thread_id,id,timestamp,body,subject,author,image_file,image_md5,country_code,country_name,unix_timestamp 133981008,133981008,2017-07-17 14:46:56,"National Capitalism: >Free Market >Government exists to secure borders and ensure voluntary contracts are upheld. >Commies, shitskins, jews, and muslims get helicoptered. >Main religion will be Christianity. >Immigration is only allowed from Aryans and intelligent whites. >Nationalism is always put above globalism. >Citizens have freedom to bear arms. >Government power is restrained by constitution (eg: government is divided into sub-governments by county, government does not regulate because if enough people want a company to stop doing something they can boycott it and it either changes or just dies, government must protect rights that exist and not limit them) >All commie countries get recreationally nuked and replaced with Christian Aryan Gigamalls. Cool new flag ideas are encouraged.",National Capitalism General /ncg/,Anonymous,1499895822173.png,ZOMTKF6v8BhzwZreE3LW+g==,,,1500302816 133981008,133981246,2017-07-17 14:49:57,">>133981008 Some more flags",,Anonymous,1499907926879.jpg,5LV+esoJUeHBzjll4KT6Rw==,,,1500302997 133981008,133981293,2017-07-17 14:50:31,>>133981246,,Anonymous,1498965553024.jpg,f0Xipq2IaVZB0GrzYWaGyg==,,,1500303031 133981008,133981568,2017-07-17 14:53:33,">>133981008 Heil Pinochet!",,Anonymous,,,,,1500303213 133981008,133981697,2017-07-17 14:54:56,">>133981008 >Main religion will be Christianity. dropped",,Anonymous,,,,,1500303296 133981008,133981720,2017-07-17 14:55:13,">>133981008 Free Market does not mean Unregulated Market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500303313 133981008,133981840,2017-07-17 14:56:31,This is a fuck lot better than anarcho-capitalism.,,Anonymous,,,,,1500303391 133981008,133981870,2017-07-17 14:56:55,">>133981008 National Capitalism is an oxymoron. Try again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500303415 133981008,133981904,2017-07-17 14:57:16,">>133981008 It's a novel idea, but half the issue in the Modern West is the consumer market rotting our people from the inside out. Why struggle for nonmaterial ideals when you can supplant it with luxury?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500303436 133981008,133982090,2017-07-17 14:59:10,">>133981697 Jew located",,Anonymous,,,,,1500303550 133981008,133982540,2017-07-17 15:03:49,">>133981870 No, you can put nationalism above economy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500303829 133981008,133982771,2017-07-17 15:06:19,"How do you prevent non-tangible or non-monetary issues which are at the end of the day the core of our struggle? We arent collapsing due to lack of wealth, but a lack of moral virtues and steadfastness. How does NatCap prevent huge industries whose entire purpose is the promulgation of degeneracy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500303979 133981008,133982908,2017-07-17 15:07:49,"Furthermore there are very few economic marxists anymore, its all culture. The trotskyites dropped economic marxism decades ago. Outside of South Africa there is no mass commie uprising coming to take our land",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500304069 133981008,133983006,2017-07-17 15:08:53,">>133982540 Well then it isn't capitalism is it? Either the pursuit of capital is the primary/sole drive of individuals within the socio-economic system (capitalism) or it isn't (not capitalism). It's not that hard. What you're saying makes sense if the only economic system that can utilize Market economics is Capitalism, but that id demonstrably false.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500304133 133981008,133983030,2017-07-17 15:09:11,">>133982090 While you practice a religion started by a literal kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500304151 133981008,133983260,2017-07-17 15:11:47,">>133981008 >capitalist >christian pick one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500304307 133981008,133983276,2017-07-17 15:11:58,">>133983006 Agreed. And for the record i think private ownership and individual rights are fundamental. But capitalism as an ideology needs a strong moral counterbalance because people are NOT rational decision makers operating in an open market of economic exchange, we are irrational tribal monkeys who will fuck, fart and take drugs all day if the opportunity is there.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500304318 133981008,133983386,2017-07-17 15:13:00,">national capitalism Are you for real man",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500304380 133981008,133983874,2017-07-17 15:18:07,">>133983030 Because he calls out false Jews and calls them the synagogue of Satan, none of the ""muh joos"" are actual ethnic Hebrews and they as Christ said worship Satan. Lurk moar faggot",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500304687 133981008,133983969,2017-07-17 15:19:07,">>133981008 Wouldn't mind living there. Although, what did you mean by ""main religion""? If that means official, then fuck off. If that means the only one allowed (besides atheism), then OK.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1500304747 133981008,133984347,2017-07-17 15:23:06,">>133983260 I guess Max Weber is a foreign name to you?",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1500304986 133981008,133984459,2017-07-17 15:24:17,">>133981697 >hurr deep xtianity is useless xD tip your autism harder faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500305057 133981008,133984912,2017-07-17 15:28:59,">>133983030 He wasn't a rabbi by modern standards, as back then, rabbi was used to label those whom were wise. In other scriptures throughout the bible, other non-religious figures were referred to as rabbi, although back then rabbi was synonymous with teacher or wise one. Rabbi in the present has a different meaning, in which it pertains specifically to Judaism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500305339 133981008,133985361,2017-07-17 15:33:31,">>133981293 Fuck this flag. First of all capitalism isn't shekel worship and second we're better than national socialists. Fuck the cryptic swastika. Let's have our own identity separate from NatSoc.",,Anonymous,1494650572012.png,Qv37KIfG2p1c/c5vjtg74w==,US,,1500305611 133981008,133985910,2017-07-17 15:39:43,">>133981008 Capitalism is antichrist i.e. why we have our current situation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500305983 133981008,133985930,2017-07-17 15:40:02,">>133985361 >First of all capitalism isn't shekel worship No, that's exactly what it is. As I explained to OP (who disappeared immediately): either the primary drive of people is the pursuit of capital (capitalism) or it isn't their primary drive (not capitalism). That is literal ""shekel worship"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1500306002 133981008,133986039,2017-07-17 15:41:03,">>133981008 >Main religion will be Christianity. Haha, no.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500306063 133981008,133986973,2017-07-17 15:50:08,>>133984347,,Anonymous,cleansing_of_the_temple.jpg,WUVxzn3/aXaAXtdA0PweSg==,US,,1500306608 133981008,133987004,2017-07-17 15:50:23,">>133981008 I'm on board with that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500306623 133981008,133987105,2017-07-17 15:51:24,">>133981008 now that's something i can support",,Anonymous,,,,,1500306684 133981008,133987186,2017-07-17 15:52:04,">>133987105 >>133987004 It's an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500306724 133981008,133987306,2017-07-17 15:53:25,">>133987186 you just don't know how to do it right",,Anonymous,pinochet.jpg,SJlzppFTsddIjG69n6MOBg==,,,1500306805 133981008,133987403,2017-07-17 15:54:20,">>133981008 How many children can I fuck then?",,Generalphilip81,,,DE,,1500306860 133981008,133987483,2017-07-17 15:55:11,">>133987186 No, it is not.",,Anonymous,1776.jpg,rU27ePiZnKxnPLyxHFocaw==,,,1500306911 133981008,133987487,2017-07-17 15:55:14,isn't national capitalism just fascism with a fancy name?,,Anonymous,1484557255374.jpg,Jo6FN7WzmSKf2sPVy14JIw==,,,1500306914 133981008,133987565,2017-07-17 15:55:56,Most Neo-Confederates and Klan types already hold to these sort of views,,Anonymous,,,,,1500306956 133981008,133987915,2017-07-17 15:59:26,">>133987483 Yes it is. read: >>133983006 >>133987306 Yeah, worked great. With no real outside direct interference, Chile is back to being ruled over by Marxist-socialists with utter subversion in the education and media system. Great example for a counterargument.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500307166 133981008,133988245,2017-07-17 16:02:45,">>133987487 No, it's just National Socialism for people who don't understand that it's an oxymoron and who still believe that all socialism is Marxist-socialism that has been beaten into their brains since birth by their education system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500307365 133981008,133988372,2017-07-17 16:04:14,">>133987915 Well then according to your definition Adam Smith himself wasn't a capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500307454 133981008,133988481,2017-07-17 16:05:11,">>133987915 and nazi germany lost WWII, doesn't mean that you wouldn't support national socialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1500307511 133981008,133988492,2017-07-17 16:05:15,">>133987487 Fascism involves corporatism, while national capitalism does not. The most government interference that national capitalism has over the economy is in the form of protectionism.",,Anonymous,revolution.png,BtggOgvUYDzdOvlXpCLMrA==,,,1500307515 133981008,133988496,2017-07-17 16:05:18,"I maked this. The central symbol is supposed to symbolise the dollar, the largest modern currency The electron shells outside are supposed to symbolise scientific progress and the gear on the right is supposed to symbolise industrial production",,Anonymous,Capitalism_Logo1.jpg,SQAEgT6pM83sZwqrFzpLAQ==,IN,,1500307518 133981008,133988804,2017-07-17 16:08:24,">>133981008 >>133988496 no clue if this is a workable ideology but i like the flags!",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500307704 133981008,133988828,2017-07-17 16:08:38,">>133981008 Lol, fuck your authoritarian ideology. There will be resistance.",,Anonymous,Bandera_CNT-FAI.svg (1).png,k/dGK5ye7mLMSfZECP1LCQ==,,,1500307718 133981008,133989119,2017-07-17 16:11:55,">>133988828 >There will be resistance. From who? The working class supports us, the military and police support us, the only people on your side are the unemployed and some of the rich people backing them.",,Anonymous,smoke.jpg,FdlwX8XJf6J59ljUL3ibkw==,,,1500307915 133981008,133989220,2017-07-17 16:12:50,">>133988828 am i the only one that reads it as ""cunt fai""? really makes it more ridicolous than it already is",,Anonymous,,,,,1500307970 133981008,133989299,2017-07-17 16:13:40,">>133981008 >National Capitalism >In a global system of trades what n oxymoron ,lmao ,no logic is found in kekistanitard",,Anonymous,1495665970767.gif,3dhU9m6S1FdzoHm75CoRHA==,LT,,1500308020 133981008,133989315,2017-07-17 16:13:48,">>133988481 >you walked right into it Having all three of the world's super powers beat you in a war proves that it requires massive scale direct outside interference to destroy National Socialism. With enough military strength any state-ideology is capable of being destroyed. Pinochet being the example you used is the exact opposite. His views on how Chile should exist fell apart with nothing more than small amounts of subversion from outside forces with the entire fight against him being done by his own countrymen. Utter false equivalency. Try again if you like. >>133988372 Smith was the original laissez-faire economist (even if that isn't a word that was around during his time). He was definitely a capitalist. His view on economics is that profit motive should be the key driving force behind all economic activity. So I ask you, what are you trying to get at?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500308028 133981008,133989454,2017-07-17 16:15:06,">>133988496 Thanks ben garrison I didn't realize the dollar sign represents dollars. We got a fuckin genius over here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500308106 133981008,133989528,2017-07-17 16:15:45,">>133989315 lad, or whatever you call yourself, we shouldn't be enemies, the opposite in fact, commies are more of a threat than you are to me or i am to you",,Anonymous,,,,,1500308145 133981008,133989622,2017-07-17 16:16:39,">>133989315 How national socialist country would function in todays world ?wouldnt it be quarantined and thus failed state?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1500308199 133981008,133989844,2017-07-17 16:18:51,">>133981008 You still lack the ""socialism"" part, i.e. welfare state. It is not put into for sheer conviction, but of necessity. Why? Because the welfare state makes sure enough gibs me dat are available so that the people won't start rioting. No matter the form of government, you have to keep the people happy and controlled and you literally do that with contolling mechanisms like public health care and similar things. Otherwise, you are doomed in the long run.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500308331 133981008,133990004,2017-07-17 16:20:39,">>133981008 >Jews get helicoptered >National religion is Christianity wew lad",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500308439 133981008,133990058,2017-07-17 16:21:15,">>133981008 Unironically: does capitalism with national central bank and otherwise all financial sector offed count as national capitalism? It looks like a good way to reduce Jewish influence.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1500308475 133981008,133990173,2017-07-17 16:22:13,">>133989315 >His view on economics is that profit motive should be the key driving force behind all economic activity. That IS the key driving force, I can be patriotic as fuck but if I'm going to be undertaking some major task I better get some personal reward as well. >So I ask you, what are you trying to get at? My point is that you're making the definition of National Socialism so broad that most nations could be considered national socialist, including 1776 America. Fascism and National Socialism are actual ideologies involving specific policies, such as corporatism, not merely ""patriotic capitalism"".",,Anonymous,pistol.jpg,R90GQnhRuU2YRiOGd59H0A==,,,1500308533 133981008,133990311,2017-07-17 16:23:38,">>133989622 Well National Socialism represents a type of modified Autarky (economic self sufficiency), that believes that economic activity should be focused within a country wherever it is economically viable ( as opposed to North Korea that does it even at the starvation cost of it's own citizens). Having a National Socialist state in the modern system therefore is most desirable in a country with both the population, industrial capacity and the natural resources to sustain itself in most areas of economic activity. But even then, in the areas where it isn't possible, National Socialists only have to play the key weakness of capitalists in other countries: their desire to accumulate the highest profits from every transaction. There are many countries in the world with massive natural resources but no brains to use them that can be exploited for the necessary natural resources irregardless of international ""quarantine"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1500308618 133981008,133990319,2017-07-17 16:23:42,">>133981008 >>133981246 >>133981293 >3 posts by this id you niggas are posting in a bait thread man are you a bunch of gullible retards",,Anonymous,1500106098264.png,aNnWzwXZHvxAP7wOlWykTQ==,,,1500308622 133981008,133990332,2017-07-17 16:23:56,">>133989844 Healthcare can be implement on a local level, by the county and state governments. If the poor want federal healthcare, then let them riot and be put down by the police.",,Anonymous,1024px-Mike_Mullen_with_Chilean_honor_guard_in_Santiago_3-3-09.jpg,FyTjqT4xlNxv4jZem1hRKw==,,,1500308636 133981008,133990381,2017-07-17 16:24:23,">>133981008 >christianity Into the trash it goes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500308663 133981008,133990455,2017-07-17 16:25:15,I like this.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1500308715 133981008,133990505,2017-07-17 16:25:46,">>133990319 THE GOYIM KNOW",,Anonymous,the-goyim-know-shut-it-down-jew-walkie-talkie.jpg,03bBgnR/JtV97XQSRLYBWg==,,,1500308746 133981008,133990600,2017-07-17 16:26:50,">>133981008 You lost me at (((Free Market))). Deregulating everything just ensures the current (((powerful multinational corporations))) can carte blanche destroy the rest of their competition and complete our financial enslavement. A ""free market"" might be an eventual goal, but you couldn't switch from our current system to that without killing everybody. Which violates the NAP. The rest of it is right on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500308810 133981008,133990784,2017-07-17 16:28:43,">>133990058 Just make sure it gets audited frequently.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500308923 133981008,133991029,2017-07-17 16:31:05,">>133990311 Could u give me a basic gestalt on autarky economy model ?also how would nat soc work in small countries like baltic region ?does it even can work ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500309065 133981008,133991087,2017-07-17 16:31:36,">be ancap >everything in society is decided by the consumer, the lowest common denominator >muh cummies, muh pleasure, muh convenience, muh utility is prioritized because profit >a society for the people >""redpilled"" ""right wing"" o i am laffin",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500309096 133981008,133991424,2017-07-17 16:35:07,">>133990004 This lmao OP is a fucking dipshit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500309307 133981008,133991464,2017-07-17 16:35:36,">>133991029 > does it even can work Christ this board is full of retards",,Anonymous,,,,,1500309336 133981008,133991709,2017-07-17 16:37:47,">>133990173 >That IS the key driving force, I can be patriotic as fuck but if I'm going to be undertaking some major task I better get some personal reward as well. Wanting money from your hard work and generating the most profits possible can be entirely separate. Capitalism is about using the radical excesses of markets to extract the most possible money from a community, even at the expense of the community. But as I have stated previously, markets aren't only utilized by capitalists. If I was to get involved in a market venture, it would be to provide the best goods/services to the community in an attempt to ensure the best outcome for that community and that community would reward that idea with patronage and thus profits. The United States as an example is the literal opposite of that (as far as market economics is concerned). Massive swathes of the public live in degenerate profligacy over shit they don't need and this live in poverty and a state of economic slavery in the form of debt. That is capitalism area of markets: whatever can be gotten away with in the pursuits of profits is acted upon. >My point is that you're making the definition of National Socialism so broad that most nations could be considered national socialist, including 1776 America. Fascism and National Socialism are actual ideologies involving specific policies, such as corporatism, not merely ""patriotic capitalism"". No. National Socialism views economics as a secondary consideration and while it does use markets, the key defining factor of National Socialism is it's social and demographic policies. As far as it's economics were concerned, National Socialist Germany was completely run of the mill. But because of the markets it utilizes, but doesn't focus specifically on, it ahs the same traits as many other market systems. But you said it yourself: 1776 cannot be National Socialist because of it's non-economic system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500309467 133981008,133991806,2017-07-17 16:38:47,">>133991087 >what is patronage",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1500309527 133981008,133991880,2017-07-17 16:39:31,">>133990311 Lets say we take Estonia ,we implement nat soc ,country which has : No resources ,no man power .How can we sustain social programs without increasing taxes which leads to foreign investments and capital leaving country thus ->massive loss of jobs, whats the solution here ? the way i see it its only automatization and heavy subsidation into strategical nation owned business like it was done in south korea at beguining(business side)",,Anonymous,,,,,1500309571 133981008,133992381,2017-07-17 16:44:19,">>133991880 >>133991029 As a basic rule, the smaller the country, the less it can utilize an autarky economic model. The Baltic states are quite small and as such are very restricted in the way they can commit to economics, being heavily reliant on outside resources and capital. The key element would be to buy Estonian goods and services where it is viable to. And since National Socialism views economics as a secondary consideration, the whole point is the preservation of your people, culture and territory.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500309859 133981008,133992514,2017-07-17 16:45:27,">>133981008 Cuck religion instead of manly esoteric hitlerism or neo-paganism. What kind of ""Christianity?"" The Catholicism that fagged out after Vatican II and got filled with kid-raping homos or the Southern Baptists who ""condemn racism"" or the moronic Mormons who don't allow caffeine? If you had the spirit of medieval Catholicism alive, then MAYBE. Make part of the plan appointing an Anti-Pope in St. Louis and we'll talk.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500309927 133981008,133993085,2017-07-17 16:51:11,">>133981008 >>Free Market >>Nationalism is always put above globalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500310271 133981008,133993203,2017-07-17 16:52:19,">>133992381 thank you for answers ,still tho i cant see it working in todays world at small scale without having huge deficits in budgets or being ganged up on like n.korea case ,i guess we need to wait for robots . >>133992514 >neo -paganism didnt himler and thule society practiced child sacrifice to further their goals ?,i dont support crist cucks but while nazi germany was officially christian(?) ,elite behind the doors practiced paganism/satanism",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1500310339 133981008,133993424,2017-07-17 16:54:49,">>133992514 This. If Christianity ever wants to be taken seriously on /pol/ you guys should have your own little council somewhere and aryanize the fuck out of it. Any reference to man must be european. Any text about egalitarainism and cucking should simply just be removed as jewish heretical filth that wormed its way into the bible. Add hitler was a prophet. DO WHATEVER THE FUCK IT TAKES TO FIX CHRISTIANITY. As it stands, the religion is a garbage heap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500310489 133981008,133993436,2017-07-17 16:54:55,Daily reminder that Ancaps aren't nationalists.,,Anonymous,ancaps.png,2a07JRmRmguEDnz8+2XErg==,US,,1500310495 141393414,141393414,2017-09-13 13:41:27,"Quick Rundown: Like National Socialism, without the socialism label, swastika baggage, and dictatorship. Capitalism, but with Nationalism to prevent (((globalism))). Like Libertarianism, without the faggots, drugs, and mass migration. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Share links, PDFs, reading, videos, and propaganda. > SMASH MARXISM! > PURGE DEGENERACY! > DISMANTLE (((INTERNATIONAL BANKING)))! Advanced Rundown: What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of profits for the international cliques. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General,Anonymous,1503952124691.jpg,ps8m+B928LLA/HVGo0eq5g==,US,,1505310087 141393414,141393477,2017-09-13 13:42:14,">But Capitalism is about profits, Nationalism is about Nation, those things can’t go together right? National Capitalism is about profits for the nation. POLITICAL POSITION https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html A good briefing that fails to mention race. Nations cannot be multiracial. National Capitalism is at its core a return to the America the founding fathers envisioned, before the 1965 Immigration Act and a reversal of globalist trends. >What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Immigration Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been reset. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html",,Anonymous,1060x600-24d48f347a7b2d274dc4d6b59980d8f5.jpg,HNpmdLKdFz4w4zpvIw7qHQ==,US,,1505310134 141393414,141393696,2017-09-13 13:44:33,Lol,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505310273 141393414,141396024,2017-09-13 14:07:44,">>141393414 I am a paleolibertarian, do I fit in?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505311664 141393414,141396274,2017-09-13 14:10:16,">>141393477 >America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Immigration Act of 1790 It was built by Englishmen, for Englishmen. Hence why John Jay spoke of ""one people speaking a common language"" and Franklin said: ""Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our Language or Customs, any more than they can acquire our Complexion."" You sacrificed your country to mass immigration from Ireland Germany and Eastern Europe long ago. As America is no longer an English nation I don't see the point in trying to conjure up some sort of white identity on the basis of the Founders' statements. Why not choose to associate with people of good moral character instead, regardless of colour? Why do they have to be white? Why not simply advocate for more power at the local level and for more freedom of association?",,Anonymous,1505214423016.jpg,FJ6PPF5msycYFcSSiH+NNw==,GB,,1505311816 141393414,141397087,2017-09-13 14:18:31,Don't post this normie shit on my board again.,,Anonymous,1499899676453.png,dZ9Z6Z40M9khxaPYqCm2QA==,US,,1505312311 141393414,141397425,2017-09-13 14:22:00,">>141393414 >>141393477 Is this the same OP from last nights NatCap thread? Thanks for making a general!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505312520 141393414,141398536,2017-09-13 14:32:04,"I really like this idea and I don't know why more won't get behind it. The old patriotic American aesthetic is God like.",,Anonymous,1477771549076.jpg,jJnRkYm/8u3Z69dCfdIVuw==,US,,1505313124 141393414,141399011,2017-09-13 14:36:30,">>141396274 >trying to conjure up some sort of white identity on the basis of the Founders' statements. Why not choose to associate with people of good moral character instead, regardless of colour? Naturalization Act of 1790: 'any alien, being a free white person,Alien whites may become citizens, and how. who shall have resided within the limits and under the jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof, on application to any common law court of record, in any one of the states wherein he shall have resided for the term of one year at least, and making proof to the satisfaction of such court, that he is a person of good character' Because non-whites do not vote to conserve the Constitution, at all. They vote for communists at every turn. The way to fix this is to get the White birthrate back up. It is the nonviolent, non-governmental solution to the balkanization threat. >>141397425 That's me bud. More general information: Libertarianism is basically a dead ideology, just like the altright is dead, and National Socialism is a dead label. National Capitalism places all these groups, who already agree with one another, under the same label and flag. It is also a much more accurate label than any of these groups currently use, infinitely more advantageous to appeal to the public, and it drives the left to attack American imagery and ideals even more. >Altright is obviously dead since Charlottesville. >Libertarians decided become ethnonationalists since non-whites keep voting to destroy the Constitution >Natsocs are not actually socialists. Every time someone brings up the socialist label they shirk from it. The 1930's National Socialists were not even Socialists. They either adopted the label to appeal to the atmosphere of the era, or at most the used a radically different definition of 'socialism' that in no way matches the modern understanding of the term.",,Anonymous,9da5a2e8dbadc6f27e3d4d390579e4d9.jpg,3Y/JRPtb+Q3KK4tpHhXA2g==,US,,1505313390 141393414,141399201,2017-09-13 14:38:25,"Is this a containement thread for all those american ""nationalsocialists"" who say NatSoc has nothing to do with Socialism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505313505 141393414,141399507,2017-09-13 14:41:32,">>141399201 Nope! NatCap is to replace NatSoc as the way forward for America! It's the same fucking thing, just tailored to America like how NatSoc was tailored to Germany, without the swastika baggage!",,Anonymous,1502422521251.jpg,Z/baNr9Vsr6xaI9TfI/4og==,US,,1505313692 141393414,141399913,2017-09-13 14:45:56,What about paleolibertarianism?,,Anonymous,,,,,1505313956 141393414,141399978,2017-09-13 14:46:35,">>141399507 You are probably just like them but you will actually admit that you aren't a real NatSoc",,Anonymous,,,,,1505313995 141393414,141400620,2017-09-13 14:53:43,">>141399978 No, I've just considered myself a Nationalist for a long time since both Left and Right fucking suck shit now. I've tried to swallow the NatSoc pill for quite some time now, but the amount of baggage associated with it makes it a hard sell. NatCap was probably the easiest sell ever for me! I've never seen a political ideology that made so much Goddamn sense, and it's both the same thing as NatSoc, and what the Founding Fathers have always wanted for the nation I love! The door for NatSoc has been permanently closed for me, but that doesn't make us enemies. We share the same goal for Western Civ. NatSoc can still work for Europe, but NatCap is what America was meant to be.",,Anonymous,1505275719599.jpg,as31QuuUSI/Ny2JQIOZmJg==,US,,1505314423 141393414,141400642,2017-09-13 14:53:56,"> Oy vey it's the Nazis Surprise cockface, we're not the Nazis, we're their free market non-union equivalent, the Napis. > d-do I still have to go in the oven goyim Good God no, that would be a violation of the NAP. Also the roads don't work any more. Can I borrow some mo- > kvetches in overlord",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1505314436 141393414,141400794,2017-09-13 14:55:21,>>141393414,,Anonymous,1505296412969.jpg,BpdLT8Pa8t6Sw2YG8w2HXQ==,CA,,1505314521 141393414,141401354,2017-09-13 15:01:23,">Like National Socialism, without the socialism label, swastika baggage, and dictatorship. >Capitalism, but with Nationalism to prevent (((globalism))). >Like Libertarianism, without the faggots, drugs, and mass migration. So run-of-the-mill paleoconservative? It's amazing how thoroughly bluepilled /pol/ has turned ever since it had to reconcile Trump's blatant kikery.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1505314883 141393414,141402356,2017-09-13 15:11:42,">>141401354 No I think there's a certain difference. OP would know more then I would. https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505315502 141393414,141403181,2017-09-13 15:20:03,">>141402356 So where can I read more about NatCap besides the link that's been posted?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505316003 141393414,141405266,2017-09-13 15:41:12,"Though OP hasn't answered any of my two posts, which I think is not very nice, I generally think that this is an okay idea, and I am personally in favor of self-segregation and immigration control myself",,Anonymous,,,,,1505317272 141393414,141406711,2017-09-13 15:55:09,">>141393414 >National capitalism C U C K. Don't you have to suck some rich guys cock? ""National Capitalism"" was the West 100 years ago. How did that turn out?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505318109 141393414,141407911,2017-09-13 16:06:46,">>141405266 Why do I need to answer you? Do you agree with the ideas of National Capitalism? If so you are a part of it. Paleolibertarian theoretically hold the same ideas as National Capitalism, since both want to follow the path laid out by the founders. The only potential difference is in what you think the founders wanted.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505318806 141393414,141408201,2017-09-13 16:09:50,">>141393414 Start a faction called the National Democratic Caucus within the Demonic Rat Party... Present as natsocs and make it a way to frame the alt-right as really on the left, but it can also be a way of subverting them back towards our conservatism.",,Anonymous,IMG_7510.jpg,qRi3upejt+NSIiM4aOQZ+Q==,US,,1505318990 141393414,141409927,2017-09-13 16:26:23,"Hey OP, if you don't mind, I copied your info onto a post on The_Donald for them to check it out. I added links and some additional wording so it's not complete plagerism, but they get the idea your trying to convey on here. I figured they might be a good audience for it. https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/6zx7gx/what_is_national_capitalism/",,Anonymous,1501710015174.jpg,1I48EpGqcAjOlecQqqvuIw==,US,,1505319983 141393414,141410320,2017-09-13 16:30:11,">>141409927 >Hey OP, if you don't mind, I copied your info onto a post on The_Donald for them to check it out. This is now a redpill thread",,Anonymous,1498772091515.png,uhVXPRMMv6FAiIUVaCFQPw==,US,,1505320211 141393414,141410409,2017-09-13 16:30:59,">>141409927 >>141410320",,Anonymous,1503431816219.jpg,Vgu6C08M3sH2HNcBdtMs5w==,US,,1505320259 141393414,141410507,2017-09-13 16:31:57,>>141409927,,Anonymous,1497024624567.png,r1t2tO6EKRAvoN2KaagkJg==,US,,1505320317 141393414,141410675,2017-09-13 16:33:42,">>141409927 >>141410320 >>141410409 >>141410507",,Anonymous,1497391069848.jpg,ZEcQ72jIF+xhckXFSLsXQw==,US,,1505320422 141393414,141410900,2017-09-13 16:36:17,">>141410320 >>141410409 >>141410507 >>141410675 Quit piggybacking off my post faggot. This is a NatCap thread.",,Anonymous,1505287307514.png,IMmnNsxAqDKQsPheOVgUbw==,US,,1505320577 141393414,141411072,2017-09-13 16:37:50,>>141410900,,Anonymous,1497661315298.png,fwfuGbQTY9jkQh+0xVeXQw==,US,,1505320670 141393414,141411209,2017-09-13 16:39:12,>>141409927,,Anonymous,1498962809796.jpg,2l8b77M3xij1UtlOsTrI7g==,US,,1505320752 141393414,141411277,2017-09-13 16:39:59,">>141393414 What level are irony are we on anon?",,Anonymous,1433918168264.png,vOThmsP6DDRMRXSvY8aj9g==,,,1505320799 141393414,141411573,2017-09-13 16:42:45,">>141409927 1",,Anonymous,1500086234245.jpg,JgVCSWEqHW6R/JCTqSSMZg==,US,,1505320965 141393414,141411647,2017-09-13 16:43:28,"Is it the *word* socialism inherent in NatSoc which you don't like, from an optics perspective; or is the actual economic policies of the NSDAP that you take umbrage with? because they seemed to have a pretty bad ass economy.",,Anonymous,1505263575847m.jpg,DGeqdFGNYeDS5vKksJerIA==,US,,1505321008 141393414,141411746,2017-09-13 16:44:30,">>141393414 Just when you thought you made enough chambers in the Gulag...",,Joseph Stalin III,,,,,1505321070 141393414,141411815,2017-09-13 16:45:06,">>141411647 >Is it the *word* socialism inherent in NatSoc which you don't like, from an optics perspective; or is the actual economic policies of the NSDAP that you take umbrage with? because they seemed to have a pretty bad ass economy. Exactly. Anyone who self-identifies as ""national capitalism"" comes off as a pinko who loves their (((free market))).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505321106 141393414,141412079,2017-09-13 16:47:38,">>141393414 National without socialism is retarded. Like , completly fucked up. Nation : solidarity on geography Natsoc : solidarity on race then geography Capitalism: nothing but profit matters Natcap : impossible. Since only profit matters. Not nation or race. Retard. It is basic logic.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1505321258 141393414,141412585,2017-09-13 16:52:12,">>141412079 >retarded frog that doesn't read provided link on NatCap and is talking about shit he knows nothing about",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505321532 141393414,141412751,2017-09-13 16:53:50,">>141412585 >t. Retarded American who cannot summarize key points, rather must post links. A sure sign of someone who does not understand the information.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505321630 141393414,141413185,2017-09-13 16:58:03,">>141412079 Soil is important, but secondary to blood. If Pepe the Time Wizard traveled back to Germany, 1933, and had its population switched person for person with Libya, Libya would then be Germany. The soil you stand on has utility; but your nation is your people. One blood, one soil: but putting primacy of soil over blood is a (((trick))).",,Anonymous,1505270617730.jpg,mA8HsaUZHWhK8waPLi5hgg==,US,,1505321883 141393414,141413260,2017-09-13 16:58:56,"I fall very much in line with the ideas of a national capitalist; but the emphasis on promoting national and racial pride MUST be made for a true natcap system not to just fall back into degenerate madness cuz muh profits. This means things akin to the boy scouts (or hitler youth) widespread, pro-us propoganda using truth as a sword kept as a CONSTANT to drive back our enemies, and a focus on our history and future not to blackened by the fingers of educational marxists and international jewry. Regardless of the path we walk, its gonna be fuckin' tough. Pic related. Identifies as NatCap.",,Anonymous,maxresdefault.jpg,5j0idV48S9dI3b9vc4C2kw==,US,,1505321936 141393414,141413417,2017-09-13 17:00:41,">>141393477 >>141393414 You have national capitalism right now and alot of good that's doing us. >>>/the_Donald/",,Codename Rico,,,US,,1505322041 141393414,141413799,2017-09-13 17:04:52,">>141413417 No. Our current system is very obviously a socialist one. Not quite as socialist as other nations have become, but close. And you know what? This could work, if we were all one race and had a healthy national spirit. But we aren't. Perhaps we should focus on getting true ethnonationalism down first before the true debate between capitalism and socialism as systems can go ahead, both have pros and cons in the right areas.",,Anonymous,1491028844124.png,XJ18BJApMWUdRIy50criSA==,US,,1505322292 141393414,141413801,2017-09-13 17:04:53,"How exactly are we going to improve the white birth rate though? What nations have done it successfully? And if we improve the white birth rate, couldn't whatever strategy we used inadvertently raise Hispanic and black birth rates as well, defeating the whole purpose?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322293 141393414,141413934,2017-09-13 17:06:13,">>141413801 >How exactly are we going to improve the white birth rate though? What nations have done it successfully? And if we improve the white birth rate, couldn't whatever strategy we used inadvertently raise Hispanic and black birth rates as well, defeating the whole purpose? Birth rates is not the solution. Middle-Upper class people are not going to start popping out 5 or six kids on average.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322373 141393414,141413972,2017-09-13 17:06:39,">>141412751 I'm still digesting the information myself, but from what I read, it makes a LOT sense and I agree with all of it. What's so hard to understand about NatCap?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322399 141393414,141414091,2017-09-13 17:08:01,">>141413801 In a system based on pure competition, both races will fall short. The only reason they are so prosperous now is because we have this strange obsession with giving them shit. Welfare, food stamps, section-8 housing, scholarships and affirmative action and all manner of preferential treatment, to top it off with foreign aid to their virtually savage brothers. Cultural Marxism hard at work. Natcap is against that shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322481 141393414,141414122,2017-09-13 17:08:19,">>141413934 Not unless Trump gives them tax cuts like he plans on doing.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322499 141393414,141414171,2017-09-13 17:08:55,">>141413934 We aren't going to realistically deport every Hispanic or black, either.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322535 141393414,141414366,2017-09-13 17:10:41,">>141393414 Eat shit with your capitalism you jew slave,also democracy....the fuck!?Are you retarded kid!?Jews thrive in capitalism and democracy thats the most retarded shit ever. Also the US should have free education and healthcare minus the non-whites and it would be heaven on earth.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1505322641 141393414,141414581,2017-09-13 17:12:46,">>141413972 I understand it, But capitalism is not compatible with nationalism. In capitalism, the ONLY thing that matters is profit. >>141414122 >Not unless Trump gives them tax cuts like he plans on doing. Still not going to happen. The tax cut is going to be a typical GOP business cut. Even if it was significant, promoting a race to the bottom is not a good strategy. >>141414171 No shit. How could you seriously convince people to deport a population that has been here since before the founding of America, or a group that has been American citizens for the past 100 years.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505322766 141393414,141414624,2017-09-13 17:13:14,">>141393414 I think that the economic question is kind of subordinate to other aims. It's a toolbox, and government intervention or corporatism are tools that we shouldn't throw away without reason. Nationalism is what normalfags are conditioned against, not -national socialism- per se, or rather they've been trained to equate the two. On the other hand, there's no reason not to rebrand a fascist platform as natcap or natcon if that's who we want to appeal to. Third positionism and all that.",,Anonymous,1461291525921.jpg,A75GLaCn48LoIG+lR5Wqlg==,US,,1505322794 141393414,141414890,2017-09-13 17:15:33,">>141393414 >Like National Socialism, without the socialism label, swastika baggage, and dictatorship. You mean return to what America was supposed to be?",,Anonymous,1440192278730.jpg,yWZo0ahM8DqIAgTzXwQ37g==,,,1505322933 141393414,141415162,2017-09-13 17:18:00,"Greed is Good, and helps to advance us, so long as it is tempered by strong national identity and racial pride. Humans are built to compete, in all aspects of life. This should be encouraged for us to be the best version of us we can be. But as stated, without devoting ourselves to higher ideals and building a strong culture for our children, none of it matters.",,Anonymous,1500508214713.jpg,EGLINZzXenSfM10vu7hOkA==,US,,1505323080 141393414,141415245,2017-09-13 17:18:53,">>141415162 >Greed is Good Did you not see what happened in that movie?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505323133 141393414,141415503,2017-09-13 17:21:18,">>141415245 Wasn't a movie quote, was a general statement that remains true despite media depictions. The rest of my statement is dedicated to what circumstances are required for greed to not lead to decadence. I prefer to remember Arnie as he was, not as he is.",,Anonymous,1499996340821.jpg,/B9veXOQ761XurOTps2P6w==,US,,1505323278 141393414,141415680,2017-09-13 17:22:50,">>141415503 >Wasn't a movie quote Yes it is. It is a very famous one from a movie 30 years ago. Anyway, you cannot support unrestricted free markets unless you are content with the situation of the West.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505323370 141393414,141415913,2017-09-13 17:25:06,">>141415680 I didn't use it as a movie quote, so it wasn't a movie quote. A totally unrestricted market is not what I'm after. A severely less restricted one, tempered by honor in a better environment, is. https://youtu.be/D6r_u5fo5uc",,Anonymous,1491011672871.jpg,+VOzVd0K36MCf3CaIyLm4A==,US,,1505323506 141393414,141415931,2017-09-13 17:25:18,">>141393414 yikes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505323518 141393414,141416080,2017-09-13 17:26:57,">>141415913 >Tempered by honor fucking kek. There is no honor in capitalism. You posted a Youtube video by someone who I do not know, who is using a famous movie quote from a movie as old as him. You can say ""I'll be back"" is not being used as a movie quote, it still is. Wall Street is honestly a very good example of the nature of capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505323617 141393414,141416339,2017-09-13 17:29:46,,,Anonymous,1469247213382.jpg,z/YN/Y+P6VrbIPBd2ucBQQ==,US,,1505323786 141393414,141416468,2017-09-13 17:31:09,">>141416080 Wall street is a fine example of capitalism gone wrong. If you don't like our ideas and want to be a cunt about it, you can fuck right off. Greedisgood is a gold and lumber providing hack in Warcraft 3, does that mean I was referencing that game when I said it?",,Anonymous,1489606823577.jpg,Fg4WN3gnm0meqSZbt58YZw==,US,,1505323869 141393414,141416678,2017-09-13 17:33:27,">>141416080 This, how can any Nationalist support capitalism when we saw millions of corporate dollars flood Clinton's campaign. Progressive-Capitalism is just as cancer as Progressive-Marxism. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/13/twitter-founder-trump-presidency-short-attention-spans-evan-williams https://ca.news.yahoo.com/facebook-introduces-rules-advertising-hate-speech-133320419--finance.html http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2017/09/12/state-health-department-identifies-hiv-clusters-in-dfw/ Heres your Capitalism OP.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505324007 141393414,141416705,2017-09-13 17:33:41,">>141393414 Fucking dump. Globalization is a key component of true capitalism. This fucking shit will fail completely without it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505324021 141393414,141416725,2017-09-13 17:33:52,">>141416678 Archive >https://theguardian com/us-news/2017/sep/13/twitter-founder-trump-presidency-short-attention-spans-evan-williams https://archive.is/NcpTu",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1505324032 141393414,141416791,2017-09-13 17:34:35,">>141416705 Dumb",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505324075 141393414,141416808,2017-09-13 17:34:47,Sure why not.,,Anonymous,1504770313406.png,K3SvR/tyhvHiGyWwjwETqQ==,,,1505324087 141393414,141417145,2017-09-13 17:38:12,">>141416468 I am trying to point something else. Unrestricted capitalism (the connotation not actual definition) will lead to what the West is in now. People realize this and say that natcap will allow government intervention to protect national interests. This is not very much different from natsoc (ignore all the German imagery, the actual system of government).