thread_id,id,timestamp,body,subject,author,image_file,image_md5,country_code,country_name,unix_timestamp 26245850,26245850,2014-02-06 10:02:54,"Why the backlash to Anarcho-Capitalism /pol/? Everyone seems to either love it or hate it. >The irony: that the most hostile reactions are elicited by the only group that is inherently non-aggressive by definition. Also AnCap General.",AnCap General,Anonymous,Ancap_flag.png,62QyIWBLETqLeMTTGhDPlQ==,RP,,1391680974 26245850,26245994,2014-02-06 10:09:34,"Well it's two things reviled by various groups, unleashed capitalism and societal freedom. Meaning both the left and the right shit on you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391681374 26245850,26246036,2014-02-06 10:11:22,"My main gripe is their denial of the very existence of left anarchism. Fuck you guys, we invented anarchism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391681482 26245850,26246073,2014-02-06 10:12:41,what do ancap fags listen to? as a proud statist i am musing to bach.,,Anonymous,,,,,1391681561 26245850,26246104,2014-02-06 10:13:53,">inherently >by definition REDUNDANCY. THE CONCEPT OF AN ANARCHIC SOCIETY IS RIDICULOUS. THERE IS NO NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY; IF YOU WERE INTELLIGENT YOU WOULD HAVE REALIZED IT.",,« 零 »,,,NZ,,1391681633 26245850,26246193,2014-02-06 10:18:18,">>26246104 IF YOU WERE INTELLIGENT YOU WOULD REALIZE AYN RAND WAS WRONG. ALSO I AM WONDERING IF YOU HAVE FOUND A YOUNG ARYAN GF THAT LOVES AND ADORES YOU FOR YOUR MIND, SPIRIT AND BODY OR SOMETHIGN LIKE THAT THANKYOU.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391681898 26245850,26246214,2014-02-06 10:19:18,">>26246036 Invented or discovered?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391681958 26245850,26246314,2014-02-06 10:24:24,"I'm fine with living under and ancap system but the problem with ancap's in general is they're idealistic rubes. They believe their system is going to usher in a utopia instead of despotism, and a ruralization of society. Still haven't heard a solid ancap argument against how to prevent the rise of a despot. It is completely natural because the need to organize into power structures is rational.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391682264 26245850,26246415,2014-02-06 10:29:34,">>26246193 >IF YOU WERE INTELLIGENT YOU WOULD REALIZE AYN RAND WAS WRONG. If he is an ancap he probably already has. The two main ancap names, David Friedman and Murray Rothbard, both think Rand was wrong. Here is an example: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Libertarian/My_Posts/Ought_From_Is.html Remember Rand wasn't an anarchist, and said she hated them even more than statists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391682574 26245850,26246433,2014-02-06 10:30:41,">>26246314 >Still haven't heard a solid ancap argument against how to prevent the rise of a despot. You may be interested in reading the chapter called ""the stability problem"": http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf",,Anonymous,,,,,1391682641 26245850,26246455,2014-02-06 10:31:51,">>26245850 >Why the backlash to Anarcho-Capitalism /pol/? Everyone seems to either love it or hate it. Because it's retarded. >The irony: that the most hostile reactions are elicited by the only group that is inherently non-aggressive by definition. Since when was narcocapitalists persecuted?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391682711 26245850,26246477,2014-02-06 10:33:15,">why the backlash Because I think Capitalism is inherently regressive to mankind as a species and turns us into rabid beasts of men.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391682795 26245850,26246548,2014-02-06 10:36:30,">>26245850 >Why the backlash to Anarcho-Capitalism /pol/? Because Market Economics thrives by keeping resources scarce and people needy, so I can't abide by it",,Anonymous,,,,,1391682990 26245850,26246563,2014-02-06 10:37:16,,,Anonymous,1390524091720.png,biVNSHWDwktlZL7HDJTfeg==,,,1391683036 26245850,26246583,2014-02-06 10:38:04,">>26246548 >Because Market Economics thrives by keeping resources scarce and people needy, so I can't abide by it Money is a way to measure scarcity. Abolishing rulers and measuring tapes won't make distances go away.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683084 26245850,26246688,2014-02-06 10:42:32,">>26246583 When the manufacturer makes a ruler that can't measure worth shit, you find a better ruler",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683352 26245850,26246745,2014-02-06 10:44:52,">>26246433 I just read it, it's the kind of nonsense i'd expect. It is filled with assumptions and struggles to even make a solid point, in the he basically all but cedes the point and says he remains optimistic. If you know anything about history, you know it is foolish to be optimistic in the midst of a power vacuum. It is always better to have a centralized regional power, the more despots you have the more power mongers you have sniping at each other for bits and scraps.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683492 26245850,26246754,2014-02-06 10:45:16,">>26246688 From where? No single person has the capacity to create a modern pencil or a ruler, you need a decentrialized price system to do it efficiently: http://www.econlib.org/library/Essays/rdPncl1.html",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683516 26245850,26246803,2014-02-06 10:46:55,">>26245850 >>>>>>>>muh money tell me anarcho capitalist how will currency be implemented if there is no force behind it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683615 26245850,26246840,2014-02-06 10:48:45,">>26246563 It depends how you define property rights. Ancaps are unlikely to believe that the United States is the property of the US government (they'd say it belongs to the landowners and that government is a service), and there isn't any way to derive it one way or another. And the historical precedent of the founders is more in their favor than yours. Later ones (e.g. Roosevault) is more in your favor than theirs. But that's assuming historical precedent is a convincing way to decide what rights people have anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683725 26245850,26246860,2014-02-06 10:49:56,">>26246745 >It is filled with assumption Expand if you like, might rebut.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683796 26245850,26246906,2014-02-06 10:52:08,">>26246803 There are plenty of historical examples of privately issued money. Most ancaps are associated with wanting gold-backed (or bitcoin-backed) money provided on the market. The Friedman-types think fractional reserve private money would work.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391683928 26245850,26246954,2014-02-06 10:54:15,">>26246906 yes but without a union of traders baking up a currency that currency as no value. and more, if it is anarchy one can always refuse any kind of currency due to the fact that there is nothing enforcing the acceptance of said currency.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684055 26245850,26247002,2014-02-06 10:56:30,">>26246954 Right, all the main value of money comes from other people accepting it as payment. But you don't need government to force people to accept them. Gold has value without people being forced to accept it as payment. Bitcoin rose rapidly in acceptance long before any governments noticed it. It is the interest of merchants to accept anything they can trade for other goods - so long as transaction costs are not too large.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684190 26245850,26247029,2014-02-06 10:57:42,">>26246954 What are you even talking about? Everyone knows gold has value, and it isn't issued by central banks. There aren't any ""trading unions"" that get together and decide ""well, we're going to set the price of gold at 4300 loaves of bread today"". The market does that shit all on its own. >yfw the only people who argue against ancap are socialists and communists who don't understand the most basic laws of economics",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684262 26245850,26247062,2014-02-06 10:58:53,Daily reminder that honest AnCaps and honest Communists are approaching the same future from two different perspectives.,,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391684333 26245850,26247078,2014-02-06 10:59:19,">>26247002 >>26247029 I wouldn't accept gold as payment for my products. Gold is not valuable for me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684359 26245850,26247109,2014-02-06 11:01:01,">>26247062 Lolno. Communists and Anarcho-communists, maybe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684461 26245850,26247118,2014-02-06 11:01:15,">>26246803 what is bitcoin",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684475 26245850,26247140,2014-02-06 11:02:33,">>26247078 >I wouldn't accept gold as payment for my products. Gold is not valuable for me. Which is against your interest, assuming you were acting in a market which allows you to trade it for other goods - food, clothes, whatever you wanted. Remember we are interested in the general case rather than your specific preference.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684553 26245850,26247148,2014-02-06 11:02:44,">>26247078 You would if you knew that everyone else would take it for their goods, just like you do with fiat currency today. Seriously how do you think currency works?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684564 26245850,26247189,2014-02-06 11:05:18,">>26247148 it works because idiots believe in it. mass accepted delusion. >>26247118 same as gold as no real value >>26247140 my interest is getting the most value for my work and gold as no value in my perspective so I would never accept gold as payment",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684718 26245850,26247242,2014-02-06 11:07:28,">>26247189 >my interest is getting the most value for my work and gold as no value in my perspective so I would never accept gold as payment But what does have value? If you valued goats, and you could trade 1 ounce of gold for a goat, then (ignoring transaction costs) the value of 1 ounce of gold and a goat are equivalent to you from the perspective of an economist. Hence if you worked for 1 goat an hour rather than 1.5 ounces of gold an hour, you would be acting against your interest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684848 26245850,26247266,2014-02-06 11:08:37,">>26247109 We're all after full human freedom in a land without rulers where people can experiment with all forms of voluntary social formations, are we not? We all think that no humans should rule over others, and so on. The anarcho part of anarcho-capitalism implies a dedication to equality, even if empirical beliefs about how stable equality will form are different. In short, it seem to me that the goals, a prosperous freedom, are identical. The means of getting there may be different, but this is largely a function of different beliefs that will no doubt be tested empirically once the revolution is under way. Since we all believe in human freedom, we will not impose our systems on others, so all these approaching will no doubt be experimented with simultaneously.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391684917 26245850,26247268,2014-02-06 11:08:45,">>26245850 >Why the backlash to Anarcho-Capitalism /pol/? Everyone seems to either love it or hate it. Because it's for children and stupid people",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684925 26245850,26247283,2014-02-06 11:09:35,">>26247242 what if i only accepted in payment something that toke as long to make as did my products.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391684975 26245850,26247354,2014-02-06 11:12:29,">>26247189 >it works because idiots believe in it. mass accepted delusion. Fiat currencies, maybe. >same as gold as no real value The value lies in it's ease of transport, and all of it's other properties that are superior to physical resources >my interest is getting the most value for my work and gold as no value in my perspective so I would never accept gold as payment Then you will never be hired, or sell product.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685149 26245850,26247387,2014-02-06 11:13:43,">>26247283 Not even the guy, but what the fuck are you even talking about?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685223 26245850,26247416,2014-02-06 11:15:08,">>26247266 >Since we all believe in human freedom, we will not impose our systems on others This is the main problem I have with communism, Communism promotes the forced rebellion of outside nations.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685308 26245850,26247421,2014-02-06 11:15:22,">>26247109 Under anarcho-capitalism, the ""capitalists"" won't be able to force people to work for them, so capital will tend to accumulate with voluntary organizations of workers, so you end up with a free market communism. There is little difference. I suppose their might be an issue with inheritance: do anarcho-capitalists believe that large and unequal inherited wealth is consistent with anarchism? If absentee ownership is impossible, does inheritance matter?",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391685322 26245850,26247432,2014-02-06 11:15:43,">>26247266 >implying anarchism means ""equality"" How could you buy into such a nebulous notion?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685343 26245850,26247436,2014-02-06 11:15:53,>>26245850,,Anonymous,ancap jews.jpg,U1LFQfh/KN2kV12LczWCSQ==,IL,,1391685353 26245850,26247463,2014-02-06 11:16:43,">>26247354 all currencies are a mass accepted delusion even gold. the value of something is about the value for you. and although in this time and age gold is accepted as currency it really doesn't have any value. my question was in a anarchocapitalist society how would a currency be enforced? >>26247387 I'm talking about a time based currency. time is the same for every one so it is the only fair support for any kind of currency",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685403 26245850,26247474,2014-02-06 11:17:11,">>26247421 >do anarcho-capitalists believe that large and unequal inherited wealth is consistent with anarchism? Well, if someone wants to leave their wealth to their kids, you don't really have any right to stop them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685431 26245850,26247490,2014-02-06 11:17:56,">in my amazing fantasy nobody will try to create a monopoly on violence, pseudo-states, usury, various immoral or current illegal shit to fuck over others for their own profit >everyone will adhere to this great non-violence pact and readily accept a privately owned court that works on getting paid",,Anonymous,1385047355343.jpg,Fx4v84lNkQn8fUKfOdYsvA==,,,1391685476 26245850,26247499,2014-02-06 11:18:06,">>26245850 >that the most hostile reactions are elicited by the only group that is inherently non-aggressive by definition. From the perspective of an-coms, an-cap system still has threat of force built into it, because it's ""unequal."" The demand side of the lower economic rung are at the mercy of the wealthy supply side who already have all they need to survive. Old-fashioned lefty anarchists oppose inequality of power in principle, wherever it emerges (different to socialists who think the state is justified in making things equal.) They see that no inequality is legitimate or justified. Because they're thick as pig shit and muh feels and what is incentive to work etc. Both ideologies are utopian and attract insane people though. An-caps do seem to be more sensible in general but that's because they're still puppeting Christian/moral virtues (and unaware of this.) Morality is core to their entire ideology, which in turn appeals to authority, control and order, something the capitalist system itself represents. An-cap requires perfectly rational enlightened people who care about their fellow man, yet it has destroyed the church and the family, two sources of this timeless wisdom. The NAP itself is a religious principle that requires moral justification, which in turn requires appointing a moral arbiter to enforce it - pretty difficult when you've got rid of the state AND the church...",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685486 26245850,26247502,2014-02-06 11:18:10,">>26247421 >Under anarcho-capitalism, the ""capitalists"" won't be able to force people to work for them Yeah right. Someone will do well and have a lot of capital. Someone will not do well and be forced to enter an exploitative relationship with the aforementioned to avoid starvation. The same pattern emerges.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685490 26245850,26247505,2014-02-06 11:18:22,">>26247416 The problem I have with capitalism is it promotes the forced repression of revolution in other nations. The revolution will be global because people are being exploited everywhere and they choose a better, freer life for themselves.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391685502 26245850,26247526,2014-02-06 11:19:01,">>26247463 >my question was in a anarchocapitalist society how would a currency be enforced? It wouldn't be ""Enforced"" people would decide which currencies are favorable, and then would use them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685541 26245850,26247566,2014-02-06 11:20:42,">>26247490 >In my amazing fantasy we already have a monopoly on violence and a state that promotes usury and everyone adheres to the great do-whatever-your-owners-want pact and readily accept a dictator-owned court that works on getting paid",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685642 26245850,26247573,2014-02-06 11:21:18,">>26247566 And you did nothing to say one positive thing about anclaping.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685678 26245850,26247579,2014-02-06 11:21:35,">>26247283 >what if i only accepted in payment something that toke as long to make as did my products. You can, though I think economic arguments would suggest that a group of people who did that would tend to have lower living standards. Nothing stopping you however.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685695 26245850,26247580,2014-02-06 11:21:34,">>26247526 yeah i understand but for that to happen you would have to have everybody to agree on something. and that is impossible to do. that is why we have govs and rulers because giving the opportunity people will not conform",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685694 26245850,26247600,2014-02-06 11:22:30,">>26247463 A currency doesn't need to be fucking enforced that's the point. There is no need for a government to force people to accept something. A medium of exchange will be chosen by the masses solely by its attractive properties (ease of transport, divisibility, scarcity). Gold has been used as a medium of exchange long before any governments were in place to ""enforce"" it. Bitcoin is a modern example of this. It honestly makes me depressed to see how misinformed people can be about currency and economics in general.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685750 26245850,26247618,2014-02-06 11:23:16,">>26247490 >>everyone will adhere to this great non-violence pact and readily accept a privately owned court that works on getting paid Welcome to the Church of the Non-aggression principle, the religion of Napism. >But what if I disagree that use of force is wrong, anarchist? >Then I'll force you to accept the NAP... err, oh.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685796 26245850,26247626,2014-02-06 11:23:44,">>26247580 You have literally zero understanding of monetary history. People have always chosen gold and silver as money, across the greatest gulfs of time and space, in completely isolated areas, if they had gold, it was money.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685824 26245850,26247627,2014-02-06 11:23:48,">>26247505 >The problem I have with capitalism You mean mercantilism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685828 26245850,26247628,2014-02-06 11:23:52,">>26247579 why lower living standards? what makes a good living standard? being drenched in gold? or good food, comfortable clothes, a nice place to live and a community that supports you and to which you give back?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685832 26245850,26247630,2014-02-06 11:23:59,"AnCap is utopian in nature, thus it's on the same delusional wavelength as communism Even though I love AnCap. It just isn't meant to be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685839 26245850,26247634,2014-02-06 11:24:27,">>26247189 >same as gold no real value what a idiotic statement. Value is subjective and it obviously has a lot of subjective value to many people, just like EVERY OTHER CURRENCY. It's not my problem if you can't see the value in a medium of exchange. If you refuse to use it, then have fun bartering with yourself and 0.000001% of the population",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685867 26245850,26247643,2014-02-06 11:24:53,">>26247573 >The lack of having all of these shitty things enforced by an involuntary power structure",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685893 26245850,26247645,2014-02-06 11:25:03,">>26247626 hoy remember when the indians traded the lands for beeds and trinckets? and africans traded slaves for mirrors and iron?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685903 26245850,26247654,2014-02-06 11:25:36,">>26247634 Government backed Fiat currency is better because you can't just go fucking dig it out of the fucking ground. Also there's finite amounts of gold.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685936 26245850,26247663,2014-02-06 11:25:57,">>26247499 >The NAP itself is a religious principle that requires moral justification, which in turn requires appointing a moral arbiter to enforce it You don't have to support the NAP to be an ancap, you can also take the approach of economic arguments. You might like to see the chapter called ""problems"": http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685957 26245850,26247664,2014-02-06 11:25:56,">>26247580 Dude, You don't go around asking every fucker on the planet what they want to use as currency, this shit happens naturally and basically without effort over time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391685956 26245850,26247694,2014-02-06 11:27:24,">>26247580 I literally cannot stop laughing at this post. Did you even graduate high school?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686044 26245850,26247700,2014-02-06 11:27:40,">>26247600 yeah but my point is this, how can you make everybody agree on one currency? because most people aren't logical. and in anarchy you are empowered to do whatever you desire. So what would happen if in the middle east they said we don't need gold from now on you shall pay for oil in women. or china decided the same but instead of oil they sell rice?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686060 26245850,26247702,2014-02-06 11:27:41,">David Friedman >Murray Rothbard >Ayn Rand Glad to see a Kosher movement here on /pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686061 26245850,26247713,2014-02-06 11:28:03,">>26247618 >But what if I disagree that use of force is wrong, anarchist? Then when you initiate force against someone you gain a bull's eye on your forehead. >>26247645 I guess the state really had to enforce those monetary laws, didn't they?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686083 26245850,26247721,2014-02-06 11:28:21,">>26247627 Yes, I mean real-existing capitalism of the type practiced by modern nation states, the kind that favors dropping priests out of airplanes because they were talking to much about helping the poor and so on. I have no problem with no coercive market systems for distributing resources, and I even think (democratically regulated) markets are often the idea structure for many functions.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391686101 26245850,26247733,2014-02-06 11:28:54,">>26247618 You use force, you get killed in response. The NAP prohibits you from INITIATING aggression, not from responding to it. If you fail to recognize the authority of the courts, you become an outlaw. Outlaws are not protected by the courts. You can be stolen from, raped, murdered, and processed into dog food with no legal repercussions. The courts won't send people to do that, they will just stop prosecuting those who do. Ever see the movie Hostel? That's what COULD happen if you decided to ignore the courts. In reality, no-one, no matter how wealthy or powerful they were, would be able to ignore the courts. If they become an outlaw, any of their employees could turn on them with no legal repercussions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686134 26245850,26247754,2014-02-06 11:29:53,">>26245850 Because a state's actions are legitimate if authority is derived democratically. And privatizing some services such as natural monopolies is economic poison - just look at the UK railway system.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391686193 26245850,26247756,2014-02-06 11:29:59,">>26247654 Once again proving your ignorance. Fiat is constantly being devalued due to massive amounts being introduced by central banks. What is even your point here? You state that gold is finite and then state that you can just go dig it out of the ground? Having scarcity in a currency is a GOOD thing. Scarcity allows a medium of exchange to hold its value, or increase. There's finite amounts of bitcoin too, it was designed with that in mind, for good reason.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686199 26245850,26247761,2014-02-06 11:30:14,">>26247664 so there is no anarchism just another form of veiled statism. >>26247694 you're argument is?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686214 26245850,26247765,2014-02-06 11:30:28,">>26247645 >Barter exists, therefore gold isn't money This is what retards actually believe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686228 26245850,26247769,2014-02-06 11:30:36,">>26247733 >no matter how wealthy or powerful they were, would be able to ignore the courts. >the court is privately owned",,Anonymous,1318891264289.jpg,b2FgVdsH6wah3f9nVcnRZg==,,,1391686236 26245850,26247772,2014-02-06 11:30:49,">>26247721 >I mean real-existing capitalism of the type practiced by modern nation states So, government-drenched mercantilism? I know communists love labeling anything bad as ""Capitalism"" but come on now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686249 26245850,26247783,2014-02-06 11:31:23,">>26247634 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSYrCoD-8FY",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686283 26245850,26247799,2014-02-06 11:32:01,">>26247761 >so there is no anarchism just another form of veiled statism. >The voluntary market is the same as the aggressive state This is what retards actually believe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686321 26245850,26247808,2014-02-06 11:32:23,">>26247769 >court leaders do not obey the court's laws >Everyone annuls their contracts with said court because it is corrupt >No one signs contracts with said court >Court goes out of business How do we into the free market?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686343 26245850,26247810,2014-02-06 11:32:28,">>26247765 i never said anything about barter. >gold as value this is what yds believe",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686348 26245850,26247838,2014-02-06 11:33:45,"You are all probably smart, good people. The problem is that you just don't understand how stupid the other people will be. The state is a necessary evil to keep these people in line.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686425 26245850,26247846,2014-02-06 11:33:58,">>26247761 >so there is no anarchism just another form of veiled statism People voluntarily agreeing on a medium of exchange is statism? Seriously do you even know what you are talking about? >you're argument is? I don't blame him honestly, you seem to just be jumping in with no coherent idea and your assumptions are 100% wrong, so to even begin to debate with you would be exhausting. It's like raising a child, purposely misinforming him about every concept in the world. The sky is black, trees produce carbon dioxide, babies come from anal sex. Now wait 21 years and try to tell him he's wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686438 26245850,26247849,2014-02-06 11:34:06,">>26247799 doesn't ask the opinion of everyone, opinion of others enforced just because. keeps applying natural to something man made as the market. holly shit is like you try and force yourself to be dumb.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686446 26245850,26247861,2014-02-06 11:34:56,">>26247761 >so there is no anarchism just another form of veiled statism. I'm kind of worried for you dude, are you having a stroke?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686496 26245850,26247875,2014-02-06 11:35:30,">>26247849 Enforced by WHAT? Nobody is pointing a gun to their heads and saying they MUST use gold. They just VOLUNTARILY choose to because everyone else is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686530 26245850,26247880,2014-02-06 11:35:49,">>26247846 I don't agree, many people won't agree. what happens when your community can't get shit because the other community doesn't accept what you have for trade? do you change your currency?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686549 26245850,26247890,2014-02-06 11:36:28,">>26247772 These government-drenched mercantilist states do call themselves Capitalist, but then again the state-capitalist Soviet Union and People's Republic of China called themselves Communist, so... I respect your right to define your terms as you wish.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391686588 26245850,26247893,2014-02-06 11:36:37,">>26247849 >>26247849 I tried for the first 5 or 6 posts, now I don't even think he's made a sentence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686597 26245850,26247898,2014-02-06 11:36:42,">>26247849 What am I even reading?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686602 26245850,26247908,2014-02-06 11:37:05,">>26247861 >>26247875 yeah that is exactly my point you will never get everyone to agree on something unless there is some sort of power behind it. even with power you can't get everybody to agree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686625 26245850,26247916,2014-02-06 11:37:31,">>26247808 >Opinion is binary across a large populace An-Caps may be brilliant economic theorists, but they don't know jack shit about sociology",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686651 26245850,26247922,2014-02-06 11:37:50,">>26247713 >Then when you initiate force against someone you gain a bull's eye on your forehead. Great, a society which destroys itself. Thanks for proving my point. In an unequal stateless society, those with the most resources will power grab and use force. Might is right. ""Rules"" don't exist when you have all the power and can write them yourself. Abandon all hope of moral, compassionate and well-behaved human beings if you don't plan to impose morality via the state, via religious institutions, or via some other clever method ie. obligatory entheogen use. Then again, some people just want to watch the world burn.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686670 26245850,26247925,2014-02-06 11:37:52,">Why the backlash to Anarcho-Capitalism /pol/ I think your organizational theory isn't fully fleshed out, which leads you to the wrong conclusions about how a Stateless society would or should organize. Regardless, the internally consistent among you who aren't just corporate apologists are pretty alright.",,Anteater,1391552595005.png,D8QETNMDVRkV1kmmp15oew==,,,1391686672 26245850,26247934,2014-02-06 11:38:16,">>26245850 It's mostly because the voices we get from AnCap circles are generally weak, like Molyneux, basically Alex Jones level bullshit Why would you support AnCap (modernist voluntaryism) when you could support Classical Liberalism (Friedman) Libertarianism (Mises) or Individualist Anarchism (Josiah Warren)? Most 'AnCap' stuff is stolen from established schools of thought, it's mainstream. Same with most collectivist anarchy camps, they're a bunch of bigots. A return to Classical Liberalism must happen",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686696 26245850,26247945,2014-02-06 11:38:34,">>26247893 >>26247898 see >>26247916 this guys knows it",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686714 26245850,26247947,2014-02-06 11:38:44,">>26245850 >Believe in private property >non-aggressive top lel. You can't have private property without governments.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686724 26245850,26247955,2014-02-06 11:38:58,">>26247880 >what happens when your community can't get shit because the other community doesn't accept what you have for trade? do you change your currency? Why would people do this again? ""Hey man, we have 20 oz of gold, want to trade for 300 pigs?"" NO, WE WOULD NEVER USE THAT EVEN THOUGH IT IS VALUABLE AND WE CAN TRADE IT FOR ITEMS. I WILL ONLY ACCEPT VALUABLES THAT HAVE TAKEN AS LONG TO MAKE A MY PIGS.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686738 26245850,26247958,2014-02-06 11:39:08,">everybody will agree and get along when anclaping! >can't even agree on a internet board",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686748 26245850,26247973,2014-02-06 11:40:02,">>26247925 A stateless society shouldn't be organized at all. With that said, a stateless society is impossible, because each human being is a state of one, which is why Individualist Anarchy is the best possible choice you can make, you're not catering to, nor taking from anyone else, only pressing for your own individual freedom, which is really all you can do to begin with CAPTCHA: bourgeoises lctreek",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686802 26245850,26247982,2014-02-06 11:40:28,">>26247916 It's true that opinion isn't binary, but wouldn't you just choose to live somewhere that has the same ideals as you? I mean, even a communist society is possible in an AnCap world, so long as nobody is being forced to stay there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686828 26245850,26247996,2014-02-06 11:40:58,">>26247955 that is what I want other people might want other things instead. like the gay saudis might want prepubescent kids to fuck in the butt and you have to comply because you need that oil",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686858 26245850,26248003,2014-02-06 11:41:20,">>26247947 Self-ownership (or sovereignty of the individual, individual sovereignty or individual autonomy) is the concept of property in one's own person, expressed as the moral or natural right of a person to have bodily integrity, and be the exclusive controller of his own body and life. According to G. A. Cohen, the concept of self-ownership is that ""each person enjoys, over himself and his powers, full and exclusive rights of control and use, and therefore owes no service or product to anyone else that he has not contracted to supply.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686880 26245850,26248022,2014-02-06 11:41:58,">>26247916 The opinion doesn't have to be binary for said court to lose a fuckload of profits. >>26247922 >Great, a society which destroys itself. Thanks for proving my point. Are you kidding me? Killing people who would kill others for no reason is a society destroying itself? You are fucking insane.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686918 26245850,26248026,2014-02-06 11:42:19,">>26247838 honest, non-naive anarchists recognize the need to have rules and mechanisms for enforce them, we just question the logic of having a small ruling class write those rules.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391686939 26245850,26248034,2014-02-06 11:42:39,">>26248003 G.A. chone said that oh my god IT MUST BE TREUUUUUUUUUUU",,Anonymous,,,,,1391686959 26245850,26248037,2014-02-06 11:42:41,">>26247973 >A stateless society shouldn't be organized at all. Even the most extreme Individualists among the Anarchists recognized the massive benefits derived from social interaction and organization. Even Stirner didn't say, ""just run around doing whatever the fuck you want."" >With that said, a stateless society is impossible, because each human being is a state of one The definition you're using for ""State"" is inconsistent with every other Anarchist definition of ""State.""",,Anteater,,,,,1391686961 26245850,26248070,2014-02-06 11:44:00,">>26248003 Okay, that's nice. What about property in land or buildings or minerals, which ancaps also defend?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687040 26245850,26248072,2014-02-06 11:44:06,">>26248026 No, those are the people who are fucking shit up for everyone in the first place and that's why they want their protectionism to continue at the expense of others, and they are the biggest hypocrites. If we rounded all of the people like that up and killed them, we would not need a change in the political system to begin with because we'd already have eliminated the cancerous, festering tumors that have sickened and rotted the economy and society of this country",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687046 26245850,26248076,2014-02-06 11:44:21,">>26247733 >You use force, you get killed in response. Unless you are the strongest, then you get to kill everyone and no-one can do anything about it. Might is right. Especially if you've destabilised all the other moral foundations of a society. >The NAP prohibits you from INITIATING aggression, not from responding to it. So, this NAP... who is enforcing it? In an anarchist society, what ""authority"" is imposing this virtue? Why is it considered to be universally desirable? Can you make a justification for it? I know I can, but it involves ""statism."" I think the NAP is wonderful, but the reason I think that is because I believe violence is wrong. It is not a universal truth, it is a social construction that puts a value on human life. That cannot exist in an anarchist society, because there's no authority in place to state such a thing. I have great sympathies with an-caps, I am a libertarian myself, but I just don't buy all the appeals to moral virtues that inherently require a state and constitution to enshrine beyond question.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687061 26245850,26248093,2014-02-06 11:45:06,">>26246104 Yeah those caps make you look real intelligent. Proud AnCap reporting in!",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687106 26245850,26248095,2014-02-06 11:45:08,">>26248037 Except Individualist Anarchy, i.e. the only real anarchy. That's why I posted self-ownership, which summarily equals self-state",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687108 26245850,26248099,2014-02-06 11:45:17,">>26247925 exactly, and the revolution won't go forward and succeed until those mechanisms of voluntary organization are ready to lead it.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391687117 26245850,26248106,2014-02-06 11:45:32,">>26247996 >Stateless society >Still relying on hopelessly outdated sources of energy that are only used because of government backed institutions",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687132 26245850,26248162,2014-02-06 11:47:38,>>26246563,,Anonymous,1390881097733.jpg,PBaXr6vEioa/3LJ+s5YkNw==,,,1391687258 26245850,26248183,2014-02-06 11:48:51,">>26248070 1. There should be no federal government 2. There should be no state government 3. Instead, there should be local, neighborhood governments which would be sovereign territories 4. Any land, property, etc. is owned by the local neighborhood and your name is on the deed, meaning that you are actually part of a very small oligarchic democracy 5. Thus, you are shared owner of your neighborhood, i.e. you have an interest in case of a claim, but you aren't the land 'owner'",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687331 26245850,26248201,2014-02-06 11:49:25,">>26248072 I think you are confusing the individuals who currently constitute the ruling class with the ruling class itself. Rounding up the politicians and corporate parasites won't get us anywhere if we lack democratic decision making processes to replace them. We will just end up with a new ruling class made up of the more charismatic and sociopathic among the revolutionaries.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391687365 26245850,26248206,2014-02-06 11:49:42,">>26248095 >Except Individualist Anarchy I consider myself a Mutualists in the Tuckerite tradition. I'm overwhelmingly aware of Individualist Anarchism. Once more, though, people like Warren, Tucker, and Spooner didn't advocate the total atomization of every individual. They advocated exchange and operation within society. This isn't any LESS individualistic, though, so long as you're operating along relatively Stirnerian lines. >That's why I posted self-ownership, which summarily equals self-state Once more, you're misusing the term ""State."" Tucker defined government as ""aggression,"" and went on to define the State as ""an embodiment of government over a claimed geographical area."" The State, by definition, is contingent upon illegitimate claim to ownership, whereas most everyone agrees that you either do or should have control over your own self.",,Anteater,,,,,1391687382 26245850,26248232,2014-02-06 11:51:10,">>26248076 >Unless you are the strongest, then you get to kill everyone and no-one can do anything about it. Are you living in a dragon ball z world? >So, this NAP... who is enforcing it? Everyone who doesn't want force initiated on them by another being >In an anarchist society, what ""authority"" is imposing this virtue? No ""Authority"" is imposing anything in an anarchist society, that's the fucking definition of anarchism. >Why is it considered to be universally desirable? Do you wish others to initiate force against you? ""No."" Congratulations you're part of the 100% of human beings who agree.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687470 26245850,26248236,2014-02-06 11:51:34,">>26248201 And who decides who represents the ruling class? If some people have more say over who the ruling class is than others, wouldn't that make them party leaders? And that is why anarchy as a collective is no different than what we already have. I would rather let 'social darwinism' decide than people who 'fight the power' by doing drugs and stripping in a public park and making drum circles",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687494 26245850,26248252,2014-02-06 11:52:09,">>26247925 >That fucking picture How can an-coms and an-caps agree on anything at all? Okay they can agree that the state is immoral, but for different reasons. Get rid of the state, and you have two tribes at war - one that holds non-aggression as an ultimate virtue and individual freedom as the ideal, and one that has no virtues at all, and holds equality as the ideal. How do you combine equality with non-aggression? I don't see that it's possible to have a consensus on those two values because they inherently oppose each-other, unless you have some mega enlightened society which recognises the failings of human ego and voluntarily donates and spreads wealth and etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687529 26245850,26248268,2014-02-06 11:52:59,">>26248206 What if I told you that small government localities (the people who actually live in a given area and work for their government) actually do have a legitimate claim to their individual areas, as opposed to State and Federal governments (none of whom live in the areas which they govern)?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687579 26245850,26248279,2014-02-06 11:53:41,">>26247769 You know, if you are going to participate in a discussion about something, you really ought to, I don't know, learn about its most basic principles first? The plaintiff and the defendant meet together to choose an arbitrator. Arbitrators are selected based on their record of fair decisions and impartiality. It isn't state imposed where you get a judge and fucking deal with it if he's corrupt. Christ, am I going to have to have this conversation on every fucking ancap thread that gets posted?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687621 26245850,26248298,2014-02-06 11:54:54,">>26248022 >Are you kidding me? Killing people who would kill others for no reason is a society destroying itself? >You are fucking insane. Yes, it is. Because everyone will be doing it. The funny thing about lawlessness is that people tend to do whatever they can get away with. What's insane is your belief that you can have an enlightened society without any institutions in place to foster it (and I fully accept that those institutions are themselves imperfect, prone to corruption and powertrips.) Your gentle anarchist society does not exist without human enlightenment. Without that, we're just stupid monkeys fending for ourselves.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687694 26245850,26248308,2014-02-06 11:55:18,">>26248279 >Am I going to have the same discussion on every thread Yes. This is 4chan.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687718 26245850,26248331,2014-02-06 11:56:27,">>26248236 >describes problems with communism >and this is why anarchism is pretty much what we already have What",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687787 26245850,26248333,2014-02-06 11:56:29,">>26248298 The outcome of anarchy and/or ancap and or any other rebellion or overthrow against the government is inevitably a small, pure democracy in which the bad apples weed themselves out within the first year and the rest of the world lives almost exactly like they do now, only with less restrictions, more money and a better quality of life",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687789 26245850,26248357,2014-02-06 11:57:45,">>26248252 >and one that has no virtues at all, and holds equality as the ideal. That's a pretty drastic misrepresentation of the virtues of AnComs, in general. AnComs want to VOLUNTARILY organize along communist lines. AnCaps want to VOLUNTARILY organize along capitalist lines. Each camp thinks that the other's ideal mode of organization is less likely to gain a foothold than their own. That being the case, as Subcomandante Marcos famously noted, ""We wish to create a world in which many worlds may exist."" There's no reason that AnCom and AnCap societies couldn't both be present in a Stateless society. Plus, the fear that AnCaps have of AnComs declaring all of their property illegitimate and raiding them is largely unfounded. Most internally consistent AnComs make the distinction between private property and bourgeoisie property. The latter results from actually aggressive measures in the acquisition and maintenance of land. If you go out to a field and make it into a small farm, the commune down the road isn't going to fuck with you, because you aren't actually exploiting anybody. If a pattern of property were to arise, though, in which you were effectively able to force people to work for you (like the modern State capitalist economy), that is when they would take offense.",,Anteater,,,,,1391687865 26245850,26248367,2014-02-06 11:58:06,">>26248298 >The government is the only institution that can exist >Implying ancap is a lawless society What, did you just hear the word ""anarchist"" and decide that anarcho-capitalism must be the same thing?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687886 26245850,26248389,2014-02-06 11:58:50,">>26248331 It's true. No one is stopping you right now from doing whatever you want to do. Or stopping anyone else from doing whatever they want to do. What they're doing is attaching price tags, consequences, and other conditions to the things you can already do. Knowing this, the real goal of anarchy isn't to add freedom, it's to lessen unwanted consequences, lower excessive price tags, and remove destructive conditions attached to our daily lives.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687930 26245850,26248397,2014-02-06 11:59:08,">>26248298 >Yes, it is. Because everyone will be doing it. Why would this happen again? You're just making random assertions that without laws enforced by an authoritarian power structure everyone will go batshit insane and start chopping up babies and eating old people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687948 26245850,26248404,2014-02-06 11:59:27,">>26248268 >What if I told you that small government localities (the people who actually live in a given area and work for their government) actually do have a legitimate claim to their individual areas So long as each individual within that local regime voluntarily contracted in to that organization, and retained the right to annul the contract (which would result, of course, in no longer being part of the local regime OR the benefits it provides).",,Anteater,,,,,1391687967 26245850,26248407,2014-02-06 11:59:36,">>26248333 Trips confirms that this guy knows what he is talking about. When is the last time YOU dealt with the government in a way that wasn't a complete hassle?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391687976 26245850,26248442,2014-02-06 12:01:26,">>26248236 My point was that it isn't necessary to identify or round up the existing ruling class, but merely to remove their power, and that it is inadvisable to create a new ruling class but rather to pursue a more directly democratic course. At a minimum, elected leaders should be recallable, as was done in the Paris Commune, but I'm not sure personal election of this sort is always necessary or wise. I think it would be better to select people by lot when necessary and decide many issues by direct voting, market mechanisms, or other rules based processes where all participants are equal. For example, the level of a given tax could be set by taking the median preference of all voters. If 50% of voters think the land value tax should be more than 15%, and 50% think it should be less, than it will be 15%, and so on. A similar process could be used for setting the budget.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391688086 26245850,26248445,2014-02-06 12:01:33,">>26248389 >Knowing this, the real goal of anarchy isn't to add freedom, it's to lessen unwanted consequences, lower excessive price tags, and remove destructive conditions attached to our daily lives. Or just, eliminate a power structure that reserves the right to initiate force against all people's within it's borders? You didn't really even make an argument, you just used some fancy wordplay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688093 26245850,26248469,2014-02-06 12:02:26,">>26248404 Of course. We already have something just like that for national office. All you have to do is make it local. Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States: No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States. See also: Natural-born citizen and President of the United States By the time of their inauguration, the President and Vice President must be: natural born citizens (including naturalization passed from parents) at least thirty-five years old inhabitants of the United States for at least fourteen years. In this 1944 poster, Franklin Roosevelt (left) successfully campaigned for a fourth term. He was the only President who served more than two terms. Eligibility for holding the office of President and Vice-President were modified by subsequent amendments: The Twelfth Amendment (1804) requires the Vice-President must meet all of the qualifications of being a President. The Twenty-second Amendment (1951) prevents a President from being elected more than twice. Make a local version for your neighborhood, done.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688146 26245850,26248483,2014-02-06 12:02:46,">>26246433 >You may be interested in reading the chapter called ""the stability problem"" So much willfully ignorant horseshit condensed in one place, my god. Why is this guy blathering on about bribes and the mafia when we already know what happens when the most powerful person in town is the local ""protection agency"" (a.k.a. warlord a.k.a. sire a.k.a. your lordship). Feudalism is the clear cut result of an-cap ideals and we know this because it already happened many times in history in many places and many cultures. We KNOW that as soon as the local guardsman/tribal leader realizes that he has the thugs and weapons to extort the population with violence instead of reaching a mutually agreeable settlement for ""protection"", he does exactly that and then not only do you have government in the blink of an eye, it's the despot-with-absolute-power type of government who will tax you to the bone, restrict your access to weapons, treat you like slaves and claim ownership of your property, because they can and it's 100% in their interest to do so. Furthermore, you better fucking believe that protection rackets and feudal lords will battle it out for territory because that's EXACTLY what they did for thousands of years and that's EXACTLY what criminal organizations do RIGHT NOW. This shit is so pathetically idealistic and thoughtless it's barely worth refuting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688166 26245850,26248486,2014-02-06 12:02:51,">>26247628 You do realize that the difference between those two things is one layer of transactions, right? Have you at least taken one economics class in your life?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688171 26245850,26248507,2014-02-06 12:03:27,">>26248252 >How do you combine equality with non-aggression? In a well structured society equality and non-aggression are equivalent.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391688207 26245850,26248512,2014-02-06 12:03:39,">>26248407 >When is the last time YOU dealt with the government in a way that wasn't a complete hassle? I saw my congressman in the street a while back and told him to eat shit until his stomach bursts and he dies of gangrene.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688219 26245850,26248528,2014-02-06 12:04:19,">>26248486 >economics >me caring about pseudo-science",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688259 26245850,26248548,2014-02-06 12:05:00,">>26248445 My argument is for Classical Liberalism as a more realistic alternative to AnCap, AnCom, etc. My statement there is an objection to the stated goals and agendas of the leaders of those movements, which often involves a stated message of liberation, when the underlying issue is economic rather than social",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688300 26245850,26248576,2014-02-06 12:06:23,">>26248333 >small, pure democracy Nice.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391688383 26245850,26248582,2014-02-06 12:06:36,">>26247700 Your whole argument is irrelevant. If you are trading rice for oil or some shit, people will decide if your exchange rate is fair, and trade you, or not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688396 26245850,26248589,2014-02-06 12:06:52,">>26247754 The problem with the UK is that any service which is ""privatized"" the UK government is too scared to allow to fail and WILL subsidize, which means you have simultaneously the worst effects of small and big government,",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688412 26245850,26248601,2014-02-06 12:07:34,">>26248232 >Are you living in a dragon ball z world? Uhm it's kind of inevitable. People are free to associate, which they will do, based on their interests. Those who gather the most resources and work together most effectively will have the most power, and will throw their weight around, because they can. This is all governments are, after all. They will inevitably emerge out of your anarchy because there is no democratically accountable and constitutionally limited power structure in place to stop it happening. People do what's best for them, and will dominate others if they can. Sorry, people suck. >Everyone who doesn't want force initiated on them by another being They don't want it enforced on THEM, but why wouldn't they enforce it on others, especially if they have something to gain? Why SHOULD they observe this holy principle of yours? >No ""Authority"" is imposing anything in an anarchist society, that's the fucking definition of anarchism. Exactly, so it's a morally relativist chaos. >Congratulations you're part of the 100% of human beings who agree. Okay, listen carefully because this is crucial. Most humans agree because they have been conditioned by their native cultures that violence is wrong, by their governments/legal systems and by their dominant religious ideologies. You can undermine those power structures and people will continue parroting the moral rights and wrongs - for a while. But they will be gradually undermined. People forget why they're important. ""Do no harm"" is the most fundamental, but it is not immune from intellectual challenge, and indeed would be in your anarchist society, because let's face it, it's the last bit of authority left to challenge. I repeat, if people wish to use force and can get away with it, they will. Whether it's right or wrong doesn't matter, you've undermined the institutions upholding and imposing the moral principles of a culture, therefore those principles will gradually fade from society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688454 26245850,26248614,2014-02-06 12:08:16,">>26247754 There's no such thing as a natural monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688496 26245850,26248622,2014-02-06 12:08:32,">>26248469 It's not quite so similar, though, as each regime could only be made up of the property owned by each individual voluntarily contracting into that regime. At the national level, I have no option of opting out with my property. That being the case, I'm not necessarily in favor of distinct localities. Atomized communities can easily lead to ""us vs. them"" mentalities, which is how conflicts arise. I think it'd be preferable for human interaction to be intersectional. Sure, Jim isn't part of your housing cooperative, but he's a member of your fraternal insurance society. Sure Betty doesn't work in the same firm as you, but she's a member of your Credit Union. Organizational models based largely on geographical locality provide more opportunities for inter-group hate and aggression to emerge than ones in which social interaction is more fluid and dynamic. Also, lunch time. I might be back in a bit. Maybe not.",,Anteater,,,,,1391688512 26245850,26248624,2014-02-06 12:08:33,">>26248582 yeah but my point is still valid. your community needs something to thrive, can't get it by trade. what you think would happen?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688513 26245850,26248651,2014-02-06 12:09:32,">>26248548 And how would classical liberalism work again? The US government was the smallest state ever designed in history and now it's become the largest police-state militarist plutocracy the world has ever seen. . . Trying to keep a government small doesn't work very well. And also, How is paying for involuntary taxes better on the economy than a complete free market?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688572 26245850,26248658,2014-02-06 12:09:48,">>26248442 >Remove power You can't remove power. You can remove money. You can remove land. You can throw dirt on someone's reputation, kill their friends and family, imprison or execute them. None of that, nor anything else, removes power. Power comes from within. Brutus killed Caesar - did Caesar lose any power? No, Caesar's power after death became a thousand times greater than during his lifetime. His power is now immortal, for all eternity. Knowing that you cannot remove power, which one of the above goals are you really looking to achieve? If it's money, then just say that it's money, and we can all get on the same page.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688588 26245850,26248693,2014-02-06 12:10:57,">>26247922 >Abandon all hope of moral, compassionate and well-behaved human beings if you don't plan to impose morality via the state, via religious institutions, or via some other clever method ie. obligatory entheogen use. Then again, some people just want to watch the world burn. Look around yourself right now. Look out on your street corner. Do you SEE laws and rules? Do you SEE a uniformed state enforcer on the corner with a weapon enforcing morality?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688657 26245850,26248700,2014-02-06 12:11:10,,,Anonymous,anarchy.png,DyJa7peKzrN4CsMfJMS5tQ==,,,1391688670 26245850,26248704,2014-02-06 12:11:14,">>26248658 >Brutus killed Caesar - did Caesar lose any power? Is this a joke?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688674 26245850,26248705,2014-02-06 12:11:21,">>26248651 When a stock reaches a certain value with a number of shares issued, the stock splits. ""A stock split or stock divide increases the number of shares in a public company. The price is adjusted such that the before and after market capitalization of the company remains the same and dilution does not occur. Options and warrants are included."" We perform the stock split process on the USA, we divide each existing state into smaller states to avoid the dilution associated with overgrowth.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688681 26245850,26248737,2014-02-06 12:12:19,">>26248357 >AnComs want to VOLUNTARILY organize along communist lines. AnCaps want to VOLUNTARILY organize along capitalist lines. Each camp thinks that the other's ideal mode of organization is less likely to gain a foothold than their own. Exactly. These differences of belief will be resolved empirically as they systems are implemented, what will remain is a multiplicity of social arrangements which maintain liberty and prosperity in their own ways.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391688739 26245850,26248746,2014-02-06 12:12:33,">>26248704 No, it's a subtle truth, while Caesar was alive, he was known by a few million people at best. Now, 70% of a 7.3 billion world knows who Julius Caesar was. Knowledge is power, and Caesar is knowledge.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688753 26245850,26248747,2014-02-06 12:12:34,">>26248693 >Do you SEE laws and rules? Do you SEE a uniformed state enforcer on the corner with a weapon enforcing morality? 0/10",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688754 26245850,26248771,2014-02-06 12:13:36,">>26248601 >and will throw their weight around By doing what? Producing things and selling them? >They don't want it enforced on THEM, but why wouldn't they enforce it on others, especially if they have something to gain? Why SHOULD they observe this holy principle of yours? If they don't it opens them up for rightful retribution? IE death. >chaos That's a nice buzzword you've got there >People believe violence is wrong because governments and religion Oh lord.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688816 26245850,26248812,2014-02-06 12:14:56,">>26248658 >No, Caesar's power after death became a thousand times greater than during his lifetime. His power is now immortal, for all eternity. I laughed",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391688896 26245850,26248822,2014-02-06 12:15:22,">>26248747 It's the fucking truth.