thread_id,id,timestamp,body,subject,author,image_file,image_md5,country_code,country_name,unix_timestamp
166560616,166560616,2018-04-03 08:31:54,">Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMNXWid9fnI
>what is this thread for?
This thread is for discussing Parties, politicians and movements looking to reverse the demographic shift, whether covertly through policy or overtly through spreading awareness; and discussing campaigns, events & examples we can use to spread awareness & support, to create a united right.
>Don't bother, Britain is fucked anyway
London is not Britain. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are de facto ethnostates already, even with the rise of (((celtic nationalism))); And so are most areas outside of the three biggest cities and certain towns in the south.
Support for the left is currently heightened thanks to Chairm Corbyn's propaganda department and the lack of a proper right wing to stand up to him, but all the same, it's an economic reaction to 8 years of Neocon, and not an endorsement of his SJWism; and it's no greater then the support for Obama in 2008.
We know the support is there, we saw it in Brexit and the lack of support in the public for a second refferendum. If we can make the change, then they will not be reversed.
>so what do we do?
There are a number of organisations big enough to reach a wide audience and small enough for our influence to have an impact. We should focus on winning them over, and using their resources to build a movement. Our strength, though, is obviously online. I propose that we start coming up with ops for some moralization & raising awarenes of important issues, to sow some seeds in the public mind that the right is gaining traction and talking about the real problems.",/BVG/ British Vanguardism General,Anonymous,UnionJack.gif,yQZ9FxfEthv+6Gd7gWtyfQ==,GB,,1522744314
166560616,166560656,2018-04-03 08:32:35,">Brainstorming
.A good place to start would be the Dankula case. A small campaign, an easy victory, but moralisation we desperately need. And if people know that freedom of speech is under attack, they’re naturally going to ask what it is you can't say, and why.
.The prioritising of regional immigration policy. This can at least slow things down to prevent further changes in regional england (i.e not the big cities) . A policy that allows areas of the UK to refuse new immigrants is close enough to mainstream political discourse that it could actually become popular.
Here it is mentioned in the news papers:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/05/theresa-may-faces-calls-to-implement-regional-immigration-policy
.The obvious connections with those in govt and the celeb world who’ve gone down because of Operation Yew Tree, collectively holds the key to mass awareness and uprising. As Americans have done with the Clinton Foundation horrors and pizzagate and the Hollywood pedo scandals, research and put the links together. Then start disseminating the info to the masses in digestible, credible chunks. Show them simply yet graphically how their govt and country have been slowly and strategically infiltrated beginning long ago. Emphasize how THIS shit really is the essence of modern invasion and warfare, since due to the existence of nuclear weapons, enemies are too fearful to start a direct hot war.",,Anonymous,a7200001h.jpg,vtIEbigkOwWNNco1acqUCA==,GB,,1522744355
166560616,166560735,2018-04-03 08:33:53,">>166560656
#I'mdankula",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522744433
166560616,166560737,2018-04-03 08:34:01,".Studying the successes and methods of the underground resistance movements in occupied countries during WWII. You basically are under a creeping, gradually spreading globalist occupation. Most western nations are, but some are under heavier attack. Ultimately, charismatic leaders will be necessary. We can see how the left’s trying to ditch failures like Hillary Clinton and recruit young future leaders like David Hogg and the bald lesbian chick. We should be doing the same—not questionable Richard Spencer types and e-celebs, but promising youth who can enter politics and fight.
.Spread awareness of the massive extent of the Pakistani paedophile gangs, it's a clear as day example how cultures are not equal, and how political correctness is dangerous. Another example is the acid attacks, the practice has been imported straight from Bengal. It's very hard to argue against this.
.Updates on Nationalist groups such as Veterans Against Terrorism, Football Lads Alliance, Democratic Football Lads Alliance, Generation Identity UK, Identity Albion (Master Brew). There are many marches being organised by these types of groups and it is important our lads know about them. They are getting bigger and bigger with you youth of the middle class getting more involved.
.Dankula was arreted under broad hate crime legislation, right? I don't know the specific detail, but i do know the act he was charged under applies to the whole UK.
So according to the UK government, it's a hatecrime to make a dog look like a nazi.
Why don't we turn nazi dogs into a meme about free speech & spread it around?",,Anonymous,08B70C02-BEB9-4D1F-98B9-00503C12AAE5.jpg,hAtpb6++tRBAD9B2rrSD2Q==,GB,,1522744441
166560616,166560800,2018-04-03 08:35:04,">>166560735
See the bottom point on this >>166560737
Might be a good place to start. We're in the brainstorming phase at the moment, so any better ideas let me know.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522744504
166560616,166560851,2018-04-03 08:36:02,,,Anonymous,29541220_1938599479803158_8441178031500583808_n.jpg,8j2gRAeUHamTZ0Oxifmj2Q==,GB,,1522744562
166560616,166560854,2018-04-03 08:36:12,,,Anonymous,29595246_1942547056075067_8984084807099812764_n.jpg,NiZo/73uTABeAxhBjHgrgQ==,GB,,1522744572
166560616,166560865,2018-04-03 08:36:28,,,Anonymous,englandexpects.png,6iwNCPwK3q3E//V31j+kOQ==,GB,,1522744588
166560616,166560871,2018-04-03 08:36:39,,,Anonymous,1521856471179.jpg,mM9nWvt9RjG6j0fJKwqyvg==,GB,,1522744599
166560616,166560883,2018-04-03 08:36:48,,,Anonymous,1511379771350m.jpg,+8OySvwgHa20tXcoMHvTtg==,GB,,1522744608
166560616,166560896,2018-04-03 08:36:58,,,Anonymous,1511379795382m.jpg,d8cmiTgGvfa8vpw3g9CbHA==,GB,,1522744618
166560616,166560907,2018-04-03 08:37:07,,,Anonymous,1511379847862m.jpg,adAG5307P7lQ+YWC1m1YDA==,GB,,1522744627
166560616,166560919,2018-04-03 08:37:17,,,Anonymous,1511379904320m.jpg,KWCHVgSMChARFpX0oiFeLw==,GB,,1522744637
166560616,166560934,2018-04-03 08:37:36,,,Anonymous,1521936284649.jpg,mdQJ0KWmC3xjNkU4Xrg8FQ==,GB,,1522744656
166560616,166560956,2018-04-03 08:37:55,,,Anonymous,1521937798664.jpg,OxiUWZQwI8ID024exDRb9w==,GB,,1522744675
166560616,166561274,2018-04-03 08:43:13,bump,,Anonymous,1522486654767.png,/48ZjNC0Jt97KVcP6qWiSg==,GB,,1522744993
166560616,166561370,2018-04-03 08:44:48,L,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745088
166560616,166561379,2018-04-03 08:44:57,A,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745097
166560616,166561389,2018-04-03 08:45:07,R,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745107
166560616,166561395,2018-04-03 08:45:14,">>166560616
Is this a new GURPs?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745114
166560616,166561401,2018-04-03 08:45:17,P,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745117
166560616,166561470,2018-04-03 08:46:17,">>166561370
N",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1522745177
166560616,166561485,2018-04-03 08:46:35,">>166561379
O",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1522745195
166560616,166561508,2018-04-03 08:46:54,">>166561389
N",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1522745214
166560616,166561523,2018-04-03 08:47:11,">>166561401
C",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1522745231
166560616,166561524,2018-04-03 08:47:15,F,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745235
166560616,166561545,2018-04-03 08:47:29,">>166561370
>>166561379
>>166561389
>>166561401
E",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1522745249
166560616,166561590,2018-04-03 08:48:03,">>166561524
>>166561545
btfo lol",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745283
166560616,166561609,2018-04-03 08:48:21,">>166561545
You know he's typing a letter at a time to fill the thread, right?
Don't reply back to this guy, it gives him an excuse to keep going.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745301
166560616,166561702,2018-04-03 08:49:38,">>166561609
I like how hard they're trying shilling against these threads",,Anonymous,1456984025120.jpg,iGegFgaePLTCkXypckyC+Q==,GB,,1522745378
166560616,166561908,2018-04-03 08:52:46,">>166561609
Why are Brit threads such a shitshow?",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1522745566
166560616,166562045,2018-04-03 08:54:58,">>166561702
>>166561908
I put the link on Brit/pol/ because i know there's people there looking to have an actual conversation. Only problem is, it attracts brit/pol/.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745698
166560616,166562136,2018-04-03 08:56:23,">yet another fucking Brit general
You faggots are the reason we have a bad name. These threads are always the same shit. Shitposts, LARPing, then namefagging, then blogfagging, then it's just a circlejerk of faggotry. Keep it within the already established fucking """"""general""""""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745783
166560616,166562158,2018-04-03 08:56:44,LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS LARPTARDS,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745804
166560616,166562176,2018-04-03 08:57:09,">>166560616
oh look it's the brit larping general again
>>166562055
>>166562055
>>166562055",,The One True GodKing [3x World Champion of Wordsports],,,GB,,1522745829
166560616,166562230,2018-04-03 08:58:06,"Also
>Northern Ireland
>ethnostate
Except there's like 1 or 2 seats total dividing people who want to be British and people who want to literally leave the fucking UK. Get a fucking grip OP.
>Scotland
>Ethnostate
Except they nearly voted to leave a few years ago and all, do you really think we're keeping them in the long term. It's us and Wales till the end of it, face reality and start prepping.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745886
166560616,166562271,2018-04-03 08:58:35,">>166562136
This isn't Brit/pol/.
>>166562158
>>166562176
>>166561370
>>166561379
>>166561389
>>166561401
THIS is Brit/pol/.
The thread is about solutions.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745915
166560616,166562296,2018-04-03 08:59:08,">>166562271
Get the fuck out newfag.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745948
166560616,166562314,2018-04-03 08:59:25,LARPing fucking tards. Britain is dead.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522745965
166560616,166562378,2018-04-03 09:00:08,">>166562230
and dont forget the SNP are doing there best to make scotland london tier",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746008
166560616,166562409,2018-04-03 09:00:46,">>166562271
You have no solutions. You will wake up and go to work every day, you will slowly grow older, elections will come and go with every single one being THE big huge important be-all-end-all election except nothing really ever matters because nothing really ever fucking changes. 
also what >>166562378 said, between SNP and SF Scotland and NI aren't going to be worth keeping judging by your logic. Pack it in.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746046
166560616,166562434,2018-04-03 09:01:16,"Why is britain like this for fuck's sake?
I mean the values we have like being democratic and freedom of speech might be taken away
Also fuck theresa may",,Anonymous,,,,,1522746076
166560616,166562462,2018-04-03 09:01:44,">>166562434
>like being democratic and freedom of speech
ENGERLAND SAVED",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746104
166560616,166562479,2018-04-03 09:02:02,">>166560616
If you want people to jump on your cause you need to give them a reason why. WHAT are they fighting for? Literally say what values or reasons they are to stand up for and defend.
Also those borderline cringey images; the 80s retro aesthetic is played out now. And focusing on WW2 or earlier historical images just says ""we've not done anything good in the last 75 years so we'll focus on the past"".
Not trying to be pessimistic. Just offering constructive criticism.",,Anonymous,absolutelybusy.jpg,WYKQDAY9UsCBqXJoWgildg==,GB,,1522746122
166560616,166562528,2018-04-03 09:02:52,">>166562409
I have no solutions on my own. That's what the general is for. Discusssion.
And yeah, I meant to change the wording because it was poor. Point is, most places in this country are still Homogenous and white.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746172
166560616,166562598,2018-04-03 09:03:57,">>166562479
They're to bump the thread up so that people will see it on the front page.
And WHAT we're fighting for should be obvious. The question is HOW, and that's what we're here to discuss.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746237
166560616,166562613,2018-04-03 09:04:06,">>166562528
>I have no solutions on my own
Bye LARPy tardy",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746246
166560616,166562667,2018-04-03 09:04:54,England is dead,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746294
166560616,166562694,2018-04-03 09:05:18,">>166562528
Why do you think you'll find solutions here? /pol/ is a shitposting board and the doormat to 4chan, here you will find teens and tweens coming straight from reddit and facebook to be spoonfed the information that lets them continue to circlejerk opinions in their various groups. There is nothing here. There are no huge revelations here. Go get involved in local politics, start a public media campaign, do something other than anonymously LARPing on a Taiwanese turd-flipping board with other retards that have nothing to do except post WOJACKS and regurgitate year old memes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746318
166560616,166562724,2018-04-03 09:05:47,">>166562598
>And WHAT we're fighting for should be obvious
Should be, but isn't. People in a comfortable society take everything for granted. People don't realise the good things they have until they are taken away.",,Anonymous,harrypotter-54n.jpg,Jy/fueH88n2YcwPn1rPg8w==,GB,,1522746347
166560616,166562739,2018-04-03 09:06:07,">>166562694
this. only don't do any of that, because britain is dead.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746367
166560616,166562774,2018-04-03 09:06:45,">>166562667
I fucking agree",,Anonymous,,,,,1522746405
166560616,166563017,2018-04-03 09:09:37,">>166562694
What am i LARPing as, anon? A threadmaker? I'v already told you, thi is dicussion. I'm not claiming to be a saving light borne down from the fucking heavens.
And i'm holding it here for the same reasons people have always come here. I'm not going to get my thread deleted by some ideologically-driven mod.
>>166562724
People here know. Maybe not the experience, bt the theory. And that's what is important.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746577
166560616,166563055,2018-04-03 09:10:18,">>166562667
>>166562739
>>166562774
No wonder with that kind of fighting spirit.",,Anonymous,_92790124_mediaitem92790123.jpg,0rVgsAJ6vMGE+KnrIw0inQ==,GB,,1522746618
166560616,166563290,2018-04-03 09:11:28,">>166563055
Don't reply to brit/pol/ shills.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746688
166560616,166563318,2018-04-03 09:11:56,">>166563055
That's hot.
Would be a million times better if she wasn't a nigger",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746716
166560616,166563348,2018-04-03 09:12:17,">>166563017
Your OP implies there is so much to be done, speaking of organisations and movements. Your OP speaks of regions like Scotland/NI as ethnostates and this that or the other without having any kind of clue about the reality of the areas. You speak like everyone is simply unwilling to do anything, and now you say that you don't actually have a fucking clue what to do but instead want people to ""brainstorm?"" You're LARPing as someone who knows anything about politics.
You either get personally involved, or you fuck up and wait until you're personally allowed to cast a vote. Nothing else matters, and NOTHING you do anonymously in threads like this will matter either you gurgling faggot.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746737
166560616,166563505,2018-04-03 09:14:21,">>166563290
what is wrong with them? they're the most irritating posters on this board by a wide margin.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746861
166560616,166563627,2018-04-03 09:15:57,">>166563348
I already told you that was a bad choice of words that i was supposed to change for this general.
And yeah, there is a lot to be done. We're in the worst situation in Europe without so much as a credible movement looking to push back. And even the most aware of us are almost allergic to making the effort, preferring to be blackpilled litell faggots like yourself because it makes you feel morally suprerior.
So yes, there is a lot of work to be done, but omeone need to start and i'm not going anywhere.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746957
166560616,166563630,2018-04-03 09:15:58,">>166563348
>you're not allowed to discuss things because i'm mentally broken
fuck off you annoying twat, nobody wants to read your little speech.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522746958
166560616,166563765,2018-04-03 09:18:05,">>166563630
>taking /pol/ super seriously
Jog on to your trump generals and your brit/pol/ blogging and your kekistani niggery and all, if you unironically think this is the place for grassroots political upheaval you're the one that's mentally trampled.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747085
166560616,166563872,2018-04-03 09:19:41,">>166563765
It's what it always has been.
The place for open & free discussion on the internet.
That's all I need.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747181
166560616,166563893,2018-04-03 09:19:58,">>166563765
>everyone on /pol/ except me is a caricature
and you're the only sane man, of course. shut the fuck up and piss off. go outside rather than raving at your computer like a sperg.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747198
166560616,166563932,2018-04-03 09:20:40,">>166563765
this
>>166563630
>>166563872
fuck off you larpers >>>/cgl/",,The One True GodKing [3x World Champion of Wordsports],,,GB,,1522747240
166560616,166564022,2018-04-03 09:22:06,">>166563893
>sperging
You're the one yelling at me to get off your board. These threads are specifically why so many british posters are immediately bullied. Almost as bad as the fucking Americans at this point, holy shit. Realise where you are. This is nu/b/, anyone who comes to 4chan goes either to /v/ or to here. It takes retards or impressionable teens to take anything they read here seriously.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747326
166560616,166564042,2018-04-03 09:22:18,,,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1522747338
166560616,166564145,2018-04-03 09:24:11,">>166563893
It's not worth feeding these people (you)s.
They're good for keeping the thread bumped and people on their thread need to see there's actual discussion taking place, that's about it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747451
166560616,166564242,2018-04-03 09:25:24,">>166564145
>implying it's not been saged
lol",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747524
166560616,166564353,2018-04-03 09:26:50,">>166564242
Its still on page 3, so no, it hasn't. At least not consistently.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747610
166560616,166564403,2018-04-03 09:27:38,">>166564022
>yelling
i'm telling you to get over yourself and go away for a few hours. nobody wants to share your pearls of wisdom about the deep nature of an imageboard.
>realise where you are
on a website with text and pictures.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747658
166560616,166564571,2018-04-03 09:30:18,bump again,,Anonymous,1522500799780.jpg,z64dCu9ZCmZ/tSfwjX/1bg==,GB,,1522747818
166560616,166564693,2018-04-03 09:32:16,">>166560616
Did you see morgoths latest article where he suggests that we take some lessons from the viet cong? Good read. We need to be organising and disseminating redpills while we wait for this cold civil war to go hot. Also ignore the contrarian nihilist defeatist mongs. They are attracted to these threads like flies round shit. They gain a perverse pleasure in effecting others with the blackpill defeatism they wallow in and wish to drag others down to their level. I hate them. They are as bad, if not worse than actual shills.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522747936
166560616,166565027,2018-04-03 09:37:06,">>166560616
this >>166564693
we need to try and stay as motivated as possible otherwise we will never get anyware",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522748226
166560616,166565049,2018-04-03 09:37:29,">>166565027
*anywhere",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522748249
166560616,166565127,2018-04-03 09:38:50,">>166564693
no civil war will happen. British common people are to passive to start a national conflict.
if you want change it can only be done through the ballot and with a manifesto the common brit can get behind",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522748330
166560616,166565283,2018-04-03 09:40:59,">>166565127
I don't disagree with the idea of gaining traction with a political party, we need institutions in place. But a for starting a national conflict, we don't need too. See pic related >>166564042",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522748459
166560616,166565309,2018-04-03 09:41:22,">>166560616
Sage",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1522748482
166560616,166565424,2018-04-03 09:42:57,">>166564693
I haven't yet, do you have a link? I'm going to be updating the general for next thread, ptting relevant info in the OP, so more people will be able to see it in future.
>>166565049
Don't worry anon, i'm not going anywhere.
>>166565309
'K.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522748577
166560616,166565687,2018-04-03 09:46:54,">>166564693
Nevermind, i got it.
http://nwioqeqkdf.blogspot.com/2018/03/lessons-from-vietcong.html
Good read.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522748814
166560616,166565747,2018-04-03 09:48:00,">>166565283
so to reword the argument if a may.
we should take advantage of the economic and social situations that the conservatives and labour have brought upon the country because they have alienated the common British voter in favour for either a communist or police state?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522748880
166560616,166565938,2018-04-03 09:50:39,">reversing the demographic shift
How pathetic. Try actually having children then instead of larping on some anime website.
That's implying any woman would want to have sex with you anyway.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749039
166560616,166565943,2018-04-03 09:50:45,">>166560616
Reading through this thread was... wow.
Fucking faggots think anybody cares about their self defeating nihilism.
On that Dankula case, they can't arrest everyone if you all do it. Round up a load of dog owners, get em to all teach their dogs to sieg heil. Give the dogs Nazi armbands while you're at it. Then go parading around, goose stepping everywhere. Have everyone upload videos to youtube of their dog doing the nazi salute as well.
Oppose surveillance. Form groups to go around smashing CCTV's.
Remember that your problems all lead back to the Bank of England and the jews running it. They control your currency. They control your nation. Protest it. Demonstrate in front of it. I hate to take leaves from the Antifa book of operations, but be the biggest nuisance you can there. Block people from entering the building. Egg and tar the place.",,Anonymous,1522148885320-pol.png,mQbqY5v7mK6w+31742Ujhw==,CA,,1522749045
166560616,166566025,2018-04-03 09:52:07,">>166562271
Why do they accuse people of LARPing when this is clearly an Internet website",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749127
166560616,166566059,2018-04-03 09:52:35,">>166565424
What's your problem with Celtic nationalism fella?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1522749155
166560616,166566142,2018-04-03 09:53:30,">>166566025
just check this thread >>166561988
this is where they come from
brit/pol/ is a literal shithole, those nihilist cunts",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749210
166560616,166566162,2018-04-03 09:53:49,">>166562479
>focusing on WW2 or earlier historical images just says ""we've not done anything good in the last 75 years so we'll focus on the past"".
I miss the Argentinian war lad",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749229
166560616,166566217,2018-04-03 09:54:40,">>166565747
Exactly.
Start small, obviously, the Dankula case is a good example. And joining local or smaller national movements who already recognise this problem, and starting to talk about these ideas.
>>166565943
Obviously if someone's willing to train their dog to do that, it'd help. But i was thinking more in terms of pictures, because they can be shared and go viral.
""This image is illegal becase you might become a nazi if you see it."" That kind of thing.
>>166566059
Old-fashioned Irish nationalism, nothing. Modern Celtic nationalism is just communism with ""Bourgeoisie"" Replaced with ""English"".",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749280
166560616,166566374,2018-04-03 09:56:58,">t when want to help but not a UK citizen. 
I guess you can get a bump at least.",,Anonymous,sadhelper.png,nxuZLqwhG+NJmQr2B2kbJg==,JP,,1522749418
166560616,166566448,2018-04-03 09:57:52,">>166566374
If you're good enough for hitler, you're good enough for me, my honorary friend.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749472
166560616,166566533,2018-04-03 09:59:06,">>166560616
I think at this point OP, we need help from our allies in other countries. We have too many nihilists coming from brit/pol/ to destroy the thread",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749546
166560616,166566558,2018-04-03 09:59:22,">>166566217
well the dankula case isn't going to stay on the public mind much longer, so why don't we start the internet campaign now.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749562
166560616,166566684,2018-04-03 10:00:55,">>166566374
You're good enough for me Japan",,Anonymous,rip.png,NeAR+GGcwv764Sw/lPOOjg==,GB,,1522749655
166560616,166566707,2018-04-03 10:01:18,">>166566558
We should start when he gets sentenced. That should give us some time to get everything prepared.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749678
166560616,166566720,2018-04-03 10:01:25,WE'RE NOT SORRY,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749685
166560616,166566795,2018-04-03 10:02:33,"Also OP you're clearly the ape in charge of the New British Union's youtube and facebook, drop the fashwave meme aesthetic its just cringe as fuck mate",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749753
166560616,166566805,2018-04-03 10:02:41,"rule 1] stop posting Mosley. I'm not sure how old people in this thread are but considering our national identity is le battle of britain and we'll fight them on the beaches, using the leader of the British Union of Fascists is not a good look. Also his politics were shit anyway. I prefer Powell.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749761
166560616,166566846,2018-04-03 10:03:25,>when your shitty thread is so dead you have to spam it in every thread a britshit posts in,,Anonymous,,,,,1522749805
166560616,166566898,2018-04-03 10:04:12,">>166566795
Not, they;re jsut images i picked up from fashwave threads that I use as placemarks to bump the thread up.
And Fck the NBU. Gary Raikes is a disgrace to the name of Mosley.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749852
166560616,166566911,2018-04-03 10:04:21,">>166566898
fuck*",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749861
166560616,166566914,2018-04-03 10:04:21,">>166562176
wanting to stop people freely discussing topics you disapprove of makes you a fascist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749861
166560616,166566971,2018-04-03 10:05:27,">>166566846
>memeflag
Opinion discarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749927
166560616,166566992,2018-04-03 10:05:41,">>166566914
>fascist
eh, more like a communist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749941
166560616,166567007,2018-04-03 10:05:59,">>166566914
>>166566992
but whatever",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749959
166560616,166567052,2018-04-03 10:06:30,">>166566805
Adding to Powell, he was mocked for his rivers of blood speech by a lot of 'boomers'. I think with the current trend of statistics in London you could make a few memes of people calling this classical scholar and veteran a bigot by highlighting this with ; 'life comes at you fast'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749990
166560616,166567059,2018-04-03 10:06:36,">>166566971
I'd rather use a memeflag than be spamming every thread about your autistic LARPing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522749996
166560616,166567174,2018-04-03 10:08:09,">>166567059
Knock the act off, brit/pol/.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750089
166560616,166567257,2018-04-03 10:09:07,">166567059
you need to go back, brit/pol/
>>166561988",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750147
166560616,166567290,2018-04-03 10:09:34,">>166566914
>>166566992
>>166567007
And, what about it you fucking virgins?",,The One True GodKing [3x World Champion of Wordsports],,,,,1522750174
166560616,166567301,2018-04-03 10:09:40,"What do older immigrant bongs think about the Telford gangs? Immigrants from before the 2015 crisis. Usually immigrants are some of the most anti-immigrant people and have the most to loose when new arrivals show up. Can you find some /our guy/ to help shield you from accusations of racism? 
Honestly that's what you bongs need right now is a redpilled, thoroughly anglicized paki or better yet mixed guy, younger than Sadiq Kahn. If the government can just jail you for speaking and being white at the same time I'd think that would be step one.",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1522750180
166560616,166567336,2018-04-03 10:10:04,">>166567174
I'm not a britpol poster but youre actually autistic and nobody gives a fuck about your or your retarded thread, so stop posting it in every single thread",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750204
166560616,166567398,2018-04-03 10:10:47,">>166566898
this is another point I wanted to bring up. if this movement is going to get anywhere mainstream it cant be fascist. it can be anti-immigration, pro brexit and jingoist etc but it cant be openly fascist. the common voter doesn't like the fascists because we went to war with them. if we are going to use mosley we are going to have to treat him like albert speer. I suggest we make a new image for our selves which enables us to distance ourselves from the bad stuff yet still promote the good stuff.
tl;dr we need our own image which prevents us from being dismissed as just ""another group of fascists"" because fascism in Britain isn't popular.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750247
166560616,166567463,2018-04-03 10:11:36,">>166566805
this but without the powell",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750296
166560616,166567467,2018-04-03 10:11:39,">>166560616
can we have a party that's not pro-jewish plz",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750299
166560616,166567583,2018-04-03 10:13:21,">>166567301
WOW THANKS ENGLISH TEACHER
WE NEED BASED PAKIS
FUCK YEAAAAAHHH THEYRE JUST AS BRITISH AS WE ARE
OOOOOOOOOOOOH RAHEEM KASSAM",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750401
166560616,166567698,2018-04-03 10:14:48,">>166567301
muslim immigrents and 99% of their decendents are anti UK.
1/4 of black immigrents are okay becuase they wanted to escape shitholes. some older 2nd wave and third wave black immigrents are alright but majority of the new ones and youth are all anti uk
shiks and gurkas are alright but they tend to create ghettos but despite this the crime rate is still lower than other immigrent groups",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750488
166560616,166567749,2018-04-03 10:15:34,">>166567336
No.
Deal with it.
>>166567398
You misunderstand the point of a vanguard, anon.
>>166564042
>>166567467
That's the idea.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750534
166560616,166567802,2018-04-03 10:16:07,">>166562378
Labour are the same in Wales. The Tories have been on the rise in recent years but it's not significant enough to oust Carwyn and his Blairite clique. 
Labour are also planning on introducing the vote for 16 year olds, essentially as an age-based-gerrymandering tool. Wales is as damned as the rest of the country.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750567
166560616,166567860,2018-04-03 10:17:01,">>166567698
well then we're back to square one, how to have a public voice when you're being muzzled with hate crime laws. 
Is there some platform beyond sheer secrecy that you can use?",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1522750621
166560616,166568027,2018-04-03 10:19:25,">>166567860
Pushing back against the totality, which is what the Dankula campaign is about, and spreading awareness through related groups.
The police are overtretched as it is, that's why they made up the crime so they didn't have to go after actual criminals. If enough people start breaking the ""law"", it'll be a nightmare for them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750765
166560616,166568175,2018-04-03 10:21:24,">>166567860
These laws are really just aimed at working class white people. You can say whatever you like if you say it implicitly.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522750884
166560616,166568218,2018-04-03 10:21:58,">>166568027
""(inter)national teach your dog an illegal joke day?""
That could work I guess.",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1522750918
166560616,166568410,2018-04-03 10:24:35,">>166567860
the only platforms are ones e-celbs like tommy and sargon make and in the end they are lackluster. due to the problems of british stoistism unless we get bombed we are hard to rally.
social media is the best platform but we need a voice so people commit
>>166567749
you can be the vanguard for your country without resorting to fasicm, just ask any victorian imperialist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522751075
166560616,166568411,2018-04-03 10:24:36,">>166568218
See >>166566217
I was thinking something more viral. Something that could leave a lot more people implicit in a ""crime"". Teaching dogs tricks ould have an impact, but there will too few people doing it, the police could feasibly make arrests.
With a meme, though... could you imagine if we forced the police to say that pic related is illegal?",,Anonymous,342546116[1].jpg,0Qwqe38j/uXHEkw/jGHAuA==,GB,,1522751076
166560616,166568543,2018-04-03 10:26:07,">>166567802
>The Tories have been on the rise in recent years",,Anonymous,dim-323032.jpg,ACRiDRdjEQio1MgPKQPZyw==,GB,,1522751167
166560616,166568603,2018-04-03 10:26:59,"An actual right-wing party has potential, like Farage-era UKIP did
In the north (where I live), most people outside city centre and university campuses are anti-immigrant, anti-EU and most of the older generations are against the degeneracy that is rife within our society
The only reason Labour are popular in the North is because ""muh dole moni"", ""dem ebul thatcherists stealing muh milk"" and because it is mainly working class, but remember that in 2015 UKIP came second in most of the north
The problem with the current right-wing parties are they are either retarded zionist proxies full of uneducated chavs (EDL, britain first), they are to open about their goals (BNP) or they have no stable leadership (UKIP)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522751219
166560616,166568626,2018-04-03 10:27:12,">>166568411
I actually tried to get something like this going as a shitpost, suggesting that everyone change their social media profiles to a pug in solidarity with Dankula.",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1522751232
166560616,166568727,2018-04-03 10:28:21,">>166568411
you want them to make arrests. one arrest causes a stir, two an outrage and three a protest. this is were the #imdankula comes into play because if the government wants to arrest one person over a dog, they will have to arrest all of us to do it, which they cant.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522751301
166560616,166568878,2018-04-03 10:30:17,">>166568727
The British public aren't going to be outraged about anything that doesn't effect them materially.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522751417
166560616,166568990,2018-04-03 10:31:26,That or find an instance of paki training his dog to something equally offensive. (this has already been tried?) There has to be a few scumbags out there who would do it just as a troll to show how they won't get arrested for doing the same thing as a white guy.,,Anonymous,,,JP,,1522751486
166560616,166569044,2018-04-03 10:32:02,">>166568410
""Resorting"".
I'm not saying we shouldn't compromise with support for popular platforms to gain success, but no compromise on the goals.
>>166568727
All the people who can teah their dog to do a Hitler salute, is a smaller nuber then all the people who can share a picture online.
I'm not saying don't do it. Obviously it'll have more impact. Just that we should have as large a spread as possible.
And besides, the public has already shown they're put off by the arrest over a real dog. Could you imagine the outrage if some teenage edgelord was arrested over a *picture*?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522751522
166560616,166569077,2018-04-03 10:32:23,">>166568878
exactly, who gives a shit about a meme picture when newspapers are news sites are filled with people being arrested over jokes in real life mocking the Nazis.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522751543
166560616,166569397,2018-04-03 10:36:11,">>166569077
Same could be said about arrests over real dogs, anon. ""who cares, shouldn't have taught him the trick, doesn't affect me.""
Pictures, though, play to what Britain is capable of right now- it's *slacktivism*.
Anyone can share a picture and feel like they've done something. And the more people who sahre, the more are ""culpable"".",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522751771
166560616,166570850,2018-04-03 10:54:35,,,Anonymous,1485977445530.png,Tn+DH67/OV5KdpxDi/QqSw==,GB,,1522752875
166560616,166570863,2018-04-03 10:54:46,,,Anonymous,1520515923055.jpg,c5+sGSI8KUzw/o33hLJoHA==,GB,,1522752886
166560616,166570872,2018-04-03 10:54:57,,,Anonymous,BritPepeCigar2.jpg,pJFb3dkHP5YE3zkU80ts4Q==,GB,,1522752897
166560616,166570895,2018-04-03 10:55:10,,,Anonymous,DE333FE4-3523-424F-B4E6-9DA91C5AA23B.png,1WhUjyowQQKxA7hW4GkVog==,GB,,1522752910
166560616,166571222,2018-04-03 10:59:34,bumpu,,Anonymous,1522680263910.gif,BGn6WMptin0FHRbpXW2iug==,GB,,1522753174
166560616,166571375,2018-04-03 11:01:59,"Coal burner vs Jew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KO0X52HVU",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522753319
166560616,166571820,2018-04-03 11:07:33,">>166571375
Could the guy in the background be any more of a stereotype?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522753653
166560616,166573193,2018-04-03 11:23:33,,,Anonymous,god save the queen 2.png,XkaZis4HeGjP3QZJ+MYqLQ==,GB,,1522754613
166560616,166573248,2018-04-03 11:24:07,,,Anonymous,1521848296163.png,rPAtFE0tnIB+NGMRmRMtzQ==,GB,,1522754647
166560616,166574409,2018-04-03 11:38:51,"is there much point in joining/starting political parties? if anything is challenging the establishment it will probably be banned. i.e. close the borders, pro-ethnic european/british, anti-multiculturalist.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522755531
166560616,166574817,2018-04-03 11:43:24,">>166574409
Starting, not much.
Joining a smaller party could be useful, though. Especially if it's big enough to have a national reach, but small enough for ideas to spread and people to move around.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522755804
166560616,166576093,2018-04-03 11:57:15,">>166574817
just don't want to get false hope, what platforms can we propose that will stop the demographic changes? if you suggest monetary repatriation you will be slandered and may be banned for being 'racist'. could we be openly ethnic nationalist?
perhaps we should focus on getting these restrictions on speech repealed like you suggested.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522756635
166560616,166576524,2018-04-03 12:02:16,">>166576093
Thats a good first goal.
Another easy one to shoot for would be regional imigration policies, instead of Westminster telling everyone that they need to prepare space and how much.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/05/theresa-may-faces-calls-to-implement-regional-immigration-policy
It's bcked by Chuka Umunna, a black labour MP. So you can't exactly say it's racist, but it's another small victory.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522756936
166560616,166577758,2018-04-03 12:17:40,">>166576524
>Failing to do so has left a vacuum for extremists and peddlers of hate to exploit.
jesus christ i hate the guardian.
I think if we want a successful political platform we need to present real solutions in a non aggressive manner.
-close the borders
-cultural revival and set the terms that britain is not 'multicultural'
-get rid of a lot of the benefits for non british people
-ban the dodgy mosques
-offer repatriation to non-european peoples
-environmental policies
-anti interventionist foreign policy. stop fighting international banker wars.
economics isn't my strong suit but perhaps we can be flexible on what helps benefit the nation and people, win over some labour leaning people.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522757860
166560616,166578075,2018-04-03 12:21:33,">>166560616
I've said this already you don't fight an enemy like this head on it's like Judo - you have to use the enemy's force against them.
Our problem is Islam is a coherent, zealous ideology and we are a tolerant ""open society"" which won't defend itself. It's inevitable we're going to be eaten from the inside by it - it's like dodos being confronted with a predatory species, we're no longer ideologically or culturally equipped as a population to defend ourselves.
We have to do it two-pronged. On the one hand...
>pic related
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/437673/Council-killjoys-ban-taxi-driver-from-having-St-George-s-Cross-on-cab-for-discrimination
...is almost already considered a ""racist"" flag, not quite, but it tends to have racist connotations in the minds of some people. You need to start wearing English flags, hanging English flags outside your house - if it makes people uncomfortable it should draw attention to the fact that they are essentially anti-English.
Simultaneously we should consider getting a movement going to infiltrate Islam by having white British males convert to it en masse and we should start becoming just as fundamentalist about Islam as the Muslims are. On the one hand the Muslims will appreciate it, but what we're actually in our advocacy trying to do is draw attention to what a regressive and anti-British faith it is.
The idea is to align the left against Islam (which they should be anyway) or force them into a corner where they have to admit they are hostile to whites and the native population. It wouldn't hurt to see the St George's cross mixed into an Islamic movement either because the St George's cross has connotations with the crusades.",,Anonymous,1280px-Flag_of_England.svg.png,7Cn09Yd87Iin6I8iN3TEug==,GB,,1522758093
166560616,166578395,2018-04-03 12:25:11,">>166578075
All of that can be done legally, advocacy for Sharia law, wearing St George's Crosses - it's merely trying to split open the unspoken cultural double standard by straining it to breaking point by bringing the culturally oppressed native groups into impossible ideological proximity with the culturally protected foreign groups. 
It can be done.",,Anonymous,deception_p48.png,11MJjC6qNUeqxsF1f0DNpA==,GB,,1522758311
166560616,166578622,2018-04-03 12:28:06,">>166577758
Labour ripped off a lot of Mosley's platform ater the war and just increased it's reach and edited out the parts that restricted the power of the unions. And that's what labour's trying to harken back too, to win over people pissed off by international finance stripping the country.
We're not really focssing on a political platform right now; this isn't so much about winning electoral victories as forming the vanguard we desperately need. But writing up a list of points and ideas to spread where we can & fight towards is a good idea.
>>166578075
I like the flags idea. Winning back it's free use.
The islam idea... I don't mind strengthening their own identites to highlight that we're different peoples, but infiltration & false flagging sounds kind of like when Sargon wanted us to become SJWs.
And also pretty LARPish.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522758486
166560616,166578939,2018-04-03 12:31:40,">>166578622
i think we need to at least try and get a move on with political parties. the sooner we spread ideas and national spirit the better. the demographics are getting worse over time. it may reach a point where electoral victory is impossible. 
how do we claim power with vanguardism? let the system destroy itself?",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522758700
166560616,166579358,2018-04-03 12:36:14,">>166578622
I'm not saying false flags I'm saying genuine mass conversion to Islam - it's not a LARP, you have to believe it. 
Islam is obviously not compatible with British culture, by us joining it (let's be honest a lot of /pol/'s ideas align with fundamentalist Islam already - hatred of banks, degeneracy, a sense that women if given too much authority will destroy society following their genetic imperatives, etc) we will contaminate it with what is considered to be the one true whipping post for all other cultures to unite around - native, white British men. 
We're being D&C'd as a culture and unlike the left which is inherently destructive and incoherently aligned with incompatible interests in an attempt to undermine the native culture - we actually have an ideological alignment with Islam.
How you choose to deal with Islam afterwards is your decision, after all Christianity isn't a native faith to these islands either - but you've got to shift the D&C tactics by uniting with a party they expect you to be fighting.
How can they argue against it? You split them open on their own stupidity. We use the cover they have afforded Islam to pursue our own political goals or by our use of it we make it such a liability that cover has to be destroyed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522758974
166560616,166579585,2018-04-03 12:38:55,">>166578622
If we do it fast we can win through numbers whereas and the balance of parties - if we don't we'll be eroded as a culture anyway and it will happen with no prospect of shifting it in a desirable direction.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759135
166560616,166579679,2018-04-03 12:39:54,">>166578939
Kind of.
We know we're headed for an economic fall sometime in the next couple of decades, and without the city banking in London we really will fall to below third world levels.
For obvious reasons, we don't want to be the ones in power to be ""responsible"" for it when it happens.
What we need to be doing, is strengthening our positions, building up a nation-wide movement and getting into smaller governmental positions, so we can be in a good position to say ""I told you so"" to a suddenly receptive crowd.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759194
166560616,166579794,2018-04-03 12:41:06,">>166560616
This thread has been reported to Mi5 for far right hate crimes. Your IPs have been logged.",,Anonymous,,,,,1522759266
166560616,166579860,2018-04-03 12:41:47,">>166579358
I understand we could use the cover of Islam to do much, but once we put down our flags and pick up theirs there is no way we can go back. 
The entire point is not to give in.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759307
166560616,166579866,2018-04-03 12:41:53,">>166579358
would rather we didn't join that shit. we should do away with Islam, Christianity, Judaism at some point. all are bad for Europe in some way.
islam is destructive for a healthy society, it may be 'anti-degeneracy' but it takes things too far. i don't think they will see the error of their ways, they will just blame white people for the negative aspects and make excuses for non-whites. they are not logically consistent.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522759313
166560616,166579984,2018-04-03 12:43:24,">>166579358
>>166579585
Oh, I get it.
You saw the white Shariah meme and took it a little too literally.
Well no, obviously we're not going to be joining islam just because it's easier for u to give up.
But like i say, i like the flag Idea.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759404
166560616,166580027,2018-04-03 12:43:44,">>166579794
>implying we're not already on a list",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522759424
166560616,166580028,2018-04-03 12:43:45,">>166579794
Cool.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759425
166560616,166580091,2018-04-03 12:44:42,">>166578622
You don't even have to actually join Islam, you just have to speak to people who don't know any better or can't verifiy it who are on the left as though you actually are one. 
Say that you are one, study the Koran, recite it - and state the most extreme and offensive aspects of Islam as your fundamental belief, anti-homosexual, women as 2nd class citizens, etc. 
Shield your offensive views under the umbrella, and that whilst you can agree to disagree, it is ultimately your faith and sooner or later once Islam has the majority it will be democratically implemented as policy.
Create the divide between the left and Islam they should see anyway but won't because most of its adherents aren't white males.",,Anonymous,12a4235d2e18afe7d6fe622a1b284ec48fd3063ed3c4dbd6cca79a37094d076f.gif,PiRnX9sgxeUW1wLmXTAqUQ==,GB,,1522759482
166560616,166580179,2018-04-03 12:45:42,">>166580091
So we have to truly beleive it, but also fake it?
Get your story straight.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759542
166560616,166580211,2018-04-03 12:46:03,">>166560616
Finally, something decent.
The brit/pol is utter cancer.",,Anonymous,,,BW,,1522759563
166560616,166580263,2018-04-03 12:46:39,">>166579794
What are you talking about we just want to join Islam, we see now it is a superior system and wish to institute its tenets in the UK.
Isn't that what you want, brother?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759599
166560616,166580432,2018-04-03 12:48:23,">>166580263
Kek i actually couldnt give a fuck what happens to bongistan.
Im just a shitposting aussie.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522759703
166560616,166580587,2018-04-03 12:50:08,">>166580432
you are in the same multicultural boat i'm afraid. at least there is more space in ausland to move away from it.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522759808
166560616,166580592,2018-04-03 12:50:10,">>166580432
The penal colony always brings the bants",,Anonymous,ColonialChuckle.jpg,rC10TBU/AJeK1U7edQD22w==,GB,,1522759810
166560616,166580638,2018-04-03 12:50:49,">>166580179
I don't think it matters one way or the other whether you believe it or fake it the point is if we subscribe to it with sufficient numbers we bleach / undermine it through osmosis both because we would become the dominant voice in a protected cultural class whilst turning the ideologically allied (if rationally incoherent) leftist allies of it against it through our presence.
Intelligence services do this all the time they infiltrate groups and masquerade in them domestically or they pose as double agents for hostile powers - we're not using any tactics they don't themselves plus it's all legal.
Provided you're ideologically proximate enough they can't target you for any other reason beyond the fact you're white.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759849
166560616,166580816,2018-04-03 12:52:52,Hello Special Branch,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522759972
166560616,166580874,2018-04-03 12:53:30,">>166580638
Okay, i'll make it really simple.
No.
we're not converting islam, fake or otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522760010
166560616,166580919,2018-04-03 12:54:00,">>166580432
>What are you talking about we just want to join Islam, we see now it is a superior system and wish to institute its tenets in the UK.
>Isn't that what you want, brother?
I mean the beauty of even a statement like this is if someone says I'm being insincere I can just say I'm trying to taqiyya the infidel into converting to Islam through a double bluff.
If anyone questions it I can assert that lying to infiltrate is a component of my faith and they should stop being such cultural imperialists.",,Anonymous,considerthefollowing.jpg,MBHMUP1XZ/lghKzvSHgZAg==,GB,,1522760040
166560616,166580929,2018-04-03 12:54:08,">>166580638
inb4 your muslim friends kill you for not being faithful enough to their religion.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522760048
166560616,166580980,2018-04-03 12:54:37,">>166579794
>Far right hate crimes.
Are the British Authorities going to fly all the way here to this African nation to arrest me?",,Anonymous,,,BW,,1522760077
166560616,166581042,2018-04-03 12:55:17,">>166580816
I'm not special branch, and none of this is illegal.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522760117
166560616,166581085,2018-04-03 12:55:41,">>166580874
Well I'll wear the odd St George's cross then if you like but I swear dude I make money spotting longterm trends and if you're not willing to use these tactics you're pretty much going to lose or win a Pyrrhic victory.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522760141
166560616,166581260,2018-04-03 12:57:27,">>166580816
you implying any discussion of nationalist politics is the work of a government employee? come on man, don't be this cucked.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522760247
166560616,166581341,2018-04-03 12:58:10,">>166581042
>I'm not special branch 
We have no chance of organisating anything. We have intelligence agencies that are more powerful than those of the US, and do not have a constitution to protect us.",,Anonymous,1522309946980.png,TsCPiw0jNTlWu2zjWmh4fw==,GB,,1522760290
166560616,166581490,2018-04-03 13:00:00,">>166581260
You aren't helping yourself officer",,Anonymous,1517865772907.jpg,lWRFE1ZRV10WHVOJsOUh2w==,GB,,1522760400
166560616,166581525,2018-04-03 13:00:15,">>166580929
Being killed as an apostate provided it's high-profile enough would only serve to underline how toxic Islam is and against British values. 
Are you actually willing to die to protect your culture? The British have survived this long and punched so far above their weight for so long because we were very advanced at this sort of tradecraft.
And nowadays with intelligence services as abusive and overreaching as they are about capacities they've denied and standing on less and less of an assymetry of information versus what's open source, we're just as equipped to use their tactics provided what we're doing is legal.
And how can anyone say that subscribing to Islam and pushing for it to become the template for British law and policy through democratic election is illegal without also turning people against Islam?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522760415
166560616,166581758,2018-04-03 13:02:39,">>166562694
Defeatist faggot",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522760559
166560616,166582009,2018-04-03 13:05:09,">>166581341
>Give up Goy, it's hopeless! Our Government is far too powerfl and knowledgeable and handsome to allow us to fight back!
See, that sounds more like a thing special branch would say.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522760709
166560616,166582023,2018-04-03 13:05:15,">>166580587
No not the Same boat.
You see your asians rape your wimmins and refuse to integrate eventualy it will be great bongistani caliphate. 
Asians in my country are rich and successful and will ensure australias relevance as a regional power after the anglo world has fallen. We are a vassak state to the world naval power or atleast to the regional one.
We have better asians.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522760715
166560616,166582100,2018-04-03 13:06:06,">>166562479
Not being jailed for a tweet and not hearing news about rape gangs every week sounds like a good cause.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1522760766
166560616,166582127,2018-04-03 13:06:27,">>166580980
Nah just predator drone you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522760787
166560616,166582190,2018-04-03 13:07:13,">>166581525
if i was going to die for something i certainly wouldn't want it to be because of this bullshit lmao.
>>166581490
enjoy not discussing any type of solution because you are paranoid. it is only beneficial to gov to bait out potential extremists, do you see anyone coercing you into doing something illegal here?",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522760833
166560616,166582297,2018-04-03 13:08:20,">>166581490
The image gave me the chills. It must be scary as fuck expressing an opinion on the internet in the UK. The Govt. Is in your bedroom watching you post bro... fuck that.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522760900
166560616,166582353,2018-04-03 13:09:00,">>166582023
lubing up your behind for chang? the state of aussie posters",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522760940
166560616,166582856,2018-04-03 13:14:41,">>166582353
What do you want mate? Honestly. We are geographically challenged. We are a continent sized island nation with huge fuck off desert and little no no farming land. As with all island nations we require on ocean trade routes to supply what we cant produce domestically. We will always be a vassal state to a naval power. Weve had a prwtty good run with britain and the US. But if china becomes the regional naval power we must ally with them or risk being crushed economically. A naval blockade would break us and our government is too autistic to become self sufficient naval power. Mainly because it makes us a target we dont want or need to be.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522761281
166560616,166583041,2018-04-03 13:16:41,">>166582353
At least under chang i still get to be anglo. Ans i wont need to worry about muhammed raping my women.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522761401
166560616,166583191,2018-04-03 13:18:11,">>166582856
become an aussie superpower. start fucking like there's no tomorrow. millions more people to the population. make your own massive navy. be intimidating, don't be a doormat. terraform the desert wasteland. austopia.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522761491
166560616,166583224,2018-04-03 13:18:31,">>166583041
No, just africa-style migration.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522761511
166560616,166583992,2018-04-03 13:25:47,Is this bundes,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522761947
166560616,166584037,2018-04-03 13:26:12,"Why hasn't anyone mentioned the working class in this thread? 
The working class is still overwhelmingly British, and if you can get them on board by reducing taxes and through the implementation of policies that greatly improve job growth and whatnot you'll win, they are the back bone of this country, we don't need any of that socialist or nazi shite, just common sense...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522761972
166560616,166584042,2018-04-03 13:26:13,">>166583191
>become an aussie superpower. 
Cant geographically deficent.
We do not have the water, nor the agricultural land. We are alo located in the wrong hemisphere.
There are 3 regions in the world that can rise to super power status. North america , europe and china. Thats it. The have the water, fertile soil, people and international trade routes. At most australia can achieve regional power status. I would like to see us as a self suficient regional power but we need policy change in how we defend our coyntey for that.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522761973
166560616,166584260,2018-04-03 13:28:32,">>166584037
>workingclass back bone of bongland
No you make your money through the financial sector your workingclass are a drain on your economy. Working class are only good in a manufacturing society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522762112
166560616,166584319,2018-04-03 13:29:12,">>166567301
We have mo fyaz. He's a ex muslim paki who is disgusted with the other pakis in the UK and he goes on the anti rape gang marches.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522762152
166560616,166584545,2018-04-03 13:31:15,">>166584042
you can always wait for weather manipulating tech to help fertilise the continent. bring the rain from the pacific your way. don't necessarily need to be a massive trade hub, you can be a self sufficient power. need a big fuck off military as well.",,Anonymous,,,JE,,1522762275
166560616,166584617,2018-04-03 13:31:49,">>166584260
Yeah but they are the largest segment of society, even though financial services make the money there are a lot less people working in that sector",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522762309
166560616,166584939,2018-04-03 13:35:01,">Claims to love our country
>Sucks nazi dick and defends what the Germans tried to do to us in WWII
>Defends the Germans and not his own country
Explain you faggots 
DON'T give me the MUH WWII killed us, that was the US new friends.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522762501
166560616,166585148,2018-04-03 13:37:23,">>166584939
This",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522762643
166560616,166585413,2018-04-03 13:39:48,">>166584545
The issue isnt the rain from the pacific its the fact there are no mountains here that have snow all year round. The east coat is green thats it. Everything else is sahara tier desert just red. There are no nutrients left in the soil its all been bleached. The middle of the continent will kill you if you look at it wrong. Had a manc working with me on a mining gig in the middle of the desert he didnt last a day poor bastard got worst case of sunburn and dehydration ive ever seen.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522762788
166560616,166585434,2018-04-03 13:40:01,">>166584939
Where did i even mention Germany?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522762801
166560616,166585524,2018-04-03 13:40:57,">>166584939
Yea the US killed the empire. It was always their plan.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522762857
166560616,166585805,2018-04-03 13:43:34,">>166584939
>tried to do to us
>tried to let us go to keep us out of the war
Dont get your nickers in a twist mate.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1522763014
166560616,166586078,2018-04-03 13:46:33,">>166584037
You sound like my dad, boomer.
""Reducing taxes"" from what? How much are the working class currenntly paying in taxes?
And how do you implement policies that improve job opportunities ""and whatnot"" without some sort of government spending ""shite""? The Tories have been trying that for a while now, and the working class fucking hates them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522763193
166560616,166587001,2018-04-03 13:55:09,">>166584939
kike WWII was a mistake",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522763709
166560616,166588911,2018-04-03 14:12:53,">>166586078
""Reducing taxes"" from what? How much are the working class currenntly paying in taxes?""
That's why people hate the Tories, they've been taxing the working class to oblivion for a while now and little has changed, that and the fact they think throwing more money at problems will solve them, rather than looking at what our priorities should be, for example instead of having so many people at the top running the NHS and the police force, cut down on their numbers and start redirecting resources effectively... Also they need to stop being soft cocks towards Brexit and immigration, that'd help too.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522764773
166560616,166589862,2018-04-03 14:20:57,">>166588911
>Boomer doesn't know what greentext is
They're spending that much on administration so that people like you will think they're throwing money around.
They've been strangling the NHS and the police force, which is why they;ve made up crimes to go after internet shitposters rather then criminals. It's cheaper.
Meanwhile, the administrators they are spending the money on make the transistion process into for-profit services that much easier.
And they aren't being ""soft cocks"" on either of those issues. They're doing exactly what they intended to do.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522765257
166560616,166593032,2018-04-03 14:49:01,,,Anonymous,1b.jpg,uOj8A9JiJ4gEgJfDXflLJA==,GB,,1522766941
166560616,166594982,2018-04-03 15:08:27,,,Anonymous,Onlyoneengland.png,8j313edPf9vbXw/k4FQe7Q==,GB,,1522768107
166836004,166836004,2018-04-05 09:07:50,">what is this thread for?
This thread is for discussing Parties, politicians and movements looking to reverse the demographic shift, whether covertly through policy or overtly through spreading awareness; and discussing campaigns, events & examples we can use to spread support, to create a united right.
>Don't bother, Britain is fucked anyway
London is not Britain. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are still homogenous, even with the rise of (((celtic nationalism))); And so are most areas outside of the three biggest cities and certain towns in the south.
Support for the left is currently heightened thanks to Chairman Corbyn's propaganda department and the lack of a proper right wing to stand up to him, but all the same, it's an economic reaction to 8 years of Neocon, and not an endorsement of his SJWism; and it's no greater then the support for Obama in 2008.
We know the support is there, we saw it in Brexit and the lack of support in the public for a second refferendum. If we can make the change, then they will not be reversed.
>so what do we do?
Start coming up with ops for some moralization & raising awarenes of important issues, to sow some seeds in the public mind that the right is gaining traction and talking about the real problems.
Once that's underway, there are a number of organisations big enough to reach a wide audience and small enough for our influence to have an impact. We should focus on winning them over, and using their resources to build a movement.",/BVG/ British Vanguardism General,Anonymous,UnionJack.gif,yQZ9FxfEthv+6Gd7gWtyfQ==,GB,,1522919270
166836004,166836166,2018-04-05 09:09:54,">Brainstorming
.A good place to start would be the Dankula case. A small campaign, an easy victory, but moralisation we desperately need. Dankula was arreted under broad hate crime legislation, and the act he was charged under applies to the whole UK.
So according to the UK government, it's a hatecrime to make a dog look like a nazi.
Why don't we turn nazi dogs into a meme about free speech & spread it around?
.The prioritising of regional immigration policy. This can at least slow things down to prevent further changes in regional england (i.e not the big cities) . A policy that allows areas of the UK to refuse new immigrants is close enough to mainstream political discourse that it could actually become popular.
Here it is mentioned in the news papers:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jan/05/theresa-may-faces-calls-to-implement-regional-immigration-policy
.The obvious connections with those in govt and the celeb world who’ve gone down because of Operation Yew Tree, collectively holds the key to mass awareness and uprising. As Americans have done with the Clinton Foundation horrors and pizzagate and the Hollywood pedo scandals, research and put the links together. Then start disseminating the info to the masses in digestible, credible chunks. Show them simply yet graphically how their govt and country have been slowly and strategically infiltrated beginning long ago. Emphasize how THIS shit really is the essence of modern invasion and warfare, since due to the existence of nuclear weapons, enemies are too fearful to start a direct hot war.",,Anonymous,1516912212377.jpg,seYfCoux4Nb/VyoN6hdxGQ==,GB,,1522919394
166836004,166836186,2018-04-05 09:10:14,">>166836004
Hi Mi5. 
I thought we already discussed this is clearly a bait bread. You should stop making it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1522919414
166836004,166836198,2018-04-05 09:10:22,".Studying the successes and methods of the underground resistance movements in occupied countries during WWII. You basically are under a creeping, gradually spreading globalist occupation. Most western nations are, but some are under heavier attack. Ultimately, charismatic leaders will be necessary. We can see how the left’s trying to ditch failures like Hillary Clinton and recruit young future leaders like David Hogg and the bald lesbian chick. We should be doing the same—not questionable Richard Spencer types and e-celebs, but promising youth who can enter politics and fight.
.Spread awareness of the massive extent of the Pakistani paedophile gangs, it's a clear as day example how cultures are not equal, and how political correctness is dangerous. Another example is the acid attacks, the practice has been imported straight from Bengal. It's very hard to argue against this.
.Updates on Nationalist groups such as Veterans Against Terrorism, Football Lads Alliance, Democratic Football Lads Alliance, Generation Identity UK, Identity Albion (Master Brew). There are many marches being organised by these types of groups and it is important our lads know about them. They are getting bigger and bigger with you youth of the middle class getting more involved.",,Anonymous,14847010.jpg,Zv2b1xGvuzhXEpiyH7CWHQ==,GB,,1522919422
166836004,166836264,2018-04-05 09:11:24,Has any UK party offered help or even acknowledged white farmers in SA?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1522919484
166836004,166836425,2018-04-05 09:13:36,">>166836264
No, and that's part of the state of British politics.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522919616
166836004,166836567,2018-04-05 09:15:09,">>166836186
How is it bait, anon? What am i ""baiting"" people into doing?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522919709
166836004,166837100,2018-04-05 09:21:40,hey look it's my favourite larping general,,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920100
166836004,166837125,2018-04-05 09:21:57,hey guise look i'm poor,,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920117
166836004,166837144,2018-04-05 09:22:13,did i do it right? did i larp right?,,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920133
166836004,166837178,2018-04-05 09:22:37,What a retarded fucking thread,,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920157
166836004,166837203,2018-04-05 09:22:53,Utter state of this threads inhabitants,,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920173
166836004,166837231,2018-04-05 09:23:10,">>166837203
It's just you two at the moment.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920190
166836004,166837249,2018-04-05 09:23:24,">>166837231
Shut the fuck up.",,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920204
166836004,166837314,2018-04-05 09:24:17,">>166837249
Think i struck a nerve.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920257
166836004,166837326,2018-04-05 09:24:24,">>166836004
enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdFzMLZAXEM",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1522920264
166836004,166837454,2018-04-05 09:26:08,">>166837314
Quit hating just because you wallow in your misery all by yourself.",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920368
166836004,166837534,2018-04-05 09:27:06,">>166837454
Within the first twenty comments?
Thanks for bumping, by the way.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920426
166836004,166837553,2018-04-05 09:27:22,"What do you reccomend we do, OP?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920442
166836004,166837609,2018-04-05 09:28:06,">>166837534
I wasn't referring to the thread but your life.",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920486
166836004,166837624,2018-04-05 09:28:14,">>166837553
See >>166836166
>>166836198
First thing we should focus on is publicity for the dankula case.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920494
166836004,166837682,2018-04-05 09:29:01,">>166836004
Any idea how to stop people voting for the two main parties? I try to convince people but my words have no lasting impact, often they'll just brush off any arguments I have.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920541
166836004,166837690,2018-04-05 09:29:10,">>166837609
Said the namefag strongarming for a shitposting board faction.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920550
166836004,166837703,2018-04-05 09:29:21,">>166836004
Way too late for that. Britain is already a 1984 shithole country. France is fucked too same with Sweden and some parts of western germany.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1522920561
166836004,166837856,2018-04-05 09:31:20,">>166837682
People are already growing sick of the Tories. their support base is getting older, their support's going to drop off with time.
It's Labour that's going to be the issue, since Corbyn can reasonably present himself as opposing the establishment.
But his committment to an increasingly SJW party is going to be his downfall in a naturally conservative population.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920680
166836004,166837923,2018-04-05 09:32:18,">>166837624
Good ideas.
We need to change culture (the way people think) before we can change things politically.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920738
166836004,166837950,2018-04-05 09:32:37,">>166837856
corbyn has the support of the muslims",,Nadiya Hussein,mureeds.jpg,EK9Y14og0BjWJIu/IbXvBA==,GB,,1522920757
166836004,166837973,2018-04-05 09:32:55,">>166837624
whats the latest in that anyway?",,Nadiya Hussein,,,GB,,1522920775
166836004,166837995,2018-04-05 09:33:19,">>166837690
Quit hating just because we found love in a hopeless place.",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522920799
166836004,166838127,2018-04-05 09:35:04,">>166837973
He's still waiting to be sentenced.
But since the court has ruled that context doesn't exist and humour is illegal if it's offensive, i think it's in our interest to point out to them the error of their ways.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522920904
166836004,166838261,2018-04-05 09:36:53,">>166837950
That's a good point, actually.
Half of their support has ideas about society completely juxtaposed to the other half.
It may be difficult to get around leftist doublethink, but we should try and find a way; we could split that party down the middle.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522921013
166836004,166838278,2018-04-05 09:37:01,">>166838127
I hope they do sentence him, because it will cause an uproar, didn't ricky gervais of all people support him?",,Nadiya Hussein,,,GB,,1522921021
166836004,166838432,2018-04-05 09:39:06,">>166838278
He did, and Graham Linehan got savaged on twitter for saying he didn't care what happened to him.
And it's the outrage i'm counting on. If we can have an op ready to go, right when people are looking to get angry about it...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522921146
166836004,166838556,2018-04-05 09:40:40,">>166838261
it already is, the left will eat itself, it's inevitable, we need to concentrate on limiting the damage caused.",,Nadiya Hussein,,,GB,,1522921240
166836004,166838652,2018-04-05 09:42:00,Utter state of this thread.,,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522921320
166836004,166838695,2018-04-05 09:42:35,">>166838556
That's why we're here.
The right has no movement at the moment, if any happenings happen we aren't in a position to capitalise quickly.
We need to start acting like a vanguard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YVrF2DdTp0",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522921355
166836004,166838717,2018-04-05 09:42:50,">>166838432
didn't realise he was such a cunt",,Nadiya Hussein,cunt2.png,IuR18i8DtOYIsdIGjmDImA==,GB,,1522921370
166836004,166839031,2018-04-05 09:46:37,">>166838717
take your broke ass home",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522921597
166836004,166839323,2018-04-05 09:50:20,">>166839031
Thanks for bumping the thread, namefag.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522921820
166836004,166839380,2018-04-05 09:51:03,">>166836198
>youth of the middle class
>not being son of benefit scrounger",,Anonymous,coffeepepe.png,GjTc+BB0o/YXM6ICO5qC9g==,GB,,1522921863
166836004,166839417,2018-04-05 09:51:23,">>166839323
you haven't got one of these LARPtard generals past post 100 yet kek",,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522921883
166836004,166839492,2018-04-05 09:52:22,">>166839417
The first one reached the bmp limit, the second got past 200.
If you're going to insult me, at least do it properly.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522921942
166836004,166839731,2018-04-05 09:55:34,">>166839492
LARPing cunt.",,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522922134
166836004,166839763,2018-04-05 09:55:59,">>166839492
your mum gives under the table handies at burger king for a chicken royale while you post on brit/pol/ instead of making money you cunt",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522922159
166836004,166839798,2018-04-05 09:56:34,">>166839763
It took you 3 minutes to think of that?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922194
166836004,166839800,2018-04-05 09:56:35,">>166839417
So you are a lefty-fag then and your posts are actually attempts at disrupting any form of discussion in a right wing space. Can I ask why you don't just prepare some arguments instead of trying degrade the quality of the board.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922195
166836004,166839882,2018-04-05 09:57:36,">>166839800
They're brit/pol/ factionalists. Their whole reason for being here is degrading the quality of the board.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922256
166836004,166839924,2018-04-05 09:58:04,"Brit/pol/ has been nuked.
I had two political threads nuked too.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922284
166836004,166839964,2018-04-05 09:58:39,">>166839798
Just because you spend all your time waiting to witness our wisdom when we post doesn't mean we wait for you.
We're out here making money while your mum and your new uncle are at it at bk",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522922319
166836004,166840012,2018-04-05 09:59:16,">they do it for free
Fucking mods take your broke as home lmao",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522922356
166836004,166840092,2018-04-05 10:00:25,">they do it for free
Fucking mods take your broke ass home lmao",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522922425
166836004,166840424,2018-04-05 10:01:11,">>166840092
>implying you get paid",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922471
166836004,166840489,2018-04-05 10:02:06,">>166840424
the utter state of p**rcunts coping mechanisms 
I get paid more for my speeches than clinton you newfag.",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522922526
166836004,166840538,2018-04-05 10:02:46,">>166840424
Just STOP responding to Pubes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922566
166836004,166840650,2018-04-05 10:04:06,">>166840538
It keeps the thread bumped while there isn't any other conversation going on.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922646
166836004,166840776,2018-04-05 10:05:57,I think this is the most British accounts I've seen in one thread,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922757
166836004,166840810,2018-04-05 10:06:28,">>166840650
I know what you're saying but at the current point in time Pubes has managed to get Brit/pol/ nuked by a Jannie because all he does is spam complete and utter fucking nonsense. He's likely gone to to r9k now to continue doing the same.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922788
166836004,166840870,2018-04-05 10:07:20,">>166840776
Great, isn't it? So pure...
>>166840810
Fair point. I'll stop responding to the sliders.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922840
166836004,166840896,2018-04-05 10:07:34,">>166840776
I've given up on the state of /pol/ at the moment. If I don't use a meme flag I can expect the same 3-6 stock responses from Yank flags and the same 5-15 news clippings with them too.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922854
166836004,166840957,2018-04-05 10:08:13,">>166840776
British politics is so cucked its daft so anyone up for making Yorkshire independent and banning Islam",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922893
166836004,166841033,2018-04-05 10:09:06,">>166840957
Yorkshire because its full of racist skin heads we can get on our side",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922946
166836004,166841058,2018-04-05 10:09:25,What is it with you LARPing nonces?,,Dictator,,,GB,,1522922965
166836004,166841073,2018-04-05 10:09:44,Utter state of this thread.,,Dictator,,,GB,,1522922984
166836004,166841091,2018-04-05 10:09:57,">>166841058
who are you referring to",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522922997
166836004,166841133,2018-04-05 10:10:26,">>166841091
This threads p**rcunt inhabitants.",,Dictator,,,GB,,1522923026
166836004,166841225,2018-04-05 10:11:37,">>166841091
He left pretty much the same comment on brit/pol/. Just trying to get a rise.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923097
166836004,166841309,2018-04-05 10:12:30,">>166841091
He only says the same fourteen things.