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505324292 141393414,141418962,2017-09-13 17:56:38,">>141416678 How can any Nationalist support Socialism, the system that despises hierarchy in all its forms. Socialism is just an effort to remove capitalism from an economy entirely, which is like trying to fight gravity. You can either recognize that capitalism exists and create a nation that works within it, or you can be a socialist and be crushed by capitalism. You are not actually a socialist. Every 'natsoc' here and 8pol are just nationalists that despise globalism. Globalism and capitalism are not the same things, capitalism is the constant, globalism is one potential result of economic realities. You can create a different result through nationalism. This is why the ideology is called NATIONAL Capitalism, not Anarcho Capitalism. The people that make up the state act together to compete in the global free market together, in globalism the people in the state act as individuals. Recap: Capitalism is a constant force you must operate within. Globalism is where everyone in the nation acts as an individual, destroying the nation. Nationalism is where everyone in the nation acts as a single force, preventing capitalism from destroying the nation through actions like mass migration and outsourcing. National Capitalism is not Globalism. It is Nationalism that recognizes Capitalism. Read the actual policies of National Socialist Germany and understand that they were not actually socialists, not least by modern standards, they were National Capitalists. http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm",,Anonymous,1352743624-1952--norman-rockwell---jeu-de-piste--huile-sur-toile--89x69-cm.jpg,fAIbhN+ueTzaQLmHahELMg==,US,,1505325398 141393414,141419854,2017-09-13 18:05:04,">>141409927 All good bud. This is essentially the movement to finally drop the useless 'socialist' word and swastika from 'National Socialism' while still preserving the rest of the ideals. Spreading this around is the whole point, as long as the rest of the original ideas stay intact. All help is appreciated. Jump in the terrible discord if anyone is interested: cTnu9",,Anonymous,147932-car-USA-flag-American_flag-748x468.jpg,5+vLVEcpzeE0VamfidgsTQ==,US,,1505325904 141393414,141419869,2017-09-13 18:05:11,">>141417145 >This is not very much different from natsoc That's the fucking point OP is trying to make! But you mouth breathing retards just see Capitalism and knee jerk think that it inevitably results in globalism, which is the point of Nationalism in the equation! NatCap is about profits FOR the nation. NatSoc and NatCap are the same thing. National Socialism is socialistic capitalism. National Capitalism is capitalistic socialism.",,Anonymous,WWII America.jpg,J1jsz6DFDr4ottSirIBfMA==,US,,1505325911 141393414,141420015,2017-09-13 18:06:38,">>141418962 National Socialism does not despise hierarchy. What are you talking about? It promotes a more JUST hierarchy, based upon national service and sacrifice, not how much money you can fuck your neighbors out of. Also I disagree that capitalism is the only form of economics, perhaps we have different definitions of capitalism, but if you regulate the economy to allow only national companys to compete, I got news for you bud, you're a bad capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505325998 141393414,141420942,2017-09-13 18:15:11,">>141420015 Socialism despises hierarchy. National Socialism does not, which is why National Socialism is the incorrect label for the ideology. The original NSDAP only used the word 'socialist' to appeal to the atmosphere of the day and the millions of communists in their country. No modern definition of 'socialism' matches with the NSDAP definition. >regulate the economy to allow only national companys to compete Not at all the message, the nationalist regulation does not imply that all the only companies allowed are national ones.",,Anonymous,2ba47f56203cc7643a474a6141724d58--car-man-cave-classic-muscle-cars.jpg,AMKMatmxb6IvdiTh+IxCIQ==,US,,1505326511 141393414,141421041,2017-09-13 18:16:06,">>141419869 >That's the fucking point OP is trying to make! But you mouth breathing retards just see Capitalism and knee jerk think that it inevitably results in globalism, which is the point of Nationalism in the equation! NatCap is about profits FOR the nation. Calm down autist, breath in-and-out slowly. You and OP are throwing around terms for meme ideologies like ""Nationalistic Capitalism"" and now claiming it is the same as National Socialism???",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505326566 141393414,141421097,2017-09-13 18:16:42,">>141420942 National Socialism is very pro-working class, unlike capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505326602 141393414,141421303,2017-09-13 18:18:48,">National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. >Cucking your own profits because of something as pointless as skin color This isn't capitalism you nigger",,Anonymous,1486353827250.gif,dO1FY+PbuR0W1qihqdN3YA==,,,1505326728 141393414,141421654,2017-09-13 18:22:02,">>141420942 I have to go but one question. Would you be in favor of a national mandatory union that strikes if a company doesn't serve national interests?",,Anonymous,,,,,1505326922 141393414,141421997,2017-09-13 18:25:22,">>141421654 >Would you be in favor of a national mandatory union that strikes if a company doesn't serve national interests? That is national socialism. Hitler did not seize the means of production, he just put an emphasis on protecting the working class",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505327122 141393414,141422170,2017-09-13 18:27:11,">>141421997 How is a mandatory national labor union NOT seizing the means of production? wtf.",,Anonymous,,,,,1505327231 141393414,141422452,2017-09-13 18:29:48,">>141422170 >How is a mandatory national labor union NOT seizing the means of production? wtf. There is a difference between unionizing and elimination of private property. Porsche, IG Farben, Fanta and Volkswagen.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505327388 141393414,141422550,2017-09-13 18:30:34,">>141422452 *Were all businesses that were not state owned during natsoc Germany.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505327434 141393414,141422756,2017-09-13 18:32:20,">>141421097 Capitalism is not for or against any group in particular, it just selects the cheapest possible method of creating goods, regardless of human suffering. The Nationalist perspective on this is the incredibly important caveat. The original National Socialists did not even believe in welfare. You can read the policy link I posted above, they stated that everyone had the capability to work, and that even if there was not demand, the excess labor should be put to use to increase national production. There was no welfare programs or 'beating the capitalist system', the nation worked to better perform under the pressures of capitalist reality. The issue is that the word 'socialist' does not meet the NSDAP definition anymore, if the original National Socialists were transported to the modern era they would be considered capitalists, and certainly not called supporters of a welfare state, correct? >>141421303 I never said it was anarcho capitalism. It is National Capitalism, the nation comes first. >skin color No nigger, its iq, culture, and history. Non-whites do not vote conservative ever. There are Europeans of many different shades. >>141421654 A lot of this is focused on the international, trying to keep profits and jobs in the country while cutting immigration to zero to get wages up.",,Anonymous,11537924_490744361082490_7458474404062351799_o.jpg,rlXBlCMlerh3X+KwoWSh9g==,US,,1505327540 141514066,141514066,2017-09-14 13:01:53,"Like National Socialism, without the socialism label, swastika baggage, and dictatorship. Capitalism, but with Nationalism to prevent (((globalism))). Like Libertarianism, without the faggots, drugs, and mass migration. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Share links, PDFs, reading, videos, and propaganda. > SMASH MARXISM! > PURGE DEGENERACY! > DISMANTLE (((INTERNATIONAL BANKING)))! What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of profits for the international cliques. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General - Space Capitalism Edition,Anonymous,1060x600-24d48f347a7b2d274dc4d6b59980d8f5.jpg,HNpmdLKdFz4w4zpvIw7qHQ==,US,,1505394113 141514066,141514135,2017-09-14 13:02:47,">But Capitalism is about profits, Nationalism is about Nation, those things can’t go together right? National Capitalism is about profits for the nation. >Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal. >But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and requiring all citizens to work. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’. If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm",,Anonymous,rts6jwg.jpg,irE0dL3CQo19m4k+TmHzTw==,US,,1505394167 141514066,141514739,2017-09-14 13:08:46,">What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Immigration Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been reset. This is the nonviolent solution to the racial question that can be implemented without government policy, it is purely a cultural shift in Whites through free association. >What about Aesthetics? Libertarianism is basically a dead ideology, just like the altright is dead, and National Socialism is a dead label. National Capitalism places all these groups, who already agree with one another, under the same label and flag. It is also a much more accurate label than any of these groups currently use, infinitely more advantageous to appeal to the public, and it drives the left to attack American imagery and ideals even more. Remember, the founding fathers would have agreed with us. >Altright is obviously dead since Charlottesville. >Libertarians decided become ethnonationalists since non-whites keep voting to destroy the Constitution >Natsocs are not actually socialists. Every time someone brings up the socialist label they shirk from it. The 1930's National Socialists were not even Socialists. They either adopted the label to appeal to the atmosphere of the era, or at most the used a radically different definition of 'socialism' that in no way matches the modern understanding of the term.",,Anonymous,179883main_image_feature_847_ys_full.jpg,Nc/OYOci654Bsf44gLOc3g==,US,,1505394526 141560909,141560909,2017-09-14 20:08:14,"Like National Socialism, without the socialism label, swastika baggage, and dictatorship. Capitalism, but with Nationalism to prevent (((globalism))). Like Libertarianism, without the faggots, drugs, and mass migration. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Share links, PDFs, reading, videos, and propaganda. > SMASH MARXISM! > PURGE DEGENERACY! > DISMANTLE (((INTERNATIONAL BANKING)))! What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of profits for the international cliques. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General - Space Edition,Anonymous,photo-1446941303752-a64bb1048d54-e1478708005998.jpg,VYbJDGpmhIYi45daX3l/Cw==,US,,1505419694 141560909,141561044,2017-09-14 20:09:42,">But Capitalism is about profits, Nationalism is about Nation, those things can’t go together right? National Capitalism is about profits for the nation. >Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal. >But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and requiring all citizens to work. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’. If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm",,Anonymous,rts6jwg.jpg,irE0dL3CQo19m4k+TmHzTw==,US,,1505419782 141560909,141561197,2017-09-14 20:10:54,">What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Immigration Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been reset. This is the nonviolent solution to the racial question that can be implemented without government policy, it is purely a cultural shift in Whites through free association. >What about Aesthetics? Libertarianism is basically a dead ideology, just like the altright is dead, and National Socialism is a dead label. National Capitalism places all these groups, who already agree with one another, under the same label and flag. It is also a much more accurate label than any of these groups currently use, infinitely more advantageous to appeal to the public, and it drives the left to attack American imagery and ideals even more. Remember, the founding fathers would have agreed with us. >Altright is obviously dead since Charlottesville. >Libertarians decided become ethnonationalists since non-whites keep voting to destroy the Constitution >Natsocs are not actually socialists. Every time someone brings up the socialist label they shirk from it. The 1930's National Socialists were not even Socialists. They either adopted the label to appeal to the atmosphere of the era, or at most the used a radically different definition of 'socialism' that in no way matches the modern understanding of the term.",,Anonymous,179883main_image_feature_847_ys_full.jpg,Nc/OYOci654Bsf44gLOc3g==,US,,1505419854 141560909,141561349,2017-09-14 20:12:33,"A previous thread: >>141332388 Obligatory link: https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505419953 141560909,141561658,2017-09-14 20:15:25,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505420125 141560909,141562889,2017-09-14 20:27:33,Huzzah! It's back up!,,Anonymous,1505275719599.jpg,as31QuuUSI/Ny2JQIOZmJg==,US,,1505420853 141560909,141563063,2017-09-14 20:29:24,isn't capitalism runed by jews though?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1505420964 141560909,141563557,2017-09-14 20:34:13,">>141563063 Hence, Nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1505421253 141560909,141563949,2017-09-14 20:37:55,">>141563063 Capitalism is unavoidable, jews 'ruin' capitalism because they are allowed to do business in favor of international interests rather than national ones. Socialism is an effort to defeat capitalism, but you can't defeat capitalism. The only way to defeat capitalism is to completely remove the free market, which is not possible. At the highest levels there is a free market of nations that trade with one another, and at the lowest levels there will always be a black market. One can only choose the position that you participate in capitalism from. Capitalism is a constant, socialism tries to circumvent the meritocracy through wealth distribution, communism tries to circumvent it by doing away with borders, merit, and markets altogether. National Capitalism proposes that you can act as a nation within capitalism. This is basically what America did in the 50's, prior to globalism, and what NS Germany tried to do before they were destroyed.",,Anonymous,1501708599653.jpg,LdtiLVsk0EAvqDXOlODAHQ==,US,,1505421475 141835894,141835894,2017-09-17 01:10:52,"What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of profits for the international cliques. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else. >But Capitalism is about profits, Nationalism is about Nation, those things can’t go together right? National Capitalism is about profits for the nation.",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General - Spaceman Edition,Anonymous,photo-1446941303752-a64bb1048d54-e1478708005998.jpg,VYbJDGpmhIYi45daX3l/Cw==,US,,1505610652 141835894,141835999,2017-09-17 01:12:10,">What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Immigration Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been reset. This is the nonviolent solution to the racial question that can be implemented without government policy, it is purely a cultural shift in Whites through free association. Libertarianism is basically a dead ideology, just like the altright is dead, and National Socialism is a dead label. National Capitalism places all these groups, who already agree with one another, under the same label and flag. It is also a much more accurate label than any of these groups currently use, infinitely more advantageous to appeal to the public, and it drives the left to attack American imagery and ideals even more. >Altright is obviously dead since Charlottesville. >Libertarians decided become ethnonationalists since non-whites keep voting to destroy the Constitution >Natsocs are not actually socialists. Every time someone brings up the socialist label they shirk from it. The 1930's National Socialists were not even Socialists. They either adopted the label to appeal to the atmosphere of the era, or at most the used a radically different definition of 'socialism' that in no way matches the modern understanding of the term.",,Anonymous,outer-space_00423785.jpg,b9h0+Cuku7kLeBl0k9K7YA==,US,,1505610730 141835894,141836154,2017-09-17 01:14:10,">Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to outcompete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal. >But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and requiring all citizens to work. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm National Capitalism proposes that you can act as a nation within capitalism. This is basically what America did in the 50's, prior to globalism, and what NS Germany tried to do before they were destroyed. Discord for those interested: xhS8xe Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/wE8M43Qe",,Anonymous,as17-134-20387.jpg,N6xFZLASWeF7Om+EtPxLrQ==,US,,1505610850 143046914,143046914,2017-09-26 21:58:33,"Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator. With that said let's get this ball rolling. Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General: Pilot Episode,Anonymous,1505906560520.jpg,iQGXo2u6/f7e21M4+T0vUw==,US,,1506463113 143046914,143046972,2017-09-26 21:59:21,">National capitalism It's called mercantilism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506463161 143046914,143047219,2017-09-26 22:02:08,"Other NatCap thread >>143031592",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506463328 143046914,143047452,2017-09-26 22:04:41,">>143046914 >national capitalism Its a fucking meme ideology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506463481 143046914,143047518,2017-09-26 22:05:15,">>143046914 >National Capitalist >implying that's not an oxymoron Capitalism in it's purist form is literally just another form of globalism, fuck off alex jones.",,Anonymous,4ee.png,hRch28jTgQXcrCfmAKqfMQ==,US,,1506463515 143046914,143047788,2017-09-26 22:07:45,">>143047452 >>143047518 >Butthurt commies LIEBER TOT ALS ROT",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506463665 143046914,143047827,2017-09-26 22:08:16,">>143046914 A movement should be based on ideas. Not a fucking identity. baka",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506463696 143046914,143047937,2017-09-26 22:09:25,">>143047827 Is the preservation of white identity not an idea?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506463765 143046914,143048027,2017-09-26 22:10:23,Nationalism does not solve the problems created by capitalism,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506463823 143046914,143048443,2017-09-26 22:14:31,">>143048027 If you are referring to the problem of capitalism encouraging interaction with foreign influence, it certainly does.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506464071 143046914,143049263,2017-09-26 22:23:07,">>143047452 >>143047518 >>143048027 Finally got a NatCap general going, very nice OP, if only /pol/ wasn't so full of share fags",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506464587 143046914,143049440,2017-09-26 22:25:02,">>143046914 Hazza! ((you))",,Anonymous,comfy.jpg,pO+qnopTJgcZ2cX4u6KIVQ==,US,,1506464702 143046914,143049773,2017-09-26 22:28:38,Some flats from the other thread,,Anonymous,1506470672048.jpg,QnywXKAuKaBSTmnVtLlDFQ==,US,,1506464918 143046914,143049802,2017-09-26 22:28:57,,,Anonymous,1506468588870.jpg,JbKI6v2hdREbiVCthRNL/w==,US,,1506464937 143046914,143049845,2017-09-26 22:29:25,,,Anonymous,1506471107083.png,ZOMTKF6v8BhzwZreE3LW+g==,US,,1506464965 143046914,143049981,2017-09-26 22:30:43,Best,,Anonymous,1506478122090.png,m0OLpmBn43vxNSBV4p50aw==,US,,1506465043 143046914,143050134,2017-09-26 22:32:09,,,Anonymous,1458814937105.png,X0pN2YzylLPJZNPsSca2eg==,US,,1506465129 143046914,143050162,2017-09-26 22:32:32,,,Anonymous,1501481875118.png,VRFMPiBKa+0q2i/VPsEesw==,US,,1506465152 143046914,143050239,2017-09-26 22:33:29,">>143047827 Ideas change, identity does not.",,Anonymous,1506064297492.jpg,WIIMOWFrBn2EIPz4QWSvpQ==,,,1506465209 143046914,143050398,2017-09-26 22:35:07,"Think broadly. National Capitalism is potentially capable to bribe the entire population of niggers and sand niggers so that they allow to sterilize themselves.",,Anonymous,21158268.jpg,ixW5PcMhsVErJnopEofpIg==,,,1506465307 143046914,143050747,2017-09-26 22:38:45,Hell ya!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506465525 143046914,143050825,2017-09-26 22:39:31,">>143049802 check this shit out",,Anonymous,flagnatcap1.png,QbmTTpPGo5Yhlc1b17kAUw==,,,1506465571 143046914,143050901,2017-09-26 22:40:25,,,Anonymous,1498612463052.png,PFe03kzFdhs+0iI5KwhC+Q==,US,,1506465625 143046914,143051099,2017-09-26 22:42:16,"""hurr you can't have capitalism without anarchy durr"" A strong government can encourage trade and resource development WITHIN ONES OWN BORDERS as opposed to anarcho-capitalism, which results in globalism and corporatism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506465736 143046914,143051408,2017-09-26 22:45:30,">>143050825 That's a beauty anon. I'll put that in the next OP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506465930 143046914,143051627,2017-09-26 22:47:44,,,Anonymous,1501128097172.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,US,,1506466064 143046914,143051779,2017-09-26 22:49:31,">>143051627 Also saved for later",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506466171 143046914,143051823,2017-09-26 22:50:04,>>143050825,,Anonymous,natcapflag2 copy.png,UERBuc307xsCQC6o8fr/Pg==,,,1506466204 143046914,143051958,2017-09-26 22:51:33,">>143051823 the snake in this flag is representing a border and its protecting the dollar which is inserted in a pocket of anarchy",,Anonymous,,,,,1506466293 143046914,143051977,2017-09-26 22:51:46,,,Anonymous,next-time-identitarian-neo-fascist-bullshit.jpg,vkioZj/CXA1YGGmzePDPsg==,US,,1506466306 143046914,143052717,2017-09-26 22:59:36,">>143051823 here's a variant",,Anonymous,natcapflag2variant.png,hYip1JwrEv7McpmgVew3PA==,,,1506466776 143046914,143052803,2017-09-26 23:00:34,"We need a short, concise definition for NatCap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506466834 143046914,143052856,2017-09-26 23:01:14,">>143051823 >>143052717 These are great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506466874 143046914,143052889,2017-09-26 23:01:37,">>143052717 Jew flag.",,Anonymous,800px-TheosophicalSocietyBudapest.jpg,kyHkLmiJCRd7Ns16uW/jfQ==,US,,1506466897 143046914,143052976,2017-09-26 23:02:31,">>143052803 since it seemingly holds a few internal contradictions (from the viewpoint of a normie), we need to have a written doctrine as opposed to a nebulous ideology. we need maybe an easy to remember 10 point doctrine",,Anonymous,,,,,1506466951 143046914,143053022,2017-09-26 23:03:03,">>143052889 its actually used all over the place. do you have a better way to incorporate a snake",,Anonymous,,,,,1506466983 143046914,143053034,2017-09-26 23:03:11,">>143052976 Good idea",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506466991 143046914,143053434,2017-09-26 23:07:15,Socialism will never be accepted by Conservatives and Libertarians in the US. Capitalism and Nationalism is what connects us.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506467235 143046914,143054645,2017-09-26 23:20:25,"What is national capitalism: >A foreign policy which respects the division between groups, in unison with domestic policy that respects the division between individuals. >An economic allowing the individual to focus on and better himself, benefitting the collective indirectly >An incentive to promote domestic economic growth and resource development based in personal gain, as opposed to mere altruism. This is still an emerging ideology, so this is subject to debate and change.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506468025 143046914,143055212,2017-09-26 23:26:40,,,Anonymous,19247710_1373607779374204_8591524334601606607_n.png,+frYGWAcehO87/QyJvP8gA==,US,,1506468400 143046914,143056071,2017-09-26 23:35:49,"I didn't get a response in the last thread, so is natcap any different than state capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506468949 143046914,143056164,2017-09-26 23:36:45,">>143046914 oc",,Anonymous,libertarian.png,gLMVoSHbI9jNqq0dcrZvxA==,,,1506469005 143046914,143056923,2017-09-26 23:44:55,"National Capitalists are American Nationalist's who oppose Socialism, Marxism and the welfare state. We espouse Traditionalism, Sovereignty, Free Market Capitalism, Individualism, Self Defense. We oppose Marxism, Egalitarianism, Post Modernism, Cultural Marxism, Social Justice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506469495 143046914,143057999,2017-09-26 23:56:21,,,Anonymous,1500856683949.png,/5STPt46nKp0B1BEoYK7rg==,US,,1506470181 143046914,143058666,2017-09-27 00:03:47,">>143056071 National capitalism encourages self sufficiency and is more generally based on the principal that the stronger the people, the stronger the state. State capitalism encourages dependence on the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506470627 143046914,143058973,2017-09-27 00:07:14,You faggots. This is the only flag we need.,,Anonymous,IMG_0023.jpg,o5sHE1nK129qW/YF+xvUBA==,US,,1506470834 143046914,143059054,2017-09-27 00:08:07,">>143058666 Checked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506470887 143046914,143060025,2017-09-27 00:19:10,">>143058666 Oh ya. No welfare state in national capitalism. Only the market!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506471550 143046914,143061461,2017-09-27 00:36:49,,,Anonymous,1495576879085.gif,yehBG6ExbTdm4KBF8sqONg==,US,,1506472609 143046914,143063366,2017-09-27 01:02:15,We also need a slogan!!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506474135 143046914,143063472,2017-09-27 01:03:37,"This movement could easily gather steam if done correctly. The important thing here would be to fuse the free market principles of libertarians (which most people agree with) and the uniting spirit of nationalism. among the key tenants of the movements should include: 1) Strengthening of negative individual rights. Instead of maintaining the current Bill of rights, I believe that we should seek out new rights to add to the constitution. I think a potential cause to champion within the realm of additional rights could be the instillation of a right to privacy (especially online). If we make invasive personal data collection unconstitutional, we would be able to protect the internet from becoming dominated by data-mining corporations and information monitoring governments. 2) The state exists solely to oversee the growth of the nation. How do we grow the American spirit? Its fairly simple: dismantle the welfare state. Before the welfare state, people had to depend on their friends and families to make it through hard times. Rotary Clubs, the Knights of Columbus, Elks Lodges, Shiners, and any religious institution worth their salt are shadows of their former glory. When de' Tocqueville came to America after the revolution, he was amazed at how the american people had support systems that organically arose outside of the purview of the state. The church was not just the religious center of every town, but it was also the center of the community itself. (Additionally, there is a massive correlation between belief in religion and fertility rates in Western nations. So, if the alright is wants white babies, they better hop on board with this). By removing things like social security (which is going to self destruct sooner rather than later), medicare/medicaid (which is bankrupt in nearly every state), and welfare we will be able to stop depending on the government, and return to depending on our neighbor",,Anonymous,9u40h5ywm48y (1).jpg,jzwCvKFSa8Ev72xSE319Og==,US,,1506474217 143046914,143064288,2017-09-27 01:14:38,"3) The state removes itself almost completely from the market. Deregulation of banks (frame it as ""removing the protections of the big banks in order to sell it to normies who don't understand how banking cartels operate), and ""unleashing of american industry. Restructure unions to where their purpose is less about negotiating wages and benefits, and more about providing a place a worker can turn to if they feel they are being exploited. So in a sense they are not a collective bargaining unit, but rather a collective legal representation unit. Allow the wages to normalize and see the industry flood back into the U.S. 4) Id leave it up for debate if we want to go back on the gold standard, or abolish the Fed. Im all for ditching the Fed, except I do worry that without a central bank of our own, the global banking cartel would purposefully sink our nation. I would greatly appreciate someone with any kind of advanced economic background to layout the realistic prospects of what abolishing/restructuring the fed would look like. 4) Call a convention of states. Currently there is a massive push among conservative state legislators to call together a convention of states where we could add amendments to the constitution without congressional approval. I feel that the biggest issue of our movement would be to add property rights to the constitution. 5) There is a historical basis to add property rights to the constitution. Originally, the founders wanted the Declaration of Independence to say ""Life, Liberty, and Property"" but since slaves were still seen as property at the time, many of the founders did not want to enshrine language that would have made it more difficult to abolish slavery in the future. If we correct this, one small word could change the course of American History",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506474878 143046914,143064781,2017-09-27 01:21:42,It also has to be accepted that Communist aren't people and that they are hostile primates!,,Anonymous,1500864372148.jpg,V6vkcpZrrKGwLKEd/C5i2Q==,US,,1506475302 143046914,143065043,2017-09-27 01:25:02,"As for the Nationalist movement. I think that in order to gain mainstream appeal as quickly as possible, we would have to piggy back on the rising tide of anti-leftism. The holdovers from the patriot movement, Tea Partiers, and other anti-leftist movements already are reviving the American identity we would need to give our movement life. The problem with the libertarian party, aside from their massive dysfunction as a unit, is that their party is all policy and no soul. Our party would focus on the soul of America. The left has successfully diluted the American system of values to where people can openly say ""What does it even mean to be an American?"" Our nation has lost its soul, and its our job to bring it back. In order to spread the fires of patriotism, we need an intellectual to cling to, and luckily we already have him. As I stated earlier Alexis de Tocqueville was a Frenchman who came to America after the French Revolution to observe our nation. What he found was a nation that bewildered him. A country so deeply rooted in the values of the enlightenment that he immediately felt that his newly formed French Republic had done their revolution incorrectly. ""Democracy in America"" is the single greatest reflection on what it means to be an American ever put to pen. If we treat de Tocqueville's work as our ""Mein Kampf"" (not in a perverse sense, but the notion of having a singular, tangible reference for the soul of your movement is powerful) than we can bring back Americas soul. I think making ""Democracy in America"" mandatory reading for any one wanting to become a NatCap would be a great way to build a powerful, educated base of activists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506475502 143046914,143065125,2017-09-27 01:26:11,">>143064781 Well obviously we would need a very physical removal once we came into power",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506475571 143046914,143065166,2017-09-27 01:26:51,">>143046914 What do you think OP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506475611 143046914,143065193,2017-09-27 01:27:15,Sharing is terrorism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506475635 143046914,143065394,2017-09-27 01:29:34,">>143065166 found this site on the web. Its a good read. I think we can add a lot to it that is more tangible. http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,nat-cap.jpg,Kc6Z/wQLk9LVxI8G9vmKRg==,US,,1506475774 143046914,143065614,2017-09-27 01:32:23,The west will rise again!,,Anonymous,1499659463987.png,0hiKvitM2D+YC9NnicnzJA==,US,,1506475943 143046914,143066683,2017-09-27 01:46:18,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506476778 143046914,143067352,2017-09-27 01:56:08,,,Anonymous,20155945_107357223259633_3075102217348619984_n.jpg,gTGSADYsm+V2ftVtoVbCYA==,US,,1506477368 143046914,143069611,2017-09-27 02:28:43,,,Anonymous,1496177339719.png,rA46o2SkZyZ0/Z0Td8deXg==,US,,1506479323 143149519,143149519,2017-09-27 19:30:24,"Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator. With that said let's get this ball rolling. Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General: Physical Removal Edition!,Anonymous,1496177339719.png,rA46o2SkZyZ0/Z0Td8deXg==,US,,1506540624 143149519,143150310,2017-09-27 19:38:28,courtesy of t.a.r,,Anonymous,22008488_135585270510162_3725031523104108485_n.png,8MSejI/s92m7rrVbjqkmCg==,,,1506541108 143149519,143150386,2017-09-27 19:39:11,">failings of socialism in the past https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIddCEBCKHQ",,Anonymous,socialism has never worked.png,BjnANyqs5mCPWt+UQUqWYQ==,US,,1506541151 143149519,143150445,2017-09-27 19:39:45,">>143150310 Nice Image!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506541185 143149519,143150610,2017-09-27 19:41:31,"I've seen this one around, but I'd like a better symbol than the dollar sign.",,Anonymous,better flag.jpg,ZwqOQNsXzo767CY9V69dNg==,,,1506541291 143149519,143150743,2017-09-27 19:42:53,I like this one also!!,,Anonymous,1506470672048.jpg,QnywXKAuKaBSTmnVtLlDFQ==,US,,1506541373 143149519,143151390,2017-09-27 19:49:19,"Yes, Finally. National Capitalism. Im in on this. 1. White and Blue flag anon posted looks really good. I like that. It makes sense. 2. Links should have lots of Hoppe and Pinochet 3. Aesthetics have to be new and fresh. Fashwave aesthetic already taken. Need something new. Maybe a cyborg/Transhumist/robot/space type look? Anyone? 4. NapCap definition: Free Market Capitalism contained within National borders. Its that easy. An Anarcho-Capitalist Ethnostate. Also: Anyone want to create a NatCap subreddit with me to reach the plebs?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506541759 143149519,143151583,2017-09-27 19:51:09,"it's a joke. just like being an an-cap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506541869 143149519,143151652,2017-09-27 19:51:52,"Cringe the thread Autistic lolbergs actually believe by inventing an ideology using the word national they will gain /pol/'s approval",,Anonymous,,,,,1506541912 143149519,143151758,2017-09-27 19:52:52,">>143151390 National Capitalism is Sovereignty, Individualism, Traditionalism, Capitalism and rejection of Cultural Marxism, Moral Relativism etc. Its probably a good idea for a sub reddit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506541972 143149519,143151893,2017-09-27 19:54:09,">>143149519 hello fellow (((right wingers)))! anyone attending the mises institute meeting coming up in new york?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542049 143149519,143151923,2017-09-27 19:54:25,">>143151583 Just a friendly reminder leftist will be physically removed!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542065 143149519,143152103,2017-09-27 19:56:25,"I've been gravitating towards something like this lately. I am happy that there's others that feel the same. I am liking where this is going. We do need to keep the snak though",,Anonymous,1488650412537.jpg,KCRX03G+FUQmaskkWxYVtQ==,US,,1506542185 143149519,143152260,2017-09-27 19:58:00,">>143151923 Why are capitalists so afraid of physical things? Is that why they're obsessed with football and cuck porn?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542280 143149519,143152342,2017-09-27 19:58:50,I thought we've been through flags already.,,Anonymous,img170918233848-60af536754f6f89cc7f4465cf4814867.png,YK9TZ1T2+JzH9EZc9IFIZw==,PL,,1506542330 143149519,143152369,2017-09-27 19:59:05,Capitalism is inheritly internationalist,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542345 143149519,143152382,2017-09-27 19:59:13,I like this one.,,Anonymous,IMG_1788.jpg,JbKI6v2hdREbiVCthRNL/w==,,,1506542353 143149519,143152427,2017-09-27 19:59:40,,,Anonymous,IMG_1878.jpg,/mqJs1pvBIhO5PPXTxNpzA==,,,1506542380 143149519,143152451,2017-09-27 19:59:53,">>143151652 We don't care what you faggots think",,Anonymous,1491155221208.jpg,EGBiKztCzBhwDWUig0y2IQ==,US,,1506542393 143149519,143152525,2017-09-27 20:00:34,,,Anonymous,IMG_1841.png,tG+Eaqu80ddNhE8mdNgHJQ==,,,1506542434 143149519,143152539,2017-09-27 20:00:45,">>143150743 what do the colors represent? >I wish have NatCap memes now",,Anonymous,1494459186357.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1506542445 143149519,143152619,2017-09-27 20:01:35,>>143152369,,Anonymous,BasedHoppe.jpg,7TD82yST4+JHM2dow7a59Q==,,,1506542495 143149519,143152649,2017-09-27 20:01:51,">>143152260 How would you like to be physically removed?? By Helicopter or catapult ??",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542511 143149519,143152674,2017-09-27 20:02:09,">>143151923 fuck u you filthy sack licker, i'll fucking have u",,Anonymous,,,,,1506542529 143149519,143152678,2017-09-27 20:02:10,">>143152525 lmao",,Anonymous,,,,,1506542530 143149519,143152679,2017-09-27 20:02:10,">>143152382 capitalism is more than just money, its free association.",,Anonymous,1469327001850.jpg,5nkSS7UZ+xi6C7Arx6UFsQ==,US,,1506542530 143149519,143152738,2017-09-27 20:02:50,">>143151758 Sounds a lot like what the Founding Fathers had in mind, especially Jefferson and the anti-federalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542570 143149519,143152910,2017-09-27 20:04:26,National Capitalism also rejects Open Borders and Egalitarianism!!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542666 143149519,143152913,2017-09-27 20:04:27,"Essential Reading Proposals: ECONOMICS Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell Wealth of Nations - Adam Smith The Turgot Collection Principles of Economics - Carl Menger The Positive Theory of Capital - Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk Principles of Economics - Alfred Marshall Social Economics - Friedrich von Wieser The Value of Money - Benjamin Anderson Risk, Uncertainty, and Profit - Frank Knight The Great Depressions - Lionel Robbins The Road to Serfdom - Friedrich Hayek Human Action - Ludwig von Mises Man, Economy, and State - Murray Rothbard Capitalism and Freedom - Milton Friedman Capitalism: the Unknown Ideal - Ayn Rand Will get to ethical/political reading later tonight",,Anonymous,,,,,1506542667 143149519,143153022,2017-09-27 20:05:29,">>143149519 NATCAP A T C A P",,Anonymous,gasdhgw34w.jpg,PbTmh+1mPkqdFXKtWAnVnw==,,,1506542729 143149519,143153023,2017-09-27 20:05:29,,,Anonymous,17991896_1723144601049019_1594277629041856654_n.png,46kGS9JO8ffunlB9kNzAJg==,US,,1506542729 143149519,143153208,2017-09-27 20:07:13,What's the difference between natcap and classical liberalism?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542833 143149519,143153237,2017-09-27 20:07:35,"How would you respond to the following image? Depending on how laissez-faire and fugg goobermend programms you want to be, there isn't much more than a difference in phrasing at work here.",,Anonymous,Ctkt_HVVMAEwrVb.jpg,1RiSlUKivXAmMnzG7OhoTg==,,,1506542855 143149519,143153293,2017-09-27 20:08:07,">>143153208 Classical Liberalism exists",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506542887 143149519,143153366,2017-09-27 20:08:44,">>143152649 You might as well start killing the poor after robots take 30% of jobs there won't be much left people can do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542924 143149519,143153401,2017-09-27 20:09:08,">>143153208 National Capitalism is a modern Philosophy that takes elements of Classical Liberalism into the modern concept of National Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506542948 143149519,143153517,2017-09-27 20:10:17,"This thread always makes /pol/ look amateur It's called mercantilism, it was horrible, deal with it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506543017 143149519,143153581,2017-09-27 20:10:54,">>143153237 National Socialism meant well but it didn't work in the end. Socialism in the United States will never be accepted by Libertarians and Conservatives",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543054 143149519,143153646,2017-09-27 20:11:29,">>143149519 Libertarian ancaps could go in Somalia or Honduras.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506543089 143149519,143153740,2017-09-27 20:12:25,">>143149519 so lemme guess... this is leftypols newest attempt to convince /pol/ to embrace communism with a dumb fucking name #417 great.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543145 143149519,143153797,2017-09-27 20:13:04,">>143153581 >national socialism >socialism Getting tired of all these 90 IQ lolbergs tbqh",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506543184 143149519,143153886,2017-09-27 20:13:49,">>143153740 All communist,marxist,socialist,progressives etc will be physically removed from society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543229 143149519,143154035,2017-09-27 20:15:30,">>143153797 You forgot your meme flag paki!!! Go back to fucking pakistan!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543330 143149519,143154038,2017-09-27 20:15:31,">>143149519 Monarchy is the ideal NatCap form of government as it perfectly balances the value of property and nationalism. Republican and Democratic governments always spiral into crony-capitalism and populist policies.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,IWdtfjd1sujYghdVgEi51Q==,,,1506543331 143149519,143154075,2017-09-27 20:15:53,">>143153886 well fuck im on board.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543353 143149519,143154159,2017-09-27 20:16:43,">>143153886 Those nations would regress to the dark ages to be subjugated by advanced nations.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506543403 143149519,143154189,2017-09-27 20:17:08,"Hello Comrades, there is no such thing as anarchic capitalism. Cheers.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543428 143149519,143154293,2017-09-27 20:18:26,">>143154038 why not just get an AI to govern us? Humans are corruptible, power is basically a drug.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543506 143149519,143154408,2017-09-27 20:19:39,">>143154038 >refutes cronyism >proposes cronyism on steroids Many alt-rights complain about the Africans and Africa and yet the systems the propose belong in Africa and at best in Feudal Western Europe.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506543579 143149519,143154422,2017-09-27 20:19:47,">>143154159 No abos allowed to post in this thread. Humans only!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543587 143149519,143154438,2017-09-27 20:19:58,">>143153740 >An ideology centered around capitalism >Somehow an attempt to convert /pol/ to communism I shiggy diggy",,Anonymous,1504733562021.png,nPDb0IVenvjAIRPrymjXTw==,,,1506543598 143149519,143154491,2017-09-27 20:20:33,"my week is full of exams ,i will contribute to it next week pls keep it alive",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506543633 143149519,143154539,2017-09-27 20:21:04,">>143154491 to the thread*",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506543664 143149519,143154673,2017-09-27 20:22:28,,,Anonymous,1498612463052.png,PFe03kzFdhs+0iI5KwhC+Q==,US,,1506543748 143149519,143154769,2017-09-27 20:23:22,">>143154422 Why the fuck are you posting then?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506543802 143149519,143154909,2017-09-27 20:24:38,">>143151652 >Thinking we care about the opinion of a corporatist authoritarian cuck",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506543878 143149519,143154912,2017-09-27 20:24:41,">>143153237 >The state decides which people are which people This is the problem. The Nazis had a concept of what is and what is not ""Aryan"". Its a completely arbitrary classification, fashioned by a board of politicians, mostly for political gains. At the same time, the nature of the state is to expand its influence. Therefore it must expand this term, ""Aryan"". Which would mean that other groups that were previously not considered white would now become ""Aryan"". There was a push to include Persians as Aryans into the Reich at the time. Even if you agreed with Hitler's definition of Aryan, there is no guarantee that the government you have now wouldn't become something else in the future. The state is typically self-serving. This is the nature of organizations cannot not be completely held responsible. Whatever groups occur through feel association are the groups that should be. I am still feeling this out, so I can't tell you how this would look like, but I can poke holes in the opposition all day.",,Anonymous,1479339398249.jpg,aWaGAiCDuM2/rIsWtLSr+Q==,US,,1506543881 143149519,143154957,2017-09-27 20:25:14,">>143154769 There are no abbos in the United States, only Native American Indians, and they are human.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506543914 143149519,143155088,2017-09-27 20:26:37,">>143154957 Thats a pretty abo comment",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506543997 143149519,143155097,2017-09-27 20:26:45,">>143154038 Anyone interested in arguments for monarchy should watch this when they have the time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYwcgQfh49k",,Anonymous,,,,,1506544005 143149519,143155165,2017-09-27 20:27:33,"Part 1: The Nation The Nation must be preserved in order to stop globalism and communism. The Nation must observe and if needed protect the free market where and when it can. The Nation must respect that Western European Men and Ideas are its foundation and core. The Nation must respect and defend the freedom of its citizens as laid out in the Bill of Rights. The Nation must always maintain a balanced budget, neither debt nor surplus is acceptable. The Nation must defend its borders from immigration, invasion or open attack. The Nation must defend and define citizenship. Natural Birth or Civil Service are the ONLY paths to citizenship in the nation. The Nation must not allow non citizens to have rights equivalent to citizens. The Nation must allow all men the right to purchase and carry firearms, with no restrictions. The Nation must not allow citizens to engage in violent crime, theft, terrorism or rape. The Nation must not engage itself in foreign wars or intervention. Only direct defense of the Nation is acceptable. source: http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506544053 143149519,143155178,2017-09-27 20:27:41,">>143154408 The ideal government seeks to work in the best interests of the people. What we are arguing is what system is better. > A. Someone trained from birth to execute what is in the best interest of the people > B. Have the majority of people select who is best for role of working in their best interests One of these systems allows an untrained person to rule, the other does not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506544061 143149519,143155192,2017-09-27 20:27:51,">>143154912 The main thing we need to focus on is the Physical Removal of leftist for now",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506544071 143149519,143155240,2017-09-27 20:28:24,"Part 2: The Citizen The Citizen is subject to taxation, however has the right to dispute the amount and/or services provided to him. The Citizen can be drafted to civil service or military action in time of war. The Citizen can vote for leadership, only the citizen has this right. Government officials and non citizens may not vote. The Citizen may defend themselves, subject to liability if proven to be in the wrong. The Citizen can trade freely for any good or service and the Nation may not interfere with said exchange unless it is a clear and direct threat to the Nation. The Citizen’s “Rights” as defined under the Bill of Rights, are to be protected by the Nation. The Citizen may print and distribute their own currency, subject to fraud and liability laws. The Citizen may request a fair trial for accused wrongdoings. The Citizen may not advocate communism, socialism or non family kin centered lifestyles without recourse. Physical removal of bad actors will be decided upon by the laws and courts of the Nation. The Citizen may have a trial before being removed, a non citizen must be removed on the spot without trial. source: http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506544104 143149519,143155247,2017-09-27 20:28:27,">>143153401 Again, what's the difference?