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688922 26245850,26248826,2014-02-06 12:15:26,">>26248367 >Implying ancap is a lawless society If it has laws, it needs someone to enforce them, and a justification for why. No an-flap in this thread has been able to simply say why aggression is wrong, only saying ""well most people agree it's wrong SO THERE"" and ""muh eye for an eye."" It's interesting. >>26248397 >Why would this happen again? Because it's personally advantageous to screw other people over if you can get away with it. >You're just making random assertions that without laws enforced by an authoritarian power structure everyone will go batshit insane and start chopping up babies and eating old people. That is exactly what I am saying, yes. You are applying your concept of an anarcho capitalist society to a nation of people with Christian values. Imagine a few generations from now once there is no monopoly on morality/religion - it's a free-for-all, people are going to disagree, even on some things you think are beyond question. That is the thing about anarchism - nothing is beyond question. Nothing is inherently ""wrong"", and if it is, it requires authority of some kind to enforce, ie. it's still not anarchism, because force isn't voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688926 26245850,26248854,2014-02-06 12:16:20,">>26248622 Those conflicts and mentalities will always exist. We're dealing with humans. Competition produces progress. Regulation restricts access to competition. Mentalities and conflicts are not the problem; the problem lies in the current available resolutions. Inter-group hate and aggression would be rejected in exactly the way it is now, if not more so, because those individuals would realize that they're not dealing with the gentle red tape of the federal government, that promises a death sentence and then pardons you 20 years later...",,Anonymous,,,,,1391688980 26245850,26248885,2014-02-06 12:17:33,">>26248704 >Being this delusional. When caesar was killed... he died m8. Power is the ability to make people do things and stop them from making you do things, when you're dead, neither of those things is relevant at all, ergo you have no power. Furthermore, you don't even know who the fuck caesar actually was or how his name is supposed to be pronounced. Being a vague memory of a person, distorted and twisted by generations of actual living people with real power is not something the actual person, caesar, cares about, since he's been dirt for a long, long time.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689053 26245850,26248899,2014-02-06 12:18:19,">>26248812 It's funny because it's true. Take any of your inspirations, look at the effect they had on you - long after they've been dead, they empowered you. The existence of said individuals makes a great case for historical recurrence, and vice versa, by the way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689099 26245850,26248938,2014-02-06 12:19:34,">>26248826 >Because it's personally advantageous to screw other people over if you can get away with it. And you don't take into account any community backlash? The person defending themselves? the fact that a moral conscious is present in all human beings that were not abused as children? > You are applying your concept of an anarcho capitalist society to a nation of people with Christian values. >Not wanting to be stabbed for your jacket is christian Alright, Constantine.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689174 26245850,26248941,2014-02-06 12:19:39,">>26248885 If your name is recorded in history, you will never truly die. As long as you are mentioned in some way, shape, or form, you are alive.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689179 26245850,26248950,2014-02-06 12:20:10,">>26248826 Are you choosing to ignore natural empathy that most people are born with? Do you REALLY think the only reason we aren't all at each others throats is because of some distant authority figure with some rules written down?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689210 26245850,26248994,2014-02-06 12:21:42,">>26248507 >In a well structured society equality and non-aggression are equivalent. I agree entirely! Because in a perfect society, everyone voluntarily shares everything they have and helps each other. I realise this. The problem is: what is this structure and how does it work? Is preaching non-aggression enough to enlighten people? Because I'm certain it isn't. I think you need to talk about the dangers of egotism and self-worship more generally, ie. what religions do. NAP alone still doesn't address issues of greed, selfishness, envy, lust, whatever. Because lets face it, the NAP is just a very small kind of religion. If you are principled in that way, why not take your value of principle further and build a wise and kind society in every area? And granted, blunt use of force via the state apparatus totally contradicts that, it's just we haven't worked out any way of having an enlightened society that doesn't rely on some top-down imposition of right and wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689302 26245850,26249002,2014-02-06 12:21:59,"So, nobody explained me yet, how do you expect people to get along and live in peace, without trying to fuck over others for their own profit, when they can't even fucking agree over something on the internet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689319 26245850,26249005,2014-02-06 12:22:02,">>26248950 almost all of us have the ability to feel empathy, but it has to be cultivated. A society can educate itself to be free and compassionate, but it can also educate itself in violence and delusion.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391689322 26245850,26249009,2014-02-06 12:22:05,">>26248771 >By doing what? Producing things and selling them? By putting guns in people's faces and paying a bunch of people to do the same thing, jackass. >If they don't it opens them up for rightful retribution? IE death. Except that the people they harm can't fight back, because they have more people, more weapons and more money. >People believe violence is wrong because governments and religion Are we pretending that humanity hasn't spent most of existence gleefully murdering/raping/enslaving/looting the tribe next door because they weren't part of their immediate social group?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689325 26245850,26249059,2014-02-06 12:23:58,">>26248941 >If your name is recorded in history, you will never truly die. There's nothing you can really say to people this separated from reality.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689438 26245850,26249070,2014-02-06 12:24:26,">>26249005 Ideas cannot be violent, racist, discriminatory, destructive, murderous, but also they cannot be loving, caring, equal, open-minded, tolerant, constructive, or empowering. These are traits of human beings which possess ideas. Ideas are organized thoughts. The moment you start to categorize thoughts based on the person you've associated with having them is the moment that you've become indoctrinated and a victim of your own confirmation bias",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689466 26245850,26249086,2014-02-06 12:24:56,">>26245850 >Why the backlash to Anarcho-Capitalism /pol/? It would have to have some success to have a backlash. >Everyone seems to either love it or hate it. Dumb people and non-dumb people respectively. > elicited by the only group that is inherently non-aggressive by definition Then why all the guns? The truth about libertarianism is simple: Property is the right to deploy violence to retain control. Only very stupid people think otherwise. Most of us recognize that cops and courts are generally a more peaceful, less violent way to manage those rights than the alternatives. Ancaps are either people whose heads are so far up their anuses that they think they are better at violence than everyone else in the world, or people lying about their claims to be peaceful. You pick which one you think applies to you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689496 26245850,26249092,2014-02-06 12:25:17,">>26249009 >By putting guns in people's faces and paying a bunch of people to do the same thing, jackass. And how would that work again? Police forces will stop existing? No one will figure out how to start a militia against these people? >Except that the people they harm can't fight back, because they have more people, more weapons and more money. See above >Are we pretending that humanity hasn't spent most of existence gleefully murdering/raping/enslaving/looting the tribe next door because they weren't part of their immediate social group? Yes, because that's not true whatsoever.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689517 26245850,26249121,2014-02-06 12:26:10,">>26249070 >Ideas cannot be violent, racist, discriminatory, destructive, murderous, but also they cannot be loving, caring, equal, open-minded, tolerant, constructive, or empowering. These are traits of human beings which possess ideas. This is by far the most moronic thing anyone has posted in this thread so far.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689570 26245850,26249136,2014-02-06 12:26:36,">>26249070 Why the fuck is everything you say just nonsensical wordplay?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689596 26245850,26249138,2014-02-06 12:26:39,">>26248693 Of course not. I live in a society where, despite all its failings, the people are still basically wise. They have been conditioned by schools, government, law, religion, and family to behave in accordance with basic Christian values, which are now slowly crumbling. It could be Hindu or Islamic or pantheist or whatever, it doesn't matter, what's important is that there is a common code of ethics and morality so people can live with each-other in a society and not go crazy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689599 26245850,26249175,2014-02-06 12:27:47,">>26249059 But that is reality, anon. You are your thoughts, your works, your contributions to society. What you have built, what you have done, that is what you are. If you die physically, your contributions don't die with you. Your thoughts have been recorded and left behind, so your thoughts have not died. They are carried on by the people who believe in you, even after your physical death.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689667 26245850,26249189,2014-02-06 12:28:05,">>26248994 >why not take your value of principle further and build a wise and kind society in every area? We should do this, we can have a society that educates compassionate citizens and I'm sure this can be done without having this education imposed from the top-down by a centralized bureaucracy. It may not be easy to get there, but it isn't impossible.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391689685 26245850,26249203,2014-02-06 12:28:36,">>26249138 >People are conditioned by government and government extentions not to kill How does empathy work /pol/? 4 year old children don't want to murder other children.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689716 26245850,26249210,2014-02-06 12:28:49,">>26249121 No, he's right",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689729 26245850,26249213,2014-02-06 12:28:56,That Capitalism and Anarchism cannot co-exist.,Daily reminder,Anonymous,,,,,1391689736 26245850,26249247,2014-02-06 12:30:04,">>26249210 >>26249070 samefag",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689804 26245850,26249274,2014-02-06 12:31:04,">>26249136 It's not nonsensical, I'm pointing out that calling something a 'racist idea', for example, is non-sequitur emotional logic. You should be asking yourself why your reading comprehension doesn't entail basic High School concepts",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689864 26245850,26249283,2014-02-06 12:31:27,">>26249092 >Police forces will stop existing? A police force in an an-cap society. Dear lord. >No one will figure out how to start a militia against these people? These people ARE the militia. Anyone with enough money or charisma to get a bunch of thugs and farm boys together is top dog and can make you do, pay or give up whatever they want. We know this because it's happened as long as farming has existed. >Yes, because that's not true whatsoever. Cool story kid. Consider taking an ancient history class next semester.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689887 26245850,26249294,2014-02-06 12:31:56,">>26249213 >You can't make money in the private sector without government",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689916 26245850,26249315,2014-02-06 12:32:38,">>26249175 When you die, let me know how much your corpse values your legacy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391689958 26245850,26249332,2014-02-06 12:33:23,">>26249274 ""Black people should be murdered for being black"" Is a racist Idea Eugenics Is a racist Idea How is this emotional logic?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690003 26245850,26249357,2014-02-06 12:34:11,">>26248771 >By doing what? Producing things and selling them? No, by killing and stealing. The only reason the corporations we have in society right now aren't gangsters is because they are obiding by the law. They fear retribution by something bigger than themselves. They use the government as a mediator to ensure fair competition. >If they don't it opens them up for rightful retribution? IE death. Addressed this already. Reason why it's wrong: people with most power don't get killed. >Oh lord. I hate to break it to you, but people don't just naturally assume a moral compass when they're forced into this world screaming and shitting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690051 26245850,26249375,2014-02-06 12:34:51,">>26246036 >he thinks Anarcho-Socialism is a real thing",,Anonymous,1.jpg,ogqvfnlOXbnbct+nEezCLA==,,,1391690091 26245850,26249380,2014-02-06 12:34:56,"Hey, if gold was money, wouldn't the value of your money be changing all the time, as new wealth was created/new gold was mined? Also, if your currency is constantly increasing in value, you have no incentive to invest in the market, so things like the stock market collapse, preventing hundreds of billions of dollars of annual investment. Plus the value of gold would have to be watched constantly to prevent arbitration. Speaking of arbitration, by the way, that would be a pretty huge problem with having multiple currencies, no? A situation like >the Pacific Northwest Union Standard has undervalued pigs by 3%! Would result in possibly many people, but most likely only a few people (the arbitration game costs a lot to get into) trading their money for PNUS, buying and buying pigs for 3% less then they're worth, losing revenue for the pig vendors.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391690096 26245850,26249385,2014-02-06 12:35:03,">>26249332 Why are you even bothering to argue with the guy? He sounds mentally ill.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690103 26245850,26249409,2014-02-06 12:35:57,">>26249294 >Private property >Anarchism Nope.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690157 26245850,26249418,2014-02-06 12:36:20,">>26249283 >A police force in an an-cap society. Dear lord. How do we into voluntary transactions >These people ARE the militia. Anyone with enough money or charisma to get a bunch of thugs and farm boys together is top dog and can make you do, pay or give up whatever they want. We know this because it's happened as long as farming has existed. See police force >Cool story kid. Consider taking an ancient history class next semester. >This guy thinks that ancient greece was ancap",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690180 26245850,26249427,2014-02-06 12:36:29,">>26249332 No, it's an incorrect idea. Rather than pointing out why the idea is factually incorrect, you shout 'that's racist!', which is the very definition of non sequitur. You don't have a factual argument or conclusion to draw against Eugenics, so you shout 'racism!' and it evokes an emotional response, and all of the other people in the room shout 'yeah, that's racist, yeah!' Meanwhile, you haven't proposed a factual alternative or examined the actual depth of the subject matter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690189 26245850,26249441,2014-02-06 12:36:53,">>26249375 Nigga please, how is it not?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690213 26245850,26249448,2014-02-06 12:37:05,">>26249283 What if someone with no money or connections gets murdered? Say, Steve the homeless man. There would be nobody to pay either the courts, or the investigators on his behalf, and justice would not be served.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391690225 26245850,26249460,2014-02-06 12:37:31,">>26249409 Pfffffffffff Anarchist syndicalism=/=anarchist capitalism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690251 26245850,26249476,2014-02-06 12:38:10,">>26249385 I have a mental illness called ""Magna cum Laude"", it's terminal, I contracted it while I was enrolled at Stanford University. What disease do you have? High School dropout cough? Don't worry, it's nothing serious, I'm sure you'll get well soon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690290 26245850,26249493,2014-02-06 12:38:38,">>26249448 >Implying the homeless would survive to get murdered",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690318 26245850,26249507,2014-02-06 12:39:12,">>26249418 I can't even get my head around how little you understand about an-cap ideology or basic history right now. Honest question, have you graduated from highschool?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690352 26245850,26249529,2014-02-06 12:39:45,"I'm not a follower. It requires a lot of naïveté in my mind and would severely hurt most people in the world, tribalism and people trying to fill the power void would be two things you would have in abundance, both of which lead to horrendous violence and savagery. I am inclined to agree with people like Ayn Rand who understood that a minimum state was necessary to maintain your current state of freedom and actually enjoy a good economy and market.",,Freedom Fighter,,,IL,,1391690385 26245850,26249556,2014-02-06 12:40:36,">>26249476 Oh yeah, what did you major in?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690436 26245850,26249557,2014-02-06 12:40:37,">>26249427 >How is an Idea that promotes the discrimination of races based on what one perceives as a superior quality to another factually racist Are you functionally retarded? It is a factual statement to say that something is racist, just because some liberal niggershits use it as a buzzword doesn't make it the dictionary definition of the word. Racism=the act of asserting the existence of differences between the races",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690437 26245850,26249569,2014-02-06 12:41:04,">Usual people that subscribe to the ideas have either been molested or abused at an early age >Anyone who attack their ideas are attacking them personally >Narcissistic people who know nothing but talk about themselves and their liberties >Neo-liberals >Usual people that subscribe to the ideas have either been molested or abused at an early age >Likely to be sexual deviants >Anyone who attack their ideas are attacking them personally >Narcissistic people who know nothing but talk about themselves and their liberties Libertarianism is a mentall illness",Libertarianism =Neo-Liberalism,Zamolxis,,,,,1391690464 26245850,26249581,2014-02-06 12:41:27,">>26248938 >And you don't take into account any community backlash? The person defending themselves? What ""community"" is this? This is anarchism, there is no one community with one set of values. There's communities everywhere. Frankly there can be a community of one person if it's anarcho-primitive enough. >>26248938 >Alright, Constantine. That wasn't my argument. My argument is that unless people are raised with reverence to certain rules and standards of behaviour, they'll do whatever they want. >>26248950 >Are you choosing to ignore natural empathy that most people are born with? No, I accept that empathy is natural. But I don't think it's enough, because in a society that rewards everything material and nothing spiritual, empathy is an irrational thing to have. It needs to be enshrined, celebrated and have bells, whistles and trimmings all around it. >Do you REALLY think the only reason we aren't all at each others throats is because of some distant authority figure with some rules written down? I think people are more likely to stumble and make huge errors of judgement in life if they haven't been educated previously, sure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690487 26245850,26249582,2014-02-06 12:41:30,">>26249448 That already happens all the time. The benefit of a Classical Liberal society is that there would be less homeless/unemployed people overall.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690490 26245850,26249599,2014-02-06 12:42:07,">>26249476 >I have a mental illness called ""Pretentious douchebag"", it's terminal, I contracted it while I was enrolled at Stanford University. FTFY",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690527 26245850,26249602,2014-02-06 12:42:23,">>26249460 >implying You guys are just marxists in denial.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690543 26245850,26249603,2014-02-06 12:42:23,">>26247029 >all value is subjective >gold is objectively valuable This is why no one takes you guys seriously.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690543 26245850,26249608,2014-02-06 12:42:41,">>26249441 because anarchism is stateless and socialism requires a massive state apparatus to coerce people. a stateless society can only exist if it has an economic system based on voluntary interaction. >inb4 ""trade isn't voluntary!""",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690561 26245850,26249612,2014-02-06 12:42:56,">>26249529 >I am inclined to agree with people like Ayn Rand who understood that a minimum state was necessary to maintain your current state of freedom and actually enjoy a good economy and market. Urrgh. Why Rand? Of all the prominent minarchist libertarians you pick her. Jesus.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690576 26245850,26249627,2014-02-06 12:43:17,">>26249557 No, that's not racism. Furthermore: ""The exact definition of racism is controversial both because there is little scholarly agreement about the meaning of the concept ""race"", and because there is also little agreement about what does and does not constitute discrimination."" Ideas have never killed anyone, never raped anyone, never enslaved anyone, never fired anyone from a job, never beaten anyone. Ideas do not discriminate. People do. Racism comes from humans, not from ideas",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690597 26245850,26249632,2014-02-06 12:43:32,">>26245850 Libertarianism and The Jews http://the-libertarian.co.uk/libertarianism-jews/ >Ludwig von Mises; Ayn Rand; Murray Rothbard; Milton Friedman; Robert Nozick; David Ricardo; David Friedman; Rose Friedman; John Stossel; Richard Epstein; Nathaniel Branden; Leonard Peikoff; Yaron Brook; Israel Kirzner; Anna Schwartz; Walter Block; Frank Zappa; the Koch brothers; Lanny Friedlander; Frank Chodorov; Peter Schiff; Robert Fogel; Steven Horwitz; Matt Stone; Emile Yusupoff. Libertarianism: To Jews http://chelm.freeyellow.com/Jewish_index.html >It is no accident that the founders of Western liberties and free-market capitalism were generally either Jewish or quoted Jewish scriptures approvingly. The Jewish ideal is capitalism (liberty) tempered by charity and sympathy.",,Anonymous,lolberg jews.png,6AwPzRydqlPUpXJWpe3xpQ==,,,1391690612 26245850,26249643,2014-02-06 12:43:57,">>26249602 >You guys are just marxists in denial. Says the guy trying to say that anarchists cannot have property. . .",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690637 26245850,26249646,2014-02-06 12:44:03,">>26249189 >We should do this, we can have a society that educates compassionate citizens and I'm sure this can be done without having this education imposed from the top-down by a centralized bureaucracy. It may not be easy to get there, but it isn't impossible. I have my own ideas of how it's possible, and it involves voluntary participation in religious experience, meditation, use of entheogens etc. There's good science in support of these practices heightening empathy and compassion, and of imparting a kind of ineffable wisdom that religious institutions can't quite do as successfully. But really it's all pie in the sky.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690643 26245850,26249652,2014-02-06 12:44:13,"Me and people who agree with me form our own government, by pooling our resources together via taxation we eventually create a force strong enough to have a monopoly on violence because no opposing force has enough resources to even equal us. Then we ~spread some democracy~.",,Anonymous,1382660084364.png,RgdDRxVow8LmPTDzthOb6A==,,,1391690653 26245850,26249660,2014-02-06 12:44:35,">>26249608 Anarchic socialism is the default setting for hunter gatherer societies, just how fucking ignorant are you bud?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690675 26245850,26249667,2014-02-06 12:44:55,">>26249643 private property =/= personal property Like i said, you guys dont even know you're marxists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690695 26245850,26249671,2014-02-06 12:45:05,"Notable Historical Jewish Libertarians * Alan Bock, 1944-2011 (author; editorialist, Orange County Register) * David Brudnoy, 1940-2004 (talk radio host; TV commentator; author) * Ralph de Toledano, 1916-2007 (former editor, The New Leader) * Aaron Director, 1901-2004 (former Professor of Economics, University of Chicago) * Lanny Friedlander, 1947-2011 (founder, Reason Magazine) * Milton Friedman, 1912-2006 (author; philosopher; economist) * Dr. Ronald Hamowy, 1937-2012 (former professor of History) * Irv Homer, 1924-2009 (talk radio host) * Ze'ev Vladimir Jabotinsky, 1880-1940 (founder, Betar Zionist Group) * Robert Nozick, 1938-2002 (author; philosopher; economist) * Dyanne Petersen (former Senior Editor, Laissez Faire Books) * Ayn Rand, 1905-1982 (author; philosopher) * David Ricardo, 1772-1823 (economist) * Irv Rubin, 1945-2002 (Jewish activist; former Chairman, Jewish Defense League) * Aaron Russo, 1943-2007 (2004 Libertarian Presidential contender; Hollywood producer) * Anna Jacobson Schwartz, 1915-2012 (economist) * Julian Simon, 1932-1998 (economist) * Aaron B. Wildavsky, 1930-1993 (author; professor of Political Science) * Ludwig Von Mises, 1881-1973 (economist; Nobel Prize winner) * Aaron Zelman, 1945-2010 (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership) * Murray Rothbard, 1926-1995 (author; historian; economist; political theorist)",,Anonymous,libertarians1.png,lt7YM6S9Le9mkFulKpEPvw==,,,1391690705 26245850,26249676,2014-02-06 12:45:21,">>26249612 Because I like her, Im not a person that usually follows ideology with one hundred percent purity but I quite enjoy hers and feel like I can apply alot of it to me. I don't get the hate for Rand, I really don't.",,Freedom Fighter,,,IL,,1391690721 26245850,26249686,2014-02-06 12:45:45,">>26249569 1. Who are you quoting? 2. What ideas specifically are you referring to?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690745 26245850,26249687,2014-02-06 12:45:47,">>26249582 Yeah, but organizations not operating for profit at least attempt to investigate in profitless situations.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391690747 26245850,26249688,2014-02-06 12:45:48,">>26249608 >because anarchism is stateless and socialism requires a massive state apparatus to coerce people. Confirmed for idiot. Nigga define socialism for me. Right now forget it because your definition is wrong. Socialism is just communal ownership, it's just an alternative to private, it requires no state and the only faggots that think it do are Marxo-Leninist scum.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690748 26245850,26249690,2014-02-06 12:45:50,">>26249627 >Racism comes from humans, not from ideas Ideas come from humans.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690750 26245850,26249697,2014-02-06 12:45:59,"http://mises.org/rothbard/ethics/fourteen.asp >Suppose now that the baby has been born. Then what? First, we may say that the parents-or rather the mother, who is the only certain and visible parent-as the creators of the baby become its owners. … The mother, then, is the natural and rightful owner of the baby, and any attempt to seize the baby by force is an invasion of her property right. >Now if a parent may own his child (within the framework of non-aggression and runaway-freedom), then he may also transfer that ownership to someone else. He may give the child out for adoption, or he may sell the rights to the child in a voluntary contract. In short, we must face the fact that the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children. … In fact, we find a large unsatisfied demand by adults and couples for children, along with a large number of surplus and unwanted babies neglected or maltreated by their parents. >Applying our theory to parents and children, this means that a parent does not have the right to aggress against his children, but also that the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights. The parent therefore may not murder or mutilate his child, and the law properly outlaws a parent from doing so. But the parent should have the legal right not to feed the child, i.e., to allow it to die.",,Anonymous,libertarianism children.jpg,pWNDhUQi65H5VEvKZb1PzA==,,,1391690759 26245850,26249716,2014-02-06 12:46:47,">>26249660 Name a documented anarcho socialist tribe",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690807 26245850,26249735,2014-02-06 12:47:31,"The world IS ancap, this is the result of it. >>26249671 >le joos said something, so it cannot be true The Jews also invented the nuclear bomb, and that sure as fuck works.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391690851 26245850,26249737,2014-02-06 12:47:34,">>26249667 Private property is the exact same thing as personal property. The only way you can argue otherwise is with the help of a state. IE ""Corporations are people""",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690854 26245850,26249746,2014-02-06 12:47:46,">>26249688 >Socialism is just communal ownership, LOLNO socialism =/= communism lrn2marxism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690866 26245850,26249748,2014-02-06 12:47:50,">>26249603 An-cap contradictions? An-cap contradictions. >people are rational, profit-maximizing agents >except when it comes to force, people will refuse to use force when it is profitable to do so, except when they don't. >people are the best judge of their own interests, and no one can tell them what's best for them, especially not the government. >Why are people too stupid to realize that An-Cap is what's best for them. That's why we need a violent revolution to establish what we think is best for everyone.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690870 26245850,26249753,2014-02-06 12:48:00,">>26249603 There's a fixed amount of gold on this planet, it is a fixed resource. Calling it 'objective value' or 'subjective value', those aren't economic terms, those are social terms. Call it what it is, a fixed resource. Fixed resources generally have a greater value than renewable resources.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690880 26245850,26249765,2014-02-06 12:48:33,"Nation and race do not coincide; there is no nation of pure blood. All peoples have arisen from a mixture of races. - Ludwig von Mises, Nation, State, and Economy, page 10 The fundamental discrepancies in worldview and patterns of behavior do not correspond to differences in race, nationality or class affiliation. - Ludwig von Mises, Human Action, page 87''' It is neither natural nor necessary that the members of the same race or the inhabitants of the same country cooperate with one another more closely than with members of other races or inhabitants of other countries. The ideas of race solidarity and racial hatred are no less ideas than any other ideas, and only where they are accepted by the individuals do they result in corresponding action. - Ludwig von Mises, The Ultimate Foundation of Economic Science, page 81 There cannot be the slightest doubt that migration barriers diminish the productivity of human labor. - Ludwig von Mises, Liberalism, page 139 The closed-door policy is one of the root causes of our wars. - Ludwig von Mises, Omnipotent Government, page 263 Libertarians have generally welcomed immigration, and on very simple grounds. According to the ""non-aggression axiom,"" it is wrong to aggress against the person or property of anyone who has not himself committed such aggression. To restrict the free movement of peoples across borders is thus to engage in unjustified aggression, and is therefore anathema. - Tom Woods, Liberty and Immigration We call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally. - Official Libertarian Political Platform, 2004 election cycle",,Anonymous,libertarian jew.jpg,fdwN1EGCNMcg5eE3UWoy9Q==,,,1391690913 26245850,26249768,2014-02-06 12:48:37,">>26248826 > nothing is inherently wrong Right, everyone will have their own subjective morals and outlooks. But, I advocate that we should use debate and compromise to achieve an agreement on morals and what should be done is society rather than violence and command. I wouldn't enforce that onto other people, and here's where an-caps and ""personal property"" an-comma miss, which is that defending yourself is an imposition of ownership. Truly applied anarchist principles is pacifism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690917 26245850,26249770,2014-02-06 12:48:39,">>26249627 >Tries to refute argument by suggesting that the concept of race is vague, therefore there cannot be racist ideas. You know, I have a feeling that you've not actually been to Stanford.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690919 26245850,26249774,2014-02-06 12:48:49,">>26249737 >Private property is the exact same thing as personal property. LOLNO private property =/= personal property lrn2marxism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391690929 26245850,26249804,2014-02-06 12:50:32,">>26249652 Still waiting for a reply, and I just can't wait for the argument to be ""that would never happen"".",,Anonymous,1377114150869.png,ZSFR8f9dlK3jpQFBGmZSww==,,,1391691032 26245850,26249814,2014-02-06 12:50:46,">>26249746 Marx does not own the word socialism. It has meaning's beyond his set of social theories. Marx was a faggot demonstrated wrong by history, the rational left long since abandoned him.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691046 26245850,26249821,2014-02-06 12:50:59,,,Anonymous,libertarianism4.png,bAF7V3owyPae09kZRhoLIA==,,,1391691059 26245850,26249827,2014-02-06 12:51:16,">>26249690 Correlation does not imply causation. If you write a novel that espouses the virtues of slavery, does that mean that you, who treats everyone with respect, you that have never owned slaves, does that mean you are a 'racist'? Of course not. It's a classic example of emotionally based, non sequitur association of people with similar ideas. It's right in the FAQ too, I don't know why we're having this argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691076 26245850,26249835,2014-02-06 12:51:27,">>26249002 Disagreement is good, using force to get someone to agree is not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691087 26245850,26249865,2014-02-06 12:52:18,">>26249814 >It has meaning's beyond his set of social theories >ill give my arbitrary definitions and set it as objective fact! LOLNO lrn2Marxism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691138 26245850,26249876,2014-02-06 12:52:37,">>26249765 The funny thing is, my statist friend, the cultural marxism going on across the world right now and the attraction of immigrants to OECD's is GOVERNMENT MANDATED. If the government was not actively importing immigrants, making affirmative action, providing them with housing, welfare and child benefits, and allowed companies, estates and people to discriminate, none of this would be happening. So you can fuck right off.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391691157 26245850,26249896,2014-02-06 12:53:40,"http://mises.org/daily/1980 >We must not forget libertarianism is not a teleological dogma striving for a certain end; it rather sees individual freedom and rights as the natural point of departure for a just society. When people are truly free, whatever will be will be. Hence, the question is not what the effects of a certain immigration policy would be, but whether there should be one at all. >From a libertarian point of view, it is not relevant to discuss whether to support immigration policy A, B, or C. The answer is not open borders but no borders; the libertarian case is not whether private property rights restrict immigration or not, but that a free society is based on private property. Both of these views are equally libertarian - but they apply the libertarian idea from different points of view. The open borders argument provides the libertarian stand on immigration from a macro view, and therefore stresses the libertarian values of tolerance and openness. http://www.lp.org/ >We support the removal of governmental impediments to free trade. Political freedom and escape from tyranny demand that individuals not be unreasonably constrained by government in the crossing of political boundaries. Economic freedom demands the unrestricted movement of human as well as financial capital across national borders. http://libertarianpartyuk.com/immigration/ >The core tenet is that there should be free movement of peoples. >we are committed to pursuing an open borders policy towards those who would wish to come to the United Kingdom in order to contribute to our economy and peaceful shores. http://www.libertarian.ca/platform-libertarian-party-canada >Immigrants and refugees should be admitted freely to Canada >Agents may assist immigrants and refugees in supplying contact information for private groups and individuals who are willing to sponsor and assist them.",,Anonymous,here comes the diversity.jpg,7NqhyfetyIyIdM6SsY8/MA==,,,1391691220 26245850,26249925,2014-02-06 12:54:50,"http://www.libertarianz.org.nz/policies/ >Libertarianz will have no truck with the racist xenophobia against refugees and immigrants touted by other political parties. We will accept any refugee whom anybody wishes to sponsor. We will run a completely open immigration policy subject only to a requirement that immigrants waive any claim to remaining elements of the welfare state and confirm their peaceful intentions on entry. http://www.ldp.org.au/index.php/policies/1156-immigration >The Liberal Democratic Party believes the free movement of people, within and between countries, generally contributes to greater prosperity. >Negotiate Free Immigration Agreements (FIAs) with compatible countries to allow unrestricted movement of citizens between those countries. >Like the free movement of goods and capital, the free movement of people is not only a basic human right but also contributes to economic growth by allowing the benefits of greater trade in the labour market. This trade benefits both the new immigrant and their new nation. Immigrant nations such as America, Australia, New Zealand and Canada have benefited enormously from high levels of immigration.",,Anonymous,here comes the diversity.jpg,GqV5J0UM/cxvh9+FspFu/w==,,,1391691290 26245850,26249926,2014-02-06 12:54:51,">>26249770 Anyone with an individual position is subject to scrutiny. I am an individual anarchist because I hold an individual position which is not entrenched, not established by anyone other than myself, but in the end, if I have one thing and one thing alone, it's that I actually built my own position rather than pushing someone else's. I was a pioneer. You, on the other hand, think that anyone with individual ideas is mentally ill, a liar, or a racist. How's that working out for you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691291 26245850,26249927,2014-02-06 12:54:52,">>26249821 >hey guys, I'll give you protection for a portion of your salary >no thanks Or. >hey guys, I'll give you protection for a portion of your salary >cool >i'll also spend it on lavish gifts for myself and treat you like shit >pffft, fuck off dude Feudalism ended.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391691292 26245850,26249957,2014-02-06 12:55:52,">>26249697 This is where rothbard is fucking retarded. The child is an unwilling and incapable prisoner to their parents, their parents willingly brought them into the world, and not providing for them is breaking the initiation of force. It's comparable to if you had a prisoner in a cage and you refused to feed him, the act of not feeding him would be an initiation of force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691352 26245850,26249958,2014-02-06 12:55:53,">Anarchism >still being 14",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691353 26245850,26249960,2014-02-06 12:55:58,">>26249865 >Implying my definitions are not pretty fucking universal. >Held by everyone who call's them-self a socialist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691358 26245850,26249976,2014-02-06 12:56:58,">>26249896 >>26249925 OK, you can stop fear mongering now you idiot. >>26249876",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391691418 26245850,26249987,2014-02-06 12:57:22,">>26249876 Actually cultural Marxism started in the universities and is spread by the media, and we all know how you libertarians and ancaps love private institutions. http://www.cis.org/feere/cheesecake-factory-hallmark-disney-and-others-now-pushing-amnesty http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/11/duck-dynasty-drafted-into-amnesty-campaign/ ",,Anonymous,libertarians.jpg,a8uVvOzRHhbzhSTFQ0Qncw==,,,1391691442 26245850,26250013,2014-02-06 12:58:13,">>26249827 >If you write a novel that espouses the virtues of slavery, does that mean that you, who treats everyone with respect, you that have never owned slaves, does that mean you are a 'racist'? If you want to talk about non sequiturs and emotional logic, that is a prime example right there. The idea that a person is better or worse than another based on the colour of their skin or whatever the beholder determines to be race or ethnicity is a inherently racist idea because it A) Proports the existence of race and B) Makes value judgements based on that concept. Your argument is absurd and irrelevant, please go back to hitting the bong or sniffing paint thinner or whatever it is you do when you're not pretending to be a philosopher on the internet.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691493 26245850,26250025,2014-02-06 12:58:54,">>26249987 What the fuck? Why is there a piece of bread in his shirt?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691534 26245850,26250049,2014-02-06 12:59:49,">>26249827 ""Humans are racist, ideas come from humans, ideas cannot be racist"" Are you really this incapable? >If you write a novel that espouses the virtues of slavery, does that mean that you, who treats everyone with respect, you that have never owned slaves, does that mean you are a 'racist'? Of course not. It's a classic example of emotionally based, non sequitur association of people with similar ideas. It's right in the FAQ too, I don't know why we're having this argument Slavery has nothing to do with race, why would it be racist again? You're completely incapable of formulating an actual argument.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691589 26245850,26250064,2014-02-06 13:00:17,">>26249957 This is the most common scrutiny placed upon Rothbard, even by his fellows. He wanted to prove that he was willing to make sacrifices and concessions for what he believed in, and these included the possibility of child abuse. What he was saying was and is true and right, but his particular phrasing and the structure of his argument is commonly referred to as 'edgy' nowadays, and rightfully so. He didn't have to phrase it in a way that suggests child murder.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691617 26245850,26250065,2014-02-06 13:00:19,">>26249876 Actually, cultural marxism started in the universities, and is now spread by the meida. We all know how you ancaps/libertarians love private institutions... http://www.cis.org/feere/cheesecake-factory-hallmark-disney-and-others-now-pushing-amnesty http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/11/duck-dynasty-drafted-into-amnesty-campaign/ >More than 120 major companies have signed a letter urging the GOP's House leadership to pass a major rewrite of the nation's immigration law, even though several of the companies have laid off workers in recent years. >The Sept. 10 letter to the Republican House Speaker, John Boehner, urges him ""to fix the broken immigration system and work with the Senate to ensure that a bill is signed by the President this year."" >Some of the companies that signed the letter have recently laid off thousands of Americans. Hewlett-Packard, for example, fired 29,000 people in 2012. United Technology is laying off 3,000 this year, and American Express is firing 4,500, according to a survey by the Washington Examiner. The list also include government contractors, such as Alliant Techsystems, which manufacturers weapons and ammunition for the government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691619 26245850,26250133,2014-02-06 13:02:20,">>26246036 Problem is you are still seeing through the Left-Right paradigm, which has lost all meaning to an AnCap. The reason we don't see eye to eye is that in becoming AnCap many of the mental constructs everyone accepts to define ""the world"" start to disappear- the definition of a criminal, taxation, the concept of ""countries"", left vs right. The Left/Right paradigm AnCaps see as a false dichotomy, because they recognize the one important common principle to Left and Right- both necessarily initiate force, ie: government. The idea they are the same and the importance of HOW they're the same, is hard for the non-AnCap to appreciate. To do so you have to understand the one alternative, which is logically consistent and fundamentally opposed to both- anarchy. ie: non-aggression principle. These new paradigms of aggression/non-aggression, for a new AnCap are kind of like finding out about the Matrix. The old false world with a wall between left and right, is now so meaningless we can just walk right through it...philosophically. People still believing in those walls who witness this (in political convos with us) experience philosophical glitches in their understanding of the world, which is frustrating, makes them mad at us. I know it's annoying AnCaps lump you with the rest of the Statists, but it's not personal, it's just the principles and ideas we somehow found that most others haven't. So we can't see it the same. We remember the old fake constructs, but could never believe in them again. Seeing the truth fundamentally can't be unseen. It is a one-way street. The one other option is YOU can try to see it from THIS side. I started with Rothbard.",,Anonymous,red-pill.png.jpg,4wznItATKUyhLr2oQQrXOQ==,RP,,1391691740 26245850,26250136,2014-02-06 13:02:28,">>26250049 I just told you above. Scroll up. Correlation does not imply causation. That is a false syllogism. There are quite a few people that think slavery (an idea) is racist. If you're suggesting that the idea of slavery is not racist, and also suggesting that the idea of whether an idea is racist or not is subjective and open to interpretation... Well then, you believe the same thing that I do and you've proven my argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691748 26245850,26250141,2014-02-06 13:02:39,">>26249960 >>26249569 >>Anyone who attack their ideas are attacking them personally >Narcissistic people who know nothing but talk about themselves and their liberties",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691759 26245850,26250144,2014-02-06 13:02:49,">>26249660 >just communal ownership >requires no state But it does require organized collective coercion, which is the essence of a state. How else is the ban on private property going to be enforced in an ""anarcho-socialist"" society w/o use of force by a collective apparatus (state)?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691769 26245850,26250158,2014-02-06 13:03:21,">>26249926 >You, on the other hand, think that anyone with individual ideas is mentally ill, a liar, or a racist. No, I think you're mentally ill because you're showing clear signs of delusion, magical thinking, confusion etc. You sound psychotic. Case in point, nobody at all called you racist.",,Anonymous,,,RB,,1391691801 26245850,26250184,2014-02-06 13:04:13,">>26249646 Sounds good to me. With a lot of organizing and evangelism, big, voluntary social changes do happen. I think it's best to not dismiss anything as ""pie in the sky"" or utopian, as it implies an inevitability and permanence of the current order which is illusory.",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391691853 26245850,26250193,2014-02-06 13:04:41,">>26250136 >One Idea is not racist >No Ideas can be racist Do they teach you to be a moron at stanford?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691881 26245850,26250205,2014-02-06 13:05:14,">>26249976 Every single founding father of libertarianism was open borders besides Rothbard, and only in the last five years of his life. Reason? The welfare state. As we all know, in his ideal ancap/libertarian society, there would not be a welfare state, and in this regard, every single founding father of libertarianism was open borders.",,Anonymous,libertarianism.jpg,88HOldukU9Nh4BG7zavzUg==,,,1391691914 26245850,26250213,2014-02-06 13:05:44,">>26250065 >universities aren't in bed with the government >implying most marxist professors aren't rabid statists because they get their funding from the government That's also why many scientists are ""progressives"". Anyway, its still freedom of association. There are many Christian universities and other institutions that don't buy into media propaganda. But that makes no difference because even the most vocal media pundits couldn't have effect on even a minarchist government, because there's no democracy. There's no-one there to influence.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391691944 26245850,26250219,2014-02-06 13:05:53,">>26249927 >hey guys, I'll give you protection for a portion of your salary >no thanks >How about me and my boys I kick your ass? >Would you like to fuck my daughter too, sir? >hey guys, I'll give you protection for a portion of your salary >cool >i'll also spend it on lavish gifts for myself and treat you like shit >pffft, fuck off dude >Make me. >Ok. >Well, now that I've crushed that peasent revolt, time to claim ownership of all the land and everything my serfs grow on it. Sweet.",,Anonymous,,,RB,,1391691953 26245850,26250234,2014-02-06 13:06:33,">>26250193 They didn't teach me anything; I taught them by authoring incredible thesis papers, acing tests, providing insights that may have been previously missed, and generally being amazing",,Anonymous,,,,,1391691993 26245850,26250249,2014-02-06 13:07:15,">>26250205 >dat image You have a very skewed perception of libertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692035 26245850,26250255,2014-02-06 13:07:22,lol at all the fucking internet fascists being outraged and unsympathetic to other fringe opinions. lol being a neo nazi in 2014. also all power to the market! privatize everything comrades!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1391692042 26245850,26250277,2014-02-06 13:08:15,">>26250205 There's nothing wrong with immigration without welfare. That's why most of them come here. otherwise, they'd have just as much chance of getting money in their own country. The only other reason would be because of the business freedom, which is what we want. We want people coming here and setting up business and making a go of it. Not to mention government wouldn't ""help"" immigrants, they'd have to come here on their own dime.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391692095 26245850,26250289,2014-02-06 13:08:46,"Libertarianism and White Racial Nationalism -Kevin B. MacDonald, professor of psychology at California State University, Long Beach http://www.toqonline.com/blog/libertarianism-and-white-racial-nationalism/ IGNORING THE REAL WORLD: LIBERTARIANISM AS UTOPIAN METAPHYSICS COULD WHITE ADVOCACY BE THE OUTCOME OF VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATIONS? LIBERTARIANISM FITS WITH THE EVOLUTIONARY PSYCHOLOGY OF WHITES IS LIBERTARIANISM A JEWISH INTELLECTUAL MOVEMENT? Greg Johnson, the previous editor of TOQ, had the wonderful idea for an issue on how Libertarianism intersects with issues of White racial nationalism. The topic is an important one. Unlike explicit assertions of White identity and interests, libertarianism is considered part of the conservative mainstream. It doesn't ruffle the feathers of the multicultural powers that be. Indeed, as discussed in several of the articles here-particularly the article by Simon Krejsa, libertarianism is an ideology of national dissolution that would greatly exacerbate problems resulting from immigration.",,Anonymous,libertarianism1.png,Xoi7ThdOjmto7/uKtXycLA==,,,1391692126 26245850,26250297,2014-02-06 13:09:19,">>26250234 I can't tell if this is actually the guy or someone satirizing the guy. . .",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692159 26245850,26250303,2014-02-06 13:09:31,">>26250144 let's say you live in a village where all tools are shared, the decision on when to slaughter animals is taken after discussions and so on. If you start claiming that the communal hammers are yours and you can kill 10 chickens without discussion, you might get thrown out of town. Is the village a coercive state?",,Anonymous,,,CM,,1391692171 26245850,26250314,2014-02-06 13:09:46,">>26250158 All of my ideas are logically founded and evidenced and fall under the guidelines of a constructive discussion. Meanwhile, you're assuming lunacy or fraud, avoiding constructive discussion and generally attempting to dismantle the discussion of ideas with diatribes of how anyone who thinks differently than you is some sort of nutjob. That's called paranoia, and it's commonly associated with schizophrenia - how ironic is it that your anti-logical statements actually implicate YOU as the primary offender?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692186 26245850,26250339,2014-02-06 13:10:48,">>26250158 >Gets into argument >Loses >""You must be a psycho!"" Never change, /pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692248 26245850,26250342,2014-02-06 13:10:52,">>26250277 >there's nothing wrong with immigration without welfare. Yes there is, my leftist friend. A nation must stay true to the people that built it and belong there. A nation is based off the people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692252 26245850,26250365,2014-02-06 13:11:50,">>26250158 >You sound psychotic >sound psychotic >sound can you hear him or something?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692310 26245850,26250374,2014-02-06 13:12:14,">>26250314 >>26250339 >This guy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692334 26245850,26250383,2014-02-06 13:12:44,">>26250219 >>hey guys, I'll give you protection for a portion of your salary >no thanks >How about me and my boys I kick your ass? >how about I call sundial defense and have them fuck you up? *slowly reaches for gun* Anyway, you're implying the government today can do fuck all about protection rackets. If someone came up to you in today's society and did that, you'd be just as fucked. The crime families in New York make a fucking killing on protection rackets. I'm not even ancap by the way, so I believe in a police force, but your example is dumb. Also, in the second example, if you have a problem with it, you can leave. >ownership of all the land >implying this has ever happened without a government",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391692364 26245850,26250386,2014-02-06 13:12:46,">>26250144 >How else is the ban on private property going to be enforced in an ""anarcho-socialist"" society w/o use of force by a collective apparatus (state)? What makes you think it needs to be enforced? It's my belief that in the rise of localism that would follow the demise of state, collective action and hence collective ownership would be the choice of most individuals. This can be expressed through consumer choice, I for instance preferentially shop at Co-operatives.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692366 26245850,26250389,2014-02-06 13:12:52,">>26249827 This. So much this. Get your shit together, /pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692372 26245850,26250429,2014-02-06 13:14:25,">>26249627 This is basically true, ideas can motivate people to do things but they aren't examples of racism in and of themselves",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692465 26245850,26250435,2014-02-06 13:14:33,">>26250342 >A geographical region keep the same mix of race/races that were there at a predetermined time in history >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Why",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692473 26245850,26250454,2014-02-06 13:14:54,">>26249632 >Frank Zappa >Jewish Nuh uh.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1391692494 26245850,26250460,2014-02-06 13:15:09,">>26250386 To expand I subscribe to the principle of Non-aggression and albeit slightly adjusted property rights, I just hold different beliefs about what a post state society would act like. Capitalism being fundamentally a product of the state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692509 26245850,26250491,2014-02-06 13:16:27,">>26250435 Must keep the same**",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692587 26245850,26250496,2014-02-06 13:16:48,">>26250342 >leftist Nationalist Socialism is so far left its right. Libertarianism is right. Also, you're just chatting shit. >A nation must stay true to the people that built it and belong there. Who says? You? Because there's at least 176 million people in America who think otherwise. And since they are ""the nation"", they are correct. Also, America was built by lots of people, including Jews, so they belong there in your logic. >a nation is based off the people Let me guess, unless they disagree with you personally, correct?",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391692608 26245850,26250517,2014-02-06 13:17:25,">>26250158 By the way, who, other than yourself, exactly are those signs 'clear' to? If you have evidence, use quotes and link exactly how, where, when, etc. I used anything other than logical discourse",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692645 26245850,26250560,2014-02-06 13:18:51,">>26250383 >how about I call sundial defense and have them fuck you up? *slowly reaches for gun* Except that as the most powerful paramilitary group in the region, sundial defense are the ones extorting you. Nobody is going to try to extort people in territory they don't control. >implying this has ever happened without a government Do feudal fifes, kings and and hillfort lords count as government?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692731 26245850,26250573,2014-02-06 13:19:28,">>26249770 Are you really this retarded or are you trolling?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692768 26245850,26250588,2014-02-06 13:19:59,">>26250365 >him You mean ""me"", right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692799 26245850,26250617,2014-02-06 13:21:14,">>26250588 no i mean you. are you fucking stupid?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692874 26245850,26250651,2014-02-06 13:22:33,">>26250158 You just got BLOWN THE FUCK OUT and now you're crying about mental illness, oh my god. Saved this thread, the butthurt is hilarious. Kids this is how not to act",,Anonymous,,,,,1391692953 26245850,26250671,2014-02-06 13:23:31,">>26250617 That doesn't even make sense m8e. This is what I'm talking about when I say you sound confused.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693011 26245850,26250677,2014-02-06 13:23:44,">>26250617 Yes he is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693024 26245850,26250702,2014-02-06 13:24:46,">>26250651 Are you really going to keep same fagging like this? it's cringeworthy.",,Anonymous,,,RB,,1391693086 26245850,26250714,2014-02-06 13:25:11,">>26250289 Libertarianism is actually the LEAST utopian, and the LEAST racially involved. We accept a world where bad people doing bad things is inevitable. That's not a reality we aim to change. This is actually entirely consistent with the philosophy- if people are imperfect and sometimes bad, why allow them the power of governing others? Libertarianism has no racial agenda because it's an absence of government, how the could it ever persecute or reward based on race? It's actually the opposite, the only system that removes all the means government has to steal, kidnap, and threaten for reasons related to race.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391693111 26245850,26250720,2014-02-06 13:25:29,">>26246754 You aren't correct though. I can use charcoal to make pencils and I can use basic scientific principles to make a ruler.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693129 26245850,26250722,2014-02-06 13:25:30,">>26250671 >confused >from guy who didn't read the FAQ top b8",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693130 26245850,26250749,2014-02-06 13:26:36,">>26250702 >>26250671 >Samefag crying about samefagging Thread's over; nothing to see here",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693196 26245850,26250756,2014-02-06 13:26:51,">>26250722 What are you even talking about?",,Anonymous,,,RB,,1391693211 26245850,26250791,2014-02-06 13:28:13,">>26250756 >Mention the FAQ/sticky >""What are you even talking about?"" You've just lost any inkling of credibility you might have had on /pol/ (not that anyone has any, really)",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693293 26245850,26250797,2014-02-06 13:28:25,">>26250560 You don't understand defensive advantage, so you? You need ten times the force to overcome entrenched opposition armed with rifles. Further, ancap societies don't just have mutual defense companies, they also have militias. Even further than that, when the aggressive company refuses court orders to stand down, the owners of the company become outlaws, as do those in aggressive roles in the company. They will go home to find it has been looted, and then get a sniper's bullet in the head to top it off. People don't seem to understand how dangerous people are when they aren't protected by societal norms. You might as well stick your dick in a wolverine's mouth as try to take over an ancap society. Somalia, with their imperfect implimentation based on clan affiliation (rather than free market companies), has resisted the installation of governments by numerous far more powerful militaries, and dragged the bodies of American servicemen through the streets for their trouble.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693305 26245850,26250802,2014-02-06 13:28:44,">>26250386 Co-ops and small communes exist but you can't describe them as ""anarcho-socialist"". They're not a form of anarchism because they still require strict rules to function. Disallowing voluntary trade and private ownership can only be enforced by force. How are you going to stop someone from using their ideas and labor to create useful things and trading them without enforcement?