Ignore. Filter his tripcode and names",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923150
166836004,166841311,2018-04-05 10:12:30,LARPing cunts kek.,,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522923150
166836004,166841315,2018-04-05 10:12:33,">>166841133
p**r I'm not sure what this is meant o be",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923153
166836004,166841360,2018-04-05 10:13:16,">>166841315
soz can be a bit dumb at times",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923196
166836004,166841389,2018-04-05 10:13:49,">>166841315
see >>166841225
>>166841309",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923229
166836004,166841405,2018-04-05 10:14:04,">>166837950
That could be a good thing, Labour the home of child raping pakis. Corbyn loves the muds",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1522923244
166836004,166841473,2018-04-05 10:14:58,">>166841405
and hates the Jews I think he may be a closet Muslim",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923298
166836004,166841623,2018-04-05 10:16:44,">>166841309
>He only says the same fourteen things.
Because you're too p**r to afford the full speech.",,Glamorous Georgie [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522923404
166836004,166841624,2018-04-05 10:16:45,,,Anonymous,bigbrother.jpg,RJal8rW7KwhfMMCax0/SHw==,GB,,1522923405
166836004,166841701,2018-04-05 10:17:37,">>166841033 
not all of us
>>166840957
I'm up for it x 5",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1522923457
166836004,166841871,2018-04-05 10:19:50,"I'm from a play where blacks are basically forced out by gangs
its good theres no child rape",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923590
166836004,166841956,2018-04-05 10:20:56,">>166840957
>>166841701
Not so fast guys. Just noticed this in Brit/pol/- we may have our first bit of hope. >>166841746",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923656
166836004,166841980,2018-04-05 10:21:10,and the pikis that are here came in the70s and are British loving citizens that are completely integrated,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522923670
166836004,166843520,2018-04-05 10:40:27,">>166841956
he looks like heel resurrect the party",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522924827
166836004,166843791,2018-04-05 10:43:36,">>166843520
which I'm all for and I cant wait to see UKIP become a big party and get rid of these socialist SJW party's a change is needed and they will bring it 
for better or worse I don't know but it will be different
if the better England great, if they make it wore the normies might finally wake up",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522925016
166836004,166843994,2018-04-05 10:46:16,">>166843520
>>166843791
I hope so, but we shouldn't leave it up to chance.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522925176
166836004,166844012,2018-04-05 10:46:25,Whats with all the bizarro world postings by UK flags today,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522925185
166836004,166844388,2018-04-05 10:51:04,">>166837609
fugckin rekt d00d!!! raycis alt righters have no life and they are probably neckbeards and VIRGINS lmao",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522925464
166836004,166844737,2018-04-05 10:55:43,">>166844388
those stereotypes need to die 
I'm not even alt-right ,if anything I'm alt-light, and I still hate it 
simply casting aside someone's political opinions due to dumb stereotypes is the sine of a man who has no leg to stand on with his own beliefs",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522925743
166836004,166844889,2018-04-05 10:57:30,">>166844388
>>166844737
Namefags aren't here for the discussion, they're here to drag it down and get the thread modded like they do on brit/pol/.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522925850
166836004,166844935,2018-04-05 10:58:00,">British-Indian man gets his butter knives confiscated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAQ_3_aRxY",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522925880
166836004,166845023,2018-04-05 10:58:51,Kek. Utter state of newfags.,,Cash Splasher Dave [Coalition of Wealth],,,GB,,1522925931
166836004,166846229,2018-04-05 11:13:06,">>166838717
It gets worse.",,Anonymous,"I hear you're a cunt now, father.png",iWb86LVX7E3cntp8ZOUVpg==,GB,,1522926786
166836004,166847195,2018-04-05 11:24:33,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522927473
166836004,166847392,2018-04-05 11:26:58,">>166838261
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffv8V11lReU&t=1s
People live perfectly content lives with juxtaposed beliefs. Vid related. 
Labour to whites is a progressive party that they can feel good about voting for. For poor whites it's the party that will stop the tories from getting into power. For the young it's a party that will give them free university education.
For non-whites, it's the party that will open the borders even further and advance the interests of their racial and ethnic groups by giving them more at the expense of whites, and by making britain less white overall.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522927618
166836004,166847748,2018-04-05 11:31:09,">>166847392
They live perfectly content lives in a world where the juxtaposition isn't challenged.
Labour can't acheive everything they fight for without making deep compromises that'll leave everyone unsatisfied.
We have to drive the contradiction home. And not just by talking about it, either. By getting them to act on it themselves.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522927869
166836004,166848767,2018-04-05 11:41:34,">>166837100
>>166837125
>>166837144
>>166837454
>>166837609
>>166837995
>>166839031
>>166839763
>>166839964
>>166840092
>>166840489
>>166841623",,Anonymous,radar.gif,XEpl0tzOmlCwsxDGkeREmQ==,US,,1522928494
166836004,166848812,2018-04-05 11:42:08,">>166836004
i wish you guys the best
how could non bongs help?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1522928528
166836004,166848862,2018-04-05 11:42:38,">>166848767
At least the mods deleted the comments, instead of the thread.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522928558
166836004,166849340,2018-04-05 11:47:50,">>166848812
Keep an eye on the threads. Once we've got a definite plan for the first step (something to do with the Dankula case- >>166836166) we're going to need help getting it to take off.
In the meantime, any ideas for the brainstorming would be appreciated.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522928870
166836004,166850575,2018-04-05 12:01:44,,,Anonymous,1b.jpg,uOj8A9JiJ4gEgJfDXflLJA==,GB,,1522929704
166836004,166850593,2018-04-05 12:01:54,,,Anonymous,43C7C36D-1318-440B-A48B-B3D8940F1630.jpg,CQPonLysHS6Ctn2S8KMkew==,GB,,1522929714
166836004,166850617,2018-04-05 12:02:05,,,Anonymous,a7200001h.jpg,vtIEbigkOwWNNco1acqUCA==,GB,,1522929725
166836004,166851684,2018-04-05 12:14:17,I will help bump your thread,,Anonymous,1522855273082.jpg,6GPxdeR0JDVCTUZlbvqSYQ==,GB,,1522930457
166836004,166851766,2018-04-05 12:15:13,>>166851684,,Anonymous,1522854413898.png,KbsWarL5evPIMF8i4scB6w==,GB,,1522930513
166836004,166851852,2018-04-05 12:16:08,>>166851766,,Anonymous,1522751820117.jpg,2sQaOS76r0CPYI8p8iqJQQ==,GB,,1522930568
166836004,166852035,2018-04-05 12:18:05,>>166851852,,Anonymous,1447515020207.jpg,q4E6k64fUuARn45UqSyNnA==,GB,,1522930685
166836004,166854430,2018-04-05 12:43:19,,,Anonymous,1511379771350m.jpg,+8OySvwgHa20tXcoMHvTtg==,GB,,1522932199
166836004,166854440,2018-04-05 12:43:28,,,Anonymous,1511379795382m.jpg,d8cmiTgGvfa8vpw3g9CbHA==,GB,,1522932208
166836004,166854455,2018-04-05 12:43:38,,,Anonymous,1511379847862m.jpg,adAG5307P7lQ+YWC1m1YDA==,GB,,1522932218
166836004,166854472,2018-04-05 12:43:48,,,Anonymous,1511379904320m.jpg,KWCHVgSMChARFpX0oiFeLw==,GB,,1522932228
166836004,166854920,2018-04-05 12:48:22,">implying it's worth saving
just ride out the storm desu, this silly stuff is never going happen because none of you will ever do anything besides shitpost here
captain goes down with the ship",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1522932502
166836004,166855085,2018-04-05 12:50:01,">>166854920
You have no idea what a storm looks like yet, anon. Pic related.
We need to at least start building a vanguard and making an impression on public opinion.",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1522932601
167913384,167913384,2018-04-13 02:54:48,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
>What is Vanguardism?
If you’re still holding out for a leader, or a happening, or something that’ll take the burden of saving our nations off your own shoulders, then this is general is a must-read.
There is a time coming when the damage done to western civilisation will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse. And make no mistake, this time is coming soon.
So, should we just assume that people will see the light? That when the social order finally collapses, they’ll see what a fraud it was and the damage that a fractured society is doing and flock to us?
No. Because there is no “us” at the moment. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities outside of those where we keep our opinions to ourselves. When the collapse comes, it’s our enemies who are able to take advantage of the panicking masses, not us. And whilst we may, slowly, be swaying ublic opinion, while people are still afraid to say it out loud NOW, that’s not going to help us when our enemies don’t even have to pretend to accept our right to speech.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers. We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins. Most importantly, we need to start banding together, so we don’t have to face this task alone and we can start building networks.
We need to become the Vanguard.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,SigelRound.png,w7DX3WwHvnUbvJRM/rO1zg==,GB,,1523588088
167913384,167913519,2018-04-13 02:56:52,">”start bulding networks, goy, come together so we know who you are”
This isn’t a national, or international, movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down. Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, trying to improve themselves and become respected members of society.
Even if they tried to run a story on it, or pass laws against it, they’d be shooting themselves in the foot in terms of public perception. Our strength over the last couple of years has been proving that they are lying about certain issues by forcing them to reveal their bias- how will people react when well- known, well-liked members of their community with reasonable ideas are suddenly turned on by the press?
>So what’s the plan?
Not in big numbers or under one group. In fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And start teaching the new group everything you've learned.
Start volunteering. Start attending local events and getting involved in local campaigns. become known faces in your local community. And when the new group is better off and in their own routine, let the cycle start again.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523588212
167913384,167913551,2018-04-13 02:57:24,">>167913519
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates). Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.
>Immediate goals
./soc/ colonies/ Gab accounts to organise & finalise the meetups
./SIG/pills, Links to useful material and PDFS of recommended reading for future threads
.A more permanent base for online Vanguard discussion and material storage",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523588244
167913384,167913612,2018-04-13 02:58:21,"I already go to the gym and hike with redpilled whites every now and then. It's fun, good stuff. We are having a bonfire this sunday, looking forward to it.",,Anonymous,1510742023438.jpg,I8wjF+VSfvf1IM0gjBTb/A==,US,,1523588301
167913384,167913843,2018-04-13 03:01:18,bump,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1523588478
167913384,167914346,2018-04-13 03:08:25,"Shameless self-bump
Also, a related redpill",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1523588905
167913384,167914500,2018-04-13 03:10:37,"Have a bump, fellow brit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523589037
167913384,167915007,2018-04-13 03:18:23,Bumping,,Anonymous,vegan.png,fYOxLmSyWzP3AxWixT+JdQ==,AU,,1523589503
167913384,167915212,2018-04-13 03:21:33,"bump
sounds like a good idea to start with",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523589693
167913384,167915306,2018-04-13 03:23:22,Self improvement redpill,,Anonymous,No Fap.png,QIFuT07cmEKKz2QFRxjj7g==,GB,,1523589802
167913384,167915393,2018-04-13 03:24:32,Have a bump,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523589872
167913384,167915632,2018-04-13 03:28:13,">>167913519
tips for starting/joining a group of 5?",,Anonymous,1475720977109.png,SEiKbf+BGqbHYx8pyh7Qzg==,US,,1523590093
167913384,167915738,2018-04-13 03:29:48,">>167913384
>tldr 
>the movement",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523590188
167913384,167915884,2018-04-13 03:32:06,">>167915632
We need to start making /soc/ colonies, or finding offsite platforms specifically for finding others to meet up with.
>>167915738
Would it help if i added colourful pictures, or made the words rhyme next time?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523590326
167913384,167915930,2018-04-13 03:32:45,Bump,,Anonymous,hailmosley.jpg,Qs1LqUuCAa6W53ro/SfQYg==,NZ,,1523590365
167913384,167915948,2018-04-13 03:33:02,">>167913384
Generation Identity",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523590382
167913384,167916151,2018-04-13 03:36:13,">>167915948
GI is more of a pressure group, and it censors certain ideas.
This is more focussed on community building and becoming better aquainted with, and well-spoken in, *all* your principles.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523590573
167913384,167916218,2018-04-13 03:37:20,true I'm down for social gatherings,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523590640
167913384,167916287,2018-04-13 03:38:28,">>167915884
keep in mind lefty honeypots",,Anonymous,1507074846641.png,unwXnn3FvQVo8OyFpzC+Vw==,,,1523590708
167913384,167916289,2018-04-13 03:38:30,All I'm missing is anyone around me willing to participate in this,,Anonymous,,,RS,,1523590710
167913384,167916365,2018-04-13 03:39:34,">>167916289
Seems like everyone here is in this position and we all found each other on /pol/.",,Anonymous,pol is strange.png,mnImEiSc5qmp5owWZ5d0cQ==,AU,,1523590774
167913384,167916592,2018-04-13 03:43:23,">>167916287
What are they going to do, have us arrested for an illegal book club?
>>167916289
In Serbia?!
Call me out if i'm wrong, but I wouldn't think Serbia would have too much trouble forming local nationalist clubs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523591003
167913384,167916729,2018-04-13 03:45:41,">>167916592
Yes.",,Anonymous,1498172270367.jpg,Qw/LijRVs/AzKkLUfAUBlA==,,,1523591141
167913384,167916862,2018-04-13 03:47:58,">>167916365
I really do love this as terrifying as it is. The worst place on the Internet that was famous for being a beacon for the worst people in the world has now become a haven for God, family, tradition, and nation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523591278
167913384,167916915,2018-04-13 03:48:56,">>167916729
Ah.
Forgot about Germany.
How has AfD mananged to get so far, then? Surely there's some sort of legal definition we can play in the margins of in their case?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523591336
167913384,167917440,2018-04-13 03:57:44,">>167916592
You'd be wrong anon.
Nationalistic times were 90s. And well.. that turned out the way it did..
Our Generation Identety movement are basically fascist from what I can see. They like the Golden Dawn and Cassapound Italia, but they only operate in Belgrade nothing in the city where I live.
>>167916365
Truly we live in the end times.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1523591864
167913384,167917883,2018-04-13 04:05:20,">>167916151
True, but it’s a good network",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523592320
167913384,167918041,2018-04-13 04:07:45,">>167916287
>>167915306
>>167913384
I like this and am cautious for the same reason : its very non-specific.
I have a few questions concerning ideology/dogma of Vanguardism:
- No end goal except Self Improvement (of white (men)) ?
- I'm economically (moderate) lefty, a Classical Liberal (as in fuck Communautarism /Authoritarians ) but a Civic Nationalist. Do I qualify?
I have more questions.
But simply answering what redpills are essential, like for example I'm not unironically a antisemite.
So jews redpills unironically part of the philosophy would be a no-no for me.
I'm interested. 
Other froggy anons here?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1523592465
167913384,167918173,2018-04-13 04:09:43,">>167916862
Because those are now demonised values.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523592583
167913384,167918469,2018-04-13 04:14:42,"When do we step out from the shadows? Supressing our power levels is damaging to the psyche, it also makes our opinions look less common than we are. Spoiler: The working class are largely pro-white. I understand the risk of alienation or losing your job, but the state of being a proud nationalist = racist hate speech is absurd. 
I've mostly got my life in order, I'm just concerned that the average bong hasn't at all. Just trying to find some light in the blackpill senpai.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523592882
167913384,167918755,2018-04-13 04:19:10,">>167915632
Start with bath houses. Move on to the washrooms at rest stops and bushes behind.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523593150
167913384,167918940,2018-04-13 04:22:08,">>167918041
Vanguardism is as the name implies, building a vanguard for nationalism by strengthening ourselves- physically through training, mentally through the exploration of the underlying philosophy of right-wing thought, and socially.
It's not that civicucks couldn't get something out of it, just that you propbably wouldn't want too.
>>167918469
That's what this i about, anon. Helping those in our community who have their ideas straight to get their lives in order, Improve our standing in our community without compromising our ideals, learn how to deabte them better and share that knowledge.
Start rebuilding those bonds that we're constantly talking about, the ones that modern, fractured society has taken from us.
No point taking the blackpill yet, anon. The fight hasn't even started.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523593328
167913384,167919722,2018-04-13 04:34:57,Shameless self-bump,,Anonymous,1523112436196.jpg,Ck/8YR80SO/EJHHJ3aYRJg==,GB,,1523594097
167913384,167919840,2018-04-13 04:37:06,interesting desu lads. always been attracted to Mosley myself.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523594226
167913384,167920068,2018-04-13 04:40:55,"have a bump britbro, it's a shame a productive thread like this doesn't get a lot of traffic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523594455
167913384,167920247,2018-04-13 04:43:46,">>167920068
Thanks. I've tried advertising in other related generals & threads, but i guess it's just what i get for starting a thread on a friday morning.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523594626
167913384,167920570,2018-04-13 04:49:29,Is this the way of men by jack donovan,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523594969
167913384,167920577,2018-04-13 04:49:32,a bump for are Os,,Anonymous,areos.jpg,cm7kdF30JYJDkw+UpDYQtw==,GB,,1523594972
167913384,167920860,2018-04-13 04:54:48,">>167920247
Try making it a daily thread, or a continious one. The overall idea is great, I think that it has a potential. But I do think that groups of 5 are a bit small. I understand that keeping it small enough is a good thing, but 5 seems a bit too small.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1523595288
167913384,167920921,2018-04-13 04:55:56,">>167918940
It's what I wanted to know.
France is Civic Nationalist, from right wing to left wing until you go past the socialist and hit the commie territory.
If you just take out ""Muh White Genes"" argument away from the equation, France is pretty based with republican values.
>Git Rich
>Freedom first, then equality (of opportunity) and then Fraternity (Liberté Égalité Fraternité)
>Don't be a cunt and respect other peoples' freedoms.
>If you want to be respected, and be ""french"" you got to embrace our culture, our rules, our secularism, out valued .... meaning we actually educate niggers and muzzies.
So we're more aligned than you think.
Also am currently doing some Self Improvement in my life.
I do have easy life, good looking so easy gf, well off, but that made me become a sloth.
I would love to join this, as you said I do think I would get something out of it",,Civicuck,,,FR,,1523595356
167913384,167920995,2018-04-13 04:57:01,">>167915884
It would help you enormously to have a short, simple marketable message. You won't get ten minutes to advocate your views to the average normie and the media will be describing you as far right + if you're very lucky a couple more words.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523595421
167913384,167921078,2018-04-13 04:58:25,"I want this to succeed and intend on playing devils advocate to assist.
>>167920860
>implying there are /pol/acks with more than 4 friends.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523595505
167913384,167921088,2018-04-13 04:58:32,">>167913384
you sound autistic as fuck, piss off.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1523595512
167913384,167921266,2018-04-13 05:01:12,Where do you propose people find each other in groups of 5 in the first place?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523595672
167913384,167921303,2018-04-13 05:01:50,">>167921266
Like minded people in groups of 5, that should read.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523595710
167913384,167921372,2018-04-13 05:03:04,">>167920921
>If you just take the ""Muh White Genes"" argument away from the equation
Well, the good news is if France is as far gone as you make it out to be, it shouldn't be too much trouble finding another group with those values.
>>167920995
We're not advertising this to normies, anon, this is /pol/. How we debate this with normies is part of what we're forming to discuss. And the media can call us whatever they like, by the time we're big enough for them to care we'll be big enough for our communities to know better.
>>167921088
'K.
>>167921266
/soc/ colonies for general details, Gab accounts for final details, maybe another site if we can find a more permanent base for vanguardism then daily threads.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523595784
167913384,167921459,2018-04-13 05:04:50,">>167921078
Well ok fair point, but not all of who do this have to be /pol/acks. And not all people with whom you would do these things have to be your friends. Having too many friends isn't a sign of a strong character.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1523595890
167913384,167921599,2018-04-13 05:07:23,">>167918940
>>167920921
Additionnaly, I come here to confront opinions to my view.
I like redpills, but pick and chose depending on if science agress, or at least doesn't directly contradict.
I'm just not religious
*tips fedora*
And agree witj Keynesians on economics. A bit of wealth redistribution (futurology unanimously predicts the need for a universal income in next decade). So I like Joseph Stiglitz, among others.
But I can be right wing on some cultural topics.
I want to buy, own and shoot a gun.
At a range or hunting.
I want to stop the regressive left degeneracy.
I just don't believe in the jew conspiracy.
Is this enough to be accepted?
If so, I shall namefag as Civicuck future Vanguard General threads. Watchout for my flag.",,Civicuck,,,FR,,1523596043
167913384,167921643,2018-04-13 05:08:10,">>167921372
>how big were the group in Scotland before they got shoah'd for picking up rubbish?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523596090
167913384,167921885,2018-04-13 05:12:38,">>167921266
School, work, gym, hiking, hunting, church, gun range, gun stores (knife stores?). It's about establishing quality friendships then setting purpose to them. 
>>167913384
I like this. Good post OP. On an unrelated note, this is how effective ""terrorist cells"" organize. It's highly efficient and difficult to detect/subvert.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523596358
167913384,167921994,2018-04-13 05:14:21,">>167920860
I'm already hoping to keep this up as a daily general. Possibly even making a astebin so others can post it if it gets big enough.
And 5 is a bit small, but it's how movements like this form effectively with the least chance of subversion and infiltration in the early years.
>>167921599
Like I say. If France is as far gone as you say, shouldn't be a problem finding a group.
And namefag all you like, it'll make it easier to figure out which ID to filter.
>>167921643
You mean Scottish Dawn?
No clue, but then i don't know what their MO was either.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523596461
167913384,167922066,2018-04-13 05:15:28,">>167921266
Most likely through ""third place"" hobbies, clubs, and events. Think of a sport you like and find a local club or event. Or join something like the elks, lions, or eagles club. Or volunteer for a non-cucked charity. Have a flee market stall and chat up the other regulars or even the shoppers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523596528
167913384,167922129,2018-04-13 05:16:36,">>167921994
Scottish Dawn had IIRC an unfortunate name and were slightly larger than the ""cell"" idea you seem to be suggesting.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523596596
167913384,167922573,2018-04-13 05:24:06,">>167921372
Read the second part of my response please.
I made another comment:
>>167921599
Its like saying ""black people can't be right wing"". Please, you are ignorant if you think that. Niggers and black pzople aren't the same.
You have identity politics in the USA.
Please understand that the proportion of white nationalists in France is negligable.
Too hard for me to find 4 nat-soc to read Mein Kampf with.
Especially since a white nationalist in my country has as many chances to being an illeterate peasant, as USA negroes.
See, I'm fine with joining a circle of right wingers for self imprpvement.
I'm fine with racist cunts, I have no beef.
I'm on this board, and in this thread, asking for help
You bong (im also brit btw. Bi-national, that's why I can make complex sentences here.), you are having a hard time starting you movement.
I would advise you accept help from an ally.
You said yourself that it's mostly self improvement.
I'm all for the proliferation of the white race. But also for personnal freedom so I don't mind interracial relationships.
But I'm against degeneracy.
Against letting kids do hormonal transitions anf cutting dicks off before falling into depression and an hero.
I was even going to offer help with your thread.
I could do qome photoshop/graphic design to help out with this VG General.
If you can calm your tits with the inuslts for 5 mintes, Edward.",,Civicuck,,,FR,,1523597046
167913384,167922696,2018-04-13 05:26:21,"Bump for interest. 
>>167921994
Please do it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523597181
167913384,167922841,2018-04-13 05:29:00,I propose ignoring the French concern trolling faggot.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523597340
167913384,167922873,2018-04-13 05:29:33,">>167922129
Yeah. Plus, they were more of a street activist group, getting behind megaphones and shouting their opinions rather then actually putting their ideology into practise.
This is about helping our people, making ourselves respected in the community and understanding the philosophical basis of our arguments.
Unless the government is suddenly in the business of banning social groups with an open political bent, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
>>167922696
I will be. Just don't forget to filter the French cuck if you come into future threads.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523597373
167913384,167922958,2018-04-13 05:31:17,">>167922873
I just fear (((them))) to much to be too involved. Maybe if circumstances change...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523597477
167913384,167923148,2018-04-13 05:34:39,">>167922958
Why, though?
It's a small group in an unorgansied network, doing nothing but self-improvement and community service. They won't go after you specifically, and even if (((they))) go after the movement it'll be when we're established enough that our communities will be able to see through what they're saying.
It's this fear we need to get over, anon. We shouldn't be afraid when we're doing nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523597679
167913384,167923346,2018-04-13 05:37:41,">>167913384
I love you, Dad.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523597861
167913384,167923406,2018-04-13 05:38:34,">>167923148
I'm not sure where you live, but if tried something in my area with a small group, the equality zombies would come out in force. Our government would crush us just like they crushed NA.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523597914
167913384,167923686,2018-04-13 05:42:48,">>167923406
That's why we organise in small groups of 5 and build ourselves up. And why we're not organising under a single group. To ban the movement entirely, the government would have to introduce legislation against discussion groups, and that would affect everyone.
It's only once we're in a stable local position that we start ""activism"". And even that's just attending local events like council meetings & protests and either getting involved or talking to people.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523598168
167913384,167924045,2018-04-13 05:49:00,">>167916915
>thinking the afd is a hope
Mate have you ever seen the list of parties banned by Germany since the 50's? It's long mate",,Anonymous,image.jpg,UdxqsUhj6sZa4Ux7a/BCiA==,FR,,1523598540
167913384,167924125,2018-04-13 05:50:28,"Bump. 
Do you Britanons believe most of the pakis and niggers will fuck off from the Isles when the crash happens?",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1523598628
167913384,167924850,2018-04-13 06:02:42,">>167924125
Yes. The problem is the solution: these parasites will not stay when the shit hits the fan. Those that do will be irrelevant, because they'll be bred out or killed in the chaos.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523599362
167913384,167924938,2018-04-13 06:03:54,">>167924125
Hard to tell.
The situation in Britain is odd- we're only just beginning to move past the class system, which has kind of why civicuckery is so prevalent (the already-fractured and underfunded working class communities tend to see less difference between themselves and a carribbean guy then the super rich, and considering this is the home of (((international finance))) i don't blame them, but it does make the truth an uphill struggle). Depending on how long they've been here, they may actually genuinely feel British and get offended at the suggestion otherwise.
But it'll be hard to tell without knowing what'll happen once the gibs dry up & if a genuine national identity can reassert itself.
I'd say the middle classes of the more recent generations would, though. And that's a decent majority of them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523599434
167913384,167925247,2018-04-13 06:08:35,">>167918041
>>167918041
>- I'm economically (moderate) lefty, a Classical Liberal (as in fuck Communautarism /Authoritarians ) but a Civic Nationalist.
>fuck Communautarism /Authoritarians
>>>>I AM A [...] CIVIC NATIONALIST
>uses the word antisemite unironically 
Well that hurts to read, I want to save you, but you almost deserve it, my only regret is that you will drag me down with you
Have a few redpills 
>everybody is incredibly ignorant, we're all born this way
>a descent amount of knowledge, or informations to barely function in the larger scale of society can not be atrained by a single individual, and is only held by groups, or tight communities
>the most important thing in power relation between groups is cohesion, and their organization, both are an absolute necessity to compete 
>power is either held by networks of connection, or a clear command structure
>about the jq, you sound incredibly ignorant on it, even pol is pretty blue polled as far as that goes. All bankers are racially supremacists zionists, there is no exception in the west, the very powerful people you need to worry about are: the descendants of royalty, wealthy by their inheritance- the people who made fortune through oil- the highest members of the social order in China- the oligarchs who looted the Soviet Union at its fall- the Jewish bankers- the Jewish entertainment Giants 
Your ignorance is pretty bone chilling, read some history
Do you read books? Here's a pretty important one, by the sole founding father of the European Union, dear mr kalergi ""practical idealism"", it Will clear things up, if you wonder why you have to deal with Jamal and abdelkader",,Anonymous,image.jpg,iRSM9CHSExclUz3SZliMeA==,FR,,1523599715
167913384,167926125,2018-04-13 06:23:00,">>167913384
love this Bowden shit
fascist forehead man will return to us some day",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523600580
167913384,167927025,2018-04-13 06:38:04,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523601484
167913384,167927080,2018-04-13 06:39:06,">>167913384
Hello brits I am here to remind you of the Amerimutt defelection
Why are Americans constantly trying to turn Europe and the world into the 30-52% face? Every NGO funds migrants, every American foreign policy in Europe and all American interests are to create multiracial market 'democracies'. That is all they've done in Europe for the past 70 years, promote multiculturalism, markets, consumerism, and 'democracy'.
Let me enlighten you. 
https://youtu.be/r4DDv1rtdVY [Open] 
This video is from 1943. Listen to the narrator. There was no great, secret conspiracy. Everything was done in the open. They were going to smash the Old World and supplant it with a unipolar world order with America as the master and everyone its slaves. This is what Americans dreamed, and planned and made happen.
Of course, Americans didn’t expect to be supplanted by Jews and other subhuman minorities, but ultimately they didn’t care because Americans believe anyone can be an American so it’s meaningless who comprises America as long as America swallows up the whole world
America was very eager to destabilise and bomb North African and ME countries and then shill for the refugees and economic migrants they themselves had created.
America and it’s people deserve nothing but contempt, and don’t let them off the hook by saying they good bois who dindu nuffin. They knowingly and willingly set up the world to be destroyed on the altar of progressive ideologies and persist to this day in sacrificing everything in the name of universal liberalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1523601546
167913384,167927116,2018-04-13 06:39:44,">>167927080
>Having a Black president is OK
>Having 40 million blacks is OK
>Having 55 million hispanics is OK
>Having 30 million illegals is OK
>Being 56% white is OK
>Inventing feminism and SJW´s is OK
>40 million interracial marriages is OK
>putting blacks on your money is OK
>inventing affirmative action is OK
>imposing federal quotas for employment of non-whites is OK
>giving $3+ billion per year to Israel is OK
>fighting wars to suit the Saudis and Israelis is OK
>losing wars repeatedly to Third World countries is OK
>having America ruled by liberals for 16 of the last 24 years is OK
>the fact that Hillary Clinton got a massive majority of votes is OK
>banning the American flag from schools because it upsets Mexican illegals is OK
>cops getting machine gunned in the streets by Black Lives Matter activists is OK
>losing control of entire cities to BLM rioters is OK
>making it a crime to misgender someone is OK
>making it legal to give other people AIDS is OK
>jailing someone for 15 years for putting bacon in a mosque is OK
>destroying historic monuments because they hurt niggers' feeling is OK
>America is based as fuck and totally not cucked
Let us all appreciate that while us Ahmeds in countries like Sweden, Germany, UK and France are all ""cucked"", done for and should ""be nuked"" and ""genocided"". At least we still have America, the great uncucked white haven of conservatism, strict immigration laws and common sense.
Yes, lets appreciate and ponder on that for a while.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523601584
167913384,167927995,2018-04-13 06:53:35,">>167925247
Well, I agree with a lot of what you said, brother.
I don't mind the language or the outright dismissal of my views. It's part of the game
>about power structures, group
I agree
>So you even reas books
Yes. We just might not read the same books my niggie. I read Tom Clancy, Tolkien, Isaac Asimov, George Orwell, Terry Pratchet and more generally the genres of Science Fiction and Fantasy, mostly. So usually fiction novels.
I fucking hate reading Emile Zola for example. Bores me and annoys the fuck out of me.
>All bankers are zionists
First off, most bankers are jews. It's been this way since in Europe the Jews were not allowed to do most of honest jobs, anything crafting.
Jews didnt chose banking, they did it because it was the only legal and good paying job. Are a historically ignorant cunt???
""Le travail manuel est interdit au juifs"" -Wikipedia et aussi le cours d'histoire de primaire, mon gars. C'est connu, on est pas tous incultes comme ici.
So you should also maybe read some history, elsewhere than Nat-Soc General and Redpill 4chan threads bro.
Don't talk down to me like a cunt, when you say outrageous stuff, that a real historian would school you for.
Zionist is alsp a contentious term than has vague meanikg since the creation of israel. Traditional Zionism is deaed, because the statr of Israel was created (and expanded) after WWII.
So you're referring to Neo-Zionists or Jewish Supremacist would be an ever better term, just an opinion.
Lastly, let's stop the exchange of blows here.
Yes, I would be interesting in being part of a group, why not with you, to meet up, discuss and you can redpill me if you feel like it.
I can try and not ""bring you down"", future sensei.
As long as you're not the actual stereotype of the overweight facist basement dweller, I could consider being friends with someone like you, Jean-Pierre.",,Civicuck,1523546483148.png,ZXAE+OX8c2BxuzR7PYgkyg==,FR,,1523602415
167913384,167928258,2018-04-13 06:57:37,">>167923148
>>167922958
new guy in ocean county NJ. Think we cn use some e celebs for exposure? Maybe one of you should start a channel on bitchute as a primary and youtube as a secondary to share information
What do you all think about Mark Passio? He wants government to be ended because he says that any and all forms of government are slavery. Its a shame because we would be fucking invaded if we disbanded the military.",,Anonymous,2db81418f930a01eafe1e84fae8900fe.jpg,PXFs9UE8Sqcd63bN4O5QhA==,US,,1523602657
167913384,167928636,2018-04-13 07:02:58,">>167927116
I saw you in the Brit hate thread this morning, Sven, you can drop the memeflag. You don't need it, anyway, you're in good company here.
>>167928258
Sounds like he took a wrong turning on the Libertarian to EthNat highway. Never go full AnCap.
And exposure isn't really what we're looking for; we just want to start building the communities that we're going to need, and that means starting small.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523602978
167913384,167929102,2018-04-13 07:09:42,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523603382
167913384,167930666,2018-04-13 07:33:43,">>167928636
hes not ancap. He says that money in all forms are holding humanity back and keeping us under mind control.
My view is that if money was erased from the equation than humans can unleash their labor and build as much or as little as they want. 
Admit it, money is the dominant religion on earth and its controlled by Jews.
You need to watch this seminar if you dont know his work
https://youtu.be/ASUHN3gNxWo
https://youtu.be/KH4m7OpukSg",,Anonymous,abandonment issues.jpg,jSkbQOuTXKVpFMOgEokD9g==,US,,1523604823
167913384,167931143,2018-04-13 07:41:37,">>167930666
Money is the ""dominant religion"" because actual religions have been steadily clamped down on. Money has been used as an exchange for goods and services for almost as long as civilisation has existed, in countries where jews weren't even allowed to step foot in for centuries at a time, because it's more efficient and effective than the barter system.
There's a difference between taking back control of our own system and brning it to the ground because some Anarcho-whateverist promised you that we'll maintain law & order simply because of humanity's innate goodness or some other bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523605297
167913384,167931585,2018-04-13 07:48:47,">>167927995
>Don't talk down to me like a cunt
>>
What I meant by Zionist is certainly not simply the desire of Jewish diaspora to establish a state, and have their own land, but instead the supremacist view many, especially among the most powerful, hold
A propos des livers, je ne parlais que des textes rares, importants, ceux qui servent comme fondation de grands mouvements sociaux, ou ceux qui en témoignent et servent de preuve, pas ceux destinés à la détente 
A propos des banquiers, ce que tu dis n'est pas correct
La particularité distinctive principale des communautés juives, bien que moins forte aujourd'hui, est leur immense cohésion ils vivent une existence très solidaire, et leur vie est axée autour d'un grand nombre d'activités collectives qui permettent un incroyable échange d'informations, mais également une similarité de pensée
Dans le livre que j'ai cité, l'auteur va un pas plus loin et admet un élément racial, sa vision étant que les communautés se reproduisant entre elles autant dans tous leurs individus des caractéristiques très similaire, en particulier de comportement, et voit les juifs urbains comme la race noble, qui s'élève au sommet
Leur domination de certains secteurs importants, très localisée, net pas un hazard, et a été un effort grès intentionnel de la part de leur communautés
>As long as you're not the actual stereotype of the overweight facist basement dweller
lol no",,Anonymous,image.jpg,cCTaFlVWAsLrQaR0m30ZvA==,FR,,1523605727
167913384,167931756,2018-04-13 07:51:16,Reminder that Jonathan Bowden was a paedophile.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523605876
167913384,167931980,2018-04-13 07:54:39,">>167931143
actually thats the scheme
>Money has been used as an exchange for goods and services for almost as long as civilisation has existed,
Time and attention is the true money. 
money
mon ey
one eye",,Anonymous,144c5a02c66f831906afdd54265ceedf.jpg,7BPyh4T0haC3L/f/57hVXA==,US,,1523606079
167913384,167932094,2018-04-13 07:56:19,">>167931143
Spirituality has been supressed. Religion is mind control. Watch the natural law seminar. Just do it .",,Anonymous,797499daacfdfa6b0aec7063fb2acfa4--spiritual-life-spiritual-quotes.jpg,LzeZvIv7duCFn0cjGx/gRg==,US,,1523606179
167913384,167932160,2018-04-13 07:57:12,">>167931756
Reminder that you raped and killed a hooker behind an Arby's in 1982 unless you can back up that statement, twat.
>>167931980
>>167932094
>>>/x/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523606232
167913384,167932317,2018-04-13 07:59:35,">>167932160
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/514660.stm",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523606375
167913384,167932447,2018-04-13 08:01:30,">>167932160
you are full of shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523606490
167913384,167932592,2018-04-13 08:03:44,">>167932447
Yes, anon, *I'm* full of shit.
Tell me more about how money is just a corruption of ""one eye"" and the idea of a demand economy i a shceme envisioned to enslave you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523606624
167913384,167932933,2018-04-13 08:08:38,">>167932592
i shared his work for you to watch. Its up to you to see it yourself.
https://youtu.be/ASUHN3gNxWo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523606918
167913384,167933056,2018-04-13 08:10:23,">>167932317
Nice try, but
1. Archives on the BBC show up in the modern format,
2. Jon Bowden was not a teacher, and
3.there's no other reference to it other then that page, despite the fact a story like that of a man like Bowden would have been beaten to death by the media.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523607023
167913384,167933114,2018-04-13 08:11:10,">>167913384
>>167913551
>>167913519
Damn, this is good.",,Anonymous,56747563734152352346457485678.jpg,O3Dav29KALjkT3TpBtu2LA==,,,1523607070
167913384,167933254,2018-04-13 08:13:21,">>167913384
Rate this dressing guide.
Is it good or kys tier?
what will you recommend instead",,Anonymous,1523565824479.jpg,wvkqssqgSIKSaLJVwe4P4Q==,,,1523607201
167913384,167933305,2018-04-13 08:13:55,">>167913384
>hay guiz let's form a team
>look my body is ready
>i have logo
>big dreams of lockstep marching
just fucking kill yourself you pathetic fucking shill
>vagina general
yeah you suck the big bamboo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523607235
167913384,167933388,2018-04-13 08:15:20,">>167932933
yeah, a scientologist told me the same thing about the copy of dianetics he gave me this morning. You can feel as superior as you like when i tell you i've got better things to do then watch kemet-tier conspiracy economics, doesn't change the fact i'm not watching this shit.
>inb4 hurr durr ad hominem",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523607320
167913384,167937059,2018-04-13 16:38:44,">>167913384
Bump",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1523637524
167913384,167940744,2018-04-13 17:36:09,"Oh, posts are working again? Awesome.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523640969
167913384,167941374,2018-04-13 17:46:28,"I don't meet the criteria to join, but will think of ways to support. Godspeed, anons",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523641588
167913384,167941809,2018-04-13 17:53:17,">>167913384
I am national socialist, I always try to be as friendly as I can be to get more people to be interested in the ideology.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523641997
167913384,167941902,2018-04-13 17:54:26,">>167913612
this is the right way",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523642066
167913384,167942372,2018-04-13 18:01:56,">>167913384
any group you form will ultimately be infiltrated by glow in the dark niggers, and your cause will fall into disarray",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523642516
167913384,167942427,2018-04-13 18:02:47,">>167942372
Which is why it's not a single group.
Try reading the posts.
>>167913519
>>167913551",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523642567
167913384,167942606,2018-04-13 18:05:34,">>167942427
>leaderless movement
not happening",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523642734
167913384,167942693,2018-04-13 18:06:45,">>167942606
So in your world, there's just no way to win. Got it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523642805
167913384,167943041,2018-04-13 18:12:45,">>167913384
Two questions: 1. How white do you have to be to join. 2. Is there a religious component that is compulsory or are agnostic or atheist welcome?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523643165
167913384,167943254,2018-04-13 18:16:37,">>167942372
The group will have no central control... the only unifying aspect is a credo of some type. Once the credo is set, everyone pushes off alone into the vast dark ocean of emptiness as singular torches. Almost like apostles",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523643397
167913384,167943399,2018-04-13 18:19:07,">>167943041
As long as you're a nationalist, doesn't matter if you're Christian, atheist, even LARPagan.
The vanguard is about rebuilding the nation, though, so i'd say at least 3 grandparents.
Of course, we don't mind other races having their own vanguards to improve their own nations.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523643547
167913384,167943712,2018-04-13 18:23:48,I ain't reading all this shit gimme the tl;dr,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523643828
167913384,167943831,2018-04-13 18:25:17,">>167913384
I played a fuck ton of rome tw in middle school and drew a load of their factions flags on my school work now I know I was channelling Mosley magic without realising it",,Anonymous,rome-_total_war_patch-299435-1256715107.jpg,pgP60Tq+cI6Aq6Q2rmDQAQ==,GB,,1523643917
167913384,167943925,2018-04-13 18:26:32,">>167943712
Nationalists from up locally in separate groups of 5, first to improve themselves and then to start being providers for their community.
Either we keep expanding from that base, or a happening happens and we're in a good position to start capitalising.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523643992
167913384,167944043,2018-04-13 18:27:52,">>167943399
Sounds good. I was born in the USA but my parents are 100% Lebanese Christian. I’m 100% for a white ethnostate but this movement is not for me since I’m ethnically disqualified. Godspeed and I hope you succeed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523644072
167913384,167944209,2018-04-13 18:29:52,">>167943925
form*
>>167943831
Guard that flame, brother.
>>167944043
No problem. And nothing personal, Lebanese are based. I hope things go well for you & yours going forward.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523644192
167913384,167944411,2018-04-13 18:37:58,">>167944209
Thanks for the kind words. I’m thinking of something very similar but for Lebanese Christians and this is a great inspiration.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523644678
167913384,167944647,2018-04-13 18:39:51,">>167913384
Been a long time since pol has had a good idea
Have a bump lad",,Anonymous,image%3A100_eightbit2.jpg,LUv8M5JTqJ5SmCIy/vm5AQ==,US,,1523644791
167913384,167945030,2018-04-13 18:43:58,">>167913519
Unironically: go camping with a few bros, spend half the day boxing and wrestling in the woods, spend the evening reading mythology and arguing politics around the fire. Bring in wives or gfs the next night and fuck off to your own tents.
Two night trip, one with women and one without, works wonders for the soul.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523645038
167913384,167945803,2018-04-13 18:52:21,">>167945030
Would add that certain kinds of volunterr work are highly visible, universally acclaimed, and build opposition to degeneracy.
Painting over graffiti is the best. Get a few like minded men to volunteer to do that once a week, and a hundred or so people will see you directly combat degeneracy. Go armed; I have been confronted several times by hoods for this. They are cowards but they are dangerous in groups.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523645541
167913384,167945995,2018-04-13 18:54:08,">>167922841
This shit here",,Anonymous,C368244D-0CF2-4358-9B5B-0F6175D11486.jpg,Kbc4Tyq237kaw+70CpNPkw==,US,,1523645648
167913384,167946057,2018-04-13 18:54:44,">>167913384
I'm socially inept due to long term isolation so good luck is all I can offer.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523645684
167913384,167946066,2018-04-13 18:54:50,">>167913384
I'd probably think about infiltrating the Conservative Party at local branch level. I fully accept all its many horrible faults but its old membership base is dying off. Be the next generation.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523645690
167913384,167946309,2018-04-13 18:57:08,sounds good but how does an autist find 4 other autists?,,Anonymous,Vanguard.png,Oj29jio8u+1GfrEzH3m3wA==,GB,,1523645828
167913384,167946752,2018-04-13 19:00:55,">>167913384
I'm a degenerate thats been reforming for a year or two now and I cut off my entire friend group as I realised they were scum. I'd get involved if I had any way to make contact with people in this labour stronghold.",,Anonymous,beady brigade.jpg,vKQCOk0QcU/TUhAZDfltdA==,GB,,1523646055
167913384,167946977,2018-04-13 19:02:51,">>167945803
>Painting over graffiti
horrible idea , will elevate your heart pressure",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1523646171
167913384,167947165,2018-04-13 19:04:33,">>167913384
Bump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523646273
168020859,168020859,2018-04-14 01:46:18,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
>What is Vanguardism?
If you’re still holding out for a leader, or a happening, or something that’ll take the burden of saving our nations off your own shoulders, then this is general is a must-read.
There is a time coming when the damage done to western civilisation will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse. And make no mistake, this time is coming soon.
So, should we just assume that people will see the light? That when the social order finally collapses, they’ll see what a fraud it was and the damage that a fractured society is doing and flock to us?
No.
Because there is no “us” at the moment. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities except as individuals keeping their opinions to themselves. And while we may be swaying public opinion, if people are still afraid to say it out loud NOW, that’s not going to help us when our enemies don’t even have to pretend to accept our right to speech.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers. We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins. Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.
>”start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down. Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society. A society that's going to find it much easier to see through the lies when the truth is right beside them, answering questions.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,SigelRound.png,hR5ZhXH/2g++q/C0F0eEzg==,GB,,1523670378
168020859,168021171,2018-04-14 01:48:57,">So what’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And start teaching the new group everything you've learned.
Start volunteering. Start attending community events and getting involved in unrelated local political campaigns. become known faces in your local community. And when the new group is better off and in their own routine, let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates). Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.
>Immediate goals
./soc/ colonies/ Gab accounts to organise & finalise the meetups
./SIG/pills, Links to useful material and PDFS of recommended reading for future threads
.A more permanent base for online Vanguard discussion and material storage",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1523670537
168020859,168021348,2018-04-14 01:50:14,">>168020859
We're trying our best, dad: https://www.dominion-movement.com/news/2018/2/28/february-action-report",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1523670614
168020859,168021987,2018-04-14 01:55:15,">>168021348
I'm proud of you, son. It's more then we have at the moment.
The only problem is having one single entity, with one name, one symbol and presumerably the same set of public figures that the media can latch onto.
The Vanguard campaign is slightly more guerilla; it's designed to break apart as part of the process, and it can do so at any time for any reason; and because the only thing the groups share in common is an online forum acting as a help network, they can't all be banned for the actions of one, or without wide-reaching legislation that'll step on too many other unrelated group's toes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523670915
168020859,168022363,2018-04-14 01:58:24,Shameless self-bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523671104
168020859,168022645,2018-04-14 02:00:56,">>168021987
If/when the home islands turn to shit, many people in the old colonies will come to your aid. Things in NZ aren't nearly as politically polarized as us or uk so for now we can afford to do a single United movements",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1523671256
168020859,168023038,2018-04-14 02:04:37,I hope by vanguardism you mean reading Siege and abandoning the system entirely.,,Anonymous,,,,,1523671477
168020859,168023714,2018-04-14 02:10:30,">>168023038
No, and that's a stale meme. Although i would reccomend people actually read SIEGE.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523671830
168020859,168024757,2018-04-14 02:19:12,">>168020859
I'll give you a bump because you're at least trying to do something unlike the rest of this board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523672352
168020859,168024812,2018-04-14 02:19:40,The English are great,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523672380
168020859,168025063,2018-04-14 02:22:06,">>168024757
>>168024812
Thanks anons.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523672526
168020859,168026516,2018-04-14 02:35:03,i flag threads such as this tor police review.and training purposes. enjoy the next 5 years in prison for posting hatespeech online.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523673303
168020859,168026686,2018-04-14 02:36:41,>>168026516,,Anonymous,Bigger Bait.png,mGEhrT9RrSOisjb3IKjOUA==,GB,,1523673401
168020859,168027456,2018-04-14 02:43:42,">>168020859
>>168021171
This is good to see. No larping bullshit, actual understanding of what works, what needs to be done, and a realistic view of the time and effort it will take. Too many talk the talk and never walk the walk. Too many untermensch who delude themselves into thinking they are automatically master race just for having white parents. Keep up the good work OP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523673822
168020859,168028111,2018-04-14 02:49:23,">>168026516
The absolute state of britbongistan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523674163
168020859,168028385,2018-04-14 02:51:57,">>168020859
you deserve this (you)
keep up the good work and even though your country is currently a shit hole (as are all of ours) I really hope you retake Britain from the Muslims.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523674317
168020859,168028413,2018-04-14 02:52:10,">>168020859
>>168021171
This is how you form small cell terrorist teams. The caek is a lie.",,Moarpheus,,,US,,1523674330
168020859,168028521,2018-04-14 02:53:12,Bump,,Anonymous,3C121E88-6F1B-4D04-A53C-62E7BA5A0EEE.jpg,vy/j6KNv8U8awF4QjRXAnA==,CA,,1523674392
168020859,168028920,2018-04-14 02:56:37,Bumping to show support. Sadly I doubt there are many anons around me (SC).,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523674597
168020859,168029051,2018-04-14 02:57:42,">>168021171
please post the bowden frog",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523674662
168020859,168029248,2018-04-14 02:59:23,">>168020859
Rocky Mountains reporting in. We started doing this before Vanguardism General existed, but the general mission statement fits like a glove. We have to start finding each other and developing trusting relationships in real life. You're closer to like-minded people than you think, all of you.",,Anonymous,bundleOfSneks.png,p6fMCP4qI4DEcItDTPnaVA==,US,,1523674763
168020859,168029381,2018-04-14 03:00:33,Bump in support.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523674833
168020859,168029389,2018-04-14 03:00:38,>>168026516,,Anonymous,5abdb3ac00fb3.png,T6pYolGwUbBuX6nVC1kGjg==,,,1523674838
168020859,168030069,2018-04-14 03:08:58,">>168028920
You'd be surprised. Stick around while we work on the immediate goal, anyway; once we have /soc/ colonies p & running, you may bump into a few people
>>168029051
I don't have it anon, sorry. It's just a redpill I was given in an older thread.
>>168029248
It's nice to hear about a proof of conept. Thanks for the support!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523675338
168020859,168031878,2018-04-14 03:27:00,">>168026516
Threatening someones freedom is hate speech. One day the black bag might come over your head... should think about that...",,Anonymous,cucked.jpg,toIo5hWGMMfqanoYNX7uBA==,US,,1523676420
168020859,168032047,2018-04-14 03:29:05,i'd join your cult. i just need to get my own shit together first.,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523676545
168020859,168032065,2018-04-14 03:29:18,">>168031878
He's not being serious anon, the ""I'm from X and this has just been reported"" Is practically a meme for EuroAnons at this point.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523676558
168020859,168032644,2018-04-14 03:35:59,">>168029389
But unironically a collapse isn't ever going to happen. Zimbabwe hasn't collapsed.
The whole ""just wait for collapse"" meme is gay",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523676959
168020859,168033289,2018-04-14 03:42:39,">>168032644
>Zimbabwe hasn't collapsed
only thanks to foreign aid, when the west can no longer afford to prop up the third world places like zimbabwe would descend into a complete dark age.
the modern world is so interconnected that when a few pegs get knocked out the entire system will fail, ala the great depression. so while greece can maintain some degree of stability now thanks to its neighbour's support, its now just one extra weight dragging down on everything else, and near every nation in the west is headed the way of greece. it can't maintain forever.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523677359
168020859,168034162,2018-04-14 03:52:02,">>168033289
Rome didn't even collapse in the way you're thinking. The institutions were just replaced with Germanic barbarians. It didn't collapse in a sudden race war but centuries of tribal conflict.
America won't collapse and neither will any of the other traditionally white countries, it'll just be slow death as the systems in place prevent any natural white backlash or ingroup preference that could slow it down or end it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523677922
168020859,168035780,2018-04-14 04:10:00,">>168034162
A global economic crisis appears inevitable in the not so distant future, and when that hits many things may happen. It may not be some overnight collapse into race war and dark age, but it can be seismic shifts in the political, cultural and spiritual landscape. They're all coming.",,Anonymous,IMG_20180205_141715.jpg,4PmGl2HgC9TpFuVA5yRH1Q==,AU,,1523679000
168020859,168038424,2018-04-14 04:38:28,bumping,,Anonymous,20180312_163052.png,imLwsAkv0K5Yiy9SYo0q0A==,GB,,1523680708
168020859,168039494,2018-04-14 04:50:05,">>168035780
That picture is child abuse and the woman should be bleeding from many more holes and tossed in a ditch with fucking kids.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523681405
168020859,168039564,2018-04-14 04:50:51,more like autism LMFAO,,Anonymous,,,,,1523681451
168020859,168039930,2018-04-14 04:54:28,">>168039494
It's the wrath of Tiamat.
>carleebyoga
>kali-yuga",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523681668
168020859,168040679,2018-04-14 05:02:12,">>168021171
Where would one start searching for potential camerads to form a group like that. At this time of individualism that seems like quite the challenge.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523682132
168020859,168041194,2018-04-14 05:07:41,">>168020859
Reminder we are getting raided.
>>168040311",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523682461
168020859,168041354,2018-04-14 05:09:30,">>168040679
At the moment these threads are here to build up interest. Once we've got that, i'll be looking into starting colonies on /soc & encouraging people to start making gab accounts (or some other uncucked SM account) to start co-ordinating.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523682570
168020859,168041744,2018-04-14 05:13:42,">>168041354
Well, i'm very much up for it, have been thinking in the same direction for a while now and i bet many people are aswell. I have gab, but don't use it, do you have any links where i could stay updated? 
Great to see ppl working towards a realistic goal.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523682822
168020859,168041959,2018-04-14 05:15:48,">>168041744
At the moment we've only got the thread, but i'll be posting it every day. This is only the second one, so it's very early days.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523682948
168020859,168042606,2018-04-14 05:23:05,">>168041959
I remember seeing you post in another thread before making your own. This is a great idea. Will most definitely be participating.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1523683385
168020859,168043436,2018-04-14 05:33:15,">>168042606
Thanks anon! It shouldn't be more then a month or so before the first groups are meeting up, based on the amount of positive feedback i got from those posts people have been looking for something like this.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523683995
168020859,168044113,2018-04-14 05:40:48,">>168043436
Aight, so the best way to stay informed is through these threads. Best of luck, you have my support.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523684448
168020859,168044999,2018-04-14 05:50:15,">>168021171
Sounds good. Please keep this general going!!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523685015
168020859,168046296,2018-04-14 06:05:04,">>168020859
Bump",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523685904
168020859,168046367,2018-04-14 06:05:56,">>168020859
bumping for the cause",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523685956
168020859,168046375,2018-04-14 06:06:01,">>168043436
Are you up to making a discord? /have one?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523685961
168020859,168046501,2018-04-14 06:07:27,">>168044113
>>168046367
thanks, anons.
>>168044999
I will be. They might be slow for the first week or so, depending on wether this happening dies down or not; but i'm looking into a more permanent, and dedicated, site to host the actual network.
>>168046375
I've heard some less-then-pleasant things about discord and datamining, but I am looking at some other options at the moment.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523686047
168020859,168046678,2018-04-14 06:09:29,"Questions:
1. So is there any gab.ai we can follow?
2. What is possible when you keep changing country every other month? Fairly hard to set up IRL communities like this.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1523686169
168020859,168047024,2018-04-14 06:13:58,">>168046678
1. At the moment, we're just bilding up support, and i'm not sure if there will be one central Gab account. But Gab is going to play a part in co-ordinating the meetups.
2. There is going to be a sort of central /vanguard/ hub at some point, so even if you aren't in one place long enough to join a group, you can follow the general movement there.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523686438
168020859,168047036,2018-04-14 06:14:04,">>168046501
I think these generals could pick up as more people become aware of it. Keep posting regularly!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523686444
168020859,168047249,2018-04-14 06:16:48,Vanguard party when,,Anonymous,,,,,1523686608
168020859,168047421,2018-04-14 06:19:03,">>168047024
Well ok, kind of sucks to be stuck on the sidelines but no choices I guess.
Also, this basically looks like a distributed Génération Identitaire to me.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1523686743
168020859,168047660,2018-04-14 06:22:08,">>168047421
Kind of, except GI is more of a european-scale pressure group which censors certain opinions on (((uncomfortable topics))).
This is more federalised and expressly focussed on building local communities.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523686928
168020859,168048340,2018-04-14 06:30:31,">>168032047
same
To every neet here get a fucking job and start training yourself physically. Dont just fucking lift, do cardio too.
and stop watching porn you fagot",,Anonymous,Stop.jpg,96/AdycmF7udlLWtLEIOmg==,FI,,1523687431
168020859,168048663,2018-04-14 06:34:10,">>168048340
Add oatmeal to your mornings if you want to put on weight. Know that the feeling of hunger is the same thing as your body burning excess fat, learn to live with it if you are losing weight.
Do cardio, boosts metabolism. If you eat more you get faster gains especially in the beginning, and if you eat less you burn more fat.
Do nofap, 7 days and testosterone levels peak, ~30 days and your body starts breaking down old sperm, which means more test for your muscles. Remember that reproducing is priority number one from evolutionary perspective. Stop suppressing your gains. Also there's that whole dopamine thing.
Start reading, pick up a life philosophy for yourself if you will. Don't just develop your body, also develop your mind. 
Get a job, start earning money and invest it in yourself. If your parents never did, buy nice clothes, take a course on some interesting topic, pick up a hobby.
Find connections, ask people to hang out. Go watch tv or go to the gym together. Just start conversation like you would to your friend and introduce yourself. Getting a gf is no different.",,Anonymous,chadf.png,qVD8j3OMot0KzfLYEa3h9g==,FI,,1523687650
168020859,168049088,2018-04-14 06:39:28,">>168048663
Good stuff.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523687968
168020859,168049903,2018-04-14 06:49:04,"Bumping this has very high potential, don't let it die pls anon",,Anonymous,1505802487823.jpg,HS1x71gXmt7uCYG3vSPHUA==,ES,,1523688544
168020859,168050229,2018-04-14 06:52:43,">>168048663
>~30 days and your body starts breaking down old sperm, which means more test for your muscles. Remember that reproducing is priority number one from evolutionary perspective. Stop suppressing your gains. Also there's that whole dopamine thing.
this part of what u said is complete nonsense u dont even realise how the body works. but agree otherwise with everything else",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523688763
168020859,168050470,2018-04-14 06:55:13,">>168049903
I'm not going too. I'm going to be keeping this threa up daily, in fact i'll be making a pastebin for when the thread gets popular enough for other people to start posting it when i'm not around.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523688913
168020859,168050969,2018-04-14 07:01:06,">>168050470
Nice. This is what /pol/ needs. No more shitposting, start doing. Unfortunately the /SIG/ threads keep getting moved to /bant/, so you may have to make this more related to politics.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523689266
168020859,168051297,2018-04-14 07:05:09,">>168020859
Bump from your former colony. 
Honest to God, what about using Discord for organizing Vanguards?",,Anonymous,M A L T A W A V E.jpg,+Tq/rpK5ua6T7c75DQ8y9A==,MT,,1523689509
168020859,168052042,2018-04-14 07:14:00,">>168050470
Would it not be a better idea to push the freedom of speech angle through people like Tommy Robson etc. first? Then when we have some sort of protection from the shield of the 'alt lite' we can begin this plan.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523690040
168020859,168052665,2018-04-14 07:20:33,">>168050229
i mean please do correct me if im wrong. That's just how i've understood it.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523690433
168020859,168052766,2018-04-14 07:21:27,">>168051297
>Discord
This is the reason why you people never get anyone serious. Everyone and their mother knows discord is a massive datamining tool. Never use it for anything serious.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1523690487
168020859,168052863,2018-04-14 07:22:41,">>168052766
It was a shot in the dark, however it's very accessible to normies.",,FilioquAnon,,,MT,,1523690561
168020859,168053166,2018-04-14 07:26:07,"I'm with you lad, we're getting very close to the end
Pike's letter was not a hoax",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523690767
168020859,168053229,2018-04-14 07:26:48,">>168052766
Telegram?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523690808
168020859,168053278,2018-04-14 07:27:27,">>168051297
https://discordapp.com/privacy
>Information We Collect
>Information You Provide: We collect information from you when you voluntarily provide such information, such as when you register for access to the Services or use certain Services. Information we collect may include but not be limited to username, email address, and any messages, images, transient VOIP data (to enable communication delivery only) or other content you send via the chat feature.
>store certain information such as an IP address, device ID, and your activities within the Services
>In an ongoing effort to better understand and serve the users of the Services, we may conduct research on our customer demographics, interests and behavior based on the information collected
>You may give us permission to collect your information in other services. For example, you may connect a social networking service (""SNS"") such as Facebook or Twitter to your Discord account.
>Our Disclosure of Your Information
>Business Transfers: As we develop our business, we might sell or buy businesses or assets. In the event of a corporate sale, merger, reorganization, bankruptcy, dissolution or similar event, your information may be part of the transferred assets.
>Related Companies: We may also share your information with our Related Companies for purposes consistent with this Privacy Policy.
>Aggregated or Non-identifiable Data: We may also share aggregated or non-personally identifiable information with our partners or others for business purposes.
(non identifiable according to whom)
>>168052863
Normies are not an excuse. If they have to spend 10 mins setting something up they will do it. This movement is basically cells of extremely right wing people, you do not do this in an amateur way.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1523690847
168020859,168053958,2018-04-14 07:34:55,">>168053229
Never rely on trusting someone else.
A plain IRC server (or whatever simple service) that you access only through tor (and VPN eventually) provides infinitely better security than putting everything in the hand of some (((company))).
The logs may be kept in this case, but who cares you are not linked to them.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1523691295
168020859,168054942,2018-04-14 07:44:56,">>168020859
Ex pathetic degenerate fat piece of shit who understands how to beat inner demons and become the best you on stand by to mentor anons who are mentally ill. Also, if you're over weight you're mentally ill.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523691896
168020859,168055157,2018-04-14 07:47:07,">>168053958
I cant see anyone setting one up. Our biggest problem is communication.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523692027
168020859,168056559,2018-04-14 08:01:41,,,Anonymous,vanguard.jpg,3cqmHjvMjtCeXVZFxU8SDw==,US,,1523692901
168020859,168057345,2018-04-14 08:09:11,">>168056559
Kek, nice",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523693351
168020859,168057537,2018-04-14 08:10:52,">>168020859
vanguard inspo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnfDjhAF2MQ
also kai murros might interest some people. 
>Revolution -
And How to Do It in a Modern Society
http://www.kolumbus.fi/aquilon/content.htm",,Anonymous,1523122267208.jpg,AI0jpCG47I+sSzj8bhFP3A==,AU,,1523693452
168101653,168101653,2018-04-14 14:09:10,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
>What is Vanguardism?
If you’re still holding out for a leader, or a happening, or something that’ll take the burden of saving our nations off your own shoulders, then this is general is a must-read.
There is a time coming when the damage done to western civilisation will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse. And make no mistake, this time is coming soon.
So, should we just assume that people will see the light? That when the social order finally collapses, they’ll see what a fraud it was and the damage that a fractured society is doing and flock to us?
No.
Because there is no “us” at the moment. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities except as individuals keeping their opinions to themselves. And while we may be swaying public opinion, if people are still afraid to say it out loud NOW, that’s not going to help us when our enemies don’t even have to pretend to accept our right to speech.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers. We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins. Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.
>”start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down. Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society. A society that's going to find it much easier to see through the lies when the truth is right beside them, answering questions.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,SigelRound.png,RluEZz2pMhwxuJCVWiTQLg==,GB,,1523714950
168101653,168101700,2018-04-14 14:09:30,">So what’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And start teaching the new group everything you've learned.
Start volunteering. Start attending community events and getting involved in unrelated local political campaigns. become known faces in your local community. And when the new group is better off and in their own routine, let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates). Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.
>Immediate goals
./soc/ colonies/ Gab accounts to organise & finalise the meetups
./SIG/pills, Links to useful material and PDFS of recommended reading for future threads
.A more permanent base for online Vanguard discussion and material storage",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1523714970
168101653,168103127,2018-04-14 14:20:13,Shameless self-bump,,Anonymous,1b.jpg,uOj8A9JiJ4gEgJfDXflLJA==,GB,,1523715613
168101653,168103770,2018-04-14 14:25:19,shit thread desu,,Anonymous,29790200_1877191032292521_4122987114244956544_n.jpg,M4TS/zwu83dqMPRoWYHSmA==,GB,,1523715919
168101653,168103782,2018-04-14 14:25:23,"What's the opinion on groups like Generation Identity and such?
They're currently having a conference near London that's being raided by Antifa.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523715923
168101653,168103918,2018-04-14 14:26:28,">>168103782
They're OK, but they censor (((certain opinons))).
Also, this is specifically not one centralised group, so the media don't have anything to latch on and attack.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523715988
168101653,168103928,2018-04-14 14:26:34,">>168101653
GWARN MY SAAAAAAHN TELL DEM PAKIS DAT DEY AINT WONTED 'ERE ANY MORE",,Anonymous,1521897647598.jpg,ynCkIT/nvMhrIfrbzuccwg==,GB,,1523715994
168101653,168105440,2018-04-14 14:37:59,">>168103918
I understand the idea behind non-organisation, and keeping people like anti-fa out of the equation, but a degree of organisation is needed.
Making this thread is great and all, but how can people who want to do something actually find others without a central hub to do it in? Like a website/forum/social media or something.
This thread doesn't actually say how I can meet these 5 people, or any useful material.
I completely agree with the concept but it needs more.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523716679
168101653,168105603,2018-04-14 14:39:10,">>168105440
See>>168101700
I've alredy addressed both those points in the immediate goals.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523716750
168101653,168105623,2018-04-14 14:39:18,Literally the worst time to try and post a serious thread. (assuming this even is one) Try again in a few days when the shitposters and shills die down.,,Anonymous,What is Fascism.png,Qyq+PpdyKiQn2nIwJQwr2Q==,US,,1523716758
168101653,168105657,2018-04-14 14:39:35,,,Anonymous,NatSoc.jpg,M+XXBnq+5EjXo/alhs7y4Q==,US,,1523716775
168101653,168105827,2018-04-14 14:40:53,">>168105623
This is the second thread today, the third in total, and the others ahve been nearly entirely positive.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523716853
168101653,168105907,2018-04-14 14:41:27,,,Anonymous,Unbridled Capitalism.jpg,aecLa8n5wRGY6qHCigdGvg==,US,,1523716887
168101653,168106306,2018-04-14 14:44:34,this is a good idea,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523717074
168101653,168106764,2018-04-14 14:47:55,">>168105623
>>168105907
Goalposting is fucking cancer.
Also if you're trying to do anything to do with identity that could be seen as far-right, you need to distance yourself from anything Nazi related, or you're fucked from the start.
>>168105603
Okay well I'm glad you've addressed it. I really want to actually do something but I have nobody to talk about on the issue.
In terms of useful material, the only thing I can think of is:
>The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray
I've not read it yet but it seems good. Although, these books are probably relevant to, they're written by two people who the left and anti-fa are aware of and actively campaign against, and promoting anything that's already been disavowed by the left is just giving them ammunition.
