thread_id,id,timestamp,body,subject,author,image_file,image_md5,country_code,country_name,unix_timestamp 101323002,101323002,2016-12-03 06:37:11,"/pol/, is monarchy the ultimate redpilled form of government? Would you rather live in a corrupt democracy or in a monarchy with a just ruler? And why would reviewbrah be the best king? Please discuss.",/mg/ Monarchy general - Reviewbrah edition,Anonymous,reviewking.jpg,Tw1+Pz34UZ/ZHGZ5IseDkA==,DE,,1480747031 101327893,101327893,2016-12-03 07:45:29,"God save the Queen(and Tsar.) While red plague on /pol/ rises, let us have a small ""safe space"" This thread is for discussion of any form of monarchy and autocracy related government systems.",/mg/ Monarchy general - The last Kaiser Edition,Anonymous,Willy.jpg,/vXYTeVOAG/IrJfkJYffQA==,RU,,1480751129 101327893,101327966,2016-12-03 07:46:25,"Monarchy is a shit system. Literally the worst system imaginable.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1480751185 101327893,101328010,2016-12-03 07:47:04,">>101327893 Ancap standing by ready to beat yo azz",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1480751224 101327893,101328025,2016-12-03 07:47:20,">>101327893 >safe space anyhow, why the fuck did the Karađorđević dynasty think that forcing us under the name of Yugoslovens was a smart idea or more over, why did they take Croatia and Slovenia into our country after WW1",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1480751240 101327893,101328212,2016-12-03 07:50:17,">>101327893 Why is this woman...",,Anonymous,NataliaGreatCameraWork.webm,Topvz+deqplpPmmonM1J2A==,US,,1480751417 101327893,101328266,2016-12-03 07:50:56,">>101328212 ...seemingly obsessed with this family?",,Anonymous,RussiaTsar.jpg,AuJZvHnVn+1uWL+jUapp2A==,US,,1480751456 101327893,101329411,2016-12-03 08:07:07,">>101327966 >>101328010 Good argumentation here, really destroyed my beliefs.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1480752427 101327893,101331050,2016-12-03 08:30:12,">we didn't restore the monarchy like Spain The republic was a mistake",,Anonymous,1480346233321.jpg,qKFNImDNM/KVIcH841i+ww==,PT,,1480753812 101327893,101331261,2016-12-03 08:33:12,">>101327893 Monarchy is the most superior governmental system of all time The Middle Ages was the pinnacle of Western Civilization The Renaissance was just a wave of degenerate humanism Read Evola bruhs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1480753992 101327893,101331520,2016-12-03 08:36:30,">>101327966 Constitutional Monarchy is the way to go. A democracy with the capacity to stop it killing itself.",,Anonymous,Princess Mako.jpg,zTZQ/FN3Yeyb4X/TJZxw0A==,GB,,1480754190 101327893,101331724,2016-12-03 08:39:14,">>101331520 Any form of democracy is for plebs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1480754354 101327893,101331819,2016-12-03 08:40:18,">>101331724 Yes that statement is correct. Democracy is for plebs.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1480754418 101327893,101331980,2016-12-03 08:42:45,">>101331819 And what are the plebs? We are degenerate and animalistic...we have base needs and the majority of us are dumb as shit These people should not be catered to or encouraged....and most of them should really have no say in anything the government does",,Anonymous,,,US,,1480754565 101327893,101333883,2016-12-03 09:09:19,">>101327893 Bump! Pretty sure there's more monarchy supporters.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1480756159 101327893,101334597,2016-12-03 09:19:24,"Europe was at it's greatest when it was lead by Monarchs. God Save the queen",,Anonymous,34234234324.jpg,esvhqG1T62Fr52ioUs8NSg==,CA,,1480756764 101327893,101335041,2016-12-03 09:25:55,">>101334597 >Europe was at it's greatest when it was lead by Monarchs. true that",,Anonymous,Christianity and Monarchy.jpg,Mr7wTUewkacyyCaI2Tvm1w==,PT,,1480757155 101327893,101335264,2016-12-03 09:29:08,">>101328266 Nicky was so fucking charismatic, I'd let him cucc me any time",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1480757348 101327893,101335757,2016-12-03 09:36:39,"The problem with modern society is that a man is only valued in terms of the wealth he creates. He is simply a machine for production and consumption. His moral character is simply and afterthought The monarchs connected the people to a higher ideal. People could achieve value and manliness by demonstrating superior character traits...loyalty, honor The monarch forces the people to look upwards and aspire to greatness of the soul With a democrat system their is no focus on the spiritual. The leaders of democracies must stoop down to the level of the plebs to appear as them. They appeal to their base animalistic desires",,Anonymous,,,US,,1480757799 101327893,101336253,2016-12-03 09:43:17,">>101331261 Don't worry arsewipe. When we civilized people leave to colonize new worlds with all our degenerate humanism and technology, we'll leave you behind to read Evola and play kings and serfs all you want until you fuck the earth over with overconsumption.",,Anonymous,hqdefault.jpg,5xwV4f/U3ej33IjQMlEC/A==,RO,,1480758197 101327893,101336616,2016-12-03 09:47:40,">>101327893 >tfw I know someone who thinks WW1 was worth it because it uprooted some of the European monarchies and made room for muh democracy. Literally saying that it was worth the death of millions of souls just so Jane McFlabbytits the single mother with 8 kids all from different fathers can vote for more welfare.",,Anonymous,uP0LRgM.jpg.gif,J/IxmXtqnBVtrRtfr//o8A==,GB,,1480758460 101327893,101337009,2016-12-03 09:52:45,">>101336253 >overconsumption we'll leave that to the capitalists, socialists and commies and who is to say we can't try to colonize our own planet",,Anonymous,,,US,,1480758765 101327893,101338685,2016-12-03 10:14:00,Trump needs to be king.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1480760040 105547952,105547952,2017-01-03 21:14:27,"MONARCHISM GENERAL Who /monarchist/ here? >The most traditional form of government >Not susceptible to demagoguery >Efficient government >Above partisan politics >Creates a sense of national unity >Adds enormously to culture Europe needs to see the return of despotic and absolute monarchy. Of course, the type of monarchy that every state implements is tied to their national identity - states with a history and culture of local government and policy would have more decentralised forms of monarchism. Nonetheless, this experiment of country-wide democracy is a failed experiment, and we need to see the return of traditional monarchist governments. THREAD THEME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zk6eXvCiuo",Monarchism General /mg/,Anonymous,42918.png,FgQD6jOV4BYn53NsQs5kew==,FI,,1483478067 123218872,123218872,2017-04-28 13:26:59,"This thread is dedicated to the discussion of Monarchy and why it is undeniably the best form of government. All types of Monarchists are welcome: Absolute Monarchists, Constutional Monarchists, Anarcho Monarchists, etc. You should restore your Monarch. INTERESTING VIDEOS: Peter Hitchens on Monarchy: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYoDO83fMg Fritz Imperial ""Why I'm a Monarchist"": >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxertU2shnE Interview with HSH Hans Adam II of Liechtenstein: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXBX3e1T64 THREAD THEME: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mursg7TZsE",/MG/ MONARCHISM GENERAL,Anonymous,fürst.jpg,YlZ2hgzoD33ARXTLSxAHAw==,CA,,1493386019 133671707,133671707,2017-07-14 19:48:39,"Monarchism General Edition: The Comeback Kid This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/LyfpyJPt Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as the United Kingdom and Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Social Media: Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",/MG/ Monarchism General,Anonymous,Monarchist_General_Logo.png,jptsApinJwl1CVxDj3f16A==,,,1500061719 133671707,133672260,2017-07-14 19:55:03,"So how does this system keep itself in check? I've heard of stories about inbreeding and power struggles with this form of government.",,Anonymous,,,PH,,1500062103 133671707,133672457,2017-07-14 19:57:09,">>133671707 Bump",,Anonymous,,,,,1500062229 133671707,133672467,2017-07-14 19:57:22,">>133672260 no system can keep istelf in check completely but in the case of monarchy revolts happen when the king is shit",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500062242 133671707,133672578,2017-07-14 19:58:50,* blocks your path*,,Anonymous,paul_i.jpg,w1gDGFCfOYR12TnpyugrZg==,US,,1500062330 133671707,133672621,2017-07-14 19:59:22,">>133672260 The entire British system. >>the Magna Carta (1215), the Provisions of Oxford (1258), the Provisions of Westminister (1259), the Statue of Marlborough (1267), the Welsh Acts of 1535 & 1542, the Petition of Right (1628), Instrument of government (1653), Humble Petition & Advice (1657), Habeas Corpus Act (1679), the Bill of Rights (1689), the Act of Settlement (1701), and the Act of Union (1706), Acts of Union (1800)",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500062362 133671707,133672665,2017-07-14 19:59:43,">>133672621 ...before 1911*",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500062383 133671707,133672695,2017-07-14 20:00:05,">>133672621 > constitutional monarchy wow dude /pol/ can't be that cucked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500062405 133671707,133672777,2017-07-14 20:00:55,">>133672695 Don't talk about division of power between monarchs and public assemblies if you don't understand it. This is just National Conservatism in the UK, not monarchism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500062455 133671707,133672809,2017-07-14 20:01:12,">>133671707 This is idiotic. Read Moldbug if you want to see what the real monarchist movement looks like.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500062472 133671707,133672842,2017-07-14 20:01:31,">>133672777 > sees digits you're right senpai",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500062491 133671707,133672902,2017-07-14 20:02:11,">>133672842 claimed.",,Anonymous,UK (5).png,PxekpYmeVdn4hFygiM93wQ==,GB,,1500062531 133671707,133673021,2017-07-14 20:03:33,">>133672902 hi relative",,Anonymous,nicholas_ii.jpg,Ecu+/jfZSXMVaryTtijf5w==,US,,1500062613 133671707,133673028,2017-07-14 20:03:38,">>133672809 I don't get why nobody on here ever talks about molding or any of the other nrx",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1500062618 133671707,133673186,2017-07-14 20:05:24,">>133671707 >Monarchies still exist today, such as the United Kingdom No monarchist would dare call that abomination of political system in the modern UK a 'monarchy.' Who are you really, shill?",,Anonymous,,,,,1500062724 133671707,133673262,2017-07-14 20:06:09,">>133671707 British reconquest of North America when?",,Anonymous,Liz.jpg,OuyZFxUYYX6xxZFyeI9M9g==,US,,1500062769 133671707,133673366,2017-07-14 20:07:15,">>133673186 it was a meh tier answer in the discord, new threadposter accidentally used it.",,Anonymous,RoyalLibertarianism.png,Mlzh1nmetE1PePu7WKsgJA==,US,,1500062835 133671707,133673395,2017-07-14 20:07:30,">>133673186 There is no better monarchical system in the world in theory. In practice, the Queen has not signed Royal Assent in person since Queen Victoria, and the last refusal was 1707. Queen Victoria setting the precedence for a non-political monarchy is what degraded the Crown.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500062850 133671707,133673409,2017-07-14 20:07:38,">>133671707 SAY IT WITH ME KING EMMANUEL I OF FRANCE",,Anonymous,1499588965538.jpg,Q2R4PnXe23zermE48PzJ9g==,LV,,1500062858 133671707,133673518,2017-07-14 20:08:42,">>133673028 They are to intelligent for nu/pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1500062922 133671707,133673789,2017-07-14 20:11:17,">>133673028 Because this board has been taken over my lebbit refugees and leftist shills whose political beliefs are informed entirely by mainstream political ideologies. 99% of the idiots on here will defend ""muh vote"" with the same mouth-foaming religiosity as progressives, even if you can rationally demonstrate to them that democracy is the most degenerate political system. Don't expect nu-/pol/ to listen to reason.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500063077 133671707,133673870,2017-07-14 20:12:06,I can agree with this.,,Anonymous,sanctuaries.jpg,tTcwTW0hmiYbJmmBAEBpzA==,,,1500063126 133671707,133673892,2017-07-14 20:12:21,">>133673186 Yeah, horrible example. There is only one absolute monarchy left in Europe, and it is Liechtenstein- literally the best place in the entire continent (and possible the world).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500063141 133671707,133673906,2017-07-14 20:12:29,"I have a question: You assume that the monarch will be a good person and agree with what you want and such. What happens when the monarch engages in actions that are bad for the people of your country? George Soros, the Rothschilds, the Clintons, the Bushes, and the Lee family are all exactly what you want to be ruled by: Wealthy, powerful, detached, and not subject to checks and balances. Hans-Adam II is a literal monarch and he's filling his country with refugees. You might say that the royal family will remove them, but what if the whole family is doing the fucking (the Bushes, the Clintons) or is rotten (The Lees, who are currently tearing Singapore apart over petty property squabbles)?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500063149 133671707,133674066,2017-07-14 20:14:07,">>133673906 > divine right you can't just put any person on the throne. the person you're gonna put has to be pious, moral, and educated.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500063247 133671707,133674105,2017-07-14 20:14:36,">>133673906 The terms for removal of a monarch was set out in English common law in the trials that came after the English Civil War under the banner of Rex v Rex, which establishes the Crown is a seperate institute to the monarch itsself and isn't one person. However it would still resort to violence.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500063276 133671707,133674268,2017-07-14 20:16:34,">>133674066 And what about the fact that the majority of monarchs have not been pious, moral, and educated even by the standards of the day? Obviously everything will work out if we give absolute power to someone who is perfect, but then have you ever met someone who is perfect? You might say ""Yeah, Jesus/Augustus/Caesar/Napoleon/Lee Kuan Yew"", but they're dead and not coming back. Someone could rule in their stead, but what if THEY aren't perfect? What then?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500063394 133671707,133674415,2017-07-14 20:18:05,">>133674268 >absolute power This usually comes under the banner of Royal Prerogative in any monarchical system more evolved than a tribal king. He/she doesn't wield absolute power all of the time, nor without ministers. Norway has or had this system too",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500063485 133671707,133674494,2017-07-14 20:18:57,">>133674268 >And what about the fact that the majority of monarchs have not been pious, moral, and educated even by the standards of the day Are you kidding me? Monarchs were extremely pious, moral, and educated by today's standards. Stop pulling statistics out of your ass. Monarchists do not believe monarchs are perfect, so you can drop that lazy strawman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1500063537 133671707,133674496,2017-07-14 20:19:02,">>133674268 A monarch is to be educated from birth to be the best ruler they can be. If someone is exceptionally bad they either be forced to abdicate, an internal coup within the royal family can occur, or even a revolution by either the lower classes or nobility.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500063542 133671707,133674621,2017-07-14 20:20:26,">>133673409 Vive le roi! >>133673789 This tbqh",,Anonymous,,,,,1500063626 133671707,133674760,2017-07-14 20:21:51,">>133671707 cuck",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1500063711 133671707,133675654,2017-07-14 20:30:21,">>133674496 >they either be forced to abdicate, an internal coup within the royal family can occur, or even a revolution by either the lower classes or nobility. These are all shitty options.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064221 133671707,133675657,2017-07-14 20:30:22,">>133674760 >Flag Checks out",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064222 133671707,133675979,2017-07-14 20:33:32,">>133674066 Divine right is fucking propaganda. The nobility ruled because they acted as a trained military force to defend the people they ruled. They stopped doing that centuries ago, and with it gave up any right they had to rule.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064412 133671707,133676057,2017-07-14 20:34:21,We really need a Monarchist flag to choose for /pol/. We've got some gay Kekistani flag but not one for the true system of governance!,,Anonymous,,,,,1500064461 133671707,133676135,2017-07-14 20:35:01,">>133675979 Not here they didn't. The Queen is the Commander in Chief, which descends from the BoR 1689.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064501 133671707,133676142,2017-07-14 20:35:07,">>133675654 Worked absolutely fine with Edward VIII.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064507 133671707,133676189,2017-07-14 20:35:33,">>133676135 >>133675979 ...what did was laziness of one monarch adding on.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064533 133671707,133676292,2017-07-14 20:36:19,">>133676135 That isn't what I'm talking about and you fucking know it you massive faggot. The nobility, including the king, used to go out and fucking fight. They stopped doing that when guns outstripped armor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064579 133671707,133676293,2017-07-14 20:36:19,">>133671707 >>133675657 >>133675979 I'm wondering what you Monarchy Lads would think is the best. Do me a favour Lads. https://strawpoll.com/4b4f7yxs",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064579 133671707,133676517,2017-07-14 20:38:37,">>133676292 You claimed the monarchs forfeited their right to rule when they gave up military dominance. I didn't even bother responding to the rest because its stuff covered in the first pages of every book about monarchism and is basic reading level rubbish. The Crown has done neither here, out of lack of military command.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064717 133671707,133676642,2017-07-14 20:39:48,">>133676293 >The maker of this poll should buy a bible Kek. Voted eclectic fyi",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064788 133671707,133676687,2017-07-14 20:40:08,">>133676517 >You claimed the monarchs forfeited their right to rule when they gave up military dominance. They literally fought in the battles you dipshit. Standing back and commanding isn't fucking good enough.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500064808 133671707,133676803,2017-07-14 20:41:17,">>133676687 So what is the connection between battlefield commanding and lack of legislative power, as opposed to say, overall command of the Armed Forces (CnC) and lack of legislative power?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500064877 133671707,133676913,2017-07-14 20:42:18,">>133671707 Off with their heads! Happy Bastille Day",,Anonymous,,,,,1500064938 133671707,133677039,2017-07-14 20:43:40,">>133676803 The people with legislative power and the Commander in Chief in a republic are directly elected by the people, who make up the the entirety of the armed forces in a republic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1500065020 133671707,133677624,2017-07-14 20:49:32,">>133677039 Huh? You said >The nobility ruled because they acted as a trained military force to defend the people they ruled. >They stopped doing that centuries ago, and with it gave up any right they had to rule. At first, I thought you meant there was a direct correlation between lack of legislative power and direct battlefield commanding but even as a point, direct battlefield commanding has not existed for 500 years without roles being dispensed to Lieutenants on the field. Atleast not in recent British military history. So what's the difference between overall command, as Commander in Chief, and directly commanding on the battlefield & how does that result in forfeiting your right to rule? To say nothing of the fact the Queen is a 5'3""ft 90 year old woman now.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500065372 133671707,133677728,2017-07-14 20:50:23,">>133677624 >5'3""ft Late, sorry. 5ft3"".",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1500065423 133671707,133680064,2017-07-14 21:14:32,bamp,,Anonymous,1532_look-at-all-these-countries-i-used-to-own_500-383.jpg,0/F3yeCV1PkLVKkYsfD8SQ==,,,1500066872 135697889,135697889,2017-07-31 19:59:08,"Monarchism General Edition: Phillip III ""Good"", the second to last Duke of Burgundy, was born on July 31st, 1396. This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/LyfpyJPt Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Social Media: Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: bpBq5qz",/mg/ - Monarchy General - Phillip the Good edition,Anonymous,phillip_3rd_good.jpg,chCuY3LIfAB2ausP6P8ppA==,US,,1501531148 135697889,135698083,2017-07-31 20:01:12,">>135697889 First for Edward the Confessor",,Anonymous,edward.jpg,GkhMOD5CzXx79Gbic9PRyg==,,,1501531272 135697889,135698497,2017-07-31 20:05:05,Bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1501531505 135697889,135698827,2017-07-31 20:08:08,Did they ever solve the problem of Monarchy and Catholicism? Does the Pope have more power than the Monarch?,,Anonymous,,,,,1501531688 135697889,135699097,2017-07-31 20:10:37,">>135697889 Monarchy s shit and you're a traitor for supporting it. Get the fuck out of my country you piece of shit.",,Anonymous,Princess+Sofia+Princess+Leonor+Spanish+Royals+TaIkqXreVGxl.jpg,28Hw7DHzkawmf2hH0pWh8A==,,,1501531837 135697889,135699112,2017-07-31 20:10:43,">>135698827 the Pope has religious power, the monarch has administrative power. They should work in symphony, not as separate entities.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1501531843 135697889,135699234,2017-07-31 20:11:46,>>135699097,,Anonymous,ludwig_van_baitoven.jpg,nLg/lBMFA4ETVzKD6k+vUQ==,US,,1501531906 135697889,135699302,2017-07-31 20:12:21,">>135698827 That would depend on the particular monarchy. Obviously the king of catholic nation must by definition be subservient to the Pope, contrast with say, the historical Russian monarch with their relationship to the orthodox church.",,Anonymous,,,,,1501531941 139718377,139718377,2017-08-31 07:34:47,Old thread>>139673182,/MG/ - Monarchism General,Anonymous,1504161285785.jpg,OeDRA9RpvWqxW0sz+Cp0VQ==,,,1504164887 139718377,139718432,2017-08-31 07:35:52,">>139718377 Autocratic Meritocracy is objectively superior to Monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504164952 139718377,139718559,2017-08-31 07:37:50,New worlders gtfo,,Anonymous,1490064034269.jpg,99sbC2XmXr8rouh5heL1TA==,,,1504165070 139718377,139718584,2017-08-31 07:38:13,Queen Wilhelmina,,Anonymous,Afbeelding-5.jpg,z3q5ek0AICo/ooegGL4xaA==,NL,,1504165093 139718377,139718589,2017-08-31 07:38:19,">>139718186 You can stop responding because after this post I'll just ignore you, you're either trolling or you're retarded.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504165099 139718377,139718853,2017-08-31 07:42:31,">>139718589 you're not contributing anything to the thread anyway, we will never convince you with out arguments and you will never convince us with your shitflinging, best to just go back to whatever circlejerk you come from",,Anonymous,,,,,1504165351 139718377,139718893,2017-08-31 07:43:08,">>139718377 Fuck off with all your generals shills We only believe in organic generals, not your fabricated slide shit. The monarchy isn't relevant and they're certainly not gonna help any of us since we pay for their millions dollar welfare industry that supports them and their offspring",,Anonymous,1479117384846.jpg,FrwPdvomCAh8FCIAUgjLaA==,NL,,1504165388 139718377,139719084,2017-08-31 07:46:20,">>139718893 >slide shit oh im sorry, let me make a thread about glorous epic kekistan instead!!!",,Anonymous,1497299637747.jpg,PYhSJ+VuEn6VtCba876liQ==,,,1504165580 139718377,139719160,2017-08-31 07:47:37,">>139718853 Because you don't give any arguments. You're just imagining your ideal world and making general statements with no substance. You're claiming inferior bygone system will somehow magically work better today. You're kinda like Nazis here, you love aesthetics and mythical ideal form that never existed in history, but substance is your enemy.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504165657 139718377,139719199,2017-08-31 07:48:09,">>139718589 >butthurt troll accuses others of trolling Oh no, we'll lose so much quality discourse if you go cry elsewhere.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504165689 139718377,139719279,2017-08-31 07:49:26,">>139719160 >Because you don't give any arguments you were BTFO to oblivion and back in the last thread and you kept moving the goalposts and creating strawman arguments you're not worth my time little brainlet, move along, adults are talking here",,Anonymous,,,,,1504165766 139718377,139719478,2017-08-31 07:52:53,">>139718377 Elective Monarchy = Best Monarchy get all the good sides of monarchy without all the bad sides >continuity of government over longer streches of time than allowed by democracy allows for stability and long-term planning >insane or inbred children can't inherit because they'll never get elected >only the best of the king's offspring becomes the next king >in the event of no children, instead of a succession civil war, a new king and dynasty are chosen Of course, steps should be taken to insure that electors can't be influenced by outside forces as was the case in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. You could even have all the subject of the king vote on the new king, thus ensuring that the new king will have to care about all his subjects, not just those closest to him.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1504165973 139718377,139719582,2017-08-31 07:54:32,Real Monarch of the Netherlands coming through,,Anonymous,Rightful King of the Netherlands and Spain.jpg,Eir1btBffkPZmUx/5x+njw==,NL,,1504166072 139718377,139719651,2017-08-31 07:55:41,">>139718377 symbolic monarchy is best monarchy. Part of the reason the US is so fucked up and divided is cuz every year you are ruled by someone only representing half the country. Just get a king in there to fulfill all the symbolic duties of the President, let the President be more of an administrator... That way people will stop voting for whoever is the most charismatic and instead will vote for whoever is the best.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1504166141 139718377,139719659,2017-08-31 07:55:49,">>139719279 No I wasn't, and you're not an adult. >>139719478 Elective monarchy is not a real monarchy. And rulers will always aim to make it hereditary. As it practically became in HRE. Both HRE and Poland were a mess at that period.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504166149 139718377,139719696,2017-08-31 07:56:25,">>139718377 gib link to that discord server",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1504166185 139718377,139719773,2017-08-31 07:57:37,">>139719478 As i said in the last thread in my opinion it should be a strong hereditary monarch + an elected parliament representing the people and governing the state, a 19th century style constitutional monarchy basically of course inbred retards need to be skipped over by law and of course the monarch who starts the dynasty must be worthy of it, not any random politician or whatever, not even ""blue blood"", but someone great who distinguishes himself, like napoleon bonaparte did and made himself emperor(im just using him as an example, not saying he was right to take the bourbons throne)",,Anonymous,,,,,1504166257 139718377,139719877,2017-08-31 07:59:26,">>139719659 How is it not a real monarchy? And I stated that the first choice is the king's blood - you can't pick someone not of the king's blood as long as one such person lives. (under the assumption they aren't disqualified via insanity or crippling incompetence and stupidity, as defined by the rules of election). There has to be continuity of government over a longer period of time that monarchy provides, but there also has to be a check on the king's power to insure the realm isn't ruined by morons or lunatics sitting the throne.",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1504166366 139718377,139719972,2017-08-31 08:01:09,">>139719773 >strong hereditary monarch >elected parliament How the fuck does that work? Either monarch is strong and parliament is just an advisory body, or monarch is limited and parliament will assume more and more power. As it happened virtually everywhere where parliament was acknowledged as a body that can't just be dismissed at monarch's whim. Duality doesn't work for long time. >must be worthy And who is worthy? Since I suspect you're a Serb, how about you read the history of Byzantine Empire. You have so many examples where incompetents seized power simply because they were brutal and cunning. But that doesn't translate automatically into a good ruler.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504166469 139718377,139719973,2017-08-31 08:01:10,">>139718377 DIVINE RIGHT TO RULE",,Anonymous,a6558a35c502a0004bc0fd79ae8d6270.png,plWKNcUCoABLwP15ro1icA==,SG,,1504166470 139718377,139719997,2017-08-31 08:01:27,"Starting this thread off with my response utterly BTFOing the faggot from Mount Nigger in the other thread, who I refuse to give (You's), in order for any other republicucks to get learned: >you have entire fucking history of retarded sons inheriting great fathers and ruining the state No, you don't. You have the selection of a minority of circumstances that favour your tired, corny argument, several despots among thousands that have reigned, whose names you have had impressed upon you by the liberal globalist elite at school, versus thousands of years of virtually uninterrupted sovereign rule everywhere on Earth, and thousands of gracious rulers. >majority of monarchies historically didn't have anything close to longevity of US government Every country in Europe that abolished their monarchy (except Portugal and France) did so only after being utterly devastated in two World Wars - I repeat, it took tens of millions of casualties to take down Europe's monarchies. I can think of no greater testament to its longevity - the second of which, by the way, was started by two republican dictators, and would not have materialised had their respective monarchies been intact. There, two examples of the vacuum left by faggy republicanism leading directly to the most genocidal regimes to have walked the Earth, almost as many examples as you can find faults with monarchy. What's that about ""transfer of power not being smooth"" again? What's the ""Reign of Terror""? There are just as many shitty succession stories as there are instances of republicanism being met with even greater turmoil than what preceded it, the latter of course being far, far more likely, given how short the time span of your gay system's predominance has been, and how destructive it has been relatively that it managed to spring up both Hitler and Stalin in that short window.",,Anonymous,1475712703461.png,ex23Mj2izAhxkumSgrFCmQ==,GB,,1504166487 139718377,139720030,2017-08-31 08:02:01,">>139719997 Honestly, I think it's just down to cognitive dissonance. You elect a sociopath who has his own material gain at heart, who serves only to extend his own influence, who almost always represents a foreign backer's financial interests, and yet you are spineless enough to believe that the population at large are in control. Drop the fucking pretence already, democracy is a literal fallacy, every democratic country's true government is a financial government loyal only to the highest bidder, and it will be that way until you do the safest thing you can do, which is centralise power in a sovereign rather than maintain a stifling bureaucracy of insidious, unscrupulous kikeslaves, who offer vague promises forever but only ever seem to make good on things that no one ever seemed to ask for, like filling the country up with shitskins. Suck my fucking cock.",,Anonymous,1479350865147.jpg,Ze5HMz/meLkK1kzoJYvLjg==,GB,,1504166521 139718377,139720088,2017-08-31 08:03:01,">>139717988 It actually died in 1848 and was about to be reestablished after Napoleon III downfall. It failed because the pretender to the throne was an autist bickering about some flag aesthetic, time passed and the opportunity went away. One could also argue that the Vth republic is also a kind of monarchy, that is at least how De Gaulle thought of it",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504166581 139718377,139720168,2017-08-31 08:04:34,"@139719972 >How the fuck does that work? im not here to hold your hand little brainlet, go read how 19th century monarchies worked",,Anonymous,,,,,1504166674 139718377,139720209,2017-08-31 08:05:27,">>139719972 >You have so many examples where incompetents seized power simply because they were brutal and cunning. Are we talking ERE or USA?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504166727 139718377,139720250,2017-08-31 08:06:09,">>139720209 don't give it (you)s, it is not here for a serious discussion, it is here to troll",,Anonymous,,,,,1504166769 139718377,139720285,2017-08-31 08:06:48,"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton best emperor coming trough lads. Whats your favourite king/queen, emperor/empress btw?",,Anonymous,,,BA,,1504166808 139718377,139720531,2017-08-31 08:10:45,">>139719084 >Implying I ever been interested in Kekistan Though it's a nice shill technique come to think about it, same as occupy wallstreet, they tried to make anonymous look like a bunch of idiots, not that worked since Donald Trump got elected POTUS in the not so current year and is still not impeached Suck on it kike shill race traitor, choke on it.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1504167045 139718377,139720707,2017-08-31 08:13:24,I think the montenegro lad is confusing absolute monarchy with monarchy,,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504167204 139718377,139720784,2017-08-31 08:14:29,">>139719997 >versus thousands of years of virtually uninterrupted sovereign rule everywhere on Earth, and thousands of gracious rulers. Then you won't have problems naming those dynasties that had several successions and all were good rulers and successions were smooth. And don't use Roman Empire as an example. They used adoption or just appointed successors, who often weren't their kids. >liberal globalist elite No such thing, at least not in that sense. Society and technology changed and old regimes either adapted and slowly perished or were disposed of. >Every country in Europe that abolished their monarchy (except Portugal and France) did so only after being utterly devastated in two World Wars Spain? Besides, those monarchies were either becoming constitutional, were constitutional, or were suffering severe issues (Russia). >What's the ""Reign of Terror""? Was there a reign of terror every time French government changed? No, it was a one-time event after monarchy was deposed. Same monarch invited foreign troops to put him back on throne and kill his alleged subjects. You don't find that problematic? >instances of republicanism being met with even greater turmoil than what preceded it We have to restrict ourselves geographically here, and remember that states don't exist in a vacuum. >how destructive Do you have any idea how much life has improved for global population as whole since 19th century? >You elect a sociopath You can also breed a sociopath. It's same shit. >who serves only to extend his own influence He serves for a limited period of time. Monarchs aimed same. To extend their and power of their family.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504167269 139718377,139721086,2017-08-31 08:18:27,">>139720707 he's just strawmanning first he comes up with his own definition of what a REAL monarchy is(what you support is not a REAL monarchy, only he knows what a REAL monarchy is) and then he argues against it(not even real arguments against it, just really vague arguments like ""ah plenty of bad things happened in the past, when there was monarchy, therefore it's bad"") really just ignore the brainlet, his thoughts are all over the place, his brain is scrambled",,Anonymous,,,,,1504167507 139718377,139721105,2017-08-31 08:18:37,"Spain is still a monarchy, genius. Technically, the King of Spain also is the King of France. >To extend their and power of their family Except that's beneficial to their nation.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504167517 139718377,139721142,2017-08-31 08:19:03,">>139720784 Spain is still a monarchy",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504167543 139718377,139721193,2017-08-31 08:19:50,">>139720209 And did those incompetents totally ruin the lives of Americans? Depends on who you ask, but not really. They keep chugging on and live nice lives compared to majority of global population. And everything decays, it's normal. Besides, I hate that I was dragged into this discussion, because I'm not an idiot who finds all those kings and nobles evil. They lived in a different time under different conditions, in a system that made sense for that period. It doesn't make any sense today. It would improve nothing. People are far more literate now, technology changed things enormously, monarchies of past are simply history, you can't recreate it.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504167590 139718377,139721282,2017-08-31 08:20:51,">>139721105 >Technically, the King of Spain also is the King of France. no , this is not true the king of spain give up all claims to the french throne in 1714",,Anonymous,rey.jpg,P/rMuWd1ZGISkyQUuVpqMw==,,,1504167651 139718377,139721308,2017-08-31 08:21:14,">>139718377 God Empress Maria Theresa",,Anonymous,Andreas_Moeller_-_Erzherzogin_Maria_Theresia_-_Kunsthistorisches_Museum.jpg,6N8eVniCjTEQhkXFsumUtg==,CA,,1504167674 139718377,139721355,2017-08-31 08:21:53,">And did those incompetents totally ruin the lives of Americans? First off, it was a joke, but otherwise yes. Never heard of what Clinton did with Sally Mae? Whole generation utterly fucked. >People are far more literate now, technology changed things enormously, All the more reason to return to monarchy. It'd be even more effective. >>139721282 Different king.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504167713 139718377,139721377,2017-08-31 08:22:11,">>139721282 Lmao and who will enforce that do you think? If he is asked to he will get it, unless the Perfidious Albion decides to get involved again",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504167731 139718377,139721438,2017-08-31 08:22:53,">>139721142 >>139721105 I meant that Spaniards removed monarchy, without millions of dead after or during two world wars. >Except that's beneficial to their nation. It's also beneficial to an elected ruler. He lives in that nation and his wealth, however he acquired it, is in his nation. Now problems are appearing but that's because of globalism, and monarchy isn't really a cure for that. >>139721086 I simply said that states like Norway and so on are not monarchies in functional sense, since their monarchs don't really rule.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504167773 139718377,139721471,2017-08-31 08:23:23,">>139721105 >the King of Spain also is the King of France. i don't think so Felipe IV is king of Spain, Louis XX should be king of France",,Anonymous,,,,,1504167803 139718377,139721527,2017-08-31 08:24:08,">>139721355 >First off, it was a joke, but otherwise yes. Never heard of what Clinton did with Sally Mae? Whole generation utterly fucked. You're exaggerating and heavily exaggerating. >All the more reason to return to monarchy. It'd be even more effective. But why? Why would I surrender my rights to one fucking family? Besides, if you wanna know Montenegro is practically a monarchy, our guy is ruling for 27 years or so, now from the shadows. It's not really that great.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504167848 139718377,139721630,2017-08-31 08:25:32,">>139721527 >Why would I surrender my rights to one fucking family? what rights are you surrendering ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504167932 139718377,139721713,2017-08-31 08:26:47,">>139721282 >>139721377 And also not only is there no one to enforce it, it's legally void anyway according to the fundamental laws of the kingdom. The crown is not atthe disposal of the king, that's why Louis XIV's will was thrown to the trash by the Parliement, he couldn't choose his heir",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504168007 139718377,139721725,2017-08-31 08:26:53,">>139721630 Plus you do the same thing with democracy, >why do I have to surrender all my rights to a government?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168013 139718377,139721726,2017-08-31 08:26:56,">I meant that Spaniards removed monarchy They didn't, though. Felipe VI is currently the Spanish head of state. >It's also beneficial to an elected ruler. Not so much. An elected leader can leave, and has no long term investment in their chosen nation. So they can stripmine for themselves and their (((benefactors))), then leave after the next election, and be replaced with their clone to do the same thing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504168016 139718377,139721779,2017-08-31 08:27:54,">>139721630 To elect and be elected, for start.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168074 139718377,139721807,2017-08-31 08:28:16,">>139721725 Social contract and nationalism.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168096 139718377,139721810,2017-08-31 08:28:18,"The Bloodline Kingship comes from the Archons. Archon means Lord, Master or Ruler. They are the Anunna gods who came down from ""heaven"" The Anunnaki. The Bloodline Kingship of Anu who came to Ki. Ki is an old name for Earth These gods brought down Kingship to Earth. They ruled as Godkings. The Archons.",,Anonymous,1619161_10151885210142011_1428951486_n.jpg,Yt4O5/D+7WsmVMuqarhBYQ==,,,1504168098 139718377,139721880,2017-08-31 08:29:19,"The Illuminati are the 13 human families that claim to have the most direct Bloodline Connection to the gods / Archons. So they claim they have the Divine Right to Rule because of this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168159 139718377,139721901,2017-08-31 08:29:33,">>139718377 >tfw we lost WW1",,Anonymous,1494773237584.jpg,U3TJSSwdIVUjrYPxs8AzPQ==,DE,,1504168173 139718377,139721916,2017-08-31 08:29:44,">>139721779 >>139721807 your morals are different from ours we are christian and nationalist, you are a commie we will never come to an agreement",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168184 139718377,139721917,2017-08-31 08:29:45,">>139721726 They did in past dude, that's my point. And current Spanish monarchy is same as that in Norway or Sweden. Their monarch doesn't rule. >can leave So can monarch. Have you really never heard of cases when monarchs escaped, historically?",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168185 139718377,139721928,2017-08-31 08:29:54,">You're exaggerating and heavily exaggerating. You're either naive or economically and politically illiterate. Probably both. The deregulations to the banking and finance industry have also fucked everyone, and fucked people in other nations, no less. >But why? Because we have less to worry about in terms of foreign powers or even local dissent from the aristos. >Why would I surrender my rights to one fucking family? No one said anything about surrendering rights. And you're going to have a government one way or another, why wouldn't you want a good one?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504168194 139718377,139721977,2017-08-31 08:30:40,">>139718893 From what I gather from Hoppe. Monarchy has advantages against fully democratic societies in the sense that the ruler 'owns his property' i.e. the country and thus invests (usually with his own wealth) to improve it. Is this right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168240 139718377,139722020,2017-08-31 08:31:22,">>139721779 >To elect and be elected, for start. you said that in montenegro a guy is rulling for 27 years so you dont really have the right to be elected + you can still become a prime minister in a monarchy",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168282 139718377,139722023,2017-08-31 08:31:24,">>139721977 >>139718893 idk why I quoted you",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168284 139718377,139722132,2017-08-31 08:32:54,">>139721916 I'm a commie because I believe that I have a right to elect the person ruling over me, and the right to be elected by other people into office? >nationalist Are you aware that nationalism and monarchism were historically opposing ideologies? Probably not, fuck history right.