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506544107 143149519,143155290,2017-09-27 20:28:59,"Part 3: The Market The market must be allowed to work freely, interpersonal, interstate and internationally. Supply and Demand must always be respected, for the market to function properly. Any industry that can be run privately, must be run privately. Regulation of free exchange can only be discussed in accordance with the Constitution, only when a threat to the safety of the Citizens and Nation can be objectively proven, and may only be implemented temporarily. International trade deals may only be made individually between the Nation and one other Nation, and only allowed if they benefit the Nation, it’s Citizens and the Market. No Central Bank or Official Currency can be allowed or respected by the Nation. It is the responsibility of both the Citizen and the Nation to protect, defend and observe the Market. The Market is a tool to better the lives of Citizens and the health of the Nation. The means of production must be owned by private Citizens in order to get competition and thus, efficiency from them. Competition in the Market is a virtue, creating new and better methods of production over time. The Nation and Market serve the Citizen, however the Citizen is required to put forth effort to protect and defend the Nation and the Market. source: http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1506544139 143149519,143155515,2017-09-27 20:31:13,">>143155247 Under Classical Liberalism Communist would have rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506544273 143149519,143155528,2017-09-27 20:31:25,">>143149519 >That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Individualism is why society is dying in the first place. Capitalists and their fucking ""nuclear family"" horseshit. Also, capitalism is against nations, borders, and languages. >>143150386 /thread",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506544285 143149519,143155610,2017-09-27 20:32:24,There is only one type of capitalism: that which requires a state to govern the market and a republican entity by which to operate. You can't just tap vague political terms onto the front and think you've invented something new.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506544344 143149519,143155746,2017-09-27 20:33:45,">>143155178 THIS Plus a monarch can make long-term decisions, because his rule is for life, whereas an elected politician makes short-term decisions, because the latter is dependent on his approval by the populace in order to stay in power. This doesn't mean that there wouldn't be a peaceful means of removing a monarch. Worse comes to worse, we still keep our guns.",,Anonymous,1490570849352.jpg,6qVggPYeYDYrI9A0DZ5AtA==,,,1506544425 143149519,143155841,2017-09-27 20:34:42,">>143155528 You can either be physically removed by helicopter or catapult. at your discretion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506544482 143149519,143155910,2017-09-27 20:35:17,">>143152525 My vote is for this flag",,Anonymous,,,,,1506544517 143149519,143156082,2017-09-27 20:36:57,>>143149519,,Anonymous,helicopter shot down 4.jpg,v37934+Is80M7dxncyTPpw==,,,1506544617 143149519,143156228,2017-09-27 20:38:27,">>143155178 Mostly unknown incompetant inbreds that sip tea, travel and play polo on the public purse vs governor that administers actively and interacts with the public.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506544707 143149519,143156243,2017-09-27 20:38:37,Also under National Capitalism Voting would be a privilege and not a right. Something that has to be earned. It prevents stupid people from voting,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506544717 143149519,143156376,2017-09-27 20:39:51,">>143155746 You have to ask the question of tyranny for any form of government, but in recent history, do your research and you will find that single party systems (i.e. communist regimes) have a longer lifespan and are more destructive than the reign of one man alone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506544791 143149519,143156401,2017-09-27 20:40:03,">>143156082 based",,Anonymous,23.png,IPCNwcIRx2OZsJYe3WfXqA==,,,1506544803 143149519,143156549,2017-09-27 20:41:38,,,Anonymous,19247710_1373607779374204_8591524334601606607_n.png,+frYGWAcehO87/QyJvP8gA==,US,,1506544898 143149519,143156831,2017-09-27 20:44:24,">>143151652 Dont give a sloppy fuck about the thoughts of socialists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506545064 143149519,143157013,2017-09-27 20:46:32,">>143156228 Ok while we're listing of traits of the worst monarchs do you want to list off all the worst traits of our elected officials? >easily bribed >scandalous >power-hungry >dishonest My leader living lavishly is far from discontenting me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506545192 143149519,143157024,2017-09-27 20:46:37,">>143152619 >me living in las vegas >""dating"" sjw attending UNLV >goes to earth day event >disgusted with muself for what I'm doing for pussy >bout to leave event and her >""anon come with me"" >pulled into stair well and start receiving head >too disgusted with myself to get hard >think that HHH used to walk these halls >blow out the back of her head as I shoot my load",,Anonymous,1494200106166.png,ObTE3z+Gy+twMtfQmh4XaA==,,,1506545197 143149519,143157036,2017-09-27 20:46:44,">>143152913 Good. Could use some Bastiat",,Anonymous,,,,,1506545204 143149519,143157068,2017-09-27 20:47:04,">>143156082 >>143156401",,Anonymous,1504455279022m.jpg,8CwT+ifw/HLa31gH2+Z0jQ==,US,,1506545224 143149519,143157090,2017-09-27 20:47:19,">>143149519 as long as it relegates niggers to second- and kikes to third class citizens we're fine.",,Anonymous,STARVING KIKES.gif,JnEkqxoxlzLn1YcsSGXVqw==,,,1506545239 143149519,143157094,2017-09-27 20:47:21,">>143157013 Oftentimes a regent is installed in an incompetent rulers place regardless",,Anonymous,,,,,1506545241 143149519,143157114,2017-09-27 20:47:29,">>143154438 my vote is on this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506545249 143149519,143157233,2017-09-27 20:48:43,,,Anonymous,20155945_107357223259633_3075102217348619984_n.jpg,gTGSADYsm+V2ftVtoVbCYA==,US,,1506545323 143149519,143157349,2017-09-27 20:49:53,I'm glad this meme is getting traction. I remember the first threads with the lonely OP in them.,,Anonymous,,,,,1506545393 143149519,143157497,2017-09-27 20:51:32,">>143151390 This. Strong trade and immigration barriers at the borders to preserve the national market. The means of production and corporate profits cannot be allowed to be exported and cheap labor cannot be allowed to be imported.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506545492 143149519,143157576,2017-09-27 20:52:13,">>143151758 This, just don't mention the ethnostate stuff out of the gate it'll turn off the normies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506545533 143149519,143157747,2017-09-27 20:54:00,">>143157013 I have no idea of the difference a king would make when bankers financed kings (bribery). Good luck to you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506545640 143149519,143157802,2017-09-27 20:54:25,"Besides: Irresponsible individualism =/= responsible individualism",,Anonymous,,,,,1506545665 143149519,143157947,2017-09-27 20:55:46,">>143153208 Classical liberalism embraces free trade and freedom of movement (i.e. open borders) National Capitalism does not. Free markets within the state but strong barriers to trade and immigrstion with other nations. Basically we want to end immigration and bring back the tariff",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506545746 143149519,143158042,2017-09-27 20:56:32,">>143153517 No dipshit, mercantilism dictated a angle export market for colonies. Very different. Read a book kangaroo fucker",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506545792 143149519,143158216,2017-09-27 20:58:19,">>143157747 Kings are less likely to be bound to greed since they were raised with wealth and didn't come to power inorder to obtain wealth. Greedy, power-hungry, and narcissistic people are the first people trying to obtain power. Tolkien firmly believed that the best candidate for ruler was one who didn't have an interest in being the ruler.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506545899 143149519,143158233,2017-09-27 20:58:26,">>143155165 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506545906 143149519,143158330,2017-09-27 20:59:24,">>143155240 Printing their own currency is a bit much desu",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506545964 143149519,143158368,2017-09-27 20:59:46,">>143152382 The flag of pro-white entrepreneurship",,Anonymous,,,,,1506545986 143149519,143158416,2017-09-27 21:00:20,">>143155290 Again I like it but we need a standardized currency everyone printing their own is a shitshow",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506546020 143149519,143159678,2017-09-27 21:13:49,">>143157036 You'll be happy with this then: POLITICS / LAW The Politics of Obedience - Étienne de La Boétie The Free Sea - Hugo Grotius The Rights of War and Peace - Hugo Grotius Second Treatise of Government - John Locke Common Sense - Thomas Paine The Rights of Man - Thomas Paine Democracy in America - Alexis de Tocqueville The Production of Security - Gustave de Molinari The Law - Frédéric Bastiat On Liberty - John Stuart Mill Essays on Freedom and Power - Lord Acton Instead of Dictatorship - Henry Hazlitt Origins of Totalitarianism - Hannah Arendt Liberty or Equality - Erik Ritter von Kuehnelt-Leddihn The Betrayal of the American Right - Murray Rothbard Anarchy, State, and Utopia - Robert Nozick Natural Law and Natural Rights - John Finnis Contract as Promise - Charles Fried Democracy: the God That Failed - Hans-Hermann Hoppe The Myth of the Rational Voter - Bryan Caplan The State in the Third Millennium - Hans-Adam II",,Anonymous,,,,,1506546829 143149519,143159865,2017-09-27 21:15:50,"Also, are we in agreement that monarchy is preferable to republics, democracies, etc.? If that's the case, I reckon monarcho-capitalism sounds a bit prettier (or minarchism).",,Anonymous,moncap flag crown.png,gahO/CmI9l0qYPzDppcp7g==,,,1506546950 143149519,143159955,2017-09-27 21:16:42,">>143158216 Literally raised with wealth, still got financed by bankers declared wars on each other, throne wars, and imperialism. Greed and avarice. Governors tend to be accountable to people whereas the Monarchy not so much. Freedom of speech, voting, equal opportunity or ""competition"", social mobility, infrastructure development, science advances, wealth creation, wealth distribution etc. Enacting civil participation created the greatest wealth and development.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506547002 143149519,143160655,2017-09-27 21:23:41,,,Anonymous,d53.jpg,lX0xIHpVvM5WWOOGWQmU/A==,US,,1506547421 143149519,143160764,2017-09-27 21:24:43,">>143159955 I think your crediting more to civil service than is due. Most of these improvements you are talking about are due to scientific advancement. I would say that the best benefit of civil service is the patriotism it can spark, but if the government is divided and disfunctional people are almost permanently jaded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506547483 143149519,143160994,2017-09-27 21:27:05,">>143159865 There's nothing wrong with democracies if they're homogeneous and pro-white Historical monarchies tend to be pretty multicultural, they also wage wars on each other all the time",,Anonymous,,,,,1506547625 143149519,143161115,2017-09-27 21:28:10,">>143159865 I like this flag. Personally, I'm in favor of a sort of minarchist parliamentary monarchy. Elected officials may suggest new laws and regulations, but the monarch has veto power and final say in matters of foreign policy and defense. Plus total laissez-faire capitalism, obv.",,Anonymous,1506035797211.jpg,uMtlI3XqATTtslCQ3pCw4w==,,,1506547690 143149519,143161378,2017-09-27 21:30:30,">>143161115 I designed this exact government on filteries.com and thought it was ideal as well. Would you limit suffrage at all?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506547830 143149519,143161705,2017-09-27 21:33:46,">>143159865 Fuck that constitutional republic all the way with term limits",,Anonymous,,,,,1506548026 143149519,143162418,2017-09-27 21:40:55,"If yall are interested we have a subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/National_Capitalism/",,Anonymous,,,,,1506548455 143149519,143162424,2017-09-27 21:40:57,">>143160994 Post-republican monarchies were more imperialist, so they were indeed multi-cultural, but that was merely a consequence of blind expansionism. Traditional monarchies like Liechtenstein and pre-Yugo Montenegro are pretty homogeneous. >>143161115 >legislation Any government whose laws can change is bound to fail. The laws must be based on natural principles and local tradition, and not be subject to any one person's will. >>143161705 Kings have much lower time preferences than elected officials.",,Anonymous,horticulture.jpg,PSfTxeTqok7VkzPlzOEz5g==,,,1506548457 143149519,143162742,2017-09-27 21:43:53,,,Anonymous,1473562544419.jpg,i3R0itWq0smgyC3kkPGqEw==,US,,1506548633 143149519,143163098,2017-09-27 21:47:09,">>143149519 There is no need to have a singular flag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506548829 143149519,143163465,2017-09-27 21:50:54,">>143159678 This is a great list",,Anonymous,,,,,1506549054 143149519,143163632,2017-09-27 21:52:38,">>143161378 1 vote per family. Meaning married with children. This would hopefully encourage families to stay together, and force politicians to center their platforms around the family, rather than driving a wedge between the sexes/races.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506549158 143149519,143164601,2017-09-27 22:02:21,">>143162424 Aren't those ""traditional monarchies"" purely decorative today, though? If you seek a powerful authoritarian leadership, just set up regular fascism. As an example of monarchy, you have countries like Thailand, and they're not working really well >Any government whose laws can change is bound to fail Governments with unchangeable laws fail no less often. What really matters is the basic on which the country is built: a responsible, culturally and ethnically homogeneous society ready to be the owner of their own fate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506549741 143149519,143164727,2017-09-27 22:03:31,">>143149519 >National Capitalism Okay, what kind of retarded meme ideology did you come up with this time? Was being ancrap not edgy enough for you?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506549811 143149519,143164780,2017-09-27 22:03:59,">>143149519 >national >capitalism capitalism appeals to the lowest common denominator and degrades culture. Pick one you dumb fucking faggots.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506549839 143149519,143165229,2017-09-27 22:08:35,">>143150386 >libertarian socialism",,Anonymous,1486381333173.jpg,ei/JiBx01NygVnxNxcUzFg==,,,1506550115 143149519,143165246,2017-09-27 22:08:43,">>143164780 I don't know why the meme is to sperg out on kekistani flags when fascist posters are worse in every possible way",,Anonymous,obvious_jew.jpg,0u1KJ7Cp/G/QBrZ4afg2XA==,CA,,1506550123 143149519,143165314,2017-09-27 22:09:39,">>143165246 >canada Opinion discarded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506550179 143149519,143165606,2017-09-27 22:12:35,">>143165314 Good meme rabbi",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506550355 143149519,143165736,2017-09-27 22:14:01,">>143149519 national capitalism is kinda retarded just call yourselves paleocons",,Anonymous,,,,,1506550441 143149519,143165854,2017-09-27 22:15:15,">>143164601 Yes, the democrats and socialists of the 19th centuries went on a crusade to destroy any semblance of traditional monarchy, and the finishing blows were dealt in the first world war. Hence we are left with Liechtenstein, Monaco, Andorra, and San Marino as the world's last true traditional monarchies, while non-governing monarchies such as those in England and Denmark continue to disgrace the system. Fascism has the same Hegelian basis as Marxism, so it's just as prone to catastrophic totalitarianism. There is no respect for culture nor for tradition; everything starts and ends with the state. >a responsible, culturally and ethnically homogeneous society ready to be the owner of their own fate Do you believe such a population would be prone to conflict over petty issues like alcohol and vulgarity laws? There would be no need for a legislative body. >>143164780 If the state keeps bailing out shit companies and enforcing monopolies, there's no need to set standards, so you end up with the degenerate mess that fascist economies like the US and EU have.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506550515 143149519,143165867,2017-09-27 22:15:22,">>143165606 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506550522 143149519,143165997,2017-09-27 22:16:44,">>143165867 >t. Opinion discarded is an argument",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506550604 143149519,143166114,2017-09-27 22:17:49,">>143165997 I replied to your original non argument in kind.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506550669 143149519,143166305,2017-09-27 22:19:47,">>143149519 fuck off (((((capitalists)))))",,Anonymous,29e0c853c6bb162c9e176f0738abd155.jpg,I2OGGLPADZyg3FM/mxm+7Q==,US,,1506550787 143149519,143167037,2017-09-27 22:26:36,">>143165854 I get your concept of monarchy as ""a big land lord letting others live on his land"", but as far as I know, Hoppe didn't really advocate for monarchy (this is a misinterpretation), he only used it as an argument against democracy. It seems absurd that many posters under your flag absolutize this particular system, which is VERY odd. I don't believe that a monarch stands above the people. >Do you believe such a population would be prone to conflict over petty issues like alcohol and vulgarity laws? There would be no need for a legislative body. It's always easier to reach consensus if your society has shared common values, is ready for cooperation (which is precisely a white western trait) and is not divided by the presence of foreign, alien elements, i.e. is homogeneous",,Anonymous,,,,,1506551196 143149519,143167047,2017-09-27 22:26:42,">>143165854 Pic related for those who deny the fascistic nature of the current economy. Keynes was fond of fascism and national socialism, hence it is no surprise that we have had ultra-statist economies with mixed markets dominate the west following his revolution. Paul Krugman may very well be today's Göring.",,Anonymous,Keynesianism = Fascism.jpg,jMqGQiDb5ZN3pI9MUmL3bA==,,,1506551202 143149519,143167214,2017-09-27 22:28:21,">>143166114 You will be physically removed shill",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506551301 143149519,143167503,2017-09-27 22:31:06,">>143167214 >corporatism = communism",,Anonymous,bender.jpg,gZLnom0O8B70uuj/AbG2rA==,,,1506551466 143149519,143167507,2017-09-27 22:31:08,">So you try again but your retarded system collapses but its ok because it wasn't real capitalism You guys are antifa tier brainlets.",,Anonymous,Ancaps_Jews.jpg,jb17CCXqbMRc4bEo5dZXhQ==,,,1506551468 143149519,143167943,2017-09-27 22:35:24,">>143163632 I think a fairer system is a vote proportional to how much tax you pay. Make taxes voluntary and the more tax you pay the more your vote counts.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506551724 143149519,143168014,2017-09-27 22:36:10,">>143167037 The full story is that Hoppe did not hold monarchy to be the summum bonum, but as a superior system to democracy. I'm willing to bet that a lot of the guys over at /lrg/ haven't actually read Hoppe, they've just heard his lectures and Cantwell's summaries of his arguments. A monarch doesn't necessarily stand above the people in the same way that a führer, duce, caudillo, etc. does. The monarch is merely the landlord, as you said. He very well could take full control of the economy, centrally plan it, and tax his people to hell and back, but that's not in his best interest. As Hoppe himself said: ""The king does not have an attitude 'I must loot the state as fast as possible, because what I don't loot now, I will not be able to loot in the future', because if he does not loot it as much, the value of his country will be higher and his heirs will receive something better."" >It's always easier to reach consensus if your society has shared common values That's absolutely correct. However, this means that regular elections are not necessary, because these common values should be reflected in whatever initial charter/constitution/etc. was written. I won't, however, argue against the occasional plebiscite or referendum in the event that a law(s) becomes ineffective, or something of that nature. So, democracy in emergency situations may be just fine, but rotating elected officials will allow sophists to manipulate the people and pillage the country.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506551770 143149519,143168172,2017-09-27 22:37:43,Chinese do the best capitalism,,Anonymous,1498723462242.jpg,DWfCPdnXNIK+GkwvFrCaMg==,US,,1506551863 143149519,143168239,2017-09-27 22:38:20,">>143168172 >capitalists will unironically defend this",,Anonymous,1498723537326.jpg,Gh+7SHBfZqSmTSGsn98Kzg==,US,,1506551900 143149519,143168380,2017-09-27 22:39:35,">>143168239 it's profitable",,Anonymous,1498723572392.png,CeidbwusI0dFnAojbc3k9Q==,US,,1506551975 143149519,143168469,2017-09-27 22:40:29,">>143168172 >>143168239 >>143168380 China's Keynesian, bro.",,Anonymous,download.jpg,v6NweQAW+MR7/2jjZnzywQ==,,,1506552029 143149519,143168543,2017-09-27 22:41:14,">>143168469 >it wasn't my specific version of capitalism",,Anonymous,1504643842278.png,TXhNfHIY9wkZKu3zGIuEKA==,US,,1506552074 143149519,143168691,2017-09-27 22:42:57,">>143168239 Ancaps you mean.",,Anonymous,calmly.jpg,p5K1jRFkjqSSorAjZxq7Ew==,PT,,1506552177 143149519,143168748,2017-09-27 22:43:28,">>143167507 yes, the capitalism in 1929 that hitler is talking about is EXACTLY the same as the modern ancap except for the fact that every single success curve of the nazis is dwarfed by the success curve of bitcoin",,Anonymous,,,,,1506552208 143149519,143168783,2017-09-27 22:43:50,">>143168543 >Keynesianism >Capitalism",,Anonymous,1502926675757.png,5F/0TmblsBHwE9BOAuVOyQ==,,,1506552230 143149519,143168837,2017-09-27 22:44:33,">>143149519 I assume there will something in place to discourage degeneracy, whether enforced social laws or a state religion?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506552273 143149519,143168950,2017-09-27 22:45:43,">>143152103 Definitely have to keep snak",,Anonymous,political-compass.jpg,x6KfnHpER9jIh2UjmxOm8A==,US,,1506552343 143149519,143168987,2017-09-27 22:46:03,">>143166305 soon",,Anonymous,1490954438089.gif,1kRZvJDg2wDBqhT9Q4xstg==,,,1506552363 143149519,143169067,2017-09-27 22:47:04,">>143168014 >However, this means that regular elections are not necessary, because these common values should be reflected in whatever initial charter/constitution/etc. was written Modern democracy is indeed ineffective, besides, it's too centralized. I see a good point in direct democracy, I also see a point in more decentralization/federalization/segregation because even in today's world there is clear evidence that smaller white nations are generally more self-aware and more resistant to introducing detrimental, self-destructive policies in their homeland, which is probably the only way how democracy can work",,Anonymous,,,,,1506552424 143149519,143169124,2017-09-27 22:47:34,">>143168172 Does it make anyone else sad to see what a fucking hell hole and a nightmare China is today, compared to all the golden ages they have had?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506552454 143149519,143169350,2017-09-27 22:50:12,">>143168748 >Jewish invention to replace fiat currency is successful! >muh free markets >muh one world government Wow a true brainlet in action. So you claim that the current economic system we live in is not ""true capitalism"" but you will then tell me bitcoin is a glowing success of capitalism! There is no such thing as a free market, the Jews control it completely. The current astronomic rise of bitcoin has been created by your jewish overlords. Do you really think that the rise of bitcoin is in anyway organic?",,Anonymous,images.jpg,/kihStlLJW5DAtsccpKjWg==,,,1506552612 143149519,143169430,2017-09-27 22:51:08,">>143168172 >>143168239 >>143168380 >no property rights >government can infringe on property even if it is ""private"" >can't hold government accountable",,Anonymous,1498616634433.jpg,zdyOZMCl5GxXcNQGcr8vNQ==,US,,1506552668 143149519,143169443,2017-09-27 22:51:16,">>143168837 I want an answer to my question. What will be done about degeneracy or will we just watch it get subverted again? This natcap utopia is just the US before it got jewed. What is in place to prevent future jewing, Hitler style anti-degeneracy laws?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506552676 143149519,143169444,2017-09-27 22:51:17,">>143165229 AKA the original libertarianism",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,THmwADKaaYa+kMZb/tvV0Q==,US,,1506552677 143149519,143169693,2017-09-27 22:54:05,">>143169350 >>Jewish invention to replace fiat currency is successful! Are you talking about banking cards? Most normies use them for purchases today",,Anonymous,visa.jpg,YUtLzEmkcxeezt2RrMsikQ==,,,1506552845 143149519,143169850,2017-09-27 22:55:53,">>143169444 No leftist ideology has any business calling itself a movement of liberty.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506552953 143149519,143170001,2017-09-27 22:57:36,">>143169067 Yeah, I guess direct democracy's not that bad of an idea. Hans-Adam II advocates for it, and I think Hoppe has recognized that it would work in small enough communities, but that's the key here: it has to be decentralized and it has to be for a homogeneous society. So, it seems we're in agreement here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506553056 143149519,143170046,2017-09-27 22:58:13,">>143169444 > According to Murray Rothbard, the libertarian creed emerged from the classical liberal challenges to an ""absolute central State and a king ruling by divine right on top of an older, restrictive web of feudal land monopolies and urban guild controls and restrictions"", the mercantilism of a bureaucratic warfaring state allied with privileged merchants. The object of classical liberals was individual liberty in the economy, in personal freedoms and civil liberty, separation of state and religion, and peace as an alternative to imperial aggrandizement. He cites Locke's contemporaries, the Levellers, who held similar views. Also influential were the English ""Cato's Letters"" during the early 1700s, reprinted eagerly by American colonists who already were free of European aristocracy and feudal land monopolies. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism#Age_of_Enlightenment Let me show you my helicopter commie",,Anonymous,,,,,1506553093 143149519,143170208,2017-09-27 22:59:52,">>143169430 some amount of socialism exists somewhere in the country therefore it wasn't capitalism that caused this. It was capitalism that caused this. The lack of enforcement of environmental regulations allowed the profit motive to run amok, resulting in rampant pollution",,Anonymous,china brown cloud.jpg,kxmSmCCWUiwoCWDaiujcig==,US,,1506553192 143149519,143170229,2017-09-27 23:00:07,">>143169693 Crytpocurrency is the central bank systems wet dream. All world governments under one digital currency that they control. Fractional reserve banking still utilizes fiat currency for goyim to pay off their debt. Once everything is digital you will need the ""mark"" to do business.",,Anonymous,5997376+_1151fd2e745da56fbbd675539eb2ae19.jpg,yidyN+NOxOjqmc0n24ySMg==,,,1506553207 143149519,143170235,2017-09-27 23:00:10,">Rothbard was pro-Soviet Are libertarians the biggest cucks in history?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553210 143149519,143170326,2017-09-27 23:01:02,">>143169350 When a corporation buys power it is doing exactly what you expect from a corporation. When a politician sells power they are doing the exact opposite of what you expect of a politician.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506553262 143149519,143170360,2017-09-27 23:01:23,">>143170229 >All world governments under one digital currency that they control. there are hundreds of different currencies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553283 143149519,143170436,2017-09-27 23:02:09,">>143170360 And 99.9999% trade only in bitcoin or eth.",,Anonymous,1506011899921.gif,lcteWTnvxiFvLU44u/HR3w==,,,1506553329 143149519,143170624,2017-09-27 23:04:10,">>143170436 Isn't that interesting. Just like how even though there are dozens of competing video hosting sites, Youtube gets 90% of the traffic. Or like how there's dozens of social networks, but Facebook gets 90% of the traffic. Or how theres dozens of search engines, but Google gets 90% of the traffic. It's simply the crowd behavior of human beings. The free market has a natural tendency to monopoly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553450 143149519,143170813,2017-09-27 23:06:06,">>143170624 monopolies only exist due to government enforcement though",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553566 143149519,143170851,2017-09-27 23:06:30,>>143170235,,Anonymous,20a.jpg,vFX0z+PojorUiznmb+JkIg==,,,1506553590 143149519,143170878,2017-09-27 23:06:50,">>143170813 not true",,Anonymous,Natural Monopoly.png,Fi2qZUz3lFbxd20uHBHQ3g==,US,,1506553610 143149519,143170920,2017-09-27 23:07:06,">>143170624 You obviously have no clue about crypto. All shit coins cant be bought with dollars. You need to buy them with bitcoin. Who do you think has a monopoly on all those coins?",,Anonymous,1506011168656.gif,sN771jk+IP8sja9wP10K3g==,,,1506553626 143149519,143170927,2017-09-27 23:07:15,,,Anonymous,20882108_1077346245729148_7271196712420462900_n.jpg,ysSCZ58MWe80MFmN0fGOqw==,US,,1506553635 143149519,143171020,2017-09-27 23:08:10,">>143170229 All Visa/MasterCard/American Express transactions are LITERALLY visible to the (((regulators))), and almost every normie in the Western world uses them daily. You're all under Big Brother's eye, and it's been for DECADES already. Bitcoin is a public ledger too, but it's so fucking easy to completely anonymize your transactions and detach them from your identity if you're not a brainlet, which is not really possible with plastic cards. Besides, bitcoin is not really practical for regular purchases and it can't replace regular money, so your arguments are shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1506553690 143149519,143171121,2017-09-27 23:09:05,">>143167047 Keynesianism is to Fascism what Social Democracy is to Socialism, kind of. It's based on kind of the same principles but it results in the worst kind of mixed system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553745 143149519,143171229,2017-09-27 23:10:20,">>143170851 >After the end of World War I, Lenin and his fellow Bolsheviks adopted the theory of “peaceful coexistence” as the basic foreign policy for a Communist State. The idea was this: as the first successful Communist movement, Soviet Russia would serve as a beacon for and supporter of other Communist parties throughout the world. But the Soviet State qua State would devote itself to peaceful relations with all other countries, and would not attempt to export communism through inter-State warfare. The idea here was not just to follow Marxist-Leninist theory, but was the highly practical course of holding the survival of the existing Communist State as the foremost goal of foreign policy: that is, never to endanger the Soviet State by courting inter-State warfare. Other countries would be expected to become Communist by their own internal processes. Thus, fortuitously, from a mixture of theoretical and practical grounds of their own, the Soviets arrived early at what libertarians consider to be the only proper and principled foreign policy. As time went on, furthermore, this policy was reinforced by a “conservatism” that comes upon all movements after they have acquired and retained power for any length of time, in which the interests of keeping power over one’s nation-state begins to take more and more precedence over the initial ideal of world revolution. This increasing conservatism under Stalin and his successors strengthened and reinforced the nonaggressive, “peaceful coexistence” policy. - Rothbard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553820 143149519,143171274,2017-09-27 23:10:47,">>143171020 >What is bitcoin fork >What is off chain transactions >What is all crypto becoming illegal tender except for the jew coin >What is China doing it already",,Anonymous,1506011950812.jpg,DDf24777xP90ib737CIwug==,,,1506553847 143149519,143171357,2017-09-27 23:11:30,">>143170851 So unprepared was Stalin for the assault, so trusting was he in the rationality of the German-Russian accord for peace in Eastern Europe, that he had allowed the Russian army to fall into disrepair. So unwarlike was Stalin, in fact, that Germany was almost able to conquer Russia in the face of enormous odds. (P. 292.) - Rothbard Russia, therefore, governed Eastern Europe as military occupier after winning a war launched against her. Russia’s initial goal was not to communize Eastern Europe on the backs of the Soviet army. Her goal was to gain assurances that Eastern Europe would not be the broad highway for an assault on Russia, as it had been three times in half a century—the last time in a war in which over twenty million Russians had been slaughtered. In short, Russia wanted countries on her border which would not be anti-Communist in a military sense, and which would not be used as a springboard for another invasion. Political conditions in Eastern Europe were such that only in more modernized Finland did non-Communist politicians exist whom Russia could trust to pursue a peaceful line in foreign affairs. And in Finland, this situation was the work of one far-seeing statesman, the agrarian leader Julio Paasikivi. It was because Finland, then and since, has firmly followed the “Paasikivi line” that Russia was willing to pull its troops out of Finland and not to insist on the communization of that country—even though it had fought two wars with Finland in the previous six years. - Rothbard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553890 143149519,143171405,2017-09-27 23:12:01,">>143170878 This is good point. A proper free market needs protection against monopolies, trusts, and other forms of market dominance/collusion. Look at what the Sherman antitrust act did for our economy it the late 1800s",,Anonymous,,,,,1506553921 143149519,143171413,2017-09-27 23:12:04,"… empirically, taking the twentieth century as a whole, the single most warlike, most interventionist, most imperialist government has been the United States. (P. 277.) If it is understood and expected, then, that the United States will try to impose its will on every crisis everywhere in the world, then this is clear indication that America is the great interventionary and imperial power. The one place where the United States does not now attempt to work its will is the Soviet Union and the Communist countries … - Rothbard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506553924 143149519,143171549,2017-09-27 23:13:25,"Rothbard loved Che Guevara. https://mises.org/library/ernesto-che-guevara-rip",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554005 143149519,143171554,2017-09-27 23:13:29,">>143171229 >>143171357 >supporting a foriegn policy that doesn't consist of invading and screwing with other countries every few years is pro-soviet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554009 143149519,143171657,2017-09-27 23:14:30,">>143168172 >>143168239 Modern China is basically all the worst elements of Capitalism, Communism, and Fascism without any of the good parts.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554070 143149519,143171750,2017-09-27 23:15:27,">>143171229 >>143171357 >>143171413 you know, a non-redpilled person might be extremely confused about what is going on here",,Anonymous,1504610088524.jpg,SKmoQKiJS+HTzScTONaBog==,US,,1506554127 143149519,143171790,2017-09-27 23:15:58,">>143171554 Rothbard is literally apologizing for the Soviet Union and lionizing people like Che Guevara. Libertarianism is a cuck ideology.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554158 143149519,143171816,2017-09-27 23:16:23,">>143171229 That seems more like he's recognizing the successful tactics of historical leftists. This also seems to be from the period when he was allied with the left against the interventionist right of the mid-60s, which he later regretted (as anyone would have).",,Anonymous,,,,,1506554183 143149519,143171846,2017-09-27 23:16:43,">>143169850 >>143170046 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIfKrI6Q_W8",,Anonymous,the experts agree.png,w4yrJ+3WsKCkyz2bOmZ3Wg==,US,,1506554203 143149519,143171894,2017-09-27 23:17:10,">>143171657 The pollution was ""worth it"" in the sense that they're lifting tons of people out of poverty while they do it This is just a demonstration of the kind of thing that we need regulations to protect against once we rise to a standard of living that we can afford to do so",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554230 143149519,143171932,2017-09-27 23:17:35,">>143171790 he supports the soviets' policy of non-intervention/defending its self now get out statist bootlicker cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554255 143149519,143172020,2017-09-27 23:18:24,">>143171846 >appealing to authority",,Anonymous,70e.jpg,vX8ZVHsoK8GmJQ9zMYkenA==,,,1506554304 143149519,143172094,2017-09-27 23:19:03,">>143171274 >>What is bitcoin fork Simply a shitcoin that uses the existing bitcoin blockchain >>What is off chain transactions Where is it really implemented? Doesn't seem like a widespread feature >>What is all crypto becoming illegal tender except for the jew coin That's the problem with (((regulators))) >>What is China doing it already No wonder",,Anonymous,,,,,1506554343 143149519,143172246,2017-09-27 23:20:48,">>143171932 >annexing Eastern Europe is ""defending itself"" Libertarians are starting to show their true colors",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554448 143149519,143172339,2017-09-27 23:21:44,">>143171932 >commie sympathizers calling other people statist bootlickers",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554504 143149519,143172454,2017-09-27 23:23:02,">>143172246 >>143172339 they wanted a buffer zone so if another war happened russia wouldn't get totally wrecked like last time",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554582 143149519,143172583,2017-09-27 23:24:26,">>143149519 >national capitalism Are you perhaps trying to say, nationalism? Capitalism is internationalist by definition. Since capitalism can't stop people from fucking over the nation, because of extensive private property rights, it can't deny internationalism (without aggressing on private property) and therefore isn't nationalistic.",,Anonymous,1305781113315.jpg,fWHm6cVQTFmdXpVL5UUS1g==,FI,,1506554666 143149519,143172594,2017-09-27 23:24:31,">>143172094 The reason bitcoin forked was off chain transactions. They are not widespread but the aim is make it so. The reality is the current crypto fad is a test run by the central banks. Crypto gives them an easy way to move large amounts of money they stole from the goyim without anyone noticing. Once their planning is complete, they will implement a single coin and get rid of the rest. This will replace all fiat currencies world wide and usher in the age of the one world government. This can already be seen with China selling off all their bitcoin mining equipment and moving to ban ICOs. My guess is that within a year there is a new ""china coin"". If you trade coins look at where the volume of trading comes from for bitcoin. Most is coming from China, once they pull out the market will crash. This is why capitalism always fails, if you are only looking out for your individual self interest you will fall for the jews traps every time.",,Anonymous,1506278795924.jpg,oeUTbxJCKpcS04hYutQLlA==,,,1506554671 143149519,143172689,2017-09-27 23:25:36,">>143169350 Bitcoin went soaring because of the ever rising North Korea tensions, bitcoin is now treated as a haven asset much like gold is with investors/traders. Now that people have gotten used to the chest beating of the gook dictator, it lost about 20% of its value in from its high in two weeks, it has rebounded however after its plunge though. Blaming the jews for the rise of bitcoin is absolutely retarded.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506554736 143149519,143172781,2017-09-27 23:26:33,"Libertarians will defend this: >Murray Rothbard had defective judgment. It pains even to recall it, but in 1959 when Khrushchev arrived in New York, with much of America stunned by the visit of the butcher of Budapest-the Soviet protege of Stalin who was threatening a world war over Berlin Rothbard physically applauded Khrushchev in his limousine as it passed by on the street.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554793 143149519,143172903,2017-09-27 23:27:45,">>143172454 Ask Eastern Europeans if Soviet annexation was an act of defense. Libertarian's ability to play mental gymnastics is incredible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506554865 143149519,143172931,2017-09-27 23:28:00,">>143172689 >Oy vey goyim the jews definitely haven't taken over the leadership rolls of bitcoin development! >It's just the mean ole North Koreans who have been doing the same thing for more than a decade! If you knew anything about investing you would see that bitcoin is going through a classic pump and dump. I hope you have your resume dusted off you are gonna need it bud.",,Anonymous,6ee.jpg,Oa1ZPmLSISrVp9yXKg4b4A==,,,1506554880 143149519,143172987,2017-09-27 23:28:37,">>143172583 So do you believe that when people are permitted to defend their property, they will not voluntarily associate with those who share their values?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506554917 143149519,143173236,2017-09-27 23:31:07,">Capitalism ISHYGDDT",,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,aqCb+dz8PFQ3nG6+5RcFzQ==,,,1506555067 143149519,143173248,2017-09-27 23:31:15,">>143172987 What about the right of Eastern Europeans to defend their property and disassociate with people who don't share their values? You libertarians support the Soviet annexation of Eastern Europe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506555075 143149519,143173463,2017-09-27 23:33:34,,,Anonymous,1506480604532.png,UERBuc307xsCQC6o8fr/Pg==,US,,1506555214 143149519,143173510,2017-09-27 23:34:04,">>143172594 >The reality is the current crypto fad is a test run by the central banks. What's the fucking point? They already own Visa/MasterCard/etc., they see all of your transactions, and there's hardly any modern Westerner not using a banking card these days. Just fucking look around. With crypto, you have various means to purchase your coins anonymously, and then it becomes close to impossible to track you. What's the point? Finally, you have shit like Monero which makes you invincible on a totally different level. >Once their planning is complete, they will implement a single coin and get rid of the rest You can't get rid of the rest, it's technically impossible. And those shitcoins don't pose any threat anyway. >This will replace all fiat currencies world wide and usher in the age of the one world government. There is simply NO FUCKING RATIONALE in doing that because it's been already done. They already own and see everything. I doubt that they're so much stupid. Everything is ALREADY monitored and centralized, as long as you use your goddamn Visa, you're on their radar. Crypto only makes it harder for them to track you. >This is why capitalism always fails LMAO, bring up some SOUND arguments next time, it must not be so hard, this shit you spewed out is purely autistic",,Anonymous,,,,,1506555244 143149519,143173719,2017-09-27 23:36:21,">>143172987 They most certainly will, mostly. The problem is that without a state, there is no political organ to limit internationalism. Assume, for example, a hostile neighboring country specifically undermining the industry of a state by offering lower-than-market prices for trade. Yea mo' money for individuals, so they'll go for it, but the other people of the nation miss out.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506555381 143149519,143173723,2017-09-27 23:36:25,">>143172931 Enlighten me then, do you have any proof? You know I'm perfectly ok with being proven wrong. Just with the whole narrative on /pol/ it always being the jews seems a bit far fetched. If it's pump and dump, it's pump and dump. But give me substance.