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693324 26245850,26250817,2014-02-06 13:29:22,">>26250756 your posts are bait why the fuck are you posting so much bait",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693362 26245850,26250824,2014-02-06 13:29:27,">>26250791 How is the FAQ even mildly relevant?",,Anonymous,,,RB,,1391693367 26245850,26250831,2014-02-06 13:29:35,"Must have hit a nerve to get the Statists as riled up as this. >“First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win.”",,Anonymous,statism.jpg,5OlAp9Pyp3enNIRnWoLLFA==,RP,,1391693375 26245850,26250862,2014-02-06 13:30:51,">>26250824 Shit tier bait post...",,Anonymous,trash man.png,Md51xTBZyRoht9I8UaYlHA==,,,1391693451 26245850,26250898,2014-02-06 13:32:16,">>26250184 >I think it's best to not dismiss anything as ""pie in the sky"" or utopian, as it implies an inevitability and permanence of the current order which is illusory. Mah nigga. That's a really good point actually. If the prevailing culture is arbitrary and illusory (which it is), really the sky is the limit in terms of what other kinds of societies are possible. I just think it's important not to throw the baby out with the bath water. Religions, in all their imperfection, do collect an awful amount of wisdom about the human condition and warn about things to avoid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693536 26245850,26250940,2014-02-06 13:34:01,">>26250802 >Co-ops and small communes exist but you can't describe them as ""anarcho-socialist"". Well not when they exist under the power of government they can't. >They're not a form of anarchism because they still require strict rules to function. Anarco-Capitalism is not a form of anarchism, the owner of a property decides it's prevailing rules. >Disallowing voluntary trade and private ownership Not a tenet of Anarco-Socialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693641 26245850,26250993,2014-02-06 13:36:03,">>26250797 >You need ten times the force to overcome entrenched opposition armed with rifles. FYI conventional military wisdom is that it takes a 3:1 numerical advantage to win against entrenched enemies. >Further, ancap societies don't just have mutual defense companies, they also have militias. Again, the militia is controlled by whoever has the most influence and money, this is how it has worked for all of history. >refuses court orders What part of ""anarchy"" do you not understand? >clan affiliation has resisted the installation of governments by numerous far more powerful militaries Are you seriously trying to suggest that somalia's tribal warlords are not a form of government?",,Anonymous,,,RB,,1391693763 26245850,26251034,2014-02-06 13:37:49,">>26250898 It's a good thing that we don't need religion to teach us ""Wisdoms they've collected"" Since we have books and stuff.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391693869 26245850,26251095,2014-02-06 13:40:27,">>26249203 So basically the argument against me is an appeal to nature, that humans are -naturally- empathetic and therefore don't need guidance. Gee if only it was that simple, we wouldn't need guides on parenting, unnecessary/redundant laws to dissuade and punish people from doing things they weren't ever going to do, we wouldn't need government at all. The empathy of people is conditional - ie, it doesn't survive harsh judgement of someone for a sin they've committed. That thread should tell you that - look at the way we talk to each other under the veil of anonymity! I think what you're arguing is we have some natural unconditional empathy and I simply don't buy that. If we did we would have fallen out of the trees and had a paradise human society straight away. The truth is we're always trying to fight back our worst instincts, individually and culturally.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391694027 26245850,26251127,2014-02-06 13:41:30,">>26250205 It's funny there is a trademark symbol on the Libertarian side. Goes to show just how little many critics of libertarianism actually know about it. Trademarks are enforced by The State which is a no-no. Since government is the enforcer it chooses the behalf of whom to enforce- a customer who was a victim of fraud by being sold a fake item unknowingly, or a big company Hmmmm..? Here is how libertarianism really would handle it: >Trademark law ought to be reformed by abolishing the right of trademark “owners” to sue “infringers” (except perhaps as proxy for customers, when consent can be presumed or proved), and treating this as a case of the customer’s right to sue a vendor who defrauds him as to the nature of the good purchased. Some might argue that this is only a minor change, but it is not: such a change would make it clear that “knockoffs” are usually not a violation of anyone’s rights: the buyer of a $10 “Rolex” is almost never defrauded–he knows what he’s getting. Yet by giving an enforceable trademark right to the user of a mark, he can sue knockoff companies even though their customers are not defrauded and in fact are perfectly happy to buy the knockoff products. http://archive.mises.org/9424/trademark-versus-copyright-and-patent-or-is-all-ip-evil/",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391694090 26245850,26251200,2014-02-06 13:44:04,">>26251095 >So basically the argument against me is an appeal to nature, that humans are -naturally- empathetic and therefore don't need guidance. That is not what an appeal to nature is. Guidance is gained from parenting. > look at the way we talk to each other under the veil of anonymity! With words? I don't see how anyone is even being hostile in this thread other than a few trolls.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391694244 26245850,26251251,2014-02-06 13:45:50,">>26251034 Who's going to force people to read them? I mean I'm an atheist and I haven't once picked up the Bible. Religion informs the rule of law. Its wisdom is enforced via the state apparatus. Even if religion itself is just ideas and therefore anarchist in nature, the correctness/rightness of it isn't self-evident, people won't just live by its word automatically, and I don't think it's rational to expect that either. Perhaps you could argue that if the ideas can't survive on merit and only by force that they aren't good ideas in the first place, and you'd have a point. Perhaps it's because living in accordance with a religion -sucks balls- and involves heavy self-sacrifice. The reward in it is purely spiritual/personal, there is certainly no material, rational, ""practical"" gain from abiding by laws that no-one else has to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391694350 26245850,26251370,2014-02-06 13:50:06,">>26251200 >Guidance is gained from parenting. Who guided them? And their parents before them? Do you see the problem yet? If the only guidance you have in life is your genetic line, that's a mighty fine recipe for really weird esoteric cultures developing. Which you could argue is okay, that's the nature of freedom after all. The point is the values of different tribes of people collide. They're colliding right now, between countries. Any form of anarchism merely makes these dividing lines much more localised.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391694606 26245850,26251416,2014-02-06 13:51:20,">>26251251 >Who's going to force people to read them? Children have a natural thirst for knowledge, which is destroyed by state propagandized education. Ethics/morals do not come from religion, please stop trying this bullshit argument. people help other people because the act of helping another releases dopamine, not because a priest once told them that helping people makes jesus happy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391694680 26245850,26251463,2014-02-06 13:52:46,"New thread >>26251437 >>26251437 >>26251437",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,Y751CKgXS3xkfA3a6c8Jvw==,RP,,1391694766 26245850,26251517,2014-02-06 13:54:36,">>26251370 Who guided them? And their parents before them? Do you see the problem yet? If the only guidance you have in life is your genetic line, that's a mighty fine recipe for really weird esoteric cultures developing. You have completely ruled out self determination and self betterment as a possibility, which is where your argument falls apart. If someone is raised by a moral standard that leads to suffering, on another person or on themselves, they will eventually realize the cause and effect and change that moral standard.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391694876 26245850,26251545,2014-02-06 13:55:32,"New thread here >>26251437 >>26251437 >>26251437 >>26251437",,Anonymous,rothbard2.jpg,sPaDt+qCGuCcNTfVm4pg0w==,RP,,1391694932 26245850,26251838,2014-02-06 14:03:41,">>26251416 >Children have a natural thirst for knowledge Sure, but they'll take whatever knowledge they can get, whatever they're fed will suffice, could be any old bollocks, they'll take it. They have a thirst for knowledge but poor reasoning abilities and little scepticism. I'll grant that I think parents have their childrens' interests more at heart than any school or government does, but it certainly would lead to an atomised culture of humans, less likely to coexist happily than if they were united via national and religious identity. >Ethics/morals do not come from religion, please stop trying this bullshit argument. It isn't my argument. Ethics/morals come from US, our lived experience. And what do we do with the knowledge of that lived experience? We put it into religious texts. Seriously, that's it. Religions are the echoed words of our long dead ancestors. Humans who lived, made mistakes, and died. To throw all that stuff out because it's inconvenient is really stupid and dangerous. We need to keep a record of the worst and most destructive impulses of the human race and how to cope with them, and nothing does that better than religion. Nothing to do with God either, that's just a fairytale that turns compassion from a selfless act into a self-serving act fuelled by fear of reprimand.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695421 26245850,26252000,2014-02-06 14:09:02,">>26251517 >You have completely ruled out self determination and self betterment as a possibility, which is where your argument falls apart. I haven't, I'm merely questioning what ""betterment"" is. Better for whom? The individual? But what if their idea of betterment runs contrary to another person's idea? We're just in an ocean of relativist nonsense at this point. No-one can point to anything as intrinsically right, or better, or anything. >If someone is raised by a moral standard that leads to suffering, on another person or on themselves, they will eventually realize the cause and effect and change that moral standard. Yeah, trial and error through lived human experience and passing on that information to the next generation. Got it. We call those religions. The major ones are very well developed and cover most trappings of the human condition.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695742 26251437,26251437,2014-02-06 13:51:58,"Statists continue their assault on non-aggressor libertarians here. >""As reason tells us, all are born thus naturally equal, with an equal right to their persons, so also with an equal right to their preservation . . . and every man having a property in his own person, the labour of his body and the work of his hands are properly his own, to which no one has right but himself; it will therefore follow that when he removes anything out of the state that nature has provided and left it in, he has mixed his labour with it, and joined something to it that is his own, and thereby makes it his property. . . . Thus every man having a natural right to (or being proprietor of) his own person and his own actions and labour, which we call property, it certainly follows, that no man can have a right to the person or property of another: And if every man has a right to his person and property; he has also a right to defend them . . . and so has a right of punishing all insults upon his person and property.""",AnCap General 2.0,Anonymous,ancap.jpg,Fi8WGDFibZ+j7bN3881kzg==,RP,,1391694718 26251437,26251483,2014-02-06 13:53:31,,,Anonymous,1391356923350.jpg,1UWhDNshbZwmI3zSA2Af0Q==,,,1391694811 26251437,26251512,2014-02-06 13:54:25,">As reason tells us, all are born thus naturally equal Na",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391694865 26251437,26251558,2014-02-06 13:55:55,">As reason tells us, all are born thus naturally equal Stopped reading there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391694955 26251437,26251573,2014-02-06 13:56:20,">""As reason tells us, all are born thus naturally equal You don't actually believe this,do you?",,Anonymous,1384472769810.png,942j781CRdrI669ttJRRBw==,,,1391694980 26251437,26251575,2014-02-06 13:56:25,mine mine mine !!!,It's my toy !!!1,Anonymous,1390475751196.jpg,Lfq20wYAm8is/D6f9VcKUQ==,,,1391694985 26251437,26251583,2014-02-06 13:56:40,">>26251483 penn gillette isn't an anarchist. neither was ayn rand. machiavellian people are the ultimate jew by being the lowest scheming back-stabbing faggot imaginable... gg faggot",,Anonymous,anarchists are just edgy teenagers.jpg,ZXr3gs1qZb1lazT/vqS7rQ==,,,1391695000 26251437,26251588,2014-02-06 13:56:48,">>26251512 Mind providing the double blind study showing that africans raised in the exact same environment as whites have lower IQ scores?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695008 26251437,26251604,2014-02-06 13:57:16,">>26251575 Don't worry, the free market will fix it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695036 26251437,26251620,2014-02-06 13:57:54,">>26251575 >straw-manning this hard",,Anonymous,"anarchists".jpg,ya5kwW9pU3JkBktJWC0AJw==,,,1391695074 26251437,26251622,2014-02-06 13:57:54,,,Anonymous,1391450341385.png,aOfmIa9AaNSW/yfA0ohTJA==,,,1391695074 26251437,26251678,2014-02-06 13:59:42,">>26251437 >As reason tells us What reason is this? Surely not the one that gave birth to behavioral or genetic science.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695182 26251437,26251681,2014-02-06 13:59:45,">>26251583 >Makes pic trying to prove that anarchists aren't a bunch of edgy teenagers >Includes stefan molyneux",,Anonymous,laughing-003.jpg,tFwBokTzfGlEomKwfEaImQ==,,,1391695185 26251437,26251690,2014-02-06 13:59:53,">>26251622 >calls something ""magic"" oh boy, and what economic school do you adhere to?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695193 26251437,26251716,2014-02-06 14:00:32,>>26251620,,Anonymous,1391371910026.png,HjvnoodFWlBcgx5YiNRNKQ==,,,1391695232 26251437,26251734,2014-02-06 14:00:54,">>26251681 ohhhh ok i get it. you don't like someone therefor ""ad hom"" and ""muh feelings"" are legitimate refutations. got it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695254 26251437,26251751,2014-02-06 14:01:23,">>26251573 What makes someone better, besides subjective values?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695283 26251437,26251764,2014-02-06 14:01:56,">>26251716 i lold - still doesn't disprove the original picture though",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695316 26251437,26251775,2014-02-06 14:02:09,">>26251622 and now for the uncensored quote. ""Praxeology is a theoretical and systematic, not a historical, science. Its scope is human action as such, irrespective of all environmental, accidental, and individual circumstances of the concrete acts. Its cognition is purely formal and general without reference to the material content and the particular features of the actual case. It aims at knowledge valid for all instances in which the conditions exactly correspond to those implied in its assumptions and inferences. Its statements and propositions are not derived from experience. They are, like those of logic and mathematics, a priori. They are not subject to verification or falsification on the ground of experience and facts. They are both logically and temporally antecedent to any comprehension of historical facts. They are a necessary requirement of any intellectual grasp of historical events. Without them we should not be able to see in the course of events anything else than kaleidoscopic change and chaotic muddle.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695329 26251437,26251782,2014-02-06 14:02:18,">>26251751 intelligence,might etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695338 26251437,26251796,2014-02-06 14:02:36,">>26251483 Argument via .jpg isn't going to win many points.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391695356 26251437,26251816,2014-02-06 14:03:09,">>26251588 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study I'll grant that the difference between white and nonwhite is visible, obvious, and therefore you do have an out and can say the environment's not equal. The interesting part is the comparison between children of mixed couples and children of black couples. Both have visible African ancestry and thus would be subject to the same discrimination. The mulattos have a higher average IQ.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695389 26251437,26251818,2014-02-06 14:03:10,>ancaps,,Anonymous,1391384422093.jpg,10PTVL/f/7+MhZ8XVa5ZWw==,,,1391695390 26251437,26251825,2014-02-06 14:03:21,">>26251782 Why is that better? Weak, dumb insects outnumber humans.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695401 26251437,26251852,2014-02-06 14:04:06,">>26251716 Only if the 9 year old approves. other than that, A-ok comic",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695446 26251437,26251856,2014-02-06 14:04:14,">>26251782 >might aaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaa1!!!11!!!!!!!!! can't wait to smash your head in with a tire iron and rape you. after all, that'd make me better than you, right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695454 26251437,26251885,2014-02-06 14:05:15,">>26251818 the response from an actual ancap is right below it. good job trying to shill though, too bad you're awful at it",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695515 26251437,26251900,2014-02-06 14:05:53,">>26251751 >better Not objectively better but not objectively equal, equality means death anywhere in nature.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695553 26251437,26251902,2014-02-06 14:05:55,">>26251885 >>26251852 Who's going to protect the rights of the child if not the state? >>26251856 It does make us unequal.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695555 26251437,26251912,2014-02-06 14:06:25,,,superspurs,checkmate ancaps.png,u6Vo0mK0JSiWky0YQUHHIg==,,,1391695585 26251437,26251923,2014-02-06 14:06:45,">>26251512 It is old style English. The ""thus"" was referring to the two items after ""thus naturally equal,"" >1. equal right to their persons >2. equal right to their preservation Self-ownership is a right we all have equally from birth.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391695605 26251437,26251928,2014-02-06 14:06:57,">>26251816 Most ""Transracial adoptions"" occur long after the child was born often 1 year minimum, in which time the damage can already be done. The only way you can actually say that one race is less intelligent than another is by genuine testing in laboratory conditions of white and black children being raised. It's inhumane as fuck, but that's the only way you can do it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695617 26251437,26251956,2014-02-06 14:07:46,">>26251923 >right Where does this right come from?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695666 26251437,26251973,2014-02-06 14:08:34,">>26251900 Equality is found throughout nature, from beehives to meerkat clans. If they were too unequal they wouldn't cooperate.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695714 26251437,26251995,2014-02-06 14:08:54,">>26251902 >Child is legitimately raped >Tells anyone >Immediately murders rapist If we go into an ancap world and any child needs someone to outright murder their rapists, I'm game.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695734 26251437,26252003,2014-02-06 14:09:04,">>26251818 >-277 points >the first reply claims this is false get fucked shill",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695744 26251437,26252004,2014-02-06 14:09:04,">>26251928 Until it's politically possible to run studies such as that, I'm going to go with the overwhelming conclusion pointed to by the (admittedly imperfect) data that we have.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695744 26251437,26252005,2014-02-06 14:09:06,">>26251902 >backpedaling this hard yeah, it makes me better than you according to your statement earlier actually",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695746 26251437,26252029,2014-02-06 14:09:52,,,Anonymous,typical ancap.jpg,LQOWgilwK4QWU9raqH6lXQ==,NZ,,1391695792 26251437,26252030,2014-02-06 14:09:53,">>26251973 You do realize that bees have queens,right?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695793 26251437,26252046,2014-02-06 14:10:31,">>26251912 This is incorrect, the entrance into someone else's property without their permission is the initiation of force, if someone allows you in their property, and then immediately murders you without warning, they are initiating force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695831 26251437,26252069,2014-02-06 14:11:12,">>26251818 >>26251818 >>26251818 >-277 points >ignores response below nice try ansoc",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695872 26251437,26252104,2014-02-06 14:12:17,">>26252030 Worker bees can leave. Even drones can fly away. The Queen is their slave. Chuck Palahniuk",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695937 26251437,26252105,2014-02-06 14:12:19,">>26252004 You mean the conclusions that the differences between individuals are larger on average than the differences between races? Aight.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695939 26251437,26252119,2014-02-06 14:12:40,">>26251995 Why would you murder the rapist? It has nothing to do with you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391695960 26251437,26252132,2014-02-06 14:13:08,">>26251558 >>26251573 See: >>26251923 Jeez, you guys are really out for blood looking for the first flaw you think you've come across. Take arguments in their entirety before you jump on what you believe to be a huge idiotic mistake. You're not going to find things like that, you underestimate how serious libertarians take this shit.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391695988 26251437,26252152,2014-02-06 14:13:43,">>26252104 And ancaps can leave and move to somalia.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696023 26251437,26252161,2014-02-06 14:13:52,">>26251973 Next question: is that nature or nurture? I ask because maybe as humans we are limited by the human condition itself, we are just animals constantly trying to escape this fact. Perhaps some system of achieving equality is beyond us and we need to spend some generations evolving in that direction first. Like we need to evolve out of our egotistical natures.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696032 26251437,26252171,2014-02-06 14:14:15,">>26252152 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QDv4sYwjO0",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696055 26251437,26252186,2014-02-06 14:14:47,">>26252119 >Initiated the use of force >Is now an outlaw >Letting child rapists live",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696087 26251437,26252230,2014-02-06 14:16:08,">>26252105 >the differences between individuals are larger on average than the differences between races Clarify what you mean here. Which specific differences are you talking about? Are you taking into account mixing, or just using what the individual identifies as?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696168 26251437,26252242,2014-02-06 14:16:25,">>26252152 >Failed communist state >ancap Why do people still say this?",,Anonymous,1387309472239.jpg,wQLXXQkXzaxD2ee6hhbGjw==,,,1391696185 26251437,26252288,2014-02-06 14:17:50,">>26252152 you forgot to ask who will build to roads",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696270 26251437,26252403,2014-02-06 14:20:59,">>26252230 intelligence, ease of building muscle, creative potential. all the general things that eugenics would breed for.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696459 26251437,26252405,2014-02-06 14:21:04,">>26252230 >It is estimated that approximately 0.4 percent of the genomes of unrelated people differ, apart from copy number. When copy-number variation is included, human-to-human genetic variation is estimated to be at least 0.5 percent. >The greatest genetic distance between two continents is between Africa and Oceania, at 0.2470. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696464 26251437,26252472,2014-02-06 14:23:12,">>26252403 Too much ""intelligence"" is a disability. Autism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696592 26251437,26252499,2014-02-06 14:24:06,">>26252105 >Lewontin's fallacy",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696646 26251437,26252540,2014-02-06 14:25:31,">>26252105 >In the 2007 paper ""Genetic Similarities Within and Between Human Populations"",[20] Witherspoon et al. attempt to answer the question, ""How often is a pair of individuals from one population genetically more dissimilar than two individuals chosen from two different populations?"". The answer depends on the number of polymorphisms used to define that dissimilarity, and the populations being compared. When they analysed three geographically distinct populations (European, African and East Asian) and measured genetic similarity over many thousands of loci, the answer to their question was ""never"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696731 26251437,26252548,2014-02-06 14:25:40,">>26252242 >b-but it's not a true libertarian society!",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696740 26251437,26252616,2014-02-06 14:27:29,">>26252242 >no government >why isn't capitalism flourishing",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696849 26251437,26252624,2014-02-06 14:27:40,">>26252472 autism is not ""Too much intelligence"" autism is a lack of emotional awareness, brought on by a lack of an emotional anchor in a parent. >Lewontin's fallacy I never argued that the races do not exist. I stated that the differences between individuals are greater than the differences of between races",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696860 26251437,26252655,2014-02-06 14:28:35,">>26252472 christ you're fucking stupid. how do you remember to breathe?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696915 26251437,26252680,2014-02-06 14:29:24,">>26252624 >autism is a lack of emotional awareness Emotional intelligence, now the value isn't just intelligence but how the intelligence is applied.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391696964 26251437,26252720,2014-02-06 14:30:49,">>26252655 Strike a nerve?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697049 26251437,26252726,2014-02-06 14:30:56,">>26252548 It even a false libertarian society. >>26252616 >No government Pic related",,Anonymous,Somali political situation.png,9qnq93AofZO4sc05iPW8lg==,,,1391697056 26251437,26252760,2014-02-06 14:32:09,">>26252720 yes actually it did - if you believe there is such a thing as too much intelligence you honestly deserve to be laughed at and mocked in public",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697129 26251437,26252780,2014-02-06 14:32:44,">>26252726 it isn't even* I'm fucking tired.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697164 26251437,26252798,2014-02-06 14:33:15,">>26252760 Have you never heard of savants that can't care for themselves?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697195 26251437,26252826,2014-02-06 14:34:13,">>26252680 there is no such thing as ""Emotional intelligence"" It is either being aware of your own emotions, or being unaware. There is no ""Intelligence"" about it, the very word ""Intelligence"" cannot even be applied to emotions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697253 26251437,26252827,2014-02-06 14:34:14,">>26252798 ... are you fucking serious? that's a disability you fucking idiot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697254 26251437,26252896,2014-02-06 14:36:39,">>26252826 An emotion that clashes with your reason, an emotion that you cannot explain or control, is only the carcass of that stale thinking which you forbade your mind to revise. Ayn Rand",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697399 26251437,26252917,2014-02-06 14:37:25,">2014 >Not being an individualist-anarchist",,Anonymous,1361571178496.png,DF9qgeYDhx76K+5+c8sD9Q==,,,1391697445 26251437,26252977,2014-02-06 14:39:24,">>26252896 that seems pretty much in line with my statement.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697564 26251437,26252985,2014-02-06 14:39:29,">>26252827 Savants can have photographic memories and do complex calculations without a machine. What was intelligence becomes a disability if it is myopic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697569 26251437,26253051,2014-02-06 14:41:49,">>26252985 So then it is a lack of brain function in a certain area, not overall too much intelligence. Once again, a disability, not ""Too much smartypants""",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697709 26251437,26253058,2014-02-06 14:42:03,">>26252977 Man has no choice about his capacity to feel that something is good for him or evil, but what he will consider good or evil, what will give him joy or pain, what he will love or hate, desire or fear, depends on his standard of value. If he chooses irrational values, he switches his emotional mechanism from the role of his guardian to the role of his destroyer. The irrational is the impossible; it is that which contradicts the facts of reality; facts cannot be altered by a wish, but they can destroy the wisher. If a man desires and pursues contradictions—if he wants to have his cake and eat it, too—he disintegrates his consciousness; he turns his inner life into a civil war of blind forces engaged in dark, incoherent, pointless, meaningless conflicts (which, incidentally, is the inner state of most people today). Ayn Rand",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697723 26251437,26253128,2014-02-06 14:43:59,">>26253058 Fuck me harder you motherfucker! Ayn Rand Strong women need dicks too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697839 26251437,26253215,2014-02-06 14:46:28,">>26253051 You're defining intelligence so broadly it has no meaning. Remembering every detail of a map is intelligence by any estimation, but now you criticize them for being unbalanced. The value isn't intelligence, but balance. The criteria you selected for your eugenics program have already proven simple and shallow, because people are complicated. Which is why eugenics doesn't work, it is oversimplification.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391697988 26251437,26253219,2014-02-06 14:46:31,">>26253128 wot",,Anonymous,ginger baker.jpg,B/q7uF7rIR8ntRSkG1mDgA==,,,1391697991 26251437,26253250,2014-02-06 14:47:43,">>26253215 >Arguing against eugenics When did I say eugenics was a good Idea?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698063 26251437,26253306,2014-02-06 14:49:33,>>26253058,,Anonymous,ayn rand faggots.jpg,Rqsc9zfYpfIrH+sdNfMaQA==,NZ,,1391698173 26251437,26253336,2014-02-06 14:50:26,">>26252917 >I want the world to be a giant fucking chimpout.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698226 26251437,26253406,2014-02-06 14:52:43,">>26253336 Statist scum",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698363 26251437,26253451,2014-02-06 14:53:53,">>26253306 >Muh edgy At least try to have a socio/economic theory instead of just saying ""Hitler and deportation of niggers/jews will solve everything"" whenever anyone questions you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698433 26251437,26253507,2014-02-06 14:55:46,">>26253451 >Natsocs don't have a socio-economic theory",,Anonymous,blank-011.png,b01Da9rYLk34eV+eLWe9RA==,,,1391698546 26251437,26253544,2014-02-06 14:56:52,">>26251483 >Artists are government, instead of being people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698612 26251437,26253574,2014-02-06 14:57:52,">>26253507 I sure as fuck don't see one being presented.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698672 26251437,26253578,2014-02-06 14:58:00,">>26253544 Good job missing the point.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698680 26251437,26253690,2014-02-06 15:01:01,">>26253507 They do. It's the same one trans-autistic bi-pony SJWs have (minus them not killing all the minorities). After all, both of you are hardcore Keynesians who hold identical views on the actual mechanisms of how economics works.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698861 26251437,26253705,2014-02-06 15:01:23,">>26252029 Best you can do is an ad-hominem.jpg?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391698883 26251437,26253720,2014-02-06 15:01:46,">>26253451 Unbelievable. It's like your head is in the ground or you're trolling. http://krystallnacht.com/lib/ http://wvfoundations.org/id25.html http://www.vanguardnewsnetwork.com/v1/index205.htm http://archive.org/details/MeinKampf_483 https://archive.org/details/RodneyMartin-TheEconomicPlanOfTheNsdap",,Anonymous,hitler duty.jpg,MqUK8D8CjTdFxP7UB83VxA==,NZ,,1391698906 26251437,26253771,2014-02-06 15:03:25,">>26252616 Somalia has been doing much better since the government years. Living conditions have been improving steadily.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699005 26251437,26253811,2014-02-06 15:04:54,">>26253720 So then what this guy said? >>26253690 That's not really a socioeconomic theory, it's just pseudo intellectual garbage. as is usual of natsocs",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699094 26251437,26253843,2014-02-06 15:05:57,">>26253336 I'm sure other people would stop your chimping pretty quickly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699157 26251437,26253884,2014-02-06 15:06:56,">>26253811 >it's just pseudo intellectual garbage. Said the andcap",,Anonymous,1391122268018.gif,qGWN9dFbSJwfHeL51v5Z6w==,,,1391699216 26251437,26253916,2014-02-06 15:07:52,">>26253578 Then please by all means explain your point to me.",,Anonymous,1353543429103.jpg,4g9C4RQRXhb4QZYo1QORhQ==,,,1391699272 26251437,26253966,2014-02-06 15:09:23,">>26253916 Only under the protection of a sovereign entity will civilization flourish.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699363 26251437,26254003,2014-02-06 15:10:35,">>26253966 [Citation needed]",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699435 26251437,26254027,2014-02-06 15:11:06,">>26253811 Sack up little faggot.",,Anonymous,hitler store.jpg,WcJ+Ykq6afUP7WN2aWuKKw==,NZ,,1391699466 26251437,26254057,2014-02-06 15:11:43,">>26254003 Point me to the nearest anarchist civilization pls.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699503 26251437,26254106,2014-02-06 15:13:01,">>26254027 >>26253884 neither of these tardasses realize that the only reason the german economy recovered is because hitler ordered money to be secretly printed out the ass and secretly injected into the economy to give the illusion of economic growth.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699581 26251437,26254135,2014-02-06 15:13:39,">>26254057 You'll need a time machine, circa 13,000 BC.",,Anonymous,anarchists.gif,du4t9RpjCXaEusR4T6rZIw==,NZ,,1391699619 26251437,26254153,2014-02-06 15:14:08,">>26254057 Argumentum ad populum Try again",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699648 26251437,26254169,2014-02-06 15:14:42,">>26254106 >>26253781",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391699682 26251437,26254211,2014-02-06 15:15:49,">>26254153 Maybe you should try building a glorious anarchist civilization n free of ""oppression"" in somalia.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699749 26251437,26254213,2014-02-06 15:15:53,">>26254169 >That's not really a socioeconomic theory, it's just pseudo intellectual garbage. as is usual of natsocs",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699753 26251437,26254223,2014-02-06 15:16:16,">>26253843 You mean other chimps. Who are in turn behaving like chimps and being out chimped and stopped from chimping by other chimps who spend their lives being hopelessly enslaved to all their stupid material chimp desires. In all seriousness, a lot of effort is put into culturally conditioning citizens in a society. It's done for a reason - yes so we can be pliant puppets for our masters, but it's also so we can all get along peacefully with eachother and work off of the same basic moral assumptions. Anarchism of whichever flavour wants to destroy that - because it's illegitimate, sure, but if what replaces it is just shit flinging, masturbation and dildos then I don't see that it's a better or more moral society just because use of coercion has been removed and ""muh freedom."" Freedom must be accompanied by enlightenment. (arguably they're the same thing.)",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699776 26251437,26254226,2014-02-06 15:16:18,">>26254153 That's not ad populum.",,Anonymous,laughing elves.jpg,bcVaziXVPmlrcUXHy3YyhQ==,NZ,,1391699778 26251437,26254232,2014-02-06 15:16:25,">>26254106 Not to mention the ""jobs"" were a result of massive military spending rather than domestic programs. Entire house of cards relied on gobbling up resources en masse, so war were declared on everyone",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699785 26251437,26254251,2014-02-06 15:16:55,">>26254211 see >>26252726 Try again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699815 26251437,26254255,2014-02-06 15:17:05,">>26254213 Only communists and anarchists can be this retarded.",,Anonymous,retard fucking shit.jpg,NE0sV1fQmhdwsNaFiIKhZA==,,,1391699825 26251437,26254270,2014-02-06 15:17:23,>>26254153,,Anonymous,1383163708887.gif,PweJscq7pUym2wDR4dNV7Q==,,,1391699843 26251437,26254283,2014-02-06 15:17:53,"Hitler's specific brand of natsoc had a pretty lenient view towards free markets. Hitler understood that to make germany strong he needed to cut Germany's dependancy of international banking interests, also to allow the private sector do it's thing and create prosperity. Hell, even Germany's enemies called it ""the German"" miracle. Though it was no miracle, it was merely freeing of the markets to a great degree. Hitler only used government intervention on businesses if they directly contradicted the ""national"" or ""people's"" interests, on paper at least. But anyway I'm sure that hitler planned reverting to market controlling if/when he had won the war. Freeing the markets propably was just means to an end for him, but it clearly showed that free markets (unregulated people's supply and demand) create prosperity. I'm an ancap btw.",,Anonymous,1385432856271.jpg,lmiOwp2j18BYXUCpSHUKWQ==,,,1391699873 26251437,26254292,2014-02-06 15:18:08,">>26254232 Military didn't increase until 1938, full military economy didn't begin until after Stalingrad (1943) - all long after the economy was already fixed. Try again champ.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391699888 26251437,26254305,2014-02-06 15:18:28,">>26254226 ""All governments are doing it therefor it is right"" This is argumentum ad populum",,Anonymous,,,,,1391699908 26251437,26254355,2014-02-06 15:20:00,">>26254305 That's not what he asked. He asked you to show him an anarchist civilization. The reason you can't do it is because even tribes in animal skins aren't anarchists.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391700000 26251437,26254364,2014-02-06 15:20:16,">>26254305 >States are the only entities that have ever led to a civilization FTFY",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700016 26251437,26254406,2014-02-06 15:21:07,">>26253966 What stops private people from being sovereign entities with networks of business/legal/protection contracts? >inb4 what enforces such contracts? the contractual networks do.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700067 26251437,26254441,2014-02-06 15:22:05,">>26254355 ""all of the peoples of the world live in statist societies, therefor statist societies are the best"" This was his argument, it is an argumentum ad populum fallacy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700125 26251437,26254463,2014-02-06 15:22:30,">>26254211 >Somalia over and over every day There are literally more posts in every ancap thread from anti-ancaps posting the same tired strawmen in these smug shallow hit-and-run comments than from ancaps themselves. What do you faggots believe that makes you so hostile to ancaps? All you do is criticize without bothering to understand the details of what you're criticizing in the slightest and you never propose any alternatives of your own.",,Anonymous,1391307731953.jpg,rExKKkvkE2MHUbnJkr4AIQ==,,,1391700150 26251437,26254476,2014-02-06 15:23:09,">>26254364 ""Slavery is the only method of production that has ever lead a society""-Anon 1750",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700189 26251437,26254478,2014-02-06 15:23:09,">>26254441 >""all of the peoples of the world live in statist societies, therefor statist societies are the best"" >Point me to the nearest anarchist civilization pls. One of these things is not like the other.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391700189 26251437,26254487,2014-02-06 15:23:25,Laissez Faire capitalist rollin' in,,Anonymous,thomas alexander scott.png,qoCJHDdDKETnN3aZbgmHGQ==,,,1391700205 26251437,26254493,2014-02-06 15:23:39,">>26254463 King George was right. s",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700219 26251437,26254516,2014-02-06 15:24:12,">>26254478 You are a fucking moron.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700252 26251437,26254542,2014-02-06 15:24:53,>>26254516,,Anonymous,pot-kettle.jpg,yT0S6No/Nk1DQtDwOzuSnA==,NZ,,1391700293 26251437,26254550,2014-02-06 15:25:04,">>26254223 So you are saying that you need government (just some other people) to tell you, at gunpoint, what is moral and what is not. Also you seem to be so insecure of your own morals that you also want government (other people again) to enforce your specific norms on other people?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700304 26251437,26254571,2014-02-06 15:25:45,">>26254478 Re read that a couple of times, maybe you can understand the correlation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700345 26251437,26254589,2014-02-06 15:26:12,The free market will fix it,,Anonymous,triangle shirtwaist factory fire.jpg,c3+ZADueYA8dMhQNeQRa+Q==,,,1391700372 26251437,26254593,2014-02-06 15:26:14,">>26254516 Why are ancap threads so hilarious?",,Anonymous,1381528155774.jpg,eE+Na4ocr+8/p3CaZm/a8A==,,,1391700374 26251437,26254652,2014-02-06 15:27:59,">>26254593 SILENCE STATIST SCUM",,Anonymous,wealth.jpg,+EYIuoarRZa/8dQAjButcw==,,,1391700479 26251437,26254678,2014-02-06 15:28:44,">>26254478 Let's go through this shall we ""LOL SHOW ME AN ANARCHIST CIVILIZATION"" ""There aren't any"" ""LOL STATIST SOCIETIES ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN EXIST BECAUSE NO ANARCHIST SOCIETY CURRENTLY EXISTS"" Argu-fucking-mentum ad-Motherfucking-populum Have you gotten it through your thick skull yet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700524 26251437,26254687,2014-02-06 15:28:56,">lumping communists in with anarchists At least communists have a state!",,Anonymous,1389809809525.jpg,Uj3RWarCYxtX9U8AkNnT6A==,NZ,,1391700536 26251437,26254723,2014-02-06 15:29:51,">>26254493 Answer my question, fuckface. Why do you shit up our threads every single time with your stupid repetitive garbage no matter how many times it's refuted? What do YOU believe in?",,Anonymous,1391304623031.jpg,+KdqUjIYTeMbHYGaGfhVFA==,,,1391700591 26251437,26254727,2014-02-06 15:30:01,">>26254355 >tribes in animal skins aren't anarchists. Not sure if serious. Not sure if ansoc. (because tribes have hierarchy) At any rate, you should propably read up on what anarchy is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700601 26251437,26254736,2014-02-06 15:30:14,">>26254687 Well technically they're all socialist states trying to achieve stateless communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700614 26251437,26254740,2014-02-06 15:30:18,">>26254571 He didn't even specify a time period. One could even try and reach back into history and try to pull out an anarchist civilization. Although none seem to exist as far as I know. They were probably too busy having sex, stepping all over each other, and killing each other to write anything down.",,Anonymous,anar-liber.jpg,lLKsLEDLf9Zh6an3yGqd4g==,NZ,,1391700618 26251437,26254749,2014-02-06 15:30:32,"Look at all of these pathetic statists, arguing for their masters to whip them so that they work faster. You are all pathetic.",,Anonymous,,,PR,,1391700632 26251437,26254750,2014-02-06 15:30:32,">>26254687 Isn't the end-goal of communism a stateless society?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700632 26251437,26254788,2014-02-06 15:31:34,">>26254740 All anarchist civilizations were invaded by outside forces, it being an argumentum ad populum fallacy still stands.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700694 26251437,26254791,2014-02-06 15:31:42,">>26254727 As soon as a hierarchy is realized it ceases to be anarchism because there is clear leadership and follwers. Anarchism, like Marxism, treads on the delusions that everyone is equal.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391700702 26251437,26254794,2014-02-06 15:31:49,">>26254749 >Look at all of these pathetic capitalists, arguing for their masters to whip them so that they work faster. FTFY",,Anonymous,pretty coal guys.jpg,aG8GwbaGPze/8TSMqvPa3Q==,,,1391700709 26251437,26254795,2014-02-06 15:31:49,>>26254687,,Anonymous,1383324393515.jpg,L3zW/JflCFJsyrI07JdyfQ==,CM,,1391700709 26251437,26254797,2014-02-06 15:31:50,Isn't ancap just a deluded utopian ideology?,,Anonymous,,,,,1391700710 26251437,26254804,2014-02-06 15:31:59,">>26254723 >Why do you shit up our threads every single time with your stupid repetitive garbage no matter how many times it's refuted? Why do you care,I'm not violating the NAP. >What do YOU believe in Civilization",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700719 26251437,26254827,2014-02-06 15:32:51,">>26254797 TIME FOR A SONG It's about preachers, but I think it applies to anclap ideologues as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycu38kYDtIg",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700771 26251437,26254828,2014-02-06 15:32:52,">>26254797 Pretty much.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391700772 26251437,26254832,2014-02-06 15:33:02,">>26254788 >All anarchist civilizations Such as?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700782 26251437,26254845,2014-02-06 15:33:28,">>26254364 Just because it historically has not happened means nothing. And for every one of these civilizations there is evidence they existed not because of government but in spite of it. Lastly it is only government, and not even the sum total of every individual and voluntary group, that has destroyed, murdered and threatened not just the most life and property but the survival of the human species itself. Quite literally we will likely go extinct as a result of this thing called government.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391700808 26251437,26254856,2014-02-06 15:33:50,">>26254678 >""LOL STATIST SOCIETIES ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN EXIST BECAUSE NO ANARCHIST SOCIETY CURRENTLY EXISTS"" A shame he never said such thing. It however proves, that you anarcho-retards would have to prove and come with very fine and clear arguments as to why we would benefit from anarchism at all. Which you can't. Which makes this thread hilarious, sort of like a creationist thread.",,Anonymous,,,KP,,1391700830 26251437,26254885,2014-02-06 15:34:32,No man is an island,,Anonymous,,,,,1391700872 26251437,26254901,2014-02-06 15:34:51,">>26254788 That's still not ad populum, and at least you admit how inferior it is. Apparently it was conquered by a semi-organized pack of farmers. Although you don't even mention what those civilizations are. Apparently their place in history magically disappeared when they did.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391700891 26251437,26254945,2014-02-06 15:36:26,">>26254832 The paris collective, the free territory, shinmin autonomous region, Revolutionary catalonia, anarchist aragon.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391700986 26251437,26254953,2014-02-06 15:36:42,">>26251437 Don't make the mistake of thinking libertarians and ano caps are the same thing",,Anonymous,,,BL,,1391701002 26251437,26254957,2014-02-06 15:36:46,">>26254687 >mfw",,Anonymous,molotov ribbentrop.jpg,Cr3vnvFMwae0O5ns57HCpA==,,,1391701006 26251437,26255004,2014-02-06 15:38:05,">>26254856 >A shame he never said such thing. It was the only logical end to his statements. > would have to prove and come with very fine and clear arguments as to why we would benefit from anarchism at all. Learn what a free market is, I'm not repeating the exact same arguments that have been said 30 times in this thread and the last one.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701085 26251437,26255046,2014-02-06 15:39:13,">>26254953 Plenty of libertarians are just ancaps mislabeling themselves though",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701153 26251437,26255053,2014-02-06 15:39:26,">>26254550 >Also you seem to be so insecure of your own morals that you also want government (other people again) to enforce your specific norms on other people? Will answer this bit first. I'm a libertarian. I don't happily entertain the idea of any authority, but I see that authority is inevitable where humans fail to manage their worst and most destructive impulses, attitudes and behaviours, which is more likely to happen due to an absence of moral guidance. The only way anyone knows how to create a moral society is by the imposition of absolute moral principles. As for specific norms, well, any culture anywhere has those, that's what makes it a culture and a society. If everyone has different standards of morality, it ceases to be a community, it breaks apart, which is assumedly the goal of anarchism - to leave people to be who they want. That's a great idea in theory, but what happens when people disagree on the most fundamental moral assumptions, such as whether killing is wrong? What if some group chooses not to observe the NAP, which is itself a religious principle? >So you are saying that you need government (just some other people) to tell you, at gunpoint, what is moral and what is not. Ideally not government. The left-wing tend to put all their faith in democracy and the will of the people, not knowing that the thoughts, beliefs and moral code of those people will always be on a Fabian drift via the whims of fashion, unless its anchored by state religion. But yes, if you want your principles to be held universally, you need to make sure that people learn about them and why they're important, and you need to make sure they're upheld by law. Even the NAP requires force to uphold; kind of a contradiction really.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701166 26251437,26255058,2014-02-06 15:39:34,">>26255004 No thanks, I'm not a deluded creationist idiot ;)",,Anonymous,,,KP,,1391701174 26251437,26255060,2014-02-06 15:39:37,">>26254740 The early period of the Internet, the American West, particularly gold rush era California, Colonial Pennsylvania, medieval Iceland and Ireland (most of medieval Europe barely had anything resembling a state under the modern definition), primordial Germanic civilization - all of these were effectively stateless societies. Modern ancap theory only goes back a few decades and it's still unknown to most of the world. There's never yet been a consciously founded stateless society as far as I can tell. So our philosophy remains untried, although there are things very similar to it that have existed and been stable for centuries.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701177 26251437,26255075,2014-02-06 15:40:06,">>26251437 I'd be on board with you guys, save that I can't side with the Non Aggression principle for a simple reason: A passive ideology will always give way to an aggressive ideology. Any ideology that does not adopt non-aggression as a tenet, indeed any ideology that adopts aggression as a primary feature, will always beat the non-aggressive ideologies.",,Anonymous,lady-bane-2.jpg,cVGtCJ61k2GL8oto401img==,,,1391701206 26251437,26255100,2014-02-06 15:40:51,">>26255004 >the free market will fix it! This is why no one takes you seriously.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701251 26251437,26255113,2014-02-06 15:41:20,">>26255058 > I'm not a deluded creationist idiot That's a nice strawman, I'm an atheist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701280 26251437,26255133,2014-02-06 15:41:57,">>26254736 That's the theory. Except for that little problem where you've expanded the government to astronomical proportions that it's so unwieldy and unaccountable that the tyrant running the show is basically a false prophet capable of anything and unwilling to yield power. Commies gonna commie. I'm not even sure a lack of hierarchy would be sustainable anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701317 26251437,26255146,2014-02-06 15:42:21,">>26255100 There has never been a single instance where a free market failed.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701341 26251437,26255162,2014-02-06 15:42:44,">>26255100 Lobertarians and ancaps are die-hard proto-marxist materialists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701364 26251437,26255163,2014-02-06 15:42:46,">>26254945 >paris collective Looks like an art organization. >free territory An attempt that failed. >shinmin autonomous region Another failure. >Revolutionary catalonia, aragon Another failure. All of these lasted like 3 years.",,Anonymous,the end of any ancap thread.jpg,sqXoQ8jDR6EwTAGPBtZz6Q==,NZ,,1391701366 26251437,26255174,2014-02-06 15:43:18,">>26254804 You're just here to criticize without sharing your own beliefs, and your criticisms show nothing but your own ignorance of the subject. You're like some hipster telling everyone their favorite band sucks but never letting anyone know what he likes, or an autistic kid yelling 'stop liking what I don't like!' Kindly fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701398 26251437,26255185,2014-02-06 15:43:42,">>26255113 No you're not, you just believe in the infallible deity called 'the free market'.",,Anonymous,1380521411012.png,rkOC0cM+TPl5nWGLkbv2kg==,KP,,1391701422 26251437,26255192,2014-02-06 15:43:48,">>26255163 And none of them were civilizations",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701428 26251437,26255210,2014-02-06 15:44:11,">>26255075 NAP is not a passive ideology, it simply submits not to initiate force, if someone initiates force against you you are essentially given an open pass to defend yourself in any way you see fit.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701451 26251437,26255211,2014-02-06 15:44:17,">>26255060 Those are as ancap as communism was stateless.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391701457 26251437,26255215,2014-02-06 15:44:26,">>26255146 >there has never been a single instance of a free market Alternatively: Great Depression, 1890s depression Also, what is your definition of ""failed""",,Anonymous,desperation.jpg,tNEZ5o9e9qJi2IJ1QYhSfw==,,,1391701466 26251437,26255253,2014-02-06 15:45:36,">>26255146 That's because there's never been a free market",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701536 26251437,26255291,2014-02-06 15:46:35,">>26255163 All of which were attacked by outside forces. It's almost exactly what I said. Let's look at national socialism >Nazi germany Failure, 60,000,000 deaths caused Sure gotta love that natsoc",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701595 26251437,26255296,2014-02-06 15:46:43,">>26255146 It is failing every few years with recessions and influx of third worlders. >inb4 no real scotsman",,Anonymous,,,KP,,1391701603 26251437,26255328,2014-02-06 15:47:57,">>26255211 Congratulations on making it to the middle of the pyramid! This is maybe a first for anti-ancaps who rarely go above the first couple of steps.",,Anonymous,1372966148239.jpg,yeGz7oAqQB4wkzQrSmQYBw==,,,1391701677 26251437,26255336,2014-02-06 15:48:13,">>26255215 The great depression was caused by the monetary policies of the federal reserve, as was the 1890's depression. Not the free market. >>26255253 This too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701693 26251437,26255339,2014-02-06 15:48:17,">>26255296 THATS NOT TRUE FREE MARKET CAPITALISM",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701697 26251437,26255362,2014-02-06 15:49:15,">>26255291 Yeah, by half the world (all statist) in six years with massive casualties and luck. >moving the goalposts to take the heat off anarchoshitism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701755 26251437,26255368,2014-02-06 15:49:24,">>26255210 Then it does nothing, it is simply support of the concept of self defense.",,Anonymous,join up.jpg,TEy6IObEIVI4PCQdHtF0mw==,,,1391701764 26251437,26255389,2014-02-06 15:50:12,">>26255339 Every market crash can be explicitly linked to government intervention. And no, there has never been a truly free market for the last 10,000 years.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701812 26251437,26255397,2014-02-06 15:50:26,">>26255291 What gives you the impression that they were self-sustaining? And WW2 was a premeditated global effort to trounce the NSDAP economy and German people into submission. Economic war, first and foremost.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391701826 26251437,26255410,2014-02-06 15:50:48,">>26251437 >quotes Locke >doesn't realize that Locke rejects the non-aggressor principle, and not just because it's retarded",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701848 26251437,26255411,2014-02-06 15:50:48,">>26255210 But in a stateless society, who is giving this open pass? What authority is this? More to the point, how is the NAP being upheld at all if there is no authority to uphold it? I could choose not to observe it, and if I have superior resources to you, you wouldn't be able to do much about it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701848 26251437,26255433,2014-02-06 15:51:21,">>26255368 And what is your reasoning in favor of the initiation of force?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701881 26251437,26255437,2014-02-06 15:51:24,">>26255389 >wanting a true freemarket Enjoy your massive thirdworld immigration",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701884 26251437,26255457,2014-02-06 15:52:12,>>26255328,,Anonymous,1388165931823.jpg,H78fd24GwXivK6tD2W4klQ==,,,1391701932 26251437,26255467,2014-02-06 15:52:33,">>26254749 And you should go to sleep, shill.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701953 26251437,26255475,2014-02-06 15:52:52,">>26255433 coercion goes beyond force It is the ""I'm not touching you"" of oppression.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391701972 26251437,26255502,2014-02-06 15:53:38,">>26255362 There's an excellent example today of national socialism, and it's North Korea. If you look at what they actually believe their policies of autarky, militarism and racial purity make them perhaps the ultimate national socialist state. Why don't you go to North Korea if that's the kind of state you want to live under?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702018 26251437,26255516,2014-02-06 15:53:55,">>26255210 But then you will always be the target of force. You're just sitting there, waiting for someone to initiate force against you. The longer you wait, the more powerful your rivals will become. This is terminally passive.",,Anonymous,1378690862986.jpg,xFmTcP1sLQ8GXNVFaZ9URA==,,,1391702035 26251437,26255517,2014-02-06 15:53:57,">>26255389 Because it would be an absolute disaster.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391702037 26251437,26255528,2014-02-06 15:54:21,">>26255411 >More to the point, how is the NAP being upheld at all if there is no authority to uphold it? Authority is in the hands of the people. Governance by, for, and of the people, but for real, not just a platitude in documents and speeches.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391702061 26251437,26255530,2014-02-06 15:54:25,">>26254589 In AnCap, shit can still happen (not that that was anything close to an example ofa free market) With government, not only does shit still happen it is systematically and on a massive scale. 50+ million murderes in the 20th century.",,Anonymous,tumblr_lyoe4oR3zt1r3qmkpo1_500.png,/YHRwAnMp+/YU/mWYLTgwg==,RP,,1391702065 26251437,26255533,2014-02-06 15:54:33,">>26255397 And WW2 was a premeditated global effort to trounce the NSDAP economy and German people into submission. Right, that's why poland invaded. >But in a stateless society, who is giving this open pass? What authority is this? More to the point, how is the NAP being upheld at all if there is no authority to uphold it? In a stateless society everyone would already understand the non aggression principle, no one needs to give an open pass, there is no authority. If you have superior resources to me, I would raise a reactionary force, call my private protection agency(Supposing I invested in one) and take up arms against you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702073 26251437,26255534,2014-02-06 15:54:33,">>26255457 top fucking lel",,Anonymous,766546545.jpg,YbERIFb16CsOxN8x2KyEvA==,NZ,,1391702073 26251437,26255606,2014-02-06 15:56:58,">>26255502 Next time before opening your mouth, educate yourself. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche >Political religion. Also the funny part is, it has lasted longer and had more succes than any anarchist society ever has/will ;)",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702218 26251437,26255610,2014-02-06 15:57:02,">>26255530 lol if you don't think the wealthy wouldn't fight wars or equivalent in the absence of government",,Anonymous,warsaracket.jpg,O52B0tYElAQPG6Nd2G1ASA==,,,1391702222 26251437,26255613,2014-02-06 15:57:11,">>26255533 >If you have superior resources to me, I would raise a reactionary force, call my private protection agency(Supposing I invested in one) and take up arms against you. Ancaps actually want to revert mankind back to it's natural state of eternal war. I'll just stick with statism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702231 26251437,26255620,2014-02-06 15:57:26,">>26255437 Good. >>26255475 Coercion is promising an initiation of force, so it can be considered the same as an outright initiation of force. >>26255516 >The longer you wait the more powerful your rivals will become Did we move to DBZ land again? >>26255517 [citation needed]",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702246 26251437,26255658,2014-02-06 15:58:40,">>26255620 >Good. This is why no one is a retarded anarchist kid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702320 26251437,26255677,2014-02-06 15:59:07,">>26255620 >massive third world immigration >good",,Anonymous,1390941269942.png,3BFHoplR7dD84lR0IWdVRg==,,,1391702347 26251437,26255687,2014-02-06 15:59:34,">Implying humanity can advance without uniting itself for a bigger goal Ancap is great for the individual, but impossibilitates the evolution of the species as a whole. To be honest, I don't think any of these two lines of thought are ""wrong"". They simply conflict against eacother by their very nature.",,Anonymous,1389807940310.png,nMJFUoTL+iduWW7knpWPtg==,,,1391702374 26251437,26255695,2014-02-06 15:59:52,">>26255613 >Eternal war If by eternal war you mean the odd sociopath deciding to try and fuck shit up and getting beat the fuck down, sure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702392 26251437,26255703,2014-02-06 16:00:19,">>26255533 >Right, that's why poland invaded. I don't want to derail the thread. If you want to understand the Polish invasion: Consider part of the US being given to Mexico, and those displaced Americans were being brutalized by Mexicans that refused to accept peace offerings thanks to Canada's coercing them to continue. With tens of thousands being killed, America finally invades its own territory. Do you hold America at fault? >In a stateless society everyone would already understand the non aggression principle, no one needs to give an open pass, there is no authority. This is akin to Marxist delusions of equality and everyone just magically agreeing. Good luck achieving this in a non-homogeneous, nation-wide scale. >If you have superior resources to me, I would raise a reactionary force, call my private protection agency(Supposing I invested in one) and take up arms against you. That would happen, yes. It would be fighting for resources like natives fighting over buffaloes.",,Anonymous,german-polish relations.jpg,kGLsa5Yn+ubF1SHS1oPJwA==,NZ,,1391702419 26251437,26255726,2014-02-06 16:01:02,">>26255677 >>26255658 >People move to the country >Create business Why is this bad?