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168374 139718377,139722154,2017-08-31 08:33:08,">>139721901 >tfw everyone lost WW1",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504168388 139718377,139722159,2017-08-31 08:33:12,">>139721901 >iktfb",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1504168392 139718377,139722173,2017-08-31 08:33:28,">>139721779 You can still be elected as a mayor of a town or a minister or a member of parliament you fool, you just cant elected as head of state.",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1504168408 139718377,139722183,2017-08-31 08:33:31,">>139722020 Exactly, so it's functionally a monarchy, and I fucking hate it. In fact it's a sort of neo-feudalism.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168411 139718377,139722191,2017-08-31 08:33:39,">>139721977 This is a good point, as said in the last thread, the monarch is born and raised for the position, he didn't promise anything to anyone, he wasn't promoted by a party, he wasn't financed by a company, he is born to rule, simply put",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168419 139718377,139722208,2017-08-31 08:33:57,">Their monarch doesn't rule. They can, but ""choose"" not to. >So can monarch. Have you really never heard of cases when monarchs escaped, historically? You're missing the point. Right now, Trump could work towards changing enough legislature to truly rape and pillage the USA for himself and his corporate allies, then just piss of to Zurich and enjoy the spoils. In fact, he has no reason not to. A monarch who tries that is condemning his own nation (an extension of himself), and robbing his descendants. Essentially, he isn't a monarch if he does that, the same way that you're not playing monopoly anymore if you rob the bank and throw away the board.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504168437 139718377,139722255,2017-08-31 08:34:30,">>139722173 What's the point of electing anyone when monarch can just override his decisions and dismiss him whenever he wants?",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168470 139718377,139722306,2017-08-31 08:35:16,">>139722132 >Probably not, fuck history right. That's certainly how you think in the heyday of nationalism, europe was ruled by kings, any nationalist would cut your tongue off for insulting his king, my commie friend",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168516 139718377,139722368,2017-08-31 08:35:55,">Then you won't have problems naming those dynasties that had several successions and all were good rulers and successions were smooth. Here's a map of monarchies that lasted so long that it took the Jews orchestrating millions of casualties in a period of three decades to get rid of. >No such thing whoissoros.mp4 >Was there a reign of terror every time French government changed Yes, hey seem to have this strange habit of flipping cars, torching buildings and chimping out at every provocation/minor civil disruption that persists to this very day. >Same monarch invited foreign troops to put him back on throne and kill his alleged subjects. You don't find that problematic? No? Fuck those proto-communist plebeian faggots. >We have to restrict ourselves geographically here, and remember that states don't exist in a vacuum. First, you'd have to explain why. >Do you have any idea how much life has improved for global population as whole since 19th century? Yes, in spite of many attempts by disruptive, republican socialist trash to reverse it. >You can also breed a sociopath. It's same shit. But unlike in a democracy, at least non-sociopaths aren't barred from entry. >Monarchs aimed same. To extend their and power of their family. And how do they do it? What asset is it that they have a rational incentive to maintain in order that they can hand down and retain the power of their family? Who is to a country as a homeowner is to his property?",,Anonymous,1449202824463s.jpg,pqOxH5mHVOmJJ2xUIuJDMg==,GB,,1504168555 139718377,139722423,2017-08-31 08:36:41,">>139722132 >I believe that I have a right to elect the person ruling over me >right Hilarious. Anyway, political illiterates like yourself are exactly why democracy is a ridiculous notion. > nationalism and monarchism were historically opposing ideologies? And yet another retarded statement. The monarch IS the nation. You might be thinking of tribalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504168601 139718377,139722435,2017-08-31 08:36:50,">>139722208 No they can't, and if they tried they would be deposed. And Trump is robbing his descendants too. His property is in USA. >then just piss off to Zurich And you have never heard of monarchs who were deposed and did exactly the same?",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168610 139718377,139722436,2017-08-31 08:36:50,">>139722255 The point is, the guy you elected has his power in check, he can't just start importing rapefugees, when the king tells him to fuck off he cant start forcing the church to marry faggots when the king tells him to fuck off etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168610 139718377,139722455,2017-08-31 08:37:09,">>139722255 whats the point of doing anything when you can just die whenever?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504168629 139718377,139722507,2017-08-31 08:37:52,">I have a right to elect the person ruling over me, and the right to be elected by other people into office? LMAO. No, you don't. >every democratic country's true government is a financial government loyal only to the highest bidder every democratic country's true government is a financial government loyal only to the highest bidder >every democratic country's true government is a financial government loyal only to the highest bidder every democratic country's true government is a financial government loyal only to the highest bidder",,Anonymous,1491424163876.png,ydNPyI4N0wHLh/RGYfkoYQ==,GB,,1504168672 139718377,139722511,2017-08-31 08:37:54,">>139722255 Whats the point of laws then, when the president can pardon anyone?",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1504168674 139718377,139722553,2017-08-31 08:38:36,Who else wants King Charles' first act as King to dissolve parliament?,,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1504168716 139718377,139722582,2017-08-31 08:38:56,"Seriously, reading this shit gave me a mini-stroke, I'll just exclude myself from conversation, you won, keep larping, it's really not worth it.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1504168736 139718377,139722586,2017-08-31 08:38:58,">No they can't, and if they tried they would be deposed. Hasn't happened so far. They only kicked Clinton out for perjury. >And Trump is robbing his descendants too. His property is in USA. No, he's setting them up for further success, because he has no position for them to inherit within the country he leads. >And you have never heard of monarchs who were deposed and did exactly the same? And are they still monarchs of their nations? If no, then it looks like i'm right and you aren't.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504168738 139718377,139722589,2017-08-31 08:39:01,">>139722132 They only were opposed because it was France vs Europe, they became nationalists pretty much after. Unless you want to feny the German Empire and Austria-Hungary weren't full of fanatics. Hell, even Prussia with Friedrick the Great had some kind of nationalism, though it was mostly centered around his persona You would even find some instance of nationalism centuries too like after the battle of Bouvines",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504168741 139718377,139722626,2017-08-31 08:39:48,">>139722582 >you won Duh. You had no arguments.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504168788 139718377,139722635,2017-08-31 08:39:52,">>139721977 yes the monarch owns the country and he can pass it to his children so if the country gets richer he gets richer and since his children can inherit it and he dosent have to worry about getting relected he can play the long game in a democracy you elect a ruler who only cares about getting reelected and he dosent care about the long game since we will not be in power in the next 20 years",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168792 139718377,139722673,2017-08-31 08:40:22,">>139722589 But I would agree with you that the traditional nationalists fight for the Fatherland while the nationalists in monarchy fight for the King but at some point king and country started to mean the same",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504168822 139718377,139722806,2017-08-31 08:42:23,">>139722582 come back when you have a better understanding of how governments work",,Anonymous,,,,,1504168943 139718377,139722890,2017-08-31 08:43:35,">>139722553 Our future King.",,Anonymous,charles-348381.jpg,Ha0WYmg3kHl6wMptgmLq5g==,NZ,,1504169015 139718377,139722895,2017-08-31 08:43:46,,,Anonymous,3987.jpg,H8WyeOPS6wvUKVe1zrxXQA==,BG,,1504169026 139718377,139722935,2017-08-31 08:44:14,">>139722183 >Exactly, so it's functionally a monarchy, and I fucking hate it. but is not really a monarchy beacuse the guy kids wont inherit the country so he dosent have to care what happens to montenegro bacuse he can just take his money and leave a monarch cannot do this beacuse his country is his wealth if the country is rich he and his chldren will be rich",,Anonymous,,,,,1504169054 139718377,139723038,2017-08-31 08:46:03,">>139722635 but it must be constitutional and the people represented, we can't have a king with absolute power to abuse his people, the peoples interests must be represented and the kings power checked as i said, like most monarchies of the 19th century/early 20th century",,Anonymous,,,,,1504169163 139718377,139723071,2017-08-31 08:46:24,"Prince Alexander I Battenberg >>139722895 Tsar Ferdinand and Kaiser Wilhelm II",,Anonymous,1063.jpg,FVOrzW/7cVlfLdlcoiDKrA==,BG,,1504169184 139718377,139723255,2017-08-31 08:49:23,>>139722895,,Anonymous,boris_iii.jpg,X9O8vs5zH/Li5o1QW5Ab4w==,,,1504169363 139718377,139723279,2017-08-31 08:49:45,">>139718559 Australia is new world and we're monarchs.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504169385 139718377,139723331,2017-08-31 08:50:39,Tsar Boris III,,Anonymous,boris.jpg,N4V4wPGNVhLNyQnUx5ntaw==,BG,,1504169439 139718377,139723424,2017-08-31 08:51:57,">>139718377 Monarchy for Europe and laws against muslim jews seeping into power !",,Anonymous,,,,,1504169517 139718377,139723537,2017-08-31 08:53:48,>HE LITERALLY SURRENDERS,,Anonymous,1448775175478.jpg,QpC6Z2DhV/XJopmMZplZwA==,GB,,1504169628 139718377,139723539,2017-08-31 08:53:51,">disgusting Authoritarian monarchs ITT The only form of monarchy worth respecting is a constitutional monarchy that is limited to enforcing law/natural rights and defense. Thats the system that worked the best of all systems we've tried. Took us from the middle ages to the modern world. Authoritarian divine right bullshit stagnates you to middle age-tier nonsense. The true red pill is that monarchy is necessary to rule of a small government, any small government with democracy will grow over time.",,Anonymous,moncap.png,nrWgEfOtY8oR8gWUQtd8yQ==,AU,,1504169631 139718377,139723593,2017-08-31 08:54:38,">>139723424 there should be laws against ANY non-christians getting any position of power",,Anonymous,,,,,1504169678 139718377,139723610,2017-08-31 08:54:49,">>139723255 Tsar Simeon II",,Anonymous,Simeon-Saxkoburggotski1.jpg,QyBrTJHDO4sjq+s5jSgkzQ==,BG,,1504169689 139718377,139723746,2017-08-31 08:57:02,">>139723255 And this is the heir of Simeon II - Prince Boris, we have to make him Tsar Boris IV",,Anonymous,boris-prince-ofternovo.jpg,P0QKukbk5fenwDYJMbnkKA==,BG,,1504169822 139718377,139723903,2017-08-31 08:59:12,">>139723539 I agree every christian adult male of the kingdom must have rights and privileges, we need a switzerland like system, but with a strong monarch and exclusive for Christians and preferably men only(head of the family) if it's not too radical",,Anonymous,,,,,1504169952 139718377,139724643,2017-08-31 09:10:39,">>139718377 >tfw you're so insecure autist that you have to revive every possible dead ideology and think it's better than others on a japanese anime imageboard thinking anyone gives a fuck about your larp C R I N G E",,Anonymous,images.duckduckgo.jpg,P3hjh2TaqU/EoFY18IbhIw==,,,1504170639 139718377,139724971,2017-08-31 09:15:56,">>139724643 Are you retarded? You do know that monarchies exist right? Sorry to burst your kike bubble",,Anonymous,,,MK,,1504170956 139718377,139725100,2017-08-31 09:17:54,">>139724643 How many gallons of cum is your faggot brain lapped up on right now?",,Anonymous,940px-World_Monarchies.svg.png,aDqbG557xLVPXchcUeaTtg==,GB,,1504171074 139718377,139725575,2017-08-31 09:25:02,"God damn guys, mountain nigger is a troll, just ignore him. >>139721916 Speak for yourself m8, not all of us are slaves to the Spiritual Jew, pic related. You're right on the nationalist not though.",,Anonymous,image.jpg,tTcivS0ln+lz7Vt4/cXOnQ==,,,1504171502 139718377,139725748,2017-08-31 09:27:28,">>139725575 *nationalist thought though. Don't do drugs kids, even if you need them to sleep. >>139723903 Go to bed Paul, you had everything correct but Muh Jebus",,Anonymous,,,,,1504171648 139718377,139725889,2017-08-31 09:29:19,,,Anonymous,1493325360909.png,QrzQru8NueapuVGVP8x5ew==,GB,,1504171759 139718377,139725938,2017-08-31 09:29:59,,,Anonymous,1490070267900.gif,nB615yCMCR0TlZTaSlTKuQ==,,,1504171799 139718377,139725991,2017-08-31 09:30:42,">>139724643 >tfw your so insecure you use a larp flag and protest against people wanting a strong and stable government form",,Anonymous,1480362285909.jpg,NYP2cLxwyEWND1uBgAGriw==,GB,,1504171842 139718377,139726074,2017-08-31 09:32:06,">>139723539 >Authoritarian divine right bullshit stagnates you to middle age-tier nonsense. What was the renaissance, the highlight of the absolute monarchy. Constitutionalism is just modernist trash.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504171926 139718377,139726100,2017-08-31 09:32:33,">>139724971 >>139725100 >>139725991 It is impossible to consider a belief more liberated than another, at due time it will eventually become another form of enslavement for most of its adherents. You cannot escape nature's endless cycle of creation and destruction i.e All political systems are destined to rise and fall and your special snowflake ideology is no different pic related king of Sweden, the epitome of monarchy",,Anonymous,kingofsweden.jpg,e8iabJJLQjI38o4rVORSlg==,,,1504171953 139718377,139726299,2017-08-31 09:35:21,">>139726100 >special snowflake ideology is no different >existed for millennia led us from the dark ages to the renaissance >d*mocracy >existed as a mainstream idealogy for 200 years and has slowly been failing us with women's rights and equality That pic is fake btw.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504172121 139718377,139726397,2017-08-31 09:36:38,">>139718893 >pay >the monarchy more than pays itself in Briatin",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504172198 139718377,139727160,2017-08-31 09:46:35,,,Anonymous,1488764932094.jpg,TmWpz9kA2r5oyXcqVL0+sg==,,,1504172795 139718377,139727685,2017-08-31 09:53:36,">>139726299 >led us from the dark ages to the renaissance Which led us to the modern age and democracy, proving that monarchy can not be upholded to eternity. And to say that democracy existed for 200 years, you must be outright retarded. Democracy originated from ancient greece, which was its golden age. They both had bad and good times, per se but one can not consider any more superior or inferior, for they are the subject of death and rebirth, and to negate this principle is to negate the natural laws. One cannot prosper without the other to keep it in check. >That pic is fake btw. There are a lot of pictures about him being in retarded hats, are those fake too?",,Anonymous,kingofsweden2.jpg,7EnB5KJLAVvPGsKc8ckFlg==,,,1504173216 139718377,139728363,2017-08-31 10:02:19,">>139727685 >Greek democracy is modern democracy Poor bait",,Anonymous,,,,,1504173739 139718377,139728811,2017-08-31 10:08:00,">>139727685 >And to say that democracy existed for 200 years, you must be outright retarded. >Democracy originated from ancient greece, which was its golden age. As a MAINSTREAM ideology learn to read, moreover Greek ""democracy"" was a demarchy in most cases. How can it not be upheld eternally like you said ? I3t still exists in some places therefore that it false according to your own statement. Governing systems can be objectively superior to one another : if you look at facts you'll see capitalist countries are much more successful than communist ones.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504174080 139718377,139730940,2017-08-31 10:35:17,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1504175717 139718377,139731141,2017-08-31 10:37:54,">>139728363 >implying systems don't change >medieval monarchy is the same as modern monarchy >le ancient greekz wuzn't a democracy meem Well, democracy means ""rule of the people"", and monarchy means ""a sole ruler"" >The central events of the Athenian democracy were the meetings of the assembly (ἐkkλησία, ekklêsia). Unlike a parliament, the assembly's members were not elected, but attended by right when they chose. Greek democracy created at Athens was direct, rather than representative: any adult male citizen over the age of 20 could take part,[26] and it was a duty to do so. The officials of the democracy were in part elected by the Assembly and in large part chosen by lottery in a process called sortition. >The assembly had four main functions: it made executive pronouncements (decrees, such as deciding to go to war or granting citizenship to a foreigner); it elected some officials; it legislated; and it tried political crimes. The standard format was that of speakers making speeches for and against a position followed by a general vote (usually by show of hands) of yes or no. This sounds like democracy to me.",,Anonymous,images.duckduckgo.jpg,oQJwzhNITFJ5HdI81tFy8g==,,,1504175874 139718377,139731403,2017-08-31 10:41:41,">>139731141 Do the people rule today as they ruled in ancient greece?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504176101 139718377,139731882,2017-08-31 10:47:52,">>139728811 >as a MAINSTREAM ideology learn to read >I'm going to cut out a specific timeline and will not look at the whole picture >How can it not be upheld eternally like you said ? Well, i believe the that monarchism originated in ancient mesopotamia, and since then it came a long way. It should be mistaken that if it takes longer to die out it is eternal. Slow and steady, it is going into the abyss, see pic >>13973114 That cannot be argued, also considering that there are more and more democratic countries by the year. I also doubt that you can commonly see a person who openly declares himself politically as an ""absolute monarchist"" on the street. Constitutional monarchism is just another step down into the grave, a weakened and more democratic form of aboslutism, which is the most prevalent form of monarchism (at least in the west) >I3t elaborate? >Governing systems can be objectively superior to one another They all have their pros and cons, for example most capitalist countries are full of ""refugees"" and the like, while having immense economic growth and standard of living. Communist and post communist countries are more traditonal, patriotic and economically backwards. USSR was doing well and good also, but collapsed, like every form of goverment does. Capitalism will eventually collapse too, although its circle seems longer than that of communism. It is impossible to have good without evil, light without darkness, beauty without ugliness, order without chaos.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504176472 139718377,139732160,2017-08-31 10:51:14,"Η.Μ. Juan Carlos I, King of Spain (left) vs H.M. Constantine II, King of Greece (right)",,Anonymous,1_ Juan Carlos King Constantine Greece Karate.jpg,dxd32c/+A+XRj+dsRfEB4Q==,GR,,1504176674 139718377,139732483,2017-08-31 10:55:02,">>139731403 I continuously have made the point that everything moves, everything changes. The one who is mainstream to than which is not, and not surprisingly ideas change too. And is modern monarchy similar to that of the medieval/renassiance world?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504176902 139718377,139732571,2017-08-31 10:56:09,,,Anonymous,1475037128927.jpg,5+26UaqPHlyvNsqgtq00ew==,,,1504176969 139718377,139733893,2017-08-31 11:14:02,">>139732571 Ah ol' Napoopan, great guy desu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504178042 139718377,139734360,2017-08-31 11:19:57,">>139719696 dKXSSxF put this after discord gg",,Anonymous,,,,,1504178397 139718377,139734651,2017-08-31 11:23:08,">>139722895 >>139723071 >being proud of having a foreign ruler",,Anonymous,,,,,1504178588 139718377,139734726,2017-08-31 11:23:57,">>139720285 best emperor",,Anonymous,paul_1.jpg,UXFWI2z9aF22ef+SJqX3pg==,,,1504178637 139718377,139734989,2017-08-31 11:26:57,">>139734726 >Paul >Not his vastly superior son",,Anonymous,image.jpg,/9Q1pY4PgeyfrRKWj7Ywqw==,,,1504178817 139718377,139736165,2017-08-31 11:40:43,">>139733893 he's a cool dude",,Anonymous,,,,,1504179643 139718377,139736185,2017-08-31 11:40:58,">>139734989 his son was good, and maybe even better in personal qualities. But I like Paul's policies more desu.",,Anonymous,paul_1_monument.jpg,Qfo7UpoQuZJgw7W5u8QM2Q==,,,1504179658 139718377,139736555,2017-08-31 11:45:28,">>139718377 I think the superior form of monarchical society is something like what Navarro was in Spain >decentralized >local priests >nearly everyone was nobility and landowners Absolutism and royal courts just leads to a renewed liberalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504179928 139718377,139736933,2017-08-31 11:50:02,">>139736555 Lichtenstein is probably a good example of modern monarchy done right >The Monarch actually has powers",,Anonymous,,,,,1504180202 139718377,139737356,2017-08-31 11:55:31,">>139736933 But what do you think of decentralization and increase in local nobility(something like Jeffersons yeomen)? I think decentralization is just what the modern West needs right now along with the respect and restorative powers of local landowning nobility",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504180531 139718377,139737444,2017-08-31 11:56:28,"Bow to your king BOW TO ME",,Anonymous,1499793931492.jpg,qxJTx+hSMUoUzAMgBlMw4Q==,US,,1504180588 139718377,139737468,2017-08-31 11:56:48,">>139737444 My bloodline is the purest",,Anonymous,Habsburg1.jpg,yrRoJqyRCsJrMotpKJ5QUQ==,US,,1504180608 139718377,139737538,2017-08-31 11:57:30,">>139737468 Kiss your king",,Anonymous,Habsburg2.png,/mRZV3KXYoSP0C5XSDrK7g==,US,,1504180650 139718377,139737619,2017-08-31 11:58:26,">>139737538 Royalty is the most beautiful, every commoner is jealous",,Anonymous,1499795540410.jpg,cdTELsjgHdpUdyCIDkg7HQ==,US,,1504180706 139718377,139737647,2017-08-31 11:58:54,">>139737444 > when those digits go unchecked",,Anonymous,pope_check_em.jpg,Rgka3cXgjgeZvs9ibNPLQw==,,,1504180734 139718377,139737673,2017-08-31 11:59:11,">>139737619 ""African hair"", what do you mean?",,Anonymous,1499793623488.jpg,jbmiD1zA9zIGpCbbxkavZQ==,US,,1504180751 139718377,139737742,2017-08-31 12:00:04,">>139737673 I was born for this job Were you born for your job? That's right, I didn't think so Kiss my ring",,Anonymous,Hapsburg3.jpg,CH1quKHDqjljpc6iCPzbmg==,US,,1504180804 139718377,139737777,2017-08-31 12:00:40,">>139737444 >Had king nigger for eight years Go ahead, you try and rage out at your betters.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504180840 139718377,139737829,2017-08-31 12:01:20,>>139737777,,Anonymous,kim_jon_il_checkem.jpg,5JVTMMSF9EJ2l3jfCgXUDw==,,,1504180880 139718377,139737940,2017-08-31 12:02:45,">>139737538 >>139737673 >thinks Leopold wasn't a based kaiser Dumb republican cuck, he was more effective better looking than any of your shitty ugly useless presidents",,Anonymous,10-reyes-mas-feos-historia-L-QFMJS0.jpg,20BOf1lR9Fyc3arwQm8Utg==,,,1504180965 139718377,139738002,2017-08-31 12:03:36,">>139737940 more effective AND better looking is what i met go kiss your president obongo",,Anonymous,,,,,1504181016 139718377,139738046,2017-08-31 12:04:05,">>139737444 >>139737468 >>139737619 >>139737673 >>139737742 Buttmad nigger detected",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504181045 139718377,139738252,2017-08-31 12:06:46,>>139737940,,Anonymous,leopold.jpg,1f3dZcZsvKC79X6YB6ZSyw==,US,,1504181206 139718377,139738337,2017-08-31 12:07:56,">>139738252 you shouldn't be laughing at Charles II since you're on the same level as him intellectually",,Anonymous,,,,,1504181276 139718377,139738395,2017-08-31 12:08:29,>>139719582,,Anonymous,a2.jpg,BOTJE3Le8V4gu/EiYGjB5w==,US,,1504181309 139718377,139738559,2017-08-31 12:10:20,>>139722890,,Anonymous,a3.jpg,2ft3Xg5pyVORXqQrsfol8w==,US,,1504181420 139718377,139738684,2017-08-31 12:11:55,>>139723255,,Anonymous,a4.jpg,EmntjtCGaQep0N1kuGq+uw==,US,,1504181515 139718377,139738754,2017-08-31 12:12:48,">>139738046 How does it feel to be so much of a cuck to want an inbreed twat on a throne to have absolute control of your country, because what? Muh ancestors? Bloodlines dont bring competence",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504181568 139718377,139738809,2017-08-31 12:13:30,">>139718377 French Monarchist POUR QUE VIVE LA FRANCE VIVE LE ROY",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504181610 139718377,139738823,2017-08-31 12:13:34,>>139723610,,Anonymous,a5.jpg,0p+TV+1R6oOGKcfwkR+QdA==,US,,1504181614 139718377,139738848,2017-08-31 12:14:05,">>139737619 I think it was pretty much admitted that nobles were ugly, but it was a regalian kind of ugliness It added to their stature somehow",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504181645 139718377,139738954,2017-08-31 12:15:19,">>139738754 >because what? Because the person with the most power in a nation should have the most invested. It also prevents (((foreign powers))) staging corporate takeovers of the government. Or do you really believe the average dropkick from your slav village could lead your nation? Or be responsible enough to have a say in doing so?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504181719 139718377,139739005,2017-08-31 12:15:57,>>139734989,,Anonymous,a6.jpg,X5HT7yUyFHr0wsWbSX2BMw==,US,,1504181757 139718377,139739055,2017-08-31 12:16:40,">>139718893 >monarchy isn't relevant >at least half of white nations have monarchal executives >the other half have royal liniages from before they were republicucked",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504181800 139718377,139739180,2017-08-31 12:18:06,">>139738754 >Not all monarchies are absolutists >Even absolutist monarchies had constitutionnal rules that prevented the king to do as he likes >Kings had advisors, just like politicians nowadays. Do you really think theynare the ones writing the bills?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504181886 139718377,139739254,2017-08-31 12:19:07,">>139738954 >Philo of Alexandria and Seneca the Younger describe Caligula as an insane emperor who was self-absorbed, angry, killed on a whim, and indulged in too much spending and sex.[102] He is accused of sleeping with other men's wives and bragging about it,[103] killing for mere amusement,[104] deliberately wasting money on his bridge, causing starvation,[105] and wanting a statue of himself erected in the Temple of Jerusalem for his worship.[98] Once, at some games at which he was presiding, he ordered his guards to throw an entire section of the audience into the arena during the intermission to be eaten by the wild beasts because there were no prisoners to be used and he was bored.[106][clarification needed] >While repeating the earlier stories, the later sources of Suetonius and Cassius Dio provide additional tales of insanity. They accuse Caligula of incest with his sisters, Agrippina the Younger, Drusilla, and Livilla, and say he prostituted them to other men.[107] They state he sent troops on illogical military exercises,[72][108] turned the palace into a brothel,[47] and, most famously, planned or promised to make his horse, Incitatus, a consul,[109][110] and actually appointed him a priest.[82]",,Anonymous,caligula.jpg,Zx3TEkkAKSJGwNHxfDmSYA==,US,,1504181947 139718377,139739520,2017-08-31 12:22:21,">>139739254 Oh no, one bad example! (semi example, because it's on the WRE) The entire position is destroyed! Especially since (((democracies))) have never had any bad leaders or flaws at all.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504182141 139718377,139739742,2017-08-31 12:25:14,">>139739254 look at north korea, tell me a single monarchy worse than the glorious north korean republic",,Anonymous,,,,,1504182314 139718377,139739831,2017-08-31 12:26:20,">>139739520 Kings and emperors used to go on wild sex orgies and endless parties while their people starved. Degeneracy in the king's court was the standard. Especially if the king inherited his title and grew up coddled and privileged. He has no connection whatsoever to the lower classes. They are a phantom, a dream, a wisp in the back of his mind. He probably never even sees a commoner except on extremely rare occasions. The tales of degeneracy of Roman Emperors are legendary. But the pattern holds strong wherever you get bloodline monarchies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504182380 139718377,139739912,2017-08-31 12:27:15,"as a leaf I'm willing to be a dominion / colony again. I'm loyal to the crown, king, queen, and empire.",,Anonymous,1479354475205.png,yAKNowQuAoNXEPCByNmKgw==,CA,,1504182435 139718377,139739980,2017-08-31 12:28:07,">>139738954 And why excatly does that person have to decided because of his blood? This makes the monarch more occupied with on producing a worthy heir rather than actually focuing on leading a country. Preety much every good roman emperor came into power because of his brilliance and not muh bloodline. >Or do you really believe the average dropkick from your slav village could lead your nation? Yea I don't know afailed artist, a theology dropout and a street thug have done it just last century.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504182487 139718377,139739991,2017-08-31 12:28:19,">>139739831 With time they learned a sense of duty and even accountability though. I din't think any of these existed during the XIXth century, in western europe at least",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504182499 139718377,139740057,2017-08-31 12:29:06,">>139739831 Your attacking monarchism on the basis of degeneracy is ironic, given that Republics and Democracies are the pinnacle of degenerate behavior, especially democracies. >b-but degeneracy is ok if we vote for it!",,Anonymous,image.png,3yyKETLNefdM9l1absZ+2w==,,,1504182546 139718377,139740095,2017-08-31 12:29:31,">>139739991 I agree that during the renaissance, a better consciousness was built up among the elite class and less of that went on",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504182571 139718377,139740282,2017-08-31 12:31:29,">>139740057 Yea I'd rather the people be degenerate rather than the tards leading them",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504182689 139718377,139740352,2017-08-31 12:32:33,">>139740057 I'm attacking monarchism on the basis that these leaders are inbred, incompetent, privileged fucks with no right to rule. Making selfish decisions that impact the lives of tens of thousands of their subjects",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504182753 139718377,139740418,2017-08-31 12:33:27,">>139739831 >Kings and emperors used to go on wild sex orgies and endless parties while their people starved So? You think a nation full of hungry people would be fed with one banquet? Besides, you're exaggerating anyway. > He has no connection whatsoever to the lower classes. They are a phantom, a dream, a wisp in the back of his mind. He probably never even sees a commoner except on extremely rare occasions. Probably the same of Trump. A good leader, elected or no should understand their subjects, and appreciate the part each plays. This would be part of a prince's proper schooling. >>139739980 >And why excatly does that person have to decided because of his blood? Because that's the best security policy. The king can't run from his duty, or have the position bought out by a puppet. And you always take care of something better if you know it's going to your son. >This makes the monarch more occupied with on producing a worthy heir rather than actually focuing on leading a country. Not really that hard, but it is in fact part of leading the nation. Similar to what the Rosicrucians practiced. They would train their successor to keep their work going after they died. >Preety much every good roman emperor came into power because of his brilliance and not muh bloodline. Very few Roman emperors got the gig because of their parentage. That's just not how the system worked. Most of the time the army put in someone they could control, or someone pretended to be controllable to get the job.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504182807 139718377,139740438,2017-08-31 12:33:42,">>139739831 in different periods of history, monarchies worked differently, none of the dogshit you wrote applies to modern(post industrial era) monarchies considering how retarded you masses are maybe absolute monarchy isn't such a bad idea",,Anonymous,,,,,1504182822 139718377,139740478,2017-08-31 12:34:11,">>139740282 Hahah, are you serious? >>139740352 >I'm attacking monarchism on the basis that these leaders are inbred, incompetent, privileged fucks with no right to rule So not any worse than democracy.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504182851 139718377,139740502,2017-08-31 12:34:25,">>139740418 >Probably the same of Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8MXKdXl6Wk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504182865 139718377,139740592,2017-08-31 12:35:42,">>139740352 you're attaching monarchism on the basis on ad hominem as i said, you're really not in a position to laugh at Charles II, you're on his level intellectually",,Anonymous,,,,,1504182942 139718377,139740715,2017-08-31 12:37:07,">>139740352 you had a gay nigger as your president",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1504183027 139718377,139740727,2017-08-31 12:37:13,">>139739912 Lad you don't need to be a Dominion. You're a Kingdom in your own right. Our Australian and New Kiwi brethren also.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504183033 139718377,139740768,2017-08-31 12:37:42,">>139719582 I've always found it funny how the Dutch anthem mentions explicitly lifelong loyalty to the King of Spain. >den Koning van Hispanje >heb ik altijd geëerd.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183062 139718377,139740778,2017-08-31 12:37:49,">>139739831 >Kings and emperors used to go on wild sex orgies and endless parties while their people starved. Degeneracy in the king's court was the standard. name one medieval king who had wild orgies",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183069 139718377,139740782,2017-08-31 12:37:51,">>139740352 >I'm attacking monarchism on the basis that these leaders are inbred, Rarely. Hapsburgs being a big exception. >incompetent, They'd have the best teachers possible for the job. >privileged Back to tumblr for you. >with no right to rule. But that's wrong? >Making selfish decisions that impact the lives of tens of thousands of their subjects That's what government does. At least a monarch doesn't have to worry about getting ~51% of votes every few years, thus resorting to short term pandering. >>139740502 Oh, a PR stunt is all it takes to win you over? That's easy.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504183071 139718377,139740833,2017-08-31 12:38:21,">>139740727 Nonsense, they are British, they need to be part of Britain",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183101 139718377,139740863,2017-08-31 12:38:43,">>139740715 And now he's not our president anymore. It's like pottery But if you get a bad king, he's there for life What if your king doesn't like the suit the french ambassador wore, so he launches you into a major war and gets your entire family killed?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504183123 139718377,139740899,2017-08-31 12:39:03,">>139740418 >>the best security policy >childless monarch destructible struggle for power- likely civil war >young heir power in the hands of the advisors- most likely stays a puppet for life >no male heir country cucked to a foreign ruler >poor upbringing shit ruler >multiple ambitious heirs destructible struggle for power",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504183143 139718377,139740997,2017-08-31 12:40:01,">>139740863 What if your president doesn't like the suit the french ambassador wore, so he launches you into a major war and gets your entire family killed?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183201 139718377,139741063,2017-08-31 12:40:41,">>139718377 >monarchism general >thread advocating for monarchism >shows the elected statesman of low birth who built up his country from a shattered set of small kingdoms, principalities, and states into one of the largest and most powerful empires in the world >and the unelected monarch retard who ruined it in under a generation Maybe not the best example",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504183241 139718377,139741107,2017-08-31 12:41:13,">>139740899 You do know there are other systems of succession besides Agnatic Primogeniture, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183273 139718377,139741172,2017-08-31 12:41:50,">>139740899 how about you stop learning about modern politics from EU4?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183310 139718377,139741213,2017-08-31 12:42:12,">>139740782 >They'd have the best teachers possible for the job And that guarantees their compotence how? >Muh modern politicians At least they have to pander to the people, even if short term. A ruler can literlay shit on his subjects and they have to eat it up like candy",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504183332 139718377,139741355,2017-08-31 12:43:36,">>139741063 It shows the great hero Otto Von Bismark and his Emperor Wilhelm II whom he fought for, if you insulted his emperor to his face Otto would cut your tongue off",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183416 139718377,139741384,2017-08-31 12:43:53,">>139740899 >>no male heir >country cucked to a foreign rule nope this is not how it works mate >>childless monarch destructible struggle for power- likely civil war there has been only one civil war over succesion in england in almost 1000 years",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183433 139718377,139741390,2017-08-31 12:43:58,">>139741172 >monarchism >modern politics whew lad back to r/history with you",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504183438 139718377,139741480,2017-08-31 12:44:51,">>139740778 To be fair, many probably did, but it didn't make as many news reports. >>139740863 >But if you get a bad king, he's there for life If you get a bad republic, it's there until it's conquered or falls apart entirely. >What if your president doesn't like the oil deal the Saudi ambassador proposed, so he launches you into a major war and gets your entire family killed? See, i can do ittoo. >>139740899 >childless monarch Should be pretty unlikely in the era of fertility treatments. >power in the hands of the advisors Any king would have advisors. Just like any government. That's a non-exclusive risk. >no male heir Agnatic primogeniture. >poor upbringing Unlikely, but also true of any government. >multiple ambitious heirs You mean if they nigger knife their older brother? Shame, but possible. >>139740997 Damn, took too long posting so you stole it. >>139741213 >And that guarantees their compotence how? What guarantee do you have of competence from the inept but wildly popular village idiot who wins the general election? At least they have to pander to the people You want minorities to be catered to even up to and including the destruction of the nation? >A ruler can literlay shit on his subjects If that were true, no monarch would ever have been overthrown.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504183491 139718377,139741515,2017-08-31 12:45:05,">>139741390 >>139725100",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183505 139718377,139741550,2017-08-31 12:45:21,">>139741384 >england >monarch with any real power pick one genious, GB has been an aristocracy ever since the magna carta",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504183521 139718377,139741635,2017-08-31 12:46:14,">>139741515 >>139741550",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504183574 139718377,139741654,2017-08-31 12:46:31,">>139741550 how about you learn what monarchy means before you argue with the adults, little boy?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183591 139718377,139741664,2017-08-31 12:46:35,">>139741550 ok name a civil war over succesion in france then",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183595 139718377,139741778,2017-08-31 12:47:50,">>139741664 The Revolution?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504183670 139718377,139741902,2017-08-31 12:49:05,">>139741664 The Hundred Years War tbqh",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504183745 139718377,139741943,2017-08-31 12:49:30,">>139741664 Charlemagne's sons? Though i guess that was more about who gets how much of what, rather than just the getting. >>139741778 Not really over succession.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504183770 139718377,139741952,2017-08-31 12:49:35,">>139741480 >If that were true, no monarch would ever have been overthrown. Many did shit, many also got overthrown when they when they lost support of the upper classes. As Machiavelli said you need to have at the very least least one of these in check",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504183775 139718377,139742007,2017-08-31 12:50:14,">>139741902 This",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504183814 139718377,139742008,2017-08-31 12:50:14,">>139741778 >The Revolution? it was a rebellion not a civil war over succesion",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183814 139718377,139742026,2017-08-31 12:50:27,">>139741952 Glad you agree.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504183827 139718377,139742076,2017-08-31 12:51:00,">>139741902 hey why couldn't you fucks beat England, they are such a smaller country, and only 20 miles of ocean between you Are french really this weak?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504183860 139718377,139742145,2017-08-31 12:51:36,">>139718377 >Monarchism General >Shows a picture of the guy that is the ultimate proof that Monarchy is a retarded system that completely destroyed Europe Thanks Willy, you fucking retard",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1504183896 139718377,139742212,2017-08-31 12:52:19,">>139742076 >why couldn't you fucks beat England but they did",,Anonymous,,,,,1504183939 139718377,139742237,2017-08-31 12:52:33,">>139742076 England wasn't alone, they had the duchy of Normandy and fucking Burgundy with them friendo There were also some major fuck ups from the french part, as well as internal turnoils.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504183953 139718377,139742259,2017-08-31 12:52:48,">>139732571 you know posting these pictures doesn't make you look cool. it makes you look like a retarded, narcissistic, obese teenage edgelord.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1504183968 139718377,139742274,2017-08-31 12:52:58,">>139741664 >>139741778 >>139741902 guys, succession wars happened in pre-industrial times there are no succession wars in modern history, monarchy doesn't mean destroying modern technology and going back to feudal peasant society and figting blood feuds and succession wars for fucks sake, EUROPE WAS MOSTLY RULED BY MONARCHIES BEFORE THE WORLD WARS, it's not some distant long forgotten form of rule jesus christ",,Anonymous,Ruling-monarchs.jpg,ia6pCvQX3j0MiMFuOgihDQ==,,,1504183978 139718377,139742347,2017-08-31 12:53:47,">>139742259 shot water out my nose reading this",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504184027 139718377,139742366,2017-08-31 12:53:57,">>139742237 >There were also some major fuck ups from the french part Unity being a big one. But the biggest was trying to summon the King of England to the French court. Twice.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504184037 139718377,139742368,2017-08-31 12:53:59,">>139741654 So to you it makes sense to have a some random royal tard on a throne (that costs a country billions), to do what wave hands and donate to charity every now and then? Because thats what modern monarchies are, trophies.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504184039 139718377,139742498,2017-08-31 12:55:30,">>139742368 i support a 19th century style constitutional monarchy with a strong(not useless like today) king",,Anonymous,,,,,1504184130 139718377,139742527,2017-08-31 12:55:51,">>139742026 Of course its true I read all of Machiavelli, thats also the reason why I think monarchism cannot work in a modern setting",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1504184151 139718377,139742542,2017-08-31 12:56:03,">>139742274 I absolutely agree with you, most of these problems were resolved through laws or a change of attitude (aristocratic mind, a life dedicated to the duty of protecting the realm, etc...) For instance in France, no woman or foreigner could get the french crown and the King can not dispose of the royal domain and the crown itself as if those were his own Oddities such as the spanish war of sucession were geopolitical matters first",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504184163 139718377,139742563,2017-08-31 12:56:13,">>139742368 >on a throne (that costs a country billions) Thanks for bringing that up. Because monarchies are actually relatively inexpensive. The British monarchy actually puts more money back to the government (£400m from the Crown Estates) than the salary they're paid (£35m). Elsewhere, they tend to be cheaper than replacing the monarchy with a republic model, when you consider all the extra costs attached.