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506555385 143149519,143173797,2017-09-27 23:37:03,">>143173510 >What is hard currency Because I can still go to the store and buy eggs and milk with dollars. Once there is no dollars then how will I feed my family if the government shuts off my digital dollars for being a bad goy? >You can't get rid of the rest For sure if tomorrow the US said its illegal to possess shit coins I'm sure that market would continue to flourish >Rationale Already explained this. Complete control over the goyim. >Ancap brainlet Explain to me how I'm wrong? Why do you think we live in a jewish prison state?",,Anonymous,e44b396fba997c2c1e29bdbe99a4cb38fec7383a56771112a6392d35b693e578.jpg,W98aZK2XSiXeh3nTgvuukg==,,,1506555423 143149519,143174379,2017-09-27 23:43:43,">>143170208 >environmental regulations work haha, ok. If no one has ownership of a property, they don't care about its upkeep. If nobody can maintain the value of their property, they don't own it. Chinese citizens can't go to the government and tell them that this smog is infringing on their property (which it clearly is). The Chink gov can just tell them to fuck off, because they have their favored companies and whatever they say goes. The gov literally just makes up rules as they go. There is no set of rules the Chinese people can rely on. They can never plan ahead. This is clear case of the Tragedy of the Commons. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons",,Anonymous,1479339251206.jpg,Rfrh7ewlEOZRhgaf4x7W7A==,US,,1506555823 143149519,143174482,2017-09-27 23:44:53,">>143173723 there is a bit of speculation in the bitcoin markets these days, probably it's price is significantly overvalued. The value of Bitcoin is the value of all the transactions that would not have taken place without Bitcoin's existence. Which is significant to be honest",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506555893 143149519,143174558,2017-09-27 23:45:41,">>143173719 So cheap knock-off products are a threat to the nation? Remember, any firm has to satisfy its customers to stay in business, and must maintain high standards to do so (or get subsidies, but that's an issue of fascism, not capitalism). Firms can't just lower prices on a whim; they either have to lower production (diminishing the supply and lowering profits), or lower standards/costs (diminishing the demand and lowering profits).",,Anonymous,,,,,1506555941 143149519,143174651,2017-09-27 23:46:42,">>143174379 privatize the rivers? privatize the air? clearly these are things that are collectively owned",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506556002 143149519,143174658,2017-09-27 23:46:49,,,Anonymous,1496343088527.jpg,WzxOo1i9qyBbnLUcrz39jQ==,US,,1506556009 143149519,143174722,2017-09-27 23:47:28,">>143173797 >Because I can still go to the store and buy eggs and milk with dollars They will simply push for more bank card adoption if they want you to stop using cash. You must be a brainlet if you believe that the blockchain was designed as an alternative to cash, it was an alternative to bank cards in the first place, and it's not really practical in its current state and much less transparent than bank cards to be adopted by (((big guys))). You make no fucking sense. Don't get me wrong, (((they))) MIGHT be willing to get rid of cash, but why would they want to push not-so-traceable crypto out of all things, then, when you already have your Visa and MasterCard which is the defacto standard?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506556048 143149519,143174755,2017-09-27 23:47:54,">>143174658 If you don't think communist have rights then why do you people defend the Soviet Union and their annexation of eastern Europe?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506556074 143149519,143174776,2017-09-27 23:48:07,">>143173723 >Requests to be spoon fed >Not on reddit",,Anonymous,ancap_spoonfed.jpg,/lyF8zaoBqB57CRQFZhuEQ==,,,1506556087 143149519,143174879,2017-09-27 23:49:27,"A couple questions >how is this different from libertarian fascism and anarcho-fascism? >how is this different from anarcho-capitalism? >does ""national"" mean ethno-national or civic national? >all nations start out as ""ethnostates"" with shared values, but degenerate over time until they cease to exist or are reborn and reinvigorated with new unifying values and identity. You say that ""unity among those of that identity is critical"", but how do you stop that identity and those values from degenerating if you believe in free association, a totally free market, and individualism, things which by their very definition break down unity? Those things are fine concepts, but it seems following them totally leads to an unsustainable social order, meaning that the ideology is not self-perpetuating and therefore doomed. >do businesses or individuals have any social obligation to the nation? any economic obligation? >is the state restricting the movement of people into the nation a violation of the free market? Why or why not? If it is, should it be permitted anyway? >if voluntary association is the goal, how do you justify the physical removal of leftists? They may not be human, but if all or most of a community was leftist, I don't see how you could say that it was even your property to physically remove them from. >if the goal is an ethnostate, should minorities be peacefully relocated, forcefully relocated, ""physically removed"" from existence, or be allowed to stay so long as they recognized the supremacy of the principle ethnicity? I'm not asking these in order to ""tear down"" this ideology. I sincerely want ethno-nationalism and libertarianism to be able to work together, but currently I just don't think it can work out neatly. The best I'm hoping for currently is some sort of fascism that aims to be as free as possible while still being stable and self-sustaining, keeping libertarian and free market principles when able but willing to let them go if needed.",,Anonymous,1490134094049.jpg,hZXiOAaJp32iAF/lr1yO9g==,US,,1506556167 143149519,143174929,2017-09-27 23:50:03,">>143174722 You must be a brainlet if you dont think this initial permutation of crypto is a stepping stone to the end goal. They won't get rid of your visa, they will just make you pay it off in ""jewcoin"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1506556203 143149519,143174950,2017-09-27 23:50:21,">>143169067 We should divide our nations into mega-city sized cantons that all represent themselves at the federal level. A parliament of mayors.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506556221 143149519,143175095,2017-09-27 23:52:08,">>143174558 >So cheap knock-off products are a threat to the nation? No one said anything about cheap or knock-off products. A neighboring, more centrally coordinated nation might be willing to forgo some profit to undermine another on the long run. By making it dependent on international deals for example. Trade wars have existed pretty much always.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1506556328 143149519,143175467,2017-09-27 23:56:57,">>143174651 >clearly these are things that are collectively owned clearly Nobody cares about these things because they assume someone else owns them, and someone else will take responsibility for it. And they rely on the efficiency of bureaucracy to solve their problems. If everyone owns something, no one owns it. The whole point of ownership is that it's exclusive. Collective ownership is literally a contraction.",,Anonymous,1470086946412.jpg,90smfSZfm8pArsJKopDLJA==,US,,1506556617 143149519,143175491,2017-09-27 23:57:15,">>143174929 >crypto will eventually evolve into PayPal So why not push PayPal from the get-go? You still haven't answered what's the advantage of crypto over bank cards for (((them))) when bank cards are completely in their control, while crypto is not?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506556635 143149519,143176249,2017-09-28 00:06:15,">>143175491 The idea isn't about the payment its about the currency. Right now there are two problems for the jews 1) All countries have difference currencies. This is partially alleviated by making every use the petro dollar which is obviously controlled by the Fed. But you notice there are bad goy countries like Libya, Syria and Iran who don't want to play by the Rothschild's rules and they don't like that. These countries tend to end up on the axis of evil list if you haven't noticed. 2) You can still have value in hard currency. When I have dollars I don't need to use a credit card. Even though you keep talking about privacy I don't think you get it. No matter what I say that upsets the government, they can't just turn my dollar bills off. I can still function and exist in society. Once the new digital currency is created there will be no more real money. Everything will be based off some app that you need to use to function. If you are an enemy of the state they can simply just turn off your money. Or they can turn off your families money if they help you. Even though it seems like they have full control they don't because the dollar actual has intrinsic value that I can use to trade for goods at the local level which is outside of jewish control. The current crop of crypto was created so the jews could launder money easily and to get people to accept that electrons that are traded online have actual value. As you can see they have been very successful.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506557175 143149519,143176669,2017-09-28 00:11:07,">>143175467 >Collective ownership is literally a contraction. I hope you don't own any stocks anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506557467 143149519,143177195,2017-09-28 00:16:32,">>143176249 Well, your premise is that they will find away to take away all the cash from you.. And if they indeed do that, they can easily make you use the bank card instead. On a technical level, the dollar balance on your credit card is not too different from a ""new digital currency"". Even if they invent a new currency, it can be used in the same way as your credit card. So the whole crypto boogieman doesn't make sense, it's completely redundant. If they want you to switch from cash, they will force you to use the bank card. Something similar is already in force in Sweden. The block chain technology is absolutely unnecessary here. It only makes things worse for them because it allows for the existence of the black market (and it WILL inevitably emerge). A centralized, totalitarian technology would be some form of government-enforced PayPal linked to your identity. Definitely not the tool of black markets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506557792 143149519,143177905,2017-09-28 00:25:02,">>143177195 You are missing point number one. This is a multifaceted issue I'm not so sure you're focused on paypal. If you are trying to create a one world government you will need a one world currency. Right now the dollar bills value is based off of confidence in the economy. If you haven't been paying attention the fed said they are going to stop buying debt next month and raising interest rates. What do you think the purpose of BRICS is? Why is china going to start trading oil in gold back yuan's? It seems pretty clear there is a large global shift that will happen in the next 5 years.",,Anonymous,federal-reserve-1913-2011-final1.png,L/nRdLbttYJcvaLx5FvfWQ==,,,1506558302 143149519,143178366,2017-09-28 00:30:42,">>143176669 *contradiction* sorry about that And no, stocks are not collective ownership. Not like how you imagine them, as an entirely and evenly spread ownership. At the end of the day, the company makes the final say. With all of the consequences that may result, for better or for worst. There are, of course, some laws that force companies to capitulate to stock holders. These are created by the state of course.",,Anonymous,1479338789016.jpg,wiWqQsGj3IuajvDLPZS9aw==,US,,1506558642 143149519,143178409,2017-09-28 00:31:16,">>143177905 Why wouldn't they want to simply make the dollar the one world currency? Taking steps like they did in Ecuador: ""The National Assembly of Ecuador banned bitcoins including other decentralized digital/crypto currencies, due to the establishment of a new state-run electronic money system. Ecuador's new project would be controlled by the government and tied directly to the local currency—the dollar. Users will be able to pay for select services and send money between individuals. This was slated to begin in mid-February 2015. ""Electronic money is designed to operate and support the monetary scheme of dollarization,"" economist Diego Martinez, a delegate of the President of the Republic to the Board of Regulation and Monetary and Financial Policy"" Besides, they can simply invent a different currency akin to Euro and enforce it everywhere. Crypto stuff is so much redundant, for the reasons mentioned above as well as its impracticability..",,Anonymous,,,,,1506558676 143149519,143179083,2017-09-28 00:40:16,">>143178409 Because in order to make a one world government the US must fall. Do you think its a coincidence they have been flooding the country with turd world immigrants that possess a 70 IQ for 50 years while also devaluing our buying power by printing fake money and destroying our people with cultural marxism? This is destabilizing the worlds ""super power"". Once the US falls the rest of the world will too.",,Anonymous,1506376719832.png,TqS6dttUbSDSggHpKSpVqA==,,,1506559216 143149519,143180307,2017-09-28 00:56:57,">>143157024 Fucking UNLV is the god damn worst dude. I couldn't stand the amount of leftist bullshit I was exposed to for every non-stem related class.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506560217 143149519,143181455,2017-09-28 01:12:45,,,Anonymous,tempImageForSave.jpg,vfg2qhoviNfwb0ZeyoQqvg==,CA,,1506561165 143149519,143182529,2017-09-28 01:27:53,">>143159865 Uhh…",,Anonymous,IMG_2486.jpg,9OY8CXKcyXen4uy7qV5fFA==,CA,,1506562073 143149519,143182816,2017-09-28 01:31:59,">Libertarians aren't even denying being pro-Soviet anymore Libertarian cucks don't have the balls to physically remove leftist denegerates",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506562319 143149519,143184623,2017-09-28 01:57:10,">>143154038 what stops royalty/aristocracy from seizing one's legally owned property?",,Flagman,,,US,,1506563830 143149519,143184697,2017-09-28 01:58:16,">>143155165 Women don't have the right to bare arms too? it is the great equalizer between woman and communist rapist scum",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506563896 143295637,143295637,2017-09-29 00:36:59,"Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator. With that said let's get this ball rolling. Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General:Gracias MI General!!,Anonymous,1490487453730.jpg,F+yPMfvrzpamVwwEeW6Fww==,US,,1506645419 143613843,143613843,2017-10-01 20:19:21,"1776 and 1488. A return to true America. >Libertarianism without the open borders. >Conservatism without the cucking. >National Socialism without the dictatorship. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8 What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of profits for the international cliques. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General,Anonymous,Whites_Unite3.png,i5KK9Ehb392RKRYa/wtxBg==,US,,1506889161 143613843,143613912,2017-10-01 20:20:09,">>143613843 just wait for the /nsg/ thread, m8",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1506889209 143613843,143613960,2017-10-01 20:20:45,">But Capitalism is about profits, Nationalism is about Nation, those things can’t go together right? National Capitalism is about profits for the nation. POLITICAL POSITION https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ (Ignore 'civic nationalism') A good briefing that fails to mention race. Nations cannot be multiracial. >What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Naturalization Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been fixed. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. Shut borders, increase birthrate, problem solved nonviolently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE >Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal.",,Anonymous,vintage-double-american-flags-eagle1.jpg,5o3WmGjoWoGbB9ooubf5ig==,US,,1506889245 143613843,143614039,2017-10-01 20:21:41,">But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and creating work for all citizens regardless of demand purely to increase productivity. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm >What about Aesthetics? The American flag and our great Aesthetic must be reclaimed from marxist subversion. The United States was not created to be a nation of multicultural faggotry, it was built to be a nation of White Christians, and if you fly the flag you must support those things. Retaking the American flag forces people to consider our ideas, rather than our imagery, and will place everyone who flies the flag under suspicion of supporting our point of view. Every soccer mom and veteran that flies the flag will be considered one of us, and soon enough they will be. Video Information: Conceived in White Nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE This link mentions ‘civic nationalism’ a single time, just ignore it because the rest is good. http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ Original NSDAP economic plan, read this and compare it to the modern definition of ‘socialism’. http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm Hispanic Birthrate Decline: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html Discord: BTJ4xx",,Anonymous,as17-134-20387.jpg,N6xFZLASWeF7Om+EtPxLrQ==,US,,1506889301 143613843,143614200,2017-10-01 20:23:26,"Your ""1776 America"" had open borders. The modern American quota system is a product of the Progressive Era. How committed are you to ""true America"" (whatever that means)?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506889406 143613843,143614503,2017-10-01 20:26:51,">>143614200 Piss off faggot, America was not Open Borders and neither is AnCapistan. Open borders is an assault of private property",,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1506889611 143613843,143614572,2017-10-01 20:27:32,,,Anonymous,1503117027821.jpg,pmYmqhbg/0KEE4U76fmCRQ==,,,1506889652 143613843,143614632,2017-10-01 20:28:11,,,Anonymous,1506810490632.jpg,IZH5oh46vH/LkvmhKwEkPw==,,,1506889691 143613843,143614665,2017-10-01 20:28:37,Nat ca is fucking jewish bullshit.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506889717 143613843,143614689,2017-10-01 20:28:58,Why are all leafs and memeflags such fucking faggots?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506889738 143613843,143614834,2017-10-01 20:30:38,">>143614689 Because they're not superior American Nationalist Capitalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506889838 143613843,143614880,2017-10-01 20:31:09,,,Anonymous,1506637772069.png,8s57k/chN42yWmala7J+uA==,US,,1506889869 143613843,143614913,2017-10-01 20:31:26,TL;DR version: National Capitalism isn't capitalism at all.,,Anonymous,,,,,1506889886 143613843,143614915,2017-10-01 20:31:28,,,Anonymous,1502422521251.jpg,L4ywrCFrxjHMNSDOuqcMeg==,US,,1506889888 143613843,143615044,2017-10-01 20:32:52,">>143613912 >/nsg/ That thread belongs on /leftypol/",,Anonymous,1505451341928.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,,,1506889972 143613843,143615060,2017-10-01 20:33:08,">>143614200 Only it didn't. At all. Naturalization Act of 1790: ...any alien, being a free white person, who shall have resided within the limits and under the Jurisdiction of the United States for the term of two years, may be admitted to become a citizen thereof... Watch the video and educate yourself, you anti-American communist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE",,Anonymous,"71IBZGP-GyL._AC_UL320_SR270,320_.jpg",DimCenk4mWZlBrxtO2HTFQ==,US,,1506889988 143613843,143615136,2017-10-01 20:34:06,">>143614913 Murray Rothbard was pro-nation, Thomas Jefferson was pro-nation. Its merely a trend of our times for so called ""libertarians"" to be cosmopolitan egalitarian fags like you.",,Anonymous,Jefferson.png,ZHBM0SNwHtYmZMJt66Ug5w==,US,,1506890046 143613843,143615180,2017-10-01 20:34:28,">>143615060 Are you playing stupid or do you really not know the difference between naturalization and immigration?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506890068 143613843,143615298,2017-10-01 20:35:46,">>143614200 >>143614665 Hey rabbi, whatcha doin?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506890146 143613843,143615959,2017-10-01 20:41:59,What about Dixie? Do we get love here too?,,Anonymous,1486775496029.png,1zksC+DiOZCzK0movLFyoQ==,,,1506890519 143613843,143616177,2017-10-01 20:44:15,">>143613843 >National Socialism without the dictatorship. >Socialism >Capitalism >It's alright because the ""State"" will be ""Capitalist"" This is Marxist level retardation, desu. Get off your Platonic mental circle-jerk and work within reality, idiot.",,Anonymous,1504458330943.jpg,wEM7sSQPLTRkKM5OFgPpLw==,US,,1506890655 143613843,143616205,2017-10-01 20:44:27,"Is a ""National Capitalist"" country still interventionist?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506890667 143613843,143616299,2017-10-01 20:45:33,">>143616205 No, we're not war mongerers that want to serve isreal and fight kike wars for them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506890733 143613843,143616376,2017-10-01 20:46:20,">>143615136 Strange that you would associate yourself with Rothbard, an anarchist, and Jefferson, whose party was anti-tariff.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506890780 143613843,143616483,2017-10-01 20:47:27,">>143616299 How does a capitalist country continue to exist with the falling rate of profit without expanding it's markets?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506890847 143613843,143616628,2017-10-01 20:48:57,">>143616376 I agree with their postions on tariffs. >>143616483 ""expanding markets"" doesn't have to be done by seizing other nations assests. thats not what I'm about.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506890937 143613843,143616652,2017-10-01 20:49:16,">>143615180 >spout vague bullshit about how early America had 'open borders' >provide documentation proving that you had to be White to be naturalized, directly against the modern idea of 'open borders' >lol better call him an idiot. >>143615959 Yeah bud. The civil war was a terrible thing, but now it is over and done with. You can recognize the stars and bars, it is a flag and a fight worth remembering and learning from.",,Anonymous,1506831394538.png,m4ilrCsG0u3gtkvX3Z3lBQ==,US,,1506890956 143613843,143616762,2017-10-01 20:50:36,">>143613843 Kys",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1506891036 143613843,143616821,2017-10-01 20:51:24,">>143613843 Bump. I like this idea.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891084 143613843,143616840,2017-10-01 20:51:39,">>143616652 Would you accept allowing foreigners to come into America freely while denying them naturalization? Are you saying that you are against naturalization of non-whites but not the immigration of non-whites?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891099 143613843,143616932,2017-10-01 20:52:38,">>143616628 The ""National Capitalist"" retard who made this thread doesn't agree with you on tariffs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891158 143613843,143616990,2017-10-01 20:53:19,">>143616483 A capitalist nation can increase profits by promoting Christian ideals and the nuclear family. Because GPD is directly tied to population growth. No need to sieze others assets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891199 143613843,143617081,2017-10-01 20:54:18,">>143616932 Thats fine. we'll butt heads on the issue for sure. I just hope we can come to a consensus on the best policy for the country we so love.",,Anonymous,1060x600-24d48f347a7b2d274dc4d6b59980d8f5.jpg,X9aLgJvnQVYll7ZA03fPqA==,,,1506891258 143613843,143617131,2017-10-01 20:54:51,">>143617081 kek ""butt heads""",,Anonymous,1503968197241.jpg,MVXV4zdG+GqYxzqcS0g/Bw==,,,1506891291 143613843,143617266,2017-10-01 20:56:19,">>143616932 Agreed. Tarrifs are a band aid for the real problem. That problem being regulations. If we reduced regulation price of production would fall thus bringing cheaper product to the consumer. We'll never be China cheap because they have forced labor but most of there product is shit and the consumer is willing to pay a little more for quality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891379 143613843,143617278,2017-10-01 20:56:29,">>143617081 Why do you love a country that robs you half your income and threatens you with prison if you exercise your individual liberty?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891389 143613843,143617288,2017-10-01 20:56:38,">>143616990 High standards of living are correlated with lower population growth. See the first world vs the third world.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891398 143613843,143617365,2017-10-01 20:57:31,"This is based as fuck. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING KILL COMMUNISTS",,Anonymous,1340553757052.jpg,32YpOOB+3dYsxGY3bkuGzQ==,,,1506891451 143613843,143617419,2017-10-01 20:58:07,">>143616840 >allowing foreigners to come into America freely while denying them naturalization? So allowing them to come in for vacations and business? Sure. They can't stay permanently.",,Anonymous,1503103950955.jpg,WL3hWmdZPx0ndftSIOPjnw==,US,,1506891487 143613843,143617444,2017-10-01 20:58:32,">>143617081 >National Capitalists claim to be libertarian >Posts image of NASA as a symbol of America's greatness",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891512 143613843,143617492,2017-10-01 20:58:59,"What's the difference between Nazi Germany and ""National Capitalism""?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891539 143613843,143617498,2017-10-01 20:59:05,">>143617444 You can still have a tiny amount of government programs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891545 143613843,143617543,2017-10-01 20:59:39,">>143617492 National Capitalism actually increases living standards for people and increases economic production.",,Anonymous,1358290294531.png,AmVc5UDOxhvcAqP9VkDnIg==,,,1506891579 143613843,143617548,2017-10-01 20:59:42,">>143617419 So you don't know what naturalization means. Naturalization refers to the citizenship process, not immigration and residency.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891582 143613843,143617576,2017-10-01 20:59:58,">>143613843 how are you with israel?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506891598 143613843,143617594,2017-10-01 21:00:09,"Daily reminder the first country to eliminate their central bank and allow free market banking will have the highest living standards on earth within 5 years. Massive high paying service sector jobs with dominate this country's economy to consume the goods the rest of the world has to produce for it. The workweek would shrink to 2-3 days a week and people would retire much earlier. This will also lead to more jobs becoming available. Everyone would have high saving rates. Houses would be inexpensive. Debt would be strongly discouraged economically. Massive automation would take place as the cost of capital goods would be extremely cheap. This will lead to massive levels of technological innovation. It would be extremely easy for the average person to start a business due to the cheap cost of capital goods. Daily reminder actual free markets have prices falling all the time instead is going up. Daily reminder America never had a system of free market banking for most of it's history. There were only patches of American history with free market banking. The panics that happened during the 1800s were due to government intervention in the banking sector. Sweden had the longest most successful period of free banking and that's what made them really rich. Daily reminder the longest period of (relatively)free banking in America coincided with the INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION where wages rose and prices fell. Daily reminder central banks are the very reason the economy is a pile of shit and our generation is so fucked. Basically what I'm saying is if we had a free market, the entire fucking country would be disneyland or universal studios and people would barely have to work. Why would you NOT support this unless you were a shill that hated white people?",,Anonymous,397503_320171804787323_1926406094_n.jpg,q0RHWysukVlZQ3SX8aYP9g==,,,1506891609 143613843,143617617,2017-10-01 21:00:25,">>143617576 GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NOW",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891625 143613843,143617656,2017-10-01 21:00:56,">>143613843 By ""National Capitalism"" do you mean a protectionist free market? Because I'd be all for that 100% It's about time our products were made in the US, I want my car made in Detroit and my, fuel from Texas and my other stuff from various places in the US, none of that outsourcing bullshit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506891656 143613843,143617661,2017-10-01 21:01:02,">>143617288 Correlation does not equal causation necessarily. The United States has one of the largest populations in the world yet we have one of the highest standards of living. Not the highest but one of the highest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891662 143613843,143617672,2017-10-01 21:01:09,">>143617543 If you understood economics, you wouldn't be pro-tariff. You're the last one who should be calling socialists ignorant.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891669 143613843,143617676,2017-10-01 21:01:13,">>143617278 My Nation does not rob me, the over-reaching goverment bureaucrats rob me. For an AnCap you oughta know the difference between a Nation and a Nation-State. County =/= Goverment. My goverment is corrupt, I want to change that because I love my Nation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891673 143613843,143617677,2017-10-01 21:01:13,">>143617543 Nazi Germany didn't do those things?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891673 143613843,143617777,2017-10-01 21:02:22,">>143617677 somewhat but they later fucked the whole thing up and went crazy with central banking, they didn't really increase production all that much",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891742 143613843,143617808,2017-10-01 21:02:44,">>143617672 I'm not pro tarrif dude, you're talking to the wrong person.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891764 143613843,143617838,2017-10-01 21:03:05,">>143617576 They're not my people so they can fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891785 143613843,143617850,2017-10-01 21:03:08,">>143617676 Your ""nation"" overwhelmingly accepts the legitimacy of the government robbing you and restricting your freedom. The average American is a dumb, vicious bootlicking sheep.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891788 143613843,143617860,2017-10-01 21:03:17,">>143617576 Stop the aid bullshit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891797 143613843,143617939,2017-10-01 21:04:23,">>143617850 I would have to agree. Most Americans blindly accept the government. America awake!",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891863 143613843,143617976,2017-10-01 21:04:45,">>143617850 yeah, all those spics and niggers who vote for the democrats. Don't even get me started on the neo-cons. they're all out of here if they can't respect what my nation stands for. Real Americans know what this country was founded for. God and COuntry.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506891885 143613843,143618175,2017-10-01 21:07:09,"Both neoclassical and Austrian economists overwhelmingly accept that free international trade increases the well-being of each country engaging in free trade, but these National Capitalist retards still think they somehow know better.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892029 143613843,143618315,2017-10-01 21:08:47,">>143618175 I didn't read the OP. Is this national capitalism thing against global free trade? If so, that's fucking retarded.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892127 143613843,143618336,2017-10-01 21:08:56,">>143618175 I didn't agree with tarrifs and restrictions. Reread the thread buddy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892136 143613843,143618394,2017-10-01 21:09:37,">>143618315 I would say no. Free trade is important.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892177 143613843,143618523,2017-10-01 21:11:00,">>143618175 I agree that Economic ""nationalism"" doesn't help maintain the nation in the end.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892260 143613843,143618848,2017-10-01 21:14:45,">>143618315 Is this national capitalism thing against global free trade? No. >>143618175 >Both neoclassical and Austrian economists overwhelmingly accept that free international trade increases the well-being of each country engaging in free trade No disagreement. Those economists are also the same people that point out how unlimited mass immigration would technically raise the gdp of the nation and the globe, even if it winds up destroying everything that makes the nation worth living in. There are some things worth sacrificing maximum potential production for.",,Anonymous,1503108958216.jpg,ntCJiJ9QOu/KmI3Ao4Ajow==,US,,1506892485 143613843,143619056,2017-10-01 21:17:19,">>143618848 I agree with free markets/free trade but heavily restricting immigration. I also think democracy should be limited and socialist/social democratic/marxist political parties should be BANNED completely.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892639 143613843,143619099,2017-10-01 21:17:49,">>143618848 Did you read your own FAQ? You are swinging like a weather vane. >National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. >tariffs are applied",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892669 143613843,143619163,2017-10-01 21:18:36,We need a photoshop of this with Libertarians.,,Anonymous,wamu.jpg,Y2bUwnCA+q8J1j7kCqfBqQ==,,,1506892716 143613843,143619168,2017-10-01 21:18:39,">>143613843 >National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. At a macro level isn't that essentially how socialist regimes functioned? The state takes everyone's money and labor and does business with the outside world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506892719 143613843,143619220,2017-10-01 21:19:17,">>143619056 I can get behind that brother.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892757 143613843,143619392,2017-10-01 21:21:18,">>143619168 National Capitalism is a choice, A pledge to value your brothers. No one will be stealing your labor to pay for a massive welfare state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892878 143613843,143619429,2017-10-01 21:21:38,">>143619056 >National capitalism is like libertarians but we're anti-free trade and anti-open borders >Oh, we like socialist NASA programs too. SOME socialism is ok. >AND we want to ban socialist parties And so on and so on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506892898 143613843,143619518,2017-10-01 21:22:42,">>143613960 > America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans Nah if we're making an American ethnostate it should be WASP only. Pan-europeanism is just as degenerate as normal multiculturalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506892962 143613843,143619589,2017-10-01 21:23:33,Only a yank could conjure up this joke of an ideology,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506893013 143613843,143619592,2017-10-01 21:23:36,">>143619429 boo hoo faggot, are you triggered because you saw a picture of an American on the moon? grow up cunt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893016 143613843,143619623,2017-10-01 21:23:54,">>143619056 >I agree with free markets/free trade but I am a huge capitalist but there is fair trade and free trade. Contrary to popular beliefs, they are not the same.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893034 143613843,143619659,2017-10-01 21:24:14,">>143619099 >if you support anything that isn't completely unregulated markets you are entirely against free trade REEEEE This is not an ancap thread. http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/28/politics/trump-china-tariffs/index.html >>143619429 Yes. And so on and so on.",,Anonymous,1504554871061.jpg,Py8fQdwLiZ2/gO0SZlq0iA==,US,,1506893054 143613843,143619672,2017-10-01 21:24:24,">>143619589 t.king george",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893064 143613843,143619815,2017-10-01 21:26:03,"What's a national capitalists view on the Jews? Also is this just a ploy to make more natsocs libertarian or ancap? Lastly how would it's government work? >Natsoc without the dictatorship",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893163 143613843,143619898,2017-10-01 21:26:51,">>143619623 I want free trade. >>143619429 >>AND we want to ban socialist parties Why is this bad? Banning anti-free market parties is a very libertarian thing to do. >>Oh, we like socialist NASA programs too. SOME socialism is ok. As long as it's paid for with voluntary taxation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506893211 143613843,143619946,2017-10-01 21:27:23,">>143619815 Jews are cacner.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506893243 143613843,143619949,2017-10-01 21:27:23,">>143619392 The rich elite aren't your brothers just because they live in the same nation as you. They don't give a shit about you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893243 143613843,143620041,2017-10-01 21:28:17,">>143619672 tru",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1506893297 143613843,143620067,2017-10-01 21:28:39,">>143619949 >rich elite why do you think all rich people are evil? Also if you took all of the money from the rich, it wouldn't make the poor and middle class better off, that's impossible. The working class already consumes 99% of consumer goods, taking the rich people's money will only cause massive inflation. Taxation should be abolished, it destroys economic production.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506893319 143613843,143620238,2017-10-01 21:30:46,">>143620067 I didn't say anyone was evil. I said they don't care about a ""nation"" or being ""brothers"" they care about being rich and getting richer.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893446 143613843,143620320,2017-10-01 21:31:43,>ITT,,Anonymous,1505000105337.png,usB6h40DG9CQ3H/L0czrYw==,US,,1506893503 143613843,143620411,2017-10-01 21:32:43,This quite literally kills the individualist,,Anonymous,1503751470910.png,ivVHHqiEMCxIde4WJTqOMA==,US,,1506893563 143613843,143620490,2017-10-01 21:33:32,">(((capitalism))) NAZBOL GANG WHERE WE AT",,Anonymous,,,,,1506893612 143613843,143620525,2017-10-01 21:33:55,"I have a strong inclination that natcaps are just ancaps that haven't read enough ancap literature yet. Capitalism taken to it's absolute results in volunteerism and ancap. Nations would still compete with one another as you seen to want, but it would be done through the individual and not the State.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893635 143613843,143620543,2017-10-01 21:34:07,National Capitalism is the official /pol political ideology.,,Anonymous,national_capitalism.jpg,QJsUobjuX8Kh9+GOl8seCg==,,,1506893647 143613843,143620587,2017-10-01 21:34:33,"so, you are basically asking for a water-down version of fascism",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1506893673 143613843,143620613,2017-10-01 21:34:56,">>143620525 Don't tell my friends, but I am an AnCap.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893696 143613843,143620667,2017-10-01 21:35:36,">>143619815 The same as the National Socialists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506893736 143613843,143620784,2017-10-01 21:36:44,">>143620587 No, were asking for Nationalism for OUR American identity with our values, not for the more economically left traditions of Europe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506893804 143613843,143620914,2017-10-01 21:38:07,">when capitalists confuse having the ""right to trade freely"" with abundant state-sanctioned trade",,Anonymous,1495336297327.jpg,CEEsY0+Sd2NI763GSvSHzQ==,US,,1506893887 143613843,143620939,2017-10-01 21:38:27,">>143619815 >What's a national capitalists view on the Jews? They can go fuck off to Israel if they want to work for the best interests of Israel. No more money/weapons to Israel unless we get something of equal value in return. No wars for Israel. Jews are only capable of acting as subversive forces if you let them/the nation has a weak enough culture to allow it. >Also is this just a ploy to make more natsocs libertarian or ancap? No, this is a fusion of traditional American aesthetic and values, with the racial views of Natsoc/the founding fathers, and a recognition of the importance of free/fair markets. Natsocs and Libertarians operate off different definitions of 'socialism' entirely, and therefore when they argue they basically talk past each other, see pic related. MOST Right Libertarians and Natsocs are basically the same thing operating under different aesthetics and definitions of terms. >Lastly how would it's government work? 1776, whites only. The founding fathers actually thought this way, they just never considered it necessary to write down something so obvious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE",,Anonymous,1506232691983.jpg,5Dp2Kez110kLFuvAxkSiJg==,US,,1506893907 143613843,143621099,2017-10-01 21:40:14,">>143620939 >They can go fuck off to Israel if they want to work for the best interests of Israel The same Jews behind white genocide are running Israel. Why would we ever give Jews more power by empowering Israel as a State?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894014 143613843,143621119,2017-10-01 21:40:23,">>143620939 >free/fair markets Which one?",,Anonymous,1505694194419.jpg,Wyg+0ycaBsBuBZ6+/Mj0Zw==,US,,1506894023 143613843,143621130,2017-10-01 21:40:31,">>143620784 so, watered-down fascism",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1506894031 143613843,143621274,2017-10-01 21:42:01,">>143621119 the only market that is truly fair is laissez-faire.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894121 143613843,143621345,2017-10-01 21:42:45,">>143621099 >Why would we ever give Jews more power by empowering Israel as a State? If they are unable to afford weapons without US aid and are invaded by surrounding countries then that would just be too bad, wouldn't it? If Israel is unable to defend itself, oh well.",,Anonymous,1504381273860.jpg,+ZGw/qV9wafzFl0RKyOLFQ==,US,,1506894165 143613843,143621378,2017-10-01 21:43:06,">>143621274 >Let's pollute our environment because profit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894186 143613843,143621394,2017-10-01 21:43:21,">>143621130 your fascism is watered down with socialism. Theres no point in having an white nation if you're just gonna dumb us down with your dysgenic, totalitarianism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894201 143613843,143621401,2017-10-01 21:43:30,">>143621274 *blocks ur path*",,Anonymous,facebook logo 4.jpg,N/KRifeLd6H71IRiS/+iOg==,,,1506894210 143613843,143621442,2017-10-01 21:43:58,">>143621274 >he doesn't realize that's just life itself Alrighty, let's let things run their course and whatever result happens is by default fair.",,Anonymous,a102.gif,dmo8X3rZtIdT13a0PcDNDA==,US,,1506894238 143613843,143621472,2017-10-01 21:44:17,">>143621378 nice quote, is that mine?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894257 143613843,143621528,2017-10-01 21:44:58,">>143621401 only a nazbol could be dumb enough to conflate faceberg corporatism with capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894298 143613843,143621570,2017-10-01 21:45:27,">>143621528 >n-not real capitalism Like pottery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894327 143613843,143621665,2017-10-01 21:46:48,">>143621570 when a corporation meddles with politics it is not capitalist, thats called corporatism. more like european fascism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894408 143613843,143621805,2017-10-01 21:48:13,">>143621665 >this thing that always results from capitalist markets isn't capitalist",,Anonymous,1.jpg,qbjCTcIJLzIa04K8n4yO3w==,US,,1506894493 143613843,143621816,2017-10-01 21:48:20,">>143621528 >>143621665 >i don't understand corporatism",,Anonymous,,,,,1506894500 143613843,143621939,2017-10-01 21:49:45,"Capitalism needs put in its place. Ancient Greece and Rome had market economies, but they wouldn't be defined as capitalist countries, you think some low-life money changer had shit to say to Caesar? Feudal systems had markets, you think some trader had any power over a lord? Or a serf for that matter? The serf and the lord were on the same team, they were loyal to their land. Check out where merchants ranked in feudal Japan. Chasing after money needs to relegated back to its historical place, a low-minded pursuit. Capitalism is all fun and good, but it makes a better slave than master, we have it ass-backward.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506894585 143613843,143622305,2017-10-01 21:53:42,">>143621805 Didn't happen in America before the kikes expanded the federal goverment, there was no market incentive to abuse state power because the state had no power. Thats what I wish for a return to. now fuck off you hippie communist dipshit faggot. >>143621816 you clearly don't.",,Anonymous,1487455121476.png,+Lu+XXlzYPq8+fTfFNqOLg==,US,,1506894822 143613843,143623006,2017-10-01 22:00:47,">>143622305 >before the kikes expanded the federal government Well golly gee, now I wonder just how in the world they managed to do that! Was it by controlling the economy and financing the campaigns of politicians who would expand state power? The Nazbol and I both know you only said corporatism to avoid calling it crony capitalism, by the way. >heheh anti-communist action The word you were looking for is ""talk"". Action is pic related. Capitalist USA arms and equips communists. Because they are two sides of the same coin.",,Anonymous,1494705433163.gif,+X5HFi8UZ5WTCV+fOtvgsw==,US,,1506895247 143613843,143623106,2017-10-01 22:01:58,So in other words kinda similar to what Pinochet did? I like it.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506895318 143613843,143623385,2017-10-01 22:05:26,">>143623006 Many traitors expanded the vote and forever destroyed the republic, we will not tolerate those traitors this time around. and btw Anti-Com is now an official organizaion that funds and organizes plenty of right wing action in the united states. take a peep at their stuff sometime. nice gif btw, when are you marching?",,Anonymous,Tucker.png,G3ntbYA6wn77pdLZEi56hw==,US,,1506895526 143613843,143623585,2017-10-01 22:07:37,">>143620543 hnnnngh >>143623006>>143623385 This is the importance of nationalism, to hold traitors to account and prevent things from getting out of control and spiraling into cronyism.",,Anonymous,031.jpg,/U2a5sDXpUB3b/EKDOe/Cg==,US,,1506895657 143613843,143623701,2017-10-01 22:09:06,">>143623385 >we will not tolerate those traitors this time around. Yes you will. You're too busy looking after your own cows to worry about anyone else's. This is the nature of capitalism and how it subjugates a people. >when are you marching? When it's time to rebuild",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506895746 143613843,143623901,2017-10-01 22:11:20,">>143623701 >When it's time to rebuild So after Jamal is done with your wife?..",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506895880 143613843,143623906,2017-10-01 22:11:25,">>143615044 >""I don't know what natsoc is""",,Anonymous,,,,,1506895885 143613843,143623942,2017-10-01 22:11:48,"""The state is the ultimate nigger because it puts a gun to everyones head, takes their money, and acts like it dindu nuffin wrong"" - Hanns-Hermann Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506895908 143613843,143623960,2017-10-01 22:12:05,">>143623585 I just bothered to properly read the OP Mate, you're a closet NatSoc. You either think there's something cooler about capitalist aesthetics, or redddit's got you brainwashed into towing Marxist narratives about socialism.",,Anonymous,1504828720945.png,UkTliEF8tWtGyjoM9DawWw==,US,,1506895925 143613843,143624133,2017-10-01 22:14:03,">>143623901 It's capitalists that fetishize niggers, not me. They're the ones that brought em here in the first place because they were too lazy to pick their own crops.