thread_id,id,timestamp,body,subject,author,image_file,image_md5,country_code,country_name,unix_timestamp 111703704,111703704,2017-02-08 13:23:55,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,Radical centrist.jpg,gEVcOh8d8yd9YyQDloEOXw==,GB,,1486560235 111703704,111704073,2017-02-08 13:27:07,bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486560427 111703704,111704609,2017-02-08 13:31:28,">>111703704 Not many Centrists here Anon, we lurk more than we post I believe. I appreciate your angle though, maybe more will come out of the shadows.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486560688 111703704,111704692,2017-02-08 13:32:07,">>111703704 inb4 alt-cucks post ""funny pictures"" about centrics beign cowards because they actually have a brain and don't see the world in black and white..",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1486560727 111703704,111704715,2017-02-08 13:32:21,">>111703704 I am one of you now.",,Designated CENTRIST?,1468920196887.png,0rhZ4+CRw2PGetMQf2CqTw==,GB,,1486560741 111703704,111705002,2017-02-08 13:34:32,">>111703704 I'm only here for the shitposting.",,Anonymous,mutualistball_sticker-r31d6aefe16f74dab934f758baab93b12_v9waf_8byvr_512.jpg,bCUjJigN+CShfUEhoQTxJQ==,US,,1486560872 111703704,111705032,2017-02-08 13:34:47,">>111703704 >moderation and reason on a board built on extremist This'll go well nigger, you either a communist or a fascist here",,Anonymous,"flat,800x800,070,f.jpg",hQlaFLqxp0ftTBaXfSJlDg==,GB,,1486560887 111703704,111705091,2017-02-08 13:35:19,Too intelligent to fall for the right and left meme. I'm a radical centrist,,Anonymous,f93.png,3jwOJ/c/1Ht3U15FmwDK/g==,ES,,1486560919 111703704,111705157,2017-02-08 13:35:45,">>111705032 I thought I was a leftist but the centrism got me ;-;",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486560945 111703704,111705401,2017-02-08 13:37:54,"Its a bit of an oxymoron isnt it? Centrism usually takes a huge pride in not being radical? What do you do, take a radical pride in not being radical",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486561074 111703704,111705427,2017-02-08 13:38:07,">>111705157 Just read some fake news article exaggerating how the rich exploiting the poor and you'll be back",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486561087 111703704,111705508,2017-02-08 13:38:47,Hello my intelligent brethren how are you today,,all posts made by this IP address are satire and/or ironic,,,US,,1486561127 111703704,111705635,2017-02-08 13:39:47,">>111703704 Mister centrist in case a race-war hypthetically takes place who would you fight for your own race,the enemy or nobody?",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1486561187 111703704,111705688,2017-02-08 13:40:13,">>111705427 >exaggerating haha yeah but really everyone working in currency speculation or lending should be hanged for their crimes",,Designated CENTRIST?,1477314240226.jpg,mE1goxgbGfn15wwKS3uyDA==,GB,,1486561213 111703704,111705827,2017-02-08 13:41:18,>>111703704,,Anonymous,1486004767666.png,PdMe9xepKKt8v9pCoVnNvA==,DE,,1486561278 111703704,111706185,2017-02-08 13:44:06,">>111705401 You can also like radical positions coming from the left and the right",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1486561446 111703704,111706526,2017-02-08 13:46:42,">>111705401 no, they ride segways and do ziplining and other radical shit whilst spouting a meme position that has the worst of both real options.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486561602 111703704,111706868,2017-02-08 13:49:14,">>111703704 Can anyone name me a great person who was viewed as a centrist in their day.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486561754 111703704,111706877,2017-02-08 13:49:18,">>111706185 I see That just seems still impossible because having a radical position usually comes with a heavy ideology I guess it could be >SEND THE BLACKS TO AFRICA >Because empirically they are a negative for this country",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486561758 111703704,111706952,2017-02-08 13:49:44,">>111703704 ok lets see what solutions you have to offer liberals say that the reason blacks are imprisoned at such high rates is due to police bias against blacks and racism also liberals say they put blacks because petty crimes like illegal drugs, littering, sagging their pants or whatever right wingers say that blacks are imprisoned because of their genetic tendency to be violent, blacks also have highest homicide rate in US, they have shitty culture what's the middle ground here?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1486561784 111703704,111707145,2017-02-08 13:51:12,">>111706952 Deport the blacks without bothering to find out the answer because it's pragmatic.",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486561872 111703704,111707380,2017-02-08 13:53:06,">>111703704 >political spectrum constantly shifting leftward >being a centrist How does that make sense?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486561986 111703704,111707621,2017-02-08 13:54:48,">>111707380 >constantly shifting leftward This is a meme tier opinion that ignores the nuance of our current political situation. Part of the reason SJWs exist is to defend the ideas of the libertarian-right in banking and markets, to prevent a protectionist small-c conservative state closing in and reimposing Christian morality on the markets.",,Designated CENTRIST?,1478845815695.jpg,YYt7ZIg4TW3OYeDeJaZH/g==,GB,,1486562088 111703704,111707689,2017-02-08 13:55:22,">>111707145 but isn't that racist in the eyes of a liberal or a left winger? wouldn't that cause a social unrest? also where are you going to deport them to? some labor camps in africa or what?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1486562122 111703704,111707896,2017-02-08 13:56:53,">>111707621 What I'm seeing from this image is Hillary performing a redirection into social policy (shit that doesn't matter) when asked about economic policy (shit that does matter)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486562213 111703704,111707904,2017-02-08 13:56:59,">>111707689 i was mostly joking. >also where are you going to deport them to? some labor camps in africa or what? wherever'll take them.",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486562219 111703704,111708090,2017-02-08 13:58:22,GOAT centrist,,Anonymous,prof-jordan-peterson.png,HiyAb4MOZ6w7mBuP1t5bHw==,US,,1486562302 111703704,111708289,2017-02-08 13:59:46,">>111707896 Because her economic answer is part of the economically-liberal status quo position of leaving the banks alone, while her social position lets her pretend to be left wing. Just like Bill Clinton in the 90s declaring ""the era of big government is over,"" and Tony Blair promising to stick to Tory spending plans for his first 2 years in office. The economic reforms since the 1970s were largely a mistake. (Starting with the end of Breton Woods) Stagflation was caused by the sudden onset of high oil prices more than any other factor. Most people can't or won't see this though, so you wind up with the position that there's no going back from the globalism that resulted.",,Designated CENTRIST?,1485206486806.jpg,pLQ7Z792a1G0eo1JtBZQ/Q==,GB,,1486562386 111703704,111708354,2017-02-08 14:00:20,">>111707904 I'll consider centrism when you start offering solutions to problems that pleases both leftists and right winger, right now it looks to me like a troll position and nothing else",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1486562420 111703704,111708425,2017-02-08 14:00:52,">>111704692 No need to. Radical centrism is a meme on its own.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1486562452 111703704,111708558,2017-02-08 14:01:53,">>111708289 Adding on: Except Trump, who's to some degree outside this spectrum, although many of his advisors appear to sadly be economic-liberals. If he goes ahead with Tariffs, we could see some interesting things result. >>111708354 I'm not a centrist. My trip is usually designated leftist. (Actually broadly speaking a protectionist, but it puts me quite left-wing economically with the caveat of massive immigration controls.)",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486562513 111703704,111708994,2017-02-08 14:05:08,Undecided scum.,,Anonymous,centrist faggot.jpg,QlvXnOTauLHXZp1ncg2VrQ==,US,,1486562708 111703704,111709467,2017-02-08 14:08:31,>I don't know how to be morally consistent!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486562911 111703704,111709614,2017-02-08 14:09:41,">Radical Centrist More leftist bullshit. Goodbye David.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486562981 111703704,111710133,2017-02-08 14:13:28,">>111708558 when will British economy collapse?",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1486563208 111703704,111710318,2017-02-08 14:14:52,">>111710133 No idea. I think we're going to get another recession by 2020-2021 though. The USA has had one every decade for quite a while. The last was 10 years ago...",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486563292 111703704,111710845,2017-02-08 14:18:28,">>111709467 >My ideology lets me think I have a perfect complete understanding of the world! I feel so smart!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486563508 111703704,111710866,2017-02-08 14:18:38,">>111703704 >radical I don't have a real opinion so I'll shift to whatever you want general FUCK OFF anon.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1486563518 111703704,111710985,2017-02-08 14:19:30,">>111703704 >radical centerist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxK_nA2iVXw",,Anonymous,black retarded pepe 1.jpg,Fp0BQQyZcOQHbiZO0c19RA==,US,,1486563570 111703704,111711033,2017-02-08 14:19:47,">>111706868 Judges?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486563587 111703704,111711252,2017-02-08 14:21:15,">>111705091 I kind of support killing off idiot ideologues on the left and right to make way for a society of actual intellectuals. Does that make me a dirty non-centrist idealist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486563675 111703704,111711332,2017-02-08 14:21:50,">>111710845 Not the world, just morals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486563710 111703704,111711671,2017-02-08 14:24:27,">>111711332 virtue is the only good",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486563867 111703704,111711721,2017-02-08 14:24:43,">>111711332 thats everything",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486563883 111703704,111712166,2017-02-08 14:28:00,">>111703704 MUH CENTRISM > Literally pussies that are afraid to either go full left OR full right. > Confused Neets that don't have an identity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486564080 111703704,111712507,2017-02-08 14:30:26,getting really tired of all the british tripfags tbqh,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486564226 111703704,111712796,2017-02-08 14:32:22,">>111712507 90% of British posters on this board are bluepilled little faggots like OP.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486564342 111703704,111715233,2017-02-08 14:49:00,">>111703704 Am I a Centrist or a Conservative?",,Anonymous,compass.png,4opli3N1KrxQ0qDsuPvTIA==,CA,,1486565340 111703704,111715824,2017-02-08 14:53:33,">>111712166 >You have to have a home team in politics or you are a pussy",,Anonymous,haidtmoralvalues.png,VrH9edda9ySGWV4EM3apdw==,CA,,1486565613 111703704,111715940,2017-02-08 14:54:24,">>111703704 >radical centrist Aka left wing leaning parasite who thinks he's smart because he can shit on both sides without anyone making fun of his side because he has none",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486565664 111703704,111716102,2017-02-08 14:55:37,">>111712166 what if your political (((identity))) is inscrutable? back to the shadows for this individual",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486565737 111703704,111716729,2017-02-08 15:00:04,">>111703704 >tfw too smart to form an opinion",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1486566004 111703704,111717903,2017-02-08 15:08:24,How does being a radical centrist jive with the ongoing movement of the overton window? Is it like Clintonian triangulation where you move with the wind of the latest polls? Everything interesting and almost all thinkers outside the last 100 years are far outside the current overton window.,,Anonymous,Political-Triangle.png,/xKM8FI8719FKv6HdpDeXw==,US,,1486566504 111703704,111718568,2017-02-08 15:12:53,">>111705401 In a political environment such as ours where logic is dismissed in favor of muh feels; it makes perfect sense",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486566773 111703704,111718628,2017-02-08 15:13:20,">>111716729 I needed like 40 formed opinions to get through this survey.",,Anonymous,chart.png,uW0E12r9+RwLBcO0A3ls0w==,US,,1486566800 111703704,111719068,2017-02-08 15:16:32,">>111708289 The economist Mark Blyth, who also has a cool Scottish accent, has a lot of good lectures about Trump/Brexit/Le Pen/etc. in the context of the economic decisions made in the 70s and onwards and how it impacted labor. If people get bored: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkm2Vfj42FY It's far more convincing than the left narrative which basically amounts to ""Richard Spencer and Pepe turned rural Pennsylvania into the KKK"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486566992 111703704,111719195,2017-02-08 15:17:26,">>111703704 Can someone brief me on what does radical centrism believe in? Is it like a mix of both right and left or is it completely different?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486567046 111703704,111719328,2017-02-08 15:18:26,">>111717903 >Everything interesting and almost all thinkers outside the last 100 years are far outside the current overton window. Ideally, the government should be the most boring thing in the world. I voted for Trump but I agree with Styx; I want him to be a mild reformer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567106 111703704,111719629,2017-02-08 15:20:30,">>111719068 Opening it now. What sort of Economist is he? (Keynesian, Neoclassical, classical, austrian, marxist, etc.)",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486567230 111703704,111719854,2017-02-08 15:22:12,">>111703704 More identity politics. Cool.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567332 111703704,111719972,2017-02-08 15:23:07,">>111703704 Radical centrists are close-minded so they aren't welcomed here.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486567387 111703704,111720017,2017-02-08 15:23:29,You fucks better at least vote.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567409 111703704,111720031,2017-02-08 15:23:34,">>111719629 Probably should've said political economist; I mainly know him from jumping around Youtube after hearing about him post-election. He was very anti-austerity in Europe following the banking crisis, and his videos from 2009/2010 hold up pretty well. So definitely left-leaning, but doesn't seem to be at all dogmatic about it. If he has a designated economic philosophy I haven't caught it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567414 111703704,111720344,2017-02-08 15:25:56,I own a Ford Mondeo,,Ethnically Cleanse the Maori,,,NZ,,1486567556 111703704,111720391,2017-02-08 15:26:14,">>111720031 Love Blythe, glad to see him getting known",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567574 111703704,111720710,2017-02-08 15:28:42,">>111703704 Who else Alt-Centrist here?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486567722 111703704,111720901,2017-02-08 15:29:58,">>111720031 Ah, should be interesting then. I'm broadly of the same leaning myself, albeit with a strong dose of nationalism. (Hence why I'm usually ""Designated Leftist"") A much shorter clip I like to come back to is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdZp5iw-UEo , it aligns almost exactly with how Michal Kalecki predicted the Keynesian Consensus would end up. Full Employment would empower labour, bourgeoisie would get scared, engineer a crisis and try to kill it off. What do you know? Full employment empowered Labour, a convenient crisis popped up in 1973, and the only solution was mass unemployment... The British angle on this is particularly fascinating because the Establishment went along with it so much. The BBC were making outright propaganda (pic related) and certain elements of the security services even wanted a full blown coup. Horrifying stuff. Now we've got an economy propped up entirely on personal debt and a permanent housing bubble.",,Designated CENTRIST?,1465887510197.png,ybPPFRZ2JZBJ5yDWO9S3Eg==,GB,,1486567798 111703704,111720959,2017-02-08 15:30:21,">>111703704 Right or left is a meme for good goys. I have leftist economic ideas but right cultural ideas like most of the people here.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486567821 111703704,111721031,2017-02-08 15:30:57,">""socially liberal, fiscally conservative""",,Anonymous,f43b0b230ca73da97fb5e3b5a019b464c35ab6bdadf81b98b34b493e9b5c003f.png,qR/GmFiXOqOGEk3/ErS81g==,US,,1486567857 111703704,111721040,2017-02-08 15:31:04,">>111703704 Radical Centrist, you mean Hitler right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567864 111703704,111721233,2017-02-08 15:32:24,">Centrist >Left and Right >the ""Political Spectrum"" you can post as many pics of books as you want it won't make anyone think you're any smarter.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567944 111703704,111721243,2017-02-08 15:32:27,">>111720901 wrong. we doubled the supply of labor in the 70s by letting women into the main workforce It did not double the demand for labor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486567947 111703704,111721268,2017-02-08 15:32:36,">>111703704 Too sympathetic to hang out with the conservative right wing. Too racist and appreciative of tradition to hang out with shitty lefties.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486567956 111703704,111721386,2017-02-08 15:33:25,">>111711252 >killing off idiot ideologies >make way for an intelligent society >authoritarian pursue of the intellectual way you're a nazi, my friend",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1486568005 111703704,111721565,2017-02-08 15:34:36,">>111721243 >we doubled the supply of labor in the 70s by letting women into the main workforce In the UK they were already a major part of the workforce. All we did was open up equal pay legislation. Doubling would always be a gross overestimate though. (Not that I'm arguing for women's rights, for all I care they can be made property.)",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486568076 111703704,111722070,2017-02-08 15:38:21,">>111705091 Can you post more brain wojacks?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1486568301 111703704,111722346,2017-02-08 15:40:17,">>111705401 Every ideology has contradictions. e.g. do Anarcho 'maximum freedom, no government intervention' Capitalists take into account for the freedom to subvert people and bombard them with adverts? What about the freedom to form a government? How do they refute: >World started as AnCap by default >Governments formed Do Anarcho 'stateless society, everyone is equal' Communists take into account that someone MIGHT deny collectivism and if you prevent them you are a government or you allow them and you're no longer communist? Imo, having a one-fit-all ideology is stupid - culture and social cohesion are much more important. If you plane-drop a bunch of Assault rifles in Japan, nothing will happen because people are smart and have no reason to shoot but understand consequences if they do. If you drop a bunch of assault rifles in Somalia, it will cause mayhem because Somalians are trigger-happy (68 average IQ, half of them are dumber than that). You give them guns, they shoot. They see female, they rape. Simple. So how can someone have a _________ ideology when you need different tools for different situations?",,Anonymous,416px-Political_spectrum_horseshoe_model.svg.png,hSpsJTvjpkXECxcZYjtu7g==,GB,,1486568417 111703704,111722641,2017-02-08 15:42:14,">>111703704 Centrists, please go away.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486568534 111703704,111722902,2017-02-08 15:44:04,">>111721565 dude get real. there were jobs for men and then a few tasks for women this changed in the 70s and our wages have not kept up with inflation",,Anonymous,1485888345515.jpg,Gf0JdAaic8Ch4AjlpZz9iQ==,US,,1486568644 111703704,111723074,2017-02-08 15:45:16,">>111722641 No thanks.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486568716 111703704,111723097,2017-02-08 15:45:23,">>111722902 Our wages have not kept pace with inflation, but outsourcing and immigration (and the massive growth of power to international-finance-capital) are just as culpable as women.",,Designated CENTRIST?,1465882795275.png,ARBdhOpIHLNEhwNWu4UOsA==,GB,,1486568723 111703704,111723196,2017-02-08 15:46:05,">>111722346 That's why ideologies that are specific to a culture/race work well due to the differences of people on Earth. That's why things like certain forms of socialism, National Socialism, et cetera only work in homogeneous populations like in Europe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486568765 111703704,111723269,2017-02-08 15:46:40,">>111715233 Your results are wildly inconsistent The only thing you are is uneducated",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486568800 111703704,111724830,2017-02-08 15:57:31,">>111703704 >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism i leik",,Anonymous,000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.jpg,Ff3aRtPgQwuzfkCBc3Y8ZA==,IL,,1486569451 111703704,111724915,2017-02-08 15:58:12,>>111723269,,Anonymous,1477319540024.gif,XoaYNqrlKST7uj9eVPo9dw==,CA,,1486569492 111703704,111724958,2017-02-08 15:58:31,"True neutral is a myth, lads.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486569511 111703704,111725105,2017-02-08 15:59:38,">>111703704 Is theft immoral? If the answer is yes, you are right wing.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1486569578 111703704,111725132,2017-02-08 15:59:50,">>111711721 The world consists of different cultures, languages, regions, etc. whIle morality is simply what's right or wrong Don'tworry I remember my first week on /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486569590 111703704,111725233,2017-02-08 16:00:37,">>111723097 Why is Italy so low? Is this why their GDP is a low outlier compared to other European countries?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486569637 111703704,111725405,2017-02-08 16:01:42,">>111703704 t. Glenn Beck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486569702 111703704,111725652,2017-02-08 16:03:27,">>111705401 >There are pitfalls of Chaos(the left) and Order(the right) we need a dialog to have balance between chaos and order. Centrism is about looking at both sides to find the path society needs to take forward instead of posting memes about how (otherside) is a mental disorder and we would have utopia if our team had permanent rule. >""He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that""",,Anonymous,1486539437578.jpg,bsN75yXJcZPrGd0ooPuAyg==,CA,,1486569807 111703704,111725802,2017-02-08 16:04:25,I was told there would be something radical....,,Anonymous,beegbos.jpg,7ib6YKWyN4byLCpw5ZpDkg==,US,,1486569865 111703704,111726065,2017-02-08 16:06:22,">>111725132 Morality is the question ""what should I do?"". thats everything",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486569982 111703704,111726852,2017-02-08 16:12:43,>>111705827,,Anonymous,buddha 1.jpg,eXm2jeiky646gNwDoufUzw==,IL,,1486570363 111703704,111726924,2017-02-08 16:13:18,">>111723196 And countries where even as little as 5% of the population think they can blow themselves up for a shortcut to heaven, need an authoritarian to prevent total chaos. So why did your government ""promote democracy"" in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria etc., thus creating nothing but total chaos?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486570398 111703704,111726947,2017-02-08 16:13:30,"Two years ago, I was a hardcore leftist, but ever since Trump's election, I've been shifting more and more to the right. As of right now, my beliefs are right of center, but has time progresses, my hatred for the left increases. If the left keeps going the way it's going, I'll be calling myself a conservative in less than a year.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486570410 111703704,111727047,2017-02-08 16:14:17,">>111726947 How old are you?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486570457 111703704,111727240,2017-02-08 16:15:32,"who /utilitarian/ here >oppose all war (except for funding Assad against ISIS as ISIS is our fault and responsibility) >cut military budget 30%+, redirect a portion of it as reparations to Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc >defend against pollution and climate change >ban birth control pills, fund all abortions as an alternative >ban porn >send fat kids to weight loss camps >use tax dollars to fund fat shaming and slut shaming >deploy massive oversight on harmful chemicals/hormones in environment and food, thoroughly control food >regulate big business, deregulate small business >separate church and state, abolish marriage and make it a religious decision >use diseases, water contamination, sterilization-for-cash, etc to depopulate the third world >starting with the most severe and working down the ladder, send prisoners to be used for human experimentation >push to create an immortal ruling class, human brains merged with computers, human brains born and raised as brain-machines that never had bodies >defend the constitution >nationwide stand-your-ground, concealed carry, open carry >build a wall and deport illegal immigrants >publicly fund elections, end lobbying >end government communication with TV media, make indirect moves to kill television",,Anonymous,tests3.jpg,DvRPTwfO1bGc0hqsNKSyPg==,US,,1486570532 111703704,111727244,2017-02-08 16:15:35,">>111726924 Why are YOU assuming that I supported my government on their Jewish lead proxy wars?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486570535 111703704,111727287,2017-02-08 16:15:57,">haha yeah like all sides are wrong man >centrist """"""""""philosophy""""""""""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486570557 111703704,111727451,2017-02-08 16:17:10,">>111727240 Tips fedora",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486570630 111703704,111727654,2017-02-08 16:18:38,">>111708994 Everything he says is tru tho",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486570718 111703704,111728202,2017-02-08 16:22:40,">>111706868 Adolf Hitler",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486570960 111703704,111728467,2017-02-08 16:24:38,">>111725652 >Centrism is about looking at both sides to find the path society needs to take forward instead of posting memes about how (otherside) is a mental disorder and we would have utopia if our team had permanent rule. Yeah, I sincerely think the world needs a movement like this. One of the problems is the ""centrism"" - maybe in the US, but it seems to fit a lot with the EU and stuff - kind of becomes associated with this mushy, PR, usually corporate-friendly, spineless upholding of the status quo. ""Rhetorical radical centrism""? I dunno, but we need that kind of Haidt-style 'not everyone is evil' stuff you're describing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486571078 111703704,111728536,2017-02-08 16:25:16,">>111727287 Most of us tend to think that its more likely that all sides are right.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486571116 111703704,111728561,2017-02-08 16:25:30,"Centrists are passive, cuckolded lesser men. A centrist is indecisive, he can't or won't think for himself because he doesn't like making choices. The centrist is your average, low IQ middle class piece of shit. Fuck you if you're a centrist, at least if you were a communist you'd display more backbone",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486571130 111703704,111728650,2017-02-08 16:26:09,>>111703704,,Anonymous,1486177812128.jpg,b6YpOv3JGFn9+fGDRDVbEw==,GB,,1486571169 111703704,111728678,2017-02-08 16:26:20,">>111703704 FUCK YEAH RADICAL CENTRISM",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486571180 111703704,111728824,2017-02-08 16:27:27,">>111728561 What a hysteric and completely pointless piece of rhetoric. All fallacies and no argument at all. If anything the best argument to remain a centrist is not to grow into a babbling retard like yourself.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486571247 111703704,111728834,2017-02-08 16:27:31,">>111703704 >viewing politics two dimensionally t ethno fascist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486571251 111703704,111728876,2017-02-08 16:27:55,RATE?,,Anonymous,IMG_1373.png,jERD24wnAgRe/UNYOVqyBg==,US,,1486571275 111703704,111728979,2017-02-08 16:28:44,">>111726065 But everything is the question ""What is?""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486571324 111703704,111729021,2017-02-08 16:29:06,">>111728876 how can you even compete>>111718628",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486571346 111703704,111729042,2017-02-08 16:29:17,>>111703704,,Anonymous,1474358609683.jpg,1prSDOzwTKr9HVpl3jQOWQ==,CL,,1486571357 111703704,111729154,2017-02-08 16:30:04,">>111728824 You don't need evidence when you're refilled as I am kid",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486571404 111703704,111729162,2017-02-08 16:30:10,">>111727240 spekr is a shitty test made by libertarians to try to pull people into right-libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486571410 111703704,111729268,2017-02-08 16:30:57,">>111727240 MBTI is a meme in terms of personality as well. You might as well post your horoscope. Take the big 5 personality test instead.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486571457 111703704,111729498,2017-02-08 16:32:45,">>111729042 This is what you people don't understand: being a centrist isn't about agreeing on nothing or staying neutral on everything. Rather it hinges on the principles that all extremes of the political spectrum have valuable ideologies that can be adapted into positions that are very well defined and solid.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486571565 111703704,111729503,2017-02-08 16:32:46,">>111728467 We don't need centrist parties, we just need people voicing against partisanship and helping people understand their biases. Very important with the uprising of social media and internet news feeding into both sides becoming echo chambers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486571566 111703704,111729633,2017-02-08 16:33:40,">>111728979 cut the semantics morality is everything in which we have any say over, all our decisions, certainly all our politics",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486571620 111703704,111729697,2017-02-08 16:34:02,"I think Destiny making joke out of alt-lites and lefties should be included in the OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvNSho7gY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osaN9IU6ahs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxGJ67VXGXI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhYXZtCaSng https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMHAl74JthI",,Anonymous,656.jpg,y83QidYQtUfz7JurY0N3WA==,MA,,1486571642 111703704,111729827,2017-02-08 16:34:59,">>111729042 >>111728561 >>111727287 >Don't read the thread >heh you guys think you know the right way well actually I know the right way >you guys are retards for thinking you are the right way >???????????? >Don't profit pls no strawman",,Anonymous,1470915903451.gif,77sNtIhtLceZ48abWLPvfg==,CA,,1486571699 111703704,111730138,2017-02-08 16:37:15,">>111729498 >all extremes of the political spectrum have valuable ideologies that can be adapted into positions that are very well defined and solid. oh no the fuck they dont. green and red square are fucked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486571835 111703704,111730531,2017-02-08 16:40:23,">>111726947 Social Conservatism is great. Be weary of ""right"" economics that tend towards the free market in extreme. Many of our problems have been caused by too many dollars and not enough god.",,Designated CENTRIST?,,,GB,,1486572023 111703704,111730535,2017-02-08 16:40:24,">>111730138 Not really. It is very important to for example, maintain a degree of attention and care for the environment, lest we end up like China with only a polluted shithole to defend and call our own. I also believe it's important to empower the workers with a cultural sense of community and unity, without stifling the growth of business and suffocating taxation, but also ending corporate exploitation.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486572024 111703704,111730558,2017-02-08 16:40:35,">>111729633 Am I being trolled? That anon said everything = morals which is just not true Everything >""What is this?"" >It's a wooden table Morality >This is a wooden table >""Is it right to have a wooden table?""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486572035 111703704,111730866,2017-02-08 16:42:53,">>111728834 How many dimensions should it have? How would you display the range of political beliefs?",,Anonymous,1475202853181.jpg,0CmzadeoE3UEPVsa7YvM7Q==,CA,,1486572173 111703704,111731078,2017-02-08 16:44:28,"My beliefs: Cradle to Grave Social Safety Net for All /Citizens/ - with caveats - maximum of two children while on welfare -- with exception grant on case-by-case basis (parents super healthy and smart, maximizing their reproductive years before going back to work) -- the economic depression, wealth disparity, and unemployment rate means that not only is it unfair to enforce 'zero children' while on welfare, it might plummet national birth rate. Two is a reasonable number. -- Above two children, limit cash benefit, increase monitoring by Child Services - if they cannot provide for children, take children away - they shouldn't be having that many. LIMIT IMMIGRATION: - All states and city should have a veto power over who settles there. -- All immigrants, until archiving landed status, should stay where they have been permitted to stay - no city hopping. This prevent overcrowding. - Apply values test - Accept refugees on a limited basis, recognize that true refugee (the Yazydis girls who have been kept as sex slaves) might not be productive for years, if ever, so don't be the crazy cat lady like Justin Trudeau, accept so much Syrian, expect that they will work after 1 year! Accept small number - don't mix charity with business. STOP Affirmative Action: I'm asian and a woman, I would trust asian women doctors less if I found out that they were hired by affirmative action. My first encounter with AA was in highschool when I was told not to worried about trying hard to make the chess tournament since I was the only girl in the club - that made me feel terrible! AA is the participation trophy of the adult world with deadlier consequences. If certain minorities are falling behind because they are poor, provide financial support - to EVERYONE poor! White male poors shouldn't be left out.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486572268 111703704,111731137,2017-02-08 16:44:56,">>111729697 No way. Destiny doesn't give any value to opposing people constantly shouting them down and strawmanning them. The three people I will give for the OP are: Jordan Peterson Jonathon Haidt Scott ""dilberman"" Adams",,Anonymous,1.png,bgmyDbSCThoCG9PXGTliHw==,CA,,1486572296 111703704,111731275,2017-02-08 16:45:47,">>111726947 >my hatred for the left increases Be wary of your resentment anon. Don't let the monster within take you over.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486572347 111703704,111731412,2017-02-08 16:46:46,"he may be a commie but it's a good quote. neoliberalism must die",,Designated CENTRIST?,1459803613769.png,R8sCmdoLcwhXfsJzScLzXw==,GB,,1486572406 111703704,111731537,2017-02-08 16:47:33,">>111731078 >maximizing their reproductive years before going back to work) ...and, for Ontario, the majority of welfare recipients actually ARE working - but there either aren't given enough hours, or even though, there is not enough paid. Where a couple is quality people, scientists for example, who are temporary poor because their sector has dried up for the moment, they should be paid to have and raise more smart children. North America needs something like Singapore's Housing Development Board so we stop having subways surrounded by rich low density development of people who underuse the subways, while major arteries are clogged with people driving and bussing in from far away.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486572453 111703704,111731815,2017-02-08 16:49:21,">>111730535 Even beyond the fact of this being good ideas, it's also necessary for understanding how policy will impact people. i.e. Haidt has argued, pretty convincingly, that large amounts of immigration will trigger (lol) authoritarian-leaning individuals. You don't need to make any value judgments here to understand that this is a relevant consideration if, say, you're a European leader during the migrant crisis. However, if even consideration of such a concept would be shot down under PC considerations, and the policy is implemented - well shit, you may have a bit of a problem on your hands politically. (this one is a left-wing example but there's plenty on the right too)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486572561 111703704,111731823,2017-02-08 16:49:24,">>111731078 >STOP Affirmative Action Doesn't Affirmative Action generally work against Asians even more than it does Whites? >welfare I think you buy into the people abuse welfare idea too hard.",,Anonymous,1475810894808.jpg,HOHanDmlx+ZwGL2ROhwEYw==,CA,,1486572564 111703704,111732029,2017-02-08 16:50:50,">>111731078 >Cradle to Grave Social Safety Net for All /Citizens/ - with caveats That's a key concept I'm also a firm believer of. Being on welfare should also come with lots of obligations and responsibilities.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486572650 111703704,111732115,2017-02-08 16:51:20,">>111731412 though to clarify, when i interpret ""the american way of life"", i take it as the sort of consumer culture that's spread around. Being British, and looking at past Britain, I can feel it quite intensely. Obviously some pure ""American way of life"" is fine for Americans. Even for Americans I would make the case that the American way of life got derailed in the 70s in many ways (much of the social revolution of the 60s only really hit home in the 70s, at least in the UK - i assume the same in the USA, and it's also the decade where Apollo program died and NASA got massive funding cuts, Breton Woods collapsed and the oil price hike made the entire west think the world was ending.) So it's still something that's got to be recovered - the American way of life being outsourced now is in many ways the worst parts, with none of the good parts coming with it.",,Designated CENTRIST?,1483810179722.png,6RVlE/Zy7c7S1atdAJAIdw==,GB,,1486572680 111703704,111732285,2017-02-08 16:52:27,">>111731815 Politicians need to realize that we need periods of limited immigration to allow assimilation. In the past immigration happened as a boom and then a period of low immigration allowing people to assimilate. A good example is the eastern European migration in the early 20th century to Canada where they were resented by the native Canadians to a degree but now they are lumped in with all the ""evil whiteys"". The current system with mass migration from all around the Asian continent is dividing the Nation too much.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486572747 111703704,111732855,2017-02-08 16:56:09,">>111731823 Affirmative Action, from what I read on its effects in US is: it pushes Asian AND White candidates in favour of Blacks for college admission. This cheats the Asian and White students. The graduation rate for blacks however, remain the same. In the chess example, you could say I benefit from affirmative action, except for the fact that my self-esteem took a hit, I made sure to practice every lunch leading up to the tournament, but I feel like there is a shadow of doubt over my ability, that I was one of the top 5 as oppose to the best girl. Do you know how insulting it is? To only be the the best...of your category? It's like, you are pretty smart...for a girl. You're pretty smart...for a black. This is what affirmative action does in selective hiring and qualification, not based on the ""content of our character"", it robs everyone! Chien-Shiung Wu was a Chinese-American experimental physicist who was born 1912, she earned her place and knows it, everyone knows it. In those days, I heard white men could trust minority hires even more, knowing that, if this individual overcame the barriers, they are even better then the white male competitors. But now it's opposite. Now it's fool's gold.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486572969 111703704,111733314,2017-02-08 16:59:09,">>111703704 >Not welcome: fascists Fascists are literally radical centrists, you fucking doofus.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486573149 111703704,111733457,2017-02-08 17:00:13,What do you call this? Would I atleast fall under Centrism?,,Anonymous,Political Chart Full.png,4Ux4jeEW8s9/v9DX7ZSE/g==,US,,1486573213 111703704,111733501,2017-02-08 17:00:31,"Why do people constantly feel the need to align themselves with a label of sole group? Any decent, rational thinking person would organize their beliefs according to factual and historical evidence without the need to ascribe a label to themselves. When you label yourself and try to fit into a group you are taking on an ideology, which may or may not have a basis in factual information. For example as a libertarian or a progressive, you identify with an ideology, not a logical conclusion based of fact, and often these ideologies fall flat in the face of evidence, and often ignore obvious and basic facts of reality because of the blinders put down by an ideology. An ideology cannot change, it cannot be molded by the truth like an idea or argument can be. I think it's just foolish and the be quite frank lazy. It's often the person that fancies themselves as an intellectual, to an ideology, they are really a lazy pseudointellectual.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486573231 111703704,111733655,2017-02-08 17:01:28,">>111703704 >Radical centrist >No fascists allowed >National (right) >Socialist (left) What did op mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486573288 111703704,111733676,2017-02-08 17:01:35,">>111732029 I don't believe in drug-testing or means testing or /forcing/ people to volunteer or look for work. I believe that the majority of people want to work want to help, or volunteering wouldn't even exist, and that we do more harm than good by making welfare too restrictive to our /citizens/. The only iron-clad restriction I would place on welfare is: Citizen-only - Britain was screwed over after entering EU because migrants flooded into a welfare-generous state. The other is a limit of children to two, with exceptions granted on case-by-case basis that has merits beyond 'compassion' -- e.g. family has a family business that benefits the state. I think US have a problem like Detroit and Ferguson, because you reward unfit single parents for having kids after kids after kids, 15, 17! ""Somebody's got to pay for all of my kids!"" If children had been limited to two, the problem wouldn't have expanded to take over whole cities! Especially when you consider that they tend to shoot and kill each other.