334 187629378,187641038,2018-09-30 15:28:55,">>187634955 High cholesterol is caused by eating sugar, you subhuman retard. If you ate a carnivore diet you would never have that problem.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321335 187629378,187641141,2018-09-30 15:29:52,">>187640690 What? We Irish like Dick",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538321392 187629378,187641194,2018-09-30 15:30:14,">>187640762 Even though I would still object to you eating meat, if you really do think you can't do it due to physiology, That's fine. +90% plant based is still GOAT-tier, i recommend the blue zone diet if you haven't heard of it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Zone",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321414 187629378,187641342,2018-09-30 15:31:39,">>187640838 >then WHY ARENT YOU ON THEM lmao Because I want to see my natural limit first. I want to see how much I can lift and how good I can look while clean. I WILL eventually juice but only after I reach 45 years. That's when your test starts dropping by quite a lot.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321499 187629378,187641347,2018-09-30 15:31:40,">>187632461 >you're allowed to kill whoever you want as long as he or she doesn't feel pain",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321500 187629378,187641508,2018-09-30 15:33:01,">>187641035 >implying I support abortions Actually veganism made me very pro-life. I used to be a sargon-tier liberal before going vegan, I became more far-right due to my diet actually",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321581 187629378,187641523,2018-09-30 15:33:10,">>187640534 >soiboy Ironically, your average meat eaters is so nutritionally unaware they don't realize they consume ass loads of soi via all the packaged and fast foods they eat. Nutritionally aware vegans (not your your kike controlled op leftist types) do not usually consume onions regularly at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321590 187629378,187641562,2018-09-30 15:33:34,">>187640869 I didn't retard. I abstained from that shit and still continued becoming a spooky skeletal YOU LITERALLY CAN NOT EVEN ACHIEVE A HEALING LEVEL OF OMEGA 3 TO 6 RATIO without consuming fish or fish oil. The highest source of omega 3 in plant foods is still at 1/20th the omega 6 because the bioavailability is 10% and it's only 1/2 the omega 6 in the first place Fuck vegans are stupid lmao enjoy your Alzheimer's and degenerative disease in general",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321614 187629378,187641683,2018-09-30 15:34:41,">>187641342 But you just said it's not harmless when you actually need it So according to your logic it would improve your health if you started now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538321681 187629378,187641702,2018-09-30 15:34:49,">>187640813 It doesn't feel anything a cow doesn't",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538321689 187629378,187641738,2018-09-30 15:35:05,">>187641038 >High cholesterol is caused by eating sugar, you subhuman retard. >If you ate a carnivore diet you would never have that problem. I'm not even gonna comment on that kek >>187641347 cutting the fruit of a tree is not ""killing"", lad",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321705 187629378,187641841,2018-09-30 15:36:02,">>187641562 >YOU LITERALLY CAN NOT EVEN ACHIEVE A HEALING LEVEL OF OMEGA 3 TO 6 RATIO without consuming fish or fish oil. The highest source of omega 3 in plant foods is still at 1/20th the omega 6 because the bioavailability is 10% and it's only 1/2 the omega 6 in the first place >Fuck vegans are stupid lmao enjoy your Alzheimer's and degenerative disease in general Flax seed and/or EPA-DHA supplement. It depends on your genetics tho, that might be the problem",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321762 187629378,187641950,2018-09-30 15:36:56,">>187641683 >But you just said it's not harmless when you actually need it >So according to your logic it would improve your health if you started now Funny, my test levels are fine.",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538321816 187629378,187642320,2018-09-30 15:40:16,">>187641841 >u just have shit genes Nah, I was an insomniac doing night shifts. Basically aging myself prematurely. Degenerative disease will likely set in with old age regardless of your diet I was fucking talking about flax when I said it's still too low. ""EPA/DHA"" supplement from plant foods? I haven't seen such a thing. Again the bioavailability is at best 10% as well. So you'd need at least 10 times as much.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322016 187629378,187642360,2018-09-30 15:40:35,">>187639452 You can post outliers all day long, everybody knows what vegans look like IRL lol. Why are there so many ""ex vegans"" and why do they all say the vegan diet made them so sick they had to quit?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlDfjnEoR8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzxVmblVmsM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpBjSVQSd6k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gyUGU6k4so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofGflB0y5IU",,Anonymous,bite size vegan gets branded.png,icLUWc8x/JvKchRntSmo7g==,US,,1538322035 187629378,187642511,2018-09-30 15:41:54,">>187641562 >muh false memes Maybe your bloodline is lost. (((Their))) goal with feeding us flesh is to bind our souls to death. Those who develop actual dependence on flesh are bound to the abyss of Saturn. But that point is supposed to be centuries away. Muh omegas is false",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322114 187629378,187642563,2018-09-30 15:42:20,">>187641950 But if it doesn't fuck up your test levels or anything than doing roids would literally just give you more supporting muscle to protect from arthritis or just be available to catabolize instead of starving or having to be fat to not immediately start starving terribly when reaching calorie deficits",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322140 187629378,187642771,2018-09-30 15:44:16,">>187642511 Your brain is made up of omega 3 fats as well as 6. Without it you get brain damage and Alzheimer's and that's the least of the problems a deficiency in that causes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322256 187629378,187642874,2018-09-30 15:45:13,">>187642360 They quit because they didn't want to eat the plants with required nutrients in the right quantities. Just cutting meat and eating pasta, lettuce, junk food, and bread will make you feel like shit fast.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322313 187629378,187642902,2018-09-30 15:45:29,">>187639532 If someone is a expert, like a brilliant heart surgeon with super high IQ and advanced medical training? Maybe. I'm no genius, and neither are 99% of vegans. The vegans are sickly skeletons (except for the actual MD genius) and I'm totally fine, because dumb as I am.... I eat the complete diet my species is designed for (eat everything healthy incl meat) The one healthy vegan is the Medical Doctor Surgeon Dr. Joel Khan. (and with all his brains, he is still leading people astray with his advice) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtqCBimr6U",,Anonymous,DT Wirjub u.jpg,x1b4TMmRLfGFr2lXxLxOjQ==,US,,1538322329 187629378,187642927,2018-09-30 15:45:43,">>187629378 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q5JukUxlC0 A video explaining the benefits of celery in the diet.",,Anonymous,1534433420047.jpg,trw5VOf1jlwrxEDGQITNdw==,US,,1538322343 187629378,187642981,2018-09-30 15:46:10,">>187640637 >Romans 14:2. Amen.",,Anonymous,romans 14 2.jpg,ZHRnGPlqP57RQSem/lFEHQ==,IE,,1538322370 187629378,187643142,2018-09-30 15:47:24,">>187642771 With walnuts and other tree nuts and sufficient brain exercise your omegas will not deteriorate with cell replacement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322444 187629378,187643144,2018-09-30 15:47:25,">>187641141 Speak for yourself, Leo",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538322445 187629378,187643167,2018-09-30 15:47:41,">>187642320 https://alligga.com/conversion-of-ala-into-epa-and-dha/ Conversion of ALA (found in flax) to EPA/DHA depends on a number of factors, some genetic. That may be one explanation, kind of like how not everyone can tolerate lactose There are vegan ways to get EPA/DHA https://www.consumerlab.com/m/answers/are-there-vegan-friendly-substitutes-for-fish-oil-epa-and-dha-supplements/vegan-epa-dha/",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538322461 187629378,187643309,2018-09-30 15:48:56,">>187643144 Sorry white* dick",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538322536 187629378,187643405,2018-09-30 15:49:50,">>187641523 bROHAmster. 