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506896043 143613843,143624225,2017-10-01 22:15:03,">>143623960 you're confusing the history re-written by communists about america with the truth about American Nationalism and liberty. >>143623942 based",,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,US,,1506896103 143613843,143624307,2017-10-01 22:16:06,">>143624133 No that was the colonial mercantilists that brought the niggers here, not the revolutionary capitalists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506896166 143613843,143624345,2017-10-01 22:16:29,"This thread is just natsoc but shit and made by idiots who fell for the natsoc = Marxist socialism meme >I want to be able to run my own shop, and have mostly free trade but conservative values and tariffs on other nations so my jobs are saved rather then Chinese ones Oh wait that's just Nazi economics >Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Also you forgot to remove fascism from the /nsg/ pastepin you stole your op from",,Anonymous,,,,,1506896189 143613843,143624646,2017-10-01 22:19:56,">>143624225 I'm not. You're avoiding the fact that capitalism is what allowed our original American principles to be killed off within a few decades. >>143624307 >adding modifiers",,Anonymous,1502536639523.jpg,EcjDLODB/WoRwUUcsSFskQ==,US,,1506896396 143613843,143624652,2017-10-01 22:20:00,">>143615044 >not knowing what national socialism is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506896400 143613843,143624667,2017-10-01 22:20:17,">>143624345 Only I didn't forget when I made a conscious decision to leave it in. Also refer to here. >>143620939",,Anonymous,1505621217281.jpg,r09kW/DfwWvF8ByldjA9tQ==,US,,1506896417 143613843,143624913,2017-10-01 22:23:11,">>143624646 >original American principles you mean Capitalism, God and Nation? we've been through this already, you're repeating non-arguments. traitors expanded the federal goverment. they should be hanged if they try it again.",,Anonymous,1487041975527.jpg,WOXJhZNneX564LJE5Tn+Mg==,US,,1506896591 143613843,143624999,2017-10-01 22:24:08,">>143624667 You literally just copy+paste the OP from /nsg/ and changed a few words. This wouldn't even be called national capitalism, it would be national libertarianism or something.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506896648 143613843,143625069,2017-10-01 22:25:00,">>143624913 This. >>143624999 Join or die",,Anonymous,,,,,1506896700 143613843,143625149,2017-10-01 22:25:58,">>143624999 Capitalism and Libertarianism are the same thing. Capitalism was originally a derogatory term we adopted. kinda like National Socialists adopted the term ""Nazi"" despite it originating as an insult.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506896758 143613843,143625489,2017-10-01 22:30:19,נאַר! איר וועט זיין חרובֿ אויב דאָס ווערט באַטייַטיק!,,Anonymous,,,,,1506897019 143613843,143625516,2017-10-01 22:30:37,"Have all the idiots here saying corporatism is created by capitalism had their heads up their ass the whole time? Get rid of the globalist puppets running government and corporations, classify the act of politicains accepting donations and funding from corporations and unions as ""corruption"" and ""bribery"", and you'll have a truly fair capitalist society. It's been said like 10 times now for fucksake! Chile when went from being a communist shithole to the most economically prosperous nation in South America thanks to National Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506897037 143613843,143625525,2017-10-01 22:30:44,">>143624913 >he doesn't even know the founding fathers' principles Why am I talking to you? >traitors expanded the federal goverment. they should be hanged if they try it again. >they s-should be hanged! Great plan, retard. Ask me how I can tell you're just a part-time LARPer who hasn't actually resolved his ideological beliefs yet. Also you forgot to mention the part where the federal government is already expanded to like ten times the size it was back then, and everybody who would've waged a civil war have been reduced to drooling, lobotomized consumer-drones thanks to capitalism. >>143625069 You're not killing anyone, faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506897044 143613843,143625599,2017-10-01 22:31:41,">>143625525 Never said anything about killing dumbass.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897101 143613843,143625684,2017-10-01 22:32:42,">>143625599 Joining you makes me immortal then? Good to know, maybe I'll reconsider.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506897162 143613843,143625715,2017-10-01 22:33:02,">>143625149 >Capitalism and Libertarianism are the same thing. Capitalism was originally a derogatory term we adopted. No capitalism is economics nothing else. Libertarians can be socialists most of them on /pol/ are capitalists though. So call yourself national libertarians rather then national capitalism which just sounds retarded >National Socialism without the dictatorship. Literally just libertarian nationalists trying to apply a globalist economy system and freedom, low taxes free trade etc into nationalism and ethno-nationalism dispite this all countering each-other since to make good profits you export jobs overseas and bring in cheap Mexicans >kinda like National Socialists adopted the term ""Nazi"" despite it originating as an insult. That's not even why it was used in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897182 143613843,143625798,2017-10-01 22:34:05,">>143624652 >>143623906 It's definitely not socialism despite it being in the name, right?",,Anonymous,1505534021566.jpg,jpUFCJ2OCyQdAha0EB0XVw==,,,1506897245 143613843,143625921,2017-10-01 22:35:31,"卐 REAL NATIONAL SOCIALISM THREAD 卐 >>143625818 >>143625818 >>143625818 >>143625818 >>143625818 ϟϟ REAL NATIONAL SOCIALISM THREAD ϟϟ",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897331 143613843,143625966,2017-10-01 22:36:02,Invent the fucking time machine already,,Anonymous,View_of_Woolworth_Building_fixed.jpg,DGIM06KoNispQmcxVv+3Ug==,GB,,1506897362 143613843,143626019,2017-10-01 22:36:39,">>143625715 If you want your capitalism being nationalistic and anti-degenerate and the stoppage of jobs going to China then your economically a Nazi. If you want to be able to jerk off to mass produced porn,do weed and build factories overseas in China but hate niggers and love your country. Your a national Libertarian",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897399 143613843,143626076,2017-10-01 22:37:10,"This ideology is a work in progress, obviously, and an attempt to create a ""third way"" ideology to oppose social international corporatism and radical libertarianism, which replaced Marxism-Leninism and neoliberal capitalism as the two dominant ideological poles after the collapse of the Soviet Union. If you succeed in creating a coherent ideology out of this you'll fill the current void of ideas in the western political discourse and rule the western world. It's worth doing to put intellectual heft behind all of these pissed off people and move things to the next level politically.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506897430 143613843,143626100,2017-10-01 22:37:28,">>143625798 Yeah north Korea is really democratic and the ussr was a union of republics instead of just Russia shoving it's dick into everything",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897448 143613843,143626153,2017-10-01 22:38:11,">>143625798 Nigger you're just downright retarded. Taxes are socialist, yet they're not marxist like the socialists of today.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506897491 143613843,143626304,2017-10-01 22:39:39,">>143626076 A work in progress? Silly goy,,,,,",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897579 143613843,143626371,2017-10-01 22:40:21,">>143626019 You fail to reckognise that capitalism requires you building trustyworthy relationships with buisness partners, naturally we dont trust pedophiles and trannies as responsible people so we dont trust them with any investments. laissez-faire aka the natural order is the most conservative order there is. >>143625715 >Libertarians can be socialists I'm sorry I can't talk to you.",,Anonymous,CHAOS.png,N2K54wnDdXwqT7qCAuNl1A==,US,,1506897621 143613843,143626387,2017-10-01 22:40:31,">>143613843 >National Capitalism >Libertarianism but without open borders >Also its National Socialism There's something not quite right here, cletus",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897631 143613843,143626421,2017-10-01 22:40:46,">>143626100 >>143626153 Ancaps are Marxists, don't be surprised at them acting like Marxists",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506897646 143613843,143626536,2017-10-01 22:41:55,">>143613843 ""Capitalism but also Socialism"" KYS faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897715 143613843,143626561,2017-10-01 22:42:08,I reject your materialistic capitalism with its worship of the acquisition of property. National Libertarian Society of Workers is the answer. NatLib. Hail the Constitution! Liberty or death!,,Anonymous,,,,,1506897728 143613843,143626617,2017-10-01 22:42:46,">>143626371 >capitalism requires you building trustyworthy relationships with buisness partners >we dont trust pedophiles and trannies as responsible people so we dont trust them with any investments. I don't think you get how the whole ""you"" and ""we"" thing works. Unless you personally are the business partner, you have fuck-all to do with the relationship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506897766 143613843,143626753,2017-10-01 22:44:17,">>143626371 >You fail to reckognise that capitalism requires you building trustyworthy relationships with buisness partners, naturally we dont trust pedophiles and trannies as responsible people so we dont trust them with any investments. The trust only needs to be minimum. You don't have to trust the trading partner like a brother and if your not full ancap retardation police will enforce the trade if a contract is signed or goods are traded. Do you trust the chinese like a brother to produce apple products? No you don't but they still make it so the trust is pretty low level >Libertarians can be socialists >I'm sorry I can't talk to you. I never said libertarian socialism would work I just stated libertarians do not have to be capitalistic they just tend too",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897857 143613843,143626801,2017-10-01 22:44:40,">>143626019 >Anyone who thinks protectionism is sometimes necessary in trade is basically a NatSoc and cannot be a NatCap/NatLib in anyway. Seriously shut the fuck up you idiot.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506897880 143613843,143626964,2017-10-01 22:46:16,">>143626801 Your either for a free market or your not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506897976 143613843,143627016,2017-10-01 22:46:48,">>143626617 >Unless you personally are the business partner yes, I want you to vote with your actual labor. You have a duty to make a product for society. You must be a capitalist and a responsible one or you're fucked. tough luck faggot. we're not NEETsocs that baby our people, the only thing we garentee is that we will protect their persons and property.",,Anonymous,1494199996985.jpg,5JCNG+rCtM+B1/iHTRok7w==,US,,1506898008 143613843,143627495,2017-10-01 22:52:15,">>143626753 you dont need to trust them to keep their word, you need to trust that they are going to be a sucessful buisness partner. If you buy a capitalists product you have to acurately judge their merits, is their product gonna work? are they of low moral? will they use their wealth to destroy your people? failure to properly discriminate means your death. To disregard natural law is a leftist revolt against nature. Enjoy waving your fist at the sky faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506898335 143613843,143627765,2017-10-01 22:55:08,">>143627016 >completely missing the point because he's a LARPtard who doesn't actually follow the garbage he's shoveling. It's not ""voting"" with your labor. That's not how capitalism works. A capitalist economy is dominated by a small class of the most successful capitalists. You are a low-level peasant and your business relationships will have absolutely zero impact on what the big shots are doing. >You have a duty to make a product for society. You are now quoting NatSoc policy, retard. >You must be a capitalist Translated: I must care more about my personal financial profits than about the well-being of my community. Go back to redddit and come back when you've formed some actual beliefs.",,Anonymous,1504615624588.jpg,6s2BGp5ZOXtk4Brg4Ju9uw==,US,,1506898508 143613843,143627850,2017-10-01 22:56:11,Nice work op. I tried to start /ncg/ a few days ago and failed.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506898571 143613843,143627890,2017-10-01 22:56:36,">>143626964 So any trade that is not free trade means it is not a capitalist society in anyway shape or form? You can still have a competitive market and free trade of goods whilst protecting your countries jobs. Can people not sell their product abroad whilst manufacturing the product at home?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506898596 143613843,143628014,2017-10-01 22:58:17,">>143623006 >Well golly gee, now I wonder just how in the world they managed to do that! Corporatism started in america thanks to socialist policies and the resulting growth of the federal government. Back when it was libertarian/free market, the government was so small there was nothing to corrupt. Kill yourself commie.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506898697 143613843,143628092,2017-10-01 22:59:16,">>143627765 You sound like a whining anti-fa queer. >Its not fair! >I'll always be poor because THE SYSTEM keeps me down maaaaaan oh and >I must care more about my personal financial profits than about the well-being of my community. Now you're quoting Marx's philosophy, dipshit. get lost you baby, get a job. It's not that bad.",,Anonymous,1501715304050.jpg,505WaabB1aU6xs3zICC47w==,US,,1506898756 143613843,143628096,2017-10-01 22:59:18,">National capitalism That's a funny way of saying fascism",,Anonymous,,,,,1506898758 143613843,143628110,2017-10-01 22:59:32,">>143627765 >Translated: I must care more about my personal financial profits than about the well-being of my community. There's nothing wrong with this. Everyone should be self reliant and not be a shitty welfare queen degenerate. Self reliance is what grows the economy and strengthens society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506898772 143613843,143628165,2017-10-01 23:00:10,">>143628096 >National Bolshevism That's a funny way of saying zionism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506898810 143613843,143628182,2017-10-01 23:00:21,">>143627765 >A capitalist economy is dominated by a small class of the most successful capitalists. Who mass produce goods and services, lower prices and raise the living standards of everyone in society. Rockefeller, Carnegie and Vanderbilt did NOTHING wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506898821 143613843,143628246,2017-10-01 23:01:16,Abolish Central Banks and the rest of this will fall into place.,,Anonymous,1355112923499.jpg,FTlYYlfL2YqFGdkXBDAFxQ==,,,1506898876 143613843,143628303,2017-10-01 23:01:56,">>143628014 >thanks to socialist policies >enacted by an overexpansive federal government >but wait it was those policies that lead to it overexpanding >I guess they just came out of thin air, heheh",,Anonymous,1501053382718.jpg,BQaoH9Az3QFAHoAA2/jlxA==,US,,1506898916 143613843,143628405,2017-10-01 23:03:17,">>143627495 >you dont need to trust them to keep their word, you need to trust that they are going to be a sucessful buisness partner. If you buy a capitalists product you have to acurately judge their merits, is their product gonna work? are they of low moral? People don't care, that much it's why you sell jobs to China and make cheap washing machines that break after 5 years instead of 20 and why people buy iphones that break when you sneeze on them. Because it's cheap and popular, no one would buy clothes from overseas if they really cared about the morality of child labor. If your gonna put laws in place stopping someone making a person to person trade with a business in China then you can take the libertarian badge off your shirt along with the free market one, and put on a Nazi economic badge on. And for the most part take off three quarters of the capitalist one >>143627890 Then it's not free trade is it? Your pulling a hate speech isn't free speech type of thinking. If you want managed capitalism and protectionism and nationalism and morality in business but not too much since that would be statist but still all the good of the free market somehow, call yourself a libertarian nazi or any other self contradicting term",,Anonymous,,,,,1506898997 143613843,143628462,2017-10-01 23:03:57,">>143628110 Strawmanning like a kike Not surprised, not impressed. Try harder. >>143628182 And lobby politicians, and influence politics, and implement the same regulations you bitch about ten minutes later for restricting the free market.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899037 143613843,143628482,2017-10-01 23:04:13,">>143628303 those policies came from traitors who share your beliefs. your kind must be done away with.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899053 143613843,143628589,2017-10-01 23:05:40,">>143628092 Except it's exactly the argument you make over barriers to entry and the market not being free. >Now you're quoting Marx's philosophy, dipshit. You are quite retarded. It's good to know you think the founding fathers were Marxists, though. Really puts this whole conversation into perspective.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899140 143613843,143628634,2017-10-01 23:06:12,">>143627765 >I must care more about my personal financial profits than about the well-being of my community. The community can go fuck itself. The individual and how successful he is is all that matters. It's not my job to throw around NEETbux like how Shitler did.",,Anonymous,1506052465242.jpg,yFm+vV6LOF5NzWHgJiVWDg==,,,1506899172 143613843,143628678,2017-10-01 23:06:38,">>143628405 Those jobs were chased away from america because of regulation on the market. When communist party china is an optimal choice for capitalists you have much bigger problems than jobs leaving.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899198 143613843,143628696,2017-10-01 23:06:52,">>143628482 >you're a capitalist who betrayed society in favor of your profits! >y-you must be done away with! pottery",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899212 143613843,143628913,2017-10-01 23:09:36,National capitalism is awesome,,Anonymous,dont tread on us.png,eZmKSPQRnJyO77qjXi+I6g==,,,1506899376 143613843,143628964,2017-10-01 23:10:14,">>143628589 Yes, by declining to trade with people you have made a barrier. No one can take your money and force their services on you. You are allowed to discriminate under free association . the civil rights act was a great tyranny on the american people. That alone has aided in the communist takeover of america.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899414 143613843,143629115,2017-10-01 23:12:13,">>143628696 Yes, theres a reason we wanted to reject europeans with shitty ideas from entering America and wanted to deport the blacks who would destroy our nation. Discrimination is the right of the people and proprietors.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899533 143613843,143629145,2017-10-01 23:12:38,">>143628964 >he didn't understand what entry barrier meant k",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899558 143613843,143629223,2017-10-01 23:13:24,">>143628678 >Those jobs were chased away from america because of regulation on the market More so due to workers and unions demanding fair living wages and holidays off. You American's shot a few hundred union men back in the 20's all the way up to sometime in the 60's Do you pay an American town enough money to do all of that with good health safety (Pic related) holidays off etc. Since if you don't they form strike unions and force you to pay. Or pay twice as many Chinks the same amount to produce the same goods and cut the competition in half and with global trade and fuel economy reaching new heights it's fairly cheap to ship products around the world",,Anonymous,,,,,1506899604 143613843,143629285,2017-10-01 23:14:02,">>143629223 For real pic related",,Anonymous,image.jpg,p6sKuvGz7TdAYHQFQECJzA==,,,1506899642 143613843,143629294,2017-10-01 23:14:13,">>143629115 >Discrimination is the right of the people and proprietors >but still, free association though hahah, so if you do want to bring em here, maybe for some cheap labor idk, that's totally up to you! xD",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899653 143613843,143629321,2017-10-01 23:14:32,"How come the WASP elite became cucked, lads? And are you ready to take things back?",,Anonymous,1359576206112.jpg,mRA7d50g6P62hlbkIkFdVA==,,,1506899672 143613843,143629381,2017-10-01 23:15:12,">>143628634 Not feeling like humoring Marxists tonight, sorry. Some other time Ancap",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899712 143613843,143629507,2017-10-01 23:16:50,">>143614834 This. NatCaps ftw!",,Anonymous,,,,,1506899810 143613843,143629513,2017-10-01 23:16:53,National Capitalism has absolutely nothing to do with being white you fucking retard,,Anonymous,,,,,1506899813 143613843,143629527,2017-10-01 23:17:08,">>143629294 >but still, free association though hahah, so if you do want to bring em here, maybe for some cheap labor idk, that's totally up to you! xD Free association means equally free dissociation, maybe I should have spelled that out for you. oh and good luck importing a bunch of niggers from across the sea with you OWN CAPITAL. heh, that will surely give you the market edge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899828 143613843,143629587,2017-10-01 23:17:49,">>143621345 But Israel has grown so wealthy from American aid Israel is preparing to willingly stop receiving it. So again: why would we empower a wealthy, nuclear armed theocratic State which is responsible for white genocide? Are you a Jew or something?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899869 143613843,143629594,2017-10-01 23:17:55,">>143628634 Oh hey its (((you))), another anarchy utopian. Your entire belief system is political escapism. Please describe precisely how you are different from pic related.",,Anonymous,1506748998832.jpg,FjOizsCNCodUqBNj25AfVQ==,US,,1506899875 143613843,143629636,2017-10-01 23:18:23,">>143629513 It implicitly does",,Anonymous,first US constitution.png,Toy682IDS8fYoZCdMgSjJA==,,,1506899903 143613843,143629652,2017-10-01 23:18:32,">>143616932 Fuck yeah man tariffs are the only thing making american production competitive with slave-labor markets like China.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506899912 143613843,143629669,2017-10-01 23:18:47,">>143629527 ""equally free dissociation"" means equally free association you absolute retard. >good luck importing a bunch of niggers from across the sea with you OWN CAPITAL. heh, that will surely give you the market edge. >he thinks plane tickets are expensive",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506899927 143613843,143629670,2017-10-01 23:18:48,">>143629507 God Bless you Patriot.",,Anonymous,6.png,MxWdkfAuPYxP2UVm8BPMpQ==,US,,1506899928 143613843,143629702,2017-10-01 23:19:07,">>143629513 OP is a collectivist faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506899947 143613843,143629723,2017-10-01 23:19:18,Now this is a movement I can get behind.,,Anonymous,commies get out.png,Xjqt6ZbLt/Orfo1vrNVjdQ==,US,,1506899958 143613843,143629762,2017-10-01 23:19:48,Oxymoron general,,Anonymous,starterpack.jpg,sYuBy7MYUa1+cS1qb3BKoA==,CO,,1506899988 143613843,143629841,2017-10-01 23:20:33,">>143629669 So how many plane tickets for how many niggers from africa and on what airline and what class seating? I'll do the research and give you your grand total.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506900033 143613843,143629890,2017-10-01 23:21:14,">>143613960 >Promoting tariffs, labor unions, closing borders and prohibiting outsourcing. God damn this makes me hard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900074 143613843,143629904,2017-10-01 23:21:24,">>143625798 >>143615044 >It's definitely not socialism despite it being in the name, right? No, actually. Again, you're a no-nothing ancap retard. Nothing interesting at all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506900084 143613843,143629988,2017-10-01 23:22:29,">>143628405 >N-not a real capitalist! Blatant strawman of my argument. I only said protectionism is sometimes necessary when it comes to jobs. If business is to be, for the most part, private. Then business is going to expand. I don't see what's not capitalistic about saying ""You may expand your business as you please. However, you must leave room for jobs here and employ the locals if you expand.""",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1506900149 143613843,143629993,2017-10-01 23:22:31,">>143629670 Someday we'll take our country back. We need to look into starting a political party",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900151 143613843,143630017,2017-10-01 23:22:53,">>143629904 fuck off crypto-commie.",,Anonymous,1506032503388.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,,,1506900173 143613843,143630096,2017-10-01 23:23:41,">>143629841 >what airline and what class seating Insults aside, are you legitimately retarded? It's called immigration. They don't give a fuck how they get here.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506900221 143613843,143630117,2017-10-01 23:23:51,">>143616840 >>143616932 >>143617278 Threadly reminder that the only thing more dangerous to human society than neoliberal marxists are ancap autists. Tariffs are part of the reason why America was great, btw.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506900231 143613843,143630118,2017-10-01 23:23:52,">>143629988 This. Protectionism has been used for centuries to protect domestic production. It didn't become a dirty word until (((they))) started shilling hard against it in the nineties.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900232 143613843,143630188,2017-10-01 23:24:48,This thread is entertaining and causes some hilarious reactions.,,Anonymous,,,,,1506900288 143613843,143630199,2017-10-01 23:24:56,">>143630117 My man",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900296 143613843,143630274,2017-10-01 23:25:45,">>143630096 You said you wanted to do plane tickets. Come on bitch lets talk some real numbers. don't try to pull out of it now bitch. how are you getting them here on your own productive capital?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506900345 143613843,143630322,2017-10-01 23:26:18,">>143628303 >>enacted by an overexpansive federal government it became overexpansive because of socialism you gigantic fucking moron Why do you think america had a very small government for so fucking long? It worked for decades.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900378 143613843,143630368,2017-10-01 23:26:59,">>143628405 >People don't care, that much it's why you sell jobs to China and make cheap washing machines that break after 5 years instead of 20 and why people buy iphones that break when you sneeze on them. Because it's cheap and popular, no one would buy clothes from overseas if they really cared about the morality of child labor. >If your gonna put laws in place stopping someone making a person to person trade with a business in China then you can take the libertarian badge off your shirt along with the free market one, and put on a Nazi economic badge on. And for the most part take off three quarters of the capitalist one If USA had a free market with no central bank, all of those things would be manufactured HERE instead.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900419 143613843,143630403,2017-10-01 23:27:23,">>143629762 >I want nationalism anti-degeneracy and for commie cucks to get the fucking rope traitor kikes, most of all managed capitalism >But I still want international trade, I want freedom so we'll execute commies but if we don't have a dictator it's not statist or oppressive, and you can smoke your weed and do drugs though since we're not statist we're just anti-degeneracy without doing anything about it and free trade cause we're capitalists still Sounds like Libertarian communists Rights and no Abuse from le evil rich people, they'll give up their wealth because we're libertarian Yeah this will work and totally isn't self contradicting",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900443 143613843,143630419,2017-10-01 23:27:35,">>143629223 >More so due to workers and unions demanding fair living wages and holidays off. You American's shot a few hundred union men back in the 20's all the way up to sometime in the 60's Union scumbags need to die. Pinkertons did NOTHING wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900455 143613843,143630574,2017-10-01 23:29:35,">>143630274 I hate arguing with autistic people. >How are you getting them here on your own productive capital? By having huge capital, maybe, retard? And the point of importing cheap labor being to increase profits even more?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506900575 143613843,143630575,2017-10-01 23:29:36,Comfy thread,,Anonymous,1506468588870.jpg,JbKI6v2hdREbiVCthRNL/w==,,,1506900576 143613843,143630618,2017-10-01 23:29:59,">>143630403 >they'll give up their wealth because we're libertarian what the fuck are you talking about we want them NOT to give up their wealth their wealth makes society better off as a whole Fuck off you socialist retard",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900599 143613843,143630650,2017-10-01 23:30:17,"I agree with NatCap, but we should be focusing on social issues, not economic issues, and in the 21st century, almost all issues can be traced back to the social aspect.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900617 143613843,143630754,2017-10-01 23:31:38,">>143630618 Im using natcap as a self contraindicating term. I was comparing it to libertarian communists since both are fucking retarded ideas. And the ideas on they work go against each-other",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900698 143613843,143630756,2017-10-01 23:31:41,"Democracy needs to be limited. Socialist and social democratic political parties need to be BANNED.",,Anonymous,1350700001732.jpg,6a11OCZp5L21fAGgTS7vzw==,,,1506900701 143613843,143630837,2017-10-01 23:32:32,">>143630322 >It worked for decades. >decades Until capitalism allowed the kikes to control enough of the economy for them to subvert the government as well and start expanding it.",,Anonymous,1503255609636.jpg,BfixfuZ8qLp2E7FZN7B1Pw==,US,,1506900752 143613843,143630840,2017-10-01 23:32:34,">>143630754 >Im using natcap as a self contraindicating term. But it's not and it's hilarious watching you commie faggots struggle to make the claim that it's contradictory. White people like to own property and money. Go fuck yourself commie faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900754 143613843,143630930,2017-10-01 23:33:44,">>143630574 >I have huge capital poof like magic now you have alot of money because you said so >and now that I magically have tons of excess wealth and so I now need to spend millions, possibly billions on ships, planes or whatever to import and entierly nigger ""workforce"" because i want to ""save a dime"" >because im so wealthy and im trying to save my money.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506900824 143613843,143630970,2017-10-01 23:34:10,">>143628634 So you're just another deracinated rootless bugman then.",,Anonymous,alaindebenoist.jpg,U3hZddaoCv+TjVcV6AoOSA==,US,,1506900850 143613843,143630991,2017-10-01 23:34:28,">>143630837 >Until capitalism allowed the kikes to control enough of the economy lmao what the fuck does that even mean, capitalists controlled the ENTIRE economy from day one. This resulted in a massive increase in economic production and growth of living standards for the working class. What started the rise of corporatism was the progressive movement and socialism. It was the free market and small government that was preventing this until the (((progressives))) took over.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506900868 143613843,143631101,2017-10-01 23:35:34,">>143630840 Nationalism = the property is part of the nation and so are you. Keep calling everyone a commie, it's very convincing.",,Anonymous,1504586662944.png,nl43B/rX9UdmpWz5tikAwA==,US,,1506900934 143613843,143631118,2017-10-01 23:35:48,"Socialists/keynesians are so fucking stupid, holy shit, they actually want to be poor and enslaved. They support central banks because they enjoy being poor and don't want reduced working hours with higher pay. They think higher prices are a good thing too. Gas them all.",,Anonymous,1382908036643.jpg,ds/5mqsX6/ULDrvHQlaCtA==,,,1506900948 143613843,143631227,2017-10-01 23:37:24,">>143631101 >Nationalism = the property is part of the nation and so are you. Bullshit, that's socialism. Nationalism just means the country belongs to a common group of people and that immigrants aren't allowed in. It has nothing to do with the government owning property. >Keep calling everyone a commie, it's very convincing. Because you are literal commie and spewing commie propaganda.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901044 143613843,143631299,2017-10-01 23:38:08,">national (((socialism))) AHAHAHAHAHA Enjoy your central banks you stupid fucks.",,Anonymous,1434342758639.jpg,xECorLdrUdZcLyaL+1ZADg==,,,1506901088 143613843,143631355,2017-10-01 23:38:40,">>143613843 Are capitalist natsocs welcome?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506901120 143613843,143631363,2017-10-01 23:38:44,">>143630837 Also the fascist/natsoc shit you support is actual irl corporatism, don't try to pretend it isn't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901124 143613843,143631382,2017-10-01 23:39:01,">>143631355 contradiction in terms",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901141 143613843,143631402,2017-10-01 23:39:12,">>143630419 This man bows to (((them)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901152 143613843,143631452,2017-10-01 23:39:46,">>143630930 >poof like magic now you have alot of money because you said so Legitimately get off this website if you're too dumb to follow this conversation. Am I the only person in the country, retard? Am I the only person that could own huge corporations and want cheap labor?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901186 143613843,143631496,2017-10-01 23:40:15,">>143631101 >property is part of the nation yes, and it must be operated by the nation, the people must maintain their nations property directly. We do not trust a dictators sworn loyalty that he will serve our people and maintain our property. only a fool would beliieve such bullshit. or are you saying that the people ""Have no property"" in which case, you are a literal communist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901215 143613843,143631522,2017-10-01 23:40:27,">>143631402 Do you unironically support unions?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901227 143613843,143631536,2017-10-01 23:40:37,">>143630991 Cronyism allowed kikes to gain enough power. Nationalism puts an end to this by holding traitors to account and preventing globalism from running over the most important aspects of a nation. 'Capitalism' is not something you choose. It is a constant competition, and socialism is an attempt to circumvent that competition through redistribution. You cannot just turn off capitalism and choose something else. Even if you are a full on communist nation, your nation still must compete in the global free market of nations. Rosneft is controlled by the Russian gov and produces most of the oil, it still must compete with every other oil supplier. NatCap looks to prevent globalism, not 'do away with capitalism'. Doing away with capitalism is like doing away with hierarchy, you can't actually get rid of it, only modify your position within it.",,Anonymous,183808.jpg,FxeD6SIRY4YbCsgB38taew==,US,,1506901237 143613843,143631554,2017-10-01 23:40:49,">>143631496 >or are you saying that the people ""Have no property"" in which case, you are a literal communist. he is a literal communist",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901249 143613843,143631670,2017-10-01 23:42:11,">>143631536 >Cronyism allowed kikes to gain enough power. Exactly, progressivsm was the cronyist movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901331 143613843,143631723,2017-10-01 23:42:49,">>143630840 I'm no commie I'm a true natcap. Fascism is real natcap if your looking for a managed protectionist capitalism without Jews and internationalism and helping out your fellow citizen if he's also helping himself along with keeping degenerate and commies out out your a fascist. If you want a self contradicting free market but protectionism no degeneracy yet heaps of rights, strong united nationalistic state yet no dictator and nationalism yet willing to sell out your town if it's cheaper to move your business elsewhere. Then your a national libertarian and it's as dumb as it sounds",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901369 143613843,143631762,2017-10-01 23:43:22,">>143631227 >Bullshit, that's socialism. society and nation are not the same things >Nationalism just means the country belongs to a common group of people and that immigrants aren't allowed in. This is isolationism. Try harder. >It has nothing to do with the government owning property. Strawman harder, kike faggot. >Because you are literal commie and spewing commie propaganda. ""Socialism = communism"" is literal Marxist doctrine. How retarded do you think people are?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901402 143613843,143631797,2017-10-01 23:43:50,">>143631522 Ones like the CWA that aren't controlled by corrupt unions bosses? Hell yeah. They fight to keep our jobs, keep our pay and benefits competitive, increase health and safety standards, etc. The union men who dies in the 1800s and 1900s are the reason why the working class has the standard of living and work/life balance that they are allowed today. Keeping sucking that Jewish chode tho bro I'm sure they'll flip you a few shekels for your shilling sooner or later.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901430 143613843,143631803,2017-10-01 23:43:55,">>143631382 Well i put it like this ,iam a capitalist nationalist that wants to gas the jews and kick nonwhites out ,what am i?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1506901435 143613843,143631896,2017-10-01 23:45:10,">>143613843 >>143613960 Wow that's beautiful, I've been curious of what capitalism that includes utmost domestic national interest and direct prohibition of race mixing would look like. Good on you, keep it up.",,Anonymous,1502951402981.jpg,FxnXSr6paflPFkRwXWyUGw==,SE,,1506901510 143613843,143631906,2017-10-01 23:45:18,">>143631452 >Am I the only person that could own huge corporations? ok then how did THEY get the capital and how are THEY saving a dime when THEY already have all the wealth? you've done nothing but swtiching the subject to someone else .You haven't even adressed the question because you can't honestly verify your mystical socialst theories. theres no reason to import foreign labor under free market conditions, its not like we have a minimum wage. thats commie shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901518 143613843,143631937,2017-10-01 23:45:45,">>143613843 >National Capitalism so... National Socialism? >>National Socialism without the dictatorship. Oh, sorry I didn't realize this was an autism thread.",,Anonymous,1500717675657.jpg,ia2v541Vb9tUYYr8O/AJYQ==,AU,,1506901545 143613843,143631958,2017-10-01 23:46:02,">>143631797 >Ones like the CWA that aren't controlled by corrupt unions bosses? Hell yeah. They fight to keep our jobs, keep our pay and benefits competitive, increase health and safety standards, etc. Bullshit, they just destroy economic production and cause unemployment. Also businesses shouldn't be funding ANY healthcare plans etc. they only do that thanks to the tax code. Companies would pay higher wages if they didn't have to pay for these plans, and people would be able to buy healthplans in the market. >Keeping sucking that Jewish chode tho bro You're the kike that supports unions. Pinkertons did nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901562 143613843,143631983,2017-10-01 23:46:21,">>143631536 >'Capitalism' is not something you choose. It is a constant competition Capitalism is the division of the economy between private owners who use it to gain personal profit. You are delusional, but not actually a capitalist, so that's good.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901581 143613843,143632016,2017-10-01 23:46:47,">>143631723 >Fascism is real natcap No, fascism is modern china today. A corrupt authoritarian shithole where the government controls the markets. I want what america was in the late 1800s.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901607 143613843,143632028,2017-10-01 23:46:53,">>143631355 Short answer is yes. Dump the aesthetic though. NatCap is not 'disavowing the swastika' it is reclaiming the original imagery of the country from subversion. The American flag is White Nationalist. The German flag is White Nationalist, and so is every other European nation, etc. From the top of the thread: >But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and creating work for all citizens regardless of demand purely to increase productivity. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm Also see here: >>143620939 >>Also is this just a ploy to make more natsocs libertarian or ancap? No, this is a fusion of traditional American aesthetic and values, with the racial views of Natsoc/the founding fathers, and a recognition of the importance of free/fair markets. Natsocs and Libertarians operate off different definitions of 'socialism' entirely, and therefore when they argue they basically talk past each other, see pic related. MOST Right Libertarians and Natsocs are basically the same thing operating under different aesthetics and definitions of terms.",,Anonymous,1503107714070.jpg,BY8G2UsrBGqir7hoBQiYoA==,US,,1506901613 143613843,143632103,2017-10-01 23:47:55,">>143631762 >society and nation are not the same things Sure. >This is isolationism. Try harder. It's not isolationism. Is Japan isolationist? >Strawman harder, kike faggot. Strawman harder, kike faggot. >How retarded do you think people are? You're the retarded one that wants the government to control and manipulate markets like fucking China does.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901675 143613843,143632107,2017-10-01 23:47:58,">>143631958 Any studies that back up that negative correlation with production? Because everything I'm finding so far shows that production increased substantially in the late 1900's during the heyday of the union era. Oh right, you don't have stats or supporting evidence, because you are a shill. GTFO faggot, we are on to (((you)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901678 143613843,143632109,2017-10-01 23:48:00,">>143631496 >We do not trust a dictators sworn loyalty that he will serve our people and maintain our property. NatSoc doesn't tell you to. The NatSoc dictator forces the people to be active in serving themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901680 143613843,143632206,2017-10-01 23:49:27,">>143631896 >Wow that's beautiful, I've been curious of what capitalism that includes utmost domestic national interest and direct prohibition of race mixing would look like. early america was exactly that see: >>143614632 the only places in early america where racemixing was legal was because it was considered ""too disgusting and undesireable to necessitate law being made""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901767 143613843,143632239,2017-10-01 23:49:49,"Why do the (((right wing))) socialists in this thread get so fucking butthurt when actual free markets are tried and are very very successful for people? Look at Switzerland, look at New Zealand. Free markets saved their countries and people in those countries have extremely high living standards. They're not even pure free markets, just the most free market of all of the countries that exist today. If they abolished central banking they would be even more rich. National socialists want whites to be poor and not own property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901789 143613843,143632279,2017-10-01 23:50:20,">>143630837 >>143631536 People of different stocks have a natural propensity for different subjects. White people, while being adept at pretty much everything from technology to music, do not feel comfortable to be the driving force behind social justice. Thus, when you declare social justice the order of the day, it's quite natural that it's (((them))) who jump on this bandwagon first to offer their ""assistance"". Remove social justice from the government, disband it completely and start talking about the white man in a plain and straightforward way: (((they))) will get themselves exposed and scurry away in fear, because to them that subject is like garlic to vampires.",,Anonymous,1359576206112.jpg,mRA7d50g6P62hlbkIkFdVA==,,,1506901820 143613843,143632338,2017-10-01 23:51:10,">>143632109 >forces the people to be active in serving themselves. So the dictator is the central planner? Yeah thats plain old socialism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506901870 143613843,143632353,2017-10-01 23:51:16,">>143632107 >Because everything I'm finding so far shows that production increased substantially in the late 1900's during the heyday of the union era. Late 1900s? Like the 70s-2000? Lmao you mean the period where unions destroyed manufacturing in america? In the late 1800s unions had very little power(they were just loud) and economic production was ginormous.