>No Go Zones by Raheem Kassam
>Barbarians by Lauren Southern",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523717275
168101653,168107233,2018-04-14 14:51:37,">>168106764
WOT DID YER JUST SAY? YER A TOSSA YU ARE MAYTE, A PROPRA TUHRIE TOSSA. BET YA SUPPORT WIGAN DONTCHA",,Anonymous,1521143841472.jpg,BxPt49WDwUKalQiBxG2ewg==,GB,,1523717497
168101653,168108899,2018-04-14 15:04:04,Bumping,,Anonymous,14.jpg,bgpdYYdvycxaVYValKQAAw==,GB,,1523718244
168101653,168108945,2018-04-14 15:04:22,,,Anonymous,5.png,pk8iE2rmou7JnyDp+UumTQ==,GB,,1523718262
168101653,168108996,2018-04-14 15:04:39,,,Anonymous,44.jpg,DIGcyexrGhllb9Crno//5w==,GB,,1523718279
168101653,168108998,2018-04-14 15:04:39,"take the shamanism pill. Quit being faggots.
https://youtu.be/EiXRO2fJt3E
https://youtu.be/awW3kv96L-U
learn the true principles and laws of God
https://youtu.be/ASUHN3gNxWo
Learn what true christianity is and stop worshipping statues and the church
https://youtu.be/0h5ZxVLDjZY
End human slavery and learn how it got to this point
https://youtu.be/oiCnrn6LkUo
heres the difference between religion and spirituality exoteric vs esoteric 
https://youtu.be/tSTaNN4jzBs
Hitler didnt kill the right Jews
https://youtu.be/tWiGI23N8wk",,Anonymous,996100_190574191149327_1188057339_n.jpg,4w/pCsPjBLmtB9C6XPlhJQ==,US,,1523718279
168101653,168109837,2018-04-14 15:10:32,">>168108998
>How do we retain our culture and heritage in Britain?
>Start believing bullshit paganism
Yeah ok",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523718632
168101653,168110893,2018-04-14 15:17:47,So how do we create a more permanent base for this sort of discussion?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523719067
168101653,168111031,2018-04-14 15:18:34,">>168109837
this wasnt for you faggot. I know your an ignorant piece of shit. This is for anyone who stumbles on your thread. And yes I will be posting Mark Passios work in every single one of your threads. BITCH
https://youtu.be/Yb1ToYeCVnI",,Anonymous,1518489123755.jpg,SvRHYLfSVGOvKfBVND5JZg==,US,,1523719114
168101653,168111085,2018-04-14 15:18:51,">>168110893
I'm working on that, we're just building up support at the moement.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523719131
168101653,168111089,2018-04-14 15:18:54,,,Anonymous,1484599654338.jpg,10tRv7Elb7GeQ1Ci6lqhvw==,GB,,1523719134
168101653,168111174,2018-04-14 15:19:24,">>168111031
Oh, it's you...
Don't forget you can hide ID's, folks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523719164
168101653,168111396,2018-04-14 15:20:52,">>168111031
>Mark Passios
>Mark Passio, former member of the Church of Satan, who claimed to have uncovered the secret mind control formulas being employed by the Illuminati to secretly manipulate the world.
Sounds like a nut
>>168111085
Okay good, I'm interested in doing something.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523719252
168101653,168111523,2018-04-14 15:21:46,">>168106764
I will say what is factually right no matter where it comes from.",,Anonymous,Fascism.png,jghRolND8Bc9JPudegHnpA==,US,,1523719306
168101653,168111545,2018-04-14 15:21:58,"THIS IS NOW FASHWAVE THREAD!
Niggers, kikes and democrats stop us from getting laid, time for fascism! Please jesus give me a gf!",,Anonymous,V1520291572887.png,QR7hXPG1RgudtL4UDotS+A==,US,,1523719318
168101653,168111603,2018-04-14 15:22:24,,,Anonymous,Vv676hehil8g01.jpg,QQIioLrTicvumkYNsnZ7aQ==,US,,1523719344
168101653,168111786,2018-04-14 15:23:42,,,Anonymous,Vmb6rb5k3cjf01.png,BVda8ZA81V+zXNWmajty5Q==,US,,1523719422
168101653,168111862,2018-04-14 15:24:17,,,Anonymous,V2520443239860.jpg,uaTSMyogW08173N+mtgJ7Q==,US,,1523719457
168101653,168111912,2018-04-14 15:24:37,,,Anonymous,v1523342306298.jpg,TLurna8KYFXvAcgGhTYuaA==,US,,1523719477
168101653,168112049,2018-04-14 15:25:35,,,Anonymous,v1522309659216.jpg,xDEHWzRa5UNWucGfv4gZXw==,US,,1523719535
168101653,168112382,2018-04-14 15:28:00,">>168111545
Do you think you are spreading the Love Jesus Christ wants you to spread? Only through actual faith would you be spared the fires. You are using the Lord's name in vain.",,Anonymous,A903903A-5C1F-4E8B-A8C4-9170E4D3F493.jpg,cLMtpH7JKDXg5dpH0feMYQ==,US,,1523719680
168101653,168112450,2018-04-14 15:28:34,,,Anonymous,V1521849357012.jpg,TgfNGB7DIkFosOhCtfJwrw==,US,,1523719714
168101653,168112493,2018-04-14 15:28:54,>>168112382,,Anonymous,V520289612559.png,0Fd3lwIVFw8f7m+mDwE4Sg==,US,,1523719734
168101653,168112545,2018-04-14 15:29:20,,,Anonymous,G1520289839534.jpg,B3F3DN2g0c6yHhf9NP17hw==,US,,1523719760
168101653,168112596,2018-04-14 15:29:40,,,Anonymous,G1520288339360.jpg,FARI7DStcQfm/P/uW6dKIg==,US,,1523719780
168101653,168112602,2018-04-14 15:29:44,">>168112382
Don't bother, it's a lefty/pol/ shill. This is what they think trolling is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523719784
168101653,168112682,2018-04-14 15:30:18,>>168112602,,Anonymous,V520318727011.jpg,4l1x1GSi+pEv90yVnYCHFA==,US,,1523719818
168101653,168112701,2018-04-14 15:30:28,">>168111396
>doesnt believe in redemption
How do you expect mankind to ascend? We need to acknowledge our faults and overcome them. All religion is mind control and Mark fell victim to one of the many forms of mind control.
Insider knowledge",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523719828
168101653,168112844,2018-04-14 15:31:32,,,Anonymous,V1520291854403.jpg,mpTUV88DckeQb3Vx4SRDrw==,US,,1523719892
168101653,168112885,2018-04-14 15:31:50,,,Anonymous,V1520291617401.jpg,VCzTjbi6Q/1PEPWn6K1tvw==,US,,1523719910
168101653,168112906,2018-04-14 15:32:02,">>168112701
>How do you expect mankind to ascend? 
What the fuck are you on about lad?
This thread is about nationalism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523719922
168101653,168112926,2018-04-14 15:32:10,,,Anonymous,V1520289327491.jpg,Ihm9KKesUabcpzbdMG+cDw==,US,,1523719930
168101653,168113034,2018-04-14 15:32:56,">>168112493
>>168112545
>>168112596
>>168112682
You do know that no one cares for forced memes right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523719976
168101653,168113170,2018-04-14 15:33:55,">>168112906
I pissed him off in the last thread by laughing at him so now he's assmad.
Just filter his ID, i'm doing it for both of them.",,Anonymous,Untitled.png,sgtOxcK4fnH10+MwU0n7Eg==,GB,,1523720035
168101653,168113279,2018-04-14 15:34:49,">>168112602
>>168112682
Oh my bad. I thought he was an actual fashwave guy. Nah I love him now. Good memes 10/10",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523720089
168101653,168113600,2018-04-14 15:37:15,">>168101653
Not a good plan
What we need to do ia stop Larping and dominate the social currents and stop the subversion of our side/ views done by intelligence agencies through redpilling offensives and anons talking personally with their friends to change their minds
Also a lot of lies, balkanization, ignorance and controlled opposition in our group we need to get rid of. We are literally teeming with controlled opposition and our movement is more kike controlled than the fucken British Parliament. 
The trick is to keep this as organic as possible, and as irl, grassroots 
 and normal as possible. Like normal, modern citizens but with our opinions. No bullshit antisocialness or weird sects and shit. We were strongest when we were normies and normie friendly but with our opinions. It is the only way
If you’re intelligent you can use the swaying of the times to redpill similar minded friends
What we need also is a centre for raw unsubverted information. Enough to redpill but not enough to compromise the whole movement
Good luck from the New World, Britfags.",,Anonymous,8934A0A1-C61A-4CDC-B444-B2A59819A6ED.jpg,H/eRJl4tIHNobD+mKY77GQ==,US,,1523720235
168101653,168113718,2018-04-14 15:38:15,">>168113600
That's what this is.
Try reading both posts.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523720295
168101653,168114306,2018-04-14 15:42:16,">>168112906
>>168113170
What are you guys friends? How do you not understand what ascend means? You think what your trying to accomplish with nationalism isnt an attempt to ascend from degeneracy? I called the one yarble ignorant and he filters me... proves me right and him afraid of having to do more work than he thought",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523720536
168101653,168114346,2018-04-14 15:42:33,"PROTIP: Try coming up with an actual intellectual basis for your ""ideology"" that can stand up to scrutiny and isn't just based on a bunch of ""things are different now :("" irrational resentment.
Throughout the history of ideological mass politics never once has the ""far-right"" came up with a halfway decent intellectual justification for its own existence. Liberalism has one. Socialism has several. But Absolutist Reactionism? Fascism? At best, some vague nonspeak about ""the natural order"", or something about divine sanction. At worst, rah-rah chauvinist rhetoric, wrapped in fear-mongering style and blown up to compromise for a complete lack of substance.
List your most fundamental philosophical principles. Explain why are these principles superior to others. Demonstrate how your political methods realize those principles. Show what are the ultimate goals of your ""movement"". Write utopian fiction to exemplify it. Present real-life reasons why people would ever want to support you.
If you can't go toe-to-toe in a with a real Marxist Socialist or a Rousseau Liberal, chances are your ""movement"" is nothing more than an angry outburst of raw discontent. A peasant revolt, simply waiting for a substantial ideology to gobble up its members into ""true"" political consciousness. Regurgitating more political kitsch (>>168108899, >>168108945, >>168108996, >>168111089, >>168111545, >>168111603, >>168111786, >>168111862, >>168111912, >>168112493, >>168112545, >>168112596, >>168112844, >>168112885, >>168112926) will ensure it'll remain the stupid non-movement of a bunch of resentful young men looking for somewhere to direct their anger at the world.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1523720553
168101653,168114694,2018-04-14 15:45:03,https://youtu.be/2LZr3wr3AUk,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523720703
168101653,168115004,2018-04-14 15:47:14,">>168114346
The fashwave guy is a shill.
There are plenty of reasons for nationalism, but thanks for the advice, best ally.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523720834
168101653,168115245,2018-04-14 15:49:02,">>168115004
>There are plenty of reasons for nationalism
Even the best I heard are all pragmatic rather than idealists.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1523720942
168101653,168115555,2018-04-14 15:51:22,">>168115245
Why is it a bad thing to want to do something out of pragmatism?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523721082
168101653,168116024,2018-04-14 15:54:38,">>168115555
Check the flag.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523721278
168101653,168116196,2018-04-14 15:55:48,">>168115555
Pragmatism is a good thing. It's starry-eyed idealism which leads to shit like GULAGS, invading Russia 'cause 'they're not white and it'll be easy' and now globalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523721348
168101653,168116231,2018-04-14 15:56:01,">>168115555
No, but it by definition implies that you choose to do it as an unfortunate compromise between a good ideal and a bad reality.
I have never heard a convincing argument for nationalism as an optimal to which we should actively strive.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1523721361
168101653,168116338,2018-04-14 15:56:58,">>168116024
>he's jewish so he's not white
This is exactly the sort of bullshit I'm talking about.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523721418
168101653,168116347,2018-04-14 15:57:03,">>168115555
Checked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523721423
168101653,168116519,2018-04-14 15:58:18,">>168116196
Pragmatism is a good thing, but you must have idealism to have an accurate gauge on your society's performance.
Without having an ideal to aim towards, how can you tell where to direct your ""movement""? Without idealism, what is pragmatism there to serve if not simply perpetuating the status quo?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1523721498
168101653,168116525,2018-04-14 15:58:21,">>168116338
It's definitionally true. And i was actually talking about why he was denigrating European Nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523721501
168101653,168116627,2018-04-14 15:59:06,">>168116231
So instead you favour socialism and liberalism, which are idealistic and not grounded in reality?
Being pragmatic isn't a compromise, it's picking something that works.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523721546
168101653,168116657,2018-04-14 15:59:21,">>168116519
10/10 post, greatest ally",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523721561
168101653,168117130,2018-04-14 16:02:59,">>168116627
The reality in which you live is a very much liberal reality, buddy. Almost all institutions you daily interact with are rooted in liberalism, up to and including the modern liberal state.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1523721779
168101653,168118154,2018-04-14 16:11:09,Bump. Good thread.,,Anonymous,656.jpg,IK1LZpuTVTz7IthRsEW6YA==,GB,,1523722269
168101653,168118671,2018-04-14 16:15:32,">>168101653
indeed we do. Listen to bowden on Vanguardism. A small group of dedicated, committed and intelligent radicals can shape the entire world. Indeed that's what small groups of marxists did to the west in the 20th century.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523722532
168101653,168119141,2018-04-14 16:19:29,">>168114346
Rousseau is only loved by the left because they fail to read all of his work (the First Discourse and his Considerations are very reactionary, and he even talks there about the necessity of ""national physiognomy"") and to understand his engagement with other Enlightenment thinkers like Voltaire (see recent work on the Counter-Enlightenment).",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1523722769
168101653,168121322,2018-04-14 16:37:15,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523723835
168101653,168123291,2018-04-14 16:51:37,">>168101653
>>168101700
That sounds like a lot of work, OP. I'd rather just keep waiting for the collapse.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523724697
168177183,168177183,2018-04-15 01:31:06,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
>What is Vanguardism?
If you’re still holding out for a leader, or a happening, or something that’ll take the burden of saving our nations off your own shoulders, then this is general is a must-read.
There is a time coming when the damage done to western civilisation will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse. And make no mistake, this time is coming soon.
So, should we just assume that people will see the light? That when the social order finally collapses, they’ll see what a fraud it was and the damage that a fractured society is doing and flock to us?
No.
Because there is no “us” at the moment. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities except as individuals keeping their opinions to themselves. And while we may be swaying public opinion, if people are still afraid to say it out loud NOW, that’s not going to help us when our enemies don’t even have to pretend to accept our right to speech.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers. We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins. Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.
>”start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down. Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society. A society that's going to find it much easier to see through the lies when the truth is right beside them, answering questions.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,Vanguard.png,RluEZz2pMhwxuJCVWiTQLg==,GB,,1523755866
168177183,168177213,2018-04-15 01:31:25,">So what’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And start teaching the new group everything you've learned.
Start volunteering. Start attending community events and getting involved in unrelated local political campaigns. become known faces in your local community. And when the new group is better off and in their own routine, let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates). Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.
>Immediate goals
./soc/ colonies/ Gab accounts to organise & finalise the meetups
./SIG/pills, Links to useful material and PDFS of recommended reading for future threads
.A more permanent base for online Vanguard discussion and material storage",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1523755885
168177183,168178055,2018-04-15 01:40:04,">>168177213
Okay, where do you live?
Oh? You don't want to say it online? Okay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523756404
168177183,168178089,2018-04-15 01:40:22,">>168177183
excellent idea tbqh 
would do, hope this spreads 
we can certianly use a grass roots movemnt to improve ourselves",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523756422
168177183,168178183,2018-04-15 01:41:13,">>168178055
you do realize that we can communiate in other methods",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523756473
168177183,168178364,2018-04-15 01:42:56,">>168178055
You don't *need* to say it online, outside of a general area and a place you can meet up.
>>168178089
Thanks for the support, anon! This is the fourth thread so far, so it's very early days. I'll be posting it every day, so keep an eye out for when we get enough people to start making /soc/ colonies and putting theory to practise.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523756576
168177183,168178386,2018-04-15 01:43:07,">>168178183
So you want to give /pol/ information to contact you directly? Not a wise idea.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523756587
168177183,168178482,2018-04-15 01:44:26,">>168178364
>Meeting people outside of /pol/",,Anonymous,77986f9f9a4d6cb545170117b967804edddcdae9012146ba9c94310ed66aa2c1.jpg,cmgsE0JlLODPCRtWm8/MWw==,US,,1523756666
168177183,168178617,2018-04-15 01:45:55,">>168178482
>>168178386
if your uncomfortable with that 
then find people in your area wit common ideals 
they group up 
form a sense of group 
work on self improvement",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523756755
168177183,168178749,2018-04-15 01:47:24,">>168178482
Yeah, that's the general idea.
If you have a problem with it, stick to our online efforts or just don't participate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523756844
168177183,168179382,2018-04-15 01:54:53,"What is the esoteric connection between the Western world and the Western Wall of Jerusalem?
Perhaps that the West is like a fallen temple that needs to be rebuilt?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523757293
168177183,168179859,2018-04-15 02:00:51,">>168177183
These videos suck. Fucking ear rape. Work on that,",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523757651
168177183,168180051,2018-04-15 02:02:58,">>168179859
they aren't my videos, and the guy died in 2012 so passable audio quality is the best we're going to get.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523757778
168177183,168181336,2018-04-15 02:19:23,Shameless self-bump,,Anonymous,43C7C36D-1318-440B-A48B-B3D8940F1630.jpg,CQPonLysHS6Ctn2S8KMkew==,GB,,1523758763
168177183,168181694,2018-04-15 02:23:42,">larping this hard
dead movement, give up while your ahead faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1523759022
168177183,168181816,2018-04-15 02:25:20,">>168181694
Sad the memeflag.",,Anonymous,Queen bants.jpg,C0i5OXI4fPI8KUbxDhzDBg==,GB,,1523759120
168177183,168181909,2018-04-15 02:26:24,">>168181694
can't fault these faggots for trying
>>168181336
>not taking the anti-anti-anti-anti-fascist pill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523759184
168177183,168182668,2018-04-15 02:36:50,">>168177183
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view
How would white men in the colonies debate nationalists from indigenous communities? This is a weakness I have problems with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523759810
168177183,168182861,2018-04-15 02:39:43,">>168182668
Honestly, i wouldn't know how to help you with that. But other Americans might, and that's why we're here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523759983
168177183,168183125,2018-04-15 02:43:12,,,Sage,1522255802690.png,oYgrFzvXHGoK6Ce2t6jvxg==,US,,1523760192
168177183,168183220,2018-04-15 02:44:42,">>168183125
Try reading the first 2 posts before jumping to conclusions.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523760282
168177183,168183385,2018-04-15 02:46:43,intresting. bumb,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523760403
168177183,168184874,2018-04-15 03:07:05,Self-bump,,Anonymous,29595246_1942547056075067_8984084807099812764_n.jpg,NiZo/73uTABeAxhBjHgrgQ==,GB,,1523761625
168177183,168184972,2018-04-15 03:08:36,>>168183220,,Sage,fbi1_995.jpg,HSbBqyVY1m+FytjO8QsuZw==,US,,1523761716
168177183,168185464,2018-04-15 03:15:18,">>168182668
? You created America, not them
Just tell them that they are welcome to help rebuilt the society you founded, if they don’t want to then they can stay in their reservations",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1523762118
168177183,168186562,2018-04-15 03:30:51,This symbol will become relevant in the near future...,,Anonymous,1522573539386.gif,HH8YLNgFEG/Qpo0eEwYIUA==,MX,,1523763051
168177183,168187845,2018-04-15 03:52:14,">>168186562
Let's hope so.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523764334
168177183,168188069,2018-04-15 03:55:52,bump,,Anonymous,1523768429075.jpg,a8lkDQsMJXAEbqz3pe+nXw==,GB,,1523764552
168177183,168188697,2018-04-15 04:05:50,Improvement redpill,,Anonymous,1521178557.png,KKuUWpibPx3PvMsJ2sctig==,GB,,1523765150
168177183,168189052,2018-04-15 04:11:08,">>168188697
Another",,Anonymous,1519298228.png,FTjkNjcjuU+Pk9GhAAoWhA==,GB,,1523765468
168177183,168189980,2018-04-15 04:26:39,">>168188697
>>168189052
Great advice, thanks anon. I'm collecting redpills related to our goals at the moment to use for bumping future threads, and these are perfect.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523766399
168177183,168190125,2018-04-15 04:28:54,">>168189980
Have another, friend",,Anonymous,No Fap.png,QIFuT07cmEKKz2QFRxjj7g==,GB,,1523766534
168177183,168190289,2018-04-15 04:31:16,">>168177183
Drop the lightning bolt otherwise the movement will be still born due to massive negative association.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523766676
168177183,168190294,2018-04-15 04:31:25,>>168190125,,Anonymous,prolactin.gif,TtdZj+m9Oafo1uFMlXJbRg==,GB,,1523766685
168177183,168190569,2018-04-15 04:35:43,">>168177183
I live in a rural midwestern city. Practically everyone already agrees with me on the big points. Sadly there seems to be little point in this for me. But I support your efforts OP",,Anonymous,delicious redpills.png,xP3rEDcT9TJYvSPCRKrctg==,,,1523766943
168177183,168190686,2018-04-15 04:37:26,"Anon from yesterday bumping, curious to see how this unfolds.
>>168190289 also have to agree with this guy",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523767046
168177183,168190717,2018-04-15 04:38:06,">>168177183
You're a good man. Keep making these threads and getting the word out, brother.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1523767086
168177183,168190843,2018-04-15 04:40:02,"It seems perfidious anglo is finally doing something about the situation europe finds itself in right now.You're finally doing something that won't bring down the continental european man.
Let's see if your efforts are going to be honest this time. Hope you won't backstab your cousins once again through another world war when shit hits the fan as you've been used to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523767202
168177183,168191002,2018-04-15 04:42:42,">>168190289
>>168190686
It's not a lightning bolt, it's a Sigel rune; and i'm working on more in different colours schemes. But the resemblance of the design is intentional.
We're going to get negative associations whatever we do; they'll only get more intense as we get more successfull.
We aren't going to defend ourselves against it by playing to the enemy's standards. We defend ourselves against it by sticking firmly to our own standards and working on how the rest of the world sees us.
The flash and circle simply Represents action and unity. We have no reason to feel ashamed of that, or act ashamed because of it. If we try to mask it behind a pound shop swastika ripoff, not only will the media make the connection anyway but people will respect us less for being subliminally aware that people aren't supposed to like us.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523767362
168177183,168191033,2018-04-15 04:43:14,What you're describing is passivism 101. Google it. Though maybe you already knew that and just rebranded the name so retards on /pol/ wouldn't say stupid shit?,,Anonymous,,,JP,,1523767394
168177183,168191094,2018-04-15 04:44:08,">>168190294
On how to get people to handle redpills...",,Anonymous,Handling redpills.jpg,x3bjz+jZEZ0Uyzbuo5dALw==,GB,,1523767448
168177183,168191367,2018-04-15 04:48:37,"A good number of redpills on this site.
https://murdercube.com/files/
Worth a look",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523767717
168177183,168191393,2018-04-15 04:49:03,">>168177183
>>168190289
Make the symbol a dark blue with grey outline rampant horse which symbolically represents a vanguard outrunner, a balance of wisdom and strength/power (the animal) and knowledge, power, seriousness, intelligence and maturity (colours).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523767743
168177183,168191416,2018-04-15 04:49:27,">>168191033
https://www.socialmatter.net/2016/04/19/how-to-passivism/",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1523767767
168177183,168191532,2018-04-15 04:51:18,">>168191002
No they absolutely will immediately brand everyone a neo-nazi because that's essentially what you're doing with that rune symbol. Make a new one. 
See: >>168191393",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523767878
168177183,168191950,2018-04-15 04:53:40,">>168177183
Oswald Mosley literally did nothing wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDhupp3kqVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDMiui8LShk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4bUIpD-S_Y",,Anonymous,mosley01.png,2tRZzKNmveIxvxof3LEqkA==,US,,1523768020
168177183,168192056,2018-04-15 04:55:20,">>168191950
We know anon",,Anonymous,Oswald Feelsly.jpg,OJBkJPgNmjKbRpHRjKT2eQ==,GB,,1523768120
168177183,168192063,2018-04-15 04:55:29,">>168191033
Seems decent, and maybe we were influenced by the ame sources because it does sound strikingly similar. But i can't say i've heard of it before.
>>168191532
See your own suggestion for a design? Thanks, but no thanks. The media will brand us neo-nazis wether we use a horse or a symbol with actual meaning, so fuck off with that optics cuckery.
Also, this- >>168191950",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523768129
168177183,168192284,2018-04-15 04:59:00,">>168192056
Take heart cousin. We will be victorious in the end.",,Anonymous,ss wojak.png,ALEAm+L/4O57xOkMO9D6VA==,,,1523768340
168177183,168192321,2018-04-15 04:59:38,">>168192063
>The media will brand us neo-nazis wether we use a horse or a symbol with actual meaning
Not necessarily, if we're smart and don't even get into the public view , which if I understood correctly should be something to go for, they wouldn't, which is also why arguing about the fucking logo at such an early point is stupid. First set up a good network and connections.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523768378
168177183,168192374,2018-04-15 05:00:27,"Why won't mosley's descendants get involved in politics? Wouldn't they get any support? Mussolini's granddaughter is a famous politician in Italy today, for instance.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523768427
168177183,168192438,2018-04-15 05:01:35,">>168192284
Truth will always prevail.",,Anonymous,1523617939663.jpg,KKnhZVyv6I4uq2qDFSi4nw==,GB,,1523768495
168177183,168192478,2018-04-15 05:02:11,">>168192374
You mean his son Max?
I think he is involved at some level, i read somewhere that he supports Jeremy Corbyn; but he turned out to be something of a degenerate anyway.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523768531
168177183,168192505,2018-04-15 05:02:39,,,Anonymous,1506799428534.png,Penl0+lNa9fnGy+3kCFm5w==,GB,,1523768559
168177183,168192701,2018-04-15 05:05:37,">>168191532
Doesn't matter if the emblem is a sickle and a hammer. What matters is the purpose.",,Anonymous,protein.png,wWpwK2w4D6GP76RsAgObTg==,FI,,1523768737
168177183,168192717,2018-04-15 05:05:53,">>168192478
Mosley had like 5 children, and many grandchildren
There probably is a young lad somewhere carrying his name that isn't famous or something",,Anonymous,,,,,1523768753
168177183,168192782,2018-04-15 05:06:57,"How about,",,Anonymous,EschNaz.png,IPMPeQbw7Tl+CGnnGw8vWg==,,,1523768817
168177183,168192801,2018-04-15 05:07:16,">>168191094
On meditation...",,Anonymous,meditation.jpg,MylTMeggqmssYfXVdXxC2w==,GB,,1523768836
168177183,168192802,2018-04-15 05:07:17,,,Anonymous,Phoenix-Fabelwesen.jpg,Q8wf6BfjdTeW4z6YEshtew==,,,1523768837
168177183,168193332,2018-04-15 05:16:31,"Your movement is basically organized friendship, and those bonds will be moderated and disarmed through the same channels as friendships are currently moderated and disarmed by.
A cohesive society is not part of elite interests. The proletariat has to be at each others' necks always. Be volatile and antisocial or you're not a real man!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523769391
168177183,168193354,2018-04-15 05:16:53,The damages of fapping...,,Anonymous,fapping.png,Ih12nRuNxJ+f+GGALL0BRw==,GB,,1523769413
168177183,168193411,2018-04-15 05:18:01,">>168177183
Bumpin'",,Anonymous,1501453715094.jpg,imgDZQ2t0gpiagBLB/8xdw==,,,1523769481
168177183,168193692,2018-04-15 05:22:28,,,Anonymous,1507054422361.png,iZxK9xEqk1ZR6pp6Sj6p1A==,GB,,1523769748
168177183,168193993,2018-04-15 05:27:39,"Have to pop out for a bit, so here's the first recolour to keep the thread bumped.",,Anonymous,Vanguard2.png,N0zeF0MEFAWrOZp4rVKyXw==,GB,,1523770059
168177183,168194098,2018-04-15 05:29:03,">>168193993
would be nice if the colors had meaning too.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523770143
168177183,168194179,2018-04-15 05:30:17,">>168193354
Fasting is very useful in your improvement. Helps with weight loss, gets rid of shitty cells in your body(e.g. cancer cells and cells with broken protein) and improves skin. Helps with muscle growth if you exercise too. Link related.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3946160/",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523770217
168177183,168194222,2018-04-15 05:30:53,">>168194098
I was thinking perhaps each group, or region could use their own colors so they mean something to them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523770253
168177183,168194368,2018-04-15 05:33:14,Sounds like what i'm going through right now.,,Anonymous,pap (3).jpg,cgg6M/yGppk3/kXyCzMyzA==,SG,,1523770394
168177183,168194408,2018-04-15 05:33:50,">>168194222
That is actually sounds like a pretty good idea",,Anonymous,1523620484969.jpg,xUSmpMwoyZVgI/iOHEo79Q==,GB,,1523770430
168177183,168194534,2018-04-15 05:36:11,">>168193354
i wish cunts on here would stop posting so much tits and ass as thread starters.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523770571
168177183,168194709,2018-04-15 05:39:21,">>168194534
It is annoying. Fucking degenerates.",,Anonymous,1523034447449.png,L0FxUFzoRT5BlSCTEQgCSQ==,GB,,1523770761
168177183,168194787,2018-04-15 05:40:45,">>168194408
I made this for you Bong lads. Nothing fancy but I think it gets the message across. Though we could go even more local too. Use the colors of our town/city flags and the like.",,Anonymous,file.png,bbo8oTtQVEfzYPAKjoxGBg==,,,1523770845
168177183,168195060,2018-04-15 05:45:00,">>168194787
Alternate",,Anonymous,1523785245711.png,NYv742jAZrKIqHnnywqE8w==,GB,,1523771100
168177183,168195424,2018-04-15 05:51:30,bump for visibility,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523771490
168177183,168195427,2018-04-15 05:51:33,">>168195060
That would look really noice as a flag/banner. Well done m8",,Anonymous,,,,,1523771493
168177183,168195542,2018-04-15 05:53:35,">>168195427
I'm going to try and do an American one. With 50 stars on the red",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523771615
168177183,168195991,2018-04-15 06:00:50,bump again,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523772050
168177183,168196119,2018-04-15 06:03:07,Mandatory.,,Anonymous,nao.png,IvF7XscTiTnh+ofQlePNwQ==,AU,,1523772187
168177183,168196189,2018-04-15 06:04:22,"Sounds like a good idea to me, but would only be able to get involved in person later on this year",,Anonymous,1472390803436.jpg,VrB1LAvj80Gx8dErvSR/Og==,GB,,1523772262
168177183,168196195,2018-04-15 06:04:30,">>168196119
Looks like my shoes lul",,Anonymous,,,,,1523772270
168177183,168196244,2018-04-15 06:05:30,">>168196119
Doing one for ya in a bit, Aussie. It will be there (hopefully) next general.",,Anonymous,0e9.jpg,ryu8feEeRgOd9Ew5iPzccA==,GB,,1523772330
168177183,168196312,2018-04-15 06:06:39,Hello GCHQ,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523772399
168177183,168196413,2018-04-15 06:08:26,">>168177183
>wiki vanguardism
>""In the context of the theory of Marxist revolutionary struggle, vanguardism is a strategy whereby...""
into the trash it goes",,Anonymous,,,,,1523772506
168177183,168196423,2018-04-15 06:08:37,">>168196312
>a project about improving yourself and your community is the work of glow in the dark niggers
Wew, lad, wew.",,Anonymous,1458634243371.jpg,rajIzSZ+tfLTNvDdwTqVhg==,,,1523772517
168177183,168196471,2018-04-15 06:09:26,">>168196423
Hello GCHQ!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523772566
168177183,168196487,2018-04-15 06:09:36,bump,,Anonymous,spanish_vanguard.png,pkZE5HAyUhbQJD6uerLggQ==,GB,,1523772576
168177183,168196534,2018-04-15 06:10:24,">>168196471
lul welcome to my filter, retard.",,Anonymous,how to shiptost.jpg,mPkCvP9OszXTJFheIRqaXQ==,,,1523772624
168177183,168196634,2018-04-15 06:12:00,">>168196413
>in the context of
you posted my refutation for me, dumbass.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523772720
168177183,168196651,2018-04-15 06:12:16,">>168196534
>retard
I'm English, you're supposed to convince me to sign on and prove you aren't GCHQ, not call me a retard. If I was a shill, you would have lost.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523772736
168177183,168196751,2018-04-15 06:13:59,">>168196413
>Wiki vanguard
>The vanguard (also called the advance guard) is the leading part of an advancing military formation.
Please try not to take everything like it's communism otherwise you'll seem retarded.",,Anonymous,1341287123822.gif,X0RM/wJ7PNuf/H6fq7J1sw==,GB,,1523772839
168177183,168196856,2018-04-15 06:15:50,">>168196651
You're wildly paranoid. Why should I bother trying to get someone on board that is mentally ill? We don't need ticking time bombs associated with us. Even something as loosely structured as this. If was an intelligence agent I would be actively TRYING to recruit mentally ill nutters like you so I could goad you into doing something dangerous which could give casus belli for a crackdown. Convinced now? I don't give a fuck.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523772950
168177183,168196919,2018-04-15 06:17:03,">>168196634
i´ll have to pass on this one",,Anonymous,gjfjf.png,bN4NzK2bqfD91kfPNZGvJg==,,,1523773023
168177183,168196931,2018-04-15 06:17:12,">>168185464
I'm not in America",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523773032
168177183,168196942,2018-04-15 06:17:18,">>168196856
Then you've lost. Your movement is dead before it even began. Have fun.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523773038
168177183,168196977,2018-04-15 06:18:05,">>168194787
>>168195060
pretty good
>>168196119
based
>>168196487
Didn't even think of using the shading like that, I was just going to add more colour sections in the middle.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523773085
168177183,168197043,2018-04-15 06:19:01,">>168196919
If your IQ isn't high enough to be able to comprehend a word being used in more then 2 contexts, then we won't miss you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523773141
168177183,168197363,2018-04-15 06:24:33,">>168196977
The American Division
>What do you think? This took a long time. 50 stars = 50 states",,Anonymous,American Division.jpg,7esdFiOR7zmJ52HfRWInww==,GB,,1523773473
168177183,168197364,2018-04-15 06:24:34,>>168177183,,Anonymous,Anglo Pride.jpg,cJMoGHZWflmp6gWYFKOIvQ==,US,,1523773474
168177183,168197423,2018-04-15 06:25:27,">>168197363
I would put the stars in the blue field and leave the red part solid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523773527
168177183,168197610,2018-04-15 06:28:17,">>168197363
might be better if the stars were only in the outer ring and not in the Z bit",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523773697
168177183,168197704,2018-04-15 06:29:53,">>168197423
>>168197610
Fuck it, I'll put it in the blue. Better for my sanity",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523773793
168177183,168198070,2018-04-15 06:35:25,">>168197363
Looks pretty good! I'd add to this >>168197423
by saying you probably don't need all 50 stars, 13 for the original colonies should do. But it looks better then i thought an american version would look! (no offence burgers, but trying to get the aesthetics of your flag in a circle is seriously fucking hard, i've gone through 3 different prototypes of my own.)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523774125
168177183,168198206,2018-04-15 06:37:49,">>168198070
I will probably do that",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523774269
168177183,168198210,2018-04-15 06:37:56,"Guys I think you're putting too much energy into the aesthetics of this movement instead of the actual movement, there is no network, no website no nothing. I love the idea, but the logo itself doesn't do shit.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523774276
168177183,168198290,2018-04-15 06:39:05,"Don't forget to have someone as the rear-guard, too. Everyone wants to lead, but always cover your six.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523774345
168177183,168198424,2018-04-15 06:41:47,">>168198210
It's only the fourth thread, anon. None of them have even reached bump limit yet.
I'm looking into options for the base site at the moment, & once we have a large & consitent following we'll start setting up /soc/ colonies.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523774507
168177183,168198487,2018-04-15 06:42:50,">>168177183
Godspeed anon, that movement is exactly what we need",,Anonymous,1421070493311.png,vNpwySXPQFAai4lVEk+Zdw==,PL,,1523774570
168177183,168198511,2018-04-15 06:43:17,>the LARPtard general is back,,Hanna Mayer,hqdefault.jpg,iX303VMjtGUUeaCVZROv7A==,GB,,1523774597
168177183,168198857,2018-04-15 06:49:04,">>168198511
Never left, tripfag.",,Anonymous,1522982541931.jpg,bTNGXPStTcpcIuOJMLcZCg==,GB,,1523774944
168177183,168198892,2018-04-15 06:49:34,">>168198487
So true.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1523774974
168177183,168198900,2018-04-15 06:49:48,">168198511
>muh LARP!
Crawl back to your shithole
>>168186694",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523774988
168177183,168199098,2018-04-15 06:53:07,">>168198900
>everyone i don't like is a shit/pol/ inhabitant
Awww, poor baby :(",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523775187
168177183,168199108,2018-04-15 06:53:20,">>168198210
This, need some practical groundwork before worrying about logos for different countries.
Also I dislike the idea of using a lightning-bolt-esque design, because we'll get discarded as neo-nazi fascists immediately. You may not think using a logo like that is a big deal but it is. Connotations matter.
For the last 2 or 3 threads you've been saying that you're ""looking into"" a base site.
What ideas do you have? We can try and get something up today.
There is considerable support online for this sort of movement.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523775200
168177183,168199112,2018-04-15 06:53:25,LARPing cunts. Kek.,,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523775205
168177183,168199213,2018-04-15 06:55:02,">>168199098
>I wonder what this is? >>168189537
nice one cunt",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523775302
168177183,168199266,2018-04-15 06:55:58,">>168199213
Fucking state of Anonymong investigatory skills.",,Hanna Mayer,"flat,800x800,075,f (2).jpg",9+fk54UwqjLsD3A+fGsNAg==,GB,,1523775358
168177183,168199535,2018-04-15 07:00:50,">>168198070
New American Division
>Better?",,Anonymous,American Division.jpg,Mvbsac3MnLYnm00VeP203A==,GB,,1523775650
168177183,168199558,2018-04-15 07:01:53,">>168199108
I've also been saying for the last 2 or 3 threads that I'll be setting it up once we start getting that support. I'm confident we will, but i'm not going to make the space untill we have the people to fill it. Which these threads are about building up, right now.
And as I explained earlier, we're already going to be written off by the media once we start making any progress.
>>168199213
Stop giving it (you)s.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523775713
168177183,168199576,2018-04-15 07:01:56,">>168189052
So, are you allowed to go on walks in those 7 days? Or write poems?",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523775716
168177183,168199654,2018-04-15 07:03:12,">mfw he's under 6'2"" and thinks britain still has a chance",,Hanna Mayer,comment_MFixpwBSsZc3ad591LXKb7wH5rb8fNBf.jpg,zhiZezgn7+Mre/QRmXen2A==,GB,,1523775792
168177183,168199677,2018-04-15 07:03:38,">>168199558
>we're already going to be written off by the media
So why give them extra ammo to fight us with by having a fashy logo?
What ideas do you have for the site?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523775818
168177183,168199776,2018-04-15 07:05:23,">>168199576
yes",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523775923
168177183,168200185,2018-04-15 07:11:16,">>168199535
Try spacing the stars out around the outer edge. Other then that, quite a bit better, yeah!
>>168199677
First of all, there is no ""us"". We aren't a united organisation, we're multiple small groups of 5 who shar the same online space, which is what the logo is for. So there is no central group for the media to attack, for the logo or anything else.
Second, try reading the other replies ive already made on this subject- >>168191002
>>168192063 - and stop saying fascist & fashy like it's a bad thing.
As for the site, since we only really need a hb for content, communication & meetup threads, i'm going to be setting up an 8 board.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523776276
168177183,168200310,2018-04-15 07:13:07,">>168199535
My own take on it",,Anonymous,usa_vanguard.jpg,lFh7mOe0nOm/oKw2o4DAvw==,GB,,1523776387
168177183,168200431,2018-04-15 07:14:56,">>168200310
You know what? Yeah that's good enough. Let's leave it at that.
>Next one: Australia",,Anonymous,53f.jpg,MUcGWQ4XP3Xn9Ps7Ch+5EQ==,GB,,1523776496
168177183,168200494,2018-04-15 07:16:06,">>168200431
>>168200310
>>168200185
>>168199776
LARPing cunts.",,Hanna Mayer,CJRgt-cWIAAAUn-.jpg,2R/WXCWUtGVyO7rZ5Z4jWA==,GB,,1523776566
168177183,168200615,2018-04-15 07:18:10,">>168200431
Yeah, the American one was always going to be a nightmare to design. They are a hell of a lot better then my attempts, though, i kept fucking up the spacing & trying to make some stripes out of the colour sections, but it always ended up fucking awful.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523776690
168177183,168200910,2018-04-15 07:22:30,">>168200615
Australia was pretty easy, IMO",,Anonymous,Australian Division.jpg,QJXPp0UFjSc8hstZILfE7Q==,GB,,1523776950
168177183,168201008,2018-04-15 07:24:04,">>168200910
Yeah, that works nicely!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523777044
168177183,168201072,2018-04-15 07:24:47,">>168200910
>>168200615
>>168201008
>hey look at this shit logo
>WOW GRATE WORK
SHITTAIN SAVED.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523777087
168177183,168201087,2018-04-15 07:25:04,Virgin loser cunts.,,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523777104
168177183,168201465,2018-04-15 07:31:01,">>168200185
>First of all, there is no ""us""
>We aren't a united organisation, we're mutliple small groups of 5 who share the same online space
You need some degree of organisation to get anything done. Multiple small groups of 5 is still a community, and will be under scrutiny as such.
>try reading the other replies
I did read your posts. It seems that you want to use a Sigel rune either because it inspired Mosley or it inspired the SS logo (or both). For some reason you think this is a good idea, and don't care that literally everyone else looking inwards will say ""hey wait a minute that looks a bit Nazi-ish"" and immediately refrain from paying any attention to your ideology. How do you expect to get people to join your ""small groups of 5"" when they all think it's a neo-Nazi sect?
>Stop saying fascist and fashy like it's a bad thing
People think it's a bad thing, so avoid it if you want to convince those same people to have any positive reaction to your cause. This is so basic I don't see how you think it's not a problem.
Look, I am very much in favour of the idea behind what you're saying and I've been following your threads since the first one but I don't think this is the right way to do things, and it seems like you're not taking any criticism or ideas from anyone else, so I'm out.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523777461
168177183,168201493,2018-04-15 07:31:27,">>168201087
yeah thats me",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523777487
168177183,168201712,2018-04-15 07:34:23,">>168199776
Ok, tnx mate",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523777663
168177183,168201733,2018-04-15 07:34:46,I pity your shitty little lives.,,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523777686
168177183,168201892,2018-04-15 07:36:50,">>168201733
And yet here you are wasting your precious time on bunch of virgin loosers. Who's the real loser here ?",,Anonymous,1505907099371.jpg,V2hicbfP5oAjgzkpEbh9IA==,PL,,1523777810
168177183,168202098,2018-04-15 07:39:41,">>168201892
You. You fucking p**rcunt.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523777981
168177183,168202166,2018-04-15 07:40:44,">>168196487
This",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523778044
168177183,168202254,2018-04-15 07:42:08,">>168201465
>tl;dr- optics cuckery borne from a misunderstanding of what this is
And nothing of value was lost.
For the record, if anyone who took the time to read and digest the explanatory posts has any criticisms, i'm more then happy to hear them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523778128
168177183,168202298,2018-04-15 07:42:41,">>168201733
Hanna, this is literally about nothing more than creating social support networks for self-improvement. You can't oppose that without being antagonistic towards self-improvement itself. How's that working out for you?",,Anonymous,1518754584048.jpg,HNAoPrxNlB67injcyNeshw==,US,,1523778161
168177183,168202382,2018-04-15 07:43:43,">>168201892
>>168202298
Stop replying to the tripfag, it gives it an excuse to reply back.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523778223
168177183,168202447,2018-04-15 07:44:32,">>168202298
Look at the fucking state of your coping mechanisms. Kek. What a mess you are.",,Hanna Mayer,3452267890.png,YXcQTViXNKfn/eDSOveWhA==,GB,,1523778272
168177183,168202494,2018-04-15 07:45:04,">>168200310
Looks like a comic book symbol, to be honest.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523778304
168177183,168202509,2018-04-15 07:45:21,>tfw I'm the only redpilled person I know IRL,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523778321
168177183,168202680,2018-04-15 07:47:44,">>168202509
That's what we're here for.
Stick around, anon. Once the threads have large & consistent support, we'll be starting the initial meetups. There's bound to be at least 4 other people in your general area.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523778464
168177183,168202754,2018-04-15 07:48:41,">>168200310
American division symbol fixed. I'd prefer if the stars didn't have black lines around the outside",,Anonymous,USA Division.jpg,GxnpfMCXzJGY2zZzipkXOg==,GB,,1523778521
168177183,168202763,2018-04-15 07:48:50,">>168202254
Actually, I think optics does kind of matter. Not as a centralized movement, but in order to advertise the benefits of creating social support networks for self-improvement. It can be hard to put yourself out there and start a group of your own, and it could take a long time for someone else to ever invite you to their group, so it would help inspire people if they could see others' success stories.",,Anonymous,1513062861194.jpg,QulMIqNZ1LnYGNLwmNDoyw==,US,,1523778530
168177183,168202834,2018-04-15 07:50:04,Little dicked LARPers. You get no babies.,,Hanna Mayer,c2a4e371592c212392fcb7.jpg,XhDGzGxDf2eXttQAuQ+l1Q==,GB,,1523778604
168177183,168202902,2018-04-15 07:51:00,This is an extremely convoluted way to form and maintain normal friendships.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523778660
168177183,168202952,2018-04-15 07:51:43,">>168202447
Perhaps someday you will join us. When you're ready.",,Anonymous,3ecb044ba086e001a45208a5f968e13b94900fbf36b2f270892780ce236d4d20.jpg,xrSHhMx8Z9nwFL9+HNjl+g==,US,,1523778703
168177183,168203064,2018-04-15 07:53:12,I could fix Britain.,,Hanna Mayer,1443101718615.png,Z2lsV5Iqs7LbwYzGaBMZzQ==,GB,,1523778792
168177183,168203093,2018-04-15 07:53:38,">>168202254
I did read and digest your posts, and I have genuine criticisms, but you're just going to throw some buzzwords and dismiss me instead of actually addressing my points.
Honestly, good luck with this. We both know you won't get anything done but good luck.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523778818
168177183,168203128,2018-04-15 07:54:07,">>168202763
Getting the initial grops to form is what we're here to acheive. And i agree that optics matter as far as our personal images go, which is why half of the group's purpose (and near all of their initial stages) is about improving ourselves and making those successes.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523778847
168177183,168203294,2018-04-15 07:56:28,">>168202902
This is not about normal friendship. The point is to form a social network specifically to help each other improve in every aspect of life. It's about getting into great shape, strengthening your understanding of your worldview and politics to the point of being able to confidently defend it, helping each other achieve financial success, getting involved in the community as a group, etc. This is the antithesis of a passive relationship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523778988
168177183,168203339,2018-04-15 07:57:05,">posting Vanguard threads on a cambodian holiday flyer
>not doing Vanguard rallies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523779025
168177183,168203360,2018-04-15 07:57:21,">tfw the only redpilled person I met irl was a fucking boomer 3 days ago
he gave me his number after we talked about the jews for an hour",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1523779041
168177183,168203366,2018-04-15 07:57:28,">>168202902
That's because it's not merely about forming friendships, it's about forming networks and turning ourselves into dependable people in our local communities.
>>168203093
Clearly you didn't, otherwise you wouldn't be thinking ""We need Hierarchy! We need to think about how the media will view this!"" is a legitimate criticism of a purposefuly decentralised movement.
If you're going to go, just go.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523779048
168177183,168203411,2018-04-15 07:58:07,>britain is save-,,Hanna Mayer,download.jpg,PRQu98n6j+R+vvEBVqRJhQ==,GB,,1523779087
168177183,168203418,2018-04-15 07:58:20,We should meet at the gym. wear some specific shirt or something so it's easy to identify eachother,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523779100
168177183,168203498,2018-04-15 07:59:37,">>168203418
>fucking state of p**rcunt ideas
Implying I want you virgins ruining my work out.
Look for the hardest cunt in the gym, and you'll find me.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779177
168177183,168203539,2018-04-15 08:00:22,Don't ever fucking reply to my post ever again tripfaggot,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523779222
168177183,168203615,2018-04-15 08:01:25,">>168203539
Aww, poor baby :(",,Hanna Mayer,e3cd861a680245969ad0cc5078d20150.jpg,AxNOHf1tpWWC6EwGMl9Uig==,GB,,1523779285
168177183,168203647,2018-04-15 08:01:54,">Scotland is a Briti-
Dropped.",,Hanna Mayer,80b.jpg,v4bpQB5jUulCpHS60tibsw==,GB,,1523779314
168177183,168203737,2018-04-15 08:03:07,">>168203418
That's not a bad idea, anon. Groups meeting in the gym would have to make the plans a little in advance, so everyone could have time to buy a membership, but that's no problem.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523779387
168177183,168203759,2018-04-15 08:03:21,">>168203737
>That's not a bad idea,
Yes it is you fat cunts.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779401
168177183,168203787,2018-04-15 08:03:54,">The Falkland Islan-
Isla Malvinas, bitch.",,Hanna Mayer,"flat,800x800,075,t.u2.jpg",8JwUFk8Ut7606HsR+zXCPQ==,GB,,1523779434
168177183,168203808,2018-04-15 08:04:09,"Is this just for brits?
Are you guys like neonazis?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523779449
168177183,168203846,2018-04-15 08:04:37,"also the logo sorta looks like an SS thing
>for anyone using 4chanX
# Filter any tripfag
#/^!/
/^!!79VSbDzRxli$/",,Anonymous,1506332040830.jpg,wD1bp+zcdYSNnhcXMS7f3w==,US,,1523779477
168177183,168203856,2018-04-15 08:04:45,">>168177183
>If you’re still holding out for a leader, or a happening, or something that’ll take the burden of saving our nations off your own shoulders, then this is general is a must-read.
Sounds perfect for all brits since you don't even have a resistance party.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523779485
168177183,168203863,2018-04-15 08:04:50,>>168203615,,Anonymous,1519344307882.jpg,eT050LhUQw8jfa/RjhAJ1g==,GB,,1523779490
168177183,168203932,2018-04-15 08:05:59,Whiteboys ain't shit.,,Hanna Mayer,b18.jpg,WBATW+PFzzupYHGnF8KTxA==,GB,,1523779559
168177183,168203962,2018-04-15 08:06:22,">>168202509
>tfw I'm the only redpilled person I know, both online and IRL",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1523779582
168177183,168203966,2018-04-15 08:06:26,/^!!uAJ7vyM1KLu$/,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523779586
168177183,168203968,2018-04-15 08:06:27,">>168203856
These Brit pussies fear the masculinity and intellect of the German man.",,Hanna Mayer,DPQpeVHXUAEElUo.jpg,3hKdTQF5tHkmmJlisw3wrQ==,GB,,1523779587
168177183,168203992,2018-04-15 08:06:43,Awwwwwwwwww keep up :(,,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779603
168177183,168204071,2018-04-15 08:07:49,">168203992 (You)
/^!!76klWZslk3a$/",,Anonymous,1496025183929.png,KhFff4aoymrtD6hyqEqH4Q==,US,,1523779669
168177183,168204075,2018-04-15 08:07:53,BRITS OUT.,,Hanna Mayer,36381752c5f25bc70ff77b27123aaffb.jpg,5qSHGPZz3o/iunogSC069g==,GB,,1523779673
168177183,168204079,2018-04-15 08:07:54,">>168203968
Tripfags aren't welcome here.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523779674
168177183,168204104,2018-04-15 08:08:15,">>168177183
We've got a group slowly working towards the sort of networking you desire. Discord invite is 4sJYbP",,Anonymous,tenor.gif,QT3MP+YESZ+MnOXKwjmpXg==,GB,,1523779695
168177183,168204106,2018-04-15 08:08:17,">>168203808
Not just for Brits, no. And neo-nazi is an oxymoron, but yes, this is a nationalist vanguard.
>>168203846
It's the Sigel rune, which the SS sed for their logo, although that isn't the context of its use here (in fact the design is more based on the flash and circle).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523779697
168177183,168204131,2018-04-15 08:08:42,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhxhr7IsKjg
Go on home British soldiers, go on home
Have you got no fucking homes of your own
For 800 years we've fought you without fear
And we'll fight you for 800 more
If you stay British soldiers, if you stay
You'll never ever beat the ira
For the 14 men in Derry
Are the last that you will bury
So take a tip, and leave us bloody be
So go on home British Soldiers, go on home
Have you got no fucking homes of your own
For 800 years we've fought you without fear
And we will fight you for 800 more
We're not British, we're not Saxon, we're not English
We're Irish and proud we are to be
So fuck your Union Jack, we want our country back
We want to see old Ireland free once more
So go on home British soldiers, go on home
Have you got no fucking homes of your own
For 800 years we've fought you without fear
And we will fight you for 800 more
We'll fight them British soldiers for the cause
We'll never bow to soldiers because
Troughout our history, we were born to be free
So get out British bastards leave us be
So go on home British soldiers, go on home
Have you got no fucking homes of your own
For 800 years we've fought you without fear
And we will fight you for 800 more
Go on home British soldiers, go on home
Have you got no fucking homes of your own
For 800 years we've fought you without fear
And we will fight you for 800 more",,Hanna Mayer,gaddafi-and-the-ira-did-nothing-wrong_o_7167714.jpg,fT90fTSjeGAvLZNgBeMZyQ==,GB,,1523779722
168177183,168204161,2018-04-15 08:09:03,">>168204079
Shut the fuck up kek. I go where I want.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779743
168177183,168204164,2018-04-15 08:09:09,">>168203968
>23 posts by this id
I hate to use normie memes but this is cringy.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523779749
168177183,168204166,2018-04-15 08:09:10,These logos are all fucking JPEGs. Recreate them and save them as PNG vector graphics or SVGs so we can have some high quality images. Just zooming in on them shows how lower quality they are.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523779750
168177183,168204194,2018-04-15 08:09:46,"Chapter 1 The way we live
Chapter 2 A highly adaptable animal
Chapter 3 Class in society
Chapter 4 Socialism as we see it
Chapter 5 How to achieve socialism
1. The Way We Live
What happens when we wake up in the morning? Most of us have to get up and go to work. We may decide that we would rather lie in for an hour or so and dream of going on a world cruise. But the dictatorship of the alarm clock reminds us that dreaming will not pay the bills. Ideas of world cruises must give way to the reality of getting to work.
If we go to work by bus or train, we must buy a ticket. No money for the ticket and there will be no ride to work, even if the bus or train is half empty. Millions of workers set out by car. The roads are congested at the beginning of the working day with anxious men and women who cannot afford to be late. Very often there is one person in a car which could provide transport for four. Driving to work through the big city produces tense, angry, frustrated people, many of whom do not want to go where they are going, most of whom cannot afford not to.
We arrive at work. Some of us are employed to do useful work: farming, manufacturing essential goods, attending to the sick, performing music, driving buses and trains, teaching children how to read. Others of us do useless, destructive or antisocial work for our wage or salary. Soldiers are employed for the purpose of killing other human beings in time of war. Munitions workers are employed to build weapons of destruction. Sales promoters are employed to persuade people to buy what they may not really need or be able to afford. Servants are employed to look after people who are quite fit and capable of looking after themselves. None of these jobs is necessary to the smooth running of a sane society. We could all live without them.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779786
168177183,168204205,2018-04-15 08:09:59,">>168204164
>you guys have no life
>most posts in the thread
hmmmm",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523779799
168177183,168204209,2018-04-15 08:10:02,"For very many people the working day is something to be got through as quickly as possible, It is not that they are lazy, but the jobs that they are doing give them little or no personal satisfaction. Even potentially interesting jobs are often unpleasant because of the way in which it is necessary to be deferential to a boss or to skimp on quality work so that your employer can get as much as possible from you for the wage he is paying. Many people go home from their employment to work very hard on pursuits they find interesting and useful. It is not the work they dislike, but employment.
On the way home from work we may buy an evening paper. It will contain all sorts of trivia to take our minds off the stress of employment. But we may also read certain facts about the world we live in. We may read that food is being destroyed due to “overproduction” while millions are starving because they lack the money to buy that food. We may read that scientific advance now makes it possible to transport organs such as hearts and kidneys but that most technological research is devoted to the design of new weapons. We may read on the one hand of politicians saying that workers are not being productive enough, and on the other hand of economists saying that unemployment is necessary because the factories are producing more goods than there is a market for. Many of us conclude that we are living in a society that needs to be changed. But most people believe that it is best left to politicians to make the changes.
In the pub or social club at the weekend we can hear all kinds of ideas being expressed, many of them picked up from the newspapers or television. We can listen to the nationalist who announces that he is proud to be British.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779802
168177183,168204228,2018-04-15 08:10:19,"Yet 80 per cent of people in Britain own less wealth between them than the richest one per cent. Those who speak of “our country” usually have little more than a rent book or a mortgage to show for it. Then we can listen to racists who will blame problems on blacks or Asians or Eastern European immigrants. Their racism arises from fear that someone else is competing with them for housing or jobs. We can meet sexists who believe that a “woman’s place is in the home” or that men are inherently aggressive. We can meet men and women who believe that their lives are being manipulated by an invisible god who lives above the clouds. We can meet people who talk about socialism and then point to China or the former Soviet dictatorship in Russia as examples. All these views are very common indeed. Those who oppose them are often called cranks or utopians.
It is hardly surprising that many people cannot cope with the tensions of this society without turning to drink, drugs or suicide. Others suffer in silence. Most fear crime, and the possibility of losing their job. They must always reach deep into their pockets to pay for the basic necessities of life. One in a million wins the Lottery and escapes from the treadmill of being a worker. Most of us do not. We must either work for an employer for a wage of a salary or beg from the state. We are wage slaves.
2. A Highly Adaptable Animal
Compared with a lion, a gorilla, or even a horse, the human animal is weak, slow and defenceless. And yet homosapiens has become the dominant species of the planet. Our species developed none of the specialist attributes that have fitted other creatures so perfectly for their environments.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779819
168177183,168204248,2018-04-15 08:10:35,"Physiologically, we have hardly evolved at all since we became a distinct species. Whereas other species have evolved to fit their environments and the available food supplies, human beings have remained unspecialised, but very adaptable. Instead of their bodies altering to suit their environments humans have altered their environments to suit themselves.
Human beings spread across the surface of the planet, occupying tropical rain forests, deserts, temperate regions and even Arctic ice. They lived upon virtually every type of food possible, from seal fat to tropical fruits and desert insects. And from this variety of life-patterns arose wide differences in knowledge, beliefs, attitudes, feelings and behaviour. Almost every conceivable kind of belief and behaviour has been adopted by some human beings at some time somewhere. Although we are one species, from the jungle of New Guinea to the streets of New York, the inhabitants of different places may think and act in quite dissimilar ways. And yet a baby, carried across the world from New Guinea to New York and brought up there, could become a complete New Yorker, with the accent, the food preferences, the personal habits, the love of baseball and the Stars and Stripes and the average tendency towards obesity, heart disease, divorce and crime. The basic animal is the same, but all key behaviour patterns are shaped by the society in which the child is brought up.
Making a Living
But if societies mould individuals, different types of society are themselves shaped by a number of external factors",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779835
168177183,168204263,2018-04-15 08:10:51,"as well as by the activities of individuals and classes of people within them. The basic needs of the human animal are, like those of any other mammal, food, drink, warmth and sex; but these needs have not been easily met. For most of human existence the lives of the great majority have been dominated by scarcity. The methods of making a living from the land and sea have therefore been the major influences upon the sorts of lives people have led, the types of society that have been formed, and the attitudes and behaviour of the members of those societies.
The development of gathering roots and fruits, organised hunting and fishing, the growth of herding with its nomadic pattern of life, the emergence of agriculture, encouraging settlements, and the growth of towns and cities – all this has repeatedly modified relationships within societies. It has modified the material conditions of life and led to the accumulation of riches for some and poverty for others. The discovery and utilisation of metals, and the development of more and more complex tools and machines have often gone hand to hand with progress in methods of making a living, increasing the amount of wealth produced per head of the population many times over; but the benefits of these improvements have not been shared by all members of society.
After the rise of settled townships on an agricultural base in Mesopotamia, trade between localities developed; for the first time the product of hands and brains took on an alien life as commodities to be bartered, and then bought with that abstract commodity, money. Property, realised at the boundaries between tribes, began to impinge within. Laws of inheritance were formulated and the first property society developed when people came to be bought and sold as slaves. Chattel slavery gave way t",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779851
168177183,168204269,2018-04-15 08:10:55,">>168204104
>Discord
I'll give it a pass, but it's good to know there's already some people coming together for things like this. I'll be posting these threads every day if any of you gys want to pop in, and once we're large enough to get going we'll be starting /soc/ colonies and setting up a more dedicated & permanent online base.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523779855
168177183,168204282,2018-04-15 08:11:08,"to capitalism; and still all the land and factories and mines and transport are owned by a small minority of the population, who make the laws to protect their wealth, and employ the majority to work for them.
Employers and Employees
The fundamental division between workers and employers in the structure of modern society affects all the relationships within it. It affects feelings, attitudes, beliefs, and has a fundamental effect upon the personality of every individual. The child brought up in a family owning a few million shares, a few thousand acres, and four or five houses to live in has a completely different outlook on life from that of the child brought up in the average factory or office worker’s semi-detached house on a housing estate.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779868
168177183,168204296,2018-04-15 08:11:18,"Nice 4chan gold account Hanna
# Filter a specific ID:
#/Txhvk1Tl/
/Xms6en6A/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523779878
168177183,168204305,2018-04-15 08:11:25,"Contradictory Values
This, therefore, is the atmosphere in which most children grow up. We are born essentially the same living beings are our ancestors of thousands of years ago; but we learn to think and feel and act from what goes on around us at an early age. From school, the newspapers and television, we take in the knowledge of the world’s hunger and disease. At other times we learn that “butter mountains” are being piled up, milk poured down quarries, wheat burned, or crops ploughed back into the ground. We may not bring these facts together in our mind to raise questions about the system by which society is run – indeed we are actually discouraged by the schools and the media from doing so. Instead we are persuaded to believe that the present organisation of society is eternal – even divinely ordained – and that it is ordinary people like ourselves with our selfishness, laziness and greed, who are to blame. And so, unresolved, these contradictions remain at the back of our mind, causing confusion, frustration, and a vague sense of guilty helplessness.
At school and at home we are repeatedly told that kindliness, co-operation and constructiveness are the guidelines of good social behaviour; but the films about war, robbery and violent crime that form one of television’s staple diets teach very different lessons: there are always “baddies” against whom violence is not only justified but necessary and even enjoyable – terrorists, Nazis, Apaches, criminals, mad scientists, Martians, agitators, Russian spies, and so on.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779885
168177183,168204323,2018-04-15 08:11:41,"We are taught that hard work and thrift are the recipe for success in our future “career”; and then occasionally we see members of society’s owning class in the news, who never do a day’s proper work in their lives and spend money like water, playing at foxhunting on their ten thousand acre estates, or racing ocean-going yachts, or shooting grouse on their Scottish moors, while our hard-working, thrifty parents get worn out before our eyes with years of work and worry. Our potential for behaving with affection, generosity, trust and creativity is made to seem naive and ridiculous up against the power of wealth in a society of ruthless competition.
There are many different reactions to the disillusionment (sometimes called “maturity”) that this causes, and none of them is good for the individual. The commonest, because it avoids conflict with authority and the forces of law and order, is an almost complete refusal to be concerned with the problems of society. Workers who take this line silently or openly admit that they cannot make sense of what goes on: and they absorb themselves energetically in their darts team or football supporters club, hobby or garden, trying to remain unaffected by the drudgery of their daily job, or the threats of unemployment or nuclear war. Others look for scapegoats to blame: black people (if they are white), white people (if they are black), men (if they are women), Asians, Jews, atheists, trade unionists, and so on. The fashions change from time to time.
Still others become completely cynical, turning to crime or something close to it, in an attempt to beat the system and to get hold of the only thing which seems to have any value – money. The use of anti-depressants and tranquillisers is widespread and the number of people who receive psychiatric treatment at some time in their lives has risen rapidly.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779901
168177183,168204341,2018-04-15 08:11:57,"We behave like this because we are forced to live under conflicting pressures which, as individuals, we do not have the power to resolve.
All of us, whether we remain relatively sane or not, are inevitably contaminated by the social values that provide the real motive power of capitalist society. In many ways the urgent, relentless drive to make profits, which can be reinvested as capital to make yet more profit, regardless of human need or suffering, is the essence of avarice or greed, yet it is the essence of modern society. The very structure of capitalism, in which the minority own and control all the means of producing and distributing wealth – and employ all the powers of the state to preserve their monopoly – has placed insecurity and self-interest at the very foundations of society. None of us can fail to be affected by it.
Yet, adaptable as we are, we cannot completely fit the pattern that modern capitalism demands, because it is inconsistent and, at times, directly contradictory. Articles and advertisements regularly appear in magazines and newspapers explaining how we can become rich by setting up in business and applying “hard headed” (ruthless) business principles. But when workers, especially those organised in trade unions, apply such principles in wage negotiations there is a chorus of condemnation from the press. We hear, only too often, that “there is no sentiment in business”; but as workers we are exhorted equally often to be “loyal” to the company we work for. Modern wars are fought over power and wealth – as becomes only too clear when the truth comes out afterwards – but they are always presented to the working class as fights for freedom of one sort or another, in order to persuade us to risk our lives in killing workers from other countries.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779917
168177183,168204363,2018-04-15 08:12:14,"This inconsistency is inevitable. Capitalist society is not a collection of individuals with common interests and a common set of guiding principles. It is a society deeply divided, at odds with itself. Class conflict was built into its foundations and shows up every day in its workings. To criticise workers as being selfish, greedy, uncooperative, deceitful, violent, when these are the main characteristics of the nations and the businesses with which we are compelled to be involved all our lives, is to add insult to two hundred years of injury. Certainly these are anti-social forms of behaviour; but then this is an inhuman social system. As long as we, its working class majority, allow it to continue, we can expect nothing better.
3. Class In Society
It is common for people to think that society has always been organised in much the same way as it is now. Throughout history people have looked at the past and seen it in terms of the present. The features of our present system of society, therefore, are seen by many as being “natural” things have always been this way and they always will be. But the one constant of history is that everything changes. We live as we do today as a result of a long process of social evolution. Yesterday’s norms are today’s anachronisms.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779934
168177183,168204383,2018-04-15 08:12:31,"Earlier Systems of Society
We do not know exactly how long ago human beings evolved from other species. But the evidence suggests that modern man appeared some 40-60,000 years ago. For most of that time people lived communally, through hunting and gathering. For many thousands of years there was no private property, no money, no working for wages, no stock exchange and no class divisions. People lived with and for one another. It was a system of what has often been termed ‘primitive communism’.