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504184173 139718377,139742947,2017-08-31 13:00:10,">>139741355 > if you insulted his emperor to his face Otto would cut your tongue off I don't know where you get your history, but Bismarck hated Wilhelm II and talked shit about him constantly",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504184410 139718377,139743060,2017-08-31 13:01:26,">>139742527 What an odd conclusion to have reached after reading that satire book.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504184486 139718377,139744028,2017-08-31 13:12:00,>>139742274,,Anonymous,kings of the world.jpg,oK5hrWDZbByQ2RcVRX8ADw==,US,,1504185120 139718377,139744952,2017-08-31 13:22:15,">>139718377 If you want traditionalism in your lifetime, become the example. >>139741134 >>139741134 >>139741134",,Anonymous,1503001105183.jpg,+5YJOVj+08eXikVUFaLdIA==,,,1504185735 139718377,139746308,2017-08-31 13:35:06,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1504186506 139718377,139748261,2017-08-31 13:56:31,">>139738848 Is Louis XX the main pretender these days? Orleans seem to have no support except maybe the remaining AF people.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504187791 139718377,139748371,2017-08-31 13:58:00,Death to the enemies of the Queen desu,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504187880 139718377,139748569,2017-08-31 14:00:05,">>139721308 I always found myself wondering how the Habsburgs might have gotten their multi-ethnic state to work, and survived as monarchs to this day like what the British have. It seems like a real challenge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504188005 139718377,139749014,2017-08-31 14:04:50,">>139748569 Ferdinand had a plan for devoluted powers to each kingdom with them as king of each. Could have worked considering how the hapsburgs remained popular after the war and how the post war governments were concerned that they would lose their countries due to monarchist sentiment if the hapsburg heir was allowed back to austria.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504188290 139718377,139749227,2017-08-31 14:07:03,">>139718377 What about ours?",,Anonymous,Regele-Ferdinand-al-Romaniei.jpg,vA9ckwHJ6Vm4sRnHJOaN9w==,,,1504188423 139718377,139749292,2017-08-31 14:07:41,">>139718377 What is your reasoning behind your choice of flag? I use this one since I believe in the divine right foundation of monarchies. Also >tfw your countrymen are brainwashed from birth against monarchism >tfw coming out as a monarchist is probably as bad as coming out of the closet My parents still think I'm a republican even though I've been out of the house for two years.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504188461 139718377,139749349,2017-08-31 14:08:10,>>139749227,,Anonymous,1cf63-regele_carol_i.jpg,YjYPgoGe+cCgQyjmzCB36w==,,,1504188490 139718377,139749416,2017-08-31 14:08:52,">>139749014 So the country of Austria-Hungary would have become Austria-Hungary-Venice-Serbia-Croatia-etc. with the Emperor as some kind of super monarch?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504188532 139718377,139749422,2017-08-31 14:08:55,>>139749349,,Anonymous,regele-carol-al-ii-lea.jpg,zl1+fdM1AtxBBti93aDdfQ==,,,1504188535 139718377,139749485,2017-08-31 14:09:48,>>139749422,,Anonymous,Regele-Mihai-I.jpg,CC5Izbokap8REoNalwWInA==,,,1504188588 139718377,139749492,2017-08-31 14:09:51,>>139749422,,Anonymous,carol.jpg,xyzmXegg5dXIczcmMwJ5mQ==,,,1504188591 139718377,139749837,2017-08-31 14:13:28,">>139719651 True, but some countries make sense being republics like US or Ireland. Your country was a successful republic for so long. I wouldn't have minded if it stayed that way. I want France and Germany to become monarchies again. Europe is the land of monarchy! I",,Anonymous,,,,,1504188808 139718377,139750248,2017-08-31 14:17:46,">>139739912 Same",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504189066 139718377,139750288,2017-08-31 14:18:07,">>139748261 It is rather a question of political sensibilities I believe. Since you know about the AF you probably already knows this too but the choice is either an absolute king (Louis XX) or a constitutionnal monarch (Henri VII). Then there is dynasty autism to determine who of the two have the best claim to the throne, I won't go into that because it's tedious but I'll say the Orleans have a kingslayer as ancestor so they should fuck off. In term of image Louis XX obviously has the upper hand but then you don't hear about neither in the media Don't forget the bonapartists too",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504189087 139718377,139750423,2017-08-31 14:19:32,">>139749416 Yes, serbians heard about it and that's why they planned something about him >>139748569 . It threatened their claim over serbian lands as they could not appear as liberators anymore",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504189172 139718377,139750615,2017-08-31 14:21:28,"Isn't monarchy messy in some countries like France? France has like three or more movements just to people dedicated to different lines. Some want Bourbon, some want Bonaparte, some want other shit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504189288 139718377,139751432,2017-08-31 14:30:06,">>139750615 Bonapartists are a different matter, the only legitimacy the heir has is over the French Empire not the Kingdom of France",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504189806 139718377,139752193,2017-08-31 14:37:36,">>139750288 Bonapartists don't seem to be nearly as organized even though normies like Napoleon a lot more than a lot of Capetian kings.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504190256 139718377,139752243,2017-08-31 14:38:02,">>139718432 how would you ensure a safe transfer of power? a small council of elites voting on the new dictator?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504190282 139718377,139752340,2017-08-31 14:38:59,">>139751432 Would Bonapartists accept the return of the Bourbons and vice versa or is that something the different sides would resist?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504190339 139718377,139752653,2017-08-31 14:42:08,">>139752340 No, they hate each other. Legitimists see Napoleon as a petty usurper.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504190528 139718377,139752705,2017-08-31 14:42:41,">>139752193 And the heir is a banker in Jew York, you'd think Napoopan family would have saved up enough money to ensure a lifetime of leisure for their kids Anyway he does not have any legitimacy in ly opinion, Napoleon became emperor because he was an exceptionnal man and he won it. Napoleon III did the same through cunning. A Bonaparte can only leads France if he won the seat through his own work",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504190561 139718377,139752894,2017-08-31 14:44:41,">>139752340 Bonapartists are memers, they don't even all want to get a Bonaparte on the throne Legitimists would absolutely not accept the restauration of the Empire",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504190681 139718377,139752937,2017-08-31 14:45:12,">>139752705 I think it's pretty miraculous your royal family has an unbroken male line to Robert the Strong. Not even that, they always have several cadet branches ready to succeed if the elder dies out. That's pretty damn unlikely in terms of statistics, yet it happened.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504190712 139718377,139753156,2017-08-31 14:47:28,">>139752937 Yes it really makes you think",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504190848 139718377,139753704,2017-08-31 14:53:08,My kinda general,,Anonymous,,,,,1504191188 139718377,139753959,2017-08-31 14:55:36,">>139723539 Absolute monarchies didn't even exist until the 1600s",,Anonymous,,,,,1504191336 139718377,139754205,2017-08-31 14:57:59,">>139718377 >>139718432 >>139718589 >>139719478 >>139719973 >>139720088 >>139720285 >>139721282 >>139721308 >>139721725 >>139721977 >>139722890 >>139724971 >>139736555 >>139737468 >>139738754 >>139742145 >>139744952 >>139750615 Why do so many peasent tier country discuss a topic they can't really relate to? Fuck off you filthy niggers.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1504191479 139718377,139754997,2017-08-31 15:05:19,">>139754205 The South of the USA has always been an aristocratic society, even today there are lingering elements of it in tucked away corners. This is where I got my interest in european nobility, and it is wasn't a far jump to monarchy from there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504191919 139718377,139755212,2017-08-31 15:07:24,">>139754997 >le heritage >>>/r/eddit dixie LARPer",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1504192044 139718377,139755293,2017-08-31 15:08:09,">>139754205 Habsburg fucking shit",,Anonymous,Siege_of_La_Rochelle_1881_Henri_Motte_1846_1922.jpg,OA0n98sLuj5GZFAMqlE7Ag==,FR,,1504192089 139718377,139755512,2017-08-31 15:10:12,">>139755212 It literally is my heritage. Southerns, unlike Austrians, at least didn't deliberately destroy their aristocracy and history.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504192212 139718377,139755673,2017-08-31 15:11:29,">>139718377 Once the right wing wins this era of history, it ought to belong to the monarchists next up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504192289 139718377,139756235,2017-08-31 15:16:12,">>139755673 Today's ochlocracy (mob rule) will give way eventually. You can see it with Trump , (which isn't to say he'll be king or something) strong men can get a lot of support",,Anonymous,,,,,1504192572 139718377,139756521,2017-08-31 15:18:23,">>139755512 lol... Travel to Austria, and you will see that there is nothing of our history that is destoryed. We got rid of Aristocracy, yeah, but only legally, but we didn't really had any options. Besides this happened during the faschism/communism era in completly destablized continent.",,Anonymous,,,AT,,1504192703 139718377,139756930,2017-08-31 15:21:50,">>139756521 Hofburg is god-tier.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504192910 139718377,139758326,2017-08-31 15:33:43,">>139754997 Well technically too some southerners were interested in forming a new nation with Emperor Maximilian as the head of it that stretches from Virginia to northern South America with Cuba as the capitol. Although this was something mostly just aristocratic types were interested in.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504193623 139718377,139758919,2017-08-31 15:38:41,">>139756235 I'll never understand the defeatism /pol/ seems/ seemed to have. A person doesn't need a crystal ball to see which way the world is going. I'd like to think I'm still kicking when the first strong men types turn into hereditary positions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504193921 139812571,139812571,2017-09-01 00:31:37,"Edition: Sun King (Louis XIV) This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/LyfpyJPt Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Social Media: Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",/MG/ - Monarchism General,Anonymous,louis_xiv.jpg,DhAWWkUj0zsBEY8TGrchKg==,,,1504225897 139812571,139812876,2017-09-01 00:35:51,">>139812571 Nice meme flag you retard.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504226151 139812571,139814227,2017-09-01 00:51:34,">>139812876 what, i love the environment",,Anonymous,,,,,1504227094 139812571,139814247,2017-09-01 00:51:43,,,Anonymous,For the love of tea.jpg,H2YPtwYIpOVlgf+0/DN4PA==,US,,1504227103 139871413,139871413,2017-09-01 14:12:19,"Edition: Nicholas II of Russia This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/LyfpyJPt Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Social Media: Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",/MG/ - Monarchism General,Anonymous,nicky_with_daughter.jpg,kZBoh+5pe+9vJo9pQCxdjg==,,,1504275139 139871413,139871589,2017-09-01 14:14:09,Can Hoppeans into /monarchism general/?,,Anonymous,Hoppe.jpg,Ex+ECUOivTDOH4SvcrP3PQ==,US,,1504275249 139871413,139871756,2017-09-01 14:15:49,">>139871589 anarcho-monarchism is a thing, and it's quite interesting actually. http://www.altarandthrone.com/so-whats-the-deal-with-anarcho-monarchism-anyway/",,Anonymous,,,,,1504275349 139871413,139871794,2017-09-01 14:16:14,">>139871413 Russian monarchy was complete shit lmao they basically destroyed the country after every succession, what a fucking retarded example.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504275374 139871413,139871874,2017-09-01 14:17:00,">>139871413 >Nicholas II of Russia Remove this cuck",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504275420 139871413,139871909,2017-09-01 14:17:31,">>139871794 >>139871874",,Anonymous,you_killed_the_kings_for_this.png,1luHvF67Dlwy73pLnKdtDA==,,,1504275451 139871413,139871972,2017-09-01 14:18:13,">>139871413 isn't the concept of muh western values & culture a cult though?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504275493 139871413,139872031,2017-09-01 14:18:50,">>139871909 Not an argument. If you're advocating a monarchism in the current year you must have some severe autism, let me know when your balls drop and you realize authoritarianism is the answer.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504275530 139871413,139872091,2017-09-01 14:19:28,">>139871909 Wrong you fucker, we killed him for science, education and life. Also, he is totally contradicts to waht you've describe in OPpost",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504275568 139871413,139872119,2017-09-01 14:19:46,">>139871413 Nicholas didn't get killed by Bolshevists by the way it was all set up",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504275586 139871413,139872219,2017-09-01 14:20:52,">>139871794 Peter the Great was decent at least and modernised it a bit because he was ashamed of it after he travelled through Europe. After his death it became shit again.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504275652 139871413,139872253,2017-09-01 14:21:11,">>139872091 I bet you enjoyed them soviet gulags, and religious freedom, and free speech in USSR. In other words all that you killed him for.",,Anonymous,in_hell_there_is_democracy.jpg,qaiYsJhZ8lIGBr86C7XnOQ==,,,1504275671 139871413,139872277,2017-09-01 14:21:24,">>139872219 Russia that is",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504275684 139871413,139872322,2017-09-01 14:22:01,">>139872219 > shit after Peter the Great > BTFO's Napoleon choose 1",,Anonymous,alexander_i.jpg,L0n1T2SCvzNUg0CfQtIY5A==,,,1504275721 139871413,139872425,2017-09-01 14:22:59,">>139872031 > democracy, the God that failed",,Anonymous,,,,,1504275779 139871413,139872514,2017-09-01 14:23:53,">>139872425 no one cares retard, your general is shit and you can't even rebut simple attacks, gl sucking that royal dick",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504275833 139871413,139872586,2017-09-01 14:24:43,They didn't choose the Tsar life. the Tsar life chose them!,,Awesome Autocrat,the_tsar_life_by_alchetbeachfan-da840o0.jpg,4xxu9eXnPaoOn3SmSWHHxw==,,,1504275883 139871413,139872700,2017-09-01 14:26:00,">>139872514 lol. go on attributing yourself victories you didn't have.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504275960 139871413,139872727,2017-09-01 14:26:17,">>139872700 Not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504275977 139871413,139872840,2017-09-01 14:27:20,">>139872727 it's obvious at this point",,Anonymous,bait_posters.png,BqhXUjsv1/PAB0E/tchSTg==,,,1504276040 139871413,139872867,2017-09-01 14:27:37,so how do you ensure that you don't end up with a retard for a king,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504276057 139871413,139872914,2017-09-01 14:28:04,">>139872253 >In other words all that you killed him for. wrong again.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276084 139871413,139873014,2017-09-01 14:29:09,">>139872840 >it's obvious at this point That you can't present an argument?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504276149 139871413,139873072,2017-09-01 14:29:42,">>139872322 >> BTFO's Napoleon And totally ruined Russian economy (google financial reforms Nicolas the first) Also >fatherslayer >good example",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276182 139871413,139873183,2017-09-01 14:30:41,">>139871794 >destroyed the country after every succession How can a country exist for centuries and also grow bigger and bigger, if it's destroyed after every succession? Commies on other hand fucked up the country completely in mere 70 years.",,Anonymous,screen-shot-2017-03-20-at-12-45-13-pm.png,BbTyzjocMR5GMIZQc2jofQ==,UA,,1504276241 139871413,139873292,2017-09-01 14:31:40,">>139873183 >Commies on other hand fucked up the country completely in mere 70 years. Yeah by creating Ukraine",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276300 139871413,139873309,2017-09-01 14:31:50,">>139872867 there are a number of ways to do that. 1. have some sort of parliament have the power (say in a super super majority) to depose the monarch and skip over him if he's a retard. 2. You can have a succession tree based on merit rather than inheritance. This was the case in the roman empire. 3. To avoid inbreeding, you can occasionally marry the heir to a non royal. > inb4 legitimacy it's a rule that you can bypass if you so wish. and there are more, i just listed suggestions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504276310 139871413,139873323,2017-09-01 14:31:57,">>139872867 the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504276317 139871413,139873436,2017-09-01 14:33:00,">>139873292 commieboo, i'm not sure Russia is too good after communism bro. t. someone who's grandfather was put in gulag for 4 years because someone was jealous and tipped him to kgb",,Anonymous,,,,,1504276380 139871413,139873520,2017-09-01 14:33:56,">>139872091 T.Brainwashed commie ruscuck Neck yourself >We killed You mean ((((((we)))))), a ((((certain,)))) tribalist ethnic group >science, education and life. *For gulags, ethnic cleansing of 20, mil Russians and Jewish supremacism The Soviet Union reached 1915 economic development only after 30(!) Years Tsarist Russia has the world biggest yearly, GDP growth , with more than 4% So stop parroting kike propaganda spastic",,Anonymous,Download (1).jpg,yd2byKjB9Pf0mmxGLcsaww==,DE,,1504276436 139871413,139873550,2017-09-01 14:34:18,">>139873309 >1. have some sort of parliament have the power (say in a super super majority) to depose the monarch and skip over him if he's a retard. Nice, from monarchy to olygarchy. >>139873323 >the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. So just like Nerō Claudius Caesar Augustus Germanicus",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276458 139871413,139873631,2017-09-01 14:35:02,">>139873550 if you have a better solution to prevent shit leaders, we're listening.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504276502 139871413,139873711,2017-09-01 14:35:46,">>139873520 stolypin did nothing wrong (like seriously he didn't)",,Anonymous,stolypin.jpg,vrWorVIjtNm20NzBWcXEvA==,,,1504276546 139871413,139873726,2017-09-01 14:35:52,You've got to be some cuck sub of a man to support a monarchy or communism.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504276552 139871413,139873848,2017-09-01 14:37:06,">>139873183 Would you rather have lived in England or Russia 200 years ago?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504276626 139871413,139873849,2017-09-01 14:37:07,">>139873436 >i'm not sure Russia is too good after communism bro. It's better than RE ever was, at least under USSR people lived more than 30 years. >>139873520 >T.Brainwashed commie ruscuck >says a fucking craut Top kek. Also, not even close. >You mean ((((((we)))))), a ((((certain,)))) tribalist ethnic group Ulyanov was a russian. >and Jewish supremacism That's why we supported anti-Israel forces in ME? >Tsarist Russia has the world biggest yearly, GDP growth , with more than 4% Yeah and lived mostly worst than niggers in Burgerland",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276627 139871413,139873938,2017-09-01 14:37:51,">>139873849 > Ulyanov was Russian my sides",,Anonymous,,,,,1504276671 139871413,139873967,2017-09-01 14:38:08,">>139873631 >if you have a better solution to prevent shit leaders, we're listening. Democracy/Republic.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276688 139871413,139874017,2017-09-01 14:38:40,">>139873938 D - denial",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276720 139871413,139874030,2017-09-01 14:38:46,">>139873967 yeah, it's not like every president ever was shit and didn't do 90% of the things he promised on the campaign trail.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504276726 139871413,139874055,2017-09-01 14:39:03,>>139873938,,Anonymous,1502715682723.gif,Ej9oRw+0MWdq2RAzyZRk8Q==,US,,1504276743 139871413,139874172,2017-09-01 14:40:13,">>139874030 The president is still limited. His presidency will end anyway after few years",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276813 139871413,139874206,2017-09-01 14:40:37,">>139874172 > limited the corporations aren't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504276837 139871413,139874292,2017-09-01 14:41:25,>>139871413,,Anonymous,harry.jpg,+sdiie6qrjWx2Yxn81HIuQ==,,,1504276885 139871413,139874333,2017-09-01 14:41:46,">>139874206 >the corporations aren't. They still don't have full legal power, unlike monarch.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504276906 139871413,139874518,2017-09-01 14:43:43,">>139874172 You're a retarded. If the ussr never repressed ownership,expression,speech,religion,etc or committed the famines, purges,losing wars against Finland then Russia wouldve been on a significantly better trajectory. Lenin was 1/4 jew",,Anonymous,1501572015230.gif,eUCJVr5h8N8kgtEXPgfnXA==,US,,1504277023 139871413,139874519,2017-09-01 14:43:43,,,Anonymous,royals1.jpg,+Xy5tFBb6HSzS79ypemsGw==,,,1504277023 139871413,139874521,2017-09-01 14:43:46,">>139874333 > implying corporations aren't the ones pulling the strings on every. single. president. > also implying low iq sheeple can elect a good president who will have to do the right thing. > also implying the majority always favors the morally right thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277026 139871413,139874640,2017-09-01 14:44:50,,,Anonymous,royals2.jpg,HpnCwFXNHyMkGe55lmYFrA==,,,1504277090 139871413,139874662,2017-09-01 14:45:02,">>139874518 >Inb4 yes typo on phone",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504277102 139871413,139874704,2017-09-01 14:45:27,,,Anonymous,royals3.jpg,ZRPlGDZjBs1lDBZZnqNKgA==,,,1504277127 139871413,139874786,2017-09-01 14:46:18,,,Anonymous,royals4.jpg,Zngo4gQ44lw6rrE993/VxA==,,,1504277178 139871413,139874815,2017-09-01 14:46:36,">>139874640 Inequality is in nature. It's not their fault you're a fat self loathing semi leftist brainlet using all your creative energies here",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504277196 139871413,139874862,2017-09-01 14:47:03,">>139874786 the crown actually wastes more money on the govt than it gets from it. That's a fact. (search it if u don't believe me)",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277223 139871413,139874864,2017-09-01 14:47:03,">>139874518 >losing wars against Finland Finland accepted all USSR terms, so technically we won, unllike RE against japan. >then Russia wouldve been on a significantly better trajectory. Russia wouldve been the world greatest country if most of Romanov weren't reterted idiots.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504277223 139871413,139875017,2017-09-01 14:48:37,">>139874864 lol, USSR wanted to initially annex finland, and when throwing people at a well-defended border didn't work they were like ""fine we'll take Vyborg"". > Russia would have been on a significantly better trajectory the fact that there was a famine cause by communist authorities plays no role in this matter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277317 139871413,139875077,2017-09-01 14:49:16,">>139874864 You lost two wars before you won the third, against superior Finn's. You didn't refute a single thing the ussr did. Every single condition in the empire was worse under the gommies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504277356 139871413,139875132,2017-09-01 14:49:41,">>139874521 >> implying corporations aren't the ones pulling the strings on every. single. president. Still no direct control and full political power. >> also implying low iq sheeple can elect a good president who will have to do the right thing. >implying isolated from the rest of society family can make a good heir >> also implying the majority always favors the morally right thing. So as monarchs",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504277381 139871413,139875241,2017-09-01 14:50:40,">>139874864 Not only that,but literacy and infrastructure wouldve been built anyways without all the murder and theft of property. Gommies stole Russian property. You're the biggest cuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504277440 139871413,139875314,2017-09-01 14:51:18,">>139875132 monarchs have an inherent interest in keeping their property productive and if they are religious morally aligned. presidents have an inherent interest to money launder and then sit quietly on their estates for the rest of their lives. Also presidents don't have an incentive to support morality or ethics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277478 139871413,139875334,2017-09-01 14:51:27,">>139871413 What is /MG/'s opinion on him?",,Anonymous,file.png,SDcHE8M4gqMkfGFlUHW+pA==,,,1504277487 139871413,139875411,2017-09-01 14:52:09,">>139871413 real traditional rule was an ultra decentralized mix of elective monarchy and direct democracy t. historyfag",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1504277529 139871413,139875457,2017-09-01 14:52:39,">>139875241 the economy was also growing with stolypin's reforms.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277559 139871413,139875501,2017-09-01 14:53:14,">>139875411 in the west, yes. in Russia a constitutional monarchy (with the duma) was semi-decent. Maybe it wasn't given enough time though, idk.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277594 139871413,139875532,2017-09-01 14:53:29,">>139875017 >USSR wanted to initially annex finland Nope, durring the all pre-war negotiations USSR never demanded the whole Finland. >cause by communist The damage already was caused when commies took power. >Every single condition in the empire was worse under the gommies BWAHAHAHAHAHA, got a source, amerifat? Google the average live condition in Russian empire",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504277609 139871413,139875604,2017-09-01 14:54:03,">>139875334 many more libertarian monarchists like this guy and Lichtenstein's system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277643 139871413,139875869,2017-09-01 14:56:56,">>139875532 > implying pre-war negotiations mean anything. right, so withholding grain from farmers and *intentionally* starving farmers is totally ok and totally happened under the tsar. Also killing off monks and religious leaders en masse is totally ok because all they wanted to do was to topple the regime. man you're a cuck in denial about how much the communists fucked up russia. t. Russian",,Anonymous,,,,,1504277816 139871413,139876078,2017-09-01 14:59:00,">>139875241 >and infrastructure wouldve been built anyways Nope. >without all the murder and theft of property. >Russian Empire >no theft of property >>139875314 >morally aligned Top kek, do you realise how amorphous these words? >and then sit quietly on their estates for the rest of their lives. And congrat, you've just described short story of germanic dwarf-monarchies durring 19th century before Unification >Also presidents don't have an incentive to support morality or ethics. So as monarch (Nicolas 2 Russia was a perfect example). >>139875501 >in Russia a constitutional monarchy Wrong again kid, Duma have no power over government or Tsar.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504277940 139871413,139876239,2017-09-01 15:00:37,>absolute monarchy doesn't wo-,,Anonymous,UAE economy.png,6W/7K6ewl0EgEkC7NrA4bA==,PT,,1504278037 139871413,139876295,2017-09-01 15:01:05,">>139873849 >Ulyanov was a Russian No he wasn't. He was a Tatar Subhuman with Russian and Morva (one of the numerous little shitskin micro ethnicities in russia) Even if he wasn't my going still stands ,90% of communist leaders were Russian >That's why we supported anti-Israel forces in ME? Jewish doesn't mean necessarily Zionist spastic. Soros hates Israel too but he's still the kikiest megakike on earth, subverting goyim 24/7 >Yeah and lived mostly worst than niggers in Burgerland [Admitting I'm right] + [baseless, overexaggerated statement] Learn to debate faggot So all in all we can Say Imperial Russia =Goat, kikes have hysterical fits over it for nothing >Finland accepted all USSR terms, so technically we won, unllike RE against japan. Kek off yourself spastic One defeat doesn't negate the epic military success that was the Russian E M P I R E (notice something kike) >then Russia wouldve been on a significantly better trajectory. Russia wouldve been the world greatest country if most of Romanov weren't reterted idiots. Baseless speculation and ad hominem As said earlier imperial Russia has the highest GDP growth in the world Also suggesting 20 dead white russians is progress is perversion of the highest order Commie Kikes truly have no arguments",,Anonymous,lenin-1895-mugshot-258x3001.jpg,7ypKC+eZA4yDuL7i9FMBGQ==,DE,,1504278065 139871413,139876448,2017-09-01 15:02:40,">>139876078 > Nicholas 2 > didn't support morality what is a church?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504278160 139871413,139876578,2017-09-01 15:03:55,">>139876239 Still a bunch of dirty fucking sandniggers",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504278235 139871413,139876591,2017-09-01 15:04:04,">>139876295 *90% of communist leaders were NOT Russian Correction",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504278244 139871413,139876604,2017-09-01 15:04:11,">>139876239 >runs out of oil >collapse",,Anonymous,Saudi economy graphic.png,AZSb/YUL0FUskovVoiLwXQ==,US,,1504278251 139871413,139876610,2017-09-01 15:04:16,">>139875869 >> implying pre-war negotiations mean anything. >official demanding means nothing So will you show the historical source about ""REAL"" USSR plans? >right, so withholding grain from farmers and *intentionally* starving farmers is totally ok and totally happened under the tsar. Well technically nope, since there were no farmers under the tsar, >Also killing off monks and religious leaders en masse is totally ok because all they wanted to do was to topple the regime. Literally most of Orthodox monks and leaders never cared about the people. >man you're a cuck in denial about how much the communists fucked up russia. Of course some noname who cannot even show his flag knows my cluntry's history better than I.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504278256 139871413,139876686,2017-09-01 15:05:01,">>139876610 > no farmers under the tsar I'm done with this kike.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504278301 139871413,139876871,2017-09-01 15:06:56,">>139876610 > there were no farmers under the tsar, Congrats on the most retarded thing said in months , moron",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504278416 139871413,139877246,2017-09-01 15:10:34,"Democracy has advanced the human race faster and better than any example of monarchy, fuck off with your outdated system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504278634 139871413,139877369,2017-09-01 15:11:40,">>139876295 I hate this fucking faggot so goddamn much",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504278700 139871413,139877420,2017-09-01 15:12:11,">>139871413 Fucking pleb. They can forcefully take your daughter for the royals pleasure/sacrifice for Moloch. You really want an absolute power without accountability? Die as a pawn? Neck yourself low test cunt.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504278731 139871413,139877611,2017-09-01 15:13:51,">>139876295 >He was a Tatar Subhuman Still butthurt about Batu-khan Hans? Also, tatars in Russian empire were more educated than russians. >Jewish doesn't mean necessarily Zionist spastic. So basically it's just ""whatever what I don't like"" >[Admitting I'm right] Not even closed, durring the NicII Russian grown already started going down, you can compare Russian-Germany economical statistic of XIX century (end) with Russian-Germany of XX century. >[baseless, overexaggerated statement] Lol no, it's reality, you can easily google info of how russian peasants lived. >the epic military success that was the Russian E M P I R E Crimean war? Russo-Japanesse War? WW1 (where East front wasn't even major front for Germany)? >Baseless speculation The Romanovs have a lot of moments, where by their decision revolution could've been prevented, but they failed every time >>139876448 What is Rasputin, shitton of extrasences near emperor's family and decadance among the russian nobility",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504278831 139871413,139877689,2017-09-01 15:14:38,">>139877246 > monarchy led the human race from the first farmers to about ww1 > there was no real democracy anywhere really. It's always corporations pulling strings and manipulating sheeple to fill in a certain square on the ballot. If you look at the US history, electoral politics were always dirty. Just look at ballots from election cycle where McKinley ran. They were purposefully made so that it was inconvenient to vote for a guy not in your main party. Hell, there weren't even official ballots for a long time before, so you had to get one from your party.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504278878 139871413,139877699,2017-09-01 15:14:42,">>139876686 >>139876871 Define the farmer, niggers",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504278882 139871413,139877847,2017-09-01 15:16:04,">>139877246 >rule of the mob >politicians that have their interest and not that of the nation at heart, because they need to spend their term abusing their power as much and as often as possible to make a profit >the government has ennormus amounts of power over the individual, but since it's divided among several people it is not dictatorial Fuck off, demorat. Democracy and Communism are two sides of the same coin. You won't find anything of value in your flawed system. No liberty, no tradition and no future.",,Anonymous,Maxii.jpg,2Ba5uQLFERU4qW3WjuJZ6w==,DE,,1504278964 139871413,139877860,2017-09-01 15:16:10,"Russian Empire >Actual empire >Tradition >Patriotism >Europeans, part of social, simplistic and political life of Europe >Right to bear arms >Nationalistic >Christian >ShOA'ing of kikes >Glory >White >Supported the US patriots Russian Empire>Soviet Union Commie kike union >Enthic cleansing of Russians >20million dead >Saying you're Russian earns you GULAG , you cannons be ""of the Soviet people"" >Churches forcibly closed , priests murdered >Synagogues open, not a single rabbi killed >No food >A day long breadlines >Ruled by Jews and other ethnicities >Lasted 70yrs >Supporting niggers worldwide >Failure",,Anonymous,a524ceac0b466c797051839adc935b0d.jpg,yt6UVmQCQDwW8UO7Fi/dow==,DE,,1504278970 139871413,139877861,2017-09-01 15:16:11,">>139873726 russia easily. Britain for normal people at that time was HORRIBLE Also, England was a monarchy at that time as well",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504278971 139871413,139878007,2017-09-01 15:17:32,"Wasnt he supposedly being cucked b Rasputin? Its what started the overthrow of the monarchy in the first place, the russian people didnt want a cuck for a king. This helpful video below explains it all ... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VmkySNDX4dU",,Anonymous,IMG_4567.jpg,t44RGrZeSym5ap9c5b3THg==,AU,,1504279052 139871413,139878036,2017-09-01 15:17:46,">>139877246 MUH JEWISH BASED DEMOCRACY AND TRUMP XDDDDD",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504279066 139871413,139878106,2017-09-01 15:18:22,">>139877611 nice hindsight faggot. Now put yourself in his shoes and do it right you faggot. also cherry-picking wars. I can cherry pick wars too. look! > 1920 Polish Invasion > Spanish civil war intervention > Finnish civil war intervention > Afghanistan campgain",,Anonymous,,,,,1504279102 139871413,139878188,2017-09-01 15:19:08,">>139878007 No, that was a rumour",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504279148 139871413,139878279,2017-09-01 15:20:00,">>139877699 a person that engages in agricultural labor. in the more modern sense, a landowner.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504279200 139871413,139878339,2017-09-01 15:20:36,">>139877860 >>Actual empire You mean like British one (small methropoly and shitton of wild wasteland)? >>Europeans, part of social, simplistic and political life of Europe Top kek >>Supported the US patriots Well no wonder why it's collpased. >>Nationalistic Feudalism denying nation as an idea. >>Glory >says he while posting our last moanrch Nice irony.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504279236 139871413,139878354,2017-09-01 15:20:48,">>139873726 >... he said, while paying money and fighting wars for his jewish puppeteers, because his democratically voted president told him to do so What did you mean by this?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504279248 139871413,139878421,2017-09-01 15:21:29,">>139878007 >Wasnt he supposedly being cucked b Rasputin? He was cucked by his elder brother even before",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504279289 139871413,139878466,2017-09-01 15:22:04,">>139878354 it's ok goyim, it's for ""democracy"" and ""freedom""",,Anonymous,die_for_the_jew.jpg,6fbG0ItX2Yj1S9c/9LWHbw==,,,1504279324 139871413,139878491,2017-09-01 15:22:19,">>139878421 sauce?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504279339 139871413,139878597,2017-09-01 15:23:20,">>139878339 haha before the traitors at the top, decided that they could do this on their own and make a republic. Look where they are now (points at a mass grave on the outskirts of st petersburg).",,Anonymous,,,,,1504279400 139871413,139878822,2017-09-01 15:25:36,,,Anonymous,royals5.jpg,fAy0vAlWQ5M+Tp6cSgcBIg==,,,1504279536 139871413,139878904,2017-09-01 15:26:17,">>139878466 Ah yes, the freedom to choose the people who take advantage of your country and its people. I love that freedom. What would I do if it wasn't for our grand liberators that took the heavy burden of monarchism of our shoulders after WWI and threw us right into an era of everlasting peace and democracy? Cheers to that, democrats.",,Anonymous,royal coffee.png,ZyxdS4ahwQlIGIim+aLoeA==,DE,,1504279577 139871413,139879003,2017-09-01 15:27:30,What do you all think of neocameralism and patchwork society?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504279650 139871413,139879028,2017-09-01 15:27:46,">>139878106 >> 1920 Polish Invasion >country is in ruins after WW1 and Civil War >> Spanish civil war intervention >> Finnish civil war intervention Not a full-scale war (for USSR), just supporting of one side by weapon. >> Afghanistan campgain You are right, still it wasn't even close to picrelated >>139878279 >a person that engages in agricultural labor. So alves in Rome also were farmers? >in the more modern sense, a landowner. And here is the problem... russian peasants owned the land except small part which they were needed to grow food for themselves.",,Anonymous,706017Tsushima_3.jpg,JGQgSWMKk6ow2VX4PVL8Tw==,RU,,1504279666 139871413,139879265,2017-09-01 15:30:02,">>139872091 >science >education >life Not for food though.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504279802 139871413,139879314,2017-09-01 15:30:33,">>139878491 Google it. >>139878597 >traitors They were the last patriots who tried to save our country in face of collapse",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504279833 139871413,139879320,2017-09-01 15:30:35,">>139878822 We beat the shit out of wogs.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504279835 139871413,139879341,2017-09-01 15:30:48,">>139879028 > afghanistan > not worse than tsushima tsushima was one battle, afghanistan was a whole war. >inb4 russo-japanese war if the tsar was not concerned with YOUR grandparent's lives, he would have sent troops on the ground there and fucked over the japs. But he didn't, because he cared. About tsushima, retard generals exist everywhere. In fact many of the setbacks in the soviet army during ww2 were caused by the purging of white generals and installing brain dead commies in their place.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504279848 139871413,139879470,2017-09-01 15:32:07,"I thought of something earlier today that you guys might like. Democracy is like a run-down motel room, every new guest makes it more and more dirty and disorganized. They leave the room in shambles, with towels and blankets laying across the floor and stains and crumbs everywhere. Every now and then you get room service to clean it up a bit, but that only happens rarely as the management doesn't really care so long as people keep staying there. Monarchy is a house, a piece of land passed down through generations. It's owners care for it since it will be their children's and their children's. The house is clean and properly maintained, its character and history preserved for decades. >>139877246 >Democracy has advanced us farther than any other system Democracies are only so mainstream because of the liberal brainbug that has infected Europe and America over the past century and the draft. Republics beat monarchies because the republican government can call upon their entire male population to fight in the war if need be, pic related is a good example of this. The draft is also the only way to keep the population from bleeding itself dry with welfare. Only the risk of being sent off to war if you vote the wrong way keeps people from draining the state to the point it can't fight any wars. But in every democracy, the citizens vote away the draft as a necessary restriction to vote (along with every other restriction), thus allowing women, niggers, and nu-males to vote for unlimited welfare, kill the economy, and open up the republic to invasion and subjugation. This happens with every republic throughout history, it's inevitably going to happen to the West as well. Democracies are good for creating wealth because they allow for lasseiz-faire capitalism (until the government starts bleeding and needs more money that is), but once they inevitably collapse all that ""advancement"" is gone. Also... >human race Kill yourself, kike.",,Anonymous,why republics win wars.jpg,BmQ1vAwSSoSVfgECep1v/Q==,US,,1504279927 139871413,139879534,2017-09-01 15:32:43,">>139879314 i like what Vlasov did, but he was a traitor nonetheless. Also your so-called ""patriots"" cost Russia thousands of lives in a timespan of what, 2-4 years?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504279963 139871413,139879550,2017-09-01 15:32:49,">>139877847 >>139877847 Preach, brudi >Still butthurt about Batu-khan Hans? Also, tatars in Russian empire were more educated than russians. Not an argument. We're talking Lenin's ethnicity not education levels among Russian farmer your absolute moron >So basically it's just ""whatever what I don't like"" Not mean that 90% of Soviet leadership's was ethnically Jewish. Capitol? Do I need to repeat it again, cretin? >NicII Russian grown already started going down, GROWTH STARTED TO BE LESS THAN 4% GDP YEARLY OY VEY GOY you need a reovultuon asap!!!don't forget to massacre everybody not agreeing with you BTW Do you understand how retarded you sound, you amoebic braindead creature? > >you can compare Russian-Germany economical statistic of XIX century (end) with Russian-Germany of XX century. I can compare many things retard. This is completely irrelevant . Russian empire>Commieland >reality, you can easily google info of how russian peasants lived. Yes I can and yes I did. Not different from how peasant anywhere in the world lived. Better even than in England BTW, where they got periodically socially cleansed for laughs >Crimean war? Russo-Japanesse War? WW1 Fucking hell you just WANT to denigrate Russian achievement don't you kike? The Russian empire crushed Prussia, Sweden and the Ottoman empire 5 times. It was an empire you Kong for a reason Every single country in the world has it's military mishaps Fuck off kike with you bullshit",,Anonymous,1503673091610.png,2Dw2NN5vk6Yrzy9LSpk+Nw==,DE,,1504279969 139871413,139879602,2017-09-01 15:33:15,">Anarcho Syndicalism for; Industry, Infrastructure, Agricultural, Textile and any large group cooperation endeavor >Anarcho Capitalism for; talents, arts, gourmet, fashion, skilled/particular labor specialist and any individual/family enterprise in a free market >Anarcho Primitivism for; hunting, conservation, keeping land in balance and other ways to not exploit the land too much to preserve beauty, bio capacity and be in harmony with nature >National Socialism (non Anarcho [obviously]) for; Military, Science, Security, balancing powers to be a prosperous, yet a nature respecting nation; to keep monopolies/power/corruption/nepotism/meritocracy in check via a morphed Confederacy/Council/Regional Representative that will have a cap in wage (gov officials) and forbidden by law (threat of banishment), any hint of corruption/favoritism that jeopardizes the health/strength/security of the nation",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504279995 139871413,139879717,2017-09-01 15:34:14,">>139879602 aka national socialism that's a bit more free market than Hitler.