1. every fucking vegan youtube channel is pouring gulpfuls and gobfuls of soya powder into their zoylent green smoothies, they practically live on zoya and other mystery powders. but when they get here all the sudden vegans hardly consume zoy?? IDTS. 2. We are not talking about processed meat and junk meat consumers here. Dear Lord. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weRKlBGszhY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322590 187629378,187643494,2018-09-30 15:50:31,">>187642563 >But if it doesn't fuck up your test levels or anything than doing roids would literally just give you more supporting muscle to protect from arthritis or just be available to catabolize instead of starving or having to be fat to not immediately start starving terribly when reaching calorie deficits Could be possible, if you do your pre and post cycle right. That's where a lot of guys get it wrong, they don't know how to prepare to cycle and how to come off the steroids so they end up fucking up their endorine system Anyway I'm too broke for roids right now; again, I'll do them later",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538322631 187629378,187643592,2018-09-30 15:51:22,">>187642902 They need to start having nutrition class required in high school. I learned human basic nutrition when I was a kid, it doesn't make any sense to me that it is an ignored subject. Fucking morons like you that think nutrition is magical and meat contains all the power are just mind bogglingly retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322682 187629378,187643674,2018-09-30 15:52:09,">>187642874 Bullshit You would have to consume a literal fucking POUND of DRIED beans a day to get adequate protein That's like 2 pounds cooked. And it doesn't even work because your body can't break it down anywhere as easily as animal protein. I've tried. Enjoy ripping your colon to shreds with braps. I mean it's not that unhealthy short term but it's not fucking doable or useful long term in my experience",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322729 187629378,187643697,2018-09-30 15:52:23,">>187642981 >(((Paul the subverter)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322743 187629378,187643929,2018-09-30 15:54:21,">>187643674 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GUeIvgtPf_U Why do you fags lie so much?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538322861 187629378,187644003,2018-09-30 15:54:59,">>187642981 Who said vegans only eat vegetables?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538322899 187629378,187644060,2018-09-30 15:55:23,">>187643167 Growing flax is also easy.. And you get spinnable fibers from it too. I get like maybe 12 feet of thread a year from my little plot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322923 187629378,187644116,2018-09-30 15:55:52,">>187642981 1 Timothy 4 (KJV)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322952 187629378,187644168,2018-09-30 15:56:15,">>187643405 >every fucking vegan youtube channel Literally (((controlled opposition)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538322975 187629378,187644312,2018-09-30 15:57:24,">>187642927 Here is a video explaining the benefits of the raw vegan diet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unnzbghJB28",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323044 187629378,187644372,2018-09-30 15:57:48,">>187643142 >walnuts Lmao that will get you like 100 times as much omega 6. Using your brain a lot can cause atrophy and damage as well as any other muscle too, and require increased intake of omega 3. God damn brainlets. >>187643167 Like I said at best the bioavailability is 10% That doesn't address the protein deficiency anyway",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323068 187629378,187644502,2018-09-30 15:59:01,">>187644003 I hope you realize all the blue zones in the world eat animal products. Look it up",,Anonymous,1530891083630.jpg,fw/eiQJDYOb36iO8nt3cZQ==,US,,1538323141 187629378,187644558,2018-09-30 15:59:28,">>187643929 That guy talks like a psychopath and is jacked as fuck Roids 100%",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323168 187629378,187644579,2018-09-30 15:59:38,">>187629378 What exactly does this have to do with politics?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323178 187629378,187644783,2018-09-30 16:01:15,">>187643592 Stay triggered. Are you an ethical vegan, or will you quit when your teeth start falling out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw",,Anonymous,20 year vegan lol.png,7MODrchwmhRCg/qK6vQBqw==,US,,1538323275 187629378,187644814,2018-09-30 16:01:30,">>187644558 I say roids because he's a vegan No fucking natty vegans look like that, lmfao. None",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323290 187629378,187644956,2018-09-30 16:02:56,">>187643674 I have been eating about 3/4lb legumes per day for twenty years, its not my only source of protein. And if you body is used to having flesh clogging your digestive system then if you cut flesh from your diet you will have an upset stomach and diarrhea for a few days. However this is a detox. Once you digestive system adjusts to real food it is much more efficiently absorbed.... And beans do not cause excessive gas in non flesheaters because of the efficiency of absorption of plant matter by the human digestive system in the absence of meat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323376 187629378,187644976,2018-09-30 16:03:08,">>187629378 Oh hell I miss the old 4chan when people just shitposted and messed with people's lives. Now we have...this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1538323388 187629378,187645113,2018-09-30 16:04:23,">>187644956 See this>>187644502",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323463 187629378,187645115,2018-09-30 16:04:25,">>187644579 Actually it does, because veganism is a left wing suicide club for white girls, allied or part of the general antifa left wing movement, while the right is going more and more hard core towards eating meat, eating meat rare, raw, game meat etc etc etc all the way to Sv3rige. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unnzbghJB28 Which side are you on goy?",,Anonymous,1538249340521.jpg,Fa8PYzAwxy0MpnH4qRU2FA==,US,,1538323465 187629378,187645148,2018-09-30 16:04:44,">>187629378 Fruit tribe laugh Grug, say no breathe long time. Big ice come, no fruit. Who laugh now?",,Anonymous,oogaboogaaa.jpg,C+LILFIaR/NCs3m6pkg1sA==,US,,1538323484 187629378,187645153,2018-09-30 16:04:49,">>187644372 >use leads to atrophy if an organ. No, that's non use. Use it or lose it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323489 187629378,187645377,2018-09-30 16:06:51,">>187645148 Vegans will go cannibal instantly at the first power outage, they literally have zero fat to survive a cold winter (without power, without food or water) Or they'll die in days.",,Anonymous,Appeared on John Stossel Show.jpg,a65DLlZtj9uSD2gZZjpwuA==,US,,1538323611 187629378,187645496,2018-09-30 16:07:54,">>187644502 I know, I even linked it. Their consumption is so mininmal though, you might as well eliminate it completely",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538323674 187629378,187645516,2018-09-30 16:08:02,">>187645153 All muscles atrophy when used in excess. Your brain is no exception. Not getting adequate omega 3 means never using your brain too much without suffering brain damage",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323682 187629378,187645581,2018-09-30 16:08:34,">>187644579 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecofascism",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538323714 187629378,187645588,2018-09-30 16:08:41,">>187629378 Being a vegan and having a dick stuck in your ass... Is that a benefit?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323721 187629378,187645599,2018-09-30 16:08:45,">>187644783 I'm not an ethical vegan. I'm a vegan because it is one of the many requirements to restore the garden of my ancestors. My teeth are as strong as ever and show no signs of decay. My teeth will never fall out because of my diet, I understand what foods I need. Your disinfo is stupid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323725 187629378,187645692,2018-09-30 16:09:43,">>187645377 >Vegans will go cannibal instantly at the first power outage, they literally have zero fat to survive a cold winter (without power, without food or water) >Or they'll die in days. >what are nuts >what are canned legumes",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538323783 187629378,187645695,2018-09-30 16:09:44,">>187645496 Nope. That little bit is giving them vital nutrients. My grandma lived to be 103 eating animal products. And I can guarantee you ate animal products as a developing child that'll influence your health for decades to come. You're just a trendy vegan. Good thing your parents weren't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323784 187629378,187645791,2018-09-30 16:10:32,">>187645692 >what are nuts this i'm a vegan and i garble them daily",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1538323832 187629378,187645808,2018-09-30 16:10:39,">>187645588 Considering that vegan men are all faggots, with a husband, for them the answer is yes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2srvfuLS8Tg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323839 187629378,187645856,2018-09-30 16:11:08,">>187645599 Of you wanted to restore the earth you'd kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323868 187629378,187645878,2018-09-30 16:11:18,">>187645115 >left wing suicide club No, this is what the Jews with their controlled opposition are trying to paint veganism as to prevent non NPCs from considering giving up dependence on bred for slaughter species for sustenance. Are you a kike? Or do you just swallow Jewish memes?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323878 187629378,187645959,2018-09-30 16:12:01,">>187645856 >vegans >Restoring the Earth I never understood that retardation either",,Anonymous,Killing the earth for plant addicts.jpg,Tz+m/af1pwWonDuDDQGmRA==,US,,1538323921 187629378,187646050,2018-09-30 16:12:47,">>187644956 I've eaten a lot too for a while, half a pound dried, for months at a time, often not eating meat for 1-3 days at a time as well. Meat is still a benefit. Especially when I didn't have it for a few days. But unlike most people, I eat grass fed and free range, and lots of fish, and some eggs. I never fry it in oil or fat. Except eggs in butter and fish in olive oil. Almost always grill it all",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538323967 187629378,187646092,2018-09-30 16:13:05,">>187645878 Your first mission Schlomo?",,Anonymous,1506629170136.gif,AY6y62jCZ2km7V5pAPKRhA==,US,,1538323985 187629378,187646174,2018-09-30 16:13:41,">>187629378 >Eurocuck >Vegan Jesus Christ just end yourself already anon.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1538324021 187629378,187646207,2018-09-30 16:14:06,">>187645692 >canned beans Oh lawd imagine how much plastic xenoestrogens you'd get trying to eat enough canned beans to get enough protein. My god that would be a disaster. I hope you know ""BPA free"" is utterly meaningless",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324046 187629378,187646358,2018-09-30 16:15:19,">>187629378 I tried the Impossible Slider at White Castle last week. Pretty good not going to lie. They just need to work on the texture. Until then I'll keep eating regular sliders.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324119 187629378,187646471,2018-09-30 16:16:22,">>187645856 We will all die anon, however, bloodlines may embark on an evolutionary path to eternal life. Death is the final enemy and cannot be relied upon for sustenance by those who wish to find the gifts the creator left for us. The Jew has ensured our souls damnation to the abyss of Saturn by binding us to death through dietary memes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324182 187629378,187646557,2018-09-30 16:17:08,">>187644312 Vegans are humorless smarmy faggots. I'll pass.",,Anonymous,1538274816683.png,dPgC5upI9Cfb7NbADFPjFg==,US,,1538324228 187629378,187646572,2018-09-30 16:17:20,">>187645959 Factory farming is an abomination, on par with farming animals for food.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324240 187629378,187646617,2018-09-30 16:17:45,">>187629378 Kek more meat for me then grass eating kike",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1538324265 187629378,187646680,2018-09-30 16:18:19,">>187646092 I am 100% non Jewish white.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324299 187629378,187646806,2018-09-30 16:19:23,">>187645878 You could eat insects and get better protein than what you get from plants. In fact if everyone was forced to not eat meat they would develop a DESIRE to eat insects because they would be such a benefit due to the protein, relative to plant protein, which can be good but is pretty shit for a main protein source This is what the kikes want. Seriously, I'm not joking. All you vegans should try eating insects, I am certain with enough time you will end up wanting to eat them because they have better protein value. Fulfill your destiny and become literal bugmen",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324363 187629378,187646859,2018-09-30 16:19:52,">>187629378 I know one thing vegans cant get that meat eaters can.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324392 187629378,187646963,2018-09-30 16:20:54,">>187646572 Unless you dumpster dive, you are outcompeting some cow or some deer somewhere for food, (and they die for your greed) and more likely than not, you are paying for combine harvesters to rape and kill billions of small creatures for every slice of bread/green smoothie you consume.",,Anonymous,Animal Genocide in Progress.jpg,simr13D2Vu0rue3yvA1/nQ==,US,,1538324454 187629378,187646978,2018-09-30 16:21:00,">>187646207 True. Canned food is poison. Industrialized food production and distribution is saturnic and leads to death. People need to grow and harvest their own food. But we've sold our souls to (((civilization))) so we don't have the required time or space to live a real life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324460 187629378,187647035,2018-09-30 16:21:33,">>187646978 Why don't you try eating bugs?