Private property emerged as human beings increased their control over the environment. With the development of agriculture and the production of surpluses came the concept of ownership. The state then came about to defend private property, conferring legal rights of ownership upon individuals and giving them the power to defend their rights by the use of force. Along with the emergence of property came the division of society into classes too. The first class to achieve dominance was the slave-owning class. Men and women were captured in tribal battles and then put to work as the possessions of particular individuals. Slavery, at the time, was considered natural and inevitable.
Feudalism was then strengthened and expanded in Britain with the 11th century Norman Conquest. In the feudal economy all land was nominally owned by the King. The King granted lands to his tenants-in-chief, the aristocracy, and they in return had to give military service to him and pay customary dues which comprised a percentage of their wealth.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779951
168177183,168204394,2018-04-15 08:12:41,">>168204296
This gy does the same thing in brit/pol/ threads. The mods should already know the score if enough people report for spam.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523779961
168177183,168204397,2018-04-15 08:12:47,"Not only did the feudal aristocracy and the church own most of the land, but they controlled the men and women who lived and worked on it. The landlords had their own courts, they levied taxes and exacted services from their serfs and, in times of war, they ordered their subjects to fight their battles. The power of the feudal lord depended on the amount of land he owned and the number of peasants he could control. Peasants had feudal obligations to their landlords: they either had to work on his land for a certain length of time each week or else they had to give him a portion of their produce in return for living on his land. Either way, the landlord received his wealth without having to work, while the toilers received just about enough to keep themselves and their families alive.
Every feudal manor had common land which the peasants had access to in order to provide for their own needs. Capitalist social relations emerged with the expropriation of this common land by the aristocracy in the 15th and 16th centuries. The lands were enclosed to be used for sheep farming rather than arable cultivation. One reason for this was that the new Flemish woollen industry made sheep more profitable tenants than peasants. Enclosure destroyed the lives of thousands of peasant families, turning them into propertyless vagabonds. In his famous work Capital, dealing with the ""primitive accumulation of capital"", Karl Marx wrote:
The fathers of the present working class were chastised for their enforced transformation into vagabonds and paupers. Legislation treated them as ""voluntary"" criminals and assumed that it depended on their own goodwill to go on working under the old conditions that no longer existed.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779967
168177183,168204422,2018-04-15 08:13:04,">>168191002
Agreed.
And also great project. I'm in.
As a guy who's both socially comfortable and socially successful, charismatic, etc. I've managed to speak to a whole bunch of people regarding this struggle we are facing in our world today; everything from redpilling girlfriends to friends and aquaintances. 
I have friends who, when they see the truth, shut themselves in and adapt a defeatist mentality; it's a trap which leads down a road of unemployment and depression. 
We need to stop being sorry for our beliefs, and rather realise that the core of our beliefs are the only logical ones. Arguing from the only objectivity which exists in this world rhetorically, which is reason. I think many people would be surprised how well it actually works; at least with folks who have not yet been completely bought over by either (((side))).
When are we making a chat-room? Discord, IRC, etc.?",,Anonymous,23380377_524304541279832_3707499122158078022_n.png,aYmj2V97gThinhGBM0EMcA==,NO,,1523779984
168177183,168204425,2018-04-15 08:13:06,">>168204394
The mods work for me sweetheart. Shit/pol/ bows to me.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523779986
168177183,168204439,2018-04-15 08:13:19,how do we kill the hambeast?,,Anonymous,1506722003141.png,A46/Emsn8b8qkv90LbhY3Q==,US,,1523779999
168177183,168204477,2018-04-15 08:13:48,"Such a right, whether in a private enterprise-type capitalism, or in state capitalism, is not obtained by merit, or virtue or hard work. Indeed, many capitalists have never been inside the factories or offices that they own. And they do not need to, for they live off the surplus derived from exploiting wage labour without ever having to do work themselves.
Exploitation means that workers receive in the form of wages or salaries less than the value of the goods and services they produce. It is this unpaid labour of the working class which, taking a monetary form, is the source of the wealth and privileged income of the capitalist class. In the private enterprise economy this income takes the form of rent, interest and profit, while under state-run capitalism it tends to take the form of hugely bloated ""salaries"", bonuses, special privileges such as imported luxuries, and a whole variety of payments in kind. In both varieties of capitalism the essential features are the same: a class monopoly of the means of producing wealth, the operation of a wages system, production of goods and services for sale and profit, and the further accumulation of capital out of this profit.
Production for profit in capitalism means that human needs will invariably come second to the need to obtain a profit. If food cannot be produced with an expectation of profit it will not be produced at all or, if it is produced and then cannot be sold at a profit, it will be stockpiled, dumped or destroyed. In India, where millions are perpetually hungry, soldiers are employed",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780028
168177183,168204495,2018-04-15 08:14:07,"Class Struggle
Capitalism also generates conflict. It makes workers compete against one another and often divides them into competing groups. But the main conflict in capitalist society is between the class interests of the capitalists and the class interests of the workers. These interests are essentially antagonistic. The capitalists, who directly or indirectly control the media, the education system and the major political parties, try to camouflage this conflict. They pretend that there are no classes, that we are all one national family, that we are all in our rightful places, that buying and selling, working for wages and production for profit are as natural as the sun and the moon. Many people believe them, but experience does not support this belief, for historically workers have had to respond to their class condition by forming trade unions to negotiate with their employers over the price of the mental and physical energies they sell. This is a necessary defensive measure, but a severely limited one. To leave all the productive machinery in the hands of the capitalist class and then to demand higher wages and better conditions of employment from that class is to negotiate from a position of permanent weakness. It is to negotiate about the terms of exploitation rather than to strive to end it.
The class struggle is not a romantic battle which is entered into by heroic warriors, as self-styled ""left-wingers"" like to imagine. In fact, we are all in the class struggle whether we like it or not. Every time we moan in the pub about unemployment going up, complain to our neighbours that the mortgage payments or rent have increased, or we decide to go on strike or hold a public meeting to air a grievance, we are responding to our class condition. Every time a politician or industrialist calls for greater productivity or repressive laws designed to maintain ‘order’, they too are participating in the class struggle – on the other side.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780047
168177183,168204506,2018-04-15 08:14:20,">>168204296
shills actually support the site financially to do their thing?",,Anonymous,hmm.png,ZX501gxcCGD1xRXVloJceA==,FI,,1523780060
168177183,168204543,2018-04-15 08:14:53,">>168204506
>shills
Fucking state of Anonymong investigatory skills",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780093
168177183,168204570,2018-04-15 08:15:26,">Britain isn't dead
Fucking state of sub 140-IQs kek.",,Hanna Mayer,703x.jpg,+7Y97S1NzS+6kf7nM2stKw==,GB,,1523780126
168177183,168204577,2018-04-15 08:15:29,">>168204506
You have to pay hirosimoot to post that fast.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523780129
168177183,168204618,2018-04-15 08:16:02,">>168204577
Or... it's a bot. Ask Shit/pol/ ;)",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780162
168177183,168204643,2018-04-15 08:16:23,">>168204506
Who's say's Hiroshimoot isn't working for (((them)))?",,Anonymous,Making_you_think.png,0zTJ0iB9fQOAQhdsEa20vw==,GB,,1523780183
168177183,168204655,2018-04-15 08:16:35,">>168204422
Thanks for the support, anon!
This is only the fourth thread, although at the rate it's going the 5th should be out today as well. If we can keep this progress going consistently for a while, i'll be setting up an 8 board as a more permanent & dedicated hub; we'll either be arranging the meetups there, or on /soc/ colonies.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523780195
168177183,168204656,2018-04-15 08:16:35,"Rizon #vanguardism
if you aren't into discord",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523780195
168177183,168204657,2018-04-15 08:16:36,">>168204643
He works for me.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780196
168177183,168204678,2018-04-15 08:16:52,">>168204656
Shut the fuck up.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780212
168177183,168204739,2018-04-15 08:17:41,Owned.,,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780261
168177183,168204815,2018-04-15 08:18:41,">>168200910
Canada",,Anonymous,Canadian Division.png,4sOQlep+R9NalSX9IgJFOA==,GB,,1523780321
168177183,168204862,2018-04-15 08:19:24,">>168204815
State of that logo mate.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780364
168177183,168204871,2018-04-15 08:19:31,">>168200910
New Zealand",,Anonymous,New Zealand Division.png,iEoWERyniYkHito4dzprFA==,GB,,1523780371
168177183,168204902,2018-04-15 08:20:00,">>168204871
That's awful.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780400
168177183,168204920,2018-04-15 08:20:18,">>168204871
>>168204815
>>168200910
good logos anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523780418
168177183,168205070,2018-04-15 08:22:36,">>168204871
>>168204815
Do you have these in a higher resolution? 800x800 is smaller than ur cock, m8. 
Recreate it from scratch and export it at 3000x3000.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523780556
168177183,168205215,2018-04-15 08:24:32,">>168177183
I don't have any faith in the values of the average member of this board, but seeing as radicals on the left are already organizing in a similar manner I'll offer some advice:
-Avoid criminal activity. Keep your local groups clean of unsavory people.
-Avoid competing with established political parties, rather attempt to make yourself an affiliate. Use local connections to influence candidate selection an perhaps propose some of your own if you have that level of influence.
-Organize charity events, social gatherings, and encourage networking. People need to be aware of you, so demonstrate where you can.
-Establish a clear and concrete platform, look at what's happening in your community, follow professional opinions and establish your own solutions
-organize LOCALLY, not nationally, especially if in first past the post electoral systems
-REPEAT: do not compete with existing parties until they are dependent upon you.
Let me be clear though, I expect jack shit to happen from these threads. At best you reach one or two people who actually do something.
P.S. - Encourage people who demonstrate proof of what they're doing. Discourage people who make asses of themselves.",,Anonymous,gendum.jpg,hV2Yaoo8lMsDynQiCqq6ow==,US,,1523780672
168177183,168205229,2018-04-15 08:24:38,">>168204920
They're shit.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780678
168177183,168205243,2018-04-15 08:24:54,">Just making logos
Literally the least productive thing you could be doing to help your movement",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523780694
168177183,168205250,2018-04-15 08:25:06,">>168205215
>-Avoid criminal activity.
Dropped. Lmfao. P**rcunt.",,Hanna Mayer,Laughing 2.jpg,asLnakyFI0s/9sRYkBrvFw==,GB,,1523780706
168177183,168205362,2018-04-15 08:26:33,">>168205070
We're just working on basic designs right now, anon. If you've got the skills you could edit them into a higher quality format.
>>168205243
Just making logos RIGHT NOW. These threads are here to drum up interest in the concept, once we've got that we can start organising the initial meetups.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523780793
168177183,168205378,2018-04-15 08:26:49,">>168204655
Don't you think that's a little too public? If people are going to disclose their locations, and arrange meetups, forcing them to do so someplace where anyone might be watching sounds like it might be a turnoff for the more easily spooked among us.",,Anonymous,1503227378438.jpg,tKQhazWcUvsoTaJ8vg9zSg==,NO,,1523780809
168177183,168205383,2018-04-15 08:26:53,">>168205362
>once we've got that we can start organising the initial meetups.
t. serial killer",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780813
168177183,168205404,2018-04-15 08:27:09,">>168205378
Shut the fuck up lol. You're ruining our LARP.",,Hanna Mayer,,,GB,,1523780829
168177183,168205473,2018-04-15 08:28:10,">>168204815
>>168204871
>>168200310
>>168199535
>>168177183
One more thing:
Using a universal iconography or platform amongst all of these efforts is a tremendously bad idea.
Vanguard parties in communist movements across western democracies failed precisely because they pushed a generic platform of communism instead of solutions tailored to their environment.
Establishing a single set of ideas or images both ignores practical solutions and allows detractors a clear and obvious enemy faction to discredit and misrepresent.
You're better off giving each other loose ideas and inspiration instead of platform points.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523780890
168177183,168205595,2018-04-15 08:29:56,">>168204656
>>168204656
>>168204656
I'm so ronrey",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523780996
168177183,168205680,2018-04-15 08:31:18,">>168205250
>tripfag acts like a dipshit
Figures. Criminal groups are always going to be ineffective so long as you operate in a country with strong rule of law.
You might get away with starting shit in the Weimar, Italy in the 60's and 70's, or modern Greece and Venezuela, but if you act like an ass in a law abiding country, have fun with your lifelong prison sentence.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523781078
168177183,168205807,2018-04-15 08:32:43,">>168205680
Shut up you terminal virgin.",,Hanna Mayer,"flat,800x800,075,f.jpg",zxVdzymipRi3T1veVnkVzA==,GB,,1523781163
168177183,168205846,2018-04-15 08:33:09,There is yet hope,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523781189
168177183,168205867,2018-04-15 08:33:24,">>168205362
>Drum up interest by making BUF knock-offs for every country
Yeah, real fucking interesting.
How about you plan the actual substance of your movement?
When people start meeting up (assuming you ever get that far) they will have no idea what to do. Start planning that sort of stuff instead of making logos. Nobody gives a fuck right now because there’s nothig to be interested in.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523781204
168177183,168205926,2018-04-15 08:34:22,"IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING THE THREAD
>IF YOU'RE JUST JOINING THE THREAD
# Filter any namefags:
#/^(?!Anonymous$)/
/^Hanna Mayer$/
# Filter a specific ID:
#/Txhvk1Tl/
/Xms6en6A/
# Filter any tripfag
#/^!/
/^!!79VSbDzRxli$/
/^!!uAJ7vyM1KLu$/
/^!!76klWZslk3a$/
/^!!81d3WvAyDCg$/
/^!!u0soNe66XiG$/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523781262
168177183,168205964,2018-04-15 08:35:02,">>168205378
""some place where anyone might be watching"" is pretty much anywhere desu.
But that's the beautiful part of the plan- what exactly is the government going to do once they're in? Expose the group for regular gym attendance and reading sessions?
It's self-improvement and community building. If the government says that the ideology behind it makes it bad and tries to act, they're going to have one hell of a time enforcing the ban on multiple, separate groups; and it'll redpill any onlookers, that the government's going after people trying to self-improve because they think it's a dangerous ideology.
>>168205473
Don't respond to the tripfag, it's how it feeds itself.
And you've pretty much summed up what we're trying to do, anon- the groups of 5 will be completely separate from each other, aimed only at improving themselves and their community, with our online prescence acting only as an informal network.
The logos aren't representing the whole group, because there is no whole group.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523781302
168177183,168206039,2018-04-15 08:36:07,">>168205867
I thought you were leaving.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523781367
168177183,168206129,2018-04-15 08:37:23,You broke motherfuckers kek.,,Hanna Mayer,"flat,800x800,070,f.jpg",GQTV8BJL4MG0JufdPzY9EQ==,GB,,1523781443
168177183,168206159,2018-04-15 08:37:45,">>168205867
>how about you plan the actual substance of your movement
And still, you've learned nothing.
There is NO central movement, that is the whole point.
Is this your attempt at trying to prove you had somehting valid to say? That fucking backfired, didn't it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523781465
168177183,168206181,2018-04-15 08:38:07,"OP, get in rizon #vanguardism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523781487
168177183,168206363,2018-04-15 08:40:53,">>168177213
>>Start cooking together
I like you /pol/, but you're not getting my secret chicky tendy recipe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523781653
168177183,168206397,2018-04-15 08:41:27,">>168206159
>There is NO substance
Okay great, fixed that for you.
Doesn’t matter if there’s no central movement. From the looks of it you’re going to have a central website with no information on it, and people meeting up to do fuck all.
You have no idea what you’re doing, can’t articulate your ideas properly, can’t take any criticism or ideas, and keep just saying “Yeah I’ll sort that out later, just want to make flags right now”. How do you aim to improve anyone’s lives if you can’t be fucked to get this sorted?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523781687
168177183,168206469,2018-04-15 08:42:30,It's akin to what some right wing French youtubers are promoting (on Le Rendez-Vous Dissident for example),,Anonymous,raptor.jpg,ie07ASWmxxe6oVPIUN4pjQ==,FR,,1523781750
168177183,168206518,2018-04-15 08:43:14,">>168177183
I know we have seen many of these come and go but i do like the idea of the small group thing. Thats something you can't infiltrate, its literally just improving yourself.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523781794
168177183,168206537,2018-04-15 08:43:29,posting in a larp thread with shit versions of the flash and circle,,Anonymous,larp.jpg,WALYk6drB+GaBMFOnHsRsQ==,GB,,1523781809
168177183,168206543,2018-04-15 08:43:37,">>168206397
How many flags have i been making, dumbass? Nice strawman, but other people actually participating isn't a problem, let alone mine.
Go be assmad about failing to concern troll somewhere else.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523781817
168177183,168206752,2018-04-15 08:46:24,">>168206518
Exactly. An online hub for communication between the groups, and other then that, just local community building. Nothing that anyone would get agnry or upset about, and if governemnts start to, people will start to ask why.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523781984
168177183,168207069,2018-04-15 08:50:42,">>168206543
Making flags is not productive
Saying “let’s just self-improve! Become active members of the community!” is not productive.
You’re not planning anything, you’re not saying what to do, you’re offering no substance.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523782242
168177183,168207183,2018-04-15 08:52:19,">>168206752
>>168206543
>>168206537
>>168206518
>>168206469
>>168206397
>>168206363
>>168206181
>>168206159
>>168206129
>>168206039
>>168205964
>>168205926
>>168205867
>>168205846
I just wanted to share this with you guys:
Its in their blood
Germans are triggered yelling ""Sieg Heil"" 28 Years after the downfall:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46QYGsf9IGs [Embed]
Germans are triggered yelling ""Sieg Heil"" - 69 years after reich
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOla8S-xG8Y [Embed]
you only have to reactivate it it seems.
It's from another thread, not gonna link it, that'd be advertising.
>post yfw Hitler is still a crowd-influencer over 70 years after his death",,Anonymous,Natsoc_Nazi_Hitler_Leaning_Back_Smug_Laugh_Tooth_Braces.gif,MAc2pp2t+QG5/fqjNW19JA==,DE,,1523782339
168177183,168207199,2018-04-15 08:52:33,">>168207069
You have to spread the idea before it can manifest into reality, anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523782353
168177183,168207322,2018-04-15 08:54:16,"Wew, this thread is depressing.
Even if they seem kiked, just join IB or Identity Evropa,
one can always subvert the movement to other causes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523782456
168177183,168207475,2018-04-15 08:56:18,">>168207199
Please explain the aims of this idea.
Please explain how you will achieve these aims.
Please explain your end goals.
Neither of you can because you don’t know what you’re doing or how to achieve what you want.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523782578
168177183,168207541,2018-04-15 08:57:08,">>168207069
>Making flags is not productive
you didn't answer the question, how many have i been making
>Saying ""let's just improve! become active members of the community!"" is not productive
which i why i put the immediate goals in the OP, well done for demonstrating that you haven't read it. Again.
>you're not planning anything
because there aren't enough people to plan anything yet
>you're not saying what to do
2 posts, right at the top of the page, not that hard to find...
>You're offering no substance
becase of course, you're being nothing but productive.
Again- go be assmad about failing to concern troll somewhere else. Maybe your own thread, if you're so desperate to lead something.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523782628
168177183,168207587,2018-04-15 08:57:44,">>168207069
If you want personal advice for what YOU ought to do (WE shouldn't be doing anything, unless in the same area, and I would doubt anyone is willing to share that kind of personal information over 4chan), I can give you some.
Volunteer with your party of choice, and get to know some people. Develop those connections on a personal level, but don't try to talk them into anything initially.
Get together with popular social groups, find some people who are willing to start something.
Do lots of volunteer work.
Help people with their campaigns.
Expand your network.
Once you have a large enough network, try to formalize things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523782664
168177183,168207702,2018-04-15 08:59:04,">>168207475
my personal ideas for what the aims should be:
>prevent young white men from being cuck-boys
>help young white men be positive about their future
>prevent young white men from having the highest suicide rates 
>promote brotherhood and self-improvement
how will we achieve this:
>get young white men to collectivize
>get young white men to improve their own situations
>give young white men positive role models
end goals:
>retake our countries
any questions?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523782744
168177183,168207859,2018-04-15 09:01:07,">>168207587
>>168207702
Thanks for doing OP’s job for him.
A step in the right direction",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523782867
168177183,168207993,2018-04-15 09:02:42,">>168207859
Can you stop concern-trolling now? The movement is still *very* young and the ideas aren't fleshed out. This is supposed to be a thread for building ideas",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523782962
168177183,168208137,2018-04-15 09:04:38,">>168207993
I’ve been saying to do just that.
Stop calling me a “concern-troll” for trying to actually get you to focus on fleshing out ideas.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523783078
168177183,168208242,2018-04-15 09:06:05,">>168207993
He's just mad because we wouldn't make his horsey into a symbol for him. He represents the kind of optics cuckery that crashed the alt-right in the first place, the central organisation we're deliberatly avoiding to focus on building up local bases. Learning to walk before we can run, so to speak.
He knows that, since all the information about what we're trying to do and how we'll start to do it is in the OP. He's just being obtuse.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523783165
168177183,168208291,2018-04-15 09:06:37,">>168208137
You could submit some of your own ideas instead of just acting like ""ahh it'll never work you idiots don't have any real ideas anyway""
that's the only reason I say you're concern trolling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523783197
168177183,168208322,2018-04-15 09:07:02,">>168207541
Anon, you seem like a like-minded person.
Now, you may want to get some irl action, and I'd like to see that happen too, but we are on 4chan here.
Most anons here are pretty lazy.
What we can capitalize on is the potetnial for autism and vandalism on sociial media and the influence /pol/ can have on the internet.
We just need to organize the lazy fellows here.
They need to be spoonfed,
I say the most effective way to do that would be to have generals.
But not with a long OP.
As you may have noticed, it was not read to any extent.
It needs to be attention grabbing and ADHD friendly, since most anons here are just barely human.
I think a single link to a sort of arcchive that has all that is needed to coordiante anons is the way.
The OP cannot be longer than 5 or 8 short lines.
Along with attention grabbing CPASTEXT, I guess.
Do you have any resources on how botting works and how to anonymousely browse the internet and creating Twatter/Fb/Snapchat etc profiles and bypassing verifications?
This is what we need.
/pol/ is about 2100 regular visitors, we need to be persistent and quick to absorb,
then it can catch on.
If these visitors are paritally here and partially here at regular intervals, then a draw-in effect can attract the rest of the anons,
especially if we have an effect.
Like this attnetion will increase naturally and curiousity willl do the rest.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523783222
168177183,168208350,2018-04-15 09:07:24,">>168208291
he doesn't have any, he's just mad.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523783244
168177183,168208566,2018-04-15 09:10:15,">>168208322
That is a decent point, anon. Perfectly demonstrated by Concern cuck right now.
I'll have the OP message short and to the point by the next thread.
As for online archives, i'm going to be setting up an 8 board once we have a regular large follwing & some consitent people i can count on to be mods.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523783415
168177183,168209046,2018-04-15 09:15:49,">>168199677
So much this, nobody even has to know about this, it doesn't even have to be a public thing, why would we ever want media recognition. Having edgy aesthetics gets you just that.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523783749
168177183,168209221,2018-04-15 09:18:03,">>168208566
You got some mates in sight you might think about forming a local commune with?
If this gathers steam it could merge with the appeal of self-improvement generals on other boards so that established groups with a good social dynamic might adopt a neet or hikki here and there.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523783883
168177183,168209364,2018-04-15 09:19:47,">>168209046
I tried explaining to this guy that the logo and the name is just for the online space, because having something that applies to all of us would defeat the point of having no single authority.
So then he jumped onto saying we were directionless because we didn't have leaders.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523783987
168177183,168209445,2018-04-15 09:20:41,">>168177183
It's an amazing idea, but you've got no fucking idea how hard conversion is, you aren't going to get the average normie to read fascist literature.
Movements like pic related are amazing though and should be started in mass",,Anonymous,patsofapp.jpg,9sPCy4QFbwFA2lM5U5w6nQ==,,,1523784041
168177183,168209577,2018-04-15 09:22:27,">>168177183
Good stuff man. Finally a break from the usual pol shitfest 
One day I’ll travel back to the motherland to help out you lads",,Anonymous,7BEBA14F-50A8-4A1F-95AB-CF4BAA06FAC3.jpg,d26Yy9R0j2UgYHMtSFmJ1A==,AU,,1523784147
168177183,168209608,2018-04-15 09:22:41,">>168209445
I think just hanging out with other white men would prevent a lot of leftist cuckoldry
You don't even need to force feed fascist lit
Baby steps
>your picture seems based btw",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523784161
168177183,168209674,2018-04-15 09:23:29,">>168208291
Okay, let me write my essay",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523784209
168177183,168209780,2018-04-15 09:24:43,">>168209674
Essays could be fine, but as >>168208322 was saying we need to make our ideas easily digestible
If you do actually have some ideas, throw 'em down, bud",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523784283
168177183,168209960,2018-04-15 09:27:01,">>168209221
Not personally at the moment, sadly. But i'm ahead of you on the other boards, starting obviously with /fit/. 
>>168209445
We're not aiming to get them reading fascist literature yet, anon. At this point, the next stage is meeting to improve OURSELVES. Once we're in a position to start establishing ourselves in the community, that's when we start having political conversations with normies.
>>168209577
Thanks for the support, anon!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523784421
168177183,168210151,2018-04-15 09:29:36,">>168208242
I said nothing about a horse, just that you shouldn't use fascist symbolism to promote your self-improvement movement.
Stop having a hissy fit about me not liking your BUF logo 
>""It's not a BUF logo!”
>>168208291
Okay
What I would suggest is having a central hub with resources for people interested to read and use to learn what it means to better oneself. This includes stuff about diet, exercise, and mental health and wellbeing. These can be published books, scientific studies, stuff we have written ourselves, and (most importantly) informational images and videos. People have low attention spans, so to get them hooked initially using images with text rather than just books is good to get them interested and involved.
Before trying to improve others, you must improve yourself.
Alongside this, resources about improving the local area by organising.
This can be a list of charitable organisations, both nationwide and locally, to encourage people to actually contribute to their area. 
As well as this, local issues that matter to the community. This could be done by asking people questions in local supermarkets, or even going door-to-door to gauge public opinion. Political campaigning for these issues to be dealt with to local councils after finding out what the public wants, provided the local group agree with it.
All of this should be underpinned by local group meetings, once a month possibly.
The idea of groups of 5 is good, but too small. I'd say let people meet with their local area, one per town or a few per city to keep it on the small side. They can then choose like-minded people from their local area to go out and do more with.
All of this keeps the small-scale idea, but allows these groups to contribute both to their own personal improvement, and to the improvement of their communities.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523784576
168177183,168210304,2018-04-15 09:31:28,">>168209221
That's the idea I would follow, and at least in the beginning there would be no political involvement or anything that would get attention, which is why I find worrying about logos at this point quite pointless. The idea of small independent groups loosely contacted thru some online network and not just lazy online larping is exactly what we the youth today need.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523784688
168177183,168210411,2018-04-15 09:32:44,">>168210151
>I don't like the logo much either anon, how about something like pic related?
Your ideas are pretty good. We can start by gathering info from /fit/ and compiling it into easily digestable booklets
I do however, think it's best that we leave politics out of the small groups for the early stages.",,Anonymous,1492348215888.jpg,5qS/Fq1m5A1ZNk/KqYztYg==,US,,1523784764
168177183,168210433,2018-04-15 09:33:02,">>168209445
It would be an esoteric movement that wouldn't necessarily see growth as the main objective.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523784782
168177183,168210533,2018-04-15 09:34:15,">>168210151
I made maybe two comments about it. This is your 12th, doing nothing but sperging out over being told no over it. Who's having a hissy fit again?
Also, i specifically told you it was based on the BF logo. Is it just reading in general you have a problem with?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523784855
168177183,168210586,2018-04-15 09:34:52,">>168210533
BUF*",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523784892
168177183,168210689,2018-04-15 09:36:09,Pubes I am coming to Glasgow some day to felch you.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523784969
168177183,168210767,2018-04-15 09:36:57,">>168210304
>logos
true, autismmarkers are for playing not doing.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523785017
168177183,168211104,2018-04-15 09:41:01,">>168210533
You refuse to turn away from the BUF logo, despite many people saying it’s a bad idea.
Thanks for not saying anything about the ideas I brought forward.
I don’t want to associate with this idea if you’re a leading force behind it. You can’t take any criticism.
>>168210411
That’s definitely a better logo.
Yes, compiling stuff from /fit/ could be good. Also stuff like couch-to-10k guides to encourage people to exercise more.
And nothing political at the start is good, but non-partisan things like campaigning for the council to fix pot-holes and other such stuff might be alright. Stuff like that gets the community support because you’re speaking up about everyday issues. After that you can expand to bigger, more important stuff once you have the numbers.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523785261
168177183,168211492,2018-04-15 09:45:49,">>168210304
And that's exactly what the general is for, anon.
The only person WORRYING about the logos atm is concern cuck.
>>168211104
>many people
People have raised that point, i've explained it's online and we're not actally using it as a pan-movement symbol since there is not pan-movement group.
Everyone else accepted that explanation, you took it as an excuse to start complaining about hierarchy.
And you've said that already, yet you still are. Funny how much you still want to be here.
I also like how your ideas at the bottom there are just slight rewordings of what i've been saying for three threads now. So your plan is just to rip off the plan that we don't have, gotcha.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523785549
168177183,168211809,2018-04-15 09:50:19,">>168210586
One thing though, our nazifringe already started to copy antifa-lifestyles once calling themselves autonomous nationalists and organising pretty much as you described it, but with violent protests/anticapitalist blackblocs from time to time as a meeting point.
its said it failed and they start to fickle out as some groups simply started actually buying into far leftism due to being the offshoot of an offshoot and thus turned their coats after another reading session of radical niche-ism, others had such an autonomous lifestyle that they decided to be content with their fungroup and became disconnected to any political outlook, others just stopped all at once with most energy being spend on themselves and the banners and orchesterated but anonymous marches.
Progenity inside the groups and economic structures that grip into local areas could not be created just as a unified narrative collapsed after some time.",,Anonymous,Autonome_Nationalisten.jpg,Vv8fp3hsN3FX1jjtF7iDNg==,DE,,1523785819
168177183,168211993,2018-04-15 09:52:57,">>168211104
OK lets fucking leave it here, you two shouldn't start an argument. Nobody would be the leader as this wouldn't be a movement in need of organisation and leadership but small groups working together to survive in this fucked up world and may help the sorrounding communities to gain respect not recognition.
Also I think a great idea would be farming and permaculture, for the past few months I've been developing the idea, gathering literature and even started gardening on my dead grandma's old garden, so I could share some of materials if interested. I believe some form of selfsustainability would be something to work towards and gardening is great physical and mental work, plus it gives great results.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523785977
168177183,168212316,2018-04-15 09:57:00,">>168211809
It isn't our aim to become violent. All we're doing to begin with is self-improving, becoming confident in ourselves and our own beleifs, and then moving out into local community work.
So long as we aren't being vilified- or at least, being vilified for the wrong reasons in the public's eye- and we have the online space to communicate with each other, we won't have to start abandoning the movement.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523786220
168177183,168212464,2018-04-15 09:58:43,">>168210411
I’m happy to talk to you in Discord or something if you want.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523786323
168177183,168212580,2018-04-15 10:00:12,">>168211809
To continue from that, the german antifa researched extensivly on these groups so maybe there are english blogs that can describe them too so you can learn from their mistakes. Pic is from a vegan national socialist cooking show aimed at the autonous groups.
Raids and small scale social outing wars on each other were pretty frequent between both groups (with outings being surely more hurtful for the nationalist side.) so this kind of situation would-if it were to be sucessful-repeat if it cant be prevented in some way by even hiding from far left groups and the places and fields of actions were you get into ressource consuming fights. If that is even possible to avoid.",,Anonymous,vegan natsoc cooking show.png,A7cgAeDFPtELBWRcliqYlg==,DE,,1523786412
168177183,168212701,2018-04-15 10:01:41,">>168212464
Yeah, feel free to contact me if you start running out of ""original"" ideas.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523786501
168177183,168212708,2018-04-15 10:01:44,">>168212464
Join Rizon #vanguardism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523786504
168177183,168212950,2018-04-15 10:04:46,">>168212701
>>168212464
Stop it with your childish conflict for fucks sake, that's how ideas die, let's actually try to make something of this.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523786686
168177183,168213063,2018-04-15 10:06:07,">>168212950
I’m trying.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523786767
168177183,168213243,2018-04-15 10:08:14,">>168212316
It is a radical aim behind it though and the right is dominated by men. Many young men with extreme ideological leanings sitting on each others toes will seek an outlet. 
Nonviolence will probably violated by some offshoot speaking in your name pretty soon when it becomes saturated with some experienced people from former nationalist movements that were already violent-> also carrying the baggage with them that their faces are probably known and taking them in will lead to you being tracked, as the far left entertains archives over far right individuals and tries to document their lifes to be up to date on any new action.
It doesnt even has to be an aggressive ""lets smash up a journo"" style attack or some public stunt (as the generation identiy likes to do them) some rogue group wants to pull of for the sake of public provocation, getting into conflict with local power structures while doing ""community work"" might already trigger ""just"" violence.
You will have to create an easily digestable codex of behaviour that wont be breached and lead to a cultish and secretitive kind of spread that will seek to inject themselves into urban economy?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523786894
168177183,168213283,2018-04-15 10:08:47,,,Anonymous,autnats.jpg,YWtnXgdCm8SJ7WDH16kmKQ==,DE,,1523786927
168177183,168213298,2018-04-15 10:08:58,">>168212950
Yes, anon, it certainly is childish to spend half a thread shreiking about how we don't have any plan or direction, and then when asked to present your own ideas, come back with a long-winded version of the OP. Very childish indeed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523786938
168177183,168213468,2018-04-15 10:11:16,">>168212950
That said, trying to make something of this is what i've been doing since i started these threads, so forgive me for getting annoyed that some sperg got so upset over a symbol they shat up half a thread telling everyone trying to work that their ideas are shit, and then acting like they came up with them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523787076
168177183,168213612,2018-04-15 10:13:03,">Bowden becoming mainstream on /pol/
Finally",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523787183
168177183,168213725,2018-04-15 10:14:28,">>168213468
>>168213298
Just let him be, now that we've clarified the ideas to him he seems to be supporting the cause",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523787268
168177183,168213755,2018-04-15 10:14:49,">>168211993
>gardening
That needs a very different way of preparation and living then the urban approach OP took.
In a rural area you dont not only need a lot of starting capital, there is much less possibilities to attract new people lie in urban areas.
Except you breed your own because you have become balkan-Varg.
We actually got some pretty cultish groups here that live on the countryside and live in a parallel society were the 30s never ended.
Those however are also watched (im not into hitler, but lets not speak about that point of division) and might be easy to sack for the government should it become tyrannical.
(Albeit slovenia probably wont become a policestate like britain might turn out to be.)",,Anonymous,siedler2.jpg,5cquh5yhkYXVDuh3rCV5ng==,DE,,1523787289
168177183,168213828,2018-04-15 10:15:49,">>168213243
Far right activists who deal mainly in street action, in my experience, tend to look down on movements like the one being proposed. At any rate, considering it's a movement for self-improvement and most of the old order of hardcore fascists seem to revel in being stereotypes, it's unlikely the groups would want that association in the first place.
I take your point about young men finding an outlet, but there are other organisations that those particular guys might find more attractive then the self-help group with aspirations.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523787349
168177183,168214166,2018-04-15 10:19:48,">>168213755
>Albeit slovenia probably wont become a policestate like britain might turn out to be.
>might turn out to be
>might
>be
Stupid fucking Krauts",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523787588
168177183,168214478,2018-04-15 10:23:23,">>168214166
Is not my native language.
Also for all the ridiculous shit happening it is still much more tame then your average developing country and the speed in which civil liberties will continue to degrade cannot be acessed accurately yet imho.",,Anonymous,sisi.jpg,hBmcsTXwziGwgTBj7EZ2kQ==,DE,,1523787803
168177183,168214845,2018-04-15 10:27:27,">>168213468
I get it man, just ignore him then. And don't get me wrong I'm not here just to criticise, I really love the idea and would be happy to help in any way possible. 
>>168213755
If possible I think we can agree gardening would be more than welcome, but of course it wouldn't be a place to start. About Slovenia you're right, we don't yet have any too serious problems with the state, but a collapse is coming for the entire Europe and this safe bubble were in just makes people ignore the actual direction the west is going and that makes really hard to find like minded people, which is also why I like ops idea so much.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523788047
168177183,168215058,2018-04-15 10:30:12,">>168214845
No, i no. And it's not the criticism i mind, I understand where you're coming from with the focus on symbols and branding.
Again, thanks for the support, and sticking with it even through today.
Somebody's already started a discussionn chat for organisation if you're interested. >>168212708",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523788212
168177183,168216145,2018-04-15 10:42:41,,,Anonymous,1514933481644.png,qNy3gfldGOykwRhj1PtNXQ==,GB,,1523788961
168345419,168345419,2018-04-16 09:37:53,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
>What is Vanguardism?
Coming together offline to create a grassroots movement for genuine nationalism.
>Immediate goals
./SIG/pills, Links to useful material and PDFS of recommended reading for future threads
.A more permanent base for online Vanguard discussion and material storage 
./soc/ colonies/ Gab accounts to organise & finalise the meetups
>First phase meetup goals
Start going to the gym together 
Start cooking together
Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
>Second phase meetup goals
Start volunteering
Start attending community events
Start getting involved in local political campaigns
>“That’s right goy, come to the meetups so we can see your faces”
The groups will function independently- the online hub for discussion would be the only link. There is no central group, or leading figure, for the media or government to start attacking.
And since the first two stages of the movement are simply about improving ourselves and our communities, any arrests our governments make would be just for being right-wing; even if they tried it, public attention would cause it to backfire horribly.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,Vanguard.png,RluEZz2pMhwxuJCVWiTQLg==,GB,,1523871473
168345419,168345980,2018-04-16 09:44:33,The Coalition is in control here.,,Anonymous,1474324412344.jpg,bVRbtu7DrnD4BcNIzWL/xA==,GB,,1523871873
168345419,168346129,2018-04-16 09:46:13,">>168345419
i´ll have to pass on this one",,Anonymous,v.png,JdoqaXe1gTLPIVHvg3J1Qg==,,,1523871973
168345419,168346226,2018-04-16 09:47:30,">>168345419
I highly doubt any fascists other than my father exist in this labour infested Corbyn loving shithole of a city.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523872050
168345419,168346262,2018-04-16 09:47:54,">>168346129
OP, I told you nobody is going to read the text or see past the image.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523872074
168345419,168346315,2018-04-16 09:48:27,">>168346129
I love how you've switched to just posting that after getting btfo by posting the pic starting with ""in the context of.""
As i told you then- wrong context, dumbass.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523872107
168345419,168346668,2018-04-16 09:52:42,">>168346226
Stick around. When we start planning the meetups, you may be surprised.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523872362
168345419,168346729,2018-04-16 09:53:27,">>168346668
>meetups",,Anonymous,1521143841472.jpg,BxPt49WDwUKalQiBxG2ewg==,GB,,1523872407
168345419,168346816,2018-04-16 09:54:29,Utter state of this place.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523872469
168345419,168346945,2018-04-16 09:55:59,">>168346816
Hanna pls",,Anonymous,1510466988543.png,BoLvZIafFzGwqL6oFVH24Q==,US,,1523872559
168345419,168347620,2018-04-16 10:03:52,"I really don't think we should be even mentioning meetups and living together at such an early point, it just scares people away. IRL communities would be the ultimate goal and would probably need a lot of time to organise and form. Let's first start by introducing the idea of a network where like minded anons from same areas can get to know each other and then work from there. Let's not get ahead of ourselves.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523873032
168345419,168347785,2018-04-16 10:05:34,">>168345419
Bump.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523873134
168345419,168348162,2018-04-16 10:10:10,"My main goal is to build a small community in my area, whether through 4chan or otherwise. I hope to get mostly pudgey white cuck boys, and turn them into good men.
We will be doing:
>lifting
>reading clubs
>volunteer work
>mock debates/political discussions
I encourage you all to try something similar in your communities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523873410
168345419,168348435,2018-04-16 10:13:44,Bump,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523873624
168345419,168348465,2018-04-16 10:14:06,">>168345419
Op is cleaner and simpler now, i kinda like it even though it lacks content which was nice too
from previous posts
>>What is Vanguardism?
>If you’re still holding out for a leader, or a happening, or something that’ll take the burden of saving our nations off your own shoulders, then this is general is a must-read.
>There is a time coming when the damage done to western civilisation will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse. And make no mistake, this time is coming soon.
>So, should we just assume that people will see the light? That when the social order finally collapses, they’ll see what a fraud it was and the damage that a fractured society is doing and flock to us?
>No.
>Because there is no “us” at the moment. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities except as individuals keeping their opinions to themselves. And while we may be swaying public opinion, if people are still afraid to say it out loud NOW, that’s not going to help us when our enemies don’t even have to pretend to accept our right to speech.
>If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers. We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins. Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
>We need to become the Vanguard.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523873646
168345419,168348885,2018-04-16 10:19:04,Bumping for interest.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523873944
168345419,168349031,2018-04-16 10:20:51,how about you stop trying to bring shitty dead ideologies back?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1523874051
168345419,168349128,2018-04-16 10:22:06,">>168349031
>strong mind, sound body, strong communities
>shitty dead ideology
to what are you referring, leaf?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523874126
168345419,168349324,2018-04-16 10:24:18,">>168349128
larp shit like trad ORCker party",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1523874258
168345419,168349596,2018-04-16 10:27:41,Anyone in Patriot Front? I'm gonna interview with them later this week. I just want some fashy goys to lift with and talk to. But I'm an aspie so idk,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523874461
168345419,168349608,2018-04-16 10:27:51,">helping the less socially gifted among us
Fuck off commie",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1523874471
168345419,168349736,2018-04-16 10:29:29,">>168349596
You're much farther south than me. Good to see an American goy interested though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523874569
168345419,168349876,2018-04-16 10:31:11,">>168349324
Look man, the movement is fresh, so it can easily be misunderstood, the idea is that anons from around the world get to know each other locally, as all these redpills mean nothing if you're 'dead' in the real world, we need ,knowledge, stability, strength and we need to prepare for the future, all those are easier achieved in groups. That's all this movement advocates.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523874671
168345419,168350031,2018-04-16 10:32:55,What kind of nationalism? Civnat ethnonat or just anti jewry,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523874775
168345419,168350032,2018-04-16 10:32:55,"Bumping
French civicuck ally reporting in.
So how's pur little club going, made progress?
Also >>168345419
This guy >>168348465 is onto something
Clean up, make an easy inteo definition.
I cab help with a better logo or visual if you want one. It's free nigga, helping out the Self Improvement movement is always a pleasure. Just ask nicely and describe what you want senpai",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1523874775
168345419,168350061,2018-04-16 10:33:16,">>168348162
That sounds pretty gay in all honesty. It's basically a support group for losers that can't into life on their own. I can smell the NEET from here. The absolute state of this board.",,Tomo™,1506444198836.jpg,TzYtk5xjSQzsqqL23/COPg==,US,,1523874796
168345419,168350185,2018-04-16 10:34:46,">>168350032
gimme something like this senpai
>>168350061
The idea is to stop white men from being losers that can't into life. Give them a step up. Something blacks wish they could do but the way they try to solve it is screaming for reparations.",,Anonymous,1497300382878.jpg,5qS/Fq1m5A1ZNk/KqYztYg==,US,,1523874886
168345419,168350438,2018-04-16 10:37:32,">>168350031
Clearly ethno nationalism, pro white race, white me self improvement.
I know because I was here last time, and Im a civ nat
Also anti jew, but the meme is toxic so to be kept away from these threads.
The whole point is a clean Self improvement movement (for white men) that spreads without a leader, and can't be ideologically attacked.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1523875052
168345419,168350541,2018-04-16 10:38:29,"I think first step for the movement should be to create a permanent resource of sort, forum or wiki for example.
Right now it is only an idea which can surely spark interest, but we need something you can go at all times and share your thoughts and read others'
Secondary goal should be to romanticise the movement. Literature, art, music, etc. Create a proper group identity with culture. Nationalists did it in 17th century and natsocialists did it 1930-. This will really start luring people in as soon as they just see it.
>>168350061
yeah, the goal is to help people. Nobody wants to be neet, yet suprisingly many are.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523875109
168345419,168350642,2018-04-16 10:39:36,">>168350438
Welp, I'm out then, civnat but anti jew, bigger and poo, other races will be civilized without jewry imo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523875176
168345419,168350755,2018-04-16 10:40:56,">>168350642
>>168350438
It's not really ANY specific kind of ideology like that.
Simply:
>improve yourself
>improve your brothers
>improve your community
No official stance on race, jewery, or civnat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523875256
168345419,168350774,2018-04-16 10:41:04,">>168348465
>we need to become the Vagina Guard
vanguard for some cunts to take over? no thanks
>lets gather together
and get doxxed and rekt
its bad enough to show up here
fuck you to death you retarded cunt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523875264
168345419,168350904,2018-04-16 10:42:22,">>168350755
You can't be nationalist and pro jew at the same time since the jew constantly seeks to destroy nationalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523875342
168345419,168351013,2018-04-16 10:43:28,">>168350438
We're setting up an alternate way of discussing the ideas, if youre interested we can add you can you in some chat.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523875408
168345419,168351189,2018-04-16 10:45:33,">>168350904
You're not understanding.
I myself am somewhere between ethno and civnationalist.
The MOVEMENT does not have any official stance on these issues, it is only about bringing people together to improve their lives and communities.
If anybody is interested in further discussion, please join us on Rizon #vanguardism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523875533
168345419,168351334,2018-04-16 10:47:05,">>168351189
has it been running since yesterday?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523875625
168345419,168351465,2018-04-16 10:48:32,">>168351334
There is a discord server as well but we have decided to not post it publicly but only to people on IRC for now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523875712
168345419,168351628,2018-04-16 10:50:19,">>168350904
We're not pro jew ffs, this is /pol, we just don't want the movement to be labelled as fascist or as anything really, as it would not be loud public thing with rallies and shit. It would be anons connecting locally, that's it.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523875819
168345419,168352293,2018-04-16 10:57:52,"Need to bump.
Going to try and make >>168350185 idea
Hold tight",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1523876272
168345419,168352425,2018-04-16 10:59:13,">>168352293
Bump m8. 
Godspeed anons.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523876353
168345419,168352824,2018-04-16 11:03:49,">>168352293
Join the chat, we'd love to have you in.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523876629
168345419,168352943,2018-04-16 11:05:19,">>168351628
Not trying to be labelled fascist but have what looks like an SS symbol? Lel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523876719
168345419,168353127,2018-04-16 11:07:22,">>168352943
Fucking hell, that's what we've been arguing with op for the past 2 days, it badly represents the groups intentions, i completely agree.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523876842
168345419,168353493,2018-04-16 11:11:22,">>168345419
Is Jewish nationalism allowed?",,Anonymous,1523087608649.jpg,kRFvR+CTFnpIefUrFMyMXg==,,,1523877082
168345419,168354148,2018-04-16 11:18:29,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0ExCrAaOf0,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523877509
168345419,168354318,2018-04-16 11:20:06,">starting new movements
Join your local GI chapter already faggots",,Anonymous,lambda.png,ryb5WDz+fPeabAn4luYxIQ==,FI,,1523877606
168345419,168354502,2018-04-16 11:22:04,">>168354318
Lots of people on /pol/ seem to think that GI is controlled opposition. To them every movement except one they found themselves is compromised.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523877724
168345419,168354673,2018-04-16 11:24:00,">>168354318
>>168354502
EU Identitarians do not allow people who hold anti semetic views within their ranks.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523877840
168345419,168354739,2018-04-16 11:24:50,">>168353493
The Jewish nationalism always ends up as internationalism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523877890
168345419,168354876,2018-04-16 11:26:13,">>168354739
That's nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523877973
168345419,168355070,2018-04-16 11:28:43,">>168354673
Well it's nonsense to be antisemitic. Jews have been living in Europe longer than some European peoples have. Someone isn't the enemy just because they happen to be Jewish, that's nonsense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523878123
168345419,168355191,2018-04-16 11:30:05,">>168354502
What's the point of ""compromising"" a movement that is not a miltia trying to use force to gain something? What would that achieve?
>>168354673
In many EU countries you can go to jail for such things. And especially in e.g. Germany they are brainwashed so much about jews that even the slightest sign of ""anti-semitism"" would scare most of them away.
And you don't need to be open about it. Anyone with half a brain eventually understands (((who))) is responsible for the most part
Well in a way European anti-nazi etc. laws are actually a good deterent to nazi LARPers like TWP that only scare people away",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523878205
168345419,168355252,2018-04-16 11:30:48,">>168355070
Hello Schlomo",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523878248
168345419,168355292,2018-04-16 11:31:18,">>168354739
Stop replying to the memeflag.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523878278
168345419,168355300,2018-04-16 11:31:26,>>168355070,,Anonymous,Flagge.png,lKgwJDrtwV+c8tPv4Uii5Q==,DE,,1523878286
168345419,168355389,2018-04-16 11:32:19,">>168355252
>>168355300
... and? My point still stands.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523878339
168345419,168355437,2018-04-16 11:32:46,"Stop replying to the memeflag.
He's only here to sow discord",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523878366
168345419,168355604,2018-04-16 11:34:40,">>168355437
I have this strange feeling that after the Syria strike there's been a whole legion of kikes and ""based pedes"" shabbos goyim shilling 24/7",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523878480
168345419,168355715,2018-04-16 11:35:54,">>168355437
I made a valid point. If you had intellectual integrity you'd address it instead of hiding behind fallacy of my flag being relevant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523878554
168345419,168355767,2018-04-16 11:36:32,">>168355604
>""russian bots have increase 2000%""
>/pol/ is the same as it always was except more kikes
made me thonk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523878592
168345419,168355833,2018-04-16 11:37:18,">>168354876
>>168355070
Why don't you show us your real flag, Mr.Shekelberg?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523878638
168345419,168355896,2018-04-16 11:38:05,">>168355833
Dont even give him a (You)
He made no valid points
He just wants to divide the thread between bad and good goyim",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523878685
168345419,168355905,2018-04-16 11:38:10,">>168354673
I swear I saw a clip in which the head of GI said ""Danke Der Fuhrer, Danke"". I wouldn't join a far right group anyway because you instantly get put on a government watch list. Just look at the investigation of David Copeland, his name was on so many lists because he joined a bunch of far right groups. David Copeland was intelligent too, he had an IQ of 125 but he obviously wasn't intelligent enough.",,Anonymous,images (1).jpg,eF2oINmLSjORYxv3HZq1TQ==,GB,,1523878690
168345419,168355925,2018-04-16 11:38:21,">>168355715
>I made a valid point
>Well it's nonsense to be antisemitic
>Jews have been living in Europe longer than some European peoples have
8/10 because I responded",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523878701
168345419,168356022,2018-04-16 11:39:24,">>168355070
Aaaaaand there we go...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523878764
168345419,168356193,2018-04-16 11:41:24,">>168355833
>>168355896
Just a heads up, falling back on ""le flag"" due to a lack of an argument is a disturbing trend on nu/pol/ that doesn't hide said lack of argument.
>>168355925
>>168356022
My point stands, like I said. Do you have a counterpoint to it that's actually related to the topic?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523878884
168345419,168356569,2018-04-16 11:45:14,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523879114
168345419,168356600,2018-04-16 11:45:26,">>168356193
Does it ever occur to you that there is a deep rooted and underlying problem with Jews, by the fact that they have been expelled of countless civilisations/counties/governments etc? Does it now occur to you that (((they))) may have ravaged the world through usury, and egotist method of making money out of literally nothing?
As for you me asking for your flag, I'd like to see what country you are from. That is all. Your opinion may be trash but not yet discarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523879126
168345419,168356656,2018-04-16 11:46:00,">>168356193
i will give you a proper response when you provide sauce for those assertions",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523879160
168345419,168356702,2018-04-16 11:46:31,">>168356600
STOP.
REPLYING.
TO THE MEMEFLAGGOT.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523879191
168345419,168356936,2018-04-16 11:49:02,">>168355070
Fuck off, this isnt a thread where we'll try to oppose '/pol facts'",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523879342
168345419,168356947,2018-04-16 11:49:09,Remember to have a good diet,,Anonymous,1403314264380.jpg,BDjmsgUnU8Emo/cS00/e5Q==,GB,,1523879349
168345419,168356957,2018-04-16 11:49:14,">jews aren't that bad
>1000 replies
easiest derailment of a thread, hats off to the kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523879354
168345419,168357033,2018-04-16 11:49:58,">>168356957
this.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523879398
168345419,168357103,2018-04-16 11:50:44,">>168355715
Sure you did, go make a new thread with your valid points, we have different topics here, i think we all have strong stances on your topics and dont feel like discussing them.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523879444
168345419,168357174,2018-04-16 11:51:39,">>168357103
OP here, off the vpn because i'm not in public anymore.
Stop replying to the memeflaggot.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523879499
168345419,168357308,2018-04-16 11:52:54,">>168356600
Population expulsions in Europe have not been limited to Jews. Do yourself a favor and read up some on them. You'll find it enlightening. 
>>168356656
pic related. Or does /pol/ not consider Hungarians to be European anymore? How many other post-Jewish arrival European groups would I have to post?
>>168356936
>we're not here for facts
hmm
>>168356957
Someone has to give Vanguardism a bump",,Anonymous,Jews in Europe.jpg,l++JOK9QLTOrlP3nDNUbKQ==,,,1523879574
168345419,168357427,2018-04-16 11:54:19,">>168357308
Buddy, this really isn't the place to defend your kike heritage. Nobody cares.
This thread is about building communities and improving your own life and your brother's lives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523879659
168345419,168357572,2018-04-16 11:55:51,">>168357427
From what I've gathered this thread is about larping to be contrarianism against Generation Identity because they won't let you hate the Jews while saving Europe.
Meanwhile I point out Jews have been a part of Europe longer than some European nations. So yes, this is the place. What would an Amerimutt even care?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523879751
168345419,168357763,2018-04-16 11:57:53,">>168357572
It's really not supposed to be an indentitarian movement at all. I can understand how you've missed the point, but please stop posting your unrelated garbage.
Also, how do I even know you're not a mutt yourself?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523879873
168345419,168357808,2018-04-16 11:58:18,">>168357427
ignore him like the rest of us",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523879898
168345419,168357843,2018-04-16 11:58:43,">>168357763
seriously stop",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523879923
168345419,168358091,2018-04-16 12:01:14,">>168357808
Honestly thread is dead just like they always are. 
I did it a favour getting debate stirred up, but it's still dead.
Probably should have chosen a non-communist name for your larp movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523880074
168345419,168358193,2018-04-16 12:02:14,">>168357572
>Meanwhile I point out Jews have been a part of Europe longer than some European nations.
Just like blacks been in the US since almost the beginning but still no American identarian considers them American.
You were in Europe by chance just like some ugly growth can pop-up upon someone's body. Doesn't mean you consider it a proper part of it and don't want it removed given the chance",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1523880134
168345419,168358227,2018-04-16 12:02:39,">>168358091
>Honestly thread is dead just like they always are.
i wonder who killed it",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523880159
168345419,168358405,2018-04-16 12:04:23,">>168357763
>It's really not supposed to be an indentitarian movement at all.
It's what it sounds like:
>What is Vanguardism?
>Coming together offline to create a grassroots movement for genuine nationalism.
if it's not rooted in your national identities than it reads like civic nationalism, which is retarded.
>>168358193
>not european despite being there thousands of years and contributing to some of its greatest accomplishments
I guess no one is really European by that definition.
>>168358227
It was dead before. I'm practically a plurality of the posts ITT.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523880263
168345419,168359261,2018-04-16 12:13:14,>>168356947,,Anonymous,1521178557.png,KKuUWpibPx3PvMsJ2sctig==,GB,,1523880794
168345419,168359313,2018-04-16 12:13:45,>>168359261,,Anonymous,fapping.png,Ih12nRuNxJ+f+GGALL0BRw==,GB,,1523880825
168345419,168359360,2018-04-16 12:14:10,">>168354673
>EU Identitarians do not allow people who hold anti semetic views within their ranks.
How much of a faggot are you?
>Be you, anti-semetic /pol/ user
>Go to your first GI meetup with a fake alias
>Meet other people like you
>Decide to talk outside the meeting
>Talk about Jews in secret
>Continue to do GI stuff because their actions and strategy still aligns with yours
>When a more suitable group gains traction join them as well",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523880850
168345419,168359403,2018-04-16 12:14:35,>>168359313,,Anonymous,meditation.jpg,MylTMeggqmssYfXVdXxC2w==,GB,,1523880875
168345419,168359545,2018-04-16 12:16:09,">>168359261
>>168359313
>>168359403
So does Vanguardism originate with crossposters from /fit/?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523880969
168345419,168359649,2018-04-16 12:17:04,">>168345419
Are you the same guy who made the thread asking how to organize a facist movement not too long ago? If so I suggested the name British Vanguard so I better get royalties you kike",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523881024
168345419,168359866,2018-04-16 12:19:27,">>168359649
I don't remember making one *asking* about how to organise, but i have been trying to get people organising for a while now.
Also, technically the royalities are going to Bowden's estate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523881167
168345419,168359932,2018-04-16 12:20:10,">>168359360
That kind of infiltration isn't very honourable, is it?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523881210
168345419,168360057,2018-04-16 12:21:21,">>168359932
Neither is being disingenuous in debate but you have no issue with that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523881281
168345419,168360221,2018-04-16 12:23:15,">>168360057
You hold no serious beliefs or convictions, not with your blatant shilling and piss taking of this effort for 'Vanguardism.'",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523881395
168345419,168360405,2018-04-16 12:25:04,">>168360221
That's a childish deflection.
I had an interest in Vanguardism but it seems to be some pale version of civic nationalism with shortsighted antisemitism thrown in simply because GI doesn't engage in it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523881504
168345419,168360496,2018-04-16 12:25:52,">>168360405
Ok, so youre not interested, now move along.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523881552
168345419,168360519,2018-04-16 12:26:02,">>168359932
Your conception of these groups are false. Everyone in these groups are the same as you. You all want your countries back. You all agree to follow some rules that ensure your groups survival. Just because you know things that others might not shouldn't make a difference because its the actions that count. Its not infiltration unless you're a nonwhite from some third world shithole.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523881562
168345419,168360575,2018-04-16 12:26:34,">>168360496
Is my assessment wrong?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523881594
168345419,168360631,2018-04-16 12:27:06,">>168360405
isnt to call something a childish deflection somewhat of a childish deflection itself?
meta",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523881626
168345419,168360669,2018-04-16 12:27:25,">>168360575
About the movement being inherently antisemetic? yes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523881645
168345419,168360748,2018-04-16 12:28:17,">>168360519
Your points stand but to someone with a coward's mind they'll leap to conclusions of such a thing being ""dishonourable infiltration"" because that's how they intend it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523881697
168345419,168360801,2018-04-16 12:28:51,">>168360631
No.
>>168360669
And the other parts?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523881731
168345419,168360944,2018-04-16 12:30:19,">>168360575
It focuses on a movement that is 2 days old, us, the members barely know eachother, but have been working on that and naturally coming to disagreements. What got us together was not political ideology that you seem to be focusing on, but the idea of connecting wiithin the real world. So sure it might be right, but to us it's irrelavant.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523881819
168345419,168360986,2018-04-16 12:30:39,">>168360801
Yes you're actually completely wrong.
It's simply creating cells of well-adjusted men working to improve themselves and their community",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523881839
168345419,168361107,2018-04-16 12:31:52,">>168359403
Books on persuasion here
https://pastebin.com/tBrGzcNr
>>168359545
No, but self improvement will massively benefit the movement.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523881912
168345419,168361256,2018-04-16 12:33:29,">>168360748
So many English I talk to see these issues in such black and white terms. Its either too scary because the group wants to gas kikes tomorrow or the group isn't doing enough because they sometimes say they're not racist. People don't realise they can join more than one group at a time and your audience don't notice or care unless you're a prominent figure. If Generation Identity died tomorrow the same people would organise differently and take a different angle. The best thing about it is just organising and networking with people with similar beliefs. It makes a difference.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523882009
168345419,168361281,2018-04-16 12:33:41,">>168360944
I think civic nationalism is a bad idea for the movement. Where do you stand on it?
>>168360986
What defines their community? That's an important part, and unless you can define it then I'm not wrong. So far this just appears to be an antisemitic spinoff of GI.
>>168361107
>No, but self improvement will massively benefit the movement.
So far that's the best part of Vanguardism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882021
168345419,168361388,2018-04-16 12:34:48,">>168361256
I agree. Have you been posting in these threads long? If not, I'd say you have the mindset to be a leader in it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882088
168345419,168361413,2018-04-16 12:34:56,">>168361281
>What defines their community
> unless you can define it then I'm not wrong
what the fuck is this autism
their community is the city that they live in, the people that live near them, and their state/country",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882096
168345419,168361415,2018-04-16 12:34:56,Fascism is a Jewish construct of mind control. They want to imbalance you to the slave mind or the masteer mind.... doesnt matter which side because you get owned one way or another.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882096
168345419,168361488,2018-04-16 12:35:36,">>168360405
i don't think thats what op meant it to be at least. Vanguard is a military word meaning the first group to advance. You have to first train your body and mind so you can achieve a higher status before you can even think of participating in politics.
The thesis is simple: Improve yourself, help and inspire your brothers to improve themselves. Build connections with people and help each other.
I don't think this movement is even meant political even if it has political motivations. It's about building well-adjusted people to gain reputation and build an image for your group. 
Just look at the image people have of right-wingers right now and imagine what hiw much better it would be if everyone representing it wasn't such a mess.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523882136
168345419,168361599,2018-04-16 12:36:37,">>168361413
It's not autism, I'm trying to help you use your mind to develop what your movement is supposed to be.
So if an Amerimutt like you lives in a 56% community, you're out to help the entire community? Black, white, mexican, Jew, Asian, what have you? It's about community, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882197
168345419,168361608,2018-04-16 12:36:38,">>168361388
Thank you. I probably come across that way because I surround myself with leaders. Its my first time coming across this thread.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523882198
168345419,168361660,2018-04-16 12:37:09,">>168361281
>I think civic nationalism is a bad idea for the movement. Where do you stand on it?
I don't actually care, the movement itself would not identfy with any specific ideology exept maybe the right wing mindset overall, as for the members, i wouldnt have a problem with any ideology held as long as it does not negatively affect the movement.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523882229
168345419,168361849,2018-04-16 12:38:59,">>168361599
How could I help my community without helping improve the lives of those most likely to commit crimes? 
Obviously I wish my country was whiter than it is, but at this point, why don't I try to help the blacks make well adjusted men of themselves?
I only touch on the blacks with that statement, but obviously applies to all people in my community. Can you read >>168361488 and the OP and quit counter signalling?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882339
168345419,168361880,2018-04-16 12:39:22,">>168361488
Good digits, and a fair assessment. The key point I'm trying to address, or find answers for, is what constitutes ""your group"" in social terms here. Just fellow Vanguards? Members of the same ethnic group, town, or what? For a Finnish person I suppose the answer isn't hard, but for more diverse European nations (and especially Americans), I'd say it's an important question.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882362
168345419,168361908,2018-04-16 12:39:50,">>168361388
this is the 3rd or 4th thread",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523882390
168345419,168361980,2018-04-16 12:40:32,What do you guys think of Identity Evropa?they're a little larpy but I've been thinking of joining them,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882432
168345419,168361994,2018-04-16 12:40:44,">>168361599
>lives in a 56% white community
Name one in the entire country
99% of neighborhoods in the US are segregated by race.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882444
168345419,168362021,2018-04-16 12:41:00,">>168361660
Fair enough.",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882460
168345419,168362089,2018-04-16 12:41:40,">>168361849
So to you it is essentially civic nationalism. Ok.
The fuck is counter signalling?",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882500
168345419,168362107,2018-04-16 12:41:55,">>168345419
I like the idea, but:
You will have 3 problems: 
1.Keeping out the fags
2.Keeping out the ""kill all the jews now!"" nazi larpers
3.Keeping out the government agentmen who will swarm around you like flies at a banquet.
Control and counter intel is key.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882515
168345419,168362163,2018-04-16 12:42:24,">>168350061
I know right, they should be having fun working a pointless job, binge drinking on the weekend, and jacking off to anime between gaming sessions.",,Anonymous,13132141.jpg,KDOkiOZr4QKUU4kG7tBfsA==,AU,,1523882544
168345419,168362278,2018-04-16 12:43:36,">>168362089
I'm not a civic nationalist but I have to live here either way. Might as well improve my community.
Counter-signalling is the shit you've been doing for most of this thread. Essentially spewing bullshit about the movement without even knowing the first thing about it. Shilling without getting paid.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882616
168345419,168362302,2018-04-16 12:43:51,">>168345419
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
next step: flex your vagina muscles together",,Anonymous,1450622962001-int.jpg,jZzQLjw6eNutVX58TZMPhg==,RU,,1523882631
168345419,168362384,2018-04-16 12:44:37,I'll just leave this here,,Anonymous,Capture.png,9UnITCzIMf0fvNDPigqLLg==,US,,1523882677
168345419,168362424,2018-04-16 12:44:58,">>168362278
If you read my posts back to the first you'd see that's BS.
>>168362302
lol",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882698
168345419,168362427,2018-04-16 12:45:00,">>168350061
Working together toward a common goal always makes individuals stronger, no matter how strong they maybe individually.
How about you be part of the solution, instead of part of the problem?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882700
168345419,168362549,2018-04-16 12:46:19,">>168362424
>your first post
>Is Jewish nationalism allowed?
ok bud, whatever you say",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523882779
168345419,168362688,2018-04-16 12:47:40,">>168362107
1. will get put off once they realise this is abot improving ourselves
2. look down on anything that isn't explicitly that already (and some are already covered in 1.)
and the movement is designed specifically so that 3. isn't a problem. They can't ban the entire movement, because there is no central authority; it's just small groups with the same idea, if they ban 1 it'll just split and form new groups.
The only way thy could do it would be to go around arresting us, and if we're just going to the gym and holding study sessions they'll have to admit the only reason they're doing it is because we're right-wing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523882860
168345419,168362703,2018-04-16 12:47:49,">>168362549
>Coming together offline to create a grassroots movement for genuine nationalism.
ok",,Anonymous,,,,,1523882869
168345419,168362757,2018-04-16 12:48:23,"Here's an alternate introduction to the movement i made yesterday.
https://pastebin.com/zgWQzxzD",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523882903
168345419,168362881,2018-04-16 12:49:31,">>168345980 >>168345906 >>168346129 >>168346226 >>168346262 >>168346315 >>168346668 >>168346729 >>168346816 >>168346945 >>168347620 >>168347785 >>168348162 >>168348435 >>168348465 >>168348885 >>168349031 >>168349128 >>168349324 >>168349596 >>168349608 >>168349736 >>168349876 >>168350031 >>168350032 >>168350061 >>168350185 >>168350438 >>168350541 >>168350642 >>168350755 >>168350774 >>168350904 >>168351013 >>168351189 >>168351334 >>168351465 >>168351628 >>168352293 >>168352425 >>168352824 >>168352943 >>168353127 >>168353493 >>168354148 >>168354318 >>168354502 >>168354673 >>168354739 >>168354876 >>168355070 >>168355191 >>168355252 >>168355292 >>168355300 >>168355389 >>168355437 >>168355604 >>168355715 >>168355767 >>168355833 >>168355896 >>168355905 >>168355925 >>168356022 >>168356193 >>168356569 >>168356600 >>168356656 >>168356702 >>168356936 >>168356947 >>168356957 >>168357033 >>168357103 >>168357174 >>168357308 >>168357427 >>168357572 >>168357763 >>168357808 >>168357843 >>168358091 >>168358193 >>168358227 >>168358405 >>168359261 >>168359313 >>168359360 >>168359403 >>168359545 >>168359649 >>168359866 >>168359932 >>168360057 >>168360221 >>168360405 >>168360496 >>168360519 >>168360575 >>168360631 >>168360669 >>168360748 >>168360801 >>168360944 >>168360986 >>168361107 >>168361256 >>168361281 >>168361388 >>168361413 >>168361415 >>168361488 >>168361599 >>168361608 >>168362021 >>168362089 >>168362107 >>168362163 >>168362278 >>168362302 >>168362384 >>168362424 >>168362427 >>168362549 >>168362688 >>168362703 >>168362757
Keep going, OP.