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504280054 139871413,139879755,2017-09-01 15:34:31,">>139879003 Mostly outdated. Our economy has become marginally more complex and grew beyond agriculture and mere manifacturing. I'd prefer a more hands off approach. But that demands a constitutional monarchy. Absolutism could maybe work it out, but if you've got a parliament of sorts and apply this kindf of central planning, you'll end up with a way too powerful parliment and a lame duck monarch.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504280071 139871413,139879774,2017-09-01 15:34:42,">>139879470 To summarize, republics win wars and create wealth, but that conquest and luxury leads to greed which ultimately destroys it. Monarchies are built to last, they rarely burn bright for very long but they can burn forever if done right.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504280082 139871413,139879791,2017-09-01 15:34:50,">>139879341 Why did you ignore me? What kind of monarchist are you that you don't know how to argue monarchism? Have you ever read Moldbug or Nick Land? Do you have any idea what NRx is? Get your arguments in order buddy, these people have IQ's greater than 145 and have argued for Monarchism far more effectively than you have.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504280090 139871413,139879881,2017-09-01 15:36:04,">>139879755 How is neocameralism outdated? It's NEO.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504280164 139871413,139879959,2017-09-01 15:36:44,">>139879791 sorry your post got lost with this kike debate. I haven't heard of either desu, i'll check it out some day.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504280204 139871413,139880112,2017-09-01 15:37:56,">>139879717 If you read, NS is to exist, only to keep the other Anarcho ideologies to flourish via keeping in check corruption/nepotism/monopolies/etc. The Military, Security and Science (for the benefit of health, weapons research, etc) are there to keep the nation going.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504280276 139871413,139880146,2017-09-01 15:38:13,">>139879959 BRAH how the fuck have you not heard of Moldbug and you're a monarchist? Jesus Christ... http://www.thedarkenlightenment.com/moldbugs-gentle-introduction/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504280293 139871413,139880185,2017-09-01 15:38:34,">>139879881 I just went with the definition of cameralism I knew and thought the neo would just be a sign of it being revived as a system. If it's an actual redefinition I'd be interested to hear it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504280314 139871413,139880258,2017-09-01 15:39:19,">>139879341 >afghanistan was a whole war. Nope, we never declared war to afganistan, we've sended only limited contingent. Afganistan didn't cost us the Red army, while Tsushima destroyed all chances for Russian Navy to compete with other great powers. >But he didn't, because he cared. Lol no, he never cared (google his cornation in Moscow), he actually send the troops, but Russian Empire logistick was crap, so when they've arrived we already lost 5 battles (where Russian forces outnumbering the japs) and Port-Arthur. >In fact many of the setbacks in the soviet army during ww2 were caused by the purging of white generals and installing brain dead commies in their place. Yet still USSR won the world war, so RE generals were much more braindead.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504280359 139871413,139880461,2017-09-01 15:41:26,,,Anonymous,1474500572438.jpg,JG74n8/0UBO4oj0j2PyIOw==,,,1504280486 139871413,139880473,2017-09-01 15:41:30,">>139880112 >Military, Security and Science So basically a minarchy with a nod to science? A government providing a safe border and secure country, handling outside and inside threats while still letting the people do as they please, letting them cooperate if they want to but still trade freely? It isn't like that wouldn't be able under a monarch.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504280490 139871413,139880588,2017-09-01 15:42:33,">>139880461 Feudalism is the final redpill, though, m80.",,Anonymous,1487451735980.jpg,HXm6SlOXkB8YFGT57fVQHQ==,DE,,1504280553 139871413,139880677,2017-09-01 15:43:24,">>139879602 So your plan is to smash four different ideological systems into one country? That's dumb. By having different systems you will naturally create different laws for each citizen and thus create a class system, which means you'll have lots of revolts and revolutions, which will inevitably lead the natsoc faction being overworked and requiring more control to keep everyone else in check. So you'll either have the three anarchist factions overthrowing the natsoc faction or the natsocs successfully subjugate the other factions and you just end up with a natsoc government. So you either end up with anarchy or natsoc, but with probably ten of thousands of your dead countrymen more than was necessary if you just went with one or the other from the outset. Here's a tip, if you want a long-lasting society make sure that everyone is equal under the law. If you want a really long-lasting society, make everyone equal under the monarch, who is the embodiment of Law.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504280604 139871413,139880704,2017-09-01 15:43:36,">>139880588 Exactly",,Anonymous,1503683917600.jpg,8H5wD+bYOHI2siGMp+9Llg==,US,,1504280616 139871413,139880926,2017-09-01 15:45:42,">>139879550 >We're talking Lenin's ethnicity And he wasn't a tatar. Also, shitton of russian nobility were tatars, like Yusupov family for exmaple. >OY VEY GOY you need a reovultuon asap!!! Where I've said anything like it? >Do you understand how retarded you sound, you amoebic braindead creature? >says the guy who supporting monarchism >This is completely irrelevant . >economy >irrelevant Well, whatever. >Yes I can and yes I did Really, what books have you read? >Not different from how peasant anywhere in the world lived. because..? >Fucking hell you just WANT to denigrate Russian achievement don't you kike? Such as..? >The Russian empire crushed Prussia, Sweden and the Ottoman empire 5 times. Yes, and how it ends? In Brest. >It was an empire you Kong for a reason In XX century it was rooting corpse who lost all wars.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1504280742 139871413,139881709,2017-09-01 15:52:37,">>139880185 Read this article, it's not that long. http://www.xenosystems.net/neocameralism-1/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504281157 139871413,139881781,2017-09-01 15:53:20,">>139878822 >>139874786 >>139874704 >>139874640 >>139874519 >>139874292 so cringey....Kill yourself",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504281200 139871413,139882214,2017-09-01 15:57:23,">>139880473 >>139880677 Shhhhhheeeeeeeeiiiiiit, full circle. The only thing of a monarchy is, what prevents the Majesty's guards from taking your daughter to be a sex slave or investigate any occult sacrifices by those in absolute power.. Accountability. Does monarchy prevent trillionaire corporations?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504281443 139871413,139882242,2017-09-01 15:57:39,">>139874519 >>139874640 >>139874704 >>139874786 You're thinking of them in the wrong way. They don't rule over anybody and haven't for a very long time now. They're a tourist attraction. They're animals in a zoo. They bring in more money than they spend.",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1504281459 139871413,139882474,2017-09-01 15:59:49,">>139878822 The People They Took That wealth From Didn't deserve to keep it if they couldn't defend it.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1504281589 139871413,139882589,2017-09-01 16:00:51,">>139880926 >Well whatever Good argument there >Such as >Because Read previous post cretin Just feigning ignorance is not an argument. >Rotting corpse It wasn't. Another overexaggerated empty statement The economic growth spoke for itself. >Lost Oy very goy we have poured billions of dollars to undermine your government, have thousands of agents in every city and commit weekly terrorist attacks. Seems you're not doing so well. Unprescribe you a (((refolution))) asap",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504281651 139871413,139882615,2017-09-01 16:01:10,">>139874292 My question is, how did such beta males end up with all that power?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504281670 139871413,139882820,2017-09-01 16:03:09,">>139873520 Interdasting. As far as I know the magic number is a sustained 3% growth to hit space and beyond. U guise might all hate on welfare, but it does tend to keep the miscontent in check. Especially in combination with legalized, www and cable. As to the monarchy option. Ask yourself... to whom would you rally when the zombies come?",,Anonymous,,,,,1504281789 139871413,139883382,2017-09-01 16:08:35,"Nicholas II and his family were the honorary whites of the slavic empire. They were classy, polite, and educated. It's very sad about their fate to the hands of the barbaric underclass who were driven into a frenzy by the bolshevik juden. I'd image russia would of been a lot more pleasant if they were to live. Russian wouldn't of entered WW2 and england would of been scared to backstab Germany who warned them that they would reclaim lost land from the treaty.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504282115 139871413,139883430,2017-09-01 16:09:01,>>139883382,,Anonymous,tsar_nicholas_artistic_rendering.jpg,GfxO5+/JYGWODB2J5ZUKVg==,,,1504282141 139871413,139883882,2017-09-01 16:13:24,">>139883430 Beautiful.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504282404 139871413,139884121,2017-09-01 16:15:32,">>139876610 Wow, man, it might be your english, but you really sound dumber than a post. >no farmers",,Anonymous,,,,,1504282532 139871413,139884681,2017-09-01 16:21:03,">>139882214 >Trillionaire corporations What does that mean? Are you talking about stock? Net revenue? Gross revenue? >Lack of accountabiliy And you think you have that now? You live in the US, you know about how many scandles the alphabet agencies in Washington are going on right now. Sure, Trump keeps saying he's going to ""drain the swamp"", but he's been in there for eight months and done nothing to stop corruption. Worse, it seems he's actually implementing the globalist/ neocon agenda and continuing wars in the Middle East. It's like this in every democracy across the world, there is no accountability in democracy. There is never any accountability in government, there is only the systems you put in place to keep it from becoming a tyranny. So do monarchies have those systems? Yes, the citizens of a monarchy will be allowed to carry guns. This means that any attempt to take away the rights of the citizens without allowing them a chance to leave will be met with force and revolution. But why would the monarch allow the citizens to have guns in the first place? A monarchy is the private property of the monarch. The system is built on the trust between the citizen and their lord. The monarch protects the citizens' property, safety, and rights and the citizens work for the lord and pay for his protection. It's a lot like the relationship between a landlord and their tenants, the rent is mandatory only insofar as the tenant is staying at the property, if the tenant refuses to pay they are physically removed from the monarch's property. In this way, the practicality of the tax system is preserved but with the added option of a free man to retreat from civilization altogether if he is unwilling to pay rather than being fined or jailed. Additionally, because of the relative free movement of people allowed by this system, a sort of competitive free market among monarchies is created which allows free men to choose which place to settle in.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504282863 139871413,139884842,2017-09-01 16:22:42,">>139880461 literally nothing wrong with the pic",,Anonymous,1476388139178.jpg,SSHIGy2W5JO9ZtCQ3vRToQ==,HR,,1504282962 139871413,139884899,2017-09-01 16:23:15,">>139871413 Monarchies work because the king or queen literally has all power so they have nothing more to gain from stealing stuff from their own country and people. Its a great system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504282995 139871413,139884908,2017-09-01 16:23:17,">>139884681 >Additionally, because of the relative free movement of people allowed by this system, a sort of competitive free market among monarchies is created which allows free men to choose which place to settle in. Sounds like you are describing patchwork society without knowing what it is. I'd advise you also read Moldbug since you seem to be echoing a few of his ideas unknowingly.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504282997 139871413,139884917,2017-09-01 16:23:24,">>139871413 Forgive my ignorance, but is a monarchy necessary in order to attain a parliamentary?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504283004 139871413,139885073,2017-09-01 16:24:55,">>139884899 You should tell this to all the little children that the Queen's family rapes and tortures.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504283095 139871413,139885108,2017-09-01 16:25:17,>>139871413,,Anonymous,1469399334146.jpg,2Xpr9JoFIkc7njSwE5owiQ==,,,1504283117 139871413,139885155,2017-09-01 16:25:44,"Are there any contemporary monarchist militants that I should know about? I suspect the Houthis secretly want to restore the Shiite monarchy that used to reign in North Yemen. Their nasheeds are quite ballin'. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwlZvg-K9rk",,Anonymous,houthis.jpg,X1067bsUeF6DabXq82s/NA==,US,,1504283144 139871413,139885220,2017-09-01 16:26:22,">>139884681 >>139882214 And before you say something like, ""open borders? so you're saying that ANYONE can come in?"". Let me reiterate that the state is the monarch's property. As such, they can decide who comes in and who they kick out. Let me also remind you that because the populace isn't tricked with a meaningless vote being waved in front of them, they will more quickly resort to armed revolution in the case of uncontrolled immigration into the state. Plus, having an ethnically divided state would sow more tension, revolt, and violence in the future which is not in the est interest of the monarch as they aren't getting any vote cattle out of it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504283182 139871413,139885307,2017-09-01 16:27:24,">>139872867 >what is regency",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504283244 139871413,139885476,2017-09-01 16:29:14,">>139874640 >>139874704 >>139874786 Weak bait, they more than pay for themselves. Also Charles is just BEADY not inbred.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504283354 139871413,139885483,2017-09-01 16:29:18,">>139884908 Just looked him up. From some of the book descriptions the guy seems right up my alley, thanks for the recommendation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504283358 139871413,139885565,2017-09-01 16:30:04,">>139871756 Yay. Let's have nobody ruling and yet only one person ruling! It's like libertarian socialism - let's have less government and more government at the same time!",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504283404 139871413,139885789,2017-09-01 16:32:01,">>139877699 >republicucks are this dumb",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504283521 139871413,139885894,2017-09-01 16:33:01,">>139885565 Don't forget that oxymoron called anarcho-communism! There is no government, but the government has 100% of the power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504283581 139871413,139886098,2017-09-01 16:34:53,">>139884681 >>139884908 And since I know half of you won't read Moldbug anyway, I'll describe his system (albeit poorly) so maybe you'll be intrigued enough to look into it. Basically the world consists of city states ruled by sovereign corporations. The ""monarch"" of the city state is the CEO of the corporation that runs the city state, and is chosen by the board of directors. In a typical sovcorp, citizens have no voting rights, or any say whatsoever on what the government does. The citizens pay to live in the city-state, the goal of the Sovcorp is to get as much profit as possible. The idea is that they wouldn't do anything that would lead to a bad society, because then people would just flee to another city state. So, the free market incentives good governance. Again, this is overlysimplistic but you get the idea. >>139885483 He's a blogger, albeit a very erudite and influential one (had a direct line with Steve Bannon in the White House). His blogs are long as shit and read more like essays than a typical blog. I'd start with: http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/01/gentle-introduction-to-unqualified.html Reminder this shit was written in 2009. Guy is pretty much a genius though. Look into Nick Land too, who is even more a mad man, and even more of a genius. Also fair warning, Moldbug is half Jewish.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504283693 139871413,139886217,2017-09-01 16:36:06,">>139873726 We were pretty damn close to making George Washington king and there was a movement for the south to leave the union and form an empire with Emperor Maximilian of Mexico that stretches from Virginia to northern South America with Cuba as the capitol. I wouldn't call myself a monarchist but even the US has had it's monarchist leanings at times.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504283766 139871413,139886366,2017-09-01 16:37:38,">>139875334 >stolypin Who is he ?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1504283858 139871413,139886690,2017-09-01 16:41:09,>no one posted this yet,,Anonymous,1493325360909.png,QrzQru8NueapuVGVP8x5ew==,GB,,1504284069 139871413,139886745,2017-09-01 16:41:37,">>139879470 I love the metaphor.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1504284097 139871413,139886922,2017-09-01 16:43:41,">>139871413 One day the brazilian monarchy is going to be restored.",,Anonymous,domluizorleansbraganca1.jpg,4iffS5iBLQ/9DwoLPlbmkQ==,BR,,1504284221 139871413,139886946,2017-09-01 16:43:50,">>139886098 That explains why I can only find ebooks instead of physical copies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504284230 139871413,139887114,2017-09-01 16:45:34,"Reporting in with my love for the anarcho-royalist Lys Noir >>139871756 also I think there's something to dig within Stolypin's policies, because they were based on pure annihilation of the communal system (that caused the rejection of the monarchy and made socialism appealing) and were enabling resourceful peasant to become landlords etc. (the Romanov were pretty lame compared to the Rurikids)",,Anonymous,BR_LysNoir.jpg,1Mnot3i255anEmcosD8hXg==,,,1504284334 139871413,139887140,2017-09-01 16:45:53,">>139885155 I'm still battled how Houthis, running around in sandals with aks, managed to assraped the richest best equipped army of the Arab world It's unbelievable >>139886366 Russian empire statesman",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504284353 139871413,139887559,2017-09-01 16:49:56,">>139873848 i bet that 200 years ago there was no difference between the life of a peasant in Russia and England",,Anonymous,,,,,1504284596 139871413,139887691,2017-09-01 16:51:12,">>139877611 >Still butthurt about Batu-khan Hans? and now we spotted the ""churka""",,Anonymous,,,,,1504284672 139871413,139887991,2017-09-01 16:54:16,">>139872322 It looks like he has no pants on and also nodick",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504284856 139871413,139888191,2017-09-01 16:56:16,">>139887559 There's no appreciable difference between a pleb in the EU and the USA, where would you rather live?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504284976 139871413,139888475,2017-09-01 16:59:02,">>139887991 >It feels like I'm wearing nothing at all",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1504285142 139871413,139888551,2017-09-01 16:59:44,">>139888191 probably US, but in terms of being peasant i think there are no difference too",,Anonymous,,,,,1504285184 139871413,139888787,2017-09-01 17:01:49,">>139887140 It's because Saudi officers are shit. They refuse to share information with others out of sheer distrust and also the fact they will be more valuable so are more likely to be held captive not killed. This leads to no flow of information down the chain of command and no one has any idea what the objective is and what exactly to do. Just a basic rundown.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504285309 139871413,139890723,2017-09-01 17:20:23,">>139872031 How on earth is authoritarianism incompatible with monarchism?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504286423 139871413,139890817,2017-09-01 17:21:16,">>139890723 It has an EU flag. He has down syndrome.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504286476 139871413,139890821,2017-09-01 17:21:17,">>139873183 That Aussie is a joke. You speak the truth.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504286477 139871413,139890925,2017-09-01 17:22:13,">>139890723 When did I say they are incompatible? You can have capitalism and socialism, it doesn't make socialism less cancer.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1504286533 139871413,139890995,2017-09-01 17:22:55,">>139872091 What a joke!",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504286575 139871413,139891148,2017-09-01 17:24:20,">>139871413 Monarchy is a type of government, not an ideology, retard sage",,Anonymous,,,,,1504286660 139871413,139891196,2017-09-01 17:24:48,">>139879470 >>139879774 Another point I wanted to make about republics vs monarchies in warfare is about army size. From the point muskets went mainstream until now, warfare was all about how many men with guns you can spare to attack your enemy. Of course is a hell of a lot more nuanced with the invention of artillery, aircraft, missiles, nukes, ect. but the basic principle remained true that the more men with guns the better your chances of winning. This is ultimately why republics that draft large numbers of armies are so effective at warfare. Training someone to use a gun only takes a few weeks and you have half your population at your disposal. Monarchies were always about small, professional armies. Monarchs would use highly trained, well-paid, highly- specialized troops against other monarchies. This kept war casualties to a minimum and spared the civilian population from unnecessary death and destruction (reminder that republics invented total war). This brings us to today, where war is becoming more expensive and less fatal. UAVs, missiles, and other robotic and long-range weapons are making scarcer, more costly to both sides (lives lost on the defender and economic cost on the attacker). This is just like how warfare was under the monarchies, a small, professional army is now becoming the most effective model again. The sort of spending republics like the US put into their military budget is unsustainable with the rising costs of newer, better weapons. It could be one day, that an entire army would be robotic and wars would simply be a battle of whose economy will hold out the longest, making war entirely a waste of money! We might actually be able to see a time soon where the monarchic war economy can surpass the republican simply due to resource allocation, they can't possibly equip enough soldiers with the latest weapons at the same rate as a monarchy. Republics either have to ditch the draft and lose their numerical advantage or bleed themselves dry.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504286688 139871413,139891204,2017-09-01 17:24:50,">>139873849 (((Lenin))) was a Russian. LMAO!!! We all know now what kind of Russian you are. .. Sub-Chechen.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504286690 139871413,139891279,2017-09-01 17:25:33,">>139891148 It can be both you pleb.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504286733 139871413,139891503,2017-09-01 17:27:21,">>139891148 Are you genuinely retarded? Government systems are the manifestations of ideologies. I wonder who's hiding behind that republicuck meme flag?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504286841 139871413,139891571,2017-09-01 17:27:48,">>139874864 The problem of Russia isn't the elites. Its the half-human populace like you, digusting smelly plebs. Which are only functional through their massive numbers. Like the original ""proletarians"" of Rome.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504286868 139871413,139891702,2017-09-01 17:28:53,">>139876295 This German speaks the truth. (Except for the part that Soviets were 90% Russians, he meant the opposite).",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504286933 139871413,139892068,2017-09-01 17:32:22,">>139873726 The mere fact that the word ""cuck"" came into the political spectrum in America should make it clear to you how the monarchies of old were not, shall I say it... cuck central up to their throats in degenerancy. You will not find a more cucked state in History than the United States of America in its current form, with the probable exception of the Soviet Union. Yes, you are more and more Soviet Union tier as the time goes by. Who really won the cold war again, cuck?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504287142 139871413,139892722,2017-09-01 17:38:26,">>139891196 That is cute, your heart is in the right place. But that is a horse shit collection of ideas. Study more. Also, total war was good. It allowed for better ways to defend the Nation-State. Thus, (international) wars become rarer.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504287506 139871413,139892935,2017-09-01 17:40:38,">>139882214 Really? Two things: 1) The Law. 2) The Power of the King.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504287638 139871413,139892967,2017-09-01 17:40:57,">let's bring back some bullshit I have romantic vision of because I hate to read actual history and understand why some things existed and how it actually worked, all the while pretending that autistic NEETs that peddle this shit would be part of the rulling class",,Anonymous,images.jpg,HIakVIT915GrmIvVTjMhvw==,,,1504287657 139871413,139893252,2017-09-01 17:43:40,">>139892722 Eh, haven't fully thought through this aspect quite fully, I'll admit. I feel like that's the point of /generals/ though, to toss ideas around about the ideology and get constructive criticism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504287820 139871413,139893462,2017-09-01 17:45:36,">>139884681 While you are american, and every country should strive to find his perferable system, that which most suits its particular needs... I think you have a rather too libertarian/liberal aproach. Monarchism is not a system like Communism in which people follow instructions of some kind. Monarchy works better in most cases because it allows a human to find what is best, instead of a faction fighting other factions for supremacy (which still happens in a monarchy, but submitted to the higher power of the King). P.S. - As Franco sported himself as ""regent"" of Spain, was ""fascist"" Spain a monarchy? I think it kind of was...",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504287936 139871413,139893518,2017-09-01 17:46:14,">>139892967 Read what has already been said in the general. No-one here has asked to be part of the ruling class.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504287974 139871413,139893658,2017-09-01 17:47:30,">>139886098 Moldberg is rather great. But he surely is not the best man around.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504288050 139871413,139893673,2017-09-01 17:47:38,">>139875532 >Nope, durring the all pre-war negotiations USSR never demanded the whole Finland. Didn't USSR try this trick with the Baltic states ''we only want stategically critical bases'' and whoops suddenly all of Baltics conquered when they accepted the terms. Finland was smarter and knew the initial demands were just a plan to get a foothold to ease the invasion.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1504288058 139871413,139893862,2017-09-01 17:49:41,">>139873726 >1pbtid",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504288181 139871413,139893922,2017-09-01 17:50:12,Anyone think it would be a good idea to compile different types of monarchy into a info-graph of a sort.,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504288212 139871413,139893947,2017-09-01 17:50:25,">>139871413 I wonder, do you think the commies were right to murder Nicolas II since he was one of the most incompetent monarch who ever ruled ?",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1504288225 139871413,139893965,2017-09-01 17:50:35,">>139877246 >1pbtid",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504288235 139871413,139894053,2017-09-01 17:51:21,">>139893252 I come here to find inspiration mostly... Anyway, I think you confuse trends which were specific to a given time with the systems of government permanent at the time. Monarchical (early) Rome was pretty much a total war only state. Greek ""Republics"" or ""Aristocratic"" States... had mostly great professional armies... its complicated. It has more to do with technology and cost of doing what than the system of government. But you clearly seemed willing to think on shit you read. That's a plus.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1504288281 139871413,139894075,2017-09-01 17:51:33,">>139892967 I don't want to be part of the ruling class. I simply don't have the leadership ability for it. I just want a stable, long-lasting government so that I can enjoy it in my time and know my children will enjoy the same thing. Republics are too dynamic and don't conserve what's important. Monarchies do.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504288293 139871413,139894171,2017-09-01 17:52:32,">>139892967 >1pbtid",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504288352 139871413,139894222,2017-09-01 17:53:02,">>139893518 Motives behind these escapist fantasies are only a mystery to people who don't know people. Monarchy is a bygone system of government, and so are the concepts of nobility, institutions like feudalism and so on. They can't exist in modern and technologically advanced societies. It's a regression and human history is not one of regression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504288382 139871413,139894378,2017-09-01 17:54:19,">>139894222 >It's a regression and human history is not one of regression myopic brainlet detected",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504288459 139871413,139894586,2017-09-01 17:56:03,">>139871413 Though I may not believe in Monarchism fully, I believe it is better then any democracy. Its stable, people know who leads the country. People need to be lead, its simple every animal looks to be lead.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504288563 139871413,139894666,2017-09-01 17:56:51,">>139871413 I have nothing about monarchism, but for gods sake, life and work of Nick II is like the perfect argument against monarchy",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1504288611 139871413,139894718,2017-09-01 17:57:15,">>139894075 >republics are too dynamic Funny choice of words. I know what you mean. You can't compete in the contemporary world so you think you would fare better in the old world/new world. The roots of all extremisms. You want to destroy what you think doesn't accept you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504288635 139871413,139894719,2017-09-01 17:57:16,">>139894222 >it's old therefore it's bad",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504288636 139871413,139894987,2017-09-01 17:59:56,">>139872914 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH9yjmmAE3k You are so wrong Valdemar, you were once a rich Monarchy too",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504288796 139871413,139895020,2017-09-01 18:00:15,">>139871413 Nicholas was literally most autistic Tsar ever. His incompetence costed the russian nation a good future. Should have resigned for his brother Michael who actually knew how to rule properly, could have even given more power to social reforms after 1905.",,Anonymous,! ! ! ! ! Nicholas II hunting score.png,nuZgfLwrfxCIv8vV15LLQg==,LV,,1504288815 139871413,139895035,2017-09-01 18:00:24,">>139873183 They owned a part of Persia?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1504288824 139871413,139895152,2017-09-01 18:01:20,">>139894987 why sweden? the two are so inter married you can't separate them",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504288880 139871413,139895232,2017-09-01 18:01:59,">>139894378 Funny how out of all autistic groups here you people are the quickest to call people names as soon as you are faced with opposition. Probably because you really lack and substance to your idea, you just have shallow larping and broad generalizations. >>139894719 Bad for current conditions. It wasn't bad in the past. Systems of government generally reflect society. You can't just impose random fantasies and think they will work.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504288919 139871413,139895238,2017-09-01 18:02:06,All forms of government revert back to Monarchy.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1504288926 139871413,139895646,2017-09-01 18:05:53,">>139895232 >spams about ""autism"" and ""larping"" over and over without ever backing it up >accuses others of lacking substance and broad generalisations",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504289153 139871413,139895693,2017-09-01 18:06:21,"ffs youtube have done it now now it's impossible to find shit there",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504289181 139871413,139895734,2017-09-01 18:06:44,">>139895020 >hunting dogs and cats what a cuck",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1504289204 139871413,139895782,2017-09-01 18:07:15,">>139895238 Most of human history is one of monarchies, and monarchies and nobility and all that made sense in the past, it arose naturally from conditions. However cycles can be broken. Believe it or not, we came a long way from our ancestors. Monarchies and concepts that follow them are simply obsolete.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504289235 139871413,139895880,2017-09-01 18:08:15,">>139895646 That's just my anecodtal evidence and separate from explanation why monarchy can't work today.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504289295 139871413,139896023,2017-09-01 18:09:33,">>139895880 you have yet to provide an explanation of why monarchy can't work today that isn't purely anecdotal",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504289373 139871413,139896027,2017-09-01 18:09:35,">>139875532 >Nope, durring the all pre-war negotiations USSR never demanded the whole Finland. communist lies which led to over a million of you getting stabbed in the ass to death",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504289375 139871413,139896086,2017-09-01 18:10:12,">>139874640 >>139874704 >>139874786 I don't agree with this piece of shit but I feel like some of the hate comes from them ""not like doing anything!"" I think that's true, sure they created the invictus games or whatever, or make a donation to a charity but who gives a shit. I think it was Harry who actually served in the military which is fantastic. Remember when Kings or royalty would actually fight in (or at least attend) battles? Actually do things? I'm sure if they were given actual power that they're supposed to have people would still complain about it. My understanding of a constitutional monarchy is: It's a monarchy but is limited by the constitution. The way it is now though is the royal family is an attraction and nothing more, we're actually just a republic but with traditional names. I just want them to do something but I know it wouldn't sit well with anyone",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1504289412 139871413,139896193,2017-09-01 18:11:02,"they haven't fucked with wardruna yet, but they for some reason have fucked up all sab shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fnPwj1AMpo",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504289462 139871413,139896270,2017-09-01 18:11:48,">>139871413 I'm feeling like having an actual discussion today so you're in luck OP. What if the monarch doesn't want to defend tradition, isn't just as bad as liberal democracy at that point? Wouldn't a monarch lead to unnecessary wars such as WWI?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504289508 139871413,139896313,2017-09-01 18:12:07,">>139895734 It was basically most common sport in all of nobility. Royal Hunting wasn't hunting specific animals, but every living animal they encountered. Nicholas wrote in his diaries his daily routine. >wake up >shoot a crow in a eye >eat >go to forest for hunting and on the way shoot a crow in the eye >day over >shoot a crow in the eye before sleep autism.",,Anonymous,russian emperor hunt scores..jpg,OsxtB22wSylduZOnXPPu0A==,LV,,1504289527 139871413,139896472,2017-09-01 18:13:37,damnit I am out of beer and the store is closed,,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504289617 139871413,139896474,2017-09-01 18:13:37,">>139882242 they technically still have the reigns to end parliament and do what they want.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504289617 139871413,139896582,2017-09-01 18:14:47,">>139896313 are his diaries available online? i understand russkie",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1504289687 139871413,139896595,2017-09-01 18:14:57,">>139896474 Oh shit that's really interesting. If I were king I would have ended that shit a long time ago. Fuck the muzzies!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504289697 139871413,139896795,2017-09-01 18:17:03,">>139896313 crow? that's not people food that's even worse than eating a seagull they are all stringy",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504289823 139871413,139896955,2017-09-01 18:18:38,">>139895232 >Bad for current conditions. It wasn't bad in the past. How exactly is it bad just now? Democracy is just as old, it was used in ancient Athens. Athenians ended up throwing it out the window because people just voted for others stuff basically. Same with the Romans too many divisions and wars as a result of again republicanism. Just now we need to think long term to get out of this debt crisis and impending demographical doom. Monarchies provide just that. A monarch has a vested interest in his property, as a monarch, he of course wants a lot of income from the country but he must also take into consideration what this would do to it's value e.g. industry. Thinking ahead in the long term, which is key to solving both economical and social issues caused by demographics and debt... So no a monarch is a good solution to our problems, moreover his heir generally continues this attitude and there will be a lot of cumulative wealth in the country increasing everyone's standard of living. A democracy on the other hand is only a caretaker to the country and will look for short term solutions, like mass immigration to A be re-elected(if possible) and B get as much value in the shortest space of time. This does not take into account the further issues which may come in the road ahead but hey that's not his job, just another's to repeat this process ad infinum,",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504289918 139871413,139896985,2017-09-01 18:19:00,">>139896023 I already told you. Technology and society changed. We live in a different world. Do you wonder for example why republican system again began to appear in medieval period in rich Italian and German cities? There's no going back. That is, unless you recreate conditions that existed in past. You can have autocratic governments and dictators, but none of them will ever call themselves monarchies because the idea that power comes from people/nation and that nation as whole has sovereignty became almost universal. Besides, much of stuff you people here suggest (parliamentarianism for example) is not really monarchy, but rather some transitional period. Did power go back to king in UK? Nope, because UK enjoyed stability and progress and over time royal power was more and more limited. You are free to suggest a new and a better system to what we have today, but suggesting old system under current conditions is just childish escapism. It's gone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504289940 139871413,139897059,2017-09-01 18:19:47,"we all hate seagulls, they are really annoying while you are out fishing. Take a smoke and flick the bud out in the ocean one of them motherfuckers are always there to grab it midair, but ffs you don't eat them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6loWrABr8gA >Yggdrasil shakes >Ash standing",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504289987 139871413,139897109,2017-09-01 18:20:19,">>139896582 ""The Diaries of Nicholas II 1894-1917"" Search it somewhere. I can't remember where i read it. There are tons of voluems and secret last one in 1918, but it is debatable becasue it could have been bolshevik propaganda after his death.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1504290019 139871413,139897172,2017-09-01 18:20:53,">>139893947 Nope. However incompetent Nicholas II was, he wasn't evil or cruel in his incompetence. Even when someone tried to assassinate him, he gave the man a fair trial and only a few years in prison. I feel like the man had a good heart, but just panicked during Bloody Sunday and after that condemned himself to playing whack-a-mole with various revolutionary groups until the February Revolution. He really wan't meant to rule and he was arrogant to think that he could despite his lack of experience.The Soviets were cruelly incompetent, though. Look up Trofim Lysenko and read the Gulag Archipelago for more of that. Sure you might get an incompetent ruler or two in a monarchy, but you never get the sort of evil that can happen under a republic. >>139894718 I grew up in an upper-middle class family and am studying nuclear engineering, I'm ""competing"" in the world just fine, thank you. >The root of all extremism is a return to the past Then explain communism. There never was a communist society before 1915, yet the Bolsheviks managed to radicalize to the point of going to war with the government. I want to keep the fire of tradition burning, not return to when it burned brighter. That's a pipedream, you can't return to the past. Rather, we must look to the past to repair the present. If you take a wrong turn while driving, you have to back up first before you can go the right way. Also, how do you know we haven't been going the wrong way for the last few hundred years? Just because we've stuck to a wrong course for that long doesn't make it the right course. >You want to destroy what you think won't accept you I don't even know what this means. My culture? My economy? My government? What?",,Anonymous,tradition.jpg,8f/mYTLyQKmMI903sMW8cA==,US,,1504290053 139871413,139897221,2017-09-01 18:21:24,">>139896795 Not eating the crow kek, just daily meal.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1504290084 139871413,139897225,2017-09-01 18:21:29,"this one is better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqhhlmz6gik",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504290089 139871413,139897256,2017-09-01 18:21:54,">>139896985 >Nope, because UK enjoyed stability and progress and over time royal power was more and more limited. The UK enjoyed this because of the industrial revolution and colonialism not republicanism. The Germans enjoyed the same but were basically absolutist.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504290114 139871413,139897371,2017-09-01 18:23:08,">>139897221 I can understand that people eat duck we don't do that here but duck is actually quite good not infested crow or seagull >now we're talking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_QbyP6q0AQ",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504290188 139871413,139897470,2017-09-01 18:24:03,">>139897371 >not listening to houthi nasheeds shit's catchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxALV1h4Y2w",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504290243 139871413,139897732,2017-09-01 18:26:40,">>139896955 That was past, very different conditions, but as you can see republicanism worked even in those conditions. Of course it failed eventually, that's inevitable with anything. But I'm saying that when current system fails, it won't go back to monarchy and what follows it. That's gone. You people just repeat that shit like a mantra, even though those are just general statements with no substance. I have no idea why do you believe one man with unlimited power must necessarily be better. People can always fuck up, even with best intentions. Problem with monarchy is that you're stuck with a fuck-up until he dies. And then fuck-ups progeny gets to inherit, and I have no idea why do you believe education has 100% success rate. Royalty of old were schooled by brightest minds, yet many were fuck-ups nonetheless. Also, did you hear of that idea, expression, that power corrupts? It's true for the most. You really need exceptional individuals. And you have more chance of getting those when your pool is not limited to one family.