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486573295 111703704,111733878,2017-02-08 17:02:54,Aight fellow centrists. What are some of your opinions that /pol/ wpuld not agree with?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486573374 111703704,111733896,2017-02-08 17:03:02,">>111732855 Hiring women is a poor choice regardless of talent",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486573382 111703704,111734037,2017-02-08 17:04:01,">>111733896 >>rk9",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486573441 111703704,111734133,2017-02-08 17:04:43,">>111703704 >Radical_centrism So natsoc right?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486573483 111703704,111734145,2017-02-08 17:04:48,">>111732855 I understand and agree with you, I was more addressing your statement that would are un-trusting of an Asian female doctor. >>111733655 Fascism is authoritarian center. This thread is about Center-centrist look here >>111730866 We are the white hat.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486573488 111703704,111734439,2017-02-08 17:06:56,>tfw to intelligent to have opinions,,Anonymous,,,JP,,1486573616 111703704,111734496,2017-02-08 17:07:14,">>111706952 It's police bias, but the police aren't wrong in being biased. The urban black culture we've created through redlining and white flight are a haven for criminals. No one wants to work as a cop where cops get killed so all the less competent cops get told to clean up the streets because there is a problem, but in order to fill quotas the cops grab kids and toss em in jail for petty offences. The solution would be to reform the inner cities, starting with education.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486573634 111703704,111734546,2017-02-08 17:07:31,">>111733457 Obviously yes you seem like a centrist. Drop the MBTI personality test and replace it with big 5 personality traits. Drop spekr because it has a libertarian bias. Add Haidt's moral foundations test to help understand what you are biased towards.",,Anonymous,sketch1472579587784.png,8VuEHIeORuCMM+oZWzP7fw==,CA,,1486573651 111703704,111734589,2017-02-08 17:07:53,">>111733896 No, not really.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486573673 111703704,111735180,2017-02-08 17:12:29,">>111734496 >The solution would be to reform the inner cities, starting with education. Fixing single mother hood (over 70% for blacks) would be great but I think we might never be able to fix it. Bringing back Darwinian education where the people that fail are allowed to fail instead of pushing everyone through could be good. The current system with no child left behind and now common core just drags everyone down, it doesn't lift up the bottom performers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486573949 111703704,111735238,2017-02-08 17:12:50,"Whats up with shit like ""race war""? Cant you people realise that (((they))) are pulling a good ol devide and conquer on the world? Also not all of (((them))) are harmful, only the ritch ones and the ultraortodox shitfest.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1486573970 111703704,111735702,2017-02-08 17:16:08,">>111735238 >Whats up with shit like ""race war""? Shitposting combined with resentment and some legitimate people that want to see the world burn",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486574168 111703704,111735848,2017-02-08 17:17:07,">>111703704 >Radical Moderate Whattafag",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486574227 111703704,111736209,2017-02-08 17:19:48,">>111733878 For starters the jews *are* white, thats an objective biological fact.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1486574388 111703704,111736217,2017-02-08 17:19:51,">>111733878 >centrist >opinions lol",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486574391 111703704,111736436,2017-02-08 17:21:30,">>111736209 [ashkenazi] Jews are [of roughly European descent]. ""white"" is not particularly well defined.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486574490 111703704,111736492,2017-02-08 17:22:07,">>111733501 Im not sure but the ""right"" and ""left"" are outdated",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1486574527 111703704,111736571,2017-02-08 17:22:44,">>111703704 This doesn't even make any sense. A ""radical centrist"" by definition would be right wing right now because right wing are the reactionary party, wanting things to stay the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486574564 111703704,111736711,2017-02-08 17:23:41,">>111736492 This is true seeing as Monarchy is pretty much just a tourist attraction at this point. However, this is not to say there are no, nor should there be, sides to politics. Certain ideas are mutually exclusive.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486574621 111703704,111736722,2017-02-08 17:23:48,">>111733878 I think empowering and giving women the possibility of choosing whatever career path they want without any sort of indoctrination to either becoming radical feminists or subservient house-wives is a good thing.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486574628 111703704,111736773,2017-02-08 17:24:13,I'm a Tory and I'm a Zionist.,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1486574653 111703704,111736906,2017-02-08 17:25:11,">>111736722 Not possible unless they were to be lobotomised and raised in a vacuum.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486574711 111703704,111736910,2017-02-08 17:25:14,">>111706952 >Blacks are the only problem worth addressing",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486574714 111703704,111737023,2017-02-08 17:26:03,">>111736209 Depends how you define white man. Previously White in america meant WASP so the Irish and Italians were discriminated against. If you define white as just white skin OK If you define white as European ancestry OK then Ashkenazi Jews are white If you define White as European Christians then Jewish descendant people would be excluded but not Atheists or non-Christians that are descendant from Christian populations.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486574763 111703704,111737035,2017-02-08 17:26:08,">>111736906 Would you mind elaborating?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486574768 111703704,111737061,2017-02-08 17:26:21,fuck politics lmao,,Anonymous,,,CO,,1486574781 111703704,111737217,2017-02-08 17:27:36,">>111736722 I think we push women towards careers to hard. Leaves a lot of them wondering where they went wrong because they don't prioritize starting a family which for most women eventually they realize is what they really want.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486574856 111703704,111737337,2017-02-08 17:28:36,">>111737035 Sure. For a start, the housewife role is instinctual. Gender roles evolved. Also, they are not strapped to a chair and brainwashed ""clockwork orange"" style. Their opinions are a product of the society in which they were raised. To neutralise both would require a lobotomy (to get rid of the instinctual part) and to be raised in a vacuum (so as not to be influenced by their peers).",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486574916 111703704,111737719,2017-02-08 17:31:31,">>111737337 I think you are misunderstanding his argument. He isn't against housewives he just disagrees with the people that think we need to revert to the early 1900's with them almost always being homemakers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486575091 111703704,111737972,2017-02-08 17:33:27,">>111703704 >radical centrist general >fascists not welcome",,Anonymous,tmp_27961-1452793116208245072115.png,u3cltfLTNX+8NR2PlyTR0A==,US,,1486575207 111703704,111738032,2017-02-08 17:33:54,">>111737719 He said without any ""indoctrination"". Part of that is in-born. The rest is a product of their peers.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486575234 111703704,111738266,2017-02-08 17:35:34,">>111737217 >for most women eventually they realize is what they really want. But then some women should never be a mother, example: my mother. She rue and lament giving up being a career women. Just no pressure either way, empower. I actually want to be a housewife, with the option of an outside career AFTER the children is grown, the problem with my wants is: a) The economy made getting by on a single income impossible for most. b) too risky if husband is abusive or DIES I think especially in cases where the husband dies or was physically abusive, a stay-at-home mom should be given enough to stay at home till her children are 14 (no longer need babysitter).",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486575334 111703704,111738278,2017-02-08 17:35:43,">>111703704 >Muh middle ground Fence sitting faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486575343 111703704,111738519,2017-02-08 17:37:23,">>111717903 I think that within social ideologies there isn't any way to define moderatism without a scope of time frame. Economic ideology possesses more of a degree of immutable moderate values-- i.e. in between full state control and no state control. Am I a moderate socially? Depends what time period we are talking about. Fiscally I am almost reguardless of time period (unless the time is before the concept of state-control/centrally planned and free market economics).",,Anonymous,image.jpg,l6Y1G/oqU3F06qzZ8jM1Ng==,US,,1486575443 111703704,111738555,2017-02-08 17:37:39,So many plebs on the (((left))) and (((right))).,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486575459 111703704,111738729,2017-02-08 17:38:45,">>111738278 politics are not a fucking lawn with the houses. both left and right are flawed and dying a long and painful death. painful for us at least.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1486575525 111703704,111738784,2017-02-08 17:39:05,"I think women should have the option to work but it shouldn't be glamorized and industry shouldn't have to make it any easier for them. Only exceptional, dedicated women should make it and if an employer doesn't want to risk hiring a woman who may get preggo and retire early it should be in their power to not hire them on those grounds.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486575545 111703704,111738934,2017-02-08 17:40:11,">>111737061 columbia you russian federation ass looking flag but instead of white its yellow wtf is wrong wit you mang its unbelieveable someone could be this amazingly retarded fuck you",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486575611 111703704,111739259,2017-02-08 17:42:29,">>111738784 Even back in the bad old days women *could* work. It just wasn't touted as some kind of empowerment exercise aimed at destroying the family ideal. Instead they did it when that dynamic broke down, out of necessity.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486575749 111703704,111739271,2017-02-08 17:42:27,">>111738519 >phone picture of your screen",,Anonymous,1477342505751.jpg,hftOvrGJV4IwLmXhDKMJYw==,CA,,1486575747 111703704,111739306,2017-02-08 17:42:45,">>111738784 >industry shouldn't have to make it any easier for them easier? why? is this even a thing? i think it should be enough if they are doing it as good as men.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1486575765 111703704,111739406,2017-02-08 17:43:29,">>111703704 I like this lets keep doing it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486575809 111703704,111739783,2017-02-08 17:46:18,">>111739306 It is a thing, because they can't do it as well as men.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486575978 111703704,111739795,2017-02-08 17:46:21,">>111739306 It's not that women are worse, they are just the ONLY ones who can have children. Also mothers raise children better then fathers so fuck the Le Stay at Home Father meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486575981 111703704,111740142,2017-02-08 17:48:57,">>111703704 Great thread! Some UK friends and I are having brewskies and wanted to make something based on what we read here. Got more?",,Anonymous,moretoadd.jpg,HMdhju4wedbLbjZ+r+SfIg==,ES,,1486576137 111703704,111740470,2017-02-08 17:51:17,">>111739783 With that logic we shouldn't allow low IQ men to enter the workfield and instead replace them with higher IQ women. If we're talking about true merit.",,Anonymous,qbxNInO.gif,ekJ7oSjRSTSploPysfOHRg==,ES,,1486576277 111703704,111740643,2017-02-08 17:52:37,">>111740470 Not all work requires brainpower. Low IQ men are already excluded from fields that require it, simply by the fact that they can't do it.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486576357 111703704,111740749,2017-02-08 17:53:24,">>111722070 >>111705091 >When you're not smart enough to be the second George Lincoln Rockwell",,Anonymous,not smart enough.png,vkFoh6VYc2561eazIru7uw==,US,,1486576404 111703704,111740758,2017-02-08 17:53:29,">>111740142 >Manifesto >Doesn't believe in manifestos",,Anonymous,1486356288641.jpg,7EmIG/1y0fFj9m9rPGDgtA==,CA,,1486576409 111703704,111741228,2017-02-08 17:57:14,>>111703704,,Anonymous,1486578235985.png,vDO4X8MKqpWnppoKKQFADA==,CA,,1486576634 111703704,111742030,2017-02-08 18:03:02,">>111740643 That's true now. Previously the talent pool was almost halved and companies would settle with lesser brains. Women to this day don't make up any substantial % of engineers and scientists. But those who do fill in nicely for their male counterparts. Seems based enough to me. I feel bad for the largely disappearing low IQ jobs for men. Automation hit us harder than women. And the graph before shows why. The reason you don't see a lot of female Einsteins is the same reason you don't see females chimping out as much. Less smart... But also less dumb...",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486576982 111703704,111742055,2017-02-08 18:03:17,">>111734439 Ideology* We have opinions we are just not willing to take it all or leave it all. /pol/ would be so much better if it included all political spectrums rather than the mess it is now with /leftypol/ growing to be an other echo chamber full of positive feedback of it's own.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1486576997 111703704,111743485,2017-02-08 18:14:27,">>111742030 >Women to this day don't make up any substantial % of engineers and scientists. But those who do fill in nicely for their male counterparts. Seems based enough to me. False, due to quotas. Here's an analogy: You have a class of 100 prospective engineers. 10 women, 90 men. The workforce is looking to hire 20 people. Some governing body says that you have to try to hire more women because muh patriarchy. So they hire the 10 best men and ALL the women, no matter their marks. So you have 10 A+ honours students on the male side, and maybe 1 on the female - the rest ranging from average to shockingly shit. Your previous graph illustrates this further. For STEM we are not dealing with the whole population, we are dealing with the very right hand edge of that graph - in which men absolutely crush women. It's all very well to say to women ""you can be whatever you want to be"", however the reality is that this is simply a lie. It's a lie for most men too, but as a man you are easily an order of magnitude more likely to be able to hack it, and if we are looking for THE BEST in these fields, with no preferences other than that, then any women there would be like finding a unicorn.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486577667 111703704,111743724,2017-02-08 18:16:18,">>111741228 do u ever get bored",,Anonymous,5feRBH8.jpg,1/LrxBT7rMfaPt0kDBI2fA==,US,,1486577778 111703704,111745282,2017-02-08 18:27:40,">>111717903 where does kekism fits is here?",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1486578460 111837370,111837370,2017-02-09 09:40:21,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General pt. 2,Anonymous,Centrism.jpg,08mCgqQRMEDjSBPB33ntGQ==,GB,,1486633221 111837370,111837870,2017-02-09 09:45:36,">>111837370 So we already know that emotions take place in the brain, seems like the best route based on your picture symbolism is right wing.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1486633536 111837370,111838371,2017-02-09 09:50:39,">>111837370 >Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc.",,Anonymous,1484416158280.jpg,w/o85mBOZvrnjlF8EdyTPA==,RU,,1486633839 111837370,111838458,2017-02-09 09:51:38,">>111837370 good goy",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486633898 111837370,111838557,2017-02-09 09:52:44,">>111837370 >not welcome >anyone who disagrees Fascist.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1486633964 111837370,111838679,2017-02-09 09:54:06,Gas Jews Niggers Go Back To Picking Cotton Poo In The Loo Pajeet,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486634046 111837370,111838758,2017-02-09 09:54:52,Yeah only if the left used their own money to save the world. But that would take more effort than making a Facebook post with a France flag.,,Anonymous,,,FI,,1486634092 111837370,111839006,2017-02-09 09:57:32,">>111837870 >>111838371 >>111838458 >>111838557 >>111838679 >>111838758 Serious discussion only please Or else...",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486634252 111837370,111839026,2017-02-09 09:57:45,"Centrism is a meme. If you live in a country where the left wing country dominates politics, media or culture, center is by definition left wing.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1486634265 111837370,111839079,2017-02-09 09:58:19,"Centrism is a meme. Embrace the light (Right wing, conservatism, traditionalism etc.) or the darkness (Left wing, SJW, Marxism, Nihilism).",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486634299 111837370,111839093,2017-02-09 09:58:32,>>111837370,,Anonymous,IMG_2135.jpg,ZLUQK/HPISPPcaK4C51cPg==,US,,1486634312 111837370,111839308,2017-02-09 10:00:45,">>111839006 Here's a serious discussion. Stop trying to label/band everything. Radical ANYTHING is bad. And there ARE centrist organizations- you DONT need to create on with terrible terrible sources I mean Jesus Christ a Wikipedia of ""radical centrist""? How old are you 4?. Grow up and read some chapter books. You're clogging up the feed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486634445 111837370,111839543,2017-02-09 10:03:06,">>111839006 or else what?",,Anonymous,65434564324.png,919nul1lZm4vCRwFewKUcA==,RU,,1486634586 111837370,111840633,2017-02-09 10:14:08,">>111839006 or fucking wot m8 try to do something ull get bonked on the forehead",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486635248 111837370,111840676,2017-02-09 10:14:37,>>111837370,,Anonymous,radical centrist.png,xSu665oDLeIrpOuQa2hE6A==,LT,,1486635277 111837370,111840776,2017-02-09 10:15:40,">>111840676 Upvoted and gifted 4chanddit gold",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486635340 111837370,111840830,2017-02-09 10:16:20,">>111839308 What evidence do you have he ""tr[ies] to label/band everything"" ? Even ultra-moderate radical centrist agorist libertarian anarchy? Your ""chapter books"", whatever they are, will COMPLETELY mislead you on the meaning of what I just described. You're about to vomit. Who said there aren't centrist organizations? And what the flying fuck is your problem with the wikipedia page for radical centrism? Go ahead, say something with merit. Back that up without being a fucking cumstain. You're acting two. Clogging up what feed? How? OH NO YOU JUST HAD TO COMMENT HUH",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486635380 111837370,111841353,2017-02-09 10:21:51,">>111837370 Sage faggot op",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486635711 111837370,111841546,2017-02-09 10:23:37,">>111841353 child",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486635817 111837370,111841580,2017-02-09 10:24:01,">>111840830 Hahahahahahahah Nice try Hahahahahaha Seriously tho Fuck off shill. Radical centrism is as autistic as the alt right. If you don't see this you're either dumb or working for shariablue Get hit by a train bro",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486635841 111837370,111841850,2017-02-09 10:26:35,"Admirable thread OP, considering how many retards who think in terms of right and left are on this board though you won't have much luck. In fact I find it extremely difficult to find a place of discussion that doesn't ""lean"" one way or the other on the false 2D political spectrum. Wish you the best but Pol is not the place for this kind of discussion, neither is reddit. 420chan desu is the best imo because most right/left ideologies don't survive your first intense trip or serious deep meditation. t. an Anarcho-Perennialist ""gray pill""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486635995 111837370,111842057,2017-02-09 10:28:37,">>111841850 Pick a side",,Anonymous,IMG_1934.png,/zB9WjXa7S67XGyOHREm6Q==,US,,1486636117 111837370,111842357,2017-02-09 10:31:42,">>111842057 Nah cunt I'll let you right wing larpers fight with the left wing larpers til you both kill each other, you do realize both sides are being played off against each other right? You do realize Pol is an echo chamber the same way reddit is?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486636302 111837370,111842792,2017-02-09 10:35:57,>>111842357,,Anonymous,1485558257833.png,NzZ1WMl/J9t/BcGEKmceHQ==,RU,,1486636557 111837370,111842888,2017-02-09 10:36:49,">>111837370 Radical Centrist here. do we have a chance guis?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486636609 111837370,111843111,2017-02-09 10:38:45,">>111842792 Nodda argament sergei",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486636725 111837370,111843299,2017-02-09 10:40:35,">>111837370 Are radical centrists faggots who came to civic nationalism after everyone with an ounce of sense realised ethnic national was the only way.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486636835 111837370,111843359,2017-02-09 10:41:09,">>111841580 i suppose expecting something less idiotic out of you is out of the question...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486636869 111837370,111843456,2017-02-09 10:42:03,">>111842888 my trips say we DO have a chance. inb4 samefag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486636923 111837370,111843464,2017-02-09 10:42:08,">>111842888 STOP IT CTR",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486636928 111837370,111843546,2017-02-09 10:42:52,">>111843464 i'm not CTR. i'm just saying stop making shit up about hillary",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486636972 111837370,111843637,2017-02-09 10:43:42,">>111843359 Fight fire with fire when your trying to napalm austists out of /pol/ This britbong is just priming us for ""justice democrats"" It's dumb to fully engage with them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486637022 111837370,111843654,2017-02-09 10:43:54,">>111843111 > You do realize Pol is an echo chamber the same way reddit is? THIS >>111843546 >i'm just saying stop making shit up about hillary THIS",,Anonymous,765434534.jpg,7qCfWgV7xSZ2mmDAXclMQA==,RU,,1486637034 111837370,111843799,2017-02-09 10:45:05,">>111842888 We're the only ones who ever stood half a chance.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486637105 111837370,111844148,2017-02-09 10:48:26,">>111839006 nigger are you trying to imply that radical centralism is to be taken seriously?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486637306 111837370,111844433,2017-02-09 10:51:11,">>111844148 are you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486637471 111837370,111844668,2017-02-09 10:53:23,">>111837370 i thought that radical centrist is an authoritarian centrist such as a natsoc wtf i hate fascism now",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1486637603 111837370,111844695,2017-02-09 10:53:38,">>111837370 Well that's an oxymoron if I ever heard one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486637618 111837370,111844847,2017-02-09 10:55:01,">>111837370 Did shills fail with their far left/ commie thread spam and now are trying another tactic? Because this smells like turbo shilling to me",,Anonymous,1481065128059.jpg,rHo0GoqPtsDp/LH7w8xRNA==,IE,,1486637701 111837370,111844858,2017-02-09 10:55:06,">>111837370 Yes that is called being neutral ask Switzerland if it works",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1486637706 111837370,111844938,2017-02-09 10:55:51,">>111837370 could you explain what a radical centrist believes or do you just not believe in anything really hard?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486637751 111837370,111845064,2017-02-09 10:57:00,">>111837370 Lol, you got your labels backwards and radical centrist makes no sense.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486637820 111837370,111845543,2017-02-09 11:01:43,">>111844938 we're so ultra fucking medium on every goddamn thing you aren't sure whether to respect our balance or hate our smugness.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486638103 111837370,111845877,2017-02-09 11:04:37,>giving a shit about feelings,,Anonymous,15823037_1182442381824418_5599263400729967625_n.jpg,nJbaV1Y+67qlbZgsHJvKHw==,US,,1486638277 111837370,111848075,2017-02-09 11:24:09,">>111845877 >being this autistic people are generally irrational",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486639449 111990374,111990374,2017-02-10 09:00:39,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General pt. 3,Anonymous,centrist.png,/ImEzRsKIGdD6NyTz33cGQ==,GB,,1486717239 111990374,111990632,2017-02-10 09:04:04,"How can you be a radical centrist? Centrism points to something between two extremes, whereas radicalism points to either the extremes surrounding the centre.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1486717444 111990374,111990861,2017-02-10 09:07:00,">>111990632 Shhh, understanding the meaning is too hard for General thread autists.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1486717620 111990374,111991086,2017-02-10 09:09:47,">>111990632 >>111990861 delet",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1486717787 111990374,111991145,2017-02-10 09:10:34,">>111990374 Stealers Wheel General?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486717834 111990374,111991218,2017-02-10 09:11:28,">>111990374 sage",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486717888 111990374,111991291,2017-02-10 09:12:18,">the most sustained period of peace and prosperity in human history More like the calm before the storm",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486717938 111990374,111991337,2017-02-10 09:12:51,"Is ""Radical Centrist"" a re-labelling of traditional liberalism because the SJW in bed with Democrats in the US, have made the right call those ""liberals"" (instead of progressives / regressives) ?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486717971 111990374,111991466,2017-02-10 09:14:44,">>111990374 Who else radical Jeb supporter here? I'm not ready to die for the cause, and I care just enough to write this one post. Who else guac comfy?",,Anonymous,image.jpg,HSEquV33r6ELsvBN8Vciww==,US,,1486718084 111990374,111991487,2017-02-10 09:15:00,">middle gound wew lad I think op has 50% autism",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1486718100 111990374,111991558,2017-02-10 09:15:38,">>111990374 >cuthroat national and international politics >having to negotiate tough issues across with ruthless leaders and dictators and come out on top. >kind centrist party This is why libtards will always get ass raped and why you should never listen to what they say.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486718138 111990374,111991574,2017-02-10 09:15:45,">>111991291 This >Lead country to the stoop of destruction >""Holy fuck we need a go getter, someone who isn't going to wait for this shit to happen"" >""HA, LOOK IT WAS BECAUSE WE PICKED SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T APATHETICALLY LAZE AROUND THAT THIS HAPPENED""",,Anonymous,Smoking maki.jpg,bjlrC6Sf2N+VbO1DMMrpNA==,US,,1486718145 111990374,111991653,2017-02-10 09:16:44,">>111990374 >sustained peace That's not what I would call the invasion of two middle eastern countries and the constant threat of terror attacks >Prosperity Because of right wing economics.",,Anonymous,1420243686406.jpg,ZiRsjmTqYtCYETFD9DlLDQ==,GB,,1486718204 111990374,111991719,2017-02-10 09:17:36,">>111991337 Both parties in the US are right-leaning. Democrats are just more center-right than their Republican counterparts.",,Anonymous,,,BS,,1486718256 111990374,111991738,2017-02-10 09:17:49,Is this centrist enough?,,Anonymous,SmartSelectImage_2017-02-07-00-09-27.png,0vgBEAgL17fZZROFrhbLkg==,US,,1486718269 111990374,111991765,2017-02-10 09:18:10,"> GUYS WE HAVE TO TAKE IN 1 MILLION MUSLIMS INSTEAD OF 2 MILLION!!!! garbage",,Anonymous,,,PA,,1486718290 111990374,111991771,2017-02-10 09:18:12,">implying monarchy isn't better than democracy Fucking plebs",,Anonymous,,,LI,,1486718292 111990374,111991824,2017-02-10 09:18:53,">>111991771 > tfw one of your princes married one of our niggers monarchy is overrated",,Anonymous,,,PA,,1486718333 111990374,111991955,2017-02-10 09:20:20,">>111990374 I am happy to be centrist... After all remnants of leftism btfo forever",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486718420 111990374,111991982,2017-02-10 09:20:43,is Sargon a radical centrist?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486718443 111990374,111992024,2017-02-10 09:21:15,">>111990632 You can't. It's an appeal to move things back to the left since the right is actually making progress now. Sad and pathetic that it has to be veiled in centrist vernacular, but there it is. >just like believe everything the good intellectuals and normies believe This is what the DNC believes will actually work, Sad!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486718475 111990374,111992028,2017-02-10 09:21:19,">>111991738 Far right",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486718479 111990374,111992081,2017-02-10 09:21:54,">>111990374 Posting the first and last thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486718514 111990374,111992129,2017-02-10 09:22:25,this is literally the most autistic thing i have ever seen in my life please fucking kill yourself,,Anonymous,,,US,,1486718545 111990374,111992132,2017-02-10 09:22:26,">>111991824 No one gives a fuck about what the princess who won't inherit the throne do",,Anonymous,,,LI,,1486718546 111990374,111992229,2017-02-10 09:23:36,">>111990374 If you don't want to remove kebab you have to go back to Plebbit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486718616 111990374,111992607,2017-02-10 09:27:41,"Liberals: we want to take $100.00 from everyone Conservative no way you'll take nothing Centrist: I am the only ration one here come let us compromise we shall only take $50.00 from every one Liberals: I agree and will compromise Conservatives: wait that is not a compromise at all Liberals: I want to take $50.00 more dollars from everyone Conservatives: OH FUCK NO Centrists: now we have had this discussion before we will compromise at $50.00 Liberals: OK Conservatives:....",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486718861 111990374,111992760,2017-02-10 09:29:40,What makes a man turn neutral? A lust for gold?Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?,,Anonymous,736.gif,YgiohmiGox4k8sSUEGOXIA==,US,,1486718980 111990374,111992936,2017-02-10 09:31:48,As an independent voter this party sounds like it will suit me perfectly. I agree with policies on both the right and left. Since I'm too lazy to do any of my own research I'll just vote centrist instead :^),,Anonymous,IMG_0929.jpg,TWWk6fe6BwL7AgYUOq248Q==,US,,1486719108 111990374,111992965,2017-02-10 09:32:02,">>111991466 h-heyyy n-nice numbers jeb is 4 life",,Anonymous,cuckold.jpg,RDr7DyqrL791ZcTOmB/kew==,CA,,1486719122 111990374,111993402,2017-02-10 09:36:52,">>111992607 >Liberals: we want to take $100.00 from everyone >Conservatives: no, you give us $100.00 >Centrists: status quo it is problem solved lrn2 make deals",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1486719412 111990374,111993579,2017-02-10 09:38:55,Radical Centrism for life.,,Anonymous,18ft_Banner_Pi_6.jpg,7geSUIUWmB4UUz12l3Z71g==,GR,,1486719535 111990374,111993623,2017-02-10 09:39:28,">>111990374 CLOWNS TO THE WEST OF ME, JOKERS TO THE EAST BUT AUSTRO-HUNGARY'S MY MATE",,Anonymous,eradicate.jpg,87l4GWw1kL4tQb8cK6elMw==,GB,,1486719568 111990374,111993731,2017-02-10 09:40:38,">>111992760 best character on futurama along with the professor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486719638 111990374,111993889,2017-02-10 09:42:22,">>111991337 This. Keep in mind Bill Clinton in the 90's made a speech on illegal immigration that was exactly the position that Trump has based his 'far right' campaign on. The axis has slid left, these 'centrists' are just liberals.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1486719742 111990374,111994239,2017-02-10 09:46:21,">patiently waiting for a centrist party He already has one. It's called both major parties of every two-party system in the developed world.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486719981 111990374,111994406,2017-02-10 09:48:10,">>111991738 >>111990374 >tfw too smart to be slightly off centered",,Anonymous,C3_KtrVWQAAPofy.jpg,htIuHgPv8EnzELWkCjNPyA==,AR,,1486720090 111990374,111994543,2017-02-10 09:49:50,">>111990374 >General Kys desu senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486720190 111990374,111994565,2017-02-10 09:50:08,"""Centrist"" is codeword for white liberal cuckold that is too pussy to join his comrades in the far left.",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1486720208 111990374,111994655,2017-02-10 09:51:04,">>111994406 Do you have a less compressed copy of that image?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1486720264 111990374,111994899,2017-02-10 09:54:07,">>111990632 Hmm I'd argue that the ""radical"" title in this context represents the will and belief in the ideas. Just because you believe the truth is somewhere in the middle doesnt mean you believe in it with any less conviction.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486720447 111990374,111995183,2017-02-10 09:57:20,">>111990374 Centrism is silent globalism they pretend balanced but quietly push to the left.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1486720640 111990374,111995414,2017-02-10 09:59:39,>>111994406,,Anonymous,1486738090653.jpg,n/6RhcgGkpbm5rrM+hcsIg==,DE,,1486720779 111990374,111996068,2017-02-10 10:06:19,">>111993402 >taxation is theft problem solved lrn2 ideals",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486721179 111990374,111996101,2017-02-10 10:06:38,">>111990374 The murder rate in the US is still no where near as low as it was prior to the 1910s Nobody has any honor anymore Everybody is mad and waiting for a spark Yea, good job",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486721198 111990374,111996310,2017-02-10 10:08:45,">>111996101 >Nobody has any honor anymore >honor nigga u gay put le fedora down, son",,Anonymous,,,US,,1486721325 112604787,112604787,2017-02-14 12:12:05,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,1475960278539.jpg,gEVcOh8d8yd9YyQDloEOXw==,MA,,1487074325 112604787,112604897,2017-02-14 12:13:03,>>112604787,,Anonymous,1464803621995.jpg,ObUyD/LXRtMw3clLG1uLTw==,US,,1487074383 112604787,112604914,2017-02-14 12:13:13,">>112604787 Do you mean bogpilled?",,Anonymous,bogpilled.png,vMxYa3jNqI6Fdwb6AuJRSQ==,CA,,1487074393 112604787,112604998,2017-02-14 12:13:58,>>112604787,,Anonymous,centrist.jpg,FI2nDSuN54rJIicoBmoncQ==,IL,,1487074438 112604787,112605337,2017-02-14 12:16:59,">>112604897 Hurr durr if you're not an /r/donald 2016 arrival who spouts muh national socialism and trump overlord you're a shill or baiting. >>112604998 >I can't judge issues independently of one an other so I'll just pick whatever ideology thrown at me first then learn to argue it better while strawmanning everything else. I'd be a Muslim then.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487074619 112604787,112605674,2017-02-14 12:19:53,">>112604787 >radical kill yourself. moderate master race.",,Anonymous,78854821.jpg,VrhrLw7Q+bPQfcFVIaYilw==,US,,1487074793 112604787,112605676,2017-02-14 12:19:57,">>112605337 >i don't have any consistent set of principles or a coherent world view >whether something should be done or not depends entirely on my feelings at the moment and my shaky speculations about the potential outcome",,Anonymous,1476540933228.jpg,4BXzQ8zVzMatMyRK5KmeUg==,IL,,1487074797 112604787,112605827,2017-02-14 12:21:08,Explain to me how you can be radical and a centrist at the same time,,Anonymous,,,US,,1487074868 112604787,112605977,2017-02-14 12:22:30,">>112605676 >whether something should be done or not depends entirely on my feelings at the moment and my shaky speculations about the potential outcome t. /pol/ don't forget to buy Milo's book and donate to Lauren's patreon.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487074950 112604787,112605990,2017-02-14 12:22:40,">>112604787 > le radically non radical xd",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1487074960 112604787,112606342,2017-02-14 12:25:41,">>112605977 Literally not an argument. Since you seem to disagree with my assessment of ""centrism"", please explain to me what your basic principles are.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487075141 112604787,112606425,2017-02-14 12:26:25,">>112604787 tfw to intelligent to have opinions",,Anonymous,16403216_1624254450925099_2821614781090145876_o.jpg,XBOpIOpm4QmnJUU0HWKdGQ==,CA,,1487075185 112604787,112606728,2017-02-14 12:29:30,I remember being a teenager.,,Anonymous,1467472746423.png,/X1B/oRUfauQ6wCSQ6/puQ==,US,,1487075370 112604787,112606834,2017-02-14 12:30:29,">>112605676 No schomolo. Tere isnt Right or wrong. Black or White. They all are one. These fishes arent eating each others, they are dancing together. Nothing matters, there is no cause and effect. Everything is as right as it is wrong. Also ring wing and left wing are circle, Not line.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1487075429 112604787,112607256,2017-02-14 12:34:13,">>112606834 >mfw he really thinks he said something that has a meaning",,Anonymous,topmost-kek.jpg,NPahsXJH9caSG9eLR1HfIQ==,IL,,1487075653 112604787,112607531,2017-02-14 12:36:38,"left vs right was a mistake little kids who know nothing about politics pick a ""side"" and fight one another. It's like sports teams, they actually think it's all about winning and losing",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487075798 112604787,112607840,2017-02-14 12:39:31,">>112607256 This kike is right.",,Anonymous,1483533865970.jpg,wASfrJqkbhInZMqf/IEUHQ==,ES,,1487075971 112604787,112607851,2017-02-14 12:39:37,"I mean, other than the global institutions bit, how is ""radical"" centrism different than, say, fascism? I mean, if you believe in the holohoax, understand that modern fascists don't want that anyway, so as far as the rest of the actual policies it seems we're all on board with this. Now, fascism was just one example, who other than the progressives disagree with these things? The ""radical"" ideas of the ""radical"" centrists are just the ideas that moderate leftists all the way to the vast majority of conservatives, both up and down on the political spectrum agree with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487075977 112604787,112607905,2017-02-14 12:39:58,">>112607531 Well, no. Little kids who know nothing about politics complain about there being distinct world views based on opposing basic premises, because they can't fathom the idea that something that feels right or sounds good could go completely against someone's values.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487075998 112604787,112607927,2017-02-14 12:40:12,">>112607531 Left and right is a meme. Third position is the best position.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487076012 112604787,112608041,2017-02-14 12:41:03,">>112607927 What is this ""third position"" based on, exactly? Your feelings?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487076063 112604787,112608069,2017-02-14 12:41:19,">>112607927 t h i r d w a y",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487076079 112604787,112608143,2017-02-14 12:41:53,">>112608041 Nah, it's not wanting open borders while not renouncing to gas you.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487076113 112604787,112608318,2017-02-14 12:43:35,">>112608143 What does that have to do with left vs. right?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487076215 112604787,112608493,2017-02-14 12:45:18,">>112608041 You can deny it if you want but everyones political opinions are based on their feelings. Being a centrist essentially means you decide on each issue where you take your stance. Rather than listening to the hivemind and following your master >Israel flag >trying to push values that divide nations why am I not surprised",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487076318 112604787,112608678,2017-02-14 12:46:56,">>112604998 Reminder that MS Paint comics aren't a real argumentative strategy",,Anonymous,1487017223625.png,9/5WXT/XrAGOqLb9isehCQ==,LB,,1487076416 112604787,112608732,2017-02-14 12:47:24,">>112608493 >everyones political opinions are based on their feelings Don't project your retardation onto everybody else. >Being a centrist essentially means you decide on each issue where you take your stance. Like I said, being a centrist essentially means you decide on each issue based on your arbitrary whims rather than any consistent values and principles. Everything you're saying just confirms this.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487076444 112604787,112608793,2017-02-14 12:47:50,">>112608318 It's right wing cultural policies with left wing economy policies. Basically another name for fascism/natsoc. It can't be considered left or right.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487076470 112604787,112608901,2017-02-14 12:48:44,">>112608678 Reminder that every centrist in this thread so far has confirmed my argument that centrism is based on arbitrary whims rather than a consistent world view or set of principles. Reminder that your opinion about politics belongs in the same category as your opinion about ice cream flavors because there's nothing concrete behind it.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487076524 112604787,112608963,2017-02-14 12:49:14,">>112608678 Nice argument you've made there.",,Anonymous,1484081240271.jpg,baBX2GH9x0BEBn0aLFr8oA==,ES,,1487076554 112604787,112609121,2017-02-14 12:50:45,">>112608793 What does that even mean?