Be consisten and more anons will come along.
Don't listen to demoralization/concern shills
(albeit some have a point, but still, community and cohesion is important in an age of decadent progressivism),
but be extremely cautious of meet-ups as well.
I will contribute my archive before the end of July, I swear by the honor of my German Autism.
It will hopefully inspire a renaissance for shitposting, meme-skirmished, and perhaps even a meme-war.",,Anonymous,1508654848108[1].png,tXhBE/kljbAVSXIh1mHxxA==,DE,,1523882971
168345419,168362963,2018-04-16 12:50:15,">>168345419
>still posting
The Coalition runs this show, didn't you know?",,Anonymous,1478349657974.jpg,eCvrKRI+O9vt3QiJnFjE+Q==,GB,,1523883015
168345419,168362979,2018-04-16 12:50:20,/hpg/ - honey pot general,,Anonymous,,,,,1523883020
168345419,168363083,2018-04-16 12:51:24,">>168362979
I don't think it's guided enough to be a honeypot. Right now it has a vibe that's a cross between survivalism and ""/pol/ support group""",,Anonymous,,,,,1523883084
168345419,168363318,2018-04-16 12:53:39,">>168361880
OP said in previous threads that we don't have ""us"" at the moment and that is why he wanted to create this movement. Right wingers are often way more shy and quiet than leftists. We have to build up a well-adjusded population, because frankly everyone but only a few rare people are a mess right now, and if we help each other we can build up more confident and attractive groups to actually take part in politics. The idea of finding connections and building up multiple smaller communities allows you to actually decide yourself who you invite along. It can be your own languge, race, hobby or anything really, that is not really the point i guess. I wonder what happens if leftists try and join in, but i hope that if we actually educate people the right way they will change to right wingers too.
However it doesn't really matter if some leftist groups emerge because if they actually do improve themselves and educate themselves we can just agree to disagree about politics as long as the people aren't out of their minds like it seems right now with antifa and radical feminists. 
However we will still get more confident ourselves and if we stay true to ourselves and seek the truth we will then have more confident voters, more attractive lead and better image overall so if others understand our ways, they will want to join in too.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523883219
168345419,168363501,2018-04-16 12:55:32,">>168362107
>1.Keeping out the fags
Once you got your own inner circle you can easily discriminate against the people you don't want joining by giving them a membership/application form and then giving lame excuses. e.g.you're not looking for new members at the moment, they didn't fill the form out properly, you require someone with x skillset... etc. Just think of how companies do it. If they can then surely your boys club can.
>2.Keeping out the ""kill all the jews now!"" nazi larpers
In addition to my previous point you can set up your group as follows: (a) Establish clear rules that you don't want e.g. No illegal activities, no swastikas... etc. (b) Make connections with the ""Raed Seige""fags in your area so you can direct them there for autism. Make it clear that if they want to associate with your group that they have to follow your groups rules.
>3.Keeping out the government agentmen who will swarm around you like flies at a banquet.
You can't always keep them out, but its easy to avoid getting into trouble. Only do legal activities. You can also make connections with some of these government workers, especially if they're cops. Sometimes there might be issues where both your groups interests lie such as being opposing drug dealers in the community. 
Avoid being worried about agentmen by not doing anything illegal.
You can also establish a procedure for dealing with agentmen if they ever wish to talk with you. It could be along the lines of 'only tell the necessary truths'.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523883332
168345419,168363825,2018-04-16 12:58:29,">>168362757
Beautiful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523883509
168345419,168363928,2018-04-16 12:59:44,">>168362881
Thanks for the support, mate. And the shills are good for keeping the thread bumped and occasionally some good conversation, bt at the end of the day we know what they're here for and we know what we stand for.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523883584
168345419,168364050,2018-04-16 13:00:57,">>168355070
>2 shekels have been deposited in your account for this post",,Anonymous,1464647981503.png,32zLVMQ8iC+iTYqBTbNrYg==,US,,1523883657
168345419,168364333,2018-04-16 13:03:32,">>168364050
see
>>168357308",,Anonymous,,,,,1523883812
168345419,168364428,2018-04-16 13:04:25,">>168362881
>quoting me for some reason
I'll even bump your favorite shit thread for you, delusional retard
just to watch you fail IRL",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1523883865
168345419,168365004,2018-04-16 13:10:32,">>168362757
>https://pastebin.com/zgWQzxzD
I corrected a few errors and made it so that it fits nicely into a full-screen window of MSEditor, at standard settings on a 1080*1920 monitor:
https://pastebin.com/raw/1Hh0fiQL
Thanks for your effort, Slovenianon.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523884232
168345419,168365051,2018-04-16 13:10:53,">>168364428
Okay, have fun.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523884253
168345419,168365278,2018-04-16 13:13:17,">>168365004
thats some real nice stuff.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1523884397
168345419,168365799,2018-04-16 13:18:25,">>168365004
Thanks man, good job, the giant sign is kinda unnececary tho.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1523884705
168345419,168365813,2018-04-16 13:18:34,">>168365278
The question is, is such a text-wall adapted to the medium that is 4chan?
See ya, working out.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1523884714
168345419,168368841,2018-04-16 13:47:09,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523886429
168387422,168387422,2018-04-16 16:29:40,"Not really a political discussion thread, but feel free to discuss Vanguardism
Previous Thread for any information, it's all in the links of Vandgardism General from a few hours ago : >>168345419
I said I was going to help out, if I could.
Made a nice visual, of at least concept to share with the friendos trying to start their Self Improvement movement.
Since a lot of people, me included feel interested, I thought I'd help out, how I can.
Here's my gay ass logo/visual.
I can change the colors, but you know, design choices, complementary color choice, all that.
I hope you like the blue and yellow. It is supposed to be completely detached from politics, and seem positive. Yellow/electricty/energy, and blue which is complimentray is for seeming peaceful. The peaceful vanguards, protectors and self improvers.
I did this specific visual from a request/inspiration from an american anon, on which I based my vector.
I'll post it in the next Vandguard General, just want to share the files so that other people can save them if I miss the thread.
Next posts will be dumping variations of the same design.
And you can talk about Vandguardism or bitch about my photoshop skills, your call.",Logo For The Vanguardism General Thread,Anonymous,Vanguard2.png,zB5l/9Yk4gmcVzyo+Sb05Q==,FR,,1523896180
168387422,168387525,2018-04-16 16:30:32,"-Love, French Civicuck Ally",,Anonymous,Vanguard1.png,idmsGftRTw2hJm2/iVtAMw==,FR,,1523896232
168387422,168387597,2018-04-16 16:31:12,Jpeg edition,,Anonymous,Vanguard2.jpg,8IdSsZFM201sNlDzYY7zlQ==,FR,,1523896272
168387422,168387871,2018-04-16 16:33:32,"I was late for this, said I would do it, but I had other shit to do obviously.
So there you go bois. See you on V.G.
Bye for now.
Don't forget to save, if you're one of the guys on the thread. You can also have fun, modify, I'll even share a PSD if you guys want to mess with it.",,Anonymous,Vanguard1.jpg,Q5jCfhQEwm/ENH7rWVGX+Q==,FR,,1523896412
168457374,168457374,2018-04-17 04:20:09,"Tbh, I don't really care all that much for this, I just had a little bit of fun researching how this stuff could become a reality.
And, if anyone could answer my questions on what ""Vanguardism"" even is, I'd be thankful.
Wikipedia tells me it's part of Leninism, which makes me a bit skeptical to be honest.
But I guess this method could ""work"" on here too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanguardism
And, for the actual OP now:
Here is all that has been gathered (at least by me) until now, feel free to expand and add to the thread-wide pastebin.
>https://pastebin.com/raw/dnyaTMkZ",Vanguardism general - /van/guardism; simplified OP edition,Anonymous,Vanguard_Sig_Logo_Larp.png,RluEZz2pMhwxuJCVWiTQLg==,DE,,1523938809
168457374,168458414,2018-04-17 04:39:20,">>168457374
Maybe we change the name to National Vanguardism, what do you think?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523939960
168457374,168459571,2018-04-17 04:58:47,">>168457374
Original OP here. Thanks for the pastebin, anon, it's some good advice.
As for what Vanguardism is, the basic gestalt is that we begin to meet up in groups of 5. First so we can work on self-improvement, and then once we've acheived that, to start becoming active in helping out our local communities.
In other words, turning ourselves into dependable people, and then becoming people that our communities depend on.
That's what the term Vanguard means- the leaders of a movement, the dependable, philosophically literate core.
That's what it means in the Leninist sense, too, but that's where the similarity ends. Because Lenin was building a socialist vanguard, and we're building a National one.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523941127
168457374,168460183,2018-04-17 05:10:06,">>168457374
>>168459571
We need a secure platform to communicate that lads, thats half the game. Failing that, we could use multiple comms outlets to throw (((them))) off.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523941806
168457374,168460393,2018-04-17 05:14:11,">>168459571
>Because Lenin was building a socialist vanguard, and we're building a National one.
Those two are not incompatible, it is rather his internationalism that makes it problematic.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1523942051
168457374,168460670,2018-04-17 05:19:09,"Decentralisation is key. Our movement must have no name. I think 5 man teams is a great way to start. Those who are familiar with the structure of a basic British army battalion will see how we should be structured. See pic related. 
At first communication with a central command should be limited, and should be focused on local 5 man team. i.e. Self improvement and just generally helping each other to be successful - kind of like a smaller freemason lodge. 
>>168460393
>Those two are not incompatible, it is rather his internationalism that makes it problematic
Internationalism is the way forward. We need a 'nationalist internationalism' so that various European and North American movements can provide international aid to each other. Personally, I think this can be done formally through the utilization of blockchain tech. Why we aren't sending the Saffers ETH so they can buy a plane ticket out Im not so sure.",,Anonymous,structure.gif,tA506MA3Ftoy60YqxRuD+w==,GB,,1523942349
168457374,168460726,2018-04-17 05:20:18,">>168460670
Below the platoon level you have three sections consisting of two 5 man teams. We need to build these teams first before we can make up the greater structure.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523942418
168457374,168460851,2018-04-17 05:23:11,">>168460183
Security isn't going to be too much of an issue. The groups of 5 are separate, there is no 1 larger group with leaers an symbols that the media can attack and the government can subvert.
Bt there is going to be a central hub where people can make groups, & they can upload useful advice & information.
>>168460670
This, but not before this- >>168460726
And I think the reason we're not sending the Boers one way tickets out is that they don't want to leave. Most of them on here, from what i've seen, ahve said they'd either stay or flee across the border to another country so they can be nearby.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523942591
168457374,168461024,2018-04-17 05:26:33,">>168457374
what about generation identity? Why isn't /pol/ shilling about IG? why start a new organization when there is one internationaly recognized?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1523942793
168457374,168461042,2018-04-17 05:26:52,">>168460670
But it needs to be built on equal cooperation, not like the EU and the USSR",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1523942812
168457374,168461375,2018-04-17 05:33:33,">>168460851
>Security isn't going to be too much of an issue.
I think you underestimate the levels these (((people))) will go to. 
>The groups of 5 are separate
This is what I tried to convey - my autism makes me inarticulate. Once we have a solid base of 5 man teams then we can go to the next level up. 
>there is no 1 larger group with leaers an symbols that the media can attack and the government can subvert
This. Notice how the 'alt-right' became a mess once it got a label. Think Art of War.
>""Therefore, just as water retains no constant shape, so in warfare there are no constant conditions.""
>>168461042
Yes. If there are hate speech laws in Sweden, send all relevant propaganda material to a US anon to fire back at Sweden. If one movement requires a base of operations, every other movement can send them money spreading the cost, later on, that movement can then repay the favour. The most important element here is that we now have the ability to send value to one and other without the use of a (((bank))).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523943213
168457374,168461636,2018-04-17 05:38:24,">>168461375
Oh, i don't underestimate it. I count on it.
If they're going after groups of 5 for going to the gym, dressing nicely and edcating themselves, then they're going to ahve to admit, in public, the *only* reason they're doing anything wrong in their eyes is because they are right wing.
And making arrests is their only course of action, because they can't ban a group that doesn't exist. The 5 man teams are separate, our online hub is the only connection. If they tried legislation, it'd either be too wide and tread on the left's toes, making them even more enemies, or too narrow and therefore pointless because we can just reform in new groups.
I'm already thinking art of war, anon. The enemy can only make one move, and it would cost them more then it would cost us.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523943504
168457374,168462044,2018-04-17 05:45:26,">>168461636
>Oh, i don't underestimate it. I count on it.
To be honest I'm pretty sure I have been (((warned))) before. How we know that one of us isn't working for (((them))). I have spent much time contemplating how something like this could happen, but I decided against taking action. But with each day, and each chip the (((media))) takes out of me, it brings me closer to action. 
>If they're going after groups of 5 for going to the gym, dressing nicely and edcating themselves, then they're going to ahve to admit, in public, the *only* reason they're doing anything wrong in their eyes is because they are right wing.
This is why it is perfect. We do not explicitly have to state we are right wing either. The Freemasons are non political and do a similar thing to what we have in mind.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523943926
168457374,168462629,2018-04-17 05:56:29,"The Russian Facebook, VK is an option for communication.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523944589
168457374,168462772,2018-04-17 05:59:04,The black sun is the cult that rules the world. They are the Jews and the Jesuits both,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523944744
168457374,168463002,2018-04-17 06:03:54,">>168457374
isnt that communism tho ? communism is bad",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1523945034
168457374,168463436,2018-04-17 06:12:27,Bump,,Anonymous,1506799428534.png,Penl0+lNa9fnGy+3kCFm5w==,GB,,1523945547
168457374,168464366,2018-04-17 06:30:46,">>168462772
>>168463002
Oy vey, the goyim are doing something productive",,Anonymous,Judaism overdrive.jpg,Zlc2QBlbYPFqJdHIrV0RXQ==,GB,,1523946646
168457374,168464489,2018-04-17 06:33:07,">>168464366
how is communism productive ?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1523946787
168457374,168464491,2018-04-17 06:33:11,there's been several large threads on this but have you brits done anything yet?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523946791
168457374,168464583,2018-04-17 06:35:03,">>168464489
It's not, but this isn't communism.
>>168464491
Several is about 4. it's still early days. We'll be organising meetups when the hub is up and running.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523946903
168457374,168464669,2018-04-17 06:36:42,">>168464583
good luck breh
don't LARP too hard, ur a perfect scapegoat if the gov gets onto this",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1523947002
168457374,168465162,2018-04-17 06:46:00,bump,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1523947560
168457374,168466594,2018-04-17 07:14:24,">>168464669
See>>168461636
Let them come.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523949264
168457374,168466963,2018-04-17 07:21:38,">>168464489
Where was communism mentioned in this thread kike?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523949698
168457374,168467211,2018-04-17 07:26:16,">>168466963
It's been bought up in the OP, and a few times in other threads, because the Bolsheiviks also had a policy called Vanguardism.
But we're trying to establish a Nationalist Vanguard, not a communist one.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523949976
168457374,168467386,2018-04-17 07:29:46,">>168467211
Leninism-Bolshevism aren't really communism. Steven Bannon classes himself as a Leninist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523950186
168457374,168467696,2018-04-17 07:35:37,">>168467386
That may be true, I can't claim to be an expert. But Lenin was a communist, and so was the regime that Leninism created. So it has that association, and the point is, we don't.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523950537
168457374,168468680,2018-04-17 07:51:52,stop trying to ban together.,,Anonymous,jordan b peterson.jpg,O8DJtlgNmlhJ1qx5vvH9NA==,US,,1523951512
168457374,168469163,2018-04-17 08:00:18,Bump,,Anonymous,1522712720913.png,0iBwM8WHA8D56Mr7C8+uEw==,GB,,1523952018
168457374,168469798,2018-04-17 08:10:37,">>168469163
Saved. That's some good shit.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1523952637
168457374,168472770,2018-04-17 08:57:01,">>168458414
Not that bad of idea. That way each nation across the world could use it but have their own culture in it. It could work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523955421
168457374,168474034,2018-04-17 09:14:06,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1523956446
168457374,168474618,2018-04-17 09:22:01,">>168461024
 Because theres a huge segment of people on /pol/ who will sperg bloody murder because Generation Identity isn't full 1488 and doesn't name the Jew. The shills barely have to work to make a Generation Identity thread degenerate into shitflinging and mindless drivel.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523956921
168457374,168474905,2018-04-17 09:26:03,">>168474618
This. There's a huge segment of /pol/ that exists to hold back the rest with teenybopper posturing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523957163
168457374,168475332,2018-04-17 09:31:10,">>168474905
 Not to say the JQ isn't valid and the kikes aren't a fucking plague and the source of a good deal of our misery, but redpilling people on it and shifting the public discourse on the Jews is best done anonymously and informally.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523957470
168457374,168475439,2018-04-17 09:32:32,">>168461024
>>168474618
>>168474905
It's also pretty restrictive.
GI could get banned for crossing an as-yet-nonexistant line, so their activism efforts have been limited (with the exception of Defend Europe).
They can't ban something like this, or attack the central authority since there is none. And even if they try, it's easier to simply dissolve a group of 5 and reform it.
Also, while i can appreciate the logic of avoiding certain topics for groups like GI, it'd be nice to have somewhere were we *can* discuss them, and become more confident in our knowledge of it & our ability to debate it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523957552
168457374,168476340,2018-04-17 09:43:50,"bump
any of you burgers from michigan",,Anonymous,,,US,,1523958230
168457374,168476573,2018-04-17 09:46:34,>tfw you are a friendless loser with no idea how to make friends or meet other autists who would join something like this,,Anonymous,1508186241635.jpg,j8yseCNXhdUW3epJpakDbQ==,GB,,1523958394
168457374,168477487,2018-04-17 09:56:40,">>168476573
We'll be setting up /soc/ colonies once there's enogh interest, and i'm in the middle of claiming an abandoned 8 board.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1523959000
168588310,168588310,2018-04-18 06:27:30,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
>What is Vanguardism?
There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,Vanguard.png,RluEZz2pMhwxuJCVWiTQLg==,GB,,1524032850
168588310,168588392,2018-04-18 06:28:40,">What’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
1ST PHASE-
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
2ND PHASE-
>Start volunteering
>Start attending community events
>Start getting involved in local politics and campaigns
Become known, dependable faces in your local community
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates).
Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1524032920
168588310,168588431,2018-04-18 06:29:19,"QUESTIONS & COMPLAINTS
>How do we go about meeting people?
There’s an entire board dedicated to just that. >>>/soc/
We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people. I’d also recommend getting a protonmail account and a gab.ai account, for arranging the meetupsin more detail then a general area.
>I’m a Civic Nationalist, can I join?
No. Civicuckery is doublethink trying to marry what is factual with what is socially acceptable. This is a Nationalist Vanguard, not a Liberalist meetup.
>Do we have a more permanent online base?
We’re getting one, but 4chan doesn’t allow links. One we’ve got enough attention on these threads, I’ll set up a /soc/ colony asking for burner emails and send you the link from there.
>”Start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down.
Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society.
If they wanted to start passing legislation or making arrests, they would have to admit, publicly, that the ONLY reason they are against it is because we are right-wing. And if you’ve been paying attention over the last few years, revealing their hand hasn’t done them any good.
>”Google vanguardism- first result Leninism”
If you google Socialism, you get Marxist theory. Does that make National Socialists Marxists?
>”Isn’t that a fascist symbol? The media could attack us for that, you should change it”
1. This is the symbol of the thread, not the movement, because
2. If you’d been paying attention you’d already know there is no single figure, organisation or symbol for the entire movement, specifically so that the media *can’t* attack us, and
3. If you consider a small display of nationalism like that to be a danger to the movement, then the movement isn’t for you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524032959
168588310,168588845,2018-04-18 06:36:46,>He's not a member of THORN already,,Anonymous,n.jpg,PRwBKCLhl0jYt7D8e7wNgQ==,GB,,1524033406
168588310,168588876,2018-04-18 06:37:22,Bmping with some relevant info.,,Anonymous,Godwinson.gif,16mrkCbNtZwIx0JPYf3Mpg==,GB,,1524033442
168588310,168588920,2018-04-18 06:37:54,Fucking state of LARPtards.,,P.I.M.P C [Big Money],22313.jpg,Rj69j/3VFORTvjNyp5PeDw==,GB,,1524033474
168588310,168588925,2018-04-18 06:38:00,,,Anonymous,1470531036036.png,HbCu3Q5HyrnXgI1O4hSEPw==,GB,,1524033480
168588310,168588954,2018-04-18 06:38:26,">Plans to fix Britain: 1
>Logos created: 72",,P.I.M.P C [Big Money],23232.jpg,FkJtVcZeEv51yS66BATEyg==,GB,,1524033506
168588310,168588961,2018-04-18 06:38:31,,,Anonymous,1522712720913.png,0iBwM8WHA8D56Mr7C8+uEw==,GB,,1524033511
168588310,168589036,2018-04-18 06:40:02,,,Anonymous,1518497051704.jpg,fQrG+cEXY3VFZFA2nqvS2A==,GB,,1524033602
168588310,168589061,2018-04-18 06:40:23,">>168588310
>Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL
r u a fed?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524033623
168588310,168589082,2018-04-18 06:40:38,,,Anonymous,1518497112683.jpg,G24cI63fqby/pw4kCEMNCQ==,GB,,1524033638
168588310,168589113,2018-04-18 06:41:07,">>168589061
No. See >>168588431",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524033667
168588310,168589116,2018-04-18 06:41:13,">>168588961
No, a LARPtard.
Fucking state of Shit/pol/ LARPers.",,P.I.M.P C [Big Money],"flat,800x800,075,f (2).jpg",9+fk54UwqjLsD3A+fGsNAg==,GB,,1524033673
168588310,168589352,2018-04-18 06:45:31,">>168588310
Banned National Action Darlington Speech 05/Nov/2016:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/7oKwX07rIbcZ/",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1524033931
168588310,168589423,2018-04-18 06:46:42,">>168588845
Thorn?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524034002
168588310,168589515,2018-04-18 06:48:26,">>168588310
nice try,shlomo",,Anonymous,ghff.png,/fOHXKkH9D3YmgxRkgSUEw==,,,1524034106
168588310,168589560,2018-04-18 06:49:17,">>168589515
Try reading further than the title next time.
>>168588431",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524034157
168588310,168589681,2018-04-18 06:51:17,"Pretty good idea, but r/soc is an awful place to meet up. If this idea takes off, this general would be a far better place until a more permanent solution is found.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524034277
168588310,168589759,2018-04-18 06:52:35,">>168588310
>>168588392
>>168588431
Like the new layout. Did you get that infichan board already?",,Anonymous,obi-wan.jpg,9yZm33Gp/5bBy0S5fY8ujQ==,FI,,1524034355
168588310,168589858,2018-04-18 06:54:07,">>168589759
Still waiting for an email about the abandoned one i'm trying to claim. If i don't hear back by tomorrow, i'll just have to think of another name for the board.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524034447
168588310,168589984,2018-04-18 06:56:11,>>168589061,,Anonymous,CONCERNED_CITIZEN.jpg,JQ7FOgIPqueB7TC/ni2LVg==,GB,,1524034571
168588310,168591188,2018-04-18 07:15:50,Some more bumps,,Anonymous,1518497769496.jpg,nJh5mNPBeuE51J76e4p23Q==,GB,,1524035750
168588310,168591212,2018-04-18 07:16:07,,,Anonymous,5.png,pk8iE2rmou7JnyDp+UumTQ==,GB,,1524035767
168588310,168591256,2018-04-18 07:16:44,,,Anonymous,14.jpg,bgpdYYdvycxaVYValKQAAw==,GB,,1524035804
168588310,168591860,2018-04-18 07:25:54,">>168591188
Can you recommend some interesting TED talks? 
Also art of manliness has been offline on youtube for a few years now, the old videos are still good, but the same guy makes actively comfy podcasts on spotify that i'd recommend checking out.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1524036354
168588310,168592018,2018-04-18 07:28:29,">>168591860
I don't really watch TED, sorry. But they should have playlists for different subjects or something.
And thanks for the tip, i'll check it out.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524036509
168588310,168592130,2018-04-18 07:30:02,Do larpers realize how pathetic they are?,,Anonymous,,,,,1524036602
168588310,168592193,2018-04-18 07:31:01,">>168592130
Do memeflags?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524036661
168588310,168592396,2018-04-18 07:34:23,Checkin' in.,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524036863
168588310,168592666,2018-04-18 07:38:57,"I propose you include a bi annual anon IRL and online forum, to discuss ideas across movement groups. Anon firstly for the truth to be non factional politic. And a mass forum to solidify the movement and for motivation reasons. And bi annually due to momentum. And lastly and most important such a forum for debate and free speech, and to allow planning to address change and goal setting.
Otherwise this will devolve into disarray.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524037137
168588310,168592910,2018-04-18 07:43:17,">>168592666
>Check'd
There's already going to be an online base for the groups to pass along advice and reccommendations.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524037397
168588310,168593032,2018-04-18 07:45:11,">>168588310
What a load of shit.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524037511
168588310,168593140,2018-04-18 07:46:57,"Just call me when the killing starts, all this waiting and talking has made me lose my boner.",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1524037617
168588310,168593187,2018-04-18 07:47:40,">>168588310
BE PREPARED",,Anonymous,sword-shield.jpg,PdusTQQBHL7nipFWlPacIA==,IE,,1524037660
168588310,168593197,2018-04-18 07:47:50,">>168593032
Care to point out the untrue statements?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524037670
168588310,168593270,2018-04-18 07:49:02,">>168593197
It's pointless and futile. Some LARP that will last a few weeks and then disappear.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524037742
168588310,168593413,2018-04-18 07:51:33,">>168593270
That's not an answer to the question, and a statement is not evidence for itself.
What part of the plan laid out, specifically, is unrealistic?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524037893
168588310,168593603,2018-04-18 07:54:38,>>168592130,,Anonymous,larpposters.png,koJ7AIGMSjXeuY07pEAHFg==,GB,,1524038078
168588310,168593664,2018-04-18 07:55:27,">>168593413
>We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins
>we need to start meeting IRL
This will not happen, people are checking out rather than checking in. Futile. Vanguardism will start with people checking into society which won't happen on here.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524038127
168588310,168593703,2018-04-18 07:56:05,Fascism is eternal.,,Anonymous,Fascist swastika.png,0IDvRYAmKlV86eVGbjVKXQ==,,,1524038165
168588310,168593719,2018-04-18 07:56:23,">>168593664
That's not the plan, that's the introduction.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524038183
168588310,168594377,2018-04-18 08:06:55,">>168593187
We intend to.",,Anonymous,1522982541931.jpg,bTNGXPStTcpcIuOJMLcZCg==,GB,,1524038815
168588310,168594498,2018-04-18 08:08:55,">>168588310
Hehe, I'll add it to my autistic .txt file.
I would HIGHLY reccomend putting all relevant information into either pictures or a pastebin.
Then, instead of text walls, that will be jumped by anons you can just have ONE LINK that you emphasize to be visited.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524038935
168588310,168594751,2018-04-18 08:12:49,">>168594498
It's not a textwall, anon. I've been cutting it down and paragraphing it specifically on your advice.
Anyone who couldn't be bothered to read it now wouldn't be worth welcoming in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524039169
168588310,168595041,2018-04-18 08:17:25,">>168594751
You may be right, but compare how it feels to read these things on the board of 4chan, with the shitty 90s style color scheme, and now compare it to reading through this:
>https://pastebin.com/raw/dnyaTMkZ
And what's more:
there can be more visually stimulating aspects to it.
It isn't that hard to re-format the text a little and put in some ascii-art images too.
I know it sounds pathetic, but this is how things are marketed.
I know, you want idealists, but that is just how it works.
You know what, I'll simply take over the things you wrote and make them all accessible on one raw pastebin link.
That way anons are more inclined to read it all
(despite that not being how the internet works and how it is used, most every person scans and skims, which is why it is so important ot make it super simple in this ADHD riddles world)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524039445
168588310,168595406,2018-04-18 08:22:57,">>168595041
Hehe, and perhaps change the title.
Yeah, I'll do that quickly.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524039777
168588310,168595592,2018-04-18 08:25:45,">>168595041
I have read through that.
The Ascii is barely readable, the text is longer then the OP and far less concise, and you're openly insulting anons who have concerns about honeypots and infiltration.
I appreciate the advice, which is why i followed it. It just doesn't match up to the example you're presenting.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524039945
168588310,168595782,2018-04-18 08:28:23,">>168595592
Okay.
I will revise it.
I was trying to bridge over fear with some humour.
I didn't want to seem condescending,
no hard feelings, m8.
So, should I just forget that all and make it all plain-text?
Or just ditch the Fraktur meme for a clear and readable font?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524040103
168588310,168595986,2018-04-18 08:31:16,">>168595782
I don't mind, really. But i don't see the difference between the ""marketting"" of the patebin and the ""marketting"" of the thread layout.
Also, 4chan has a character limit, so ascii in general isn't a viable option.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524040276
168588310,168596031,2018-04-18 08:31:54,">>168595592
Is this better?
I mean, it shouldn't matter, but the way it all looks is important.",,Anonymous,font.png,gmStdwIIy+ut19CxsHOBnQ==,DE,,1524040314
168588310,168596068,2018-04-18 08:32:27,">>168596031
See >>168595986",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524040347
168588310,168596144,2018-04-18 08:33:42,">>168595986
Well, having the ascii in-thread wasn't my idea.
I meant to say:
""One could perhaps make an OP that calls all attention to one pastebin link, wherein all the important stuff is ordered top to bottom in descending importance.
The idea behind this is, that the anon will be in a new tab and have only the writing on his screen, with no next post to scroll wond to.""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524040422
168588310,168596527,2018-04-18 08:38:58,">>168596144
So an OP with no information about what we're trying to acheive?
Presumably so all these ADHD anons, instead of skipping the text, can just skip the link and complain that there's no information at all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524040738
168588310,168596710,2018-04-18 08:41:51,"I'd love to participate, but I highly doubt the presence of like minded people around here. I am a white separatist. Most I can hope for is integralist larpers.
If by any luck there are, I am located in Santa Catarina.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1524040911
168588310,168596713,2018-04-18 08:41:56,">>168588310
Liberalistismists unite!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524040916
168588310,168596734,2018-04-18 08:42:11,">>168596527
Well, that is a possibility.
I guess we should perhaps try both methods.
Put the link in at the top, so that anons can find it all easily when another anon tells them about the location of all the info.
That way it can be easily saved, and other anons can start Vanguardism threads as well.
And after that, there could be the things that are all collected in that pastebin.
Or the important and currently relevant selection of it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524040931
168588310,168596924,2018-04-18 08:44:50,">>168596734
So essentially just ""make a pastebin so other people can start threads and put new information on there as it comes.""
Ok, great advice.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524041090
168588310,168597043,2018-04-18 08:46:33,">>168596710
Stick around, anon. Once we start making /soc/ colonies, you're bound to find some people to meet up with. >>168588431",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524041193
168588310,168597285,2018-04-18 08:50:10,">>168596924
Okay.
It isn't relevant then.
I thought it could have helbed:
OP-Post:
*attention drawing text*

*attention drawing text*
Post 1:

Post 2:

...and so forth
So, that is all.
Should have communicated like this right off the bat.
So, that is all, first post contains all resources
(pastebin + image folders / collections in the future?)
and some was to call attention to this fact.
Then follow the currently relevant posts.
Sorry if that idea is dumb.",,Anonymous,Msm_Shills_Dishonesty_Children_Fewer_Whites_More_Apes_Fake_News_Lies_Loxism.png,ekUrmvpCBxbMuNZdNkba4Q==,DE,,1524041410
168588310,168597336,2018-04-18 08:50:50,">>168592130
>>168589116
What's the problem with ""LARPing""? Commies do that. There's nothing wrong with being young and wanting to change the world.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1524041450
168588310,168597491,2018-04-18 08:53:12,">>168597285
So now we're back to the OP just being some kind of visual experience, instead of actually explaining what we're trying to do?
Thank you for the advice, anon, it' been helpful for the most part.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524041592
168588310,168598108,2018-04-18 09:02:31,">>168597491
Okay, I'll shut up now.
I'll just shoot you the changed version of the pastebin archive.
Yes, the resources were supposed to be first.
So that if an anon only does a single thing, saving these resources is what he does.
I mean, all we really have here is the internt, and focusing on the proliferation and spread of the 
ideas and images is really the only thing we can do.
And all that irl stuff, but only a tiny, tiny minority of anons will ever go beyond posting images and memes.
So that was my reasoning.
But maybe you can reform this, I wish you good luck either way, and will try to help a litte.
If I am just annoying, have no qualms telling me this, I can fuck off back to Kraut/pol/, it's just shitposting over there anyways.
Is this general supposed to be a transnational effort by the way?
I mean, from your material I gather that this idea is secondary, but I imagine, that if there were the
attitude of making the shitposting power into a sort of ""cloud"" that can focus on the single countries when important events take place would be stronger than anons of separate countries working separately.
That is why I want there to be some sort of ""archive"", even if it is full of stupid things like the Swedish ""Skurt"".
I know it is cringy, but this kind of stuff can influence a lot of people, being fun and mocking the enemy is a powerful tool imho.
Correct me if I am wrong, though.
In fact, /SWEG/ even got some media attention:
https://kek.gg/i/7jHpHV.png",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524042151
168588310,168598442,2018-04-18 09:07:28,">>168598108
>And all of that IRL stuff
You mean the core of what we're trying to acheive.
I'm already working on an online base for the groups to use over on 8.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524042448
168588310,168599021,2018-04-18 09:16:01,">>168598442
>over on 8
Ah!
I'll check it out.
Okay, sorry then.
I will just archive the stuff for you and use a more readable font.
Is there anything specifically that I could help with?
And I do apologize if my focus on the pastebin thing was a bother.
I just had never seen something like it tried, and thought it was worth discussing.
And I have a nack for design/aesthetic questions, so I guess I got hung up on the fonts thing.
Haha.
See you in a few minutes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524042961
168588310,168599199,2018-04-18 09:18:25,">>168599021
Nothing specifically at the moment, the threads are just about drumming up interest right now.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524043105
168588310,168599428,2018-04-18 09:22:00,">>168599199
Okay, cheers!
Now if you don't want to talk about fonts anymore, then just skip this.
Is pic related too big?
Or is it okay for a single use top-hierarchy title?
I do believe that there is a certain effect to the first visual impression one gets when opening the archive.
It might be that the appearance inclines people to actually scroll through it a little.
Or draws the attention away, heh.",,Anonymous,title.png,wME6hxVEYem5i1wHg3peHg==,DE,,1524043320
168588310,168599441,2018-04-18 09:22:08,">>168589036
Add this to one of the posts next time OP. Change it how you want. Good reading material here.
https://pastebin.com/9RrgN0RZ",,Anonymous,1387658560664.png,ei74q+lJs59tMEq6QaMD9A==,GB,,1524043328
168588310,168599634,2018-04-18 09:24:43,">>168599428
For the top of the pastebin, you mean.
It looks fine, readbale 7 aesthetic.
>>168599441
Nice find, thanks anon!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524043483
168588310,168599683,2018-04-18 09:25:16,">>168599634
readable & aesthetic*
Sorry, phonepoting rn",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524043516
168588310,168599867,2018-04-18 09:27:40,">>168599634
You're welcome anon. Made it for this general really. Glad I could help.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524043660
168588310,168600076,2018-04-18 09:30:42,">>168599441
>https://pastebin.com/9RrgN0RZ
Really nice.
I haven't looked at it in detail; but is this of any help?
here:
https://pastebin.com/raw/fhEj9MPK
There was also once that very long list of resources-link to mega.nz downloads for books, posted in /sig/ often
and that other single mega.nz link with basically all books from the images on which books to take a look at.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524043842
168588310,168600174,2018-04-18 09:32:00,">>168599634
>>168599683
Okay.
Thanks for your patience.
Will try to gether all the stuff now.
Would you mind telling me if I missed something when I link it later?
Just don't reply if you mean to say ""yes"".
Just leade a ""No"" if not.
I want to spare you the pain that is phoneposting.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524043920
168588310,168600277,2018-04-18 09:33:51,">>168600076
I'll see what I can find in the list. I'll get good ones and I'll update it later. Thanks for this.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524044031
168588310,168600497,2018-04-18 09:36:59,">>168600277
No problem.
I'm glad I can help.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524044219
168588310,168601767,2018-04-18 09:55:17,">>168589515
Always the same shit. Up your game, shills.",,Anonymous,1522357096018.jpg,r6WhJpVjxoT/hHX0FzZbZQ==,NL,,1524045317
168588310,168601778,2018-04-18 09:55:27,"Wait am i banned?
Oh seems like not. Did say so a while go though. Wierd considering this is the only thread i've posted today.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1524045327
168588310,168602421,2018-04-18 10:03:24,">>168593187
I hope the message will inspire more folks to see the light.",,Anonymous,14718439_104024836738982_1868029698215247872_n.jpg,u6nS1JD9DLxiTE3xKIBhqw==,NL,,1524045804
168588310,168603165,2018-04-18 10:12:51,">>168588310
Your apocalypticism is retarded but I like the idea of having well socialised right wing folks becoming visible members of the community. I'll hit the gym with anyone in (((south west London))), I like climbing too and I can cook very well.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524046371
168588310,168603348,2018-04-18 10:15:27,">>168603165
It's not apocalypticism, it's just the way our economies are structured make a crash inevitable. See pic related in >>168588392
But thanks for the support. We post the threads every day, and we'll be setting up /soc/ colonies once there's enough interest so we can find each other. >>168588431",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524046527
168588310,168605464,2018-04-18 10:42:47,Shameless self-bump,,Anonymous,08B70C02-BEB9-4D1F-98B9-00503C12AAE5.jpg,hAtpb6++tRBAD9B2rrSD2Q==,GB,,1524048167
168588310,168605476,2018-04-18 10:42:58,,,Anonymous,1b.jpg,uOj8A9JiJ4gEgJfDXflLJA==,GB,,1524048178
168588310,168605849,2018-04-18 10:47:08,"I'll dump some nationalist / fascist stuff, I guess.",,Anonymous,Fascism vs White Nationalism.jpg,mCZxBGqCyvF5ChFgIPp+eA==,IE,,1524048428
168588310,168605902,2018-04-18 10:47:43,,,Anonymous,Fascism vs Alt Right.png,mOgvyxl/1B6mhJTsy61elw==,IE,,1524048463
168588310,168605923,2018-04-18 10:48:02,">>168605849
Thanks for the help, anon. Should start to pick up again after 5, just a matter of keeping it bumped.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524048482
168588310,168605930,2018-04-18 10:48:08,,,Anonymous,Britpill lit.jpg,5naMjF6w8cvzfm1/HYc9cg==,IE,,1524048488
168588310,168606053,2018-04-18 10:49:50,">>168605923
No problem, man. I was thinking if this manages to get a few more Paddys involved, a worthwhile effort would be learning Irish. Everybody's got a little bit over here, but very few are fluent.",,Anonymous,Decline of Native Irish Speakers.jpg,OkBtMIGa5uYLihOTaReueA==,IE,,1524048590
168588310,168606143,2018-04-18 10:50:57,,,Anonymous,IrishLit.png,fmsN/fW+Vgeu7VQMbR6AQw==,IE,,1524048657
168588310,168606214,2018-04-18 10:51:48,,,Anonymous,82.8 per cent.jpg,rvRCfYwsNcEkZhSM94iB+g==,IE,,1524048708
168588310,168606277,2018-04-18 10:52:35,,,Anonymous,Being British.png,L1IBpyo392/NpF/V+kossQ==,IE,,1524048755
168588310,168606427,2018-04-18 10:54:20,,,Anonymous,redpill lit.jpg,BdFzaRL/Kf/PXvw/zFn9Zg==,IE,,1524048860
168588310,168606452,2018-04-18 10:54:42,,,Anonymous,redpill lit 01.jpg,TZJjz9syk9eoTzCjurXhBw==,IE,,1524048882
168588310,168606485,2018-04-18 10:55:00,,,Anonymous,redpill lit 02.jpg,W44zCItvFYLPkaFxbcaZEA==,IE,,1524048900
168588310,168606642,2018-04-18 10:56:41,">>168606452
>>168606485
These two are just closer looks at some sections of this >>168606427 so look into whatever you like.",,Anonymous,Sadiq Khan.jpg,W4qZ8OMEAgMK67FWFAhlag==,IE,,1524049001
168588310,168606735,2018-04-18 10:57:56,">>168606053
I was thinking something similar. The first goal of the Vanguard is to preserve the Nation, after all. And it's a great shame that most in the Angloshpere grow up functionally monolingual.
I'm going to be making a thread for language learning resources in the hub; if you find any for Irish, drop me a link.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524049076
168588310,168606942,2018-04-18 11:00:22,">>168606735
There's usually good resource in the Éire/pol/ threads for Irish dictionaries and stuff.",,Anonymous,24 Rules.png,0w/Gn9RejqdYPHBs3bL/ew==,IE,,1524049222
168588310,168607137,2018-04-18 11:02:23,,,Anonymous,Diversity and Civic Nationalism.png,09ZdVQvoMmSmTdXqCFQbBQ==,IE,,1524049343
168588310,168607142,2018-04-18 11:02:25,">>168606942
Thanks, i'll keep an eye out for the next one.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524049345
168588310,168607250,2018-04-18 11:03:42,">>168607142
Do. There's a few people that post in them that speak Irish to each other, so they're also a great place to put what you learn into practice.",,Anonymous,Civic Nationalists.png,2ZzoW0VInGCz6GwIbNkOuw==,IE,,1524049422
168588310,168607356,2018-04-18 11:04:55,">>168588310
Interesting topic. Here's a related text developing what I recommend to my fellow Frenchmen:
>Non-violence but change of methodology
We must go underground. Firstly because we are de facto being pushed to do so, and secondly because the work of abolishing the occupation government must be made much more difficult.
There is a good chance that the political police will plead not to dissolve any movements, making the intelligence work much harder. But a Jewish government is by nature irrational and consumed by the anguish of its illegitimacy. These technical arguments will not convince him to let the nationalists operate in the open.
Nationalists must now, in principle, opt for an underground, localized and autonomous type of organization as opposed to an official, centralized and hierarchical one.
This does not mean that nationalists will be engaged in violent actions - we have said and repeated that any such action should be avoided at all costs, in accordance with our non-violent line - but that they have understood that the notion of legality has disappeared with the corruption that now prevails in the courts and the flight forward of the Jewish occupation government.
We must get rid of the idea of bourgeois officiality which still has far too much prestige in our circles and which goes back to a bygone era. Any action of nationalist opposition and identity will be destroyed if it begins to have a small success, even marginal. All efforts will have been in vain.
This scenario must therefore not be repeated over and over again.",,Anonymous,,,MO,,1524049495
168588310,168607379,2018-04-18 11:05:12,">Interactive networks
1. No political posters
The best method is to create clubs unrelated to politics: sports, reading, shooting (legal) sports, whatever. These clubs will be places where our supporters - the nationalists, all currents - will gather, without fanfare or trumpet.
In this way, they will be able to rent rooms, preferably in rural areas where the National Front has very good scores, a guarantee of a solid base in the population. And generally speaking, operate in a favourable environment.
The activities don't even have to be political in themselves at first: barbecue, hiking, concert, whatever. On the other hand, it is necessary to avoid all public places and very singularly bars where the political police have snitches in the person of the tenants.
Never forget: when you talk in a bar, you are listened to.
Similarly, avoid arguments or forums and say nothing about Facebook pages.
Go through Telegram or Signal, or Ricochet, between you. Telegram can be decrypted, but not easily. It is a plus to answer a point of detail without major importance.
Of course, forget all elaborate discussions over the phone and even meetings.
To set appointments: a handwritten note signed in the mailbox well in advance.",,Anonymous,,,MO,,1524049512
168588310,168607401,2018-04-18 11:05:28,"2. Organization of interactive local networks
Ideally, we must act on a territory endowed with a historical identity that allows individuals to coagulate in the same mental time space. Let's say, for example, Burgundy or Alsace.
You have clubs in these regions and you also have one or more information sites for these regions but which can evoke the news in a general way.
These sites inform all clubs and sympathizing residents about what is happening in the area.
If necessary, if there is an action to be taken, it is carried out under an ad hoc banner. For example, if it is an illegal migrant settlement, the ""No to illegal migrants in X"" banner. You get the idea.
It is therefore a question of organizing what are called ""interactive networks"". Keep that name in mind.
When the information sites launch an operation, in informal consultation with the clubs, everyone reacts and mobilizes. And this mobilization actually reaches all potential readers of the sites, in addition to club members. The network is launching an initiative and has no idea who will react to it.",,Anonymous,,,MO,,1524049528
168588310,168607443,2018-04-18 11:05:57,"3. Club Structure
Each club ideally has 3 executives.
The first is responsible for recruitment and field action.
The second is responsible for information gathering (intelligence) and propaganda (news sites, one or two).
The third is logistics and member training.
Thanks to this interactive, decentralized and non-hierarchical organization, the Jewish occupation government will be unable to destroy an elusive movement that has no structured reality as we usually understand it.
So, create clubs without political displays. Recruit by word of mouth. Collect and disseminate information. Act on the scale of a region, a department or a city, not beyond. Maintain the link between all supporters and sympathizers of the above-mentioned area through one or more information sites with a rather moderate identity appearance and without formal links with the clubs. Act if necessary for specific non-violent actions (demonstrations, actions in support of the population, etc.).
Ideally, we should focus on the hinterland, what is called ""peripheral France"".",,Anonymous,,,MO,,1524049557
168588310,168607692,2018-04-18 11:08:48,">>168607379
>>168607401
>>168607443
>RARE
And also pretty insightful, thanks anon. It's pretty much what we're trying to do here, only with all-round social clubs with an express political leaning.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524049728
168588310,168607925,2018-04-18 11:11:13,">>168607379
Bump for relevance.
Signal is the best end-to-end encrypted texting service. It cloaks your texts & calls as ""cell data"" going thru cell towers, & stingrays cannot readily decrypt this data.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524049873
168588310,168609241,2018-04-18 11:26:24,">>168588392
why the fuck would you split up again instead of growing the group. this is dumb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524050784
168588310,168609619,2018-04-18 11:30:37,">>168609241
Because the group doesn't need to grow any further once everyone's in a good routine and in a position in the community. What we need is to start passing that experience onto more people and to build the network, which splitting up and staying in contact will do.
And if the groups don't stay together for very long, there's less risk of a banhammer.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524051037
168588310,168610466,2018-04-18 11:39:43,">>168605464
Anon,
here is the updated, cleaned and ordered archive.
https://pastebin.com/raw/GP9jmnFx
I might type off the futurist's post from the first image after the OP and add it in too.
Good idea or nah?
Oh, and by the way, using the /raw/ in the pastebin link makes it much more accessible and faster to absorb.
And I think it is better presentation; or am I being autistic?
Either way, the archive is about 14.88% less autistic now; I guess it's an improvement!",,Anonymous,Anime_Watamote_Tomoko_Kuroki_Autism_Intensifies_Ripping_Panties_Gif.gif,m5g98rjE7sD/vVL0wGRJjA==,DE,,1524051583
168588310,168610844,2018-04-18 11:43:38,">>168588392
if all groups had specifically 5 members wouldn't this be a give away for the glowing ones?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524051818
168588310,168610982,2018-04-18 11:45:11,">>168610844
5 is a maximum, I'd assume. It's a comfy number.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524051911
168588310,168611204,2018-04-18 11:47:26,">>168610466
Honestly, I think i understand what you were saying a little better now. That is a lot more aesthetic then what i was expecting, thank you!
I'll work it into the OP from now on.
>>168610844
Possibly, but there wouldn't be much they could do about it.
Also this >>168610982",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524052046
168588310,168611504,2018-04-18 11:50:26,">>168610466
>>168610466
>>168609619
Oh, the funny thing about having the link to what is contained in the archive in the archive pastebin itslef creates a chain by the way.
That unwantedly (really though?) the possibility to go back in the history and shape of the archive.
That's the problem; I can't paste the newest version of the Vanguard Archive to pastebin, create a new pastebin link/save and have that new save contain the even newer link to the current version.
Is there any way to make a Pastebin that will contain its own link?
Is there any way to predict what the next link of a pastebin will be?
Because knowing in advance what the link will be and then writing that link into what you will save on pastebin is the only way that I can fathom that this funny ""use the link in the pastebin you just opened and get one version further into the past""-exploit/loop closed.
>>168611204
>I'll work it into the OP from now on.
Yay!
>Tfw I just made my first contribution to a Neonazi movement?
Or are we ""relatively"" kosher?
:=)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524052226
168588310,168611575,2018-04-18 11:51:09,">>168589116
Fuck off faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524052269
168588310,168611584,2018-04-18 11:51:13,/SIG/ is up >>168595497,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524052273
168588310,168611624,2018-04-18 11:51:37,">>168611575
>Fuck off faggot.
Dis desu",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524052297
168588310,168611784,2018-04-18 11:53:29,">>168588310
I wish Americans would do something like this. Good work bump. Also ignore the faggots who just try to derail your thread with larping accusations.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524052409
168588310,168612051,2018-04-18 11:56:24,">>168588310
Gay cringy alt-right online LARP fest #448735
this is so stupid and clearly just for people with not a lot going on in their lives. This shit always comes back around to faggots making up their own little flags and symbols and uniforms in what ends up being a glorified arts and crafts project.",,Anonymous,272d3f1985fbb13fd8701390fa2c8723--eyes.jpg,SZWdfu4OjNMx5Q1a3MSyOw==,US,,1524052584
168588310,168612322,2018-04-18 11:59:27,">>168611784
Thanks anon. And don't worry about him, he's just a side effect of advertising on brit/pol/. He goes away if people stop responding so i usually filter his ID.
>>168611504
relative to how kosher the laws are on talking about certain subjects in certain areas... but we're partly a discussion group after all, we woldn't want to restrict any ideas for discussion.
>>168611584
Thanks, I've put a link to here over there.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524052767
168588310,168612611,2018-04-18 12:02:25,">>168612051
It's not alt-right, that label's dead as aforce for change. It's also not online, that's kind of the point. Or a LARP, since we're not doing anything unrealistic or dressing it up as a movement to save the west.
Or making flags, symbols and uniforms, for that matter, that would defeat the point of not being a single collective group.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524052945
168588310,168613556,2018-04-18 12:11:48,">>168612322
Hehe, okay.
At this point it doesn't really matter, does it?
We are literally gonna have civil war in Europe without radical change anyways.
Funny thing is, Sweden has 160 (!) for every 100 girls under 20 (I think); so now add into the equation that many of the Girls are native and probably not coalburner sluts, that alone is programmed to cause conflict.
""Youth bulge theory"" is a concept that comes to mind.
I wish it weren't so hard to get access to guns here in Cuckmany.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524053508
168588310,168613660,2018-04-18 12:12:44,">>168612051
Feel free to leave, anon.
:^)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524053564
168588310,168613720,2018-04-18 12:13:28,">>168613556
>Sweden has 160 (!) for every 100 girls under 20 (I think)
Sweden has 160(!) *Boys* for every 100 girls under 20 (I think)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524053608
168588310,168613942,2018-04-18 12:15:25,">>168613556
Americans have access to guns and they aren't doing shit with them. What makes you think germans would?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524053725
168588310,168614150,2018-04-18 12:17:11,">>168613556
Could alwys be worse, anon.
Could always be worse...",,Anonymous,loisenceball.gif,p7Us/awjuf9x4EJYPwiZ2g==,GB,,1524053831
168588310,168614199,2018-04-18 12:17:37,">>168613942
Oh, I have no intentions of starting shit.
Thanks for caring for me BKA/CIA/NSA-kun :3
But I would see it as a sort of insurance in case sectarian conflicts break out (which they will at this rate).",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524053857
168588310,168614324,2018-04-18 12:18:44,">>168614150
Haha, man, Anon...
Gott hat England genug gestraft, keine Brüderkriege mehr!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524053924
168588310,168614382,2018-04-18 12:19:15,">>168614150
Kek",,Anonymous,How to legally buy & keep guns in France.png,2oinI3U8ruq2P0O7mxuPNg==,IE,,1524053955
168588310,168614696,2018-04-18 12:22:17,">>168614324
Indeed. Never again.",,Anonymous,44.jpg,DIGcyexrGhllb9Crno//5w==,GB,,1524054137
168588310,168614709,2018-04-18 12:22:27,">>168612051
Pretty much this. Honestly, I can't take this seriously just for the fact that these groups always incorporate really obvious fascist symbols into their flags and imagry.
Get over it losers, fascism lost. Hard. Even secretly profascist normies are reuplsed by facist imagry because it's the symbolism of losers.
These groups are almost always just power hungry history/milsim nerds who just want to LARP in clothes they think look cool. Just stick to your warhammer games and reenactment airsoft games. If you went out and actually reclaimes even just one block of a no go zone or wiped out a single local grooming gang then I might take y'all seriously.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524054147
168588310,168614822,2018-04-18 12:23:40,>>168614709,,Anonymous,1505862172789.png,a/1nTLvyfqq6DTUIrKn73A==,GB,,1524054220
168588310,168614970,2018-04-18 12:25:13,">>168614822
>that flag
Oh man, just when I thought I had seen all the rake and leaf memes.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524054313
168588310,168615041,2018-04-18 12:25:53,"Some body once told me the rake is gonna take me I ain't the dryest leaf in the pile she was looking kind of nice with her handle and her tines in the shape of an ""E"" on her rake-head now the leafs start coming and they don't stop
coming fed to the heap and I clip the mulch crumbling didn't make sense to fall off to fail your sound gets crisper but your flex grows frail so much to do so much to see so what's wrong with crushing the leaf heap you'll never crinkle
if you don't grow you'll never fly if you don't flow hey now you're a red leaf get your tone on get blown hey now you're a red leaf get your drought on get raked and all the leaflets grow old only leaf collections escape the mold it's a
cool place and they say it gets colder you're starting to dry wait 'til the season is over but the landscaper men beg to differ judging by the workers with the metal-made pitchers the mowers quaked and started to spin the grass is
getting mowed I am going to get skimmed my pile's on fire how about your's that's the way I like it and I quickly get torched hey now you're a red leaf get your tone on get blown hey now you're a red leaf get your drought on get raked
and all the leaflets grow old only leaf collections escape the mold somebody once asked could I spare nitrates for grass I need to get myself through to the light-waves I said yep what a concept I could use a little growth myself and we
all could use a little change well the years start coming and they don't stop coming fed to the heap and I clip the mulch crumbling didn't make sense to fall off to fail your sound gets crisper but your flex grows frail so much to do so
much to see so what's wrong with crushing the leaf heap you'll never crinkle if you don't grow you'll never fly if you don't flow hey now you're a red leaf get your tone on get blown hey now you're a red leaf get your drought on get
raked and all the leaflets grow old only leaf collections escape the mold only leaf collections escape the mold
>Krautism",,Anonymous,Muhammad_Raped_Goats_Sunna_Sunnah_Loving_His_Camel_Camelfucker_Isn't_A_Meme_It_Seems.jpg,Tg9Fziqina+09+SPX5n4Hg==,DE,,1524054353
168588310,168615066,2018-04-18 12:26:04,">>168614199
Yea yea yea anyone calling>>168614324
 out the ""Id rebel if only I had a gun"" fags is a shill. It wouldn't matter if you had a gun if shit broke down (which it wont) because you have a weak attitude and.wouldnt use it anyways, either getting.killed for it by some brutal shitskin or handing it over to government troops in order to join a refugee column.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524054364
168588310,168615325,2018-04-18 12:28:25,">>168615066
We once owned a third of Africa and YOU are the worst colony.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524054505
168588310,168615542,2018-04-18 12:30:51,">>168614822
You can't even stop chubby balding muzzies from raping your daughters lol I'd shove that rake up your ass if you hadn't already done it yourself.
1 million brit girls browned lol",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524054651
168588310,168616276,2018-04-18 12:38:15,Bumping thread for attention,,Anonymous,meditation.jpg,MylTMeggqmssYfXVdXxC2w==,GB,,1524055095
168588310,168616292,2018-04-18 12:38:22,">>168615066
>It wouldn't matter if you had a gun if shit broke down (which it wont) because you have a weak attitude and.wouldnt use it anyways, either getting.killed for it by some brutal shitskin or handing it over to government troops in order to join a refugee column.
Hey, I have my plans.
I would want to be with the people who are dear to me and move to the country.
Also, primarily I think of the guns as defensive, not offensive.
If need be I'd shoot a person dead, probably.
Let me tell you of an altercation I got into:
I had thought about how the heck I could defend myself, as there had been cases of migrant-sided-enrichment in my town, not just women or children, they came in groups of 2-3 against one.
I always carry a swiss pocket knife.
Now, of course using the knife itself is as much of a risk to me as my assailant, it could fold back on my fingers.
So I played around with it.
Knuckle dusters are banned.
But I figured if I extend the corkscrew tool, it makes a nice little thorn that protrude from between
my middle and ring finger when I clench it in my fist.
Now, I was not strong.
I was at the lower end of average bmi.
A little less than 6'1''.
(And still am, but I'm working on it)
My option is to hit and run, but primarily gtfo in any case as first option.
There was a group of shittigrants on my side of the walk, like 2 years ago.
I switched sides.
They switched too.
I put my hand into my right pocket and unfolded the corkscrew tool.
I went and once they were close they blocked my way.
I was extremely careful to not loose my nerves.
I stepped aside and tried to walk around them.
Blocked again.
Step aside again.
Blocked.
I really don't want to escalate, the victims are treated worse than the agressors here in Cuckmany.
At this point I am to the left next to a house wall.
There is an arch of shitskins around me.
One says ""money"".
For a moment I consider just handing the money over.
100 ,- isn't something to die over.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524055102
168588310,168616315,2018-04-18 12:38:38,,,Anonymous,No Fap.png,QIFuT07cmEKKz2QFRxjj7g==,GB,,1524055118
168588310,168616341,2018-04-18 12:38:49,">>168615542
>Leaf thinks this is what banter is
>Leaf doesn't know how desperate this looks
>Leaf thinks he can insult other countries",,Anonymous,laughing4.gif,FhE30dAtUvM3rnd6j9ca5A==,GB,,1524055129
168588310,168616970,2018-04-18 12:45:06,">>168588310
I am all for making a better society and etc. But would I be accepted even if my wife is Japanese?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524055506
168588310,168617057,2018-04-18 12:45:57,">>168616970
A FUCKING LEAF
F
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168588310,168617594,2018-04-18 12:51:35,">>168616292
But then I get pissed.
Fuck it, why the fuck did I even have to consider all these things?
I decide to be defient.
""Fuck off"" I say
At this point I am shaking visibly.
I am just waiting for one of those niggers get physical.
And lo and behold, the moneynigger swings at me.
Not gonna lie; pretty painful, but I bent my head down, so he hits my forehead.
He gets a little pain too; sharing is caring.
I am a little dazed for a second,
once I come to my senses, which was only like 3 seconds I know what I have to do
I pull out the opened cork-screw knuckle duster and deck that fucker the hardest I can
niggerhowls.mp3
I run as fast as I can and get as far away as I can.
After a few minutes I get scared that they might turn this against me in court.
I consider not calling the police.
But I decide I'd fuck myself over even more if I did that.
So I call the police.
Turns out the dude that I punched now has a hole in his cheek
Welp, this is it.
At least I stood against the pest.
Luckily I find out that there was a camera from the store accross the road filming me.
Thanks fucking god, I was unironically gonna kill myself with a ratchet tie;
if I get a sentencing my life would have been over anyways.
About 2 moths later I have to go to the first hearings.
Yeah, let me make it short, I really don't wanna write about it that much more.
As much as we are edgy on here, looks like I'm a soft faggot after all,
so maybe you are right, leag.
I feel bad and I am pretty uneasy even now.
I end up getting nothing but a moralizing warning from the judge.
No consequences besides wrecked nerves.
But I really never want to get into something like that again.
But if I had to, I would probably use a gun too.
So, you may be right, I am a faggot perhaps, but I'm at least a faggot that stands up for himself.
I'll go lay down a little now, I don't feel well.
Bye, and stop being such an efgelord.
It doesn't feel any good irl, like, it really doesn't feel good.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524055895
168588310,168617984,2018-04-18 12:55:17,">>168614709
How deluded can one be? Fascism is the normal transition of traditional and European order societies in the industrial era, along with appropriate answers to the current paradigm, variating from a country to another. Fascism doesn't die, or lose. Fascism is nature, it's inside all of us, (((they))) simply want to bury it by making us hate ourselves and create artificial societies and cultures, destroying all the others through interbreeding.",,Anonymous,,,MO,,1524056117
168588310,168618117,2018-04-18 12:56:29,">>168616970
>My wife is Japanese
Why do y-
>see flag
>A FUGGIN LEEF :DDD",,Anonymous,wad.png,zWYasSMOb086uK1re3BPgA==,GB,,1524056189
168588310,168618427,2018-04-18 12:59:21,">>168615041
(you)",,Anonymous,53f.jpg,MUcGWQ4XP3Xn9Ps7Ch+5EQ==,GB,,1524056361
168588310,168618635,2018-04-18 13:01:26,">>168616970
define ""accepted""",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524056486
168588310,168618709,2018-04-18 13:02:19,">>168618117
>>168617057
feels bad, I just live here and I hate it, so many niggers and middle easterners.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524056539
168588310,168619058,2018-04-18 13:06:08,">>168618709
Don't feel bad, man.
Even in Leafland, there's hope as long as the people who built it still have descendants they can be proud of.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524056768
168588310,168620330,2018-04-18 13:18:50,self-bump,,Anonymous,1522010395012.png,IXnMHpk6ILtsXAI0tHto/A==,GB,,1524057530
168588310,168620567,2018-04-18 13:21:10,">>168619058
bro you don't understand, we are fucked here. Take a trip to any major city and it is infested to the brim with niggers and Muslims. I am a minority. The economy is absolutely fucked and most people work for the government doing shit all. I mean you can just not show up and no one cares. They can't fire you, half the people in it don't speak English or french. 
I like the small towns where it is only white people. Although many niggers are slowly moving in. Already turning very small areas into ghettos. I just want to live in a place with no niggers and muslims, Japan is a great place, even though I don't fit in, I enjoy not dealing with or seeing niggers. Clean, smells good, nice people, this is what we should have too",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524057670
168588310,168620583,2018-04-18 13:21:20,">>168606735
>>168606942
I'd recommend this one for starters to anyone: http://www.pimsleur.com/learn-irish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524057680
168588310,168620686,2018-04-18 13:22:34,">>168620567
>this is what we should have too
And that's exactly what we would have had if previous generations hadn't cucked, what a gift they've left for us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524057754
168588310,168620881,2018-04-18 13:24:29,">>168588310
Going to start one of these for Levantine Christians. We lag a little behind the white nords/germanics on the arc of degeneracy but it’s still in the wrong direction..but might be easier to bring everyone back to the ideal state... good luck, anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524057869
168588310,168620979,2018-04-18 13:25:42,">>168589116
At least you’re decent enough to tripfag so we can mute you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524057942
168588310,168621269,2018-04-18 13:28:34,">>168588431
>There’s an entire board dedicated to just that. >>>/soc/
>We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people
/soc/ is a shithole full of ""rate my dick"" threads. how about voiceanything.com? some anon mentioned it on /pol/ the other day. for some reason it seems to be down right now though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524058114
168588310,168621389,2018-04-18 13:29:58,">>168620567
>You don't understand, we are fucked here
You realise you're saying this to a Bong?
>>168620881
You too, mate. Keep that candle burning.
>>168621269
I've seen /pol/ and /int/ colonies over there before, they've (mostly) been able to keep the degeneracy out.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524058198
168588310,168621466,2018-04-18 13:30:47,">>168618427
I am really not happy about it.
Every day when that dude looks into the mirror he will think of me.
And he will be hateful.
And even when it is not for him that I feel bad for;
he might attack my fellow countrymen.
I am really not proud of that.
That is why I am generally opposed to violence.
I wish we could just send them all back.
I will have to carry that with me for the rest of my life, and I will always feel guilty,
even if some people here unironically think him to be less human due to his racial origin.
Am I going to hell, I feel so guilty...",,Anonymous,1347998477942.gif,pNpytZObyTZxfHbylXmNMA==,DE,,1524058247
168588310,168621552,2018-04-18 13:31:37,">>168588392
>Start going to the gym together
>Start cooking together
>Start dressing nice
sounds like some gay shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524058297
168588310,168621734,2018-04-18 13:33:35,>>168621466,,Anonymous,1523257322297.png,kIe0l1rKo4Iu84GEPN7gAg==,GB,,1524058415
168588310,168622032,2018-04-18 13:36:29,">>168621466
Jesus, Kraut.
It's not your fault, you don't have to feel guilty for defending yourself. You didn't do anything wrong.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524058589
168588310,168622447,2018-04-18 13:40:24,">>168621466
Pucker your asshole Hans, things are going to get a hell of a lot worse in the years ahead. Emmanuel Macron recently unveiled plans to turn Europe into “Eurabia” by inviting 200 million Africans into Europe over the next thirty years. Don’t you get it? Your government wants you DEAD. Jews want to exterminate white people as part of their plans for world domination. You’ve got much bigger things to worry about... 
Jesus Christ. The brainwashing... what have we done to you?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524058824
168588310,168623620,2018-04-18 13:51:15,">>168622032
>>168622447
I like to listen to this thinking that I don't regret anything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0xaYi33hmo
But really, I can't just forget it.
>>168622447
Wait, he really openly said he's inviting 200 million shitskins?
Oh shit.... link?
Also, do you really think it is the Jews, I mean, yes, they are at the top due to their history in banking and all that, but I don't think they literally want us dead.
I mean, they would know that it has no use to try to exterminate other races, right?
Much of /pol/ would probably call me cucked on ""da jooz"", but consider this:
And even if they did pull the strings from behind; if they had that much power resistance is futile.
And even if it is just the tribalism of a cultural and ethnic minority, why attack them directly?