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504290400 139871413,139897786,2017-09-01 18:27:09,"Poland had one of the best economic growth's under Romanovs rule. And I ain't shitting you, we have even our's own bank. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franciszek_Ksawery_Drucki-Lubecki And remember polish kids, Nicholas II The Saint was last polish king",,Anonymous,Military_ensign_of_Vistula_Flotilla_of_Congress_Poland.svg.png,BtU86sFW1qvxql6fuZmwgQ==,PL,,1504290429 139871413,139897839,2017-09-01 18:27:35,">>139897470 hezbollah nazeeds are sweet desu damnit I was going to post the best one but kiketube has deleted it >Fidika fidika hezbollah fidika >something something something",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504290455 139871413,139898008,2017-09-01 18:29:10,">>139897470 found it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPEK1alRKT8 pretty sure they are singing about gassing the jews here >da jahood language has no borders",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504290550 139871413,139898334,2017-09-01 18:32:03,">>139897470 wrong link that was their platinum album here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS88bxCW690 it topped /sg/ top ten for months",,Anonymous,1501119367611.gif,z5b177EV+VEaDU+Dtbo6KQ==,NO,,1504290723 139871413,139898433,2017-09-01 18:32:56,">>139897172 I don't understand your communism argument. Communism was a novel idea at that time. It wasn't past. Despite Marx claiming that original human groups were communist. >>139897256 Same trends started to appear in Germany too. Except Germany had a quite different history and conditions, you're simplifying here. And why do you think those started in UK? And please, you're English, just read how some of your kings acted. Charles II was a fucking idiot for example. But English conditions allowed the rise of middle-class that over time challenged and prevailed against monarchy. And that is the root of English success.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504290776 139871413,139898525,2017-09-01 18:33:54,">>139897786 Shame Poland didn't get fully the same treatment as Finland got.",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1504290834 139871413,139898538,2017-09-01 18:34:01,">>139897732 >That was past, very different conditions, but as you can see republicanism worked even in those conditions. They through it out because it didn't work. Literally this opposite >You people just repeat that shit like a mantra, even though those are just general statements with no substance. What ? I provided both current issues and exactly why a monarchy would be superior to solve them. Seems like substance to me >Royalty of old were schooled by brightest minds, yet many were fuck-ups nonetheless. Yet many were just as great, why do we only hear of the bad ones? A person trained from birth per say will be a lot more qualified than some one who studied pol-sci at Uni and spent half his time in government trying to retain his position. A monarch can spend that half time being productive. Moreover a monarch does not even need to be that skilled just recognise skill in others of he wishes, appoint the most competent and loyal advisers etc. Even if he is a downy regency exists. >Also, did you hear of that idea, expression, that power corrupts? It's true for the most. You really need exceptional individuals. That could apply to both.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504290841 139871413,139898680,2017-09-01 18:35:08,">>139897786 That's actually true, but not thanks to Nicholas II. That man, while kind demonized thanks to Bolshevik propaganda, bears the most responsibility for the rise of Bolsheviks. His successor Kerensky also played a short but important role. An even bigger idiot than Nicholas II.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504290908 139871413,139898997,2017-09-01 18:37:55,">>139898525 Yes that's because of sensless uprising started by literall retards like Piotr Wysoscki >>139898680 Yes, but after all Nicholas II killed much less poles than (((Lenin))) and Stalin did.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1504291075 139871413,139899239,2017-09-01 18:40:03,">>139898433 >Same trends started to appear in Germany too. Because of similiar economics factors all across Europe. How am i simplifying? I refuted your statement saying representation brings prosperity. >Charles II was a fucking idiot for example. Charles was one of the most popular and beloved kings of England,[1] known as the Merry Monarch. OK, he was pretty average after some fuck ups earlier in his reign. He was both good and bad.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504291203 139871413,139899254,2017-09-01 18:40:15,">>139898433 You said that the root of all extremism is a desire to return to the ""old world"". My argument regarding communism is that a communist government did not exist before 1915, and yet the revolutionaries who brought that government into being were extreme enough to war with the government. Communism is a utopian ideology, it doesn't want to return to anything but instead destroy the old to make way for the utopia. Marx saying that ""original human groups were communist"" was just his pathetic, unfounded counter to the naturalist argument for capitalism, being that the right to private property is inherent in our genetics. And that communist naturalist argument isn't even used by today's communists for the reason that it has no basis in fact.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504291215 139871413,139899369,2017-09-01 18:41:16,">>139898680 Speaking about autist monarchs, I recall that one famous austrian painter-politician wrote in his book, that monarchism is actually ok, because even if the monarch is complete retard, he is assisted by a whole squad of advisors, that will direct him in the right way. But a few years before he wrote this, couple of european monarchs single handedly fucked up the whole old order",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1504291276 139871413,139899465,2017-09-01 18:42:11,">>139898334 breddy good",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504291331 139871413,139899753,2017-09-01 18:44:52,">>139898538 They didn't do anything. Conditions changed and monarchy reappeared. But early Roman Empire was far from usual monarchies. Roman emperors kept the trappings and style of a republic up until dominate period. And most of that period was simply surviving, not growth, eith huge problems and shitload of emperors. Just see 3rd century. >many were just as great And great ones usually had their work fucked up by worse ones. Great men are exceptional. A system designed around great men fails when a mediocre man comes. Republics are better equipped to deal with that. >a person trained from birth We have historical experience. Nope. Education is not 100% succesful. >just recognize skills Dude, that's probably the most important characteristic of a leader, and quite rare. >apply to both It does, but in this system you throw them out after some time. If a leader really fucks up, he's out. Meanwhile monarch REALLY has to fuck up before enough people are pissed off to depose him. Thing is we are talking about very broad subject so I'm forced to generalize hard. But you present a very simplistic and romantic image, and from empirical evidence we see it was far from that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504291492 139871413,139899813,2017-09-01 18:45:23,">>139899465 yeah I had this song on my head for a couple of weeks they know how to nasheed that's for sure I still prefer wardruna though sólstafir is pruddy gud too desu >fidaki fidaki hezbollah fidaki",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1504291523 139871413,139899968,2017-09-01 18:46:43,">>139882242 >They don't rule over anybody and haven't for a very long time now. Yes they do. They are landlords to thousands of people. Their wealth is all ill-gotten through centuries of murder and brutality. They should be dispossessed of most of their wealth. Let them stay is one small palace and sell tickets if they are such a great tourist attraction.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504291603 139871413,139900062,2017-09-01 18:47:43,"the one thing I will miss when isis is gone, is their nasheeds, they were pruddy gud too they are soon done for now, I assume within the year is a likely time frame",,Anonymous,a757746bb848249b133c3e7fa6121335114e468dc1c44732157789bf9bc1b994.jpg,RFeJqDoafaw4on2a09HGPA==,NO,,1504291663 139871413,139900149,2017-09-01 18:48:38,">The Royalist party in America is completely dead and any hints of Monarchy in the US is laughed out of existence Being a monarchist is suffering.",,Anonymous,1478638201573.jpg,XFS3Gn1QHmC9mhtQ4ob8mA==,US,,1504291718 139871413,139900154,2017-09-01 18:48:40,">>139899254 I refered to this case, not all extremism, I expressed myself badly. But root of all extremism is a desire to destroy modern world because individual doesn't fit in. We're on internet, so we can say whatever we want. But happy succesful people don't become extremists. >>139899369 Advisors caused WW1 ironically. Wilhelm II gets blamed, but he himself was so-and-so, and went on a cruise right before the start. Why would a man hellbent on war go on a cruise? It was his generals and politicians. They wanted war.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504291720 139871413,139900207,2017-09-01 18:49:11,">>139896086 >The way it is now though is the royal family is an attraction and nothing more FALSE. They are landlords to thousands of people. They have billions of wealth from centuries of brutality and killing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504291751 139871413,139900355,2017-09-01 18:50:38,">>139900207 House of Windsor wasn't really that brutal or murderous. You're right about huge wealth though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504291838 139871413,139900378,2017-09-01 18:50:51,">>139882474 Fuck you. Maybe if somebody brutally mugs you and beats you to a pulp, you'll have a different opinion.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504291851 139871413,139900632,2017-09-01 18:53:04,">>139900378 He'd probably go into spasms if you said that same logic applies to all those deposed monarchs and nobility.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504291984 139871413,139900689,2017-09-01 18:53:41,">>139896985 >There's no going back. That is, unless you recreate conditions that existed in past. are you new here or what? there is precisely no one here with a linear view of history, everyone here believes in cyclical history i.e. pic related or else we would not be here. everything we see in society points to the fact that the aforementioned will occur, that the freedom, plenty and liberalism that we experience now will expire and that the population at large who seem to think of these as automatic, ever sedated by shallow gratifying activities like junk food and TV, don't even recognise the call to arms to defend them. democracy will continue to ebb away via its own decadence until C A E S A R I S M takes hold, and there is NOTHING you can do",,Anonymous,Cy2h1kqVEAApcmH.jpg,OfTJO6zWOOoAzgG69zOUYQ==,GB,,1504292021 139871413,139901126,2017-09-01 18:58:25,">>139900689 Spengler didn't mean classic monarchies will reappear buddy. Caesar himself wasn't a king (rex was seen as a pejorative term in Rome). And according to Spengler those are the dying throes of a civilization. I don't know if Spengler is right. He didn't account for technological progress. Material factors are relevant you know.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504292305 139871413,139901188,2017-09-01 18:59:03,">>139899753 >And great ones usually had their work fucked up by worse ones. Great men are exceptional. A system designed around great men fails when a mediocre man comes. Republics are better equipped to deal with that. It's not designed around great men though, it's designed around long term rule. Republics only focus on the short term as short term solutions allow them to be re-elected and/or fill their pockets quickly in their time allocated. >We have historical experience. Nope. Education is not 100% successful. You can't just say no it doesn't work. Moreover, they will certainly be more qualified than our politicians currently. I explained before. >Dude, that's probably the most important characteristic of a leader, and quite rare. Then surely it is one they should focus on. Even if he can't everyone has their strong points, hire publicly notable people with skills to cover their weaknesses. They would be notable for a reason ; because they are good. That doesn't take a lot of skill. >It does, but in this system you throw them out after some time. If a leader really fucks up, he's out. You sure ? Just as many if not more tyrants have been voted in and forced themselves to stay in power. >Meanwhile monarch REALLY has to fuck up before enough people are pissed off to depose him. I'd argue the opposite, because voting does not exist he would face more scrutiny and people more quickly to depose. Show your evidence then, Charles II couldn't have been bad considering he was loved. Is democracy any better since Hitler came to power and caused millions of deaths? You are presenting a simplistic image arguing your Joe blogs knows about government and what is best.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504292343 139871413,139901355,2017-09-01 19:00:40,">>139900154 >>139900154 Willy ultimately had the main word. He signed death sentence for Germany the day he sacked Bismarck. But even when you ignore Willy, there was Franz Joseph, and attacking Serbia was mainly his idea. And then there was Nicky, his country was literally falling apart, one revolution almost took him down after fiasco during Japanese war. He didnt give a fuck and lived his NEET live of drinking champagne and shooting rabbits all day. Maybe while a bullet went through his brain, he finally realized how much he fucked up",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1504292440 139871413,139901819,2017-09-01 19:05:02,">>139901126 >Material factors",,Anonymous,1463304992844.png,mZ11G31BpxLkAVj3mQHICw==,GB,,1504292702 139871413,139902163,2017-09-01 19:08:38,"Do you support feudalism, with peasants and serfs or some sort of libertarian constitutional monarchy?",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1504292918 139871413,139902205,2017-09-01 19:09:02,">>139897172 >to think that he could What makes you say that he thought he could rule? There is evidence that he doubted his capabilities to rule and like the previous Nicholas took the throne as it was his duty.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504292942 139871413,139902303,2017-09-01 19:10:06,">>139901188 A system like that expands when the great man comes, and then when mediocre man comes it has to contract. And contraction is painful. I'm talking about typical monarchy of course. A system not based on one person/family is not really a typical monarchy. >can't just say Use some experience from real-life dude. According to you rich kids must all be succesful and highly educated. I dare say those like that are sadly exceptions. Why would it be different with rulers kid? What if king is lax and doesn't want to bore him with all that? What if heir decides he's gonna become a painter instead of a ruler? I'm giving dumb examples but life is so more complex than what you imply in your posts. >doesn't take a lot of skill Again, picking right people is a very rare skill. >tyrants have been voted in Yeah and most were deposed eventually. And most arose in countries with little republican/democratic tradition. They rarely reverted to monarchies though. >Hitler As I said, a country in a specific condition, with little democratic tradition. Using Hitler as an example of a democratically elected monarch is like saying every king was Charles II (of Spain), or Caligula.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504293006 139871413,139902505,2017-09-01 19:11:56,">>139901355 More like von Hotzendorf pestered him about it until he cracked. It's cosmic justice his army got so BTFO. Sad about his soldiers I guess. >>139901819 Ignoring material is just pointless. I'm not a materialist though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1504293116 139871413,139903568,2017-09-01 19:22:27,">>139900149 I know that feel bro. Maybe Liechtenstein will let us join. >>139900154 >extremism is a desire to destroy the modern world Okay, now we have a definition to work from. So extremism is a desire to tear down the current order and remake it in another fashion. In that case, the ~30% of Americans that fought in the revolutionary war were extremists. They were unhappy with their (then) modern society of being under British rule and decided to tear it down and build anew. Was the Army of the Three Guarantees an extremist movement as they wanted to destroy Spanish rule of Mexico? How about the members of Ghandi's Salt March? Or the March on Rome? How about the average voter who disagrees on a single policy? I don't think that's what you're getting at. You need to define your words more carefully. Everyone disagrees with the current order in some regard and everyone wants to preserve something of that old order in some way. No individual fits perfectly into their role. The role is an abstract concept, so it's impossible to do that. But that doesn't mean that all extremists are more unlike their role in society than the non-extremist. The natsocs come to mind, they seem to love their respective nations and history more than anyone else around them, and so they don't fit in with the growingly anti-nationalist mainstream culture. >Happy successful people don't become extremists I disagree, but in order to accurately address why I'd like to wait and see if you revise your definition of ""extremism"" first.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504293747 139871413,139903791,2017-09-01 19:24:50,">>139903568 the ~30% of Americans SUPPORTED the Revolutionary War, not fought in it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504293890 139871413,139903846,2017-09-01 19:25:19,">>139902303 >A system like that expands when the great man comes, and then when mediocre man comes it has to contract. And contraction is painful. I'm talking about typical monarchy of course. A system not based on one person/family is not really a typical monarchy. If a government contracted every time a mediocre monarch came into power how exactly would kingdoms expand over a series of hundreds of years. See : literally most modern countries that came from the renaissance. Spain ,Prussia ,Austria, Turkey ,UK, France and Russia up to the start of the Industrial era all had : poor, mediocre and great kings but all expanded, but according to what you just said could not happen? Explain ? >Accrding to you rich kids must all be successful and highly educated We are talking about old money here, the kind that save every penny yet they are millionaires, well-spoken and educated but they are also down to earth. Not you nouveau-riche people that you think are ""rich"". A completely different kettle of fish and they would most likely rule conservatively with little debt, much like they manged their money but only with more are stake and more to gain. >Again, picking right people is a very rare skill. Did you read what i said, well known. Surely is they are well known they will be an effective adviser, any pleb can see that. >Yeah and most were deposed eventually. And most arose in countries with little republican/democratic tradition. They rarely reverted to monarchies though. Still doesn't change the fact that there is just a great a possibility that absolute oppression can happen assuming that what you mean. >Using Hitler as an example of a democratically elected monarch is like saying every king was Charles II (of Spain), or Caligula. A bit of an extreme example but my points still stands. With this ""democratic tradition"" how do you explain the fact that the Athenians the creators of democracy gave up on it after is was found ineffective.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504293919 139871413,139904179,2017-09-01 19:28:36,">>139900154 >But happy successful people don't become extremists. How do you explain Osama bin laden, he was a multi-millionaire heir to a company but founded Al Qaeda ?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1504294116 139871413,139904412,2017-09-01 19:30:48,">>139904179 He was a muslim",,Anonymous,,,,,1504294248 139871413,139904664,2017-09-01 19:33:09,">>139904412 And that's relevant how?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504294389 139871413,139904948,2017-09-01 19:35:55,">>139871413 FUCK THE MONARCHY! #nogodsnokingsonlyman",,Anonymous,,,,,1504294555 139871413,139905259,2017-09-01 19:39:08,">>139904412 The Muslim religion is violent, constantly speaking for genocide and the killing of the 'infidels.' I do agree that monarchies can be good, with the correct infrastructure and leadership.",,Anonymous,1244623461.jpg,f5fUWLKaV3XunCc7zCoIRg==,,,1504294748 139871413,139905318,2017-09-01 19:39:42,">>139905259 meant for >>139904664",,Anonymous,,,,,1504294782 139871413,139905627,2017-09-01 19:43:00,">>139904948 go back to twitter mate",,Anonymous,1503347365162.jpg,FMMkoO1eGTTQFuTr0lyA0Q==,,,1504294980 139871413,139907903,2017-09-01 20:01:36,">>139904948 You seem like a libertarian fellow. You should read Carl Schmitt's ""The Concept of the Political"" for a deconstruction of liberalism and some reasoning on why autocracy is necessary for a society, but keep in mind that he's more of a fascist and not a monarchist. Then read ""The Leviathan"" for more of a focus on monarchy. Then read Hoppe's ""Democracy: The God That Failed"" and ""Aristocracy to Monarchy to Democracy"" for how monarchy actually better for preserving liberty than an anarchic or democratic framework. That's what convinced me to drop libertarianism for a libertarian-monarchy. Check out the stuff in these other posts here: >>139871756 , >>139880146 , >>139886098",,Anonymous,1500858753255.png,I4IOKEwZI/OCwS9N2iY2+g==,US,,1504296096 139979417,139979417,2017-09-02 12:30:42,"Edition: Battle of Sedan edition On September the 2nd, Prussian forces engaged with the French forces, killing 3200 and capturing 104,000, including Napoleon III, officially ending the Second French Empire, and finalizing the Unification of Germany. This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/DtgwDHGz Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",/MG/ - Monarchism General,Anonymous,battle_of_sedan.jpg,dFpiNr8xTLh7kBRIB9kEyw==,,,1504355442 139979417,139979504,2017-09-02 12:31:37,,,Anonymous,For the love of tea.jpg,H2YPtwYIpOVlgf+0/DN4PA==,US,,1504355497 139979417,139979660,2017-09-02 12:33:06,,,Anonymous,DeathToSerbia.jpg,CYgjdx+zaiMaH6wTpVOTQg==,US,,1504355586 139979417,139979943,2017-09-02 12:36:02,,,Anonymous,Large_Portrait_of_Maximiliano.jpg,DXla55EAhMkX7blYcVFE8w==,US,,1504355762 139979417,139980098,2017-09-02 12:37:30,>>139979417,,Anonymous,i_am_the_state.png,1Zhlutz1OHyldh3jPuYH4Q==,,,1504355850 139979417,139980275,2017-09-02 12:39:25,,,Anonymous,WilhelmDidNothingWrong.png,+jgdnE68gcLDFmmM+agO4A==,US,,1504355965 139979417,139980341,2017-09-02 12:40:02,,,Anonymous,Muh Free markets.jpg,0pr2c4adUhGyPeCuM6VD1w==,US,,1504356002 139979417,139981759,2017-09-02 12:55:21,">americans dreaming about monarchy hate to break it to you pal, but you had multpile chances to become a comfy kingdom, but you ruined it",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1504356921 139979417,139982011,2017-09-02 12:58:06,">>139981759 > most of us are descendants of immigrants and about to go back because of how shitty this place is now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504357086 140038788,140038788,2017-09-02 22:29:41,"Edition: King George VI This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/DtgwDHGz Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",/MG/ - Monarchism General,Anonymous,king_george_vi.jpg,dU2iDr6Fi8d3eU2e8bnsoQ==,US,,1504391381 140038788,140038859,2017-09-02 22:30:29,,,Anonymous,For the love of tea.jpg,H2YPtwYIpOVlgf+0/DN4PA==,US,,1504391429 140038788,140039538,2017-09-02 22:38:19,">>140038788 >Ideologies do not die Yes they do you dumb faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504391899 140038788,140039753,2017-09-02 22:40:43,">>140039538 in that case, who do you propose decides which ideologies are dead? And even if this ideology is dead, who said we can't resurrect it?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504392043 140038788,140040342,2017-09-02 22:47:26,">>140039753 >in that case, who do you propose decides which ideologies are dead? The fact that there's no white country that's an absolute monarchy and no one would support going back to one. And you already said in the OP the ignorant masses abandon ideals so you're never going to get this off the ground or ""resurrect it"" with that retarded attitude too.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1504392446 141657529,141657529,2017-09-15 15:31:41,"Edition: Queen Victoria Edition This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Social Media: Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",/MG/ - Monarchism General,Anonymous,queen_victoria.jpg,5PU/S0r+0l4socKt4eP6cg==,,,1505489501 141657529,141659703,2017-09-15 15:51:27,">>141657529 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJEA7Nf7fKA he's right, if Americans are so terrified of foreigners interfering in their elections(something they do to other countries regularly) then why don't they adopt a hereditary monarchy so that never happens again?",,Anonymous,pepe da monarquia.png,hp5GjTzYXMXgZkKoOiKzsA==,PT,,1505490687 142022469,142022469,2017-09-18 16:45:30,"MONARCHISM GENERAL IS DEDICATED TO THE DISCUSSION OF THE MOST NATURAL FORM OF HUMAN GOVERNANCE. All Republicans must re-affirm loyalty to their deposed monarch, or face the consequences of treason. READING: http://reason.com/reasontv/2016/03/21/prince-of-liechtenstein https://www.mises.org/library/libertarian-case-monarchy http://nationalpost.com/opinion/todays-letters-the-monarchy-is-an-essential-part-of-canada VIDEO: Interview with Prince Hans Adam of Liechtenstein: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXBX3e1T64 THREAD THEME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mursg7TZsE",/MG/ MONARCHISM GENERAL,Anonymous,The _Crown.jpg,/7ssYRXoSJoP0/dJ51ZsQw==,CA,,1505753130 142022469,142023936,2017-09-18 16:58:58,Bump for the Queen,,Anonymous,HRH.jpg,K39QN6JPOa5BAySg9Z77sg==,CA,,1505753938 142933332,142933332,2017-09-25 23:39:02,"/mg/ - Monarchist General Edition: Did Edward VIII really do anything wrong? This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/LyfpyJPt Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. If Monarchism is dead, then National Socialism has been dead for seventy years, and Communism the last two decades. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. The characterization of North Korea has a Monarchy is a stupid and loose connection based entirely on one facet of Monarchism, Hereditary inheritance, which is not even a universal - but extremely common - belief among monarchists. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: This is a huge characterization of monarchism and history in General. Various different forms of Monarchy can occur from Absolutism to Constitutionalism and everything in between; the existance of a Monarch does not automatically mandate that the various rights and freedoms of the people should then be culled. Take a look at states such as Liechtenstein for a modern example of this, or one can point to the historic example of the 1848 German Confederation / Empire in which revolutionaries attempted to install a Constitutional Monarchy. Social Media: Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",/MG/ - Monarchism General - Edward VIII,Anonymous,edward_viii.jpg,Q5sjQeW7jnB8DXPklOuISQ==,,,1506382742 142933332,142933555,2017-09-25 23:41:24,Also visit http://mourningtheancient.com/truth.htm for more Powerful Truths!,,Aleksander Dugin is PRO WHITE GENOCIDE he runs ANTIFA,Make America Great Again with Nationa Socialism American National Socialism Swastika American Flag Meme.png,w7aMQtxZCx2hdstJkvxMlQ==,,,1506382884 142933332,142933680,2017-09-25 23:42:44,">If Monarchism is dead, then National Socialism has been dead for seventy years, and Communism the last two decades Change the dates slightly, and that's a fair argument to make. Good job OP",,Anonymous,,,US,,1506382964 142933332,142934705,2017-09-25 23:55:04,pity bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1506383704 142933332,142934921,2017-09-25 23:57:42,Monarchy fits the order of the human race.,,Anonymous,,,,,1506383862 142933332,142935529,2017-09-26 00:04:46,">>142933332 I'm up for ether. Democracy is dead to me. We made it 1000s of years without having to worry about anything of this magnitude because we had leaders.",,Anonymous,4cddcd538dd6b0abfbab4dc0506aa4e961985c23_1_600x400.jpg,CBe86VcyXgWnrnJbT8lkjQ==,US,,1506384286 144038986,144038986,2017-10-04 15:17:45,"Daily Reminder that Monarchy is the most natural form of Human governance. This thread os for the discussion of such. Republicans are asked to kindly listen, and then swear fealty. Thread theme: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mursg7TZsE Oath of Fealty to the Queen of Britain and the Commonwealth Realms: >I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God. Interesting Links: Libertarianism and Monarchy: >https://www.mises.org/library/libertarian-case-monarchy Interview with the prince of Liechtenstein: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXBX3e1T64 Address by the King of Spain: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bfHiDctjhk Monarchist Societies, remember to join and donate: UK: http://www.monarchist.org.uk/ Canada: http://www.monarchist.ca/ Australia: https://monarchist.org.au/ New Zealand: http://monarchy.org.nz/ France: http://www.allianceroyale.fr/",/MG/ Monarchism General,Anonymous,HRH.jpg,K39QN6JPOa5BAySg9Z77sg==,CA,,1507130265 144038986,144039052,2017-10-04 15:18:15,"Lord Conrad Black on Monarchy: >No one imagines the Royal Family is composed of brilliant people, though some are quite intelligent, but they are solid, reliable and dedicated. And the British institutions that are headed by people of whom the same can be said are so scarce that, apart from the military, it is a challenge to think of any. >It was not the Queen who ditched Britain’s closest allies and most selfless supporters in the world, the old Commonwealth of Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, to plunge into a Europe that is now in shambles except for Germany and its coteries of satellites. >The monarch did not commit Britain beyond reason to the special relationship with the United States, which ended abruptly when a new American regime decided it had no interest in Britain and sent back the bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office. >Her Britannic Majesty has her ministers to thank for those brainwaves, and they have gone, and she’s still there, and will remain, even unto the third following generation, and beyond. >There is no need to incant “God save the Queen,” not because God is dead, as has also been reported, but because the Queen is in no need of salvation. The people are. >http://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-the-monarchys-upswing-started-with-a-death-not-a-birth",,Anonymous,The _Crown.jpg,/7ssYRXoSJoP0/dJ51ZsQw==,CA,,1507130295 144038986,144039291,2017-10-04 15:20:06,">>144038986 No stable modern government could possibly be formed without an implicit mandate from the people. Monarchism / NRx is a retarded movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507130406 144038986,144039421,2017-10-04 15:21:16,,,Anonymous,Monarchism Against NatSoc.png,swylp/+PRxcYh+rv9F4o9A==,,,1507130476 144038986,144039510,2017-10-04 15:22:15,">>144038986 Most unfair form of governance. You just have to been born",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1507130535 144038986,144039644,2017-10-04 15:23:24,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbQ9wYHeY0c French monarchist here, a monarchist song for you lads",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1507130604 144038986,144039815,2017-10-04 15:25:00,">>144039291 (((modern))) government",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507130700 144038986,144039820,2017-10-04 15:25:05,">>144039510 They'll tell you life isn't fair and blah blah. Apparently we should still die from scratches and shit in a forest, because that's ""natural"".",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507130705 144038986,144039833,2017-10-04 15:25:12,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5APVwhCab4A This song is great and it names the jew",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1507130712 144038986,144039869,2017-10-04 15:25:32,">>144038986 RULE BRITANNIA",,Anonymous,1506906172378.png,rjxInRcLdm3CwJlTskn4+g==,US,,1507130732 144038986,144040097,2017-10-04 15:27:35,">>144039644 Pour vous, mon camarade. https://youtu.be/_WReF2vUC_c",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507130855 144038986,144040280,2017-10-04 15:29:14,">>144038986 Mark Steyn??",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507130954 144038986,144040333,2017-10-04 15:29:35,">>144039291 Look at Liechtenstein to see how a successful semi-absolute modern monarchy works. Watch the interview link I put in the OP. >>144039421 This is very spicy, I like it. >>144039510 Not at all. Those who are born are trained from birth to rule sensibly. They have tremendous responsibility, but are not beholden to re-election. They must act out of public Interest or befall the fate of despondent Kings. >>144039644 Pour le Roi! Est ce que Il-ya beaucoup des Monarchistes en France? Il-ya deja des vielle Seingneurs en Québec que vient de la Roi de France en la 17e siecle.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507130975 144038986,144040426,2017-10-04 15:30:23,">>144039869 BRITANNIA RULES THE WAVES",,Anonymous,UKA.png,zZZO2ece8Os4hqFubuOL4A==,IE,,1507131023 144038986,144040469,2017-10-04 15:30:39,">yes, I am weak and need a mommy and daddy to make all the decisions for me. t. Monacuck",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507131039 144038986,144040677,2017-10-04 15:32:21,">>144040469 t. israeli colony",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1507131141 144038986,144041005,2017-10-04 15:35:32,">>144040469 >Elects 13 corrupt cucks to the Presidency during which time my country has had the same beloved Head of State",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507131332 144038986,144041078,2017-10-04 15:36:09,">>144040333 That's just a shitty example, like libertarians using Hong Kong. Or Singapoore. It's a tax haven. That's why it's so rich. It's wealth has nothing to do with monarchy. Small states or mini states are awful representatives of any government system. Right to rule is earned, it is not given. Once monarchs started adopting memes how God ordained then, monarchies slowly started to collapse or turn into constitutional monarchies. What's what you people and you inability to grasp societal evolution and factors that influence it.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507131369 144038986,144041249,2017-10-04 15:37:30,Much of /pol/ isn't ready for the purple pill. Sad.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1507131450 144038986,144041256,2017-10-04 15:37:33,Oh wait I thought you wrote Luxembourg. Lichtenstein is even worse example.,,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507131453 144038986,144041421,2017-10-04 15:39:01,,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507131541 144038986,144041509,2017-10-04 15:39:43,">>144040469 >implying freedom and monarchy are incompatile",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507131583 144038986,144041788,2017-10-04 15:42:06,">>144041421 No I won't, fuck off, that's not an argument. You can't just evade discussion by linking some shit. That means you either don't understand something or you have no argument so you just prolong it. Learn to argue.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507131726 144038986,144041869,2017-10-04 15:42:49,">>144041509 Real monarchy where monarch actually governs is incompatible with freedom.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507131769 144038986,144042041,2017-10-04 15:44:08,*blocks your path*,,Anonymous,macron.jpg,/WugSUXUGbX4bHxC01DE5g==,IE,,1507131848 144038986,144042145,2017-10-04 15:45:03,">>144041788 >lazy mountain nigger too lazy to read a measly 20 page document",,Anonymous,1504026657710.png,EV1OEE0lT/ko4FbDDrjQKA==,,,1507131903 144038986,144042264,2017-10-04 15:46:16,">>144040469 >hey I'm not cucked like you trusting 1 wise person the fate of the country! >instead I trust 300 million mouthbreathing retards to know what is good for me! haha I'm totally less of a cuck DEMOKEK!",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1507131976 144038986,144042308,2017-10-04 15:46:43,">>144041869 No more so than with any other form of government.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507132003 144038986,144042377,2017-10-04 15:47:15,">>144038986 Europe needs new royal houses and abolished Parliament. Look what happened when Franco gave Spain back to the Bourbons. We shouldn't give Europe back to the Bourbons or Windsor's, but make new ones like pic related.",,Anonymous,images (7).jpg,dbk4z9ZFzn+YtAwyOPKWzg==,US,,1507132035 144038986,144042459,2017-10-04 15:48:00,">>144041788 >>144041869 Here you lazy fuck: >In a democracy, by contrast, the executive is usually a president or prime minister, elected for a specified time (usually four years). He does not pass ownership of the state to his heirs and, in fact, does not own it himself. Instead, presidents are best described as “temporary caretakers or trustees.”8 The state is not owned by a private family, but by the public. Therefore, a democracy can be described as a publicly owned government. Since the president only controls the monopoly of taxation and jurisdiction for a short time, his incentive is to exploit the state and its subjects as much as possible during his time in power; a democratically elected president will have a high time preference. Thus, in a democracy, there is a high incentive for rulers to utilize high taxes to maximize their power while in office.9 To support this theory, Hoppe notes that monarchs did not levy income taxes, which punish productivity; the income tax is a creation of democracy >A monarch, as private owner of the state, tends to favour preserving existing private property law and has little incentive to redistribute income and property. He has little motivation to redistribute wealth through mechanisms such as tariffs, welfare programs, or subsidies to industry because the ultimate effect of any redistribution is to reward nonproductivity. Rewarding nonproductivity only encourages future nonproductivity; therefore, redistribution decreases a state’s capital value. By contrast, a president and elected legislature will increasingly prefer to create positive “public” law in order to gain new constituencies of voters; they do not own the state and therefore have no incentive to maintain its value. Thus, under a democracy, tariffs, welfare programs, and state aid to industry will become prevalent.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507132080 144038986,144042512,2017-10-04 15:48:29,">>144042145 I'm not lazy, but that's not an argument. I made short points and he should respond in his own words in short points (or long points) why he disagrees. You can't just link some shit and call someone names. Also, ''spewing trash'', I noticed you people are absolutely incapable of arguing without insults and buzzwords.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507132109 144038986,144042798,2017-10-04 15:50:53,">>144042512 I linked the document because it really does lay out good arguments, better than I could have. You provided no examples as to why it was a bad example, you just made a categorical statement.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507132253 144038986,144043043,2017-10-04 15:53:11,How do we solve the problem of a bad monarch?,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1507132391 144038986,144043372,2017-10-04 15:56:04,">>144042308 No because you don't get to choose who rules over you. If a president/PM is incompetent, you can replace him. Incompetent, corrupt, degenerate monarch rules until he dies, because that's what monarchy is about. I don't mean to say all monarchies are shittier than all republics/democracies of course, but in general they are simply worse, outside of meme peculiar examples like Lichtenstein. >>144042459 Okay, that's better. >his incentive is to exploit the state and its subjects as much as possible during his time in power But that's monarch's incentive too. Most monarchs acted like that. Difference is that publicly elected officials are usually limited by terms. If taxes are too high, a challenger can rise and offer to lower them, and be elected. Why am I even writing this? This is basic stuff. >Hoppe notes that monarchs did not levy income taxes Mostly because tax systems were incapable of levying even the few taxes they had. Tax efficiency was very low. In France as state power grew they levied more and more taxes. Big difference is that in monarchy you got shit for your taxes besides being somewhat protected. Public projects were sporadic. >tends to favour preserving existing private property law and has little incentive to redistribute Of course, but that also means that entrenched elites are impossible or very hard to displace. That's against meritocracy. >they do not own the state and therefore have no incentive to maintain its value They live in certain state, they are members of certain nation. That's a good enough incentive to not ruin it completely. >Thus, under a democracy, tariffs, welfare programs, and state aid to industry will become prevalent. Ironically that stuff (welfare programs) actually originated in Germany, which was still a monarchy in that time. A real monarchy, where monarch had the real power.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507132564 144038986,144043526,2017-10-04 15:57:14,">>144043043 Arbitration. Constitutional monarchy is the best form of monarchy, since it the constitution essentially acts as a contract between the king and his subjects. If the rules are bad, go somewhere else. If the monarch is bad, subject him to whatever punishment outlined in the constitution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507132634 144038986,144044275,2017-10-04 16:03:56,">>144043526 That's not a true monarchy then, it's just a tyranny (in the Greek sense), because it does not imbue the monarch's person with any specific sacred or inviolable quality. Ultimate arbitration still rests with the will of the people, even if that will is mediated through a constitution.",,Anonymous,1452169001397.jpg,slKKKZhGk6g1zbtmOA/Shw==,DE,,1507133036 144038986,144044413,2017-10-04 16:05:03,">>144043526 >Constitutional monarchy is the best form of monarchy Constitutional monarchy is a transitional system. Which, as middle class grows and society progresses will inevitably result in a power shift to elected legislative body. This literally happened everywhere, where it wasn't interrupted by some form of (short-lived) dictatorship, of either monarch or someone else (like fascist Italy). Again, why are you people so incapable of understanding that government derives from societal, economic and technological factors? There are outliers, but in general this is a rule. Monarchies didn't disappear because of conspiracy to fuck over people and destroy their rights and steal their money via taxes. You can't just magically recreate monarchies today. And this a fucking glaring oversight in your meme ideology, how do places like USA or Latin American states (most of which had no monarchs) get royal families? They just elect some cool dude and because he was so great his successors get to rule in perpetuity? That's just fucking retarded and you know it. Not to mention that ''being taught how to rule so that makes him infallible'' is idiotic. ALL monarchs were taught how to rule, except maybe weird examples like Ottoman sultans in later period (who spent most their time locked up so someone doesn't kill them). Yet you had shitload of bad monarchs, average monarchs, and so on. Problem with monarchy is that very often unless monarch is an exceptional person system decays very quickly.",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507133103 144038986,144044721,2017-10-04 16:07:28,">>144044275 wait what... how is the royal guard supposed to defend the queen with a 5 round mag?