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487076645 112604787,112609353,2017-02-14 12:52:48,Centrism is akin to being asexual,,Anonymous,,,SG,,1487076768 112604787,112609542,2017-02-14 12:54:37,">>112608901 >because there's nothing concrete behind it. Wrong again. The foundations of centricism are the to provide a bettering for all mankind while selecting principles from ideologies of both ends of the political spectrum to benefit everyone, thus ending the retarded conflicts that keep rifting apart our world. I'm fucking tired of both sides' bullshit. Both ideologies have been imllemented by the elite to rule over the sheep-like brainlets who constantly keep shifting sides in order to profit from them.",,Anonymous,,,LB,,1487076877 112604787,112609627,2017-02-14 12:55:27,">>112608732 >he has independent thoughts someone stop him! I have values and principles, everyone does. I lean left on some issues and right on others and I don't intend to limit myself by sticking to one side and listening to everything my overlords tell me. Sorry juden but your tricks aren't going to work on me",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487076927 112604787,112609701,2017-02-14 12:56:00,">>112609542 Sorry for spelling errors, my fingies are yuge",,Anonymous,,,LB,,1487076960 112604787,112609726,2017-02-14 12:56:15,">>112609121 Preserve tradition and culture while keeping your hands away from our shekels and prevent you from exploiting our poeple.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487076975 112604787,112609894,2017-02-14 12:57:44,">>112609542 >provide a bettering for all mankind while selecting principles from ideologies of both ends Yes, like I said, centrism is all about your arbitrary whims with regard to what serves the ""betterment of all mankind"". You don't have any consistent set of principles, as demonstrated by the repeated failure of you and your buddies to name any principles that help you determine whether something works for ""the betterment of all mankind or not"". Literally all you have is vague handwaving and your retarded smugness.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487077064 112604787,112609941,2017-02-14 12:58:11,">>112609353 >when you have zero arguments",,Anonymous,1484302409472.png,yU0CCFR7m3uOt9iiojSuCQ==,LB,,1487077091 112604787,112610025,2017-02-14 12:58:50,Pussies,,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077130 112604787,112610047,2017-02-14 12:59:01,">>112609627 >i have values and principles >i just fail to name any, just like every other centrist in this thread >btw muh joooz! muh jooz! >t. centrist ""intellectual""",,Anonymous,pepe-retard.jpg,k1LeLpB+bDKTwCXSuB8/Lg==,IL,,1487077141 112604787,112610116,2017-02-14 12:59:37,">>112609941 >a fucking Christmas tree You should submit to Hezbollah",,Anonymous,,,SG,,1487077177 112604787,112610127,2017-02-14 12:59:41,">>112609627 It just means you're a faggot You can't deport all muslims and then shake hands and want world peace brit bong That's not how the world works For every action there is a consequence",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077181 112604787,112610190,2017-02-14 13:00:19,">>112609726 So again, no consistent set of values or principles. Let's see how many times centrists in this thread do their little handwaving routine instead of providing anything concrete.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487077219 112604787,112610335,2017-02-14 13:01:40,">>112610127 I don't want to deport all muslims, mostly because there aren't any in my country. World peace would be nice though",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487077300 112604787,112610343,2017-02-14 13:01:42,">>112609894 I literally have shifted Left to Right over the course of 3 years anon. I agree with principles from both ends. Why is that so repulsive to you? Is the only solution to kill myslef then?",,Anonymous,,,LB,,1487077302 112604787,112610359,2017-02-14 13:01:51,">>112604787 Is the radical centrist intended to look like a Farnsworth?",,Anonymous,farnsnude.png,UV2p9bh1cVhrxjAyj4ZHLQ==,US,,1487077311 112604787,112610433,2017-02-14 13:02:34,"I consider myself centrist The fuck is the difference between centrist and radical centrist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077354 112604787,112610456,2017-02-14 13:02:44,">>112608901 I'm guessing your going to nay say everything anyone says, and I don't know why I'm about to post on pol, but for me it's like this. I have a set of principles (do the least amount of harm to the population, promote intelligence and learned lifestyles, and then protect those who can't protect themselves. Treat all others as equal until proven otherwise on a person to person basis.) Then I just pick my position on an issue based around that. I don't like massive immigration, but I can deal with documented immigration. I like capitalism and believe it's essential for progress but safety nets and the taxation that come with it are the best way to raise people out of poverty which increases a societies productiveness. Some left and some right policies make sense But c'mon, if you can't admit that someone's morals and principles aren't based on their emotions, which then extend to their political leanings you deeply misunderstand what it is to be human.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077364 112604787,112610564,2017-02-14 13:03:44,">>112610116 Wew. Fucking again. Did you even read that brilliant Anime Pyramid chart anon?",,Anonymous,,,LB,,1487077424 112604787,112610581,2017-02-14 13:03:51,">>112604914 OK That's was funny",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487077431 112604787,112610591,2017-02-14 13:03:54,">>112610190 I'm not centrist, I'm natsoc and I have firm principles and would die for them. Now fuck off kike and let all those reddit shills circle jerk with themselves if that's what they like to do in their spare time.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487077434 112604787,112610623,2017-02-14 13:04:14,">>112610343 > I agree with principles from both ends. Oh, look. Vague handwaving again. I challenge literally any of the enlightened centrists in this thread to explain concretely what their principles are.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487077454 112604787,112610675,2017-02-14 13:04:41,">>112610335 >There aren't any in my country >Flag is that of the united kingdom Is this the power of Centrists?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077481 112604787,112610713,2017-02-14 13:05:01,">>112610591 >i have firm principles and i would die for them >i just can't tell you what they are Every. Single. Time. Like clockwork.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487077501 112604787,112610757,2017-02-14 13:05:27,">>112610433 Fucking this lel. The soul purpose of centrism is to avoid radicalism",,Anonymous,1482846326812.jpg,Oa+qLmQPmE0OXNBQwp2cdw==,LB,,1487077527 112604787,112610762,2017-02-14 13:05:28,">>112610564 >brilliant >Anime Pick 1",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487077528 112604787,112610837,2017-02-14 13:06:04,">>112609894 >>vague hand waving Almost like jewish tricks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077564 112604787,112611038,2017-02-14 13:07:44,">>112610623 >if you don't submit to either side that's trying to benefit of your weak-mindedness you're not principled and should off yourself lmao >inb4 concrete blah blah hand waving blah",,Anonymous,,,LB,,1487077664 112604787,112611092,2017-02-14 13:08:12,">>112610713 This guys right. Most centrists don't even care about principles when it comes to politics. It's why centrist governments never actually work, without clear principles then everything regarding policy becomes completely inconsistent. Centrist governments don't work because everything you do can somehow contradict something you've done in the past.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077692 112604787,112611600,2017-02-14 13:12:24,"Radical centrism is just as retarded as right wing/left wing You've adopted an ideology based on always following a happy median between two equally retarded ideologies. Ideology itself is the problem. Your beliefs should be based on careful research and critical thinking, not preordained from some arbitrary political spectrum. Labeling yourself a centrist is stupid because it pidgeonholes you to always side with the ""middle""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487077944 112604787,112611688,2017-02-14 13:13:13,">>112610623 >>112610713 what are you actually asking for? you want someone to run down every political issue and give their thoughts on it? Why don't you try asking something other than vague question you retarded kike",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487077993 112604787,112611895,2017-02-14 13:14:56,">>112611038 >benefit of your weak-mindedness I love when centrists say things like this. Centrists are always super arrogant and think they're above it all, but when you take a look at practically any government in the world, mostly all politicians are not centrists. Centrism is a joke. Not having concrete beliefs is why centrists aren't trusted to run governments. You barely even have an agenda and most of the time you don't even understand politics. Everything you believe in is a contradiction",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487078096 112604787,112611908,2017-02-14 13:15:00,">>112611092 >without clear principles then everything regarding policy becomes completely inconsistent. Centrist governments don't work because everything you do can somehow contradict something you've done in the past so... hillary clinton? >centrist governments never actually work they might just work in the future get everybody a mandatory app to vote on every single measure and decide amount of commitment before sunday 23:59 but for now, it's just way too cumbersome or not exactly centrist since a perfectly average ideology does not exist",,Anonymous,,,MY,,1487078100 112604787,112612467,2017-02-14 13:19:35,">>112610456 Literally none of your ""principles"" are principles. They don't provide any objective way to judge an action or a policy. >Least amount of harm This is based on your arbitrary whims about what's more harmful. >promoting intelligence Should people be forced by the government into study gulags if it served to ""promote intelligence""? >protect those who can't protect themselves Should I be required by law to risk my life trying to save a cripple from a gang of bandits? >Treat all others as equal until proven otherwise on a person to person basis Equal in what?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487078375 112604787,112612648,2017-02-14 13:20:51,">>112611092 What do you mean centrist governments don't work? Every single republican government functions thru compromise, which is the quintessential centrist mechanism. Hypothetically, a pure Left/Right wing government does not need to compromise because it is ideologically homogenous. A purely one sided government is strictly hypothetical tho because even single-party states grow factions even if they don't operate in the open.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487078451 112604787,112612690,2017-02-14 13:21:11,">>112611038 I didn't ask you to ""submit to one side"", you literal retard. I asked you to explain what your consistent set of principles is, but shockingly enough, you don't have any, because your political opinions are based on your arbitrary whims. Thanks for playing.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487078471 112604787,112612762,2017-02-14 13:21:44,">>112607927 this fuck (((communism))) and (((capitalism)))",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487078504 112604787,112613070,2017-02-14 13:24:14,">>112611908 Hillary Clinton is actually a pretty good example. She's basically a big government neo-con, she's nothing like the Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders fringe of the left wing. Hillary Clinton's views were completely arbitrary. And yeah I mean hypothetically we could say that maybe they would work in the future but the point is, they don't work right now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487078654 112604787,112613081,2017-02-14 13:24:17,">>112611688 >what are you actually asking for? you want someone to run down every political issue and give their thoughts on it? No. I want a list of concrete premises on which the centrist world view is based, so that one could judge unambiguously if a certain proposition (e.g. some government policy or action) is consistent with respect to those premises or not. Protip: a bunch of different people should be able to agree on the conclusion if they assume the premises to be correct and use valid logical deduction.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487078657 112604787,112613283,2017-02-14 13:25:52,">>112612648 They don't really function through a system of compromise, they function through a system of checks and balances. Basically all politicians are still huge ideologues though.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487078752 112604787,112613715,2017-02-14 13:29:21,">>112613081 You're still being pretty vague, I can't answer questions I don't understand. I'll give you an example of one of my personal beliefs; healthcare should be free at the point of access and available for all legal citizens If you want to ask about specific issue then I can oblige but I don't know if I can run down every value I have",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487078961 112604787,112613756,2017-02-14 13:29:42,">>112604787 What sort of centrism are we talking about here? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/middle-ground",,Anonymous,the-political-spectrum.png,1lQDtcSBgtJubjEOHgaLkA==,FI,,1487078982 112604787,112614228,2017-02-14 13:33:07,">>112613715 >You're still being pretty vague No, that was actually very concrete and specific, but I'm not surprised that a centrist can't comprehend it. >I'll give you an example of one of my personal beliefs; healthcare should be free at the point of access and available for all legal citizens Alright. Let's go with your example. How do you figure that healthcare should be free? State your basic premises and then show how this conclusion follows through logical deduction.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487079187 112604787,112614393,2017-02-14 13:34:15,">>112604787 If only I believed in labels I'd have found my niche today",,Anonymous,1484989975874.jpg,phtOqigI3p+4VuVaJbNsaA==,US,,1487079255 112604787,112614637,2017-02-14 13:36:05,">>112614228 >How do you figure that healthcare should be free? Is english your second language? I'm having trouble understanding what you're asking here. Do you mean ""why do I think that?"" or ""how is this achievable?""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487079365 112604787,112614644,2017-02-14 13:36:07,">>112613283 they function thru both Checks and balances are more about ensuring one branch of the government doesn't become tyrannical Compromise is how laws get passed. When you have multiple factions in a government (even in a single party state) as a lawmaker, you have to compromise parts of the law you want passed in order to get other congressmen on board. This system has been around since Rome, it's how every free legislative body today operates. The only way around this is a full dictatorship where a senate only exists in name and just carries out the will of the dictator to maintain the appearance of legitimacy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487079367 112604787,112614903,2017-02-14 13:38:02,">>112604998 >Israeli complains about centrism Boggs frowns upon you, you effectively take the best of benefits from far right zionists and the left international Jews",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487079482 112604787,112614971,2017-02-14 13:38:27,">>112613756 what the fuck is that graphic? >most of the world is libertarian >libertarians want welfare states",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487079507 112604787,112615164,2017-02-14 13:39:56,"Am I a centrist if I think we should have segregation, ban islam, institute single payer and support gay rights? Then maybe genocide niggers and create a min income. I seems like it sort of cancels each side out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487079596 112604787,112615263,2017-02-14 13:40:40,">>112614637 What the fuck? ""How do you figure"" means ""how do you come to that conclusion"".",,Anonymous,confused-pepe.png,Tpj4GrRBjHw4E1XUy668DA==,IL,,1487079640 112604787,112615430,2017-02-14 13:42:02,">>112608732 >Like I said, being a centrist essentially means you decide on each issue based on your arbitrary whims rather than any consistent values and principles. Everything you're saying just confirms this. No you decide on each issue based on it's merite, how are you not getting this? it's the opposite of feels > reals. On the other hand, left or right wing ideology forces you to blindly subscribe to every part of the ideology regardless of what the facts are. IE : me and Alex jones are on the same team as in we both support trump that means fuck the fact when it comes to all the stupid conspiracies he spouts.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487079722 112604787,112615667,2017-02-14 13:43:50,">>112613283 And as far as all politicians being ""ideologues"" I have to disagree. Some are, certainly. But nobody really believes that Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell, Tim Kaine, and Hillary Clinton are ideologues. These people are opportunists, as are most of our elective officials. This is why politicians with genuine beliefs stand out. Trump and Sanders were ""different"" because their supporters believed they really believed what they said. All but Clinton's most blind syncophants thought she was just an average politician and only voted for her because A. She's a woman, and B. They wanted to stop Trump.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487079830 112604787,112615724,2017-02-14 13:44:11,">>112604787 fuck your shit threads faggot",,Anonymous,1487092325698.png,RxeZ9yavEv1cNiLHuxaNGw==,US,,1487079851 112604787,112615881,2017-02-14 13:45:22,"wait, who gets to define where the political center lies?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1487079922 112604787,112616020,2017-02-14 13:46:41,">>112615430 >you decide on each issue based on it's merite Once again you are demonstrating why centrist political opinions are worthless. Everybody decides on each issue ""based on merit"". It's just that some people judge merit based on concrete principles, while others (centrists and other retards) judge merits based on their feelings and wild speculations.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487080001 112604787,112616235,2017-02-14 13:48:20,">>112606834 holy shit slovak scum confirmed for absolute worst balkanigger",,Anonymous,fatface.jpg,ZB+VCeCgcDIeUxp5kMrOCA==,US,,1487080100 112604787,112616760,2017-02-14 13:52:28,">>112610433 One gets you free bumps and keeps the thread alive.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487080348 112604787,112617018,2017-02-14 13:54:20,">>112610757 Not necessarily. Although 'militant' would be a better word, a radical centrist would just be a centrist that wants everyone and everything to be centrist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487080460 112604787,112617457,2017-02-14 13:57:32,">>112616020 Are you implying that principles are not derived from feelings then? How do you explain hardcore SJWs who want to genocide whites? Those people have principles as strong as your average stormfag. I'd argue that all principles/convictions are ultimately based on emotion derived from ones personal perspective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487080652 112604787,112618491,2017-02-14 14:04:51,">>112617457 >Are you implying that principles are not derived from feelings then? Principles are derived rationally from values. Values are intrinsic to the individual, but I wouldn't say that they are ""derived from feelings"". Feelings are temporary and fleeting. Values are not.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487081091 112604787,112619086,2017-02-14 14:09:20,">>112607851 Fascism is radically authoritarian economic centrism",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1487081360 112604787,112620186,2017-02-14 14:18:07,">the same memes of centrists don't have opinions HURR It'd be better to explain that you are moderate-right, OP. That's centrist on Spain and United States. The social aspect is not that important. It's quite simple actually. Conservative values and meritocracy. Education quality and opportunities to the poor. Illiteracy is what made USA get fucking cucked by the Clintons and their friends. Actually, America won't drop capitalism, it seems. Trump arrived just in time. ;^) The children here get triggered when there is someone they can't understand. Poverty and ignorance will always make politicians fuck you easily. It happens all around the world.",,Anonymous,34790gendernorms.jpg.png,sSg0WSLrVV8s1OF2ELp1hA==,ES,,1487081887 112604787,112620400,2017-02-14 14:19:51,"Israel I think the reason you're not getting what we are saying is maybe due to us having totally different philosophical views. You seem to think that there's a magic recipes to how we ought to govern ourselves as a society and we can discover it and totally take away any subjective values (whims as you call them) from the equation. Let's say : We discover a way to exactly predict the IQ and physical capabilities of a child in the womb and we can make reproduce them. Should we abort every baby below the threshhold of IQ and only allow the strong to live and reproduce or not? Why or why not? keep in mind I will keep asking why after every answer you provide until you say ""well I feel that this is better"" because that's where it ends up if you follow it down the rabit hole. tl;dr read Treatise on Human Nature and Geneology of Morals.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487081991 112604787,112620419,2017-02-14 14:20:02,">>112620186 Centrists have opinions. They just don't have any consistent values or principles to base their opinions on, so their opinions aren't worthy of discussion.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487082002 112604787,112620591,2017-02-14 14:21:26,">>112620419 >not consistent >next! Not an argument if you ask me. Maybe try with another one.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487082086 112604787,112621095,2017-02-14 14:25:39,">>112620400 >You seem to think that there's a magic recipes to how we ought to govern ourselves as a society and we can discover it and totally take away any subjective values (whims as you call them) from the equation. My problem with centrists isn't that their values are subjective. It's that they either don't have any values, or they don't have any concrete principles to objectively evaluate propositions with respect to their values in the face of uncertainties and personal biases.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487082339 112604787,112621303,2017-02-14 14:27:22,">>112618491 Feelings and Emotions are the same Values are still derived from emotions, but they are long lasting. Take Islam for example. As poisonous an ideology as that is, no one doubts that it's most radical adherents do not have values. These are also not fleeting, as a Jihadi never wakes up one day feeling ""hmmmm maybe I don't hate the west today"" The fleeting emotion I think you are referring to is impulse. People who base their political opinions on impulse aren't even centrists (for the most part, tho some centrists are), theyre more like the redditors that jumped on the ""alt-right"" train because it was edgy. My problem with Centrism is that it's just as much of an ideology as being left or right wing. They assume that the answer lies in the middle every time. Ideology is the problem. A true ideologue does not form his opinion based on new information. Every time he hears a new piece of info that contradicts his strongly held convictions, even if that information is 100% true, he will not change his mind because he is so deeply rooted in his ideology. To question even the most minute contradiction would cause his whole worldview to unravel. This is not to say that having principles is wrong. I'm saying that principles are not always rooted in fact. I have a very strong principle that 2+2 = 4. No amount of new information may change my mind because it is impossible for that to be proven wrong. However, some people have a very strong principle that they are a woman trapped in a man's body. This is not something that they just decided over night; they have held this deep conviction from a young age. It doesn't make that person's principle factually-based.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487082442 112604787,112621330,2017-02-14 14:27:36,">>112620591 You're right. It's not an argument. It's an observation, and so far no one in this thread seems to embody a counter-example to this observation.",,Anonymous,wat.jpg,dEXjin8OfLtmUinHmvBqcA==,IL,,1487082456 112604787,112621985,2017-02-14 14:33:14,">>112604787 >not welcome racists isn't it racist to not welcome people just because of their political believes? this isn't centrism, this is ""i'm retarded"" the thread",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1487082794 112604787,112622722,2017-02-14 14:39:34,">>112604787 Good god I just have to point this out >citing Mensa.org >As if Mensa has anything to do with your political opinions an isn't just a way to peacock your intellect Can you be any more pretentious OP? From now on whenever I make a ____ism General thread I'm going to post a link to my college transcript, not that it has anything to do with the discussion, I just wanna show 4chan how big my brain is :D:D:D",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487083174 112604787,112623023,2017-02-14 14:42:22,">>112621303 >Values are still derived from emotions By this logic, gravity is derived from rocks falling to the ground... Feelings simply help you figure out what your values are. For example, suppose that witnessing an injustice usually angers you, while delivering justice usually brings you satisfaction. After some basic self-reflection, you conclude that you value justice. Now suppose that you witness an injustice against someone you really hate, but instead of feeling anger all you feel schadenfreude. Let's suppose they are falsely accused of rape. If you were to simply follow your feelings, you'd be inclined to testify against them. If justice is an actual value to you, you would testify in their favor regardless of your feelings towards that individual, because you would realize that your bias against them is just distorting your perception of the situation. > Take Islam for example. As poisonous an ideology as that is, no one doubts that it's most radical adherents do not have values. I assume you meant that they do have values. Either way, what's your point?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487083342 112604787,112624107,2017-02-14 14:51:19,">>112621303 >This is not to say that having principles is wrong. I'm saying that principles are not always rooted in fact Why should they be ""rotted in fact""? The purpose of principles is to help one make consistent value judgments, not to evaluate the objective truth value of a proposition. Whether something is good/bad/right/wrong/acceptable/unacceptable is a completely separate issue from whether something is true or not.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487083879 112604787,112624149,2017-02-14 14:51:37,">country 1970 >developing country >poverty decreasing >education quality raising >populists arrive >waves of terrorism for 5 years >authoritarian gov gets rid of them >police can kill con protests >socdem party wins again >nothing changes except se are poorer >finally most people are ""redpilled"" about socialism >still ignorant and manipulable >(((right wing))) presidency >ignorant villagers Keep being exploited by foreigners for their lack of knowledge >I support this economic system, but Why don't we do the same educ reformes as Our neigh country? That would solve the actual poor conditions and the one-sided deals >You have no solid values Pathetic",,Anonymous,1477239870517.jpg,jH/mbkWWM0iqLvPG/eRI8Q==,ES,,1487083897 112604787,112624198,2017-02-14 14:52:00,">>112607927 >>112608069 >>112612762 My nignogs",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487083920 112604787,112624339,2017-02-14 14:53:10,">>112604998 Of course you would want people to pick a side and do eternal infighting, Mr Goldstein.",,Anonymous,O47Fwzc.png,PWatcJoCUX39mftQAL+K/w==,GB,,1487083990 112604787,112624349,2017-02-14 14:53:16,">>112623023 >feeling >Injustice >justice You're comparing social non quantifiable constructs to gravity? You feel anger not because justice is something that exists in the world and can be measured but because the socially constructed contract that you base your whole existance on has been breached. de-spook yourself. I'm not saying be an egoist but understand the difference between things that do exist and stories we tell ourselves so that our society can function and survive. we change the stories continually but that doesn't mean they become real.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487083996 112604787,112624369,2017-02-14 14:53:22,">>112604787 >le middle ground is always right maymay how can you have any intellectually honesty if your opinion keep changing the the swing of the overton window? at least commies are cosistent",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487084002 112604787,112624496,2017-02-14 14:54:29,"Right, right, since everybody's exposing their ideology I'll tell ya mine. It's all about being right. Every. Single. Time. Only speak up if you're absolutely certain you're right. If you think you might be wrong, come back when you're right. And if you happen to be wrong, apologize properly and retract you statements. Do that as many times as it takes, all for the sake of being right. Because being right and acting smug (or humblesmug) because of it is the best feeling in the world. Ironically enought, a lot of the right can be found within the left. At least I'm honest with myself.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1487084069 112604787,112624571,2017-02-14 14:55:11,">>112605676 damn, this jew just blew you the fuck out how will you ever recover",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487084111 112604787,112624751,2017-02-14 14:56:47,">>112607531 >they actually think it's all about winning and losing it is if my side wins, my life gets better if the other side wins, my life gets worse",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487084207 112604787,112624763,2017-02-14 14:56:51,">>112624369 Commies and Fascist are consistent at messing it up for everybody. We should keep doing that.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487084211 112604787,112624809,2017-02-14 14:57:15,">>112604787 10/10 for creativity and effort. 6/10 for baitability. This is a pretty good bait. It will grow stale soon, however.",,Anonymous,,,EE,,1487084235 112604787,112624934,2017-02-14 14:58:16,">>112624763 facists haven't been in power for 70 years, retard commies and you fucking moderates ruined everything",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487084296 112604787,112624975,2017-02-14 14:58:37,">>112604787 >Morocco Sandnigger",,Leaf Collection Officer,,,US,,1487084317 112604787,112625218,2017-02-14 15:00:37,">>112605827 I like to think of myself as a rational socialist. That, in and of itself, is pretty radical these days.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487084437 112604787,112625377,2017-02-14 15:01:59,,,Anonymous,ss+(2016-12-13+at+02.27.40).png,PdMe9xepKKt8v9pCoVnNvA==,US,,1487084519 112604787,112625410,2017-02-14 15:02:17,,,Anonymous,dfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf.png,WOCj9l30NfMXAvO/8lRGsA==,US,,1487084537 112604787,112625450,2017-02-14 15:02:35,,,Anonymous,ss+(2016-12-13+at+01.56.25).jpg,eRIU03L4uQ2RR2fzTclUdQ==,US,,1487084555 112604787,112625469,2017-02-14 15:02:48,">>112621330 Here's a value. The world is ever changing and with the emergence of new technologies affecting both markets and social structures, so too must our understanding of how we approach the business of government. A growing population means more elderly people who will detract from the economy. Those people requiring social security means that the youth are going to be working harder for less as their tax dollars are being spread apart more and more with each moment that a new old person retires. If you try to conserve the economic environment based on a world that existed 50 years ago, how will you actually be able to address any of the current predicaments society is facing without turning a blind eye to the reality around under the guise of 'muh values' when the values and principles you are touting are so supieror as a governing platform, are in themselves subjective?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487084568 112604787,112625478,2017-02-14 15:02:52,,,Anonymous,15741089_10207788360889423_1304382006454716446_n.jpg,vmrr9TBzC03RB4KfMUo3tw==,US,,1487084572 112604787,112625578,2017-02-14 15:03:48,">>112604787 Is trump a centrist?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487084628 112604787,112625579,2017-02-14 15:03:48,,,Anonymous,dddddddd.png,NNhOPzG1x5OyW7LpRGSFBw==,US,,1487084628 112604787,112625608,2017-02-14 15:04:06,">>112623023 That's a classic chicken or egg first conundrum, we could argue that all day and not get anywhere. But you're absolutely right, having justice as a value would lead you to take an unbiased approach in situations like the one you mentioned. It still doesn't refute my point that principles and values are not sometimes derived from emotion. A crazy feminist in this situation might testify against the person anyway and still claim that her decision was just and logical because according to her, men have historically oppressed women and deserve to be convicted of rape even when they are innocent. This probably isn't a fleeting feeling either; maybe it's one she's held for years after being molested by a family friend. Does that make her actions just? No. Does she still have very strong principles? Yes. I meat that islamists still have values. I'm a degenerate phone poster and it's hard to edit myself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487084646 112604787,112625632,2017-02-14 15:04:16,">>112625578 yes",,Anonymous,1481921516886.jpg,AcgnTjkhtEEFH+4Vb6qfUQ==,US,,1487084656 112604787,112625722,2017-02-14 15:05:11,,,Anonymous,dfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdfdf.png,Dpi+icQ0J+hMa651fdnrsg==,US,,1487084711 112604787,112625742,2017-02-14 15:05:21,">>112625632 Yes I knew it. SJWs and alt fags BTFO.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487084721 112604787,112625750,2017-02-14 15:05:24,">>112624751 nope, you lose every single time with ideology. how did the life of people who lived through a horrible war and pre/post WW2 autoritarian states get any better. >>112624934 Yeah I'm sure you'd rather be milked of hard labor in nazi germany and live an infernal misery rather than in prosperous soc-dem America because fuck le jooz muh mustard race.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487084724 112604787,112625807,2017-02-14 15:05:59,">>112625218 >rational >socialist",,Anonymous,1451126136883.png,mvHIFrurGb7rWlAXSLjdpQ==,TR,,1487084759 112604787,112625813,2017-02-14 15:06:02,,,Anonymous,1482380599919.png,X//BiiiMnURx5hOKez7ytw==,US,,1487084762 112604787,112625844,2017-02-14 15:06:18,">>112625578 Depends on who you ask. I'm sure Pinochet and other Sith Lords would think so but to Bernie Sanders he's fashy as it gets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487084778 112604787,112625896,2017-02-14 15:06:49,Why do you need a thread where no opinions are expressed or argued,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487084809 112604787,112625934,2017-02-14 15:07:05,">>112604787 Nick Clegg. you mean useless idiots. No thanks. It is not good enough to pick between two extremes you have to actually have values yourself. What form do things take? Pro democracy? What form? Why?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487084825 112604787,112625949,2017-02-14 15:07:15,,,Anonymous,1484090499207.png,2vCIRTPDPic+IO8uLjQ43g==,US,,1487084835 112604787,112625955,2017-02-14 15:07:18,">>112623023 >>Values are still derived from emotions >By this logic, gravity is derived from rocks falling to the ground Then you say emotions are derived from values. I can refute this by showing you a picture of a crying baby. >Feelings simply help you figure out what your values are A feeling is a physical thing, your values are not.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1487084838 112604787,112625957,2017-02-14 15:07:19,">>112625844 But Bernie is a literal commie so opinion disregarded.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487084839 112604787,112625998,2017-02-14 15:07:41,,,Anonymous,ss+(2016-12-12+at+10.31.39).jpg,tJ7EXre+LmLv5RTeDwFKjg==,US,,1487084861 112604787,112626155,2017-02-14 15:09:11,">>112624349 >hurr durr you can't compare similar aspects of different things because they're different Your failure to understand the comparison doesn't invalidate it. The point is that both cases involve observations from which a general rule can be inferred, and if it seems like something is suddenly violating this rule, you should first ask yourself whether there could be something superfluous distorting your perception. This applies to observations about one's own nature as well as it does to observations about external reality. >You feel anger ... because the socially constructed contract that you base your whole existance on has been breached Baseless projection.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487084951 112604787,112626301,2017-02-14 15:10:28,">>112625750 This. Although minorities shouldn't be over 5% in European countries and 10-15% in the USA, so people can preserve their genetic heritage which I consider one of the greatest gifts our ancestors gave us. (Whites, Asians, niggers etc. All of these should care for their gene pool)",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487085028 112604787,112626338,2017-02-14 15:10:52,">>112604787 Centrism does not exist. There is no middle ground on many issues. What are ""centrist"" positions on the following issues: Illegal immigrants Death penalty Gay Marriage Abortion Gun rights Free speech Global warming Affirmative Action Socialism or Capitalism Muslim Ban Here I put 10 issues. There is a clear left, and clear right position on all of these. As a centrist lets say you are 5 left, and 5 right. You are not going to agree with another centrist who has the other 5 right, and other 5 left. You are just a grape... watch the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhAJ2PL3_XY",,Anonymous,mrmiyagi.png,/pPi3eYZWSjtklyE5tq63g==,US,,1487085052 112604787,112626366,2017-02-14 15:11:07,">>112625955 >Then you say emotions are derived from values. You're literally lying. >I can refute this by showing you a picture of a crying baby. Really? What does it refute and how? >A feeling is a physical thing, your values are not. Completely irrelevant in the context of the point I was making. See >>112626155 a detailed explanation.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487085067 112604787,112626378,2017-02-14 15:11:13,If you are not against them you are with them.,,Anonymous,,,MX,,1487085073 112604787,112626560,2017-02-14 15:12:54,">>112626155 Show me where Justice, Morality physically existe. Why isn't there an universal view of justice and morals across regions and across time.",,Anonymous,untitled_400x400.jpg,ym1f0g74JJDM7mteY+vA/g==,MA,,1487085174 112604787,112626662,2017-02-14 15:13:45,">>112626366 >you should first ask yourself whether there could be something superfluous distorting your perception. This applies to observations about one's own nature as well as it does to observations about external reality. Except its completely impossible to be objective with ones own observation's, due to their subjective bias. Even conferring with ""people who know me rly well"" are gonna be distorted. The truth will most likely be somewhere in the centre....",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487085225 112604787,112626843,2017-02-14 15:15:26,">>112604914 bog is no pill and straight analpill",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1487085326 112604787,112626865,2017-02-14 15:15:36,">>112626662 *observations of self i should add.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487085336 112604787,112626955,2017-02-14 15:16:22,">>112625807 >2017 >Not understanding taxes Never change, /pol/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085382 112604787,112627023,2017-02-14 15:17:03,">>112625608 >That's a classic chicken or egg first conundrum, we could argue that all day and not get anywhere. Literally not an argument. It's a nonsensical assertion that doesn't address anything I said. >It still doesn't refute my point that principles and values are not sometimes derived from emotion. Not an argument. I've made the difference between values and emotions clear and you've already acknowledged it. >A crazy feminist in this situation might testify against the person anyway Then she is acting like a centrist. Either she does not actually value justice, or she does not have rational principles to guide her actions in such a way as to avoid injustice, or she does not follow her own principles consistently. >Does she still have very strong principles? Yes. Not with respect to the value of justice, obviously. Are you stupid? >I meat that islamists still have values. I'm sure some of them do. What's your point?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487085423 112604787,112627080,2017-02-14 15:17:33,">>112604787 Centrists should fucking kill themselves ""HURR I'M ACTUALLY LEFT LEANING BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY ARGUE WITH ME""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085453 112604787,112627202,2017-02-14 15:18:36,Filthy neutrals. Buncha cucks who'd fold like a child if Skippy screamed at them.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085516 112604787,112627335,2017-02-14 15:19:41,">>112626560 >Show me where Justice, Morality physically exist I never said they physically exist and you're not addressing anything I said. Literally not an argument. >Why isn't there an universal view of justice and morals across regions and across time. This is completely irrelevant. I wasn't talking about a ""universal view"" of anything. I was talking about being consistent with one's own values.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487085581 112604787,112627342,2017-02-14 15:19:46,">>112627080 ""HURR SOMEONE DOESN'T AGREE WITH ME, DAMN LIB'RALS!""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085586 112604787,112627401,2017-02-14 15:20:18,">>112607531 >they actually think it's all about winning and losing It is. And if we kill all leftists, everybody wins. Even the leftists, because if you kill them, they win.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1487085618 112604787,112627424,2017-02-14 15:20:28,">>112626338 >Illegal immigrants Stay on the other side of the wall >Death penalty Only if proved you're a serial killer and or terrorists >Gay Marriage Those fags shouldn't force society to accept their crap (they're free to do whatever they want in their homes or bars) >Abortion Children murders should be hanged, unless fetus has a very crippling disability or mothers life is in danger) >Gun rights Everyone has the right of self defence Although rules should apply. For example a prescription from a psychiatric saying you have no mental illness >Free speech Without it society collapses. It is essential. >Global warming Bunch of kike """"scientists"""" trying to earn some shekels since the end of the Cold War. The SJWs of science. >Affirmative Action Never. A nigger has the same rights as a white man, as the rich fag has the same rights as the poor fag >Socialism or Capitalism Middle (like in some European countries) >Muslim Ban God bless America",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487085628 112604787,112627512,2017-02-14 15:21:14,">>112627080 If that's your conception of radical centrism, you obviously haven't thought about it for very long.