The problem is not who holds the power, but
that the power is there in such a way at all, were it random Europeans that held the power, then
you guys probably wouldn't even care. And the funny thing is; if you take a step back, you realize that the Jewish character of power *is* in fact
due to its wielders, but in the end it is just a incidental alignment; it could be an ""Anglo Conspiracy"" juat the same, had the
history of religion, usury and money-lending played out differently.
It isn't some sort of ""effort"", sure, there is cooperation,
but that kind of cooperation that is, is not due to them being Jews, it is simply human nature. What would you do if you were in a position of power and had a few ""/Kameraden/"" in other positions and the ability to hire even more?
Well, I think you know what you'd do; what we are seeing is indeed a Jewish over-influence, but while its Jewish cahracter is (of course!)
Jewish in origin the way this ""Jewishness"" plays out in tribalism and nepotism is not.",,Anonymous,1348151192074.png,Q134n73JO48ScIr/uboqMg==,DE,,1524059475
168588310,168624252,2018-04-18 13:57:29,">>168623620
Help eliminate the power-sources and get your relatives informed.
Give them sources where they might notice the ""Jewishness"" themselves at MAX,
but it doesn't really matter to solving the problem beyond the necessity for a little
distrust toward them, and that will come once they challange enough of their
power structures; they will make themselves noticed.
I had it too, I was getting pissed too, but I read, I learned and I came to my own conclusions.
This claiming that: ""Worker! X is taking your resources and you must trust Y to end it with Z!""
is something that speaks to humans on a tribal and primal level. Which is why the commies
had all that success, they even promised a happy end to top it off. But you have to understand
that the Nazis did this too. I am m not saying there aren't any legitimate points they had, usury
is still cancer, but you have to think about these few above lines to understand the general
sentiment within the left,
#Leftist BS explained#:
it is why it is very plausible suddenly, to compare Trump with Hitler,
for example; both did *kinda* use that dialectic of ""X is stealing your Y!"",
albeit to a much, much, much differing degree and severity.
At any rate, the other, more life-critical information has to get out.
The message has to challenge the power strucutre:
""No European guilt""
""No obligation or even need to (((diversify)))""
""Having wthnic identity and interes =/= genocidal dictator""
""Race is real, there are immuteable differences""",,Anonymous,1348084766742.png,pZEISJTVUEU9NNkmiJ5Q8A==,DE,,1524059849
168588310,168625300,2018-04-18 14:07:50,">>168617984
This. Good work man.
>>168588310
Sounds good Op",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524060470
168588310,168625325,2018-04-18 14:08:05,">>168588310
Andy Warski is a little jew faggot and just did exactly what Baked Alaska did. Fuck them 
both.
He literally said: ""if you're here for ethnostate talk you're in the wrong place. Tell me more about your mom erin""
Fuck this guy. OP destroy Warski, we made him, we can destroy him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524060485
168588310,168626094,2018-04-18 14:15:22,">>168623620
Here’s a link to the article: https://www.infowars.com/macron-europe-faces-unprecedented-mass-migration-shares-destiny-with-africa/
And video talking about it: https://youtu.be/MkHzJu5lawk
And just when you thought jews couldn’t get any worse",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524060922
168588310,168626453,2018-04-18 14:18:48,">>168626094
A lot can happen in 30 years friend. A lot",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524061128
168588310,168626892,2018-04-18 14:23:01,">>168623620
Yes Hans, the Jews want you dead. That’s why they’re pushing the racemixing agenda so hard in Europe. To destroy white power bloc. Israel has formed a mutually beneficial relationship with Saudi Arabia to colonise the west in exchange for military support. Jews want western civilisation erased so they can rule the world from Solomon’s Temple in Jerusalem. It’s all part of the NWO. Tell your friends and family and move to Russia, Hungary, or Poland before it’s too late.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524061381
168588310,168627019,2018-04-18 14:24:19,">>168626094
What the fucking fuck!?
What the hell?
I mean, this is knee-jerk, but is this not just conspiracy?
I mean, do they really want this?
I can't actually believe anything beyond the South Africa thing.
....
>that entire video
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED
DEHUMANIZE YOURSELF AND FACE TO BLOODSHED",,Anonymous,1497918039521[1].png,OykhJfFVaSqOTQ5twzHRdw==,DE,,1524061459
168588310,168627137,2018-04-18 14:25:24,">>168626892
Wait, in that head/idea-space is it not better to go to China?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524061524
168588310,168627319,2018-04-18 14:27:16,The EU was founded by a man who advocated white genocide.,,Anonymous,Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi.jpg,r3vccFFlsha5CQ4SchDjpQ==,IE,,1524061636
168588310,168627723,2018-04-18 14:30:47,">>168627137
>Move to China where parents sell their children’s kidneys for $50 on the black market 
No thanks",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524061847
168588310,168628346,2018-04-18 14:36:17,">>168627723
oh-kay.
But seriously, what do we even do if that is true?
Like, what the fuck?
Resistance doesn't even make sense if they are as powerful as your meme-jones says.
It is deranged.#
How do I know that this is true?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524062177
168588310,168628863,2018-04-18 14:41:23,">>168628346
>what do we even do if that is true?
That's the point of this thread. Take is seriously now that you understand the gravity of the situation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524062483
168588310,168629504,2018-04-18 14:47:11,">>168628863
Fug.
Fugged hard.
I mean, I talked to a normie for weeks on end, and he probably hasn't even fully internalized the fact that the races are different.
At this rate it won't work.
I guess a massive effort in online information and knowledge dissemination is the only way.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524062831
168588310,168629721,2018-04-18 14:49:14,">>168629504
Here's a link I've seen floating around with a bunch of research on race and the damage that multiculturalism does.
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/diversity-proximity-war-the-reference-list/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524062954
168588310,168630260,2018-04-18 14:54:05,">>168629721
>https://heartiste.wordpress.com/diversity-proximity-war-the-reference-list/
Absolutely saved.
I think I will transfer the articles into a .txt file.
And add an archive link for each entry.
And the original one, of course.
What I need to know it this:
What kind of archive website is reliable and won't be (((censored)))?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524063245
168588310,168630611,2018-04-18 14:57:20,">>168588310
oh boy another alt right tier group of kosher huwhitey nationalist faggots
The west needs to die",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524063440
168588310,168630744,2018-04-18 14:58:38,">>168630611
If we were being Kosher, Magyanon, wed just join GI.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524063518
168588310,168630918,2018-04-18 15:00:07,">>168630260
I don't know. I would just keep an offline copy as a backup and upload it wherever you can. 
The problem is that simply showing people isn't always effective, I have plenty of experience. They need to be receptive, and vanguardism/passivism aims to actually go and physically help people prepare themselves, so they can then help the next wave, etc. I think at this point, it's time to start getting involved IRL, but we need to be discreet and decentralized.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524063607
168588310,168631232,2018-04-18 15:03:17,">>168630744
oh yeah those retards are truly a special vegetable bunch",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524063797
168588310,168631335,2018-04-18 15:04:17,">>168630918
Yeah.
I think I will try to meet with a German Anon from /pol/.
Perhaps one will even stumble here.
The question is, how should I get into contact with another person that is completely uninitiated?
I mean, I can't just walk there and say: ""Let me be with you for some time and change your politicial beliefs""",,Anonymous,Deutschland_Reclam_Cover_Parodie_Fragezeichenmädchen_Anime.jpg,/VtatUw2e1kiA/roJCi2Rg==,DE,,1524063857
168588310,168631416,2018-04-18 15:05:04,">>168630744
>>168631232
Do you want to see us fail or get anywhere?
What do you suggest?
Killl the West?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524063904
168588310,168631674,2018-04-18 15:07:28,>>168591256,,Anonymous,IMG_2205.jpg,B9x6x5TeOBvEJZpdSrknQA==,US,,1524064048
168588310,168631681,2018-04-18 15:07:32,">>168631232
True.
All we're trying to do is improve ourselves & set up local groups for community work.>>168588392 Nothing unrealistic, but stop the blackpilling, and break the sterotype against nationalism by turning us into a respectable group of men in our local community's eyes.
And if we ever need anything bigger, we're in a better position to build it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524064052
168588310,168631773,2018-04-18 15:08:23,>>168593187,,Anonymous,IMG_2200.jpg,4HLRCeaTP750I5jxHqV7NQ==,US,,1524064103
168588310,168631848,2018-04-18 15:09:01,">>168631416
you people wont even start as pan europeanism and white nationalism are huge memes 
and the west was being corrupted since christianity so it too is degenerated",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524064141
168588310,168631871,2018-04-18 15:09:16,Don't forget you can filter IDs.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524064156
168588310,168631969,2018-04-18 15:10:07,">>168631773
>>168631674
lmao nice",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524064207
168588310,168632095,2018-04-18 15:11:13,">>168631674
>>168631773
Oh fug, the subhuman has discovered this thread too.
>Being so autistic as to make those shitty caricatures and then spamming them at a place where they will change nothing",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524064273
168588310,168632227,2018-04-18 15:12:38,">>168632095
Responding isn't going to get us anything other then more responses.
It's a shit meme, and they couldn't even be bothered to make more than 5.
This is what the left thinks trolling is. Remember that, because that's why we win.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524064358
168588310,168632276,2018-04-18 15:13:08,">>168631335
All I can offer are suggestions:
Start with IRL friends you think would be a good fit.
Otherwise, go where like-minded people congregate. For instance, in online forums (but be careful). Another possibility I've thought of is to try White identitarian groups like Generation Identity since they're clearly already motivated, but aren't being effective enough with simple political activism. Vanguardism might find fertile ground in these groups. You could also try certain subcultures like skinheads and see if they are interested in starting a vanguard group to help themselves and make real change. 
That's all I've got right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524064388
168588310,168632298,2018-04-18 15:13:20,">>168632095
fashwave is so fucking cringy and a blatant rip off of the somewhat outdated synthwave tbqh with you",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524064400
168588310,168632477,2018-04-18 15:15:06,">>168631848
>you people wont even start as pan europeanism and white nationalism are huge memes
Okay then, what is not a meme, tell me honestly.
Scientificallly based genetic ""racism""?
Simple nationalism, like we had it in the 1900s?
Anuddah shoah?
What meats your quality standards to not be a huge meme?
Are we all memes because we don't even gas kikes?
>and the west was being corrupted since christianity so it too is degenerated
Ah, okay, so we just have to lay down and spread our buttcheeks, no use to it, right? .^)
 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Seriously, if you have that kind of attitude you might just as well not post, take a nict nylon thread, replace the flat
strap in a hookless ratchet tie and tighten it quickly above your adam's apple.
That is all there is to it.
You're done, no need to fight a war that is lost.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524064506
168588310,168632487,2018-04-18 15:15:14,">>168632298
I've seen that exact comment at least three times in the fake fashwave threads.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524064514
168588310,168632937,2018-04-18 15:19:08,">>168632276
Yep.
Actually, I would probably rather help a skinhead than a degenerated leftist.
That said, before anything I have to get my own shit together.
I think I will make a composite limit of talking here for a maximum of 30minutes (as in reading/writing) and spend the rest of the 1.75 hours doing something that will actually propel things forward.
>>168632298
>fashwave is so fucking cringy and a blatant rip off of the somewhat outdated synthwave tbqh with you
Who fucking cares if it is cringy?
And who cares if it is a rip-off.
I have seen this comment before, it's nothing but a cheap attempt at demoralization.
Off to the filter-chamber you go.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524064748
168588310,168633410,2018-04-18 15:23:58,">>168632477
Nationalism like in the 19th and early 20th century>>>>>>>>> shit>>>>>> """"""""nationalism"""""" and muh huwhitey murimutt nationalism of today
>what do you suggest lay low?
Tell me do you expect to fight the retarded vegetable masses of your own people all the non germans in your country and your own army and win with what you and yourself alone? Oh please this game was literally rigged against us the jews have already literally inflitrated everything and rule and ruin this world(which died completley in 1945)",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524065038
168588310,168633493,2018-04-18 15:24:47,">>168631848
See >>168605849
 >>168605902
This is not alt-right, and we don't want a pan-European result. Read the opening post, or read this: https://www.socialmatter.net/2016/04/19/how-to-passivism/
The point is to create organic, localized change by getting people to collectivize into their own separate groups to help each other become stronger people so they can effect real change. There won't even be formal connections or even necessarily formal contact between separate groups, and we certainly aren't a part of any centralized, formal movement. We are connected mostly by the idea that we want to take an active role instead of a passive one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524065087
168588310,168633530,2018-04-18 15:25:10,">>168632937
Go on then filter me and prove to us how much of a murimutt tier human you are when it comes to debate or anything",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524065110
168588310,168633645,2018-04-18 15:26:10,">>168588961
Damn, I think I'll try that soon. 
But getting rid of everything pleasant in my room seems like the biggest obstacle here.
Also how do I avoid talking to nice people at work?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1524065170
168588310,168634005,2018-04-18 15:29:47,">>168633410
>Nationalism like in the 19th and early 20th century>>>>>>>>> shit>>>>>> """"""""nationalism"""""" and muh huwhitey murimutt nationalism of today
About this you are right.
The term """"""white"""""" alone pisses me off already.
It really doesn't help that it is such a loose and (((inclusive))) constraint.
>>what do you suggest lay low?
>Tell me do you expect to fight the retarded vegetable masses of your own people all the non germans in your country and your own army and win with what you and yourself alone? Oh please this game was literally rigged against us the jews have already literally inflitrated everything and rule and ruin this world(which died completley in 1945)
Well... if the Jews indeed have all power, then the only sensible option is to lay low.
But then again, what is there to do, will there ever be anything else again apart from ""laying low""?
Also, while Jews have a lot of influence political financial and (((social))), it is simply not true that it's a homogenous power.
I think it is much rather different groups trying to up-keep mutually beneficial conditions.
Then again, what is to be done?
Wait for civilization to collapse and become a b1tter t3rr0r!st?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524065387
168588310,168634010,2018-04-18 15:29:50,">>168633645
I think the idea is to take a week off.
>>168633530
What's to debate? You haven't said anything you couldn't find on a lefty/pol/ script. ""Nationalism is a meme."" ""That meme is cringy and a ripoff tbqh"".
You're glowing.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524065390
168588310,168634394,2018-04-18 15:33:51,">>168607443
This is a traduction of some DP article right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524065631
168588310,168634491,2018-04-18 15:35:00,">>168634005
>white term pisses me off its too broad
me too when i think of hungarians i really dont want us to be put into the same racial category as the french or ""americans"" or slavs
>become a bitter terrorist
nah ill just try my best to live a non degenerate life and thats it i really cant do much except maybe larp as a nomad",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524065700
168588310,168634591,2018-04-18 15:35:51,">>168634010
>l-leftypol
oh no what will you call me next a sharwblue",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524065751
168588310,168634913,2018-04-18 15:38:50,">>168588310
Fascists/Natsoc will never be seen as respectable by the general population in the Anglosphere.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524065930
168588310,168635881,2018-04-18 15:47:23,">>168632298
>>168632487
>>168632937
Yep I've seen this comment aswell. Actually always when there is a fashwave thread you have 2-3 people doing their best to ruin it. 
Because I can sense (((they))) are shitless scared of it, I'm gonna start to pump out some fresh and never seen FashWave OC soon. It's working.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1524066443
168588310,168636082,2018-04-18 15:49:08,">>168634010
> I think the idea is to take a week off.
I see.
My question is what exactly do I do after the week is over?
He says that I can re-introduce all positive stuff back into my life again.
But soon later, he says that I may only introduce stuff I want to keep in my life. 
That is a big difference.
So what exactly do I do on day 1 after the 7 days of reading books, lifting and eating healthy?",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1524066548
168588310,168636400,2018-04-18 15:51:47,">>168596710
What is the status off Integralism un todays Brazil?",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1524066707
168588310,168636455,2018-04-18 15:52:15,">>168633530
Well, anon, what *are* you debating.
The only point that I conclude from what you say is:
""Give up because Richard Spnecer's AutRight is a joke and I don't like the meme-pictures because I think they are un-cool""
Tell me what I am thinking wrongly, and tell me what you think the right conlusion to that part of reality is, please.
I really do want to understand, as you seem kinda genuine.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524066735
168588310,168636972,2018-04-18 15:57:09,">>168635881
>people are scared of fashwave
how delusional are you?
>>168636455
well yeah fashwave is quite autistic
>give up cuz dicky is a joke
a kosher gay joke*
And you dont get it do you?",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1524067029
168588310,168637070,2018-04-18 15:58:05,">>168588310
>start meeting IRL
Ha ha . Nice try CIA .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524067085
168588310,168637140,2018-04-18 15:58:37,">>168636082
>Redditspacing
Are you just doing this so anons will read and reply to your post?
Or are you trolling perhaps, just to piss of those who would care about that?
>>168634491
>me too when i think of hungarians i really dont want us to be put into the same racial category as the french or ""americans"" or slavs
Yes, but yet I think there is some veracity to the idea that we have to find some kind of common ground in terms of tolerating each other,
and currently especially helping each other.
> try my best to live a non degenerate life
>try
No, you *will*
If you know what I mean :^)
You know what is funny, I had a bet that, if that one polling result for (((AfD))) that another anon posted
over in Kraut/pol/ is true I would do a thousand pushups on a single day.
I fucked up, should have held my tongue.
I think it is the right step towards non-degeneracy, after all excercise gets the balance of neurotransmitters back in order.
Good night, anon.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524067117
168588310,168637180,2018-04-18 15:58:59,">>168588392
>>Start going to the gym together 
>>Start cooking together
>>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
Sounds kinda gay TBQH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524067139
168588310,168639996,2018-04-18 16:25:20,bump for a non-shit thread with potential,,Anonymous,,,US,,1524068720
168588310,168642410,2018-04-18 16:49:06,">>168636082
Pretty much.
One of the first things these groups will be doing is testing out the ides ad seeing what does and doesn't work, at any rate.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524070146
168588310,168642691,2018-04-18 16:51:35,">>168639996
Thanks for the support anon
>>168637070
>>168637180
So every less-than-2-post ID has been saying.
>>168634591
I didn't say you were lefty/pol/, I said you sounded like you were reading from their script. That you were lefty/pol/-*tier*. If you're not, that just makes it sadder anon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524070295
168705688,168705688,2018-04-19 04:52:57,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
>Pastebin (Save & read, more info on here)
https://pastebin.com/raw/GP9jmnFx
>What is Vanguardism?
There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,Vanguard.png,RluEZz2pMhwxuJCVWiTQLg==,GB,,1524113577
168705688,168705713,2018-04-19 04:53:26,">What’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
>1ST PHASE-
.Start going to the gym together 
.Start cooking together
.Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
.Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
.Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
.Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
>2ND PHASE-
.Start volunteering
.Start attending community events
.Start getting involved in local politics and campaigns
Become known, dependable faces in your local community
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates).
Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1524113606
168705688,168705729,2018-04-19 04:53:43,"QUESTIONS & COMPLAINTS
>How do we go about meeting people?
There’s an entire board dedicated to just that. >>>/soc/
We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people. I’d also recommend getting a protonmail account and a gab.ai account, for arranging the meetupsin more detail then a general area.
>I’m a Civic Nationalist, can I join?
No. Civicuckery is doublethink trying to marry what is factual with what is socially acceptable. This is a Nationalist Vanguard, not a Liberalist meetup.
>Do we have a more permanent online base?
We’re getting one, but 4chan doesn’t allow links. One we’ve got enough attention on these threads, I’ll set up a /soc/ colony asking for burner emails and send you the link from there.
>”Start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down.
Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society.
If they wanted to start passing legislation or making arrests, they would have to admit, publicly, that the ONLY reason they are against it is because we are right-wing. And if you’ve been paying attention over the last few years, revealing their hand hasn’t done them any good.
>”Google vanguardism- first result Leninism”
If you google Socialism, you get Marxist theory. Does that make National Socialists Marxists?
>”Isn’t that a fascist symbol? The media could attack us for that, you should change it”
1. This is the symbol of the thread, not the movement, because
2. If you’d been paying attention you’d already know there is no single figure, organisation or symbol for the entire movement, specifically so that the media *can’t* attack us, and
3. If you consider a small display of nationalism like that to be a danger to the movement, then the movement isn’t for you.",,Anonymous,Godwinson.gif,16mrkCbNtZwIx0JPYf3Mpg==,GB,,1524113623
168705688,168705748,2018-04-19 04:54:09,,,Anonymous,meditation.jpg,MylTMeggqmssYfXVdXxC2w==,GB,,1524113649
168705688,168705758,2018-04-19 04:54:20,,,Anonymous,No Fap.png,QIFuT07cmEKKz2QFRxjj7g==,GB,,1524113660
168705688,168705770,2018-04-19 04:54:35,,,Anonymous,1522712720913.png,0iBwM8WHA8D56Mr7C8+uEw==,GB,,1524113675
168705688,168705780,2018-04-19 04:54:49,,,Anonymous,1470531036036.png,HbCu3Q5HyrnXgI1O4hSEPw==,GB,,1524113689
168705688,168706851,2018-04-19 05:16:02,,,Anonymous,1518497051704.jpg,fQrG+cEXY3VFZFA2nqvS2A==,GB,,1524114962
168705688,168706865,2018-04-19 05:16:20,,,Anonymous,1518497112683.jpg,G24cI63fqby/pw4kCEMNCQ==,GB,,1524114980
168705688,168707207,2018-04-19 05:22:31,">>168706851
>>168706865
There should definitely be an library of /pol/ for the online base.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524115351
168705688,168707306,2018-04-19 05:24:16,">>168707207
I've saved a whole folder full of reading lists, and i'm working on getting all the PDFs, but even the 8 library doesn't have them all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524115456
168705688,168707537,2018-04-19 05:28:26,">>168707306
My man. 
I'll post some thing i know of. I have access to a university l library so can get useful stuff if needed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524115706
168705688,168707691,2018-04-19 05:31:46,">>168707537
I'll be storing the PDFs on the hub, and the list of the ones we'll still need.
In the meantime, save everything you think could be useful, and i'll keep you posted on books we might need.
Does the Library have any books on genetics & evolutionary psychology, by any chance?",,Anonymous,Respect.png,tdf3KozIskZgKkzDgeFOEg==,GB,,1524115906
168705688,168708061,2018-04-19 05:38:41,"good onya lads
the most important thing is to ORGANISE
focus your efforts locally - don't get caught up in international bullshit",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524116321
168705688,168708152,2018-04-19 05:39:53,">>168707691
>genetics & evolutionary psychology
Checking now.
Get a PDF called 'The Sun & the Lightning' it's a very interesting work.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524116393
168705688,168708165,2018-04-19 05:40:04,">>168707207
these are all well and good, but ultimately not of practical use
more relevant books are ones about activism:
>This Is an Uprising by Mark Engler
>Doing Democracy by Bill Moyer
>>From Dictatorship to democracy by Gene Sharp 
Power and Struggle by Gene Sharp 
>How to win campaigns by Chris Rose
>Blueprint for Revolution by Srdja Popovics",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524116404
168705688,168708281,2018-04-19 05:41:46,">>168708165
this playlist is absolutely essential viewing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OFW0eRHEmg&index=2&list=PLVdcITXRZK5zn2UB3BF-Css2wATvIZ76j",,Anonymous,unknown (53).png,6CCRay2XeMYeihpXko2riA==,AU,,1524116506
168705688,168708301,2018-04-19 05:42:05,">>168708165
I'll keep an eye out for those PDFs, thanks Ausbro.
I've got quite a collection on historical grassroots movements at the moment, as well as a few on propaganda by Bernays.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524116525
168705688,168708330,2018-04-19 05:42:41,">>168708165
>>168708281
>>168708301
Google books is also a great resource",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524116561
168705688,168708930,2018-04-19 05:53:45,"Wow this shit is gay, basically it's a homosexual meetup to... cook together and lift together? I get it, don't be a basement dwelling faggot, but this sounds like an arts and crafts circle-jerk imitating some kind of nascent nazism.
In other words, this is absolutely gay",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524117225
168705688,168709042,2018-04-19 05:55:34,">>168708930
>ID- Suc Gux",,Anonymous,1522680263910.gif,BGn6WMptin0FHRbpXW2iug==,GB,,1524117334
168705688,168709618,2018-04-19 06:05:09,">>168705688
Vanguard bro checking in.
Still a sceptic about pending economic collapse, but still happy to meet other bros and become part of public life. 
Anyone want to help clean up a park, chat shit and drink shit coffee?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524117909
168705688,168710029,2018-04-19 06:13:21,">>168709618
Thanks for sticking with us, mate.
We're a little small at the moment, but we should be starting the first /soc/ colonies around next week. Failing that, we'll have our own 8 board by then anyway.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524118401
168705688,168710283,2018-04-19 06:18:43,">>168710029
>8board
urgh, fine. I guess at least it'll gauge numbers.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524118723
168705688,168710394,2018-04-19 06:20:24,">>168710283
Yeah, it's not a perfect solution. But discord's a honeypot, everything else isn't as good, and at the end of the day, we only need it for a hub.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524118824
168705688,168710629,2018-04-19 06:24:27,">>168710283
Once a core group has been established then it may be of use to bring normies in",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524119067
168705688,168711750,2018-04-19 06:44:52,Bumping,,Anonymous,3aa66facd000112d53ea2ca4eedb2ce871f9d59f0a9003d0bd86e48fa7c14f25.jpg,J8Yrvz8lz6LoE4dlQ4VvAw==,GB,,1524120292
168705688,168711761,2018-04-19 06:45:04,,,Anonymous,6d908f2f5b6a8380d9df7ac51334a13d4aab9ef74657ccc7c10bbd60840ff405.png,tZq5G4/N6cruOLNBFJgGHg==,GB,,1524120304
168705688,168711770,2018-04-19 06:45:15,,,Anonymous,7bdb3fdf970137c43a01feb442b71df8acc366f9d1f71abfea822b0bccd9c242.png,xeaQkWs1wqkWPfjDc71OwA==,GB,,1524120315
168705688,168711781,2018-04-19 06:45:26,,,Anonymous,7e083d25c5147905c12493dacb6d4bad2f7f18e25ab048066cdba63b332d5708.png,UXiu8PlVF7cfxMdjX5HiDA==,GB,,1524120326
168705688,168711794,2018-04-19 06:45:37,,,Anonymous,8bc0f4c3c623331942259885eafdd514dd9d9411968164e54fb018dc790e50df.png,T8X2tefeoG7dIei/LmYISw==,GB,,1524120337
168705688,168712332,2018-04-19 06:55:39,,,Anonymous,1515096010976.jpg,4byjv2Y6s/zYk1+g1ptRCw==,GB,,1524120939
168705688,168712968,2018-04-19 07:06:39,">>168705688
>We need to start becoming respected in our communities
How? The only way is to become part of the status quo, everything else gets torn down by them.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1524121599
168705688,168713034,2018-04-19 07:07:57,">>168712968
I've already outlined how, it's the second post.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524121677
168705688,168713317,2018-04-19 07:12:44,">>168713034
Another thing - scale down your screenshots to fit common monitors so they can be read without consant sideways scrolling. 
I am not going to bother reading all of that when I have to jump back and forth with every line.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1524121964
168705688,168713434,2018-04-19 07:14:40,">>168713317
I use a common monitor, and they're fine on mine.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524122080
168705688,168713880,2018-04-19 07:22:15,">>168705688
>bump
Keep posting it lad, great stuff.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1524122535
168705688,168714108,2018-04-19 07:26:13,I've learnt a lot from you guys. I know you don't take in brown skinned folks in your community but I fully support them. All the best to you.,,Anonymous,,,IN,,1524122773
168705688,168714291,2018-04-19 07:29:44,">>168713880
Thanks anon. We'll be setting up the hub sometime next week, i've got a buildup of material ready to post over there.
>>168714108
And you too, mate. You wouldn't know it if you took shitposts on this board as gospel, but there's a lot of beaty in India that needs preserving & protecting.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524122984
168705688,168714323,2018-04-19 07:30:12,">>168714108
I have been into self development books for years. I can recommend you the best of the best, creme de la creme, absolute diamonds of positive thinking and productivity. Here's the list if you're interested:
1) Relentless - Good to great to unstoppable
2) Power of Habit 
3) Succes through PMA (old gem. Written by an awesome white man)
4) The compound effect
If you follow these you won't need another self development book in your life. I guarantee it.",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1524123012
168705688,168714552,2018-04-19 07:33:42,">>168714323
Relentless will give you the fire. 
Success through a Positive mental attitude (PMA) will help develop a positive mindset that can't be broken even in the face of hopelessness
Power of habit teaches the science of habits 
The compound effect teaches patience (it's extremely important to be patient with any process)",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1524123222
168705688,168715015,2018-04-19 07:41:12,">>168714552
I'll see if i can find the PDFs, thanks anon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524123672
168705688,168715205,2018-04-19 07:44:24,">>168715015
You're welcome. Please do look into it. I lost 18 kgs weight, topped a semester at college (STEM), and became quite proficient at playing guitar due to these. I've even started writing down important paragraphs and memorizing them.",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1524123864
168705688,168715549,2018-04-19 07:50:49,"Stand up, za,",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524124249
168705688,168716120,2018-04-19 07:59:38,Thank you anons for a good thread. Might have saved a life here.,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1524124778
168705688,168716337,2018-04-19 08:03:11,">>168716120
No problem mate. Stick around, we post the thread every day, once we have enough people we'll be setting up /soc/ colonies for the meetups.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524124991
168705688,168716610,2018-04-19 08:07:46,">>168705688
>digits
Also; I have an idea, I know that you had something on 8ch@n about it,
but I want to at least ask anons on here once:
https://pastebin.com/raw/9r1x52yd
What about kicking the jews in the head for their blatant kikery?
And to avenge Count Dankula a little?
All reasoning is in the pastebin link.",,Anonymous,1387658560664.png,ei74q+lJs59tMEq6QaMD9A==,DE,,1524125266
168705688,168716731,2018-04-19 08:09:57,">>168707691
I think this might be of interest to you:
https://pastebin.com/raw/GP9jmnFx",,Anonymous,loisenceball.gif,p7Us/awjuf9x4EJYPwiZ2g==,DE,,1524125397
168705688,168717395,2018-04-19 08:20:47,">>168716731
Thanks, mate, but it's aready in the OP.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524126047
168705688,168717781,2018-04-19 08:26:53,">>168717395
Ah, sorry, didn't check.
I think I'll type out some of the better infographic texts to have higher-quality versions of them,
and making them useable as copypastas as well.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524126413
168705688,168717806,2018-04-19 08:27:21,Self bump,,Anonymous,9c30952e90c9c583bd76e38863019c107a5cefb1849a01d3a440669896cc6234.png,PInYwwKQ3i7xpvsKI2PPZw==,GB,,1524126441
168705688,168717819,2018-04-19 08:27:33,,,Anonymous,65f099c0f55d8da6f1cf44591a4b2873c493938cd856fddc610e9a3102f33662.png,lah5pCYco23BlUQw2TBQJA==,GB,,1524126453
168705688,168717829,2018-04-19 08:27:47,">>168717781
no problem",,Anonymous,83d9babcc6a3a462df320c82094b67623a8b64c77511e6060291b5ab947091d9.png,favG3dR8syaoptkttbTSWQ==,GB,,1524126467
168705688,168718232,2018-04-19 08:33:30,">>168717829
>>168717819
>>168717806
Bump and also I agree with 
>>168708061
in that we should avoid this international confederation/conspiracy shit and focus on getting local groups functioning. Nationalism starts with the community, then the nation, speculating about zog won't help build a footing in your community",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524126810
168705688,168718440,2018-04-19 08:36:37,">>168718232
It's a grassroots project, the groups aren't even going to be in contact with other groups in their areas except through the online hub.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524126997
168705688,168718812,2018-04-19 08:42:18,">>168705688
Thread epic theme:
https://youtu.be/LDS8SeO6hyg",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1524127338
168705688,168718912,2018-04-19 08:43:53,">>168718440
Maybe we should look into the practice of Compartmentalisation",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524127433
168705688,168719612,2018-04-19 08:54:54,"Hey, I have a question:
Should I make the ""Beaver posts"" into a copy-pasta?
I am pretty proficient at typing, so it wouldn't be that hard for me.
Plus it is a new skill I learned, so it is actually quite fun to be able to just type aling with what I see at a
now-bearable rate. I just want to know whether or not this makes sense.
Also, even if I make a higher qualiy version of the image;
there is still one problem that I haven't figuered out:
Why the heck does 4chan upload images I have verifiiedly saved as .png as .jpg instead?
What is this Jewry?!
Testing with pic related.
Sadly, it already has .jpg artifacts, and that is just bad presentation if it happens on our material.",,Anonymous,Anime beloongs to 4chan normies btfo mods are gods animeposting is alright.jpg,Xecn584exrf9KBaSsJ7eFw==,DE,,1524128094
168705688,168719854,2018-04-19 08:58:43,">>168719612
It's already a PDF, you can find it on /pdfs/ over on 8. But I don't see why not, it's better for spreading on sites where images & links aren't allowed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524128323
168705688,168719975,2018-04-19 09:00:39,">>168705688
>We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people
How can we tell how many people we already have?
Do you have a discord or similar method of communication / coordination?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524128439
168705688,168720118,2018-04-19 09:02:37,">>168719612
Nah, don't bother. They're good for keeping a thread bumped.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524128557
168705688,168720177,2018-04-19 09:03:33,">>168719975
Not really. I'm basing it off of post count & unique IDs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524128613
168705688,168720404,2018-04-19 09:07:04,">>168719854
>>168720118
Aaaa.
Wat do?
I mean, I could simply put it into a ""good copy-pastas"" .txt within the Vanguardism archive I am building.
But I want the general archive to serve for more.
Should I just call the top folder ""/pol/itical action""?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524128824
168705688,168720467,2018-04-19 09:08:00,">>168720404
Sounds like a plan.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524128880
168705688,168720483,2018-04-19 09:08:17,">>168720177
I don't want to be rude (we're on the same side), but that's retarded.
You might as well start having /soc/ threads (the board is slower than /pol/). Otherwise this is gonna go nowhere.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524128897
168705688,168720521,2018-04-19 09:08:49,">>168720177
Is it a good idea to namefag?
Just for that purpose?
Like, just a serial number.
You are ""1""
>>168720118 is ""2""
>>168719975 is ""3""
And I am ""4""
and so on.
And all we do is keep the number that has been assigned to us, and a list of what kind of stuff the anon generally posts so as to have a loosely persisten identiy/verificaation?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524128929
168705688,168720788,2018-04-19 09:12:44,">>168720521
So, basically, it could look like this:
#1 = British flag Originator ov Vanguardism generals
#2 = Irish flag; likes to bump thread
#3 = British flag; Likes to ask question
#4 = German flag; Animu faggot; Is writing the Vanguardism archive
...
And so on.
The profile can be as long or as short as one wants, anons just have to be reminded to note down their number.
That way we could also have a very rough estimate of activity.
They say half of the people do 80% of the work.
With that we'd know whom we can encourage to do more and whom we can ask if he can be helped.",,Anonymous,Cats_Nationalities_Stereotypes_Japan_Joke_Anime_Catgirl.jpg,rJL/zMp4vvioPUu4/o7IDw==,DE,,1524129164
168705688,168720914,2018-04-19 09:14:16,">>168720483
/soc/ would only delete the threads, untill we get enough people willing to meet up they're just political.
And i've been doing my best to speed up the process. Putting links in aus/pol/, brit/pol/, kraut/pol/, and /pol/der & eire/pol/ whenever they're on the board.
>>168720521
>>168720788
That wouldn't be much use without a tripcode. Besides, you can see how many unique ID's there are in the threads by looking in to right hand corner. At least you can if you're using 4chan X.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524129256
168705688,168721342,2018-04-19 09:19:32,">>168720914
Yes, but that isn't persisten enough to really aid organisation and swarming.
I mean, if everyone had a tripcode, then it could help to know how many anons there are, so that they can be rationed and organized.
We could even organize ourselves through anonymous, fast-expiring paste-bins for smaller skirmishes on social media.
It's not like the trip has to be used constantly, but when there is something to do,
we need a way that we can have a role and an identity beyond threads.
Take it as a kind of uniform I guess.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524129572
168705688,168721375,2018-04-19 09:19:57,">>168720914
I think a Discord would be much more suited for this.
Coordination is much easier and it's useful for even a small amount of people. It's also an easier indicator of activity than unique IDs (which is a really bad indicator).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524129597
168705688,168721764,2018-04-19 09:25:27,">>168705688
It’s a good idea, but each chapter should be registered somehow, and should design their own symbol. It’s a good way to hold each other accountable and develop comradery. Vorwarts men!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524129927
168705688,168721859,2018-04-19 09:27:07,">>168721375
yes, but Discord is also a datamining project. And we get enough accusations of being a honeypot just trying to convince anons to go outside.
besides, too many promising projects end up meeting on discord only to be sht down or whittled away thanks to infighting thanks to the conversation being constant.
>>168721342
I see what where you're coming from, but that would be more useful on the hub then over here.
>>168721764
Separate symbols are already part of the plan, registers aren't. Both for the same reason- there shouldn't be anything that can trace all of the groups together as part of the same organisation, because it's not supposed to be one organisation.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524130027
168705688,168722185,2018-04-19 09:31:39,">>168721859
What is the hub?
Is it one 8ch?
The thing though is, here there are many anons.
And if they notice that they are talking to the same anons again and again, maybe then they will try to progress?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524130299
168705688,168722195,2018-04-19 09:31:45,">>168721859
Should a discord be started? I’d be happy to volunteer to start.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524130305
168705688,168722431,2018-04-19 09:35:10,">>168722195
That's not a great idea, the top reply in my lst post should explain why.
>>168722185
The 8 board, yeah, i'll have it up & running in about a week.
and they might, but at the same time, they might not. I'm not sure noticing that over half of the comments are by the same four of five people is going to have that much of a moralisation effect.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524130510
168705688,168722648,2018-04-19 09:37:58,">>168721859
Forget about Discord then, but your current plan will lead to nowhere. Organizing something local is the core aspect of this project and you'll never gather enough people if they don't get anything but an ""eventually"" out of it.
Either start doing /soc/ threads now, organize something within the /pol/ generals or come up with something else to get the ball rolling.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524130678
168705688,168722774,2018-04-19 09:39:31,">>168722431
>The 8 board, yeah, i'll have it up & running in about a week.
>and they might, but at the same time, they might not. I'm not sure noticing that over half of the comments are by the same four of five people is going to have that much of a moralisation effect.
>same four or five people posting
Yeah, I guess you are right.
But remember, it is like starting to roll a boulder.
It doesn't even budge at first.
Then it moves a fraction of a degree, and then maybe it may start to move.
It might stop moving again, and the force wasn't big enough,
one must conclude, but if we keep on pushing,
others will see this and join in eventually.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524130771
168705688,168723047,2018-04-19 09:42:59,">>168722648
That's how this started out. I got plenty of criticism, which shaped the general; and plenty of support, but nothing conrete. Like I say, i'm still posting the links to the thread in the generals, and i try to engage people when possible to drum up interest. But how else would we keep constant interest, other than with our own general?
>>168722774
Point taken. We'll try it for now, then.",,1,,,GB,,1524130979
168705688,168723148,2018-04-19 09:44:11,">>168722648
I think that we need a trust building excercise.
It could look like this:
>take a photo of your face
>resize it to 444px on the longest side
>put it into a image--->ASCII art converter
>make a pastebin of that
>post it on /soc/
That way the other anons know, that we aren't just that light-red
box with that annoying burgund red text, but actualy people.
I think this kind of mentality is actually something that makes anons interact less directly and sincerely.
So it might help, plus, besides having a basic gestalt, there is literally no way to get
anything about the identity of the person through that.
If we want to change such a large system, then we have to be brave, and such a trust-excercise (not really trust, there isn't really a ""risk) could help.
Okay, #4 reporting in",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524131051
168705688,168723329,2018-04-19 09:46:28,">>168723148
OK, no. I'm drawing the line there.
We stay as anonymous as possible outside our own groups. The trst comes from the meeting-up itself.",,1,,,GB,,1524131188
168705688,168723475,2018-04-19 09:48:34,">>168723047
>>168723148
Kek, I messed up and put it in the options.
I have now started a list for this experiment.
Should I put it in the general Vanguardism archive?
Also, I'm naming myself ""2"", since there isn't a higher number than ""1"" yet.
>>168723329
Good, understood.
I guess this is better in the long run anyways, else it could undermine the idea of having all these splinter groups.
Should have considered that right away, I hope you aren't suspicious of me now or anything.",,2,,,DE,,1524131314
168705688,168723837,2018-04-19 09:53:44,">>168723475
No, I can see the logic in the idea. Just the cons outweight the pros, and that's too much trust to ask of people.",,1,,,GB,,1524131624
168705688,168724436,2018-04-19 10:02:10,">>168723329
How about putting the general area we live in (not exact location) in the name field?",,Surrey,,,GB,,1524132130
168705688,168724464,2018-04-19 10:02:30,">>168723837
Yeah, I figured that.
Though, desu, I never tried it out, I'm just gonna test it with a picture
of a random person now.
I'll post results.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524132150
168705688,168724605,2018-04-19 10:04:35,">>168724436
That could work. Although we'd have to remember to clear the name field when posting in other threads.",,1,,,GB,,1524132275
168705688,168724616,2018-04-19 10:04:47,">>168724464
Sounds good",,1,,,GB,,1524132287
168705688,168725149,2018-04-19 10:11:53,">>168720788
Am I number 3?
mr questions?",,3,,,GB,,1524132713
168705688,168725639,2018-04-19 10:18:17,">>168725149
Yep, I guess; what do you generally post in these threads, so that there is some sort of way to recognize if it's you....
ah whatever, that's too much to ask.
Just make sure to not forget using the number in these threads like I have.",,2,,,DE,,1524133097
168705688,168725904,2018-04-19 10:21:52,">>168725639
Talk smack about about people leaning into the ""economy is collapsing"" idea. Ask who wants to hit the gym and talk about helping the local community. 
I've been helping out with local parks and stuff and have met a few decent people through that if people want to join.",,3,,,GB,,1524133312
168705688,168726337,2018-04-19 10:26:43,">>168725149
I was the question guy. You are number 5.
>>168724616
>>168725904
What area are you guys from?
>Surrey reporting in",,3 - Surrey,,,GB,,1524133603
168705688,168726338,2018-04-19 10:26:44,">>168725904
It's not *collapsing*, but fact is the way it's structured right now it's destined for one, especially in this country.",,1,,,GB,,1524133604
168705688,168726506,2018-04-19 10:28:34,">>168726337
One of the epicentres.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524133714
168705688,168726713,2018-04-19 10:31:11,">>168725904
Yep, I really have to put myself out there.
I might have to read a book or two on persuasion that I found here.
Also; pastebin seems to have a lot of vertical distortion.
So it might help to cut the height in half whille keeping the width the same.
Will try that next.
https://pastebin.com/raw/pK3wWnkd",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524133871
168705688,168726951,2018-04-19 10:33:51,">>168726337
number 5 reporting in then.
Colliers Wood, London/Surrey border for me, miss the homeland though (Dorset)
>>168726713
Don't even think about it politically at first, look at your local area and ask what you can do. There are old people that need looking after, local community centres, music venues, parks that need care. If you meet good people just hang with them.",,5,,,GB,,1524134031
168705688,168727038,2018-04-19 10:34:51,">>168726337
>>168726506
Hm, looks like one would have to take a certain amount less than half the image height ofr it to look undistorted on pastebin/txt editor:
https://pastebin.com/raw/xNnwDfi5
There is a detail loss, though",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524134091
168705688,168727172,2018-04-19 10:36:15,"Oh, btw, that pastebin was in reality an image of my real face, couldn't resist, kek.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524134175
168705688,168727208,2018-04-19 10:36:39,">>168725904
I think people are pointing their fingers at the bank system. Right now loan interests are creating debt faster than economy is growing and creating money so everyone can't get their money back if people start demanding it back for a reason or another.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1524134199
168705688,168727510,2018-04-19 10:40:07,">>168727172
Looks decent, bt it really could be a picture of anyone. Not much of a test of faith if you could just pick a similar-shaped head off of google image and nobody would be able to tell.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524134407
168705688,168727766,2018-04-19 10:42:51,">>168727510
Probably, it'd have to have a higher resolution.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524134571
168705688,168728189,2018-04-19 10:47:23,">>168726337
Liverpool, I miss living in my home town outside the city so much. City life is destroying my mind.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524134843
168705688,168728268,2018-04-19 10:48:11,">>168727510
Funny thing is, we had a Themenwoche, and today was the
day you would take on a ""buisness"" look.
Welp, I seized the moment and went for a combed hairstyle that differs only from hitlers meme-cut in the sense that the hairs are combed more rear-wards.
Was funny, as no one noticed, since this kind of short hair cut is popular.
https://pastebin.com/raw/0jRjQMaC",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524134891
168705688,168728693,2018-04-19 10:53:10,">>168728268
Looks decent.
Still not sure about it as a first resort, but it's something we can use if we ever need it.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524135190
168705688,168729098,2018-04-19 10:57:26,">>168728693
I found a website that converts with higher res.
My image was ~444*333, so if you zoom out on the pastebin it owrks.
Just not with the distorted one this time, weirdly enough.
Wait, I'll try the undistorted one.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524135446
168705688,168729341,2018-04-19 10:59:50,">>168727208
No one seems to agree with me and that's cool, but if you wait to a for an economic meltdown to make a societal change, you are not setting you're own schedule. 
It also irks me how inaccurate the ""crash"" copypasta that starts the thread is
>>168705713 
1970s britain wasn't characterised by debt, debt had fallen since the 60's, it was characterised by unemployment and industrial action as manufacturing collapsed. Even 20% unemployment didn't radically change the social order either, only government policy re: unions and privatisation. De-industrialisation can't happen again because we have virtually no industry. Automation in transport may cause a problem but it wont hit Britain harder than anyone else. 
Our national debt is not 900% GDP as stated it is about 85%, below canada, france, belgium, or the USA. Debt simply isn't an indicator of economic health. The UK still has a AAA/AA credit rating by most standards and it seems incredibly unlikely to fall. Britain's cost of borrowing is actually pretty low, around 3% GDP.
My point is a lot of people are under the impression that a lot of economies are teetering on the edge, stoked by a lot of media and internet unimformed alarmism and if you're plan for changing society hinges on rising from the ashes of some crisis, you could bye waiting decades or longer. Why not set a schedule like:
2 years, gather support, form local figures
3 years, start a party, run some people for local government
4 years, run at a national level.
It sounds fast but En Marche did the same in half that time and they didn't need a societal collapse to do it.",,5-Sceptic(SW Londonistan),,,GB,,1524135590
168705688,168729444,2018-04-19 11:01:03,">>168728693
>>168729098
Hm, only looks good on the website, on the pastebin this specific site called lunatic.io (I think) doesen't look good in pastebin.
But hey, one can always post an image.
Btw, that image is pretty off with the details, I usually don't look that creepy.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),ascii face.png,M5/CAoV27Uxqts+5BV8pig==,DE,,1524135663
168705688,168729531,2018-04-19 11:01:56,">>168729444
OK, we're getting a little *too* accurate now.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524135716
168705688,168729595,2018-04-19 11:02:28,">>168728693
Just foundo ut another interesting thing:
resize the creenshot in paint and you can ""smush"" the image.
Pic related.
Man, there are probably so many things to do with this.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),ascii face.png,wtOb9udNGyG1alCutGDvRw==,DE,,1524135748
168705688,168729666,2018-04-19 11:03:21,">>168729444
>>168729595
Weird, looks like a smile.
And really nothing like the photo.
Is it an optical illusion?
Either way, I will DELET if it makes you feel uncomfortable.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524135801
168705688,168730048,2018-04-19 11:07:51,">>168729666
Tada
>wew, DDD tr!ps and Satan tr!ps within three posts.
This is rare.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524136071
168705688,168730236,2018-04-19 11:10:16,">>168729341
We're not waiting for a financial crisis. We are getting in a position from which we can affect change with greater confidence, and we can do that under normal conditions as well.
It's just a fact that if & when a crash *does* come, our enemies are in a much better position to win the confidence of the population then we are.
And it's not just about debt, it's about the economy. Once the boomers start retiring and the younger generations take their place, there's going to be a higher ratio of people on welfare compared to those working- in an economy, as you pointed out, with no industrial backing.
The point is, that is going to start a chain reaction tht'll see britain's economy tank. the debt is a *contributing* factor; the real problem is our demographics, and they aren't so stable.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524136216
168705688,168730505,2018-04-19 11:13:38,">>168729531
Oh, by the way, I don't wanna /soc/ fag around here, but 
since you ""saw"" my appproximate face now, do you think I am lacking
a girlfriend due to aesthetics, or do I simply have to be more social?
I could work out and become more muscular to try and get past the
4.5/10 looks, the question is, does that work?
One more (unrelated) question:
In another thread they were talking about the participationist role of Hans Asperger, who discovered the Asperger syndrom in the NS euthanasia program.
Does any anon know if Asperger-autists would have gotten the needle/gas?",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),title.png,wME6hxVEYem5i1wHg3peHg==,DE,,1524136418
168705688,168730592,2018-04-19 11:14:24,">>168705688
Bump",,Anonymous,1523238710007.png,B2TfrlJG8V83wxjBte+Mvw==,US,,1524136464
168705688,168730608,2018-04-19 11:14:34,">>168730048
Maybe nothing like the photo, but it could be too much of a likeness to risk posting online. Especially for us Euros.",,1- Gr.Manchester,The main concern.png,jhCPCAST1qMHJ18c+T1enA==,GB,,1524136474
168705688,168730875,2018-04-19 11:17:37,">>168730608
>tfw a 1984 dystopi manifests
>tfw it is both horrifying and a fucking joke at the same time",,Anonymous,exif-not-found-x-sgt-adam-turvey-mpscazenove-jun-22-1158988[1].png,3GkjnelY17OHLtLNTcMpBA==,DE,,1524136657
168705688,168730999,2018-04-19 11:19:04,">>168730875
>2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich)
Man, I need to get more disciplined with this namefagging, when I crosspost in different threads.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524136744
168705688,168731090,2018-04-19 11:20:19,">>168730505
Probably not, they were looking for serious mental defects that prevented any kind of normal function in society, not just problems with social interaction. Maybe in lower-functioning cases, but 90% of 4chan would be fine.
And you look fine, anon, but it obviously doesn't hurt to work out. If autism is your concern then i'm guessing it's to do with being social.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524136819
168705688,168731211,2018-04-19 11:21:44,">>168730875
The weapon sweeps aren't that big a deal actually. It's basically just litter duty that they can use to assure little old ladies that they're taking dangerous weapons off the street without actually having to go after crime.
*That's* the horrifying part.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524136904
168705688,168731586,2018-04-19 11:26:06,">>168731090
>If autism is your concern then i'm guessing it's to do with being social.
Goddmanit, I specificallly said the question was unrelated.
I got a ""dignosis"", but in the end it is probably overdiagnosed,
and I was a 16y/o edgelord with depression looking to see how accurate psychological examination is.
Alas, after having simply played ""To The Moon"" and applying that to the conversations,
I was successful in getting me a nice little diagnosis.
I was looking if I could get that ""De-certified"", but in the end it
turned out that such a diagnosis is useful in court-cases.
I experienced it first hand after I bloodied a snadnigger/turk that with my swiss knife (and no, I didn't use the blade for that).
Literally just said I am autistic and believed with all my faith that I was going to be killled the moment that sandnigger laid hands on me.
>Oh, you are autistic
>Ah, I guess you couldn't tell the social ques then
>Okay, looks like the sandnigger was at fault
I still feel bad about it though, the wound that that dude has is permanent.
Even if he is ""just"" a sandnigger.
>>168731211
Hehe, it's a fucking joke man.
>Get a life!
>Bin that battery acid, Achmed!",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524137166
168705688,168732283,2018-04-19 11:34:16,">>168730875
Ugh, they'll never learn",,Anonymous,received_1889319891092123.jpg,5CJXSi4J4qDBeQazItahdw==,US,,1524137656
168705688,168732486,2018-04-19 11:36:52,>>168705688,,Anonymous,fit.png,woL0zexUkmLyOBuoDawBfw==,IT,,1524137812
168705688,168732598,2018-04-19 11:38:11,">>168732486
Saved. Thanks anon",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524137891
168705688,168732732,2018-04-19 11:39:45,">>168705688
So, basically, we would be playing the long game, hoping that everything crashes in our lifetime and we are seen as the saviors of the new world, or I missed something?
Anyway, the 2nd phase leads nowhere, there would only be small cells doing whatever they want, after a while every cell will have its own mutated ideas based on the very ill-defined original ideas/ideals and won't be able to reconcile with each other anymore. The ""no face to attack"" principle works for terrorist organizations but not something like this. IF this goes ahead it needs to be known, to gather followers, to have explicit guidelines and also a central power. Not at first, with that I agree, but down the line it WILL be necessary, and because of that it should have strong long term plan since the beggining.
I am deeply interessed, but the way I see it, in its current form this won't work for the proposed objective.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1524137985
168705688,168732961,2018-04-19 11:42:24,As long as you suggesting/social/ nobody will take you seriously. We need to be dogwhistling in public. Get a fashy haircut and wear a tank with 88 on it to the gym or something. Telling people to meet up with sodomites from /soc/ is just retarded,,Anonymous,,,US,,1524138144
168705688,168733050,2018-04-19 11:43:17,">>168732283
Kek.
Oh, by the way, I was recently in a thread and incredibly frustrated with the adherence to the goddamn NS symbolism (we're not even talking ideology yet).
Here, since you are american, I highly reccomend watching these.
Thaere is a good reason that GI/IE/IB is so heavily shilled against and labeled ""controlled opposition"".
It is because from these organizations you can get some actual formation and ground as a movement, because
they kick out the ""hollywood nazis"" that'll be interrupting the demos in the USA
with their shaven heads, cross-bar white lacing and trooper boots.
Here you go, I highly reccomend spreading these videos:
PART 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OFW0eRHEmg
PART 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPi2PJwAUTg
PART 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvRyfFjnBvk",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),Vanguard_Sig_Logo_Yellow_Black_Ib_Idnetitarian_Ancap_Theme.png,N0zeF0MEFAWrOZp4rVKyXw==,DE,,1524138197
168705688,168733097,2018-04-19 11:43:45,">>168732732
No, we'd be getting ourselves into a position to affect change with more confidence. It's just a good motivator to remember that, if & when the crash comes, it's a good idea to *be* in that position.
And somewhere down the line, yes, that probably will be necessary, but considering the risk of arrest for opinion, ""terrorist"" tactics are the only thing that's going to get us into the communities.
>>168732961
We're not meeting people from /soc/. We're meeting people from here, and using /soc/ colonies to do that.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524138225
168705688,168733295,2018-04-19 11:45:47,">>168733050
The ideology is explicitly NAtionlist, we go over that in the third post in the OP.
Same with the symbol.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524138347
168705688,168733409,2018-04-19 11:47:01,">>168732486
thank you very much for the screencap",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1524138421
168705688,168733647,2018-04-19 11:49:38,">>168705688
you should join your efforts with /sig/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524138578
168705688,168733754,2018-04-19 11:50:35,">>168705713
I wrote that pasta. Can I just say how glorious I think these threads are? They're almost exactly what I had in mind so I was fucking blown away when I saw the first edition. What's even freakier is that I had that exact symbol (stylised flash and circle) for a future political project regarding a think-tank.
It took a while for me to say but good job OP, count me in.",,Anonymous,1500499091210.png,Penl0+lNa9fnGy+3kCFm5w==,GB,,1524138635
168705688,168733770,2018-04-19 11:50:38,">>168732961
>>168733097
Tell me, George, vi do zey never read ze OP, reading ze OP iz ze key to ze understanding of ze action.
Zis is vot I meant ven I woz talking about ze ""A D H D - Anons"".
Zis lack of attention vill be our donfall, George.
>>168733295
Yes, I know, but as you see that American didn't read that post.
So I made sure to link to it and maybe 
there'll be one dummy less to support the agree-and-amplify shills in the coming threads about ""optics""
(And how they (((supposedly))) do not matter)
Same thing here:
>>168732961
>Get a fashy haircut and wear a tank with 88 on it
In Germany you are instantly a meme if you do this, and in America it is the same thing,
only that there will probably not be as much agression and persecution.
But normies still will think ill of it and view that person as Shizo, regardless of how ""correct"" Hitler was and how little he did ""wrong"".
Normies don't know this.
They see the 88
They think you're a Nazi
Nazis are bad in the Normie's mind.
I really wonder what there is not to understand about that.
Optics matter.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524138638
168705688,168733789,2018-04-19 11:50:46,">>168733647
We've been linkin the general on theirs for the last week. Do you think it'd be a good idea to start posting the OP in there as well? I didn't want too in case people thought I was shilling.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524138646
168705688,168734155,2018-04-19 11:54:45,">>168733754
Great minds think alike, I guess.
Seriously, it was a good explanation of where we're headed. Certainly got me motivated to start doing something now.
>>168733770
Point taken. But it's still asier to just link the occasional skimmer back to the post then having to type it out to them multiple times. I'll be making the pastebin a little clearer in the next thread, though.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524138885
168705688,168734560,2018-04-19 11:59:03,">>168733647
I think /sig/ should be absorbed into Vanguardism
>(Or /Van/guardism; sorry couldn't resist)
this is primarily a politics board, and the focus of this thread lies on Politics, while Sig does not, and is thus deleted often.
Perhaps making the /sig/ informations into a part of the OP posts would help.
Also perhaps somehow putting all resources into one zipped folder.
That way a single donwload link can be provided, from someone who is techy enough to not get caught, as there is probably DMCA offense in there.
After giving out the oft-updated ""all in one"" archive, one could simply make demanding, ordering commands for anons to read this and that.
Like, have each thread put a focus on a different part of the resources the Anons need to learn and absorb, so that there is actually inclination to discuss the OP and a specific goal to the thead.
That way things do not become stale and there is actual progress.
I really have to sit my arse down and hone my autism to make that archive a reality, I think it has huge potential, if everything
that we use is downloadable in one big archive.
It would lower the barrier immensly and raise participation, especially if threads are dedicated to
a certain part of that easily downloadable universal archive so that there can be a focus and
an instruction; an undertaking in the thread.
This could look like so:
>Archive link
""In this thread we will be discussing the propagandistic apsect and how memes and 
ideas spread on the interent, along with how they are best disseminated""
""The according resources are located in , open ,  and , now start reading in order to learn for a bit instead of shitposting""
Something like this.
Short and spicy.
Sets the agenda and goal quickly.
Prevents the general from becoming stale.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),AfD_Chan_Drawthread_Drawthreads_Pol_Drawfagging_Ebin_Memes.jpg,zySMn7yCLOJ3ZxBYWtD6ZA==,DE,,1524139143
168705688,168734725,2018-04-19 12:00:36,">>168734155
>just link the occasional skimmer back to the post then having to type it out to them multiple times. I'll be making the pastebin a little clearer in the next thread, though.
Yeah, should have done that.
Efficiency is really important after all.
>make the pastebin clearer
The one that I made?
What are you changing, just so I know what was unclear?
Or amybe I can even pre-edit a little for you?",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),Pepe_Wojak_Jurassic_Park_Safari_Reveal_Scene.jpg,lh5nTWW6851VAbVQ8eiFOQ==,DE,,1524139236
168705688,168734801,2018-04-19 12:01:30,">>168734725
No, clearer in the OP. As in more visible. The text is fine.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524139290
168705688,168734864,2018-04-19 12:01:58,Bump. Good afternoon lads,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524139318
168705688,168735214,2018-04-19 12:05:48,">>168734864
Afternoon, lad.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524139548
168705688,168735579,2018-04-19 12:09:51,">>168722431
>setting up an 8 board
Won't it get flamed by 8polacks who will just try to dox people because they think it's a honeypot like everything else?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524139791
168705688,168735905,2018-04-19 12:13:05,">>168735579
Maybe.
I mean, we'll be starting small, and by the time they hear about the board the meetings should be underway and it should be pretty obvious we're not a honeypot by then.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524139985
168705688,168735983,2018-04-19 12:14:03,"Do you guys think National Action were a honeypot? They seemed pretty LARPy to me, I'm undecided.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524140043
168705688,168736156,2018-04-19 12:15:48,">>168734801
Ah, okay.
And what about the above idea?
Am I focusing on needless details or could a universal single-source acquisition of the resources we use to educate and further ourselves actually help?
Along with the idea of contextually varying focus thread by thread.
This was something that become apparent at my High-School:
The lower classes were put into a new scheme:
S.O.L. (=self organized learning).
Some kids were very successful just being given material and being told ""go right ahead"",
but for the most part they needed further instructions and dircetions.
Now, the Anons here are not kids, but I assume that the human psyche stays similar in the aspect of taking spontaneous, self-initiated actions.
Give an Anon a download link and he *might* download the contents.
Give an Anon a download link and say ""get it before it's taken down"" or ""this is important; download it now"" and he probably downloads it and then perhaps peek into it
Give an Anon a download link, command him to get it and say ""read this and that"" and he probably downloads, peeks and perhaps even interrupts his shitposting for a moment to read further into it
Give an Anon a download link, make him get it, say ""read this and that"" and add ""We will be doing X and Y based of off 'this' and 'that' itt"" and he downloads, peeks, reads and perhaps even contributes something useful besides:
Lol:
>Vanguardism general
More like
>/Van/guardism general xD",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),Escaping_Meme_Hell_Helping_Pepe_Wojak_Poor_Reaching_Out_Sad_Smug_Abstraact.jpg,NIatDmKkloOjJbwxNk+A2w==,DE,,1524140148
168705688,168736246,2018-04-19 12:16:44,">>168735983
If you are really reasonably in doubt, just start your own, small movement.
That is the entire philosophy of Vanguardism.
Perhaps read le OP?",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524140204
168705688,168736266,2018-04-19 12:17:00,"What would be the end result of this organising process? Is it just to set aside men of character who would crop up when the happening occurs, to organise into a viable political movement?
Because if that's the goal, I think the first step really ought to be a think-tank. A policy institute based around an ideology, and I think that ideology should be a third positionist ideology for the 21st century (not Nazism; it has to be organic). I have my own autistic scribblings of what this could be, but this is way off into the future. You guys ought to be in the know though, I just wish there was a way to discuss these ideas with someone.
>>168735905
I suppose the danger of that scenario would be an infiltrator from 8pol using the real-life meetups as a way to guide local Antifa or someone to come fuck us over.
>>168735983
Of the guys I know of, I don't think so. They were Ironmarch guys who came together to create a group, and that's really all it was.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524140220
168705688,168736385,2018-04-19 12:18:19,">>168735983
I'm not really decided either. A little suspicios how HOPE not HATE found out about their warehouse, though. The members that were caught in the army i could understand because it's the army, of course there's going to be some security. But that always seemed odd to me.
>>168736156
No, it sounds good. We'd have to let people know in /SIG/ next time they make a thread, of course.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524140299
168705688,168736602,2018-04-19 12:20:34,">>168736266
Can you DM people on Gab? If not, we cold set up some protonmail accounts or something.
And that's more of a danger from lefty/pol/, really. And we'd be able to spot their shills a mile away in real life, they're obvious enough in text.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524140434
168705688,168736781,2018-04-19 12:22:18,">>168736385
>I'm not really decided either. A little suspicios how HOPE not HATE found out about their warehouse, though.
Yeah I wondered about that also. Maybe it started off legit, it might of just got infiltrated though I guess, it only takes one.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524140538
168705688,168736918,2018-04-19 12:23:37,">>168736246
>Perhaps read le OP?
I have.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524140617
168705688,168737455,2018-04-19 12:29:12,">>168732732
I think you are of my mindset, Brazil. 
Here is how I picture it being a force. 
1-meet, exchange ideas, hang out, debate bond
2-become visible and helpful in communities
3-consolidate/unify
4-expand and rise
Ignore the crash stuff entirely, or just hold it as a mindset (if there was a collapse of power, what assets have I accumulated?) 
The advantage of cellular organaisation in case is that you can focus almost entirely on the local game, which other people wouldn't understand, and your cell doesn't have to adhere to any hierarchy or enforced ideology or anything like that.
Also who says central power or explicit guidelines are a necessity? Labour movements have historically avoided them and wield enormous power, so did masonic societies and british old boy's networks",,5-Sceptic(SW Londonistan),,,GB,,1524140952
168705688,168737564,2018-04-19 12:30:19,">>168737455
>or just hold it as a mindset
Yes, anon, that's the point.
As i've explained already.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524141019
168705688,168737570,2018-04-19 12:30:20,">>168705688
Well no shit. In order to do this we need to first have total mastery over our own lives. Physical, emotional, spiritual. We need to have money and influence. We need to control major companies and have positions of political power. We need to have the biggest concentration of power and money. This is the only way to save our civilization. It's not impossible either. We just need to decide to do it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524141020
168705688,168737742,2018-04-19 12:32:01,">>168736918
Oh, sorry then.
I don't know what you want answered then.
Excuse my dum-dum.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524141121
168705688,168737767,2018-04-19 12:32:17,">>168737570
I'm glad to see there's at least 1 uncucked leaf left on this site.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524141137
168705688,168737863,2018-04-19 12:33:13,">>168737742
Man, I really have to make a habit of checking whether or not my namefield is correctly applied.
This little mechanism of noticing is actually pretty useful in the long run
if it becomes established now early on.",,2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524141193
168705688,168738116,2018-04-19 12:35:43,">>168735983
not a honeypot, just another non-starter that was visible enough to have a strong backlash. 
Something to bear in mind, certainly and another strong argument for cellular organisation.",,5-Sceptic(SW Londonistan),,,GB,,1524141343
168742921,168742921,2018-04-19 13:25:43,"Here is the pastebin for the registry; I added a syntax and made it easily readable:
https://pastebin.com/raw/pf6LVcfG
>Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk [Embed]
>What is Vanguardism?
There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.",Vanguardism general - Registry Edition,Anonymous,Vanguard_Sig_Logo_Yellow_Black_Ib_Idnetitarian_Ancap_Theme.png,N0zeF0MEFAWrOZp4rVKyXw==,DE,,1524144343
168742921,168742997,2018-04-19 13:26:29,">>168742921
>What’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
1ST PHASE-
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
2ND PHASE-
>Start volunteering
>Start attending community events
>Start getting involved in local politics and campaigns
Become known, dependable faces in your local community
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates).
Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.
>Sorry for [Embed] [Embed]",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524144389
168742921,168743107,2018-04-19 13:27:38,"QUESTIONS & COMPLAINTS
>How do we go about meeting people?
There’s an entire board dedicated to just that. >>>/soc/
We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people. I’d also recommend getting a protonmail account and a gab.ai account, for arranging the meetupsin more detail then a general area.
>I’m a Civic Nationalist, can I join?
No. Civicuckery is doublethink trying to marry what is factual with what is socially acceptable. This is a Nationalist Vanguard, not a Liberalist meetup.
>Do we have a more permanent online base?
We’re getting one, but 4chan doesn’t allow links. One we’ve got enough attention on these threads, I’ll set up a /soc/ colony asking for burner emails and send you the link from there.
>”Start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down.
Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society.
If they wanted to start passing legislation or making arrests, they would have to admit, publicly, that the ONLY reason they are against it is because we are right-wing. And if you’ve been paying attention over the last few years, revealing their hand hasn’t done them any good.