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506901876 143613843,143632461,2017-10-01 23:52:50,">OH NO WE CAN'T HAVE A FREE MARKET >WE DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE SWITZERLAND OR NEW ZEALAND",,Anonymous,1488303109572.jpg,mvcU6z3TL5T1vHjmHYnMHg==,,,1506901970 143613843,143632552,2017-10-01 23:53:58,">>143632103 >Sure. If you're not aware of the differences it's because you're a NEET who hasn't left the nest. >Is Japan isolationist? Not really, they allow a fair few immigrants in. >Strawman harder, kike faggot. Nobody said shit about the government owning property. Strawman harder, kike faggot. >You're the retarded one that wants the government to control and manipulate markets like fucking China does. A government is obligated to do what's in the people's best interest. Failing to do so makes it tyrannical and justifies unrest. You want the markets to be controlled and manipulated by capitalists whose first obligation is to their own profits.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902038 143613843,143632557,2017-10-01 23:54:03,"so how does nationalist Capitalism protect against (((banks))) and against the military industrial complex? If the idea is to create Wealth for the nation, the Military Industrial Complex seems like the ultimate yet totally within the guidlines corruption of that. it creates wars and war jobs to 'create wealth"" """"""""for the nation""""""""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902043 143613843,143632660,2017-10-01 23:55:10,">>143632338 Stop using words that you don't understand. Seriously, just go read some shit and then debate afterwards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902110 143613843,143632769,2017-10-01 23:56:27,I was natcap before any of u were,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902187 143613843,143632946,2017-10-01 23:58:42,">>143632552 >If you're not aware of the differences it's because you're a NEET who hasn't left the nest. lmao I KNOW for a fact I work harder than you faggot >Not really, they allow a fair few immigrants in. Extremely tiny amount compared to the west, but that's not my point. Simply restricting immigration is not isolationism, it's a part of nationalism. >A government is obligated to do what's in the people's best interest. But it CAN'T and doesn't do these things. Governments are corrupt by their very nature and need to be controlled and limited. >You want the markets to be controlled and manipulated by capitalists Hell fucking yes I do. I want the market to be controlled by SOCIETY, every individual actor in the economy is a capitalists and participates in capitalism. I want the consumer to decide things. I want people to decide what they do with their money. >whose first obligation is to their own profits. GOOD!!!! They get those profits from serving society. Only in a corrupt corporatism system like exists in modern america do profits come from fucking over society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506902322 143613843,143632988,2017-10-01 23:59:19,">>143632557 >so how does nationalist Capitalism protect against (((banks))) and against the military industrial complex? By abolishing central banking, That is legit the most important thing. Let there be countless banks all competing with each other.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506902359 143613843,143633009,2017-10-01 23:59:32,Here's I do natcap boys. Take capitalism. Take nationalism. Smash together. Make sure no socialist fascist economic theft bullshit gets in but some parts like anti degeneracy and a military culture are ok. Also physical removal of commies and socialists and Jews and others. And there you go done.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902372 143613843,143633033,2017-10-01 23:59:47,">>143632660 You got blown the fuck out on every dumb ""argument"" you half-baked. Don't even try to play 2smart4u on me you dumb comunist.",,Anonymous,WernerGoldberg.jpg,srdhoiyQ708cvke8ULx2bg==,US,,1506902387 143613843,143633052,2017-10-01 23:59:59,"BAN SOCIALIST POLITICAL PARTIES WRITE IT INTO THE CONSTITUTION",,Anonymous,,,,,1506902399 143613843,143633136,2017-10-02 00:01:00,">>143633052 God bless you patriot.",,Anonymous,FLAG.png,EUJOMw6LPoCea23pmA/Eqg==,US,,1506902460 143613843,143633203,2017-10-02 00:01:50,">>143633136 Ban social democratic ones too, ban corporatist ones as well. Have a highly detailed complex constitution that lays out economic freedom as a right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506902510 143613843,143633213,2017-10-02 00:01:56,">>143632946 Nah, you overreached >>143632239 You're welcome for the (you)'s, be more subtle next time.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902516 143613843,143633286,2017-10-02 00:02:52,"Y'all seen Le Ethnonationalist Man take down Sasse? It's breddy gud, with some great historical arguments for the proto-White Nationalism that America was founded on: https://altright.com/2017/10/01/the-passion-of-ben-sasse/",,Anonymous,le_ethnonationalist_faec.jpg,4u4klVqDODGOgJKKmU7Xag==,,,1506902572 143613843,143633636,2017-10-02 00:06:50,"I'm completely on board with the cultural aspect of the movement, but I am a little confused about the economic side. How would the state involve itself in global free trade without massively interfering with free transactions? Our globalist system is continued because massive multinational cartels exploit government regulations in order to kill off smaller businesses. Slapping a ""national"" logo on socialism doesn't fix the fundamental problem. Just look at South America. Every socialist shithole that had a person engaging in ""state capitalism"" was markedly worse, and a nation like Chile, where Pinochet fucked off and let the markets do their thing, experienced massive success. In other words, what is the economic structure of NatCaps aside from the very physical removal of leftists?",,Anonymous,9u40h5ywm48y (1).jpg,jzwCvKFSa8Ev72xSE319Og==,US,,1506902810 143613843,143633647,2017-10-02 00:06:54,">>143633033 I don't like sealclubbing people who are this >>143631906 autistic. You are literally asking how multi-billionaires who own huge corporations ""get the capital"" to bring immigrants into the country. And how cheaper labor saves them money. You think I switched the subject to someone else because you're a retarded newfag who hasn't figured out how greentext works.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902814 143613843,143633689,2017-10-02 00:07:23,">>143632557 Central banking needs to be seriously looked at and reigned in at a minimum. It does have uses, but I can't personally say for sure if they are worthwhile or not. I'm sure there are people much more educated on the specifics. >finance major guy The amount of horseshitting about that goes on with the money supply boggles the mind. If everyone in the country gained a basic understanding overnight of how much fiat currency is manipulated there would be a bank run tomorrow. The military industrial complex is a problem, but not entirely negative. Having a strong military was never a bad thing, but wasting money on F-35 tier projects is unacceptable. Actually fighting a war is a huge economic drain, interventionism needs to end. You also wind up with a lot of great technology from the military as well, our internet and the GPS system for example. NASA is better at this however, tons of the technology we use today came out of the space missions, some funding should be split from the military and go there if anything, a small percentage would give NASA all the resources is needs to accomplish all our glorious space colonization goals. Mars mission when? >>143632552 >Is Japan isolationist? >Not really, they allow a fair few immigrants in. lol",,Anonymous,1503118725147.jpg,mPffGvjKCv9xPVThx4p9Dg==,US,,1506902843 143613843,143633709,2017-10-02 00:07:45,">>143615044 >That thread belongs on /leftypol/ You belong on >>>/r/eddit Shlomo.",,Anonymous,natural-allies.jpg,7+KxGMt05B0mILoTRcugeA==,,,1506902865 143613843,143633748,2017-10-02 00:08:15,">>143613843 Capitalism is a way for the kikes to cuck you. Literally how is ""national capitalism"" any different than the current Republican platform of corporatist cuckservativism? It's still divisive, just call the movement what it's always been called, White Nationalism. Despite the facts I pointed out above, I don't give a shit where you stand economically. If you're about saving the white race, you've got my back and I've got yours.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506902895 143613843,143633784,2017-10-02 00:08:47,>national capitalism,,Anonymous,national-capitalism.jpg,3jwHDJqmm7Wv2nXAiwqLiA==,,,1506902927 143613843,143633800,2017-10-02 00:09:02,">>143633748 He literally explains it right here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulqBb4JePuQ",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902942 143613843,143633801,2017-10-02 00:09:03,">>143633689 There's a few million foreigners there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506902943 143613843,143633960,2017-10-02 00:11:08,">>143632988 >>143633689 t. finance major guy What you would get with total deregulation is an immense buy up of all the small banks by the largest ones, and the big ones would just leverage the hell out of everything until they imploded, then file bankruptcy and walk away. Central banking does need changing though.",,Anonymous,1503103741499.jpg,A3A+V67RsiyTyiV1Psg7kQ==,US,,1506903068 143613843,143634014,2017-10-02 00:11:44,">>143632552 >Not really, they allow a fair few immigrants in. Not only do they accept a fairly minuscule amount of immigrants (mostly Western ones), they also demand full cultural assimilation, namely, to take Japanese names instead of foreign ones. I know the same practice exists in Iceland.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903104 143613843,143634077,2017-10-02 00:12:26,">>143633286 >Le Ethnonationalist Man He's anti-ethnostate for Europeans, pro-ethnostate for Israel. Search some of the threads critical of him, he's constantly speaking against ethnostate in favor of Pan-Europeanism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903146 143613843,143634192,2017-10-02 00:13:51,">>143634077 I'm in favor of Pan-Europeanism too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903231 143613843,143634205,2017-10-02 00:13:59,">>143613843 This is a movement I can get behind. Thanks anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903239 143613843,143634211,2017-10-02 00:14:01,">>143634014 Not few enough to consider them isolationist. You can't really even get away with being isolationist in the current state of things, unless you go the Norks' route lol",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903241 143613843,143634239,2017-10-02 00:14:23,">>143633636 Free markets with ample protectionism to prevent >massive multinational cartels exploiting government regulations in order to kill off smaller businesses Trying to get close to Chile without allowing for globalism to run over the nation. There is a discord by the way. Shameless shilling: BTJ4xx",,Anonymous,1503104100930.jpg,bXn//HnhCqXnZqAE9c+e+Q==,US,,1506903263 143613843,143634275,2017-10-02 00:14:43,">>143633213 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903283 143613843,143634296,2017-10-02 00:14:58,">>143633689 the whole problem with the MIC is that while war is a drain, peace is worse. if there's peace, you don't make money. you cant sell jets and bombs, or fund creation of new weapons. It's a drain for the national economy, but not for defense contractors and the military industrial sector, the guys that build tanks and armored vehicles and guns.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903298 143613843,143634385,2017-10-02 00:16:19,(((National Capitalism))): https://youtu.be/5k5lGYZRFmI,,Anonymous,,,,,1506903379 143613843,143634400,2017-10-02 00:16:36,">>143634275 Correct",,Anonymous,1498074164006.jpg,/+An7BP0UpEm60/LNeW+kg==,US,,1506903396 143613843,143634422,2017-10-02 00:16:57,">>143633748 >Capitalism is a way for the kikes to cuck you. >DUDE IF YOU HAVE ECONOMIC FREEDOM IT MEANS YOU GET JEWED Why can't you faggots actually have a real argument? You're just commie cucks. >Literally how is ""national capitalism"" any different than the current Republican platform of corporatist cuckservativism? >no central banks >no welfare >no corporatism >no wars for israel >no massive government spending >socialist and democratic political parties are banned >living standards actually rise instead of going down >price fall instead of rise Many things.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903417 143613843,143634446,2017-10-02 00:17:14,">>143634385 It's just a name, like National SOCIALISM.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903434 143613843,143634475,2017-10-02 00:17:41,">>143633784 What a great argument you stupid fucking kike. >if you are against the federal reserve you are a jew LOL",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903461 143613843,143634556,2017-10-02 00:18:33,this so dumb. it is just simply some retarded move to re-brand national socialism so you don't have to use the word socialism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903513 143613843,143634587,2017-10-02 00:18:51,">>143633960 >What you would get with total deregulation is an immense buy up of all the small banks by the largest ones bullshit, during the american period of free banking, there was countless banks, the banking industry was huge, there were countless firms competing with each other >and walk away. How could they walk away, they would be liable for all of those loses. This is a free market, not corporatism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903531 143613843,143634607,2017-10-02 00:19:07,">>143633647 Show me a man with wealth he does not deserve and I will show you a man who received special aid from the state wether by subsidy or by actually being in goverment positions or having friends and family in those positions and recieving favors from them. you have yet to explain how someone attains such wealth without already having a workforce and/or now for some reason needs their workforce to be brown. even though there isn't a minumum wage for him to cheat or labor unions to compete with and how is it an economic power move to fire their quality white workers ship a bunch of niggers over in exchange for their capital, so that you can train and employ them. its not profitable, plus its not like the niggers are allowed to be citizens anyway. why do they want to come? we dont do gibsmedats.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903547 143613843,143634727,2017-10-02 00:20:32,">>143634400 Glad you admit you lost senpai.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903632 143613843,143634764,2017-10-02 00:20:52,">>143634192 Then you're the opposite of an ethnonationalist. A lot of people don't seem to realize what ""ethno-nationalism"" actually is. It's normie-tier, pre-EU style European states. Most people really mean ""racial nationalism"" when they say ""ethno-states"", but ethnicity =/= race. Ethno-states aren't pan-European.",,Anonymous,aryan_race.jpg,QJ0Y1DImJ+08WAS40GJt1Q==,,,1506903652 143613843,143634767,2017-10-02 00:20:57,">>143633709 My brother right here. the jews don't like when both natsoc and lolbertarians both turn on the jew.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903657 143613843,143634787,2017-10-02 00:21:10,">>143633748 >Capitalism is a way for the kikes to cuck you. But the same goes for socialism and state capitalism, and to a much larger extend. The problem with kikes is that they jump on the bandwagon of social justice whenever they're given a chance. And if you declare social justice the main IDEOLOGY of your nation, it's no wonder that they occupy the whole info field: it's just their natural propensity. Disband social justice, remove it completely and ""name the White"": those kikes won't find a place in the new paradigm",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903670 143613843,143635030,2017-10-02 00:24:01,">>143634607 >Show me a man with wealth he does not deserve and I will show you a man who received special aid from the state wether by subsidy or by actually being in goverment positions or having friends and family in those positions and recieving favors from them. No, because this isn't related to the point. >you have yet to explain how someone attains such wealth without already having a workforce and/or now for some reason needs their workforce to be brown. Because ""without already having a workforce"" is a fucking retarded question, and ""needs their workforce to be brown"" was already answered in the original fucking point, but you're a dunce. CHEAPER LABOR. >why do they want to come? Africa is shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903841 143613843,143635138,2017-10-02 00:25:21,">143634727 If you wanted to win you should've been more careful. Now you're all out of (you)'s",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903921 143613843,143635193,2017-10-02 00:25:55,">>143634475 >Gadsden flag You are the original libtard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506903955 143613843,143635212,2017-10-02 00:26:10,">>143634422 it says right in the OP there will be business welfare for lazy Americans who can't compete.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506903970 143613843,143635346,2017-10-02 00:28:05,">>143635030 You think the niggers want to move to a faraway land were they can never be citizens or own land so they can work for less than the white workers who already work for cheap af. Is this accurate to your claim? its too dumb to take seriously.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506904085 143613843,143635365,2017-10-02 00:28:18,">>143632353 Manufacturing actually doesn't decrease domestically until the mid 90's. This coincides with the enactment of Clinton's free trade policies and union-busting measures. But of course you would support those liberal policies because you are owned by (((them)))",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904098 143613843,143635409,2017-10-02 00:28:48,">>143634767 When I first became a Libertarian, it was from reading Hoppe. I skipped a lot of the Jewish thinkers. Probably made my transition to Natsoc easier. In Natsoc, ""socialism"" only means ""racial nationalism"", not something economic. Economically, they were Keynsean, because they rejected the Marxist premise that ""economic class is the fundamental engine of history"". They thought race and society was the foundation, not economics. Jews obviously can't deal with that, because it means they need to go to Israel and stay put.",,Anonymous,Goran-Rosenberg.jpg,uMgmfSFA9Y0MWdubNMkeiA==,,,1506904128 143613843,143635417,2017-10-02 00:28:52,">>143635193 Good. >>143635212 Where?",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904132 143613843,143635472,2017-10-02 00:29:35,">>143635346 >its too dumb to take seriously. Do you think it means shit whether someone like you takes it seriously? It's the reality regardless. And the fact you don't have a proper reply to the point says all that needs to be said.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506904175 143613843,143635489,2017-10-02 00:29:42,">>143615044 >unironically believing that natsocs and left wing socialists are the same",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506904182 143613843,143635585,2017-10-02 00:30:50,">>143635365 >This coincides with the enactment of Clinton's free trade policies and union-busting measures. >these pathetic straw grasping excuses Face it, unions have been destroyed the economy for a while. They cause unemployment wherever they go. >But of course you would support those liberal policies because you are owned by (((them))) Free trade is good if you don't have a central bank. Free trade has lifted many nations out of poverty. You're literally a jew so of course you support unions and central banking.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904250 143613843,143635601,2017-10-02 00:31:05,">>143613843 I like this, it will get rid of the NS on our side who refuse to cooperate for the sake of the movement in regards to public image. What can I do to make sure this is successful?",,Anonymous,a1505676292147.jpg,d/Jdvn37XdgMENwgsuhLhw==,,,1506904265 143613843,143635713,2017-10-02 00:32:34,">>143635601 There's no one like that you fucking idiot. It was all a psyop to purge the Alt Right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904354 143613843,143635830,2017-10-02 00:34:12,">>143635409 I disagree with the keynsian econ regardless, but there is certanly a faction of """"national socialists"""" who do take on economic socialism. but that doesnt matter, we can have our own seperate nations, I don't want to impede on your destiny. I wish you respect mine. god bless you brother, lets stick it to these communist kikes.",,Anonymous,pol master race.png,KJvteDAeB6iZ9p0/CqQUKg==,US,,1506904452 143613843,143635848,2017-10-02 00:34:31,">>143635713 Yes there is, go and talk with anyone in NSG about it, go and talk to members of Ironmarch, Atomwaffen, and American Vanguard who refuse to take an appealing approach to match the successful image of those like Jared Taylor from Amren and ID",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904471 143613843,143635956,2017-10-02 00:35:47,">>143620238 I think we can all agree that (((they))) need to go",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506904547 143613843,143636013,2017-10-02 00:36:42,">>143635830 >there is certanly a faction of """"national socialists"""" who do take on economic socialism No, those have never actually been Natsoc. They were purged over their Communist entryism. Read Feder, no Marxist can ever be Natsoc.",,Anonymous,HITLER-vs-STRASSER-s.jpg,GFBh9B9rr07zN9v0k9qUfg==,,,1506904602 143613843,143636054,2017-10-02 00:37:11,">>143635409 Natsoc had a horrible economy and they had there first food shortage as early as 1935. Read ""The Wages of Destruction"" its a 900 page book that gives the most balanced critique of the natsoc economy",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904631 143613843,143636124,2017-10-02 00:38:12,">>143624646 no that was the jews",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506904692 143613843,143636128,2017-10-02 00:38:14,">>143636054 >Natsoc had a horrible economy and they had there first food shortage as early as 1935. >Implying capitalism didn't have food shortages https://youtu.be/_r9Z-hTn1r4",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904694 143613843,143636130,2017-10-02 00:38:14,">>143636054 >Natsoc had a horrible economy Sigh.",,Anonymous,britain_declares_war2.jpg,UsWIVHUsPv8nx5aLYgDdOw==,,,1506904694 143613843,143636262,2017-10-02 00:39:59,">>143629762 cant be a cuck if you dont fuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506904799 143613843,143636273,2017-10-02 00:40:07,">>143636130 >>143636054 Something was bound to fuck up when you have a nation full of white NEETS living off welfare",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904807 143613843,143636322,2017-10-02 00:40:49,">>143623906 You don't know what it is",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904849 143613843,143636469,2017-10-02 00:42:38,">>143635848 Come on man, keep up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506904958 143613843,143636474,2017-10-02 00:42:44,">>143636013 I agree that they are not real national socialists, but there sure are quite a few about, and they do call themselves NatSoc. these people deface your movement for us like dude-weed lefty lolbertarians ruin our movement for you. we should recognize people like us who truly care for our people in our own ways as real allies, not simply the people who claim to fly the same flag as us. NatCap/NatSoc Alliance now!",,Anonymous,1495578004503.jpg,ulDzOrwQf1zQ+9+unJ6Kfg==,US,,1506904964 143613843,143636566,2017-10-02 00:43:51,">>143613843 >>143613960 >>143619659 >>143620939 >>143626371 I love this ideology but how would a national capitalist society deal with monopolies and oligopolies? Shouldn't a natcap intervene in monopolies at the least to insure their decentralization of services between smaller companies to prevent artificial price inflation and limitation and stagnation of service and its quality? In some industries is a monopoly/oligopoly unavoidable and potentially harmful to the nationalist side of the ideology?",,Anonymous,Rick Flair.gif,pCiU3QkZbS1KY2TmYM6tpQ==,US,,1506905031 143613843,143636596,2017-10-02 00:44:16,">>143636273 >living off welfare The only welfare in Natsoc Germany consisted of employment assistance, ie, ""if you're unemployed the law says you find work, or else we will send you to a work camp for being 'anti-social'"" -- it was illegal to be unemployed. The rest was taking care of the crippled and elderly, contrary to what the latest TV shows portray. >>143636474 >but there sure are quite a few about, and they do call themselves NatSoc. Its just leftypol, pic related. Its a wedge tactic they use to try to trick natsocs and fascists into moving left. In reality, Strasser had no more than 200 followers. He wasn't even a real movement, just a poser that leeched off the NSDAP.",,Anonymous,leftypol-subversion.jpg,xy3RqPjolshy7K8RaMIfVg==,,,1506905056 143613843,143636671,2017-10-02 00:45:11,">>143636566 as long as a buisness isn't sabotaging the nation or abusing its workers why would it need to be messed with?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506905111 143613843,143636720,2017-10-02 00:45:44,">>143636130 >GDP is a good measure of economic growth The government spends money and this increases GDP. Nazi germany did a LOT of this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506905144 143613843,143636914,2017-10-02 00:48:11,">>143636596 I know they're communists. All im saying is you be NatSoc and I'll be NatCap and we'll work against the common enemy: Communists and Kikes. Unite the right, respect?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506905291 143613843,143637025,2017-10-02 00:49:44,">>143636671 True i believe in non-intervention of the government in the free market. but haven't we seen the effects already of monopolist companies that were once good and praised commit malpractice down the line? e.g. facebook, google, some automotive co., and mortgage co",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506905384 143613843,143637058,2017-10-02 00:50:10,">>143636720 >GDP is a good measure of economic growth Its a decent measure for a lot of things. For a nation smaller than Texas, to have over half the GDP of a nation as large as the US is a big achievement -- the most successful achievement of the 20th century in terms of economy. GNP also grew consistently until 1945, while it dropped in all the Allied nations. Debt as a percent of GDP was constantly falling in Germany: >Economist Henry C K Liu wrote: “The Nazis came to power in Germany in 1933, at a time when its economy was in total collapse, with ruinous war-reparation obligations and zero prospects for foreign investment or credit. Yet through an independent monetary policy of sovereign credit and a full-employment public-works program, the Third Reich was able to turn a bankrupt Germany, stripped of overseas colonies it could exploit, into the strongest economy in Europe within four years, even before armament spending began.” >In Billions for the Bankers, Debts for the People (1984), Sheldon Emry wrote: “Germany issued debt-free and interest-free money from 1935 and on, accounting for its startling rise from the depression to a world power in 5 years. Germany financed its entire government and war operation from 1935 to 1945 without gold and without debt, and it took the whole Capitalist and Communist world to destroy the German power over Europe and bring Europe back under the heel of the Bankers. Such history of money does not even appear in the textbooks of public (government) schools today.”",,Anonymous,How Hitler Tackled Unemployment and Revived Germany's Economy - Mark Weber alt.png,1GhVosCrif9pU1m1nWydZg==,,,1506905410 143613843,143637142,2017-10-02 00:51:26,">>143636671 The question is how exactly we determine what is 'sabotage'. Would youtube censoring certain users in an attempt to curb public opinion be considered sabotage?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506905486 143613843,143637150,2017-10-02 00:51:32,">>143637025 then they are sabataging the nation and subverting our people. then surely somthing must be done about it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506905492 143613843,143637264,2017-10-02 00:52:55,">>143637142 heres a metric for you: are the censoring communists? no problem! Are they promoting communism? get rid of them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506905575 143613843,143637307,2017-10-02 00:53:22,">>143637264 Good enough for me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506905602 143613843,143637333,2017-10-02 00:53:43,">>143636596 >The only welfare in Natsoc Germany consisted of employment assistance, ie, ""if you're unemployed the law says you find work, or else we will send you to a work camp for being 'anti-social'"" -- it was illegal to be unemployed They had literally the same thing in the Soviet Union, though",,Anonymous,,,,,1506905623 143613843,143637421,2017-10-02 00:54:51,">>143637333 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitism_(social_offense)#Soviet_Union",,Anonymous,,,,,1506905691 143613843,143637637,2017-10-02 00:57:23,">>143634422 Ok but do you see what you're doing? Now is not the time for a brother war over economics. Now is the time to unite and save our people before it's too late. Don't put one more ounce of thought or breath into economics, we'll sort the small shit out once we get rid of these foreign occupations and traitorous mobs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1506905843 143613843,143637657,2017-10-02 00:57:32,">>143637333 >They had literally the same thing in the Soviet Union, though No, they had something significantly unique in the world. Most people in the West think ""welfare"" is onyl US/UK style ""living on the dole unemployed"", but Natsocs saw ""welfare"" as eliminating the conditions of poverty, meaning, you had to have a job, you had to stop being addicted to alcohol, etc. If you didn't comply, you were breaking the law -- imagine if they did that in the Anglosphere: the welfare state wouldn't survive two years after that. Pamphlets published in English by the NSDAP explaining aspects of the German system. >Social Welfare in Germany: https://archive.org/details/SocialWelfareInGermany >German Youth in a Changing World: https://archive.org/details/GermanYouthInAChangingWorld >German Economic Policy: https://archive.org/details/GermanEconomicPolcy",,Anonymous,germa_bel_natsoc_privatization.jpg,g6PwXf+qe6plwXbymrC8LA==,,,1506905852 143613843,143637902,2017-10-02 01:00:45,">>143637150 Simple enough. So when can we start organizing this glorious ideology?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506906045 143613843,143637960,2017-10-02 01:01:30,">>143637657 So, the USSR, basically",,Anonymous,,,,,1506906090 143613843,143638074,2017-10-02 01:02:49,">>143637960 >So, the USSR, basically Yeah, the USSR was all about private property and working for capitalist owners, not working on collectivised non-profit farms owned by jewish party bosses",,Anonymous,germa_bel_sales.png,In2VgZl+j1VPIlpKsPRUJQ==,,,1506906169 143613843,143638468,2017-10-02 01:07:53,">When you must secure the existence for our people and a future for white children, but you realize this is not an efficient market outcome.",,Anonymous,ancap-ball.jpg,9e3NkZipaFW6Zv+Fz2TVzQ==,,,1506906473 143958606,143958606,2017-10-03 23:48:06,"1776 and 1488. A return to the America the founders envisioned. >Libertarianism without the open borders. >Conservatism without the cucking. >National Socialism without the dictatorship. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8 What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of globalism. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else. Shameless Discord shilling: 6QmYyc",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General - Space Capitalism Edition,Anonymous,Spaceman.png,6PsEA0W6qVGObO105751Yg==,US,,1507074486 143958606,143958709,2017-10-03 23:49:03,">What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Naturalization Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been fixed. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. Shut borders, increase birthrate, problem solved nonviolently. This solution can be implemented largely without government policy or permission. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE >Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal.",,Anonymous,as17-134-20387.jpg,N6xFZLASWeF7Om+EtPxLrQ==,US,,1507074543 143958606,143958786,2017-10-03 23:49:45,">But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and creating work for all citizens regardless of demand purely to increase productivity. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm >What about Aesthetics? The American flag and our great Aesthetic must be reclaimed from marxist subversion. The United States was not created to be a nation of multicultural faggotry, it was built to be a nation of White Christians, and if you fly the flag you must support those things. Retaking the American flag forces people to consider our ideas, rather than our imagery, and will place everyone who flies the flag under suspicion of supporting our point of view. Every soccer mom and veteran that flies the flag will be considered one of us, and soon enough they will be. Links: Conceived in White Nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE This link mentions ‘civic nationalism’ a single time, just ignore it because the rest is good. http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ Basic political position: https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html Original NSDAP economic plan, read this and compare it to the modern definition of ‘socialism’. http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm Hispanic Birthrate Decline: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html",,Anonymous,photo-1446941303752-a64bb1048d54-e1478708005998.jpg,VYbJDGpmhIYi45daX3l/Cw==,US,,1507074585 143958606,143959277,2017-10-03 23:54:46,">>143958606 What you're describing sounds extremely similar to the ideas of the American school of economics. Why not just call it 'Americanism?'",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507074886 143958606,143959488,2017-10-03 23:56:53,">>143959277 Because then they can't larp as natsocs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507075013 143958606,143960090,2017-10-04 00:02:59,">>143959488 That's what I would've guessed. It's disappointing, really. I mean, the American school is proto-National Socialism. We really ought to embrace that instead of trying to revive a brand that's not only dead, but was only meant for Germany.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507075379 143958606,143960127,2017-10-04 00:03:22,"Keep doing these. This and SIG are the two comfiest generals. In the end, profit and progress can go together to advance our country and people while making the individual and the populous prosperous.",,Anonymous,1493168637736.jpg,Iidi/O1csSyE+utEoHLweg==,US,,1507075402 143958606,143960399,2017-10-04 00:06:21,">>143959277 Because this includes the recognition of race. American school of economics is not the wrong description concerning economics, it is just missing the race question. All the old forms of American politics failed to recognize race because it was implicit, there wasn't any need to. UltraNationalism, American Nationalism, and Americanism are all correct. Hell, even paleoconservatism is technically accurate. The problem is that all these labels are hijacked by neocon scum that buy into the subverted modern view of the nation that is pushed in our schools and media. Of course they are wrong, but a new label creates distance.",,Anonymous,1501708599653.jpg,LdtiLVsk0EAvqDXOlODAHQ==,US,,1507075581 143958606,143960810,2017-10-04 00:10:02,">>143960399 I can get behind that",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507075802 143958606,143961671,2017-10-04 00:18:25,"The important thing to remember here is that NatCap philosophy actually has real achievable goals that can undo the damage multiculturalism has created. It starts with boosting white birthrates using regular mainstream conservative tax fuckery. Then it dismantles the welfare state and forces us to become dependent on our neighbors, family and community. All of this creates an in group dynamic, and that in group dynamic creates the sense of identity that whites have lost.",,Anonymous,angel-of-liberty1-2-copy.jpg,ovz+4M1kLB2eyQUeJ2bF2w==,US,,1507076305 143958606,143961842,2017-10-04 00:20:11,">>143958606 >Capitalism >(((National Socialism))) without the dictatorship. LMFAO you are a fucking braindead",,Anonymous,ancap dont tread on me flag dtom.png,d30h19xd7Yc1XAsfxnsm8Q==,,,1507076411 143958606,143962073,2017-10-04 00:22:24,">>143961842 I do like the idea of National Capitalism though. Should be titled ""National libertarianism"" Though. Drop the national socialist bullshit. Why even mention it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507076544 143958606,143963579,2017-10-04 00:37:27,">>143962073 Because the enormous majority of American Natsocs are not socialists at all. The are only National Socialists because nobody else addresses race. Whenever you ask Natsocs about 'socialism' you get two different answers. >The NSDAP only used the 'socialist' label to appeal to communists in Wiemar Germany >The Natsoc definition of socialism is different to the modern term Both of which are fine and legitimate responses, but then when Right Libertarians and Natsocs debate, they are more concerned with semantics than policy. This is why Right Libertarians and Natsocs get along so well, because they are not arguing policy, they are arguing over definitions. You can see this with George Rockwell, the man only became a Natsoc because the rest of the 'conservatives' refused to address the issues. He, like modern Natsocs, only call themselves that because regular conservatives avoid the race debate like the plague. NatCap refuses to let conservatives avoid the issue, because the goal is to reclaim the flag. When this happens, the conservatives cannot disavow the issue based on aesthetics.",,Anonymous,1503107272558.jpg,LGMwoBoohqmw9YT95b9Qcg==,US,,1507077447 143958606,143963649,2017-10-04 00:38:14,">>143962073 >>143961842 >LMFAO Just keep your opinions to yourself.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507077494 143958606,143964409,2017-10-04 00:46:40,">>143961842 >>143962073 if an entire group of nazis got into a contract like a HOA libertarians would not stop them",,Anonymous,,,,,1507078000 143958606,143964499,2017-10-04 00:47:45,">>143958606 you just described national socialism as practised in Hitler Germany -which was, granted, pretty fucking far from any sort of actual socialism. original national socialism, as laid out by Drexler and the Strassers, is what people nowadays refer to as national bolschevism. so, there's that.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1507078065 143958606,143965989,2017-10-04 01:03:24,">>143963579 That makes a lot of fucking sense actually.",,Anonymous,1505425750520.jpg,pQ/USYeeSE9QNFc55IsDJQ==,US,,1507079004 143958606,143969233,2017-10-04 01:38:27,">>143958606 I see the shills have given up on ""anti-nazi general"" and are trying something more subtle with this ""PRCuck general"". I think it's a good approach, since PR Cucking was always more popular on cuckpol. Lots of teenagers too nervous to be caught ""being nazis"" by their parents, and delusional enough to think ""National Capitalism"" doesn't sound obviously like ""I'm a National Socialist trying to sound like I'm not"". >1776 and 1488 14/88 literally means ""14 words, Heil Hitler"" so you're still promoting National Socialism, you stupid fucks. You didn't even look up what 14/88 means.",,Anonymous,glr swastika argument.png,iP/Ol6xkahhfsTAQunQQyQ==,US,,1507081107 143958606,143969431,2017-10-04 01:40:39,">>143964499 >original national socialism, as laid out by Drexler and the Strassers Was ""original national socialism"" you dumb fuck, it was just ""leftist sociaism"". Natsoc came from Feder and Hitler. God damn this whole board is just shills and gullible idiots now. It's like an orgy of cucks and cowards.",,Anonymous,HITLER-vs-STRASSER-s.jpg,GFBh9B9rr07zN9v0k9qUfg==,US,,1507081239 143958606,143969547,2017-10-04 01:42:04,">>143964499 >original national socialism, as laid out by Drexler and the Strassers Wasn't ""original national socialism"" you dumb fuck, it was just ""leftist sociaism"". Natsoc came from Feder and Hitler. God damn this whole board is just shills and gullible idiots now. It's like an orgy of cucks and cowards",,Anonymous,HITLER-vs-STRASSER-s.jpg,GFBh9B9rr07zN9v0k9qUfg==,US,,1507081324 143958606,143969608,2017-10-04 01:42:39,">>143969233 >>143969431 >>143969547 >being this tryhard NatCap is the future of this board, just wait",,Anonymous,National Capitalism vs National Socialism.jpg,gfYDVGzWkaILXGUXDQcyJA==,US,,1507081359 143958606,143969794,2017-10-04 01:44:42,">when you want to have a libertarian capitalist economic system within your own country, while also defending your culture and race, and telling foreigners to fuck-off or get MOAB'd.",,Anonymous,fascist snekism.png,p6fMCP4qI4DEcItDTPnaVA==,,,1507081482 143958606,143969818,2017-10-04 01:45:01,Capitalism was a mistake. Even the NatSocs are better than you,,Anonymous,,,,,1507081501 143958606,143969970,2017-10-04 01:46:57,">>143969608 nazis are only nazis cause they don't know economics",,TPM,,,,,1507081617 143958606,143970301,2017-10-04 01:50:43,">>143969794 Join the ranks of hoppe's followers friend, physically remove communists and democrats from america https://youtu.be/zc48cJWJxQs",,TPM,demcracy as asylum.png,/BYjw+Ct+2Vmjfnuspn3aA==,,,1507081843 143958606,143970312,2017-10-04 01:50:47,">>143969818 Says the communist. How many people died under that ideology during the 20th century? 100 million was it? Go be an edgelord somewhere else about how REEEEL SOSHALIZAM has never been tried.",,Anonymous,1501710015174.jpg,1I48EpGqcAjOlecQqqvuIw==,US,,1507081847 143958606,143970434,2017-10-04 01:52:06,">>143969818 literally why be a commie?",,TPM,,,,,1507081926 143958606,143970454,2017-10-04 01:52:18,">>143961842 >>(((National Socialism))) without the dictatorship. How the fuck can capitalism be socialism you stupid retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507081938 143958606,143970546,2017-10-04 01:53:25,">>143958606 Capitalism cannot be national, it is a universal, globalist system, it simply cannot exist within a nation state.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507082005 143958606,143970637,2017-10-04 01:54:21,It's more likely for USA to go under than Jews to fail. Jews are stronger than USA.,,Anonymous,,,,,1507082061 143958606,143970639,2017-10-04 01:54:21,">>143970454 hitler went the fascist way of it, let industry do as it may while protecting the people from harmful practices, socialism cause he did shit like give money to mothers and funded child welfare and shit like that",,TPM,Whynostate.jpg,MvDFMst4BQ8Rf28tBjwMxA==,,,1507082061 143958606,143970764,2017-10-04 01:55:48,">>143970637 thats whats gonna happen, soon enough, that bubble is big after all",,TPM,1495301153982.png,lxVBIIm9k1lWMZBwkFGfYg==,,,1507082148 143958606,143970903,2017-10-04 01:57:24,">>143970434 Why any American would be a filthy commie. Because they're fucking losers in life, have probably never held a real job, or have rich parents and have no clue how fucking economics works in reality. So they cling to a failed turd of an economic philosophy that their college professors pushed on there gullible brains, so they can feel apart of some better ""collective"" then being the miserable shitstain failure of a human they really are deep down. In other words what Trump calls people such as them. LOSERS",,Anonymous,Ronald Reagan on Communism.jpg,10M0ERiw7a66egSjwm91/A==,US,,1507082244 143958606,143971219,2017-10-04 02:00:53,">>143970903 well said, let it not be forgotten though, these losers are the ones that will always start sudden violent uprisings once their numbers swell sufficently",,TPM,1504558712076.png,sqVNc269WY8fRdE/sHFAvg==,,,1507082453 143958606,143971672,2017-10-04 02:06:06,">>143958606 Are you the dude who was on Molyneux's show talking about very similar ideas?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507082766 143958606,143971993,2017-10-04 02:10:23,">>143970546 Capitalism does not care if you choose it or not, it is a constant outside of your control. Saying you can simply choose Socialism over Capitalism is no different than claiming that you can circumvent hierarchy through social justice. No matter how hard you try it is always going to be there at some level. The Soviet Union still had to compete with other nations when it exported things, participating in Capitalism on a global scale. This is why Communists and Socialists are delusional utopians, the only way the system will work is if competition itself is removed from economics and all people agree on the distribution of labor and products. However, like hierarchy, you can understand Capitalism and fight to claim the highest position. Denying that the hierarchy or Capitalism exists is going to put you at the bottom.",,Anonymous,1506480606662.jpg,iVUBjB8l7Vy/u7fAV25Z1Q==,US,,1507083023 143958606,143972587,2017-10-04 02:17:38,"Fight for a white America. >1433",,Anonymous,vintage-american-flag-children.jpg,pKbzIzyZrBNgBAVD4+e7/w==,US,,1507083458 143958606,143972943,2017-10-04 02:21:54,,,Anonymous,George Washington prayer before battle.jpg,Rs96ZyjpeHr8XMY7sO6zDQ==,,,1507083714 143958606,143973038,2017-10-04 02:23:07,">>143958709 >Multiracial societies will inevitably be >balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority Until Irish becomes the new nigger. Tribalism as a vulnerability to manipulation isn't going to just fucking go away because you got rid of the today's Them.