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487085674 112604787,112627551,2017-02-14 15:21:36,">>112626662 >Except its completely impossible to be objective with ones own observation's, due to their subjective bias. That's just a retarded and vague assertion that doesn't invalidate anything I said. >The truth will most likely be somewhere in the centre.... We're not talking about truth. We're talking about value judgments.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487085696 112604787,112627696,2017-02-14 15:22:44,">>112627342 ""HURR SOMEONE HAS AN OPINION THEY'RE FUCKING RETARDED NOW"" >>112627512 Fuck off leaf. Most ""centrists"" are just left wing leaning parasites who expect me to sit here and listen to their drivel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085764 112604787,112627721,2017-02-14 15:22:58,">>112626662 > The truth will most likely be somewhere in the centre.... The problem with this is that it assumes that opinions and other non-quantifiables which define political values exist on a spectrum. left-right is an imaginary binary to streamline all the different political philosophies to make it more easily digestible for the average joe. This is why centrism is absurd. Moreover, even if the spectrum DID exist outside our imaginations, of course every ""correct"" answer falls in the middle, because how do you define the most extreme left and right points? Is the most left position you can get that white people should just stop breeding and everyone should revert to a primitive tribal state where everyone worships trees and that all men should be enslaved for reproductive purposes? This is the most extreme position I could think up in two minutes but I guarantee you can come up with something more extreme. Where does it end?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085778 112604787,112627848,2017-02-14 15:24:03,">>112626560 while you are right that morality and justice are human creations, that does not make them unimportant certain moral codes are objectively more beneficial to the growth of a civilization than others. That's why western civilization was so successful and why it is that very moral foundation that the leftist cabal is attacking as we speak",,Anonymous,1440749037907.png,Fe2tnb0ZnBqoCXGtd2s+7g==,US,,1487085843 112604787,112627946,2017-02-14 15:24:56,">>112627342 Liberals and stormfront fags are two sides of the same coin. The first replies to your argument satin muh feelings, the others say muh Jews. Both of them retarded. Still would prefer stormfront friends because its easier to teach them how to use their brain. Although they're shit at dialectics they're right most of the times.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487085896 112604787,112628011,2017-02-14 15:25:25,">>112626560 As long as one aspect of Y is similar to that same aspect of X then the two can be said to be analogous, they don't have to be identical for a comparison to be made. The value of justice was compared to gravity because just as rocks falling are indicators that gravity exists and rocks falling aren't the cause of gravity, so does the arising of feelings serve as an indicator that a value exists, and feelings aren't the cause of the value.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487085925 112604787,112628060,2017-02-14 15:25:49,"ITT WAAAAAAAAAH WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH THING NOT BLACK AND WHITE ME NOT UNDERSTAND.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085949 112604787,112628123,2017-02-14 15:26:20,">>112627696 >""People should kill themselves if they think differently than me"" is an opinion You clearly have mastered listening to others impartially, sir.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487085980 112604787,112628155,2017-02-14 15:26:35,">>112626338 use the world average for everything Illegal immigrants: get out, amnesty if actually useful Death penalty: yes Gay Marriage: civil union, adoption yes Abortion: yes up to 2nd trimester Gun rights: no except job/ impossible for police to arrive in 10min Free speech: no Global warming: no bans, yes to green investments Affirmative Action: weakened Socialism or Capitalism: capitalism with welfare Muslim Ban: strict limit",,Anonymous,,,MY,,1487085995 112604787,112628185,2017-02-14 15:26:46,">>112628011 This guy gets it.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487086006 112604787,112628286,2017-02-14 15:27:33,">>112627946 >He seriously believes this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086053 112604787,112628309,2017-02-14 15:27:44,">>112628185 You have to be patient with the goyim.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487086064 112604787,112628394,2017-02-14 15:28:23,">>112604787 id rather be a someone who has a prejudice against groups of people than be someone who wants other people to fuck my wife so i can raise their kids",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086103 112604787,112628439,2017-02-14 15:28:41,">>112628123 Yes, the world isn't going to be run by a ""centrist"" government. You centrist fags have no endgame",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086121 112604787,112628476,2017-02-14 15:29:01,">>112628155 >free speech: no You realise you're as bad as a SJW right? Without free speech brexit could have never happened and trump would have never be elected",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487086141 112604787,112628511,2017-02-14 15:29:18,">>112627848 Of course, I worded the same thing although very poorly here. >>112624349 >I'm not saying be an egoist but understand the difference between things that do exist and stories we tell ourselves so that our society can function and survive. we change the stories continually but that doesn't mean they become real.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487086158 112604787,112628527,2017-02-14 15:29:24,">>112627424 You are on the far right >>112628155 You are on the far left",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086164 112604787,112628612,2017-02-14 15:30:09,">>112628060 Why do you hate nuances so much?",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487086209 112604787,112628686,2017-02-14 15:30:37,">>112628439 Not a centrist, just understand the concepts better than your average autist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086237 112604787,112628704,2017-02-14 15:30:46,">>112625807 >food analogies every time.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487086246 112604787,112628765,2017-02-14 15:31:13,">>112628476 If you love free speech, you’ll hate the world > World Press Freedom Index",,Anonymous,265836108_ac4a0a1876_z.jpg,2GyGu2yNlMl2LjfvD7TE1A==,MY,,1487086273 112604787,112628766,2017-02-14 15:31:14,">>112627721 >Non quantifiables exist on a spectrum >cite's imaginary spectrum No shit? Thats the entire point. As soon as you lose your reason and become obsessed with operating under your preferred ""streamlined political ideology"" you lose the flexibility to be LEGITIMATELY agile in future decisions that you and your fellow countrymen might have to deal with as a nation. Clearly left and right imaginary binary is working so well because the right is convinced that theres some sort of ethnic genocide going to take place, and the left(American left holy shit dont even get me started) feels like theyre being genocided, because people hate them all of a sudden(not true, just the platform to project said hatred has amplified), which in turn trigger's their personality completely devoid of substance bar identity association. Somewhere in the centre........ The only reason to go to extreme's either left or right is assuming you know more than the reasoned logician as to how to properly apply fiscal and social policy in the way thats best for all. Not fucking up the lives of 49% of your nation because 51% thought better of it than you did, i feel like that may actually begin the milking process, considering we know (((who))) has the bigger bankroll in this debate. tl;dr polarization increasingly radicalizes, centrist educated populations will always get btfo'd by (((agenda)))",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487086274 112604787,112628785,2017-02-14 15:31:23,">>112628527 Because? Remember that my positions are pretty moderate for the world 30 years ago. Nowadays everyone who doesn't like Ahmed's cock is a nazi.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487086283 112604787,112628840,2017-02-14 15:31:52,">>112628686 >not a centrist >all posts have been your faggot ass defending them Ok kid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086312 112604787,112628974,2017-02-14 15:32:51,">>112628765 >implying I care for third world countries Were discussing what's better for our society not theirs.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487086371 112604787,112629042,2017-02-14 15:33:24,">>112626155 Are you going to shout not an argument everytime you don't understand an answer? >>112628394 >Centrism is based on feeling and radicalism is based on facts",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487086404 112604787,112629069,2017-02-14 15:33:40,">>112628840 Maybe he's not a centrist just a contrarian.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487086420 112604787,112629122,2017-02-14 15:34:06,">>112629069 He's still a faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086446 112604787,112629236,2017-02-14 15:35:06,">>112628785 >Because? Remember that my positions are pretty moderate for the world 30 years ago. Nowadays everyone who doesn't like Ahmed's cock is a nazi. I'm not saying that I disagree with you. I share your opinion on most of those issues. Abortion should be legal for niggers, and spics, and sand niggers, but not whites, or asians unless it's a jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086506 112604787,112629344,2017-02-14 15:35:56,">>112625750 >prosperous soc-dem America heh",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1487086556 112604787,112629348,2017-02-14 15:35:57,">>112629122 I was setting it up for someone to reply asking what's the difference but you blew it.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487086557 112604787,112629414,2017-02-14 15:36:25,"Illegal immigrants- GTFO and come here legal Death penalty- yes Gay Marriage-yes just make it legal. more money to be made Abortion- 2 month cap w/ permission from both parties. Gun rights- Yes very legal please. Free speech- YES Global warming-Real Affirmative Action- Depends only if the govt continues incentives for business such as tax breaks to do so. Socialism or Capitalism- Capitalism Muslim Ban- Ban them till isis is eradicated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086585 112604787,112629421,2017-02-14 15:36:28,">>112609701 >fingers too fat to type >constantly distracted by correcting angle of fedora on cranium >can only respond with theoreticals You fit the stereotype to a T.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086588 112604787,112629434,2017-02-14 15:36:35,">>112608678 >Le Banon argument discarded",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086595 112604787,112629459,2017-02-14 15:36:51,">>112628974 whether you like it or not that's the centrist's stance also, you're losing... fast",,Anonymous,無題.png,XYoNOaA0j2bAhQyYKSvZmw==,MY,,1487086611 112604787,112629494,2017-02-14 15:37:07,">>112626338 Here is a Centrist reporting. Illegal Immigrants: Get Out. Borders are good. Death Penalty: Yes, with serious crimes Gay Marriage: Gas all faggots Abortion: Depends. I'm leaning to pro-life. Gun rights: Depends, there should be regulations. Free speech: Yes, but some regulations. Global Warming: I'm believing in changes, but not in an apocalypse. Affirmative Action: Nope. If you're in a country you should behave like a citizen of the country. If there is discrimination, you don't behave like it. Socialism/Capitalism: In between, some of both. Muslim ban: In Christian Regions, yeah. But I also respect Christian bans in Muslim Countries. Respect the borders. I think Trump and Putin are Centrist, too :P I like their politics until now.",,Anonymous,CentristOP.png,FkR+Vddf12hLXmQSIYABSg==,DE,,1487086627 112604787,112629520,2017-02-14 15:37:23,">>112609726 That would be conservatism in a nutshell. Stop giving it a different name because ""I'm so enlightened""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086643 112604787,112629559,2017-02-14 15:37:39,">>112629414 >>112628527 what would my view be? its above your response number I replied too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086659 112604787,112629578,2017-02-14 15:37:46,">>112627023 >presents argument HURR DURR NOT AN ARGUMENT >presents argument HURR DURR NOT AN ARGUMENT. Also please point out exactly where I said values and feelings are the same. How can you say she doesn't value justice? Sure it's her own personal skewed version of justice but maybe she adheres to it with more conviction than you do. I never said anything about her not being inconsistent. That's a straw man. Look Schlomo, I get that you don't care about having an intelligent conversation and that you just want to hurl ad hominems at people, but you at LEAST have to come up with better ones than ""are you stupid?"" Call me an amerishart, mongoloid, inbred low iq piece of shit not worthy of the lowest designated shitting mart, but come on... Stupid? I thought you Jews were supposed to be clever but I have to say you are really setting a poor example.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086666 112604787,112629579,2017-02-14 15:37:46,Am I doing it right?,,Anonymous,compass.jpg,CwUD82VE2zoz99ylqbt9vw==,US,,1487086666 112604787,112629686,2017-02-14 15:38:34,">>112605676 >my coherent, consistent worldview is that I am a liberal! >even though that term is constantly changing and expanding its definition to include more and more radical ideas >but don't worry! I believe anything my chosen agenda believes because altering my viewpoint would require keeping my finger on the pulse of society >plus, I wouldn't want to be called a CENTRIST or anything >people need to know I'm on a team--no matter what! Fuck off",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086714 112604787,112629935,2017-02-14 15:40:50,">>112628155 >adoption yes",,Anonymous,56.jpg,hoRB2AxDMeHijLUrWo8dWA==,CO,,1487086850 112604787,112630014,2017-02-14 15:41:25,">>112629042 Your ""answer"" doesn't actually address anything I said. You literally just lied that I was somehow implying that values are universal and have a physical existence. Pretty much what I expect from a centrist retard. Thanks for playing.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487086885 112604787,112630016,2017-02-14 15:41:25,">>112629459 Fucking Obama. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GAS THAT FUCKING MONKEY. that bastard triggers me as fuck.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487086885 112604787,112630047,2017-02-14 15:41:39,">>112629578 I mean I never said anything about her being inconsistent *fixed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487086899 112604787,112630106,2017-02-14 15:42:08,">>112629494 Link for villain test?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487086928 112604787,112630129,2017-02-14 15:42:21,">>112628612 But Burger was laughing at anti-centrists, Ahmed.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1487086941 112604787,112630313,2017-02-14 15:43:59,">>112630014 >You literally just lied that I was somehow implying that values are universal and have a physical existence. If you were not then why compare them to gravity insofar as we can measure and define it?",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487087039 112604787,112630390,2017-02-14 15:44:38,">>112629348 Sorry shlomo, I'll pay Holocaust reparations, my greatest ally",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487087078 112604787,112630543,2017-02-14 15:45:47,">>112630129 fug, my eyes glossed over the post but I didn't read the whole of it so I just assumed he said something like ""hurrr not everything black n white guiizzz"" to make fun of people who refuse to subscribe to an ideology.",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1487087147 112604787,112630585,2017-02-14 15:46:06,">>112630106 Here ya go, have fun: http://www.celebritytypes.com/villain/test.php Don't forget to hate germany. I'm not your typical german.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1487087166 112604787,112630693,2017-02-14 15:46:55,">>112630585 Ok thanks bro",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487087215 112604787,112630722,2017-02-14 15:47:12,">>112630585 >Self-hating >I'm not your typical german ImNotLikeTheOtherGirls.jpg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487087232 112604787,112630947,2017-02-14 15:49:05,">>112629935 Not sure what the outcomes are But we're scraping the bottom of the barrel here Orphanage kid < Fag parents kid I think",,Anonymous,idk.jpg,y217TzdQ/vgYePpal6w1mA==,MY,,1487087345 112604787,112631074,2017-02-14 15:50:03,,,Anonymous,1485496234109.jpg,O9n98yAcj9GFgw7SrbuVMA==,US,,1487087403 112604787,112631227,2017-02-14 15:51:29,">>112629578 >falsely claims that he has presented an argument Empty assertions like ""it's a chicken and egg problem"" are not arguments. >point out exactly where I said values and feelings are the same. I never said you said they were the same. I said that since you're unable to understand my point, we can just move on, as long as you acknowledge the difference between feeling a certain in a specific situation way and having values. >How can you say she doesn't value justice? Sure it's her own personal skewed version of justice Okay. Let's go along with your retarded theoretical example and assume she genuinely values collective justice, and that she is consistent about it and would still stand by it even when it's not in her favor. What's your point? >you just want to hurl ad hominems at people But you're lying. I think you're a moron, but I'm not saying you're wrong because you're a moron. I'm giving you detailed explanations for why you're wrong that you can try to refute.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487087489 112604787,112631314,2017-02-14 15:52:18,">>112629686 The reason why certain ideas and values tend to agglomerate together in typical patterns is not because all the proponents get their opinions from the same source, but because they share the same principles. If I know your opinion on one matter I can use it to predict your other opinions, assuming you're a principled person. You can say that those opinions come from the same source, but the common denominator is a principle which is held universally, not a chief commander telling you what to believe. For that reason centrists are accused of being unprincipled, because centrism can't be defined in any other way other than in relation to radical ideas, if you can't define centrism other than to say what isn't centrism, then it must mean that centrism has no tenants of it's own, so long as one isn't an extremist, no matter what nonsense they believe, they count as centrist, even if it contradicts what other centrists believe.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487087538 112604787,112631525,2017-02-14 15:54:10,">>112630313 >If you were not then why compare them to gravity Because they do have some aspects that can be compared, corporeality obviously not being one. This post explains it: >>112626155 And it does not imply or assume that values or universal or have physical existence at any point. Try again.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487087650 112604787,112631696,2017-02-14 15:55:39,">>112629686 >my coherent, consistent worldview is that I am a liberal! Why are you giving an inconsistent, incoherent worldview as an example? The fact that your chosen ideology is every bit as inconsistent as the average centrist doesn't really prove or disprove anything.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487087739 112604787,112631909,2017-02-14 15:57:29,">>112630722 Self-Hating? Naw. I fucking love myself and real civilised germans. Proud of my race, too. I'm just promoting hate for germans, because germany right now is run by Libtards. Merkel ruined everything and people are still voting for her and for Schulz. Maybe they will get it and decide to vote for others fractions, if they get hated by everyone. Still hoping.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1487087849 112604787,112631911,2017-02-14 15:57:30,">>112631696 holy fuck, how do you have the patience to argue with people this retarded?",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1487087850 112604787,112631956,2017-02-14 15:57:52,">>112631314 You're really good at this whole ""patience with the goyim"" thing. Kudos.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487087872 112604787,112632128,2017-02-14 15:59:20,">>112610433 Radical centrism = utilitarianism, nationalist technocracy, etc",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487087960 112604787,112632300,2017-02-14 16:00:54,">>112630585 Wtf I'm Lenine now",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1487088054 112604787,112632358,2017-02-14 16:01:29,">>112632128 utilitarians need to die for the common good",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1487088089 112604787,112633690,2017-02-14 16:12:15,">>112631227 >I never said you said they were the same Yes you did > I've made the difference between values and emotions clear and you've already acknowledged it. You should not assume that someone doesn't value collective justice just because they have shit opinions. I had to provide a theoretical example because you can't seem to understand how justice is an arbitrary concept. My point is that it means jack shit whether you say you value justice or not. Fucking ISIS thinks justice means beheading apostates. Is justice a physical object? No. It's something that changes depending on culture or time period. Justice for your people used to mean that children who disobeyed their parents should be stoned to death. Why did that change? Please point out to me where I haven't defended my points.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487088735 112604787,112633751,2017-02-14 16:12:42,">tfw to intellignet to know what I want Democracy was a mistake",,Anonymous,image.jpg,ILh9u+yg6ILShVVKuAxNTQ==,FR,,1487088762 112604787,112633860,2017-02-14 16:13:40,"isn't a radical centrist someone that regroup extremes from the left and the right? If not what is it called?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1487088820 112604787,112634169,2017-02-14 16:16:05,">this will fix the education prob... >if you don't believe in social uthopias and autoritarism then you can't have opinions!",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487088965 112604787,112634411,2017-02-14 16:17:55,">>112610047 >>112610190 Your ideology is as idiotic as Ops make believe one. They all are. Evolve kike. To think we've stumbled onto a perfect system, or perfect ideological approach to attaining that system is naive if you have a basic understanding of our civilised timeline. Yesterday we were hunting and gathering, and today were bickering over primitive political ideas. You are limiting yourself by aligning with a party that doesn't address the system itself, only addressing trivial semantics within the system. I'm so tired of meaningless debates that are so trivial with even a speck of perspective. Same goes for most of you fucking delusional missing links.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487089075 112604787,112634503,2017-02-14 16:18:38,"I'm a libertarian centrist. I'm in the middle left/right, but i believe in reduced governmental control over the population",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487089118 112604787,112635143,2017-02-14 16:23:39,">>112634411 This whole thread has been >Jew: Centrists don't have values >Goy1: I do. Here they are. (presents values) >Jew: No you don't you're hand waving >Goy1: no I'm not >Jew: yes you are >Goy2: here's an argument for why you're wrong, Jew >Jew: that's not an argument >Goy2: yes it is >Jew: no it's not",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487089419 112604787,112635468,2017-02-14 16:26:16,">>112635143 Exactly what I was thinking. Denial of the obvious is quite a skill, it appears.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487089576 112604787,112636291,2017-02-14 16:32:40,">>112633690 Everything about your post is so disconnected from what I've been saying that there's no point addressing it. Let me go back to the beginning: the problem with centrism is that when a centrist states his political opinion, not only is it not based on any universal or objective standard, but it isn't even based on any consistent subjective standard, so it is essentially completely baseless and arbitrary. You can come up with as many retarded hypothetical examples of people consistently upholding bizarre values, but it doesn't negate the fact that centrists are even lower than that, because even people with bizarre values have something concrete to make value judgments based on, so they can in principle be proven wrong (with respect to their own values), but a centrist's political opinion is in the same category as a centrist's favorite turd shape.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487089960 112604787,112636325,2017-02-14 16:32:57,">>112631314 That's just plain wrong. There isn't any chance statistically that either the left or the right are 100% right in 100% of the issues. That just loosk extremeley unprobable. But the outcome of identity politics is that people are joining a team to be a part of a group, and label their self identity with limiting dogmas (e.g. libertarians, alt-right, socialist and etc..). And almost always these people will defend all the views of the team they belong to. Although there is no fucking chance their team is right all the time. So basically people are accepting views just from the fact they belong to a team and not because of some identical imaginary core values.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487089977 112604787,112636742,2017-02-14 16:36:02,">>112635468 I thought Jews were supposed to be clever. Maybe this Jew has internalized his deceitful nature to the point where he is only able to deceive himself. A sad abomination. We should have pity for such a mistake of nature.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487090162 112604787,112636783,2017-02-14 16:36:23,">>112634411 >Your ideology is as idiotic as Ops make believe one. I wasn't arguing for any ideology, retard. >To think we've stumbled onto a perfect system, or perfect ideological approach to attaining that system is naive if you have a basic understanding of our civilised timeline. I never said anything about perfect systems, retard.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487090183 112604787,112636901,2017-02-14 16:37:24,">>112635143 Are you genuinely retarded? Let's do it again. What are your values?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487090244 112604787,112636965,2017-02-14 16:37:49,>>112633860,,Anonymous,1454228048136.jpg,Sy9u6XtWbO2hJP3wSj9G+g==,FR,,1487090269 112604787,112636996,2017-02-14 16:38:03,">>112636742 You two brainlets are so cute sucking eachother's tiny cocks. So what are your values again, retard?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487090283 112604787,112637071,2017-02-14 16:38:38,">>112604787 >wanting to be like Tony Blair >ever",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487090318 112604787,112637727,2017-02-14 16:43:35,">>112636996 Sorry I don't carry a copy of the centrist's bible around on my person, faggot. I personally just pick and choose the policies I agree with instead of resorting to tribalism. I'm not being condescending but it's hard when you're behaving like an autist.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,7nRZXlS7rV9DzMK/0v+yTA==,US,,1487090615 112604787,112637932,2017-02-14 16:45:08,">>112637727 So you're telling me that you can't explain what your values and principles are, just like every other centrist moron in this thread? Well, thanks for playing.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487090708 112604787,112638057,2017-02-14 16:46:07,">>112604787 >praising Tony Blair because he's a ""radical centrist"" Off yourself you clueless pseudo intellectual.",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1487090767 112604787,112638204,2017-02-14 16:47:11,">>112637932 B-but I'm in a class and can't rip your ass open with only my phone...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487090831 112604787,112638370,2017-02-14 16:48:31,">>112636965 Yes. That's how its party was created, but people think that the party's name of the government was the motor of solutions, while actual specific policies are what's fixing problems.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487090911 112604787,112638469,2017-02-14 16:49:16,">>112636291 Look Goldberg you keep repeating this meme of centrists not having concrete principles even when several centrists have come forward and proved you wrong. Instead of readjusting what you said or conceding that you were wrong, you accused those people of ""hand-waving"" or whatever the fuck that means. Your central argument is that centrists can't have strong principles. Ok prove it. Even if you manage to offer a coherent argument for why all centrists are unable to hold informed opinions, how the fuck is that any different from liberals or conservatives? Pure liberals accept everything that is left wing, pure conservatives accept everything that is right wing. How is someone that chooses the center any less retarded than someone who chooses the extremes just for the sake of ideological consistency? The answer is they arent. All three are equally idiotic. I've tried to explain this to you multiple times but instead of refuting it you deny its an argument altogether. Explain how this is not an argument please. Fuck. I don't even like centrists. I have plenty of reasons why I think their ideology is ridiculous. The fact that I'm defending them from some pretentious and deluded kike is really triggering my ptsd card.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487090956 112604787,112638670,2017-02-14 16:50:41,">>112638204 Like fucking clockwork. Look, I'm really sorry, but in the end of the day, the facts tell you what is. They don't tell you what should be done. If all your value judgments are based on your arbitrary whims, your opinions are even more worthless than those of someone with consistent but bizarre principles.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487091041 112604787,112638918,2017-02-14 16:52:32,">>112636901 Which values? Ask me my opinion on any subject. I'm happy to answer. Or would you rather me make a TL:DR post outlining my entire worldview? Because that would take hours for me to do. I don't have it condensed to a handy elevator pitch.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487091152 112604787,112639105,2017-02-14 16:54:00,">>112638670 >arbitrary whims So you admit that you follow a political ""team"" religiously and other ideologies are worthless? Blind, textbook tribalism. >like clockwork",,Anonymous,image.png,6kLCr426/NoZSmGI3MYqVA==,US,,1487091240 112604787,112639520,2017-02-14 16:57:03,">>112638670 Do you realize how unrealistic that request is? Ok your turn. I want you to, right now, explain in a single post what your entire ideology is and what your opinions are on every issue. I could make it easy on you and just ask you simple questions like ""what's your stance on abortion?"" But I want to move the goalposts so it makes me look like a clever heeb.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487091423 112604787,112639658,2017-02-14 16:57:54,">>112636325 I don't think a lot of people do this.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487091474 112604787,112639886,2017-02-14 16:59:51,">>112639658 You'd be surprised.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487091591 112604787,112639889,2017-02-14 16:59:52,">>112636901 > I can't see you listing ALL your values on every political topic there is > huh that must mean you have no values kike you are genuinely retarded kys",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1487091592 112604787,112640140,2017-02-14 17:01:46,">>112637932 Anon, my values are pretty simple. Work hard, get job, live an acceptable life. Study something useful and work hard, get a great job, live a good life. Study since you are young, get your shit together, know the market, start a bussiness, compete. Regarding the national problem. Simple, how can we help the other citizens, when our own poor people keep going to low quality schools? Immigration allowed from the top academia. Social values. Kill all jews from the media. Promote catholic values, but let people choose. And more; but these generalized values isn't going to fix the most problems out there. Most think that revised uthopias or the socialdemocrat system of Hitler were perfect until ""he lost"". ALL SOCIALDEMOCRAT SYSTEMS (((WORKS))) UNTIL THEY GET DESTROYED BY THEIR OWN PURPOSES. It happens EVERYWHERE. The marxist elite created an effective system for control. I agree with what those two cucks say(nu-lyneux and his psycho friend): The individual set of values developed throughout all of the ancient history, that we got from the greeks, is the most precious reward we could get from them. Still, this won't fix the amount of ignorance from the poor. And the socialdemocrat cycle will keep working on your country.",,Anonymous,QUE ASCO.gif,IlqGu2d7my/GK6aklKOWCA==,ES,,1487091706 112604787,112640433,2017-02-14 17:04:01,">>112639886 It depends on the person's character, but generally speaking the fear and humiliation of being wrong are more powerful driving forces than wanting to be accepted in a group, people are risk averse and this is reflected in the manner in which they form their opinions, even people who inhabit an echo chamber know this fear.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487091841 112604787,112641272,2017-02-14 17:10:22,">>112638469 >several centrists have come forward and proved you wrong You're literally just lying again. The most I got was some vague handwaving like ""to act for the betterment of all humanity"", or ""to do the least amount of harm to the population"", as if 20 different people following these non-principles wouldn't come to 20 different conclusions. It's obviously impossible to consistently evaluate propositions with respect to such ""principles"". >Your central argument is that centrists can't have strong principles. No, you cretin. I wasn't making any ""arguments"" about centrists and principles. I was making the simple observation that people who call themselves ""centrists"" usually don't, and every centrist in this thread strengthens it. Some hypothetical exceptions do not disprove the general trend. >Pure liberals accept everything that is left wing, pure conservatives accept everything that is right wing. No, they don't. Pure liberals accept everything that is consistent with the principles of liberalism. Pure conservatives accept everything that is consistent with the principles of conservatism. >How is someone that chooses the center any less retarded than someone who chooses the extremes just for the sake of ideological consistency? What brainlets like you just can't grasp is that if a certain set of principles really resonates with you, and you're a rational person, then most of the things that follow from said principles will naturally appeal to you, and when they don't, you know it's time for some serious reflection to figure out if you're just biased about a specific instance, or if there are valid distinctions that can be made to further refine your principles.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487092222 112604787,112641388,2017-02-14 17:11:21,">>112639105 No, you fucking retard. Your conclusion in no way follows.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487092281 112604787,112641535,2017-02-14 17:12:37,">>112639889 >listing ALL your values on every political topic there is Like a typical centrist retard, you're confusing values with your random dogshit opinions about ""every political topic there is"". People with actual concrete, consistent values don't have that many.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487092357 112604787,112641747,2017-02-14 17:14:23,">>112607927 R-rivera?!",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487092463 112604787,112641977,2017-02-14 17:16:15,">>112639520 >explain in a single post what your entire ideology is and what your opinions are on every issue I was not asking anyone to do this at any point, you fucking mongoloid. Do you honestly not understand the difference between having a set of values and some guiding principles to help you act in a way that's consistent with your values, and the stances on different political issues that can be derived from the former? There may be a near infinite issues one can form an opinion about, but there's no need for a near-infinite number of values and principles to make a value judgment.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487092575 112604787,112642095,2017-02-14 17:17:12,">>112641747 Rivera was pretty based. Too bad that potemos meme'd them to be the ""Second PP"" ¿Por qué son tan manipulados, españolitos?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487092632 112604787,112642231,2017-02-14 17:18:16,">>112641977 So your opinion is ""hurr durr"" you can't have an opinion if you don't believe in le bible?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487092696 112604787,112642265,2017-02-14 17:18:33,"Economic Centrist Reporting In How the fuck was Margaret Thatcher a 'radical centrist'?",,Anonymous,Muh Views.png,k4YtDLeXTB2LDtuTG+3QWg==,GB,,1487092713 112604787,112642423,2017-02-14 17:19:54,">>112604787 Cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487092794 112604787,112642542,2017-02-14 17:20:51,">>112642231 How do you people keep coming up with these bizarre conclusions? Where did I say anything about believing in the bible? Did I in any way imply that values and principles have to come from the bible?",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487092851 112604787,112642711,2017-02-14 17:22:07,">>112642542 Nigger, policies change the nation. What can't you understand about this sentence?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487092927 112604787,112642837,2017-02-14 17:23:11,">>112604787 My political compass put me dead in the center",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487092991 112604787,112642918,2017-02-14 17:23:49,">>112642711 The only thing I can't understand about this sentence is how it relates to anything I said in any way. You people are seriously bizarre.",,Anonymous,wtf.jpg,svjMeYVCj3c0m1L77u0rig==,IL,,1487093029 112604787,112643661,2017-02-14 17:29:27,>>112604914,,Anonymous,ascended political compass.png,TnD/4SjddRpUrokCkoXclg==,US,,1487093367 112604787,112643726,2017-02-14 17:29:57,">>112642918 You have been whining about the centrist ideology because it has no ""values"" and you keep spouting the same non-sense even though practical elements, like policies are actually the elements to change the social and economical status of each sector of the population. I'm tired of your bullshit. Tell me your values or something is going to explode and it's not going to be your birthday balloons.",,Anonymous,bigstock-Man-aiming-at-spectator-with-g-17549765.jpg,g7nqIKz0//MwTE05/0BYpA==,ES,,1487093397 112604787,112644471,2017-02-14 17:35:53,">>112641388 I'm not sure you know what tribalism means. Look it up on Google, dumbass. You're a sterling example but far too delusional to notice.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,wGvRIhdcA1it3zdhd9k/vQ==,US,,1487093753 112604787,112644616,2017-02-14 17:37:04,">>112644471 You are a literal retard and you will repeatedly fail to show how I'm being ""tribalistic"".",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487093824 112604787,112644827,2017-02-14 17:38:59,">>112643726 >You have been whining about the centrist ideology because it has no ""values"" Actually, my main complaint is that it has no principles. Whether centrists actually have no values at all or if they're just too stupid to figure out how to act consistently with those values isn't very relevant. >policies are actually the elements to change the social and economical status of each sector of the population. Yes, but you have to evaluate policies somehow, and this ultimately involves value judgments, and you need concrete principles to make value judgments. >Tell me your values When it comes to politics, mainly these: justice, freedom, personal responsibility, free association and sovereignty.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487093939 112604787,112644938,2017-02-14 17:39:47,>>112604787,,Anonymous,6ee.jpg,Oa1ZPmLSISrVp9yXKg4b4A==,PT,,1487093987 112604787,112645007,2017-02-14 17:40:27,">>112641272 The following centrists made detailed posts answering questions about their political opinions. They were not handwaving, and yet you completely ignored them. >>112627424 >>112628155 >>112629494 >I wasn't making any ""arguments"" about centrists and principles And then you immediately make an argument about centrists and principles > I was making the simple observation that people who call themselves ""centrists"" usually don't That is an argument. Not an observation. An observation would be that some of the centrists in this thread unsurprisingly gave vague answers when asked to outline their entire worldview. You said ""people who call themselves centrists usually don't (have strong principles)"" that is a claim, it requires evidence. In order to prove that you'd have to ask a large sample size of people who identify as centrists (much larger than the one in this thread) and conduct a study which somehow determines whether each centrist holds consistent views throughout a period of time. You cannot assume that someone has no concrete principles just because they subscribe to a particular ethos. I'll give you that liberalism =\= left wing. But do you agree that someone who identifies as left-wing is most likely to agree with policies that are left-wing? Do you honestly think that people who identify as left/right wing really think about things issue to issue? Of course they don't. In my country, at the voting booth they'll put a check mark on any name with a (D) or an (R). We call it pulling the donkey's tail or the elephant's trunk. And before you try to thwart this point by saying party =\= principle, they are basically equal. Every political party has a pre-set principle. Rational people do not follow that principle 100%. Doesn't make them arbitrary morons like you're suggesting, it means they're actively thinking about the issues.