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324493 187629378,187647037,2018-09-30 16:21:33,">>187629378 why do you always do this. you post the same four videos about how veganism is bad. you do this on /fit too. the videos don't make any arguments they are just really ugly, unpleasant vegan people. don't you think you could make a better case against veganism. why are these four particular videos so attractive to you, why do you always do this? are you ok?",,Anonymous,1a2602e0477262e39a5945cb2465b89f.jpg,PNH3GMAcU3PvGjnD0Mc4CQ==,US,,1538324493 187629378,187647071,2018-09-30 16:21:54,">>187646806 >((()))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324514 187629378,187647102,2018-09-30 16:22:11,">>187646859 Castrated?? No-- all vegan men do that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkAHfNZVXoY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324531 187629378,187647213,2018-09-30 16:23:06,">>187646963 the meat you consume had to eat billions of small creatures too, in order to grow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324586 187629378,187647227,2018-09-30 16:23:14,">>187647071 I'm right and you know it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324594 187629378,187647239,2018-09-30 16:23:22,">>187646963 >it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324602 187629378,187647263,2018-09-30 16:23:38,">>187647102 Pussy, because vegans can't eat or touch meat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324618 187629378,187647377,2018-09-30 16:24:29,">>187647227 Hell I'll eat insects, I don't give a fuck. But I'd gladly die before allowing someone to take away our ability to eat meat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324669 187629378,187647389,2018-09-30 16:24:35,">>187647037 I'm OK bro, it's just so funny laughing at sickly deluded vegans. If they wouldn't be at war with us (to make meat illegal, and force me to eat their retarded unhealthy plants diet) I wouldn't do this. This is entirely self defense. (((They))) drew first blood.",,Anonymous,Dr_Michael_greger.jpg,tiiSUqkZIwM+7xf9cYK43w==,US,,1538324675 187629378,187647421,2018-09-30 16:24:51,">>187629378 Omar, is that you? It’s Steve.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324691 187629378,187647428,2018-09-30 16:24:54,">>187646806 You're an idiot.",,Anonymous,,,GE,,1538324694 187629378,187647519,2018-09-30 16:25:46,">>187647213 >cows eat animals",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538324746 187629378,187647563,2018-09-30 16:26:07,">>187647213 Condemn the Lions not me. We were born this way.",,Anonymous,93e8c9_.jpg,gVBiD0yTWGRu2c2LwzjmFQ==,US,,1538324767 187629378,187647569,2018-09-30 16:26:08,">>187646963 >it is physically impossible to grow all your own food on a small piece of land with a few nut bearing trees Retard Industrialized farming, its products, and $14.99(((green smoothies))) are saturnic capitalization and should be ignored by those who wish to abolish the Jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324768 187629378,187647591,2018-09-30 16:26:22,">>187634955 https://metro.co.uk/2018/09/18/doctors-find-no-evidence-linking-high-levels-of-bad-cholesterol-to-heart-disease-7954636/ https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/795139/statins-heart-professor-no-heart-deaths-risk-effect",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1538324782 187629378,187647607,2018-09-30 16:26:28,">>187629378 >OP claims to be vegan >OP clearly gobbles cock on a regular basis Something doesn't add up here",,Anonymous,1533815556323.jpg,oLlV4a8p57YdOqiP1sO0lg==,US,,1538324788 187629378,187647708,2018-09-30 16:27:14,">>187647428 You're a fucking moron suffering from cognitive dissonance. Insects have good protein value and your body will tell you to eat things that are beneficial to it. Vegans would be better off eating some insects than being strict vegans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324834 187629378,187647726,2018-09-30 16:27:28,">>187647263 >I don't know the meaning of veganism: the post Nice overused joke tho, haven't seen that ever",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1538324848 187629378,187647779,2018-09-30 16:28:00,">>187647035 Because I grow 90% of my own food. If I ate my bugs I'd get unwanted pests, poor soil, and other issues.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324880 187629378,187647793,2018-09-30 16:28:05,">>187647263 Ironically, zoyboy men have made themselves into pussy magnets for the brainwashed vegan thots. They're getting all kinds of pussy. Shame they were vascectomied, but they still enjoy the V.",,Anonymous,Maddie Limburner.jpg,2gYByLw6alJ3GVEb4rGMDA==,US,,1538324885 187629378,187647862,2018-09-30 16:28:43,">>187647779 That's not a real answer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324923 187629378,187647877,2018-09-30 16:28:48,"There is literally no way to obtain resources such vitamin b12 without consuming meat. eating fortified food and taking pills is not a healthy natural lifestyle",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1538324928 187629378,187647918,2018-09-30 16:29:11,">>187647519 cows need to eat grains to grow, so whatever vegans are killing by eating grains or whatever, cows are killing those too, probably at a higher rate than vegans",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324951 187629378,187647987,2018-09-30 16:29:57,">>187647569 Bro if you're independently wealthy good for you. The other 99% have to work and live and buy food. You still have fences around your crops?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538324997 187629378,187648094,2018-09-30 16:30:47,">>187647563 The lion is doomed to an existence of death worship. At this point in our evolution we have a choice to direct their bloodlines either way. Choosing to bind yourself to Saturn is absurd.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325047 187629378,187648157,2018-09-30 16:31:20,">>187647877 >There is literally no way to obtain resources such vitamin b12 without consuming meat. >eating fortified food and taking pills is not a healthy natural lifestyle Quite ironic that you say that",,Anonymous,vitamin-b12-supplements-for-deficient-livestock-farm-animals-960wh.jpg,TkR+QxnL2ZMhim7+UphuNw==,CO,,1538325080 187629378,187648165,2018-09-30 16:31:23,"this reminds me I need to slaughter some meat rabbits tonight, and get the crock pot going. (Its Thai Sunday!) Thanks OP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325083 187629378,187648170,2018-09-30 16:31:25,">>187647726 lol mad vegan retards, always rubbing their braindead stubborn beliefs in other peoples faces. The fact is faggot, is that humans are omnivores, which means that we eat plants and vegetables and not eating one or the other results in the lack of something. What did you not learn that in fucking 1st grade on the fucking food pyramid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325085 187629378,187648265,2018-09-30 16:32:02,">>187647918 Cows are sentient, cows have a life force and deserve to have a life unlike vegans.",,Anonymous,Swiss Pastures.jpg,ecmqbD+/Vh9tG+BsUqsanw==,US,,1538325122 187629378,187648301,2018-09-30 16:32:23,">>187642360 >you can post your outliers all you want >posts outliers also what is wrong with that fifth one. there are really better arguements against veganism than the ones you make",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325143 187629378,187648462,2018-09-30 16:33:49,">>187648094 You have semi coherent points, but then ruin it all with Saturn talk. Who is saturn? >>187648165 My pleasure bro enjoy.",,Anonymous,Steak Tartare.jpg,fgHPLiLjchBL8IoJFRlUiQ==,US,,1538325229 187629378,187648537,2018-09-30 16:34:29,">>187646557 you do know you don't have to act like them, regardless of what you eat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325269 187629378,187648555,2018-09-30 16:34:38,">>187648170 >The fact is faggot, is that humans are omnivores, which means that we eat plants and vegetables ?",,Anonymous,2ca83641078.png,26k4JmViZRAlPvR67xntnQ==,US,,1538325278 187629378,187648568,2018-09-30 16:34:46,">>187647862 It is real answer. The gifts of the sun and moon are the water cycle and