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507133248 144038986,144044739,2017-10-04 16:07:42,">>144039291 >Republicanism >modern",,Anonymous,weird ass looking pepe.png,HL7TtgGO41wCkI/flgOrxw==,,,1507133262 144038986,144044872,2017-10-04 16:08:52,">>144039421 DESU Hitler should've just married Ava and declared himself king. Dictatorships are just unstable monarchies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507133332 144038986,144044991,2017-10-04 16:09:54,">>144038986 I pray every day for the death of the Royal family, I got to meet Prince Charlestown years ago when my school performed at a Christmas festival. I came on my hand earlier in the day and didn't clean it until after I shook his hand.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507133394 144038986,144045221,2017-10-04 16:11:54,*stabs your king*,,Anonymous,nothin personel....etruscan.jpg,YYkmKm7oJ5WTJ9Bldn4e7w==,US,,1507133514 144038986,144045223,2017-10-04 16:11:57,">>144040333 Non, le royalisme était assez populaire pendant la IIIème république mais actuellement il est quasi mort. Je garde espoir",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1507133517 144038986,144045304,2017-10-04 16:12:36,">>144045221 WE",,Anonymous,Laguerta-portal.png,4kZmVwBaDQ5JZZE3L+KLzw==,US,,1507133556 144038986,144045610,2017-10-04 16:15:19,">>144038986 Monarchy is a shitty form of government. Why there is such love for it on /pol/ is beyond me. In its pure form there are no checks on power, and power is not earned but inherited. It is the favorite government form of cucks who want to be be trampled on, told what to do in life, and have no control over it.",,Anonymous,,,IM,,1507133719 144038986,144046242,2017-10-04 16:21:06,">>144044991 Irish or just edgy?",,Anonymous,,,ME,,1507134066 144038986,144047192,2017-10-04 16:29:32,">>144044872 >Dictatorships are just unstable monarchies. This x1000.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507134572 144038986,144047654,2017-10-04 16:33:40,">>144038986 I lick the young queens hairy twat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507134820 144038986,144047712,2017-10-04 16:34:07,">>144042041 >*blocks your path* *Kicks you in the nuts and seizes power*",,Anonymous,"Jacques_Louis_David_-_Serment_de_l'armée_fait_à_l'Empereur_après_la_distribution_des_aigles,_5_décembre_1804.jpg",zPUBVlU4c0sfelbo15w18A==,,,1507134847 144038986,144048237,2017-10-04 16:38:29,">>144047712 Third Britbong Empire when? Four hundreth French Monarchy when? United Monarchs of America when? New Russian Czardom when?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507135109 144038986,144048386,2017-10-04 16:39:46,">>144048237 Not soon enough.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507135186 144038986,144048749,2017-10-04 16:42:51,">>144038986 Royalist checking in, nothing but contempt for monarchists and their cucked House of Windsor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507135371 144038986,144049031,2017-10-04 16:45:20,">>144048386 Meh, Putin's happy where he is. It would be wonderful to see though.",,Anonymous,rrrr1.jpg,EaKRAOBQxOz1vzAhgEWPiQ==,,,1507135520 144038986,144049389,2017-10-04 16:48:32,">>144042041 >childless cuck lol He knows that we need monarchy though.",,Anonymous,maco.jpg,TZ30JK2YTiriDOnQUmAoiw==,,,1507135712 144038986,144049398,2017-10-04 16:48:32,"for king and country lads, restoration fucking when?",,Anonymous,Pepe Portugues Wojak Monarquico.png,aMVHtW/ESugTnfY39IIOEA==,PT,,1507135712 144038986,144049684,2017-10-04 16:51:08,">>144039869 >>144040426 >flags",,Anonymous,6EC962A2-8749-45D1-A95A-E452F16EC591.gif,QadLjuM2MwMYwvtSwF0EOw==,GB,,1507135868 144038986,144050079,2017-10-04 16:54:35,">>144049398 Is there a movement to bring back monarchy in Portugal? Do you have a live pretender to the throne? I heard about the terrible regicide at the beginning of the last century.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507136075 144038986,144050864,2017-10-04 17:01:46,">>144038986 >Some literal whos that don't have any physical advantage rule other literal whos >most natural form of human governance Unless my monarch is a Philosopher King he can fuck right off",,Anonymous,Pedro_II.jpg,rwiYj9sTi4xTsMHHP3RZoQ==,BR,,1507136506 144038986,144052075,2017-10-04 17:11:01,">>144044413 Honestly I wouldn't recommend a Monarchy to any nation that has a history of never having one (United States) or one that broke free from the yolk of a authoritarian Monarch (Czech Republic). Ultimately the only way I see a Monarchy functioning is by a Constitutional mandate. And the role of the Monarch while representing the nation and giving advice is asked ultimately their role is to protect the constitution. And in the UK we have the House of Lords who are ""experts"" in their respective field they were hired for. A change I'd make for them is to have them be advisors to the Monarch in order to ensure the bill proposed is even feasible as a law and to act as a double check to ensure there is no violation of the Constitution.",,Anonymous,King-Emperor Edward VII.jpg,kv2TWsd7F66znxu5NM2Xrw==,GB,,1507137061 144038986,144052184,2017-10-04 17:11:59,"God save the queen and the royal family, but republics are much better.",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1507137119 144038986,144052238,2017-10-04 17:12:24,">>144052075 That's not Edward VII fucking hell what's wrong with me?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1507137144 144038986,144054052,2017-10-04 17:27:50,>>144038986,,Anonymous,Olav_V_of_Norway.jpg,jSCE8HjeorrOhNyNPJoMLA==,NO,,1507138070 144038986,144054646,2017-10-04 17:33:16,">>144054052 >>144052075 R E G A L E G A L",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507138396 144038986,144055745,2017-10-04 17:42:33,3rd French Empire when??,,Anonymous,Le-prince-Jean-Christophe-Napoleon-a-Waterloo-le-18-juin-2015.jpg,dFb88j7fXs9B8/Yg4QrWiw==,,,1507138953 144038986,144055963,2017-10-04 17:44:37,">>144038986 WAR IS UNAVOIDABLE, READ THESE THREADS: http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/142367935/ http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/141164141/#q141164141 http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/141360822/#q141360822 http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/141498953/#q141498953 WAR IS UNAVOIDABLE, START PREPPING NOW. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO6WcyMVxwo",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1507139077 144038986,144056906,2017-10-04 17:52:35,">>144049684 Come on dad don't be like that.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507139555 144038986,144057561,2017-10-04 17:58:30,">>144050864 D. Pedro II is the best leader that ever existed and will ever exist, wanting someone on his level is asking WAY too much, the royal family is doing a good job so far, but none of them are as good as the Magnanimous",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1507139910 144038986,144058551,2017-10-04 18:05:50,">>144039052 >There is no need to incant “God save the Queen,” not because God is dead, as has also been reported, but because the Queen is in no need of salvation. The people are. big if true",,Anonymous,1465826978331.jpg,EdNsCgLbDDoepyNjFNYRtQ==,GB,,1507140350 144038986,144059047,2017-10-04 18:09:58,">>144058551 Lord Black is like our based old Grandfather.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507140598 144156418,144156418,2017-10-05 12:38:27,"Daily Reminder that Monarchy is the most natural form of Human governance. This thread is for the discussion of such. Republicans are asked to kindly listen, and then swear fealty. Nazis and Communists are to be extradited to prison colonies immediately. Thread theme: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mursg7TZsE Oath of Fealty to the Queen of Britain and the Commonwealth Realms: >I, (Insert full name), do swear that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors, according to law. So help me God. Interesting Links: Libertarianism and Monarchy: >https://www.mises.org/library/libertarian-case-monarchy Interview with the prince of Liechtenstein: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXBX3e1T64 Address by the King of Spain: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bfHiDctjhk Monarchist Societies, remember to join and donate: >UK: http://www.monarchist.org.uk/ >Canada: http://www.monarchist.ca/ >Australia: https://monarchist.org.au/ >New Zealand: http://monarchy.org.nz/ >France: http://www.allianceroyale.fr/",/MG/ MONARCHISM GENERAL - HITLER BTFO EDITION,Anonymous,BasedWilhelm.png,swylp/+PRxcYh+rv9F4o9A==,CA,,1507207107 144156418,144156492,2017-10-05 12:39:03,"Lord Conrad Black on Monarchy: >No one imagines the Royal Family is composed of brilliant people, though some are quite intelligent, but they are solid, reliable and dedicated. And the British institutions that are headed by people of whom the same can be said are so scarce that, apart from the military, it is a challenge to think of any. >It was not the Queen who ditched Britain’s closest allies and most selfless supporters in the world, the old Commonwealth of Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, to plunge into a Europe that is now in shambles except for Germany and its coteries of satellites. >The monarch did not commit Britain beyond reason to the special relationship with the United States, which ended abruptly when a new American regime decided it had no interest in Britain and sent back the bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office. >Her Britannic Majesty has her ministers to thank for those brainwaves, and they have gone, and she’s still there, and will remain, even unto the third following generation, and beyond. >There is no need to incant “God save the Queen,” not because God is dead, as has also been reported, but because the Queen is in no need of salvation. The people are. >http://nationalpost.com/opinion/conrad-black-the-monarchys-upswing-started-with-a-death-not-a-birth",,Anonymous,HRH.jpg,K39QN6JPOa5BAySg9Z77sg==,CA,,1507207143 144156418,144158163,2017-10-05 12:55:09,"It is no surprise to me that Machiavelli wrote his amoral opus in a republic, rather than in a traditional monarchy.",,Anonymous,Libertarian_Monarchism_Tread_2.png,gphNyPVGRaNtut2+/lmR5w==,,,1507208109 144156418,144158958,2017-10-05 13:03:13,">>144156418 Monarchists are traitors to themselves and their blood. They should be string up like the ""royals"" the worship.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507208593 144156418,144159516,2017-10-05 13:09:26,">>144158958 I have never betrayed my Queen. My ancestors have served my Monarch and her predecessors loyally for time immemorial. The only traitors are the ones who break that ancestral pact.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507208966 144156418,144161895,2017-10-05 13:32:25,Bump for the Crown,,Anonymous,The _Crown.jpg,/7ssYRXoSJoP0/dJ51ZsQw==,CA,,1507210345 144156418,144162368,2017-10-05 13:36:47,">>144156418 But Hitler was a student of history, he referenced history numerous times.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1507210607 144156418,144162533,2017-10-05 13:38:19,"Bumping. Collective sovereignty suffers from a fundamental principal-agent problem. A state that is at war with itself is satanic. Read De Jouvenel, Hoppe, and Moldbug.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507210699 144156418,144163003,2017-10-05 13:42:42,">>144159516 >I have never betrayed my Queen Yes, exactly, by worshipping her you are a traitor to your people. >that ancestral pact. What ancestral pact? That ypull be owned by some inbred? Not wanting to be owned by some random inbred is wrong?",,Anonymous,,,,,1507210962 144156418,144163103,2017-10-05 13:43:41,"Democracy is a fad. We will Triumph.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1507211021 144156418,144163301,2017-10-05 13:45:40,">>144163103 When will Italy bring its King back? >>144163003 Not at all, my people have always respected their monarch, so long as their monarch respected them. When I look at my family tree as far back as 1300, I see Knights, Lords, and other humble servants of the monarch.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507211140 144156418,144163675,2017-10-05 13:48:57,">>144163301 I don't know about the King, but our neo-fascist movements are gaining some momentum. Building relatively impressive underground infrastructure. If fascists can gain power again then why couldn't the King.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1507211337 144156418,144163826,2017-10-05 13:50:19,">>144163675 Im sure Italy has plenty of old bloodlines that would be willing to front a national movement.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507211419 144156418,144164138,2017-10-05 13:53:24,">>144163301 >so long as their monarch respected them. No monarch ever respected the peasants, stop lying to yourself. >When I look at my family tree as far back as 1300, I see Knights, Lords, Yeah, sure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1507211604 144156418,144165130,2017-10-05 14:02:10,">>144164138 >No monarch ever respected the peasants",,Anonymous,20a.jpg,vFX0z+PojorUiznmb+JkIg==,,,1507212130 144156418,144165290,2017-10-05 14:03:44,">>144156418 The most natural form of human government is whatever evolves in a given era. In the present era that means 'democracy', in practice it means rule by an unelected bureaucracy, academia and media.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1507212224 151516989,151516989,2017-11-30 16:47:19,"Monarchism General Edition: Maximilian the first of Mexico This is a thread for the discussion of Monarchism, Culture and Traditionalism. Resources: https://pastebin.com/LyfpyJPt Q/A: Q: Why do you support a dead ideology? A: Ideologies do not die, they are merely abandoned by the ignorant masses. Q: So you support North Korea then? A: No, North Korea is a Communist Dictatorship - and goes against many values of Monarchism such as the strong connections to Tradition and Culture which the North Koreans have replaced with a mindless cult. Q: Wouldn't Hereditary Succession allow madmen to get in power simply by birth? A: No, the Rightful heir would by default be tutored and educated from birth to rule as a proper and efficient leader. In this way a Monarchy allows a much more smoother transition of power and long-term stability than democracy or a dictatorship. Q: So you support tyranny and the loss of people's rights? A: Monarchies still exist today, such as Lichtenstein with as many Freedoms and Rights as the United States. Social Media: Curious about being a Monarchist or our Beliefs? Join our discord. Discord code: dKXSSxF",Monarchism General /MG/,Anonymous,1512059123093.jpg,TpA68g9l4qJwRnGsw4qVtA==,,,1512060439 151516989,151517420,2017-11-30 16:51:23,">>151516989 Bumping for the Frederick the Great",,Anonymous,image.png,wJ95eL07W5XUgrGT5IwjQQ==,,,1512060683 154491425,154491425,2017-12-25 17:30:57,"Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and her Fellow Monarchs have released their annual Christmas Messages. In this thread we loyal monarchists will view them, and appreciate the joy and stability provided by Monarchy. Queen Elizabeth II -- Great Britain and the Commonwealth >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjTBcqpl2kc King Philippe I of Belgium >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks8Nc4_q3Zs King Felipe Vi of Spain >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoWPZAQScsM Royal Family of Sweden >https://youtu.be/RWRyxRK6LQE King Willem-Alexander of the Netherlands >https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=KdUO6-Zlirk GOD SAVE THE MONARCHS! and a very MERRY CHRISTMAS!",/MG/ MONARCHISM GENERAL -- CHRISTMAS TIDINGS EDITION,Anonymous,The Queen.png,f9802HbcP/+Y1TF7gK0etQ==,CA,,1514223057 154491425,154491588,2017-12-25 17:32:48,">>154491425 >see thread >see flag checks out",,Anonymous,1508202578923.jpg,cGVXis/m5rkAm1QlBOz5ug==,,,1514223168 168799689,168799689,2018-04-19 22:21:21,">no parliaments >no kiked democracy >no one-off dictatorships Let's return to the greatest system of government known to all of mankind. >longest-lasting >most efficient >founded upon homogeneity and religious agreement",/mg/ Monarchism General,Anonymous,charlemagne-coronation-by-Pope-Leo-III-800AD-660x350-1464670131.jpg,5xXGq7szGjG/gyly4YzAmw==,US,,1524176481 168799689,168800361,2018-04-19 22:27:53,">>168799689 Unfortunately if you get a bad king you're stuck with him for life... Also keep in mind that the grass is always greener on the other side. The people longing for democracies had pretty good reasons (read: the declaration of independence) and it's likely that no matter what, a monarchy will likely restrict some of your freedoms. Having said that, there is definitely a certain romantic aspect to patrilineal autocracy. In every European language the phrase ""For the King!"" sounds fucking badass.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524176873 168799689,168800803,2018-04-19 22:32:04,Based,,Anonymous,383815.jpg,/w6g5liEGpd7+d10GkRKwQ==,BR,,1524177124 168799689,168802052,2018-04-19 22:45:18,">monarcucks sic semper tyrannis",,Anonymous,Brutus oath.jpg,MGjlqcH/cHWmDhIFLdNqdQ==,PT,,1524177918 168799689,168802331,2018-04-19 22:48:29,">>168800361 The only bad king is a weak king. If he is weak, he will either be replaced or his country will collapse and start over with another. >>168802052 >Rome >Could only function with dictators kicking the senate in the balls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524178109 168799689,168802509,2018-04-19 22:50:29,">>168799689 Monarchy is the worst form of government to ever exist. If you think it's so great why don't you go to England or the KSA or some other monarchist shithole? We don't want you here.",,Anonymous,Princess+Leonor+Spanish+Royal+Queen+Sofia+MJq6WMIfnn_l.jpg,2vilnotPdrpmZlP9hEjYlQ==,,,1524178229 168799689,168802641,2018-04-19 22:51:57,">>168802509 The UK is a (((constitutional monarchy))) The KSA is great are you kidding? The only reason I don't go there is because I'm not an Arab.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524178317 168799689,168802671,2018-04-19 22:52:13,"What's to stop a monarch from going full SJW? There are millions of people in the UK right now actively rooting for a eight-year-old prince to be gay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524178333 168799689,168802680,2018-04-19 22:52:20,">>168802331 there were only a hand full of dictators, it ran on 1 year term consulships for hundreds of years",,Anonymous,muh senate.jpg,19X7UUV+gqaLAVybxJE3Rg==,PT,,1524178340 168799689,168803326,2018-04-19 22:59:13,">>168802671 The UK monarchy didn't advocate for that. They are cucked and kiked by their parliament. If the King/Queen actually had control it would never have gotten to this point in the first place, it would have collapsed and started over long ago. >>168802680 >there were only a hand full of dictators 88+ emperors >it ran on 1 year term consulships for hundreds of years And that gave way didn't it? What happened to Rome after hundreds of years of democracy? They needed an absolute leadership. Unfortunately this absolute leadership had no healthy line of succession. This lead to destruction of its people, destruction of its culture, destruction of its architecture, destruction of its knowledge, dark ages...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524178753 168799689,168803336,2018-04-19 22:59:17,">>168802509 >England >monarchist They may have a monarchy, but in name only. I'm not for kings, but even I can admit that the Royal Family have no real power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524178757 168799689,168803452,2018-04-19 23:00:40,">>168803326 >democracy >Rome When will this meme end? Rome was a REPUBLIC. Extreme differences.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524178840 168799689,168803688,2018-04-19 23:03:08,">>168799689 >Let's return to the greatest system of government known to all of mankind kys",,Anonymous,170427083603-north-korea-kim-dynasty-split-full-169.jpg,Ff0V+nwd/+ta/zE5Uau+MA==,US,,1524178988 168799689,168803702,2018-04-19 23:03:16,">>168803452 >democracy = absolute democracy",,Anonymous,definition.png,33PNgUdf1eTLDRInAgyBDw==,US,,1524178996 168799689,168803758,2018-04-19 23:03:53,">>168803688 Secular communist dictatorship. KYS",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179033 168799689,168803807,2018-04-19 23:04:23,">>168803702 that pic doesn't help your case",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179063 168799689,168804041,2018-04-19 23:07:00,">>168799689 Glorious Monarchs bestowed upon us by the Holy See or none at all.",,Anonymous,1505088100265.png,Y7hWDobrKuU2OyY8mwLLIg==,,,1524179220 168799689,168804069,2018-04-19 23:07:18,What benefits does monarchy have over natsoc or minarchism? Genuinely interested.,,Anonymous,thinking man.jpg,le+jPGVfaKLVR0+mDdboTA==,,,1524179238 168799689,168804116,2018-04-19 23:07:46,">>168803807 >Rome had a category of citizens >Those citizens could vote in representatives >That would suggest they were a representative democracy, ie republic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179266 168799689,168804208,2018-04-19 23:08:57,">>168803758 >m-MY hereditary dictatorship is DIFFERENT 'cause it's got religion on top 'k",,Anonymous,HERP.jpg,SvLyiAG/RyBNDmXNgayKig==,US,,1524179337 168799689,168804263,2018-04-19 23:09:45,">>168799689 While I do romanticize monarchy. My problem is going back to an old system especially after this nihilist phase. I forgot who said it but going back to an old system will not bring back old glory",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179385 168799689,168804419,2018-04-19 23:11:24,">>168802331 So if you're born during the 2-3 generations who experience the collapse you're just shit out of luck?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179484 168799689,168804420,2018-04-19 23:11:24,">>168804116 The Senate wasn't chosen by the people tho. The Senate chose itself from elected people. The people had no direct say in the ""national"" government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179484 168799689,168804479,2018-04-19 23:11:58,">>168799689 Also it's the least gay system. Most Americans are brainwashed into thinking ""Democracy Good!"" Even though it literally almost put us at civil war 2 years ago. The schism is growing wider and we really need a being of Noble kind to lead us.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179518 168799689,168804524,2018-04-19 23:12:30,>>168803758,,Anonymous,1506128057242.png,PpjQ+PPH2c44R3hAkPHMlA==,US,,1524179550 168799689,168804539,2018-04-19 23:12:36,">>168804069 Natsoc is wonderful upon principle but they had no healthy means of succession or ideological enforcement beyond propaganda. I don't see Nazi germany as being able to have survived beyond a few years after Hitler's death. The party was too powerful and constrictive and would have become something like modern China. Minarchism is wonderful but is impossible to implement in our society. It's a principle but not a system of government. A king can choose to be minarchical. A democracy inevitably becomes authoritarian.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179556 168799689,168804875,2018-04-19 23:16:22,">>168804208 Exactly. The Kims are not principled beyond hedonism and a thirst for power. They are also subjects of China. >>168804263 Of course there is no happy trot towards monarchism. It is something that will only happen when we eventually collapse, but it WILL happen and we should be prepared for it. >>168804419 >2-3 generations A truly bad king would not last that long. Democracies survive through false hope and brainwashing. >>168804420 So you're saying ""it's not real democracy""",,Anonymous,louis xvi.png,bkjeEPP+5RWXzBSEX7D2nA==,US,,1524179782 168799689,168804976,2018-04-19 23:17:24,">>168804875 >democracy I'm saying I hate that word and it's misuse, not to mention it's many implications.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179844 168799689,168804999,2018-04-19 23:17:32,">>168804069 >What benefits does monarchy have It's tradition so it must be good.",,Anonymous,Princess+Sofia+Princess+Leonor+Spanish+Royals+TaIkqXreVGxl.jpg,28Hw7DHzkawmf2hH0pWh8A==,,,1524179852 168799689,168805056,2018-04-19 23:18:17,">>168804976 Ok then democracies AND republics fuck things beyond repair >>168804999 Checked",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524179897 168799689,168805200,2018-04-19 23:19:44,">>168804875 >it WILL happen No, it won't. Your fantasy monarchy is never going to happen.",,Anonymous,Princess-Leonor-Infanta-Sofí-2012.jpg,gYl1UujwPMcFsHK+yRx2kA==,,,1524179984 168799689,168805308,2018-04-19 23:21:22,">>168805200 It has happened before and it will happen again.",,Anonymous,slide_3.jpg,ArdBtSolc/gz1mY82BB65g==,US,,1524180082 168799689,168805476,2018-04-19 23:23:12,">>168805056 >fuck things beyond repair desu, the only reason the American republic got fucked was because of kikes. Rome failed because it stopped projecting it's power and lost it's purpose, and like every man who has no purpose, ceases to exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524180192 168799689,168805993,2018-04-19 23:29:17,">>168805476 >desu, the only reason the American republic got fucked was because of kikes. So what's your solution? Democracies/republics never come from nothing. Chaos leads to monarchies and success. If monarchies get subjected to democracy/republics then they eventually fall to kikes. Kikes mislead the population with quick gains and revert everything back to chaos. Rome failed because their shitty counsel didn't do anything about the economy, murdered any ruler who opposed, and opened the doors to kikes and other religions.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524180557 168799689,168806271,2018-04-19 23:32:23,">>168805993 I'm saying if you just have white people, no kikes, it will work. Even fucking communism could work if it was only whites. It'll still be a shit system, but it would work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524180743 168799689,168806545,2018-04-19 23:35:55,">>168805476 >because of traitors fixed it for you, retard",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524180955 168799689,168806755,2018-04-19 23:38:19,">>168806271 But kings don't black their own populations, democracies do. Kings care about the success of their country because that would mean their own success and their children's success. Democracies care about the success of the select elite. They aim to extort their populations and collapse the principles of borders so they have somewhere to escape to after their host is destroyed. The elite are the ones who welcome kikes and never kick them out. Democracies allow them to do so.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524181099 168799689,168806856,2018-04-19 23:39:39,">>168802509 Because England isn't really a monarchy. It just has one. And of course (((you))) don't want people questioning the system there.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524181179 168799689,168807010,2018-04-19 23:41:32,">>168806545 no, kikes. Everything that went wrong in this country could be traced back to kikes. >>168806755 A white democracy could work. Athens worked. It may have been relatively weak, but it worked because it was white.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524181292 168799689,168807186,2018-04-19 23:43:34,">>168799689 I'm down for a semi-constitutional system, it has the advantage on straight monarchy in terms of receptiveness but maintains the stability.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1524181414 168799689,168807193,2018-04-19 23:43:38,">>168807010 Athens was a small (((mercantile))) city state that got cucked with lazy hippies and was eventually raped by Macedonians.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524181418 168799689,168807203,2018-04-19 23:43:47,"The British Royals are actually a German family that was created by Jews and they're legit evil. And there's a lot of ways to Jew a monarchy. Just sayin'.",,Anonymous,2919f9fabe1c1a33c1da99a572117929fd7b2e102d316770cc5403b324b46b85.jpg,GqaJW4ifcd9mN6QPH0OcjA==,US,,1524181427 168799689,168807232,2018-04-19 23:44:07,">>168807193 but did it work?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524181447 168799689,168807406,2018-04-19 23:45:59,">>168807232 Anything can work for a while but it failed miserably didn't it? When was the last time Greece was in any way remotely relevant? Or sovereign for that matter?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524181559 168799689,168807632,2018-04-19 23:48:18,">>168807406 The point is it worked. It was weak and was conquered, but it worked. That's all my point is, with whites it will work, add kikes and it'll fuck up the program. Conquered by other whites might I add.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524181698 168799689,168807685,2018-04-19 23:49:07,">>168802509 England hasn't been a monarchy since the 1600s and on top of that their current royal house has destroyed pretty much every country it has ever ruled.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524181747 168799689,168808143,2018-04-19 23:54:27,">>168807632 I don't understand your point. You don't even need whites in a monarchy. It has worked for EVERY people for the last several thousand years of human history. Don't pretend Imperial China did jack shit or the Maya did jack shit or the Inca did jack shit. Sure whites automatically have better societies and structures but why would they be any worse under a monarchy? It was the monarchies of Europe that conquered the world.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524182067 168799689,168808550,2018-04-19 23:59:12,">>168808143 You're arguing that monarchies are better. As a white person who only cares about white societies, that it doesn't matter the form of government, it will work as long as you have whites. I'm granting you that a monarchy will work for whites, I'm just saying it's not the only way forward. For America, we have no aristocracy to fall back on unless you hand us over back to the British Crown, and FUCK that. My ancestors fought and died so we didn't have to bend the knee to someone who happened to pop out of the right vagina and I'm not about to spit on their legacy and sacrifice.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524182352 168799689,168809020,2018-04-20 00:04:27,">>168808550 >You're arguing that monarchies are better. And you argue that they're worse? >it will work as long as you have whites And democracies are the only types of government that welcome niggers to black us. >I'm just saying it's not the only way forward. Do you seriously still have faith in democracy? Are you not aware our country is set to become a spic majority in only a few years? Do you actually think our government will find it (((constitutional))) to get rid of them? Do you think out population in any way can or will vote to get them out and will be listened to by the establishment? >we have no aristocracy to fall back on We do. The monarchist change is happening as we speak. Remember how we keep voting in Kennedys, Roosevelts, Clintons, and Bushes? We THIRST for a family we can trust. >My ancestors fought and died so we didn't have to bend the knee And yet we always seem to come to that point. Only now we bend the knee to the Jew. Unless we all lived in tribes we will all bend the knee to something, might as well be something that will be on our side.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524182667 168799689,168809481,2018-04-20 00:10:00,">>168809020 You're stuck in this monarchy or democracy dichotomy that just isn't true. There's a number of forms of government besides those two. And what I'm saying is our current government would never do anything and at the end of the day it will come down to the people rejecting it and taking actions into their own hands. I'd say state governments, governors and the like, would be the most likely candidates for starting this process. As for bending the knee, sure we bend it to something, but I'm not about to bend it to a king. We just need to make it explicit when we get out shit back together that all non-whites are excluded from society, Jews in particular.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183000 168799689,168809594,2018-04-20 00:11:22,">>168799689 This nation needs to be reset.",,Anonymous,1200px-Flag_of_Empire_of_Brazil_(1870-889).png,ByqPdAsQHjNn3I8c+3TzEg==,BR,,1524183082 168799689,168809650,2018-04-20 00:11:54,What do yall think of the Counter Revolution? Do they have any legitimacy or are they a waste of time?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183114 168799689,168809711,2018-04-20 00:12:34,">>168808550 >My ancestors fought and died so we didn't have to bend the knee to someone No, they betrayed their king so their merchants wouldn't have to pay a tax on tea to parliament, and they didn't like the idea of helping soldiers who protected them. Don't pretend it was an anti-monarchy thing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524183154 168799689,168809742,2018-04-20 00:12:59,">>168807203 If one has absolute power, and the nation is their private entity, how can one bribe or Jew them?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183179 168799689,168809890,2018-04-20 00:14:32,">>168809711 Sure, taxes played a part, but to claim that being ruled by a king over a thousand miles away, across and ocean, with no say in how they were governed was a much larger reason. They were more pissed because they were being used as a tax cow without having a say in the wider view of things.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183272 168799689,168809933,2018-04-20 00:15:07,">>168809481 >There's a number of forms of government besides those two. In history? That's lasted longer than a couple generations? Boy I'd love to hear it. >I'd say state governments, governors and the like, would be the most likely candidates for starting this process. Don't you understand? It's too complicated and people are too stupid. People are voting less and less. The ones that do get voted for are inevitably the shitty ones. I could only dream we were all smart, sophisticated Aryan individualists but that's not the case. Democracy, voting, is unnatural. >sure we bend it to something, but I'm not about to bend it to a king Soooo you'll bend it for Trump? Or Hillary? Or a Jew? Who on this list of yours is so much better? >when we get out shit back together Not gonna happen under democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183307 168799689,168809939,2018-04-20 00:15:11,">>168808550 Interestingly enough, I actually wrote a short article about this today. The American Revolution was a war against the Parliament, not the crown. While George III was a bit incompetent regarding the colonies, he didnt have any powers to change anything, for better or for worse, anyways. Everything the colonists, and your ancestors, fought against were against the tyrannical actions of the ""elected"" Parliament",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183311 168799689,168809996,2018-04-20 00:15:52,">>168809742 >thinkingface.png",,Anonymous,wormtongue.jpg,cbAHreiSVMeqwXiaErm6xA==,US,,1524183352 168799689,168810005,2018-04-20 00:15:55,">>168809890 >They were more pissed because they were being used as a tax cow By parliament. Not the monarchy. And a 3% levy on tea to cover military protection is far better than what you've ever had under the rebellion.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1524183355 168799689,168810095,2018-04-20 00:16:53,">>168809890 > ruled by a king Courtesy to the War of English Succession, Britain had no king, at least one who could rule. While still holding some powers, the British monarchy after 1668 was just a tad bit more than a ceremonial role. Parliament was supreme and the power was in the hands of a few elite oligarchs, rather than the royal family",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183413 168799689,168810147,2018-04-20 00:17:32,">>168809996 Do you have a legitimate response or not?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183452 168799689,168810280,2018-04-20 00:19:04,">>168809650 Haven't heard of it. Link? >>168809996 >citing a novel by a linguist Why don't you look at the chart showing who expelled Jews the most? >Don't forget, what Grant did was (((unconstitutional)))",,Anonymous,1386232849256.png,bbWSfXmnXCabcolr/ZmoNA==,US,,1524183544 168799689,168810281,2018-04-20 00:19:06,">>168809939 yeah, fair point. >>168809933 >longer than a couple generations nigga you be trollin now. I'm done talking in circles with you. The fact is America isn't going to have a monarchy. Europe could possible go back, but America never can.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183546 168799689,168810390,2018-04-20 00:20:36,">>168810280 Here you go bud: https://www.thecounterrevolution.org/who-we-are They seem alright, havent gotten an email from them in weeks however",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183636 168799689,168810423,2018-04-20 00:20:57,">>168810281 >nigga you be trollin now. What else is there honestly? Communism is undoubtedly shit and leads to unending famine. NatSoc couldn't survive the war and wouldn't have lasted after Hitler.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183657 168799689,168810519,2018-04-20 00:22:00,">>168810423 National Socialism was an ideology that only worked for Germany in their dire case. Had Hitler continued his rate of redistribution and collectivism, however, Germany would have fallen once again",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183720 168799689,168810574,2018-04-20 00:22:34,">>168810390 >Catholic There's your problem. Christianity is dead in the west whether we like it or not. Unless you can convince people to believe in the bible again after the whole flat-earth, turn the cheek shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183754 168799689,168810640,2018-04-20 00:23:16,">>168810519 So what's the alternative? Ancap?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183796 168799689,168810770,2018-04-20 00:24:35,">>168810574 There's a (((reason))) why Christianity is dying in the West, anon Not to mentioned, were Old Testament kings and Christian values not the central authority the kings of Christendom adhered to?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183875 168799689,168810856,2018-04-20 00:25:33,">>168810640 No, monarchy obviously. If not that, then fascism, however the levels of state sociology would disrupt the peace in society for ages",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183933 168799689,168810882,2018-04-20 00:25:50,">>168804539 This",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524183950 168799689,168811344,2018-04-20 00:30:57,">>168810770 Oh sorry, I didn't realize you were another person. I think Christianity would have survived had it not been a written testament. If the king were adhered to as the divine word (and was not able to be challenged by scripture) we'd still be Christians. That was the original advantage of paganism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524184257 168799689,168811602,2018-04-20 00:33:55,">>168811344 However, using religion as a tool is a double edged sword. Christianity is truth and thus must be upheld. Centralizing your nation around a certain heathenry because it works to your benefit mustnt occur",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524184435 168799689,168812582,2018-04-20 00:45:05,">>168811602 Using religion is a necessity. >Centralizing your nation around a certain heathenry because it works to your benefit mustnt occur But that's how most non-Christian monarchies survived. Of course they had some sort of traditional doctrine but the main idea was their word held divine power.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1524185105 168799689,168815716,2018-04-20 01:23:37,"As my family has long been monarchists, I've looked into the subject for years. And I don't have good news for you. Its a grand idea however its is much (tho not completely) like supporting the horse over the motorcar. You can go on and on about the obvious advantages of the former tho you'll it cannot compete with its functional successor. Monarchists are left to maintain whatever royals they seem fittest though the reality is even out of remaining royalty, most of these is purely entitled and not held together through the centuries as the idea of monarchy presupposes. At the same time I also say this: monarchy itself is human and a living thing rather than an -ism. It extends as a function of nature. It wouldnt surprise me if in hundreds of years they would look back to our times as giving birth to kings who's dynasties were ruling over new kingdoms by then >tl;dr monarchy is noble tho we are dealing with real shit these days, famiglia. Conserve your T",,Anonymous,1522353763015.jpg,VxcrOiiAO0GQWtLvZTP+/Q==,US,,1524187417 169924946,169924946,2018-04-30 02:43:18,"MONARCHISM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxertU2shnE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYwcgQfh49k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzAtszsW7WU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9EC3Gy6Nk https://youtu.be/XvbMtUC3t2Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiXgOQ9_-RI",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL - Charlemagne Edition,Anonymous,charlemagne.jpg,dtaGOt2BLiXq2wR25ZbJuA==,,,1525056198 169924946,169928121,2018-04-30 03:39:01,"If you're natsoc or anything of the like, you should recognize that monarchy is natsoc over a multigenerational timescale, with some added internal consistency. Monarchies have lasted millenia. Fascism failed in a generation. Why do you think that is? The one is more consistent and sustainable than the other.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525059541 169924946,169930810,2018-04-30 04:25:31,">>169928121 I think the issue is that modern people are democratic to the bone, and so they need their leader to have a party platform and win in (fair?) elections even when they don't themselves have any power. Natsocs would say >no that's not better than natsoc cause what if the king's son is retarded or evil? checkmate that doesn't happen to mobs",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525062331 169924946,169930946,2018-04-30 04:27:37,bump,,Anonymous,447px-Peter_der-Grosse_1838 (1).jpg,hnyC5yqVOpXWTsMxsuxueQ==,US,,1525062457 169924946,169930991,2018-04-30 04:28:25,,,Anonymous,hith-catherine-the-gret-E.jpg,Oq1Enz9P/3Jep5McwUjIWA==,US,,1525062505 169924946,169931038,2018-04-30 04:29:17,,,Anonymous,mary queen of scots.jpg,+G5BvrKLVVVEqgduqPMXOA==,US,,1525062557 169924946,169931098,2018-04-30 04:30:15,,,Anonymous,Grand-Duchess-Maria-Nikolaevna-the-romanovs-36971752-561-826.jpg,pwm35YFuEF59NZbaJi/2zw==,US,,1525062615 169924946,169931167,2018-04-30 04:31:20,">>169924946 Monarchies are for weak countries. Republic all the way.",,Anonymous,,,IT,,1525062680 169924946,169931196,2018-04-30 04:31:41,">>169924946 HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRR HEY GUIES ME KING NOW BECAUSE ME DAD WAS KING DURRRRRRR I WAS PUD HERE BY GOD MUUUURRRRR HUUUUURRRRRRHHHHH I RUN ECONAMY REUL GUD MANAY PRESSANG SOCUAL REFOARM ISSSSSSUES HUPE I DUN CAUSE A MASSIVE FUCKING WORLD WAR WHEN I DIE OVER WHO GETS TO INHERENT MY FUCKING KINGDOM DUUUUUUURRRRRR HUUUUUUUUURRRRR",,Anonymous,King Charles II of spain.jpg,m6Fyt3Zr5WEMvPVjK71kmQ==,US,,1525062701 169924946,169931334,2018-04-30 04:34:07,">>169931196 >A son should not inherit his father's property >Gib to state so congress can invite muzzies niggers and spics to take it",,Anonymous,Richard_coeur_de_lion.jpg,sFZCX4kEzDMYejmYUNOO8Q==,US,,1525062847 169924946,169931552,2018-04-30 04:38:01,>Thinking democracies can create this,,Anonymous,palace_versailles.png,VHnkMY6lrjnzWQTpVXR/lg==,US,,1525063081 169924946,169931554,2018-04-30 04:38:03,">>169931334 >we should let a literal retard be in charge of the country >mfw royals inbread so fucking much that genetic disorders became associated with them, e.g. hemophilia and Hapsburg jaw >This condition is sometimes colloquially known as lantern jaw (the OED defines lantern jaw differently, as ""long thin jaws, giving a hollow appearance to the cheek"",[4] like an old lantern with concave horn sides), and Habsburg jaw, Habsburg lip or Austrian Lip (as depicted in portraits of Charles V of the House of Habsburg), due to its prevalence in that bloodline.[5] The trait is easily traceable in portraits of Habsburg family members.[6] This has provided tools for people interested in studying genetics and pedigree analysis. Most instances are considered polygenetic.[7] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prognathism#Mandibular_prognathism_(progenism)",,Anonymous,Prognathism3.png,VGmjL6DnNR6s2O8Vh8MFsw==,US,,1525063083 169924946,169931664,2018-04-30 04:40:12,">>169931334 nah man you don't understand. What we really need to do is this: >work out the timeless fundamental principles of materialism from the power dynamic between classes by reading a few books >build a social institution that FIXES it and force the entire society to join >ram this perspective down the throat of every breathing child we can find for at least 12 years >gleichstellung all other media and entertainment >control all politics through nepotism and cash donations >SIT BACK AND WATCH as glorious leader after glorious leader is elected The great part about the last step is that you don't have to feel any guilt or responsibility anymore, cause people are interchangeable (except king's offspring lol amirite), so all we have to do is educate everyone to be a good person and then good people will be elected and do good things. Oops another world war in a century, well those were RIGHT-WINGERS.