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487094027 112604787,112645050,2017-02-14 17:40:52,">>112644616 By pledging loyalty to a political orientation because it has a vague list of ""values"" that you validate yourself by? Like a religious cuck? It's not that difficult to understand.",,Anonymous,image.png,1cki0wcT/tUtW2zGDl5shA==,US,,1487094052 112604787,112645364,2017-02-14 17:43:24,">>112641977 Yes you fucking did faggot Right here >>112613081",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487094204 112604787,112645641,2017-02-14 17:45:42,">>112604914 Damn, they are like Simon & Bogfunkel",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1487094342 112604787,112645774,2017-02-14 17:46:45,Centrists are just status quo cucks. What's the point in even being political?,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487094405 112604787,112645851,2017-02-14 17:47:29,">>112604787 I'd rather just not care about politics at all and keep my regular sized head",,Anonymous,1443738088014a.jpg,QwrjieVGi7WKIoFgZoM96A==,BR,,1487094449 112604787,112646264,2017-02-14 17:51:08,">>112644827 >act consistently with those values They have values, but you don't get that most of them migrated from the far-right or the left. So they have static values, but they agree with most of them. Far left people are parasytes who stay poor all their life. >evaluate policiies On most countries, the centrist party avoids socialist policies and tend to be more right winged. >When it comes to politics, mainly these: justice, freedom, personal responsibility, free association and sovereignty. That's the commom westerner set of values. At least it's the ancient one. I don't know how the centre is fucking your country up, but most leech left-winged infiltrate those parties and fuck them up from the inside. That's why you sometimes get irrelevant and contradictory policies on a presidential context. Still, the christian capitalist set of values are easy to get and promote, guess why poor people and indoctrinated retards always tend to be far left. The former matter can be aliviated while the other one can be avoided with an actual ""subliminal"" indoctrination of the great reward of the individual-centered values, greeks gave to us. >>112645851 You just have to check the history of the socialdemocrat politicians. How they fucked your country, and how they fucked the other countries of your own continent. Politics is not for extremist retards.",,Anonymous,normal people.png,r5Y6M8a0PNibHmRxRyzA3Q==,ES,,1487094668 112604787,112646312,2017-02-14 17:51:34,">>112645774 No we're not. We're taking the best ideas from the right and the best ideas from the left, mix them together to make everyone unhappy.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487094694 112604787,112646849,2017-02-14 17:55:40,">>112646312 Excellent summation",,Anonymous,image.png,lruQ3Vy3FEnFHaVYt6oUVA==,US,,1487094940 112604787,112646910,2017-02-14 17:56:08,"Can a radical centrists explain to me how they are not a slave to the overtone window, and thereby ""progressives"" bitch? That imaginary centre line, is just a snapshot in whatever year we find ourselves in... You expect me to believe your spiritual predecessors planned for this particular moment for you to defend?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487094968 112604787,112647198,2017-02-14 17:58:27,">>112645007 >The following centrists made detailed posts answering questions about their political opinions. They were not handwaving, and yet you completely ignored them. >their political opinions. For the dozenth time, the discussion isn't about political opinions. It's about principles. Also, I did not ignore them. I don't read every post in this thread, only those referencing mine. >That is an argument. Not an observation. > that is a claim So is it an argument or is it a claim, you moron? Do you even understand what an argument is? >In order to prove that you'd have to ask a large sample size of people who identify as centrists I've talked to enough of them to make such an observation. I don't need to ""prove"" it to you, and you don't need to take my word for it. >You cannot assume that someone has no concrete principles just because they subscribe to a particular ethos. Correct, but I can still observe that the vast majority of people I've come across who subscribe to a particular ethos lack principles. It's my personal observation, it's triggering many people in this thread, and shockingly enough, none of them seem to have any principles. Make of that what you will. >But do you agree that someone who identifies as left-wing is most likely to agree with policies that are left-wing? Sure, but that doesn't mean that they agree with every left-wing policy. Just that the policies they do agree with tend to be left-wing, and that they disagree with most right-wing policies. >Do you honestly think that people who identify as left/right wing really think about things issue to issue? I don't know, but at least they could in theory, unlike most centrists. (And no, I don't count spouting baseless opinions as ""thinking"" about an issue)",,Anonymous,this-problem-requires.jpg,KKQl6wRTa4uieDZm5eKaHg==,IL,,1487095107 112604787,112647539,2017-02-14 18:01:23,">>112646312 >Best It's entirely possible for two ""radical centrists"", to be completely contradictory under that definition. I'm pretty sure ""radical centrists"" are just people who once labeled themselves Democrats, but haven't shaken off all the lefty memes they've been pumped with since childhood.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1487095283 112604787,112647626,2017-02-14 18:02:00,">>112645050 >pledging loyalty to a political orientation because it has a vague list of ""values"" Tribalism implies loyalty to a social group, not to a set of values, you fucking moron. Kill yourself.",,Anonymous,bath-together.jpg,RZLFnBX0YpfatoYvusLp1g==,IL,,1487095320 112604787,112647752,2017-02-14 18:03:05,">>112604787 You know that radical centrism literally is fascism, Mussolini used to call himself a radical centrist all the time.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487095385 112604787,112647855,2017-02-14 18:03:47,>all these autists taking this seriously,,Anonymous,1487017832242.jpg,F7OeyAKgXXTbRzdYyzTCLg==,BE,,1487095427 112604787,112647912,2017-02-14 18:04:16,">>112645364 >Yes you fucking did faggot. Right here If you actually read the fucking post you're referring to, you'll see that it talks about principles again. It says: >a list of concrete premises on which the centrist world view is based This in no way implies a complete ideology or a list of opinions on every possible political issue. Holy fuck, you people are literally subhuman...",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487095456 112604787,112647969,2017-02-14 18:04:47,">>112604787 Isn't that just another term for National Socialism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487095487 112604787,112648941,2017-02-14 18:12:32,">>112647626 You are arguing semantics you fucking autist. It doesn't change the fact that you find the idea of belonging to a particular political group more appealing than fighting for the values you personally agree with. If tribalism isn't quite specific enough for you maybe autism is. Autistic people sometimes find an obsession with odd things, such as a bizarre set of unclear ""values"" in your case.",,Anonymous,image.gif,Csq2+1fyzBPiVtyPWz5Wrw==,US,,1487095952 112604787,112649056,2017-02-14 18:13:25,">>112626338 Illegal immigrants >Illegal Death penalty >Too messy, just keep 'em locked up Gay Marriage >Sure Abortion >Sure Gun rights >Go ahead and shoot shit Free speech >Sure Global warming >Carbon tax + some investments in green tech Affirmative Action >Nah Socialism or Capitalism >Healthcare and education only Muslim Ban >Families - sure, fighting age males - fuck off",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1487096005 112604787,112649092,2017-02-14 18:13:40,"Is grey pilling a thing yet? Also, is this 2 grey pills or 1 red and 1 blue pill?",,Anonymous,enhanced-15896-1448982068-1.jpg,JqNN2/mPn1OSPIjt5tbTTw==,US,,1487096020 112604787,112649251,2017-02-14 18:14:53,">>112648941 >you're arguing semantics by proving that I'm wrong by definition Okay, retard. >you find the idea of belonging to a particular political group more appealing than fighting for the values you personally agree with Uhh... No, you subhuman cretin. You just made that up. It's in no way stated or implied by any of my posts, and you demonstrated this repeatedly by running in circles like a retard instead of providing proofs for your claim.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1487096093 112652072,112652072,2017-02-14 18:36:37,"new thread because the old one died Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,1487102555536.jpg,eRIU03L4uQ2RR2fzTclUdQ==,GB,,1487097397 112652072,112652589,2017-02-14 18:40:29,Bump,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487097629 112652072,112652599,2017-02-14 18:40:33,>tfw 3 intelligent for egalitarianism,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1487097633 112652072,112653297,2017-02-14 18:46:18,">>112652072 >Tfw too intelligent to fit on the political plane",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1487097978 112652072,112653511,2017-02-14 18:47:49,>>112652072,,Anonymous,Political_Compass_5_0.png,PdMe9xepKKt8v9pCoVnNvA==,CA,,1487098069 112652072,112653822,2017-02-14 18:50:16,">The ""centrism"" refers to a belief that genuine solutions require realism and pragmatism, not just idealism and emotion. jokes aside, I can get behind that wtf i love radical centrism now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487098216 112652072,112654066,2017-02-14 18:52:17,">>112652072 sage the old one died for a reason at least you're attempting to create a discussion, but you really need to try harder pic is you",,Anonymous,Screen_shot_2011-12-25_at_4.52.05_AM[1].png,h4fI8NsF0b0CLi3aCH6wdw==,US,,1487098337 112652072,112654941,2017-02-14 18:59:14,">>112652072 >mfw nobody noticed changes to /rgc/ OP",,Anonymous,3580898.jpg,PTJg7an/xQGuEWGEJ85mRw==,US,,1487098754 112931071,112931071,2017-02-16 15:08:53,"new thread because the old one died Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists, that one autistic israeli, etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,1475960278539.jpg,gEVcOh8d8yd9YyQDloEOXw==,MA,,1487257733 112931071,112931317,2017-02-16 15:10:49,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECAvNSho7gY,,Anonymous,Destiny breaks down an argument.webm,9zedGu6LApL/rH6efozTUA==,MA,,1487257849 112958612,112958612,2017-02-16 18:27:49,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,Centrism.jpg,08mCgqQRMEDjSBPB33ntGQ==,GB,,1487269669 112958612,112959293,2017-02-16 18:32:59,">>112958612 > Ben Garrison > RadCent",,Anonymous,1487061693008.jpg,FBY4q0jQXSwsyoyipelMOQ==,US,,1487269979 112958612,112960228,2017-02-16 18:40:08,">>112958612 Banks should have a 100% reserve requirement so they cannot create money. This money creation power should replace taxation as the government funding mechanism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487270408 112958612,112960621,2017-02-16 18:43:03,">>112958612 I'm an extreme moderate radicalist I take no pleasure in killing you.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1487270583 112958612,112961376,2017-02-16 18:48:36,">>112960621 thx for letting us know that you are not a psychopath",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1487270916 112958612,112963026,2017-02-16 19:01:38,"I see BlueBrock is taking the shotgun approach to meme creation. I hope you're being paid well, bong anon. To start: >George Washington Everyone projects everything onto him because he's the first president. There's little he did that other presidents did not do better or better exemplify. >Jesse Ventura Certified nutcase. Completely discredits you. >Tony Blair Scoundrel but he did our Neocon's bidding.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487271698 112958612,112963268,2017-02-16 19:03:33,">>112959293 Who is this angel??",,Anonymous,1485568375028.jpg,RNIL08dw/nTzxHbyL9p0YA==,US,,1487271813 112958612,112963545,2017-02-16 19:05:41,>>112958612,,Anonymous,rad center.png,XV93fGoOIXet+YU21la+nw==,BG,,1487271941 112958612,112963636,2017-02-16 19:06:19,>>112963545,,Anonymous,a fucking centrist.png,0XflOlNnNi3y38U9aRLBWg==,BG,,1487271979 112958612,112963919,2017-02-16 19:08:31,>>112963636,,Anonymous,1479931070962.png,FHoApCePrlImS9LRivgknA==,BG,,1487272111 112958612,112964188,2017-02-16 19:10:22,">>112963919 >545 >636 >919 and still no doubles",,Anonymous,1479930087553.jpg,VlNle0mGVrAAs3tuR6bhvw==,BG,,1487272222 112958612,112964346,2017-02-16 19:11:31,">>112964188 well , prise kek",,Anonymous,P_E_P_E_!.jpg,a5rq5iPrSk22TPT8Sm9zmQ==,BG,,1487272291 112958612,112965061,2017-02-16 19:17:16,">>112963268 shes a degenerate hoe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1487272636 113205872,113205872,2017-02-18 11:16:02,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison The Alt-Right and Alt-Left are obsolete. It's time for the Alt-Center",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,Radical centrist.jpg,gEVcOh8d8yd9YyQDloEOXw==,GB,,1487416562 113205872,113206884,2017-02-18 11:26:22,Finally! Some reason on this board!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1487417182 113205872,113207752,2017-02-18 11:34:41,Can't dumbass libtards and conservashits realise that the rich ones are doing a good ol divide and conquer on us?,,Anonymous,,,HU,,1487417681 113205872,113207811,2017-02-18 11:35:16,">>113205872 BONER BUMP",,Anonymous,,,LB,,1487417716 113205872,113208148,2017-02-18 11:38:25,">average intelligence quotient (IQ) of the centrist community >183 >average intelligence quotient (IQ) of the drumpf administration >79 *straightens jacket* 'nuff said.",,Anonymous,IMG_2479.jpg,fR8GQtSbB3ZRd91p/7molg==,US,,1487417905 113205872,113208941,2017-02-18 11:45:57,">>113205872 Far centrist reporting in. Pragmatism > dogmatism Liberté, Egalité, Realité!",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1487418357 113514584,113514584,2017-02-20 11:54:16,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison The Alt-Right and Alt-Left are obsolete. It's time for the Alt-Center",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,radcen.jpg,XBOpIOpm4QmnJUU0HWKdGQ==,GB,,1487591656 113514584,113514657,2017-02-20 11:54:50,">>113514584 Reminder that radical centrism leads to this 9 times out of ten.",,Anonymous,1470580075286.jpg,uXMOpUtJxfYy9L3rW+X3rg==,CA,,1487591690 113514584,113514811,2017-02-20 11:56:04,>>113514584,,Anonymous,Screenshot-2017-02-15-00-48-53.png,QvZo85eJkwyhBXF1FJod1w==,GB,,1487591764 113514584,113515098,2017-02-20 11:58:38,"So, radical centrism is just political pragmatism?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1487591918 122433679,122433679,2017-04-23 11:02:28,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Ventura https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Blair https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Garrison",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,altright2.jpg,6FDzcMZH9djvxDbPBIZaFw==,GB,,1492945348 122433679,122433841,2017-04-23 11:03:54,>TONY BLAIR,,Anonymous,Adolf.jpg,z9j8Q7lAPf15VR+fC/vDew==,GB,,1492945434 122433679,122436537,2017-04-23 11:27:18,">>122433679 Ah yes the centre, where progressives move foward, regressives move backward. The centre can be counted on to do absolutely fuck all.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1492946838 122433679,122436784,2017-04-23 11:29:11,How do you guys feel about things like gay marriage?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492946951 122433679,122436885,2017-04-23 11:29:52,>>122433679,,Anonymous,centrism.png,InXvIMmiv+sfAqdDxnwv5Q==,AU,,1492946992 122433679,122437018,2017-04-23 11:30:58,>>>/r/iamverysmart,,Anonymous,,,US,,1492947058 122433679,122437289,2017-04-23 11:33:33,"Go purple, logicsquare",,Anonymous,,,US,,1492947213 122433679,122438492,2017-04-23 11:44:26,">>122436784 i think they should be allowed into something of a different name and without a possibility to adopt kids. >>122436885 centrists do have beliefs tho, but unlike radical right/left we actually think about how those beliefs will influence the society if implemented.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1492947866 124231649,124231649,2017-05-05 14:09:29,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org http://www.pewresearch.org/ http://www.investopedia.com/ http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2010/Sumnerneoliberalism.html NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Destiny",/rcg/ Radical Centrist General,Anonymous,4SYEvZM.png,oIgL5EHG0ANedKsUkbZJcQ==,MA,,1493993369 124231649,124233650,2017-05-05 14:26:46,">>124231649 bumb",,Anonymous,,,MA,,1493994406 124231649,124233988,2017-05-05 14:29:46,">>124231649 sam harris talks about a ""new center"" is that what this is?",,Anonymous,1462325529974.png,Omvp58D2wdUqM9hBA0BQag==,US,,1493994586 124231649,124234632,2017-05-05 14:35:45,"Enough is enough, for too long have people held onto beliefs. Us radical centrists must transition fully to radical centrist extremism. If we don't violently revolt against the concept of opinion and create the Centrist State we will be doomed to irrelevancy in the coming years. Where are the men of centrism? Are they willing to see their sons and daughters believe in something based on their world view? We must stop this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1493994945 124792275,124792275,2017-05-09 10:15:25,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists etc. LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org http://www.pewresearch.org/ http://www.investopedia.com/ http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2010/Sumnerneoliberalism.html NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Destiny",/rcg/ Radical Centrism General - President Macron Edition,Anonymous,macron.png,+sgkSy9hms9K02he5djo7A==,SE,,1494324925 124792275,124792842,2017-05-09 10:22:17,bump,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494325337 124792275,124793254,2017-05-09 10:27:22,Radical centrism and neoliberalism are two different t,,Anonymous,,,US,,1494325642 124792275,124793656,2017-05-09 10:32:30,">>124792275 >Welcome to Sven Cuckenheigr's Radical Fence Sitter General! Come enjoy da bantz! >Dead thread Sounds about right",,Anonymous,tmp_9593-1485161834368-451311809.jpg,SlyBjq/E0NZUcMXDY412WA==,US,,1494325950 124792275,124794051,2017-05-09 10:37:23,Wheres all da mad centrist heads at?,,Anonymous,02d1973bc872e2b154578df9b02ef375--scary-people-strange-people.jpg,2Oe7q3Hv2DT+1HmV5OAHbg==,IE,,1494326243 124792275,124794377,2017-05-09 10:41:20,bump,,Anonymous,,,NL,,1494326480 132552778,132552778,2017-07-05 21:39:54,">inb4 muh beliefs/convictions finger guns meme Imagine being so dumb you don't understand that you think measuring the merits of each angle/side to any given political issue and then developing your position after that is somehow a display of not having personal individual beliefs/convictions - but somehow choosing your position based on group identity is",Radical centrist general /rcg/,Anonymous,radcen.png,A0mAQZfd29oUvOqjNpgLwA==,US,,1499290794 132552778,132554037,2017-07-05 21:51:57,"hide and report it this is a slide thread faggot sage in options field A haiku for you, nigger-san.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1499291517 137485097,137485097,2017-08-14 20:09:14,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists, Nazis, SJWs, etc LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org http://www.pewresearch.org/ https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/aer http://www.investopedia.com/ http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2010/Sumnerneoliberalism.html NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/Barack_Obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes",/rcg/ -- Radical Centrism General,Anonymous,radical_centrism.jpg,u27Xx17suIWYRwdtcZSO4A==,CA,,1502741354 137485097,137486325,2017-08-14 20:17:35,no love?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502741855 137485097,137486537,2017-08-14 20:19:04,"Reporting in E M P I R I C A L E V I D E N C E",,Anonymous,1200px-EMMANUEL-MACRON-PORTRAIT-OFFICIEL.jpg,GsBSoI7ANP7HKPi1imW84g==,,,1502741944 137485097,137486751,2017-08-14 20:20:35,">>137485097 You are not alone boyo.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1502742035 137485097,137486876,2017-08-14 20:21:30,What the hell is radical centrism? Isn't that an oxymoron?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742090 137485097,137486906,2017-08-14 20:21:42,">>137486537 Honestly thought Macron would be a total cuck. He's still a cuck but he's surprised me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742102 137485097,137486915,2017-08-14 20:21:47,post meeems,,Anonymous,7IlW2rFZoxQEjPqlcBqByFvSfjuPPUS_4jzJcZiU0NI.jpg,EksVGDL/u+PNQ3VxXrAxnQ==,,,1502742107 137485097,137487032,2017-08-14 20:22:32,">everybody is stupid but me lol you get the bullet too",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742152 137485097,137487224,2017-08-14 20:23:43,">>137486915 Business should be allowed to hire who they want, but workers should be allowed to form unions.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1502742223 137485097,137487239,2017-08-14 20:23:52,">>137485097 Thank you for making this",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1502742232 137485097,137487316,2017-08-14 20:24:23,">>137487032 Bullet me then, pussy. Turns out I can fire a gun AND believe in abortion. Fucking weird, right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742263 137485097,137487393,2017-08-14 20:24:54,">>137486906 >Son of Jupiter >bogpilled >too intelligent to talk to media >cuck >>137487224 sounds good",,Anonymous,4DsGk1II-bXEEpQ7ESXqQ-vO9ijFJ9UPzV0SnTBJuOg.png,w2mSfQhMgo5Mtcmr7ksubA==,,,1502742294 137485097,137487398,2017-08-14 20:24:57,"Free market(no gov't) --- crony capitalism(some gov't) --- socialism (total gov't) CENTRISTS ARE CRONIES! THE WEST MUST BE SAVED! RESTORE YOUR PRIDE, RESTORE YOUR CULTURE!! STATES RIGHTS!! https://youtu.be/hCIc5ymZai4 [Open] CUT EPA!! CUT DEP OF ED!! MAGA",,Anonymous,image.jpg,iLnCEw/z5S+pN0SfSoccCA==,US,,1502742297 137485097,137487437,2017-08-14 20:25:11,"Heil Merkel Heil Tredeau Heil Marcon For Money and Reason!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742311 137485097,137487895,2017-08-14 20:28:00,"BRING BACK THE TPP >BRING BACK THE TPP BRING BACK THE TPP >BRING BACK THE TPP BRING BACK THE TPP >BRING BACK THE TPP",,Anonymous,t3_6krufl.png,Y7eqbgzPwYc9d1weZRahQA==,,,1502742480 137485097,137487929,2017-08-14 20:28:14,">>137487437 Merkel is an opportunist crypto-populist.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1502742494 137485097,137487949,2017-08-14 20:28:19,">>137487393 >jewed >meme'd >autistic t. cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502742499 137485097,137488177,2017-08-14 20:30:01,">>137486876 Idealism without illusions, kiddo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502742601 137485097,137488919,2017-08-14 20:34:44,">>137485097 >Radical SELLOUT General",,Anonymous,male feminists femscum - women are cancer .jpg,PaioBgkQZTeepn9MQkKemw==,,,1502742884 137485097,137489013,2017-08-14 20:35:21,">>137488919 Why do you hate the global poor?",,Anonymous,t3_6914tq.png,p6O6e3+zRy8XfPN+KXmoLA==,,,1502742921 137485097,137489697,2017-08-14 20:40:12,Who are some centrist philosophers to read? Kant and Locke?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743212 137485097,137490135,2017-08-14 20:43:11,>>137489697,,Anonymous,cnPp8Nq.jpg,2nkppPn0Sp3TjAvseC5wXw==,,,1502743391 137485097,137490584,2017-08-14 20:46:08,">>137489697 >>137490135",,Anonymous,maCP44z.png,DvtP7DAQasID79JXlWTmBA==,,,1502743568 137485097,137490813,2017-08-14 20:47:40,,,Anonymous,centrist man of centrist planet.jpg,YI/sLQPYrTKWX+7F88hrMA==,ES,,1502743660 137485097,137490877,2017-08-14 20:48:07,">>137490135 >>137490584 cool. thx. Whats your opinions on center- (left/right politics) Good or bad?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743687 137485097,137491306,2017-08-14 20:50:41,">>137490813 >he thinks centrism means being apathetic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502743841 137485097,137491483,2017-08-14 20:51:54,"What does radical centrism say on the subject of >more extreme = faster progress ? The idea that having a pendulum swing between left/right, with each being pushed by their extremism to achieve some goals until they push too far, piss off enough people and inevitably cause their own counter-movements, being the faster way of achieving the more widely accepted demands as oppose to seeking consensus among the majority of parties directly.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502743914 137485097,137492176,2017-08-14 20:56:28,">>137490877 I've became center/center-right after realizing that too many position on the Trump and Sanders side were too much feels based rather than actual facts. I still kinda like Ted Cruz despite some of his positions being fucking horrible. SJWs are a problem but are really overexagerated by people on this board, hence why you always see the same half dozen SJWs being posted here. To me market is a means to an end, not the end itself, so capitalism must be preserved but not idolized. Immigration is a net gain to the country if done in a moderate and controlled way. Minimum wage must be abolished. Populism is cancer. Inequality isn't bad as long as we curb poverty. Protectionism is almost ways bad. Some other ""almost"" consensus on the center, from economists: http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com.br/2009/02/news-flash-economists-agree.html",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744188 137485097,137492826,2017-08-14 21:01:02,">>137487224 NO BAD GOY. TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS MEANS WE ALL GET THE BENEFITS OF INCREASED WEALTH. UNIONS ARE FOR GOMMIES",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744462 137485097,137493023,2017-08-14 21:02:30,">>137485097 Relevant?: https://ourworldindata.org/extreme-poverty/ http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/03/pinker-explains-the-long-peace/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744550 137485097,137493039,2017-08-14 21:02:36,radical centrism is the final redpill. Would you classify guys like Ben Shapiro as rad cent or more center right?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744556 137485097,137493450,2017-08-14 21:05:18,">>137491483 I don't mind the extremists, their actions tend to fortify the center. If not for them in our society, Jupiter Macron would have never been elected, and some other moderate right or lefty would have got it. Extremists are a necessary evil. >>137492826 ((((TRICKLE DOWN)))) IS NOT /RAD-CENTER APPROVED/",,Anonymous,6a00d83451da3169e201bb09791005970d.jpg,C0zzoMzKmrAKuh63RE0ihA==,,,1502744718 137485097,137493533,2017-08-14 21:05:49,">>137493039 center-right to right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744749 137485097,137493557,2017-08-14 21:05:56,"Centrism wins once again. Feels great being on the right side, desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744756 137485097,137493771,2017-08-14 21:07:26,">>137493450 >tfw centrism has to defend itself from attack from both sides",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744846 137485097,137493831,2017-08-14 21:07:47,">>137487398 you are a total faggot, you will never be review brah caliber",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502744867 137485097,137493871,2017-08-14 21:08:03,">>137493450 this picture pisses me off so much. Nothing shows who's an economically illiterate retard like showing that picture. Hey dumbass, WHERES THE WINE COME FROM?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744883 137485097,137493907,2017-08-14 21:08:15,">>137485097 FUCKING LEAF KYS KEKLORD",,Anonymous,asdf.png,Zc0W6YTPmVncD6dj52V1VQ==,,,1502744895 137485097,137493910,2017-08-14 21:08:16,">>137493039 Ben Shapiro is a pretty solid center-right/libertarian right. Maybe only a rad-center if we consider only his economic views, but that may be a stretch. He is a good dude, but kinda too much principle based rather than pragmatic/evidence based.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502744896 137485097,137494071,2017-08-14 21:09:33,">>137485097 Centrists are liars. They usually always vote one party.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502744973 137485097,137494541,2017-08-14 21:12:34,">>137494071 >always vote one party Thats for filthy communists and NEET-socs only",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745154 137485097,137494840,2017-08-14 21:14:33,">>137492176 >SJWs ... are really overexagerated ... the same half dozen small groups of loud extremists can represent large movements. What would you need to see before calling SJWs a serious problem? >but not idolized What should, in your opinion, be idolized? >Immigration is a net gain ... if done in moderate and controlled way Is this not accomplished by requiring said immigrants to provide value to society? >Minimum wage should be abolished How would you deal with full-time wages being lower than living costs? >Populism is cancer >curb poverty Do you not see this is a contradiction? >Protectionism is almost always bad >almost always when do you consider it good/ useful?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502745273 137485097,137495020,2017-08-14 21:15:41,">>137494541 Definitely not a Communist. Guess that makes me a NEET-soc, which I am guessing is an imitation Nazi? Sure! I'm not a racist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745341 137485097,137495097,2017-08-14 21:16:10,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745370 137485097,137495750,2017-08-14 21:20:16,">>137494071 Voted for Obongo in 2008, since Palin and that fucking warmonger McCain were just fucking atrocious, then Romney in 2012, since it turns out the black man was a warmonger and wall street sellout too. Strict party lines are for literal, unapologetic faggots. Don't compromise your ideals to appease this dumbass false dichotomy of ""You're either with us, or you're the enemy.""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745616 137485097,137496234,2017-08-14 21:23:31,">>137495097 God, he even looks like Goebbels >>137495750 What would you say to the idea that uniting under and sticking to one purpose leads to more quickly achieving said purpose? Alternatively, switching focus causes inefficiency.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502745811 137485097,137496286,2017-08-14 21:23:51,">>137495750 You virtue-signalling cuckold. You voted for Obama over McCain, yet voted for Romney because Obama was too war-mongering? I voted McCain because he is a war-hero, instead of Obama the first time, and opted out of voting for Romney because he is a bona-fide pussy. Do you call yourself a Libertarian as well?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745831 137485097,137496442,2017-08-14 21:24:50,">>137495750 it's a shame Trump is also a warmonger too. Fuck this gay earth.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502745890 137485097,137496586,2017-08-14 21:25:46,">>137496286 >You virtue-signalling cuckold.",,Anonymous,stopped.jpg,bkrOsgKHIjRwu8ARkF3ExQ==,US,,1502745946 137485097,137496732,2017-08-14 21:26:44,">>137496286 >I voted McCain because he is a war-hero Is that a rational criteria/worthy (of leadership) accomplishment, in your opinion?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502746004 137485097,137497004,2017-08-14 21:28:24,">>137485097 I used to always say I was a left leaning centrist but I actually think after checking a few of these links that I might be a radical centrist. You've given me a lot of homework, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746104 137485097,137497152,2017-08-14 21:29:29,">>137496586 Nothing like wrapping yourself up in comfort to keep your ideas free from critical thought. Of course we're headed into degeneracy.",,Anonymous,Comfort.png,IUprEiK5QFDRxhilDj5juw==,US,,1502746169 137485097,137497267,2017-08-14 21:30:16,">>137496732 Absolutely. Do you have a better criteria?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746216 137485097,137497405,2017-08-14 21:31:09,">>137496286 War hero does not equal proficient leader of the free world. I was paying my dues to the military during those years, I saw what an embarrassing debacle the Iraq war was, and I was not keen on more of that. Granted Obama did a masterstroke of talking the talk, but not walking the walk, but at least he had the decency to put up the smoke and mirrors like Trump did. And Romney was more of a protest vote than anything. I knew that Mormon fuck had no chance, but Obama sold out so hard that he needed way more clap backs then he got.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746269 137485097,137497569,2017-08-14 21:32:13,">>137493871 >economically illiterate retard How does it feel to disagree with almost every economist, including Republican ones? Trickle-down is literally the original ""good goyim"" policy. >>137494840 >before calling SJWs a serious problem? That may be a problem to answer as I don't know what you would call an SJW. Gamergate stuff, for an example, are pretty much a non-problem to me. >What should, in your opinion, be idolized? Nothing, thats the thing. >Is this not accomplished by requiring said immigrants to provide value to society? You don't even need to ""require"" it. They boost the productivity, GDP, new jobs, new consumers, reduces costs, and unlike people on this board believe, people don't want to live their entire lives on a shitty welfare check. People do want work, and create households, wealth, etc. >How would you deal with full-time wages being lower than living costs? There would be a UBI/Negative Income Tax, but pragmatically I don't push for that in the current climate, and neither of these are necesarily a critical change to me. High minimum wages federally are retarded on diverse countries like the US also, fighting that is more import to me than straight abolishing it. >>137494840 >Do you not see this is a contradiction? Not really. The real populism doesn't come from the people against poverty, but rather the inequality based folks, like Bernie Sanders, that ran half of his entire campaign on this talkpoint, and people loved it. >when do you consider it good/ useful? Adam smith recognized national security concerns as a reason for some protectionism, but even then its kinda limited. Example are things like Energy, Oil, etc.",,Anonymous,Surgery_diagram.jpg,5q/EiQVD3oKGZXXfRfhCoQ==,,,1502746333 137485097,137498177,2017-08-14 21:36:11,">>137496286 >I voted McCain because he is a war-hero The fuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746571 137485097,137498187,2017-08-14 21:36:15,">>137497267 It's not unreasonable to assume someone who is capable of surviving a war and actually distinguishing himself within it would be a good leader unfortunately they also give the ""war hero"" treatment to self-sacrificing naive people and brave idiots which make for terrible leaders I'm not offering a counter, merely inquiring as to why you consider it a good choice to broaden perspective, you may have a valid point, if you make it",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502746575 137485097,137498390,2017-08-14 21:37:27,>>137485097,,Anonymous,Blair past.png,FLPXrhiO08ItxN8b9fB1Cw==,,,1502746647 137485097,137498478,2017-08-14 21:38:06,">>137485097 Radical centrism? Or just liberalism with a flashy new label? It's already been done, it's called the 'third way', now gtfo.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746686 137485097,137498485,2017-08-14 21:38:10,">>137497405 You sound like a bitch-made pussy. Afraid to pick up arms and defeat the enemy. Who cares, even if it is primarily for profit, if we invade a country and try to establish some order? People like you breed and produce worse individuals than we have. Automation will be our cure.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746690 137485097,137498645,2017-08-14 21:39:15,">>137498177 Yup. Relatively speaking, prior to him we had no legitimate war heros in several decades.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746755 137485097,137498719,2017-08-14 21:39:43,">>137485097 Is this authoritarian social democracy or social liberal thread?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746783 137485097,137498751,2017-08-14 21:39:54,">>137487929 > Merkel is an opportunist crypto-populist Don't use fancy sounding words you don't understand, son.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746794 137485097,137498755,2017-08-14 21:39:55,">>137493871 The wine is produced by the workers, not the owners of the means of production - but yeah, the picture sucks and so does anyone who shares it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746795 137485097,137498998,2017-08-14 21:41:34,">>137485097 >Radical centrist is just a leftist who's too scared to admit it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746894 137485097,137499028,2017-08-14 21:41:48,">>137498187 >you may have a valid point, if you make it The fact that he was captured and tortured and later released played well in my head. I didn't realize he was an Admiral's son and that he received favorable treatment when he was enlisted, nor that he sung like a snitch, nor that he was likely responsible for the lives of over 100 sailors when he wet start a jet on an aircraft carrier. Hindsight is 20/20, but I still think he would have done a better job than that Communist, tranny-loving, faggot, Obama.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502746908 137485097,137499134,2017-08-14 21:42:31,">>137485097 >Centrist cucks, communists and facists are too retarded to be enlightened technocratic integralist trade-unionist traditionalists Pathetic",,Anonymous,SOCTECH.jpg,mBptp9wIDlRIkPrmNPNPhA==,DE,,1502746951 137485097,137499228,2017-08-14 21:43:13,">>137498478 Well, McCain is a good Republican compared to the rest, just voting ""because"" he was an war hero that was weird to me. >>137498478 >new label Go back to Charlottesville, buddy",,Anonymous,,,,,1502746993 137485097,137499349,2017-08-14 21:44:07,">>137499134 Never trust socdems.",,Anonymous,rosa434.jpg,6m41++qGi4tJHQ3chRygwQ==,,,1502747047 137485097,137499501,2017-08-14 21:45:06,">>137498478 We don't need your disinformation, commie. Radical centrism is the new way forward, you can either adapt or get left behind.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502747106 137485097,137499585,2017-08-14 21:45:33,">>137499349 But I'm not a socdem.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1502747133 137485097,137499832,2017-08-14 21:47:20,">>137485097 Are you the faggots that are pulling the >I'm better than all of you because I'm in the middle All over the internet?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747240 137485097,137499876,2017-08-14 21:47:37,">>137498998 >tfw when you are so deep in your ideology that you activelly look for biases to tell everyone else is a leftist >>137499134 Socdems are a bit okay for now, but they better be gone when the day of the rope arrives.",,Anonymous,1420407064172.jpg,yqoI+4mqutTAkVNLPhpz9w==,,,1502747257 137485097,137499922,2017-08-14 21:47:55,">>137497569 >gamergate stuff ... non-problem I wasn't /that/ informed but afiak it was related to a collusion among major industry-media leaders to manipulate public opinion. That sounds serious to me >nothing should be idolized sounds like anarchy to me, not efficient people are good with ""higher power"" motivators, historically What of morals? decency? freedom? not specific ways of attaining/ keeping them but merely the ideals themselves? >people do want to work what people want and what people /do/ is often (usually) very different How would you help those with low self-motivation? >minimum wage bad >UBI good but not right now fairly reasonable Should immigrants be given UBI? >populism has been hijacked by socialists/ communists but what of populism proper? Poor people are very much ordinary folk who have fallen on hard times. Free handouts are unlikely to motivate them to self-improvement but w/o help they face an uphill battle. Suggestions? >Examples of good protectionism (kinda) >energy The US congress sanctions against Russian energy that would affect European countries is (according to many) a thinly-veiled ploy to secure US dominance in the energy sector Is this an appropriate level of protectionism?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502747275 137485097,137499932,2017-08-14 21:47:59,">>137485097 White nationalists are pretty stupid but so are SJWs, I think. You know, you just gotta realize both sides are equally bad when you really use logic to reach your conclusions instead of emotions. We could use more rational people making decisions in the world. Hell, we could use more rational people on THIS board. I see a lot of hateful stuff from time to time and let me just tell you, do you know how stupid you look? Pretty moronic, in fact.",,Anonymous,1500497645034.png,rOCql6LXoGwHvYynckXzyA==,,,1502747279 137485097,137500184,2017-08-14 21:49:52,">>137499876 I'M NOT A DAMN SOCDEM REEEEEEEEEEEEE >>137499585",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1502747392 137485097,137500377,2017-08-14 21:51:09,">>137499028 >surviving torture is an achievement sure, but it doesn't make you a good... anything >played well in my head isn't voting according to feeling literally how democracy in US turned into a popularity contest which (many agree) is terrible?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502747469 137485097,137500634,2017-08-14 21:53:04,">>137500377 >isn't voting according to feeling literally how democracy in US turned into a popularity contest which (many agree) is terrible? Absolutely, but there are scenarios that are preferable. For example, one where an individual shows actual courage in his past is better than one where an individual grew up in privilege and was borderline gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747584 137485097,137500943,2017-08-14 21:55:11,">>137500634 >showing courage >experience severe trauma flat better than >grew up in privilege >receive highest level of standards That's a tough sell m8",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502747711 137485097,137500965,2017-08-14 21:55:20,">>137485097 Okay you have sold me on this. I fucking hate ANTIFA but i cannot endorse the coonery of the Alt right. Where do i begin.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1502747720 137485097,137501180,2017-08-14 21:56:51,">>137500943 >receive highest level of standards Except you failed to mention who looked like a straight faggot. Unless perhaps that is a benefit in your book, as you are not American and prefer a weak America.