>”Google vanguardism- first result Leninism”
If you google Socialism, you get Marxist theory. Does that make National Socialists Marxists?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524144458
168742921,168743134,2018-04-19 13:27:55,">”Isn’t that a fascist symbol? The media could attack us for that, you should change it”
1. This is the symbol of the thread, not the movement, because
2. If you’d been paying attention you’d already know there is no single figure, organisation or symbol for the entire movement, specifically so that the media *can’t* attack us, and
3. If you consider a small display of nationalism like that to be a danger to the movement, then the movement isn’t for you.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524144475
168742921,168743175,2018-04-19 13:28:21,"Considering this movement is based at least partially on improving yourself, here is a 'MUST READ' list for your improvement.
-----------Required Reading-----------
Training and Fitness
https://pastebin.com/raw/1Q7d05H3
Survival
https://pastebin.com/raw/9F3FmLRW
Persuasion
https://pastebin.com/raw/tBrGzcNr
Money
https://pastebin.com/raw/5bQXey7A
Cooking - Useful to know but not as important as the others
https://pastebin.com/raw/uFAFMdiQ",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524144501
168742921,168743226,2018-04-19 13:28:43,I'm so tired of larpers,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1524144523
168742921,168744024,2018-04-19 13:36:25,Bump,,Anonymous,Jonathan_Bowden.jpg,W1IzvdoNVrHwc9f3RHhaxg==,GB,,1524144985
168742921,168744162,2018-04-19 13:37:37,">>168743226
Guess you're in the right place, then.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524145057
168742921,168745447,2018-04-19 13:49:29,"so basically you're bunch of random disorganised, socially inept internet-addicts, that want to take over leadership positions in case of some apocalyptic event, with no precise plan of action, besides organising book disscusion meetings and self-improvement techniques. Delightfull horseshit",,Anonymous,Laugh.jpg,pLGLRmmSdb2MZaBvprtVVg==,,,1524145769
168841804,168841804,2018-04-20 08:27:51,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk [Embed]
>What is Vanguardism?
There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.",Vanguardism general - persistence wins the race edition,Anonymous,Vanguard_Sig_Logo_Yellow_Black_Ib_Idnetitarian_Ancap_Theme.png,N0zeF0MEFAWrOZp4rVKyXw==,DE,,1524212871
168841804,168841821,2018-04-20 08:28:10,">What’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
1ST PHASE-
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
2ND PHASE-
>Start volunteering
>Start attending community events
>Start getting involved in local politics and campaigns
Become known, dependable faces in your local community
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates).
Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524212890
168841804,168842514,2018-04-20 08:37:28,Surrey reporting in.,,Anonymous,1505854632794.png,xkNIJunQpUwPyEu/J0tHBA==,GB,,1524213448
168841804,168843127,2018-04-20 08:46:32,"QUESTIONS & COMPLAINTS
>How do we go about meeting people?
There’s an entire board dedicated to just that. >>>/soc/
We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people. I’d also recommend getting a protonmail account and a gab.ai account, for arranging the meetupsin more detail then a general area.
>I’m a Civic Nationalist, can I join?
No.
>Do we have a more permanent online base?
We’re getting one, but 4chan doesn’t allow links. One we’ve got enough attention on these threads, I’ll set up a /soc/ colony asking for burner emails and send you the link from there.
>”Start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down.
Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society.
If they wanted to start passing legislation or making arrests, they would have to admit, publicly, that the ONLY reason they are against it is because we are right-wing. And if you’ve been paying attention over the last few years, revealing their hand hasn’t done them any good.
>”Google vanguardism- first result Leninism”
If you google Socialism, you get Marxist theory. Does that make National Socialists Marxists?
>”Isn’t that a fascist symbol? The media could attack us for that, you should change it”
1. This is the symbol of the thread, not the movement, because
2. If you’d been paying attention you’d already know there is no single figure, organisation or symbol for the entire movement, specifically so that the media *can’t* attack us, and
3. If you consider a small display of nationalism like that to be a danger to the movement, then the movement isn’t for you.",,No. 2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524213992
168841804,168843141,2018-04-20 08:46:50,">""Meetups are a Honeypots; CIAniggers - NSAfags - A*tifaTiots - NiggerGangs - SpicCartells, AUHghghGHGHghghghGHGGHGHghghGH!!11!111!!!!1!""
t.AutistWhoPorbablyDoesn'tEvenObfuscateHisInternetAdressOn4chan
Okay, all that irony aside, you guys have much too high of a sense of persecution, it's not *that* bad.
Of course you can meet up with anons, I have and it's fun, plus it avoids getting too lonely and black-pilled.
Only concern-shills, the overly concerned Anons and perhaps stupid Anons talk/post about some sort of ploy
to arrest Anons that decide to meet up from here. For as long as you don't plan to bomb anything or start some
sort of violent action, there is literally no reason to be afraid. Be a little more positive, Anon!
So, that considered, I decided to think a little and provided a basic, common-sense instruction on how
to get to know an anon, from reading his message on a random thread on here to actually shaking hands.
Here is the instruction, Pastebin be thanked:
https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
>https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
>https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
>https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
>https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
>https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
>https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh
>https://pastebin.com/raw/9cKSXDZh",,No. 2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524214010
168841804,168843164,2018-04-20 08:47:08,"-----------Required Reading-----------
Training and Fitness
https://pastebin.com/raw/1Q7d05H3
Survival
https://pastebin.com/raw/9F3FmLRW
Persuasion
https://pastebin.com/raw/tBrGzcNr
Money
https://pastebin.com/raw/5bQXey7A
Cooking - Useful to know but not as important as the others
https://pastebin.com/raw/uFAFMdiQ",,No. 2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524214028
168841804,168843283,2018-04-20 08:49:00,">>168842514
I made a mistake in the names list, by the way:
Adding '##' as first symbols in the name field makes it a tripcode.
So there's that, I never used trips, does that make me a newfag or a non-faggot?
Anyways, what do you advise to be the first symbols before the number/serial ID?
Should I just swallow the meme-pill and make it SS-bolts or a Hakenkreuz?",,No. 2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524214140
168841804,168843631,2018-04-20 08:54:37,"Number 5 checking in.
Think i pissed off the teacher last time, my bad. Had a chill walk with the dog today. Just headed to work for a late shift lads. 
Today's goal, 7k in 45 minutes, wish me luck. 
Reminder to check in on the elderly, it's fucking roasting out there.",,5-(SW Londonistan),,,GB,,1524214477
168841804,168843946,2018-04-20 08:59:14,">>168843283
I know you're German and you like your overregulated bureaucracy, but you might be overthinking the details.
Just keep it as it is and let people do whatever.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524214754
168841804,168844237,2018-04-20 09:03:39,">>168841804
Have you read Archeofuturism from Alain de Benoist? I think that book is perfectly compatible with what you are advocating. Also, I just had a deja vu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524215019
168841804,168844332,2018-04-20 09:05:08,">>168843946
...Oh well, haha.
>verifying german stereotypes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqRb4H_Y_Ic
That song is actually pretty cringy and satire-heavy if you think about it.
And everyone that uploads the song that is not some 9year old upload is focused on military.
Not that I don't like having a military, but hell, norms would be less opposed to
having pride in their nation and people if it weren't constantly made a militaristic ideal.
>>168844237
>Ancap colors
>Ancap joins in thread
Like a teens litte bee.. :^)
I have added it to my list of things to check out, thanks anon.
Whether the commies are gassed or hung from helicopters, both is going to do the job.
Heh.",,No. 2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524215108
168841804,168844602,2018-04-20 09:09:07,">>168844332
Ancapistan has better memes, though yours has the better school of though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524215347
168841804,168844745,2018-04-20 09:11:11,">>168841804
>>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
First step on the road to selling out
The suit is to the business cuck what the hanging pants is to the nigger - a dog whistle that you're down-to-fuck
Black boots, cargo pants, jacket and hats are the way to go
We need to distinguish ourselves from the status quo, not become them
I'm into most of the other points though",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524215471
168841804,168844756,2018-04-20 09:11:20,">>168844602
thought*",,Anonymous,,,,,1524215480
168841804,168845324,2018-04-20 09:18:37,">>168844332
Ich hab Stolz in meine Nation, aber die Bundeswehr ist ein Witz. Vor allem seit Flintenuschi dran gekommen ist.
Nicht das uns das Militär von Nutzen ist mit der NATO und der EU...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524215917
168841804,168845487,2018-04-20 09:20:57,">>168841804
Cool name, but quick reminder that the US Navy’s Vangaurd sattelite mission failed on its first launch.
I’m sure the commies had a good laugh over *kaputnik.",,Anonymous,15208D90-F044-4349-9846-429BFE8E78DC.jpg,sUf062JIQXqduwN/Qte28g==,US,,1524216057
168841804,168845773,2018-04-20 09:25:17,">>168843946
>>168844602
>>168844756
Okay..
Oh, and to the brit; I just can't resist.
Displaying a higher than average level of order and organization is sure to attract some more anons.
Especially those that are frustrated by the constant sliding and shilling in addition to the lack of general discipline of many anons that reply to the bait threads.
https://pastebin.com/raw/We1SSwPu",,Anon 2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524216317
168841804,168845856,2018-04-20 09:26:21,">>168845324
Yep, the Bundes""wehr"" is a bad joke.
Flintenushi is more occupied hunting some margianl nazism in the army and banning songs that were dear to the soldiers instead of leading anything.
Warning; women in charge.",,Anon 2 - Germanistan (50Km SouSouEas of Munich),,,DE,,1524216381
168841804,168846363,2018-04-20 09:33:54,"No romanian in the southern part ?
Sad",,Anonymous,,,,,1524216834
168841804,168846397,2018-04-20 09:34:25,">>168846363
Better",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1524216865
168841804,168846501,2018-04-20 09:35:47,Éirebro checking in.,,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524216947
168841804,168847708,2018-04-20 09:51:58,"This is larp shit, but you are going to meet in the jewk, Shrewsbury is a good place. 
With the weather warming up, we could make it a day of just pissing around and getting to know each other. This Vanguard shit is cringey though, drop it and just be a normal fucking dude and not some larping faggot on 4cuck.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524217918
168959096,168959096,2018-04-21 07:13:49,">INTRODUCTION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk
>PASTEBIN (save & read later, more information inside)
https://pastebin.com/raw/GP9jmnFx
>WHAT IS VANGUARDISM?
There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.",Vanguardism General,Anonymous,Vanguard2.png,N0zeF0MEFAWrOZp4rVKyXw==,GB,,1524294829
168959096,168959124,2018-04-21 07:14:21,">What’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
1ST PHASE-
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
2ND PHASE-
>Start volunteering
>Start attending community events
>Start getting involved in local politics and campaigns
Become known, dependable faces in your local community
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates).
Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.",,Anonymous,The Crash.png,QHid/XhorpY3Urz0p2UjHQ==,GB,,1524294861
168959096,168959141,2018-04-21 07:14:42,"QUESTIONS & COMPLAINTS
>How do we go about meeting people?
There’s an entire board dedicated to just that. >>>/soc/
We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people. I’d also recommend getting a protonmail account and a gab.ai account, for arranging the meetupsin more detail then a general area.
>I’m a Civic Nationalist, can I join?
No. Civicuckery is doublethink trying to marry what is factual with what is socially acceptable. This is a Nationalist Vanguard, not a Liberalist meetup.
>Do we have a more permanent online base?
We’re getting one, but 4chan doesn’t allow links. One we’ve got enough attention on these threads, I’ll set up a /soc/ colony asking for burner emails and send you the link from there.
>”Start bulding networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down.
Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society.
If they wanted to start passing legislation or making arrests, they would have to admit, publicly, that the ONLY reason they are against it is because we are right-wing. And if you’ve been paying attention over the last few years, revealing their hand hasn’t done them any good.
>”Google vanguardism- first result Leninism”
If you google Socialism, you get Marxist theory. Does that make National Socialists Marxists?
>”Isn’t that a fascist symbol? The media could attack us for that, you should change it”
1. This is the symbol of the thread, not the movement, because
2. If you’d been paying attention you’d already know there is no single figure, organisation or symbol for the entire movement, specifically so that the media *can’t* attack us, and
3. If you consider a small display of nationalism like that to be a danger to the movement, then the movement isn’t for you.",,Anonymous,Godwinson.gif,16mrkCbNtZwIx0JPYf3Mpg==,GB,,1524294882
168959096,168959378,2018-04-21 07:18:42,LARPing fucking losers kek.,,Andrew Lee James,,,GB,,1524295122
168959096,168959625,2018-04-21 07:23:05,bump,,Anonymous,1523538621164.png,HcR93nhStM23GazlzcNXrw==,GB,,1524295385
168959096,168959671,2018-04-21 07:23:52,,,Anonymous,file.png,9xQWaHuHnNNY120pUHrz6g==,GB,,1524295432
168959096,168959702,2018-04-21 07:24:19,,,Anonymous,file.png,a4aIyltfW1/es7LvS/UrSQ==,GB,,1524295459
168959096,168959744,2018-04-21 07:24:55,,,Anonymous,file.png,uDOBb2NkGx4+Id+cRg1MoQ==,GB,,1524295495
168959096,168959787,2018-04-21 07:25:46,">There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
>So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
>But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
>If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
>We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
>Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524295546
168959096,168959890,2018-04-21 07:27:44,"-----------Required Reading-----------
Training and Fitness
https://pastebin.com/1Q7d05H3
Survival
https://pastebin.com/9F3FmLRW
Persuasion
https://pastebin.com/tBrGzcNr
Money
https://pastebin.com/5bQXey7A
Cooking - Useful to know but not as important as the others
https://pastebin.com/uFAFMdiQ",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524295664
168959096,168960036,2018-04-21 07:30:07,">>168959890
Did you delete that, or did you just get mod'd?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524295807
168959096,168960091,2018-04-21 07:30:59,>>168959096,,Anonymous,1523362209485.gif,BzU5GrMLB4KbOKgwpQemJQ==,CA,,1524295859
168959096,168960099,2018-04-21 07:31:09,">>168960036
I deleted it. Saw you put it in your pastebin. Do you want me to put it back up?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524295869
168959096,168960109,2018-04-21 07:31:20,">Vanguardism
But that's fucking communism you reatard",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1524295880
168959096,168960175,2018-04-21 07:32:26,">>168960099
No it's OK, I was just wondering if the mods were deleting stuff.
>>168960109
See >>168959141",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524295946
168959096,168960182,2018-04-21 07:32:31,">>168960109
Read the thread, retard.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524295951
168959096,168960420,2018-04-21 07:36:37,">>168959096
Bump",,Anonymous,received_162976257683838.png,nyScLVpptZF3uNTM/L5NuQ==,NZ,,1524296197
168959096,168960580,2018-04-21 07:39:09,,,Anonymous,meditation.jpg,MylTMeggqmssYfXVdXxC2w==,GB,,1524296349
168959096,168960593,2018-04-21 07:39:19,,,Anonymous,1522712720913.png,0iBwM8WHA8D56Mr7C8+uEw==,GB,,1524296359
168959096,168960601,2018-04-21 07:39:30,,,Anonymous,1470531036036.png,HbCu3Q5HyrnXgI1O4hSEPw==,GB,,1524296370
168959096,168960679,2018-04-21 07:40:43,">>168960109
>Vanguardism
>define Vanguard
>a group of people leading the way in new developments or ideas.
Hardly in OP's post is it related to the previous used text.
Aryanism came from Central Asia and the ancient tribes, but Adolf Hitler made it a thing again in Nazi Germany. Things get re-used all the time, cry me a river",,Anonymous,1522719036162.png,EVYyMcXuX/k3bLvS7AQ4Mg==,CA,,1524296443
168959096,168960730,2018-04-21 07:41:32,">>168960109
>>Vanguardism
>But that's fucking communism you reatard
>mfw when people are too lazy or too retarded to fucking read",,Anonymous,e95.jpg,ms+Rr4dhV87d0R6GbZ2Gwg==,GB,,1524296492
168959096,168961005,2018-04-21 07:45:37,">>168959124
>We start organizing in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
How would we find each other without doxxing ourselves? It should be obvious that there are a lot of people who'd join a /soc/ colony just to get the dox of 'evil neo-nazis'",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524296737
168959096,168961174,2018-04-21 07:48:15,">>168961005
We're not giving out our phone numbers of addresses. Just our general area (the city, for instance) and then arranging somewhere to meet up.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524296895
168959096,168961242,2018-04-21 07:49:13,,,Anonymous,1514913292086.jpg,VgRam0wyvVwqUNH7EGU5eQ==,GB,,1524296953
168959096,168961262,2018-04-21 07:49:30,,,Anonymous,1518497051704.jpg,fQrG+cEXY3VFZFA2nqvS2A==,GB,,1524296970
168959096,168961286,2018-04-21 07:49:49,,,Anonymous,1518497112683.jpg,G24cI63fqby/pw4kCEMNCQ==,GB,,1524296989
168959096,168961613,2018-04-21 07:55:19,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524297319
168959096,168961639,2018-04-21 07:55:37,">>168961174
Yes but it still would be really easy to infiltrate such a group and then get information during a meetup. I mean, I like the idea but it feels like you are underestimating how big of a first step this is.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524297337
168959096,168961895,2018-04-21 08:00:14,">>168961639
It really isn't that big. In fact, meeting IRL is the smallest first step we could make.
I appreciate the concern for safety, but it's a small risk, and in this instance it's worth taking.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524297614
168959096,168962023,2018-04-21 08:02:15,">>168959096
Gee another snowflake offshoot larp club that espouses nothing new.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524297735
168959096,168962060,2018-04-21 08:02:55,>>168962023,,Anonymous,okay.gif,k6c4h+sFa5EeAjcTmIUrYw==,GB,,1524297775
168959096,168962106,2018-04-21 08:03:42,"I wish I could join, I truly do, but I'm in Korea till next year. Maybe then I can take part. Till then, /sig/ will have to do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524297822
168959096,168962237,2018-04-21 08:05:38,">>168962023
>muh LARP",,Anonymous,1523946245941.jpg,nVCFLj7JmALX0oGczIJxeg==,GB,,1524297938
168959096,168962766,2018-04-21 08:14:16,">>168961895
Alrighty, I still think there should be some kind off guidelines for meetups.
>be wary of anyone who immediately goes 1488
>be wary of anyone who advocates for terrorism
>don't share private information immediately
>etc
It may sound like common sense but better safe than sorry.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524298456
168959096,168963020,2018-04-21 08:17:58,ok im down to network. wheres the meetup thread?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524298678
168959096,168963078,2018-04-21 08:18:51,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1524298731
168959096,168963143,2018-04-21 08:19:57,">>168962766
It is pretty common sense.
And we're not advocating terrorism, we're not even advocating activism untill much later into the plan. This is about self-improvement & community outreach. 
Obviously the groups shouldn't tolerate any neo-nazi stereotypes, but discussion of the ideas & the honest beleif in them is fine.
>>168963020
We're building up attention right now. The meetup threads come when there's enough interest in the threads.
For now, we have these threads every day for discussion and communicating.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524298797
168959096,168963636,2018-04-21 08:27:46,">>168959096
Can I join?",,Anonymous,1524197497714.png,Ju8XdilRlXueMqxM8cauIQ==,LK,,1524299266
168959096,168963750,2018-04-21 08:30:03,">>168963636
RARE
Yeah sure, if you've got others in Sri Lanka who want to start a similar group for Sri Lankans.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524299403
168959096,168963862,2018-04-21 08:31:57,">>168963636
sure",,Anonymous,k.png,RNgtHL1bkCzXUvPrxp8OFA==,GB,,1524299517
168959096,168964133,2018-04-21 08:36:23,">>168963143
why not just make a soc thread right now?
give it a codename to fool normies.
i nominate basedlads uk meetup",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524299783
168959096,168964330,2018-04-21 08:39:41,">>168959096
You know vanguardism refers communist tactic right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524299981
168959096,168964407,2018-04-21 08:40:49,">>168964133
Because there's 5 brits in this thread, 2 of them are slide posters and the chances the three of us live in the same area is pretty slim.
There needs to be a good ratio.
I'm also working on an 8 board which should be up by thursday, so we can stay in touch & grow a more permanent base there.
>>168964330
See>>168959141",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524300049
168959096,168964755,2018-04-21 08:46:12,">>168964407
That's stupid. Why not call it Revolutionary Nationalism, and then claim it's about preventing revolutions?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524300372
168959096,168964758,2018-04-21 08:46:14,">Vanguardiasm is Communism
>See: [OP post about how the term is being adapted]
Is this gonna be a recurring theme of every thread?",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524300374
168959096,168965116,2018-04-21 08:51:34,">>168964758
>We're adapting English to mean something else
I didn't know this was a SJW thread. I am guessing you're adapting gender to mean what ever you want as well.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524300694
168959096,168965219,2018-04-21 08:53:17,">>168965116
>adapting English
Vanguard isn't a word that communists made up, or have any ownership over.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524300797
168959096,168965392,2018-04-21 08:56:12,">>168965116
The term Nationalism is pretty poisonous to a movement in the modern political landscape. What this anon said >>168965219, as well as the fact that even Hitler recognised the benfit of using the color red as a means of tricking Commies into following them. Not saying that's our intention using the word ""Vanguard"", but it certainly masks the truth of the group a bit. Seeing as people come into every thread thinking we're Commies when they take the thing at face value, I'd think it's a completely unexpected side effect of using the term.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1524300972
168959096,168965765,2018-04-21 09:01:29,">>168965392
We're not masking the truth of the group. In fact, the word ""Vanguard"" applies because it perfectly describes what we're trying to do.
It IS taking their tactic and using it against them, which i guess is what's pissing this guy off. But it's not a trick.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524301289
168959096,168965865,2018-04-21 09:03:05,">>168959096
>Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL,
Lol, no. CIA niggers really do glow in the dark don't they. We will continue to rule from the shadows of the internet, buddy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524301385
168959096,168966291,2018-04-21 09:09:23,">>168965865
We're not ruling a damn thing, that's the problem.
We have little influence outside of the internet, and even on it we have to move from one site to the next as censorship moves in.
Also, it's not much of a shadow when your government can arrest you for onine acivity as easily as offline.
You want to be a keyboard warrior for the rest of your life, fine. I want to make a difference.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524301763
168959096,168966951,2018-04-21 09:18:16,">>168965865
Read >>168959124
Follow that advice and MI5 and SB are almost welcome. As OP writes here >>168959141
> what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society.
*Obviously* need to be wary of agent provocateurs from either State or l/w bodies; and that’s dealt with here >>168963143 (Good advice from here >>168962766 Common sense but worth mentioning so that we agree that it is actually 'common'.)
It *is* a good idea, I wish the OP luck.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524302296
168959096,168967141,2018-04-21 09:20:57,BUMP,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524302457
168959096,168967309,2018-04-21 09:23:21,">>168966951
Thanks anon.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524302601
168959096,168967401,2018-04-21 09:24:29,">>168959096
Bump. Fuck the shills.",,Anonymous,this kills the shill.jpg,bhs2+P8irzlZLGBbeFwClg==,GB,,1524302669
168959096,168967452,2018-04-21 09:25:08,">>168965392
>>168965219
It was made by a Marxist",,Anonymous,,,,,1524302708
168959096,168967474,2018-04-21 09:25:27,">>168959096
bump",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524302727
168959096,168967579,2018-04-21 09:27:01,">>168967452
Leninist*
And nobody care, nothing in the context is communist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524302821
168959096,168967748,2018-04-21 09:29:08,">>168967579
I know, you're using the wrong term.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524302948
168959096,168967905,2018-04-21 09:31:10,">>168967748
No, you're misusing it.
""Vanguard"" is a word that predates communism, and it's not exclusive to it, not even colloquially.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524303070
168959096,168968131,2018-04-21 09:34:20,">>168967905
No it isn't and that isn't how it's used.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524303260
168959096,168968261,2018-04-21 09:36:16,">>168968131
van|guard
[ˈvanɡɑːd]
NOUN
vanguards (plural noun)
 a group of people leading the way in new developments or ideas.
 ""the experimental spirit of the modernist vanguard""
 a position at the forefront of new developments or ideas.
 ""the prototype was in the vanguard of technical development""
Origin
late Middle English (denoting the foremost part of an army): shortening of Old Frenchavan(t)garde, from avant‘before’ + garde‘guard’.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524303376
168959096,168968298,2018-04-21 09:36:50,">>168968261
Vanguard =/= vanguardism
herp derp",,Anonymous,,,,,1524303410
168959096,168968371,2018-04-21 09:38:04,">>168968298
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/vanguardism",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524303484
168959096,168968584,2018-04-21 09:40:50,">>168963750
>>168963862
This is a great idea. Millennials my age are pretty brainwashed by Marxist politics here - but there are many red pilled individuals here who are too afraid to speak out against the socialist power structure. They have no voice and there are no leaders with enough balls to challenge the globalist cuckery we're subjected to. I want to change this.
Will you guys have my back if I initiate something like this desu? We can make this an international movement.",,Anonymous,1524076152560m.jpg,ngbwRjVevX9FoKdTCsLS6g==,LK,,1524303650
168959096,168968707,2018-04-21 09:42:38,">>168968371
You're the leader of a school of thought?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524303758
168959096,168968761,2018-04-21 09:43:18,">>168968584
Anyone fighting to preserve their nation & tradition against globalism has my support, mate. After my own, that is.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524303798
168959096,168969585,2018-04-21 09:53:36,,,Anonymous,3aa66facd000112d53ea2ca4eedb2ce871f9d59f0a9003d0bd86e48fa7c14f25.jpg,J8Yrvz8lz6LoE4dlQ4VvAw==,GB,,1524304416
168959096,168969604,2018-04-21 09:53:47,,,Anonymous,6d908f2f5b6a8380d9df7ac51334a13d4aab9ef74657ccc7c10bbd60840ff405.png,tZq5G4/N6cruOLNBFJgGHg==,GB,,1524304427
168959096,168969741,2018-04-21 09:55:07,,,Anonymous,3aa66facd000112d53ea2ca4eedb2ce871f9d59f0a9003d0bd86e48fa7c14f25.jpg,J8Yrvz8lz6LoE4dlQ4VvAw==,GB,,1524304507
168959096,168969778,2018-04-21 09:55:29,">>168969604
Based beaver poster",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524304529
168959096,168970666,2018-04-21 10:06:18,,,Anonymous,7bdb3fdf970137c43a01feb442b71df8acc366f9d1f71abfea822b0bccd9c242.png,xeaQkWs1wqkWPfjDc71OwA==,GB,,1524305178
168959096,168970682,2018-04-21 10:06:29,,,Anonymous,7e083d25c5147905c12493dacb6d4bad2f7f18e25ab048066cdba63b332d5708.png,UXiu8PlVF7cfxMdjX5HiDA==,GB,,1524305189
168959096,168970692,2018-04-21 10:06:40,,,Anonymous,8bc0f4c3c623331942259885eafdd514dd9d9411968164e54fb018dc790e50df.png,T8X2tefeoG7dIei/LmYISw==,GB,,1524305200
168959096,168970751,2018-04-21 10:07:23,,,Anonymous,9c30952e90c9c583bd76e38863019c107a5cefb1849a01d3a440669896cc6234.png,PInYwwKQ3i7xpvsKI2PPZw==,GB,,1524305243
168959096,168970758,2018-04-21 10:07:35,,,Anonymous,65f099c0f55d8da6f1cf44591a4b2873c493938cd856fddc610e9a3102f33662.png,lah5pCYco23BlUQw2TBQJA==,GB,,1524305255
168959096,168970770,2018-04-21 10:07:46,,,Anonymous,83d9babcc6a3a462df320c82094b67623a8b64c77511e6060291b5ab947091d9.png,favG3dR8syaoptkttbTSWQ==,GB,,1524305266
168959096,168970786,2018-04-21 10:07:57,,,Anonymous,748bb4cca50b12ff2964ed4feedc095c581a0417cd6248a0c959e6d6c5b3701d.png,nlmpk8MBil1xgnp8wf3nkw==,GB,,1524305277
168959096,168970796,2018-04-21 10:08:07,,,Anonymous,db352bb11db8271684d10ebce6af9cd56f05780e4873d4b843cdb50bc061de94.png,fMaDf/ZdxEq3C2WC8b4Xew==,GB,,1524305287
168959096,168970807,2018-04-21 10:08:14,">>168968761
Sure, based Sri Lanka poster. Nationalists alike will always help each other",,Anonymous,1523974959610.jpg,IK1LZpuTVTz7IthRsEW6YA==,GB,,1524305294
168959096,168970834,2018-04-21 10:08:33,">>168970807
Oops, meant for >>168968584",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524305313
168959096,168971464,2018-04-21 10:16:54,I look forward to taking Alaska after the collapse and turning it into my own perfect Libertarian state. Who's with me?,,Anonymous,729f61c10824a2321dabc53664b6a7e940762634e140060d3f40a5cd57a32e50.gif,ZO5SNPJ3g/60xmV3ugvL6A==,,,1524305814
168959096,168971558,2018-04-21 10:18:03,,,Anonymous,7954bc7b7d3c346c9f5e6aea0e898b00721c7d92827770379c63dde77f77076d.jpg,NhHlv7Z2G8xQOIDg34QBhg==,,,1524305883
168959096,168971607,2018-04-21 10:18:38,,,Anonymous,1411349534126.jpg,VDrvgJevIrcopR19Fq+dSw==,,,1524305918
168959096,168971830,2018-04-21 10:21:20,,,Anonymous,1450818058720.jpg,zYQ8QJkBbiq1BnZP23Ffwg==,,,1524306080
168959096,168971993,2018-04-21 10:23:25,,,Anonymous,1450912260212.jpg,Ge+obP9i0ZQ6PskuqBVSwQ==,,,1524306205
168959096,168972077,2018-04-21 10:24:28,,,Anonymous,1492834768358.jpg,cdLMDu4Ofkbk2gsGqBt59w==,,,1524306268
168959096,168972201,2018-04-21 10:26:03,,,Anonymous,1523221879979.png,6LEor8KJYYZXOiK9DknvLQ==,,,1524306363
168959096,168972277,2018-04-21 10:26:56,,,Anonymous,1523416292432.jpg,JFVNm0DDwk2Zo6TaJR3rpA==,,,1524306416
168959096,168972363,2018-04-21 10:27:54,,,Anonymous,f030304b918dd9507b5c9c09630486a9cc618947ca8f9834decb4cf5ddf57319.png,5FurO7aVIsxJ6XvPpjqdnw==,,,1524306474
168959096,168972435,2018-04-21 10:28:44,">>168971464
>>168971558
>>168971607
>>168971830
>>168971993
>>168972077
Nice collections
>>168972201
Not sure about this one. I'm sure the books are fine, but AnCap is a meme.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524306524
168959096,168972473,2018-04-21 10:29:10,">>168971464
>I look forward to taking Alaska after the collapse and turning it into my own perfect Libertarian state.
I hope you get rid of the jews, other races and degenerates first. It'd be safer that way",,Anonymous,1523782740670.png,ALEAm+L/4O57xOkMO9D6VA==,GB,,1524306550
168959096,168972740,2018-04-21 10:32:33,">>168972473
>(((Libertarian)))",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524306753
168959096,168972787,2018-04-21 10:33:05,">>168972435
>Not sure about this one. I'm sure the books are fine, but AnCap is a meme.
It's somewhat of a meme, but the more you look into it, the more reasonable it gets. While I'm not 100% convinced, it very well may be viable.
>>168972473
>I hope you get rid of the jews, other races and degenerates first. It'd be safer that way
I may or may not do this. A lot of the most convincing arguments for liberty and capitalism were written by jews and blacks. As for degenerates, there's nothing you can really do to eliminate degenerate behavior. The best thing to do is contain it, and private property is the best way to do that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524306785
168959096,168973056,2018-04-21 10:36:29,">>168972787
>The more you look into it, the more reasonable it gets
>It may very well be viable
Well, thanks for the rest of the images, anyway.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524306989
168959096,168973239,2018-04-21 10:38:44,I'd like to hope this is real and not some CIA honeypot. Paranoia is a bitch,,Anonymous,1522842416478.gif,t7nf8c+bN6/FYM3mBCOUwA==,US,,1524307124
168959096,168973300,2018-04-21 10:39:32,">>168972740
More like ""libertarian"" \o",,Anonymous,,,,,1524307172
168959096,168973437,2018-04-21 10:41:11,">>168973239
It's not a honeypot, and it's designed specifically to make infiltration a non-issue. See >>168966951",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524307271
168959096,168973500,2018-04-21 10:41:58,">>168973239
I'm still paranoid too but it's not planned to be a centralised movement, the main issue is the few people who post here are scattered all around the UK but it's early days.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524307318
168959096,168973528,2018-04-21 10:42:22,"Remember friends, we're all on the same side here.",,Anonymous,d721cdd6cf80ce0164bdfebfa0ef350f50e6ff7372e31ebd468e5dc7681f8cfc.png,8+FbtrPUh8fSNIY+sr3wOQ==,,,1524307342
168959096,168973577,2018-04-21 10:43:06,">>168968761
As it should be, friendo ;>
>>168970807
I will keep my eye out for future Vanguardism posts. Thanks for the kind words, bud. We're in this together desu",,Anonymous,1524082885257.jpg,Z8nqpNOed/V3rMhVag3KOw==,LK,,1524307386
168959096,168973901,2018-04-21 10:46:46,">>168972740
Did I say anywhere I was libertarian? The anon I greentexted wanted it and therefore, if he truly wanted to do this, then I gave him advice to
>get rid of the jews, other races and degenerates first.
So that there was no more influene. I am cerainly no advocating for it. If anything pic related
>>168972787
>I may or may not do this.
Well you may very well not get anywhere if you at the very least don't get rid of the jews
>there's nothing you can really do to eliminate degenerate behavior.
Actually, there kind of is. Most of the degenerate behaviour comes from the media, which again is controlled mostly by (((them))). Remove the jews from media, banking and government. Then it's just removing the remains. It might not be that easy, but it is possible to do. It's been done before and it can be done again.",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.png,C4t/HESMymvbLI0KqyyJbg==,GB,,1524307606
168959096,168974016,2018-04-21 10:48:13,">>168973901
I wasn't calling you one I was pointing out that libertarians are pretty similar to Jews in their mindsets.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524307693
168959096,168974114,2018-04-21 10:49:36,">>168974016
Oh, fair enough then",,Anonymous,1523620484969.jpg,xUSmpMwoyZVgI/iOHEo79Q==,GB,,1524307776
168959096,168974169,2018-04-21 10:50:21,">>168959096
I have a question, is this version okay?
I revised it and streamlined:
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
>https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
>https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
I guess I could also revise the pastebin containing the OPs to contain a link to the above pastebin.
Btw, anons, are you still using the names or is it too much of a hassle?
I changed mine, didn't want to call it Germanistan anymore.
Do you lads erase the name when you post outside of this general?
What is more beneficial in your opinion?
>>168959141
This third post always breaches the 2000 character limit, what am I doing wrong desu?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),Memri_Check_Them_Allah_Willing.png,YyNvNPLTirjuoyQ/Koq48w==,DE,,1524307821
168959096,168974194,2018-04-21 10:50:41,">>168973577
Pic related, fellow nationalist",,Anonymous,1523617939663.jpg,KKnhZVyv6I4uq2qDFSi4nw==,GB,,1524307841
168959096,168974267,2018-04-21 10:51:37,">>168959787
>>There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
>>So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
>>But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
>>If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
>>We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
>>Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
Added to the general pastebin.
Well said, can I maybe change a thing or two in the wording and format?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524307897
168959096,168974339,2018-04-21 10:52:33,">>168960109
READ: >>168959141
It's not that hard.
It is simply the right term for the strategy being used.
You don't call a magazine a metal-box.
This specific term is simply accurate.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524307953
168959096,168974685,2018-04-21 10:56:52,">>168960730
This is why I advised for a radically short OP in which anons are literally just slapped with a single download link and the most recent instructions of what is read/discussed here for the moment.
Would anybody be open for it?
'Anon 1 - Gr.Manchester', what do you say, if you are here?
I had discussed this with you, and it would be cool if I could have quickly checked if you posted here, then I could have directly replied to ""you"", even if I know nothing more about you that you use the same name again and again.
This is the reason, I am just mentioning it since I felt I wasn't able to properly communicate what I thought could be achieved by having some sort of ""List Of Anons"":
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
>https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
Perhaps check out if you want to change anything?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),Memri_Meme_We_Will_Evetually_Miss_The_Days_Of_Hitler.png,FWXPFSr/9b1Ogo/PpjCFpg==,DE,,1524308212
168959096,168974736,2018-04-21 10:57:45,">>168974169
Looks decent.
Why is ""me"" and ""i'm"" in quotes though?
And yeah, i tend to go back to anon when i'm not in the threads.
It's also pretty useful if you're using a vpn like I do.
And i'm not sure, it's not over 2000 characters and i've never had that problem when uplaoding before.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524308265
168959096,168974743,2018-04-21 10:57:50,">>168962023
>offshoot larp club
""Larping"" would imply that it is not doable.
But it is, you fat larping neckbeard.
I guess not for you, since you don't meet other people much.
So I kinda get your point, just leave.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308270
168959096,168974771,2018-04-21 10:58:13,"Greetings Kamaraden. 
I may know a guy who can make videos like this 
https://www.bitchute.com/video/0ONZSCDt7gLl/
What would you lads think about videos to do with what we have here?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524308293
168959096,168974775,2018-04-21 10:58:19,">>168974194
THAT WARMED MY HEART",,Anonymous,1523898397344.jpg,cT4hFTArm/1012lFXabTWg==,LK,,1524308299
168959096,168974780,2018-04-21 10:58:21,">>168962023
>Live Action Role Playing",,Anonymous,,,,,1524308301
168959096,168974816,2018-04-21 10:58:50,">>168962106
If you're gonna be here regularily you can start namefagging, that way we can better adapt our conversations itt and have a more efficient organization speed.
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
>https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308330
168959096,168974820,2018-04-21 10:58:51,">>168974114
I went down a similar pipeline, I was libertarian when my father explained the major flaws of democracy then I moved into a city centre for university and witnessed the Weimar levels of degeneracy all around me that I had bought into. I researched the third position after being introduced to fascism by a Russian lad who was the type of man I wanted to be and never looked back. I've never been closer to family and I ditched all those ""friends"" who were leading me into the empty lifestyle of hedonistic of meaningless sex and drugs.",,Anonymous,beady brigade.jpg,vKQCOk0QcU/TUhAZDfltdA==,GB,,1524308331
168959096,168974952,2018-04-21 11:00:30,">>168974775
Are you the Sri Lankan I see in /sg/ occasionally?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524308430
168959096,168974989,2018-04-21 11:00:55,">>168974194
Why not just build a bridge? Nationalists aren't too smart.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524308455
168959096,168975049,2018-04-21 11:01:32,">>168973901
>Well you may very well not get anywhere if you at the very least don't get rid of the jews
Jews aren't automatically evil. Expelling people based on their ancestry is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Judging the entirety of someone's personality and character based on one factor like that is illogical and unreasonable.
>Actually, there kind of is. Most of the degenerate behaviour comes from the media, which again is controlled mostly by (((them))).
Remember Marilyn Manson? Sex, drugs, and rock and roll? That whole thing? The media was stomping on perceived degeneracy as hard as they could and that all happened regardless. There's less than a 10% trust rate in modern media now, and you think they're mind controlling people into performing degenerate acts they wouldn't otherwise do?
>Remove the jews from media, banking and government.
The jews can start whatever media company and banks they like, so can anyone else. If you wanted, you could as well, as you should if you're worried about a jew monopoly in these fields. As for government, a Libertarian government could have even the most corrupt fuck in charge and still do a lot better than what we have going on now.
>Then it's just removing the remains. It might not be that easy, but it is possible to do. It's been done before and it can be done again.
What do you actually define degeneracy as? Because if we're defining it the same way, attempting to control it at all is a futile effort that leads to needless violence and expenditure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524308492
168959096,168975097,2018-04-21 11:02:04,">>168963636
r a r e
If you are gonna post here often, you coulld even take up namefagging.
But, since your flag is so rare it is enough to have a persistent identity so anons know who you are (just in the context of 4chan of course).
Please don't start unloading your jokes about Bioluminescent Melanin-enriched Secret Intelligence Governmental Agents.
That aside, we aren't interesting to them, we even declare openly that we are, as they would call it; not ""men of action""(= dudes that will actually go around being violent and threatening public order; we want to increase it).",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308524
168959096,168975167,2018-04-21 11:02:53,">>168964330
>You know vanguardism refers communist tactic right?
You mean:
""A tactic that was used BY communists"".",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308573
168959096,168975306,2018-04-21 11:04:28,">>168964407
You can try namefagging, if everyone does it one can constantly see a area (the safe constraint-dimension of which you decide), making it much easier for anons to find each other, than constantly having to post:
>I am from X and close to Y.
>Are any other anons close to Y or can easily reach Z?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308668
168959096,168975348,2018-04-21 11:04:55,">>168973437
I'll keep an eye out for these threads. I've just recently come out of the black pill and have been going full SIG. Keep these going I am interested but wary",,Anonymous,1521848588572.jpg,XmdOb6mP//ENva1pNFWeAA==,US,,1524308695
168959096,168975399,2018-04-21 11:05:39,">>168964407
Forgot the pastebin link.
Just tell me what you want to be named as (what area you want to reveal) and I'll mark you in.
'Anon 4' is an unassigned gap, so you'd fit perfectly.
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
>https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF
https://pastebin.com/raw/isL2UxCF",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308739
168959096,168975506,2018-04-21 11:06:48,">>168975348
Thanks for trusting anon.
/SIG/ started getting mod'd on /pol/, so we'll be hosting their material so it doesn't get deleted.
And we post the threads every day, so keep an eye out in the catalog.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524308808
168959096,168975539,2018-04-21 11:07:13,">>168975399
That's me.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524308833
168959096,168975582,2018-04-21 11:07:47,">>168967452
The plane was invented by christians.
Osama Bin Laden was using Christian methods, that fucking traitor!
Bye bye, off to ze filte chamber you go, Hans, get zis vermin out of my sight!",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308867
168959096,168975677,2018-04-21 11:08:50,">>168975582
It's the same person you replied to already, and he fucked off a while ago.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524308930
168959096,168975767,2018-04-21 11:09:56,">>168968584
And here's the next step:
Once you have enough lads in your community and you can all put a bit of social pressure (in a frinedly way) onto anyone you hang out with,
you start inviting some of the more outcast bluepilled individuals and also some of the more mainstream ones that are open to some uncnventional company.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524308996
168959096,168975877,2018-04-21 11:11:20,">>168968707
Fucking hell, okay, I'll get you out of the chamber and bite the bait:
""Vanguardism"" is simply a good term to refer to and describe the nature of how ""we"" operate.
And now have fun trying to talk through taht air-tight door, kike-kun.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524309080
168959096,168975923,2018-04-21 11:11:55,">>168975877
See >>168975677",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524309115
168959096,168976042,2018-04-21 11:13:28,">>168970807
What is the swastika to jews
is this anglo to the germans that value their blood
Kek, the banter and angloposting between brit/pol/ and kraut/pol was pretty fun.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),Anglo_Meme_Vs_Aryan_Horriffic_Betrayl_Rotherham_Rapes_Mudshits_Police_Fail_Britians_Police_Nightmare_And_Joke_At_Same_Time.jpg,4PpBsSGYfQv5vAgKF1+aMw==,DE,,1524309208
168959096,168976194,2018-04-21 11:15:21,">>168962766
>be wary of anyone who immediately goes 1488
your nose is showing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524309321
168959096,168976292,2018-04-21 11:16:27,">>168973239
What would you require of me so that you believe I am not some sort of Bioluminescent POC working for the Govt.?
I can deliver much, but I won't dox myself.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524309387
168959096,168976499,2018-04-21 11:18:51,">>168973300
Kek, I love the ambivalency of you ancaps.
Irl I like to pretend to be one and make edgytarian jokes.
One of my accquiantances is more of a cryptocommie/socialist, so I like bantering about helicopters and the market value of bullets or gas etc.
Fun stuff desu.
Old /pol/ will have to step up their game to compete with you guys.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524309531
168959096,168976610,2018-04-21 11:20:00,">>168959096
>>168959124
>>168959141
i dont trust brit flags
for all i know theres a paki being paid to shill behind this flag, promoting such a group that will become another muh ""alt right"" controlled opposition or looking to dox people
if you want to be trusted then prove yourself and your value to your nation: do community work. clean streets. feed homeless. vlog about it and THEN promote your shit. if not gtfo shill/larp somewhere else",,Anonymous,1434790283420.png,elq8be4J+BlWcIGB7JDhGg==,,,1524309600
168959096,168976731,2018-04-21 11:21:36,">>168973528
Oh, one question, how do you make your pictures constantly upload as .png?
Often my images that are saved as .png are uploaded as .jpg, which means
a loss of quality which becomes annoying when the next anon saves an image I posted.
I don't want this to happen.
>format-conservatism",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524309696
168959096,168976755,2018-04-21 11:21:51,">>168976610
>I don't trust brit flags
>said the memeflag
>You might be looking to Dox people
>SHOW ME YOUR FACE!",,1- Gr.Manchester,half a shekel.jpg,qHXR5eNbXMM/mPFUm5CjKg==,GB,,1524309711
168959096,168976838,2018-04-21 11:22:49,">>168976731
>Often my images that are saved as .png are uploaded as .jpg, which means
This has never happened to me, as far as I know.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524309769
168959096,168976974,2018-04-21 11:24:26,">>168976194
YOUR nose is showing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524309866
168959096,168976977,2018-04-21 11:24:29,">>168975049
> being this naive
how new are you, fagot?
LURK MOAR",,Anonymous,1508281000444.jpg,PDKI7xkOnNsE8r4mge2uJA==,,,1524309869
168959096,168976995,2018-04-21 11:24:41,">>168975399
I'll take 4 if you want I post here pretty often.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,,,GB,,1524309881
168959096,168977041,2018-04-21 11:25:18,">>168975049
> HUR DUR DEGENERACY IS THE NATURAL COURSE OF HUMAN HISTORY
lol
stupid fucktard",,Anonymous,rgerg.jpg,NAce367dKOQ/vpxm1s73vw==,,,1524309918
168959096,168977221,2018-04-21 11:27:29,">>168976977
>Prejudice is illogical and what do you mean by degeneracy
>LURK MOAR FAGGOT
Oh wow I sure am more informed, thanks for your .jpg with an uncited quote and an unsourced claim.
>>168977041
Wow, very helpful, you sure convinced me, enjoy your (you)s.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524310049
168959096,168977377,2018-04-21 11:29:07,news on infichan?,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1524310147
168959096,168977424,2018-04-21 11:29:53,">>168977377
It'll be up by thursday.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524310193
168959096,168977546,2018-04-21 11:31:21,">>168976755
>>You might be looking to Dox people
>>SHOW ME YOUR FACE!
i knew you would say this
but the fact is that it is you who has to prove himself, because you are pretending to be the leader. leaders dont hide, you dont point at others, you PROVE yourself. theres nothing to be scared about if you show yourself doing positive things , as you say you will do, the reason is to build trust. as is, brits are untrustable, your shit flag is the most used for shills and diaspora, youre the nest of western kikery, you cant possibly expect to ask an IRL meeting without being laughed at.",,Anonymous,fvfd.jpg,nU0bDn4mI17Wcuja/bW2TA==,,,1524310281
168959096,168977549,2018-04-21 11:31:23,">>168974820
>beady brigad
Kek.
I wish Germans had some sort of constant meme apart from ""Kraut"" to inject cheekily into some of their posts.
But alas, we only inject autism.
> I moved into a city centre for university and witnessed the Weimar levels of degeneracy all around me that I had bought into.
Not going to uni (yet; might go for Physics/Engineering), but post-2015 was enough.
Plus that I held the idea dear that we might come together (as humanity) to create a better human (in my lefty years) and now realized that the nogs probably aren't as interested in that as other peoples.
>I researched the third position after being introduced to fascism by a Russian lad who was the type of man I wanted to be
>>tfw you are only somewhere else politically because you saw some edgy jokes during the 2016 election an media reporting on it and didn't have a father figure, not even from your own father.
>>tfw anime-right is not a meme
But hey, at least I did get my shit together.
After embracing a more right-wing approach I got past my depression and let go of my self-hatred (self-hating lefties is true to it seems, kek).
>I've never been closer to family
Oh man, for me I really realized how infinately valuable family is when I had to go into the psychiatry for medical evaluation and looking for the proper medication.
I really noticed that these people cared for me very much, we got much closer as a unit.
That is actually a red-pilling moment that unlike those above isn't cringy and pathetic.
All things and my history considered, I should probably just be more of a flag-bearer than a leader, but I will see where I am at the end of this year.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524310283
168959096,168977624,2018-04-21 11:32:20,">>168975539
Hehe.
Okay, nice coincidence.
It will become much rarer as anons accumulate in these generals to organize with each other and 
safely find other anons around their areas respectively.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524310340
168959096,168977702,2018-04-21 11:33:13,">>168977546
I'm not pretending to be the leader. I'm making the threads. There is no leader, for reasons talked about in the OP posts. Pay attention.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524310393
168959096,168977807,2018-04-21 11:34:26,">>168975049
>Jews aren't automatically evil
Of race, you could say that. After all, there were some Jews of race in the SS. Of religion however, I would really beg to differ ...
>There's less than a 10% trust rate in modern media now, and you think they're mind controlling people into performing degenerate acts they wouldn't otherwise do?
Education and media. Children are exposed to this. Some grow up to become stupid and brainwashed retards the teachers, TV and other outside influences teaches them to be. They then become a burden on society which contribute to the downfall of society. Slowly, it gets worse and worse. Even if 10% trust rate in the media, the last 10% could make it worse for the rest. This is what I don't want
>The jews can start whatever media company and banks they like
Again, I really do prefer to keep it safe but that's up to you really.
>What do you actually define degeneracy as?
I define degeneracy as acts of both disgusting quality and foolishness, such as lgbt, porn, people who don't try to improve themselves, the uneducated (ones who didn't actually bother to learn, not the mentally retarded) and more like this. For you it might be different. What do you believe degeneracy is? If you don't answer the others parts then at least answer this one",,Anonymous,Oswald Feelsly.jpg,OJBkJPgNmjKbRpHRjKT2eQ==,GB,,1524310466
168959096,168978214,2018-04-21 11:39:16,">>168976042
>the banter and angloposting between brit/pol/ and kraut/pol was pretty fun.
Sometime, with the amount of /brit/posters who seem to be quite serious, it gets hard to tell what is bants and what is not",,Anonymous,1523257322297.png,kIe0l1rKo4Iu84GEPN7gAg==,GB,,1524310756
168959096,168978374,2018-04-21 11:40:59,">>168977546
You are being disingenuous and your attempt to demoralize without making a point or even taking into account what this is is obvious.
Bye bye, piss be upon you.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),filtered.png,8FFmr8MAqp07ztNDUf+IYA==,DE,,1524310859
168959096,168978532,2018-04-21 11:42:50,">>168978214
Frens.
Okay, since there was no other German anon in here that I could ask for approximate location to see if we could communicate closer I am gonna call it a day for now.
See you lads later, I'll periodically bump.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),1493937265633[1].jpg,RL2AQeYogMR61R+QYsK1mA==,DE,,1524310970
168959096,168978583,2018-04-21 11:43:31,">>168977549
>Oh man, for me I really realized how infinately valuable family is when I had to go into the psychiatry for medical evaluation and looking for the proper medication.
I had a similar experience as when I was 14-16, crisis can create a strong foundation for any relationship because it separates shows you who you can rely on.
>All things and my history considered, I should probably just be more of a flag-bearer than a leader, but I will see where I am at the end of this year.
Being a leader is overrated and be sure to remember that your past lead you to the present and will only serve to be that fire that will motivate you to do greater things.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,,,GB,,1524311011
168959096,168978607,2018-04-21 11:43:48,">>168977807
>Of race, you could say that. After all, there were some Jews of race in the SS. Of religion however, I would really beg to differ ...
I haven't done enough research into judaism myself to really have an opinion on that matter.
>Education and media. Children are exposed to this. Some grow up to become stupid and brainwashed retards the teachers, TV and other outside influences teaches them to be. They then become a burden on society which contribute to the downfall of society.
That's what I like about libertarianism. If you're a stupid brainswashed retard, you lack the ability to drag anyone else down as you would be able to in a democratic welfare state. Not to mention, education would be privatized, so education welfare plans would not apply either. No more filling Jamal's head with pro-gov't handout anti-majority propaganda.
>Slowly, it gets worse and worse. Even if 10% trust rate in the media, the last 10% could make it worse for the rest. This is what I don't want
10% is dangerous if that 10% is allowed to manipulate national policy to oppress others, which is a moot point in a libertarian society, as national policy is limited to the NAP.
>Again, I really do prefer to keep it safe but that's up to you really.
If you're worried about any group having too much representation in a field, then represent yourself or pay someone to represent you in that field. Start a bank with a ""no jews allowed"" sign out front, if you want.
cont.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524311028
168959096,168978695,2018-04-21 11:44:42,">>168977221
cant convince a newfagit when he is wrong, just tell him that he is, then hope that he has the intellectual capacity to overcome his mental fagotry one day, thus the saying ""lurkmoar"". not every newfag will understand things quickly, for example your assumptions of whats right or wrong based on the perception that prejudice is illogical.",,Anonymous,1510964437821.jpg,pAeJOsikAMxO1bKIKExxSA==,,,1524311082
168959096,168979257,2018-04-21 11:51:18,">>168978583
Thanks for the kind words.
Gott mit uns!
I added your name to the registry, so other newfags have an overview of who is here and can check if there is anyone in their area there.
Updated ""List Of Anons"":
https://pastebin.com/raw/LKvPfpCQ",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),Deutschland_Antifa_Virgin_Meme_Antifa_Jungfrau_Memetik_Versager.png,iYjSZrVjY0RUluoyJqmp8w==,DE,,1524311478
168959096,168979697,2018-04-21 11:56:18,">>168977807
>I define degeneracy as acts of both disgusting quality and foolishness, such as lgbt, porn, people who don't try to improve themselves, the uneducated (ones who didn't actually bother to learn, not the mentally retarded) and more like this. For you it might be different. What do you believe degeneracy is? If you don't answer the others parts then at least answer this one
I define degeneracy as behavior that directly undermines the principles a society is founded on and/or directly contributes to the collapse of that society. I would like to found my society on the non-aggression principle. With that in mind, things like murder and rape would be degenerate acts, but being gay, masturbating to porn, and letting yourself get fat aren't. See, it's not those things that are inherently degenerate, but what branches off from them.
For example, fat people aren't degenerates, as they could compensate for their fatness in society in one way or another. A fat man who runs a successful business and gives a lot of people jobs isn't a degenerate. It's the fat person who demands special hand outs from tax money to compensate for their fatness that becomes a degenerate. If you eliminate the means by which fat people can abuse welfare systems, fat people cease to be a drain on society, therefor are not undermining nor contributing to the collapse of anything, making fatness in and of itself not inherently degenerate. The same could be said for any of the other things you listed. If you do not have systems in place for these people to take advantage of others, the people lack the capacity to actually degenerate anything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524311778
168959096,168979911,2018-04-21 11:58:42,">>168978695
>I can't make a proper argument, so stick around on the off-chance someone else will do it for me later
Prejudice is illogical because it's impossible to determine the entirety of one's intelligence and moral character from a factor like skin color or ancestry. Explain how I'm wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524311922
168959096,168980177,2018-04-21 12:01:49,">>168978607
>I haven't done enough research into judaism myself to really have an opinion on that matter.
Oh boy. To sum it up, pic related. The most disgusting of people. Also, look up the talmud. You'll see why we hate them.
>If you're a stupid brainswashed retard, you lack the ability to drag anyone else down as you would be able to in a democratic welfare state.
Even then, they teach others to think the same as them, the cycle continues. Really it's not only just the democratic welfare state but that besides, good point.
>10% is dangerous if that 10% is allowed to manipulate national policy to oppress others, which is a moot point in a libertarian society, as national policy is limited to the NAP.
Fair point so long as if others aren't dragged down too.
>Again, I really do prefer to keep it safe but that's up to you really.
Mainly a problem. The jews are massive on usery and trickery to the point where bribes and blackmail are in effect. Just having a 'no jews' bank is not going to cut it.
>>168979697
This is a fair",,Anonymous,Demons.jpg,q1JJShbK22MPrCpUZWeYMg==,GB,,1524312109
168959096,168980464,2018-04-21 12:04:56,">>168978607
I don't have time to go into full detail on the JQ it's such a gigantic topic but if you learn about how they debate you will have taken the first step to building your Jewdar.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,Pilpul.png,Nq9+Q0Su3umOkwy0y4cIxw==,GB,,1524312296
168959096,168980592,2018-04-21 12:06:25,">>168978607
Actually, this is a better description.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,1523993187884.jpg,1XRm26FPUukb+sFfEaiXnA==,GB,,1524312385
168959096,168980989,2018-04-21 12:11:01,">>168980177
>Oh boy. To sum it up, pic related. The most disgusting of people. Also, look up the talmud. You'll see why we hate them.
Oh fucking hell. A scary looking jpg with a bunch of blurry images and arrows cobbled together isn't proof of anything. This is why nobody outside of /pol/ takes you guys seriously. This is the internet equivalent to standing outside with a cardboard sign, yelling nonsense at passersby, and wondering why nobody's listening. I plan on reading the talmud after I'm finished with the bible, so if you have any questionable parts I should look out for while doing so I'd love to hear about them, but this goofy propaganda bullshit with no sense of graphics design isn't convincing anyone of shit.
>Even then, they teach others to think the same as them, the cycle continues. Really it's not only just the democratic welfare state but that besides, good point.
Don't you do this? Don't you try to teach people to think the same way that you do because you consider yourself to be correct? It sounds like they're not evil, just stupid. Good natured, but incompetent.
>Mainly a problem. The jews are massive on usery and trickery to the point where bribes and blackmail are in effect. Just having a 'no jews' bank is not going to cut it.
Again, if there are no systems in place for people to abuse, then no abuse can take place. If there aren't any government officials overseeing banking for them to bribe, there's no actual way for jews to prevent non-jews from gaining a foothold in finance short of violating the NAP which would result in their prosecution.
>This is a fair
I think you accidentally",,Anonymous,1523731817897.png,/R38vGipZQF4ujBVs1JFUA==,,,1524312661
168959096,168981121,2018-04-21 12:12:43,">>168974952
Probably
>>168975097
I already use ""High Priest of Kek"" in Habbenings threads. It's dumb, but I like it. I always get mad gets when I use it. It's dumb but I like it. Kek",,Anonymous,1524069520181.jpg,+oZ62Jx8Lfz8SNAVdrGufQ==,LK,,1524312763
168959096,168981443,2018-04-21 12:16:26,">>168980989
There's a book call Blood Passover. Read that.",,Anonymous,Jewish Ritual Murder.png,sgeQ9ko9wJKnF4gB8nLlIw==,IE,,1524312986
168959096,168981664,2018-04-21 12:19:05,">>168967401
KEK",,Anonymous,,,IN,,1524313145
168959096,168981908,2018-04-21 12:21:44,">>168980464
>>168980592
The jews aren't the only ones that do this, you know. Every asshole argues like this. Strawmen, changing the subject, intentionally being obtuse, etc. are all things you learn how to deal with if you've talked to women for any extended period of time. These are tactics you use when you know you're wrong and defend yourself regardless, and cease to be dangerous when used against a reasonable person.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524313304
168959096,168982049,2018-04-21 12:23:21,">>168980989
Look into the Frankfurt school for a start there is such a large amount of information it is incredibly difficult to condense it into a form that the average person can absorb. You need to do your own research and come to your own conclusions, we are just trying to point you in the right direction to start your own research and to accept that Jews have been hated by the greatest men who have ever lived for a reason. I personally have talked to self hating Jews who explained to me what gets taught to them in their special Saturday schools as kids that teaches them how to treat gentiles and other aspects of the faith it is very difficult for gentiles to learn about. At least two of us here used to be Libertarian, it's not that what you're saying is wrong it's that the traitors in our governments will never allow the system you describe to come into existence.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,jews 1.png,2weXDZ/0fLi9wGBxa6w90A==,GB,,1524313401
168959096,168982210,2018-04-21 12:24:58,">>168982049
muh cultural marxism",,Anonymous,,,,,1524313498
168959096,168982268,2018-04-21 12:25:33,,,Anonymous,Frankfurt School.jpg,eYREF677OVx5hpqTyURKrw==,IE,,1524313533
168959096,168982729,2018-04-21 12:30:32,,,Anonymous,Jews and Europe.png,ZnQ95STtj6mlMRy7LqfoSg==,IE,,1524313832
168959096,168982814,2018-04-21 12:31:23,,,Anonymous,Jewish Expulsions Across History.png,BeIZ/EewBqnJM9ev07E4Og==,IE,,1524313883
168959096,168982837,2018-04-21 12:31:43,">>168982210
You wouldn't be here if we didn't have an idea worthy of consideration.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,,,GB,,1524313903
168959096,168982838,2018-04-21 12:31:44,Done.,,Anonymous,Jewish Over-Representation in the Global Elite.jpg,DtJ2hIDpvqiEiSRiMloCsg==,IE,,1524313904
168959096,168982859,2018-04-21 12:31:57,">>168982049
>At least two of us here used to be Libertarian, it's not that what you're saying is wrong it's that the traitors in our governments will never allow the system you describe to come into existence.
That's the thing, I don't want to change our government to a libertarian one. I want to burn it to the ground and build a new one on top. Those who try to stop me would be violating the NAP, and I would be fully within my rights to throw them into the fire.
Hitler was a smart guy, but he made a lot of critical mistakes that lead to his downfall. If you let a pitbull off it's chain and it bites a kid, who is to blame, you or the pitbull? It's not the population of jews that is the problem, nor is their expulsion the solution. It's the government who lets malevolent people, jewish or not, oppress others that is to blame.
And, in my fancy pants new society, you could buy as much land as people will sell you and kick all of the minorities you don't like off of it, as is your right.",,Anonymous,1523476092154.jpg,Ax3JuQvwYUXkiY06VPjvHA==,,,1524313917
168959096,168983388,2018-04-21 12:37:40,">>168963636
lanka anon, are you still here?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524314260
168959096,168983517,2018-04-21 12:39:01,">>168961242
>>168961262
>>168961286
oh look at all this dubunked trash reading",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524314341
168959096,168983718,2018-04-21 12:41:18,">>168982859
>It's not the population of jews that is the problem, nor is their expulsion the solution. It's the government who lets malevolent people, jewish or not, oppress others that is to blame.
I agree with this statement but my solution is to eradicate democracy while yours is to eradicate the current social order. Can you see the parallel in that we both have the same goal of burning the system to the ground but merely want to build something different? I'm not asking you go full 88 of course but the government you hate so much is filled with traitors who side with either progressive or conservative Zionist ideologies. I'm not saying all Jews have a single goal there is a clear schism between the left and right the same way there is a schism between traitors in our governments. I was more ancap than Libertarian myself and I know that you are an ally not an enemy. One of the best things we can do is challenge each other's beliefs because it only serves to strengthen our ability to defend them.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,1519163366036.png,vxuRPPD9kF8qdIFXXcZwUQ==,GB,,1524314478
168959096,168983760,2018-04-21 12:41:46,">>168981121
Okay, haha.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524314506
168959096,168984035,2018-04-21 12:44:57,">>168982859
This would do nothing to undermine their power as they'd still control academia, media and private entertainment, and if wealthy people decided how many non-whites there were in a country, guess which tribe of people are immensely wealthy through money manipulation? Your ideal state would be poz central.
We need tradition, order and justice, and the precursor to greater liberty must be to direct our people towards a healthy ideal or it will destroy them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524314697
168959096,168984325,2018-04-21 12:47:45,">>168983517
Where are the proofs?
Where are the (((alternative)))?
What about just surfing through literature to build some sort of panorama,
even if some of it is not true (you see, many untrue things come to power, so knowing them to debunk them is good).
Feel free to debunk the books, faggot.
>>168982859
Perhaps it would work, but I believe that human nature will interfere.
The locals will make collectives and collectives violate each other's NAPs.
Are you meme-ing me?
>>168983718
Hmm.
Man, I really see no profit in anarchism.
Simply due to the fact that there are always people that will follow.
And once the followed see this, they will use their power to maximize their profits.
It'd be beautiful to be able to stop humanity in that base state of mutual freedom, but it doesn't work.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524314865
168959096,168984745,2018-04-21 12:52:22,">>168983718
>I agree with this statement but my solution is to eradicate democracy while yours is to eradicate the current social order.
Here's the problem. Hitler failed. He's the poster child for proper national socialism, and yet he made so many mistakes that he committed suicide and got his beloved fatherland shattered and divvied up between his enemies. Big, overreaching government is doomed to fail because it's ultimately being controlled by one person of unverifiable competence. We're watching, in the U.S. and U.K., right now what happens when the government seizes too much control. If the government were suddenly to be on your side, it would be prone to just as much failure.
We've seen this all throughout history. You get one near-perfect leader that brings the country to a previously thought impossible level of prosperity and success, they die, their successor receives just as much power, fucks everything up, country collapses. I'm not saying national socialism won't work, I'm saying that the power competent people would need to be given to make it work will one day be passed to someone else, with no guarantee of further success.
I wish you guys good luck, and I would like it if we could cut the country in half and we both get our side, but I have real reason to believe that you will fail faster than us, which is why I'm on my side and not yours.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524315142
168959096,168984853,2018-04-21 12:53:24,">>168959096
Is this reverse Marxism Leninism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524315204
168959096,168985235,2018-04-21 12:57:26,">>168984035
>This would do nothing to undermine their power as they'd still control academia, media and private entertainment,
These are all part of the free market and are allowed to publish whatever views they like through whatever communication channels the own. If you do not like what a particular school, news channel or film production company is saying, you are more than free not to patronize them.
>and if wealthy people decided how many non-whites there were in a country, guess which tribe of people are immensely wealthy through money manipulation?
Obviously if there were a revolution, we wouldn't continue using the hyper-inflated U.S. dollar. If they would like to purchase some of our new currency, they are free to do so. Maybe bitcoin or something. And, furthermore, they're not deciding who is in the country, they're deciding who is on their property, as they can already do in the U.S. Last I checked, no pro-jew anti-white problems have arisen in relation to this. 
>Your ideal state would be poz central.
Giving someone AIDS without their concent would be a violation of the NAP and would result in prosecution, just like how it already is now and has always been.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524315446
168959096,168985545,2018-04-21 13:00:35,">>168984325
I mean it as in they aren't a threat and they don't serve the enemy. It is only able to thrive in a post-collapse world and I don't believe that accelerationism and balkanisation will bring anything but suffering.",,Anon 4 - Merseyside,,,GB,,1524315635
168959096,168985655,2018-04-21 13:01:46,">>168984325
>Perhaps it would work, but I believe that human nature will interfere.
Capitalism and the free market are part of human nature. I'm a voluntarist, so if a group of kids wanted to form their own commune for whatever reason, it would be fine so long as they weren't forcing anyone else into it.
>The locals will make collectives and collectives violate each other's NAPs.