its plants. Eating insects would destroy the intended natural symbiosis of these things. And would end up requiring pesticides, bagged dirt, and chemical fertilizers to keep my plants producing efficiently",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325286 187629378,187648573,2018-09-30 16:34:49,">>187648157 Local livestockers do not use industry products and keep them fed with wheat and natural grass found on fields You are a fag to begin with if you dont buy meat from your local butcher that gets his meat from the livestock breeders who do not artificially enhance their cows",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1538325289 187629378,187648669,2018-09-30 16:35:36,">>187648157 because sheep and cattle dont eat meat either",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538325336 187629378,187648708,2018-09-30 16:35:57,">>187648301 That little girl in the last vid looks malnourished as fuck God that is depressing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325357 187629378,187648849,2018-09-30 16:37:02,">>187648301 In the fifth one, her children have appeared in her videos frighteningly emaciated, I assume this is from their unnaturual plant diet. She took down the scariest of her videos, but internet deep researchers reposted the malnourished children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325422 187629378,187648850,2018-09-30 16:37:05,">>187648568 >Eating insects would destroy the intended natural symbiosis of these things. Dude by the same logic eating plants is bad for the environment too. But it's not because a thing called FARMING exists lmao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325425 187629378,187648892,2018-09-30 16:37:24,">>187647389 well you kinda look like an asshole and make people opposed to veganism sound dumb by presenting yourself with no sound argument. you can cherry pick ugly vegan people all day long but that doesn't mean anything to anyone, try posting some information about health and fitness regarding meat against a plant based diet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325444 187629378,187648897,2018-09-30 16:37:26,">>187629378 Stop it. You put people off /Nasim. I wish I could swap you for her.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1538325446 187629378,187649065,2018-09-30 16:38:53,">>187647607 >replier doesn't read thread or watch videos proving OP is not a vegan >still feels like posting about how bad OP is for being a vegan, despite him not being a vegan at all",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325533 187629378,187649310,2018-09-30 16:40:52,"Ex vegan here. 3 or 4 years in my late teens and early twenties and just finished 4 years in my 30s. Veganism is bullshit. Commercial plant based agricultural is damaging to the environment and kills millions of animals by proxy. After switching back to a whole food omnivore diet I've lost 15lbs and energy levels through the roof. It intentionally, humanly, and responsibly sourced animal products. Dairy is garbage though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325652 187629378,187649313,2018-09-30 16:40:54,">>187648892 There's plenty of people who can do that bro like Frank Tufano. I can't do what he does, but I don't think he can do what I do either lol. Check out tufano, Shawn Baker and Sv3rige if you want reasoned arguments. I'm here to lol at sickly vegans and this is the place for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4 [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDS_th9WPLE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325654 187629378,187649461,2018-09-30 16:42:15,">>187647987 I am not wealthy. And I have trees growing which I have woven together as a natural fence. Woven dew berry vines all along the perimeter add a very effective deterrent for most things",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325735 187629378,187649558,2018-09-30 16:43:01,">>187648849 >>187648708 maybe i am not looking close enough she doesn't really look all that malnurished to me. although i am not a vegan it seems evident that a vegan diet can support and keep a person healthy all the same as a meat-based diet, but that are some vitamins and minerals that are harder to get.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325781 187629378,187649572,2018-09-30 16:43:09,">>187649310 This is what vegans don't want to address. The vegan who got closest to this truth was Joey Cuckstrong. He said he was not in this veganism for the health, but he was an ethical vegan (he will stay in thick or thin, healthy or ill, for the animals)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325789 187629378,187649673,2018-09-30 16:44:03,">>187648462 >Who is saturn? You know very well what I am referring to, kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325843 187629378,187649800,2018-09-30 16:45:11,">>187649461 This sounds a pleasant and buccolic life. I salute you. I have no land in this world to call my own.",,Anonymous,1532200192477.jpg,xx+x7yi6yzYJ41anZ4N/jA==,US,,1538325911 187629378,187649891,2018-09-30 16:45:55,">>187649558 Did you find nobody at all in any of these videos who looks unhealthy or emaciated?>>187648849",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538325955 187629378,187650029,2018-09-30 16:46:59,">>187649310 >Dairy is garbage though. For some reason milk tastes gross to me now but fermented milk, er, kefir, that is some mystical shit. It's origin is unknown and it has more probiotics than any other probiotic food I know of by far. And it's passed down and on through itself, from person to person, reproducing by fermentation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326019 187629378,187650061,2018-09-30 16:47:16,">>187649673 Who is the jew rebbi? >every vegan spokesman, researcher and all the funding comes from the shekelberg clan.",,Anonymous,Dr Michael Skelton.jpg,etx0SU7QpbxDKhHM2YOujw==,US,,1538326036 187629378,187650108,2018-09-30 16:47:38,"Meat is the food of our Aryan, Native-European, Proto-European, Ice age European, originating from Atlantis thus Atlantean forebears of the White Nordid race. Through consuming it our ancestors developed on average 2 m of height and athletic body constitution in their 100 % pure state. We became the race of hunters that will set the flow of evolution on it's next course. Nature wills it. Meat is the BEST thing in the world and personally I can't digest any meal if meat is not one of the contents of it. In this world there are hunters and prey. The hunters kill and consume the prey while the former chews on leaves. pic- us, the ultimate meat-eater race",,Anonymous,pureprotoeuropeanwhitenordid.jpg,ADcdNyzmSPqaPY4RDy72qg==,PL,,1538326058 187629378,187650247,2018-09-30 16:48:38,">>187648850 Yes. I grow 90% of my own food, I don't live on money. If I started collecting and eating my insects I would create more work for myself with my plants. Its just a stupid suggestion. I would rather live in this lush oxygen rich environment than a Somalian tier grass field.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326118 187629378,187650313,2018-09-30 16:49:09,>>187650108,,Anonymous,1530384802385.jpg,G9Q5uOJkKGZmOs+2srNM4Q==,US,,1538326149 187629378,187650314,2018-09-30 16:49:09,">>187649313 it just seems like low hanging fruit and it kinda makes you look irrationally hateful when people ask you questions about what you post and you reply with the same four videos",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326149 187629378,187650370,2018-09-30 16:49:40,">>187649891 no just the fifth video of that one post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326180 187629378,187650431,2018-09-30 16:50:05,">>187650314 I don't mind any questions. You don't post a question here, just ad hom.",,Anonymous,4K Pepe.jpg,MMPnBw2dtARaXi4jZmUjFw==,US,,1538326205 187629378,187650466,2018-09-30 16:50:32,">>187650061 >the Jew is into controlled opposition especially on issues crucial to shaking their shackles Who fucking knew?