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747811 137485097,137501185,2017-08-14 21:56:52,">>137485097 Centrists are fence-sitting fuckwits",,Anonymous,1496938015783.png,tZAfpku7lluYuZ21cbAD2A==,CA,,1502747812 137485097,137501243,2017-08-14 21:57:15,">>137497152 If you're about to start speaking, but first you scrunch up your face and loudly shit in your pants before uttering one word, you don't have a lot of room to criticize the folks who rightly walk away from you. History doesn't have a proud pantheon of diaperbabies with revolutionary ideas.",,Anonymous,1497141615676.jpg,fXFpx8AKpr/SJR9Am953Rg==,US,,1502747835 137485097,137501313,2017-08-14 21:57:43,">>137501185 I fucking can't stand them either. They are worse than Commies, and they usually are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747863 137485097,137501478,2017-08-14 21:58:43,">>137501243 >Instructs me on anything >Is a legit faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502747923 137485097,137501684,2017-08-14 21:59:56,">>137501180 I (and most of the world) would prefer a more ""team-player"" America (over a ""dictator"" America) The faggot part is pretty bad if you group him with those attention-whore faggots ""modest gays"" are usually fairly empathetic Shame the nigger sold out, that really killed him for me",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502747996 137485097,137501723,2017-08-14 22:00:11,Wow nice thread OP is off sucking a box of dick i take it.,,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1502748011 137485097,137501967,2017-08-14 22:01:32,">>137501723 you didn't hear? sucking boxed dick is in this fall",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502748092 137485097,137502005,2017-08-14 22:01:47,">>137486537 >Emmanuel Macron's popularity falls faster than any French president ever",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748107 137485097,137502316,2017-08-14 22:03:41,">>137499922 >a collusion among major industry-media leaders to manipulate public opinion No, thats bullshit. I probably side with the Gamergater folks, but that description may be one of the things this board overreacts and that you ended up believing. >morals? decency? freedom? not specific ways of attaining/ keeping them but merely the ideals themselves? Thats more of a social contract thing. Thats kind of what Libertarian do with the NAP, but much more reaching, involving taxes, crime laws, etc. By idolizing I meant not going to extremes in like Ancaps do with capitalism. Capitalism, freedom, etc, are good, but I wouldnt support child prostitution markets per example. >help those with low self-motivation? Well, there's nothing wrong in not working, you just have to live with a shitty government check to live your life. Radical Centrism is generally in favour of a reduced welfare state, or even abolishing it in favour of a NIT/UBI we talked about before. Macron, per example, is one of them in regards to shrinking the welfare state. Economists generally believe that should be done aswell. >Should immigrants be given UBI? Sure. High skilled workers will rarely depend on welfare anyway, and the lower skilled ones will be new consumers in this economy just as well as everyone. The main anti-immigration memes from the last times came from the Refugee Crisis, people on here need to understand that this is an extraordinary event, and even in Germany, per example, the economy is operating an a surplus despite all their refugees. Lauren Southern and etc, like to name some economists that are immigration ""skeptics"" but ignore that even they are saying that immigration is a net gain for the economy. >populism Populism for me is pretty much empty promises that fall on desperate ears. Ex: Trump telling that he is going to bring back manufacturing jobs from China to USA, when in reality even China itself is losing those jobs to manufacturing. (continuing in next post)",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748221 137485097,137502366,2017-08-14 22:04:01,">>137485097 >radical centrism No such thing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748241 137485097,137502508,2017-08-14 22:04:57,">>137502005 >centralized country >works because locals keep local while government handles coordination >let's help those who disrupt/ harass locals >oh no, my country hates me",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502748297 137485097,137502513,2017-08-14 22:05:00,">>137485097 how can centrism possibly be radical you faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748300 137485097,137502552,2017-08-14 22:05:18,">>137501684 >Shame the nigger sold out, that really killed him for me Honestly, I had zero issues with him being black or looking effeminate, that is why I opted out of voting when McCain ran. The Republican party found a way to run a more weaker candidate than the Democrat party. It was unbelievable! To be honest, America is blood-thirsty, and I love it. We're an empire, and we have a lot of interests world-wide, so we must rule with a sword, and be ready to use it often, and as violently as possible. His dronings didn't really bother me so much as his transgender bathrool policies and his racist stance with supporting Black Lives Matters. In addition to racking up the debt higher than any other previous president, negligible growth (what can be expected, he wasn't smart), low home ownership rates, high poverty rates, high unemployment numbers, high food stamp rates, and just being a general demagogue and virtue-signally faggot. Also, finding out that Michelle is a transvestite and that he consumed crack cocaine and received fellatio from men was an eye-opener.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748318 137485097,137502680,2017-08-14 22:06:07,">>137502552 >I opted out of voting when McCain ran Meant to say ""I opted out of voting when Romney ran""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748367 137485097,137502769,2017-08-14 22:06:45,">>137502680 >>137501684 >I opted out of voting when McCain ran Meant to say ""I opted out of voting when Romney ran""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502748405 137485097,137502878,2017-08-14 22:07:26,">>137502316 >>137499922 >populism Another example is Le Pen telling coal miners that their jobs would be back, while Macron straight up told them to their faces that their jobs unfortunately would never be back, and got booed. >Is this an appropriate level of protectionism? For the current climate, no not really. It is very common in times of war, maybe when it occurs that may be justifiable.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748446 137485097,137503232,2017-08-14 22:09:36,"For the memers here, I do not think ""muh both sides are equals"" or some other shit you nigs think centrists believe. I fucken hate communists more than I hate the alt-right right now",,Anonymous,8values.jpg,OIUXbN933pFrc7/8XeIxWQ==,,,1502748576 137485097,137503765,2017-08-14 22:13:13,">>137502316 >even China itself is losing those jobs to AUTOMATION Fixed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748793 137485097,137503959,2017-08-14 22:14:26,">>137485097 As a fascist I rate this thread 6,000,000/10!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502748866 137485097,137504469,2017-08-14 22:17:51,">>137502316 >gamergate was something else >you ate the bait would you mind setting my record straight? just the elevator-pitch >by idolizing I meant more those specific things that I don't like which I call idolizing >these other things have a different label double standards much? Everything must be tempered. Should some things be guiding ideals? which directions of society trump the hierarchy, in your opinion? >reduce welfare state >provide basic minimum a leave them to their own choices thereafter great in principal Are we assuming the basic minimum is so ""cheap"" to provide that we can do so for everyone with no real cost to society? If that basic minimum is tower blocks with small rooms and rice 3 meals a day with vitamin supplements, maybe I think they tried that in Soviet, they turn into ghettos, unsafe and self-perpetuating downwards spiral Do you see it ever turning out differently? >more consumers is good And if the consumption choices of low-skilled (low-educated) leads to these people reducing the average quality of society (back to ghettos problem)? >Populism is saying things that are popular with ordinary people >these things are lies usually as it's the easiest though it doesn't have to be but your point is valid >common in times of war it seems to be leading to war at the moment",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502749071 137485097,137505231,2017-08-14 22:22:42,">>137502552 yeh, he was a total twat in the end jumped on bandwagons and did nothing ro real substance The war stuff if alright, so long as it's done in backwater places The thing about empires is, they work better together, he should encourage ""reasonable"" competition, not turn it into single-player mode, imo",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502749362 137485097,137506104,2017-08-14 22:28:41,"Well adjusted citizen, bulwark of civilization, reporting in",,Anonymous,tfwtointelligent.png,Q63V3UeKdaExPxbP3sGSEg==,US,,1502749721 137485097,137506220,2017-08-14 22:29:34,"Bump What up freak bitches it's Joe Rogan time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502749774 137485097,137506825,2017-08-14 22:33:40,">>137504469 >would you mind setting my record straight? There were one or two women that traded good reviews for their games in exchange for sex. It is shitty but nothing ""major"" about that. There is nothing wrong with gamergame, just /pol/ blowing things out of proportion. Not even /v/ cared this much after the initial exposure. >Should some things be guiding ideals? Economic and social freedom, equality of opportunity (not outcome unlike SJWs want), almost absolute freedom of speech, freedom of movement of business and individuals. >which directions of society trump the hierarchy, in your opinion? what do you mean by that >so for everyone with no real cost to society? Nothing like the soviets, we already do it a some success in the west, and with future restrictions on welfare, being productive and working will still be a goal to most of the population. >unsafe and self-perpetuating downwards spiral And welfare isnt, in most cases, cyclical: example: a third of Americans are getting some sort of welfare assistance, but for 34% of those individuals they will receive benefits for less than 12 months. These people find themselves in some kind of shock, a sickness or a loss of a job, and straighten themselves out pretty quickly with the help that welfare can provide. Only 19% who go on welfare actually dependent, in that they get on welfare and stay on it for more than five years. >And if the consumption choices of low-skilled (low-educated) leads to these people reducing the average quality of society What do you mean, any examples >it seems to be leading to war at the moment Well, not necessarily. War with North Korea, just like with middle eastern shitholes, would hardly require any method of protectionism. Society tend to believe that a ""great war"" is always around the corner anyway. Specially people here on /pol/.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750020 137485097,137506920,2017-08-14 22:34:23,">>137506825 >gamergame Gamergate* fixed",,Anonymous,,,,,1502750063 137485097,137507939,2017-08-14 22:41:01,>>137489013,,Anonymous,dab😭.jpg,rH8uTpdvguaTbv+cpuJNuw==,US,,1502750461 137485097,137508585,2017-08-14 22:45:40,">>137485097 Popcorn brigade, sound off!!!",,Anonymous,popcorn.jpg,8Xo9Q5YWj2chIGefbh7yZQ==,US,,1502750740 137485097,137509002,2017-08-14 22:48:35,">>137486537 Macron? on aurait pas pu choisir quelqu'un d'autre pour représenter l'empiricism...quand même.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502750915 137485097,137509488,2017-08-14 22:52:02,I don't expect this to represent anyone else but myself.,,Anonymous,Rad Centrist.png,qxnVt69RofvWDpDJRzN/TA==,,,1502751122 137485097,137510491,2017-08-14 22:59:10,">>137509488 Nice meems Imma steal",,Anonymous,XbWQMD-tgyf6y4lvroMZ1xIAf7xIMOz5UEQhHfXjzEg.jpg,YnnYRG8/7SOXXrORyfhrsA==,,,1502751550 137485097,137511009,2017-08-14 23:03:23,">>137506825 >minor corruption isn't major true though hearing that I'm still happy the reaction was so visceral, it's good to nip these things in the bud early. the precedent is important >social freedom >almost absolute free speech and when it steps outside the norms of decency (eg ""degenerate"" ideas in public)? >free movement of businesses that's quite a globalist approach >free movement of people >added with UBI for immigrants seems risky >what do you mean When any (of the above mentioned) ideals are in direct conflict, which should have prioritized? Eg Company A moves business to Country B, people cannot afford to move, those that can have an advantage in opportunity >Nothing like the soviets only difference I'm hearing is ""it won't be forced on everyone, just those who don't have anything better"" Doesn't really get around the ghetto problem >being productive and working will still be a goal to most people sounds closer to naive optimism than rational extrapolation of human behavior >only 19% stay on welfare I'm inquiring as to how you envision reducing that number to (virtually) 0 If the 19% are concentrated in one area, (historically) that environment is a ghetto which self-perpetuates >examples poor, stupid people with nothing to do buy drugs and junk food reducing their future effectiveness and likelihood of escaping the viscous cycle of instant-gratification through addictive substances These kind of people in turn have lower living standards/ self-respect and take less care of their immediate surroundings, some turn to vandalism leading to shitty neighborhoods >war is only combat economic war in Europe?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502751803 137485097,137511129,2017-08-14 23:04:18,wtf I love /pol/ now,,Anonymous,,,,,1502751858 137485097,137512266,2017-08-14 23:12:45,">>137485097 Centrism is a falacy in political thought that all ideologies fall between two polar extreme opposites. This is exacerbated in the United States because of the two party system which creates a dichotomy of thought preventing alternative philosophy from being explored. Radical Centrism means literately nothing as it's only philosophy is to appease the ire of percieved danger. It would be better to say that you are non-combatants in the ideological war that the communists and the fascists seem bent on having. There are no notable radical centrist...since centrism is not a thing. Centrist is litteraly the slime of philosophy. Radical centrists do not exist since centrism is not a thing. Also claiming dead successful leaders as centrist to bolster you cause of appeasment is particularly sleasy... Mensa...really. Oh sweety...jpg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502752365 137485097,137513372,2017-08-14 23:20:56,">>137487224 That's literally libertarianism.",,Anonymous,1501903377252.png,qCIuMe0KQKBPaTMxXSS4Hw==,US,,1502752856 137485097,137514327,2017-08-14 23:27:37,">>137511009 >steps outside the norms of decency to be more precise, the current US speech laws are pretty much the model that I support. They look like their are open to a lot of extremes, but in reality it isn't really a problem in practice. There are groups that try to use it a ""evil"" way, like the Westboro nigs, but it is mostly a non-issue. >that's quite a globalist approach It is >seems risky Not really that much, it wont be necessarily a ""muh open borders"" thing, I talked about welfare as well before, same thing about Germany, as an example >which should have prioritized? Well thats the thing about centrism, things are complex and there isnt a ""hierarchy"" of principles to solve things. All on a case by case basis, that manage to reach the maximum possible number of people, with the minimum possible side effects. >only difference I'm hearing >naive optimism than rational extrapolation of human behavior How? Western nations have already a pretty decent welfare distribuction and that doesn't impact the population need for a job outside of those cases you see in the news like the ""random woman with 20 kids doesnt work and gets $1000 a month from the government"". There is nothing pointing out to a Soviet style problem of parasitism. >reducing that number to 0 We shouldn't. There will be ALWAYS some people on disability benefits, unemployment benefits, social security, etc. Its just like unemployment, it will never go down to literally zero unless you are forcing the people to work, like in the USSR. Structural unemployment guarantees that we will always have a non-zero number, and thats good for a healthy society. There are guettos, but there are other policies that target those groups instead of this being a ""welfare or no welfare"" issue. >examples That seems to be more of a cultural problems with some communities (like blacks) that have a garbage culture, no family support, etc the vast majority of welfare have time limits on them (out of characters)",,Anonymous,jfk.gif,/PIRoE4KB9RK7wwJY00uXg==,,,1502753257 137485097,137514513,2017-08-14 23:29:07,">>137501185 you just jelly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502753347 137485097,137516532,2017-08-14 23:44:16,">>137514327 >currently mostly a non-issue idk, seems like currently people in the US are using the whole ""free speech"" guise to cause havoc and the authorities have little to no regulations on how to deal with the situation (specifically referring to the increasing number of not-so-peaceful protests which all started around the BLM time) >it is what happened to protecting national interest? What would you recommend when entire industries leave certain countries? This whole jobs thing seems to be a big deal rn >same thing about Germany economic migrants are the problem, not refugees They won't stop even if their excuse/smokescreen goes away (the war in ME ends) I feel like you're actively putting your head in the sand here >case by case slow and inefficient, exactly the kind of mentality which lead to the poor management of refugee crisis (and will lead to more mismanagement of any other unforeseen event due to poor response time) >reach max ppl with min effect that's the easiest way to stagnate and slow progress by overburdening the system >western nations have it alright for now because they are not using your proposed system I'm saying your suggestions (which are changing the system) will lead to bad results and you're saying they wont because the current system (w/o the changes) works...??? what? >to 0 >literally zero >mfw I specifically put (virtually) to try and avoid you jumping on this easy strawman >mfw you do it anyway >other policies yes, those are the ones I was asking about Do you have any suggestions? >cultural problem >not heavily influenced by socioeconomic Even barring that, you have an idea on fixing culture through external means? I'm all ears. Afiak cultures can only mature on their own, internally, which seems to correlate when their conditions improve",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502754256 137485097,137516542,2017-08-14 23:44:22,I'm a bit confused here. I thought radical centrists rejected Keynesian economics.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502754262 137485097,137517711,2017-08-14 23:53:08,">open thread >walls of thoughtful discussion I love you OP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502754788 137485097,137518683,2017-08-15 00:00:50,">>137516532 >free speech the issue seems more about retards trying to restrict free speech like against conservatives, and naturally BLM. A free speech society will naturally always have retards complaining about ""too much free speech"". >what happened to protecting national interest? >entire industries leave certain countries? Is in the national interest for the national economy to specialize and leave others areas for other nations, like we have right now, US building planes, UK building ships, Thailand building shoes, China making t-shirts and cellphones. That way the economy has a bigger productivity and boost on its industry and is more apt do deal in the globalized economy, which since WW2 is an actual thing doesnt matter if economic nationalists accept it or not. Protectionism never helps an industry to develop also, its just a subsidy to form a bubble that will burst the moment those subsidies end. South american countries are basically the textbook version of failed decades of protectionism. >economic migrants are the problem, not refugees Isnt the center e the right in Europe already planning to return great part of those migrants to their countries as the crisis is ending? Macron also seems to be big on that recently. Germany appears to also be sending people back to Greece. >slow and inefficient How? In what? Wait arent we just talking about principles? >easiest way to stagnate and slow progress by overburdening the system Example in mind about this slow progress thing? >using your proposed system If a moderate welfare system works without people being forced into parasitism how would a slightly reduced welfare system result in a increased problem? Economists agree that with a NIT and the coming of automation this will be a much superior way to conduct welfare. >on this easy strawman But seriously, how do you think this is possible? Just like crime, there wont be any society or group that has 0% crime. Or 0% anything. (continue in next post)",,Anonymous,,,,,1502755250 137485097,137519601,2017-08-15 00:07:34,">>137516532 Unless youre really a massive ideologue you dont create policies thinking it will be 100% effective and completely curb a problem. >yes, those are the ones I was asking about >Do you have any suggestions? They involve a more fair way to distribute education for example. In the current way schools have their funding by districts, so wealthier districts have better schools than the poor ones, and poor students are more locked in this cyclical issue. There are solutions involving socio-economic quotas, but on this board it will obviously be too ""sjw"" to talk about. War on Drugs is another policy that affects the lower classes disproportionally. Welfare itself has been proven to be a policy that mostly breaks cyclical poverty, not perpetuates. >cultures can only mature on their own, internally, which seems to correlate when their conditions improve Well, I agree with that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502755654 137485097,137519897,2017-08-15 00:09:46,">>137485097 Radical >Radical >Radical lmfao, it's easy taking no sides and forming arguments around classical liberalism. In a perfect white homogenized world, maybe classical liberalism will work. But right now, your easy route will mean the dispossession of my people. No white people = no classical liberalism.",,Anonymous,iq by country.png,4qwKYQ94b2KPifLlsngkOw==,US,,1502755786 137485097,137520122,2017-08-15 00:11:33,Sage,,Sage,WTC7.gif,S8vqdMrS+QxhAUJqGvNTbA==,US,,1502755893 137485097,137520144,2017-08-15 00:11:42,">>137485097 >bigot >pervert",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502755902 137485097,137520236,2017-08-15 00:12:17,">>137519897 how can whiteys even compete with japs lel kill yourself untersmench",,Anonymous,,,,,1502755937 137485097,137521233,2017-08-15 00:19:53,">>137520236 First of all, show your home country you fucking larper. Second of all, Japs are not the dominant non white group in the US. America is filled with 80 iq non white ""untersmench"". Non whites will never share your esoteric views, all they want is gibz and see whitey die.",,Anonymous,1476480913377.png,rHKFzDNsmKaV2M6YG0IlAw==,US,,1502756393 137485097,137521479,2017-08-15 00:21:53,">>137501478 I'm not instructing you, honey-chile. You don't have the capability to be any better at anything you do. You're like a wizard tapped the phrase ""WAKE UP SHEEPLE"" with a magic wand, and you leaped off the page, fully-formed like a real boy. Just explaining why people who instantly disregard you are correct. Life is short, and you've never been right about anything.",,Anonymous,1497147174078.jpg,ogtuISoyg0UambdjZ73imQ==,US,,1502756513 137485097,137521726,2017-08-15 00:23:39,">>137486915 This is not in conflict because those ideas come from different ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502756619 137485097,137522522,2017-08-15 00:29:53,">>137485097 >Radical Centrist is rotated toward the right. #NOT A CENTRIST.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1502756993 137485097,137522739,2017-08-15 00:31:43,">>137521233 I'm from Somalia But if whites are so smart why do you think theyre getting cucked",,Anonymous,1501784156625.jpg,cRpS5iuO58i5lPHo27arGw==,,,1502757103 137485097,137522947,2017-08-15 00:33:24,">>137518683 >always have level of ""complaining"" approaching ""civil war"" no laws which can in any way handle the situation Your statement seems like more head in the sand >specialisation is good 1. we're back to the unequal opportunity (not everyone in america wants to/ can build planes, they're too poor to move, nowwat) You are prioritizing economic freedom of business over equal opportunity (which is how you get international monopolies, doesn't seem to be working out too well for the working class of.. anywhere) 2. different countries have different standards. you assume ""the invisible hand"" will force other countries to adapt to their customers? I say ppl ""learn to live with it"" when they are offered no alternatives (what alternatives when there are no possibilities for competing locally with international businesses?) >planning to return Ppl have no ID > return where? Greece doesn't want them (why should they?) Free movement = let them in and then deal Europe tried, now understanding better to control border >dealing with every single issue as it arises vs >having a rule for how to deal with types of issues Which is the method that lends itself to solving problems quickly, in your opinion? >explain >Let's help everyone >>but there's more and more >keep helping! >>everyone gets less and less >oh no, we don't have money for investment! >welfare >remove shame > more ppl sit on it seems logical to me >continue to go on about 0% Let's pretend I added *except all those obviously incapable such as the sick and lame >poor students except the students in poor districts /actively/ resist learning due to their behaviour/ upbringing caused by their socioeconomic situation at home which does not improve because they live in the ghetto where welfare allows those not willing to continue living like dirt Do you see what I'm getting at? >war on drugs poor use more, seems proportionate >agree conditions don't improve from external money (see: all of africa)",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502757204 137485097,137522954,2017-08-15 00:33:26,Do we have a discord?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502757206 137485097,137523190,2017-08-15 00:35:39,">>137520122 y'know what's funny? Even though it's obvious, nothing has changed people casually accepted that the WMDs were fake news and everyone went ""meh"" we're used to being buttfucked and lied to where are the tribunals? Looking at you, USA",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502757339 137485097,137523518,2017-08-15 00:38:31,">>137521233 East asians have work ethic, just lack initiative of germanic folk >>137522739 >person is nice/ charitable / trusting >abuse trust >hurr y u so stupid, stupid fucking somalian criminal pond-scum",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502757511 137485097,137523536,2017-08-15 00:38:37,">>137521233 Oh man, it's so strange that Germans aren't immigrating to the USA now that the Kaiserreich and the Nazis aren't in power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502757517 137485097,137524101,2017-08-15 00:43:19,">>137523536 >America is where you go when everything's gone to shit at home >mfw now it's Europe and it's gone to shit in poor stupid places >mfw the only solution is for war in US so we get all the civilized genes back that you poached in the 1900s >mfw DPRK and Trump are pro EU and nuclear war is clever ploy",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502757799 137485097,137524443,2017-08-15 00:46:23,">>137522947 >>137518683 >which allows those not willing to continue living like dirt *not willing to improve / don't have self-motivation etc",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502757983 137485097,137524633,2017-08-15 00:47:54,">>137524101 Honestly what are you talking about? Did you forget to take your meds? Yeah, America and modern Europe are safe havens for the world when there's trouble. Why shouldn't it be anything else but an ideal place to live?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502758074 137485097,137525525,2017-08-15 00:56:04,">>137522947 >""complaining"" approaching ""civil war"" >like more head in the sand How exactly?: What should be done here? There are two groups that want to harrass eachother, and me and most of society dont care if they do. >not everyone in america wants to/ can build planes what makes you think they are forced to do so? People dont have the right to DEMAND that they work on what they want. >You are prioritizing economic freedom of business duuuude what the business are the ones that favour globalization for cheaper labour, thats literally freedom of business. >doesn't seem to be working out too well for the working class of.. anywhere It is. Sweatshops arent bastions of humane conditions but their creation led to a creation of a huge middle class in asian countries (specially China) during the 90s til today. >Ppl have no ID > return where? Obviously I was never speaking about this retarded refugee without control crisis, I said about that in one of my first posts. Free movement with checks and balances, for low and high skilled workers, with the proper beurocracy. >Which is the method that lends itself to solving problems quickly, in your opinion? Elasticity? Instead of one size fits all? >oh no, we don't have money for investment! wait, what are you even talking about? Who doesnt have money for investment? >remove shame shame? >seems logical to me About what? the welfare thing? About the reform i talked about? Thats what the overwhelming opinion and research of economists agree >except all those obviously incapable such as the sick and lame I wasnt talking about the incapable. It is still impossible for a society to function as that, with some magical 0 welfare recipients able to work, unless you cut every single welfare policy for them. >except the students in poor districts /actively/ resist learning due to their behaviour Yeah, I'm gonna call you out on this one buddy. Thats some good bullshit. How many cases do you see of this happening? (next post)",,Anonymous,,,,,1502758564 137485097,137525978,2017-08-15 01:00:03,">>137524633 It's quite simple >Be European >Kill and conquer >Nobody can invade your homelands >Kill and conquer your European neighbor because there's nobody else worthy anymore >Also go find holiday home (America is born) >""Shit this is getting bad, let's go on holiday"" >Suddenly: morals >Start inviting non-europeans because they wanted a holiday home but never had the chance to make one because you already had all the best spots >Shit, these morons are ruining homeland >Holiday over After WW2 and during the rise of capitalism many high-skilled individuals moved to US Now they are spread thin and need to be regathered to keep propelling society Quickest/ most efficient course of action is to have WW3 except on North American / East Asian continent so that all the smart people flee to safe EU and boom, progress will be given another kick up the backside just in time for the digital/ robotic revolution (Industrial 2.0)",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502758803 137485097,137526235,2017-08-15 01:02:18,">>137522947 >where welfare allows those not willing to continue living like dirt Dude, thats literally fake news, my man Those things you mention dont happen as much as you believe they happen. Like I said, welfare is proven to BREAK cyclical poverty, not perpetuate them. >war on drugs reporting, sentencing, policing, are extremelly biased towards low income households. >conditions don't improve from external money (see: all of africa) They actually do a lot, you just didnt care to find out about it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502758938 137485097,137527787,2017-08-15 01:15:29,>>137485097,,Anonymous,1497531302891.jpg,GSt/uVqZC53V52G9mclYXg==,FI,,1502759729 137485097,137528014,2017-08-15 01:17:30,">>137527787 >lets be neutral on the subject So this is the power of mongolian education",,Anonymous,,,,,1502759850 137485097,137528037,2017-08-15 01:17:38,">>137525978 You should seriously see a therapist. Why can't we just train and help individuals become highly trained and educated in our countries regardless of their race or national background? I disagree that immigrants are ruining anything. Europe is still lovely, and has among the highest standard of living in the world. The fact that you see countries and lands as holiday homes instead of lands for people to live in and call their home is bizarre and disturbing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502759858 137485097,137528170,2017-08-15 01:18:41,>radical centrist,,ChinkHater,retard.gif,HJxhacUAyI8hHRI5x3zHXg==,MX,,1502759921 137485097,137528233,2017-08-15 01:19:21,"Their is no way around an authoritarian state and civil war. Sorry centrist, you had 25 years. You fucked it up by selling out to the (((neo liberals))), era of extremes ahead. With good luck short war, but with a multipolar world order it looks like a new 30 year war, world wide",,Anonymous,1466717592961.jpg,FBO6+IbNrL0yM1dbFVK8cA==,,,1502759961 137485097,137528411,2017-08-15 01:21:08,">>137528233 yeah any time now, buddy",,Anonymous,a-dead-soldier-of-the-german-wehrmacht-is-pictured-in-front-of-the-DKYTEA.jpg,eAIV4W+cX9ifmAvaK58H4w==,,,1502760068 137485097,137528654,2017-08-15 01:23:17,">>137485097 I'd rather be called a racist than a cuck. I have a very left (and very uninformed) friend of a friend who is moving some fat bitch and her kid out here to Cali from Idaho. I already knew he was an ignorant leftist but he is a LITERAL KEK you can't make this stuff up",,Anonymous,0e6.jpg,l/HK/oUVf7v4NliMt0x2+g==,US,,1502760197 137485097,137528705,2017-08-15 01:23:43,">>137485097 lets go, bro. radical centrist everyday",,Anonymous,,,,,1502760223 137485097,137528977,2017-08-15 01:26:11,">>>137528411 nice doubles, but if you are really a Somalian >>137522739 in Somalia, it will not really concern you as you will be busy keeping pic related away from cutting your dick off and eating your heart without any form of brbe coming from the west. If you are in the West, have fun finding that place that accepts a potential traitor who isn't 100% on their side. Especially a rational Nigger. And no, not saying it is going to happen tomorrow, but a decade is not really much in historical terms.",,Anonymous,donkeykong2.jpg,1huU/Mx0mHi2KCld35WTJQ==,,,1502760371 137485097,137529199,2017-08-15 01:28:23,">>137485097 jordan b peterson is the best example of a centrist. maybe not radical, but that why we are here, to put the radical in radical centrist",,Anonymous,,,,,1502760503 137485097,137529317,2017-08-15 01:29:37,">>137486537 our king",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502760577 137485097,137529423,2017-08-15 01:30:44,">>137528977 well if you really thought i was a somalian might aswell neck yourself",,Anonymous,1490984892646.gif,3SuaLvumW+yC2B+kSBmAog==,BR,,1502760644 137485097,137529509,2017-08-15 01:31:33,">>137487398 you fucking retard corny capitalism scocil democracy we are centrists that means that we don't have an ideology you stupid ideologue",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502760693 137485097,137529678,2017-08-15 01:33:15,">>137487949 No anon you're supposed to play on the joke that Macron is some sort of Far Right nutcase who wants to Genocide the Blacks, spinning his public presence, and completely ruining him in the eyes of the left, memeing the world into thinking he wants to kill all the blacks, however I guess you're just fucking incapable of any sort of fucking critical thinking, so you just decide to make some dumb fucking post that about how Macron is a weinie (which he is), because you haven't been posting on /pol/ likely for more than a few weeks and you came here from r/t_d and all you can think about is how he is not Marine Le Pen, which just goes to show you know absolutely nothing about /pol/ board culture, and care nothing about the community and the culture that has grown here over the years, pissing off the long time posters and oldfags, and basically ruining 4chan for fucking everyone, including yourself, because newfags like you don't fucking lurk, hell it used to be considered to be idiotic to not lurk for a few months, even a year wouldn't be considered crazy, but nope you get some link from r/t_d and just waltz the fuck on over to 4chan, hoping you can get in on those dank memes and get a bunch of (you)s and get on the front page of r/4chan because golly fucking gee look at all those (you)s! Those are like upvotes right? Remember to fucking include me in the screenshot guiz!!1!!1!!!1! And worst of all this makes shills even worse, since you are too fucking inept to recognize a blatantly obvious shill or slide thread and jsut keep on fucking posting instead of saging or ignoring like any resonable person who enjoys the board can fucking understand, but nope you decide to just be a dumb fucking newfag shit, not realizing that your presense is making it impossible to people genuinely interested to learn anything, since lurking will just show them the toxic shit you spew that has nothing to do with anything that is /pol/, and it's absolutely disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502760795 137485097,137529711,2017-08-15 01:33:35,"david simon knows whats up, watch the whole thing. not one ideology can solve every problem, you need both and in order to use both ideologies you have to be a centrist and if you want to see it in your life time, you have to be pretty radical, fuck the extremes https://youtu.be/ZYXNdELqCe4",,Anonymous,,,,,1502760815 137485097,137529831,2017-08-15 01:34:47,">>137529423 DESIGNATED MURDER DISTRICTS fuck, you are probably worse off than a Somalian. Whites, Blacks, Mullatos, Indios, Socialists, Fascists, communists and CIA in one country. I pity you. Guess the Putsch last year wasn't enough for you to see how fucked your country is if any bigger economic crash happens",,Anonymous,vroom vroom.jpg,fefXvD/b2QPFTB6UV2TjyQ==,,,1502760887 137485097,137530053,2017-08-15 01:36:55,">>137529831 I'm you, but in the future.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502761015 137485097,137530262,2017-08-15 01:38:56,">>137485097 Hold on one god damn minute... Obama is a ""radical centrist""? The fuck are you on?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502761136 137485097,137530398,2017-08-15 01:40:19,">>137501185 >falling for the false dichotomy",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502761219 137485097,137530401,2017-08-15 01:40:19,">>137509488 >socialized healthcare only thing i disagree with here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502761219 137485097,137530473,2017-08-15 01:41:10,">>137530053 Not if we can stop it, and everything looks like it will be stopped by a brutal police state and a bunch of camps, like last time. I hope the left does the same mistake as 1927 in October when we go Black/blue, else it could really come to a third great war on our land. Just one thing is sure, the centrism of the last 70 year is death, currently both sides try to pull the centre their way, and it is obvious what will happen when both pull to hard, it will break.",,Anonymous,1461080564117.jpg,ih2IPlA0+yWHOGucewp7Rg==,,,1502761270 137485097,137530620,2017-08-15 01:42:23,">>137530473 >like last time",,Anonymous,Soviet_flag_on_the_Reichstag_roof_Khaldei.jpg,kGy7JSy/KKEfIkCLqkko3w==,,,1502761343 137485097,137530683,2017-08-15 01:43:03,">>137530620 other germany faggot",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1502761383 137485097,137530988,2017-08-15 01:45:48,">>137530683 Come on, anon Just give in No one needs to die here",,Anonymous,Alexander_Van_der_Bellen_2016_cropped.jpg,nyfSO4jk9oPhNzyZgYzngg==,,,1502761548 137485097,137531017,2017-08-15 01:46:11,">>137485097 Radical Centrism is just globalism. Left is anarchy and Right is authoritarianism (or vice-versa it doesn't really fucking matter which direction) Identity politics are the tools of pseudo-intellectuals.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502761571 137485097,137531156,2017-08-15 01:47:37,">>137525525 >What should be done Impose zero-tolerance on violence (any in protest = no more protest) >most ... don't care Most just voted for Trump/ Hillary /specifically/ because of these two groups >demand Equal opportunity means (afaik) giving people the chances to work where they want and make a living doing so (not rich, just living) which is not possible if there are no jobs available in their area that fit their interests >literally freedom of business which is in /direct/ contradiction to personal economic freedom. Which social ideal should be prioritised (the original question a few posts back)? >creation of sweatshops has lead to middle-class Valid. >Free movement >controlled with checks and balances >Free ? >Elasticity >Quickly Elastic means having a rule to stretch There is no rule atm also >one-size fits all >checks and balances same principal (if you're being that reductionist) >Shame Living off unemployment benefits is currently viewed by society as failure to be a productive member of society (when done willingly) UBI would remove any sort of connotation and suddenly NEET isn't an insult, it's the new normal >logical The part about how if NEET is normal then more people will choose to be NEET (thus making it impossible to provide for the increased number of NEET) >0 Policy should /strive/ to reduce the able number which /stay/ on welfare to 0 >How many cases >Go to school >>but why, fuck school, imma skip Attendance records for low income areas >welfare breaks cycle Any aid will help escape poverty for those who are willing. Those who are not will not be motivated by receiving welfare. The issue is with the latter. Welfare is not a solution there. What is? >biased towards low income households low income households consume more drugs so they are targeted more. I'm not sure where the bias is. If one are has more crime then that's the area where there should be more police >care to find out # of starving children has increased post-charity",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502761657 137485097,137531212,2017-08-15 01:48:09,">>137531017 anarchy is a choice authoritarianism is a choice globalism is a reality of living in a information age we are just adjusting to the times famalan",,Anonymous,,,,,1502761689 137485097,137531215,2017-08-15 01:48:12,">>137531017 >Radical Centrism is just globalism. >Left is anarchy and Right is authoritarianism (or vice-versa it doesn't really fucking matter which direction) Fucking lol kid. >Identity politics are the tools of pseudo-intellectuals. Congrats on saying 1 thing that wasn't fucking retarded.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502761692 137485097,137531436,2017-08-15 01:50:25,">>137486906 >>137487393 He's not a cuck, he's kiked.