If you violate my rights in one way or another, I will be fully within my rights to stop you from doing so forcefully. Any collective that forcefully violates the rights of anyone else would be destroyed. I'm not sure what is unclear about this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524315706
168959096,168985733,2018-04-21 13:02:43,">>168984853
You mean a Nationalist Vanguard, as opposed to a communist one? Yeah.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524315763
168959096,168986395,2018-04-21 13:08:08,">>168984325
(((You))) are either stuck in or part of this honeypot.",,Anonymous,Anon2.png,ybepOyfddQu22jzMBvVojQ==,DE,,1524316088
168959096,168986506,2018-04-21 13:09:16,">>168985235
>Jews are permitted to educate the masses, and this won't lead to any problems because mass man is smart enough not to patronize this harmful element of society
>Bitcoin as a stable national currency
We're reaching levels of retard that shouldn't be possible, and as for Hitler failing, at-least he had an army. Guess what happens to countries that defy the international clique?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524316156
168959096,168986551,2018-04-21 13:09:44,">>168986395
It's not a honeypot. Try reading the first 3 posts.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524316184
168959096,168986681,2018-04-21 13:10:58,">>168959096
Anyone in TX?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524316258
168959096,168986870,2018-04-21 13:13:04,">>168986681
We're just under two weeks into this, but we post the threads every day. If you want to stick around and wait for others in your area, just put your general city or county in the name field (nothing too specific) and stick around for more texanons.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524316384
168959096,168986953,2018-04-21 13:13:46,">>168983388
Hi leaf",,Anonymous,1524121644395m.jpg,sYAMOV4bdRb5Wf1KXp8lqA==,LK,,1524316426
168959096,168987063,2018-04-21 13:15:01,">>168986551
I did.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524316501
168959096,168987121,2018-04-21 13:15:35,">>168986395
If this were a honeypot, then a decntralized and mutually isolated splinter-celling would barely be the vehicle to gather suspects.
Besides, 4chan /pol/ a board of peace.
No, literally, the resources for surveillance are much more needed for extremists that will actually do something, like the Pisslamists.
THe goal of this here is to build networks, mutually improve and build support structures so that /ourguys/ are better organized but still in a disparate way.
Now either read the OP and understand the inherently honeypot-unfriendly nature of this movement or fuck off.
Ragepost and rage-inducing picture attached.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),this is how the left wants the countries to look and the german people to value themselves while i personally would prefer being nuked niggers are probably just as effective at destroying everything in the long run as well.png,AFsVswXKOL91dqbk+n5IqA==,DE,,1524316535
168959096,168987174,2018-04-21 13:16:02,">>168986953
do you have kikescord",,Anonymous,albanians.jpg,HkfG/uFnf0i2SuJlgqsDDw==,CA,,1524316562
168959096,168987187,2018-04-21 13:16:12,">>168987063
Care to explain how it's a honeypot, then? Other then a knee-jerk reaction to the idea of meeting other people, that is.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524316572
168959096,168987252,2018-04-21 13:16:54,">>168986506
>Jews shouldn't be allowed to say things because they're jews and that's good enough for me, no further thought required here
>A currency that can't be artificially inflated by the government is a bad thing
>Hitler's complete and utter failure was okay because reasons, it wasn't his incompetence, it was definitely jews again
Milton Friedman and Murray Rothbard are jews that have written dozens of books on pure capitalism that exists without systems in place for your jewish boogeymen to abuse. David Friedman, Milton's son, has been lecturing at universities on the same subject. These people literally wrote the books on how to solve the problem you're dealing with, and educating young people on these matters, and you're saying they should be stopped from doing so because of their ancestry?",,Anonymous,1521847810748.jpg,9fcIDX7ulrxEx8heZiN37A==,,,1524316614
168959096,168987898,2018-04-21 13:23:31,">>168987252
Hm, interesting, here, copied from another thread, but relevant to the paranoia of ""the Jews"" and very relevat to the idea of cronyism:
Because I would be interested in hearing from a non-/pol/ack an answer to this question:
>Could it be that Jews have over-proportional influence due to the minoority status which makes tribalism, nepotism and cronyism easier?
(Because even if Peterson were right with his ""Higher average IQ explanation"", not all worldwive jews are Ashkenszim, and even if they were there would still be more Europeans adn Whites in each percentile than Jews respectively.
>Of course it also all converges with the historical role in usury/banking
So, whaddya say?
I personally don't believe in some sort of conspiracy, but much rather individuals that have gotten to the top and are keepin mutually beneficial conditions alive,
and have a certain cultural-tribalistic preference taht fuses them together, resulting in s kind of self-amplifying cycle. 
So that is why there is a (partially justified) distrust of Jews.
However, I think purging the problems would be pruging Jews and non-Jews alike, the only thing that would be noticeable would be the fact that one will be fighting primarily Jews, but that is not due to them being Jews, but their installment and self-proliferation in the high ranks, as any tribalist anglo groups would likely have done as well.
Yeah, that's approximately the question.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524317011
168959096,168987902,2018-04-21 13:23:33,">>168987121
Ragepost? Nah. You wan't anons to meet, that's the issue. Who guarantees you're not an antifaggot? You deleted the post I capped, tell me why?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524317013
168959096,168988337,2018-04-21 13:28:09,">>168987252
Having no system that can be abused also means having no systems that can prevent abuse. Capitalism is a tool. Nothing more, nothing less. You cannot focus your entire government around a single tool.
And Hitler didn't fail, Nazi Germany took 6 years and 3 empires to take it down.
If you favour the Libertarian side of economics, that's fine. but this is a Nationalist Vanguard. If you're not prepared to keep economic policy as a secondary for the protection of your land and people, then try Liberalistism.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524317289
168959096,168988429,2018-04-21 13:29:02,">>168987902
>you want anons to meet, that's the issue
So it is just a knee-jerk reaction to meeting people in real life, then.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524317342
168959096,168988442,2018-04-21 13:29:08,">>168959096
Damn I need something like this in my country!",,Captain,,,BR,,1524317348
168959096,168988541,2018-04-21 13:30:09,">>168987174
No but I got Kik. goatlord91",,Anonymous,1524073962934.jpg,5oniqYQ3QMYhVguOWL6k9g==,LK,,1524317409
168959096,168988660,2018-04-21 13:31:27,">>168988442
Be the change, anon. We post the threads every day (with the possible exception of Sundays) so stick around & tell Brazillians on other threads where to go!",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524317487
168959096,168988696,2018-04-21 13:31:45,">>168988541
get discord some of us are trying to make a non reddit lankan server",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524317505
168959096,168988812,2018-04-21 13:32:48,">>168988429
Who guarantees this is not an antifaggit honeypot? Tell me, I'm interested.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524317568
168959096,168988886,2018-04-21 13:33:31,">>168988696
Alright. Sec",,Anonymous,,,LK,,1524317611
168959096,168988908,2018-04-21 13:33:44,">>168988812
nothing, you're right
people can self improve and learn values without meeting irl",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524317624
168959096,168988917,2018-04-21 13:33:51,">>168988696
Discord is a honeypot, anon. Try Mumble or VK.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524317631
168959096,168988967,2018-04-21 13:34:25,">>168988917
i wish
everyone else uses this shitty service
idk how to convince them to get off it",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524317665
168959096,168989113,2018-04-21 13:35:49,">>168987902
>You deleted the post I capped, tell me why?
Wrong thread.
Besides, seeing that should have made you see I was literally some sperg talking about pushups in that post.
>>168987902
> Nah. You wan't anons to meet, that's the issue. Who guarantees you're not an antifaggot?
This really is an issue.
Because ""security through obscurity"" (i.e.: antifags won't spend their time trying to ""get"" anons here) is not security.
However, consider this:
the longer you wait before meeting and the more you discuss, for example books, politics and ideology, the less likely it is that you are talking to an antifaggot.
You have to consider how important you are:
>You are the leader of a big right-wing moevemnt
Yep, you should be weary.
>You are a random anon that wants to meet another /pol/ack
Yeah, I see this going somewhere.
Also, the fact alone that I expend all these lines talking to you lower the probability of me being an antifaggot, as engaging in discussion like this and with effort is usually not an efficient way to interrupt.
The funny thing is, it is a very real probability that you are just a concern-shill.
But I am an honest man, what would I have to do for you to believe I am not an antifag?
I mean, we could exchange a burner email here and get talking to each other.
Then we could start verifying things:
>where are you from
>(usually not availiable to Germans; §86a) show me your collection of NS-memorabilia, Timestamped
>show me your meme folder with a timestamp
(most antifags aren't autistic enough for something like this, now, it could be accquired, but you could make the condition to have the other anon give a timestamped image within... 2 minutes or else you assume antifaggotry)
>give me a verification of you place of residence (timestamped landmark/close locatin with directions to the location on google maps)
Get creative!
If you actually care for anything you believe in, then being deterred by such a avoidable and minimizeable risk is no biggie.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524317749
168959096,168989124,2018-04-21 13:35:57,">>168988908
I have a bunch of brothers irl I can count on no matter what. If you really want or need to meet likeminded people just join the IB, JA or AfD. No need for a seperate, controlled movement.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524317757
168959096,168989298,2018-04-21 13:37:48,">>168988812
There is no gurantee that groups won't be infiltrated at some point, which is why the groups are structured to make that a non-issue.
As you should know, since you're claiming to have read the OP.
>>168988908
They can, but it's more difficult. As is making change in your community & country when you don't know you can count on people to stand behind you.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524317868
168959096,168989572,2018-04-21 13:40:39,">>168989113
See >>168989124
We're already pretty active, anon. Deleting the post was very supicious like you have something to hide. Your connection to this thread maybe? Anonymity is what makes this place great and it should continue like this.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524318039
168959096,168989648,2018-04-21 13:41:27,">>168989113
If he genuinely thinks you're a shill organising a honeypot, asking him to tell you where he is & send pics of items i'm assuming re illegal in Germany probably isn't going to help.
>>168989124
>Thinks that politics isn't controlled
>Thinks a movement et up specifically to have no central control is controlled",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524318087
168959096,168989702,2018-04-21 13:42:00,">>168988696
Send me the invite link, leaf
(Just downloaded, not sure how this works lel)",,Anonymous,,,LK,,1524318120
168959096,168989754,2018-04-21 13:42:33,">>168989124
>If you really want or need to meet likeminded people just join the IB, JA or AfD. No need for a seperate, controlled movement.
This can be part of the entire thing.
Of course that would be part of what we are espousing here, but also the convincing of other people that were previously not part of the movement.
>>168988908
Yes, but dipping into the high volume of anons that are on our side on here and giving them what they need to help themselves, motivating them and helping them along, even if it is just through posts, is better than just shitposting and worrying about an infinitesimal likelihoood of some antifaggot literally spending ages to get to the point where they actually meet irl.
The funny thing is, if you think consistenly and logically, and not irationally and fearfully likethe muh-honeypot shills, then you will realize that it is a double-edged sword for the hypothetical antifaggot:
If you aren't stupid enough to not demand a verified and timestamped counter on each level of de-anonymization, then if the other anon knows who you are, then so do you.
Especially if all exchanges of information verification are done with a very tight timeframe in mind
and the anon is dropped when he is not able to comply.
And all that aside, have you ever seen so much antifaggotry here that would make this even remotely likely?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524318153
168959096,168989878,2018-04-21 13:43:52,">>168988696
>>168989702
My username is kekschosen",,Anonymous,,,LK,,1524318232
168959096,168989937,2018-04-21 13:44:23,">>168987898
>Could it be that Jews have over-proportional influence due to the minoority status which makes tribalism, nepotism and cronyism easier?
People of a certain demographic are biased favorable towards that same demographic. Jews tend to procreate with other jews, so traits prevalent among the demographic at the beginning of this trend will propagate throughout the demographic. Jews tend to have higher IQs for the same reason they're significantly more prone to taysachs disease. This higher average IQ means a disproportionately high portion of the jewish population will be found in white collar positions. 
All other qualifications being the same, people will hire potential employees that share some demographic with them. If the employer is white, Joe will be prioritized before Manuel. The same goes for jews. Of course, this can and often is taken too far, as it was in early 20th century Germany, and as it may be in early 21st century America. Jews are often better suited to white collar positions, so many jews enter them, then these jews try to help other jews into these same positions.
White people, however, often see jews as just a religious group and not an ethnic one. They seem to just be more whites. So, jews get preferential treatment over whites from other jews for being jews, and preferential treatment over racial minorities from whites for appearing white. This compounds over time and you end up with a high concentration of jewish people in certain fields. 
Some jews, I'm certain, are actively trying at this jewish world domination through currency control business, but many are just trying to help out those they share characteristics with when the opportunity arises, and most are just unconsciously biased. That's my belief, in any case. Not sure if I answered your question.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524318263
168959096,168990029,2018-04-21 13:45:30,">>168989878
>kekschosen
theres a four digit code after that, can you tell me it
>>168989754
id say a period of online interaction that is reasonably long before meeting irl is neccesary atleast to weed out any low effort dox attempts",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524318330
168959096,168990081,2018-04-21 13:46:00,">>168989648
You're putting words in my mouth, anon. The choices I mentioned are the best right now. Talking bout control, you and OP are doing what exactly in this ""general""?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524318360
168959096,168990159,2018-04-21 13:46:40,">>168990029
#2986",,Anonymous,,,LK,,1524318400
168959096,168990220,2018-04-21 13:47:19,">>168989648
No, what I wanted of him is for him to tell me what I have to give him in order for him to believe I am legit.
That is all.
The other things I pointed to were things that anons could do to verify each other's identity in the multi-leveled process.
And pointing out how resource-ineffective it would be even for neet-antifaggots to obstruct anything with such a tactic, not even speaking of the degree of
importance-to-effort dispartiy such a ""honeypot-maintenance"" would pose for CIAniggers.
That aside, CIAniggers are notoriously bad at memeing, and while I may have assburgers, I can still memespeak.
Wait, want me to proove I have assburgers, I am not really in the mood and I have to help my family with food any moment now, but I could theoretically get the timestamped psychometrics of me.
Would a CIAnigger or Antifaggot go through the effort of creating an authentic HAWK-IV and Wechsler test result document only to convince some anon online?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524318439
168959096,168990259,2018-04-21 13:47:42,">>168989937
Confractulations, you just made the argument for Nationalism.
Even assuming the ""Jews have a higher IQ"" thing is true based on the evidence we have, that means that anyone from another ethnic background who wants to succedd has to do so in an environment where his demographic is the majority, in a system that is not open to letting positions to foreigners where Nationals can do the same job.
Now, as i said before, if you're not willing to put economics secondary for the sake of your nation, go join the Liberalists, because this isn't for you.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524318462
168959096,168990619,2018-04-21 13:51:35,">>168990081
I am the OP, and at the moment i'm talking to people in the thread about their concerns. Your point being?
If you think that those are your best option, fine. Don't participate, it's that simple. But some people would prefer the benefit of a forum that worries less about it's finances, public perception and support.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524318695
168959096,168990656,2018-04-21 13:51:58,">>168988337
>Having no system that can be abused also means having no systems that can prevent abuse.
That sounds like communism. What abuse are you referring to requires government systems put in place to stop?
>Capitalism is a tool. Nothing more, nothing less.
No, it's an economic doctrine.
>You cannot focus your entire government around a single tool.
I'm not. 
>And Hitler didn't fail, Nazi Germany took 6 years and 3 empires to take it down.
Hitler did fail. He managed to collapse his country in just 6 years by attacking 3 empires or their allies simultaneously. If it took three people to murder you instead of one, you're just as dead.
>If you favour the Libertarian side of economics, that's fine. but this is a Nationalist Vanguard.
Like I said earlier, if you want to purchase a plot of land and have that spot be your perfect nationalist utopia you go right ahead. But national socialism has all of the same big government problems that lead to the formation of a vanguard in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524318718
168959096,168990927,2018-04-21 13:54:58,">>168990619
I'm worried about safety. Would you honestly meet with another bong who posts here? You might end up 15 years in jail like that dude got for putting bacon in front of a mosque. I mean you literally get punished for owning fucking butter knives.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524318898
168959096,168991225,2018-04-21 13:58:11,">>168990656
>I don't think corporations should be allowed to function without a legal system with some form of punishment system & incentives in place to make sure everyone is playing by the same rules, otherwise order will be in the hands of whoever can accumulate the most wealth, regardless of any other traits they may have as a leader.
>THAT SOUNDS LIKE COMMUNISM
Libertarians, ladies and gentlemen.
>National socialism has all the same big government problems
You mean uncontrolled mass immigration, an encouragement of control-by-consumerism and a debt twice the size of the economy?
Good luck with the Liberalists, i'm filtering your ID.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524319091
168959096,168991375,2018-04-21 13:59:41,">>168990259
>that means that anyone from another ethnic background who wants to succedd has to do so in an environment where his demographic is the majority
No. Probable preferential treatment for one group does not equal exclusion for all other groups. Just because you can't get a job somewhere doesn't mean it's the jews fault and you need to go crying to big daddy government to make them employ you. That's called equal opportunity legislation and we've seen how dangerous and unreliable it is. They're allowed to hire you or not for whatever reasons they want, just like nobody is forcing you to hire Jayquanda or Schlomo. Quit pretending these poorly designed liberal policies will suddenly work if the person enforcing them claims to be on your side.
>Now, as i said before, if you're not willing to put economics secondary for the sake of your nation, go join the Liberalists, because this isn't for you.
There's a reason Hong Kong is rich as fuck and India has designated shitting streets. Economic central planning doesn't fucking work.",,Anonymous,1521848604998.gif,oZy7JDyuw77c10J9EH5Lzw==,,,1524319181
168959096,168991571,2018-04-21 14:01:38,">>168990927
Yes, i would. Because i find the risk minimal enough that i'm willing to take it. I'm namefagging with the area i live in, ffs.
And no, we don't. That's a meme. You can still buy knives at any old shop, you don't get punished just for owning them. If you leave them laying around outside, then the police might pick them up and take a picture of them to convince little old ladies they're doing something so they don't need to be scared. That's about it.
But other then that little piece of disinfo, yes, the situation in the UK is pretty bad.
*which is exactly why something like this needs to happen.*",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524319298
168959096,168991572,2018-04-21 14:01:37,">>168989937
>This higher average IQ
Goddamnit, I already listened to Peterson Goyberg on that.
Even if every single jew were ashkenazim it doesn't account for it.
Also, if the higher IQ means taysachs disease increses in prevalency, there should be studies pointing to this in subsets of white/European populations as well, right?
>So, jews get preferential treatment over whites from other jews for being jews, and preferential treatment over racial minorities from whites for appearing white
Okay, that is something I considered already too.
I am really not getting anywhere though, as I still don't know what can be done about the specifically Jewsih interests that arise from this other than attacking the Jews in those fields.
>
Some jews, I'm certain, are actively trying at this jewish world domination through currency control business, but many are just trying to help out those they share characteristics with when the opportunity arises, and most are just unconsciously biased.
I basically agree with you on most every part.
One could try to nit-pick on things like Jewish/Ashkenazim IQ and even the notion of the Ashkenazim IQ being actually representative.
They used to do mass IQ-tests without some sort of PISA proxy inbetween, and in 1950s, so shortly before the turkroachenrichment, it was 106.
And there were still quite some remnants of the hunger.
What do we do about this?
Simply attack the power structures and then hit anyone on the fingers that tries to stop it?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524319297
168959096,168991922,2018-04-21 14:05:23,">>168991571
I hope you're doing the right thing, bong... Wishing you the best and good luck. Stay safe.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524319523
168959096,168991984,2018-04-21 14:05:59,">>168990029
>id say a period of online interaction that is reasonably long before meeting irl is neccesary atleast to weed out any low effort dox attempts
Could have written it very short just like that.
Kek, I have to get better at short expression and lowering detail to sensible levels.
>>168991375
>No. Probable preferential treatment for one group does not equal exclusion for all other groups. Just because you can't get a job somewhere doesn't mean it's the jews fault and you need to go crying to big daddy government to make them employ you. That's called equal opportunity legislation and we've seen how dangerous and unreliable it is. They're allowed to hire you or not for whatever reasons they want, just like nobody is forcing you to hire Jayquanda or Schlomo. Quit pretending these poorly designed liberal policies will suddenly work if the person enforcing them claims to be on your side.
I actually agree to this desu, but I do see that there is a need for at the very least awareness for what amounts to the effects of human biology on the probability to have more advanced humans tomorrow.
Racial awareness/genetic awareness.
Heck, one could base it on traits like ""what's the IQ"" irrespective of race, but one would still see the regression to racial means.
And thus you have a bit of nationalism that is inevitable.
Gtg, will read replies later, thanks for your answers, anon!
:)",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524319559
168959096,168992018,2018-04-21 14:06:23,">>168991922
You too. And thanks for being reasonable.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524319583
168959096,168992077,2018-04-21 14:07:06,">>168991225
>I don't think corporations should be allowed to function without a legal system with some form of punishment system & incentives in place to make sure everyone is playing by the same rules, otherwise order will be in the hands of whoever can accumulate the most wealth,
First of all, you didn't say this earlier. You just threw the term ""abuse"" around with no actual definition. Now that you've defined it, it still makes no sense. So, what, one group is going to somehow magically accumulate all the power somehow? In some way or another, a corporation is going to get all of the money and therefor rule everything? How? Has this literally ever happened? I'm seriously asking. Explain to me, specifically, how a monopoly can actually be formed without government intervention. What is stopping me from going up against a watch-making monopoly by building watches in my garage if I so chose? See, if you bothered to learn fuck all about economics, you would know that all of the corporations that are even close to forming monopolies today are due to the government putting anti-competition legislation in place because of how easy they are to topple over. 
>regardless of any other traits they may have as a leader.
HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT FROM YOUR IDEAL GOVERNMENT THEN? You're saying it's bad if someone comes to power despite poor qualifications, and I'm trying to tell you that's exactly what killed Nazi Germany so quickly. 
>You mean uncontrolled mass immigration, an encouragement of control-by-consumerism and a debt twice the size of the economy?
No, government intervention in the market, pointless wars, criminalizing harmless thing, mass overspending, etc.
>Good luck with the Liberalists, i'm filtering your ID.
You can't argue, so you ignore me? You're sounding more and more like a communist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524319626
168959096,168992275,2018-04-21 14:09:15,">>168992018
>thanks for being reasonable.
Hehe, rare around here.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524319755
168959096,168992332,2018-04-21 14:09:53,"Who wants to meet in Union Square, NY?",,Team Fuck Yourself,,,US,,1524319793
168959096,168992604,2018-04-21 14:12:51,">>168991572
>Also, if the higher IQ means taysachs disease increses in prevalency, there should be studies pointing to this in subsets of white/European populations as well, right?
Bro work on your English. Higher IQ doesn't lead to taysachs. Jews fuck other jews with high IQs to have jew kids with high IQs. A lot of jews are genetically prone to taysachs, so when they fuck eachother, they make more kids that are genetically prone to taysachs. That's what happens when you have interbreeding within one small community over a long period of time. Their genetic traits, good and bad, compound and perpetuate over time.
>I am really not getting anywhere though, as I still don't know what can be done about the specifically Jewsih interests that arise from this other than attacking the Jews in those fields.
>What do we do about this? Simply attack the power structures and then hit anyone on the fingers that tries to stop it?
In a libertarian society, if you didn't like a business or it's staff, there would be nothing in your way of competing with them. If the non-jew businesses are better for society than the jew businesses, there would be nothing to stop the jew businesses from failing or being absorbed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524319971
168959096,168993120,2018-04-21 14:17:59,">>168992077
>Everything i don't like is Communism- the ideology
Your entire argment revolves around the upholding of the NAP. That large corporations will just allow themselves to go out of business because they can't use their weath to stifle competition; that the mass of people can be trusted to be reasonable actors in the market and not just stick with the most convenient option, even if it fucks them over in the long run.
>HOW IS THIS ANY DIFFERENT FROM YOUR IDEAL GOVERNMENT, THEN?
Becuase my system has an enforced legal code. Yours is bribes as a matter of legality.
>You're sounding more and more like a communist.
says the utopian idealist who beleives people can function harmoniously and problems will resolve themselves through shared values and fairy dust, and can't be proved wrong because the REAL version of his system has never been tried.
THAT's why i'm filtering you. You're a reverse-communist, and arging with you just derails the thread.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524320279
168959096,168993268,2018-04-21 14:19:22,">>168991984
>I actually agree to this desu, but I do see that there is a need for at the very least awareness for what amounts to the effects of human biology on the probability to have more advanced humans tomorrow.
>Racial awareness/genetic awareness.
>Heck, one could base it on traits like ""what's the IQ"" irrespective of race, but one would still see the regression to racial means.
>And thus you have a bit of nationalism that is inevitable.
Racial and ethnic backgrounds are only taken into account during the hiring process when everything else is the same. A jewish person isn't getting picked because they're jewish, it's because they're jewish AND have as good if not better qualifications as other applicants. No successful business excludes people that will make them money because of something irrelevant like ancestry.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524320362
168959096,168994432,2018-04-21 14:30:06,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524321006
168959096,168994534,2018-04-21 14:30:58,">>168993120
>That large corporations will just allow themselves to go out of business because they can't use their weath to stifle competition
Explain to me how one corporation can spend money to stop other corporations from making money when there's no government interference.
>that the mass of people can be trusted to be reasonable actors in the market and not just stick with the most convenient option, even if it fucks them over in the long run.
What the fuck does this even mean? If you want people to patronize your business, make it one people will want to patronize. What does ""even if it fucks them over in the long run"" mean? 
>Becuase my system has an enforced legal code. Yours is bribes as a matter of legality.
The legal code determined by the government will restrain the government? Are you retarded? Again, the legal code didn't save Nazi Germany from incompetent leaders. The U.S. constitution barely holds back it's legislators. 
>says the utopian idealist who beleives people can function harmoniously and problems will resolve themselves through shared values and fairy dust
Not shared values and fairy dust, guns. If you violate the NAP against me, I point guns at you. That's how it works. You seem to have an extremely fundamental misunderstanding of libertarianism.
>and can't be proved wrong because the REAL version of his system has never been tried.
There's a reason I used Hong Kong as an example earlier. There's next to no business regulation there, and it is monstrously wealthy. There's a reason businesses from all over the world move headquarters there as soon as they can afford to. My system works today, your system failed years ago. 
>You're a reverse-communist, and arging with you just derails the thread.
You're not arguing with me. You're making strawman arguments based on your own fundamental misunderstandings of libertarianism and basic economics, and ignoring everything I prove you wrong on. You argue like this >>168980464 and this >>168980592",,Anonymous,,,,,1524321058
168959096,168995418,2018-04-21 14:39:16,">>168994534
You mean i'm stating basic facts about human nature that are obvious to everyone who hasn't delved deep enough into the sacred texts to ignore them. Cool.
""Explain to me how one corporation can stop another corporation from making money!""
Pay attention, kids. This is your brain on Libertarian.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524321556
168959096,168995658,2018-04-21 14:42:09,">>168994534
>There's a reason i used Hong Kong as an example earlier
Yeah, GDP.
Not personal sovereignty, not standard of life, not even gun ownership levels- GDP.
And even then, you had to use the example of a protectorate of a large military power.
You want an example of a good Capitalist economy, just go a thousand or so miles south & you'll hit Singapore. But they have police & taxes & shit, so i guess that doesn't count.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524321729
168959096,168995678,2018-04-21 14:42:21,>>168982210,,Anonymous,1524221949682.jpg,f026msmvk8DNGZtQQd303w==,NL,,1524321741
168959096,168996368,2018-04-21 14:49:59,Any chance of this movement reaching leafland? I may know a few gents willing to partake in a movement like this.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524322199
168959096,168996437,2018-04-21 14:50:45,">>168996368
Of course! If you already know them IRL, you'd be the first group.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524322245
168959096,168996573,2018-04-21 14:52:12,">>168995418
>You mean i'm stating basic facts about human nature that are obvious to everyone who hasn't delved deep enough into the sacred texts to ignore them. Cool.
Where? Specifically link me to where you said these things and how they are a sound argument.
>Pay attention, kids. This is your brain on Libertarian.
I keep asking you to explain to me how a monopoly can be formed without government intervention, and you just keep saying that it can happen while mocking me. I'm still waiting for an explanation. If you haven't got one, you can just concede on that point.
>Yeah, GDP. Not personal sovereignty, not standard of life, not even gun ownership levels- GDP.
We're talking about the economy, aren't we? Hong Kong is an example of how an economy can function really well with little to no government intervention, so I'm not sure how gun ownership levels or personal sovereignty (Hong Kong ranked 2nd in personal freedoms globally according to the CATO institute's human freedom index) are relevant. 
>You want an example of a good Capitalist economy, just go a thousand or so miles south & you'll hit Singapore.
Weren't you just in favor of national socialism and centrally planned economics? What does Singapore's capitalism and it's relation to ""police & taxes & shit"" have to do with anything?
And weren't you filtering me? You keep responding.",,Anonymous,1a2d02b33076499f9cb831808d47ae409e13ef7059b0c82c09b6a5355912ca67.jpg,PrjaAHRJwIkheyZuUcDw9A==,,,1524322332
168959096,168996764,2018-04-21 14:54:13,">>168974989
A bridge is a single item. It is useful while it works, but it can fail.
People are numerous. If everyone helps each other, a significant majority of them would have to be removed in some way for failure to occur. Instead of three people on that image, picture 3,000 or 3,000,000.
That is true society: reliance on each other, not on things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524322453
168959096,168997787,2018-04-21 15:04:07,>>168959096,,Anonymous,1489451595373.gif,Tfn14llWKIREPR79qrc1kw==,GB,,1524323047
168959096,168998409,2018-04-21 15:10:26,">>168996573
>Specifically link me to where you said those things...
And then, just to mke sure your ass is still covered from being wrong...
>...And how they are a sound argument.
because god knows you've been so open to them.
>I keep asking you to explain how a monopoly can be formed without government intervention
And you're treating that like a victory, that you can't see how a system designed to aquire money would favour those with the most and somehow that's my fault.
>Hong Kong is an example of how an economy can function really well
yeah, an ECONOMY. Everything else isn't relevant. So long as the ECONOMY is fine, the people can live sixteen stories up, work the longest hours of any city in the world and become a tourist attraction for the mainland that allows them such priviledge.
But the economys great, right?
>Weren't you in favour of national socialism and centrally planned economics?
Yes. You know what my ideal model would be? Singapore. And thank you for revealing your ignorance on the subject.
>Aren't you filtering me?
Was. It's just too entertaining seeing what a libertarian considers intellectual. ""I have constructed this idea that Corporations with more money then most countries would cease to be so powerful if those governments didn't exist because you could set up your own shop and there's nothing they could do about it. If you can't explain why that's bullshit in a way i'm satisfied with, that makes you the idiot. If you do think of something I have no answer for, i'll remind you that other systems have problems and therefore mine don't exist. Also, my example of a Utopia is Hong Kong, a City of London on steroids that's backed up the military of the world's largest planned economy.""",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524323426
168959096,168998808,2018-04-21 15:14:26,">>168996573
>how monopoly can be formed without government intervention?
You really can't come up with just maybe a single way this could happen?",,Anonymous,1503556333027.jpg,C00Cmm/kQp4ra17SFq5Dxw==,FI,,1524323666
168959096,168999312,2018-04-21 15:19:32,">>168998409
>And then, just to mke sure your ass is still covered from being wrong...
So you're refusing to point to where you said these things you've claimed to have said despite also claiming they're in this very thread?
>because god knows you've been so open to them.
So you refuse to explain how they're a sound argument? If they were, it would be pretty easy to do so.
>And you're treating that like a victory, that you can't see how a system designed to aquire money would favour those with the most and somehow that's my fault.
I'm still waiting for a specific explanation. No, meaningless platitudes like ""a system designed to acquire money would favor those with the most"" is not a specific explanation. If you're certain this phenomenon exists, you can walk me through the steps that occur that lead to it's existence. Please do so.
>yeah, an ECONOMY. Everything else isn't relevant.
If we were having a discussion on gravity, your opinion on global warming would be irrelevant. If we're having a discussion on economics, issues not related to economics would be irrelevant.
>So long as the ECONOMY is fine, the people can live sixteen stories up, work the longest hours of any city in the world and become a tourist attraction for the mainland that allows them such priviledge.
But the economys great, right?
The economy is great.
>Yes. You know what my ideal model would be? Singapore. And thank you for revealing your ignorance on the subject.
So Singapore is a capitalist society a few posts ago, but now it's a centrally planned economy? Which one?
>It's just too entertaining seeing what a libertarian considers intellectual. 
I keep asking you to explain the specifics of how what you say will happen will happen, and you keep strawmanning and mocking me. Do you know, specifically, how a company can form and maintain a monopoly on it's own or do you not?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524323972
168959096,168999863,2018-04-21 15:24:44,">>168992604
>If the non-jew businesses are better for society than the jew businesses, there would be nothing to stop the jew businesses from failing or being absorbed.
Okay, and what happens when one group of buisness forms their cartels and prevents others from having a reasonable chance to compete?
I mean, what really is in stopping anyone, in your ideal libertarian society, from simply having non-compete treaties with each other's buisness and thus leveraging others out of the system through strategic product releases, planned price elevations and lowerings and all that beautiful stuff?
And what do you do when it's a cartel that has also formed based on cultural and ethnic cronyism within part of (((certain demographics)))?
I mean, they got where they stand by virtue of banking, and it was their buisness, no one was forcing anybody to use their banks.
Now they had gained power through that, and this power may have lost some of its concentration, but much more has been gained by expanding fields
in other areas of civilization and technology.
>gets fucked
>at least it's not the state.gif
>prevelency
Yeah, sorry, prevalence; a typo on my side.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524324284
168959096,169000042,2018-04-21 15:26:08,">>168998808
Let me use an analogy here. The danger in a monopoly is a business does not need to concern itself with competition and can engage in any anti-consumer practices they wish without fear of losing costumers to other businesses. This is like a person in a race walking as slowly as they wish because they have no fear of other competitors overtaking them and reaching the finish line first, when it's possible for anyone at any time to join in the race. The slower that person walks, the slower a new competitor needs to run in order to catch up.
It's the same in business. If there's only one company within a particular market, the less a new company has to compete with when starting up. Not to mention, any business that utilizes the anti-consumer practices people are afraid of monopolies for will lose business rapidly to a new competitor. Imagine, for a moment, what internet service providers would look like in the U.S. without EPA regulations not allowing new companies to install the necessary infrastructure to compete. The need for net neutrality would disappear overnight.
Monopolies try to knock out competitors, but every competitor they knock out just makes it easier for newcomers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524324368
168959096,169000241,2018-04-21 15:28:01,">>168959096
Ahh so that's how protoman came to exist. Protoman IS the vanguard.",,Anonymous,PROTOMAN.jpg,FN2LQGsvuaBQD7jGXNWxRg==,US,,1524324481
168959096,169000420,2018-04-21 15:29:42,">>168999312
>So you're refusing to point to where you said those things
Nigger, you RESPONDED to those things. Anything else is an argument, this is just sad that you're trying to die on this hill.
>So you refuse to explain how they're a sound argument??
They are sound arguments, that you won't acknowledge because you've constructed this world in which corporations do bad because the government tells them too.
>meaningless platitudes like ""a system designed to aquire money would favour those with the most""
Exhibit A, right there. Either i hold your hand through the logic of that statement, or you refuse to acknowledge it's true? That's weak and you know it.
>If we were having a discussion on gravity, your opinion on global warming would be irrelevant
We're having a discussion about governmental systems, not economics. You assumed that because You've constructed yours entirely around the health of the economy.
>The economy is great.
And your answer to the other concerns is...
>So singapore is a capitalist economy a few posts ago, but now it's a centrally planned one? Which is it?
Wow, you really don't know anything about singapore, do you?
>Do you know, specifically, how a company can form and maintain a monopoly on it's own or do you not?
That's your problem, retard, most people don't need it explained to them.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524324582
168959096,169000762,2018-04-21 15:32:47,">>169000042
Yes, i'm sure Disney is positively shitting bricks over that new up-and-comer pixar...",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524324767
168959096,169000978,2018-04-21 15:34:31,">>168999863
>Okay, and what happens when one group of buisness forms their cartels and prevents others from having a reasonable chance to compete?
How would they do that? How would a group of businesses actually forcefully stop a new competitor without legislation? It's not viable without government intervention, which is why we don't have rampant cartels in the private sector where government hasn't stuck it's nose in. 
>I mean, what really is in stopping anyone, in your ideal libertarian society, from simply having non-compete treaties with each other's buisness and thus leveraging others out of the system through strategic product releases, planned price elevations and lowerings and all that beautiful stuff?
A group of companies is functionally one company. If all businesses agree to act in eachother's best interest, that is no different from one parent company owning multiple companies, practically speaking. No cartel of companies is going to be able to sustain producing at a loss for long enough to drive every single competitor out of business, and even if they did, more competitors would pop up as soon as they stopped or went bankrupt.
>And what do you do when it's a cartel that has also formed based on cultural and ethnic cronyism within part of (((certain demographics)))?
Wait for it to die like any other cartel not being forcefully propped up by a governing body.
>I mean, they got where they stand by virtue of banking, and it was their buisness, no one was forcing anybody to use their banks.
In the U.S. the banks are closely tied with the federal government and their money printing operation, so it wasn't a proper meritocracy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524324871
168959096,169000991,2018-04-21 15:34:38,">>168993268
>it's because they're jewish AND have as good if not better qualifications as other applicants.
JewishRacismAtThatRandomCollege.png
And if the way that things used to work in Apartheid is any indication;
then I don't think the Jews will adhere to your idea of a meritocracy, or even a fair way for everyone to at least get to a point where they can demonstrate what they can do.
No successful business excludes people that will make them money because of something irrelevant like ancestry.
If the pool is large enough but small enough still in relation to the outgroup this is/could very well be possible.
Also, you forget to mention that this ethnic preference, while perhaps not directly ""profitable"" is a good way to make sure you can set up a nice niche of cronyism.
And then the partakers in this cronyism are not optimal, but that will not directly imply that they will be inferior to other systems.
In fact, the cronyists could very well just use their influence to bring others to the knees in form of:
>diffamation
>blocking new contracts for their enemies with third parties that they are also related to by threatening to pull out completely 
(of course this only works once they have an appropriate part of the income-generation for the buisness they are threatening,
so that it may crash and burn if they don't comply due to not being able to adjust quickly enough to the new, lowered demand)
TL;DR, a bunch of faggots in an endless match of FFA team up and simply go spawn-camping,
because unlike in Halo, here in reality the emerging points for new competitors are similar and the
ability for ingenuity to be implemented by its originators has a threshold that cronyists can surpass.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524324878
168959096,169001163,2018-04-21 15:36:20,">>168995418
>""Explain to me how one corporation can stop another corporation from making money!""
>Pay attention, kids. This is your brain on Libertarian.
Just take the time to formulate the reasons for why cronyists could defeat an unorganised group of free buisnesses,
while I like the anti-drug-evangelical reference, it doesn't help",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524324980
168959096,169001870,2018-04-21 15:42:40,">>169000241
whoa...",,Anonymous,battle-network-protoman.jpg,6/HrB7BNfcbSKrBEXHEjVA==,US,,1524325360
168959096,169001911,2018-04-21 15:43:05,">>169000420
>Nigger, you RESPONDED to those things. Anything else is an argument, this is just sad that you're trying to die on this hill.
Yet you still refuse to point them out. You're bad at this.
>They are sound arguments, that you won't acknowledge because you've constructed this world in which corporations do bad because the government tells them too.
That's a strawman and entirely disconnected from your previous statement. Please stay on topic.
>Exhibit A, right there. Either i hold your hand through the logic of that statement, or you refuse to acknowledge it's true? That's weak and you know it.
You say I'm an idiot because I can't understand your point, and when I ask you to explain your point so I can understand, you just call me an idiot again. Please explain to me how an unregulated economy will turn into the dystopian nightmare you're claiming it will.
>We're having a discussion about governmental systems, not economics. You assumed that because You've constructed yours entirely around the health of the economy.
You said jews need to be silenced because they're dangerous. I showed you examples of jews who wrote economic doctrines on capitalism that eliminate any threat you believe jews could pose, you said capitalism is bullshit, I asked for a specific explanation of how capitalism is bullshit, you strawmanned me all the way here. 
>And your answer to the other concerns is...
The non-aggression principle which you still have failed to poke holes in.
>Wow, you really don't know anything about singapore, do you?
No, please explain it to me.
>That's your problem, retard, most people don't need it explained to them.
Well I do, apparently, so please explain it to me. You're not going to be able to convince me you're right about an issue if you can't even dissect the intricacies of said issue.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524325385
168959096,169001964,2018-04-21 15:43:33,">>168996573
>I keep asking you to explain to me how a monopoly can be formed without government intervention
Am I missing something in my model attempt?
I know basically nothing about economy other than that
there were a bunch of joke-cookies that managed to make quite
a joke out of the light-bulb industry.
In fact, their meme was so successful, that they even managed to have bulbs only last 10,000 (or 1000?) hours until today still,
keep that in mind it I sound too autistic.
>>168997787
...
>>168998808
Formulate the way please.
I tried and came up with some sort of semblance of an idea, but it'd be interesting to see how you see it.
Perhaps you can harness the power of Assburgerism and Yilauta and concoct a dank story of how a bunch of
cronyists manage to step on the snek?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524325413
168959096,169002057,2018-04-21 15:44:18,">>169001163
This entire conversation has been derailing the thread, none of it helps. The only reason i'm replying is it's late on a saturday night & the thread was dying anyway.
And why should i take the time to walk him through how powerful coprorate interests can manipulate the economy in their favour, when he can just point to the government regulation designed to stop them doing that, saying ""That's the problem!"" It doesn't matter how far down the rabbit hole we go, his argument is entirely theoretical, and secondary school theory at that. If it doesn't compete with his theory, that's not how it works.
Why should i take the time to walk him through how 2+2=4, when i know i get nothing out of it in the end?
At least this way i have something to cap, use for some comedy in a humour thread.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524325458
168959096,169002709,2018-04-21 15:50:22,">>168983517
wow, you must be very smart if you debunked beowulf and lord of the rings.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1524325822
168959096,169002879,2018-04-21 15:52:01,">>169000991
>then I don't think the Jews will adhere to your idea of a meritocracy
That's the beauty of it, I don't need them to. If the jews want to start up a jew exclusive corporation, they can do that, and you can wander on over to a non-jewish corporation. If they're willing to sacrifice potential profits to only hire jews, it's their loss and their responsibility, nobody else's.
>a bunch of faggots in an endless match of FFA team up and simply go spawn-camping,
Spawn camping only works when there's a predetermined number of opponents and one well defined spawn point. If people could drop in and out of matches and spawn points were random, analogous to business in life, they wouldn't be able to spawn camp shit. There's a reason the private sector didn't need to worry about monopolies even before anti-monopoly legislation was put in place. The closest thing we got was Rockefeller with Standard Oil, and that was because he had far superior business practices that temporarily crippled his competitors. He was the first person to invest in interstate pipelines and kerosene oil, if I recall correctly. He didn't use cronyism to destroy competitors, it was his competitors that used cronyism to reign in his success so they could stand a chance despite their incompetence. 
>here in reality the emerging points for new competitors are similar and the ability for ingenuity to be implemented by its originators has a threshold that cronyists can surpass
Cronies requires a government prone to crony capitalism, which a libertarian would not be. You can't lobby support from a branch of government that doesn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524325921
168959096,169003013,2018-04-21 15:53:16,">>169000042
>Let me use an analogy here. The danger in a monopoly is a business does not need to concern itself with competition and can engage in any anti-consumer practices they wish without fear of losing costumers to other businesses.
Hm, okay, so the dynasty collapses every now and then?
Still not very nice for da beoble when the collapse has not just been the right amount of time ago.
>what internet service providers would look like in the U.S. without
>EPA regulations not allowing new companies to install the
>necessary infrastructure to compete. The need for net neutrality
>would disappear overnight. 
Definetly agree with that one.
And fuck you, reddithentainerds.
t.Pai
>Monopolies try to knock out competitors, but every competitor
>they knock out just makes it easier for newcomers.
Well... maybe...
I mean, you could be right.
Has it ever been tried?
At any rate, it could also result in them simply banking on being watchful of anything emergent
and then, like a group of locusts that have found the field that the farmers have cultivated,
implement the idea themselves (maybe slightly modified), shit.
The farmers die, just like the competition, and then they wait again for the remnants of what
was left of that farmer to cultivate them a new field.
But perhaps it would work like you described, though I would think it wouldn't.
And if it wouldn't, then one would try to implement royalty-and license laws,
which can be misused by the giants again, by simply being able to develop emerging
concepts to that final stage faster once the major work of discovery and development
has been done by an ""emergin"" competitor, and claim I.P..
Fug :DDD",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524325996
168959096,169003366,2018-04-21 15:56:38,">>169001911
>yet you still refuse to point them out
Because I know i don't have to, the written record is just up there. The further down you go into this argument, the worse at this you prove yourself to be.
>That's a strawman entirely disconnected from your previous statement
First of all, it wasn't and second of all, get a new way to deflect the argument.
>please explain to me how an unregulated economy would turn into the unregulated nightmare you claim it will.
Try looking at the world in a level above theory. That's my argument.
>You said jews need to be silenced because they're dangerous
Where in this entire thread did i say that? Where did i say that capitalism was bullshit? OUR conversation started because i told you Capitalism was an economic tool, and shouldn't be treated as the sole remedy to all of society's problems.
>the non-aggression principle which you have still failed to poke holes in
That is a theory. Hong Kong is the practise of that theory. So again- Your Address to the REAL issues that face the people living in Hong Kong IS...
>No, please explain it to me.
You really need your hand held over everything, don't you?
Fine. Try the book ""Hard truths"", by the nation's founder Le Kuan-Yew. It's a little expensive but you should be able to get a PDF copy from /pdfs/ over on 8.
>You're not going to be abe to convince me you're right about an issue if you can't even dissect the intricacies of said issue.
Start by dissecting the simplicity of your theories. Use Hong Kong as a starting point.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524326198
168959096,169003705,2018-04-21 16:00:07,">>169000978
>How would they do that?
I dunno, maybe by having a few allies that will lower prices in a coordinated manner at strategic points in time, having made enough money prior,
so that they can crash the other's buisness with no surviviors?
Also, I don't really know this stuff, but is it
really impossible to find a situation where in a free market there did come into existence a cartel?
I mean, perhaps there is no way and you are right, but that sounds too good to be true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZAeE9VF5NM
Comment from beneath the above video:
>1) What if cornering a market makes it easier to corner the market?
>In other words, by price fixing, you raise the barrier of entry for competitors
>so high that it is probabilistically impossible for them to break the cartel. It
>stands to reason that consumers will go with the best product, and it makes
>sense that the one with the most resources will always be able to make the
>best product and charge just enough to run competitors out of business, then
>raise prices. 
>2) You can't just say ""sure they happen, but eventually they die
>off."" without giving a time period. At first it sounds reasonable for this to go
>on for a decade. But what if a market is successfully cornered for a century?
>A millenia? You can't say ""so what?"", the market has failed several generations
>of people. A market could be cornered for the rest of human history and you
>could still counter with ""so what? it will die out eventually."" Well NOT
>""so-what"", we have a problem at some point! 
>3) Related question, when will the price of diamonds fall back down?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524326407
168959096,169003758,2018-04-21 16:00:41,">>169000241
>>169001870
Kek.
Time for mascots and memes?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524326441
168959096,169004164,2018-04-21 16:04:55,">>169003013
>Hm, okay, so the dynasty collapses every now and then? Still not very nice for da beoble when the collapse has not just been the right amount of time ago.
Yeah, sometimes things suck. If your boss managed things so poorly that his businesses vanished and your job went with it, it's unfortunate, but it happens.
>Well... maybe... I mean, you could be right. Has it ever been tried?
Well, yes. The fewer competitors there are in a field, the easier it is to compete in that field. It's easier to win a one-on-one fist fight than a 50 person free for all brawl. Vanderbilt, Rockefeller and Carnegie are all known figures for being pioneers in singlehandedly knocking down government supported monopolies. They had only a few competitors, and used unprecedented innovation and creative business tactics to overcome their predecessors. Then, when more companies showed up, they were forced to compete with one another, resulting in the most pro-consumer period in American history.
>At any rate, it could also result in them simply banking on being watchful of anything emergent and then, like a group of locusts that have found the field that the farmers have cultivated, implement the idea themselves (maybe slightly modified), shit.
That's already happening and it's not as dangerous as you think. The Oculus rift got funded, it was the only VR headset and it was looking kind of shit, but people showed interest, Sony and HTC (unimaginably bigger companies) copied them, now Oculus has competition and all three headsets are getting better all the time. The same can be said for every new technology that has arisen. 3D printers, electric cars, smartphones, etc. all started with one company, were copied by others, and are gradually being improved without anyone needing government protection.
>The farmers die, just like the competition, and then they wait again for the remnants of what
was left of that farmer to cultivate them a new field.
What?",,Anonymous,,,,,1524326695
168959096,169004462,2018-04-21 16:07:51,">>169002879
>That's the beauty of it, I don't need them to. If the jews want to start up a jew exclusive corporation, they can do that, and you can wander on over to a non-jewish corporation
>and you can wander on over to a non-jewish corporation.
Now, excuse my stupidity in being unable to see how the following is not possible:
Not if it becomes impossible for these new corporations to get anywhere near the economy-of-scale they'd need to compete.
Once the market is fixed in one plae, I believe it could become easier to be the gatekeeper of more and more aspects within it.
And all that aside, has it actually ever been tried?
No underhanded intentions here, I'm legitimately interested if there are any examples.
How do we get there?
Would you say that the government is something that has essentially emerged out of what was initially
a free market the protection of which this proto-government guaranteed?
Any if yes, and if you reply ""but it hasn't been a successful monopoly for the initiators"",
then how does that change anything about the fact that this completely legal cronyism
will result in the free market abolishing itself?",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524326871
168959096,169004736,2018-04-21 16:10:32,">>169003366
See? You've completely deflected. You've refused multiple times to explain how any of the things you said would happen would actually happen, and you've resorted to just arguing about the argument.
>Try looking at the world in a level above theory. That's my argument.
Okay, I am, I'm seeing a lot of government intervention and subsequent failure. Great argument.
>Where in this entire thread did i say that?
My bad, confused you for someone else.
>That is a theory. Hong Kong is the practise of that theory. 
No, it's a principle, and Hong Kong is not that principle in ""practise"".
>Fine. Try the book ""Hard truths"", by the nation's founder Le Kuan-Yew.
Okay, I'll look into it in the future. Was that so hard?
Now, unless you plan on addressing why unregulated capitalism and the NAP are not viable in specific terms, and/or how national socialism is superior, I am done replying to you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524327032
168959096,169005103,2018-04-21 16:14:14,">>169000042
>>169001964
i kind of chimed in right into the middle of conversation, just took a shower and have no real idea what you are talking about but the fact that someone would actually think that goverment is the only one creating all the monopolies is way too absurd for me. 
Let's see what kind of different monopolies there are just from the top of my head
1) There is resource monopoly, company gets hold of all the resources, e.g. iron or aluminium. Even if you could ship resources across the world the transportation costs give a lot of flexibility to the monopoly holder.
2)Speciality monopoly, company gets hold of all people and/or rights to produce something. For example Martin Shkreli who did his thing with the hiv medicine.
3)Brand monopoly. e.g. google search. Brand has gotten so big that it's almost impossible to compete in the same field. Almost everyone knows that google abuses privacy but because it had such a firm grip on that field everybody still uses it. There are multiple alternatives yes, but they aren't making profit. 
4)drug monopolies, a (company) ensures with violence that all competition stays obsolete or makes sure it can control the competition.
Also monopoly doesn't mean that you can do whatever you want, it simply means that company has no competition to threaten it's business model.",,Anonymous,1503632235092.jpg,rXjEz9XM+IxjLCUG6vPWjg==,FI,,1524327254
168959096,169005523,2018-04-21 16:17:55,">>169003758
exactly.",,Anonymous,woo.jpg,r1Fn5nMHSPLrXjixDp+MjQ==,US,,1524327475
168959096,169005728,2018-04-21 16:19:47,">>168960109
Mob communism is perhaps better than oligarchical communism. Marx believed that communism could only work if individuals strive to be moral. Those more individuals can form a direct democratic network (never possible before the internet) and run their communities in a delocalaized way as suggested by OP.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524327587
168959096,169005934,2018-04-21 16:21:45,">>169003705
>really impossible to find a situation where in a free market there did come into existence a cartel?
It's not that they're impossible to form, they're impossible to sustain. 
>Question 1
That only works when there's a limited number of competitors and a cap on innovation. It entire precludes the idea that more than one competitor will arise to cut into profits, or the new competitor will have a means of production more efficient than your own. These cartels will have to keep prices very low for a very long time to starve out any competitor, and most businesses would make more money competing with each other than willingly taking a loss for co-operation's sake. 
>Question 2
Figure out how much money they're losing on their artificially lowly priced products or services, multiply that by how much of that product or service they're selling per day, compare that to how much money they have and you know exactly how long they can keep this up. Not to mention, if a company is publicly traded, actively taking a loss would result in a drop in stock price, starving cartels even faster. If the smaller newcomer is making more money than the cartel trying to drive them out, investors go to them. 
>Question 3
Well, the current diamond cartels are literally using slave labor in Africa to mine them, which is why their profit margins are so wide. If they were to use legal means that don't violate the NAP in order to mine them, it wouldn't be an issue.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524327705
168959096,169006145,2018-04-21 16:23:37,">>169004736
Funny, i remember there being more then 4 responses that I gave you. Who's deflecting again?
>Okay, i'm sseing a lot of government intervention and subsequent failure.
where is the government intervention in Hong Kong?
>My bad, confused you for someone else
So you don't even know what i've been trying to argue? I seem to remember my actual words going into a little more detail then just ""that."" Care to explain what exactly you got confused by?
>Was that so hard?
In the context of trying to explain why protectionism is necessary to a guy who sees any kind of protectionism as communism and refuses to acknowledge that a monopoly doesn't just need a government to be maintained? yes, it's hard to explain basic truths in basic terms to a mind even more basic then that.
>Now, unless you plan on addressing why unregulated capitalism and the NAP are not viable in specific terms, and/or how national socialism is superior, I am done replying to you.
What a handy little cop-out.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524327817
168959096,169006221,2018-04-21 16:24:20,">>169004164
>but it happens
Shit man, I don't think I want to live in a society where large swathes of the population will be de-facto slaves to price fixing to get to basic commodities once there is an over-supply of workers and an adequately capped market.
>The fewer competitors there are in a field, the easier it is to compete in that field. It's easier to win a one-on-one fist fight than a 50 person free for all brawl.
> It's easier to win a one-on-one fist fight than a 50 person free for all brawl.
To get into that analogy (and I had no intention of misrepresenting you if what I am about to play out in your scenario doesn't fit with the theory you were trying to exemplify with the analogy in the first place):
What if I am part of that brawl and manage to connect to a few of the brawlers through purposefully
not retalliating after dodging and speaking to them instead, chiming in an alliance we will just call the SA for shits and giggles right now?
>for being pioneers in singlehandedly knocking down government supported monopolies.
Okay you win on that point, the government is shit at building monopolies, whew!
Butt; how do you want them to knock down a monopoly that had crystallized to the optimal shape within a free market that is putting the gun to the head of the consumers?
Would companies essentiall mutate into government sooner or later?
>Then, when more companies showed up, they were forced to compete with one another, resulting in the most pro-consumer period in American history.
Sounds nice in theorry desu.
I mean, the final few examples you name do inspire hope, but I still have that lingering fear of industriallization-time standards.
The coming automation will literallly buttfuck humans harder than anything before in the economy.
On that thing with the farmer; I failed to use the plural for ""farmer"" at the right points, just forget it, I believe you got what I wanted to send.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),316[1].jpg,cvf9QbeJ6ef3eFrKoLZT1w==,DE,,1524327860
168959096,169006319,2018-04-21 16:25:10,">>169004462
The U.S. government was created initially with certain powers. Initially, these powers were limited and allowed for mostly free capitalism, but expanded over time. The constitution was written to prevent it from expanding from certain areas other than the free market, and it's done a decent job of doing that. I think burning the government to the ground and writing a new constitution that prevents the government overreach we've seen is a potential solution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524327910
168959096,169006975,2018-04-21 16:31:26,">>168962060
Who is she?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524328286
168959096,169007084,2018-04-21 16:32:25,,,Anonymous,,,,,1524328345
168959096,169007406,2018-04-21 16:35:39,">>169006975
Who, Cheryl Cole?
She was a singer in some pop group created by a reality TV show, now she judges one.",,1- Gr.Manchester,,,GB,,1524328539
168959096,169007416,2018-04-21 16:35:43,">>169005103
>3)Brand monopoly. e.g. google search. Brand has gotten so big that it's almost impossible to compete in the same field. Almost everyone knows that google abuses privacy but because it had such a firm grip on that field everybody still uses it. There are multiple alternatives yes, but they aren't making profit.
This one resonates with me expecially.
>inb4 it'll be crowdfunded decentralized anarcho networks
>It's not that they're impossible to form, they're impossible to sustain.
Hm, okay, I really don't wanna walk in circles.
I guess the bad that results from cyclically forming and collapsing monopolies isn't as bad as those the government (un)intentionally forms?
I really see your answers as pretty good, only one problem:
(I have pointed a little in its direction earlier)
Your whole ideology seems to revolve around creating a maximum of profit.
It does this because you believe that the sole orientation around profit will make it better for humans.
Thus you make it better for humans by creating a system that enables the sole orientation on profits.
But what if this doesn't coincide for significant periods of time?
The whole automation thing and all that.
I mean, the few that sit in the ivory tower of machines and robots will have incredible prosperity,
but all the others that became unnecessary for the sustenance of this system will probably
face a pretty brutal depopulation.
Private McHungerGames?
But I am assuming that your aim is for a world to be better for alll/most humans possible?
What if the situation becomes so that the most profitable thing to do is for a very small group to be prosperous while the rest dies in a ditch?
I am really having difficulties bringing my point across right now, I am pretty tired, but I hope I somehow got it over to your mind from mine.
Kek, this must be the longest conversation I've ever had on /pol/.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524328543
168959096,169008217,2018-04-21 16:43:36,">>169006221
>Shit man, I don't think I want to live in a society where large swathes of the population will be de-facto slaves to price fixing to get to basic commodities once there is an over-supply of workers and an adequately capped market.
That's why workers form labor unions to negotiate, no slavery.
>What if I am part of that brawl and manage to connect to a few of the brawlers through purposefully not retalliating after dodging and speaking to them instead, chiming in an alliance we will just call the SA for shits and giggles right now?
Okay, to adapt the analogy, let's say that any new people could join the fight at any time, and they all have varying levels of skill and experience in many styles of fighting.
>Butt; how do you want them to knock down a monopoly that had crystallized to the optimal shape within a free market that is putting the gun to the head of the consumers?
I'm not sure I understand. If a company does not have consenting support of it's consumers, nor government support to prop it up, what is actually stopping competitors from arising? 
>Sounds nice in theorry desu.
It's not that it's nice in theory, it happened for a long time until government regulation stepped in. 
>I mean, the final few examples you name do inspire hope, but I still have that lingering fear of industriallization-time standards.
Again, labor unions.
>The coming automation will literallly buttfuck humans harder than anything before in the economy.
Not necessarily. The more automated it is, the cheaper it is to produce. Eventually we'll reach a point of peak automation and efficiency where prices will be astronomically low and people can still make a shitload of money because of wide profit margins. Also, automation is primarily a concern when you have minimum wage laws. Robots only become useful when their maintenance costs less than an equivalent worker's paycheck, which would be pushed back with the abolition of minimum wage.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524329016
168959096,169008429,2018-04-21 16:45:50,">>169007406
Thx. Brb.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1524329150
168959096,169008645,2018-04-21 16:48:01,">>169006319
>burning the government to the ground
NervousStatistSweating.png
NervousCivilizationalSweating.avi
NervousHumanitarian.....
moral.....
kek, whatever.
At any rate, I think you don't even need to burn the government to the ground to try it out.
But what will prevent new governments from forming and overreaching once they are formed as limited governments after that?
The contract to end all contracts?
I mean, it would be pretty nice desu.
And probably genetic technologies in a free market would let a better human emerge that may be able to stay useful and not become oboslete in the course of advances.
But hell, doesn't the enforcment of the NAP give way to exploitation of power again?
Bribes in the govt. from companies, then some selectively enforced NAP around different parts of the world with varying numbers of human ""surplus"" and the vicious cylce continues?
Oh crap, almost 23:00.
My internet will cut off at that time.
>>169008217
>Robots only become useful when their maintenance costs less than an equivalent worker's paycheck, which would be pushed back with the abolition of minimum wage.
So I keep humans around for a little longer so that I may see them work at even lower wages until the wages are so low that they die off/robots become more effective again.
It's a shift of the problem a little further into the future by getting rid of the government.
Okay, man, I am really not able to get into your frame of understanding the world.
Tell me which books inspired you plz.
Maybe I'll catch on after I see it extrapolated in a long book.",,Anon 2 - Germany (upper Bavaria),,,DE,,1524329281
168959096,169009349,2018-04-21 16:55:00,">>168974685
Anon 6 - Britain, Leeds. Sign me up fag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1524329700
168959096,169009703,2018-04-21 16:58:17,">>169008645
>But what will prevent new governments from forming and overreaching once they are formed as limited governments after that?
Here's the thing. The best you can do is write a constitution that will slow the government from aggregating power, you literally can't stop it. The founders of the United States believed that, despite how much effort they put into the U.S. constitution, there would need to be a rebellion similar to the one they did against the Britain every 200 years or so. Government overreach can only be slowed, not stopped, and needs to be reset once it gets too out of hand. We're not going to be able to just vote the government into submission. No single position in the U.S. government is powerful enough to do what would be necessary for a libertarian society. You would need a consensus among a majority of government officials, many of which would lose almost all of their power and income. Many of them would be out of a job completely. There is no way to achieve libertarianism with our current government. Even a libertarian president would not be enough, as John McAfee pointed out during his campaign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MobTJolSyUE
>But hell, doesn't the enforcment of the NAP give way to exploitation of power again?
Not necessarily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o&
>Oh crap, almost 23:00. My internet will cut off at that time.
Why tho
>So I keep humans around for a little longer so that I may see them work at even lower wages until the wages are so low that they die off/robots become more effective again.
I'm just saying that minimum wage laws are driving people to automation faster than they necessarily have to. Some people's labor is not worth whatever the minimum wage is in that area, and those people go jobless completely and starve to death when they don't have to.
>Tell me which books inspired you plz.
>>168972077
>>168972201
>>168972363",,Anonymous,,,,,1524329897
168959096,169009858,2018-04-21 16:59:34,">>169008645
Ever been to Augsburg? You probably have. Bavaria is fucking great. Sign me up though, for real.
>>169007406
You should make a discord, even though I know that's kind of a shit honeypot thing. Still worthwhile investment. Facilitates things 1000x.",,Anon 6 - Britain (Leeds),,,,,1524329974
170560708,170560708,2018-05-05 16:07:46,">Introduction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGWnooumM2o [Embed]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlNtIMAdvLk [Embed]
>What is Vanguardism?
There is a time coming when the damage done to the west will mean that it can’t hold the weight of it’s world burdens anymore, and it will collapse.
So far, we’ve been acting like all we need to do is wait for that collapse to come; that when the shit hits the fan, people will start listening to us.
But they won’t. They will start listening to whoever can turn things back to normal the fastest. And that isn’t us. We are isolated, We have no presence outside of the internet, no grounding in our communities.
If we want to be ready when the time comes, then we need to get ready. We have to start turning ourselves into leaders, or at least capable flagbearers.
We need to start becoming respected in our communities, rather than unknown shut-ins.
Most importantly, we need to start meeting IRL, to combine our efforts in this task and to start building the network.
We need to become the Vanguard.",/VG/ -- Vanguardism General,Anonymous,1523729350340.png,RluEZz2pMhwxuJCVWiTQLg==,US,,1525536466
170560708,170560771,2018-05-05 16:08:21,">What’s the plan?
We start organising in our local areas. Not in one group, or large numbers- in fact, specifically in separate groups of 5.
1ST PHASE-
>Start going to the gym together 
>Start cooking together
>Start a reading list and start discussing the books together
>Get comfortable with debating your point of view, get familiar with the ideological underpinning of your view
>Start dressing nice. Start looking like a respectable group of people
>Start helping each other find jobs, start helping the less socially gifted amongst us get comfortable in public
2ND PHASE-
>Start volunteering
>Start attending community events
>Start getting involved in local politics and campaigns
Become known, dependable faces in your local community
And then, once everyone's visibly better off and in a comfortable routine? Find four more people each. And split off into 5 new groups. And let the cycle start again.
It's a tactic based on recognising our strength (no formal power structure or hierarchy, no stable target or single list of names) and using it to improve on our weakness (our isolatedness, and the wariness of IRL activity that it creates).
Without any central group to attack, we put ourselves in a better position- and one from which we're ready to organise when the happenings happen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525536501
170560708,170560911,2018-05-05 16:09:57,">How do we go about meeting people?
There’s an entire board dedicated to just that >>>/soc/
We’ll start setting up colonies over there once there’s enough people. I’d also recommend getting a protonmail account and a gab.ai account, for arranging the meetupsin more detail then a general area.
>I’m a Civic Nationalist, can I join?
No. Civicuckery is doublethink trying to marry what is factual with what is socially acceptable. This is a Nationalist Vanguard, not a Liberalist meetup.
>Do we have a more permanent online base?
We’re getting one, but 4chan doesn’t allow links. One we’ve got enough attention on these threads, I’ll set up a /soc/ colony asking for burner emails and send you the link from there.
>”Start building networks, goy, come together so we can keep an eye on you”
This isn’t a single movement with leaders and conferences and marches. This isn’t something that the press or the government can infiltrate and tear down.
Even if they tried, what would they find? Small groups of young men, Improving themselves and becoming respected members of society.
If they wanted to start passing legislation or making arrests, they would have to admit, publicly, that the ONLY reason they are against it is because we are right-wing. And if you’ve been paying attention over the last few years, revealing their hand hasn’t done them any good.
>Google vanguardism- first result Leninism
If you google Socialism, you get Marxist theory. Does that make National Socialists Marxists?
>”Isn’t that a fascist symbol? The media could attack us for that, you should change it”
1. This is the symbol of the thread, not the movement, because
2. If you’d been paying attention you’d already know there is no single figure, organization or symbol for the entire movement, specifically so that the media *can’t* attack us, and
3. If you consider a small display of nationalism like that to be a danger to the movement, then the movement isn’t for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525536597
170560708,170561071,2018-05-05 16:11:43,"pastebin.com/raw/GP9jmnFx
All info here
It's summertime boys. Lets get some training camps up and running.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525536703
170560708,170561600,2018-05-05 16:17:26,"I didn't want to resort to this, but can one of you faggots bump the thread?",,Anonymous,pITVcia.jpg,4UIHb1fY9+OP5q8yT5twaQ==,US,,1525537046
170560708,170564252,2018-05-05 16:46:20,*saves the thread*,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1525538780
170560708,170566871,2018-05-05 17:15:45,">>170564252
* saves it again *
Btw has somebody started it/have some personal experience?",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1525540545