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326232 187629378,187650487,2018-09-30 16:50:43,">>187650247 keeping a few chickens and using their shit for manure can't be that complicated though eat the eggs",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538326243 187629378,187650489,2018-09-30 16:50:46,">>187650061 someone finally makes a good argument against veganism. all you had to say was Jews like it . t.no longer vegan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326246 187629378,187650586,2018-09-30 16:51:34,pic related- the ultimate plant eating farming life style introducing Armenid race the homosexual eunuchs who sent their slutty daughters as the first use of biological weapon and inmixed with our ubermensch forebears.,,Anonymous,armenidpure.jpg,77gpcFgwvIJ8OvrQRnqpnw==,PL,,1538326294 187629378,187650683,2018-09-30 16:52:33,">>187650370 Can you watch these three videos once each, get a baseline? I don't know what you consider emaciated, I think many of these vegans are emaciated. This is an opinion, I admit.>>187648849",,Anonymous,893475333333.jpg,tylpyHLKXe7L3+SbyMD7UA==,US,,1538326353 187629378,187650705,2018-09-30 16:52:45,">>187650247 Considering insects have better protein than plants how would that not be a net benefit to sacrifice some plants for insects",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326365 187629378,187650901,2018-09-30 16:54:40,">>187650489 And who is the chief rebbi and vegan spokesman who got all the way to the Joe Rogan podcast to defend veganism?? >Dr. Joel Kahn. of course https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtqCBimr6U",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326480 187629378,187650941,2018-09-30 16:55:01,">>187636533 who is this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326501 187629378,187651292,2018-09-30 16:57:59,">>187650941 Dr. Dray (Youtube vegan) Emily the Bite Size Vegan (Vegan activist, large amount of $$$ coming to her patroen) Emily is the video with Vegan Gains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ",,Anonymous,000k6vityth.jpg,HFdx9N1ql9uXFEkdDkHZZg==,US,,1538326679 187629378,187651359,2018-09-30 16:58:37,">>187650705 Because the insects live in symbiosis with the environment I've cultivated. If I started eating them the environment would suffer and the insect population would also decline, leading to starvation. No, bad idea.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326717 187629378,187651511,2018-09-30 17:00:15,"Thriving in an environment similar to modern Finland, Cro-Magnon (Aryan;WhiteNordid) culture was, out of pure necessity, ""the"" hunter culture par excellance (spearheads, arrowheads, richly decorated spear throwers, harpoons, assegais, cave paintings filled with hunting scenes, whistles, horse’s heads figures). For this reason, we should imagine them living a life of violent and constant physical activity outdoors. This developed them as an athletic, graceful, gymnastic human type, and when the climatic conditions got milder, this probably became more apparent. It is in the Cro-Magnon(Aryan;WhiteNordid) communities of Spain, France and the Balkans(in the stone age times), where we have to look for the origin of Greek(hellenic aryan) athletic traditions like races, javelin throwing, hunting, fighting and archery. This text is from the Europa Soberana blog with added remarks.",,Anonymous,after-the-ice-migrations-during.jpg,+Vp0yzmIKYYDKV42G2X2Ng==,PL,,1538326815 187629378,187651521,2018-09-30 17:00:21,">>187651359 I love Preying mantis and ladybugs, (I could never harm one) or butterflies. let's agree on that and i'm out lads peace.",,Anonymous,Dinner time.jpg,gksJOu3PPocCHovIZjrDTg==,US,,1538326821 187629378,187651534,2018-09-30 17:00:30,">>187650431 ok, firstly i am not trying to be mean or insulting i know it comes off that way after having read back many of my earlier posts ,this was not my intention, i just noticed a lot of your posts and think it is a very strange pattern and would like to know more about your interest/motivation in posting in such a specific pattern, second you say veganism/ vegetarianism is very unhealthy but statistically people who eat more plant-based diets have higher-life expectancy and lower rates of disease, do you believe these statistics to be false, or at least spun in a dishonest manner. i hope it doesn't bring in ire but i myself am a vegetarian but am deeply concerned it may have negative health impacts, if you know anything about this or know where i could find information about potential health problems regarding a vegetarian diet i would very much like to know.",,Anonymous,1535769165578.gif,tWCPEIWyKCO9hX54PR6naw==,US,,1538326830 187629378,187651590,2018-09-30 17:00:57,">>187650901 yep on my way to get a damn steak",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326857 187629378,187651694,2018-09-30 17:01:54,">>187650586 what the hell is that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538326914 187629378,187651790,2018-09-30 17:02:46,>>187651292,,Anonymous,faggotdray.jpg,kXWAViUFG1+m9Jbde/FgqA==,US,,1538326966 187629378,187651938,2018-09-30 17:04:07,">>187651534 >statistically people who eat more plant-based diets have higher-life expectancy and lower rates of disease, do you believe these statistics to be false? Yes, they compared health-conscious vegans, and compared them to typical SADiet consuming hot dogs, junk food, processed unhealthy meat and etc, naturally the vegans are more healthy. (I grew up eating that and survived lol) but now I switched to a healthy carnivore/omnivore diet. Shawn Baker explains this, and the guy in the rogan podcast explains this much better than I can-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULtqCBimr6U the studies are old and busted, debunked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327047 187629378,187652082,2018-09-30 17:05:27,">>187651534 I never said vegetarian is unhealthy. If you consume raw milk, cheeses, eggs your diet may be healthier than mine. (I eat that plus red meat) You consume animal fats, which I believe is important. No way you can be as sickly or unhealthy as a vegan.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327127 187629378,187652243,2018-09-30 17:06:59,">>187636110 Plants respond to their environment and outside stimulation. They unarguably have a sense of feel. It's up for debate if they register pain or not but its undeniable they can at least feel. Also, op is a faggot. This isn't a safe space board. Don't come here if you don't want your shitty arguements shredded without mercy, just like I do to my home raised pigs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327219 187629378,187652269,2018-09-30 17:07:16,">>187651534 >statistically people who eat more plant-based diets have higher-life expectancy and lower rates of disease, do you believe these statistics to be false, or at least spun in a dishonest manner Obviously I'm not that guy but It would not be surprising at all that comparing any group of people with a restrictive diet (because they care about their health) to people who eat literally anything, the people with the diet will be seen to generally be in better health Correlation doesn't equal causation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327236 187629378,187652299,2018-09-30 17:07:38,">>187651534 Please follow Dr Shawn Baker, and Frank Tufano on youtube and insta. You don't have to eat just exactly what they do, but they explain the arguments I believe in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327258 187629378,187652374,2018-09-30 17:08:18,">>187634727 You are right. my bad. I get so easily triggered when it comes to vegans",,Anonymous,IMG_0642.jpg,OCgB6Y8A2PDWoPJHNGne6g==,DK,,1538327298 187629378,187652530,2018-09-30 17:09:47,"I'd go vegan if I could, but I'd feel like shit and waste away pretty quickly if I didn't get my daily 3 lbs of bloody flesh. Kudos to those who can thrive on such meager all-plant diets.