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507083787 143958606,143973323,2017-10-04 02:26:29,">>143958606 >claim to be capitalist >open thread with a socialist NASA image",,Anonymous,,,,,1507083989 143958606,143973376,2017-10-04 02:27:11,">>143958606 Social Security helps to keep Capitalism Nationally Secure also , please stay focused , .",,Anonymous,Screen Shot 2017-10-04 at 2.24.36 AM.png,GIp+SmXDa0wPDZz8FeBUjA==,US,,1507084031 143958606,143973488,2017-10-04 02:28:34,">>143973323 The times then were tough and focus was not easy to help get going safe , please be nice , .",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507084114 143958606,143973600,2017-10-04 02:29:44,Bump with tits,,Anonymous,tiddydrop.gif,L+a18XZBMPWRemLGkwhpNg==,US,,1507084184 143958606,143973792,2017-10-04 02:31:58,"My understanding is that ""socialists"" just want a mixed economy. Very few socialists literally want government control of all institutions. That's a straw man",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507084318 143958606,143974050,2017-10-04 02:34:41,">>143958606 SUCK A DICK CAPITALIST SCUM. Your entire ideology is just half arsing natsoc half arsing """"""""""liberty"""""""""" and half arsing racialism and nationalism into a purely inferior system in all accounts of any of them. Your entire system broke down and collapsed for a reason. Keep this r/donald shit out of here. This is perfect r/donald trash bait. Well I don't like duh nazi's or dem globalists, but i love me some capitalism Go join find a /lrg/ and shove your cancerous national libertarian ideas up itself",,Anonymous,may.jpg,efOG9tWX2s7ngrZu030jsQ==,,,1507084481 143958606,143974096,2017-10-04 02:35:15,">>143969233 Fuck off infinitychan. Unironically a hugbox. I know what 1488 stands for you dumb motherfucker. Did you even read the OP or the thread? >teehee I don't have a response, better post a GLR quote >everything I don't like is prcucking >I've been to secret 8pol I'm so smart Fuck you faggot Refer here: >>143963579 >>143971672 No, but link please. Would be interested in seeing it. >>143973323 >National Capitalism Only an ancap could see that and completely miss half the name. National Capitalism is where the nation works as a unit against the world, Mercantilism and American School of Economics.",,Anonymous,7959941dab2139d01a8978415c51c5f2.jpg,pMm+4G4y9A2nNkm3SLGh/Q==,US,,1507084515 143958606,143974100,2017-10-04 02:35:18,Fndndsjrhfh,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507084518 143958606,143974831,2017-10-04 02:43:55,">>143974050 >referencing r/The_Donald NatCap is never even talked about on r/The_Donald, they don't even know about it. Stop jewing",,Anonymous,vintage-american-flag-lady-liberty1.jpg,9yb0oM+9qofTBMR32+Iwhg==,US,,1507085035 143958606,143975575,2017-10-04 02:53:04,">>143974831 Also I see you've stolen the /nsg/ op and added a few words. And you've stolen fashwave aesthetics and put it onto a government program using taxes. >Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. This entire ideology is just national libertarians which cucks out on the good parts of natsoc,ancap and whatever the fuck else along with stealing the OP and aesthetics then pretends it hasn't already been tried and failed just like Communism. It is perfect centrist trash for r/donald cucks new to /pol/ This belongs in /lrg/, since it's practically just minachism with nationalism rather then a le unique natcap. This meme of natcap came from a authoritarian general who with the backing of the CIA overthrew a democratically elected government and massively revoked citizen rights and instituted curfews and killed people he didn't agree with delete this meme of thread and make it the next /lrg/ general you see since that's what it is. Liberation and right wing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507085584 143958606,143976303,2017-10-04 03:01:09,">>143975575 You sound pretty butthurt over a new idea sprouting up on /pol/. Here's the thing. The average American will NEVER listen to someone like you rattle on about the 'international Jew' with a swastika behind you. But they WILL listen when you talk about 'stopping subversion from destroying our white christian country' with the American flag.",,Anonymous,lady-liberty-american-flag-patriotic1.jpg,019NkrVDAYnia5qBq5lp2Q==,US,,1507086069 144354613,144354613,2017-10-06 23:30:26,"1476. A return to the America the Founding Fathers envisioned. Thread for discussion of the Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, (((Central Banking))), Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8 What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of globalism. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General,Anonymous,space.png,UJ4D3MgdAojHfhU+AWhYhw==,US,,1507332626 144354613,144354668,2017-10-06 23:31:04,">>144354613 National Capitalism doesn't exist. kys.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507332664 144354613,144354686,2017-10-06 23:31:14,">But Capitalism is about profits, Nationalism is about Nation, those things can’t go together right? National Capitalism is about profits for the nation. >What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Naturalization Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been fixed. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. Shut borders, increase birthrate, problem solved nonviolently. This solution can be implemented largely without government policy or permission. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE >Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied where necessary, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal.",,Anonymous,1507268111219.png,+G7URw4Y8rXTS5l1gdth2g==,US,,1507332674 144354613,144354708,2017-10-06 23:31:29,">national capitalism Oxymoron. Free markets always leads to open borders.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507332689 144354613,144354754,2017-10-06 23:31:54,">>144354668 It's called fascism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507332714 144354613,144354787,2017-10-06 23:32:10,">But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. The enormous majority of American Natsocs are not socialists at all. The are only National Socialists because nobody else addresses race. Whenever you ask Natsocs about 'socialism' you get two different answers. >The NSDAP only used the 'socialist' label to appeal to communists in Wiemar Germany >The National Socialist definition of socialism is different to the modern term Both of which are fine and legitimate responses, but then when Right Libertarians and Natsocs debate, they are more concerned with semantics than policy. This is why Right Libertarians and Natsocs get along so well, because they are not arguing policy, they are arguing over definitions. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm >What about Aesthetics? The American flag and our great Aesthetic must be reclaimed from marxist subversion. The United States was not created to be a nation of multicultural faggotry, it was built to be a nation of White Christians, and if you fly the flag you must support those things. Retaking the American flag forces people to consider our ideas, rather than our imagery, and will place everyone who flies the flag under suspicion of supporting our point of view. Every soccer mom and veteran that flies the flag will be considered one of us, and soon enough they will be.",,Anonymous,1507267929852.jpg,fnTYdD4ygNMXXoP7QelKiQ==,US,,1507332730 144354613,144355145,2017-10-06 23:35:57,">>144354787 >The American flag and our great Aesthetic must be reclaimed from marxist subversion. >Ooga booga, hide yo wife, hide yo kidz, cuz dem marxists be rapin erryone out dere",,Anonymous,2ae4bcdf810f39ee7caebcc4175838b7f829db310dc0270a8e20137cca3a4685.jpg,eLaWKe1+k6Iha+B2f9Fbsg==,,,1507332957 144354613,144355461,2017-10-06 23:38:54,This sounds awesome! I'm glad /ncg/ is back!,,Anonymous,1507264788377.jpg,i+Nm9KXu7s0dtkJk5d3xMA==,US,,1507333134 144354613,144355852,2017-10-06 23:42:24,">>144354754 American fascism, which this country has plenty of references to.",,Anonymous,1505324487349.jpg,ps8m+B928LLA/HVGo0eq5g==,US,,1507333344 144354613,144355962,2017-10-06 23:43:19,,,Anonymous,1507003859650.jpg,uxdf0dVTM1ze35IiYPflfw==,US,,1507333399 144354613,144355976,2017-10-06 23:43:24,">>144354613 Fuck off, this forced meme is worse than Ancrap!",,Anonymous,shit thread go away.jpg,Cmd88JZw3YgN6Z8ms4vHuQ==,AU,,1507333404 144354613,144355993,2017-10-06 23:43:37,">>144354708 excellent argument for nazbol",,Anonymous,,,,,1507333417 144354613,144356082,2017-10-06 23:44:19,">>144354754 Bullshit. Do you even know what happened in Germany pre-war?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1507333459 144354613,144356155,2017-10-06 23:45:04,">>144354754 It does agree with the Fascistic philosophy of hierarchy, thus the Capitalism. There is no dictator, however, and the people are granted their freedom of speech and right to keep and bear arms. >>144355145 >All men are created equal. Did not extend to people of different races. This was implicit at the time of writing the Constitution, and explicit in the writing of the Naturalization Act of 1790. The Declaration of Independence speaks about the 'merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.'. See pic related and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE >Statue of Liberty: 'Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.' This plaque was added decades after the statue was erected by an (((Artist))). This statue is supposed to be shining a light on the rest of the world so that they can do the same things we do, not act as a light to attract every brown that decides they want to come here and get gibs.",,Anonymous,1506914303667.png,Toy682IDS8fYoZCdMgSjJA==,US,,1507333504 144354613,144356382,2017-10-06 23:47:24,"This is a forced meme, alt-lite Laura Loomer tier shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507333644 144354613,144356766,2017-10-06 23:51:01,"Explain your plan for getting the white birth rate into the 3-4 range, please. Especially without government policy or permission.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507333861 144354613,144356802,2017-10-06 23:51:22,">>144356382 How is this forced? I get excited when these pop up? I think it's a good idea.",,Anonymous,uncle-sam-4th-of-july-american-flag-vintage-postcard.jpg,mouB6G/NWzWKxxCSnrwTRQ==,US,,1507333882 144354613,144357578,2017-10-06 23:59:17,National Capitalism is just a retarded name for what a lot of us already believe. Why not use any one of the better names for it that are already well established?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507334357 144354613,144357905,2017-10-07 00:02:52,">>144354613 National Socialism is capitalist",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507334572 144354613,144358260,2017-10-07 00:06:40,">>144357578 How is National Capitalism not a better name? Why can't it be a collective banner for us?",,Anonymous,247164.jpg,45cy+Pidocib/9HiV92PLg==,US,,1507334800 144354613,144358279,2017-10-07 00:06:49,"Reminder that the America the founding fathers envisioned is what gave birth to the America we have today, so it doesn't matter how ideal things were back in that time. Recreating it successfully will simply be turning the clock back 200 years and waiting for the same result, except with worse consequences. There is only one solution and it's identified by how fervently it's rejected and condemned by TPTB",,Anonymous,1506305146016.jpg,fjbpVrMB1bXQvjMzC72bjw==,US,,1507334809 144354613,144358791,2017-10-07 00:12:21,">>144357578 What other name is not pozzed into oblivion on the race question? Conservatives, paleoconservatives, American Nationalists, Americanism, all good names, but also already associated with a completely incorrect view of the country based on lies about the Founding Fathers and their vision for the country. National Capitalism places those views under a more accurate label that hasn't yet been tainted. >I'm an American Nationalist >like the MAGApedes? No. Obligatory Discord Shilling: 6zS3Sz >>144358279 Can't you apply that same exact statement to National Socialist Germany as well? Pretty poor argument. This is not an exact recreation, it is a recreation with explicit racial policies rather than implicit ones.",,Anonymous,1507265235166.jpg,Q8U7xhgomy0S2wdsPNB2Dw==,US,,1507335141 144354613,144359547,2017-10-07 00:20:46,">>144358791 Why would it be applicable to NS Germany? They did not birth modern Germany, but rather modern Germany was built on its ruins by the selfsame foreign enemy who did the selfsame thing after the Great War. That's a mark against Hitler's war efforts, not against National Socialist doctrine or philosophy. You shouldn't abandon labels because of how they've been tainted. You should seek to clean them, and enlighten the people, as Hitler did with the Bolshevik stains on ""socialism"". The truth is on our side.",,Anonymous,1506473325641.jpg,Y5G1xasfWEmh6GHk9a9YYw==,US,,1507335646 144354613,144359638,2017-10-07 00:21:47,">>144354613 >National Capitalism General Why do you guys suck rich people's cock?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507335707 144354613,144359836,2017-10-07 00:23:55,">>144358791 Also, because I forgot to address: Just as the explicit policies set by the founding fathers on free speech and an armed citizenry, the Marxists during their subversion of your new society will steadily chip away at your explicit racial policies. For this to be prevented you have to shut out Marxist influence from society, at every single level. This is not achievable under any capitalist system.",,Anonymous,1497898212389.jpg,M5qiD7JSyfuBb7lqXjBy3A==,US,,1507335835 144354613,144360086,2017-10-07 00:26:36,">>144359836 Yes it is. You can ban socialistic/communist parties though the constitution once National Capitalism is in place.",,Anonymous,4f9707e9c24dab43278b05bd49ee330cea8a620f9d195ae9f05f677736ccc825 (1).jpg,tel09ReEfN3KxeoNv17fcg==,US,,1507335996 144354613,144360437,2017-10-07 00:30:21,">>144360086 So the Marxists won't seek to form an overt political party until they've infiltrated your society and consolidated enough to overrule the constitution entirely.",,Anonymous,1499705160081.jpg,TFyrjyamTjiAvDAA0Mv5eQ==,US,,1507336221 144354613,144360863,2017-10-07 00:34:35,">>144359547 This is so much silliness. The exact same argument applies to America and her symbolism. >Why would it be applicable to original America? They did not birth modern America, but rather modern America was built on its ideological ruins by the foreign enemy who destroyed it through Cold War subversion. >You shouldn't abandon labels because of how they've been tainted. You should seek to clean them, and enlighten the people American flag. >The truth is on our side. Yes. >>144359836 Shutting out Marxist influence is not an economic issue, it is cultural. The important point here is Nationalism, not Socialism. The definition of Socialism you are operating from is not the modern definition. Economically the National 'Socialists' were Capitalists or Mercantilists. They were not Socialists by the modern definition, they were pic related socialists, which regrettably no longer applies. You cannot argue with people using your own definitions of words. Capitalism is not a cultural system.",,Anonymous,1506232691983.jpg,5Dp2Kez110kLFuvAxkSiJg==,US,,1507336475 144354613,144360866,2017-10-07 00:34:36,"As far as I see it, national capitalism is the only ideology that can save America from the cultural Marxist shitshow it is becoming.",,Anonymous,Columbia 4.jpg,FxnXSr6paflPFkRwXWyUGw==,US,,1507336476 144354613,144360902,2017-10-07 00:35:02,another shill general,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507336502 144354613,144361319,2017-10-07 00:39:27,">>144360437 Isn't that what they're trying to do now? We're trying to stop them from doing it now and you're talking about the next time they try to pull it again?",,Anonymous,1501710015174.jpg,1I48EpGqcAjOlecQqqvuIw==,US,,1507336767 144354613,144362976,2017-10-07 00:56:45,">>144360863 Ideological ruins IS a mark against your doctrine and philosophy. It wasn't through any military defeat that Old America failed, but rather its own shortcomings, which are not foreign. And it failed long, long before the Cold War. The Civil War was the last desperate breath. As for American symbolism, I never argued for abandoning any of it over any stains. The flag should change because it's not a very good design, and it wouldn't be representative of the ideals of the new society. Capitalism is a cultural subject as much as it's an economic subject. You guys are very insistent that the economy is somehow this disconnected thing that exists separate to the rest of society when it fact it's a component of society. >The definition of Socialism you are operating from is not the modern definition. You're too eager to surrender our academics to Marxism. The only way for this definition of socialism to no longer apply is if nobody is upholding it. I am here, upholding it. Refer back to what I said about not abandoning labels but cleaning them. National Socialist Germany was not capitalist or mercantilist. It was National Socialist. What is ""capitalism"" to you?",,Anonymous,NS1.jpg,9el7rSd7QvTldLYETXjIEg==,US,,1507337805 144354613,144363155,2017-10-07 00:58:49,">>144361319 I am trying to stop them from doing it now, and in the future.",,Anonymous,1501370706378.gif,u9AoMVbYPuaMFWv1Za8ZAQ==,US,,1507337929 144354613,144363178,2017-10-07 00:59:04,">>144356766 Nobody has answered this question. D- ideology, apply yourself.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507337944 144354613,144364472,2017-10-07 01:13:32,">>144362976 >Ideological ruins IS a mark against your doctrine and philosophy. It wasn't through any military defeat that Old America failed, but rather its own shortcomings, which are not foreign. This is still such a dumb argument. Natsoc Germany had its own ideological ruins, the least of which was the total abandonment of the original economic policy when Schacht left and it was given over to Goring, who ran the economy into the ground through the modern version of socialist economic policy. I disagree strongly with the idea using different definitions of words. It leads to people being entirely unable to communicate and borders delusion. >What is ""capitalism"" to you? Free market economics. Let the market decide which products win and lose through competition. Individuals decide which products are created, and which products succeed, not the government. >>144363178 >cut welfare to reduce the number of minorities having kids >cut taxes to get White more money to have more kids >increase importance of religion to get marriage rates up Pol is already pushing a part of this cultural war. This will take off over time. There is no easy policy answer, culture is up to the people.",,Anonymous,4600422e6fda182c6b429aad2585fc30.jpg,nSocgTe7EcBEQebKwRYWxQ==,US,,1507338812 144354613,144365969,2017-10-07 01:31:03,">>144364472 Well you're certainly right that shifting economic policies represents the least of anything you'd want to call ideological ruin. But considering this doesn't tie into any of the context of my point about America, you've still not shown how it's a dumb argument. I also strongly disagree with using different definitions. Especially when one of them is rooted in Marxism. What I'm curious about is why you seem to favor that one so heavily. Perhaps because arguing against that is the only way for capitalism to be received positively. >Free market economics. Let the market decide which products win and lose through competition. Individuals decide which products are created, and which products succeed, not the government. Immediately, then, trying to apply this to NS Germany is dishonest. But I'll go through it still. It is not the market deciding anything. It's individuals, as you said. Claiming the market decides implies that it has its own motives and objectives, when the reality is that there is no invisible hand, and it's just a perpetual struggle between the selfish motives and objectives of millions of individuals. Selfish, because there's other parts to capitalism that you're leaving out. The decision isn't only about which products win or lose, but also which people ""win"" or ""lose"". You can claim there'll be government programs to assist those unemployed but as long as you're following this model that assistance only extends as far as there are actual jobs available in the ever-fluctuating market.",,Anonymous,NS2.jpg,x0OWsWwlGxbWNqyMMpIFZA==,US,,1507339863 144354613,144366128,2017-10-07 01:32:44,Another delusional wackjob,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507339964 144354613,144367868,2017-10-07 01:54:46,">>144364472 Brother, it's closing in on 1 in the morning where I am so I've gotta turn in. If you want to continue, stop by an /nsg/ tomorrow and repost this, I'll probably see it as long as it doesn't get to reply limit too fast. Or if this thread manages to survive through the morning I'll just carry on here.",,Anonymous,NS3.jpg,ADtjjggflKWplfCHZleDzQ==,US,,1507341286 144354613,144368896,2017-10-07 02:08:58,">>144367868 That's fine by me, will probably take you up on that. This would be much easier through voice. We agree far more than we disagree, even if you don't see it. I went away for a bit and came back. Trying to give you quality rather than quantity. Might just dump my answer tomorrow.",,Anonymous,7362f1b0e4e617d5b2fac771136518011a1b43fca32491b3e01e91c2ab1f5fd2.jpg,1by1PNJfLSI/6lW8zpgD3A==,US,,1507342138 145310506,145310506,2017-10-14 19:56:51,"1776 and 1488. A return to the America the founders envisioned. >Libertarianism without the open borders. >Conservatism without the cucking. >National Socialism without the dictatorship. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8 [Embed] What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of globalism. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else. Shameless Discord shilling: 6QmYyc",/ncg/ National Capitalism General,Anonymous,Spaceman.png,6PsEA0W6qVGObO105751Yg==,,,1508011011 145310506,145310592,2017-10-14 19:57:53,">What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Naturalization Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been fixed. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. Shut borders, increase birthrate, problem solved nonviolently. This solution can be implemented largely without government policy or permission. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE [Embed] >Don’t we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal.",,Anonymous,Spaceman 2.jpg,N6xFZLASWeF7Om+EtPxLrQ==,,,1508011073 145310506,145310629,2017-10-14 19:58:18,">But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and creating work for all citizens regardless of demand purely to increase productivity. ‘National Socialists’ should be calling themselves ‘National Capitalists’ If you don’t believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm >What about Aesthetics? The American flag and our great Aesthetic must be reclaimed from marxist subversion. The United States was not created to be a nation of multicultural faggotry, it was built to be a nation of White Christians, and if you fly the flag you must support those things. Retaking the American flag forces people to consider our ideas, rather than our imagery, and will place everyone who flies the flag under suspicion of supporting our point of view. Every soccer mom and veteran that flies the flag will be considered one of us, and soon enough they will be. Links: Conceived in White Nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE [Embed] This link mentions ‘civic nationalism’ a single time, just ignore it because the rest is good. http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ Basic political position: https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html Original NSDAP economic plan, read this and compare it to the modern definition of ‘socialism’. http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm Hispanic Birthrate Decline: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html",,Anonymous,,,,,1508011098 145310506,145311538,2017-10-14 20:08:54,"> attempting to lead /pol/ with some natsoc OP the problem here is u are clearly an old fool stuck in his ways. >b-but anon, how can u tell? because u are using the hollykike moon landing hoax as your natsoc pics. swallow the space-hoax red-pill then maybe u can be an OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYnIvrDlhb4",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1508011734 145310506,145311852,2017-10-14 20:12:27,">inb4 send all the Jews to Israel >based Israel!",,Anonymous,,,,,1508011947 145446126,145446126,2017-10-15 22:30:18,"1776 and 1488. A return to true America. >Libertarianism without the open borders. >Conservatism without the cucking. >National Socialism without the dictatorship. Thread for discussion of the Jewish Question, Race Realism, National Capitalism, Free and Fair Markets, Anti-Communism, Fascism, Traditionalism, Physical Removal and Ethno-Nationalism. Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUOPvtVZwo8 [Embed] What is National Capitalism? National Capitalism is the recognition that all economic activity is practiced through the reality of capitalism. One cannot choose to participate in capitalism or not, they can only modify the position they participate in capitalism from. In National Capitalism, the nation works as a unit to compete with other nations in the global free market, preventing multinational corps from running the nation into the ground in favor of profits for the international cliques. >Capitalist economic systems exist to provide private individuals with profits No, economic systems exist within the reality of capitalism. There is no 'capitalist economic system'. There is no choosing whether or not you want to be a participant in capitalism. Every time you compete in the dating game you participate in capitalism. National Capitalism is the choice to compete within capitalism as a nation rather than as an individual. Socialism is the idea that you can circumvent capitalism through the state via wealth distribution, which is going to be inefficient 100% of the time, as opposed to the state working to compete more effectively within capitalism, thereby creating more wealth. In a socialist state, steel workers will look to the state for subsidies, in a capitalist one, the state will just help those workers find more competitive jobs doing something else.",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General,Anonymous,1507527685831.png,i5KK9Ehb392RKRYa/wtxBg==,US,,1508106618 145446126,145446196,2017-10-15 22:30:53,">But Capitalism is about profits, Nationalism is about Nation, those things cant go together right? National Capitalism is about profits for the nation. POLITICAL POSITION https://www.nolanchart.com/article7878-national-capitalism-html http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ (Ignore 'civic nationalism') A good briefing that fails to mention race. Nations cannot be multiracial. >What about race? National Capitalism recognizes that real nations can only be made up of a single people. Multiracial societies will inevitably be balkanized by politicians that drive wedges between the groups, this cannot happen in a society with a single-race supermajority. America was explicitly built by Europeans, for other Europeans, as per the views of the founders and the Naturalization Act of 1790. The solution to the race problem is simple, close the borders and increase the White birthrate to 3-4 children per family until the demographics have been fixed. The Black birthrate is already below replacement, and the Hispanic birthrate is plummeting. Shut borders, increase birthrate, problem solved nonviolently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE [Embed] >Dont we already have National Capitalism right now? No, our current system is one of Globalism. International Capitalism or Globalism: A system where national sovereignty is broken down in favor of international business organizations, meant to serve business interests. Examples of this would be outsourcing, low or no tariffs, the destruction of labor unions, and open borders. National Capitalism: Sovereignty is put ahead of international organizations, tariffs are applied, and borders are closed. The nation works to out compete rival international organizations and nations, and the profits are kept within the country. In National Capitalism, materialism is not the end goal, the betterment of the nation is the end goal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508106653 145446126,145446224,2017-10-15 22:31:12,">>145446126 You fucking faggot, it already had a name. Its called Mercantilism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508106672 145446126,145446325,2017-10-15 22:32:10,">But this sounds a lot like National Socialism. It is a lot like National Socialism, because the modern understanding of Socialism is radically different from the NSDAP definition. The NSDAP would be radically capitalist by modern standards, slashing welfare programs and creating work for all citizens regardless of demand purely to increase productivity. National Socialists should be calling themselves National Capitalists If you dont believe me, read the official policy of the party here: http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm >What about Aesthetics? The American flag and our great Aesthetic must be reclaimed from marxist subversion. The United States was not created to be a nation of multicultural faggotry, it was built to be a nation of White Christians, and if you fly the flag you must support those things. Retaking the American flag forces people to consider our ideas, rather than our imagery, and will place everyone who flies the flag under suspicion of supporting our point of view. Every soccer mom and veteran that flies the flag will be considered one of us, and soon enough they will be. Video Information: Conceived in White Nationalism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7YzrbeLbJE [Embed] This link mentions civic nationalism a single time, just ignore it because the rest is good. http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ Original NSDAP economic plan, read this and compare it to the modern definition of socialism. http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/sofortprogramm.htm Hispanic Birthrate Decline: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html Discord: BTJ4xx",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508106730 145446126,145446547,2017-10-15 22:34:28,">>145446325 Invite link has expired",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508106868 145446126,145446669,2017-10-15 22:35:42,">inb4 send all Jews to Israel >based Israel! These threads are created by the TRSodomites and Andrew Anglin. They're attempting to co-opt the American Nationalist movement because the Alt-Right got BTFO.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508106942 145446126,145446764,2017-10-15 22:36:38,">>145446547 I'm literally just copy pasting an old thread.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508106998 145446126,145447291,2017-10-15 22:41:38,"Nationalist American Workers Capitalist Incumbency",,Anonymous,1487311514423.png,md2eGs0grUaqgpXbm+vMKA==,US,,1508107298 145446126,145447470,2017-10-15 22:43:14,">>145446126 >I don't understand ideology, the concept Fuck off. National Socialism is based on completely different and incompatible principles than those capitalism comes from.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508107394 145542984,145542984,2017-10-16 17:13:48,"Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator. With that said let's get this ball rolling. Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General:Physical Removal Edition,Anonymous,1504144024868.jpg,349hUf8Yd7F6ckkUCvBFug==,US,,1508174028 145542984,145544329,2017-10-16 17:25:24,"> national > HHH You proud muricans just can't accept and admit that you too are socialists cucks, right? Also, how dare you put Hoppe in this? kys boot licker",,Anonymous,,,,,1508174724 145542984,145544840,2017-10-16 17:29:42,,,Anonymous,1501128097172.png,x3DRRswmcWvs5y8joyqcnA==,US,,1508174982 145542984,145545231,2017-10-16 17:32:54,">>145544329 No Swedes or Leafs allowed in this thread!!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508175174 146074960,146074960,2017-10-21 00:07:26,"Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator. With that said let's get this ball rolling. Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General:Physical Removal Edition,Anonymous,1497503907413.png,Ojlqu3jHhFdLO/PCLvrnlA==,US,,1508544446 146074960,146075283,2017-10-21 00:11:18,>inb4 send all Jews to Israel just like they want,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508544678 146074960,146075375,2017-10-21 00:12:23,">>146075283 Whats so bad with that? Is the implication that they are just waiting for a free ride?",,Anonymous,,,,,1508544743 146074960,146075497,2017-10-21 00:13:56,">>146075283 >implying lolbertarians will ever get their small-government utopia with (((them))) usurping power and advocating for bigger government and Israeli handouts",,Anonymous,1506062219626.png,5Tfsxcu4qkUMZb69BfgzTw==,US,,1508544836 146074960,146075674,2017-10-21 00:16:17,">>146075283 They wold be easier to nike that way desu",,Anonymous,,,,,1508544977 146074960,146075702,2017-10-21 00:16:40,">>146074960 I think this is a great idea. Most importantly, libertarians and the right-wing need to unite against the JQ, because neither of their ideas will manifest without collectively fighting the enemy.",,Anonymous,1508008188050.jpg,B9nDqem7/IdRrGCeEXND9Q==,US,,1508545000 146074960,146075733,2017-10-21 00:17:04,">>146075674 ^Nuke^",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545024 146074960,146075835,2017-10-21 00:18:14,">>146075702 And then form 2 states",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545094 146074960,146075841,2017-10-21 00:18:17,">>146074960 1488 Heil Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1508545097 146074960,146075878,2017-10-21 00:18:40,">>146075375 >>146075674 neither of you have any interest in the debate because we've gone over it before and youre just shills. KYS weev.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545120 146074960,146075944,2017-10-21 00:19:27,">>146075878 Pussy sore?",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545167 146074960,146075995,2017-10-21 00:19:53,">>146075944 >not engaging in discussion keep proving me right kike.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545193 146074960,146076003,2017-10-21 00:19:58,">>146075878 Hi, CIA",,Anonymous,1499963495198.jpg,XIop1idQC8Thmhoc4rHpaQ==,,,1508545198 146074960,146076019,2017-10-21 00:20:07,">>146075878 >vehemently shilling for ""leaving those innocent jews alone!"" >calling other people shills",,Anonymous,1506099744714.jpg,mo2HO90f7qdT8jLhDdE2Tw==,US,,1508545207 146074960,146076077,2017-10-21 00:20:54,">>146075995 And you are?",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545254 146074960,146076106,2017-10-21 00:21:16,">>146074960 NS dont want capitalism. Its no different from communism, they are just the Jewish world view forced on gentiles. I mean I will be okay with lolbergs, but you would be better off leaving the capitalism shit out of the general.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545276 146074960,146076157,2017-10-21 00:21:51,">>146076019 >Zionism is based >>146076077 No one is anyone here. Defend Zionism, admit it's cancer, or go back to studying Talmud.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545311 146074960,146076180,2017-10-21 00:22:01,">>146074960 National Capitalism is literally an oxymoron. Either your national interests always come first (Nationalism), OR your profits always come first (Capitalism). The two aren't always at ends, but eventually you will have to choose between the two and therefore it is contradictory and thus an oxymoron.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545321 146074960,146076236,2017-10-21 00:22:48,">>146076180 you're using too many big words for them, anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545368 146074960,146076265,2017-10-21 00:23:07,"They always did say the libertarians are racists and Nazis... Now you are finally proving it. I can't wait until every single paultard gets doxed, hunted down, and punched in their stupid cumskin face.",,Anonymous,Ron-Paul-Nazi.jpg,bVFj18sgOzZKEjGmusNCsQ==,US,,1508545387 146074960,146076291,2017-10-21 00:23:29,">>146076106 >implying Ns is the social aspect of reform and the Libertarians are the economic influence.",,Anonymous,1494539393374.jpg,BC+N6gvUaIsbWWr5KpjdzQ==,,,1508545409 146074960,146076294,2017-10-21 00:23:31,">>146076157 Whats wrong with getting them together and nuking them its a very effective way to deal with them",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545411 146074960,146076313,2017-10-21 00:23:55,">>146076157 >implying that, after they have been expelled from our lands and their capital seized, zionism will still be a problem for whites If they cause problems during the transition, then maybe we could advocate for something a bit harsher, but, as of right now, exiling them seems fine enough.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545435 146074960,146076406,2017-10-21 00:25:09,">>146076265 >punched in the face You better shoot me commie. I dont stop once it begins",,Anonymous,1499860896715.jpg,t+lQISoLTK8pJEWbuuLZYw==,,,1508545509 146074960,146076412,2017-10-21 00:25:11,">>146076294 >claims you can't even convince people Israel is shit because of conditioning >but thinks the people will be ok with nuking israel >thinks israel wont nuke us back >what is the sampson option are you 16 years old or something? >>146076313 >implying JIDF/MOSSAD wont use social media and non-Jewish agents in world governments to do their bidding even though its what theyre doing right now wew lad",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545511 146074960,146076500,2017-10-21 00:26:23,">>146076313 I would prefer to get rid of them so ther is no chance better safe then sorry they have been expelled alot after all",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545583 146074960,146076530,2017-10-21 00:26:46,">>146076106 >they are just the Jewish world view forced on gentiles >implying you won't be forced to live under (((marxism))) if we don't band together and face the JQ anyways A temporary truce is necessary for both parties. Then we could form two states as the other anon said, and I'm sure it would be the beginning of a mutually beneficial relationship.",,Anonymous,1508132545978.png,Q19CDNhXuEkYelEOboh9VQ==,US,,1508545606 146074960,146076693,2017-10-21 00:28:34,">>146076412 They can't subvert us if they have been uprooted by the curly fro's and thrown over the Atlantic into the Mediterranean, where they belong. It will be a forceful removal. Even within the CIA. We'll create special units to sniff them out.",,Anonymous,another day in china.webm,jaOajVDZ6T2mDVXVdDmTuQ==,US,,1508545714 146074960,146076699,2017-10-21 00:28:40,">>146076412 Isreal is a little shit stain we could clear them with one large nuke and getting nuked by the jews will be worth getting rid of them",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545720 146074960,146076741,2017-10-21 00:29:13,">>146076699 Checked",,Anonymous,1508354377351.jpg,kjh8TWi4M8Uv+Evx8yqM3Q==,US,,1508545753 146074960,146076780,2017-10-21 00:29:44,">>146075283 Kill yourself Moarpheus.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545784 146074960,146076807,2017-10-21 00:29:59,">>146076699 >implying ""Israel"" doesn't control 99% of the entire Middle East, China, Russia and other large nuclear powers and these same powers will not rush in to defend Israel from the evil racist white nazis",,Anonymous,china jews.jpg,vxXnAVBCgf/K1cskcnIZig==,US,,1508545799 146074960,146076830,2017-10-21 00:30:16,">>146076780 what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545816 146074960,146076918,2017-10-21 00:31:23,">>146076807 >>>146076699 >implying israel doesnt control all our nukes >implying nuclear weapons are even real",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545883 146074960,146076927,2017-10-21 00:31:28,">>146076807 Lol russia shaked the kikes thats why the goverment dosent like them you fucktard",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545888 146074960,146076942,2017-10-21 00:31:42,">>146076830 Oh look he's playing dumb again, cute. Kill yourself Moarpheus.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545902 146074960,146077033,2017-10-21 00:32:51,">>146076927 what's an average day like for you? im amazed you can even turn on your computer to shill here.. >>146076942 i dont know what your malfunction is but im discussing geo-politics here. if youre just trying to derail the thread ill filter you. thanks.",,Anonymous,putin jew 4.jpg,ZU1UqQDXgIouBKyyjkJnQg==,US,,1508545971 146074960,146077041,2017-10-21 00:32:58,">>146076807 Chinas nukes are very limited there at india tier",,Anonymous,,,,,1508545978 146074960,146077065,2017-10-21 00:33:18,">>146076180 Larp flags will not be taken seriously",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508545998 146074960,146077085,2017-10-21 00:33:32,">>146077041 hows Russia's supply?",,Anonymous,putin globalist.jpg,UMbljZ24N1GlwTP4yxG9XQ==,US,,1508546012 146074960,146077179,2017-10-21 00:34:48,">>146077033 You don't fool me and you never will. I can see right through you, every single time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546088 146074960,146077213,2017-10-21 00:35:12,">>146077085 Do you relly think the russians would attack us becus we got rid of jews come on know faggot>>146077179",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546112 146074960,146077215,2017-10-21 00:35:14,">>146077179 filtered for failtrolling",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508546114 146074960,146077274,2017-10-21 00:35:55,"National Capitalism is the best of traditionalism, nationalism, free market, Individualism",,Anonymous,1504140899234.jpg,q4TVtVFo2oneipZ/ZyFMkw==,US,,1508546155 146074960,146077291,2017-10-21 00:36:05,">>146077179 Sorry bout last part it was an accident on mobile",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546165 146074960,146077299,2017-10-21 00:36:12,">>146076180 >nazi can't distinguish between global and national markets",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546172 146074960,146077319,2017-10-21 00:36:25,">>146077213 Russia is over-run with Jews, anon.",,Anonymous,putin jew 3.jpg,XLRBPk/+MroFGMJvDTZGxQ==,US,,1508546185 146074960,146077445,2017-10-21 00:37:41,">>146077319 Is that arabic on that? Wher did you get it celebrity jihad?",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546261 146074960,146077463,2017-10-21 00:37:55,,,Anonymous,1496177339719.png,rA46o2SkZyZ0/Z0Td8deXg==,US,,1508546275 146074960,146077524,2017-10-21 00:38:33,">>146077445 cognitive dissonance doesn't look good on you",,Anonymous,putin kike.jpg,c5VlvcVMaN5oUj1MZCy1kg==,US,,1508546313 146074960,146077580,2017-10-21 00:39:08,">>146076530 Good points anon",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508546348 146074960,146077633,2017-10-21 00:39:48,">>146077445 Go away meme flag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508546388 146074960,146077663,2017-10-21 00:40:09,">>146077299 >Meme-tier ideologues fail to realize that profit motive will never know boundaries Those who follow your proposed system and only trade within certain markets as capitalists will eventually become second-class capitalists, as those who are not bound by legal or ethical restraints like Nationalism will end up with more profits, as opportunities for greater profits will always be appearing from outside the regulated market. Profit knows no borders. >>146077065 >can't refute anything he said >I know, let's says he's larping with a flag and dismiss him You sound like a communist dismissing rational arguments by calling people fascists and using it as an excuse to ignore them and validate yourself. >mcfucking kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546409 146074960,146077717,2017-10-21 00:40:46,>>146077524ok ever assuming russia was jew ran ther self preservation instict would prevent them from pushing the button,,Anonymous,,,,,1508546446 146074960,146077780,2017-10-21 00:41:31,">>146077663 can't profit if you are nigger who only understands crime.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546491 146074960,146077825,2017-10-21 00:41:57,,,Anonymous,1498612463052.png,PFe03kzFdhs+0iI5KwhC+Q==,US,,1508546517 146074960,146077868,2017-10-21 00:42:22,">>146077717 I've shown Russia is under the control of Jews. Why is Russia based again?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508546542 146074960,146077891,2017-10-21 00:42:36,">>146077633 New fag",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546556 146074960,146077943,2017-10-21 00:43:07,">>146077780 >can't profit if you are nigger who only understands crime >vague, unspecified statements You're only proving to everyone how much of an intellectual failure you are.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546587 146074960,146077976,2017-10-21 00:43:27,">>146074960 I like the nice guy national socialist term murdoch murdoch made. its some type of implicitly libertarian national socialism. dank stuff",,Anonymous,03957210.png,H+RD8AYcnfchAKzJAY4O1g==,CA,,1508546607 146074960,146077986,2017-10-21 00:43:36,">>146077868 Im saying even if it was it wouldent matter jews are spineless cowerds",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546616 146074960,146078061,2017-10-21 00:44:28,">>146077986 They would lack the balls to push the botton",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546668 146074960,146078062,2017-10-21 00:44:29,,,Anonymous,1496343088527.jpg,WzxOo1i9qyBbnLUcrz39jQ==,US,,1508546669 146074960,146078104,2017-10-21 00:44:51,">>146077986 >Jews are risking everything to conquer and enslave the world >They are spineless cowards I'm not saying you're wrong but why underestimate the enemy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508546691 146074960,146078136,2017-10-21 00:45:16,">>146078061 mutually assured destruction",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546716 146074960,146078235,2017-10-21 00:46:24,">>146078104 Ok i will give you this piont then but other countries are ultimently irrelevant",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546784 146074960,146078276,2017-10-21 00:46:53,">>146078104 >he can't help complimenting the jews because you're a kike Get out Moarpheus.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508546813 146074960,146078288,2017-10-21 00:47:01,,,Anonymous,20155945_107357223259633_3075102217348619984_n.jpg,gTGSADYsm+V2ftVtoVbCYA==,US,,1508546821 146074960,146078307,2017-10-21 00:47:17,">>146078104 They are absolutely hellbent on enslaving all gentiles. We have to name (((them))) and work together to -- quite literally -- save the world.",,Anonymous,1506059200003.gif,Knl9IPcUthGDgt+iG5T/kw==,US,,1508546837 146074960,146078310,2017-10-21 00:47:18,">>146078235 which countries do you mean?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508546838 146074960,146078346,2017-10-21 00:47:52,">>146078307 my body is ready",,Anonymous,rwds get.jpg,LQzOsVn1mBzdMFISuxj71g==,US,,1508546872 146074960,146078364,2017-10-21 00:48:03,">>146078288 Great image, checked",,Anonymous,1505794864856.png,GtA5N+MGcsUetmTaCurOGQ==,US,,1508546883 146074960,146078521,2017-10-21 00:50:01,">>146078310 I honestly cant think of a country that would do enything worse than declare war but evean that would be unlikley as we would show our willingness to rian nuculer fire down on anyone",,Anonymous,,,,,1508547001 146074960,146078631,2017-10-21 00:51:09,">>146078307 I want to go hunting",,Anonymous,1479693385906.gif,8+1njncR2FcC9R9UcSL/5Q==,US,,1508547069 146074960,146078666,2017-10-21 00:51:30,,,Anonymous,1495517494312.jpg,FrwiHt/MbboTg+lp6DnJZQ==,US,,1508547090 146074960,146078688,2017-10-21 00:51:45,">>146078521 Probably sanctions in the typacal u.n. Fation and we would recive mass support from sand niggers",,Anonymous,,,,,1508547105 146074960,146078719,2017-10-21 00:52:04,">>146078521 Iran, North Korea, and Cuba do not have Rothschild banks. Meaning there are three Nations Israel has not subverted. We are close to war with two of those. Soon, Israel will control all Nations except Europe and America. Do you believe Europe and America can defeat all other Nations?