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525063212 169924946,169931708,2018-04-30 04:41:00,">>169931554 >waaa royals were ugly They fixed that by marrying supermodels >we should let a literal retard be in charge of the country ""Literal retards"" are what kept you from being a shitskin for 4000 years. Democracies and parliaments just open the borders.",,Anonymous,245633.jpg,buKC/9Nwna1IAX/aNK2BBg==,US,,1525063260 169924946,169931831,2018-04-30 04:43:36,">>169931708 Tell me then oh wise one what do we do when we get King Charles II on the throne? why should I have to die in a in a world war because some faggot died and his cousins argued over who got to inherit his kingdom?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525063416 169924946,169932031,2018-04-30 04:47:07,">>169931831 hey smartass, what do we do when we have 3-4 generations of propaganda and retarded normies believing anything they read while government becomes its own class? Why should I have to die in a world war because some faggots believe their voting is not just mob retardation but actually a mystical quest for truth and virtue?",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525063627 169924946,169932091,2018-04-30 04:48:08,">>169931664 The funny thing is it doesn't matter what happens at this point. Religious whites are the only ones having children. Religious whites are the ones who believe in the power of the family dynasty. Religious people will be the only ones to survive and the only government in favor of them would be a monarchy. >>169931831 >what do we do when we get King Charles II on the throne? King Charles is King Charles because parliament put the royal family on welfare. If he had any real power and he turned out to be shit he would be naturally disposed of. > because some faggot died and his cousins argued over who got to inherit his kingdom >thinking WWI was caused by monarchs """"The core of his hatred lies at the defeat of Germany in WW1,"" said Mr Riecker, ""where Hitler blamed the Jews for defeat of the country, the collapse of the monarchy and the ruination of millions""""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525063688 169924946,169932109,2018-04-30 04:48:19,">>169928121 Monarch is better than Liberals, but it was a Monarchy that created the anti-thesis to both Monachy and Fascism, the Liberal USA.",,Anonymous,4449101481_31b4f04eba_z.jpg,wK7YPJBc2XF4C5vasDe9GA==,AU,,1525063699 169924946,169932167,2018-04-30 04:49:18,">>169931196 'Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.' 1 Peter 2:17",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525063758 169924946,169932238,2018-04-30 04:50:24,">>169932109 No the USA was founded by the literal societal trash that the crown did not want to deal with, the weirdest religious puritans and such that were around at the time. They were supported by the Whig liberals from the start and got lucky with Britain's leniency.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525063824 169924946,169932333,2018-04-30 04:52:02,">>169932109 >Monarchy created the liberal USA No, the USA would have been a monarchy. People wanted Washington to be king. Unfortunately the bourgeois ""too-smart-for-kings"" decided it would be better to have a white-male led republic. Then the Jew came.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525063922 169924946,169932491,2018-04-30 04:55:03,">>169932333 The same moronic ""enlightened"" thinking lead to France chopping off the heads of everyone successful and becoming desperate enough to drag in a Corsican guy to be their emperor.",,Anonymous,43759fec858c20b8060d94ac250db42f.jpg,pQw3x9AT16W3aavwi28Gkw==,US,,1525064103 169924946,169932506,2018-04-30 04:55:23,">>169932031 >hey smartass, what do we do when we have 3-4 generations of propaganda and retarded normies believing anything they read >WAAAAAHHHH >THE POLITICAL PENDULUM IS SWINGING IN A DIRECTION I DON'T WANT >IT'S STUCK THERE FOREVER >IT WILL NEVER SWING BACK TOWARD ME >WAAAAAAAHHHHHH >while government becomes its own class? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA BECAUSE THAT DOSEN'T HAPPEN IN A FUCKING MONARCHY RIGHT? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA NO POLITICAL CLASS THERE AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHTHISISWHATMONARCHISTSACTUALLYBELIEVEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA >democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time It's not about having a perfect system you faggot It's about not having a shit system >Why should I have to die in a world war because some faggots believe their voting is not just mob retardation but actually a mystical quest for truth and virtue? >this has happened >>169932091 >If he had any real power and he turned out to be shit he would be naturally disposed of. >we have to have a fucking civil war every time we want to change the head of state as opposed to, I don't fucking know, having an election https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_qpNfXHIU>>169932091 >>thinking WWI was caused by monarchs >""""The core of his hatred lies at the defeat of Germany in WW1,"" said Mr Riecker, ""where Hitler blamed the Jews for defeat of the country, the collapse of the monarchy and the ruination of millions"""" >implying implications I did not imply https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Spanish_Succession",,Anonymous,Costanza's wild days in Bosnia.jpg,uI/1UF0XgnHWgQl4+I04lQ==,US,,1525064123 169924946,169932584,2018-04-30 04:56:37,">>169932506 so this is the power of /leftypol/",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525064197 169924946,169932734,2018-04-30 04:59:20,">>169932506 >we have to have a fucking civil war every time we want to change the head of state >as opposed to, I don't fucking know, having an election Yes elections. We certainly get decent heads of state elected by people so educated and enlightened. We certainly don't just mass-default to the same 3 families like a dynasty anyway.",,Anonymous,535e824069bedd2f579c915b-750-562.jpg,4jhaefnnfqB/hXS7+VhRVw==,US,,1525064360 169924946,169932905,2018-04-30 05:02:41,">>169932109 That Monarchy, the UK, had already been subverted by Cromwell in the 1600s. Original monarchy replaced. Fuck the Cromwell revolution",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525064561 169924946,169932927,2018-04-30 05:03:12,">>169932734 >>169932506 DON'T YOU FEEL SO FUCKING REPRESENTED? HNGGGGGG I FEEEELLL HNGGGGGG SO REPRESENTED UNGUNGUNGUNGUN AAUUUUUUUUU. Thanks obama kun :3",,Anonymous,based black man.jpg,9z+83GBfk2Od2eEe/2wm5w==,US,,1525064592 169924946,169932950,2018-04-30 05:03:43,">>169932584 fuck you nigger I am a Conservative Catholic I voted for Trump You don't know a damn thing about me you faggot >hurr durr he doesn't want to give up his freedom and be a slave to a man just because he inherited the kingdom from his dad Oh, don't think I didn't notice that you didn't respond to a single fucking point I made you dumb motherfucker >>169932734 >ignoring the fact that this family lost and is now so politically untouchable they will never rule again >it would be better if Jeb inherited America instead how is this an argument against democracy and for monarchy",,Anonymous,6b6.jpg,sy4ppn5UjByc0ry3u40TgQ==,US,,1525064623 169924946,169933034,2018-04-30 05:05:09,">>169924946 >Wanting an executive and legislative power with no accountability or limits I mean, you guys are obvioucly retarded but you keep surprising me",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1525064709 169924946,169933052,2018-04-30 05:05:28,">>169932506 >It's about not having a shit system It's not even nearly five hundred years since the great Democracy experiment and it's already falling apart. The Roman Empire was more significant and lasted longer than the Roman Republic for a reason.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525064728 169924946,169933134,2018-04-30 05:06:46,">>169932950 yeah i know but i thought it'd be fun to try and make your spastic ass a little more mad. you have reddit all over you.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525064806 169924946,169933151,2018-04-30 05:07:02,">>169932950 >I am a Conservative Catholic 'Honour all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.' - 1 Peter 2:17",,Anonymous,1445784530918.jpg,FFrUNTZFrWsc8c5uoM/uRA==,AU,,1525064822 169924946,169933202,2018-04-30 05:07:53,">>169932927 >one election didn't go my way >ill just wait for the next one >the person I wanted to be on the throne didn't inherit >better go grab my rifle >civil war didn't end the way I wanted >better start an underground guerilla war for the next 3 decades >>169933052 As long as you're not fed to the lions, crucified, enslaved, or beheaded You know, the kind of stuff that happens in modern absolute monarchies >>169933134 I ain't even mad :3 >>169933151 I have no King but Christ in heaven",,Anonymous,245254564765.png,Mq9U/l8zUiPqcf+keCW2yQ==,US,,1525064873 169924946,169933257,2018-04-30 05:08:55,">>169932950 If the Bush family actually owned America and had a privatized stake in it they would not let it get in the state it's in now. If they sucked they'd be shot. Why is it that every time someone is offshoring their wealth and sucking Jew cock it's in a democracy? >pic related what your democracy gave you",,Anonymous,multicultural-group-of-texas-junior-high-school-students-recite-pledge-cyr12m.jpg,o5uOENqevxtuzhb8z66AFA==,US,,1525064935 169924946,169933356,2018-04-30 05:10:39,">>169933257 see >>169933202 >>one election didn't go my way >>ill just wait for the next one >>the person I wanted to be on the throne didn't inherit >>better go grab my rifle >>civil war didn't end the way I wanted >>better start an underground guerilla war for the next 3 decades why is this better? why do you assume that because the political climate is one way it will only stay that way forever?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525065039 169924946,169933438,2018-04-30 05:11:56,">>169933202 You're still just repeating stale memes about the dark ages of evil and glorifying democracy like a child though. I guess you forgot about the fact that you're a republic supposed to be BOUND by a constitution? Anyway it's good to see that t_d loves to be the eternal conservative and ""wait for the next election"" while their country degenerates. It's been working out great by definition cause the majority is never wrong.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525065116 169924946,169933441,2018-04-30 05:12:03,">>169933202 >one election didn't go my way When was the last time we elected a real leader? Teddy Roosevelt? Over 100 years ago? And he was an ebil fascist wasn't he? Also keep in mind, if Trump was a king with our country his company, he wouldn't cave to Jews we'd have a wall by now. BUT that can't happen unless congress says so right? Unless the Supreme Court finds it (((constitutional))) right?",,Anonymous,download (5).jpg,1sCXF+IDQrsy0Ievkh1AzQ==,US,,1525065123 169924946,169933455,2018-04-30 05:12:20,">private roads >private police >private government >private everything Absolute monarchy is ultimate free market. Absolute monarchs always live in anarcho-capitalism. Prove me wrong.",,Anonymous,75f.png,LklvAe3jm4coSVUocP2SDQ==,UA,,1525065140 169924946,169933494,2018-04-30 05:12:53,">>169933202 >You know, the kind of stuff that happens in modern absolute monarchies >implying they didn't do this in the Roman Republic 'The War of Spartacus, was the last in a series of slave rebellions against the Roman Republic, known collectively as the Servile Wars.' 'Of the survivors, some 6,000 were crucified along the Appian way.' >I have no King but Christ in heaven As a Catholic you also have the Pope so you are obviously pulling shit out your arse, as no Catholic could forget that.",,Anonymous,1524487948256.jpg,Try3wx4RLSCDKmIpbhtjGw==,AU,,1525065173 169924946,169933586,2018-04-30 05:14:47,">>169933356 >why do you assume that because the political climate is one way it will only stay that way forever? What??? I can't hear you over the sound of stampeding spics on our border anon.",,Anonymous,2016 nonwhite vote.png,aNMjM8qmwpB4dKEpKdsRWw==,US,,1525065287 169924946,169933738,2018-04-30 05:17:46,">>169933441 >When was the last time we elected a real leader? Teddy Roosevelt? Over 100 years ago? And he was an ebil fascist wasn't he? HOW THE FUCK WOULD ANY OF THIS BE BETTER IF THEY WERE KINGS INSTEAD OF PRESIDENTS? YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED THAT QUESTION THAT I HAVE ASKED YOU EVERY DAMN TIME >b-b-b-but this wouldn't happen in a monarchy because kings are magic >>169933494 yes they did it in the Roman Republic But when I compare France to Saudi Arabia or North Korea then I see a trend >the pope is my, or anyone's, temporal sovereign the papal states are long gone my dude confirmed for not catholic >>169933586 They assimilate In 3 generations they don't even speak Spanish Just like every other fucking immigrant group",,Anonymous,1374096311162.gif,mwZuSekfjVB+iyWiulTVig==,US,,1525065466 169924946,169933858,2018-04-30 05:19:59,">>169933738 >HOW THE FUCK WOULD ANY OF THIS BE BETTER IF THEY WERE KINGS INSTEAD OF PRESIDENTS? Because they would be allowed to get shit done without 9th circuits and media masturbating all over their paperwork. >They assimilate BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I'm so sorry hombre I'm afraid I canihefushjiojij se habla engles por favor amigo. Undale undale welfaro undale!!!!!!!!",,Anonymous,180429143205-02-migrant-caravan-0429-super-tease.jpg,7sMFJPM2zY74CfD8yRqWng==,US,,1525065599 169924946,169933897,2018-04-30 05:20:47,">>169933738 >But when I compare France to Saudi Arabia or North Korea then I see a trend 'officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea' 'officially the Lao People's Democratic Republic' See the trend, my friend?",,Anonymous,1390762709767.jpg,QaXSpMG+1Sc6b+HG2TwNpw==,AU,,1525065647 169924946,169933901,2018-04-30 05:20:51,">yes ok so democracy is crap but did you know everything non-democratic is evil by definition? >of course immigrants will assimilate, what even is a nation mang? people are interchangeable and spics will just learn to love our great conservative libertarian principles. >i'm just gonna keep spazzing about how evil and retarded kings are so people won't look at what democracies have been up to. >not that it matters cause they're virtuous by my definition anyway, fuck you.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525065651 169924946,169933976,2018-04-30 05:22:12,">>169933738 >yes ok so democracy is crap but did you know everything non-democratic is evil by definition? >of course immigrants will assimilate, what even is a nation mang? people are interchangeable and spics will just learn to love our great conservative libertarian principles. >i'm just gonna keep spazzing about how evil and retarded kings are so people won't look at what democracies have been up to. >not that it matters cause they're virtuous by my definition anyway, fuck you.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525065732 169924946,169934018,2018-04-30 05:22:48,">>169928121 Aristocratic Republics are just as old to be fair. A monarchy however, has an added niche for longevity, due to a generational motive to secure a lasting future for the country. On the contrary if the ruling family becomes to decadent, they may lose sight of doing what is best for their nation. A monarch with an aristocratically controlled authority figure is really the best design. Otto Von Bismarck was the best leader in history, while not being king, he was loyal to the king and monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525065768 169924946,169934129,2018-04-30 05:24:36,">>169933976 Democractic fags have the same rhetoric as Communists. >give example of failed Democratic states (exempli gratia: Cambodia) >it isn't a REAL Democracy",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525065876 169924946,169934175,2018-04-30 05:25:31,"doing god's work anon it's been long since there has been a monarchy thread",,Anonymous,,,,,1525065931 169924946,169934335,2018-04-30 05:28:38,">>169934018 It's really a modern misinterpretation of monarchies that there was essentially no politics among the aristocracies because lineages were all that mattered. It was a social organization that we moderns can't even begin to imagine because we have abandoned all authority in favor of the government. KIngs were stuck in this system and are not comparable to choosing a random family on the streets and making them a dynasty. >>169933976 I feel like it's slightly different, since communists have a system made from magic pixie fairy dust, while democrats relegate every failure to ""corruption"" in some sense. Human nature/frailty, brain-washing, foreigners, religious, etc. It's also ""not real democracy"" but with a focused goal for their hate. But again, we have a cardboard-cutout understanding of aristocracy these days. It's all reduced to pure retardation of a previous age.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525066118 169924946,169934348,2018-04-30 05:28:50,">>169933858 >Because they would be allowed to get shit done without 9th circuits and media masturbating all over their paperwork. or the people They also don't have to give a fuck about the people Which is the reason we're in a fucking republic in the first place AND YOU HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE ISSUE THAT WE NEED A CIVIL WAR EVER TIME WE DON'T LIKE SOMEONE YOU MASSIVE FAGGOT >I'm so sorry hombre I'm afraid I canihefushjiojij se habla engles por favor amigo. Undale undale welfaro undale!!!!!!!! >HUURRRR LATER GENERATIONS OF IMMIGRANTS ARE JUST LIKE THE FIRST GEN DURRR DESPITE ALL EVIDENCE POINTING TOWARD THE CONTRARY I work in education you faggot And ever time I go into an elementary classroom in a shitty part of town it's nothing but little brown children and they all speak perfect fucking English and by the time they get to high school they have all but forgotten Spanish How many Asians have you met that still speak their great grandparents language? None The same principal applies here",,Anonymous,1377366728198.jpg,dkXs7oYYfenlny5/1mIPHQ==,US,,1525066130 169924946,169934366,2018-04-30 05:29:08,">>169933901 >>yes ok so democracy is crap but did you know everything non-democratic is evil by definition? >I said this show me where >>of course immigrants will assimilate, what even is a nation mang? people are interchangeable and spics will just learn to love our great conservative libertarian principles. They do Hispanics who have been in the country longer tend to have more wealth People with more wealth tend to vote more conservative, not including the mega wealthy >>i'm just gonna keep spazzing about how evil and retarded kings are so people won't look at what democracies have been up to. none of my issues have been addressed >>not that it matters cause they're virtuous by my definition anyway, fuck you. democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time >>169934129 you massive faggot communists have a 100% failure rate Where both of us live in two incredibly successful democracies There is no success that a communist can point to",,Anonymous,1380439524277.jpg,TdpOSSaMoY+dKWuK5nKkgA==,US,,1525066148 169924946,169934414,2018-04-30 05:29:57,">>169934366 meant for >>169933976",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525066197 169924946,169934425,2018-04-30 05:30:10,">>169934018 It's really a modern misinterpretation of monarchies that there was essentially no politics among the aristocracies because lineages were all that mattered. It was a social organization that we moderns can't even begin to imagine because we have abandoned all authority in favor of the government. Kings were stuck in this system and are not comparable to choosing a random family on the streets and making them a dynasty. But again, we have a cardboard-cutout understanding of aristocracy these days. It's all reduced to pure retardation of a previous age. >>169934129 I feel like it's slightly different, since communists have a system made from magic pixie fairy dust, while democrats relegate every failure to ""corruption"" in some sense. Human nature/frailty, brain-washing, foreigners, religious, etc. It's also ""not real democracy"" but with a focused goal for their hate.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525066210 169924946,169934444,2018-04-30 05:30:35,">>169933738 >the papal states are long gone my dude Sancta Sedes Government: Absolute Monarchy Pope: Pope Francis Yeah nah, this guy's a bullshit artist.",,Anonymous,1431358384355.png,PH9J5JN2dVSzEbr/X5LVYQ==,AU,,1525066235 169924946,169934485,2018-04-30 05:31:03,">>169934018 >Otto Von Bismarck was the best leader in history >forced welfare state to start in Reich Yea, nah.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1525066263 169924946,169934542,2018-04-30 05:32:00,">>169934444 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateran_Treaty you realize the Vatican has about 600 citizens right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525066320 169924946,169934544,2018-04-30 05:32:02,">>169928121 >Fascism failed in a generation Roman fascism lasted longer than any of your monarchies.",,Anonymous,1523023987918.png,uMmzbDAPDl+fDe6tdQYg2g==,SI,,1525066322 169924946,169934579,2018-04-30 05:32:47,">>169934444 also, >the Holy See is the papal states",,Anonymous,1318614058872.jpg,cH/n9nle07k3/5ToSQtQlg==,US,,1525066367 169924946,169934596,2018-04-30 05:33:08,">>169934348 >They also don't have to give a fuck about the people Uhh, they kinda do. Otherwise they'd get overthrown. >Which is the reason we're in a fucking republic in the first place ""Taxation without representation"". That's literally the sole reason for the American Revolution. And now we're taxed 10 fold AND WE FEEL SO FUCKING REPRESENTED. HANDS UP IN THE AIR YEAAAAAH. >AND YOU HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE ISSUE THAT WE NEED A CIVIL WAR EVER TIME WE DON'T LIKE SOMEONE YOU MASSIVE FAGGOT >Is afraid to die for a cause >Calls me a faggot >Would rather sit comfortably in his home while his daughter gets indoctrinated in all the positions muhammad would want to rape her 7yo vagina",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525066388 169924946,169934686,2018-04-30 05:35:01,">>169934596 >civil wars are no big deal guies lol ok >""Taxation without representation"". That's literally the sole reason for the American Revolution. And now we're taxed 10 fold AND WE FEEL SO FUCKING REPRESENTED. HANDS UP IN THE AIR YEAAAAAH. The monarch lost the support of the people that was my point what are you trying to say? taxation is bad and the king won't do this? why even bring this up",,Anonymous,1376720390932.jpg,DtFn0Go+zlcX5oV6X07c3A==,US,,1525066501 169924946,169934706,2018-04-30 05:35:26,">>169934366 you spastic nigger are you seriously hoping for a conversation now? go back",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525066526 169924946,169934819,2018-04-30 05:37:19,">>169934706 >straw man arugments >doesn't respond to a single point, just says I'm demonizing monarchy >I w-w-won the debate peasant, go back to your shithole democracy",,Anonymous,a19.png,xU5wtHsLAtsQ8rIueYEBHQ==,US,,1525066639 169924946,169934930,2018-04-30 05:39:16,">>169934819 look dude you can either meme and throw around caps lock and churchill quotes, or we can talk. btw nice reaction folder, i meant go back to t_d",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525066756 169924946,169934935,2018-04-30 05:39:22,">>169934686 >civil wars like never happen in democracies guys lol ok >The monarch lost the support of the people that was my point And the people wanted another monarch.",,Anonymous,civil.png,3RQOCmY1ZEBfv1QOb4gMfg==,US,,1525066762 169924946,169935075,2018-04-30 05:41:48,">>169934542 >>169934579 Close enough. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testem_benevolentiae_nostrae 'estem benevolentiae nostrae is a letter written by Pope Leo XIII to Cardinal James Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore"", dated January 22, 1899. In it, the pope addressed a heresy he called Americanism, and expressed his concern that the American Church should guard against American values of liberalism and pluralism undermining the doctrine of the Church.'",,Anonymous,1401021667434.jpg,nHptoQ2M126MnLTOGpZW6g==,AU,,1525066908 169924946,169935381,2018-04-30 05:47:33,">>169934935 >one in 200 years want to compare this frequency to the civil wars in monarchies? >And the people wanted another monarch. that's why we have one right? Oh wait They war didn't go the way you wanted Guess you'll have to start another one Do you see how that system kinda sucks? Woudn't it just be easier to change leaders every couple of years and just get a general consensuses of who gets to lead? Instead of shooting people? >>169934930 >look dude you can either meme and throw around caps lock and churchill quotes, or we can talk. does that mean you'll answer my objections I've posted here? >btw nice reaction folder, t-thanks >i meant go back to t_d I had to google what this was >>169935075 I'm not particularly concerned about the opinion of a European of America But I am aware of Americanism and I do not practice it but that does not mean Pope Francis is my king",,Anonymous,1399330771499.gif,bf4YkSJ+N6yGvltW/tKaNA==,US,,1525067253 169924946,169935543,2018-04-30 05:50:28,">>169924946 >a proper fucking monarchism thread fucking yes, considering every other system has clearly failed, at least we know monarchism works, and none of this constitutional monarchism because fucking shit its basically a retarded form of democracy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525067428 169924946,169935708,2018-04-30 05:53:20,">>169935381 >want to compare this frequency to the civil wars in monarchies? Want to think for one moment about how desperately we've needed one? >My daughter is choking on muhammad's cock after he was invited in by Obama I guess the war didn't go the way you wanted either anon. Do you see how that system kinda sucks? Wouldn't it be easier to have a king slice muhammad's throat and give you a 200-year golden age? But BY GOLLY that offends his constitutional rights doesn't it? BETTER KEEP TAKING MUHAMMAD'S BIT FAT FUCKING COCK UP YOU OWN ASS TOO WHY DON'T YOU? It's the civil and democratic way without having to shoot anybody. :^)",,Anonymous,0df998ebe86bbacf8a92d2e718f0aae0 (1).jpg,J0xtHL0Ivb4uRMdfQEA2aQ==,US,,1525067600 169924946,169935763,2018-04-30 05:54:09,">>169935381 It was fun but I'm going to bed I'm thoroughly unconvinced of your political system the problems out weigh the benefits as opposed to a republic which I still feel the benefits outweigh the problems I can assure you I am not afraid to die for a cause and when you faggots do get around to starting a rebellion against this great republic, I can assure you I shall enlist in the armed forces to fight you",,Anonymous,1380742110485.jpg,4LxUd3MoTUjvFypUO0UJ4A==,US,,1525067649 169924946,169935794,2018-04-30 05:54:58,">>169935381 >But I am aware of Americanism and I do not practice it You think European Democracy was anything like what you want right now? That's American Democracy. Soon 40,000 loyalist refugees arrived from the United States, including 2,000 Black Loyalists, many of whom had fought for the Crown against the American Revolution. To them, the republic they left behind was violent and anarchic, ruled by money and mob rule.[225] Pro-British imperialists repeatedly warned against American-style republicanism and democracy as little more than mob rule.[226] I have better things to do right now. I still don't believe you're a Catholic.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525067698 169924946,169935814,2018-04-30 05:55:23,">>169935381 >does that mean you'll answer my objections I've posted here? it seems obvious to me that you're here to yell and meme",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525067723 169924946,169935949,2018-04-30 05:57:24,">>169935763 We dub thee Sgt of Kekistan! Warrior of the Civic Nationalists! Hero of Pablo and Muhammad! Sleeper of threads and loser of arguments!",,Anonymous,dubbing-ceremony-young-squire-being-awarded-knighthood-noble-lady-52277701.jpg,TOI2SE1GxW5Q8Ntd1jwYag==,US,,1525067844 169924946,169936013,2018-04-30 05:58:29,">>169935708 >Want to think for one moment about how desperately we've needed one? War is an evil which must be avoided >I guess the war didn't go the way you wanted either anon. It did >Do you see how that system kinda sucks? no >Wouldn't it be easier to have a king slice muhammad's throat and give you a 200-year golden age? not particularly, mass murder doesn't seem like an acceptable solution to the problem, but we really haven't had Muslims in a western democracy for very long so we don't know how they will assimilate >But BY GOLLY that offends his constitutional rights doesn't it? It offends his God given rights The constitution simply states what these are It has no power to give them >BETTER KEEP TAKING MUHAMMAD'S BIT FAT FUCKING COCK UP YOU OWN ASS TOO WHY DON'T YOU? It's the civil and democratic way without having to shoot anybody. :^) yeah ok buddy let me know when you figure out who should be King of America",,Anonymous,1384243238969.jpg,vibzQaaLAwUYT9vtj5g/Gg==,US,,1525067909 169924946,169936277,2018-04-30 06:02:58,">>169936013 >War is an evil which must be avoided C U C K U C K >mass murder doesn't seem like an acceptable solution to the problem Awww ok sweetie >It offends his God given rights GOD-given you say? Where does it say GOD in the constitution? Shiva, Muhammad, and Karl Sagen have the exact same right to be here as your evil Christian deity. Don't push your religion on us you EVIL WHITE MALE. >let me know when you figure out who should be King of America Time will decide. The religious whites will out-reproduce and outlive the atheistic city cucks and they will be forced to find a leader. And I wish them well, on GOD's behalf.",,Anonymous,time-100-influential-photos-joe-rosenthal-flag-raising-iwo-jima-35.jpg,oILmStCoh4C5FFW1tOwjZg==,US,,1525068178 169924946,169936344,2018-04-30 06:04:09,">>169928121 The monarchy/fascism distinction is a false one. In a broad sense monarchy is a subset of fascism. Fascism at root takes its historical subject as tradition, and traditional monarchy is just one possible tenant by which tradition can be organized around. Functionally it isn't a contradiction as Italy retained a King under fascism. While an absolute monarch is just an autocrat/dictator.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525068249 169924946,169936449,2018-04-30 06:06:04,">>169936013 >but we really haven't had Muslims in a western democracy for very long so we don't know how they will assimilate Holy fuck I can't believe I missed this line. Take a time out anon.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525068364 169924946,169936567,2018-04-30 06:08:01,">>169935949 Thanks m8 >>169935794 Pic related >>169936277 It is possible to have a democracy where people like you have described lose As evidenced by Trump >Time will decide. The religious whites will out-reproduce and outlive the atheistic city cucks This is exactly why are great republic will survive and thrive",,Anonymous,07D99ED5-434A-48D7-A367-4551AB005200.jpg,+iJ05wb2idwQ3ctDmUVpmw==,US,,1525068481 169924946,169936621,2018-04-30 06:09:00,">>169936013 Heretics and infidels don't have rights other than to convert. If you are a Christian the only logical system of government you could support is monarchy. We don't say Republic of God, but Kingdom. Kingdom is the only form of government spoken of in the Bible even though they knew very well there exist other forms of government.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1525068540 169924946,169936661,2018-04-30 06:09:43,">ctrl + f >no NRx posting Time to try neocameralism mateys.",,Anonymous,1422655641925.jpg,3OibiDiy7qy8R5r9+w2Qtw==,US,,1525068583 169924946,169936690,2018-04-30 06:10:12,">>169936567 >As evidenced by Trump He hasn't even been allowed to secure the fucking border. So NO. >This is exactly why are great republic will survive and thrive Oh this is sad. This is really sad.",,Anonymous,the immortal democracy.jpg,wWWFRIOnZalRnIRwtD2Bmw==,US,,1525068612 169924946,169937264,2018-04-30 06:19:40,bump to keep this thread alive,,Anonymous,reconstruction_of_nefertiti_by_elminino-d9y8wb7.jpg,z+C4FwvpGNqNKaDdpjp76A==,US,,1525069180 169924946,169937269,2018-04-30 06:19:43,">>169936690 >le there’s no politicking in monarchies lol ok See the videos here >>169932506",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525069183 169924946,169937331,2018-04-30 06:20:43,">>169937269 >there’s no politicking in monarchies When did I say that?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525069243 169924946,169937515,2018-04-30 06:23:52,Bump,,Anonymous,,,SE,,1525069432 169924946,169937604,2018-04-30 06:25:28,">>169934544 The Roman patrician class was a divinely ordained class of aristocrats with lineages reaching into mythological and heavenly origins. They also performed the priestly duties of rituals relating to the higher metaphysical realm. Fascism is secular, the two aren't the same at all. Romans had a completely different conception of reality to us, we in the modern world can't really hope to understand it, we've been born into modernity and so have a completely modern outlook. We aren't like them. This is evidenced by how superficial the early American state's attempt to LARP as Republican Rome was, they named Cincinnati, nicked the fasces and threw up some columns and ended it at that, purely surface level.",,Anonymous,1511072838062.jpg,3UtR58ebEb/72rlc1ODr2Q==,AU,,1525069528 169924946,169937610,2018-04-30 06:25:30,">>169931554 >a bad king invalidates monarchy Does a corrupt democrat invalidate democracy?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525069530 169924946,169937655,2018-04-30 06:26:14,,,Anonymous,depositphotos_32723117-stock-photo-statue-of-the-czech-king.jpg,5Y1CdIEjzasmXTcz/1Sq/g==,US,,1525069574 169924946,169937833,2018-04-30 06:29:07,">>169937604 >Fascism is secular, the two aren't the same at all. This >Romans had a completely different conception of reality to us, we in the modern world can't really hope to understand it, we've been born into modernity and so have a completely modern outlook. We aren't like them. pic related man",,Anonymous,2ad780d9de818c788b544e5c9ce249e1--gym-rat-pinterest.jpg,2CXlq1ZFcAqJWuJC64GKwg==,US,,1525069747 169924946,169938224,2018-04-30 06:35:56,">>169937604 That's true. The roman senators had to sacrifice to the goddess Victoria before every senate meeting. Most official buildings were also temples, the treasury was a temple to Jupiter for example. ""Iimperium"" to the romans didn't mean what ""empire"" means to us, it meant more like a mystical, magical force that the leader of Rome was invested with, not ""landmass ruled over by a militaristic government"".",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1525070156 169924946,169938282,2018-04-30 06:36:59,">>169924946 >want to be slaves just kys",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525070219 169924946,169938365,2018-04-30 06:38:32,">>169937604 I think it is a stretch to think that fascism necessarily must be secular by definition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525070312 169924946,169938380,2018-04-30 06:38:39,>>169938282,,Anonymous,o-MCDONALDS-CAHSIER-facebook.jpg,dkEbumeh5in6pG5EYaTWzA==,US,,1525070319 169924946,169939558,2018-04-30 06:59:57,">>169937833 Don't worry anon, we get to live at a time where we can watch a small fraction the breakdown and dissolution of thousands of years of human history as it vanishes into the void, and the incomprehensible horrors that will occur as a result. >>169938224 Which is why it's so daft when civnats try to compare their ideas with Rome, arguing that they were civnat too. >>169938365 I don't know too much about it but I thought fascism was strongly influenced by Nietzschean ideas, one of which being that God was dead. Would it still be ""fascism"" if it was theocratic?",,Anonymous,DWPHPI8W0AARxHu.jpg,w648xxa3WqldC7OkIBMOLg==,AU,,1525071597 169924946,169939758,2018-04-30 07:03:21,">>169924946 Monarchy is the most natural form of government possible. Every ethnic group on Earth lived in a monarchical form of government. From Americas to China all nation were monarchies. Republicanism was only European thing and only few nations ever lived in a republic and it was always considered inferior form of government. And even these republics were aristocratic and it was a laughable notion that a commoner could ever have a say in anything of importance in a republic. But here come Americans who become a superpower and who have a superiority and manifest destiny complex since their founding, so now every nation must be a democratic republic otherwise they live in a straight up tyranny, and tyrannies are bad reeeeee.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1525071801 169924946,169939918,2018-04-30 07:06:15,">>169939558 >Would it still be ""fascism"" if it was theocratic? I believe in a broad polysci sense yes, which can be boiled down to system having as its historical subject be tradition (which in turn is organized around x; be it race, state, religion etc).",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525071975 169924946,169940003,2018-04-30 07:07:45,">>169939918 To clarify, while other ideologies have other historical subjects Marxism has class as its historical subject and Liberalism has the individual as its historical subject.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525072065 169924946,169940444,2018-04-30 07:15:29,"Monarchism is the best form of government, but in some countries the republic is consolidated (as in the USA) in some other countries it is extremely necessary for it to return. Not an absolutist monarchy but monarchy-parliamentarian, I am part of a movement for the return of the monarchy in Brazil, was the best time of my country, the republic is full of failures in Latin America.",,Anonymous,brazilian-monarchy-1650676_960_720.jpg,4M/HwXaSxLEojpTuR7x1aA==,BR,,1525072529 169924946,169941432,2018-04-30 07:27:23,">>169940003 I guess it could take on a transcendent nature, but given that it was a modern phenomenon occurring in the modern world this was impossible at the time. Fascist regimes were secular, political and scientific, they may have had spiritual and religious actors within them but they had to act in a Godless world. Perhaps if the Nazis hadn't been annihilated they would have moved in more traditional directions, it's possible.",,Anonymous,1518179570256.jpg,RdjEgzgRMyHjQB5BBUXWEQ==,AU,,1525073243 169924946,169941643,2018-04-30 07:31:28,">>169924946 >monarchism",,Anonymous,monarchism.png,tfbm9iVbYgRNcqUkTSWh1Q==,NL,,1525073488 169924946,169941741,2018-04-30 07:32:56,">>169940444 trips of truth AVE IMPERIO",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1525073576 169924946,169942005,2018-04-30 07:37:40,">>169941432 I mean Italy still had a monarchy alongside their fascist government and they fared even worse. The Axis lost because of their military decisions and the disparity in resources between them and the allies, not because they were not ""muh traditional"" enough. In fact, being more traditional might actually have hindered them, since it might have led to scenarios like in World War 1 when complete idiots like Cadorna were given command positions in the Italian army just because they were nobles.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525073860 169924946,169942363,2018-04-30 07:43:40,">>169942005 >The Axis lost because of their military decisions and the disparity in resources between them and the allies, not because they were not ""muh traditional"" enough I never said otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525074220 169924946,169942882,2018-04-30 07:50:57,">>169941432 It seems you imagine the NatSoc regime to be far more secular than it actually was. Even in modernist terms the NatSoc regime wasn't at all very scientific. It embraced a kind of race mythology and esotericism, and the regime pushed ""Positive Christianity"" (the fraudulent French translation of Tabletalk misportrays its stance on Christianity). Remember German Idealism etc had really pushed away from empiricism, and those lines of thought had heavily influenced the regime. Race realists, which was the default state of science at the time, both Jew and otherwise, were criticizing the regime exactly because they considered its assertions on race as pseudoscience compared to what was commonly being accepted as (what we would now called race realist) mere science. >in more traditional directions Nonetheless NatSoc took as its historical subject tradition organized around race. So it is just a matter of distinguishing between different kinds of tradition.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525074657 169924946,169942958,2018-04-30 07:52:05,">>169924946 I don't care under what government we live as long as it follows natural principles such as the science behind race. What they are doing now is a crime against nature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbQY4CKqziY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHi-Dg_7QM",,Anonymous,1517112500824.jpg,ZKxpn0T8M5EE654w0vY8og==,,,1525074725 169924946,169943199,2018-04-30 07:55:47,">>169924946 Don't want to be an asshole but many of the royalties in Europe and in the midde east are big on child trafficking and raping children. Perhaps governments are supposed to change -- one small thing we can d is share videos on race realism -- all politics should flow from that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbQY4CKqziY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKHi-Dg_7QM",,Anonymous,1516546417497.jpg,9/SnCQGO9bbl3mWGrS3CWQ==,,,1525074947 169924946,169943403,2018-04-30 07:58:39,">>169924946 >idea of monarchy It is fun only, when it has tradition and history behind it and also is decorative and constitutional. We have a long and good history of nonruling, but respectful emperors, and through history they always were good figures to unite the nation. But when your monarch has absolute and uncontrolled power, then something like creature from my pic may ocassionally become your king, and your country will be fucked up for good. Also without tradition monarchy is sucks, your king will have not respect and won't be sacral unifying figure for your country. So leave this idea, mutts, it is only for countries with at least some history.",,Anonymous,images (2).jpg,D/E3PdM60sw1QubvbRekrg==,JP,,1525075119 169924946,169943697,2018-04-30 08:03:19,">>169942882 Reminds me of what Evola said about the deriving of tradition through the blood as being inadequate, as it ultimately boils down to mere biology. And yet a people in decline may hold on to tradition through maintenance of bloodlines, it can be a way to preserve the last echoes of tradition in the face of dissimulation. That's interesting anyway, I'm not well enough read on what was actually going on within the Nazi minds.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525075399 169924946,169943850,2018-04-30 08:05:33,">>169943403 >something like creature from my pic You mean a fine King who happened to inherit a shit situation, and a bunch of jews mid plot?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525075533 169924946,169945662,2018-04-30 08:32:05,">>169943850 It was not that shitty, he received a good economy from his father, good military and people, who just want some freedom. What did he do with all of this? He fucked up everything(well i don't mind, Portsmouth was a good threaty) with his stubborn absolutism and incompetency, when everything is depend on a single man who describes in his diary days, when his country struggles in a war as hunting histories from his park, then your monarchy is fucked up. I think he is the figure, who not only was in charge of his own family death, but person who crippled his country with his total incompetency and rigid stubbornness.",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1525077125 169924946,169945914,2018-04-30 08:35:53,">>169945662 >he received a good economy from his father Yes, but an outdated and bloated military, and shitty people in almost every class. The reds were the problem. Not the Tsar.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525077353 169924946,169946452,2018-04-30 08:43:19,">>169945662 The two most horrendous ends to monarchy in modern history were the French and the Russians. Had they been succeeded by new divine heirs their deaths could have been forgiven. Instead both are the most bitter points in the history of both nations. One was the end of the old world, the other the end of the new one (that we still live in).",,Anonymous,f.png,JLL4Jl+ievqKo4yGYVM/2Q==,US,,1525077799 169924946,169946943,2018-04-30 08:50:03,">>169946452 Tsar Nicholas was the rightful heir to the throne of Constantinople. The Bolsheviks ended the Roman Imperial line of 2000 years.