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702462 26251437,26255736,2014-02-06 16:01:24,">>26255695 No I think he means eternal war >. Private planes were hired to drop homemade bombs on the miners. A combination of gas and explosive bombs left over from the fighting in World War I were dropped in several locations near the towns of Jeffery, Sharples and Blair. At least one did not explode and was recovered by the miners",,Anonymous,bombing strikers.jpg,3E1RGjHcFPL1+HT7WH4HYA==,,,1391702484 26251437,26255737,2014-02-06 16:01:27,">>26255620 Deluded bullshitter to the max I see, much worse than communists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702487 26251437,26255749,2014-02-06 16:01:49,">>26255726 >Camp of the saints.txt",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702509 26251437,26255769,2014-02-06 16:02:25,">>26255411 >how do people resolve disputes without states You don't know much about history if you're asking that question. Look backwards to the institutions the state evolved from. Common law courts were originally voluntary institutions with nothing to do with the state. City governments grew out of medieval communes which were very much voluntary organizations in the beginning. Before that, kinship relations were what protected every man - look at the system surrounding weregild and blood feuds, for example. And feudal relations between lords and vassals were voluntary protection arrangements much like ancaps advocate - when kings started taking over absolute power it was seen at the time as a revolutionary imposition of tyranny in violation to ancient law and the rights of free men, and that's exactly what it was. The Hobbesian war of all against all idea is simply contrary to historical fact. Stateless societies existed through much of human history and the modern state really only came into being and became preeminent toward the end of the medieval period.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702545 26251437,26255785,2014-02-06 16:03:01,">>26255703 >Consider part of the US being given to Mexico, and those displaced Americans were being brutalized by Mexicans that refused to accept peace offerings thanks to Canada's coercing them to continue. With tens of thousands being killed, America finally invades its own territory. Danzig democratically seceded from nazi germany. >that would happen, yes. It would be fighting for resources like natives fighting over buffaloes. Only with psychopaths like you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702581 26251437,26255793,2014-02-06 16:03:20,">>26255620 >>The longer you wait the more powerful your rivals will become >Did we move to DBZ land again? >people only hurt other people in cartoons And we're done here. If you don't think it's a cold hard reality that groups of people will plot and conspire among one another to knock you off your NAP high horse, you're lethally mistaken.",,Anonymous,breakyou.jpg,YLsVNCaOstOk17MAaWjr2A==,,,1391702600 26251437,26255831,2014-02-06 16:04:30,">>26255687 Govt extermination campaigns suggest not only will we fail to evolve under govt but we won't survive it either.",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391702670 26251437,26255851,2014-02-06 16:05:02,">>26255793 >If you think that not everyone is deliberately out to view everyone else in the world as an enemy they must obliterate, you are a fool And you are a fucking sociopath, that's what private police is for.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702702 26251437,26255861,2014-02-06 16:05:17,">>26255785 >Danzig democratically seceded from nazi germany. No it didn't. What the fuck am I reading. >Only with psychopaths like you. No, this is just reality. If you want go ahead and massacre all the ""psychos"", Bolshevik.",,Anonymous,bromberg.jpg,cX555Bk6Tj4RYaQSh7rMvQ==,NZ,,1391702717 26251437,26255873,2014-02-06 16:05:37,">>26255793 People also claim that businesses will not conspire to screw over workers, even though they totally have. Hell, Steve Jobs and Google drove down their engineer's wages by agreeing to not try to hire one another's employees as they lowered wages. Then the ancap says ""ONE OF THEM WILL TOTALLY BREAK THE DEAL, I'M SURE OF IT! PROBLEM SOLVED!""",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702737 26251437,26255883,2014-02-06 16:06:02,">>26255726 Maybe people don't want to destroy their country, culture, and people. The exact reason we have states. You have lost your survival instincts essentially, and your right to live with it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702762 26251437,26255897,2014-02-06 16:06:27,">>26255726 I wonder.",,Anonymous,cultural enrichment train.jpg,jEpnpOXlIXO0lzQK3azGBg==,NZ,,1391702787 26251437,26255913,2014-02-06 16:07:02,">>26255861 >Massacre all the psychos That will happen naturally when you attempt to bring back your caveman feudalist ideals at the barrel of a gun.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702822 26251437,26255926,2014-02-06 16:07:25,">>26255851 >guy says that people will try to fuck you over and/or kill you if allowed to >call him a sociopath >PRIVATE POLICE hahahahahahahaahhaahahhahaha Private police belong to whoever has most money. Man breaks NAP to get more money by fucking people over, hires the private police.",,Anonymous,mercs shooting strikers.jpg,cboEeVtA4Zkh4WN9aff4nw==,,,1391702845 26251437,26255931,2014-02-06 16:07:40,">>26255883 >You have lost your survival instincts essentially",,Anonymous,at last I truly see.png,Q1kKGY2pO8Cb9OytlJjZJA==,NZ,,1391702860 26251437,26255934,2014-02-06 16:07:42,">>26255053 >Will answer this bit first. I'm a libertarian. I don't happily entertain the idea of any authority, but I see that authority is inevitable where humans fail to manage their worst and most destructive impulses, attitudes and behaviours, which is more likely to happen due to an absence of moral guidance. >The only way anyone knows how to create a moral society is by the imposition of absolute moral principles. >As for specific norms, well, any culture anywhere has those, that's what makes it a culture and a society. If everyone has different standards of morality, it ceases to be a community, it breaks apart, which is assumedly the goal of anarchism - to leave people to be who they want. That's a great idea in theory, but what happens when people disagree on the most fundamental moral assumptions, such as whether killing is wrong? What if some group chooses not to observe the NAP, which is itself a religious principle? The goal of anarchism is definitely not to break community, but to organize it without the use of violence/coercion. But you just reinforced the mechanics how a society can be peaceful, if other people start wrecking stuff up then they will break away from the peaceful community, who in turn will defend themselves and not deal with their violent neighbours. And I don't see a very bright future for the violent folk in this scenario.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702862 26251437,26255954,2014-02-06 16:08:26,">>26255606 >North Korea isn't really NS >juche isn't just warmed-over NS ideas Nice no true Scotsman. >North Korea is successful! If North Korea is successful by your standards, maybe there's something wrong with your standards. >medieval Iceland had no state for centuries >North Korea would have been crushed in under a decade if not for international Communism propping it up >it only hasn't starved to death today because of food aid from the West Pretty hilarious.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702906 26251437,26255975,2014-02-06 16:09:10,">>26255926 Private police belong to whoever has most money. The same can be said of public police",,Anonymous,,,,,1391702950 26251437,26256009,2014-02-06 16:10:17,">>26255528 >Authority is in the hands of the people. Governance by, for, and of the people, but for real, not just a platitude in documents and speeches. That's a nice idea but it rather suggests that ""the people"" is a hivemind. As we've seen, there's anarchists on the left that entirely reject the NAP and reject ANY kind of imbalance of power/inequality, with which an-caps would see nothing wrong. People don't agree on shit - even non-violence seemingly. The NAP is a self-defeating principle because it requires violence to uphold and have any real power. Not all people will voluntarily observe it, least of all those with the most power who don't -have- to, because might is right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703017 26251437,26256046,2014-02-06 16:11:27,">people fought for labor rights with tooth and nail >countless people died at hands of their employers till governments stepped in and created regulations HEI GUIES, LETS ABOLISH ALL LAWS PROTECTING WORKERS If work has taught me anything, it's always better to work for the government than a private employer, baring few, very few rare cases.",,Anonymous,1390861158628.jpg,8E1RyaWMYWMav7d382AeRQ==,,,1391703087 26251437,26256048,2014-02-06 16:11:33,">>26255769 Interesting stuff, thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703093 26251437,26256063,2014-02-06 16:12:21,">>26255954 >Nice no true Scotsman. Too bad that if you read right there, you'd see it's their own hybrid of communism and nationalism at the same time. No where does it mention national-socialism and it's considered more of a religion than political ideology. >succesful North Korea is more succesful than any anarchist society is or has been. >food aid from the west Newsflash; the West has trade embargo's against them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703141 26251437,26256088,2014-02-06 16:13:09,">>26256046 >>countless people died at hands of their employers till unions stepped in and held strikes FTFY",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703189 26251437,26256115,2014-02-06 16:14:11,">>26255975 Yes but that's more of an argument against the mass accumulation of wealth in a society with a state (democratic socialism ftw) than public police. Historically, the wealthy have used both.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703251 26251437,26256123,2014-02-06 16:14:36,">>26255913 Your ideals are fantasy, much like Communism. You're duped into believing a fairy-tale narrative that has no basis in human nature. It would be a disaster on the scale of the USSR, only even worse, because at least the Soviets developed tanks and managed to send people into space.",,Anonymous,,,NZ,,1391703276 26251437,26256170,2014-02-06 16:16:22,">>26255873 >Apple and Google as examples of free market evils and failure Apple and Google hold more government enforced intellectual property rights and patents than all others combined. Success by employing theft-funded govt thugs with guns to threaten away competitors and potential competitors for a de facto govt sponsored monopoly is NOT a trait of a free market or anything remotely close to one.",,Anonymous,1391302319660.jpg,daojNy5RSWWwBoS1hpIqmQ==,RP,,1391703382 26251437,26256185,2014-02-06 16:16:56,">>26256088 The strikers died at the hands of their employers as well.",,Anonymous,workers rights and all that jazz.jpg,crSsNLNHM7WuLVQvanxtsA==,,,1391703416 26251437,26256202,2014-02-06 16:17:38,">Oy vey,the evil state won't allow me to sell my children,does the depravity of the state know no bounds?",,Anonymous,url.jpe.jpg,+Y7JFqG0nxotoYt/oTyp2g==,,,1391703458 26251437,26256210,2014-02-06 16:17:49,">>26256088 People where fucking murdered and abused just by thinking they'll form unions you god dam nigger.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703469 26251437,26256237,2014-02-06 16:18:32,">>26256170 Shut the fuck up about IP. What of company did it does not matter. It is irrelevant to the fact that two businesses collaborated to drive down wages of employees",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703512 26251437,26256247,2014-02-06 16:18:43,">>26256115 Wealth accumulation is much more difficult in an anarchist society than any sort of state. . It's just impossible for a large corporate structure to operate without government help such as copyright, trademarks, regulations, licensing etc.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703523 26251437,26256274,2014-02-06 16:19:35,">>26255934 >The goal of anarchism is definitely not to break community, but to organize it without the use of violence/coercion. But you just reinforced the mechanics how a society can be peaceful, if other people start wrecking stuff up then they will break away from the peaceful community, who in turn will defend themselves and not deal with their violent neighbours. And I don't see a very bright future for the violent folk in this scenario. The problem is without a coherent universal morality, these kinds of disagreements with people wrecking shit are going to be common place. The problem with freedom is that people are free! They self-determine, keep to their own kind, and ultimately that leads to a very pluralist society in the long term, possibly a Feudal system with a lot of different esoteric cults and traditions. There will always be a power vacuum in society. I think it's in this area where an-caps drop the ball a bit and an-coms are more consistent in recognising that power itself is a threat and must constantly be resisted to create a truly anarchist society where the big guys cannot control the little guys. (not that I think an egalitarian society is a bright idea either)",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703575 26251437,26256294,2014-02-06 16:20:08,">>26256210 RIP Frank Little http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0zVuy0m66E",,Anonymous,frank.jpg,m1LBTFihOFv9NPoxkpAByA==,,,1391703608 26251437,26256312,2014-02-06 16:20:42,">>26256210 >>26256185 And due to the modern invention of the motherfucking internet any of that action would blacklist those corporations so fast they'd be bankrupt within a year.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703642 26251437,26256323,2014-02-06 16:21:00,">>26256202 >In Rothbard's view of parenthood, ""the parent should not have a legal obligation to feed, clothe, or educate his children, since such obligations would entail positive acts coerced upon the parent and depriving the parent of his rights.""[101] Thus, Rothbard stated that parents should have the legal right to let any infant die by starvation. However, according to Rothbard, ""the purely free society will have a flourishing free market in children"". In a fully libertarian society, he wrote, ""the existence of a free baby market will bring such 'neglect' down to a minimum"".",,Anonymous,wat-053.jpg,gzYWDrgo6je+bGinvaoYgQ==,,,1391703660 26251437,26256327,2014-02-06 16:21:10,">>26256247 Resources (LAND for instance) are finite, vertical monopolies will be back in style.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703670 26251437,26256357,2014-02-06 16:22:33,">>26256323 Disgusting.",,Anonymous,1388519926189.jpg,uHSQiYaSb9HwIh0FWgfvTQ==,NZ,,1391703753 26251437,26256382,2014-02-06 16:23:21,">>26256237 >Shut the fuck up about the reason why they can do what they do That's some nice cognitive dissonance, mind if I can get a taste? >>26256312 Dispute resolution organizations, they're pretty cool.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703801 26251437,26256386,2014-02-06 16:23:25,"All the property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it. - Benjamin Franklin (""Father of American Capitalism""), letter to Robert Morris, December 25, 1783",,Anonymous,ChildFactoryPoster.jpg,YIoqEEnJMQD2LBptv8z3zA==,,,1391703805 26251437,26256409,2014-02-06 16:24:01,">>26256357 DISGUSTING STATIST,IF I WANT TO STARVE MY CHILD TO DEATH THAT SHOULD BE MY CHOICE MUH NAP MUH NAP MUH NAP",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703841 26251437,26256434,2014-02-06 16:25:20,">>26256312 Oh yeah man just like how people successfully boycott companies all the time today. In the face of marketing firms and misinformation campaigns, along with public apathy, it is wishful thinking that people will suddenly up and decide to boycott sweatshops/blood mines/child labor. That's not even getting into the fact that some companies are so large that boycotting them would be effectively impossible without going innawoods and just building a house out of twigs.",,Anonymous,hes got the whole world in his hands.jpg,o8Mp0UZiHyChBrsH0OA2SA==,,,1391703920 26251437,26256466,2014-02-06 16:26:20,">>26256323 And not a single one of rothbard's contemporaries agreed with him, Shill harder. >>26256327 >Vertical monopoly >Cheaper products How is this a bad thing? Also, all monopolies eventually die in the free market, Carnegie steel was dying when the government split it up, as was standard oil.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391703980 26251437,26256501,2014-02-06 16:27:40,">>26256466 >And not a single one of rothbard's contemporaries agreed with him Stupid statist scum,I wonder why they hate the freemarket.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704060 26251437,26256519,2014-02-06 16:28:16,">>26256434 >Oh yeah man just like how people successfully boycott companies all the time today. You mean the companies that have state enforced monopolies, and can stay in power due to heavy regulation and taxation arbitrated in their favor?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704096 26251437,26256544,2014-02-06 16:28:59,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VucczIg98Gw,,Anonymous,,,,,1391704139 26251437,26256550,2014-02-06 16:29:32,">>26256323 >that out of context quote He's basically talking about just a for-profit adoption service and giving people an incentive to give up their children to childless couples if they can't or won't take care of them. Meanwhile, today, the state will take even wanted, loved children away from people and give them to the foster care system where they are commonly abused.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704172 26251437,26256557,2014-02-06 16:29:46,">>26256466 >>Vertical monopoly >How is this a bad thing? >Carnegie steel was dying when the government split it up Except that never happened, he sold it to JP Morgan and when the gov tried to break that conglomerate up in 1911 they failed",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704186 26251437,26256598,2014-02-06 16:31:13,">>26256519 Even today such a boycott is theoretically possible, but it doesn't happen.",,Anonymous,Moneybags.png,cxWhEvFniMZy8dZHYpiyKg==,,,1391704273 26251437,26256601,2014-02-06 16:31:20,">>26256501 Probably because rothbard's interpretation of the NAP was faulty. If you willingly bring a child into existence and do not feed it you are violating the non initiation of force. For example say you locked a man in an iron cage, and then refused to feed him, the act of refusing to feed him while his survival is based on your direct care is an initiation of force, because you put him in that situation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704280 26251437,26256638,2014-02-06 16:32:38,">>26256550 > for-profit adoption service Yeah nothing could go wrong there >will take even wanted, loved children away from people Drug addicts are diseased and unfit to parent, abusive parents are, well, yeah.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704358 26251437,26256676,2014-02-06 16:34:17,">>26256557 >Except that never happened, Oh right, I forgot, because it's not a true monopoly. Kek >>26256598 Theoretically doesn't mean shit when you have 30 government enforced IP's and no one can compete with you due to licensing, regulation and taxation.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704457 26251437,26256707,2014-02-06 16:35:24,"Riddle me this, wannabe-moneybags motherfuckers, how would anarcho-clapitalism social mobility from being stifled by workers being widely paid low wages with rent held high or simply paid in scrip, which is only valid in the company store?",,Anonymous,pullman strike.jpg,1+VdpMpqrloXzW1Y4d721g==,,,1391704524 26251437,26256738,2014-02-06 16:36:31,">>26254135 >13000 b.c. i'm always the one to bring these up, but i don't mind - smashing a socialist faggot makes me happy >old ireland >the not so wild west >the free cities of europe >old iceland >max, nebraska https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-v1Ta_il94 i grasp that the last example is kind of a stretch, but it's certainly indicative of anarchism if you want to argue, at least get your facts straight, faggot",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704591 26251437,26256768,2014-02-06 16:37:34,">>26256707 why would you work for a place that makes you shop in their stores? i think that answers your question, retard",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704654 26251437,26256799,2014-02-06 16:38:28,">>26256707 >how would anarcho-clapitalism social mobility from being stifled by workers being widely paid low wages >how would anarcho-clapitalism social mobility What. . . do you mean ""how would anarcho-clapitalism stop social mobility from being stifled by workers being widely paid low wages""?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704708 26251437,26256810,2014-02-06 16:38:52,">>26256768 >Implying you'll have a choice",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704732 26251437,26256831,2014-02-06 16:39:27,">>26256768 >why would you work for a place that makes you shop in their stores? Lack of alternatives/contract shenanigans, you know, the same reasons people used to do it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfu2A0ezq0",,Anonymous,coal kids club.jpg,Bko65u0dszwtQHVi25WGQA==,,,1391704767 26251437,26256850,2014-02-06 16:39:52,">>26256810 >implying you won't jesus christ kid... do you enjoy being laughed at by strangers on the internet?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704792 26251437,26256873,2014-02-06 16:40:30,">>26256799 Yes it was a typo",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704830 26251437,26256875,2014-02-06 16:40:31,">>26256810 So what, every employer on the face of the planet will instantly make you work for their own money, and no one will decide to start a competitive business? Your ""Free market hellhole"" is more fantasy than communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704831 26251437,26256891,2014-02-06 16:40:55,">>26256831 there wouldn't be a lack of alternatives, the homesteading principle proves this, you faggots just can't seem to grasp it",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704855 26251437,26256915,2014-02-06 16:41:27,">>26256323 Rothbard's mistake is that he fails to see that bringing children into the world is a coercive act, since you are imposing life on them. You have a responsibility to---up to a point---provide for the well-being of that person. LOL JUST KIDDING I'M A FEMINIST ;^) MY BODY MY CHOICE FAGGOTS A REAL MAN LETS HIS WIFE MURDER HIS BABIES",,Anonymous,1375850328361.jpg,jk6W3jCxGi0LKxJFlSl8DQ==,,,1391704887 26251437,26256949,2014-02-06 16:42:41,">>26256891 How the fuck does the homestead principle prevent this? Furthermore, land is finite, what happens when all the land is claimed, ""perfect free market space utopia""?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391704961 26251437,26256985,2014-02-06 16:43:33,">>26256274 The one thing I havew learned from history is that decentralization leads to more greater economic and political freedom, which is the real point of anarchy. I'm sure we both agree that sociaetal structures should be as decentralized as possible but only to the point that there will be necessary security that human beings need. But the thing is that some people prefer more safety, while some don't care and that people should be allowed to choose this for themselves. And the laws of supply and demand dictate that if there is demand for greater safety, even without a state, someone will be ready to supply it. I shun government politically and economically because I don't believe in one size fits all solutions, they tend to create as much friction as they try to remove from society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705013 26251437,26256992,2014-02-06 16:43:48,">>26256875 Employers don't need infinite employees and a high turnover rate is good for (the employer of) unskilled labor",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705028 26251437,26257001,2014-02-06 16:44:03,">>26256949 The free market will fix it by making more land.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705043 26251437,26257051,2014-02-06 16:45:51,">>26256601 Eh, I think the subject is debatable. If you don't prevent someone under your care from running away or making other arrangements for their care do you still have that obligation? What rights does the child have? The state arbitrarily says the child is basically a slave until age 18, which is a terrible solution IMO. Rothbard's position is that everyone is born free and therefore ultimately responsible for their own care. I think clearly it's immoral to fail in your responsibility to your children but is it AGGRESSION against them? I don't think so. Meanwhile the state will come between parents and children that want to remain living with each other and prevent them from seeing each other. They do it for the most high-minded of reasons, but that IS in fact aggression. >>26256638 >a non-profit adoption service is somehow better than a for-profit adoption service because of reasons >the state is never wrong when it kidnaps children from their families",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705151 26251437,26257067,2014-02-06 16:46:24,">>26256949 You failed do answer a single criticism with a response. 1. Why would anyone work for a company that has such terrible terms in it's contracts 2. Why would every company abide by the same contractual agreements 3. Why would no business compete with real currency wages against these companies",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705184 26251437,26257075,2014-02-06 16:46:40,">>26256949 no one is goign to be able to own ALL THE FUCKING LAND YOU IDIOT. the less of something there is, the more it costs. furthermore, it prevents that scenario from happening by allowing the individual to not even participate in the economy if they choose not to >don't feel like working for a wage >build house >plant garden >harvest garden >hunt for food pretty fucking simple, actually",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705200 26251437,26257114,2014-02-06 16:48:01,">>26256915 If having children is coercive, then by the NAP it shouldn't be allowed in the first place. I think you may have an error in your premises.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705281 26251437,26257116,2014-02-06 16:48:04,">>26257075 No ONE may be able to, but that's not the point I was getting at.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705284 26251437,26257126,2014-02-06 16:48:22,">>26257051 my argument about the non initiation of force, really only applies until around age 9 or 10 when it can be reasonably certain that someone could provide for themselves(Although anyone who would kick their kid out of their house at that age is a fucking scumbag) And i wouldn't doubt that in this supposed state there would be plenty of charities and orphanages for children where this actually happened to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705302 26251437,26257163,2014-02-06 16:49:24,">>26257116 ""It can't happen"" ""THAT'S NOT THE POINT"" It is, actually.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705364 26251437,26257211,2014-02-06 16:50:44,">>26257163 >6+ billion people on the planet >capitalism relies on concept of perpetual growth of business >implying all habitable land will not be claimed by individuals or businesses",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705444 26251437,26257219,2014-02-06 16:51:11,"How's that foster care system working out? And all that compulsory parenthood? The US govt operated adoption system is so fucked up the waiting list to adopters is 500,000 and the waiting list of adoptees is 400,000. Most people who want to adopt want an infant, but since that demand is not allowed to translate into any incentive to the parent, so they keep the kid until realizing it isnt possible and it ends up in foster care. How is it any different from adoption?",,Anonymous,,,RP,,1391705471 26251437,26257273,2014-02-06 16:52:51,">>26257211 It will be claimed by individuals, but not a single individual, and that's all that would present an actual problem. Let's go through this scenerio *All land is now in private hands of the people of the world* *Land is traded freely* Is there something I'm missing here?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705571 26251437,26257297,2014-02-06 16:53:48,">>26257116 ... are you even trying?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705628 26251437,26257327,2014-02-06 16:54:35,">>26257273 yeah all the people who don't have land will be placed at a disadvantage from those who do",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705675 26251437,26257330,2014-02-06 16:54:39,">>26257126 See libertarians are all about there not being artificial rules because they're too autistic to see that socially they define themselves according to their relationships and that co-reliance is the natural state, which is why they ultimately have to make the most artificial rules (""One is an 'adult' at 9 or 10!"") Or we could all agree that we're in a society together and try to give it equality under the law and equality of opportunity. But nooo we have to stay back and argue whether you can raise a child or use money or tax because some people refuse to read a political science book and say ""oh yeah, that makes sense, I can act like someone who was born after 1800 AD because my nice society that I'm a part of gave me the education to understand why some things work."" The thing is it's not even a natural state libertarians want to return to because cavemen were all about their families and tribes. It's a new ""zero starting point"" they want that never existed anywhere and is impossible.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705679 26251437,26257333,2014-02-06 16:54:41,">>26257273 >don't like it, go elsewhere >everywhere is shit >don't try to change things, that's tyranny",,Anonymous,1389294497013.png,cKgq1jq5LLUFj8wwLxnfqQ==,,,1391705681 26251437,26257353,2014-02-06 16:55:32,">>26255210 >if someone initiates force against you you are essentially given an open pass to defend yourself in any way you see fit. >10 year old from Country A throws a rock through the embassy window of Country B >Country B proceeds to exterminate every last man, woman, and child in Country A Sounds reasonable.",,Anonymous,1383198138277.jpg,S7SX9t44m+92G10GcGlgJQ==,,,1391705732 26251437,26257376,2014-02-06 16:56:15,">>26257333 lol @ market theologists",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705775 26251437,26257383,2014-02-06 16:56:20,">>26257327 and the same can't be said of the current statist society? >>26257333 Yeah, I'm sure everywhere will be somehow more shit, with the complete lack of taxes and voluntary transaction instead. >>26257353 >Countries are not people",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705780 26251437,26257426,2014-02-06 16:57:51,">>26257126 Is someone who takes a sum of money in exchange for letting someone else adopt a child he can't take care of aggressing against the child, or even a bad person? If a kid just persistently runs away and refuses to listen to you as soon as he's old enough to walk is it your responsibility to keep him caged up against his will until he's capable of living independently or would it be all right to just let him go? How do you determine the age at which someone is no longer a child under parental authority but a person deserving of full rights as an individual? I don't think you can do this in a non-arbitrary way unless you say they are never free of parental authority or they are free from parental authority (and therefore responsibility) from day one. Clearly the position that you are your parents' property forever is awful and so you're only left with one principled position.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705871 26251437,26257431,2014-02-06 16:58:19,">>26257383 >and the same can't be said of the current statist society? do you seriously think there are only two options -- yours and the status quo?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705899 26251437,26257432,2014-02-06 16:58:18,">>26257383 >taxes are the only thing keeping people down >all transactions are 100% voluntary and mutually beneficial",,Anonymous,they both laugh at you.jpg,5RjgBSynWUWcXbOXaPX7hw==,,,1391705898 26251437,26257448,2014-02-06 16:58:48,">>26257273 first of all you're implying that everyone wants to own their own house. if you truly believe this then you are either a basement-dwelling permavirgin, or are still in community college. second, as something becomes more scarece, it's value goes up, there isn't enough money in the world to own all the land, retard. third, you are completely forgetting about voluntary communal housing, large groups of people living together, etc fifth, you aren't even addressing sea-steading",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705928 26251437,26257484,2014-02-06 16:59:51,">>26257426 clearly the only choice is to enact slavery",,Anonymous,,,,,1391705991 26251437,26257592,2014-02-06 17:03:13,">>26257484 It's statists who have the position that children are the property of their parents (unless they displease the state, at which point they become state property). Rothbard is literally defending the right to absolute self-ownership for all people of all ages and you're claiming this is a defense of slavery? I think you have misunderstood something somewhere.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706193 26251437,26257609,2014-02-06 17:03:33,">>26257431 >Muh communism Have fun with that, it's worked so well so far. >>>26257426 >Is someone who takes a sum of money in exchange for letting someone else adopt a child he can't take care of aggressing against the child, or even a bad person? You're going to have to restate this sentence, It's not the best one you've ever written. >If a kid just persistently runs away and refuses to listen to you as soon as he's old enough to walk is it your responsibility to keep him caged up against his will until he's capable of living independently or would it be all right to just let him go? If this is the case, you fucked up big time as a parent, but yes, in this situation you have to let him go, preferably after teaching him/her how to survive. >How do you determine the age at which someone is no longer a child under parental authority but a person deserving of full rights as an individual? I don't think you can do this in a non-arbitrary way unless you say they are never free of parental authority or they are free from parental authority (and therefore responsibility) from day one. Clearly the position that you are your parents' property forever is awful and so you're only left with one principled position. Whenever the child wishes >>26257432 Voluntary transactions by their very definition are mutually beneficial, else they would not be voluntary. to leave. .",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706213 26251437,26257661,2014-02-06 17:05:17,">>26257609 >Whenever the child wishes 3 sentences later >to leave. . . >God damnit 4chin",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706317 26251437,26257712,2014-02-06 17:06:48,">>26257609 >communism you don't understand communism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706408 26251437,26257740,2014-02-06 17:07:55,">>26257712 apparently neither did the millions of ukrainians that starved to death due to a state-produced famine. if only they would have understood it!!",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706475 26251437,26257800,2014-02-06 17:09:53,">>26257740 communism is identified as lacking a state how can the state exist and it still be called communism??",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706593 26251437,26257833,2014-02-06 17:10:58,">>26257800 >But it wasn't communism because it was only the first stage of communism And that's as far as it will ever get. .",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706658 26251437,26257842,2014-02-06 17:11:07,">>26257800 because all of you are exactly like this faggot. it's still a state",,Anonymous,chomsky douchebag.jpg,JbYfK4zpkRM9ESy7ZDx4tA==,,,1391706667 26251437,26257855,2014-02-06 17:11:30,">>26257609 I was trying to imply that it was not aggressing against the child (or even wrong) to let them be adopted by someone else (even if you are compensated for this) if you can't or don't want to take care of them any longer. And in fact it's much worse (though also not aggressing against the child) to let them die because you couldn't take care of them properly.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706690 26251437,26257876,2014-02-06 17:12:04,">>26257833 you don't understand communism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706724 26251437,26257887,2014-02-06 17:12:33,">>26257855 Well of course, but then you're shifting the responsibility onto the person you give the child to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706753 26251437,26257930,2014-02-06 17:14:12,">>26257876 I do actually. >Violent revolution >Workers state/dictatorship of the proletariat ????? >Freedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706852 26251437,26257982,2014-02-06 17:15:39,">>26257930 but that's wrong, that's leninism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391706939 26251437,26258019,2014-02-06 17:16:41,">>26257330 >Confusing libertarian with anarchist Why the fuck does this always happen? Are you people really this disingenuous, or are you just illiterate? I don't want to live in the Road Warrior, alright? It's merely my opinion that a freer society is generally better than a more restrictive one. I just want to be able to go about my business without having to worry constantly about govt. intervention in affairs which are no concern to them. If I want to buy and drink raw milk, let that be my business. I want to be able to raise my children without the fear of CPS kidnapping them over an unprovable accusation. I want to be allowed to grow food in my own backyard without having to buy a farming permit. I don't want the EPA telling me what sort of lightbulb I ought to be using. I want to be allowed my God given right to defend myself from an attacker, and I want my privacy to be respected. When I die, I want what little wealth I've accumulated---wealth that's already been taxed---to go to my children because I love them. I don't want half of it taken and given to a bunch of lazy troglodytes and paperwork departments. Is this all so fucking unreasonable? I like my freedom, and I like interacting with other free people. I'm not looking to hurt anyone or force anyone to do anything. I want all my interactions with people to be mutually voluntary. But I realize not everyone is like that, so I'm happy that we have laws for those people. And I'm perfectly willing to pay the salaries of soldiers and police officers who will swear to protect that freedom. AND YES, I WILL EVEN PAY FOR THE FUCKING ROADS.",,Anonymous,1379479474811.gif,Qm3p6RxPG+gTgFg6VO/lgA==,,,1391707001 26251437,26258061,2014-02-06 17:17:29,">>26257982 Oh, sorry. I meant >?????????????????????????? >?????????????????????????? >Freedom",,Anonymous,,,,,1391707049 26251437,26258091,2014-02-06 17:18:33,">>26258019 all anarchists ARE libertarians, but not all libertarians are anarchists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,,,1391707113 26251437,26258142,2014-02-06 17:20:06,">>26258091 >all anarchists ARE libertarians",,Anonymous,1391118048001.png,GLf5LNP+kHQ0S8yJVgbBkQ==,,,1391707206 26251437,26258187,2014-02-06 17:21:14,">>26257383 >Countries are not people Right, countries are just big plots of land with flags strewn about.",,Anonymous,1390499505747.jpg,4YUrf+QSSuJ9eEbQxAuoMQ==,,,1391707274 26251437,26258294,2014-02-06 17:23:52,">>26258187 >Missing the point this hard The country itself does not exist, it is made up of people who do what they wish because they believe the concept of the country exists. The country itself is not a singular person, therefor the NAP does not apply. Saying ""Citizen from country A shoots citizen from country B and now country B can slaughter every citizen from country A"" Is a complete twisting of words.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391707432 26251437,26258313,2014-02-06 17:24:18,">>26258142 >libertarianism >any political position that advocates a radical redistribution of power from the coercive state to voluntary associations of free individuals What kind of anarchist is not a libertarian?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391707458 26251437,26258343,2014-02-06 17:25:19,">>26258313 The non-spooky kind",,Anonymous,1373308789011.png,dYsdATQBwp6n9XlC2mrXLw==,,,1391707519 26251437,26258395,2014-02-06 17:26:26,">>26258343 Who is this guy supposed to be? I see that fucking face everywhere",,Anonymous,,,,,1391707586 26251437,26258436,2014-02-06 17:27:27,">>26258395 Max stirner,patron saint of /lit/",,Anonymous,,,,,1391707647 26251437,26258921,2014-02-06 17:40:31,">>26258343 >Stirner's idea of the ""Union of Egoists"", was first expounded in The Ego and Its Own. The Union is understood as a non-systematic association, which Stirner proposed in contradistinction to the state.[12] The Union is understood as a relation between egoists which is continually renewed by all parties' support through an act of will.[13] The Union requires that all parties participate out of a conscious egoism. If one party silently finds themselves to be suffering, but puts up and keeps the appearance, the union has degenerated into something else.[13] This union is not seen as an authority above a person's own will. Stirner doesn't fit that definition perfectly? Please.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391708431 26251437,26259017,2014-02-06 17:42:47,">>26258294 >>26255210 So when does Country B have the right to defend itself ""in any way it sees fit"" from Country A? After two citizens from Country A attack Country B? Three? Does it have to be at least a thousand? More? Does the parliament of Country A have to get together and formally declare war on Country B? >The country itself is not a singular person, therefor the NAP does not apply. I can't quite put my finger on it but it feels like your moving goalposts here. Are you saying that it's immoral to make aggression against an individual or group of individuals, but it's morally permissible to attack an individual or group of individuals who, as you say, are participating in something that doesn't exist except in their minds? Basically, do you see it as moral to kill someone engaging in thoughtcrime?",,Anonymous,1379130479269.jpg,6lHPXjypo1rNABTmA0Qndw==,,,1391708567 26251437,26259175,2014-02-06 17:46:25,">>26259017 The point is that only individuals can react against individuals. It is not moving the goalposts. No country, or anyone for that matter has the right to murder someone for a crime that another man committed, even if he is his supposed countryman.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391708785 26251437,26259692,2014-02-06 17:57:30,">>26259175 Okay, so in an Anarcho-Capitalist country, it would be considered immoral for you to kill any invading soldier who didn't pose an immediate threat to you, until you were the only person left, at which point they could just bomb your house with a drone. This makes invading a fuck ton easier. You could just hire a handful of guys to go from house to house killing everyone in the country one at a time. Even if it took years it would be okay, since no one would have the right to retaliate against you.",,Anonymous,1379610105384.jpg,hzE/4OQi6SYgHtKp6/FCnA==,,,1391709450 26251437,26259791,2014-02-06 17:59:20,">>26259692 >A soldier invading your country No, you can't do shit to him unless he openly intends to attack/kill people and you know of this, or he has killed prior. How do you fucks not understand this?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391709560 26251437,26259796,2014-02-06 17:59:28,">>26259692 ""First they came for the people at the border, and I did nothing because they weren't me. Then they came for the people in the city, and I did nothing because they weren't me. Then they came for my neighbors, and I did nothing because they weren't me. Then they came for me""",,Anonymous,,,,,1391709568 26251437,26260193,2014-02-06 18:08:19,">>26259791 But even if he killed other people, what under the NAP would give you the right to retaliate on their behalf? And how would you determine his guilt? Is there no trial? Who appointed you as judge, jury, and executioner? >>26259796 Hit the nail on the head. ""People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.""",,Anonymous,1369330834397.jpg,YeD4dL7WJSPDVUsMOZ2UJg==,,,1391710099 26251437,26260252,2014-02-06 18:09:44,">>26259796 Or maybe you're all clients of the same defense company, and to get a break on your premiums most of you who are capable are part of their reserve forces, and your company has reinsurance alliances with a lot of the others, so when the invaders crossed the border much of the society would act to repel them. Cool strawman though. Maybe you should think 'have they thought about this obvious issue and written, I don't know, entire books about it' before acting like you're way smarter than those dumb anarchists who totally just want to destroy society and live in caves, right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391710184 26251437,26260327,2014-02-06 18:11:11,">>26260193 >But even if he killed other people, what under the NAP would give you the right to retaliate on their behalf? They initiated force against another human being. . > And how would you determine his guilt? You walk through a village and there is the corpse of a woman that has been shot dead, you spot a man in a camoflage uniform with an AR15, this shit isn't difficult to understand. >/pol/ can't into voluntary militia",,Anonymous,,,,,1391710271 26251437,26260532,2014-02-06 18:15:39,">>26256598 I just noticed after 30 minutes of lurking this thread that this is that little shit from spyro. . . My fucking childhood.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391710539 26251437,26260656,2014-02-06 18:18:11,">>26260252 >Country A pays Defense Company of Country B eight times as much money as they receive in premiums to aid Country A with takeover >CEO of Defense company accepts deal, moves to Switzerland >Invasion takes about as long as a wire transfer But of course that would never happen because it's impossible to imagine that people in an anarcho-capitalist society would be self-interested and might betray everyone.",,Anonymous,1389555708236.png,S9RMItowg3iUjdQRLS7NAA==,,,1391710691 26251437,26260740,2014-02-06 18:20:11,">>26260656 Private business does not pursue short term gains over long term gains.",,Anonymous,,,,,1391710811 26251437,26260748,2014-02-06 18:20:25,">>26260656 >Country A pays Government of Country B eight times as much money as they receive in taxes to aid Country A with takeover >Head of government accepts deal, moves to Switzerland >Invasion takes about as long as a wire transfer Why doesn't this happen",,Anonymous,,,,,1391710825 26251437,26260854,2014-02-06 18:22:36,">>26260740 >Private business does not pursue short term gains over long term gains. Hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahaahahhaahahahahahahahahaha hoollllllyyyyy shiiiiiitttt the stock market alone should be refutation enough",,Anonymous,,,,,1391710956 26251437,26260939,2014-02-06 18:24:18,">>26260854 How is the stock market evidence that the market favors short term gains over long term gains?",,Anonymous,,,,,1391711058 45213447,45213447,2015-05-15 14:50:32,"Anarcho-Capitalism General http://www.propertarianism.com/anarcho-capitalism-an-annotated-bibliography-by-hans-hoppe/ http://anarcho-capitalist.org/ https://dailyanarchist.com/",ANCAP GENERAL,Anonymous,2124836890_997c26387a.jpg,p95Xye9eRDnNL4SJ/NWv5Q==,CA,,1431701432 45213447,45213478,2015-05-15 14:51:22,Mises is to the right what Marx is to the left,,Anonymous,,,US,,1431701482 45213447,45213625,2015-05-15 14:56:03,">>45213478 No statists allowed, faggot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1431701763 45213447,45214414,2015-05-15 15:19:58,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1431703198 45213447,45217004,2015-05-15 16:23:55,"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZGgcu_l1gA Very interesting interview with ""The Muslim Agorist"" Davi Barker",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1431707035 45213447,45217300,2015-05-15 16:32:14,">>45213625 A echo chamber eithin an echo chamber? Why do you want to silence the oppositon, statist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1431707534 45213447,45218734,2015-05-15 17:12:04,http://dailyancap.com/,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1431709924 45213447,45219021,2015-05-15 17:19:17,will ancapism allow homos to exist?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1431710357 45213447,45219079,2015-05-15 17:20:56,">>45219021 Yes? I don't see how it could stop it. No state, do what you will in your own bedroom. It's all voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1431710456 81767757,81767757,2016-07-19 12:41:39,"ITT: Defend this fucktarded ideology. Hardmode: Explain why law-enforcing cooperations wouldn't seize power.",AnCap General,Anonymous,file.png,fAxeyi/ZUuZ+yPewa10oag==,AT,,1468932099 85407125,85407125,2016-08-15 10:55:26,Is this the dankest /pol/ meme this season?,ANCAP GENERAL,Anonymous,411.png,X9FwGp65lipHAu/NAt0E2g==,US,,1471258526 85407125,85408351,2016-08-15 11:10:54,it's certainly my favorite,,Anonymous,ancap btfo.png,GuUqkJJQ+zc1AyGKS69KTw==,US,,1471259454 85407125,85408528,2016-08-15 11:13:20,It's pretty gud,,Anonymous,ancap2.png,hMZkLbggXy8JHm+SiTP5ng==,GB,,1471259600 85407125,85408618,2016-08-15 11:14:25,Yes,,Anonymous,1471023550392.jpg,XVKxDHAIwMl3wkKIXANXEg==,US,,1471259665 85407125,85408734,2016-08-15 11:15:48,,,Anonymous,1471023872087.jpg,0uGgz5Pf1pzkbuv0/UHk2A==,US,,1471259748 85407125,85408751,2016-08-15 11:16:00,,,Anonymous,ancap fags.jpg,5ikRp19bkNKY3lgGZQmZnA==,US,,1471259760 85407125,85408777,2016-08-15 11:16:17,,,Anonymous,1471023650739.jpg,kH3u9StgvzsC7TN7O7gP5g==,US,,1471259777 85407125,85408941,2016-08-15 11:18:17,">>85408751 That's the same for ancaps.",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1471259897 85407125,85408961,2016-08-15 11:18:31,,,Anonymous,ancap faglords.jpg,7Cz4Q+on2qEt48Njs6ILDA==,US,,1471259911 85407125,85409045,2016-08-15 11:19:32,">>85408777 Nice trips m8",,Anonymous,ancap3.png,89GN6NQj/9shx6OieU1Onw==,GB,,1471259972 85407125,85410609,2016-08-15 11:37:30,bumping this shit for more ancap,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1471261050 85407125,85411218,2016-08-15 11:44:36,">>85408734 this one made me laugh",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1471261476 85407125,85411430,2016-08-15 11:47:12,,,Anonymous,ancappp.jpg,IWtgwr/gsIQiCs/VvRzg9Q==,GB,,1471261632 85407125,85411579,2016-08-15 11:48:53,,,Anonymous,rousseau.png,YqySdBoh+SZBTQlgupfRpQ==,US,,1471261733 85407125,85411597,2016-08-15 11:49:06,,,Anonymous,YJvj5Fp.png,etc2UcKnYQnNKXFf6SI8Zw==,GB,,1471261746 85407125,85411858,2016-08-15 11:52:11,">>85411597 That is a great idea. You could then buy up all of the land from few famished cannibal survivors for nice fat price of 1 ticket to outside.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1471261931 85407125,85412017,2016-08-15 11:53:53,,,Anonymous,1471197876266.png,zSkbLOKWhLuBYyQmaUiltg==,GB,,1471262033 85407125,85412059,2016-08-15 11:54:26,,,Anonymous,1471197289903.png,MuWGyS9EBeshB8eavr8ISA==,GB,,1471262066 85407125,85412117,2016-08-15 11:54:54,,,Anonymous,1471197813024.png,arHBxnTgMg3CGf3fwvwaHg==,GB,,1471262094 85407125,85412162,2016-08-15 11:55:22,,,Anonymous,1471197852227.png,nMxEb3nH68ovvddBYI8p2Q==,GB,,1471262122 85407125,85412356,2016-08-15 11:57:26,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,Poj6K6pPYnmGt4IqPkJZRA==,GB,,1471262246 85407125,85412389,2016-08-15 11:57:48,">>85412017 >>85412059 >>85412117 >>85412162 You should make one about welcoming reditors.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1471262268 85407125,85412753,2016-08-15 12:02:06,MOR ANCAP MEMES THEY ARE THE BEST,,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471262526 85407125,85412979,2016-08-15 12:04:32,">>85408941 for ancap you are the state of your land a king without peasant",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471262672 85407125,85413079,2016-08-15 12:05:39,,,Anonymous,turkey.png,SNw5xrp4rUdNS6+Q+Sv+Fw==,BE,,1471262739 85407125,85413101,2016-08-15 12:05:56,,,Anonymous,commies4.png,/XUW/VFwr1SQ5ODJgFD1og==,BE,,1471262756 85407125,85413126,2016-08-15 12:06:14,,,Anonymous,1470880650251.png,75y4PaziW4z/Sg7DhW9JnA==,BE,,1471262774 85407125,85413150,2016-08-15 12:06:32,,,Anonymous,commies3.png,L28+fVBjY9u+Lz2uk/I2JQ==,BE,,1471262792 85407125,85413176,2016-08-15 12:06:49,,,Anonymous,commies.png,s1Y3Ayrb9n/y8/SakRuiDQ==,BE,,1471262809 85407125,85413204,2016-08-15 12:07:10,,,Anonymous,commies2.png,lncON4dqW/B3ONtupxZK2Q==,BE,,1471262830 85407125,85413228,2016-08-15 12:07:23,,,Anonymous,AUSCAP.png,20ixai5HTkBMJEGzmhwgTw==,IT,,1471262843 85407125,85413234,2016-08-15 12:07:28,,,Anonymous,1470878802504.png,tjXcajkOp7h+tzUxdasCbw==,BE,,1471262848 85407125,85413272,2016-08-15 12:07:51,,,Anonymous,eJwNykESgyAMAMC_8AAghJLgbyJQdEaFETx1-vd2z_tRz32oRW1z9rEYk_eR2p31mO2WWnRtrR5F-j50aqeROSVtZ7nmMBABCZgjWwbAELxxgBaZyRFGshwdG08r-pgRxeLK739MgqWwfaUAJKT7VdX3B5HnKGY.hi5x03X_0vJKYbdflOrIefTdgx0.png,YCWkPdNFUqzxoxv/2MCGAw==,BE,,1471262871 85407125,85413294,2016-08-15 12:08:09,,,Anonymous,eJwFwVESwxAQANC7OIC1KLu5zQaVzCRh0K9O7973vuozLrWpY60-N4B8ztRG1nO1IbXo2lq9ivRz6tRukLUkHXd51gRkdBGJmAwhuhA8WHTGscWA7kUcDRF4CezFpBwzupw47_TejWWJLJbQ6_5U9fsDnlooxQ.yPOVYmdE-KM9WZHA02lXyPuX8q4.png,xTAD9k4iTWAxtU7lkNgLQw==,BE,,1471262889 85407125,85413304,2016-08-15 12:08:17,">>85408961 >recreational nukes kek'd",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471262897 85407125,85413382,2016-08-15 12:09:12,,,Anonymous,ancarp.jpg,usz3T7pmDddrkZ0amHKrng==,GB,,1471262952 85407125,85413441,2016-08-15 12:09:56,Someone make one about Posadists,,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471262996 85407125,85413516,2016-08-15 12:10:46,,,Anonymous,1471202126001.jpg,ja3AihNYQ9RkNetwXXU6aw==,GB,,1471263046 85407125,85413612,2016-08-15 12:11:55,,,Anonymous,1471201052003.jpg,xn9bVGsI5rUZSAqIOR0kXw==,GB,,1471263115 85407125,85413651,2016-08-15 12:12:19,">>85413126 DELET THIS",,Anonymous,1405544827414.jpg,Y/6R5d6ijlSujM9LkSucFg==,TR,,1471263139 85407125,85413662,2016-08-15 12:12:25,">>85408734 I don't think I can go on any longer than this, I'm laughing so much right now my sides hurt",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263145 85407125,85413695,2016-08-15 12:12:43,">>85413228 This is a good one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263163 85407125,85413728,2016-08-15 12:13:08,">>85407125 It's pretty comprehensive, ironic, and replicable. an ideal meme. I have grown a little tired of it since I get over memes pretty quickly, but I'll keep the folder for ez spamming when a legit redditor makes his way here and argues for ancap shiiiiet.",,Anonymous,anarchojew.png,97TZyx3c24cJSE4GXaX0gw==,US,,1471263188 85407125,85413837,2016-08-15 12:14:13,Kek,,Anonymous,image.jpg,pS9FEQq570BwnePmHoOXEA==,US,,1471263253 85407125,85413854,2016-08-15 12:14:22,"Can anyone name an argument against anarcho-capitalism, for nationalism that can't be restated as an argument against nationalism, for global government?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263262 85407125,85413884,2016-08-15 12:14:45,">>85411597 Easement, brah.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263285 85407125,85413929,2016-08-15 12:15:11,">>85413382 holy shit this is great",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263311 85407125,85414010,2016-08-15 12:16:11,"Ancap is the funniest thing to meme about, just the subject matter you work with. Everyone already knows the usual fascist shit like Communism are retarded but Ancap is retarded in a fucking horrifyingly hilarious way.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263371 85407125,85414120,2016-08-15 12:17:26,">>85414010 can you explain?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471263446 85407125,85414176,2016-08-15 12:18:09,">>85414120 read the thread?",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1471263489 85407125,85414278,2016-08-15 12:19:22,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,GqVRdGRHiI/8g2mBLcoUYQ==,US,,1471263562 85407125,85414281,2016-08-15 12:19:23,">>85414176 >taking memes seriously",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1471263563 85407125,85414344,2016-08-15 12:20:11,,,Anonymous,mmmmcaps.png,fSVarMzMLig3iGdlqoceNA==,US,,1471263611 85407125,85414358,2016-08-15 12:20:21,">>85414176 the peoples that do the same as these meme have low survival instinct",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471263621 85407125,85414464,2016-08-15 12:21:40,Anyone have some anarcho-primativism memes?,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471263700 85407125,85414477,2016-08-15 12:21:50,">>85414344 I'm lovin' it",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1471263710 85407125,85414519,2016-08-15 12:22:22,">>85408618 This is my favorite of all time, because it genuinely sounds better than the present.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263742 85407125,85414733,2016-08-15 12:24:44,">>85414358 Criticizing my survival instinct violates the NAP >lobs a thumb nuke",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471263884 85407125,85414766,2016-08-15 12:25:13,">>85414344 implying i would not own the road myself :^)",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471263913 85407125,85414778,2016-08-15 12:25:22,">>85414358 The people who let Muslims with suspicious lumpy gloves hang around in their airports and train stations have low survival instinct",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1471263922 85407125,85414883,2016-08-15 12:26:32,,,Anonymous,arncarp.jpg,oDXzWJYO3NKmhqXhwEZ/rA==,GB,,1471263992 85407125,85415036,2016-08-15 12:28:07,">>85414733 you sound like north korea just consider yourself as the king of your private property and see how retarded a king would be to throw nuke like that even saoudi arabia doesnt do that and they are sand-niggers",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471264087 85407125,85415086,2016-08-15 12:28:46,">>85414778 i know",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471264126 85407125,85415108,2016-08-15 12:29:02,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,ZG/lLNeh69NyQ6Ucbq81LA==,US,,1471264142 85407125,85415207,2016-08-15 12:30:08,">>85415036 Just a thumb nuke breh I'll put a fence around the spot you were standing in and occupy your house. I'm expanding my orphan high mercury content uranium tipped dildo manufacturing facility/",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471264208 85407125,85415211,2016-08-15 12:30:11,">>85414778 liberal have low survival instinct, that why ancapism, is the best to weed out the left(darwinism)",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471264211 85407125,85415277,2016-08-15 12:30:56,">>85415207 sound like saoudi arabia",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471264256 85407125,85415279,2016-08-15 12:30:57,This thread.,,Anonymous,1469088188023.jpg,BJQeaKQxC5aMAwsvp+xCdQ==,US,,1471264257 85407125,85415617,2016-08-15 12:35:10,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,zDMUyWGes2YsNUAU0ZLyPg==,US,,1471264510 85407125,85415990,2016-08-15 12:39:40,">>85413854 I repeat, all of these arguments can be phrased as arguments against nationalism, for global government. Why? Because anarcho-capitalism is just nationalism one a really small scale, that's why! CHALLENGE: NAME A SINGLE FLAW IN ANCAP THAT ISN'T A FLAW IN NATIONALISM >the ""dude, separate entities will always fight unless they are ruled over by a larger entity with the capacity for peacekeeping. Non aggression pacts don't work long term, they will just violate the rules whenever it benefits them, resulting in worldwide chaos."" This logically calls for a government with universal jurisdiction, because nations are separate entities and therefore doomed to fight forever, plunging the world into chaos. >""we need a central government because military strength is a natural monopoly. It is most efficient to not have lots of parallel competition for the best army, and rather just have one central entity that doesn't need to waste funds making new weaponry and generally spending funds to be competitive"" Then we should have one global army, instead of various competing nation states, and feed starving children with the funds we save from not having parallel research into the same weapons. >""Some actions and interactions have external effects and the market, being composed of different rational actors, will not produce goods with positive or negative externalities at the optimal rate. Therefore we need a government to oversee other entities."" This logically calls for a government with universal jurisdiction because you need a government that can take responsibility for external effects regardless of where they are produced or manifest. Nation states are rational actors that will not be able to cooperate to the point of producing goods at the most efficient rate. Solving this requires a world government.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471264780 85407125,85416230,2016-08-15 12:42:40,,,Anonymous,ancap15.jpg,HqkvsWUX/6CrCHr/GgESPg==,GB,,1471264960 85407125,85416260,2016-08-15 12:42:58,">>85415990 this",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471264978 85407125,85416300,2016-08-15 12:43:17,,,Anonymous,ancap13.jpg,2pOlS0yWzh7QsEdSPYFMow==,GB,,1471264997 85407125,85416311,2016-08-15 12:43:26,">>85414281 Web brigades sponsored by the US government tend to think that they are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265006 85407125,85416400,2016-08-15 12:44:24,A classic,,Anonymous,1470856174179.png,Kbrl+Gp5lRJgPPN5drQuew==,GB,,1471265064 85407125,85416408,2016-08-15 12:44:29,,,Anonymous,ancap roads.png,XBSbEuNDqcmmXdxWzgpPHw==,US,,1471265069 85407125,85416461,2016-08-15 12:45:08,">>85416230 sound like stepping on the private property of kim jong un",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471265108 85407125,85416585,2016-08-15 12:46:23,">>85407125 Ancap here You lot are just jealous of iur freedom :(",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471265183 85407125,85416628,2016-08-15 12:46:45,">>85416400 I agree with a ton of criticisms of autismo-anarchy, but this one doesn't make sense. It isn't like government testing agencies are inherently trustworthy, it is just that they don't have any meta-agencies to be investigated by.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265205 85407125,85416895,2016-08-15 12:49:30,">>85416628 At least (usually) a government has to release large parts of it's findings to the public through the freedom of Information Act. Where as a private company could exclusively hide any of it's wrong doings in an Ancap land.