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502761825 137485097,137531569,2017-08-15 01:51:48,">>137530988 >Voter Fraud >Former Radical Communist >Now Islamist Doesn't support your argument. And btw, the joke has no power, literally non, well he can decide which wine he orders and fag he smokes, but thats about it. Every other use of his potential powers will lead to a counter reaction by civil society as the rest of the political institution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502761908 137485097,137531694,2017-08-15 01:53:03,">>137485097 How do you feel about Libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502761983 137485097,137531752,2017-08-15 01:53:39,">>137528037 >therapist for empathy training? >regardless of background cultural differences (apparently) don't allow for it >disagree >lovely Is that rock comfortable to live under? The streets are no longer safe to walk at night in many German cities (EU country with highest standard of living), especially for women and white men /specifically/ because of the assaults by migrants. >holiday homes instead of [real] homes >bizarre and disturbing call it what you will, the population movements remain the same",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502762019 137485097,137531795,2017-08-15 01:54:11,">>137531694 fuck all ideologues",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502762051 137485097,137531985,2017-08-15 01:56:00,When will things get better? Are we doomed believing in some sort of philosopher ran society that Plato thought of forever? It seems humans will largely always be retarded.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502762160 137485097,137532094,2017-08-15 01:57:05,">>137531795 Fair enough. Usually find myself leaning to the right more but I usually consider myself centrist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502762225 137485097,137532195,2017-08-15 01:58:07,">>137531985 >It seems humans will largely always be retarded. let me guess you are not one of those my little special snowfag. Pick a side or take the rope way out",,Anonymous,,,,,1502762287 137485097,137532391,2017-08-15 02:00:04,">>137499876 >en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism You are literally leftists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502762404 137485097,137532424,2017-08-15 02:00:30,">>137531795 >fuck all ideologues So according to what system of believes or school of thought do you live? >ib4 look at my flag",,Anonymous,,,,,1502762430 137485097,137532573,2017-08-15 02:02:00,">>137485097 >Radical Centrism Can't tell if trolling or stupid",,Anonymous,oxymoron_examples.png,WLiSpbzOyo9Qiw0K8DPA9g==,US,,1502762520 137485097,137532598,2017-08-15 02:02:13,">>137532424 according to radical centrism",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502762533 137485097,137532658,2017-08-15 02:02:49,">>137532195 Of course I'm not, I know what it really means to understand another human and work towards building bridges. The problem is that you can't pick a side without enabling fucking morons. I chose to side with the right because the Marxists are useful idiots and now the retarded Nazis feel empowered and are being stupid. All detrimental to a good society, all the absolute anti thesis of what America is supposed to be.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502762569 137485097,137532725,2017-08-15 02:03:18,">>137531795 >lets not stand for anything n shieeet Then what the hell is centrism even about? A lack of ideologue is still ideologue.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502762598 137485097,137532795,2017-08-15 02:03:55,">>137485097 Adam Smith, one of the great moral philosophers and political economists of the Scottish Enlightenment era, offers some practical advice in his book, the ""Theory of Moral Sentiments."" Moderation in our social interactions, Smith explains, enables us to relate to and understand one another. A commitment to moderation, even and especially when the distance between our positions is quite large, is the best strategy for not only coexisting with others but also ensuring that others hear our positions and sympathize with them. Moderation does not necessarily mean adopting moderate policy positions. Smith is not suggesting we compromise our political views and values. Instead, he is suggesting that we think about how we present these views and values to others and how we characterize those who disagree with us. It's a reminder to think of our political opponents as human beings, seek connection and embrace comity. In order to get sympathy or commiseration from others we moderate our expression of our feelings and actions so that others can better understand and approve of our actions. If we fail to garner sympathy, we can learn from this experience and adapt accordingly. Our social interactions, if they are to be pleasant and productive, must involve this process of moderation and adjustment. If political discourse is viewed as a battle of ideas, political life will be about winning ideological wars and not about addressing our common concerns. If we are unwilling to put in the work of garnering or giving sympathy, we will not discover strategies for better relating to one another, and avoiding polarization. The way out of our current political climate is not to seek total victory against the opposing party. Instead, it is to seek recognition and understanding, and to cultivate sympathy for one another. In order to do this, we must be willing to follow Smith's advice to moderate, not our views or political positions, but our political expressions.",,Anonymous,jpO9Hc9.jpg,lJ3wjF11K1f5X56BKIXMfw==,US,,1502762635 137485097,137532816,2017-08-15 02:04:07,">>137532725 delet this",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502762647 137485097,137532864,2017-08-15 02:04:30,">>137531215 idk anon, he sounds spot on the money here (if you go by the means of attaining each side's goal) if Right were labeled conservative and Left as progressive it's clear the sides will switch tactics depending on the current climate Nonetheless Centrism is about expanding the Federation to encompass everyone equally",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502762670 137485097,137532923,2017-08-15 02:05:08,">>137532598 So you are a lefty who hopes that their definition of centre will survive another decade. Do you realize, that the centre is deserted while one half of your allies are fighting about which interpretation of Marx should be followed, while the other half is fighting with the right in the mud, becoming more fascist every day. Deal with it, the centre is not where it was for the last 70 years. And btw, that still and ideology, even a radical, as you say yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502762708 137485097,137533009,2017-08-15 02:05:55,">>137532923 i really couldn't care less about goy coutnries",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502762755 137485097,137533262,2017-08-15 02:08:17,">>137532658 You can build as many bridges as you like, if there is just one who is willing to blow them up, you lose. And stop with painting yourself as someone who isn't subverted by a believe system, you are the root of the problem, a bunch of ivory tower Niggers who discard everything that is not in there narrow believe. Where do you think those who you deem to left or too right go? They will not bend the knee, they will crush you while running against each other",,Anonymous,,,,,1502762897 137485097,137533348,2017-08-15 02:09:04,">>137485097 wait, what can be so radical about centrism?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1502762944 137485097,137533402,2017-08-15 02:09:39,">>137533009 Natioanlist Zionist for greater Isarel?",,Anonymous,MIGA.jpg,Q433E3/BIUcVdY+z05jnJw==,,,1502762979 137485097,137533431,2017-08-15 02:09:54,>>137485097,,Anonymous,1502427132705.jpg,v8Z8Sny5n70AwAUAynNpWQ==,,,1502762994 137485097,137533468,2017-08-15 02:10:25,">>137485097 Radical Centrist = Leftist Faggot Die in a fire.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502763025 137485097,137533515,2017-08-15 02:10:50,">>137533402 >founding father of Zionism the idea of Jews returning to Zion exited since the the first exile",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502763050 137485097,137533527,2017-08-15 02:10:55,">>137485097 radical centrism is an oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502763055 137485097,137533635,2017-08-15 02:11:50,">>137531752 Documentation of these assaults? I'm not being sarcastic, i genuinely want to see articles. Displaced populations have been traumatized and it is of course more difficult for them to integrate into a foreign society, especially with such a large influx of immigrants. Germany seems to have made a mess of their program, and has taken far more refugees than they can handle, apparently.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502763110 137485097,137533783,2017-08-15 02:13:15,fucking blairites,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502763195 137485097,137533811,2017-08-15 02:13:33,>that enlighten feeling when you spot your own confirmation bias before settling,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502763213 137485097,137533829,2017-08-15 02:13:43,">>137485097 Original Italian Fascism, which is Corporatism, is radical centrism",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502763223 137485097,137533838,2017-08-15 02:13:47,">>137533515 Well o.k, historical accuracy aside, Am I right in the assumtion, that a radical yidish centrist in Israels centrisme is defined by more land for Israel and kill all arabs, or enslave them if the UN gets pissy",,Anonymous,,,,,1502763227 137485097,137534065,2017-08-15 02:16:04,">>137533838 raical centrism is not moderacy as a radical centrist i believe killing all arabs wll probably be a bad idea but just taking all thier land and and fakign antishemtism in the united states so the jews will come back for a Jewish super majority is the best way to go",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502763364 137485097,137534127,2017-08-15 02:16:42,"Has the issue of political propaganda gotten uncontrollable because of the Internet, and is it even possible to control without heavily regulating content? From both sides, we see what appears to be staggering amounts of conspiracies, fake news, etc. Things that were once widely accepted, like vaccine safety, are being discredited via bunk infographs that soccer moms share on Facebook, to the detriment of our societies. (I use vaccines as an example, you can go from anything as simple as that to Alex Jones-tier child sex colonies on the moon). The ideal would be that conspiracy theories would be exposed to the light of critical group thinking. But we see the opposite; peopl get hunkered down in echo chambers, and critical thinking flies out the window to be replaced by emotions. Is this something that we can overcome, or is it too ingrained in our genetics to be susceptible to false info? How do we fix it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502763402 137485097,137534180,2017-08-15 02:17:14,">>137531156 >(any in protest = no more protest) on paper this is already what happens >Most just voted for Trump/ Hillary most people didnt voted at all. >demand great if they find a job they want, but the world doesnt work that way. work is work, its not supposed to be a ice cream selection. >/direct/ contradiction it isnt, they're not. >Free >? Thats a semantics problem then, I dont support immigration on its own without decent border control, checks, etc Maybe i used that to contrast with people here that are against immigration in basically all cases >Elastic >There is no rule atm Doesnt really even matter to me, i dont even know what we are really arguing with this >NEET isn't an insult, it's the new normal Well great, but that doesnt really speak to the truth of the welfare business, that isnt motivated by feels, but rather by economics >The part about how if NEET is normal then more people will choose to be NEET Again, the dynamics of welfare isnt motivated about feels or about how they are viewed. People that want to live like parasites will live like that no matter what society thinks of them. >Policy should /strive/ to reduce the able number which /stay/ on welfare to 0 It should, but it never will >but why, fuck school, imma skip I hope youre not trying to put the shitty school districts problem behind this one? >escape poverty for those who are willing >Welfare is not a solution there. What is? And as far as the welfare records show, most people are willing. There is no solution for them. They will receive their proper checks up to their respective cap, if they are pass the period of receiving it and still havent found a living, they will die of hunger. >low income households consume more drugs so they are targeted more individuals from lower classes still receive longer prison sentences than the same individuals of higher income areas. This is specially true when it comes to blacks. >starving children has increased sauce?",,Anonymous,20170401_MAC846.png,xmZWlCc7PEnjvS8z8oKUyA==,,,1502763434 137485097,137534224,2017-08-15 02:17:54,">>137534180 >>137531156",,Anonymous,y5650e06.gif,oUCqyjmZIqJSpeIL3O0cCA==,,,1502763474 137485097,137534293,2017-08-15 02:18:39,">>137533635 >articles https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9934/germany-rape-january Literally google, what am I, your mother? Do your own homework >trauma >difficulties Giving excuses does not excuse morally and legally wrong behavior Nothing excuses that behavior Civilised people are thankful to those who aid them in times of need These people are not being thankful, they are abusing generosity I'm sure there's a very low circle of hell for that somewhere in Dante's mind >made a mess >accepting more than can handle It's quite simple Germany offered space to refugees Economic migrants and opportunistic parasites decided to hitch a ride The situation was dire and action was needed immediately There was little thought given to actually vetting people >oh god! how could you think of interrogating these poor traumatised people to see if they really are who they claim?! have you no heart or soul or morals?! You cannot shift the blame onto the Good Samaritan for being naive",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502763519 137485097,137534381,2017-08-15 02:19:35,">>137534065 So basically a neo liberal pussy who will argue for peace when his country gets swarmed with kamikaze burkas. Got it, opinion discarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1502763575 137485097,137534515,2017-08-15 02:21:06,">>137490135 Surprised that guns steel and germs book isn't on there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502763666 137485097,137534567,2017-08-15 02:21:42,">>137534381 neo liberalism is an ideolegy to you know",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502763702 137485097,137534763,2017-08-15 02:23:48,">>137532923 >centre is deserted >more people didnt vote than hildawg/trump combined",,Anonymous,1502607704106.gif,f+HE5i++Lru9Obco/IiE6g==,US,,1502763828 137485097,137534826,2017-08-15 02:24:36,">>137532424 >>137532725 >believing in things because of principles instead if they work or not look at this nig >A lack of ideologue is still ideologue. deep you can still hate niggers",,Anonymous,1456411522507.png,BreNesP5RZzcPkVsJ1DIFw==,,,1502763876 137485097,137534842,2017-08-15 02:24:50,">>137485097 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes What were his solutions for stagflation trough?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502763890 137485097,137535090,2017-08-15 02:27:46,>outlived the libertarian thread,,Anonymous,1421863598664.jpg,d7k8PiBbDJRf/GCkvrQCgw==,,,1502764066 137485097,137535416,2017-08-15 02:31:20,">>137534842 http://www.pieria.co.uk/articles/was_keynesianism_discredited_in_the_1970s",,Anonymous,,,,,1502764280 137485097,137535538,2017-08-15 02:32:50,">>137532573 None of those are proper examples of oxymorons outside the figurative usage of the word. Crony Capitalism is a proper example of an oxymoron. It's a definable contradictory impossibility, rather than just grammatical improbability. It's just a buzzword for corporate socialism. Radical Centrist would imply ""left-leaning"". Globalism is left-leaning. That's why a religion person that strays from the group and acts alone is referred to as radical. However, radical Islam is almost an oxymoron itself because Quran enables it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502764370 137485097,137535636,2017-08-15 02:33:58,">>137535416 Interesting, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502764438 137485097,137535709,2017-08-15 02:34:55,">>137533262 Hmm good point maybe I will just work to keep putting you dumbasses down whenever possible",,Anonymous,1502576918438.jpg,ufNjxmNB7FBEsJlfwOD7sA==,US,,1502764495 137485097,137535801,2017-08-15 02:35:52,">>137519897 The use of IQ tests to measure innate intelligence is inherently flawed, because it assumes that one's intelligence is a static measure, and completely uninfluenced by any cultural, environmental, or other socioeconomic factors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502764552 137485097,137535843,2017-08-15 02:36:25,">>137535709 but they didn't help Germany",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1502764585 137485097,137535850,2017-08-15 02:36:33,">>137534180 On paper seems to be working great with the increasing number of violent protests, huh? Most people never vote. Not a valid point. Work is work seems to be moving away from equal opportunity. Some people prefer certain fields. If those are the fields available they have an advantage. Personal economic freedom increases with choices. Business freedom reduces local choices. Immigration with checks is good. Totally agree. The argument was whether it's better to decide on each person individually or have a system that automatically culls certain types of individuals (back to any immigrant vs useful immigrant, we seem to agree though so no argument) My very acute point is that the economists who all agree and have data to back it up are not relevant here. They say that welfare helps people escape poverty. This relies on the assumption that said people are trying to escape. If NEET is normal then there will be less people trying and the theory is no longer applicable. Policy must strive to actually have impact. Reality is worked around when it does not fit the ideal rather than accepted. That is how things improve because the new normal can only be set by that which policy strives for. If policy accepts the current situation then the situation will not change. You say that poor districts have bad school and I'm saying the schools are bad not /only/ because they are poorly equipped but also because the parents are not properly motivating their children. Back to welfare statistic showing that people are willing. This is only true in a society where there are many external factors which /force/ people to ""be willing"" such as social stigma. This will be much less true with UBI. I'm totally there with you on the starving bit, good riddance. Those that are more serious offenders must be punished more harshly. This is supposed to set an example. It may be failing but it's fair. Your graphs say that Africa has more starving now. See 2nd ""Numbers""",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502764593 137485097,137535869,2017-08-15 02:36:41,">>137485097 >>137535090 I posted this yesterday and this comes back today? spooky",,Anonymous,1476084901527.jpg,4oiI68WHtsBmnlYuAfneFw==,US,,1502764601 137485097,137535983,2017-08-15 02:38:11,">>137535709 >Two front war I hope you are a better military strategist and tactician than the whole German Military combined",,Anonymous,,,,,1502764691 137485097,137536166,2017-08-15 02:40:28,">>137534826 >following a set of proven practices >doesn't eventually develop into an ideology for the ease-of-understanding-by-the-masses convenience >which eventually devolves because the practices are remembered and spread better/quicker than the rational behind them >What is religion for 500",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502764828 137485097,137536541,2017-08-15 02:44:26,">>137535538 Wow anon, I was just going to say that! Although >Deafening silence >Alone together are oxymorons given meaning later to describe social situations same for >Open secret >Living dead I'd also put in the oxymoron buzzword, even if it's an established meaning",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502765066 137485097,137536788,2017-08-15 02:47:09,">>137535801 This argument is inherently flawed because it relies on saying averages are influencable and ignores the differences in maxima/minima for various ethnic groups",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502765229 137485097,137536907,2017-08-15 02:48:31,">>137487032 Funny, the commies say that about moderates too. Who's gonna support your regime change LARPer?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502765311 137485097,137537359,2017-08-15 02:53:45,">>137527787 Wow, you're the first guy to post an overused smuggy from some shitshack facebook page!",,Anonymous,,,,,1502765625 137485097,137537687,2017-08-15 02:57:15,">>137535850 >a set of proven practices Practices may be proven at one time, but circunstances may lead them to change, unlike people still following some ideology from the 1800s and other wanting to live their life in a way a bunch of slavers in the 1700s wanted them to do. Maybe in the next five years the world is so changed and macroeconomics becomes irrelevant, I wouldnt preach that shit anymore. >>137535850 >paper seems to be working great Well thats the thing, what else is to be done? On paper what you want already is the norm. >people never vote. Not a valid point. Why not? I'm very sure most people really dont care about nazis and commies harrasing eachother now and then. >people prefer certain fields. If those are the fields available they have an advantage. I hope they find their job, but public policy isn't about individual individuals working on coal or steel, is about the best effecient way to get resources. >Business freedom reduces local choices. You are increasing the choices somewhere else and helping in the productivity and specialization of your own country, as well as another country. We are not talking about IT, or services, or art, we are talking about raw industry. >better to decide on each person individually or have a system that automatically culls certain types of individuals You mean about immigration? I didnt even know all those posts on this subject were about it. If so, sure, I agree. >If NEET is normal then there will be less people trying Why do you think this is true? Gut feeling? People dont refuse to get welfare and not to work just because it isnt acceptable. Welfare isnt some public stuff that you can easily check on personal accounts. And to be frank, welfare and NEETS is pretty much already acceptable. >If policy accepts the current situation then the situation will not change. I'm just being realist/pessimist on this issue. Crime wont go down to zero. Healthy welfare recipients wont go down to zero either. (cont)",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1502765835 137485097,137538644,2017-08-15 03:07:24,">>137535850 > I'm saying the schools are bad not /only/ because they are poorly equipped but also because the parents are not properly motivating their children. But the schools being bad isnt about students attending it. It is ENTIRELLY based on taxation on its own districts. >This is only true in a society where there are many external factors which /force/ people to ""be willing"" such as social stigma UBI isnt a ""upgrade"" from welfare for them. It will hardly be a decent living on its own. People wont lower their standards just because it became acceptable. >Those that are more serious offenders must be punished more harshly No. Men, for example, receive much longer sentences on average than women do for the same offence. You wouldnt disagree with that? Thats the same thing with lower classes and blacks. Same crime, different sentencing. >See 2nd ""Numbers where",,Anonymous,WHITED.jpg,JYe0TDpJpf+H1ROB9pgSMw==,BR,,1502766444 137485097,137539740,2017-08-15 03:19:16,">>137537687 Practices relevant now must be implemented asap. It's easier to have people accept them as ideologies. If what is on paper is not working more must be done to ensure the results translate to real life It's not valid because ""live with what you've got"" is not an efficient way of progressing The most efficient way to get resources does not align with the ideal of personal economic freedom which bring me right back to the original question: Which ideology do you prioritise for society? >Check back near the start of the when you gave a list for things you believe should be idolised, I'm still curious. This is getting back to the whole globalism thing. Are you in favor of turning the entire globe into one mega-Federation of states? We can broaden the topic, seeing as immigration is dealt with. Having a system as opposed to deciding case-by-case is the reason currency exists, for example. How is ""one-size-fits-all"" (as you so dutifully reduced the position to) not the more efficient option? I see it as the logical extrapolation of human behavior. If the UBI is high enough to provide for all the basic needs of your typical good-for-nothing-leech-on-society (internet + junk food) then more people will choose to do so because the human brain is easily drawn into a viscous cycle of instant-gratification which is made all the more potent by companies that currently specialise in making junk food tasty and time-wasting apps entertaining. Being NEET is only currently acceptable to other NEETs, same as ghettos accept niggers. Not valid. Obviously there will always be crime, that's what the police are for. Equally there must always be attempts to reduce crime. It's never okay to say ""this is fine, it's how it is"" Except the issue isn't that the school is bad, regardless of taxation. The issue is the students are not willing to learn. People's minimum standards and what society can provide for free are practically identical (see internet+junk food money) (cont)",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502767156 137485097,137540689,2017-08-15 03:30:16,">>137538644 Although I am very much not in favor of the situation with men and women on an emotional level and although we could get into how the entire US prison system is terrible because it prioritises punishment over rehabilitation the point stands. More men rape so all men must be made strongly aware that rape will lead to bad times. Additionally men are more likely to be repeat offenders than women after being released. There are psychological explanations for this which I will dutifully write out if you desire but it still stands. Those that, as a group, cause more damage must, individually be punished more. I wouldn't even say it's the right kind of fair but I would like to hear you proposal on fixing that kind of disparity. Clearly the sentencing for rape is adequate so then should female rapists be given harsher punishments? Back to blacks and drugs. If you reduce the punishment on poor-area folk they will be back sooner and continue to perpetuate that system. Here it is even more valid because the neighborhood, unlike with rapists, has a drug scene and as such the removal of offenders in a harsh manner will impact the community on a personal level. In richer communities where this is less prevalent there will be a lessor effect and thus the punishment becomes disproportionate to the goals sought (to fix the community, not the individual). I could entertain the notion that the community can only be fixed properly by making the individuals better but we're back to rehabilitation vs punishment again. >numbers The part where it says ""Changes in number of undernourished"" there has either been minimal progress or a setback in all but East Africa. The proportion part is not applicable seeing as I said ""more # of starving children""",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502767816 137485097,137540847,2017-08-15 03:31:58,">>137539740 In have to do some things and take a shit so im just gonna do a quick rundown >Are you in favor of turning the entire globe into one mega-Federation of states? no. I'm still fairly patriotic and I dont wish to be integrated closer to some socitieties in africa, middle east, russia and asia for example. That doesnt mean economically i'm not in favor of a more integrated world. Its not a problem trading with Saudis, it is a problem with them having a official invested voice on policy in my country. >""one-size-fits-all"" not the more efficient option? It is more effective, I was talking about elasticity before when talking about how some policies are made, not based on a single value but rather as a ""sweet spot"" between freedom, security, and economic values, that sweet spot decided on an issue by issue basis. As for UBI you may be overestimating its pay and underestimating the human dignity, brb gonna take a shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1502767918 137485097,137541177,2017-08-15 03:35:52,">>137540689 What is your case study for strict and punitive drug enforcement reducing drug use?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502768152 137485097,137541764,2017-08-15 03:42:35,">>137541177 I think drugs should be legalised, controlled and taxed. /all/ of them Yeh we'll have a couple of generations where everyone goes insane but after that it's fairly reasonable to assume people will get bored To be perfectly honest the idea that sending petty drug dealers to prison will in some way shape or form curb drug use is ludicrous as the dealers are merely desperate poor people getting money in the easiest way possible This is similar to how life gets better for prostitutes the more government regulation there is in the industry If drug dealers had unions there would be minimal fuss of street violence around drugs. Is it possible that there will be more violent crime related to people under the influence of drugs? sure but then it is definitely correct to have very harsh punishment for those who harm others through poor management of substances (if a drunk hurts someone they should equally be held liable) Eventually people will learn. Also self defense course and non-lethal weapons should be provided freely by the state with harsh penalties for abuse",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502768555 137485097,137542682,2017-08-15 03:52:50,">>137539740 >Except the issue isn't that the school is bad, regardless of taxation. The issue is the students are not willing to learn. It is, having proper staff, equipment, teachers, etc, is a great advantage wealthier kids have over poor kids. And frankly, I'm not too invested in this issue to care about nigger culture and their culture of not valuing education, the kids that dont care about it dont have me overly concerned. The problem is the kids that do value it, but are locked in shitty schools in shitty destricts. >(see internet+junk food money) well thats isnt living standards, people wont live with that shit on strictly welfare >More men rape so all men must be made strongly aware that rape will lead to bad times. Well, thats a faulty premise at its birth. You dont see women raping more because they receive lesser sentencing and you dont see men raping less because they are punished more. It takes one second to see that it isn't working. Same thing with blacks and drugs example. Its is circular logic. There are no results being shown. >The part where it says ""Changes in number of undernourished"" Sure but the ""charities"" are strongly targeting Sub-Saharan Africa, that had its numbers decreased since the 90s. Thats not even talking about other stats like GDP growth that since then skyrocketed with some actual financial aid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502769170 137485097,137542704,2017-08-15 03:53:07,">>137539740 >Except the issue isn't that the school is bad, regardless of taxation. The issue is the students are not willing to learn. It is, having proper staff, equipment, teachers, etc, is a great advantage wealthier kids have over poor kids. And frankly, I'm not too invested in this issue to care about nigger culture and their culture of not valuing education, the kids that dont care about it dont have me overly concerned. The problem is the kids that do value it, but are locked in shitty schools in shitty destricts. >(see internet+junk food money) well thats isnt living standards, people wont live with that shit on strictly welfare >More men rape so all men must be made strongly aware that rape will lead to bad times. Well, thats a faulty premise at its birth. You dont see women raping more because they receive lesser sentencing and you dont see men raping less because they are punished more. It takes one second to see that it isn't working. Same thing with blacks and drugs example. Its is circular logic. There are no results being shown. >The part where it says ""Changes in number of undernourished"" Sure but the ""charities"" are strongly targeting Sub-Saharan Africa, that had its numbers decreased since the 90s. Thats not even talking about other stats like GDP growth that since then skyrocketed (in some) with some actual financial aid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502769187 137485097,137543744,2017-08-15 04:04:50,">>137540847 Once you hand over the entire industry to a nation that nation will have power over you. That is where your specialisation leads. Not long ago efficiency of resource gathering in raw industry was top of your list and now we're talking of sweet spots between freedom, economy and security. Sounds very wishy-washy to me (like you have no idea what you're on about) I think you're underestimating how close we are to being able to provide something your average human will be perfectly content with wallowing in while they lament over how unfair it is that some people (those that work) get better stuff and the next minute returning to their gaming and energy drinks. It's not that expensive anymore, Anon and people are very eager to wallow while being drip-fed addiction satisfiers (see: bread & circus) >>137542704 The available resources are not adequate to attain a proper education in poor areas of the nation. Sounds like the exact problem Common Core was developed for. I'm not sure that's working too well either. Thoughts? Again, I honestly believe ""strictly welfare"" is steadily improving to the point where that is not an unreasonable expectation. Your circular logic argument does not say anything about whether punishing less will increase or decrease the number of rapes / drugs. Where is your point on the issue of less crime? Is it not fairly logical that if you reduce punishments then crime will increase because it will be seen as less risky/ more worth it? That's kind of my point Anon. Charities (ie free handouts aka welfare) don't do squat while targeted investment by outsiders to improve infrastructure and build the foundations can lead to economic growth and thus indirectly improved conditions all-round",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502769890 137485097,137544920,2017-08-15 04:18:26,">>137509488 Good stuff",,Anonymous,,,,,1502770706 137485097,137545422,2017-08-15 04:24:08,">>137543744 >Once you hand over the entire industry to a nation that nation will have power over you. That is where your specialisation leads. No. Industries dont disappear and leave nothing on its place. 1st world countries are still growing, but on other specialized fields, like the arms, technology, etc while china gets for example smartphones and air conditioners. China is also trading its industries with the southeast asian coutries for a more dedicated and efficent comparative advantage. >resource gathering in raw industry > freedom, economy and security what do these topics have to do with eachother? we arent talking about industries and domestic policy making in the same argument. >returning to their gaming and energy drinks >that expensive anymore I'm curious, how much do you think the average welfare recipent gets? >Common Core >I'm not sure that's working too well either What do you think that is? This board has a really retarded view of Common Core. >Again, I honestly believe meh >is steadily improving It isn't really >does not say anything about whether punishing less will increase or decrease the number of rapes / drugs Your whole logic is based that more sentencing reduces crime, isnt it? How is that? Thats literally social justice. You are punishing an individual more over the actions of his whole group. Thats literally SJW logic, but favoring the wealthy instead. >targeted investment by outsiders This target investment is literally welfare by the western governments. Even when lending money, the African governments never pay it and get pardoned all the time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502771048 137485097,137545784,2017-08-15 04:28:03,">>137543744 >>137545422 anyway, whatever, I'm going to sleep take care anon",,Anonymous,1488162230149.jpg,jFDJxQmD6NtB8IHo1jCWqQ==,,,1502771283 137485097,137545842,2017-08-15 04:28:45,">>137545784 It was fun, take care you filthy centerist o/",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502771325 137485097,137545927,2017-08-15 04:29:45,">>137545422 btw if anyone agrees with any of this I'll happily keep ripping it to shreds",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502771385 137485097,137546198,2017-08-15 04:33:00,">>137545842 >>137545927 before going to sleep, what you even are anyway? nazi? libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502771580 137485097,137546302,2017-08-15 04:34:31,">>137546198 Labels are stupid, as you centerists would say ;^)",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502771671 137485097,137546431,2017-08-15 04:35:59,">>137546302 yeah, sure thing buddy see ya bonus meme",,Anonymous,quote-the-nazis-entered-this-war-under-the-rather-childish-delusion-that-they-were-going-to-sir-arthur-harris-126-36-09.jpg,xbPsEFRZ+7tgLDcmwR9BOA==,,,1502771759 137485097,137547767,2017-08-15 04:51:58,">>137487032 >everyone I don't like gets a bullet this is why you fascists, commies and muslims are fucking filth",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502772718 137485097,137548157,2017-08-15 04:57:08,>>137535869,,Anonymous,150275575224107.jpg,ct6aZHksNIl3vBoDtHYoPw==,,,1502773028 137485097,137548232,2017-08-15 04:58:14,">>137532923 fear mongering and saying we're fighting to the death in order to lure people off center. a cheap trick. is that all you fags have to offer?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502773094 137485097,137548393,2017-08-15 05:00:20,">>137548157 >le ""centrist means doing nothing"" meme",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502773220 137485097,137548613,2017-08-15 05:03:06,">>137487895 >that quality where did you get such a hi-res version?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502773386 137485097,137548646,2017-08-15 05:03:27,Thank you for making this. For the few people on here with a brain.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1502773407 137485097,137549013,2017-08-15 05:08:18,"Which moral ideals do centerists hold and in which order? There seems to be some confusion over whose freedom is most important",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502773698 137485097,137549315,2017-08-15 05:12:32,">>137548393 Proof is in the pudding,Le super intellectual Centrists have refused to address the concerns of both sides and have given rise to increasingly militaristic fanatics. So now the west is almost in a state of civil war, But it's not the Centrists fault. NO no no, its never the fault of the ""joe blow centrist"" that doesn't want to have difficult conversations or listen to the grievances of -->BOTH<-- sides #Both sides are stupid & I'm so smart Mcfuckin kill yourself",,Anonymous,6904f351386438bfde44e0331ee5a8dd2c053c2ab31a4bc4bbea9fef8d653a59.jpg,w8FCDKMHL/YP3gIsrytmYA==,,,1502773952 137485097,137551340,2017-08-15 05:40:57,">>137549315 centrism isn't a single dot on the spectrum that has 0 traits of either side you fucking tard. and actually it's both extreme sides dehumanizing the other side that's caused this rage. they say everybody else is commie/fascist and then disregard everything they have to say while simultaneously threatening with violence. this causes opposite sides to bunker down and lash out.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502775657 137485097,137551865,2017-08-15 05:48:37,">>137551340 If centerists are the middle ground then it is their duty to act as mediators, not sit and wait for each side to come to them.",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502776117 137485097,137551905,2017-08-15 05:49:06,>mfw this thread,,Anonymous,image.jpg,VMivgtE31smAfLBBpEISqQ==,US,,1502776146 137485097,137552018,2017-08-15 05:50:34,">>137485097 Radical Moderate here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502776234 137485097,137552138,2017-08-15 05:52:16,">>137485097 Fucking retarded. If you are radical centrist you should be able to evenrually figure out what real opinions are worth standing for. Otherwise your just a faggot that went into Radical Centrism TM and got stuck in your ways like a massive faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502776336 137485097,137552170,2017-08-15 05:52:45,">>137548232 >saying we're fighting to the death no one said that waffel nigger >half of your allies are fighting about which interpretation of Marx should be followed > the other half is fighting with the right in the mud, becoming more fascist every day. But your interpretations grants a deep look into your mind",,Anonymous,1502776683312.png,+MWsuHrX7tKL1Arn9bPtEA==,,,1502776365 137485097,137552232,2017-08-15 05:53:39,">>137485097 radical centrism",,Anonymous,IMG_0566.jpg,fIuyvORTIRac2hTljrubtQ==,AU,,1502776419 137485097,137552547,2017-08-15 05:58:01,">>137552232 >star wars memes This guy gets it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502776681 137485097,137552651,2017-08-15 05:59:20,">>137552547 >Star >Wars",,Anonymous,1502581140409.jpg,C6o9h0lOyvcswsOiGc9z/A==,,,1502776760 137485097,137552817,2017-08-15 06:01:54,">>137551340 The silent majority refuses to care or acknowledge the on going social issue that both sides take grievance with. Centrists & silent majority have irresponsibility given up the ""social responsibility"" of moderating society in favor of letting impartial government and institutions run society. The problems we are facing RIGHT NOW are directly the cause of ""Joe blow"" not caring about civil liberties or listening to BOTH Left/right issues.""Joe blow"" has literally pushed the auto-pilot(government) on society. Civil war is very likely to happen because ""Joe blow"" doesn't want to have difficult conversations.""Joe blow"" is the doctor that tells you that ever growing lump on your neck isn't something to be worried about,also you are a nob-jockey",,Anonymous,,,,,1502776914 137485097,137553238,2017-08-15 06:06:04,">>137551905 Centrist meme balls absolutely required. When there's difficult conversation {thumbs down}",,Anonymous,d594984de3d7ba8782e44a18cceec77e151f6769d9b0951ebe6aa73464910c01.jpg,oz8Ry/x795w2aRtBIlBVNw==,,,1502777164 137485097,137553414,2017-08-15 06:08:32,">>137552817 again, centrism isn't a singular dot that has no traits of either side. and as they overlap they do take care of left/right issues. it doesn't go all the way but what ideology completely fulfills any side?