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327387 187629378,187653124,2018-09-30 17:15:05,">>187651938 >>187652082 >>187652269 >>187652299 thank you all for your input i will look into to all of these sources and information.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327705 187629378,187653384,2018-09-30 17:17:39,"One more thing if you are vegetarian i'm on your side. I eat milk, eggs too. Vegans are against all of us, want to ban what I eat and what you eat. I just eat meat too. plus plants fruits etc and milk eggs and cheese.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538327859 187629378,187653832,2018-09-30 17:22:08,">>187629378 not a vegan but i love one",,Anonymous,nasimsabzvegangoddess.jpg,5Hf1ZhrF8Ju2G6B1DjPWeA==,US,,1538328128 187629378,187654115,2018-09-30 17:24:40,">>187631963 you are really sad when you don't even have someone irl to try to troll with that weak ass ""ohh look at me vegans i ate a meat"". zero people are butthurt that you ate a hamburger you stupid fuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538328280 187629378,187654128,2018-09-30 17:24:49,">>187653384 i know it sounds gay but i really do care for the whole animal well-being and environmentalist crap. but i don't see why it is hurtful to animals or necessarily hurtful for the environment to takes the cows excess milk or the eggs chickens lay anyways",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538328289 187629378,187654276,2018-09-30 17:26:23,"HEY, I'M VEGAN! CAN YOU GIVE ME THIS MEDAL?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1538328383 187629378,187654739,2018-09-30 17:30:32,"A whole food plant based diet is the only way of eating scientifically proven to reverse cardiovascular disease. Healthiest, least expensive and most ethical form of eating known to man.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538328632 187629378,187654795,2018-09-30 17:31:05,">>187654739 Ye but meat's delicious so IDC",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1538328665 187629378,187655174,2018-09-30 17:34:25,">>187631535 All the people you're posting take steroids btw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538328865 187629378,187656777,2018-09-30 17:48:53,">>187654739 >plant based diet is not veganism",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1538329733 187629378,187658801,2018-09-30 18:06:14,">>187650487 >keeping a few chickens and using their shit for manure can't be that complicated though This is true, but to keep chickens you must occasionally kill them for a variety of reasons even if you only want the eggs, so this rustles the jimmies of limp wristed Vegan types. t. Have chickens",,Anonymous,1538271618106.png,qTrOggvq/MUXvLsBmSsnLA==,US,,1538330774 187629378,187661131,2018-09-30 18:27:34,">>187654115 Make that one person vegan lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538332054 187629378,187661202,2018-09-30 18:28:15,"So vegan makes you a meathead faggot? Interesting. I wonder what faggot vegetarians taste like?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538332095 187629378,187661355,2018-09-30 18:29:43,">>187654739 Yeah vegans have all the studies and all the proof, ""proof"" but why IRL vegans look like this lol??? >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw [Embed] >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU [Embed] >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4 [Embed] >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDS_th9WPLE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538332183 188358269,188358269,2018-10-06 14:31:42,"""MUH BACON"" is not an argument edition Thread for all vegans and people interested in the vegan lifestyle. Veganism is the healthiest diet imaginable for humans. There is no other morally acceptable and environmental friendly diet. Vegans on average have a higher IQ, lower bodyfat percentage, longer lives, stronger hearts, better teeth and a better life in general than carnivores. There is absolutely nothing you cannot get on a vegan diet. Only civil discussion will be allowed. Carnists and corpse eaters remain silent, in your cucksheds-- we are not interested in your opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,Arnolds Way for Superior Vegan Health.jpg,hzaA6PVFUEn9IVN77H+tLw==,,,1538836302 188358269,188358561,2018-10-06 14:33:42,">>188358269 Why do you car what other eat? I eat everything and couldn’t care less of other people don’t eat meat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538836422 188358269,188358584,2018-10-06 14:33:59,">>188358561 *care",,Anonymous,,,US,,1538836439 188358269,188359514,2018-10-06 14:41:03,">>188358561 I just want everyone to be as healthy as vegans bro! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs",,Anonymous,-090909.jpg,pqxn/HbIWEiqyUaMPT8DxQ==,,,1538836863 190162353,190162353,2018-10-20 15:21:13,"You can't be healthy if you eat meat edition Thread for all vegans, NPCs, plant based, and people interested in the plant based lifestyle. Veganism is the healthiest diet imaginable for humans. Vegans are smarter, stronger, more intelligent, healthier, live longer and are happier than meat eaters. There is absolutely no reason to eat rotten animal corpses or drink milk. End of discussion. Examples-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ There is absolutely nothing you cannot get on a vegan diet. Vegan diet is optimal for healthy teeth and gums-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msk2kR4_3ak Only civil discussion allowed. Carnivore propaganda will be deleted with the account banned..",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,How Not to Die.jpg,gx7Uf7ddyckGXGz1ouqerA==,,,1540048873 190162353,190163066,2018-10-20 15:27:57,">>190162353 Am Vegan, can confirm not dying, feel healthy. HOWEVER doing it properly (no oil, no processed junk) is hard work and really not recommended for normies. You have to understand how much food your eating, what you are eating and why you are eating it. Get the balance right and you should feel really healthy. Swapping from junk omnivore to junk vegan isnt going to do shit but make you mal-norished form under consuming calories. B12 deficiency is also nonsense before anyone starts,.",,Anonymous,pl42kFusfcePB-yUyRk_YrNLIQ2Cb9cHbegFsvu6aes.jpg,8kMe0GeKQSypWFH973r+cg==,GB,,1540049277 190162353,190163354,2018-10-20 15:30:47,">>190163066 >no oil what do you mean by this? what's wrong with olive oil?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540049447 190162353,190163574,2018-10-20 15:32:50,">>190162353 Lol, I'm not taking diet advice from a fat chinless Jew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540049570 190162353,190164031,2018-10-20 15:37:36,">>190163574 Would you listen to a well-chiseled goyishe life long vegan activist?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU",,Anonymous,Robust 72 Year old Vegan Arnold Kauffman.jpg,MsBZIVFOzIf4UHTWJONFbQ==,,,1540049856 190162353,190164299,2018-10-20 15:40:15,">>190163354 Any cooking oil is bad for vegans (and omnivores) fucks up your internal Omega 3:6 balance which is correlated with Cardio Vascular Disorders. The Mediterranean diet myth about Olive Oil being good for you is mostly bullshit science that didnt control for the increase in raw fruit and veg. Its likely the diet is healthier in spite of the oil not because of it.",,Anonymous,w61_-Ei_hGCG6V74g7clMtiZVd7OGFOp2PUmnh-Vcbk.jpg,jau2yLNlhtWdEGVGMcMJOA==,GB,,1540050015 190162353,190164386,2018-10-20 15:41:05,">>190163354 To be honest olive oil we export is trash, it used to be lantern fuel grade before Americans picked up on the Mediterranean diet meme. Look it up.