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471265370 85407125,85417048,2016-08-15 12:51:02,,,Anonymous,image.jpg,ihtiQNKiy7vkU0GLtKbXng==,US,,1471265462 85407125,85417200,2016-08-15 12:52:36,">>85407125 I wish I lived in a Ancap or Ancom world, That way I could shoot my neighbor's helicopter down, Damn motherfucker.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471265556 85407125,85417401,2016-08-15 12:54:39,,,Anonymous,GERCAP.jpg,qi2TqpVNyGTuvvVrLyf+Cg==,IT,,1471265679 85407125,85417442,2016-08-15 12:55:07,">>85416895 >has to release large parts of it's findings to the public through the freedom of Information Act. That's good, I suppose. >Where as a private company could exclusively hide any of it's wrong doings in an Ancap land. Not if it wants to be believable, which is the entire goal of an inspection agency.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265707 85407125,85417443,2016-08-15 12:55:08,">>85417200 sound like turkey",,Anonymous,2EC379AB00000578-3334787-Russia_has_accused_Turkey_of_planned_provocation_and_supporting_-a-27_1448534193246.jpg,u1UjyHqbQyNImEj9+Ct3lA==,BE,,1471265708 85407125,85417516,2016-08-15 12:56:00,">>85415211 I agree. I think we should make a city in Africa into an (((Anarcho-Capitalist liberal paradise))) and use it as our jail (deport criminals to Africa) Literally will solve every problem. I truly believe this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265760 85407125,85417562,2016-08-15 12:56:36,>>85408734,,Anonymous,1470134777947s.jpg,DPkEhgzXABO7xD6WvF+KWQ==,HR,,1471265796 85407125,85417606,2016-08-15 12:56:59,">>85417401 keked",,Anonymous,1470089515638.jpg,K9YTYvKQZXj8mDjNiZ7mnA==,PA,,1471265819 85407125,85417632,2016-08-15 12:57:13,">>85412162 Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265833 85407125,85417654,2016-08-15 12:57:25,I suppose this means any old shmuck with a Metal Gear can just start a fucking country in the middle of the ocean,,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265845 85407125,85417655,2016-08-15 12:57:25,">>85416260 >>85415990 No you're wrong. The fundamental flaw of ancap is you cannot investigate the NAP without potentially infringing it. So there is no capitalism; only anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265845 85407125,85417717,2016-08-15 12:58:10,">>85407125 >mfw all these memes violate the NAP",,Anonymous,003.jpg,GfUgg24wQOLyGSzQkCDjrg==,EG,,1471265890 85407125,85417770,2016-08-15 12:58:47,">>85417516 they would most likly be able to colonise it back if you put non-black criminals",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471265927 85407125,85417829,2016-08-15 12:59:22,">>85416585 KEK, ancap Brazilian youre truly a child, our government inhibits our freedom in everything still we are a bunch of apes killing each other imagine that without the fucking state this is how it works in Brazil /pol/: >there is a problem we need to fix >we have money and resources to fix it > fixing it will aid millions of people and improve the country > hue hue br asks himself what do i get from it? >answer is nothing you just helped your own people to evolve with their money >hue hue br decides the problem isn't real takes the cash for himself and that is what people see here everyday and then they just say OH THE STATE IS CORRUPT OUR PEOPLE IS HONEST AND BEAUTIFUL ITS THE STATE KEEPING US DOWN kill yourselves any hue that thinks ancap is any solution",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471265962 85407125,85417838,2016-08-15 12:59:29,">>85417770 I know! That's the brilliance! turn Africa into the (((melting pot)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265969 85407125,85417867,2016-08-15 12:59:48,">>85417717 most of them do, some are pretty witty and don't (if you think about it)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471265988 85407125,85417914,2016-08-15 13:00:21,">>85417655 you cannot investigate china too you sound like UN being butthurt",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471266021 85407125,85418018,2016-08-15 13:01:27,">>85407125 the first three hundred threads were funny occassionally. now a shit.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1471266087 85407125,85418035,2016-08-15 13:01:39,I WILL HAVE THE LAST LAUGH DAHNALD,,Anonymous,ur fukt dahnald.jpg,EuOR29afqZXzIz6jbQ4/Bg==,US,,1471266099 85407125,85418038,2016-08-15 13:01:39,">>85417655 >investigate the NAP what?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266099 85407125,85418094,2016-08-15 13:02:21,">>85418038 >kill your neighbor for nothing >he violated my NAP it's cool No need to prove anything. Just kill who you want.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266141 85407125,85418173,2016-08-15 13:03:12,"They make no sense. I'm not even an ancap or libertarian but I know their main principle is non-aggression, so it doesn't make sense to have all this stuff about slavery and annexing each other because that violates being non-aggressive. It's sort of like if I made memes or jokes about how liberals love to murder blacks and trannies. They might be funny in a ""so randumb"" way but they make no sense at all and are based off the opposite of the actual political idea.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266192 85407125,85418180,2016-08-15 13:03:16,">>85417838 >turn Africa into the (((melting pot))) ebola will do that for us sooner or later",,Anonymous,image.gif,wmMEGzp5h+cQnUXQaXjIrg==,JP,,1471266196 85407125,85418290,2016-08-15 13:04:26,">>85418094 Who enforces the NAP though?",,Anonymous,1470610113264.png,xeqbmAVCvmhUvzcJnQseYw==,GB,,1471266266 85407125,85418325,2016-08-15 13:04:47,">>85418094 again you sound like you are taking about turkey relation with their neighbors",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471266287 85407125,85418374,2016-08-15 13:05:20,">>85418290 Nobody, that's my point. ancap is a shitty unsustainable meme. Don't mistake my ""We should build an ancap society in Africa"" for ""It works"" It doesn't",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266320 85407125,85418453,2016-08-15 13:06:07,">>85418094 So? This basically goes in the first category of argument I already extended to nations above. >""Oh, guys..... they were launching nukes at us, or something, we had to kill them. They were funding terrorism. They had weapons of mass destruction, honest."" If polycentric law and nonaggression won't work on a local level, they won't work on a national level. Yet international law is inherently polycentric and basically all the laws between nations are respect for sovereignty and nonaggression...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266367 85407125,85418597,2016-08-15 13:07:35,">>85413101 that doesnt make any sense belgium",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1471266455 85407125,85418665,2016-08-15 13:08:16,">>85418453 >basically all the laws between nations are respect for sovereignty and nonaggression... lmao. Oil is a literal clusterfuck where cartels wage war for control of resources. It's starcraft in real life. You're delusional.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266496 85407125,85418766,2016-08-15 13:09:23,">>85418374 Oh shit right sorry lad",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471266563 85407125,85418951,2016-08-15 13:11:28,">>85418597 wanting to make peoples equals to other peoples but these worker doesnt want to give up their private property so you kill them american worker are richer than chinese worker, would they give up their wealth if you forced them to be equal to the chinese?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471266688 85407125,85419072,2016-08-15 13:12:44,">>85417443 A bit. Except this asshole do fly overs 6 times a day, And I recently found out he do those tours for money to the rich guys in the mansions that litter the lake view. I thought about making a Chlorine+milk cannon but... I wonder if it'll work or just blow in my face.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471266764 85407125,85419092,2016-08-15 13:12:53,">>85418173 >annexing each other That is just a meme. It isn't really what they believe. > slavery basically voluntary servitude. Like if you hired a person to work for you for 50 years, and you payed them fifty years pay up front, then they would have basically sold off their freedom to stop working for greater security in the pricing of their labor. This would be approved by Ancaps, though some of them wouldn't allow children to be involved in this sort of thing. Implication of taking slaves involuntarily is sort of a meme though, I think. >>85418665 That is what I am saying. Anarcho capitalism has this flaw, and nations do too. If nationalism brings internal stability to a nation fraught with conflict between many different violent independent actors, then global government will bring global stability to a world fraught with conflict between many different violent independent actors. I'm just saying that if you accept the arguments, you should be for world government. If you reject the arguments, you can be ancap or nationalist as you please.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266773 85407125,85419122,2016-08-15 13:13:13,,,Anonymous,1471124004681.png,nn3MXfEKUpPXWkR4jcqKCQ==,US,,1471266793 85407125,85419132,2016-08-15 13:13:17,">this season its from years ago",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471266797 85407125,85419296,2016-08-15 13:14:39,">>85419072 turkey do that to greece too, and greece would shot them down if they were more powerfull than turkey again its the same shit but on the lower scale",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471266879 85407125,85419705,2016-08-15 13:18:43,">>85418180 Source?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471267123 85407125,85419903,2016-08-15 13:20:49,">>85418951 >equality the ultimate point of communism is aboundance which makes class distinction obsolete. everyone has eveything and lots of it. in the meanwhile, the point was for workers to own the means of production. so long as you have that, differences in income from a country to country were tolerated, eg east germany and albania.",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1471267249 85407125,85419983,2016-08-15 13:21:44,,,Anonymous,ancappo.png,ZOPNoI3yqgAYTwNOsfg7Ag==,CA,,1471267304 85407125,85420114,2016-08-15 13:22:49,">>85419092 >you can be ancap or nationalist as you please. ancap has moral flaws too. Like child sex slaves and heroin. But I don't disagree with you completely. I want to give an-cap society a chance. In Africa. So we can use it to deport criminals into and change the genetics of Africa. Saving it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267369 85407125,85420152,2016-08-15 13:23:09,">>85419903 >aboundance which makes class distinction obsolete good luck with that",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471267389 85407125,85420311,2016-08-15 13:24:42,">>85420114 >wanting to save africa can't get much more cucked than this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267482 85407125,85420362,2016-08-15 13:25:14,">>85419705 The Fly II (1989) think it's a security guard who got a facefull of acid fly spit",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1471267514 85407125,85420394,2016-08-15 13:25:36,">>85420311 Save it by destroying it and replacing it. I know these concepts are too difficult for you to understand.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267536 85407125,85420402,2016-08-15 13:25:40,">>85420114 having child sex slaves kill the future of your descendant, you can do it but your dynasty wont exist for long same shit with heroin",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471267540 85407125,85420424,2016-08-15 13:25:58,">>85420311 I'm actually thinking of buying land in africa and starting a small nation there killing any niggers that try to defy me and my private army, how about we make a kickstarter to go to africa pol?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471267558 85407125,85420494,2016-08-15 13:26:39,those DARK Ancap types are pretty cool,,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267599 85407125,85420497,2016-08-15 13:26:41,">>85420311 Africa is lovely. It just needs less niggers. SAVE AFRICA FROM NEGROS.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471267601 85407125,85420501,2016-08-15 13:26:43,">>85420394 for that you need to consider the locals as the fauna",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471267603 85407125,85420581,2016-08-15 13:27:41,">>85420494 isnt dark ancap just pragmatic ancap?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471267661 85407125,85420665,2016-08-15 13:28:27,">>85420424 how about we make a kickstarter to send you back to tumblr you jungle loving race traitor.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267707 85407125,85420783,2016-08-15 13:29:39,">>85420402 It's fine as long as it's in Africa. I might even visit. Also an ancap society is the ONLY way we can accomplish the dream of a modern roman colosseum where the slaves fight eachother for amusement of the poeple. Build an arena in Africa, offer huge cash prizes for the winner, release the lions and film. >>85420501 No you just start a society and start shipping millions of criminals in. Eventually the niggers will be bred out, or starve and die. I told you I have thought this through. It's brilliant.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267779 85407125,85420798,2016-08-15 13:29:49,">>85413176 whoa there this is literaly Poorlish """"""""""""""""""""""""""capitalism""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1471267789 85407125,85420835,2016-08-15 13:30:09,">>85414778 EBIN BANTZ! MY FUCKING SIDES, JAPAN-CHAN!",,Anonymous,1466787558034.jpg,5Kdqc/X/aPKqbF7RrAmRVA==,US,,1471267809 85407125,85420877,2016-08-15 13:30:28,But it's not a /pol/ meme.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267828 85407125,85420917,2016-08-15 13:30:53,">>85420665 what dafuq are you talking about, our lands are taken by leftists you can't fight them we already lost, so why not strive in a new land where we can be based and kill niggers at the same time?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471267853 85407125,85420942,2016-08-15 13:31:11,">>85420497 >Africa is lovely. literal cuckold",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267871 85407125,85420990,2016-08-15 13:31:38,">>85420497 >flies that lay eggs in your eyes >other flies that make you go to sleep forever >Guinea worms that bore through your body from the inside out >crocodiles to eviscerate you >baboons to dismember you >lions to tear you in two >hyenas to crack your bones for marrow >elephants to stamp what's left >drought to turn the flattened bits to dust >""""""""""""""lovely""""""""""""""",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1471267898 85407125,85421009,2016-08-15 13:31:49,">>85420917 >losing to leftists just keep digging that hole, cuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471267909 85407125,85421070,2016-08-15 13:32:27,">>85420942 ebin",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471267947 85407125,85421181,2016-08-15 13:33:37,">>85420798 communism is the same as a capitalism company of the size of country that pay everyone in it the same",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471268017 85407125,85421262,2016-08-15 13:34:21,">>85420990 I would rather be worried about females showing living kraken up their asses while vomiting at each other.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471268061 85407125,85421289,2016-08-15 13:34:45,">>85420990 poetic",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268085 85407125,85421314,2016-08-15 13:35:04,">TFW you buy up all the land around the local towns causing all the people to die so that nobody observing your private property can collapse the wave function of it meaning you basically own all of space allowing you to cleanse any and all races and alien species for existing in the Universe for violating the NAP somebody make this one into a meme please I'm mobile posting",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1471268104 85407125,85421332,2016-08-15 13:35:15,">>85411579 underrated",,Anonymous,,,AR,,1471268115 85407125,85421354,2016-08-15 13:35:32,">>85420990 The only thing more on time than Jap trains is Jap bantz.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471268132 85407125,85421437,2016-08-15 13:36:21,">>85420798 capitolism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268181 85407125,85421529,2016-08-15 13:37:14,,,Anonymous,1470766463510.jpg,xX0Q8y3uXQwt79T5AOHrBQ==,US,,1471268234 85407125,85421549,2016-08-15 13:37:25,">>85421262 I understand that's something you'd definitely need to be worried about, in Germany.",,Anonymous,,,JP,,1471268245 85407125,85421587,2016-08-15 13:37:47,">>85420114 >ancap has moral flaws too. Like child sex slaves and heroin. These can be extended to nationalism as well. Ancapism: I own this property, so I am going to legalize child sex slaves and heroin within its boundaries! Nationalism: We rule over this nation, so we are going to legalize child sex slaves and heroin within its boundaries!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268267 85407125,85421706,2016-08-15 13:38:59,>>85407125,,Anonymous,image.png,8YrLMCWf2JpgyddyVj75fw==,US,,1471268339 85407125,85421716,2016-08-15 13:39:06,">>85416300 Sides are officially gone.",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1471268346 85407125,85421750,2016-08-15 13:39:26,">>85421587 again Ancapism is just Monarchism on a lower scale",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471268366 85407125,85421760,2016-08-15 13:39:32,>>85412162,,Anonymous,2.jpg,ejxhYbiEb9JRrtNr1bn3Hg==,GR,,1471268372 85407125,85421813,2016-08-15 13:40:06,">>85421587 That's a very interesting (((view))) of Nationalism you have. Don't mind me I'll just be never talking to you again.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268406 85407125,85421908,2016-08-15 13:40:58,>>85412017,,Anonymous,1461213290260.jpg,h9ouWyqv9xL2TYSJ7kBztg==,HU,,1471268458 85407125,85421962,2016-08-15 13:41:35,">>85409045 why wouldnt everyone go to private school? >>85411430 how much do AA missiles cost? >>85411597 I think they would import it >>85412162 this literally never happens >>85413101 >>85413079 the english is bad in these >>85413126 this one is good, I didn't know they said that about us though, I thought Turks liked America >>85413150 >>85413176 boring >>85413204 funny >>85413234 boring",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268495 85407125,85422024,2016-08-15 13:42:13,">>85413382 Genious",,Anonymous,,,RS,,1471268533 85407125,85422070,2016-08-15 13:42:36,>there are anti-ancap cucks in this thread RIGHT NOW that would let John violate NAP and do nothing,,Anonymous,1471023173964.jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,US,,1471268556 85407125,85422124,2016-08-15 13:43:11,,,Anonymous,heaer.png,s1tSiJT8/C4F1XF7gCUgIg==,US,,1471268591 85407125,85422254,2016-08-15 13:44:27,">>85422124 Motherfucker",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471268667 85407125,85422284,2016-08-15 13:44:39,">>85421813 your nation is your family in ancapism the land you can chose that it can be inherited by your family only, same shit lower scale you family can grow with enough time to grow into tribe, and after nation",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471268679 85407125,85422441,2016-08-15 13:46:22,">>85422124 you fucker a clever one",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471268782 85407125,85422575,2016-08-15 13:47:36,">>85422124 got me",,Anonymous,,,GR,,1471268856 85407125,85422589,2016-08-15 13:47:45,">>85421813 well isn't it nationalism? Like if Israel legalized heroine and child sex slaves, would we stomp over there and overthrow their government? I sure would love to, but I don't think that I could gather a large enough crowd to succeed. You sure are theoretically capable of forming a large enough coalition of nations to invade israel, despite international law, and overthrow the pedos that are theoretically in charge. In the same way, ancaps could theoretically gather a large enough lynch mob to charge a pedo's property and lynch him, ignoring the NAP in the same way that you would ignore international law if a nation did some really bad shit. >>85421750 agreed.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268865 85407125,85422672,2016-08-15 13:48:31,">>85422124 Meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268911 85407125,85422729,2016-08-15 13:49:11,">>85422124 I'm not even mad, I should have seen that coming.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268951 85407125,85422777,2016-08-15 13:49:40,">>85412162 I lost it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471268980 85407125,85422840,2016-08-15 13:50:25,"cool memes guys keep it , we're all counting on you over here at https://www.reddit.com/r/memes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471269025 85407125,85422868,2016-08-15 13:50:41,">>85422124 Haha I'm protected faggot",,Anonymous,1469256779822.png,/mh8LeX/vijjUNfH8m4FyA==,RS,,1471269041 85407125,85422921,2016-08-15 13:51:11,">>85422589 agreed, the nap is a philosophy not an absolute law you could consider slave as gainst the NAP anyways",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471269071 85407125,85422961,2016-08-15 13:51:45,">>85422124 Nice",,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1470637338083.jpg,4FoS94Ef0jjYOdb66OAPcQ==,US,,1471269105 85407125,85423048,2016-08-15 13:52:35,">>85422124 kek, nice addition",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471269155 85407125,85423055,2016-08-15 13:52:39,">>85422124 clever girl",,Anonymous,image.gif,trpQvlDN8BVRU+FlV87pfQ==,JP,,1471269159 85407125,85423217,2016-08-15 13:54:10,">>85413854 Anarchism-Capitalism is an oxymoron. You need a state or state like institution to garuntee absentee property ownership and to enforce contracts.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471269250 85407125,85423356,2016-08-15 13:55:35,">>85421009 you already lost to the jews they rule your country, it is only a short span for you to lose for leftist, it happened here already",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471269335 85407125,85423499,2016-08-15 13:57:02,">>85423217 you, your family and your guns are the institution that protect the property ownership and enforce contract if you are weak you are weed out of the gene pool",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471269422 85407125,85423698,2016-08-15 13:59:08,">>85423499 sounds like africa to me",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471269548 85407125,85423898,2016-08-15 14:01:09,">>85423698 sound like novgorod to muscovy for me or the roman empire to the german tribe or poland to germany ect ect",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471269669 85407125,85423978,2016-08-15 14:01:59,">>85423499 I think you are missing the point. You built a factory on the other end of town and hire people to work the machines. What would stop the workers from taking over the factory in a stateless society?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471269719 85407125,85423996,2016-08-15 14:02:08,">>85423499 And when you decide to disregard NAP and impose your will on your neighbors how is you actions any different from any warlord trying to establish a kingdom as in monarchy as in a god-damn state? What stops me from creating a private army that protects the private property of those who havew agreed to my protection for a fee? How is that different from state protecting you and your property for a fee known as taxation?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1471269728 85407125,85424128,2016-08-15 14:03:23,">>85422124 I'm going to murder you",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471269803 85407125,85424179,2016-08-15 14:03:55,">>85423978 sound like mass immigration to me i would use my children and cousin to work in it",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471269835 85407125,85424274,2016-08-15 14:04:49,">>85422868 >>85422961 phew. close one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471269889 85407125,85424353,2016-08-15 14:05:29,">>85422868 posted",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471269929 85407125,85424357,2016-08-15 14:05:32,">>85420114 >child sex slaves A child is property until it gets old enough to be responsible for its acts (3-4 years old?). So, since property can't be a slave there couldn't be child sex slaves younger than that age. If they are older they would literally be slaves and that's not allowed by NAP.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1471269932 85407125,85424408,2016-08-15 14:06:04,">>85423898 you live in your fantasy world that there is no evil or that there are more good people than bad, only reason we are not killing each other right now is cause we have been brainwashed for generations saying that killing is bad and cause law enforce that, in an ancap civilization a pack of niggers will kill you and rape your family just like in real life if you had not have security that your state provides > flag oh wait your state doesn't even provide that anymore you will probably die in a suicide bombing in the future, good luck",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471269964 85407125,85424440,2016-08-15 14:06:23,">>85423996 its no different, the nap is like the relation between the different catholic states and you ignore it with the islamic states again its the same shit",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471269983 85407125,85424484,2016-08-15 14:06:48,">>85415279 WTF I hate having rights now",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471270008 85407125,85424550,2016-08-15 14:07:31,,,Anonymous,ancap1.jpg,xqz/Kn9Y1rC0kAz8Yq5pbg==,DE,,1471270051 85407125,85424587,2016-08-15 14:07:55,,,Anonymous,ancap2.jpg,tGVgKpMKYED58nUcflGbxQ==,DE,,1471270075 85407125,85424597,2016-08-15 14:08:03,">>85423996 >How is that different from state protecting you and your property for a fee known as taxation? of me its more like when you pay the swiss mercenary taxation is more like renting",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471270083 85407125,85424666,2016-08-15 14:08:41,">>85422868 >>85422961 >>85422921 right, mostly about how you derive your morality. If you take god-given self-ownership as the premise of the entire philosophy, then maybe people shouldn't be allowed to sell of their bodies. >>85421813 If you are implying that I am Nationalist View, you are wrong. I talked with him before and he is a total faggot. >>85423217 the nationalist analog of ""You own some property but cannot at the moment personally enforce your ownership of it"" is ""your citizens or your government holds some possession of property in another nation, but you cannot personally enforce their ownership of it"" Both of these criticisms are kind of wrong in the sense that you do not need to be the sole personal enforcer of all your property rights. I could hire someone to keep my property safe while I am gone. If he does not fulfill the responsibilities he accepts, he won't be hired again by anyone else for this sort of job. In a way contracts don't require much enforcement, as long as we can establish reputations and suchlike. And if, for practical reasons, we were unable to attribute the actions of a person to their identity, or we were unable to ascertain the objective degree to which a contract had been fulfilled, then how would the government (or global government) be better at this? They are kind of right in the sense that it may be more efficient to have a central enforcer of all property rights. The enforcement of contracts and property rights can come from a coalition of rational actors (community enforcing property rights, a bunch of nations preventing international piracy) instead of a single actor (a government funding police to save your ass, a world government invading a nation because they refuse to allow inspection of nuclear reactors.)",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471270121 85407125,85424800,2016-08-15 14:09:59,">>85424408 what are you saying? i mean its the same relation between neighbors than between country obviously there will be bloodbath from time to time",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471270199 85407125,85424926,2016-08-15 14:11:14,">>85424666 >then maybe people shouldn't be allowed to sell of their bodies more like they wouldnt allow themselve to be sold",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471270274 85407125,85424953,2016-08-15 14:11:27,">>85423996 that's an easy one, taxation is mandatory anywhere in the world,, hiring some mercenary is not if you don't pay your taxes you will be arrested and if you resist you will most likely die",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471270287 85407125,85425099,2016-08-15 14:12:55,">>85424597 Renting is actually a pretty good comparison since everything you own you own only because the state so allows. All lands and property are basically just on leash from the government to those who ""own"" them. So comparing taxation to rent is not as far fetched as one might think. Why state practically owns all the land/property is based on the one universal rule of human society: Might is right.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1471270375 85407125,85425124,2016-08-15 14:13:09,">>85422124 jej",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471270389 85407125,85425127,2016-08-15 14:13:09,">>85424800 then ancap is pretty much what the world was in 300 BC, but with nuclear weapons and the most likely chance of destroying the whole planet",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471270389 85407125,85425261,2016-08-15 14:14:39,>>85407125,,Anonymous,1471099076130.jpg,tDXQqdow0j5f0xWqk4icNQ==,US,,1471270479 85407125,85425361,2016-08-15 14:15:39,">>85421529 >>85424550",,Anonymous,burrr.jpg,/3mN1cQA24qIks18NAWDPw==,GB,,1471270539 85407125,85425445,2016-08-15 14:16:22,">>85421962 Because Private school costs money, not everyone is gonna have money to educate their kid. So begins the cycle of the uneducated slave class!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471270582 85407125,85425462,2016-08-15 14:16:27,">>85425127 ancap is most likly wanting to restart country from scratch ancom being criminals while ancap being kings",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471270587 85407125,85425559,2016-08-15 14:17:15,">>85425462 no ancom is democraty",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471270635 85407125,85425569,2016-08-15 14:17:21,">>85408734 Lost it at Nebelwerfer",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471270641 85407125,85425578,2016-08-15 14:17:26,>>85422124,,Anonymous,22.jpg,y9FPbgvW9u1Q+MeJg9/nhA==,US,,1471270646 85407125,85425597,2016-08-15 14:17:36,">>85424953 >hiring some mercenary is not It is when the mercenaries make it clear to you that you will sign up for their services or lose your property and life.. I know that his violates NAP but let's face the whole principle is as much of a utopistic pipedream as communist dreams of shared ownership of all means of production. I also realize that mercenaries blackmailing you are no different from common thugs but that's how states were originally born. Groups of thugs racketeering and blackmailing people for protection.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1471270656 85407125,85425644,2016-08-15 14:18:05,">>85421962 this isn't randy rates memes episode you moron",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1471270685 85407125,85425733,2016-08-15 14:18:47,">>85424926 the anarcho capitalist version of slavery is one where you sell yourself into slavery. Nobody else is supposed to be able to do that. I don't like this because it kind of ignores the inherent hierarchy of intelligence differences between individuals. Is a contract still consensual if it is between a mortal and a god, or between a retard and a man? I would say it depends on whether the contract can be fully comprehended both parties. If the mortal is bargaining with forces he doesn't even begin to comprehend, I don't think that is legitimate. Same with the retard. But I disagree with anarcho-capitalism in other ways too, I have a different sense of land ownership than anarcho capitalism. This puts me bit left of center, except I am still proud of my race and understand that nationalism has some incredible practical benefits for the working class. So maybe somewhere around center? IDK.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471270727 85407125,85425830,2016-08-15 14:19:47,">>85422961 >>85422868 get rekt",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1471270787 85407125,85425950,2016-08-15 14:21:01,">>85422124 Nigger Saged",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471270861 85407125,85425959,2016-08-15 14:21:06,">>85425559 >>85425462 >ancomm is democracy! >ancomm is criminality! at first I thought that you were having a proxy fail but then I realized you hadn't even contradicted yourself. Democracy is a crime against humanity.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471270866 85407125,85426083,2016-08-15 14:22:17,>>85425261,,Anonymous,ancap2.jpg,r2BHxXgF1oqDjn3dLA6/Jw==,GB,,1471270937 85407125,85426097,2016-08-15 14:22:27,">>85425733 well the difference between cap com and others is how you handle the anarcho",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471270947 85407125,85426148,2016-08-15 14:23:04,">>85424587 /v/-tier, but I still kek'd",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471270984 85407125,85426180,2016-08-15 14:23:25,">>85425959 i said ""no its like democraty"" because i was wrong as being criminals",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471271005 85407125,85426257,2016-08-15 14:24:08,,,Anonymous,image.png,IooLW8T7WhsYnRT89D6Pqg==,SE,,1471271048 85407125,85426348,2016-08-15 14:25:04,">>85426257 Since you blew off my sides into orbit is that a violation of the NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271104 85407125,85426432,2016-08-15 14:25:54,">>85425959 In the case of democracy I find myself once more at the point that I have to admit to myself that: While state in it's core essence is evil and violates my human rights it seems to be a necessary evil, and out of all possible forms of state, democracy while being evil is the best possible option.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1471271154 85407125,85426450,2016-08-15 14:26:01,">>85411579 So literally feudalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271161 85407125,85426482,2016-08-15 14:26:18,">>85425959 when i see ancom saying they would ""fight the capitalist"" they sound like the french republic against the monarch",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471271178 85407125,85426594,2016-08-15 14:27:14,">>85426450 thatsthejoke.jpg",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271234 85407125,85426620,2016-08-15 14:27:30,,,Anonymous,The Game.png,BxiTGUQ8bZGcxANHNqqEJA==,US,,1471271250 85407125,85426854,2016-08-15 14:29:52,">>85426450 never said it was wrong",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471271392 85407125,85427111,2016-08-15 14:32:12,">>85422124 Fuk u",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1471271532 85407125,85427225,2016-08-15 14:33:15,"I don't quiet get ancap how can someone claim what's their property? first come first serve? what if there is no usable space anymore? where to live when everything is claimed? I mean there is no state so there are no homeless shelters or such",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471271595 85407125,85427296,2016-08-15 14:33:59,">>85427225 u fuk a niga bitch",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271639 85407125,85427303,2016-08-15 14:34:04,">>85426432 I would encourage you to read some mencius moldbug until you realize that there are some pretty shiny alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271644 85407125,85427315,2016-08-15 14:34:08,"Ok ok heres a good when >when the majority of people in your region join under a single banner of shared ideals that they impress upon the minority by force, implementing taxes to build amnenities such as roads to make themselves more prosperous and powerful than lawless neighbouring regions.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471271648 85407125,85427374,2016-08-15 14:34:42,">>85426083 lulz",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1471271682 85407125,85427377,2016-08-15 14:34:45,">>85422124 Fuck you.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1471271685 85407125,85427380,2016-08-15 14:34:45,"After reading all of these, and seeing the state of the world today, I genuinely would like to live in an AnCap State.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271685 85407125,85427417,2016-08-15 14:35:10,">>85427225 Its a meme. Its just anarchy with modern technology.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471271710 85407125,85427420,2016-08-15 14:35:11,">>85425733 >If the mortal is bargaining with forces he doesn't even begin to comprehend, I don't think that is legitimate. That's our legal system now. We're all classed as lost at sea, and given a number at birth. What you might refer to as 'freedoms' are actually liberties, like a sailor on shore leave. Our nations are basically plantations.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471271711 85407125,85427453,2016-08-15 14:35:26,">>85422868 Thank you remover of kebabs",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1471271726 85407125,85427542,2016-08-15 14:36:17,">>85427315 >they impress upon the minority by force, nonwhite confirmed",,Anonymous,bitcoin.png,bq3LPIISyqLQDUd7z6J2ng==,US,,1471271777 85407125,85427560,2016-08-15 14:36:26,">>85427225 >where to live when everything is claimed you rent to someone or die trying to steal someone land >I mean there is no state so there are no homeless shelters or such darwinism",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471271786 85407125,85427576,2016-08-15 14:36:37,">>85417442 How do you, as an outside observer, know that the Ancap land inspection agency is not withholding information?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271797 85407125,85427596,2016-08-15 14:36:48,">>85418453 Yes, and international relations are peaceful and fun and not full of violent mass slaughter all the time. Your view of the world is colored by the fact that you live in an unusually peaceful era in an unusually rich and peaceful place. The only reason we're not in a constant bloody battle over land on a global scale is because of nuclear mutually assured destruction. Before that, international relations consisted primarily of people dying all the time because king A wants land from king B. You think that the international model of legal relations is good? You're an idiot.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271808 85407125,85427659,2016-08-15 14:37:24,">>85427225 >how can someone claim what's their property? homesteading >first come first serve? Yep. >what if there is no usable space anymore? Then you get sent to incinerator for trespassing. >where to live when everything is claimed? >live >implingy >I mean there is no state so there are no homeless shelters or such there could be privately funded ones, but yeah it is pretty messed up isn't it there is a modified version with agrarian justice so this sort of thing doesn't happen. It is called geoanarchism or geolibertarianism. but it is still autistic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271844 85407125,85427696,2016-08-15 14:37:43,">>85427380 Just go to central africa.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1471271863 85407125,85427769,2016-08-15 14:38:21,">>85427225 >I mean there is no state so there are no homeless shelters or such why do you think the state is only capable of this? plus we still have homeless people despite having states and shelters? why do they get away with it when you are so obviously averse to the idea?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271901 85407125,85427866,2016-08-15 14:39:16,">>85427576 sound like the UN or the EU",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471271956 85407125,85427877,2016-08-15 14:39:24,">>85427659 your dad beat you as a child",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471271964 85407125,85427922,2016-08-15 14:39:54,,,Anonymous,ANCAP5.png,PijS/lSH5sqn0uJ8x+MT/A==,NL,,1471271994 85407125,85428032,2016-08-15 14:41:16,">>85427596 so you agree that the threat of supreme defense is stronger than even the strongest state? welcome to ancap bitch",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471272076 85407125,85428183,2016-08-15 14:42:48,,,Anonymous,ANPRIM4.png,Zi/IRbz1SLttdLGBxPe1tw==,NL,,1471272168 85407125,85428288,2016-08-15 14:43:52,">>85413234 add in grand father and you've got literally 99% of ""white"" americans",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471272232 85407125,85428345,2016-08-15 14:44:19,">>85422124 neat",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471272259 85407125,85428406,2016-08-15 14:44:50,">>85422868 noice",,Anonymous,,,ZA,,1471272290 85407125,85428439,2016-08-15 14:45:10,">>85413228 This is too real for me.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1471272310 85407125,85428471,2016-08-15 14:45:26,">>85420114 >So we can use it to deport criminals into and change the genetics of Africa. Saving it. >tfw you create a race of super-shitposters",,Anonymous,343434545454.png,4g5uxPvnX50/MB7IwuYexg==,SI,,1471272326 85407125,85428487,2016-08-15 14:45:34,">>85422124 NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1471272334 85407125,85428519,2016-08-15 14:45:58,">>85422868 noice and wew",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471272358 85407125,85428564,2016-08-15 14:46:21,>>85425261,,Anonymous,1469370721941.jpg,+7x1jJ0b/ZcdYD3xOw7Qlg==,US,,1471272381 85407125,85428595,2016-08-15 14:46:36,>>85407125,,Anonymous,ancap4.jpg,3S3H1mF8DXNy+/lJWclX8g==,US,,1471272396 85407125,85428632,2016-08-15 14:46:56,">>85428183 i like this one, mill-bro",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1471272416 85407125,85428645,2016-08-15 14:47:02,">>85414278 6000000/10",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1471272422 85407125,85428826,2016-08-15 14:48:33,">>85428645 >only six million Disgusting antisemite you!",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1471272513 85407125,85428999,2016-08-15 14:50:12,Please r8,,Anonymous,"tfw paperboy forgot to pay toll, violating the NAP.webm",K1Al+cYqOChtdrjtyfotjA==,US,,1471272612 85407125,85429002,2016-08-15 14:50:13,">>85407125 OC from the catalog",,Anonymous,ancap3.png,usvB3F7m/PEBQkzFK0RvdA==,US,,1471272613 85407125,85429048,2016-08-15 14:50:39,">>85419122 Genius",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1471272639 85407125,85429349,2016-08-15 14:53:15,">>85422124 You are violating my NAP, faggot",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1471272795 85407125,85429352,2016-08-15 14:53:16,">>85429002 >thinks that literally the only 2 choices in the world are ancap and total socialism",,Anonymous,moonman pokemon.jpg,KBPXF0FcE/m93hq1Kbo74g==,US,,1471272796 85407125,85429440,2016-08-15 14:54:03,">>85427877 only once >>85427596 if it isn't good, then we should fix it by global government, right? >>85427576 how do you know that the government isn't? I don't trust any of these entities, but I would prefer the ones that are seeking to prove their trustworthiness to me much more than the ones that don't even try. Oh! now you are agreeing with me! >>85427420 agreed. We need to retake our freedom of contract. Then we can start on the road to freedom. >>85425959 I should have specified. Specifically democracy is fraud: it promises freedom but in the end it only creates a distributed tyranny. >>85424666 muh unchekt satanic trips >>85428032 That isn't necessarily true. You could believe something else could replace it. I think we need a global system of checks and balances, backed up by military power proportionate to those checks and balances. >>85429002 false dichotomy bro there is a third way actually there are like three third ways but only two are decent",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471272843 85407125,85429441,2016-08-15 14:54:03,">>85428999 OMG! I hope he's okay.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471272843 85407125,85429446,2016-08-15 14:54:05,">>85421962 >>>85411597 >I think they would import it How? You own all the surrounding land, how are they going to transport it into the city without getting your approval to cross your land? By the way your post is shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471272845 85407125,85429504,2016-08-15 14:54:43,">>85422868 thank you based serb",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471272883 85407125,85429682,2016-08-15 14:56:22,">>85422124 Goddammit.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471272982 85407125,85429759,2016-08-15 14:57:05,">>85429441 just a broken arm, he is gonna be fine amerifriend:)",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1471273025 85407125,85430011,2016-08-15 14:59:38,">>85414464 No because no one knows what the fuck that is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471273178 85407125,85430259,2016-08-15 15:02:02,">>85418597 then read a history book again, fuck!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471273322 85407125,85430508,2016-08-15 15:04:11,>>85411579,,Anonymous,1469433971375.jpg,NSzzsIUI7yJQ7qFd6ADWFQ==,US,,1471273451 85407125,85430663,2016-08-15 15:05:32,,,Anonymous,ANCAP2.png,AE8JPXudtHArEZNR8jowyA==,NL,,1471273532 85407125,85430711,2016-08-15 15:06:04,">>85413228 kek",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471273564 85407125,85430939,2016-08-15 15:08:02,,,Anonymous,hewillsit.jpg,esaD6gLo9XPMZX2uNT0pcg==,IT,,1471273682 85407125,85431060,2016-08-15 15:09:18,">>85422124 Fuck you.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471273758 85407125,85431188,2016-08-15 15:10:26,">>85429441 just a headache, he'll just need a couple of aspirins",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1471273826 85407125,85431232,2016-08-15 15:10:53,">>85422124 But I am immune",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1471273853 85407125,85431452,2016-08-15 15:13:01,">>85412162 DUDE",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1471273981 85407125,85431645,2016-08-15 15:14:57,,,Anonymous,1471231399789.png,UeI2uiNy7kZGhebvI5SsNQ==,US,,1471274097 85407125,85431887,2016-08-15 15:17:03,">>85428999 did he died?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471274223 85407125,85432177,2016-08-15 15:19:49,">>85422124 Fucking kike",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471274389 85407125,85432277,2016-08-15 15:20:52,">>85431887 No. He became the spokesperson for transabled community in San Francisco.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1471274452 85407125,85432329,2016-08-15 15:21:22,">>85424550 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnstown_Flood",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471274482 85407125,85432354,2016-08-15 15:21:40,">>85413176 >nobody wants to be paid the same Communism requires abolition of the individual will. No will to make more money = no will to not work harder.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471274500 85407125,85432430,2016-08-15 15:22:33,">>85422124 *niggered*",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471274553 85407125,85432588,2016-08-15 15:24:09,>>85426257,,Anonymous,Untitled.png,3RoJn92PUYU6rIUbxKDW2Q==,US,,1471274649 85407125,85432634,2016-08-15 15:24:37,">>85432354 >no will to not work harder. do you unironically believe this really all of the injustices communism claims to solve can be solved more effectively through other means.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471274677 85407125,85432694,2016-08-15 15:25:20,">>85432354 thats why it will allways collapse due to denying human nature",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471274720 85407125,85432709,2016-08-15 15:25:24,">>85432588 Brilliant",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1471274724 85407125,85433141,2016-08-15 15:30:12,">>85407125 wasn't this an ifunny meme",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471275012 85407125,85433191,2016-08-15 15:30:43,">>85413294 kekimus maxilel",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1471275043 85407125,85433230,2016-08-15 15:31:10,">>85422124 Hahaha Well memed",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471275070 85407125,85433328,2016-08-15 15:32:08,this meme is out of control,,Anonymous,KoDtbwn.jpg,kRs0C1uukdNgwEuDAeD5CA==,CH,,1471275128 85407125,85433376,2016-08-15 15:32:32,">>85407125 Can someone explain a bit about this meme, i feel retarded, i understand that it has something to do with muriqa and i think this meme is great.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1471275152 85407125,85433412,2016-08-15 15:32:56,">>85432588 my sides are leaving the solar system",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1471275176 85407125,85433498,2016-08-15 15:33:39,">>85417401 pretty good",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1471275219 85407125,85433547,2016-08-15 15:34:18,">>85433412 Does that violate the ayy's NAP?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471275258 85407125,85433632,2016-08-15 15:35:24,">>85433376 some shit about anarchy or something i dunno",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1471275324 85407125,85433679,2016-08-15 15:35:46,">>85433547 kek",,Anonymous,,,CY,,1471275346 85407125,85433789,2016-08-15 15:36:52,">>85422124 nice",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471275412 85407125,85433835,2016-08-15 15:37:26,">>85433376 It's about anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1471275446 85407125,85433889,2016-08-15 15:37:54,">>85422124 >>85422868 why do these posts never have dubs or more. sleep tight mom",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471275474 85407125,85433993,2016-08-15 15:38:59,">>85433547 oh shit, i am gonna get nuked from orbit!",,Anonymous,1466616540268.gif,mwA9FCWchSV3Dg268SnKmA==,CZ,,1471275539 85407125,85434272,2016-08-15 15:41:38,">>85433376 It has to do with Anarcho-Capitalism. The meme basically makes fun of AnCaps.",,Anonymous,1470943626051.jpg,oFvyoDGBXPS8Q1lu7vgrhA==,CY,,1471275698 85407125,85434309,2016-08-15 15:41:58,">>85422124 you fucker ریییییییییییییییییییییییییییییییییییییییییییی",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1471275718 85407125,85434393,2016-08-15 15:42:39,">>85421962 nobody gives a shit about your meme reviews you faggot",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1471275759 85407125,85434418,2016-08-15 15:42:57,,,Anonymous,mGjNwvi.png,RGJZ6R+e47ZAaV7C48W4ow==,GB,,1471275777 85407125,85434756,2016-08-15 15:46:29,">>85421962 people who tag more then 5 posts should be banned or captcha should recognize it as spam",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1471275989 85407125,85434806,2016-08-15 15:46:54,,,Anonymous,ancaps.jpg,6MuPtq2TY8uKd90p+80WNA==,US,,1471276014 85407125,85434835,2016-08-15 15:47:12,>>85422868,,Anonymous,1470834524869.jpg,VU1RB7dD2KQ/COh3x5j3pA==,GB,,1471276032 85407125,85434939,2016-08-15 15:48:16,">>85433376 >asking to explain memes >>85434272 >explaining memes bad memetiquette guys",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471276096 85407125,85435040,2016-08-15 15:49:04,r8,,Anonymous,33.png,+1xo4UNOoMrPVViQfZvVRg==,NL,,1471276144 85407125,85435277,2016-08-15 15:51:21,^ ignore him ^,,Anonymous,,,BE,,1471276281 85407125,85435390,2016-08-15 15:52:27,">>85422124 No pls",,Anonymous,,,US,,1471276347 85407125,85435539,2016-08-15 15:53:54,,,Anonymous,what anarchists want.jpg,2mXdQ85f0A5TkUAtSS5qBQ==,NZ,,1471276434 85407125,85436385,2016-08-15 16:02:25,">>85435040 :^)/10",,:^),,,HR,,1471276945 86432090,86432090,2016-08-24 15:00:45,"When did /pol/ realise that ancapitalism is the best economic system ever invented? >You can do whatever you want as long as it doesn't violate the NAP >Right to defend your home and family >No lazy scroungers leeching off other peoples hard work >Everybody is independent >No oppressive government stealing money from the populace >True freedom If you disagree with ancapitalism you are either a dirty communist who can't stand up on his own two feet or an ass licker to the government. If you disagree with ancaptialism I have to ask you this: Are you really such a lazy fuck you HAVE to rely on the government help you?",Ancap general,Anonymous,bbddc4f0-a4a3-44eb-b51d-ce2306581a80..jpg,p3VnnoA7CUMHLxH99htpgQ==,GB,,1472050845 86432090,86433418,2016-08-24 15:14:52,">>86432090 you're describing ancap lke someone who doesn't understand ancap. like as if i can do things under this system or as if my rights are somehow granted by this system. I'm an anarchocapitalist because I don't believe in a ruling class and believe in property rights. i believe this based on foundational axioms, not emotion. and i have no disdain for the poor. in fact, i might be the poorest guy on 4chan right now.",,Anonymous,1395785422159.png,pTUXJPas35aEdCBWmxytYg==,ZA,,1472051692 86432090,86433646,2016-08-24 15:17:37,,,Anonymous,1470493708080.jpg,jyStybczV2fsZrNhfJS28A==,GB,,1472051857 88286560,88286560,2016-09-10 07:55:57,Ancap is the best ideology and basically there is no argument against it.,ancap general,Anonymous,1470658620041.jpg,mZBOYqHZ2RaYH74b6sWapA==,DE,,1473494157 94359407,94359407,2016-10-24 09:09:18,Ancap is best ideology and there are no logical arguments against it.,ancap general,Anonymous,1470658620041.jpg,mZBOYqHZ2RaYH74b6sWapA==,DE,,1477300158 94359407,94359604,2016-10-24 09:12:03,,,Anonymous,ancap23.jpg,eiziXrl4oJ3XuuUdx6FgHg==,US,,1477300323 94359407,94359729,2016-10-24 09:13:57,>>94359407,,Anonymous,2c7d0c903115cfcffb0a14c9ff77e36392657a97f5e4d2a1364c7e608338f054.png,BH3JO3vQwCKzHs2ndQk7cA==,AU,,1477300437 94359407,94359744,2016-10-24 09:14:12,">>94359407 What happens when you gotta repair the autobahn?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477300452 94359407,94359775,2016-10-24 09:14:42,">>94359407 Agreed.",,Anonymous,1472483002990.jpg,23l3y8HiPFKwIXz5FisiSw==,GB,,1477300482 94359407,94359809,2016-10-24 09:15:01,">>94359407 In the first pol craft games ancap society was the strongest followed by commies and natsocs in perpetual warfare",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477300501 94359407,94359854,2016-10-24 09:15:43,Did somebody say AnCap thread?,,Anonymous,1477089211634.png,JdnmrWmqGRTm+mLiH7mEFw==,US,,1477300543 94359407,94359864,2016-10-24 09:15:54,">>94359407 Pretty sure it's the worst ideology there is. I can't think of any more retarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477300554 94359407,94360015,2016-10-24 09:17:43,">>94359864 Why is it retarded? >inb4 straw men",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477300663 94359407,94360142,2016-10-24 09:19:43,">>94359744 Whoever owns it repairs it >>94359864 >I can't think Yea we got that much already",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477300783 94359407,94360200,2016-10-24 09:20:38,>>94359854,,Anonymous,5941895+_a86582e84b148d02f6d67e14e4fd5521.jpg,PVpVJeGw0lV/0bmBYuYUAg==,US,,1477300838 94359407,94360293,2016-10-24 09:21:51,>>94360200,,Anonymous,1476750479769.jpg,JF0JXfW7bank3EF7FbMhFg==,US,,1477300911 94359407,94360310,2016-10-24 09:22:02,"Their only counterarguments are strawman memes. I don't understand why /pol/ doesn't like anarcho-capitalism, I mean we have Hans Hermann Hoppe and everything.",,Anonymous,1316901151524.jpg,NdC7x9aNm/AQ/J7vEVLpkA==,EE,,1477300922 94359407,94360352,2016-10-24 09:22:43,">>94360310 It seems to be filled with autists...",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477300963 94359407,94360426,2016-10-24 09:23:38,">>94360142 >Whoever owns it repairs it And what if they don't?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477301018 94359407,94360478,2016-10-24 09:24:21,,,Anonymous,acb.jpg,XhtdRCMw6tHn+j76/QZleQ==,US,,1477301061 94359407,94360516,2016-10-24 09:24:58,">>94360426 Then you use another road or use the broken one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477301098 94359407,94360562,2016-10-24 09:25:36,>>94360310,,Anonymous,7363_916693195034795_6690118597194555039_n.jpg,oUDJufHjZDdio4xXJDTzMw==,GB,,1477301136 94359407,94360588,2016-10-24 09:26:07,">>94360426 Then they won't make any money off it because nobody would use it anymore.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477301167 94359407,94360655,2016-10-24 09:26:59,,,Anonymous,25e.jpg,zJL+LOsCZzqxSsM7TzTJtA==,US,,1477301219 94359407,94360715,2016-10-24 09:27:42,,,Anonymous,08a.jpg,I/My3m8Xzc6cOg1luAyDnA==,US,,1477301262 94359407,94360821,2016-10-24 09:29:02,,,Anonymous,9d5.jpg,6nmR6OsN74C93da/xQgbCw==,US,,1477301342 94359407,94360882,2016-10-24 09:29:46,,,Anonymous,ff0.jpg,QucLsuwdj99TcAAOD0enag==,US,,1477301386 94359407,94360934,2016-10-24 09:30:24,,,Anonymous,c6d.jpg,pF6GKcqKFBZ/My93WQgu1A==,US,,1477301424 94359407,94361057,2016-10-24 09:32:04,">>94360934 >>94360882 >>94360821 >>94360715 >>94360655 >>94360478 see ei ole argument :^)",,Anonymous,1415203490976.gif,Tq2NqYVfg35FWJRd2to9wA==,EE,,1477301524 94359407,94361075,2016-10-24 09:32:20,">>94360821 >make an agreement >refuse to follow through",,Anonymous,1400914874852.jpg,TMqSPY/GBVkwh2K66XjenQ==,US,,1477301540 94359407,94361152,2016-10-24 09:33:39,I love how everyone who proposes AnCap as a serious ideology are the kind of people who would be instantly raped and murdered in an actual AnCap society.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1477301619 94359407,94361159,2016-10-24 09:33:44,">>94359604 >>94359729 >>94360478 >>94360655 >>94360715 >>94360821 >>94360882 >>94360934",,Anonymous,me.jpg,5VY3ADMpBcSYSgqnE3q+EQ==,CZ,,1477301624 94359407,94361177,2016-10-24 09:33:57,">>94359854 Oh shit waddup",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477301637 94359407,94361191,2016-10-24 09:34:05,">>94360934 His fault for not paying his subscription. Though he now has the right to retaliate against you with force as your flamethrower was excessive force in return for his branch violating your private property.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477301645 94359407,94361226,2016-10-24 09:34:38,">>94360293 Stop it man",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477301678 94359407,94361256,2016-10-24 09:35:00,,,Anonymous,1475513840104.jpg,pB88IahDLLKa0P8lUCkfZA==,US,,1477301700 94359407,94361318,2016-10-24 09:35:56,">>94361152 >raped and murdered violation of the NAP",,Anonymous,Cheers.png,C9StWCnpH/+snYS6OvUyRw==,EE,,1477301756 94359407,94361329,2016-10-24 09:35:59,">>94361057 >>94361159 sorry no need for an argument because im gonna shoot you and take all your stuff >>94361075 >>94361191 yes, m'lord",,Anonymous,pmc.png,RF/lzQ4XiR31wk8tpfv0Og==,US,,1477301759 94359407,94361391,2016-10-24 09:36:54,">>94361329 >im gonna shoot you and take all your stuff gross violation of the NAP, i'm gonna shoot back in defense :^)",,Anonymous,Grrring.jpg,XnwZiRo9nYYNGr+oJ8FnyQ==,EE,,1477301814 94359407,94361412,2016-10-24 09:37:11,">>94359854 im responding to this picture",,Anonymous,,,CH,,1477301831 94359407,94361421,2016-10-24 09:37:19,">>94361159 That's the thing. Ancap is so idiotic it doesn't need to be argued against. No one takes it seriously",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477301839 94359407,94361427,2016-10-24 09:37:25,>>94359407,,Anonymous,IMG-20161018-WA0002.jpg,Ad6xFiAUqxCTybUy4QBemA==,ES,,1477301845 94359407,94361433,2016-10-24 09:37:31,">>94361329 I guess you really have nothing but straw men and feefees.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477301851 94359407,94361451,2016-10-24 09:37:40,">>94359407 that argument is reality, anarchy is impossible",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1477301860 94359407,94361474,2016-10-24 09:37:53,">>94361318 Whats to stop me and my pmc army from violating the NAP?",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-14731273205341056466908.png,Y79DjLyJTCAxhcV3evA8IA==,US,,1477301873 94359407,94361495,2016-10-24 09:38:08,">>94361421 >t doesn't need to be argued against These are the children you argue with on /pol/.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477301888 94359407,94361539,2016-10-24 09:38:47,">>94359407 You need a government for currency, to enforce property/contract rights and to enforce life/liberty. A society without that is basically Somalia.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477301927 94359407,94361602,2016-10-24 09:39:36,">>94361391 whats that? squad 2316 is down in sector 27? send in reinforcements",,Anonymous,convoy.jpg,1vRhAgKt2CxBP0IB/8qq2w==,US,,1477301976 94359407,94361612,2016-10-24 09:39:46,">>94361433 >having 50+ fully armed men storm your house is a strawman Yeah ok bud",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-1474406246486-929140683.png,gc4AGrNJ46DTrGr2jXA+Qg==,US,,1477301986 94359407,94361621,2016-10-24 09:39:52,">>94361421 Anarcho Capitalism is the most logically sound ideology. You're just too stupid to form any coherent argument against Anarcho Capitalism. >>94361474 Other people can hire their own security detail as well.",,Anonymous,The Look.png,BbUxjdUqdXQqci400yV+jg==,EE,,1477301992 94359407,94361641,2016-10-24 09:40:10,">>94361057 >>94361159 I've actually been banned for mass-replying to these posts. One image apparently said ""reply to this or you die"", but it's not like I could tell from the thumbnail. It's great that mods are focusing on some spam while ignoring the majority of it. Very consistent.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477302010 94359407,94361657,2016-10-24 09:40:20,">>94361421 all right, the jig is up boys, this guy nailed it, back to filling those tax forms!",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477302020 94359407,94361663,2016-10-24 09:40:24,">>94361539 >You need a government for currency What is bitcoin >enforce property/contract rights What is a gun, what is security >enforce life/liberty Yeah, the government is really for liberty, that's why they take your money by force to spend on their own shitty ideas",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477302024 94359407,94361698,2016-10-24 09:40:51,">>94361391 You're pretty naive if you think a good thief is going to give you a chance. The real murderers and sociopaths--the high functioning ones--will tear through most people's home alone defenses like butter. Any of them with military training are likely to be even more effective. If you're sleeping in your house and old Greg, back from the war, decides he wants to kill you there's going to be basically nothing you can do to realistically stop him.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302051 94359407,94361727,2016-10-24 09:41:05,">>94361329 by ""violates the NAP"" we mean ""triggers the ebola deadman switch""",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477302065 94359407,94361750,2016-10-24 09:41:30,">>94359854 Is this cursed though or just meta-analysis?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302090 94359407,94361752,2016-10-24 09:41:31,">>94361621 >Other people can hire their own security detail as well. What if they dont have enough bitcoins?",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-14731327701451419580543.png,ndcO8WLif5tXcjQDnTZijg==,US,,1477302091 94359407,94361780,2016-10-24 09:41:59,">>94360293 Pls bb",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302119 94359407,94361859,2016-10-24 09:43:03,">>94361602 Hey G4S we have a situation here senpaitachi >>94361698 Murder isn't exclusive to anarcho capitalism. >>94361752 Their fault for being too stupid to manage their finances efficiently.",,Anonymous,More Hand.jpg,GtN+0F6JUkor6jCDmoK0Hw==,EE,,1477302183 94359407,94361926,2016-10-24 09:44:00,">>94361539 Good goyim. Replace ""government"" with ""mutual consent"" in your sentence and you'll see it's still valid.