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502777312 137485097,137553476,2017-08-15 06:09:32,">>137552547 >star wars >national bolshevik holy kek my sides, dude idk what drugs you're into but gimme some pl0x",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1502777372 137485097,137553638,2017-08-15 06:12:03,">>137553414 hahahahahahahahahaha you really believe this, don't you. Keep preaching to an empty court",,Anonymous,,,,,1502777523 137485097,137553737,2017-08-15 06:13:26,">>137553414 As >>137551865 said >>Centrists are the middle ground, it is their duty to act as mediators, not sit and wait for each side to come to them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502777606 137485097,137553800,2017-08-15 06:14:24,">>137553638 and you keep preaching to your circlejerk",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502777664 137485097,137553824,2017-08-15 06:14:43,">>137553737 So you have no beliefs? Faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1502777683 137485097,137553825,2017-08-15 06:14:44,"FEAR NOT, MY CENTRIST BROTHERS THE AGE OF THE MIDDLE GROUND IS AT HAND",,Anonymous,16403216_1624254450925099_2821614781090145876_o.jpg,XBOpIOpm4QmnJUU0HWKdGQ==,GR,,1502777684 137485097,137553996,2017-08-15 06:17:14,">>137553825 >AGE OF THE MIDDLE GROUND IS AT HAND >>Full blown civil war about to abrupt >>Who ever wins, Centrists loss",,Anonymous,53b6d513a36412b53ebc5d6511459759131fc3b799da7cb8e24064f82358b1b1.jpg,I0k9DE9Ow9n4UVuGVptDgQ==,,,1502777834 137485097,137554078,2017-08-15 06:18:30,">>137553800 Rather a circle jerk which is composed of a diverse group of nationalities and right wing ideologies, as also commies and lefties here to fight the ebin nazis. You, you chase away people if they are not enough in YOUR INTERPRETATION of centre. So keep preaching, the centrists are the extremists greatest allies",,Anonymous,,,,,1502777910 137485097,137554102,2017-08-15 06:18:44,">>137552651 >>137553476 Don't worry I am Extremist Centrist. My opinion is 0, 0 of x, y and 1/1 of z axis.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502777924 137485097,137554105,2017-08-15 06:18:49,">>137485097 >Barack Obama >Advances the marxist agenda more than any president in history >Centrist Leaf",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502777929 137485097,137554131,2017-08-15 06:19:07,">>137553996 Step by step We will take the left We will take the right No extremes can survive the power of DIALETICS",,Anonymous,radical_centrist.png,3yQMd3JlLkQ+j7hGWRBnaw==,GR,,1502777947 137485097,137554245,2017-08-15 06:20:42,">>137490135 >centrist >neoliberal pick one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502778042 137485097,137554361,2017-08-15 06:22:29,">>137553824 Lawyers can believe all they like but their job is to represent sides in a reasonable fashion negotiators can equally believe what they like but their job is to get people to cooperate why are centerists not doing their duty to their country?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502778149 137485097,137554404,2017-08-15 06:23:13,This board might as well be called lefty pol or communism general,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502778193 137485097,137554510,2017-08-15 06:24:36,all these extremist shitting their pants because once again there people being guided by ratio and not eazy peazy fearmongering and threats is incredible. more tears please.,,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502778276 137485097,137554666,2017-08-15 06:27:00,">right wing SJWs getting THIS triggered that common sense has a general H O R S E S H O E T H E O R Y honestly fuck extremests",,Anonymous,1500448176867.png,Hc38QkZSBs4Jq8au6u0WjQ==,US,,1502778420 137485097,137554714,2017-08-15 06:27:42,">>137554361 >why are centerists not doing their duty to their country? fear mongering by the extremists >>137554510 There isn't any space for a country in the centre",,Anonymous,,,,,1502778462 137485097,137554961,2017-08-15 06:31:30,">>137554714 >there isn't a space for country in the centre >if it's not fascist it's anarchy and communism!!1!!1!! simple boy",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502778690 137485097,137554967,2017-08-15 06:31:35,">>137485097 >links wiki ""Part of a series on Liberalism"" >nice try",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502778695 137485097,137555071,2017-08-15 06:33:12,">>137498645 kys you atistic larper retard",,Anonymous,,,,,1502778792 137485097,137555193,2017-08-15 06:34:58,">>137554714 >missing the point so hard you hit it with your ass there isn't supposed to be one negotiators are supposed to work in harsh realities by /actively/ talking to both sides and then taking their extreme rhetoric and turning it into something the other side could empathise with Lawyers are supposed to be the middle ground between two opposing parties that must somehow come to an agreement if the real world already had space for centerism there'd be no need for it why are you evading your job? are you incapable?",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502778898 137485097,137555240,2017-08-15 06:35:40,"Read through this post and has someone who has grown up as a lefty in a fully subverted country, I can tell you this is not centrist this board basically is just bashing the right wing without bashing the left, this is not centrist this is subversion. t. an actual centrist inb4 this is just commen sense ok then prove it, tell me whats bad about the subversive cultural marxism and how it is done explain to me why right wing economics is good for the middle class but bad for the lower why left wing economics is good for the lower class but bad for the middle class all i see on this board is muh right wing economics everyone looses, look at all these left wing subverters their so centrist, anyone who doesn't agree is triggered and can't see commen sense, these rhetorical arguments are a dead give away",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502778940 137485097,137555731,2017-08-15 06:42:13,">>137555240 >this board is basically just bashing the right wing without bashing the left nigger are you fucking serious? that delusional victim complex",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502779333 137485097,137555935,2017-08-15 06:45:10,">>137555731 Just balancing out the left subversion thats gone on in here, trust me iy doesn't matter how much you give they will use any tactic to drag it over",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502779510 137485097,137556015,2017-08-15 06:46:17,">>137555731 But nice retort strong points, really proven its not what I say it is",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502779577 137485097,137556189,2017-08-15 06:48:35,">>137485097 >centrist >people of blabla bla are not welcome seriously, couldn't see more retarded thing for years in /pol/",,Anonymous,catdisgust.gif,RUxn5JqXlI+v7dMHQdwpXA==,TR,,1502779715 137485097,137556201,2017-08-15 06:48:47,">>137555240 >read through this post lies >what's bad about using an /appeal of emotions/ (explain why favoring the pursuit of personal achievement through self-improvement helps those motivated to rise above menial labor >less stupid >explain why benefiting those least capable helps those least capable >back to moron levels At least your eye-sight is reasonable",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502779727 137485097,137556250,2017-08-15 06:49:28,">>137556189 Thank you based China person",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502779768 137485097,137556407,2017-08-15 06:51:27,">>137556201 Well done for not actually addressing any of my points, your defencive responses are only proving this is what I say it is",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502779887 137485097,137556479,2017-08-15 06:52:38,">>137556407 good job on not responding beyond ""hurr you're wrong"" back to the bilges with you, rat",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502779958 137485097,137556484,2017-08-15 06:52:45,"Read through this post and has someone who has grown up as a lefty in a fully subverted country, I can tell you this is not centrist this board basically is just bashing the right wing without bashing the left, this is not centrist this is subversion. t. an actual centrist inb4 this is just commen sense ok then prove it, tell me whats bad about the subversive cultural marxism and how it is done explain to me why right wing economics is good for the middle class but bad for the lower why left wing economics is good for the lower class but bad for the middle class all i see on this board is muh right wing economics everyone looses, look at all these left wing subverters their so centrist, anyone who doesn't agree is triggered and can't see commen sense, these rhetorical arguments are a dead give away",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502779965 137485097,137556536,2017-08-15 06:53:16,">>137485097 I respect ya for trying to start discussion on centrism but it's the one true common enemy in the entirely of politics. Everyone just loves extremes as if it ideologies were sports teams and anime shippings.",,Anonymous,,,MY,,1502779996 137485097,137556543,2017-08-15 06:53:20,Centrists are fucking faggots.,,Anonymous,iowa2_by_tri_bby-d9sy5c5.jpg,+JET9Vt/G0Qx9UaY/3nhsQ==,,,1502780000 137485097,137556601,2017-08-15 06:54:16,">>137485097 Now we're talking",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502780056 137485097,137556819,2017-08-15 06:57:18,">>137556536 Kill yourself whovian. Nazi x Soviet bote 4 lyfe.",,Anonymous,1502077305830.gif,vmN85yMuC/eG4g9qqE9hrQ==,,,1502780238 137485097,137556870,2017-08-15 06:57:51,"ECONOMIC POLICY: >End the Federal Reserve system immediately. >Raise the minimum wage for full-time work and tie it to inflation. >Call for universal healthcare and end the tyranny of private insurance companies. >Provide a generous welfare system for the poor, covering basic necessities. >Implement a simple, flat income tax for all wealth brackets. >Cut government departments and organizations massively if they do not directly benefit Americans. >Implement protectionist trade policies that are pro-American. No more NAFTA/TPP-style regulations. DOMESTIC POLICY: >End affirmative action. >Private businesses can discriminate for any reason they want (don't have to bake the cake). >Strongly protect gun rights and the 2nd Amendment. >Decriminalize drug usage and end the War on Drugs. >Stop NSA Spying/mass surveilance policies like the Patriot Act and NDAA. >Pardon and honor Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and other whistleblowers. >Keep net neutrality and protect the freedom of the Internet. SOCIAL POLICY: >Keep abortion legal, but make contraceptives like birth control more accessible to lower the number of abortions. >Let LGBT people marry, or at least get the government out of it. Churches can be allowed to deny a gay couple from marriage if they wish. >Remove the death penalty. Too many innocent executed. >Repeal hate speech laws and call for a revitalization of free speech. >Businesses shouldn't be required to ""diversify"" employees or make quotas. >3rd wave feminism/SJW-ism is toxic to society. FOREIGN POLICY: >Bring troops home from across the world. >Massively lower the need for military spending. >End all aggressive wars and defend our borders. >Cut all foreign aid, including to Israel. In general, I'm a liberal-tarian who is completely disillusioned with identity politics on the left (and right).",,Anonymous,009.png,8jcjyVpyU9W9/1JQIWhU3A==,,,1502780271 137485097,137556890,2017-08-15 06:58:09,"Hi ""Literally"" /u/pm_me_free_food here Fuck off, you won't subvert anyone Thanks, Bye",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1502780289 137485097,137557128,2017-08-15 07:01:12,">>137554961 Nope, current political discourse Social democrat ---- Neo-Liberal ---- Right wing Populism. Which one are you? >>137555193 >there isn't supposed to be one What, a country, bazinga I guess. >negotiators are supposed to work in harsh realities by /actively/ talking to both sides and then taking their extreme rhetoric and turning it into something the other side could empathise with >Lawyers are supposed to be the middle ground between two opposing parties that must somehow come to an agreement They will need to argue for some side, I can't think of any game where there isn't a loser or a winner. Sure one can find outcomes which may be better for both sides regarding the alternatives but their can't be a perfect centre in human conflicts. Imo, rather take it to the extreme and apply pure social Darwinism, lets have zero sum games, it is more honest regarding human nature >why are you evading your job? are you incapable? Somehow I need to get my 5 weeks holiday a year together",,Anonymous,,,,,1502780472 137485097,137557254,2017-08-15 07:02:57,">>137556479 Did not call you wrong, pointed out your lack of addressing my points, point out how you are being defencive that someone is pointing out your clear left wing bias and stance",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502780577 137485097,137557340,2017-08-15 07:04:21,">>137556870 I came a little reading all that",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1502780661 137485097,137557358,2017-08-15 07:04:41,">>137557128 Zero sum games are not an efficient way of progressing the human race arguing for one particular side involves there being an equal ""arguer"" on the other, which is why members in the center are supposed to represent both individually, not both as one weird amalgamation your holiday starts when the crisis is over >>137557254 >literally went across every point you asked to be proven >didn't address points ?? Your opinion on the quality of the thread and its posts is obviously irrelevant, it's shit because it's on 4chan",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502780681 137485097,137557552,2017-08-15 07:07:01,">>137557358 You really didn't you literally just backed up your communistic point of view",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502780821 137485097,137557597,2017-08-15 07:07:30,">>137556890 What this guy said",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502780850 137485097,137557690,2017-08-15 07:08:28,">>137557340 A man can dream.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502780908 137485097,137557743,2017-08-15 07:09:08,">>137557552 What communist view? Subversive marxism is bad because (see post) right economics are good because (see post) left economics are useful because (see post) maybe your reading comprehension is just shit",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502780948 137485097,137557911,2017-08-15 07:11:14,">>137556870 I like this, I have one thought, some sort of subsidy for small businesses to help grow but still be able to pay the minimum wage may be worth adding, often minimum wage policy gives an advantage to large corporations and makes it harder for upstarts and current small business to compete",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502781074 137485097,137557983,2017-08-15 07:12:09,">radical centrist general I'd love it if more people were here but it's just gonna be full of nazi and commie trolls. I'll stick to winding people up in other threads,",,Anonymous,fqhwbsy6gqez.jpg,JApTJYcLhIKNPUKRRurZDw==,GB,,1502781129 137485097,137558120,2017-08-15 07:13:58,">>137556870 >Economic Lots of spending, no government income Cutting indirect benefits in developed nation Being protectionist when trying to build up trading partners because you're the largest economy >Domestic bretty gud /11 >Social more free speech while people are arguing over who can shout the loudest Rebrand free speech might be better put >Foreign going into hibernation mode isn't too bad an idea >Overall Don't let this guy near the economy, otherwise it's fine",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502781238 137485097,137558122,2017-08-15 07:14:00,">>137556870 Can I also call for a revision of abortion laws to a certain limit, say 49days when the fetus gains its gender, beyond that is border line murder",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502781240 137485097,137558182,2017-08-15 07:14:49,">>137557911 Agreed, and small companies not having to provide health insurance benefits to their employees would also help.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502781289 137485097,137558404,2017-08-15 07:17:39,">>137558120 You medkits have the best foreign policy in the world. Very peaceful country. Is it true that gun ownership is mandatory over there?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502781459 137485097,137558421,2017-08-15 07:17:51,">>137557358 Evolutionary game theory is crap; most of the time it implies that one party will forget former outcomes and settle for less than they actually could have, if they just stood their ground in an earlier game, forcing the other side to submit. What the left very effectively did over the course oft the last half century, because the right basically said fuck it after 1945 andthe left made a good give me or we scream tactic >equal ""arguer"" jews, not pulling the sides to the centre but to the (((centre))) bringing equal bad outcomes to the parties involved. Yes there might be a better arguer on one side, still the parties will not even come near their expected outcomes, destabilizing both sides and making their followers more open for extremism and desintegration >Your Holiday starts after the crisis When doses the crisis ends, I have to be back at work on Friday",,Anonymous,,,,,1502781471 137485097,137558624,2017-08-15 07:20:12,"this>>137556201 does not address these>>137557743 points and your self righteous rhetoric shows what you are, I'm out I've done what I came here for, good day",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1502781612 137485097,137558807,2017-08-15 07:22:37,">>137486915 >imblying businesses dont have to follow the same rules everyone else does",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502781757 137485097,137558856,2017-08-15 07:23:13,">>137556870 All of this is terrible",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502781793 137485097,137558968,2017-08-15 07:24:35,">>137558856 Which ones in particular?",,Anonymous,,,,,1502781875 137485097,137559085,2017-08-15 07:25:47,">>137558404 We treat everyone equally, if they're worth our time they are respected, if not they can become so on their own time self defense is an integral part of society >>137558421 when both parties think this way tensions escalate until there is conflict if both parties are equal this conflict incites creative competition if they actually go through with it to the end all that progress is setback. The trick is to keep playing, not end the game You're confusing two sides coming together with two sides merging into one opinion this is the jew tactic The crisis never ends because humans thrive in adversity >>137558624 guess reading really isn't your strong suit",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502781947 137485097,137559283,2017-08-15 07:27:46,">>137558968 Centrism does not and cannot have some dictated platform, it doesn't work that way",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502782066 137485097,137559385,2017-08-15 07:29:10,">>137559283 It's wrong! >why? because it is! it can't be like that and I said so! lol",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1502782150 137485097,137559454,2017-08-15 07:29:47,">>137559085 >if both parties are equal this conflict incites creative competition Equality meme, Top Bazinga. There will always be a side that has more resources and will use them to generate better outcomes >if they actually go through with it to the end all that progress is setback depends on how one side can control information and the spreading of information after the set back. It could effectively be better for a party with lesser resources to have the system collapse especially if they have good archivers like christian priests after the fall of rome >The crisis never ends because humans thrive in adversity My boss will not like that",,Anonymous,,,,,1502782187 137485097,137559491,2017-08-15 07:30:14,"wow this is some next level shilling right here. radical centrism? that's like saying ""I don't know what the fuck I believe but I'm radical about not figuring it out!"" fuck off brockboys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1502782214 137597171,137597171,2017-08-15 13:53:15,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists, Nazis, SJWs, etc LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org http://www.pewresearch.org/ https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/aer http://www.investopedia.com/ http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2010/Sumnerneoliberalism.html NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/Barack_Obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes",/rcg/ -- Radical Centrism General,Anonymous,1502757791296.jpg,2nkppPn0Sp3TjAvseC5wXw==,US,,1502805195 137625220,137625220,2017-08-15 17:30:12,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists, Nazis, SJWs, alt-right, alt-left etc LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org http://www.pewresearch.org/ https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/aer http://www.investopedia.com/ http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2010/Sumnerneoliberalism.html NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/Barack_Obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes",/rcg/ -- Radical Centrism General: Fuck the Alternative Edition,Anonymous,1502757791296.jpg,2nkppPn0Sp3TjAvseC5wXw==,US,,1502818212 137625220,137626341,2017-08-15 17:38:05,">>137625220 >Faggot general Fixed.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1502818685 137625220,137626683,2017-08-15 17:40:17,">>137625220 >fence sitter general no one cares about your le enlightened snowflake-isms Individualized atomized faggots like yourself will never be able to organize and have meaningful change. Just cherrypick and critique in the corner without any strong belief.",,Anonymous,,,,,1502818817 137625220,137627370,2017-08-15 17:45:07,">radical centrism what the actual fuck",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1502819107 138085084,138085084,2017-08-18 15:22:48,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists, Nazis, SJWs, etc LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org http://www.pewresearch.org/ https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/aer http://www.investopedia.com/ http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2010/Sumnerneoliberalism.html NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Chrétien https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes",/rcg/ -- Radical centrism general,Anonymous,1502755754107.jpg,u27Xx17suIWYRwdtcZSO4A==,CA,,1503069768 138175694,138175694,2017-08-19 05:12:40,"Welcome to /rcg/! This is a general for the discussion of all things relating to radical centrism Welcome: Radical centrists and people open to radical centrist thought Not welcome: Right-wingers, left-wingers, communists, fascists, Nazis, SJWs, etc LINKS: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_centrism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrism www.centristproject.org www.amazon.co.uk/Centrist-Manifesto-Charles-Wheelan-x/dp/0393346870 www.uscentrist.org www.mensa.org http://www.pewresearch.org/ https://www.aeaweb.org/journals/aer http://www.investopedia.com/ http://www.econlib.org/library/Columns/y2010/Sumnerneoliberalism.html NOTABLE RADICAL CENTRISTS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Chrétien https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_J_Trump https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Jacobs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_D._Eisenhower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Keynes",/rcg/ -- Radical Centrism general,Anonymous,1502755754107.jpg,u27Xx17suIWYRwdtcZSO4A==,CA,,1503119560 138175694,138175727,2017-08-19 05:13:06,">>138175694 I love Donald J Trump and everything he's done for the country (He's not even done yet) I love Alex Jones for everything he's exposed for the country (He's not even done yet) I love Jake Paul for everything he and the JakePaulers have done for California and the kids around the world uplifting them. (He's far from finished) I love PewDiePie for everything he's done to uplift manchildren around the world. (He's got a big future) I love Bill O'reilly for everything he's done to John Stewart. But most importantly I love Weird Al Yankovich for his active role in preventing nuclear holocaust. (More to come) You can take your co-opted political violence and race-baiting and shove it up your ass. I play video games mother fucker. Video Games. Tch,,, nothin personnel... kid... heh...heh...heh... politics? you mean that debate over who should benefit in society? Uhh how about NOT SOCIALISTS. National Socialism? For a continent that's ALWAYS BEEN multiethnic and multicultural? Guess again alt-left and alt-right and radical spacebars. The people who benefit in this society are those who earned their place with honest hard work and dedication to non-violence. Now if we're finished here I've got a marathon to complete... That's right, I'm playing every modern warfare game campaign in a row on the hardest difficulty. Yeah I die a lot, but I still will complete this task. I am a legend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-lnPk5SFrk",,Anonymous,wIGnl73l[1].jpg,DHE7/Xuy74G7a/uvlIqbXQ==,US,,1503119586 138175694,138175977,2017-08-19 05:16:36,">>138175694 >Obama and Trump both notable centrists nice bait/10",,Anonymous,1445023599669.jpg,abytteChnaQZy+I43eN/UQ==,CA,,1503119796 138288980,138288980,2017-08-19 23:11:00,"Hi all good evening Let's discuss Radical Centrism Thread Theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JqvXZF-tZM >let's keep it green and inbetween",/rcg/ Radical Centrism General,Anonymous,centrism.png,QpkNnirQjppxMgtCMlW/1g==,,,1503184260 138288980,138289278,2017-08-19 23:13:42,nigger,,Anonymous,,,,,1503184422 144665711,144665711,2017-10-09 14:34:34,"The left failed us, it bankrupted thousands of nations and brought degeneracy into every house The right failed us, they are cucks who fail to do anything to fix our problems, and always sell out to businessmen We need a new ideology pol, a radical centrism that gasses both the left and right. ITT we build our new ideology. Let me start >Anti-communism >Anti-fascism What can we do?",Radical centrism general - /rcg/,Anonymous,S5Bfws[1].png,qCfMU0mPqyaeOvEWQ0LsXw==,,,1507559674 144665711,144665859,2017-10-09 14:35:48,Ok whats your stance on healthcare?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507559748 144665711,144665957,2017-10-09 14:36:38,">>144665859 i have no strong feelings one way or the other",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507559798 144665711,144666111,2017-10-09 14:37:50,>>144665711,,Anonymous,1505671892982.jpg,Ig/DGfzYMmfas+jTKMDSmg==,,,1507559870 144665711,144666228,2017-10-09 14:38:59,">>144665711 whats your stance on jews and muslims?",,Anonymous,5c1965e8bc59d5e41d5adafe9265dd13.jpg,XoE6pQlsmgR/IgN7oidMSg==,,,1507559939 144665711,144666247,2017-10-09 14:39:12,">>144665711 >kill everyone with an opinion >try to form a centrist government >country becomes trash >people start begging the government to step in and save the economy >official government statement: just like, be reasonable, starvation is just as good as prosoperity, omg why people have to care so much",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507559952 144665711,144666273,2017-10-09 14:39:25,">>144665859 im building this with you guys, waht's the best radical centrist position on healthcare?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507559965 144665711,144666342,2017-10-09 14:40:00,"I'm not a radical. No, I consider myself more of a based centrist",,Anonymous,1493696410382.jpg,qBRkq/vn6voBS/aDw9RA9w==,CA,,1507560000 144665711,144666453,2017-10-09 14:40:56,>>144666111,,Anonymous,dubs_the_musical.jpg,dtqvl53LBp9vveugMNH0hQ==,US,,1507560056 144665711,144666539,2017-10-09 14:41:37,">>144666111 Checked, and had a sensible chuckle",,Anonymous,1507390936221.png,yKSYCJ3EH8uJI/F7U7kWRw==,US,,1507560097 144665711,144666565,2017-10-09 14:41:46,">>144665711 Don't need a new ideology, just need patriots in office.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507560106 144665711,144666575,2017-10-09 14:41:50,">>144665711 lets just take the best out of the left and right ? 3 2 1 GO Left: renewable energy Right: no gun control whos next ?",,Anonymous,1500463423639.jpg,jqM0HJ8YcTQjVwHEFuOaUg==,RS,,1507560110 144665711,144666600,2017-10-09 14:41:59,">>144665711 Horseshoe theory is for fags. Being in the middle of two shitty cultures, welfare homos and military fags, doesn't solve anything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560119 144665711,144666771,2017-10-09 14:43:22,"Force Harvard professors off their moral relativism and into something practical. Use said moral to denounce exploitative corporations and government officials, and rile up the general populace with said moral judgements. The purity spiral will be overenthousiastic but righteous. Whatever degenerate sells pornography and bad loans deserves to be pogrommed, and that's what's going to happen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560202 144665711,144666842,2017-10-09 14:43:59,"Jewish digits >>144666666",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507560239 144665711,144667037,2017-10-09 14:45:47,">>144665711 >What can we do? Embrace the Blackpill and kill yourself, that's a good start for a centrist I'd say.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1507560347 144665711,144667060,2017-10-09 14:46:02,">""Le rational centrist"" Go to Reddit faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560362 144665711,144667481,2017-10-09 14:49:40,">radical left: criminals get welfare and whyte wymmin >radical right: (((criminals))) get gassed what does the radical centrist do?",,Anonymous,1503173045824.jpg,WGeCrS4qDngNSbSJcuUq0Q==,FI,,1507560580 144665711,144667586,2017-10-09 14:50:37,">>144666575 bump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507560637 144665711,144667626,2017-10-09 14:51:04,">>144666575 Im ok with that >>144666600 there are two centers anon",,Anonymous,OG81eo[1].png,UpO7OWZlRVePFvKAXHd+dg==,,,1507560664 144665711,144667644,2017-10-09 14:51:18,">>144665711 I suspect this will fail because you can't really build and ideology out of ""I don't really know what I wan't and/or I don't have the stomache to do anything that might actually be effective in doing something about established problems"".",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507560678 144665711,144667666,2017-10-09 14:51:28,">>144667481 free gas",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507560688 144665711,144667799,2017-10-09 14:52:38,">>144667481 free gas",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507560758 144665711,144667845,2017-10-09 14:53:05,">>144667481 Bitch about le horseshoe.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507560785 144665711,144667928,2017-10-09 14:53:49,">>144667644 thats virgin centrism, we're propposing chad radical centrism",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560829 144665711,144667942,2017-10-09 14:53:57,">>144667666 Sold.",,Anonymous,1256924214757.gif,mJVXyskSreYe/vMjnBEWnQ==,US,,1507560837 144665711,144667987,2017-10-09 14:54:26,">>144667942 i deleted because i got the wrong digits",,Anonymous,1503498934579.jpg,EAP7EoD0ORQKZOWCka0oFQ==,GB,,1507560866 144665711,144668132,2017-10-09 14:56:01,">>144667928 So this then? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Position Careful, fascist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507560961 144665711,144668139,2017-10-09 14:56:04,">>144665711 Liberty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507560964 144665711,144668166,2017-10-09 14:56:19,">>144665711 To ensure the commies don't ruin our countries like the commies ruined Russia, and the eastern block. Or how Nazis ruined Europe, and world politics, we must kill them when they get violent at all. If the Russian people offed the Bolsheviks they'd be fine. If the German government killed the communists Hitler wouldn't have spied, or co-opted them. Really we must kill those who kill for political beliefs while not getting involved with government. It's the only way to not become radical.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507560979 144665711,144668184,2017-10-09 14:56:33,">>144667987 i got you famalam",,Anonymous,checked.png,YfbDfTlLNHz91h/gz1KUMw==,US,,1507560993 144665711,144668220,2017-10-09 14:56:45,">>144666247 Centrism is not having an opinion Stop this meme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507561005 144665711,144668277,2017-10-09 14:57:22,">>144668220 *isn't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507561042 144665711,144668411,2017-10-09 14:58:34,">>144668166 exactly maybe the military can be ourguys? Or how do we call a paramilitary radical centrist militia?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561114 144665711,144668677,2017-10-09 15:01:03,">>144665711 If 100% of your labor is taken away you're a slave If 50% of your labor is taken away you're half a slave. A radical centrist is a moron with no principles. Centrism is what got us into all situations after the revolution in '89. Just do what works for votes. GET FUCKED and stepped on. You're no snake.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1507561263 144665711,144668696,2017-10-09 15:01:11,"Just live ur life. Errr I am gonna kill all natzzies and gummies ! Fuckink Faschist is just make yo a stupid. Make your aims true and make your money pal",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561271 144665711,144668944,2017-10-09 15:03:36,Patriotism should be an element of this new political system.,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1507561416 144665711,144669021,2017-10-09 15:04:27,">>144668944 definitely",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561467 144665711,144669082,2017-10-09 15:04:58,">>144668677 already answered",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561498 144665711,144669526,2017-10-09 15:09:23,">>144668411 if you have the government involved at all it'd become totalitarian. If you censor any of it, it could become popular and niche. ""maybe the military can be ourguys?"" Calm down Bolshevik. I can't wait till the jew's try to be radical again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561763 144665711,144669527,2017-10-09 15:09:23,The economical system should be libertarian. The government holds the least power possible only to provide the basic to the poor.,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1507561763 144665711,144669708,2017-10-09 15:11:10,">>144669526 radical centrism is not necessarily anti-totalitarian tho, its radical and centrist if that means purging all communists and fascists, its stil centrist",,Anonymous,,,,,1507561870 144665711,144669998,2017-10-09 15:13:39,"also, wahts your favorite radical centrist leader? syngman rhee? vargas? LKY? Not peron tho he was a cuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1507562019 144665711,144670121,2017-10-09 15:14:33,">>144669526 >We're going to kill anyone who would kill for their politics >Get the military involved? Whoah Nelly, too radical for me!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507562073 144665711,144670261,2017-10-09 15:16:07,">>144665711 Fuck authoritarianism",,Anonymous,Radical Centrism.jpg,eNDEX7/sju5DWtR9a8hPqg==,,,1507562167 144665711,144671498,2017-10-09 15:27:58,">>144670121 You don't understand power politics what would stop the military from just fucking over the government at that point? Your Bolshevik buddy didn't really think that through, because the ""radical centrist"" would have to become totalitarian at that point. If you just have the military killing people and not listening to the government you want to prevent from becoming totalitarian you created a much bigger problem. The military would be the government. The only time I'd see that being needed is if the military is already at that point. You would need something to actually fight that off. Today though we have a bunch of useless waste of life larping in the streets about anything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507562878 144665711,144672049,2017-10-09 15:33:48,">>144669527 You mean capitalist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507563228 144665711,144672195,2017-10-09 15:35:10,">>144671498 How are you planning on getting the organised manpower together that you will *require* in order to do what it is you want to do, without a large organised force of armed men, i.e an army?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507563310 144665711,144673606,2017-10-09 15:48:58,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1507564138 144665711,144673844,2017-10-09 15:51:10,">>144669527 So classical liberalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507564270 144665711,144673847,2017-10-09 15:51:13,">>144672195 I'm not planning anything just shitposting thoughts. I mean it could just be a militia instead of the actual military. That could be dangerous though. I'd prefer something smaller in scale since we don't need something like a 1st world military to handle larpers. In a perfect world it'd just be a common belief to be held that those people must die to preserve society. I mean that's how socialists work today, they hold societal beliefs that they push onto everyone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507564273 144665711,144674019,2017-10-09 15:52:41,">>144665711 Brainlet normie scum. Regressing mongrel filth. You are not politically incorrect, reported and saged.",,pack muel mcbumblebitch,,,US,,1507564361 144665711,144674047,2017-10-09 15:53:00,">>144665711 Radical centrism is the true red pill. Gas fascists / anarchists when?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507564380 144665711,144674252,2017-10-09 15:54:52,">>144665711 >What can we do? Get gassed",,Anonymous,7.62.gif,coR8F3n+UL15+hAX02WFkQ==,DE,,1507564492 144665711,144674565,2017-10-09 15:58:00,">>144673847 LARPing is Live Action Role Play. People who pretend to be something they are not, doing things they would never actually do in real life. If they're out killing for their beliefs then they're not LARPing, by definition. If enough of them are doing it you are seriously considering a purge then you will need more than a rag-tag assortment of farmer Joes with shotguns. >>144674047 What exactly is radical centism and how is it correct?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507564680 144665711,144674645,2017-10-09 15:58:47,">>144665711 Are you guys authoritarian?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1507564727 144665711,144674799,2017-10-09 16:00:13,">>144665711 Why is there a radical centrist (Hitler) in the gas chamber?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507564813 144665711,144675798,2017-10-09 16:09:36,">>144674565 I'm sorry but antifa, and the groups in Charlottesville are larpers. Even the KKK today isn't what it used to be. You can be a larper, and kill people. They're not Bolsheviks yet they just have the potential. I refuse to treat them with the dignity that there movements are even able to do anything besides hurt others, riot, and destroy lives. They're a waste of time, and hold back from actual progress. Look at BLM and the fucking WE WUZZ shit. They killed people screamed for the death of whites, ruined their local economy by destroying and looting business, then gave up a few days later. All it would take is an armed militia to handle shitty commie black bloc tactics. Have them form in a line with anything that can block rocks and march over them like the riot police do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507565376 144665711,144676909,2017-10-09 16:20:16,">>144666342 >live in Cucknada >consider yourself a centrist",,Anonymous,1507447117721.gif,db3peRiGBGzycerztvzxOw==,CA,,1507566016 144665711,144677932,2017-10-09 16:29:48,">>144665711 How is centrism going to fix the catastrophic demographic projections of the near future? Honest question",,Anonymous,1498223339258.png,2mfxfzjyR7NZypbhD5baDg==,DE,,1507566588 144665711,144679387,2017-10-09 16:42:56,">>144673847 every socialist country has militias The PLA for ex is not the army of China, but officially the paramilitary wing of the CCP",,Anonymous,,,,,1507567376 144665711,144680099,2017-10-09 16:49:26,This thread is for high conscientious-openness ppl only,,Anonymous,asfasfasfasf.png,Udg5Fsob0toupio5YlqfTA==,SE,,1507567766 144665711,144680143,2017-10-09 16:49:53,">>144677932 Well, very soon we will all start modifying our DNA and none will be black anymore",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1507567793 144665711,144680546,2017-10-09 16:53:38,">>144665711 >What can we do? Wait. Patience is key to attack. Fight what battles you want; but asking to form a group of any kind is completely out of the question. If you're trying to do so; turn in your 'radical' card immediately. Everyone fights their own way. Pick your target, verify, and fire. Metaphor being much more effective than violence, of course. The more we can do separately; the less chance of being found. ""In short, Duke; a shitstorm..."" -Penn Gillette, Hackers",,Anonymous,AVATARFlammarionEngraving.jpg,2TpuNa9uuMCSlZjodSOF3A==,US,,1507568018 144665711,144680770,2017-10-09 16:55:46,">>144665711 the middle is on the right you faggot. kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507568146 144665711,144680800,2017-10-09 16:56:04,">>144665711 >>>/reddit/",,Anonymous,1500218106313.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,,,1507568164 144665711,144681027,2017-10-09 16:58:22,">Radical centrism Nice oxy moron",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507568302 144665711,144681040,2017-10-09 16:58:25,">>144665711 Fascism is radical centrism. It's third position politics taken to its full extreme.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507568305 144665711,144681249,2017-10-09 17:00:19,">>144680546 Not forming a group is sheer insanity, it's either you and your sane political faction or some idiot like Richard Spencer. The political clout of the left can only be met with growing organisation that is seen as more responsible and authoritative.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507568419 144665711,144681352,2017-10-09 17:01:11,">>144681027 thats the point",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507568471 144665711,144681409,2017-10-09 17:01:41,">>144665711 >Anti-communism >Anti-fascism ITS THE FUCKING SAME THING. FASCISM HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON THE LEFT, LOOK AT THE FUCKING PAST",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1507568501 144665711,144681436,2017-10-09 17:01:57,"Centrist think tank Third Way launched a $20 million campaign in January to help Democratic voters reconnect with the center. They also consider themselves ""Radical Center."" Pic related. Same corrupt party with new buzzwords. http://archive.is/oWuHD >http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/democ",,Anonymous,IMG_4456.jpg,/U3hOdzDhFwQPGz9LYv+5A==,US,,1507568517 144665711,144681437,2017-10-09 17:01:58,">>144666273 limited universal healthcare everything treatable using only the WHO essential medicines list (the lists are used for making hospitals in poor places) - publicly funded medicines on the extended list + things on the essential surgeries list - heavily subsidized everything else - you are on your own",,Anonymous,,,,,1507568518 144665711,144682102,2017-10-09 17:07:41,">>144681027 angsty redditors haven't figured out that radical centrism is literally Nazism.",,Anonymous,1473012155653.jpg,rWJcFegHnhrpfqZ7ojzZvw==,,,1507568861 164752818,164752818,2018-03-20 21:29:59,The main focus of this /rcg/ thread is to add content for future /rcg/ threads.,/rcg/ - Radical Centrism General,Anonymous,234.jpg,vzW89d9Zhd0E6fVyFwYUiA==,US,,1521581399