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1540050065 190162353,190164470,2018-10-20 15:41:56,">>190162353 I'm a vegetarian. I met my vegetarian wife in 95. I was 20. I was a meat eater but due to an incredibly poor economy ate only cheap Iceland sausages and burgers and the odd savloy at the chip shop. When I went veggie my weight plummeted and I had a late growth spurt and then another. You're not supposed to grow after 18. I went from 182 to 185 then 187 where I still am at 43. Moral of the story. Vegans and veggies are cunts of people so I buy meat anyway not for my consumption. I buy pork to put in food bins. I'm glad sand niggers and kikes get fuck all but make sure the homeless get decent food. Because if it was left to do gooder lefties or dotty old pensioners it would be PG tips, rice pudding and tinned carrots. Cunts",,BowingDownIsForBenders,,,GB,,1540050116 190162353,190164515,2018-10-20 15:42:23,">>190162353 >hurry eat some grass rosebuds and other good things of the Earth! >quickly quickly start now ahead of raising anchor from port to go and invade you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050143 190162353,190164620,2018-10-20 15:43:32,">>190164299 Then how to cook meat, how to cook eggs, how to cook (fry how to fry) sweet potatoes???",,Anonymous,,,,,1540050212 190162353,190164685,2018-10-20 15:44:07,">>190164031 Lol, that guy is fat too. And no, I wouldn't. Because I already know veganism is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050247 190162353,190164705,2018-10-20 15:44:17,">>190162353 >Eat grass and bugs, goy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050257 190162353,190164730,2018-10-20 15:44:28,I eat meat. I bet I am also stronger than you.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050268 190162353,190164797,2018-10-20 15:45:09,"If it works for you, great. But I know for a fact that I feel like shit when I don't get enough meat in my diet.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050309 190162353,190164842,2018-10-20 15:45:34,">>190164730 Vegans are fucking ripped bro, you have never encountered this level of 'lean'",,Anonymous,Average Robust Vegan.jpg,jcEkXmC1Y3mIv3olBJlZiw==,,,1540050334 190162353,190164873,2018-10-20 15:45:51,">>190164470 You alright there lad, that made zero fucking sense.",,Anonymous,TGpzS0w0Fpl5wec1D90IQ8hxvgtIOJG0nqItViH3OIk.jpg,NKNQjFHa2S2yJSkZyvLkew==,GB,,1540050351 190162353,190164903,2018-10-20 15:46:12,">>190164620 Use water ya melon, you dont need to cook with oil.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1540050372 190162353,190164995,2018-10-20 15:46:49,">>190164873 Alcoholic gravy bruv",,BowingDownIsForBenders,,,GB,,1540050409 190162353,190164999,2018-10-20 15:46:51,">>190163354 I imagine he means the sunflower, rapeseed oil, which (according to some podcast) is like 35% of the American calorie intake. The problem with that is that some research show (according to wild podcast) they make you fatter on the same calorie intake. Body doesn't encounter it much in nature normally.",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1540050411 190162353,190165025,2018-10-20 15:47:03,">>190164842 I love people like you. These threads really do brighten my day. /pol/ is so fucking blackpilled sometimes, and there are not enough people who are willing to just joke around and have a little fun. Thanks anon :)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050423 190162353,190165052,2018-10-20 15:47:17,">>190164730 You know Arnold Schwarznegger, Mike Tyson, The Diaz Brothers, David Goggins... All Vegan.",,Anonymous,ehb67oxFp6dUWRm0MriUDL5Le21XF7V-EQlUTACUXbU.jpg,J5Fo/FvuFVc32bpkH/S8rQ==,GB,,1540050437 190162353,190165114,2018-10-20 15:47:54,">>190162353 I've been vegan for more than 2 years now, health wise I noticed no change when I went from eating everything to being strict vegan over night. I was hungry more often and required snacking throughout the day the first 6 months but after it balanced out.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1540050474 190162353,190165127,2018-10-20 15:47:59,">>190162353 Veganism is faggotry",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050479 190162353,190165197,2018-10-20 15:48:39,">no qt3.14 azn gf to cook me delicious and nutritious vegan food >thinks I have the mental energy or time to do this >thinks I can get proper nutrition easily this way kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050519 190162353,190165274,2018-10-20 15:49:23,">>190164842 that is a spoopy skeleton",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050563 190162353,190165301,2018-10-20 15:49:38,">>190163066 Look at this fag. >no oil Faggot doesn't even understand the nature of fat-soluble vitamins. Dude is literally starving himself of nutrients. LOL. Die plantfag.",,Anonymous,Starbucks Water.png,zvRhk9ec7Ez4jBPkE0URhQ==,US,,1540050578 190162353,190165362,2018-10-20 15:50:15,">>190165025 thanx bro. I love /pol/ too.",,Anonymous,Natural Outdoor Kids.jpg,xC4Erefh1fvQd7qRTbaqDg==,,,1540050615 190162353,190165508,2018-10-20 15:51:41,">>190165301 You dont need oil to get fat in your diet you standard american consumer.",,Anonymous,WarCraft-II-Tides-of-Darkness.jpg,3m0qEDRBmdIpLGhNat+Atw==,GB,,1540050701 190162353,190165603,2018-10-20 15:52:37,">>190162353 Reminder that more than half of all Vegans are retarded due to a lack of nutrients that are essential for brain function.",,Anonymous,epa_dha_levels.png,UE/qOzJhs6wDt+WKQ0Q+Xg==,US,,1540050757 190162353,190165685,2018-10-20 15:53:15,>>190165603,,Anonymous,zinc_inadequacy.png,kk7jKz/Bgzalwk0AaB76og==,US,,1540050795 190162353,190165739,2018-10-20 15:53:49,">>190165052 >Vegan lies example 1,888 How did arnold build his body? Vegan? Diaz brothers vegan is a debunked joke. the boxer mike tyson building that body and those reflexes vegan is also a staggering joke. Keep up the vegan lies, you need to gather more NPC libtards to the starvation cult.",,Anonymous,arnold-diet-for-muscle-growth.jpg,oljLxx/W9IdcJpc84thE8A==,,,1540050829 190162353,190165759,2018-10-20 15:54:01,">>190165508 Really? So, you're just eating a shitton of avocados and nuts? Olive oil is less inflammatory than nut oils.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1540050841 190162353,190165790,2018-10-20 15:54:19,">>190162353 Meat proteins is what made the progression of the human brains evolution possible",,Anonymous,2A8BA7BB-10B5-406C-8E06-A4EE41332624.jpg,W18Q1VGzWOuYNOu+/kMwag==,US,,1540050859 190162353,190165799,2018-10-20 15:54:30,">>190165052 Whoa. Goggins is vegan? Are you sure? Also, Veganism is for people who have time to do frivolous shit. Ain't nobody working got time for that shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1540050870 201364239,201364239,2019-01-28 19:08:43,"True red pills are uncomfortable truths. This is perfectly demonstrated with veganism where the blue pill meat eating cucks are desperate to hold onto the poison being shoved down their gullets by (((them))). Cancer, Heart disease, Stroke, Diabetes, etc... the biggest killers in the west all caused or exacerbated by meat consumption. Who needs fluoride in the water or chemtrails in the sky when there's meat on your plate?",VEGAN GENERAL,Anonymous,Five-Great-Reasons.jpg,ecSHIHRCGePDIAQWJ1nrpw==,GB,United Kingdom,1548702523 201364239,201364665,2019-01-28 19:14:09,">>201364239 Before someone says it",,Anonymous,vegan.png,mVGrbXJT6SASLSWjKtCrow==,GB,United Kingdom,1548702849 201364239,201365932,2019-01-28 19:30:51,">>201364665 >>201364239 (OP) >where do they get their protein >we do drugs lol imagine my surprise when vegans are actually degenerate cucks. it goes in all fields.",,Anonymous,,,GR,Greece,1548703851 201364239,201366918,2019-01-28 19:41:52,">>201365932 > PED can somehow synthesise protein out of thin air",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1548704512