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1477302240 94359407,94362012,2016-10-24 09:45:00,">>94361495 >>94361621 >>94361657 Fuck it, I'm up for more laughs. Riddle me this, Batman. Who's to stop someone with a majority of weapons and firepower from violating NAP and conquering everything in his area?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302300 94359407,94362015,2016-10-24 09:45:03,">>94361859 >Murder isn't exclusive to anarcho capitalism. You can get away with it a hell of a lot easier >Their fault for being too stupid to manage their finances efficiently. So the NAP doesnt apply to poor people?",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-1472210623514568225565.png,JIcchBJtah0dUo6/I9U9Iw==,US,,1477302303 94359407,94362049,2016-10-24 09:45:20,">>94361663 Brah I'm a libertarian, i stated the purpose of government. I don't like my money going to abos as much as you do but you require a government big enough to enforce contracts and property rights or weak/old people will be destroyed. Anarchism is not fair.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302320 94359407,94362114,2016-10-24 09:46:15,">>94362049 >inb4 ""life isnt fair""",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-1472210681939-1710458471.jpg,0uGgz5Pf1pzkbuv0/UHk2A==,US,,1477302375 94359407,94362116,2016-10-24 09:46:16,">>94361926 >TFW WHEN ""mutual consent"" is literally government",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302376 94359407,94362159,2016-10-24 09:46:44,">>94361859 But organized systems to punish murderers and provide protection from violations of your natural rights by others aren't present in all systems... Anarcho-capitalism has a much worse answer to the problem of coercive violence than traditional statism, and I've never heard a coherent argument for it that didn't ultimately biol down to ""let the strong destroy the weak"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302404 94359407,94362162,2016-10-24 09:46:47,"As recognised in my community's voluntary security agreement, I have an a priori homesteader's right to all the things you consider ""your"" property (including your physical person), and if you don't observe my homesteader's property rights as established by the voluntary community security agreement, I will be perfectly justified in authorising security agreement enforcement agents to use force up to and including lethal force as a matter of self defence with respect to my rights.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302407 94359407,94362208,2016-10-24 09:47:28,">>94362116 It's one (shitty) form it can take. Doesn't mean it absolutely has to be a state.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1477302448 94359407,94362255,2016-10-24 09:48:03,">>94359407 It is self-contradictory, hence self-refuting.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302483 94359407,94362369,2016-10-24 09:49:43,">>94361698 And government is stopping him how exactly?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477302583 94359407,94362379,2016-10-24 09:49:45,">>94362208 A large collective of people obeying by the same rules makes laws. Everyone in the collective who believe in ""private"" law enforcement are all paying taxes in a way. This creates an executive and judicial branch, WHICH IS LITERALLY GOVERNMENT.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302585 94359407,94362429,2016-10-24 09:50:27,">>94362049 >wants to protect the weak from destruction >doesn't want to give money to a race of weaklings",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302627 94359407,94362489,2016-10-24 09:51:12,">>94361859 sorry i just nuked g4s's home base. ive also decided to dump sarin gas on your town and choke everyone to death, sorry!",,Anonymous,nke.jpg,QGsv8HAcov/FA3FI2bv1Xg==,US,,1477302672 94359407,94362499,2016-10-24 09:51:19,">>94362012 How would one obtain a 'majority of weapons and firepower' and what would his incentive be to conquer shit?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477302679 94359407,94362510,2016-10-24 09:51:32,">>94362369 By enforcing law and charging him with murder which is a deterrent.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302692 94359407,94362516,2016-10-24 09:51:38,">>94362012 Who's to stop someone from doing exactly that right now? >>94362015 >You can get away with it a hell of a lot easier citation needed >So the NAP doesnt apply to poor people? Where the fuck are you getting this from? There's still a judicial system, just because you're too dumb to invest in a lock for your door doesn't mean breaking and entering is now legal.",,Anonymous,relaxerating.jpg,AxX6QCJeY6qHSTXLtYhzqQ==,EE,,1477302698 94359407,94362528,2016-10-24 09:51:42,">>94359407 I agree, but just like everything it only works in white/civilized societies. Once you got even one retard/nugger/mudslime welfare parasite nothing works",,Anonymous,,,IL,,1477302702 94359407,94362580,2016-10-24 09:52:16,">>94362429 I want the law to be enforced equally, no matter if they're a negro or white. I don't believe they should be given an advantage though.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302736 94359407,94362587,2016-10-24 09:52:23,">>94359854 Just to safe",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302743 94359407,94362588,2016-10-24 09:52:23,">>94362379 If you're gonna call all human interaction government then okay.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1477302743 94359407,94362598,2016-10-24 09:52:29,">>94360426 Same thing that happens in my damn city... They deal with potholes until the municipal government gets their shit together and fixes t.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477302749 94359407,94362602,2016-10-24 09:52:30,,,Anonymous,1472236250746.jpg,2ZZqJU1bi+gFG0nFdgZYDQ==,DE,,1477302750 94359407,94362628,2016-10-24 09:52:51,">>94362255 How is that?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477302771 94359407,94362674,2016-10-24 09:53:19,,,Anonymous,1472502613796.png,n5JWHoCSAiRm31u4/6fg1Q==,DE,,1477302799 94359407,94362709,2016-10-24 09:53:42,,,Anonymous,1476194283900.png,XBSbEuNDqcmmXdxWzgpPHw==,MY,,1477302822 94359407,94362711,2016-10-24 09:53:43,">>94362012 >Riddle me this, Batman. Who's to stop someone with a majority of weapons and firepower from violating NAP and conquering everything in his area? nothing. Same would apply to a State so your argument helps you none. Luckily this made up scenario is almost impossible since the free market is best at eliminating monopolies, unlike the State who is the creator of 95% of world's monopolies. Also I'm sure the north koreans are thrilled that the great leader has by law all the weapons at his disposal. this is way too easy.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477302823 94359407,94362753,2016-10-24 09:54:10,">>94362510 The exact same thing would happen in an ancap society, the difference is that you could have more guns",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477302850 94359407,94362784,2016-10-24 09:54:33,">>94362489 There's nothing stopping you from doing a terrorist attack right now as well. There are still armed forces in an Anarcho-Capitalist society.",,Anonymous,I See What You Did Thar.png,9By0tzxMoyRTfv1uMpBsrg==,EE,,1477302873 94359407,94362787,2016-10-24 09:54:37,">>94362588 No but a collective of humans, agreeing on laws and the enforcement of these laws lead to a literal government.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302877 94359407,94362831,2016-10-24 09:55:01,">>94362528 Yes it does It works in every society",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477302901 94359407,94362842,2016-10-24 09:55:05,">>94362528 This is a problem that our dear friend Hans-Herman proposes we should solve with physical removal. >>94362580 >he thinks Aborigines are Negroes They're a separate race. >he's an egalitarian This is retarded. Why should the law be applied equally to different subjects? What about legally-binding contracts that apportion rights unequally? In some instances law enforcement is more expensive and less valuable; what about efficiency?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302905 94359407,94362846,2016-10-24 09:55:13,">>94362753 Brah, move to Somali, there are a lot of guns there :).",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477302913 94359407,94362889,2016-10-24 09:55:49,,,Anonymous,1474406362977.png,FDPN1XqzbgFyiqjtMomOFA==,DE,,1477302949 94359407,94362937,2016-10-24 09:56:14,">>94359407 Capitalism requires a state to protect private property rights.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477302974 94359407,94362991,2016-10-24 09:56:54,">>94362516 >There's still a judicial system How is that anarchy then? >just because you're too dumb to invest in a lock for your door doesn't mean breaking and entering is now legal. Again what is stopping me and my army from overtaking every house in the tri state area?",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-1474403989286-1524505989.jpg,8pVOzZkF56pVTHlgaU0QFQ==,US,,1477303014 94359407,94363006,2016-10-24 09:57:06,">>94362842 I have a fundamental belief that another human shouldn't be harmed or possessions taken away from them. The only exception for this is the taxation to make this system possible.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303026 94359407,94363016,2016-10-24 09:57:12,,,Anonymous,ac5.png,cGk8BhCu743FoF98ciLNgA==,DE,,1477303032 94359407,94363051,2016-10-24 09:57:41,">>94360588 what if in certain area they have a monopoly and thay dont give a shit because they own the only roads in the area",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1477303061 94359407,94363062,2016-10-24 09:57:50,">>94363006 Define ""harm"".",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303070 94359407,94363063,2016-10-24 09:57:51,">>94362159 That's not an argument.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303071 94359407,94363070,2016-10-24 09:57:55,">>94362846 There's also niggers, communist niggers and various warlords",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477303075 94359407,94363078,2016-10-24 09:58:04,">>94359854 >>94361750 wondering this as well",,Anonymous,,,DK,,1477303084 94359407,94363094,2016-10-24 09:58:17,">>94362842 btw i know abos aren't negros and i never claimed they were.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303097 94359407,94363095,2016-10-24 09:58:17,,,Anonymous,1474486968706.jpg,Ql9+euHobmEB99qc/o6XPg==,DE,,1477303097 94359407,94363107,2016-10-24 09:58:25,">>94363006 Also, justify the exception.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303105 94359407,94363129,2016-10-24 09:58:38,">>94362499 >obtain Be a millionaire, for one. >incentive Becoming king of the land? Not having to work for anything again? The abolishing of government always leads to the creation of more government, in one way or another.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303118 94359407,94363167,2016-10-24 09:59:08,">>94362991 Anarchy in Ancap means the absence of coercive or violent government",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477303148 94359407,94363175,2016-10-24 09:59:13,">>94362937 The state inherently negates private property rights, though. You either have the exclusive right to your property or the state's ""right"" to taxation overrules your property right, making your property a mere allowance from the state.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477303153 94359407,94363177,2016-10-24 09:59:16,">>94363094 You rather strongly implied that you thought they were. We shall have to chalk it up to poor wording on your part, I suppose.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303156 94359407,94363195,2016-10-24 09:59:30,">>94363070 >There's also niggers, communist niggers and various warlords It's also known as an ancap society.",,Anonymous,germany.webm,gThdv0YFGjTWXErmON2OlQ==,AU,,1477303170 94359407,94363267,2016-10-24 10:00:25,">>94362784 there also millions of starving masses that are angry because you cut off their gib me dats. angry people that could easily be incited by a charismatic ideologue. cause enough violence and destruction those pmcs hired by privately funded competitors, wont be too keen on staying around.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303225 94359407,94363271,2016-10-24 10:00:29,">>94363063 ""The state's system of compulsory law and justice are effective in reducing violent coercion between private citizens; systems lacking a compulsory law and justice system will experience more violent coercion"" That clear enough for you, you cretin?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303229 94359407,94363280,2016-10-24 10:00:37,">>94363175 A reliable system of private property rights (as opposed to mere individual or pooled capacity to claim and defend resources) cannot exist without state coercion in the first place. Far from negating private property rights, the state creates them.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303237 94359407,94363316,2016-10-24 10:00:58,,,Anonymous,1474403807054.jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,DE,,1477303258 94359407,94363332,2016-10-24 10:01:14,">>94363051 So a company who purchased every road in an area to gain a monopoly would just somehow decide to not give a fuck for some reason and stop maintaining the very thing making them money?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477303274 94359407,94363350,2016-10-24 10:01:26,">>94363167 >absence of coercive or violent government So the bit of government in the AnCap pipe dream has no actual ability to enforce the NAP?",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-1473441224905-59066641.png,TFS4dTfi3d4asoUxHFWV+A==,US,,1477303286 94359407,94363364,2016-10-24 10:01:31,">>94363177 Okay, i admit i may of wrote it down as if but that's irrelevant to my argument.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303291 94359407,94363423,2016-10-24 10:02:13,">>94363280 Reliable in what sense when the state fundamentally violates your property rights?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477303333 94359407,94363429,2016-10-24 10:02:16,">>94362516 The government and their military. What else?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303336 94359407,94363430,2016-10-24 10:02:17,">>94360821 >corporeal Lelberta",,Anonymous,1475705915306.jpg,vSePaO1Jux6SREWTbdULtA==,US,,1477303337 94359407,94363456,2016-10-24 10:02:44,">>94359407 Anarchocapitalist don't get laid. Woman are not attracted to them.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1477303364 94359407,94363513,2016-10-24 10:03:20,">>94363175 Without the state how would you protect the means of production from being taken over by the people who work them? You need a state police force and legal system to protect that kind of property.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477303400 94359407,94363567,2016-10-24 10:03:55,">>94363332 >implying they wouldn't tax people per mile drivin on their roads",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-14722098564111787520011.png,STq5doo+5mDUIUajiD+0CQ==,US,,1477303435 94359407,94363641,2016-10-24 10:04:44,">>94363316 memes aside, this picture triggers my autism >wrong What does ""wrong"" mean? 1. If John is more powerful than me then I'd be wrong not to obey him. Of course as long as it's just the two of us, it might be worth the risk, and he couldn't demand anything to unreasonable for fear that I (though weaker) might really damage him. 2. Provided that John and his friends have a unified will, and that they can and will punish me if I do not co-operate, I would be stupid not to obey. Stupidity is wrong. 3. As above, though I don't think the ""voting"" part is a good idea.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303484 94359407,94363644,2016-10-24 10:04:45,">>94362846 Anarcho-Capitalism does not work in primitive low IQ societies. >>94362991 >How is that anarchy then? Because there is no state which violates the NAP by stealing your money and preventing you from doing harmless things. >Again what is stopping me and my army from overtaking every house in the tri state area? What's stopping you from doing that right fucking now? Right now it's the army/security police, in anarcho capitalism it would be the hundred security organisations you just provoked. >>94363429 >in anarcho capitalism it would be the hundred security firms you just provoked.",,Anonymous,1415203898887.gif,wvafijwvDLh/iDyKoiC6yA==,EE,,1477303485 94359407,94363651,2016-10-24 10:04:49,">>94363456 Most girls would have no idea what it means.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477303489 94359407,94363686,2016-10-24 10:05:16,">>94362711 the hell are you talking about? Monopolies would happen all the time without government intervention.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303516 94359407,94363706,2016-10-24 10:05:28,">>94363513 without the State you also can't get married. How on Earth are you gonna get laid without a State?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477303528 94359407,94363722,2016-10-24 10:05:40,">>94360293 Spamming curses is cancerous you shit nugget",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1477303540 94359407,94363762,2016-10-24 10:06:04,">>94363644 Except you hired all the security firms. What now?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303564 94359407,94363763,2016-10-24 10:06:06,">>94363332 they will make money anyway, there are no other roads to transport, so we will have a shitty roads with potholes etc",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1477303566 94359407,94363781,2016-10-24 10:06:18,">>94359854 I don't believe in superstition.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1477303578 94359407,94363794,2016-10-24 10:06:28,">>94363644 Every country/society has low IQ people.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303588 94359407,94363811,2016-10-24 10:06:41,">>94359854 i hate 4chan so i'm replying",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303601 94359407,94363823,2016-10-24 10:06:47,">>94363513 Automatic commie-seeking turrets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303607 94359407,94363849,2016-10-24 10:07:04,">>94363513 By hiring only people you actually trust and treating them well or hiring security firms that keep them from violating your property. Seriously, preemptively violating property rights in order to prevent potential violation of property rights seems backwards to me.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477303624 94359407,94363884,2016-10-24 10:07:27,">>94363644 >What's stopping you from doing that right fucking now? The US military you avatarfag >it would be the hundred security organisations you just provoked. And each organization would have its own special interest. What if half the pmc like what I'm doing with my armed militia?",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-1473206347893-183635125.png,PxK4NM4+UyzVwdkulxrttQ==,US,,1477303647 94359407,94364099,2016-10-24 10:10:10,">>94363364 I know, I was just having fun. >>94363423 Do you mean, if the state breaks its promise? The state creates systems of rights as guarantees. If the state fails to deliver on these guarantees then, as you note, the system is unreliable. An unreliable system will be less productive because potential productive activity is more risky than in a reliable system. There's an incentive for states to try to create reliable and efficient systems within which subjects are to operate, in order to maximise their own prosperity (and consequent power), because they are at risk from external competition and internal collapse. Or, do you mean that there's some fundamental right not granted by the state that the state is violating? In this case I just quote Bentham: nonsense upon stilts.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303810 94359407,94364101,2016-10-24 10:10:14,">>94362628 Freedom is incompatible with any notion of ""private property"". Capitalism requires state assignment and enforcement of property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303814 94359407,94364117,2016-10-24 10:10:24,">>94363686 hmm, how come laissez-faire countries have much less monopolies than socialist countries? How come they are more efficient than socialist countries?",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477303824 94359407,94364193,2016-10-24 10:11:23,">>94363644 >Right now it's the army/security police, in anarcho capitalism it would be the hundred security organisations you just provoked. Right now, ""private security organizations"" aka mafias/cartels/warlords are fighting each other over who has the supreme rule until one one is left in places where government ceased to exist. AnCaps weigh their hypothetical scenarios of how it could work out more highly than all the real life evidence to the contrary.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477303883 94359407,94364236,2016-10-24 10:11:59,">>94364117 Notice how those countries still have governments. Not being Ancap doesn't mean I don't support capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477303919 94359407,94364248,2016-10-24 10:12:07,">>94364101 I prefer to have private property for myself than freedom for others.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477303927 94359407,94364346,2016-10-24 10:13:19,"All the arguments against AnCap are from people who are completely clueless about how a society naturally organises itself. >what if everyone just wanted to kill you for no reason xD",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477303999 94359407,94364354,2016-10-24 10:13:22,">mfw laughed at AnCaps >mfw AnCap society would reverse white genocide cause non-whites won't survive without big welfare state",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477304002 94359407,94364364,2016-10-24 10:13:29,">>94364117 >not being AnCap makes you a commie",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-14770548750621922295295.jpg,TqBvvOwO/a8BMMXOyc1+ow==,US,,1477304009 94359407,94364399,2016-10-24 10:13:59,">>94359854 Fuck u bro",,Anonymous,,,DO,,1477304039 94359407,94364431,2016-10-24 10:14:23,">>94360310 You praise autists and autism. Hoppe is a prime example of that.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1477304063 94359407,94364524,2016-10-24 10:15:30,">>94364346 Its not for no reason you dumb faggot. Whatever organized private military that wanted to create a monopoly can by force.",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-14731324028171000734082.jpg,fw6FFwvaEK65AsxeSrSBng==,US,,1477304130 94359407,94364555,2016-10-24 10:15:49,">>94364236 >complains about monopolies in the free market >state monopolies are okay we are done here. >>94364364 whatever, replace socialist with authoritarian you nitpicking cunt",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477304149 94359407,94364694,2016-10-24 10:17:25,">>94359854 fug",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477304245 94359407,94364704,2016-10-24 10:17:34,">>94364346 Personally, I would enjoy killing people and taking their stuff, if the law weren't in the way. In a hypothetical anarchist world I'd join a bandit gang and enjoy a comfy neet life raping and pillaging the cucks",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477304254 94359407,94364770,2016-10-24 10:18:22,">>94364555 Having government doesn't make you authoritarian dipshit. Having a private military that kneecaps anyone not going to their assigned job making .50/hour is.",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-14722104827931451937936.jpg,ckzk298p9RnMx7BZQIgbFg==,US,,1477304302 94359407,94364772,2016-10-24 10:18:25,">>94364101 Why? Are you one of these mentally handicapped anarcho-commies who think that without enforcement proletariat would mob up and take away private property from capital owners? What if they hire private security? What if they use weapons to defend their property? What if they use Recreational Nukes™?",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1477304305 94359407,94364858,2016-10-24 10:19:27,,,Anonymous,112343542356.jpg,VFtuG1SKt73+ecby9i447g==,GB,,1477304367 94359407,94364879,2016-10-24 10:19:44,">>94360293 ;/ why does this still happen",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1477304384 94359407,94364917,2016-10-24 10:20:06,">>94364346 Also, I reckon Hobbes had a pretty good look at how people can behave in the state of nature, given that he was in such a fine position to observe the English Civil War. Certainly, he must have had more of a clue about human nature than do any of us here.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477304406 94359407,94365067,2016-10-24 10:22:08,">>94359854 lmao",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1477304528 94359407,94365120,2016-10-24 10:22:39,">>94364770 Having government doesn't make you authoritarian dipshit. government doesn't exercise authority over unwilling citizens? >Having a private military that kneecaps anyone not going to their assigned job making .50/hour is. sounds like North Korea to me. I'm sure they are super grateful for living in a State.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477304559 94359407,94365131,2016-10-24 10:22:48,">>94360293 kill urself",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1477304568 94359407,94365249,2016-10-24 10:24:18,"ancap isnt voluntary in any fair sense of the word. if you have no private property (which would be most of us, lets not kid ourselves) youre forced to comply to the whims of the property owners or beg/ starve/ steal. you can refuse the employment contracts available to you but there are no reasonable alternatives. yeah it literally is voluntary, but taxes are literally voluntary too. if you want to refuse to pay taxes just dont earn an income and go beg/ steal/ starve.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477304658 94359407,94365351,2016-10-24 10:25:35,">>94363763 if their roads require you to drive a certain speed, but driving that speed damages your car; your property, there are grounds for a lawsuit under the NAP in court. they would be liable for the damage.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477304735 94359407,94365393,2016-10-24 10:26:06,">>94364248 Your property is only private because you are free from others taking it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477304766 94359407,94365418,2016-10-24 10:26:26,">>94365120 >government doesn't exercise authority over unwilling citizens? Authority including not letting people kill each other and also punishing those involved in law enforcement if they fuck up. If you honestly think throwing every law on the book out the window is a solution to the governemnt having to much reach you might have brain damage. >sounds like North Korea to me. I'm sure they are super grateful for living in a State Again whats stopping my pmc or some rich kike from buying everything and killing everyone that doesnt bend to his will.",,Anonymous,tmp_13800-14722105248151895486309.jpg,MK37iiZr25mXiMeGw7zk7g==,US,,1477304786 94359407,94365442,2016-10-24 10:26:44,">>94363513 private security companies",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477304804 94359407,94365549,2016-10-24 10:27:58,">>94365393 What is the problem? I support private property and freedom for myself, and also my friends and family. I couldn't care less about others except to the extent that they affect me.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477304878 94359407,94365640,2016-10-24 10:29:02,">>94364099 I mean, how is a system of private property reliable when it's based on a grant by an agency with the monopoly on the initiation of force and includes an automatic and involuntary transfer of my property to said agency. What about that is a reliable system of private property? Your property rights do not require a state to be legitimate, even if the state were the only possible way to enforce them practically. Your house doesn't belong to you for the reason that the state enforces your claim and since the state only enforces your claim after expropriating a portion of your property, it's a contradiction to claim that property rights come from the state or are even compatible with it.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477304942 94359407,94365718,2016-10-24 10:30:07,">>94365249 >yeah it literally is voluntary, but taxes are literally voluntary too. if you want to refuse to pay taxes just dont earn an income and go beg/ steal/ starve. This is a good argument. One may also voluntarily earn income without paying the taxes prescribed by law, and expose oneself to legal penalties.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477305007 94359407,94365871,2016-10-24 10:31:44,">>94365418 >Authority including not letting people kill each other and also punishing those involved in law enforcement if they fuck up. If you honestly think throwing every law on the book out the window is a solution to the governemnt having to much reach you might have brain damage. non sequitur, ad hominem. >Again whats stopping my pmc or some rich kike from buying everything and killing everyone that doesnt bend to his will. nothing, but free market is more likely to disrupt monopolies, as I said before. you're gonna have to try harder.",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477305104 94359407,94365882,2016-10-24 10:31:51,">>94365249 >ancap isnt voluntary in any fair sense of the word. if you have no private property (which would be most of us, lets not kid ourselves) And why don't you own private property? There is a lot of ""publically owned"" land out there that you could homestead.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477305111 94359407,94365892,2016-10-24 10:31:59,what makes property rights legitimate?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477305119 94359407,94365962,2016-10-24 10:32:49,">>94365892 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_theory_of_property",,Anonymous,,,CZ,,1477305169 94359407,94365964,2016-10-24 10:32:50,">>94364555 When did I fucking say monopolies were okay? You're acting like I must support one of them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477305170 94359407,94365965,2016-10-24 10:32:51,"According to ancaps, Somalia is a higher society than Switzerland and prehistoric hunter and gathering tribes are superior to ancient Rome. Really causes your brain to engage in philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1477305171 94359407,94365968,2016-10-24 10:32:54,">>94365882 Right before a big farmowner blew you and your kids heads off in the night so he could steal your land, yeah.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477305174 94359407,94366127,2016-10-24 10:34:45,I don't know what's more funny these memes or the fact people actually believe ancap might work.,,Anonymous,,,PL,,1477305285 94359407,94366360,2016-10-24 10:37:53,">>94365640 >includes an automatic and involuntary transfer of my property to said agency What are you talking about? It isn't ""your property"" in the first place - it only becomes your property when the state establishes property rights and you obtain the rights over said property within the bounds of whatever system the state has set up. There are two ways to look at reliability. One is that having a lot of men with weapons supporting the system within which your property rights exists is at the very least more reliable than just having to protect resources yourself or with the aid of a small community. The second way to consider it is the economic argument I explained; the state has an incentive to do well (e.g., create an environment for productivity) lest it be conquered or collapse from within. >Your property rights do not require a state to be legitimate, even if the state were the only possible way to enforce them practically. Where do these rights come from if not from the state? >Your house doesn't belong to you for the reason that the state enforces your claim and since the state only enforces your claim after expropriating a portion of your property, The only ""rights"" I have without the state are those I can enforce myself; without a state, a right is just a capability. I can claim and try to protect land, for instance, but there's no reason to expect people to go along with my idea of what I deserve just because I say so. So I can claim some land; but the state can claim it too. The state overpowers subjects, who either resist and are destroyed, or who co-operate. So the state owns everything. The state then reapportions rights within the bounds of the system it has established and only at that stage do I have property rights in any meaningful sense. >it's a contradiction to claim that property rights come from the state or are even compatible with it. I think I've demonstrated well enough that there's no contradiction.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477305473 94359407,94366480,2016-10-24 10:39:15,">>94365892 The authority of the state.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477305555 94359407,94366507,2016-10-24 10:39:33,">>94365968 Oh, right, your little farm is totally going to be worth that risk. >>94366127 Considering that statism is failing, I find it funny that people think that attempting to have a morally consistent society can't work. Especially ""religious"" people who just don't understand that anarcho-capitalism is just consistent application of Do Not Steal and Do Not Murder.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477305573 94359407,94366551,2016-10-24 10:40:04,>>94359407,,Anonymous,1474298322269.png,Yx0GIn7cz5ABR+erkCavRA==,AU,,1477305604 94359407,94366611,2016-10-24 10:40:52,>>94366551,,Anonymous,1474298233557.jpg,ZHFYVxnt9r1BQgcZajskjA==,AU,,1477305652 94359407,94366972,2016-10-24 10:45:25,">>94359604 >>94359729 >>94360478 >>94360655 >>94360821 >>94360882 >>94361256 >>94361427 >>94361612 >>94361752 >>94362015 >>94362114 >>94362602 >>94362674 >>94362709 >>94362991 >>94363350 >>94363567 >>94363884 >>94364524 >>94364770 >>94365418 >>94366551 >>94366611 >when illegal immigrants are raping your kids and you can't do anything about it because they're poor people who haven't had sex in MONTHS so your kids should lend their orifices also we should throw money at them because wow they spent all their money on assault rifles to slaughter our people also wow fuck you for being racist and trying to defend your kids it's not like they belong to you so we'll force them into public school and brainwash them into transgender transexual leftards because it's not like you can educate them yourself anyway you spend all your day at work and so does your ex wife that divorced you just because she can and doesn't give a shit about family values and we don't care if you're too scared to let your kids walk to school on their own they'll only get raped but it's okay it won't be the first time and it's for their own good because they need to figure out sexuality and their gender very early and wow it's 2016 already multiculturalism is great anyway and you can be pretty sure their teachers will rape them too and they'll die of aids because healthcare has gone to shit hospitals are closing down and there's a shortage of doctors I mean we had to help all those poor niggers doing social tourism in Europe and they have priority because those poor people come from war zones and your kids aren't very sick anyway just make sure they take their hormones every morning and don't think about doing anything to rebel or even have any kind of bad words about anyone because the police and army are defending poor refugees against you so they can enjoy a happy life with free housing while you work extra days to pay for their welfare you fucking racist sexist ableist white cis male scum",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1477305925 94359407,94367230,2016-10-24 10:48:24,">>94364772 Are you clinically retarded? Without private property there is no ""proletariat"" and there are no ""capital owners"". Without private property, there is no such thing as ""hiring security"" since hiring is a financial transaction, hence presupposes property rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477306104 94359407,94367423,2016-10-24 10:50:41,">>94364248 >>94365549 You're not an ""anarcho-capitalist"". You're some sort of solipsistic narcissist. Which is a personality disorder, not a political philosophy.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477306241 94359407,94367530,2016-10-24 10:52:03,">>94366972 >I'm not good at believable strawman arguments.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477306323 94359407,94367553,2016-10-24 10:52:17,">>94366972 (You) (You) (You) That was my entirely weekly ration; you're welcome.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477306337 94359407,94367575,2016-10-24 10:52:32,">>94366360 You are confusing the power to enforce rigths with the moral validity of a claim. A house you built on homesteaded land doesn't belong to you because the state enforces your claim. If the state tried to enforce someone else's claim on your house, it wouldn't magically negate your property rights. You would be morally justified to protect your property against the state. Property rights can be logically deduced from self-ownership. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tobN6iY4iIs",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477306352 94359407,94367734,2016-10-24 10:54:30,do ancaps recognise the fact that most property wasnt homesteaded but taken because muh might = right? that the wealth in todays world is mostly inherited from statist pillaging and theft? how would this be addressed when transitioning to ancaptopia?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477306470 94359407,94368081,2016-10-24 10:58:31,">>94367530 >believable strawman arguments I hope you're kidding. Because none of what I write is even fiction at this point. Which is what pushes people to anarchy. Because there is nothing to lose anymore, no roads, decent careers, healthcare, nor even territory. We already lost all that. Everything is compromised. Ancap is hell, but with both hands free. Reality is hell, and our hands are tied.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1477306711 94359407,94368322,2016-10-24 11:01:10,">>94359854 better not risk it",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477306870 94359407,94368339,2016-10-24 11:01:25,">>94363644 whos is this annoying whore",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1477306885 94359407,94368724,2016-10-24 11:06:02,">>94360293 fuck you",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477307162 94359407,94368872,2016-10-24 11:07:45,">>94367423 >implying ""solipsistic narcissists"" don't exist in the real world >anything inconvenient for my ideology is the result of a ""personality disorder"" >>94367575 >You are confusing the power to enforce rigths with the moral validity of a claim. What is the difference between ""power to enforce"" and ""moral validity""? Do you think unenforceable morals are more valid than morals backed by force? Is the claim of the vanquished more valid than that of the vanquisher? Only one remains to declare his legitimacy, his moral validity. >A house you built on homesteaded land Homesteading has been policy adopted by a number of states whereby the state ""releases"" land for settlement by whoever shows up first. It's just one method which the state can use to apportion property rights. >doesn't belong to you because the state enforces your claim. I don't see how I could be sure it belonged to me at all without the state granting me rights to it. With no state involved, if somebody else claims land and tries to take it, I am going to want something a bit more substantial than ""rights"" with which to defend my claim. >You would be morally justified to protect your property against the state. Moral justification aside (because I don't think it's a useful term, since you haven't defined at all, let alone in a mutually acceptable way), I think you'd have to be stupid indeed to try to fight the state on your own, and you'd very well deserve the imprisonment or ignominious death that would be your reward. >Property rights can be logically deduced from self-ownership. And self-ownership can be logically deduced from ...?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477307265 94359407,94369011,2016-10-24 11:09:22,">>94367575 how is it valid that property rights should be indefinitely transferred across generations? if, over generations, a family uses their established wealth to grow even more wealth, doesnt this lead to an eventual situation where a small percent of the population hoards the wealth/ land/ resources, forcing the propertyless class to do what theyre told or go fuck themselves? what validity does a descendant's claim over land have if their labour was never involved in its acquisition?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477307362 94359407,94369053,2016-10-24 11:09:55,"The only argument against AnCap is >I wish to be enslaved That is an argument I will never make Non Serviam",,Anonymous,IMG_20160825_184544.jpg,UlscOlbV0MddTq9ktETGKA==,US,,1477307395 94359407,94369173,2016-10-24 11:11:17,">>94367575 >Arbitrarily assumes the intrinsic right to property, when rights themselves are arbitrary constructions provided by a set of laws or regulations upheld by a state.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1477307477 94359407,94369499,2016-10-24 11:15:13,">>94360293 That was clever m8",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1477307713 94359407,94369578,2016-10-24 11:16:12,>an-com logic,,Anonymous,1.jpg,s3/nVVHTG1wdVo8tGasDOQ==,US,,1477307772 94359407,94369747,2016-10-24 11:18:09,">>94369011 What is the problem with intergenerational accumulation of wealth? Is posterity not a leading incentive for productivity? >what validity does a descendant's claim over land have if their labour was never involved in its acquisition? 1) As an extension of the rights of the original creator of value - I decide that the property that I've laboured on should go to my great-great-grandson, regardless of whether or not you think he deserves it; it's my land, not yours. 2) At least a descendant is connected to the original creator of value - whatever petty validity his claim has, it's surely more than exists in the claim of some stranger. 3) What determines capacity to create value and to accumulate wealth? Surely genes, upbringing, long-term planning, etc., are an important part of it - these are things that make the original creator of value ""deserving"", but they are also passed down the line, so his descendants have at least some of the same desert.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477307889 94359407,94369751,2016-10-24 11:18:10,">>94360293 You cant stop the cat.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477307890 94359407,94369760,2016-10-24 11:18:13,">>94359407 too bad humans aren't logical beings",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1477307893 94359407,94369851,2016-10-24 11:19:12,">>94369173 By this logic ""human rights"" aren't a thing. I mean, how could a Government abuse the human rights of its people if ""rights"" are just ""what the government lets you do""?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477307952 94359407,94370042,2016-10-24 11:21:32,">>94369173 They are not Rights are natural and it's obvious why when you take your head out your ass: Would you like to get murdered? Would you like to get stolen from? Would you like to be forced to do things against your will? Consider these answers and why you answered that way. The conclusion is that natural rights exist because human beings have a natural instinct to live, to protect their property and to be free from coercion.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477308092 94359407,94370064,2016-10-24 11:21:42,">>94369053 Silly. >I wish to be enslaved Why can't you sell yourself in to slavery in an ancap society? And what about this argument: >I wish to enslave.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477308102 94359407,94370116,2016-10-24 11:22:19,">>94369578 Kek, any more like this?",,Anonymous,lel.png,yJZy0xVza4WD1/+We5u3Xw==,GB,,1477308139 94359407,94370266,2016-10-24 11:23:53,">>94370042 >The conclusion is that natural rights exist No, the conclusion is that I need some way to protect myself from being murdered, robbed, or forced to do unpleasant things; perhaps a weapon, or perhaps a state. Fairy-tales like ""natural rights"" certainly won't do, at least not on their own. They might be a useful propaganda tool, though.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477308233 94359407,94370323,2016-10-24 11:24:28,">>94367734 Do you have a source for your claim that most property was acquired by use of force? I'm not denying that some of it was, especially when you consider certain very old and rich families. But I doubt that most property was acquired that way. In any case, ancaps don't really seek to overturn current systems, they mostly want to establish new ones, like private cities, and be left the fuck alone.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477308268 94359407,94370410,2016-10-24 11:25:30,">>94369851 >Human rights aren't a thing This is a correct representation of my position. Human rights are nothing more than arbitrary rules agreed upon by a series of legislative bodies. We live in an ethical vacuum, and the only thing that decides and ensures any arbitrary set of rules is the ruling body. I challenge you to give me a non-god argument for absolute ethics. If you choose a god-based arguments, you will also need to provide evidence for this god. My position is solid. The ""absolute rights""-position is not.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1477308330 94359407,94370420,2016-10-24 11:25:37,">>94369851 Human rights aren't a thing. This hoo-ha about ""human rights abuses"" is simply propaganda used by one state, or a group of states, to gain leverage over competitors.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477308337 94359407,94370531,2016-10-24 11:26:46,">>94359407 False. 2+2=4",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1477308406 94359407,94370541,2016-10-24 11:26:52,">>94370323 >and be left the fuck alone. And how does one achieve this?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477308412 94359407,94370569,2016-10-24 11:27:10,">>94370266 Where did you get the idea that natural rights and ownership of weapons are mutually exclusive?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477308430 94359407,94370700,2016-10-24 11:28:38,">>94370541 By living somewhere free of a coercive government.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477308518 94359407,94370804,2016-10-24 11:29:41,">>94370420 There is a difference between what Ancaps consider rights and what the UN and other regimes consider rights",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477308581 94359407,94370865,2016-10-24 11:30:25,">>94370569 I said no such thing. But if I have a good weapon, why should I care for ""natural rights""? >>94370700 And how does one achieve this? >>94370804 There's a similarity, too: it's all hot air.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477308625 94359407,94371062,2016-10-24 11:32:35,">>94367575 >Property rights can be logically deduced from self-ownership. Dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477308755 94359407,94371179,2016-10-24 11:33:53,">>94359407 >Ancap is best ideology >Not Anfash GTFO kid this is an Anarcho-Fascist thread now",,Anonymous,anfa.png,QV95oP7wP2eEvoDmj3vvcQ==,BR,,1477308833 94359407,94371258,2016-10-24 11:34:43,">>94359854 u're a fugger :DDDDDDDDD",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477308883 94359407,94371313,2016-10-24 11:35:14,">>94360293 FUGG :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477308914 94359407,94372093,2016-10-24 11:43:19,">>94369747 the problem with intergenerational property rights is that land is finite and humans aren't. the endpoint of this reality combined with the bizarre view that a farmer's labour should grant ownership of land for his lineage till the end of time is what you see around us today: wealthy financial dynasties own everything that matters and the rest of us must obey their authority or we're simply denied access to resources/ means of production. also vaginas make men produce more than muh land ever could",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477309399 94359407,94372192,2016-10-24 11:44:23,">>94370865 Because other people with weapons care for their rights You achieve it, like I said, for example by creating a private city It's not hot air. It's natural behaviour, unlike the shit the UN is doing.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477309463 94359407,94372647,2016-10-24 11:48:48,">>94372093 Humans are very finite, we usually last around 80-100 years. The notion that land or property will forever stay in the same families possession is utter nonsense. People have different desires and abilities, causing them to fail or to sell for all kinds of reasons. It's also simply not happening in reality. There is a shitload of land all over the world that is not owned by anyone but the government. Yet somehow you argue that without government, a few rich entities would own all the land. How does that make sense?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477309728 94359407,94373082,2016-10-24 11:52:58,">>94372192 >Because other people with weapons care for their rights I'm more concerned about their weapons than their ""rights"". >You achieve it, like I said, for example by creating a private city No, see, you're saying what you would like to do, but you're not explaining how it could be done. >It's not hot air. Show me a ""natural right"". What does a ""natural right"" look like? >>94372093 >the problem with intergenerational property rights is that land is finite and humans aren't Of course humans are finite. At the very least the number of humans is limited by the amount of land. >the bizarre view that a farmer's labour should grant ownership of land Perhaps the problem is with the labour theory of value rather than with inheritance. >wealthy financial dynasties own everything that matters and the rest of us must obey their authority or we're simply denied access to resources/ means of production. I'm materially better off as a result of this system than I could reasonably expect to be were it abolished. The same is true for many millions of people. But, most importantly, it has to be true for those you claim ""own everything that matters"". Why should they want to give up their position? In any event, the entirety of human evolution and history has been as fair a competition as can be; it's really your problem if your ancestors were losers.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477309978 94359407,94373323,2016-10-24 11:55:11,">>94373082 >labour theory of value Sorry; I mean the labour theory of property, i.e., Locke's idea of mixing.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477310111 94359407,94373585,2016-10-24 11:57:42,">>94373082 It doesn't matter what you are concerned about as long as it keeps you from initiating violence. Private cities could be created by buying land and sovereignty rights from a state and then building a city. Google it. Show me a state. What does a state look like? Will this devolve into a contest of nay saying?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477310262 94359407,94373628,2016-10-24 11:58:02,">>94359854 I wish this facebook meme would end",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1477310282 94359407,94373758,2016-10-24 11:59:10,">>94371179 What is that shit about? Fascism was essentially against anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,HU,,1477310350 94359407,94374802,2016-10-24 12:07:28,">>94373585 >It doesn't matter what you are concerned about as long as it keeps you from initiating violence. Are you not here admitting that force and coercion provide the answer to the problem of competing interests? Power is the determinant of behaviour here. Mythical ""natural rights"" are irrelevant. >Private cities could be created by buying land and sovereignty rights from a state and then building a city. Which states are selling sovereignty at the moment? Doesn't sovereignty make your city a state? How is replacing an existing state with a different one not ""overturning current systems""? Why should you expect to be left alone once you have founded your city-state? How will you ensure that other states respect your sovereignty? >Show me a state. What does a state look like? You can see the organs of the state, and you can feel them, too, if you decide that the state doesn't exist and act accordingly.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477310848 94359407,94376044,2016-10-24 12:16:50,">>94359407 The fact that there's no high-achieving, highly-functioning AnCap or AnCap-like society on the planet right now is a very logical argument against it.",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1477311410 94359407,94376487,2016-10-24 12:19:24,">>94376044 There's no high-achieving, highly-functioning society on the planet right now.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477311564 94359407,94376905,2016-10-24 12:22:23,">>94374802 Force yes, coercion no. When I have a well guarded house I am not coercing you to leave me alone. As to private cities, just Google it m8. Everything you asked is explained. You can feel naturally rights exist too if you don't act accordingly.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477311743 94359407,94377299,2016-10-24 12:25:21,">>94376044 So space travel not existing right now is a logical argument against it? Internet not existing 50 years ago was a logical argument against it? Anyway, there have been societies that could be considered ancap or at least stateless, such as medieval iceland: https://mises.org/library/medieval-iceland-and-absence-government",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477311921 94359407,94377417,2016-10-24 12:26:25,">>94376905 >Force yes, coercion no. >When I have a well guarded house I am not coercing you to leave me alone. Coercion is the use of force to alter behaviour. If I wanted to go in to your house and I was deterred by the guards, that would be coercion. >As to private cities, just Google it m8. Everything you asked is explained. Personally I'm in favour of conquering anarchist and secessionist communities. They'll be small and weak, so we should just take over and loot them. >You can feel naturally rights exist too if you don't act accordingly. No, I can't feel ""natural rights"". They're not going to clap me in irons or throw me in gaol. Anyway, I'm going to sleep. Read Leviathan and God save the Queen.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477311985 94359407,94377539,2016-10-24 12:27:28,">>94377299 Fine, a parting shot: Where is mediaeval Iceland now? What happened in Iceland?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477312048 94359407,94377554,2016-10-24 12:27:34,">>94359854 But my Mom didn't violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,IE,,1477312054 94359407,94377603,2016-10-24 12:27:53,">>94359407 this is true. AnCap also has the best memes.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1477312073 94359407,94377808,2016-10-24 12:29:39,">>94371179 Explain.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1477312179 94359407,94377947,2016-10-24 12:30:44,">>94364399 >A >FUCKING >CHRISTMAS PRESENT",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477312244 94359407,94377951,2016-10-24 12:30:45,">>94359854 NICE",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1477312245 94359407,94377990,2016-10-24 12:31:00,,,Anonymous,martinmeme.jpg,tkjZuG9Wc2P2RG0nSwSVkQ==,CA,,1477312260 94359407,94378174,2016-10-24 12:32:04,">>94377299 The main principles of AnCap is not exactly rocket science. Like that ancient Icelanders you cited. But where are these societies nowadays? They got wiped by stronger, better civilisations. They didn't survive. I'm not saying this as some sort of ultimate answer. But it is a logical argument against AnCap.",,Anonymous,,,ID,,1477312324 94359407,94378218,2016-10-24 12:32:26,,,Anonymous,57221850.jpg,BdedV8A4Dp0DVfUVajuMTw==,BE,,1477312346 94359407,94378474,2016-10-24 12:33:54,">>94359854 Better to die in sleep than a car crash",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477312434 94359407,94378621,2016-10-24 12:35:00,,,Anonymous,edd.jpg,DMgmwPgEx3Xx04/ffVg66A==,BE,,1477312500 94359407,94378815,2016-10-24 12:36:56,">>94360655 You know oceans would be privatized aswell, don't you?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1477312616 94359407,94378947,2016-10-24 12:38:14,,,Anonymous,cpdgkgx.jpg,YsKMp1KblJpjQaWJoxU/CQ==,BE,,1477312694 94359407,94379012,2016-10-24 12:38:53,"Quick, can someone tell me which Law and Order to watch? I heard that season 1 of the original series was extremely redpilled.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477312733 94359407,94379030,2016-10-24 12:39:01,">>94366972 lets be friends",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477312741 94359407,94379090,2016-10-24 12:39:36,">>94361159 i was listening to one of his podcasts with joe rogan and he said that to build a """"""national"""""" defense the people need to contribute cash annually to fund nukes kind of like taxes",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477312776 94359407,94379696,2016-10-24 12:45:46,">>94359854 FUCK YOU. YOU DIE.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1477313146 94359407,94379741,2016-10-24 12:46:18,">>94360562 ebin",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477313178 94359407,94380784,2016-10-24 12:55:46,">>94359407 fuck the internet and jews, centralization of power sucks.",,Anonymous,1352911513940.jpg,a5dZiGervLHvn6QMqzRXpw==,US,,1477313746 94359407,94380825,2016-10-24 12:56:07,>>94360293,,Anonymous,,,GR,,1477313767 94359407,94381313,2016-10-24 13:00:12,">>94359854 Fuckk",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477314012 94359407,94381912,2016-10-24 13:05:12,">>94359854 Seppo",,Anonymous,1465977353923.png,NbE6bBq0hpAuE5XMF04xeA==,US,,1477314312 94359407,94383993,2016-10-24 13:24:07,">>94359407 > Best ideology > ancap only exists on the internet",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1477315447 94359407,94384036,2016-10-24 13:24:33,">>94359854 faggot [spoiler:lit] KEK [/spoiler:lit]",,Anonymous,CqgLZEqUIAAHNn5.png,c8dy/Y3/uNrgQFdqpB45/Q==,ES,,1477315473 94359407,94384057,2016-10-24 13:24:42,">>94367230 You said that freedom is incompatible with property rights. Since state is only thing which is only thing which enforces property rights, I am making an argument that property rights can enforced without a state. I didn't argue that without property rights there are no property rights. But let's address your other arguments: >Without private property there is no ""proletariat"" and there are no ""capital owners"". Hierarchical order is natural in human relations, there is always some verticality in them. Even if property belongs to commune rather than individual, organization of resources and production requires hierarchy between members of community. This wouldn't be applicable in only very primitive tribal society, where is produce is very basic and requires no coordination. >Without private property, there is no such thing as ""hiring security"" since hiring is a financial transaction, hence presupposes property rights. I don't know where did you try to go with this.",,Anonymous,,,LT,,1477315482 94359407,94384207,2016-10-24 13:26:06,">>94360293 boi",,Anonymous,,,BG,,1477315566 94359407,94384230,2016-10-24 13:26:15,">>94359854 k",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1477315575 94359407,94384539,2016-10-24 13:28:58,">>94360562 I just love this man.",,Anonymous,Hoppe's physical removal services.png,0fpQjHzGCQC1ZRyq/AR5SQ==,GB,,1477315738 94359407,94385300,2016-10-24 13:35:12,">>94359854 fucking solid",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477316112 94359407,94385651,2016-10-24 13:37:40,">>94361057 It looks like a female Reviewbrah",,Anonymous,,,US,,1477316260 94359407,94385851,2016-10-24 13:39:28,">>94368872 >And self-ownership can be logically deduced from ...? Nothing. You'll always have a moral starting point. >inb4 various /x/ theories about collective consciousness Self-possession is the moral beginning of ""ancap"" and only points a desirability.",,Anonymous,hoppe senpai.jpg,5cA9H0d3GtVsxAbeSxsUwg==,GB,,1477316368 94359407,94386726,2016-10-24 13:47:14,">>94377417 Coercion is initiating violence to get someone to act a certain way. It is active. You can absolutely feel them when you get shot for trying to loot and conquer anarchist societies.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477316834 94359407,94386785,2016-10-24 13:47:46,">>94363762 you hired all of humanity?",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1477316866 94359407,94387079,2016-10-24 13:50:19,">>94377539 The article states that eventually 5 families conspired to take over control, at which point the people revolted and a civil war happened. That was after over 300 years of mostly peaceful stateless existence. The US didn't manage 100 years before a civil war despite having a very powerful constitution. Now point me to where Ancaps claim that ancap societies would magically last forever and be immune to any instability or being destroyed.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477317019 94359407,94387546,2016-10-24 13:54:16,">>94378174 Medieval iceland was not conquered by a stronger civ. Ancaps don't claim that our societies are immune to aggression. Governments are much more likely to engage in warfare in the first place, making them more likely to be conquered. Centralised power structures are also easier to subvert or destroy. If you hold your argument to be logical, the same logic would forbid you from doing literally anything that might not succeed under certain conditions.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477317256 94359407,94387701,2016-10-24 13:55:45,">>94379090 Do you know the meaning of the word 'voluntary'?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1477317345 94359407,94388796,2016-10-24 14:05:26,">>94365892 the catholic church",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1477317926 99601020,99601020,2016-11-21 13:52:25,,AnCap General,Anonymous,roads.jpg,hqtd5z2vNFi9i4WXuCFYiA==,UA,,1479736345 99601020,99601363,2016-11-21 13:55:34,/pol/ is pro-State now that their pet millionaire is the new Jew puppet figurehead.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1479736534 99601020,99601561,2016-11-21 13:57:14,>Being pro-open borders,,Anonymous,,,US,,1479736634 99601020,99602297,2016-11-21 14:03:17,"ancap memes are the best thing to happen to /pol/ not even the best finnish memesters could hope to compare",,Anonymous,1479435136568.png,XBSbEuNDqcmmXdxWzgpPHw==,US,,1479736997 99601020,99602494,2016-11-21 14:04:49,">>99601561 >no welfare state >the owner of your community has no reason to let shit people in",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1479737089 99601020,99602632,2016-11-21 14:05:58,,,Anonymous,1479436329035.png,cC5m5zMvko1seRrhxq1dGw==,US,,1479737158 99601020,99602684,2016-11-21 14:06:24,,,Anonymous,1479436346708.jpg,uCawh1wfHABqOXNtXM1u2Q==,US,,1479737184 99601020,99602744,2016-11-21 14:06:50,,,Anonymous,1479436364279.jpg,zJL+LOsCZzqxSsM7TzTJtA==,US,,1479737210 99601020,99602792,2016-11-21 14:07:12,,,Anonymous,1479436382691.jpg,ndiy7bsI+F2YjtvwOLxt1g==,US,,1479737232 99601020,99602822,2016-11-21 14:07:30,,,Anonymous,1479436400386.jpg,1qfLR1kpoV6dXvD/vW36dA==,US,,1479737250 99601020,99602893,2016-11-21 14:08:03,,,Anonymous,1479436418862.png,wKRj4dNj9MfxJaYy6qPErg==,US,,1479737283 99601020,99602937,2016-11-21 14:08:24,">>99601020 Anarcho-anythings are hopelessly naïve. Minarchism is the way to go. Bring on the night-watchman state.