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525078203 169924946,169947159,2018-04-30 08:52:45,">>169946943 If you really think about it his death was the most disastrous event of the 20th century. Without the Romanovs Russia fell to communism which from there subverted Germany, the US, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Cuba, everything. I'm off to sleep bitterly. goodnight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxcLV58mbOY",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525078365 169924946,169947626,2018-04-30 08:59:24,"Terry Davis is a King , the king we need Are you contributing to mankinds DOWNFALL or resurection??? >are you a lurker, a shill, or a bringer of truth and pills Now is the time to join the fight , the enemy has >paid shills >comped mods >corrupted embedded government >satanic slave sex cults There is an industrialized, organized evil afoot An ancient order of evil video https://youtu.be/k8kY-3b_Aco We have a psychotic, artistic aristocracy called hollywood involved in SEX CULTS, CHILD SEX SLAVERY AND PURE EVIL >allison mack rundown https://youtu.be/4px_vlTWYcI What you have is the shadow cult is trying everything they can to stop Trump and stop the Neo-Renaissance YOU WILL NOT SILENCE TRUTH >mods cannot stop it >shareblue cannot >Rabbi Chaim Kibutzberg cannot stop it THE GREAT AWAKENING IS HERE AND FUCK ALL THE LOW ENERGY/ LOW INTELECT MONKEY-FUCKS OUT THERE aka the deepstate globalists Join the ARMY OF RIGHTEOUSNESS and let's expose these DEVILS >BonusMeme https://youtu.be/kBqetHrRVGM A Digital Prohpecy from the futureScape NOT MONOTIZED NO SHEKKEL BEGGING NO PATREON NO CIANIGGERCOIN >ALL FOR TRUE FREEDOM",,Anonymous,received_10211500859623136.jpg,ordXWwr2Yu4agJVULvm/3A==,US,,1525078764 169924946,169949385,2018-04-30 09:23:32,">>169947159 Sleep tight",,Anonymous,Bruce Nighttime.jpg,lke4yv0MtodXPe2XVbnSGQ==,AU,,1525080212 169924946,169949679,2018-04-30 09:27:37,">>169945662 Nicholas being a bad emperor is a meme. He was a bad commander, but not a bad emperor. He did lose the Russo-Japanese war, and the economy did suffer, but by WW1 economy was already fixed and Russia was on their way to become the world's strongest economy, which would have happened around 1950 or earlier. He saw his rule as he should have, as his God given right. Russian people were not betrayed by a Tsar, but by their nobility who did not understand the plight of the Russian people. This lack of understanding dates back to Peter the Great and Catherine the Great who westernized the nobility, but did not westernize the common folk and thus fundamental difference of thought between nobility and commoners was created. Nicholas' father Alexander III started shifting the nobility back to the way they used to be and how they should be, which Nicholas continued, but this was all cut short with WW1 and the Communist revolution.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1525080457 169924946,169949777,2018-04-30 09:29:05,">>169924946 cuck faggots",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525080545 169924946,169949811,2018-04-30 09:29:33,">>169936567 NAB is trash btw.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525080573 169924946,169950750,2018-04-30 09:40:30,">>169931196 HURRRRRRR HEY GUIES ME PRESIDENT NOW BECAUSE I CAN MANIPULATE PUBLIC OPINION VIA MASS MEDIA THE MOST EFFECTIVELY DURRRRRRRRR I WAS PUD HERE BY NIGGERS MURRRRRRR HURRRRRH I HAVE NO INCENTIVE TO RUN ECONAMY REUL GUD BECAUSE I'M ONLY HEER FOR FOUR YEARS AND DON'T HAVE TO WURRY ABOUT PASSING IT ON TO AN HEIR",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525081230 169924946,169951256,2018-04-30 09:47:13,">>169936013 >but we really haven't had Muslims in a western democracy for very long so we don't know how they will assimilate hint: they form their own ethnic party and push for more muslim immigration",,Anonymous,denk.png,qyPD2XwPAdEayhSWUJx+dQ==,US,,1525081633 170285150,170285150,2018-05-03 06:04:26,"http://archive.is/oTSVh >Then they were left alone for half an hour, as their assassins downed shots of vodka. >Re-entering the room, a guard read out a statement sentencing the family to death. >The faces before him registered blank incomprehension. The family crossed themselves, and a man walked towards the Tsar and shot him at point-blank range in the chest. >Other guards fired, as his body crumpled to the floor. Half drunk, the guards shot clumsily, hitting the Tsaritsa in the left side of her skull. >Next to her, poor lame Alexey, too crippled to move, sat transfixed with terror, his ashen face splattered with his father's blood. >The moans and whimpers from the floor testified to a botched job. But it was the children who suffered most. >None of the Romanov girls died a quick or painless death. Maria was felled by a bullet in the thigh, and lay bleeding until repeated stabbing in the torso snuffed out her life. >Her sisters were eventually finished off with an 8in bayonet, Olga having been shot in the jaw, and Tatiana in the back of the head as she tried to escape. >What should have been a quick, clean execution had turned into an orgy of killing, with only the thick clouds of gunpowder smoke obscuring the full horror of it. >Last of the women to die was Anastasia. A drunken guard lunged at her like an animal, attempting to pierce her chest with his bayonet. >Eventually, the head of the hit squad, Yakov Yurovsky, took his gun to her head. >Alexey alone was still alive, the young heir to the throne. He was wearing an undergarment sewn with jewels, which acted as a flak jacket. Yurovsky fired his Colt into the boy's head, and he slumped against his father. >It had taken a frenzied 20 minutes to kill the Romanovs and their servants. In the panicked moments that followed, Yurovsky's men staggered from the room, choking and coughing. >Shaking and disoriented, one of them vomited as he emerged into the cool night air. It should never come to this again.",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL Bitter Mistakes Edition,Anonymous,8aa5e2c9def8291e56d1116d5e0df0fd.jpg,h4RfD/GTow/Z0nJuymNXaw==,US,,1525327466 170285150,170286644,2018-05-03 06:34:30,">>170285150 Reading about the French and Russian revolutions is painful for the soul. It's even worse if you read some Enlightenment liberals before or after.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525329270 170285150,170286761,2018-05-03 06:36:52,">>170285150 I believe in divine right monarchy and elective monarchy everything else should be thrown into the trash",,Anonymous,,,IQ,,1525329412 170963338,170963338,2018-05-09 03:53:24,"Continued from >>170945094 Which would you choose?",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL,Anonymous,systems.png,peeY7ax/y5Igv4EBlksWSQ==,US,,1525838004 170963338,170963625,2018-05-09 03:58:25,"New Discord discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525838305 170963338,170964922,2018-05-09 04:19:37,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525839577 170963338,170964997,2018-05-09 04:20:45,">>170963338 Monarchism. With me in charge.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525839645 170963338,170965047,2018-05-09 04:21:43,">>170964997 This is the key issue, monarchism is great if you have a just, wise King. Who the fuck is that going to be though?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525839703 170963338,170965106,2018-05-09 04:22:41,Could a monarchy work without a ruler ordained by God?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525839761 170963338,170965154,2018-05-09 04:23:21,Who in this age is possibly worthy? Zionist corruption runs too deep.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525839801 170963338,170965411,2018-05-09 04:27:24,">>170965106 This Monarchy is pointless unless it’s ordained by God",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525840044 170963338,170965593,2018-05-09 04:30:21,">>170963338 >Redpill Me on Monarchism Just Larp as hard as you can while calling everyone more modern than you a larper. Its pretty straight forward. Also read ""we anti-moderns"" to learn why Monarchism is degenerate and should stay dead. https://archive.org/stream/WeAnti-moderns/WeAnti-moderns_djvu.txt",,Anonymous,de_maistre_counterrevolution.jpg,duwn0D0bfv6z1B8fHczJlw==,US,,1525840221 170963338,170965611,2018-05-09 04:30:34,">>170963338 We should all thank monarchy for world war 1 and destruction of Europe and all the shit that came after.",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1525840234 170963338,170965683,2018-05-09 04:31:38,">>170963625 Discord is a massive honeypot run by kikes, use Riot or Mumble server. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN_6AZT92pU",,Anonymous,discord.png,bidf44PQtF3OT1hpg5bQ5A==,US,,1525840298 170963338,170965705,2018-05-09 04:32:02,">>170963338 Bring back the Romanovs",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840322 170963338,170965735,2018-05-09 04:32:30,but what about merchant republics?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840350 170963338,170965805,2018-05-09 04:33:31,">>170965106 That's Fascism, and as I see it, Fascism is a stepping stone to get to Monarchies. It's like a defib, you slap a dying nation with some Fascism and put them on Monarchy for healthy living. As for ""Ordained by God"", you must define what is God's will, is it to serve the people pragmatically and raise people's potential so they may rise to greatness? Is it to create art and make people become full of wonder? To explore God's beautiful universe? All of this? Then would it be best to declare a pragmatic monarch is ordained, so long as they serve the people? If a monarch gives every citizen guns, and citizens are to defend the monarch that serves, and attack the monarch that does not, is it not the will?",,Anonymous,,,,,1525840411 170963338,170965813,2018-05-09 04:33:35,">>170965683 >Riot or Mumble server Are those better? Haven't used them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840415 170963338,170965876,2018-05-09 04:34:34,">>170965813 They're better in that all your posts aren't being recorded by kikes, you can actually encrypt everything and keep it private.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840474 170963338,170965920,2018-05-09 04:35:11,">>170965683 They're only looking out for alt-right servers. Monarchy server should be fine. Although it is true they're stealing data but you can't really escape from that unless you're using a secure private network.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525840511 170963338,170965932,2018-05-09 04:35:19,>>170965735,,Anonymous,2aeefb24693473c4cbe347aa7e8e34bb58a2adef971d7125bda12870e5c6d313.png,5FhTse92S1tNJLEIVrfxlA==,US,,1525840519 170963338,170965996,2018-05-09 04:36:24,">>170965920 >They're only looking out for alt-right servers. >Monarchy server should be fine. lol no, they literally record and sell everyone's data, why do think its ""free""? It says they do this in the ToS, you give them permission by agreeing when you install",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840584 170963338,170966073,2018-05-09 04:37:43,">>170965996 I know that. I was referring to the alt right witchhunt that is going on. They're probably going to dox every single person they can who's ever visited one of their servers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525840663 170963338,170966087,2018-05-09 04:37:55,">>170965996 Well which would you recommend?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840675 170963338,170966144,2018-05-09 04:38:53,">>170965932 I don't think there were many jews in medieval Novgorod",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840733 170963338,170966182,2018-05-09 04:39:28,">>170965593 This is a great essay and De Maistre is based, but this post will be ignored by the nrx goons",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840768 170963338,170966307,2018-05-09 04:41:16,">>170965996 Ok, AussieBro is making a Riot server",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840876 170963338,170966354,2018-05-09 04:41:59,">>170966144 I forgot about Novgorod i was referring to (((Venice)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525840919 170963338,170966760,2018-05-09 04:49:01,">>170966073 Probably true. I would be a little worried that Monarchism servers overlap with NS/Fascists. I know the Natsoc servers I've been on had Catholic Fascists and Monarchists. >>170966307 Riot is 1000x better than discord, you won't regret it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525841341 170963338,170967021,2018-05-09 04:53:36,">>170965047 Me. Aren't you paying attention.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525841616 170963338,170967283,2018-05-09 04:58:10,"Athenian democracy monarchy comes from sandnigger",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1525841890 170963338,170968237,2018-05-09 05:15:44,">>170963338 What if when the next King of England is Crowned he clamps down on the liberal government and anarchy of the immigrants. Would there be enough support for a royalist crusade over England",,Anonymous,Anna Popplewell photo-036.jpg,gq28q559a0lUtAaRBwM+8w==,US,,1525842944 170963338,170968313,2018-05-09 05:17:22,">>170963338 why king and other monarchs should care you ?maybe some not all and not the biggest par",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1525843042 170963338,170968349,2018-05-09 05:17:59,">>170968313 ""part""",,Anonymous,,,LV,,1525843079 170963338,170968432,2018-05-09 05:19:23,">>170966760 Ok after 30 minutes of autism we have a community and general room set up. do you want the room id?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525843163 170963338,170968642,2018-05-09 05:23:11,"Riot Server Room ID thing #monarchygeneral:matrix.org",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525843391 170963338,170968691,2018-05-09 05:24:00,">>170968237 Our monarchy is controlled by (((them))) and are little more than figureheads. Even if one of the Royals was based enough to start a revolution no-one would rally behind him.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525843440 170963338,170968705,2018-05-09 05:24:15,">>170963338 Bring back the Kaiser! I like the division of head of state and head of gouvernment but our current system was mader in 1949 and basicly dictated by the allies. It has outlifed itself. A constitutional monarchy to replace it would be a dream",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1525843455 170963338,170968766,2018-05-09 05:25:08,"Riot Server +monarchy:matrix.org +monarchy:matrix.org +monarchy:matrix.org +monarchy:matrix.org +monarchy:matrix.org Discord discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525843508 170963338,170969536,2018-05-09 05:39:17,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525844357 170963338,170969813,2018-05-09 05:44:43,">>170968705 this. If the weimar republic never existed it would be a better world imo. Germany was better under it's king.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525844683 170963338,170970180,2018-05-09 05:51:37,">>170963338 Monarchy connected with other monarchies through banks = Zionism You call it absolute monarchy, but then banks are still ruling the absolute monarch. Monarchy had good goys, they were so uneducated that 95% of them couldn't even read/write 120 years ago. Of course you look at history and read what those 1% in charge written down and hired slaves to build for them without any credit going to slaves that was 99% of population.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1525845097 170963338,170970249,2018-05-09 05:52:42,">>170969813 Weimar republic and Austria-Hungary had monarchy in power, bunch of Roman Catholics who got financed by monarchy.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1525845162 170963338,170970348,2018-05-09 05:54:32,">>170963338 >>170964997 >>170965735 >>170965932 >>170968237 >USA >Monarchist",,Anonymous,MUTTS.png,5vy4GL9eUErJaCmeDtbRbg==,,,1525845272 170963338,170970541,2018-05-09 05:57:48,">>170970249 They didn't do a good enough job of preventing World War 2, I am also pretty sure they lost a lot of their constitutional power after the first world war. >>170970348 behind every European flagposter is an american or canadian shitposter",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525845468 170963338,170970677,2018-05-09 06:00:26,">>170970541 All those monarchy families stayed in Europe until Socialism came with Hitler, Tito or Stalin, only then they ran away to USA and came back after WW2 or in case of countries who still got Socialism after 1990. Weimar Republic isn't even a country, it's just a fictional name given to system that was basically democratic republic with elections and all the gold of monarchy still in banks. Only with Hitler their gold was stolen by Hitler and sold.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1525845626 170963338,170970739,2018-05-09 06:01:49,">>170964997 No, with ME in charge",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1525845709 170963338,170971645,2018-05-09 06:19:37,"Monarchy is the best form of government, that much has been agreed upon by Plato and Aristotle, among many others. Modern democracies, which are a mix of oligarchy and democracy are already starting to show their cracks. On the other hand, monarchies lasted for more than three thousand years, proving to be the most stable form of government. We, true traditionalists must reject democracy, fascism and any other revolutionary regime. The monarchy is the only way, and I don't mean commoners crowning themselves kings through a sort of Nietzchean power grab. The only legitimate monarchs are members of the dynasties of the past, like the Braganza dynasty, or the Bourbons, or the Hohenzollerns, or the Habsburgs. There are of course plenty more, but my point is that this sort of fake neo-monarchism with commoners crowning themselves Kings is unacceptable in countries where there still exist previously long-reining dynasties.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1525846777 170963338,170972280,2018-05-09 06:31:56,"Does /mg/ support Jacobitism? >>170971645 perfectly well said Czechbro.",,Anonymous,"Pettie_-_Jacobites,_1745.jpg",nmkaKbs80EC8VB0nM51udg==,AU,,1525847516 170963338,170972885,2018-05-09 06:42:30,">>170972280 Thank you, I try. Another point I wanted to mention is that monarchy is hardly a 'relic of the past' as so many look upon it. These dynasties of the past are all still alive, with plenty of capable members. I've heard that a right wing party in Brazil which is gaining lots of traction after the leftist politicians showed their true corrupt colors, is aligning itself with the monarchists in order to make Brazil not a shithole anymore. Interested how that'll turn out. Also, I have no clue what these people support or don't support.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1525848150 170963338,170973375,2018-05-09 06:51:37,">>170964997 See, this is the main problem with monarchists today. Everyone thinks that *they’re* the king, or should be the king. Frankly it’s all just LARPing until someone has the balls to take Washington by storm and declare himself king, ordained by God.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525848697 170963338,170973496,2018-05-09 06:53:38,">>170973375 There will be an American Caesar before there will be an American Augustus. Don't forget that.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1525848818 170963338,170973685,2018-05-09 06:57:27,">>170973496 Hopefully it ends better for the American Caesar than the Roman Caesar",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525849047 170963338,170973952,2018-05-09 07:02:38,">>170973685 Don't get your hopes up. History tends to repeat itself, or that's what they say at least.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1525849358 170963338,170974061,2018-05-09 07:04:55,">>170973496 actually now that I think of it, we’ve already had an american caesar. MacArthur.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525849495 170963338,170974068,2018-05-09 07:05:02,"People in this thread are saying that America will go the way of the Roman Republic, but I think they're going to skip the Empire and go straight to the downfall. America is so divided there is no way anybody is going to be popular enough to become Emperor. It'll just continue to decline. And because it is a democracy, the fall will approach much quicker.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525849502 170963338,170974337,2018-05-09 07:09:34,">>170974068 But that’s where you’re wrong, America IS a republic, not a democracy, no matter how much the media wants it to be. And I think Trump was proof it’s possible, the dude was literally Hitler. All we need is the real deal.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525849774 170963338,170974678,2018-05-09 07:15:27,">>170974061 That's right. Too bad he's dead now. I would severely recommend this book about him, by the way https://www.amazon.com/Douglas-MacArthur-American-Arthur-Herman/dp/0812994884/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1525864467&sr=8-1 It was a great read.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1525850127 170963338,170974777,2018-05-09 07:17:17,">>170963338 does /mg/ support Enlightened Absolutism?",,Anonymous,8dcd197ab883a820426d1c4da295174c.jpg,qJVoHThb66PCkIbkCnWkkQ==,PT,,1525850237 170963338,170974938,2018-05-09 07:20:02,">>170974777 Enlightenment values must not be allowed to creep into our society, through any means. Napoleon is responsible for spreading them throughout Europe, and that was a big mistake.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1525850402 170963338,170975191,2018-05-09 07:24:31,">>170974337 A republic is a form of democracy. The Roman Republic's senatorial system is similar to the American system except with a few differences. While you could argue that a republic is too different from a typical democracy I probably should've been more discerning and said republic instead of democracy. Trump is certainly closest to an ideal leader but I think he's too much of a paleo-boomer to do it.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525850671 170963338,170978601,2018-05-09 08:19:32,Bump,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525853972 170963338,170979089,2018-05-09 08:27:21,">>170965611 The past two centuries saw the global collapse of every worthwhile monarchy and was organized by the Bolsheviks, German communists, and French jews. Monarchism didn't fail, it was deliberately rooted out by the tribe.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525854441 170963338,170979222,2018-05-09 08:29:28,">>170963338 god king but I don't think we will get that till the end of the kali yuga when the cycle resets. Till then we are stuck with (((democracy))",,Anonymous,MOS4beB.jpg,a3jNDNIl4KieEDZSYJbKYA==,US,,1525854568 170963338,170980705,2018-05-09 08:50:51,">>170971645 Well said Do you happen to be a fan of the Koruna Česká party or Black-Yellow Alliance?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525855851 171047074,171047074,2018-05-09 20:02:56,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzAtszsW7WU Discord: discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL,Anonymous,36CDEB9B00000578-3719963-image-a-191_1470150666514.jpg,cT+3Xd+vWFkstutkqGpU1w==,US,,1525896176 171047074,171047720,2018-05-09 20:09:14,">>171047074 could you explain to me why anybody would shill for monarchy? i just don't get it all the monarchies in europe are basically democratic parliamentary systems with a monarch figurehead who has no power and is just there for tradition, right? that's fine and dandy to have a fake monarchy, but the business of having the oldest child of a weird inbred family automatically become the figurehead is weird. why don't you at least vote on the best son/daughter to succeed the throne?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525896554 171047074,171048122,2018-05-09 20:13:20,">>171047720 >explain to me why anybody would shill for monarchy It works and absolute monarchies never advocate for destroying their own country >all the monarchies in europe are basically democratic parliamentary systems with a monarch figurehead who has no power and is just there for tradition, right? Right. they're on welfare > the business of having the oldest child of a weird inbred family automatically become the figurehead is weird That's inheritance. And they don't have to be inbred. >why don't you at least vote on the best son/daughter to succeed the throne? Because every time we get democracy we end up how we are right now.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525896800 171047074,171048464,2018-05-09 20:16:37,">>171048122 okay, if you were a britbong, i'd say fine brah, keep your wacky old system for funsies, i don't care but a us flag? you just agreed that the monarchs remain in europe only as symbolic figureheads of tradition. but in the US we have no tradition of monarchs, instead we have a tradition of kicking out effing monarchs and bitchsmacking the world with democracy...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525896997 171047074,171049100,2018-05-09 20:22:11,">>171048464 >you just agreed that the monarchs remain in europe only as symbolic figureheads of tradition I don't agree that they SHOULD. >in the US we have no tradition of monarchs We'll need one if we want to get out of this mess. Voting certainly doesn't work.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897331 171047074,171049119,2018-05-09 20:22:23,">>171048464 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liechtenstein_constitutional_referendum,_2003 You're right about the US, though.",,Anonymous,,,,,1525897343 171047074,171049473,2018-05-09 20:25:32,">>171049100 meh, still not buying it. anyhow second question: most monarchies, bongland included, have some semi-mystical ceremony where some magic oil or some shit endows the monarch with some divine rite, and that only works if there is a state religion with a priest who gets to do the oil ritual. wouldn’t the us need a state religion to hand out the divine rite?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897532 171047074,171049731,2018-05-09 20:27:59,">>171049473 >wouldn’t the us need a state religion to hand out the divine rite? Yes. Whether you like it or not. Religion is necessary for societal preservation.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897679 171047074,171049819,2018-05-09 20:28:43,">>171047074 Thoughts?",,Anonymous,Democracy_The_God_that_Failed.jpg,yB8vimPv++F/Ee/W4g7Jig==,US,,1525897723 171047074,171049952,2018-05-09 20:29:53,">>171049731 so which religion should be the official us religion then? catholicism is the biggest single sect in the US, but the brits weren’t happy with the pope getting all up in their shite...?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897793 171047074,171049954,2018-05-09 20:29:55,how do u explain tht we would not be allowed to post on this mongolian weaving imageboard if we lived under a monarchy,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897795 171047074,171049993,2018-05-09 20:30:11,">>171049473 >yfw under monarchy the pope blesses the new King and under American Democracy Presidents have to seek the blessing of AIPAC and the NAACP instead",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897811 171047074,171050161,2018-05-09 20:31:47,">>171049952 >so which religion should be the official us religion then? I don't know, I only recognize that monarchism works. Whatever religion ends up working for a population will be the correct religion for the area.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897907 171047074,171050259,2018-05-09 20:32:38,">>171049993 so the line of succession to the “us crown” would be dictated by the catholic pope? srsly?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525897958 171047074,171050329,2018-05-09 20:33:12,Monarchs worked for hundreds of years. Democracy is failing rapidly.,,Anonymous,wilhelm-ii-614690.jpg,iMwbvUyJKoQfnHzzcIOiKQ==,SE,,1525897992 171047074,171050438,2018-05-09 20:34:10,">>171050259 Pick a protestant denomination and make it the official Church of the United States.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525898050 171047074,171050550,2018-05-09 20:35:08,">honering people just because they are born Ultimatw form of cuckoldery",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1525898108 171047074,171050598,2018-05-09 20:35:34,">>171050161 again, the us had the opposite tradition, first freakin amendment. you seriously thing everybody in the us is gonna be fine with the gurrmint telling us “Unitarian (or something else) is the correct religion” ???",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525898134 171047074,171050681,2018-05-09 20:36:22,">>171047074 >An American monarchist Fuck you and your king faggot",,Anonymous,WASPS.jpg,q/BgUcr7iy3DLEq1sPZUyw==,US,,1525898182 171047074,171050805,2018-05-09 20:37:35,">>171049819 Hoppe is required reading for /pol/.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525898255 171047074,171050852,2018-05-09 20:38:06,">>171050598 It'd be better than the continual degradation of Christianity (in terms of doctrine) that has happened in the US since the revolution",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525898286 171047074,171051026,2018-05-09 20:39:48,">>171050598 The US had state churches before, I wouldn't be opposed to it again. Having a Federal level state church would be too hard to pull off.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525898388 171047074,171051303,2018-05-09 20:42:08,">>171050598 If you want to preserve your people I don't think you'd have a choice. Given the experience of democratic societies however, a good monarch would recognize value in low-regulation of speech.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525898528 171047074,171052495,2018-05-09 20:52:58,any of you lads readClaude de Seyssel?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525899178 171047074,171052750,2018-05-09 20:55:28,bumping for Felipe,,Anonymous,Felipe and daughters.webm,uDAM0QOiaDNBFJnJChiDqA==,PT,,1525899328 171047074,171052951,2018-05-09 20:57:20,">>171050598 yfw our religion is unironically Equality but you can't see it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525899440 171047074,171053368,2018-05-09 21:01:18,">>171052951 well yeah, equality, liberty, justice -- you know the roman-god looking statues of women with blindfolds on or holding a torch. those are the closest things to official american ""gods"" but unfortunately for equality, liberty, justice: all of those are pretty much 100% the opposite of ""god likes this one person better than everybody else, therefore they get to rule over you""",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525899678 171047074,171053459,2018-05-09 21:02:15,">>171053368 yfw we get ruled by objectively evil people instead except it's obfuscated by the ""democratic"" system",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525899735 171047074,171053922,2018-05-09 21:06:50,">>171053459 for sure, the system is broken. the wealthy and the corporations have basically turned the democratic system into a racket for supporting the wallstreeters and industrial titans, so they can pay their lobbyists, rake in the bucks, and have ordinary working stiffs bail them out when their bets don't pay off but it doesn't mean we need a monarchy to solve it. we need to stop voting for the cronies. or send them to jail. 0 of those wallstreet motherfuckers went to jail for the great recession; if we voted for somebody outside the broken system, that would be different",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525900010 171047074,171054098,2018-05-09 21:08:30,">>171053922 consider that democratic governments are effectively marketplaces for the purchase of laws. how could it end up any other way?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525900110 171047074,171054607,2018-05-09 21:12:54,">>171054098 i donno about that. american democracy has gone through bad phases, true, and we're in one right now, but there were good moments what about TR? the trustbusters? TR took on the big businesses and tycoons of his era, and won, mostly FDR did a lot to make corporations fall in line with the war effort, and they did. then he went on to start social security and other programs to actually help ordinary americans, at the expense of the elites or, looking outside the US, what about e.g. France? how has their democracy failed? or Switzerland?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525900374 171047074,171054786,2018-05-09 21:14:23,">>171054607 france has gone through like 5 republics at this point. they also have riots demanding communism every other day... switzerland is the one exception.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525900463 171047074,171055103,2018-05-09 21:17:19,">>171047074 Reinhard did nothing wrong.",,Anonymous,Reinhard_arrow_(DVD-CA).jpg,UXxD9beeu8V0PXyOgRY+ww==,US,,1525900639 171047074,171055610,2018-05-09 21:22:02,">>171054786 meh, i lived in france for almost 2 years and it seemed like a perfectly nice and safe place. the only exception were the terrorist attacks in nice and paris, which i don't think the french are to blame for (isis probably). i know /poltards love to be like ""oh no france is terrible! and so is germany! and so is sweden! and so is like everywhere!"" but that's just ignorant shit anyhow this was an interesting convo, now i have some insight into pro-monarchists. i don't agree, but i agree to disagree, and you guys are actually civil (unlike trumpkins or fascists). thanks!",,Anonymous,Annointing-the-Queen.jpg,SR8cfq+7eDWSmm7jQkid5A==,US,,1525900922 171047074,171055711,2018-05-09 21:22:58,Monarchs are the only people with enough power to counter our rich neo-aristocrats.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525900978 171047074,171056341,2018-05-09 21:28:46,">>171055610 if you've time, read these for better insight. http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Mencius%20Moldbug/Open%20Letter.pdf http://cnqzu.com/library/Philosophy/neoreaction/Mencius%20Moldbug/Gentle%20Introduction.pdf",,Anonymous,,,,,1525901326 171047074,171057273,2018-05-09 21:37:43,">>171047720 To aspire to something greater than yourself anon. Divinity manifest in mortal hands. Absolute accountability. We've discarded our gods and replaced it with consumerism. We are worshiping the false idol.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1525901863 171047074,171059519,2018-05-09 21:59:09,">>171052750 No Duarte Pio?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525903149 171047074,171059841,2018-05-09 22:01:58,Brazilian RadTrad Monarchy soon,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1525917653454.jpg,LG9X7BqWcFqbnEnfDjsUXg==,BR,,1525903318 171047074,171060136,2018-05-09 22:04:37,">>171059519 >Duarte Pio meme who doesn't deserve to sit on the throne",,Anonymous,A fraude Miguelista.jpg,elViqFRBrjgacQY+RJeiag==,PT,,1525903477 171047074,171060902,2018-05-09 22:11:38,">>171060136 I don't read Portuguese, but I know the Miguelists rustle a lot of Portubros.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525903898 171047074,171061284,2018-05-09 22:15:03,,,Anonymous,charlesii.jpg,YVHIc85x21rHSrJCI8tL+w==,US,,1525904103 171047074,171061342,2018-05-09 22:15:44,">>171061284 Whiter than Obama",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1525904144 171047074,171062526,2018-05-09 22:26:54,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525904814 171159969,171159969,2018-05-10 17:55:39,"discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL - Glorious Leaders Edition,Anonymous,LeoI.jpg,oG+oX7zaVfrSsZg4BibYQw==,US,,1525974939 171159969,171160685,2018-05-10 18:02:05,"Remember folks, the king is not just a political figure, but a social one. He is to the people what a father is to his kids. A good king will lead his people to not just economic prosperity but he will set an example for the generations to follow, like a father to his sons I used to be anti-monarchist myself, but I truly see the full importance of the subject now, a people need their king like a house needs its breadwinner. Democracy is the equivalent of a single-parent household, a mess with no Gods and no masters, all of which are needed in a human society whether you like it or not.",,Anonymous,αρχείο λήψης.jpg,zUBsxC+r8Ed95XnA79penA==,GR,,1525975325 171159969,171161029,2018-05-10 18:05:17,Not taking part in your homo honeypot m8.,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1525975517 171159969,171161192,2018-05-10 18:06:53,">>171161029 Not a honeypot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525975613 171159969,171161388,2018-05-10 18:08:50,">>171159969 lol these threads are real comfy, you guys should check out the high Tory gang",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525975730 171159969,171161527,2018-05-10 18:10:14,">>171161388 Interesting",,Anonymous,Dby8wgCW0AIh7rJ.jpg,0BkY5o0Bwb4OMMSUPoBtVw==,US,,1525975814 171159969,171162425,2018-05-10 18:17:28,"bump Previous thread btw >>171047074",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525976248 171159969,171163304,2018-05-10 18:24:47,bump agen,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525976687 171159969,171164318,2018-05-10 18:33:41,">>171159969 Oh christ, even the queen has paid shills on /pol now",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1525977221 171159969,171165034,2018-05-10 18:40:12,">>171164318 Ahm noh n Anglo mae'",,Anonymous,,,US,,1525977612 171159969,171166150,2018-05-10 18:50:02,,,Anonymous,terry.png,Pu4JKIcaA8I8l6jw+VqvIQ==,US,,1525978202 171159969,171167101,2018-05-10 18:58:10,Monarchism is the greatest form of government,,Anonymous,1513298310939.jpg,cvJEaT5dMlDCpA+Pp3ywqw==,NL,,1525978690 171159969,171167974,2018-05-10 19:05:25,Threadly reminder that absolutists are crypto-republicans,,Anonymous,,,GB,,1525979125 171159969,171169149,2018-05-10 19:15:08,">>171160685 Based Greek.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1525979708 171159969,171169596,2018-05-10 19:18:50,">>171167974 Absolutist is a quiet fucked up term. If you're talking about the abuses of Louis XIV, then you're probably correct. Just remember that before liberalism there was something, I prefer to call it Traditionalism. It was quiet all right. A King without power is no King at all. The right to rule is the right of the King, even if the King decides to delegate his power to whoever he sees fit for the mission. The King is still the one who has the right to rule his subjects.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1525979930 171159969,171170800,2018-05-10 19:29:12,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1525980552 171159969,171171159,2018-05-10 19:32:12,">>171159969 Daily reminder that discord sells your data to leftist scum so they can doc you and ruin your life",,Anonymous,,,MX,,1525980732 171189453,171189453,2018-05-10 22:38:33,"discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE discord gg/fCwt8tE",/mg/ Monarchy General - Good Afternoon,Anonymous,2255d836212a33a962c97794b9a3f404.jpg,l89ODEOQvq6Z06T9wpNYAQ==,US,,1525991913 171866234,171866234,2018-05-16 19:03:38,"FAQ Q: What is Monarchy? A: A Monarchy is a state or nation where the supreme power is held by the nation's monarch or ruler. It's an feudalistic version of tribalism, where instead of a single chieftain ruling over a small tribe, a monarch is in charge of a vast kingdom and its people. Q: Why is Monarchy the best system? A: It works. Absolute monarchies don't get corrupted. Kings have a capitalistic incentive to care for their country. Democracy has historically not lasted, it is easily corrupted and the voter cares more for themselves than their country. Q: How will Monarchy be achieved? A: There are many ways Monarchy can be achieved. The end result of democracy is conflict, Monarchy will be a solution to solve the future crisis. Isolationism, Segregation, Secession and Populism are many ways we can escape the democratic system before it gets worse. Restoration is also another way. There are many descendants of royals still alive today who have had their status and property removed from them. Q: Is there a Discord? A: Yes, here it is: hCcDcMz SHIT TO READ Literary work from /his/ https://mega.nz/#F!dlZlDbqL!TXG5bGvWufONkrQAL7b7jA Gilgamesh https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/NRUTVm6ZhlKhuLUJiV0EMwP1RzD8YcWzShoETQ3DN3aPcGWE.pdf DOCUMENTARIES https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhNO-dJNhWQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItwGz43a_ak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRSTy9ir6zs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb1CcvqJ0gc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZNigEanrUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCqwN88_BAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUA_1WVM8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssd9b36S8A",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL - The Answer was There All Along,Anonymous,"Coronation_of_Nicholas_II_by_L.Tuxen_(1898,_Hermitage).jpg",xIllSE6d5tkmRBm0u1rhgA==,US,,1526497418 171866234,171866276,2018-05-16 19:04:02,Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/qF8MQsxG,,Anonymous,,,US,,1526497442 171866234,171867605,2018-05-16 19:17:46,">>171866234 Bump",,Anonymous,,,US,,1526498266 171866234,171868849,2018-05-16 19:30:08,You're going to struggle given that the creature is getting a royal wedding soon.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1526499008 171866234,171868981,2018-05-16 19:31:15,">>171868849 But you are right to support a monarch, as they are the only people who can resist and check the influence of the wealthy and the corporations. If only the few who are around would exercise their power and influence a bit more.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1526499075 171866234,171869215,2018-05-16 19:33:28,">>171868981 >If only the few who are around would exercise their power and influence a bit more. They either can't and/or are left in the dark by their governments and given welfare checks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1526499208 172085283,172085283,2018-05-18 15:34:18,"Q: What is Monarchy? A: A Monarchy is a state or nation where the supreme power is held by the nation's monarch or ruler. It's an feudalistic version of tribalism, where instead of a single chieftain ruling over a small tribe, a monarch is in charge of a vast kingdom and its people. Q: Why is Monarchy the best system? A: It works. Absolute monarchies don't get corrupted. Kings have a capitalistic incentive to care for their country. Democracy has historically not lasted, it is easily corrupted and the voter cares more for themselves than their country. Q: How will Monarchy be achieved? A: There are many ways Monarchy can be achieved. The end result of democracy is conflict, Monarchy will be a solution to solve the future crisis. Isolationism, Segregation, Secession and Populism are many ways we can escape the democratic system before it gets worse. Restoration is also another way. There are many descendants of royals still alive today who have had their status and property removed from them. Q: Is there a Discord? A: Yes, here it is: hCcDcMz IMPORTANT SHIT Literary work from /his/ https://mega.nz/#F!dlZlDbqL!TXG5bGvWufONkrQAL7b7jA Gilgamesh https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/NRUTVm6ZhlKhuLUJiV0EMwP1RzD8YcWzShoETQ3DN3aPcGWE.pdf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhNO-dJNhWQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItwGz43a_ak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0K0BAJ1hY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRSTy9ir6zs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb1CcvqJ0gc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZNigEanrUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCqwN88_BAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUA_1WVM8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssd9b36S8A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbZVrWUlJ0A",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL - You-don't-get-false-flags-under-a-king-edition,Anonymous,KAISER_WILHELM.jpg,vVbF52CFGPo19fHMx+7EeQ==,US,,1526657658 173755928,173755928,2018-06-01 22:30:12,"IMPORTANT SHIT TO READ Literary work from /his/ https://mega.nz/#F!dlZlDbqL!TXG5bGvWufONkrQAL7b7jA Gilgamesh https://d3jc3ahdjad7x7.cloudfront.net/NRUTVm6ZhlKhuLUJiV0EMwP1RzD8YcWzShoETQ3DN3aPcGWE.pdf DOCUMENTARIES Alexander The Great - National Geographic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhNO-dJNhWQ Roman History 01 - The Mythic Kings 753-509 BC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItwGz43a_ak Kingdoms of Africa - West Africa - Ep 4/8 HD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je0K0BAJ1hY The Secrets Of The Incas - Part 1 of 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRSTy9ir6zs The First Emperor of China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb1CcvqJ0gc THE SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZNigEanrUo Louis XIV - The Sun King https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCqwN88_BAY The Romanovs. The History of the Russian Dynasty - Episode 1. Documentary Film. Babich-Design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USUA_1WVM8I The Spanish Inquisition | History Documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ssd9b36S8A Germania: The Battle Against Rome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbZVrWUlJ0A Discord: hCcDcMz",/mg/ MONARCHY GENERAL - Markel Will Not Replace US,Anonymous,cf61585.jpg,j85mcMWsHs8eB3ogGz7stQ==,US,,1527892212 173755928,173756562,2018-06-01 22:38:10,">>173755928 Is that one prince really becoming a Jew?? Will the UK have a Jew king?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1527892690 173755928,173756922,2018-06-01 22:41:45,">>173756562 Wut mean?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1527892905