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508547124 146074960,146078836,2017-10-21 00:53:36,">>146078719 The middle east would side with us and even without them we could we have done it before and we will do it agian",,Anonymous,,,,,1508547216 146074960,146078885,2017-10-21 00:54:09,">>146078836 >The middle east would side with us are they siding with us now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508547249 146074960,146078958,2017-10-21 00:55:07,">>146078885 The muslim majority would priase the attack of Isreal",,Anonymous,,,,,1508547307 146074960,146079035,2017-10-21 00:56:09,">>146078719 We could steam roll africa and good chunks of asia",,Anonymous,,,,,1508547369 146074960,146079298,2017-10-21 00:59:04,">>146078958 Muslims, Asians, white people...they'd all praise the attack against the raycist natzees. They've set us up for conquering by first winning the minds of the People.",,Anonymous,Jews Muslims united.jpg,7LJgJ5VlrmE7nEqCIKVSYg==,US,,1508547544 146074960,146079433,2017-10-21 01:00:38,"I really like this thread, please make another if this one ends FLAG: Imagine the continents subdivided into the 6(7) colors presented over a white background",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508547638 146074960,146079886,2017-10-21 01:05:54,,,Anonymous,17991896_1723144601049019_1594277629041856654_n.png,46kGS9JO8ffunlB9kNzAJg==,US,,1508547954 146074960,146080446,2017-10-21 01:13:36,">>146079886 its amazing how someone just gets paid to stop us from thinking don't reply to it's b8 reply",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508548416 146074960,146080462,2017-10-21 01:13:43,>>146076265,,Anonymous,1473199790834.jpg,7F/1622KTP8mfbUSPQyxTw==,US,,1508548423 146074960,146080578,2017-10-21 01:15:27,">>146080462 I'm dying these are great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508548527 146074960,146080637,2017-10-21 01:16:16,">>146080578 I guess that was a shit meme the more I think about it, I like the ron paul one more",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508548576 146074960,146080739,2017-10-21 01:17:42,fuck of leftists,,Anonymous,,,,,1508548662 146074960,146080744,2017-10-21 01:17:48,">>146079433 does anyone have their opinion? never gotten one",,Anonymous,1488252827927.jpg,PDKI7xkOnNsE8r4mge2uJA==,US,,1508548668 146074960,146081161,2017-10-21 01:23:07,">>146080744 I'm on acid so I'll just bump until I get what I'm after, what's the average thread time?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508548987 146074960,146081389,2017-10-21 01:25:59,">>146081161 1488 seconds",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508549159 146074960,146081505,2017-10-21 01:27:24,">>146080744 The flag things doesn't sound succinct enough, if that makes sense. It would have too much going on.",,Anonymous,1507183040362.jpg,O5TCZl+DEUqc7jgjjhBK6A==,US,,1508549244 146074960,146082429,2017-10-21 01:38:40,">>146076019 Obviously there are white people that are bad *cough* hillary *cough*, is it so hard to believe there are some jews who aren't bad? I'm not advocating for leaving them alone here, I'm just curious, do nazis think some jews probably don't deserve to burn in a fire?",,Anonymous,,,,,1508549920 146074960,146082433,2017-10-21 01:38:44,,,Anonymous,1506630467305.jpg,JukskJwHbwjGa4MLAJAtcQ==,US,,1508549924 146074960,146082481,2017-10-21 01:39:21,">>146081505 that's the precise opposite of the point think about the OP picture. Certainly NOT universal, in the sense that I might not want to be tied on a flag to.it (I could elaborate) and it's clearly desiring to want to present concepts in its image wew wordsrn whereas my idea could be flown on a flag by any human (imagine the aesthetic, meme potential) and presents the ideas of separate nations and thread theme: youtube.com/watch?v=8D-WVlRohQk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508549961 146074960,146082666,2017-10-21 01:41:25,">>146082481 shitpost my idea would present the ideas of separate nations, and unity",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508550085 146074960,146083575,2017-10-21 01:53:45,">>146082666 heres a really really shitty rendition, I'm thinking simpler continents (I hate this projection) and instead of separating the continents just do vertical stripes",,Anonymous,continents-hi[1].png,cHKTkBJQ0T1SlWU/6gPjyw==,US,,1508550825 146074960,146084130,2017-10-21 02:00:29,">>146082481 >>146082666 >>146083575 oh hey, KeK has blessed (cursed?) my shitreply",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551229 146074960,146084149,2017-10-21 02:00:44,What is the essential NatCap reading list?,,Anonymous,barron-trump-manga.jpg,y3E2MsxtgZYxr3iJtfSv6Q==,US,,1508551244 146074960,146084375,2017-10-21 02:03:40,">>146076180 /thread x 1,000",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551420 146074960,146084378,2017-10-21 02:03:41,">>146084149 I think mein kampf, and whatever Mussolini or defranco(you know who) have to say",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551421 146074960,146084611,2017-10-21 02:06:48,">>146084375 >what is a combination of concepts I've been thinking about this for minutes fyi",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551608 146074960,146084717,2017-10-21 02:08:20,">>146084611 yeah I think what I thought before: it just sounds like an oxymoron",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551700 146074960,146084796,2017-10-21 02:09:24,">>146084130 like I said >>146080744 well I got one but, fuck it done tpyin",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551764 146074960,146084869,2017-10-21 02:10:36,meant to type >>146081161,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551836 146074960,146085047,2017-10-21 02:12:54,">>146084149 Friedrich Hayek Alexander Solzhenitsyn Adam Smith Hans Hermann Hoppe Rockwell",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508551974 146074960,146085062,2017-10-21 02:13:11,Will citizens be flat taxed?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1508551991 146074960,146085230,2017-10-21 02:15:28,">>146085062 We can debate between a flat tax and Sales Tax. Should be under 10%",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508552128 146074960,146086632,2017-10-21 02:37:09,,,Anonymous,1498529905078.png,6w01A533V46Cyvw9bnODtA==,US,,1508553429 146074960,146087713,2017-10-21 02:54:14,">>146086632 these are super comfortable, i love the effort",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508554454 146074960,146088178,2017-10-21 03:01:59,"I'm bored, comfy podcasts?",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1508554919 146074960,146088543,2017-10-21 03:08:22,,,Anonymous,1495576879085.gif,yehBG6ExbTdm4KBF8sqONg==,US,,1508555302 146074960,146088795,2017-10-21 03:13:04,">>146086632 NatSoc and Hoppe-AnCap are the last implicit stands of white identity. Hitler would definitely have found the ideas of his countryman Hans-Hermann Hoppe intriguing and valuable.",,Anonymous,1494573497599.png,4tJ0Asn6y2zbiBAg76s76g==,SE,,1508555584 146074960,146089912,2017-10-21 03:31:36,,,Anonymous,1501961725364.jpg,Eg5RluW504J3fFkhhxkEVQ==,US,,1508556696 146074960,146089986,2017-10-21 03:32:42,Is the rational agent myth the biggest flaw of libertarianism?,,Anonymous,21415004_375334736212252_7644009904409197433_o.jpg,FtVvCbsA+Fs8teJ5HHgXlg==,,,1508556762 146074960,146091068,2017-10-21 03:52:38,">>146089986 Marxist are incapable of moral agency and must be removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508557958 146074960,146091186,2017-10-21 03:54:40,">>146077825 wow i actually like this most /pol/ art is hella cringe but this is cool",,Anonymous,,,,,1508558080 146074960,146091557,2017-10-21 04:01:24,I love you my right wing friends.,,Anonymous,049232a5789fec972e24b84287029204249cb2b6c441db57a3d0cc579ab1e9cc.jpg,MIAJmbBB7WrYmzIju9hwqA==,GB,,1508558484 146074960,146091662,2017-10-21 04:03:11,">>146091068 True, but doesn't answer the question.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508558591 146074960,146091677,2017-10-21 04:03:33,">>146076180 This post is the only relevant one in this thread. The rest are cancer.",,Anonymous,,,TW,,1508558613 146074960,146092180,2017-10-21 04:12:21,">>146091677 You will be physically removed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508559141 146074960,146092767,2017-10-21 04:22:41,">>146091677 National Socialism is only socialist in the same sense Norway is. The state takes a small tax, and invests it like any player in what is an otherwise free market. The profits are then spent on building a welfare state to take care of the less fortunate members of the nation. This welfare state does not accept slobbing about and wasting national funds, but will support education and medical assistance to the state's working or mothering citizens.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1508559761 146198007,146198007,2017-10-22 00:57:32,"There is ever present debate between National Socialists and Anarcho-Capitalists. Both bring up valid points and often share the same end-goals when it comes issues related to race and left-wing politics. Ultimately NatSocs prefer collectivism to individualism and AnCaps the opposite. National Capitalism is the right-wing synthesis of the two (whereas the left-wing synthesis would be Anarcho-Socialism). Unlike the its two parent ideologies, it has been successfully implemented, see Government Junta of Chile (1973- 1990), and has a feasible chance of adoption by Western nations. Some would even argue that this is what the American founding-fathers envisioned. As far as its on the political spectrum goes, it is nearest to the upper right corner of the chart. NatCap is a very broad ideology and could be implemented in a republic, monarchy, one-party state, etc... The underlying principle is that national interests are promoted by capitalist venture. Help improve the popularity of this ideology by >Creating new symbols and icons to represent it >Adding to the collection of Hoppean Snake memes >Organizing a list of NatCap related literature >Refining the fundamentals of NatCap",/NCG/ - National Capitalism General: Augusto Pinochet Edition,Anonymous,National-Capitalism.png,Hg5ja9FNcNmA0jcivdt5cQ==,,,1508633852 146198007,146199522,2017-10-22 01:13:51,Giving you a bump before i hit the pillow,,Anonymous,,,US,,1508634831 146322393,146322393,2017-10-23 00:24:43,"Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator. With that said let's get this ball rolling. Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General:Gracias Mi General!!,Anonymous,15219606_888462191288844_1710289383485732037_n.jpg,EUlu8ej/MsjIK4iA3VTEKw==,US,,1508718283 146322393,146323694,2017-10-23 00:39:49,,,Anonymous,1493444203213.jpg,ADapkWKm8uHrfUZm50ddUA==,US,,1508719189 146322393,146326355,2017-10-23 01:10:07,,,Anonymous,22154222_1459786370806893_3171670050523735326_n.jpg,1/RfXSbJolih2zzZhs04Nw==,US,,1508721007 146512716,146512716,2017-10-24 16:33:16,"Most would agree that for a movement based on identity, unity among those of that identity is critical. This principal is a keystone of national socialism. Socialism appears to be the ultimate statement of unity and collective identity between peoples. This explains the failings of socialism in the past, even national socialism, a well intentioned ideology. Race realism is half the puzzle. Understanding that groups of people have massively differing characteristics, is where we get the NATIONAL in national capitalism. All socialism however, fails to acknowledge the differences of people WITHIN a group. That is to say, socialism undermines individualism. Thus where nationalism sees differences between groups, and internationalism does not, capitalism sees differences between individuals, where socialism does not. This does not mean national capitalists abandon the concept of unity. We see autonomy as the ultimate safety net, and see trade as the ultimate common denominator. With that said let's get this ball rolling. Items on the table today: >Choose a flag >Links to be included in OP >AESTHETICS >Clear definition of National Capitalism >Better OP template",/ncg/ - National Capitalism General:Communist Removal Edition,Anonymous,1498612463052.png,PFe03kzFdhs+0iI5KwhC+Q==,US,,1508862796 146512716,146514164,2017-10-24 16:47:21,First for Hoppe,,TPM,1492855433454.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1508863641 146512716,146514560,2017-10-24 16:51:23,Bump for liberty,,TPM,1492548195893.png,QzM0eX/63/PS6r+DP5csOw==,,,1508863883 146512716,146515931,2017-10-24 17:04:00,National Socialism will never work in the US,,Anonymous,22406544_10154995766421569_3187503335906931321_n.jpg,XxN/tmh+E8E40o0+XV/nJw==,US,,1508864640 146512716,146516643,2017-10-24 17:10:43,"Bump National capitalism is capitalism with traits of nationalism and traditionalism",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1508865043 146512716,146517826,2017-10-24 17:22:23,">>146515931 >National Socialism will never work in the US You can argue that we already kinda have it. And no what we currently have does not work",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508865743 146512716,146518275,2017-10-24 17:26:58,,,Anonymous,1484357823716.png,8KAPVCPGE23Eh31oh6MKbg==,US,,1508866018 146512716,146518420,2017-10-24 17:28:27,">>146515931 Split up first then",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508866107 146512716,146519245,2017-10-24 17:36:39,">>146512716 $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$",,Anonymous,sus sus ancap.jpg,/6poux38EalvIWV8s/vP1w==,CA,,1508866599 146512716,146520760,2017-10-24 17:51:12,"daily reminder the capitalist class must be subjugated, they must serve the nation. the barriers between classes must be destroyed and cooperations between them must be encouraged death to liberalism death to egalitarianism death to internationalism",,Anonymous,Musso8.jpg,IWJQh6NWmMOJEpvG6P7tww==,NL,,1508867472 146512716,146520793,2017-10-24 17:51:27,">>146517826 I agree with this. We have elements of socialism, capitalism and fascism. It depends on what lens you use as to whether or not we're one thing or another. All I know is that the mess we live in is falling apart. I don't want this place to go harder to the left. Formal Socialism is one of the few things I fear.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508867487 146512716,146520900,2017-10-24 17:52:34,"you guys do some good work against the commies but capitalism is just as bad in it's ultimate interpretation nationalism is the way to go",,Anonymous,1508068279936.jpg,2u5deRgfBC0r/cV2YRA7AA==,US,,1508867554 146512716,146521221,2017-10-24 17:55:57,">>146520760 I like this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508867757 146512716,146521436,2017-10-24 17:58:21,"This is the ultimate form of government. It protects freedom and doesn't punish people for being successful, while keeping national identities and cultures intact and not letting society become degenerate.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508867901 146512716,146521680,2017-10-24 18:00:49,">>146521436 >freedom what a useless concept",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508868049 146512716,146521838,2017-10-24 18:02:30,">>146512716 The usa is a tyrannical empire in its final hours due to: >Having too many different interest groups in society >Having opposing political ideologies push and pull the state in opposite directions >The undue influence of military industrial security surveillance media complex >Kikes using you as a weapon to achieve their goals with no care for the hubris you will endure becuase of it You shouldn't try to copy Germany. It's not for you. The founding fathers gave you everything you need to be an ideal nation you just have to possess the character to live up to what they expected of you. To water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants and patriots.",,Anonymous,1508141437827.jpg,pAeJOsikAMxO1bKIKExxSA==,NZ,,1508868150 146512716,146522430,2017-10-24 18:08:01,">>146512716 Jesus Christ this is awful. Unbelievably moronic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508868481 146512716,146522792,2017-10-24 18:11:32,">>146522430 You will be physically removed commie",,Anonymous,1506470672048.jpg,QnywXKAuKaBSTmnVtLlDFQ==,US,,1508868692 146512716,146522840,2017-10-24 18:11:54,">>146512716 Not sure we need a separate general for this though. Wouldn't this fit into /lrg/?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508868714 146512716,146523215,2017-10-24 18:15:11,">>146522840 To many leftist claim to be Libertarians",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508868911 146512716,146523325,2017-10-24 18:16:09,">>146512716 Just call it Conservatism. That's what National Capitalism is. It's Conservatism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508868969 146512716,146523744,2017-10-24 18:20:00,">>146522430 Nice rebuttal, I see you took time and consideration to present a mountain of facts to debunk this ideology, you made a great point and I applaud you for that",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1508869200 146512716,146523749,2017-10-24 18:20:01,,,Anonymous,1506630467305.jpg,JukskJwHbwjGa4MLAJAtcQ==,US,,1508869201 146512716,146523860,2017-10-24 18:21:11,">>146523325 Most conservatives aren't really pro-free market. They want the government to help the (((multinationals))).",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508869271 146512716,146524189,2017-10-24 18:24:22,">>146523860 Conservative's aren't perfect but they're not communist and we agree on things. Logical allies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508869462 146512716,146524243,2017-10-24 18:24:50,lol,,Anonymous,1508104977049.jpg,KnhnMn6s3CArM1mqWCb8Pw==,,,1508869490 146512716,146524278,2017-10-24 18:25:07,">>146512716 National Capitalism combined with constitutional monarchy?",,Anonymous,flash.gif,8j9zRvlTbEcrIZHSdZWWIQ==,,,1508869507 146512716,146524555,2017-10-24 18:27:35,">>146523215 libertarianism is a leftist ideology",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508869655 146512716,146524866,2017-10-24 18:30:51,">>146524555 How so?",,Anonymous,azov russian.jpg,odIPKGLooLeeD9MXgIFG6g==,,,1508869851 146512716,146524924,2017-10-24 18:31:17,">>146522792 I like this flag. Blue and white purity vs evil red and black anarcho commies",,Anonymous,he-man-jon-chu-camp.jpg,41OcnivXNpE0U596rQletg==,,,1508869877 146512716,146525213,2017-10-24 18:33:53,">>14652455 You will be physically removed",,Anonymous,19247710_1373607779374204_8591524334601606607_n.png,+frYGWAcehO87/QyJvP8gA==,US,,1508870033 146512716,146525223,2017-10-24 18:33:55,">>146524924 Heck, let's just do like the Estonians.",,Anonymous,estonia.gif,UEoFY7RsBCHw7wzszQt2xA==,,,1508870035 146512716,146525288,2017-10-24 18:34:30,">>146524866 liberalism is ussualy associated with the left",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508870070 146512716,146525304,2017-10-24 18:34:37,"How does national capitalism work? Any recommended literature?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1508870077 146512716,146525477,2017-10-24 18:36:09,">>146525288 Maybe it was at one time, but these days classical liberalism is strongly associated with the right.",,Anonymous,orthodox.jpg,J2dhIlX5l74uvlv3q+c/LA==,,,1508870169 146512716,146525609,2017-10-24 18:37:27,">>146515931 We don't want natsoc with the current gov. With the current gov we want to hold on to what constitution we have left. We don't want ZOG to have to have anymore power than they have. We are talking about the ideal gov for a future white ethnostate based on maintaining white supremacy. Will it be several principalities which have a defense pact, will it be natsoc, will it be natcap, constitutional rep, one nation under kingship, etc.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508870247 146512716,146525700,2017-10-24 18:38:29,">>146525477 only on /pol/ and in america by illiterate retards. liberalism represents no ""rightwing"" values. you too will get a helicopter ride",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508870309 146512716,146526204,2017-10-24 18:43:12,"Natcap in my opinion: >Encourage free market and capitalism that benefits the nation and is moral (sweatshops are a no of course, aswell as exporting labour) >Focus economy to be manurfacturing based, China are good at this. What we don't want is shit like Hollywood holding an economy, we wanna producing. >Encourage self sustainability by taxing imports more, this will encourage primary businesses to open and hire locals >Encourage close business ties, especially with smaller businesses. Businesses should be working together rather than fucking each-other over until one is in the dirt. >Encourage (not force) nationalism through actions such as: Restoring, funding and building new monuments and historical locations, teaching a positive nationalistic view of the country in schools, support a nationalistic state media, and host more nationalistic parades and sporting events. People should be allowed to still not like the nation but they will be encouraged to be a patriot. >Invest in a strong defensive military >Discourage mega jew-corporations, large businesses are fine until they start fucking over the small guy. >get a natcap memeflag on the 4 chans Anything I missed?",,Anonymous,Workers.jpg,bpYmGg5CtNDjNJns70l6Ew==,,,1508870592 146512716,146526262,2017-10-24 18:43:40,">>146523744 What's to debunk? This is a revolting ramping up of the current order of things with some nativist window dressing. In the end the expediencies of servicing the market and particularly in enriching finance capital will always take precedent over the volk so long as 'capitalism' is seen as a good in itself. Markets are only good insofar as they serve the interests of the society they occur in. This national capitalism is a base and retarded neoconservatism with a dash of fashy mystique and nothing else. It is only a militarized liberalism. Most likely appeals to slow witted faggots that still think helicopter memes are funny and are incapable of forming a cogent critique of the president. This is literally the worst ideology I have ever seen espoused on this web site and the world is more stupid for this dumb shit even existing. Go jerk off to pictures of Pinochet sucking Milton Friedmans cock you fucking brainless piece of shit . You've no loyalty to anything strong, lofty or noble.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508870620 146512716,146526318,2017-10-24 18:44:11,">>146512716 Ok, what the fuck actually is NatCap?",,Anonymous,,,,,1508870651 146512716,146526605,2017-10-24 18:46:45,">>146526318 People who have never read a fucking book and are educated about political science entirely by memes on 4chan trying to form a 'radical' position that in no way reacts to or challenges fundamentally any aspect of the status quo.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508870805 146512716,146526845,2017-10-24 18:48:54,">>146525700 Classical liberalism/libertarianism has been associated with the right ever since Marx published the communist manifesto.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508870934 146512716,146527173,2017-10-24 18:51:41,">>146526605 As a socialist you very well may be subject to physical removal",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508871101 146512716,146527244,2017-10-24 18:52:22,">>146525304 Hans Herman Hopp",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508871142 146512716,146527301,2017-10-24 18:52:55,">>146525700 >liberalism represents no ""rightwing"" values Hierarchy, hard work, and self-reliance are considered left-wing values now?",,Anonymous,russian pals.jpg,ysv4ICmxRJAT8wnKSrcy6A==,,,1508871175 146512716,146527482,2017-10-24 18:54:29,">>146526845 You have no idea what libertarianism in the US is.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508871269 146512716,146527640,2017-10-24 18:55:58,">>146527173 No I won't you fucking larper. You are just going to suck republican cock for the rest of your life as they sell you and your kind down the fucking river to the benefit of arms manufacturers and high finance you sycophantic piece of shit. You are the white genocide you stupid, clueless faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508871358 146512716,146527659,2017-10-24 18:56:08,">>146527482 Obviously I didn't mean dude weed lmao what is aleppo nu-libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1508871368 146512716,146528365,2017-10-24 19:02:56,,,Anonymous,1506480604532.png,UERBuc307xsCQC6o8fr/Pg==,US,,1508871776 146512716,146529666,2017-10-24 19:15:47,"Update of the Above Anarcho-Capitalist variant. This version would appeal more to patriots, and to individuals who like the symbolism of Red(Strength) White (Purity) and Blue (Unity)",,Anonymous,1508883601231.jpg,lKUdLfKxdOdYRz/3VxoZ5g==,,,1508872547 146512716,146529947,2017-10-24 19:18:40,">>146529666 >a flag within a flag No",,Anonymous,,,,,1508872720 146512716,146530680,2017-10-24 19:25:54,">>146529666 >>146523749 Natcap is not anti-communist action and anti-communist action is not natcap Stop polluting natcap threads with anticom, You are an anti Antifa group, we are a political identity and movement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508873154 146512716,146532740,2017-10-24 19:45:44,"What is natcap: http://1stirregulars.com/national-capitalism-33-precepts/ This is a good set of principles, however I disagree with the bit where there says there will be no official currency in a nation.",,Anonymous,5rwq6sqvjzhz.png,5Z8Fcs44+muBC/ZaQKoIxw==,GB,,1508874344 146512716,146533191,2017-10-24 19:50:25,">>146532740 >33",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508874625 146512716,146533529,2017-10-24 19:53:56,">>146533191 >1433",,Anonymous,Evola-Heroic-Vision.jpg,djvXTOWcAhPEgg2yTdeiHQ==,GB,,1508874836 146512716,146533530,2017-10-24 19:53:58,">>146529666 Never have words on a flag, never have a flag within a flag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1508874838 146512716,146533668,2017-10-24 19:55:08,">>146533529 I see",,Anonymous,,,US,,1508874908 198686060,198686060,2019-01-04 12:19:41,,/NCG/ National Capitalism General /NCG/,Anonymous,asdfasfd234.png,dXpdYAZgQ5N21JlgDPqXnQ==,LV,Latvia,1546604381 198686060,198686110,2019-01-04 12:20:48,">>198686060 kys",,Anonymous,,,RS,Serbia,1546604448 198686060,198686158,2019-01-04 12:21:50,">>198686110 Pay me, i will.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1546604510 198686060,198686206,2019-01-04 12:22:37,">>198686060 Faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1546604557 198686060,198686317,2019-01-04 12:24:38,">>198686158 How much? >mfw 2 goats and some string cheese would do it",,Anonymous,1545879043208.jpg,oTCZZELNstiXTARwxq0oxg==,US,United States,1546604678 198686060,198686329,2019-01-04 12:24:53,">>198686060 This doesn't work as well as you think it might.",,Anonymous,,,FR,France,1546604693 198686060,198686782,2019-01-04 12:33:52,">>198686060 Shit thread.Capitalism is incompatible with nationalism and tradition",,Anonymous,navikapitalismam.png,GpsSd+em4N9j/iyEck2lHA==,LV,Latvia,1546605232 198686060,198686950,2019-01-04 12:36:59,">>198686782 And socialism is incompitent with not starving people to death. >>198686329 USA in 1940s?",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1546605419 198686060,198687357,2019-01-04 12:43:57,">>198686950 >All Socialism is Marxist Socialism",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1546605837 198686060,198687415,2019-01-04 12:45:09,">>198687357 All socialism leads to Marxist socialism",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1546605909 198686060,198687695,2019-01-04 12:50:16,">>198687415 >""le ebil facsim is the same as gommunism All socialism evil! Capitalism the only way :DD""",,Anonymous,1497708901926.png,Tqx4oUtWwEyDv3Pm1fqzBw==,LV,Latvia,1546606216 198686060,198688180,2019-01-04 12:58:23,">>198686110 fpbp",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1546606703 198686060,198688240,2019-01-04 12:59:14,">>198687415 You're genuinely fucking retarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1546606754 198686060,198688333,2019-01-04 13:00:45,">>198686060 cool so economic nationalism too? it is the only fucking way to stop the eternal boomer in the ethnostate also, have fair prerequisites to vote based on the people who actually are the lifeblood of the nation for example only men who have atleast 3 children can vote (kills the eternal faggot) only men who are 20 years old or older can vote (kills the eternal zoomer) only men who have over 90% white dna can vote (kills the eternal kike) only men who have a national identification can vote (kills the eternal beaner) only men who are actively working a job can vote (kills the eternal white trash) only men who have served or who are actively serving in the military even if its a small job can vote (kills the eternal basedboy) only men who passed all standard education can vote (kills the eternal brainlet) only men who have passed fire arms training requirements and background check and mental examination and who own atleast 1 firearm can vote (kills the eternal basedboy) >>198687695 >implying capitalist countries somehow cant have a few policies based on social / legal functionalism to ban or encourage things we now know are needed for human society protecting the 2.1+ birthrate protecting the traditional family protecting against predatory business environmental protection etc",,Anonymous,1536904600477.jpg,OGjq/QG4ZFYsMj+1diO1Rw==,US,United States,1546606845 198686060,198688338,2019-01-04 13:00:50,">>198686060 Pray for the coming of total automation",,Anonymous,354353.png,hrymsXtMMvKxEB9LKG3GOg==,GB,United Kingdom,1546606850 198686060,198690022,2019-01-04 13:25:44,bump,,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1546608344 198686060,198690913,2019-01-04 13:38:48,">>198686060 wtf has /pol/ become ?",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1546609128 198686060,198691309,2019-01-04 13:45:07,">>198686060 Ello. Just inquiring as to how nationalism and capitalism go hand in hand? Dunno how a collectivist sentiment works with an individualist economic model. Or are you just another edgelord who thinks he's figured it all out?",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1546609507 198686060,198691890,2019-01-04 13:54:13,">>198691309 USA in 1940s was nationalistic and capitalistic at the same time, same as British Empire, was nationalistic but ran on capitalistic economic module, NATCAP has worked in the past.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1546610053 198686060,198692149,2019-01-04 13:58:32,">>198686060 International Zionism",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1546610312 198686060,198693311,2019-01-04 14:16:59,">>198691890 >image taking 40s USA and Britain as your model You're a literal liberal, my friend. Also, how did their """"nationalism"""" worked out for them? Only 20 years later, they were already jewed to the max",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1546611419 198686060,198693354,2019-01-04 14:17:36,">>198690913 a safe space",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1546611456 198686060,198693358,2019-01-04 14:17:37,Isn't this just fascism?,,Anonymous,1545770434005.jpg,kUnxhJXNjdPB93ko7j/y/g==,GB,United Kingdom,1546611457 198686060,198693525,2019-01-04 14:20:08,">>198686782 It can as long as nationalism and tradition are valued again. https://antinomiaimediata.wordpress.com/2017/04/26/a-neocameralist-reconstruction-of-the-us-constitution/ https://youtu.be/FgEqQujsNTY",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1546611608 198686060,198693538,2019-01-04 14:20:21,">>198693358 READ DOCTRINE OF FASCISM BY GENTILE AND COMING CORPORATE STATE BY THOMPSON",,Anonymous,480712.jpg,psaykYYTSHcZLawHM3eH7g==,LV,Latvia,1546611621 198686060,198693575,2019-01-04 14:20:56,">>198688338 https://youtu.be/Twi_6NgsJWU",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1546611656 198686060,198693597,2019-01-04 14:21:15,">>198693525 Capitalism is the anti-thesis of nation and tradition.",,Anonymous,evolaoncapitalism.png,jsQiwaXyPcpIM6Fr/LKYFQ==,LV,Latvia,1546611675 198686060,198693766,2019-01-04 14:24:05,">>198693597 depends on the nation",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1546611845 198686060,198693890,2019-01-04 14:25:59,">>198693538 Yes, do that, then become a fascist and not a filthy capitalist swine.",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1546611959 198686060,198694027,2019-01-04 14:27:49,">>198693766 Your nation isn't real, if it's compatible with capitalism (e.g. Americans) >>198693890 Already done that",,Anonymous,art.png,G3Ixmn6wx+ioSU5H8RcOUg==,LV,Latvia,1546612069 198686060,198694080,2019-01-04 14:28:35,">>198688240 >Increase dependency on the state >Create systems of arbitrary decision that can be lobbied and pushed around by mobs fighting for their own interest. >Destroy structures of voluntary mutual-aid by rendering them irrelevant and unnecessary >Not leading to Marxist socialism. All kinds of socialism lead to Marxism eventually.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1546612115 198686060,198694090,2019-01-04 14:28:39,">>198686060 Capitalism is Jewish garbage.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1546612119 198686060,198694210,2019-01-04 14:30:24,">>198694080 see >>198688240",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1546612224 198686060,198694289,2019-01-04 14:31:37,">>198694210 See >>Not an argument",,Anonymous,18251563_410209122697939_7533106662744260608_n.jpg,hxGM7+qkZCNhwwgo9I6RYg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1546612297 198686060,198694309,2019-01-04 14:31:48,">>198686950 You think Capitalism is good because it provides us material comfort. I hope you know that what you call ""Cultural Marxism"" is just spiritual capitalism. Watch Varg's VRs to Stefan Molyneaux to get a better understanding of the anti-capitalist viewpoint. Ben Shapiro is gay, so is Stefan and Hoppe. And why is it that most people who promote capitalism turn out to be overwhelmingly Jewish? It's because Capitalism is the same system that rules us today.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1546612308 198686060,198694466,2019-01-04 14:34:08,">>198688333 protection = infringement of the freedumb. stop believing in a pipe dream",,Anonymous,,,,National Bolshevik,1546612448 198686060,198694495,2019-01-04 14:34:27,">>198694309 >And why is it that most people who oppose capitalism turn out to be overwhelmingly Jewish? ftfy",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1546612467 198686060,198695326,2019-01-04 14:46:03,">>198686782 Wrong. The most successful school of all time. The (American)nationalist system, related to the historical school of economics. See fredrich list. It made America and Germany surpass the Anglo free trade system(open your ports to free trade for our shit goods or we will btfo of u) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics)",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1546613163 198686060,198695467,2019-01-04 14:47:58,">>198686060 who gets initial land ownership in a country under capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1546613278 198686060,198695794,2019-01-04 14:52:02,">>198694495 >When you realise the Jews that oppose capitalism also greatly benefit from it",,Anonymous,,,FR,France,1546613522 201343441,201343441,2019-01-28 14:04:28,"Thread theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWsxkzSzKRo",/NCG/ National Capitalism General /NCG/,Anonymous,asdfasfd234.png,dXpdYAZgQ5N21JlgDPqXnQ==,LV,Latvia,1548684268 201343441,201343650,2019-01-28 14:08:42,">>201343441 >national capitalism Ghost and his retarded fans can fuck off.",,Rainbow Dash is my God,,,HR,Croatia,1548684522 201343441,201343851,2019-01-28 14:12:23,">>201343650 fuck off socialist faggot, good luck paying those 80% tax",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1548684743 204328195,204328195,2019-02-25 09:51:06,"Threads designed to discuss political idiology of National Capitalism, a idiology that includes romantisation and security of the peoples and folk, as well as economic freedom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5tEoIrXK6o + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWsxkzSzKRo",/NCG/ National Capitalism general /NCG/,Anonymous,asdfasfd234.png,dXpdYAZgQ5N21JlgDPqXnQ==,LV,Latvia,1551088266 204328195,204329284,2019-02-25 10:13:24,">>204328195 How is your gay ideology going to defend against a degenerate product becoming dominant in the economy and making the company that produces it a monopoly?",,bitchniggercumtits,,,SE,Sweden,1551089604 204328195,204329347,2019-02-25 10:14:46,">>204329284 Making it illegal.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551089686 204328195,204329436,2019-02-25 10:16:35,">>204329347 But is that capitalism?",,bitchniggercumtits,,,SE,Sweden,1551089795 204328195,204329491,2019-02-25 10:17:39,">>204329436 Yes its still capitalism with regulations.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551089859 204328195,204329675,2019-02-25 10:20:43,">>204328195 So anybody else excited about whipping those commies in venezuela off the face of the earth my fellow nazcaps?",,Anonymous,,,IL,Israel,1551090043 204328195,204329788,2019-02-25 10:22:48,">>204329491 But you are not regulating the market, you are controlling it like in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism",,bitchniggercumtits,,,SE,Sweden,1551090168 204328195,204329878,2019-02-25 10:24:41,">>204329675 They can do whatever they want, its non of our buisness what they do in their country.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551090281 204328195,204329966,2019-02-25 10:26:01,">>204329788 Maybe, but you have to do what you have to do.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551090361 204328195,204330067,2019-02-25 10:28:18,">>204329966 Yeah, it just seems like you are a national socialist to me instead of a national capitalist and what thats suppose to mean",,bitchniggercumtits,,,SE,Sweden,1551090498 204328195,204330194,2019-02-25 10:30:29,">>204330067 Nah, market regulations and taxes have to be as low as possible, national socialists supose very isolated economy with huge amount of regulations National Capitalism suposes balancing on thin line between influx of degeneracy and economic and social freedom.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551090629 204328195,204330349,2019-02-25 10:33:17,Closest thing to National Capitalism would be 1940s-1960s USA.,,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551090797 204328195,204330715,2019-02-25 10:41:15,">>204330349 Also Israel right now.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551091275 204328195,204330735,2019-02-25 10:41:35,">>204330194 But the isolated economy in Natsoc is due to the companys all being owned by the government. Its basically capitalism enforced by the state and thats like your system. You wouldnt allow a company to be sold to some foreign country/company? Or is the national not as important as the capitalist?",,bitchniggercumtits,,,SE,Sweden,1551091295 204328195,204330822,2019-02-25 10:42:53,">>204330715 _ ()> &",,bitchniggercumtits,,,SE,Sweden,1551091373 204328195,204331190,2019-02-25 10:50:24,">>204329436 Common sense based capitalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1551091824 204328195,204331196,2019-02-25 10:50:30,">>204330735 Companies would be private, like in USA in 1940s-1960s, the main objective is too create social policies based on intereses of main ethnic group of the country bouth economic and social, very high regulations on imigration based on IQ scores and ethnicity, while not having taxes at 60%+ something like 20% or 15% would be okay.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551091830 204328195,204331594,2019-02-25 10:57:38,">>204330822 But its true, israel is creating policies based on intereses of their people while maintaining somewhat free market this is not what we are doing in the west, as even right wingers here are civic nationalists at best.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551092258 204328195,204331657,2019-02-25 10:58:54,">>204328195 You are not white",,Anonymous,,,,European,1551092334 204328195,204331782,2019-02-25 11:01:24,">>204331657 My flag alone should be good enough prof that i am.",,Anonymous,1544807447782.jpg,u0NCu5nhrg/IOuv2tFsKcw==,LV,Latvia,1551092484 204328195,204331885,2019-02-25 11:03:20,">>204331782 white isn't only skin color you are mongol russian",,Anonymous,,,,European,1551092600 204328195,204331920,2019-02-25 11:04:01,>>204331885,,Anonymous,East-Asian-admixture.gif,chWvdaDZyBVJrffHleSYVw==,LV,Latvia,1551092641 204328195,204332017,2019-02-25 11:06:03,">>204331920 based are you nordics ?",,Anonymous,,,,European,1551092763 204328195,204332208,2019-02-25 11:09:28,">>204332017 Depends in what you mean by nordics.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551092968 204328195,204332629,2019-02-25 11:17:05,">>204328195 There is no such thing as ""National Capitalism"". In every variation/semantic meaning it is an oxymoron. Nationalism is incompatible with Capitalism. Restricting private market exchanges within one country, despite what level of economic freedom within that country, is inherantly anti-capitalistic. Capitalism is, fundamentally, the pursuit of profits being the primary (in practice it's actually ""sole"") purpose of private economic exchanges. Not only does this cause a cultural breakdown and a reduction in social cohesion, it is fundamentally incompatible with Nationalism. Example: A Factory(or whatever) owner has three main options for their industry to succeed: >a): Set up domestic factory and hire domestic workers >b): Set up domestic factory and ship in foreign workers >c): Ship that factory overseas (figuratively) and hire foreign workers in e.g China. Option A is the Nationalist option. Options B and C (depending on the industry) are the most profitable Capitalist options. You cannot choose option A and be a Capitalist. You cannot choose options B or C and be a true Nationalist. National Socialism is everything you want. The Third Reich privatized industry, had the market being almost entirely responsible for the creation and sale of consumer goods and yet engaged in limited Autarky to make sure that if a job could be done by a German, it would be done by a German. It's just that you and others like you have an inbuilt aversion to the word ""socialism"" for the first year or two when you come here.",,Anonymous,1550308914200.jpg,V6Ala9433dMWnpNoJpkBjw==,,Nazi,1551093425 204328195,204332878,2019-02-25 11:21:45,">>204332629 The point is to abolish social most welthere programs, keep taxes low while creating social policies based on well being of main ethnic group your last example ignores the fact that there is a way to punish such companies who betray their home country, making tarifs on the goods they are producing, like Trump is doing right now.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551093705 204328195,204333360,2019-02-25 11:30:49,">>204332878 >The point is to abolish social most welthere programs And, what? Just let those at the bottom of society go hungry? That's what lead to a massive uptick in support for Communists in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Economies of any kind have two and only two options: have the state guarentee a job or all jobless people OR create a welfare state. Western Capitalists created the welfare state, not the Socialists. the Soviet Union for instance had no unemployment benefit. You had to work because the state guaranteed a job. Either you worked or you didn't get paid. You should know that you live in the FSU. >keep taxes low while creating social policies based on well being of main ethnic group So, National Socialism then? the Third Reich had a personal income tax rate of 13.7%. >your last example ignores the fact that there is a way to punish such companies who betray their home country, making tarifs on the goods they are producing Yes, which is anti-capitalistic. If the state has to intervene in the market to the extent that it is creating tariffs and fining those companies that don't toe the line then it's not a Capitalist economy by definition.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1551094249 204328195,204333365,2019-02-25 11:30:55,">>204328195 So... You want a system like China has?",,Anonymous,,,FI,Finland,1551094255 204328195,204333493,2019-02-25 11:33:47,">>204333365 Basicaly yeah, but more economic freedom.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551094427 204328195,204333886,2019-02-25 11:41:01,">>204333360 Listen, if America right now would start segregating negros from Europeans and abolished afermative action, and cut down on non-European imigration, would they become National socialist country?What i call National capitalism is essentialy what western countries where in 19th-20th century but because in the past people where not brainwashed into this self hatered cult we see today.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551094861 204328195,204335432,2019-02-25 12:13:34,">>204330735 >the isolated economy in Natsoc is due to the companys all being owned by the government. Companies aren't all owned by the government in NatSoc. I don't get the impression that even most of them were. It's Corporatism. The companies can do what they need and as they please, the government can just come in and do what needs to be done if the company gets out of line in some way.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1551096814 204328195,204336380,2019-02-25 12:34:33,">>204331196 What about refugees coming to the border and climbing over the fence?",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1551098073 204328195,204336473,2019-02-25 12:36:49,">>204336380 Border security.",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551098209 204328195,204336972,2019-02-25 12:47:54,"How would you propose to structure a natcap/soc goverment? Democracy would be quite pointless, as the state can practically choose who gets to vote, but having a dictatorship would risk having an idiot up top. A proposal of mine would be a similar one to switzerland, where multible people, (eg. 7) are on top with similar amount of power, controlling different sectors of the state.",,Anonymous,,,CH,Switzerland,1551098874 204328195,204337008,2019-02-25 12:48:36,">>204336380 Refugees don't come if you don't give them free gibs.",,Anonymous,,,CH,Switzerland,1551098916 204328195,204337065,2019-02-25 12:49:57,">>204336972 Yeah this is a good idea. >>204337008 this",,Anonymous,,,LV,Latvia,1551098997 204328195,204338176,2019-02-25 13:13:03,">>204333360 The state can do a mix of both like we do now, but welfare shouldn't be privatized at all. The soviets got that part right actually. No SNAP cards No vouchers/stamps No additional cash to spend on whatever No applications No income requirements Soup kitchens and bread lines only",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1551100383