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479737304 99601020,99602956,2016-11-21 14:08:33,,,Anonymous,1479436436715.jpg,oW4/SnmWjHJ3UXAFhV97AA==,US,,1479737313 99601020,99602995,2016-11-21 14:08:53,,,Anonymous,1479436454471.png,8GwAQrgs5u3bupRiZs6CjQ==,US,,1479737333 99601020,99603045,2016-11-21 14:09:15,,,Anonymous,1479436475132.jpg,b3IwSQNkexW9rq4Da0zvww==,US,,1479737355 99601020,99603089,2016-11-21 14:09:33,,,Anonymous,1479436505898.jpg,wmqikkl2vfQI+pWxtCyz7A==,US,,1479737373 99601020,99603107,2016-11-21 14:09:45,">>99602893 what",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479737385 99601020,99603127,2016-11-21 14:09:50,">>99602937 >Bring on the night-watchman state. That would be fine, too.",,Anonymous,,,UA,,1479737390 99601020,99603149,2016-11-21 14:09:59,,,Anonymous,1479436524784.jpg,GDF6RPIIqrQidMZFHq3qNw==,US,,1479737399 99601020,99603215,2016-11-21 14:10:24,,,Anonymous,1479436542396.jpg,56rtRCGpQw/YOtecRGeT+A==,US,,1479737424 99601020,99603250,2016-11-21 14:10:46,,,Anonymous,1479436560394.jpg,92NQT4QjiK/PU3nT6ZJKcQ==,US,,1479737446 99601020,99603285,2016-11-21 14:11:03,,,Anonymous,1479436598116.jpg,OMVnX8rhBoI1/bRkgARXYA==,US,,1479737463 99601020,99603323,2016-11-21 14:11:20,">>99602822 kek",,Anonymous,,,CO,,1479737480 99601020,99603328,2016-11-21 14:11:21,,,Anonymous,1479436620408.jpg,SXeegF0ZCjx3H8MwOIHAMQ==,US,,1479737481 99601020,99603380,2016-11-21 14:11:52,,,Anonymous,1479436643424.jpg,GsGFr/ssXSp51gYUNkdJ6Q==,US,,1479737512 99601020,99603410,2016-11-21 14:12:10,,,Anonymous,1479436707949.png,ZrLD28w66qTdGFLrbl9tXw==,US,,1479737530 99601020,99603474,2016-11-21 14:12:37,,,Anonymous,1479436804436.jpg,JBhsH7oz62OZ3CLirgNUYA==,US,,1479737557 99601020,99603547,2016-11-21 14:13:08,,,Anonymous,1479440549039.jpg,BCsGX0HDysx0o7sfoMiWqQ==,US,,1479737588 99601020,99603610,2016-11-21 14:13:44,,,Anonymous,1479439016838.jpg,mTySdlxTylraDqX/7obzMw==,US,,1479737624 99601020,99603667,2016-11-21 14:14:09,,,Anonymous,1479433203585.png,44Ni5aSgpzw5W5Gynv1nqQ==,US,,1479737649 99601020,99603676,2016-11-21 14:14:13,>>99601020,,Anonymous,1478907738798.jpg,o4H+KjoST4dixis3pY4bBA==,US,,1479737653 99601020,99603749,2016-11-21 14:14:45,Ancap master race reporting in,,Anonymous,,,RU,,1479737685 99601020,99603788,2016-11-21 14:15:07,">>99603667 >>99603676 Well damm, beaten by two seconds",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479737707 99601020,99603792,2016-11-21 14:15:07,"You need to cease and desist this thread immediately, or you will be prosecuted for defamation of the AnCap movement. My McLaywer-Mercenaries will speak with you in the morning.",,Anonymous,1472319499685.png,QILA7f3zpVLC86b1/CgD0g==,GB,,1479737707 99601020,99603977,2016-11-21 14:16:22,>>99603792,,Anonymous,1477753820364.jpg,uh10+5FljbVrurVRcLDUdw==,CA,,1479737782 99601020,99604039,2016-11-21 14:16:47,"out of ancap there are more in the archive that i'll get later for now here's an assorted bag of other ideologies let's start with my favorite, anarcho primitivism",,Anonymous,1479436794720.png,CuDhrJS8dpu6bbcSfCuZ3A==,US,,1479737807 99601020,99604076,2016-11-21 14:17:05,,,Anonymous,1479436812432.jpg,CX+kkJa5rVYI/DJFHlBsQg==,US,,1479737825 99601020,99604077,2016-11-21 14:17:05,>>99603215,,Exa,1479670515644.jpg,2erqFoRnh6YXAAwueHRKiw==,DE,,1479737825 99601020,99604120,2016-11-21 14:17:26,,,Anonymous,1479436838882.png,L6HgDGG30yYE1NHoEMUn0w==,US,,1479737846 99601020,99604151,2016-11-21 14:17:40,>>99601020,,Anonymous,image.jpg,NCPY/73WozGZ7FkQ0w3CjA==,US,,1479737860 99601020,99604165,2016-11-21 14:17:45,,,Anonymous,1479436863883.jpg,C5y/IIJYvBMh4IKMbWy2eQ==,US,,1479737865 99601020,99604215,2016-11-21 14:18:10,">>99603127 Wher my fellow slav ancap at?",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1479737890 99601020,99604265,2016-11-21 14:18:31,">>99604077 This one's good",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1479737911 99601020,99604269,2016-11-21 14:18:32,">>99604151 That's enough",,Anonymous,1479573032047.jpg,Bb6QA/ZZuuf+09oIcDYFbA==,CA,,1479737912 99601020,99604273,2016-11-21 14:18:33,anpac,,Anonymous,1479436759385.jpg,Hue4Ms/VLuL6MaUTFA6Udw==,US,,1479737913 99601020,99604382,2016-11-21 14:19:30,,,Anonymous,1479437839340.png,coKBIyeYORL+xcShBTs/Ig==,US,,1479737970 99601020,99604485,2016-11-21 14:20:22,ancom,,Anonymous,1479436741372.png,he/gGlG9TI2+L0vWEjOqsQ==,US,,1479738022 99601020,99604515,2016-11-21 14:20:35,">>99602937 >Bring on the night-watchman state. a polite way to say, the police state",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1479738035 99601020,99604543,2016-11-21 14:20:54,democrat,,Anonymous,1479437996486.jpg,KMoakEPR9kw1hqYj08mUxA==,US,,1479738054 99601020,99604618,2016-11-21 14:21:31,anqueer,,Anonymous,1479436875171.png,Xwi2IeqZsBX0mq4iOxkolw==,US,,1479738091 99601020,99604632,2016-11-21 14:21:39,">>99603328 my sides",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479738099 99601020,99604649,2016-11-21 14:21:49,,,Anonymous,1479436907109.jpg,7nLu6o/bhcdjVGXq/t1aZA==,US,,1479738109 99601020,99604698,2016-11-21 14:22:09,,,Anonymous,1479436924470.png,2EMA14ofKLfBTE9wV1SC3w==,US,,1479738129 99601020,99604713,2016-11-21 14:22:15,">>99604485 >Using a gun without all getting in a line so that the bullet can be equally distributed to the commune Get the fuck away from me you capitalist pig!",,Anonymous,14021709_1173926229326340_3273526020076780460_n.jpg,VFFXFHaTmG/i66/KBQByTA==,GB,,1479738135 99601020,99604764,2016-11-21 14:22:38,">>99602494 Except for all those shitskins that are willing to work at slave labor But that's okay because lmao it's legit competition *sucks big black cock*",,Anonymous,1462556788029.jpg,asMTqi7QCZAlDLavrwrdyg==,DE,,1479738158 99601020,99604816,2016-11-21 14:23:01,,,Anonymous,guns.jpg,Z3M/WREn9dlh+hw9bzGAyA==,GB,,1479738181 99601020,99604828,2016-11-21 14:23:08,">>99601020 Not gonna lie, this thread is making ancap sound pretty fun to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479738188 99601020,99604840,2016-11-21 14:23:17,,,Anonymous,1463056281569.jpg,8dkMe+YEWmwkXWvZ3RGiCA==,DE,,1479738197 99601020,99604841,2016-11-21 14:23:18,">>99604515 No, complete opposite",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1479738198 99601020,99604884,2016-11-21 14:23:35,,,Anonymous,1464310408444.jpg,+0TJzNZmAUG92answoLGLw==,DE,,1479738215 99601020,99604937,2016-11-21 14:24:02,>>99604840,,Anonymous,Untitled5.png,okbkevEqZbQEbHNRtKiJBw==,GB,,1479738242 99601020,99605004,2016-11-21 14:24:35,,,Anonymous,1465226109190.jpg,7cIn7knCyQq8hAU+PvZ4ZA==,DE,,1479738275 99601020,99605073,2016-11-21 14:25:00,,,Anonymous,IMG_0221.jpg,5W8zn0G3/lt0ugWxuhykJA==,US,,1479738300 99601020,99605121,2016-11-21 14:25:21,,,Anonymous,1464592417694.jpg,NSqlO/cqzbziH09glCi80Q==,DE,,1479738321 99601020,99605184,2016-11-21 14:25:52,>>99604649,,Anonymous,1479756109028.jpg,lW25EkZtVDkLi0OQHoaMGQ==,US,,1479738352 99601020,99605194,2016-11-21 14:25:57,">>99604077 >>99604265 and totally true",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1479738357 99601020,99605259,2016-11-21 14:26:32,">>99604515 >>99604841 A night-watchman state is one which only handles the very minimal functions of governance. Police and courts to maintain the peace, a military for national defense, and possible some other services like fire departments and the like. But otherwise, it takes a role of non-interference in the lives of the citizenry. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night-watchman_state",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479738392 99601020,99605366,2016-11-21 14:27:26,,,Anonymous,1479668659439.jpg,LEAcPX4sH2bVShpVphJCMw==,SE,,1479738446 99601020,99605615,2016-11-21 14:29:13,">>99601020 Zozzel xD Zozzel",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479738553 99601020,99605627,2016-11-21 14:29:19,">>99601363 >Rothbard >Rand >Mises >Hayek >Friedman >not Jewish",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479738559 99601020,99605781,2016-11-21 14:30:39,">>99604764 Why not use brown people as slaves? The part where we fucked up was givimg them all rights.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479738639 99601020,99606101,2016-11-21 14:33:27,">>99604649 LOL",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479738807 99601020,99606823,2016-11-21 14:39:24,">>99604764 How are his property borders different from state boarders?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479739164 99601020,99606843,2016-11-21 14:39:33,">>99605259 There was a period in history already where the state provided security services and little else, it was called feudalism.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1479739173 99601020,99606932,2016-11-21 14:40:17,">>99601363 most of /pol/ have no idea what they're talking about, they think national socialism is right wing",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1479739217 99601020,99606953,2016-11-21 14:40:31,">>99604840 This is dumb. Might = right",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479739231 99601020,99607213,2016-11-21 14:42:38,">>99605366 This is where I come to find peace. /pol/ is my happy place.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479739358 99601020,99607491,2016-11-21 14:45:00,">>99601020 Daily reminder that all capitalists are Liberals Daily reminder that 'national socialism' was in fact capitalist social democracy Keynesianism only without the pretend democracy. Economically, you're either a commie or some degree of Liberal. Hitlers policies were closer to classical Liberalism than Socialism.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1479739500 99601020,99607772,2016-11-21 14:47:16,">>99604828 I'm deep into lolbertarianism and made some of those posted ITT.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1479739636 99601020,99608009,2016-11-21 14:49:06,">>99607772 Noice. Really though, becoming a warlord does sound pretty fucking fun. Surely I'm not the only one thinking this?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479739746 99601020,99608195,2016-11-21 14:50:45,">>99608009 Depending on your state, you are already halfway in ancapism compared to the rest of the world.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1479739845 99601020,99608455,2016-11-21 14:52:57,">>99608009 Just move to Somalia or Haiti and knock yourself out. Heck even Brazil has places with no state authority to hold you accountable for your rape spree.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1479739977 99601020,99608814,2016-11-21 14:56:09,"AnCaps have been part of /pol/ since all the way back in the days of /n/, tbqh. Newfags don't seem to understand this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479740169 99601020,99608965,2016-11-21 14:57:28,">>99608195 Missouri fag, in a libshit city that hates cops and underfunds our police department, so you're somewhat right. >state just passed permitless concealed carry >private sale of funs without background check >atleast 15 minute police response times where I live, probably more >pseudo stand your ground laws >castle doctrine Feels pretty good man. Kinda makes me conflicted being natsoc and all.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479740248 99601020,99609511,2016-11-21 15:02:09,">>99608965 Don't worry. You're on your way.",,Anonymous,last stage of redpill.png,hoAecKPjbt7U2Jqhfwk81A==,GB,,1479740529 99601020,99610280,2016-11-21 15:08:57,">>99603977 E T E R N A L T E R N A L",,Anonymous,,,US,,1479740937 99601020,99611131,2016-11-21 15:15:55,"I get that anarchy is a very nice idea. I even think it might be best for humanity if we were all living in an anarchic society. But my question is, how does an anarchy sustain itself? If there is no state, then what is there to prevent a new state from being formed? Say for instance that I and one hundred of my friends decide that we want start a state. Say we all have guns and form an organized military. Say we have some planes and bombs, even. What is there to stop that state from expanding and taking over more territory and incorporating more and more people former anarchists into our state? How long would it take until the world was covered once again by tribes, and then city-states, and then nations and even empires? after all, states are a human contrivance in the first place. why wouldn't it just happen again?",,Anonymous,1478987354881.png,P5Bw3NQHUJTJ1JboLsp9Sw==,US,,1479741355 99601020,99612246,2016-11-21 15:25:10,">>99611131 >make serious post >ignored",,Anonymous,1422827769816.gif,omRLHZW1TAjQW3J189FZFA==,US,,1479741910 108992479,108992479,2017-01-25 09:50:53,Discussion and memes,Ancap General /ag/,Anonymous,ancap flag.png,ah3z7imGOr/vHJHKUajVFw==,FI,,1485337853 109267432,109267432,2017-01-26 18:33:33,>tfw a Nigerian bakery forum is the only form of control in your life besides the NAP,ANCAP general,Anonymous,Ancap.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,CA,,1485455613 109267432,109267630,2017-01-26 18:34:43,,,Anonymous,ANCAP 1.png,xEtnffh75+2pbC9FwxzYYw==,CA,,1485455683 109267432,109267739,2017-01-26 18:35:11,,,Anonymous,ANCAP 2 fix.png,LEgnjIJOHIS8Bl0ulPixUQ==,CA,,1485455711 109267432,109267810,2017-01-26 18:35:35,,,Anonymous,ANCAP 3.png,2/2KlbLyooQGP6GE7zUfLA==,CA,,1485455735 109267432,109267959,2017-01-26 18:36:30,,,Anonymous,ANCAP 5.png,OjSFiMhm+6tJY5q9FG1mzQ==,CA,,1485455790 109267432,109268027,2017-01-26 18:36:53,,,Anonymous,ANCAP 6.png,SWZcyMOUVpT624Fr9ylzsw==,CA,,1485455813 109267432,109268130,2017-01-26 18:37:27,,,Anonymous,ANCAP 7.png,LoQiIjk1IwFRhzLwoaeWwg==,CA,,1485455847 109267432,109268193,2017-01-26 18:37:46,,,Anonymous,ANCAP 8.png,W9gq8ePntSZyXyuVjDTatA==,CA,,1485455866 114536901,114536901,2017-02-27 14:43:35,,ANCAP GENERAL,Anonymous,hippity-hoppity-get-off-my-property-12365862.png,gNJdAZnpgxCm0SiLvo0m/w==,GB,,1488206615 114536901,114538181,2017-02-27 14:53:48,Libertarianism for stupid people. Piss off.,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1488207228 114536901,114539176,2017-02-27 15:02:03,">>114536901 There's already a hoppe thread going on, pack you shit up and move it over there",,Anonymous,,,US,,1488207723 134827431,134827431,2017-07-24 21:38:46,"Since this is ancap general I won't provide links for you, you can find the relevant ones yourselves. Today's topic is: what do we do about the decline in world's IQ?",Statist cucks out out out - /ag/ Ancap General,Anonymous,iq.jpg,yfwncHNjdkQJXz/Soo65+Q==,,,1500932326 148823161,148823161,2017-11-10 08:37:00,"GET THE FUCK IN HERE!! We're gonna start an Ancap General thread so we're gonna need to set up a pastebin for it and start gathering an audience. Dump all your spiciest Ancap memes and tell all your friends that /pol/ will no longer be a 1-party NatSoc state!",Ancap General /acg/ Rallying Edition!,Anonymous,where we're going we don't need roads.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510303020 148823161,148823470,2017-11-10 08:40:07,,,Anonymous,higgs.jpg,jurnZpnRfBDfwzyJKxozIA==,,,1510303207 148823161,148823717,2017-11-10 08:42:36,">>148823161 ah, the memeist of meme ideologies",,Anonymous,1491117953793.jpg,lNRgDj+j2jZLG4HQCr2YFw==,AU,,1510303356 148823161,148823973,2017-11-10 08:45:13,">>148823161 The free market of memes has already determines that ancapism is the worst ideology. How can this be a profitable venture for us all? And, more specifically, me?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510303513 148828358,148828358,2017-11-10 09:33:49,"Post memes to trigger NatSocs. Discord: ysHXtn9 Discuss: if Whites are the superior race, a perfectly free market that doesn't offer unjust protection to minorities and NEETs will surely prove it.",Ancap General /acg/ Discord Edition!!,Anonymous,where we're going we don't need roads.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510306429 148828358,148828463,2017-11-10 09:35:02,,,Anonymous,1510321207887.jpg,jurnZpnRfBDfwzyJKxozIA==,,,1510306502 148828358,148829081,2017-11-10 09:41:51,,,Anonymous,3fdfde3.jpg,C5HA21LiPALPnkqGyf5TOg==,,,1510306911 148828358,148829251,2017-11-10 09:43:39,The Poles aren't on your side faggots.,,Anonymous,dfa1d93.jpg,looqp/MD9yPtfb8pmBq0lQ==,,,1510307019 148853103,148853103,2017-11-10 13:19:58,"Ancap General /acg/ Discord Edition 2!! Discord: ysHXtn9 Post Ancap memes and discuss:",Ancap General /acg/ Discord Edition 2!!,Anonymous,where we're going we don't need roads.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,US,,1510319998 148853103,148853570,2017-11-10 13:23:42,">>148853103 what is discord",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320222 148853103,148854441,2017-11-10 13:30:24,">>148853570 discordapp(dot)com",,Anonymous,1510321207887.jpg,jurnZpnRfBDfwzyJKxozIA==,,,1510320624 148853103,148855096,2017-11-10 13:35:20,bump,,Anonymous,,,US,,1510320920 148887363,148887363,2017-11-10 18:04:07,"Post AnCap memes to trigger NatSocs and remind them that this was an AnCap board before all the NEETs showed up because they wanted someone to blame for their unemployment! Discord: ysHXtn9 Discuss.",AnCap General /acg/ Take Back Our Board Edition!!,Anonymous,where we're going we don't need roads.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510337047 148887363,148887631,2017-11-10 18:05:46,/lrg/ is cooler.,,Anonymous,LibRightGen.png,DAo6xn5yvke1kVAw7+HlUQ==,,,1510337146 148887363,148887768,2017-11-10 18:06:35,">>148887631 lmao tru",,Anonymous,,,,,1510337195 148887363,148887918,2017-11-10 18:07:34,"Oh boy, I love bootleg /lrg/",,Anonymous,Concern Snekcreasing.png,OOUVQXrl/16GH1tTtDzRSQ==,,,1510337254 148887363,148888135,2017-11-10 18:08:51,">>148887918 off brands are cheaper. the free market at work folks",,Anonymous,,,,,1510337331 148887363,148888402,2017-11-10 18:10:36,">>148887363 I don't know much about ancaps but damn the memes are spicy.",,Anonymous,recreational N U C C.png,bIuc41I9JvnyJdmKEwP/kg==,,,1510337436 148887363,148888435,2017-11-10 18:10:53,/lrg/ faggot. Do you really think you're the first person on 4chan to try to make a community of everyone who's scared of roads?,,Anonymous,60f45f7.jpg,fhU3Kx1bGjEF6FDpy/FtQw==,US,,1510337453 148887363,148888569,2017-11-10 18:11:38,,,Anonymous,AnCap_gf.png,qmGXupw2UbfFMDRVc5RNow==,US,,1510337498 148887363,148888656,2017-11-10 18:12:10,">This sperg again Fascism will win",,Anonymous,131994810853.jpg,PX3bNyZZzmagrqLd43bVuQ==,US,,1510337530 148887363,148888755,2017-11-10 18:12:40,">>148888435 https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Private_road faggot >>148888656 it literally already lost kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1510337560 148887363,148889221,2017-11-10 18:14:33,">>148888656 It's never won before. Much like Communism, it has a pretty spectacular record of failure.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510337673 148887363,148889259,2017-11-10 18:14:48,"hello bootleg lrg, how are you today?",,TPM,1496929469099.jpg,Su/fWV7K4QF3N8Y/tkmBSg==,,,1510337688 148887363,148889479,2017-11-10 18:16:18,>>148887363,,Anonymous,Ancap utopia.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,US,,1510337778 148887363,148889486,2017-11-10 18:16:20,>>148887363,,Batowl,image.jpg,+z/gbQ7HnMZ3joWsbCXixg==,CA,,1510337780 148887363,148889527,2017-11-10 18:16:36,">>148888755 >>Fascism already lost Oh that's funny, so what is it exactly you and your antifa fuckbuddies are always protesting over? Neck yourself nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510337796 148887363,148889557,2017-11-10 18:16:50,">>148889259 active at least >>148889479 been looking for that thanks",,Anonymous,,,,,1510337810 148887363,148889685,2017-11-10 18:17:45,">>148889479 >>148889557 >Non-aggressive ROFLMAO these cucks actually think they're winning by being cucks",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510337865 148887363,148890105,2017-11-10 18:20:45,">>148889557 you must of missed the last lrg, it was like few minutes ago",,TPM,,,,,1510338045 148887363,148890130,2017-11-10 18:20:55,">>148887363 Ancap is retarded and only edgy memelords support it. Minarchism is the way to go.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510338055 148887363,148890239,2017-11-10 18:21:44,>>148887363,,Anonymous,1509318357120.jpg,U1wLqBu8u3mUDmev7LW0JQ==,US,,1510338104 148887363,148890242,2017-11-10 18:21:45,">>148888755 Ah yes, I love paying 25¢ per mile to have my steel contraption travel over the top of asphalt that somebody else claims is theirs just because they put it there. Might have to violate the NAP on that one.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510338105 148887363,148890370,2017-11-10 18:22:45,">>148890239 As opposed to realistic strawmen, amiright? Trash meme, get it out.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510338165 148887363,148890454,2017-11-10 18:23:28,">>148887363 > AnCap > Not right-leaning post political cryptofascist You utter fool.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510338208 148887363,148890548,2017-11-10 18:24:08,">>148890130 >Ancap is retarded and only edgy memelords support it. Maybe you should look at the ideology for once, rather than using these strawmen memeballs for gathering an understanding of what this ideology even is. >>148889685 The NAP, referrers to not going out and attacking people to achieve what you want, so long as they do not attack you. It is basically a Hippocratic Oath to all interactions in life. If not using violence to achieve what you want is cuckoldry, then you must be some sort of sick psychopath.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510338248 148887363,148890700,2017-11-10 18:25:15,">>148890548 Or maybe I'm just not a little bitch in denial about how the real world works. Keep larping nigger lmfao",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510338315 148887363,148890941,2017-11-10 18:27:14,Daily reminder,,Anonymous,1112.jpg,S5LVsjB6bRb9/Ib9cu1yHQ==,DE,,1510338434 148887363,148891006,2017-11-10 18:27:42,">>148890548 I have looked at the ideology and I don't like it. It will almost certainly devolve into city-states or warlord feudalism, and the ""private defense agencies"" will either create a pseudo-state (that might be worse than the state replaced by ancap) or simply gang war 24/7. Humans are selfish and no major authority will be there to enforce the NAP, unless you're rich and powerful. An ancap society will be hell. A small minarchist government is necessary.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510338462 148887363,148891025,2017-11-10 18:27:52,">>148890941 Hi lefty pol",,TPM,,,,,1510338472 148887363,148891048,2017-11-10 18:28:05,I'm noticing a disturbing lack of CLERICAL FASCISM supporters in this thread. Do you want to get to heaven or not you fools? You're here for like 50 more years maximum most of you and you're worried about anything besides converting people and saving people? What's wrong with you makes?,,Anonymous,Muscle-Pooh-winnie-pooh.jpg,q5zSmVowTNiryGr2DJWt4g==,US,,1510338485 148887363,148891177,2017-11-10 18:29:07,">>148887363 ancaps existing without white people top kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1510338547 148887363,148891190,2017-11-10 18:29:13,">>148890239 It's more effective if you also post example strawmen with the meme. Like, nobody ever profits enough from a road to fund the construction of one, so obviously ancapistan would have to go completely without roads.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510338553 148887363,148891345,2017-11-10 18:30:22,">>148890700 There is no larping here. If you are just going to deliberately ignore any kind of information related to Ancap/Right-Libertarianism/Objectivism and just use strawmen made by your stormfront butt buddies, then why are you even here. >>148889527 Since when where Ancaps antifa? They hate us even more than the people they are calling nazis. And besides antifa hates capitalism, private property, and individualism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510338622 148887363,148891356,2017-11-10 18:30:26,">>148891190 never heard of toll roads?",,TPM,,,,,1510338626 148887363,148891529,2017-11-10 18:31:46,">>148890941 Oh well if it is not the ""everything bad about every ideology other than my own hodgepodge is a spook"".",,Anonymous,Everything I don't like is a spook.png,hJh0giU0elj005DEwug0sw==,,,1510338706 148887363,148891747,2017-11-10 18:33:24,"I'm here to deliver the right tune for /acg/ https://youtu.be/LP41IK91_qA https://youtu.be/yzrqtCDp-k8",,Anonymous,,,,,1510338804 148887363,148892150,2017-11-10 18:36:41,,,Anonymous,20171107172402_glitch.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,US,,1510339001 148887363,148892217,2017-11-10 18:37:10,,,Anonymous,PicsArt_11-10-12.47.40.jpg,IwmHFqIak1ElNXtQyVVXLw==,US,,1510339030 148887363,148892370,2017-11-10 18:38:13,">>148887363 Humans don't make decisions in a vacuum, we're causally influenced by many things, and unless you really don't care for the well being of race, culture and civilisation, don't be sad when all economic power stratifies to a corporate elite with almost totalitarian power over the masses. Meritocracy is a meme and the common person is very retarded, ultimately, you're going to be exploited by your boss and you'll have no power over the situation.",,Anonymous,1510236564299.jpg,eVnaCmh+8061MZKhVWxWQA==,,,1510339093 148887363,148892391,2017-11-10 18:38:23,yeah buddies,,Anonymous,hoppe_sensei.jpg,c0ZWBj6TUQPZkGYfBk2FVA==,,,1510339103 148887363,148892534,2017-11-10 18:39:30,,,Anonymous,anarchocalm.jpg,AbTzYlc0IXp2YwwPXR11Rg==,,,1510339170 148887363,148892720,2017-11-10 18:40:50,">>148891356 You gotta pay the road toll to get into that road's hole",,Anonymous,,,,,1510339250 148887363,148892862,2017-11-10 18:42:03,,,Anonymous,realiqchart.jpg,J/uOowPwYBLTiKnkednz/g==,,,1510339323 148887363,148892926,2017-11-10 18:42:32,">>148892370 If your skillset is so useless to anyone that you can be exploited so easily, you deserve what you get.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510339352 148887363,148892962,2017-11-10 18:42:54,,,Anonymous,nazivslibpol.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1510339374 148887363,148893054,2017-11-10 18:43:38,">>148892370 Why do you need the state to enforce conservatism? If people naturally self segregate them selves based upon race and culture, and appropriate the best qualities from other cultures. Then why is this a bad thing? Eastern and Western Civilizations have proven themselves to be the most successful and compatible with free market ideals, an outsider looking in, even a dumb one will be able to see that something is working related to said society. >Meritocracy is a meme Its not just about working hard, its about being able to find and utilize an opportunity. If you can't find any opportunities or are too afraid to take the risk, then you likely wont do very well in the long run. Also See >>148892926",,Anonymous,,,,,1510339418 148887363,148893157,2017-11-10 18:44:33,,,Anonymous,youbutstromger.jpg,XGXa8XNKgcJuaNsb1Pb8Cw==,,,1510339473 148887363,148893250,2017-11-10 18:45:21,,,Anonymous,andthesheep.jpg,JL8H3+bgPYoPzIq+AA9kKg==,,,1510339521 148887363,148893309,2017-11-10 18:45:52,,,Anonymous,altlile.jpg,tUL+k3kaiIpM0pfx6qACDg==,,,1510339552 148887363,148893388,2017-11-10 18:46:42,,,Anonymous,pepeisamused.jpg,GeadtG5BEzYULtsLia3lnw==,,,1510339602 148887363,148893480,2017-11-10 18:47:22,,,Anonymous,cantwellnazi.png,twz5UgF1XT5db5dac6gJcw==,,,1510339642 148887363,148893490,2017-11-10 18:47:28,>>148890239,,Anonymous,ankek.png,YyoUKh6uZyj/02yi/PB92g==,US,,1510339648 148887363,148893535,2017-11-10 18:47:52,">>148887363 >that this was an AnCap board before Anyone that was actually here 5+ years ago knows that was never the case. >Post AnCap memes to trigger NatSocs Post your ideology then.",,Anonymous,1509891547852.jpg,pctrZqk6RZgiiDgTH+PhWA==,,,1510339672 148887363,148893567,2017-11-10 18:48:02,,,Anonymous,6monthsafterlibertarian.jpg,Mv0gTMgPTCzg3eQhw8ZVwg==,,,1510339682 148887363,148893652,2017-11-10 18:48:48,,,Anonymous,donttreadsnakemetalfgera.jpg,T2E5O0ipXBPyHo4ATRoPiw==,,,1510339728 148887363,148893687,2017-11-10 18:49:05,,,Anonymous,196312_136349173183841_2018748458_n.jpg,Pj/OOQVtSLBtOflbQKucnw==,,,1510339745 148887363,148893816,2017-11-10 18:50:12,">>148890941 Rand would argue that it's in your self-interest to respect property rights as mutual respect for property rights among individuals is ultimately beneficial for any given individual. TLDR; The red buttons are not mutually exclusive, whoever made this is retarded.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510339812 148887363,148893887,2017-11-10 18:50:45,This is now a Hitler appreciation thread,,Anonymous,Hitler.png,BfIjrkZ6Cg6nTd6VfS8g6g==,CA,,1510339845 148887363,148894034,2017-11-10 18:52:01,">>148893887 Statists are not welcome here. And that jew couldn't draw people.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510339921 148887363,148894106,2017-11-10 18:52:37,https://twitter.com/FreemarketAnarc,,Anonymous,govrnfellsbad.jpg,esObuX++X2Lyr/Q1weQGMw==,,,1510339957 148887363,148894174,2017-11-10 18:53:06,">>148893480 This meme is retarded. Cantwell is right, free speech is not ancap you mong.",,Anonymous,Ultimate Conclusion.png,gmmaLMQcpJvJiusxZNqMuQ==,,,1510339986 148887363,148894201,2017-11-10 18:53:21,">>148893887 hitler was a a painter, architect, and a solider, but not an economist, decent, but could not fucked up like he did",,TPM,,,,,1510340001 148887363,148894262,2017-11-10 18:53:47,">>148892962 The free helicopter rides were done by fascists, you don't get to have them Also, you need to ((( ))) yourself as well, because lolbertarianism came from Jews",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510340027 148887363,148894406,2017-11-10 18:55:05,Anarcucks should just kill themselves desu,,Anonymous,,,,,1510340105 148887363,148894464,2017-11-10 18:55:28,">>148894262 Thats where you're wrong kiddo. >Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism, Invented by jews, ect ect. STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,Milk.png,Bg6G5W0vPD41mjU0jxTINg==,,,1510340128 148887363,148894531,2017-11-10 18:56:01,">>148893480 to be fair, Hoppe himself explained in a perfect Libertarian order there is absolute no tolerance towards democrates, socialists and communists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510340161 148887363,148894701,2017-11-10 18:57:19,nigger stfu /pol/ was always a nat soc board even /new/ was our board never ancap never will newfaggotry and autism flow in you,,Anonymous,,,,,1510340239 148887363,148894749,2017-11-10 18:57:42,">>148894531 and that we libertarians don't give a shit about an abstract ""freedom of speech"" communists don't have a right to speak on somones private property, and given that they want to abolish property and not own any, they dont have a right to speak EVER.",,Anonymous,Kill_Commies_For_The_NAP.png,icw3LJsZ6nW0AQh8MSVysQ==,,,1510340262 148887363,148894878,2017-11-10 18:58:52,">>148892926 The vast vast majority of production in an economy is dependent on low skill work that is easily replaced, so you think a majority of people deserve to be exploited? You are basically arguing for the expansion and consolidation of the power of these extremely wealthy corporate elites that then can dictate literally the operations of an entire civilisation regardless of culture, race or ethics. At the end of the day, nothing will change, the power of society still remains in the hands of a few. The state transition to oligarchical corporatism. >>148893054 >Why do you need the state to enforce conservatism? without a state, power derives from economic standard and the means of which you can exploit others for your own personal gain. Once power stratifies and is consolidated, no values, ethics or culture is intrinsic, and these individuals rule, and the entire social fabric can be influenced. >If people naturally self segregate them selves based upon race and culture because they don't naturally do so just on racial or cultural grounds, they also do so on economic grounds. If surviving means all people migrate into the cities and sell their labour, they will do so, survival is key. >even a dumb one will be able to see that something is working related to said society. There is literally no example of a pure free market society anywhere in the west or east, they are either state capitalist or socially democratic. Our western societies literally only exist because the labour standard is so low and cheap in China, they are exploited for our luxury and profit, robbing their own individual and national identity to mass produce products. This is at the expense of our own low skilled peoples, who are forced to live off welfare as labour continues to be outsourced.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510340332 148887363,148894915,2017-11-10 18:59:09,">>148887363 >acquire nuke >force people to pay a Not Nuke You tax",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510340349 148887363,148894936,2017-11-10 18:59:20,WE WUZ NAT SOCS SINCE THIS BOARDS CREATION SINCE /new/ YOU ANCAPS CANNOT STOP US NEWFAGS,,Anonymous,,,,,1510340360 148887363,148894939,2017-11-10 18:59:23,">>148894464 >We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Your ideology is so toothless it has never been seriously attempted by any number of people. And don't ""muh colonial America"" me, they limited citizenship to whites and had protective tariffs",,Anonymous,lol.png,ceF2ZUYaEKHwgpQFEZSa8A==,CA,,1510340363 148887363,148894940,2017-11-10 18:59:23,">>148893887 He should have remained a painter. I would ironically buy his paintings. If he stayed out of politics and focused on his painting career, I think he would have been world famous for his artwork, but he decided to become a paleo-socialist and now he is most well known for creating a crappy authoritarian welfare state.",,Anonymous,Yukkuri Tucasa.gif,SpxpG7AeYnmkeW5CItIL4w==,,,1510340363 148887363,148895016,2017-11-10 19:00:00,">>148894262 >The Jews Oh no, a few people who come from an ethnic group who have an extremely high average IQ promoted a political philosophy, it must be wrong! t. statist",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510340400 148887363,148895346,2017-11-10 19:03:01,">>148895016 Literally everything that flows out of Jews is poison to white people, but I'm sure lolbertarianism is the exception And I have high enough IQ to assess ideas for myself, thanks. I don't suck Jew intellectual cock because of IQ studies on urban samplings of nonrandom djoos P.S. If Jews are so smart, name 10 major inventions from Jews that changed the world. No cheating, you have to do it from memory. Good luck.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510340581 148887363,148895456,2017-11-10 19:04:00,">>148894940 I remember him as the man who stopped Jewish Russian communism from taking over Europe. Reminder: We let them have Poland.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510340640 148887363,148895588,2017-11-10 19:05:10,">>148895346 Literally not an argument. Are you some sort of NatSoc larper?",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510340710 148887363,148895621,2017-11-10 19:05:29,">>148894878 >Once power stratifies and is consolidated, no values, ethics or culture is intrinsic, and these individuals rule, and the entire social fabric can be influenced. So these values are all magically lost once power is gone? > If surviving means all people migrate into the cities and sell their labour, they will do so, survival is key. And yet you still see communities in the inner city that are self segregated, have distinct cultures. >There is literally no example of a pure free market society anywhere in the west or east, While this is true, there are states that have more free markets and less free markets. Generally the more free market societies are more compatible with western and eastern societies. >Our western societies literally only exist because the labour standard is so low and cheap in China How did the west survive before China opened its markets in the late 70s? >This is at the expense of our own low skilled peoples, who are forced to live off welfare as labour continues to be outsourced. Do you really think that these people are worth more than the 50 cents an hour they are being paid? They have no marketable skills beyond that. In fact shortly after china implemented a minimum wage in some of its regions, people actually have began trying to leave China for Vietnam where they can get paid 25/50 cents an hour because nobody else is willing to hire them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510340729 148887363,148895806,2017-11-10 19:07:08,">>148895588 I'm not larping, honey. I pushed out a baby on oxytocin with no pain relief because I want to push out more and I wantto avoid a C section. Have a nice day!",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510340828 148887363,148895842,2017-11-10 19:07:27,">>148895456 Well clearly his attempte to stop the red menace in europe has failed, epsecially since he sold out half of eastern Europe and implemented socialist and socialist-like policies him self. Frankly it was the influence of NATO and the former allied powers in Europe that slowed the spread of socialism during the cold war, not Germany.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510340847 148887363,148895939,2017-11-10 19:08:24,">>148895588 If he is trying to pass using ""JOOOS"" as a valid argument, then he is a NatSoc larper.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510340904 148887363,148896025,2017-11-10 19:09:02,Why would you deny NatSoc? Don't you like clean roads?,,Anonymous,1507432239621.jpg,QK6fCvz/DebTb/PHZ9ZZEg==,CA,,1510340942 148887363,148896155,2017-11-10 19:10:05,">>148895842 >Well clearly his attempte to stop the red menace in europe has failed Partially true, but it took the US, UK, Canada, Russia ganging up on him to do so. Compare that to your absolute 0 track record of lolbertarianism >cold war Why the fuck are you mentioning the cold war? Totally irrelevant, NAZI germany was not in existence",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510341005 148887363,148896301,2017-11-10 19:11:18,">>148895939 I'm not the one who posted a meme with ((( ))) you fucking retard. I'm just throwing it back in your faces. That's how fucking irrelevant lolbertarianism is, you can't even meme without thieving",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510341078 148887363,148896322,2017-11-10 19:11:27,">>148896025 I dont like roads period. now get out of here road-socialist! I dream of a society free from the asphault jew.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510341087 148887363,148896564,2017-11-10 19:13:39,">>148887363 I'll just leave this here",,Anonymous,(((libertarianism))).jpg,EtGWLTjpP76BxckulCP5ow==,,,1510341219 148887363,148896581,2017-11-10 19:13:45,">>148893816 >Rand would argue that it's in your self-interest to respect property rights as mutual respect for property rights among individuals is ultimately beneficial for any given individual. She also said the natives didn't have any property rights because nothing (like a government) could grant them property rights. Her so-called philosophy is a confused mess. There's no evidence or reason to think the NAP is a stable mutually beneficial outcome. That's not how history has unfolded. History is all about ""might is right"" and conquering territory (ie property) with bigger tribes/armies. Imo, libertarianism is the sort of ideology that can only fester in a culture that's sufficiently free from external threats. By it's nature it's a very divisive ideology and it tends (though I admit there are exceptions) to promote degeneracy and selfishness.",,Anonymous,Private-Property.png,4vyuURaDzzpsxpLibO/tYQ==,,,1510341225 148887363,148896735,2017-11-10 19:15:00,">>148896564 >no hoppe isn't cherry picking fun?",,TPM,Nonfamiliesbtfo.jpg,4f2AuHbz5PFmqWUWWYZ4ig==,,,1510341300 148887363,148896826,2017-11-10 19:15:52,">>148896155 >Why the fuck are you mentioning the cold war? Totally irrelevant, NAZI germany was not in existence It is relevant because the cold war was the period after WW2. Germany was divided and you had a coalition of powers that favored anything that is not Fascism or Socialism. And it was during the cold war that we a massive economic boom in the united states,east asia, and western europe. This combined with the rigorous laws that prevented any kind of communist resurgence (until very recently) is what kept half of Europe free of communism. Hitler did very little to stop the spread of socialism, especially when he sells out a large chunk of Europe to Stalin, and frankly he didn't have that portion under his country anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510341352 148887363,148897112,2017-11-10 19:18:13,">>148896564 Only Rothbard and Von Mises are any good, Watler block isn't even an influential guy, and milton friedman and any rand aren't even libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510341493 148887363,148897220,2017-11-10 19:18:57,">>148896735 > hoppe > not the main founders of lolspegism Lolbiterianism is a kike ideology created for stupid goyim",,Anonymous,libercucks.jpg,QLhxG/qS9S8QWyc5yYtz2A==,,,1510341537 148887363,148897392,2017-11-10 19:20:03,,,Anonymous,insurancecompaniestotherescue.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,,,1510341603 148887363,148897456,2017-11-10 19:20:42,">>148897220 >>148896564 see >>148894464 you niggers, libertarianism was created by goyim. libertarianism is white man values.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510341642 148887363,148897501,2017-11-10 19:21:06,">>148897220 if you want the main founders of libertarianism you'll have to go back farther than mises or friedman",,TPM,1505682371636.png,7safy9e8qLOLsTmMfwWn2w==,,,1510341666 148887363,148897666,2017-11-10 19:22:23,">>148897456 Lolbiterianism was fucking created by filthy kikes. the amount of cognitive dissonance is outstanding Fuck you civicuck lolspergs and your meme ideology .",,Anonymous,,,,,1510341743 148887363,148897741,2017-11-10 19:23:00,">>148896564 no hoppe? chopper for you, jew",,Anonymous,,,,,1510341780 148887363,148897980,2017-11-10 19:25:01,">>148896826 ??????? Are you 80 IQ? None of this is relevant to NAZIism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510341901 148887363,148897997,2017-11-10 19:25:06,">>148895621 >So these values are all magically lost once power is gone? Yes, look at China. A small corporate elite, with not a care for the well being of the masses or their civilisation, do not care. An aspect of the exploitation process is the de-individualisation of the common worker, so they are utterly subservient to working to survive. Historically speaking, it happens 100% of the time. >And yet you still see communities in the inner city that are self segregated, have distinct cultures. I guess it's fine to import millions of muslims then to my civilisation, because multiculturalism now works. But historically speaking, the best example I personally can find is the movement of the Irish into the UK during the potato famine. These people didn't stay Irish for long did they? >Generally the more free market societies are more compatible with western and eastern societies. The reason why a nation may be more ""compatible"" with a free market economic system is because these socially democratic, advanced westernised nations have strong workers rights, union representation and a state to ensure there is no vicious behaviour. In your system, you are denying the people this greater body of power to defend them, and allowing power to consolidate in the hands of a corporate elite.tem. >How did the west survive before China opened its markets in the late 70s? The west had it's own industries and production, we produced our own goods. We have experienced extreme exploitation and the horrors of a deregulated market during the industrial revolution, not before the state intervened where necessary and progress was made because of union representation. >Do you really think that these people are worth more than the 50 cents an hour they are being paid? That is the sad fact of reality, that vast majority of production is cheap and labour is cheap. Most people will suffer. The whole cycle is brutal, and does not take into account anything beyond economic materialism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510341906 148887363,148898054,2017-11-10 19:25:34,">>148897741 FASCISTS DID THE CHOPPERS YOU FAGGOT",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510341934 148887363,148898115,2017-11-10 19:26:02,">>148897501 And it you want to see how far NatSoc goes back then look at Ancient Sparta. NatSoc is a natural European ideology because it has been with us since the beginning. You stupid lolspergs were created by fucking kikes. That right there should make anyone DROP lolspergism. You see, the only type of people who are lolspergs are either t_d plebbit fags who are on their final step through the red-pill journey. The very last step is NatSoc. How many lolspergs have eventually embraced NatSoc? almost every single one of them. And the other lolspergs are fucking nonwhite themselves or halfbreed mongrels.",,Anonymous,AryanPower.jpg,S1Us6RRhdwckgfzKGJ9+1A==,,,1510341962 148887363,148898294,2017-11-10 19:27:26,">>148897392 >thinks arguments are won with the word cuck >thinks militaries are useful at fighting anything but other militaries >thinks fighting against 5 or more private militaries at the same time would be a good idea >thinks those companies would assassinate the opposing head of state and on the ground command structure before even engaging",,TPM,5stagesblack.png,GWMVzgaV1vE2T5rjSPReug==,,,1510342046 148887363,148898297,2017-11-10 19:27:29,">>148897741 the ovens are pre-ready kike",,Anonymous,,,,,1510342049 148887363,148898376,2017-11-10 19:28:12,">>148897392 In case you haven't seen the past several thousand years of human history, militaries aren't all that great at protecting borders either.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510342092 148887363,148898529,2017-11-10 19:29:19,">>148897501 >Pericles >Forced the rest of the Delian League members to pay up or get rekt by Athens >Pushed for huge public works like the Parthenon and the Walls connecting Athens to Piraeus >Forced rowers and ship builders to unionize >Libertarian Fucking brainlets",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510342159 148887363,148898536,2017-11-10 19:29:24,">>148898115 >WE WAZ SPARTANS AND SHEIT gives no proof >The very last step is NatSoc. How many lolspergs have eventually embraced NatSoc? almost every single one of them. And the other lolspergs are fucking nonwhite themselves or halfbreed mongrels. i was a neetsoc too, then i read some fucking books refer to>>148898294",,TPM,,,,,1510342164 148887363,148898689,2017-11-10 19:30:36,Anything as long as dirty reds die too.,,Anonymous,1506187809683.jpg,Ofke3KmtXsBLdJO4E3lzkg==,US,,1510342236 148887363,148898727,2017-11-10 19:31:00,">>148898529 he was the start retard, and if you've ever read about stoicism(aurelius) you know a thing or two about owning yourself",,TPM,,,,,1510342260 148887363,148898804,2017-11-10 19:31:44,">>148898115 Alot of lolspergs are lazy, selfish leftists who want to have buttsex and weed but don't want to pay taxes. They will be getting free helicopter rides, they're totally worthless",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510342304 148887363,148898843,2017-11-10 19:32:02,">>148897666 Im not a civic nationalist you fucking faggot, how fucking dare you call me a civicuck, i want a white ethno community based on property rights and traditionalism. get the fuck out of here you fucking larper.",,Anonymous,Crush.png,HQl3OeUH7jJVktLD9nJrwA==,,,1510342322 148887363,148899088,2017-11-10 19:34:02,">>148897501 Pericles' actions caused the downfall of Athens. This goes back to what I said before. Libertarianism is an ideology that infects a society at its most prosperous stages and when it's relatively free from external threats. If you notice libertarianism only infected the west after WW2 ended. There were few libertarians during the great depression and the second world war. It's an act of hubris that impels people to think that they can tear down the institutions that have hitherto produced the prosperity and relative freedom which they enjoy. That's the crux of the libertarian ideology. Anything that impedes their personal, ""rational"" self-interest should be torn down even if its necessary to the functioning of society. >>148898294 >Thinks hiring private mercenaries to police your borders is a good idea because his libertarian ideology said so https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sack_of_Rome_(410)",,Anonymous,cycle_of_history.jpg,OfTJO6zWOOoAzgG69zOUYQ==,,,1510342442 148887363,148899273,2017-11-10 19:35:24,">>148898376 >militaries aren't all that great at protecting borders either. I have never seen a military lose to an insurance company. They may have lost to other militaries.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510342524 148887363,148899371,2017-11-10 19:36:13,">>148898536 >""The history of Fascist ideology is long and it involves many sources. Fascists took inspiration from as far back as the Spartans for their focus on racial purity and their emphasis on rule by an elite minority"" > I was a natsoc then read some kike books lol fuck outta here lolsperg with your shilling Lolbiterianism is a kike ideology that goes against our natural order and European way of life. It's just a meme ideology that some kikes invented to shitpost.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510342573 148887363,148899498,2017-11-10 19:37:10,">>148898804 this , it's time to turn up the ovens for these alt-lite cucks",,Anonymous,,,,,1510342630 148887363,148899596,2017-11-10 19:37:58,">>148899088 >If you notice libertarianism only infected the west after WW2 ended. There were few libertarians during the great depression and the second world war. what was the american revolution? >rome they fell because they funded germanics and other foreigners, no hoppen would do buisness with nonwhites for protection, they wouldn't even be allowed in",,TPM,,,,,1510342678 148887363,148899642,2017-11-10 19:38:23,">>148898843 YOU FUCKING FAGGOT LOLSPERGS LITERALLY SAY THAT YOU ARE CIVIKEKS. It's what seperates you from us NatSocs. > based on property rights and traditionalism NatSoc has all of that and much more you lolsperg.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510342703 148887363,148899669,2017-11-10 19:38:36,">>148899273 only because it hasn't happened yet",,TPM,,,,,1510342716 148887363,148899904,2017-11-10 19:40:40,">>148897980 My whole point is that Nazism had nothing to do with stopping socialism. >>148899273 We are yet to see insurance companies evolve into full blown PMCs with privatized armies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510342840 148887363,148900065,2017-11-10 19:42:00,">>148899371 so you fuck each others asses like spartans? and run around nude while playing sports? you want some books? try bastiat, try jefferson's idea of america 'jeffersonian democracy' try 'liberty or equality:the challenge of our time' by erik ritter",,TPM,,,,,1510342920 148887363,148900153,2017-11-10 19:42:41,">>148899596 >american revolution I already debunked this, faggot. Keep up >they fell because they funded germanics and other foreigners, no hoppen would do buisness with nonwhites for protection, they wouldn't even be allowed in What the fuck does this even mean? Are you retarded?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510342961 148887363,148900401,2017-11-10 19:44:39,">>148891006 What is Liechtenstein? Perfect example of a minarchist regime where each region has complete autonomy",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343079 148887363,148900474,2017-11-10 19:45:15,">>148899904 >My whole point is that Nazism had nothing to do with stopping socialism. That is demonstrably wrong. The half of Poland taken over by Russia had a commie gov imposed on it. You don't get to blame NAZI Germany for anything that happened after unless you're gonna argue NAZIism is flawed because it couldn't stop the us, uk, russia at the same time",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510343115 148887363,148900619,2017-11-10 19:46:17,">>148899904 >We are yet to see insurance companies evolve into full blown PMCs with privatized armies. One of many things which will never be seen under lolbertarianism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510343177 148887363,148900626,2017-11-10 19:46:19,">>148899596 >what was the american revolution? Not a libertarian movement as is understood today. There was still a constitution, governments, presidents in the early 1800s who wielded considerable power, checks-and-balances. Above all else the founding fathers of the United States believed there was a role government needed to play. The ancap movement of the present is totally different from that American revolution. If all the ancap movement wants to do is to restore the same constitutional principles of the United States, I'd support them. That's not their goal. ancaps want to create a completely stateless society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343179 148887363,148900710,2017-11-10 19:46:52,">>148900401 except of course its currency union with switzerland....",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343212 148887363,148901102,2017-11-10 19:50:04,">>148900626 Citizenship limited to whites - no freedom of movement Protective tariffs - no free market Numerous religious ordinances - no legal weed, buttsex, abortion Not lolbertarian",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510343404 148887363,148901121,2017-11-10 19:50:13,">>148900153 >i debunked this i'm not reading though the thread, post a link to your post or shut it. cause they were really fucking libertarian, you clearly don't know shit about the ideologies of the founding fathers >What the fuck does this even mean? Are you retarded? i'm sorry you can't read, nobody that follows the works of hoppe would do what the romans did, if an ancap is not a follow of hoppe's philosophy chances are hes a leftist or confused, you should read some of his works",,TPM,Hans on immagrations.jpg,MqFRPJoHfQ9+2+AHwz6M5A==,,,1510343413 148887363,148901143,2017-11-10 19:50:25,">>148899642 I've never said I am a civicuck, others cannot speak for me. >NatSoc has all of that and much more I dont want ""much more"" you fucking faggot. fuck you and your socialist bullshit,",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343425 148887363,148901331,2017-11-10 19:51:55,">>148900065 did any of those things happen in Natsoc Germany ? Libertarianism allows a political ideology to not give a damn about their fellow white person. Greed, self promotion and other degenerate filth are ok under lolspergism. You can live under that degenerate society as you choose but it's not for the white race. You faggots only think as individuals and not as a collective race and that is why you are following kike ideologies that will destroy our people the same way as communism. Lolbiterianism is used to destroy the white Christian family unit and promote one's self degenerate and selfish lifestyle over your own kin. It's a stupid meme ideology that whites are getting over with. The real ideology that cares for the white race and was designed to protect and preserve our people was NatSoc. And NatSoc battled Jewish Bolshevism and Communism, not lolspergs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343515 148887363,148901575,2017-11-10 19:53:46,">>148901143 > fuck you and your ideology that will save the white race kek ok civicuck lolsperg leftist trash",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343626 148887363,148901613,2017-11-10 19:54:04,">>148887363 >I don't care if my race goes extinct as long as I can watch porn sage",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343644 148887363,148901706,2017-11-10 19:54:54,">>148900626 libertarianism as it is today is another front for communism and leftist. and the constitution was not the first document, it was the articles of confederation, which were weak and gave the governance little power. would've worked too if we weren't in massive debt from the revolution and a certain father, with scottish banking connections, didn't have a hand in leading a rebel band of revolutionary vets to shake down the gov",,TPM,More small states pls.png,yNSUaok/CXodd/SaTzFimQ==,,,1510343694 148887363,148901766,2017-11-10 19:55:26,">>148901575 White Capitalists will build the ethnostate, mark my fucking words you 1940's dress-up faggot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343726 148887363,148901836,2017-11-10 19:56:00,"If you want to see how divorced the ancap/lolbertarian movement is from the founding father's of the United States, here are some quotes illustrating how Hoppe prefers Monarchy to Democracy This underscores the confused and facile nature of the libertarian ideology. "" If one must have a state, defined as an agency that exercises a compulsory territorial monopoly of ultimate decision-making (jurisdiction) and of taxation, then it is economically and ethically advantageous to choose monarchy over democracy."" ""In fact, although aware of the economic and ethical deficiencies of democracy, both Mises and Rothbard had a soft spot for democracy and tended to view the transition from monarchy to democracy as progress. In contrast, I will explain the rapid growth of state power in the course of the 20th century lamented by Mises and Rothbard as the systematic outcome of democracy "" >Hoppe characterizes democracy as ""publicly owned government"", which he compares to monarchy—""privately owned government""—to conclude that the latter is preferable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy:_The_God_That_Failed >>148901102 That's right the Founding Fathers weren't libertarian.",,Anonymous,libertarianism6.png,DngNV1ZPfyjq3LS4KrzE3w==,,,1510343760 148887363,148902059,2017-11-10 19:57:34,">>148901121 Honey, I know exactly how good my reading comprehension is from standardized testing You don't care about basic facts, that much is obvious",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510343854 148887363,148902202,2017-11-10 19:58:38,">>148893887 good call my fellow leaf",,Anonymous,1483236082770.jpg,+MRBIv+6hFAXCWrnx6+ikg==,CA,,1510343918 148887363,148902259,2017-11-10 19:59:06,">>148900474 >You don't get to blame NAZI Germany for anything that happened after Aside from selling out eastern europe, I am not blaming them, I am saying they did nothing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510343946 148887363,148902308,2017-11-10 19:59:35,">>148901331 >did any of those things happen in Natsoc Germany ? ERNST ROHM Libertarianism allows a political ideology to not give a damn about their fellow white person. Greed, self promotion and other degenerate filth are ok under lolspergism. You can live under that degenerate society as you choose but it's not for the white race. You faggots only think as individuals and not as a collective race and that is why you are following kike ideologies that will destroy our people the same way as communism. Lolbiterianism is used to destroy the white Christian family unit and promote one's self degenerate and selfish lifestyle over your own kin. this may have been true after the jew authors got a hold of it but hoppes done a great job of cleaning out the obvious jewish influence, and so long as you know what that jewish influence is you can avoid it. but even before that, libertarianism isn't about killing whites, in fact even in the rothbard era whites were recognized as being the top dog of the world pic related",,TPM,Liber no dgen.png,hri4LVvsHDKu5n7MzVm4eg==,,,1510343975 148887363,148902332,2017-11-10 19:59:46,,,Anonymous,1483237108602.jpg,vN1TV246mZ7MIeYz9mFk2A==,CA,,1510343986 148887363,148902370,2017-11-10 20:00:04,,,Anonymous,1280px-Reichsparteitagnov1935_crop.jpg,WlM7/klcYnY+1M66G7Yt0Q==,CA,,1510344004 148887363,148902427,2017-11-10 20:00:40,,,Anonymous,1483236028877.jpg,2v+tfMwBYJXRY1SFwrkvdQ==,CA,,1510344040 148887363,148902501,2017-11-10 20:01:14,,,Anonymous,1508558767030.jpg,BMGJW4p/Qc+ZbYzRCJiL8A==,CA,,1510344074 148887363,148902580,2017-11-10 20:01:52,,,Anonymous,1508560038393.png,Gk/rTn73mmMiUwdy/KEiqw==,CA,,1510344112 148887363,148902588,2017-11-10 20:01:56,">>148902059 >he thinks good grades are indicative of intelligence >you don't care about facts i don't care to comb though this thread, and if you read ANY of the founding fathers ideologies youd eat your words",,TPM,private property open borders.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1510344116 148887363,148902817,2017-11-10 20:03:58,">>148901766 KEKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK how can kike slaves build an ethnostate? You need a collective to do that remember? Aren't you an individual? kek stupid lolspergs. only NATSOC can build a white ethno state because it has done so since our civilization began. Read more into NatSoc, lolspergs are ignorant of what it actually is. The only thing I care about is race not your stupid economic kike bullshit Pic related is all that matters. Now go back to plebbit you newfag cuck",,Anonymous,heil'd.jpg,fI9Pq1aFW6Kyzj0ZuNBaMA==,,,1510344238 148887363,148903016,2017-11-10 20:05:49,">>148902817 >He thinks a union of individuals is a collective neetsocs everyone",,TPM,,,,,1510344349 148887363,148903166,2017-11-10 20:07:06,">>148902308 > what is the KNIGHT OF LONG KNIVES FOR 6 MILLION SHEKELS !!!! lol fuck that faggot hoppe beta cuck, idgaf about him or his stupid revisionist intellectual theories about lolspergism. What has HE done for the white race? NOTHING. I didn't even know who the fuck he was until lolsperg neets started flooding /pol after the Trump Arc .",,Anonymous,,,,,1510344426 148887363,148903204,2017-11-10 20:07:22,">>148902817 You must be new. Anarcho-capitalism does not reject all forms of collectivism and capitalists are the rulers of industry, not the slaves. NatSoc is a meme that failed in a few years when it couldn't hold its own.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510344442 148887363,148903272,2017-11-10 20:08:06,,,Anonymous,1509580905346.jpg,pBOCHcAiI4liMyelHMRvZg==,US,,1510344486 148887363,148903304,2017-11-10 20:08:25,,,Anonymous,1509580050130.jpg,1WqMO+HawFnMtCANZssVmA==,US,,1510344505 148887363,148903345,2017-11-10 20:08:43,,,Anonymous,1498287155337.jpg,YXYJ29CzLQ9WBy87mkmBjA==,US,,1510344523 148887363,148903370,2017-11-10 20:09:01,">>148902259 They stopped Russia from taking over all of Europe, you fucking retard. I've seriously had enough of you. Your stupidity hurts",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510344541 148887363,148903383,2017-11-10 20:09:08,,,Anonymous,1492939247390.png,SryldM0Xb83xkBgmgJ6YdQ==,US,,1510344548 148887363,148903455,2017-11-10 20:09:42,,,Anonymous,1497601757149.png,x03h/sKaGiTN++n64xZQSA==,US,,1510344582 148887363,148903518,2017-11-10 20:10:17,">>148903166 >lol fuck that faggot hoppe beta cuck, idgaf about him or his stupid revisionist intellectual theories about lolspergism. fuck yourself too what have you done for your race? >I didn't even know who the fuck he was until lolsperg neets started flooding /pol after the Trump Arc . i'm sorry you ideologically wank yourself off so much you don't read around",,TPM,,,,,1510344617 148887363,148903562,2017-11-10 20:10:38,">>148887363 Ancap is against human nature, much like Communism. You're fucking deluded if you believe even more than 1% of the population can behave like the rational actor in ancap philosophy. Grow up man child.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510344638 148887363,148903622,2017-11-10 20:11:09,">>148902588 I'm not talking about ideologies, I'm talking about what was actually practiced. P.S. Writing a constitution is NOT lolbertarian. The constitution was actually a huge power grab compared to the wild west atmosphere which was in existence before PPS I said standardized exam, not grades. Low reading comprehension detected",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510344669 148887363,148903650,2017-11-10 20:11:21,Weak shit faggot 0/10 try harder,,Anonymous,james_mason_1.jpg,npZ42A4zrmKe5Smt41Xz+Q==,,,1510344681 148887363,148903749,2017-11-10 20:12:19,">>148903272 holy shit",,Anonymous,,,,,1510344739 148887363,148903800,2017-11-10 20:12:42,">>148890941 gang",,Anonymous,1489088502111.png,s4UU/VshR/3dY57ThrwiJg==,US,,1510344762 148887363,148903842,2017-11-10 20:13:12,">>148903622 it was a huge power grab, but because of the nature of the republic and demcracy if washington declared himself king this would be going good",,TPM,,,,,1510344792 148887363,148903859,2017-11-10 20:13:23,">>148903562 >Ancap is against human nature Never heard this one before. Mind if you expand on this point?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510344803 148887363,148903879,2017-11-10 20:13:29,">>148903016 > he thinks following a kike ideology where children can be sold is a perfect system LOLspergs ladies and gents. But you lolspergs don't care about the collective only about yourselves as individuals. if a union of individuals is not a collective then what is it ?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510344809 148887363,148904087,2017-11-10 20:15:15,>>148903749,,Anonymous,1494228346944.jpg,scDoSjnbcOQOousEZi9PzQ==,,,1510344915 148887363,148904134,2017-11-10 20:15:38,">>148902588 >that image >Only people who would have ""freedom of movement"" to enter >If every piece of land in a country were owned by some person, group, or corporation, this would mean that no person could enter unless invited to enter and allowed to rent or purchase property That's some free society you have there. In your libertarian society someone or some corporation owns the entire land, and their word is as good as law. If you want to even rent land from this person you need their permission. Sounds more like a backdoor to feudalism.",,Anonymous,feudal_diagram_large.jpg,gW7bttiY0IvlL+Vrkahs0g==,,,1510344938 148887363,148904177,2017-11-10 20:15:58,Remember to sage these subversive kike threads,,Anonymous,Ancap Nazism.png,AfdO5XvNeIgPzfhsv/wxYw==,US,,1510344958 148887363,148904229,2017-11-10 20:16:26,">>148903879 is selling children unusual historically? its not and under your system if hitler would've won he woulda instated a nobility and created serf, the problem you talk of would've happened immediately after hitler died and i don't like selling children, any christian society wouldn't allow it either, which is what is to be encouraged",,TPM,,,,,1510344986 148887363,148904536,2017-11-10 20:18:57,">>148903859 The state exists.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510345137 148887363,148904702,2017-11-10 20:20:21,">>148903204 Capitalism is the same jewish system as communism. Both are on different sides of the same coin. Both are used to destroy Western Nations you kike cuck. > NatSoc is a meme that failed Are you fucking retarded of pretending to be? The only reason it ""failed"" was because the fucking kikes found out how perfect it was and how great of a threat it was to their international new world order. They declared War on Germany and Hitler. If you don't have stupid shit to say don't say it because you sound fucking retarded. If NatSoc Germany were to be left alone on it's own then it would've been the most powerful nation on earth. All of Europe would've accepted NatSoc and together would have created a unified Aryan Reich.",,Anonymous,natsocchurchill.jpg,yTVaCtOt4Kq9sqRzHR4u5g==,,,1510345221 148887363,148904710,2017-11-10 20:20:25,">>148903879 >Selling kids is bad What do you think adoption is? Also, the collective is made up of individuals. We care about each of them as a whole rather than just caring about because they're a whole.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510345225 148887363,148904776,2017-11-10 20:21:03,">>148904536 The state is not natural. It's artificial.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510345263 148887363,148904849,2017-11-10 20:21:35,,,Anonymous,Ancap_bea382_6000880.jpg,4EC2yBKSAxPQFVmVvqyaDg==,,,1510345295 148887363,148905000,2017-11-10 20:22:50,,,Anonymous,1509665954970.jpg,JDXvOhRXSCFZ2/tOTeXJ9w==,,,1510345370 148887363,148905008,2017-11-10 20:22:52,">>148904776 >this eternal meme Here's the part where we ask you to define ""the state"" and ""artificial"", then die of old age.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510345372 148887363,148905023,2017-11-10 20:23:01,">>148903518 I am promoting an ideology that will save it, how about you? The only think you care about is putting more extra shekels in your pocket like a kike. I don't read things that are useless in the real world.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510345381 148887363,148905137,2017-11-10 20:23:54,">>148904134 >That's some free society you have there. In your libertarian society someone or some corporation owns the entire land, and their word is as good as law. If you want to even rent land from this person you need their permission. its not ment to free in the lolbert sense, it is to be free as we are, which is a white christian society most property owners of large land would try to attract people to live there, so like during the segregation days of america, you could keep a sign saying 'no blacks, no muslims, no jews, no thots' and you would be able to enforce it because you are free to do so. >backdoor to fuedilism feudalism is the most natural form of human living the natural elite of the people come into power, and only those that really make themselves great get power",,TPM,,,,,1510345434 148887363,148905152,2017-11-10 20:23:59,this,,Anonymous,statism_starts_at_home_sticker_set-r5cc100ed227049259d5544ce62811040_v9wxo_8byvr_512.jpg,zY3XKxDWKHBDBeNMAcOXDw==,US,,1510345439 148887363,148905362,2017-11-10 20:25:31,Well?,,Anonymous,Libertarian roads.png,AX11H33A3bysQ/1aJYXAPQ==,US,,1510345531 148887363,148905722,2017-11-10 20:28:21,">>148905362 the last one, no grid lock possible with that many lanes available, plus cost would be on the individual for each, so no funding from the 2 cities would be used for upkeep. as well in a private setting they would fight over drivers, keeping conditions nice, and prices for the tolls down",,TPM,1492693792126.png,R7cX3VPnWCNuUZcozm/Cgg==,,,1510345701 148887363,148905895,2017-11-10 20:29:48,">>148889221 yes but no one has ever been dumb enough to try libertarianism so what does that say? inb4 a bunch of horseshit faux historical examples like ancient ireland",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510345788 148887363,148906001,2017-11-10 20:30:35,">>148905137 A ""white christian society"" isn't as monetarily profitable for private interests. Hence the reason America importing millions of niggers, then millions of spics, and largely abandoned Christian ideals. If a person's ""free"" to enforce their sign that says no blacks, no jews, etc. they're also ""free"" to enforce the sign that welcomes blacks, jews, etc. That second part is always left out. AnCap must be pursued through collective interest, not private interest.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510345835 148887363,148906113,2017-11-10 20:31:26,">>148905008 The state is a institution that has monopoly on violence. It does not produce what it has not already taken (via taxation). It also has totally control over individuals property. Artificial is just something made through unnatural means (usually man made).",,Anonymous,,,,,1510345886 148887363,148906170,2017-11-10 20:31:58,">>148904229 Under Hitler we would've had more fucking freedom than anything we have today. There wouldn't be shitskins running around and degeneracy would not exist. Europeans are a hierarchal race. We have always needed a leader to lead us and we have formed around this system since our history began.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510345918 148887363,148906220,2017-11-10 20:32:18,">>148905023 >The only think you care about is putting more extra shekels in your pocket like a kike. strawman, and no i don't care about money >I am promoting an ideology that will save it, how about you? as am i, no libertarian thinker, including the jewish ones saw the whites as anything else but the entire basis for this system and the only that could accomplish this, in fact most say the jews cannot live in the order despite being jews too >I don't read things that are useless in the real world. so you don't read anything other than technical and how-to-do it books?",,TPM,,,,,1510345938 148887363,148906303,2017-11-10 20:32:56,">>148905722 The monopoly one is clearly way more efficient. Having 5 fucking roads between the same two points is inefficient as fuck. Not to mention, paving over the entire countryside with roads is not something most people would support. It ruins the view, and habitable ecosystems. This is why roads are a good example of a ""natural monopoly"". Pic related, imagine between each of these nodes, instead of having 1 road you have 5 or more",,Anonymous,Texas highways.gif,WoXvxXWfBAmN69VPkA0kUA==,US,,1510345976 148887363,148906438,2017-11-10 20:34:01,">>148905362 obviously the last one you fucking moron, more capacity for traffic, competition lowers the price for the users and the quality of the roads will outperform publicly owned ones. Only the poor people who are retarded like you would need to use the shittiest road if they even own a car",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510346041 148887363,148906511,2017-11-10 20:34:25,">>148887363 >Post AnCap memes to trigger NatSocs This is a pretty retarded divide and conquer. Go back to r/anarchocapitalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510346065 148887363,148906646,2017-11-10 20:35:28,">>148905137 >feudalism is the most natural form of human living The most natural way of living is in a mudhut chasing small fury animals with crude stone tipped spears. That's how the human race lived for the majority 150k years it has existed on this planet. > the natural elite of the people come into power, and only those that really make themselves great get power No, you're being delusional as hell. Your ancestors were probably peasants in a feudal society. If you fell out of the right womb you became a baron, or a king. If you were book smart you could join the clergy and lived an austere life in a monastery. If you weren't you toiled in the mud until you died. As for the kings, there were multiple weak and incompetent kings, just as there were weak and incompetent emperors during the Roman era- one of whom was an open transsexual. ""Elagabalus was supposedly ""married"" as many as five times, lavishing favours on male courtiers popularly thought to have been his lovers,[3][4] and was reported to have prostituted himself in the imperial palace."" They attained their position through accident of birth. Human history has never and never will be meritocratic. In fact it's slightly more meritocratic in the last hundred years than it's ever been.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510346128 148887363,148906708,2017-11-10 20:35:57,">>148906438 So you think it's more efficient for society to spend money building and maintaining 5 roads, instead of just having 1?",,Anonymous,1465748396720.png,65kkYwjLWDcscMC3iZlydg==,US,,1510346157 148887363,148906797,2017-11-10 20:36:40,">>148906001 >A ""white christian society"" isn't as monetarily profitable for private interests. i don't care about max profits and i'd rather see the true americans preserved. >If a person's ""free"" to enforce their sign that says no blacks, no jews, etc. they're also ""free"" to enforce the sign that welcomes blacks, jews, etc. That second part is always left out. its not actually, because in a covenant founded for the purpose of white christian families, it should go without saying they would be removed from the covent(our 'state' or city's) land",,TPM,Private propery to weed out 'bads'.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,,,1510346200 148887363,148906835,2017-11-10 20:36:57,,,Anonymous,75401C9C-B542-4FD2-B914-51B9ADD817A1.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,US,,1510346217 148887363,148906956,2017-11-10 20:38:05,">>148906113 >monopoly on violence Now define that, but without using completely arbitrary terms like the law, which is written by the state itself. >It does not produce what it has not already taken (via taxation) The CEO of a company doesn't produce anything that he hasn't already taken through the profits of product sales? >total control over individuals property Same deal as ""monopoly on violence"". >Artificial is just something made through unnatural means Is a dam built by a beaver unnatural? If so, do you concede that not only is ""the state"" unnatural, but also everything produced by the free market?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510346285 148887363,148906981,2017-11-10 20:38:16,">>148904710 lol you don't pay for kids when you adopt them you stupid lolsperg. The only thing you pay is the agency to help you find a child. But what you advocate for is selling and buying children like if you were to buy oranges in the local super market. Adoption is a very rigorous process and it takes years of extreme vetting to let a couple adopt a child. You want to make selling , buying, and re-selling kids like buying or sellings a fucking car. Literally want to make a big pedophile sex slave free market. fucking degenerate lolsperg fuck",,Anonymous,,,,,1510346296 148887363,148907043,2017-11-10 20:38:43,">>148906170 >Under Hitler we would've had more fucking freedom than anything we have today. i said after his death, he wasn't immortal, and things founded around great leader will NEED to find new ones, or have a monarchy, if it is to survive",,TPM,,,,,1510346323 148887363,148907135,2017-11-10 20:39:34,">>148906303 Traffic jabs and environmental disasters. Are being taken into account here. Having alternative path ways creates more smoother transition to areas that if there was one road.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510346374 148887363,148907137,2017-11-10 20:39:34,">>148887363 >>148906835 Keep on deep-throating Jewish lies, lolberts.",,Anonymous,LibertarianismIsJewish2.jpg,2OGe65FrO8l5PTB1m6Z8oA==,US,,1510346374 148887363,148907231,2017-11-10 20:40:23,">>148906220 lol you're so full of fucking shit in your ancuck society, if someone wants to import nonwhites then they can kek fucking civicucks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510346423 148887363,148907260,2017-11-10 20:40:39,,,Anonymous,lol gun control.jpg,kUmfEImi6vPSv3bGRcbuiw==,US,,1510346439 148887363,148907318,2017-11-10 20:41:07,">>148906303 but they do, i've driven all around texas, in fact the some of the best are private(dallas area mostly) to add on the roads are simply not giant interstates but small interconnected routes and other assortment of roads t.drove from edinburg to dallas on the backroads only, was very scenic",,TPM,,,,,1510346467 148887363,148907495,2017-11-10 20:42:36,">>148907137 oh wow the smartest demographic are also the intellectual giants of libertarianism who would have thought?",,Anonymous,jewish iq2.jpg,x5SkHsIbD9ZeAxYG9or1sQ==,US,,1510346556 148887363,148907582,2017-11-10 20:43:24,">>148907318 The back roads are intended for local residential traffic, not for mass transit. That's why we have highways and interstates. Trucks do incredible damage to the roads, and can't navigate tight turns very well. Probably the main reason we have them",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510346604 148887363,148907827,2017-11-10 20:45:13,">>148906797 >i don't care about max profits Then you lose in the free market. >a covenent founded for the purpose of white christian families That's what I meant by it needing to be pursued through collective interest. But what the bigger point is, and what I think you won't be willing to accept, is that in an environment of free market competition and individual liberty, this is the ONLY type of arrangement that can be tolerated... Others must be stamped out, regardless of private property rights. Because if not, the degeneracy will fester, and the Christian society will gradually succumb to it. Expulsion from OUR society isn't a solution.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510346713 148887363,148907832,2017-11-10 20:45:13,">>148906835 > in reality > YES WE SAVED WESTERN CIVILIZATION",,Anonymous,ancuck.jpg,J/huEJnYkYdJPp5I0U3wrQ==,,,1510346713 148887363,148908099,2017-11-10 20:47:37,">>148903370 I have had enough of you, your stupidity hurts me. I mean seriously how can you misunderstand my argument so badly. >>148904134 Sure you can get a hirearchy strcutre similar to feudalism. But unlike feudalism you have the same natural rights as those above you, plus you can legally own and trade land. >>148905137 Are you really defending fedualism? >>148905362 >Oligarchy You mean Oligopoly, idiot. When it comes to transportation, you got to look at the entire industry. Railways, Trams, Monorails, Cable Cars, Canals, Airplanes, and so on. And right now, I am near San Bernadino, and lets say I want to get to downtown San Diego. I can take many routs to get to my destination, and I even have the option of taking semi-private tollways which have less traffic and a more direct route. >>148905722 The image said nothing about lanes. There could be two, there could be 50. It could be a dirt roads, it could be concrete. It could be dark asphalt, or a lighter more environmentally friendly color.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510346857 148887363,148908122,2017-11-10 20:47:48,">>148906646 >The most natural way of living is in a mudhut chasing small fury animals with crude stone tipped spears lol what, what was the ancient era? > That's how the human race lived for the majority 150k years it has existed on this planet. HAHAHAHAH you actually believe that? do you even preflood societies? >No, you're being delusional as hell. Your ancestors were probably peasants in a feudal society. If you fell out of the right womb you became a baron, or a king. If you were book smart you could join the clergy and lived an austere life in a monastery. If you weren't you toiled in the mud until you died. As for the kings, there were multiple weak and incompetent kings, just as there were weak and incompetent emperors during the Roman era- one of whom was an open transsexual. serfdom, the tolling you talk of. would not exist as a man cannot be owned, basic tenet of libertarianism btw. and you pretend that there weren't literally every industry that was allowed per the tech, which was basically everything today except manufacturing, plenty lived good lives doing productive jobs and as traders, sailors, soldiers(which is how you became a knight), or being charismatic and taking power. i'm sorry you can't see how merit based this was. >Human history has never and never will be meritocratic. In fact it's slightly more meritocratic in the last hundred years than it's ever been. considering that you don't know shit of the old eras, i'm not taking your word for that",,TPM,,,,,1510346868 148887363,148908223,2017-11-10 20:48:38,">>148907043 > he wasn't immortal > what is bio-engineering that would've given us biological immortality by now His Successor would've been either his family member, a person of his choosing, or picked by the people. But Under NatSoc only the most accomplished and perfect people for the new Fuhrer position would've been picked. NatSoc filters everything until the best of the best get to fill important positions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510346918 148887363,148908420,2017-11-10 20:50:12,">>148887363 I made a thread like this a while ago, here was the retarded OP pic I made. Bump because off-brand libertarian threads are the best.",,Anonymous,1502139156616.jpg,RobL5AIqNBNMtissJUkUNw==,US,,1510347012 148887363,148908633,2017-11-10 20:51:53,">>148908223 My issue with National Socialism is its dependence on expansionism (at least in past implementations that really took off), primarily due to the isolationist aspect. In the ideal NatSoc nation, is it isolationist, and if so, how does it survive long-term without expansionism?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510347113 148887363,148908990,2017-11-10 20:54:48,">>148908099 >plane flights are only cost efficient for super long travel. Most travel is local, taking a car is way faster than renting a flight. Our airways are burdened enough anyway. >trains it's literally the same problem. Count ""train tracks"" as a ""road"". It's about the same size, and it's less convenient since you have to show up at a designated time, and won't have a car wherever you disembark. Trains are mainly intended to haul cargo and large quantities of goods across the country, not for passengers. >canals What is this meme? This is just one example, there are many natural monopolies. Such as the sewer system. Are you going to have competing sewer networks?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510347288 148887363,148909194,2017-11-10 20:56:33,">>148906956 Oh, looks like im going to have to use some intro material on you. 1. Can you pass on a right to somebody that you yourself don't have? >The CEO of a company doesn't produce anything that he hasn't already taken through the profits of product sales? ?......He producing stability to keep the company running. >total control over individuals property Same deal as ""monopoly on violence"". They can force you do what ever they want on your property if though they don't own the property.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510347393 148887363,148909512,2017-11-10 20:59:18,">>148908990 I fucking love railways, because where I live (Idaho), most of them are privatized and pretty well maintained. That's part of what turned me on to laissez-faire capitalism. What's also neat is you can do real cheap bulk shipping through rail, it's only a few dollars per cubic foot if you go with some companies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510347558 148887363,148909755,2017-11-10 21:01:34,">>148908420 Nice Im gonna go repost it else where. >>148908990 Trains can have the gauge re-scaled to fit smaller systems, and can be placed pretty much anywhere. As for canals, transporting goods on water is still the cheapest form of transporting goods. >Are you going to have competing sewer networks? Probably not. But I can't see why septic tank companies, and other competing firms can't compete with a sewer system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510347694 148887363,148910248,2017-11-10 21:05:36,">>148908122 >soldiers(which is how you became a knight), or being charismatic and taking power. i'm sorry you can't see how merit based this was. The sole reason people moved to the United States was because they couldn't move up the hierarchy in Europe. That's right. America was founded by proles. Did meritocracy exist in Europe, which case America got all of the riff-raff. However if that were true, why was America able to prosper and eventually supersede Europe? >serfdom, the tolling you talk of. would not exist as a man cannot be owned, basic tenet of libertarianism btw. If a city state is the private property of an individual, they are the de facto king of the land. Since it's their property they can almost any policy they want. At best your turning the clock back to 1215, the signing of the Magna Carta where the rights of the king were severely limited. In order to do this you need some check-balance to keep the king in check from overstepping his powers. The Magna Carta btw was one of the documents which inspired the Founding Fathers when they drafted the constitution. Libertarians seem intent to repeat the same stages of history that we've already encountered.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510347936 148887363,148910295,2017-11-10 21:06:07,">>148907231 you got no fucking clue what i or any right wing libertarian supports",,TPM,,,,,1510347967 148887363,148910430,2017-11-10 21:07:16,">>148909194 >Can you pass on a right to somebody that you yourself don't have? No, and that's not related to any of my questions so you're obviously not familiar with the intro material. >He producing stability to keep the company running Exactly. And why is that one large company better than multiple smaller independent companies? More resources being pooled. Same thing the state does for the society. >They can force you do what ever they want on your property if though they don't own the property. Oh? Is that true? So there has never been an uprising or revolution against a state? Since they can just ""force"" you to not take up arms against them, right? Monopoly of violence is a spook.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510348036 148887363,148910513,2017-11-10 21:07:58,">>148907582 that is why private corps would build their own roads for truck, or maintain state ones, and charge people for using it, all others can use the sideroads",,TPM,,,,,1510348078 148887363,148910699,2017-11-10 21:09:35,">>148910513 is this what you expect the world to look like?",,Anonymous,1504998826047.jpg,pqBMNfC3ofFXF2/KnZuhfw==,US,,1510348175 148887363,148910701,2017-11-10 21:09:36,">>148908099 >But unlike feudalism you have the same natural rights as those above you, plus you can legally own and trade land. People often became feudal serfs for economic reasons. They'd incurred debts they couldn't repay or their crops had failed and thus had to agree to a binding contract with someone else. How can you limit the power and scope of contractual agreements in a free-market libertarian society? ""A freeman became a serf usually through force or necessity. Sometimes the greater physical and legal force of a local magnate intimidated freeholders or allodial owners into dependency. Often a few years of crop failure, a war, or brigandage might leave a person unable to make his own way. In such a case he could strike a bargain with a lord of a manor. In exchange for gaining protection, his service was required: in labour, produce, or cash, or a combination of all. These bargains became formalized in a ceremony known as ""bondage"", in which a serf placed his head in the lord's hands, akin to the ceremony of homage where a vassal placed his hands between those of his overlord. These oaths bound the lord and his new serf in a feudal contract and defined the terms of their agreement.[11] Often these bargains were severe."" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom#Becoming_a_serf",,Anonymous,,,,,1510348176 148887363,148910756,2017-11-10 21:10:03,">>148908223 never count on immortality, never that is just silly, i don't doubt the nazi could pull it off, but don't count on it",,TPM,,,,,1510348203 148887363,148910821,2017-11-10 21:10:37,">>148910295 He's not referring to your specific community within Ancap, he's referring to the entirety. Are you prepared to violate the NAP, set aside all your convictions about property rights, and destroy neighboring societies whose ideals undermine yours?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510348237 148887363,148911161,2017-11-10 21:13:28,">>148887363 Your system has been proven to have an shitty outcome. State must and will intervene on markets, and will be the bridge which connects society's demands with a prosperous economy. It's a matter of time for socialism you idebted dinosaurs",,Anonymous,,,,,1510348408 148887363,148911312,2017-11-10 21:14:44,">>148910430 >No, and that's not related to any of my questions so you're obviously not familiar with the intro material. I'm getting to the point. Alright good, Now can you vote in someone to have a right that you don't have? >Exactly. And why is that one large company better than multiple smaller independent companies? Never said it was >More resources being pooled. Same thing the state does for the society. No, you see, the state first takes your money and (if it does) gives you a product that you didn't even ask for. And even if you did, the doesn't mean the quality. They have no incentive because they'll get paid in the long wrong. Plus they face no market failures because they're funded by taxation. >Oh? Is that true? So there has never been an uprising or revolution against a state? Since they can just ""force"" you to not take up arms against them, right? Don't pay your taxes and see what happens.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510348484 148887363,148911352,2017-11-10 21:15:07,">>148887363 >Pretending that the influx of NatSoc autists wasn't beneficial to a board full of AnCap chronic autists You're a seasoned fag, not an oldfag",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510348507 148887363,148911557,2017-11-10 21:17:05,">>148910821 >he's referring to the entirety What the fuck is that? Is it so hard for you - personally - the leave other people be?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510348625 148887363,148911580,2017-11-10 21:17:13,">>148911312 >The quality *the quailty is good",,Anonymous,,,,,1510348633 148887363,148911605,2017-11-10 21:17:22,">>148910248 >The sole reason people moved to the United States was because they couldn't move up the hierarchy in Europe are you daft, it was for religious freedom from the oppressiveness of the kings, and radicals that wanted them overthrown, basically if mars opened up, we and people worried about being waco'd would move up there >If a city state is the private property of an individual, they are the de facto king of the land. Since it's their property they can almost any policy they want. yes i know that a man would become king of his own land, that is good, but the institution of serfdom, which is a people tied to the land, would not be a thing >The Magna Carta btw was one of the documents which inspired the Founding Fathers when they drafted the constitution. Libertarians seem intent to repeat the same stages of history that we've already encountered. you realize libertarianism would also be a fuck you to the ones in power, as they could not order the people around like the king did in the first place. imagine the social contract, but a real one, like when you sign up to rent a place. the king could not violate his own contract, as it most likely be a contract that everyone who lived there would would commonly have signed, or leave to a new place, or settle new land. after all if the king cannot actually protect his land past the city then one could start one the next city a few hills over",,TPM,,,,,1510348642 148887363,148911714,2017-11-10 21:18:13,">>148887363 >remind them that this was an AnCap board before all the NEETs showed up Your ""ideology"" is nothing more than a badly forced meme. You have shitted up this board the same way that the pony fags used to. This board was never Ancrap. Piss off.",,Anonymous,1506082246680.jpg,MCuUj7MWuhg4Q7Xy0O5KtQ==,AU,,1510348693 148887363,148911777,2017-11-10 21:18:47,">>148910821 yep that's what makes me an hoppean ancap, and what makes him a nazi is the belief that the has the right to do what must be done to preserve his country",,TPM,,,,,1510348727 148887363,148911937,2017-11-10 21:20:13,">>148887363 Divide and conquer shill.",,Anonymous,1499960041847.png,Ojlqu3jHhFdLO/PCLvrnlA==,,,1510348813 148887363,148911980,2017-11-10 21:20:34,">>148911714 The board has never ""been"" anything. There have consistently been many libertarians who come here since it was fucking /new/ though.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510348834 148887363,148912018,2017-11-10 21:20:54,">>148910699 isn't that already what it looks like? as your pic shows, and also air travel exists. you can literally rig up a gyrocopter with a welding kit and a book or 2 under your belt i got the kit, but need money for the parts, so i'll get back to you on the last bit",,TPM,,,,,1510348854 148887363,148912403,2017-11-10 21:24:15,">>148906981 >But what you advocate for is selling and buying children like if you were to buy oranges in the local super market We don't advocate for it. We're just saying how it would work. Selling you're kids would ensure that pretty much only those with the means and desire to raise kids would be able to adopt. And they're not going to sold cheap.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510349055 148887363,148912469,2017-11-10 21:24:45,,,Anonymous,ancap.png,erEDOOVW9ZLKl1dLc23P+Q==,US,,1510349085 148887363,148912515,2017-11-10 21:25:07,">>148911312 >I'm getting to the point Then get to it and answer your framing questions like I did. >Never said it was. You don't get to say whether it is, economics and the free market say it is. The more resources a company has, the more profit potential for the owners. >the state first takes your money The CEO first takes the profit from the products his employees labored on >and gives you a product that you didn't even ask for. You do ask for it, by continuing to live under the state's jurisdiction. >They have no incentive A government that doesn't satisfy its peoples demands doesn't remain in power. If the quality of what the government provides is shit then it's because the people aren't demanding anything better. >they face no market failures because they're funded by taxation. Wealth which comes from the market, not out of thin air (even if it's fiat, since its circulation in the economy assigns is what assigns it its monetary value). >Don't pay your taxes and see what happens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution As I said, monopoly on violence is a complete and utter spook. ""Individualist AnCap"" is devoid of logic and has zero substantiation beyond muh rights",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510349107 148887363,148912634,2017-11-10 21:26:14,">>148912469 ancom owning property, seem contradictory doesn't it?",,TPM,,,,,1510349174 148887363,148912701,2017-11-10 21:26:46,">>148907495 Wow, a lolbertarian praising literal kikes who would have thought. You're disgusting.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510349206 148887363,148912831,2017-11-10 21:28:01,">>148912515 There's so much shit in this post that's utterly disconnected from reality Jesus Christ. Whoever is wasting time on this guy is a moron.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510349281 148887363,148912908,2017-11-10 21:28:37,">>148911937 The only value shared between Ancap and Natsoc is a hatred for social Marxism and communism. Beyond that they are polar opposite ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510349317 148887363,148913031,2017-11-10 21:29:40,">>148911605 >are you daft, it was for religious freedom from the oppressiveness of the kings, and radicals that wanted them overthrown You implied it was meritocratic. So why didn't they just become rise up society to the point they could affect change? Why didn't they become the king. >you realize libertarianism would also be a fuck you to the ones in power, as they could not order the people around like the king did in the first place. No it wouldn't. It would just remove the few checks/balances that currently exist. It's a backdoor to feudalism. It was not anarchy that produced a free society in the US but the division of government and the checks/balances that are written into the constitution. I've seen no discussion by libertarians about the checks/balances within government needed to produce a free society. All you're doing is removing and dismantling the way our current institutions are set up and allowing the ""free market"" to decide the fate of civilization. That is not only intellectually lazy but also a recipe for disaster.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510349380 148887363,148913036,2017-11-10 21:29:43,">>148911557 >What the fuck is that? Everywhere that's Anarcho-Capitalist...? How is that confusing? >Is it so hard for you - personally - the leave other people be? Child's logic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510349383 148887363,148913130,2017-11-10 21:30:31,">>148912908 and that is what will bind us till we win over the commies hordes, then we settle into city states, becoming the economic powerhouse of them in exchange for sovereignty in our agreed upon territories",,TPM,,,,,1510349431 148887363,148913211,2017-11-10 21:31:12,">>148887363 >yfw Ancap societies literally cannot exist >Some one will monopolize force, and we'll go through the same societal evolutions all over again. How do Ancaps prevent force from being monopolized? How do ancaps prevent oligopolies on force? There are currently 195 entities with a monopoly on force, and most of them are subjugated to Russia, China, USA, and the EU.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510349472 148887363,148913393,2017-11-10 21:32:40,">>148912908 Why do you say that? Ancap can barely be considered an ideology, it's a system. And within that system, NatSoc can be implemented perfectly fine.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510349560 148887363,148913507,2017-11-10 21:33:36,">>148894915 AnCap destroyed in one post",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510349616 148887363,148913514,2017-11-10 21:33:39,">>148913036 >He's not referring to your specific community within Ancap, he's referring to the entirety If everyone is an ancap what problem are you referencing when you talk about violating NAP? >Child's logic It's a question. ""How many electrons are there in an iron atom"" must also be ""childish"" to you.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510349619 148887363,148913552,2017-11-10 21:33:56,">>148912831 >no argument in sight",,Anonymous,1505870566663.jpg,18kE9Y4wTAoXrIGoBxyylQ==,US,,1510349636 148887363,148913611,2017-11-10 21:34:25,">>148913031 why didn't they rise up? because the christian religion is one of being humble and living within your own community. not overthrowing the state. >No it wouldn't. It would just remove the few checks/balances that currently exist. It's a backdoor to feudalism. It was not anarchy that produced a free society in the US but the division of government and the checks/balances that are written into the constitution. the reason you think that is because you don't know what the strict libertarian philosophy entails, it entail that you don't need the check, to keep government in line only an armed and devoted citizen ship, see pic related for my beliefs on the subject",,TPM,1492855755661.jpg,jbfJSJyrKgy8s1tr3W8ZJw==,,,1510349665 148887363,148913772,2017-11-10 21:35:40,">>148913552 >A government that doesn't satisfy its peoples demands doesn't remain in power >North Korea ""satisfies its people's demands"" Statements that are self-refuting are a waste of time to bother arguing against, because anyone who would unironically state them is already a lost cause.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510349740 148887363,148913875,2017-11-10 21:36:29,">>148913211 guns for the most part there is NO force in the world that can prevent i monopolization or oligarchies, only guns and the will people, that is true no matter the country, time or place",,TPM,,,,,1510349789 148887363,148913999,2017-11-10 21:37:29,">>148913514 >If everyone is an ancap Wtf? Reading comprehension... He's talking about the entire society that IS ancap... It doesn't matter if your specific community within that society refuses to import nonwhites, since other communities can- and will, unless you stamp them out and enforce the idea of maintaining it all as a white Christian society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510349849 148887363,148914119,2017-11-10 21:38:32,">>148912515 >Then get to it and answer your framing questions like I did. The point being that they don't have the right to force you to do things. Yet they still do. They're the only insitution that on earth that can make you do something against your will on property they don't even own e.g. a monopoly on force. >The CEO first takes the profit from the products his employees labored on How? The CEO has paid off the employee's labor with money. That being they traded. >You do ask for it, by continuing to live under the state's jurisdiction. The state does not own me, nor do they own the land. I can't secede if I want to because the state won't allow me. >A government that doesn't satisfy its peoples demands doesn't remain in power. If the quality of what the government provides is shit then it's because the people aren't demanding anything better. PFFFTT HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah tell that to health care right now. You can't fire the government now can you? >Wealth which comes from the market, not out of thin air (even if it's fiat, since its circulation in the economy assigns is what assigns it its monetary value). You're missing the point, the state takes your wealth either way. It doesn't matter where the wealth comes from. >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution I'm talking about right now.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510349912 148887363,148914265,2017-11-10 21:39:37,">>148913999 >He's talking about the entire society that IS ancap So everyone's ancap. Which is what I inferred when I said >If everyone is an ancap(...) You're struggling with basic English syntax.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510349977 148887363,148914499,2017-11-10 21:41:14,">>148913211 This kills the ancap",,Anonymous,050201.jpg,OIiYzk1e0KuhhBIAq3Cztw==,US,,1510350074 148887363,148914737,2017-11-10 21:43:03,">>148913772 North Korea literally is satisfying its people's demands. The people aren't making very lofty demands, because they're cucks and accept tyrannical rule. What happens when a people aren't cucks? They make larger demands. And if the government fails to meet them, what happens? The government loses power. The entire history of human civilization demonstrates this. It's a very simple relationship.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510350183 148887363,148914750,2017-11-10 21:43:11,">>148914499 Deadweight loss is what you get from each and every government dictate that forces changes in market behavior.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510350191 148887363,148914881,2017-11-10 21:44:25,">>148913393 Have you even read anything from either ideology? They could not co-exist each other. Now an homogeneous ethnic population could exist, but that is about it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510350265 148887363,148914975,2017-11-10 21:45:09,">>148914737 >North Korea literally is satisfying its people's demands Jesus Christ they all hate it and want to escape. They can't fight back because the state has literally all the arms. No - I'm done. I used three posts of my life on a person I'd recognized at first glance as a self-deluded dipshit. Bye.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510350309 148887363,148915159,2017-11-10 21:46:33,">>148914750 DWLs also occur under monopolies when they produce at MR=MC",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510350393 148887363,148915458,2017-11-10 21:48:45,">>148915159 Natural monopolies are a non-factor in a free market, and virtually every monopoly anyone can point to in all of the history of economics have been the result of state policy stifling competition or by directly sanctioning monopolies like in the case of utilities.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510350525 148887363,148915646,2017-11-10 21:50:11,">>148913611 >why didn't they rise up? because the christian religion is one of being humble and living within your own community. not overthrowing the state. By rise up I meant work your way up. If it was meritocratic they should have been able to increase their status through hard work. They wouldn't have needed to emigrate. The US was not founded by the Barons and Counts of Europe. It was founded by relatively ordinary people. >it entail that you don't need the check, to keep government in line only an armed and devoted citizen ship The reason for that is it's in the constitution. To be fair I think we agree more than we disagree. If there's one way to summarize my point it's as follows. You cannot replace all of a society's institutions with the free market and the NAP, and expect to have a functioning society. A lot of work went into producing the constitution and other founding documents in other countries.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510350611 148887363,148915654,2017-11-10 21:50:19,,,Anonymous,antard.png,1e3b3DO6SJXHUJyxIDvLCw==,,,1510350619 148887363,148915826,2017-11-10 21:51:40,">>148914119 >They're the only insitution that on earth that can make you do something against your will on property they don't even own Armed robbers don't exist? >How? The CEO has paid off the employee's labor with money. That being they traded. And part of the trade was that the CEO takes profit from the employee's labor. >The state does not own me, nor do they own the land. Arbitrary definitions aren't allowed, remember? >I can't secede if I want to because the state won't allow me. No, the state won't allow you to secede in the manner that you WANT to. That doesn't mean you can't secede. >You can't fire the government now can you? If you couldn't, then there would be literally zero point in trying to fight it... >You're missing the point, the state takes your wealth either way. There is no point. But it does matter where the wealth comes form, since that's what decides whose it is. Ownership != ""I'm holding this, therefore it's mine"" >I'm talking about right now. Don't you dare ""current year"" me",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510350700 148887363,148916001,2017-11-10 21:52:59,">>148914265 >So everyone's ancap If that ancap society were the only one that existed. Unless you're only talking in the context of that society, in which case you're genuinely autistic.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510350779 148887363,148916186,2017-11-10 21:54:21,">>148916001 So in the hypothetical, everyone is an ancap. What is your insoluble ""problem"" exactly?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510350861 148887363,148916456,2017-11-10 21:56:25,">>148914975 >Jesus Christ they all hate it and want to escape. That's the opposite of making a demand. >They can't fight back because the state has literally all the arms. The state is a magical, divine entity? It's not comprised of people? Or did you mean the state confiscated the ability for them to commit violence? It doesn't matter how much you try to explain and justify their weakness, the fact remains that they're weak, and it doesn't refute my point.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510350985 148887363,148916837,2017-11-10 21:59:23,">>148916456 >toddler pushes pot off stairwell at dinner party >pot falls on someone's head, kills them >(You): ""SURVIVAL OF LE FITTEST HE WAS WEAK THE WEAK SHOULD FEAR THE STRONG xD"" SANNOUNCING AGE",,NOPE,,,,,1510351163 148887363,148917062,2017-11-10 22:01:16,">>148916186 >in the hypothetical What hypothetical? ""In an Ancap society"" is a hypothetical? >What is your insoluble ""problem"" exactly? There is none. My entire point was me outlining the solution. Read next time, faggot",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510351276 148887363,148917162,2017-11-10 22:02:13,">>148915646 i mean work your way up too, no christian would aspire to be baron or king, because the afterlife guarantees them more. for a deus flag you are disappointing >If there's one way to summarize my point it's as follows. You cannot replace all of a society's institutions with the free market and the NAP, and expect to have a functioning society. A lot of work went into producing the constitution and other founding documents in other countries. of course you can't but that's because you need charities and private standards organizations as a framework BEFORE you destroy the gov, if you want people to still live anyways. the solutions is unironically this meme image",,TPM,1496688253348.png,A41hd2Uzy89tAhGkVs1YNg==,,,1510351333 148887363,148917189,2017-11-10 22:02:25,">>148896564 >wikipedia as a source",,Anonymous,step up.jpg,G2qNHhR7HVCMQ8k8+bf1LQ==,US,,1510351345 148887363,148917224,2017-11-10 22:02:48,">>148915826 >Armed robbers don't exist? That state are armed robbers. >And part of the trade was that the CEO takes profit from the employee's labor. How did CEO take the profit out of the employee labor? Arbitrary definitions aren't allowed, remember? Would the word government be more cohesive to you? No, the state won't allow you to secede in the manner that you WANT to. That doesn't mean you can't secede. So you're telling me I can do disassociate myself and my property on how I see fit? Wow, It almost like the state controls you. >If you couldn't, then there would be literally zero point in trying to fight it... The thing is we can. >There is no point. But it does matter where the wealth comes form, since that's what decides whose it is. Ownership != ""I'm holding this, therefore it's mine"" No ancap uses that definition of ownership. If that was the case then still would be justified. Ownership is only justified if its an extension of ones self, that being the fruits of ones labor. >Don't you dare ""current year"" me Yeah because the the government right now is the same on as it was back in 1780s.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510351368 148887363,148917653,2017-11-10 22:06:13,">>148916837 >The people ACCIDENTALLY gave up all their weapons to the state, xD >We're all equal, it's completely by chance that some societies fare worse than others Thanks for taking off your other flag, but this one doesn't seem appropriate for you either. AnCom might suit you better.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510351573 148887363,148918156,2017-11-10 22:10:33,What do you hardcore bioshock fans do for work?? Obviously not working class am i right?,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510351833 148887363,148918204,2017-11-10 22:10:59,">>148917653 >The people ACCIDENTALLY gave up all their weapons to the state >in 1948 THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ALIVE IN NORTH KOREA SURE HAD A WHOLE LOT TO DO WITH THE EVENTS OF 1948 MHM LEMME TELL YA WHOT",,NAH,1487949426999.png,pfF4EkpsVn+IPtCPnGiGEA==,,,1510351859 148887363,148918440,2017-11-10 22:12:48,">>148917162 >i mean work your way up too, no christian would aspire to be baron or king, because the afterlife guarantees them more. for a deus flag you are disappointing Protestant/Angligan work ethic encouraged success. Most American settlers wanted to be successful it's just that they couldn't succeed in Europe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510351968 148887363,148918839,2017-11-10 22:16:21,">>148917224 >That state are armed robbers. This isn't an answer to my question. Your claim was that the state is the only one that can force you to do something against your will on your property. You either deny every other instance of this being done by things that aren't states, or you define a burglar who breaks into your home and robs you at gunpoint as a ""state"". >How did CEO take the profit out of the employee labor? By channeling all of it through the company and dividing it accordingly? >Would the word government be more cohesive to you? I was talking about ""own"". >So you're telling me I can do disassociate myself and my property on how I see fit? Yes...... >The thing is we can. See? >Ownership is only justified if its an extension of ones self, that being the fruits of ones labor Boy get the fuck out with that Marxist shit. It's not the labor, it's simply the closest objective connection. But that's why it's arbitrary and you could say that this other abstract concept (""the state"") actually owns all the land and is just """"""renting"""""" it to us. >Yeah because the the government right now is the same on as it was back in 1780s. Nobody said it was the same. But you're trying to say revolution is impossible now... Even though you just now agreed with me that it was possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510352181 148887363,148919405,2017-11-10 22:20:57,">>148918204 >THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ALIVE IN NORTH KOREA SURE HAD A WHOLE LOT TO DO WITH THE EVENTS OF 1948 MHM LEMME TELL YA WHOT Observe the hyper-individualist's primitive brain malfunction and start to shut down as he tries to understand what relation a current generation of people might have with a previous generation. They're in the same fucking society you drooling autistic retard.",,Anonymous,1505549716063.jpg,Q8BpFOaFdVNc6dIK4xVE7Q==,US,,1510352457 148887363,148919551,2017-11-10 22:22:13,">>148919405 >They're in the same fucking society >made up of entirely different people COLLECTIVISTS LAMAO",,KEXD,1490846199167.jpg,dmVI+rJg8/v/57PGmN//zQ==,,,1510352533 148887363,148920464,2017-11-10 22:29:36,">>148918839 >This isn't an answer to my question. >Your claim was that the state is the only one that can force you to do something against your will on your property. >You either deny every other instance of this being done by things that aren't states, or you define a burglar who breaks into your home and robs you at gunpoint as a ""state"". That being they can force you to do what they want legitimately. Do to the mindset that people thinks its necessary. Under normal circumstances when someone takes your money its called theft. However when the state does it its called taxation. My point being the state is illegitimate. >By channeling all of it through the company and dividing it accordingly? What does that even mean? The worker traded his labor for some money that was given by the CEO. Where is the ""take out"" profit? >I was talking about ""own"". see ** >See? Yeah but people still think that government is necessary. So they're not getting rid of it. >Boy get the fuck out with that Marxist shit. It's not the labor, it's simply the closest objective connection. But that's why it's arbitrary and you could say that this other abstract concept (""the state"") actually owns all the land and is just """"""renting"""""" it to us. **Ok if I'm on a island with someone and I decide to build a hut and the other person doesn't and sits around all day. Who owns the hut? >But you're trying to say revolution is impossible now... Even though you just now agreed with me that it was possible. When did I say that?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510352976 148887363,148920562,2017-11-10 22:30:32,">>148919551 There's not much I love more than outing libshit egalitarians",,Anonymous,1504250395694.jpg,o+kqOqeYcNmYn7NyUFEACA==,US,,1510353032 148887363,148920986,2017-11-10 22:33:52,">>148918440 okay i'll give you that it was hard to get into nobility, but it wasn't hard to succeed, after all, there was nothing to keep the hard working christians from making crafts and selling them, but there was religious oppression of puritans, baptists, angeligan, whatever faction you please, and that was worth the trip, after all wasn't the first settlers quakers or puritans? and the came because they HAD to follow the church of england or face possible death?",,TPM,,,,,1510353232 148887363,148921260,2017-11-10 22:36:15,">>148920562 >lib >egalitarian",,LEMAO,1405038436645.jpg,6YMweOK+6C3UmAtCkR9ySQ==,,,1510353375 148887363,148922283,2017-11-10 22:45:27,">>148920464 >they can force you to do what they want legitimately >My point being the state is illegitimate Anon... Also, if taxation is theft then so is rent. But they're not, as both are carried out under terms of mutual compliance. Yes, you are complying with the arrangement wherein the government comes and arrests you for not paying taxes. >Where is the ""take out"" profit? Do you think the money the CEO's trading in exchange for the worker's labor appears out of thin air? >Yeah but people still think that government is necessary. So they're not getting rid of it. Is that not perfectly legitimate? >Who owns the hut? Whoever owns the island and thus the materials you built that hut out of. If nobody, then congratulations... But that doesn't apply to today, as all territory in the US is already owned. >When did I say that? >>You can't fire the government now can you? >>The thing is, we can",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510353927 148887363,148922418,2017-11-10 22:46:42,">>148921260 Nobody said reality was on your side.",,Anonymous,1502820285460.png,7Wc9OcpjnXH8utXhTAyGFg==,US,,1510354002 148887363,148922621,2017-11-10 22:48:38,>>148922418,,RLY MAEKS,1407868559441.png,//izdH+FP54jbltkQN0sdw==,,,1510354118 148887363,148923241,2017-11-10 22:54:20,">>148922621 >If I post pics for him to save, he'll think I'm on his side and didn't just out myself as a deluded egalitarian who thinks people define themselves and aren't the products of their predecessors I'll admit, I've never triggered one of you tripfags hard enough to make you retreat to the Name field. fells purrty good t.b.h.",,Anonymous,1506818610613.jpg,ynI0zLE84E4H+5vTNmxFnw==,US,,1510354460 148887363,148923516,2017-11-10 22:56:58,">>148923241 >determinist LA MAO",,AGES,1454830753125.jpg,4hWe9TkVyU/hdUHp02SIFg==,,,1510354618 148887363,148923813,2017-11-10 22:59:47,">>148922283 >Anon... Maybe it is my fault for not being clear. My point is that the State (government) is illegitimate. However in people's minds they think it is legitimate. And allow it to do as it please. I never said there couldn't be a revolution. I was merely stating the fact that people have this mindset for necessity for the state, and that they where unlikely to fight back, even thought they violate your rights. >Also, if taxation is theft then so is rent. But they're not, as both are carried out under terms of mutual compliance. Yes, you are complying with the arrangement wherein the government comes and arrests you for not paying taxes. Lol no, Like I siad before the Government doesn't own me or my property. This isn't the governments land its the peoples. >Do you think the money the CEO's trading in exchange for the worker's labor appears out of thin air? It comes from the market, not the employee. Which is why I'm confused on the ""take out"" part. >Is that not perfectly legitimate? No it is not, you can have a government all you want, just don't involve me a or my money in it. Like whats happing right now. >Whoever owns the island and thus the materials you built that hut out of. If nobody, then congratulations... But that doesn't apply to today, as all territory in the US is already owned. what with if no one owns the island, who owns the hut? Also they're please of unowned land in the far west out there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510354787 148887363,148923833,2017-11-10 22:59:55,">>148923516 >the character and temperament of a person is the same as their free will Is this babby praceteom's intro to philosophy?",,Anonymous,1505946653474.jpg,r4xVghBpCaQmoJS3Jzer/A==,US,,1510354795 148887363,148924171,2017-11-10 23:03:11,">>148923833 >thoughts and beliefs are the mere product of past events >this isn't determinism because I don't want to call it that xD BRILLIANCE INCARNATE!",,LAD,1473007913958.jpg,mDEMS2D+FBapAMdK/mn0FA==,,,1510354991 148887363,148924981,2017-11-10 23:10:36,">>148923813 >However in people's minds they think it is legitimate. And in your mind, it is illegitimate... What's the difference here besides that they have more influence at the moment? >This isn't the governments land its the peoples. The people who instituted that government and comply with it behaving as though they own us? >It comes from the market, not the employee The employee is part of the market. He creates the value and in order for the CEO to capitalize on the value and create profit, the employee allows him to take part of it and cover those costs. It's the exact same format for the state with society. >Like whats happing right now. I neither caused you to be born here nor am I forcing you to stay. >if no one owns the island, who owns the hut? You, as I said. But it's not applicable. There is no unowned land in the far west, the state or federal government own it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510355436 148887363,148925404,2017-11-10 23:14:26,">>148924171 >a people's feebleness and their inability to act on their thoughts and beliefs are the same as those thoughts and beliefs Really putting that advanced cognitive ability on display :^)",,Anonymous,1507851861956.png,2NQ69SGCL9RKBIiHNZjhXQ==,US,,1510355666 148887363,148925830,2017-11-10 23:18:23,">>148925404 YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS! PEOPLE'S LIFE CHOICES ARE - PARADOXICALLY - NOT A RESULT OF THEM CHOOSING ANYTHING, BUT ARE A RESULT OF PRE-DETERMINED FORCES THAT RENDERED THE POSSIBILITY OF CHOICE IMPOSSIBLE TO BEGIN WITH! YOU ARE CERTAINLY NOT A DETERMINIST NO SIREE JOE BOB!",,LEL,laughinganimegirls#683.jpg,BIflv719NmsoTvaYxLC1Uw==,,,1510355903 148887363,148926110,2017-11-10 23:21:08,">>148924981 >What's the difference here besides that they have more influence at the moment? The fact being I can prove it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fasTSY-dB-s >The people who instituted that government and comply with it behaving as though they own us? Yeah they don't. >The employee is part of the market. He creates the value and in order for the CEO to capitalize on the value and create profit, the employee allows him to take part of it and cover those costs. It's the exact same format for the state with society. Yeah labor market, and the CEO bought labor from him, and the CEO sold it. Wheres the ""take out"" because all I see it trade. >am I forcing you to stay. But the government is. e.g. no secession. >You, as I said. But it's not applicable. Wow, its almost like the hunt is the fruits of my labor.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510356068 148887363,148926294,2017-11-10 23:22:46,">>148924981 >muh we consent I didn't consent to being born let alone inside some country you nigger.",,Anonymous,XuvaoXq.jpg,mnJhAqdd3WhgRbO9ewwp2w==,,,1510356166 148887363,148926569,2017-11-10 23:25:10,">>148925830 >PEOPLE'S LIFE CHOICES ARE - PARADOXICALLY - NOT A RESULT OF THEM CHOOSING ANYTHING, BUT ARE A RESULT OF PRE-DETERMINED FORCES THAT RENDERED THE POSSIBILITY OF CHOICE IMPOSSIBLE TO BEGIN WITH! >Norks can't resist their evil government because the state took all their guns!!!",,Anonymous,1507853649685.jpg,QgCtGTyA9pYaMYIxRLQk/w==,US,,1510356310 148887363,148926995,2017-11-10 23:29:04,">>148926294 I said comply instead of consent for a reason, you nigger. But what you did agree to was to continue living here, occupying space, using up resources, and enjoying the protections.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510356544 148887363,148927061,2017-11-10 23:29:43,">>148926569 They could - most or all of them would die. Do you think it's UNREASONABLE that people not engage in activities they have every expectation of being murdered by others should they pursue? Do you think POORLY of starving, impoverished, and literally enslaved people held at gunpoint?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510356583 148887363,148927224,2017-11-10 23:31:13,">>148905000 What part of ""city fire department"" says ""free market"" to you?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510356673 148887363,148927324,2017-11-10 23:32:11,">>148887363 Does trading crypto make me ancap?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510356731 148887363,148927543,2017-11-10 23:34:01,">>148927324 No, but if you really get into why crypto can be uniquely valuable you're lead to look at monetary theory and monetary policy, which generally will lead you to actively despising governments.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510356841 148887363,148927842,2017-11-10 23:36:31,">>148926110 >linking a video Just summarize >Yeah they don't. Why does this government still exist, then? Not complying means resisting, where is the resistance? >Wheres the ""take out"" because all I see it trade. And I explained what the trade is... You literally greentexted me explaining it. Why are you ignoring it? >e.g. no secession That's not you leaving the government's jurisdiction, that's you removing the government's jurisdiction. And, as we have already established, the government saying ""That's not allowed!"" doesn't mean you can't do it. >Wow, its almost like the hunt is the fruits of my labor Then you concede that land that's already owned is not the fruits of ""your"" labor, but the labor of who already owns it, in this case the government. Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510356991 148887363,148927888,2017-11-10 23:36:59,">>148887363 god bless ancapistan",,Anonymous,,,,,1510357019 148887363,148928309,2017-11-10 23:40:52,">>148927543 Oh yeah, I've already been down that rabbit hole. I wouldn't be holding or trading it right now if I didn't believe in cryptocurrency and the blockchain tech. Fiat money is garbage and it's only a matter of time before the house of cards collapses.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510357252 148887363,148928534,2017-11-10 23:43:04,>>148887363,,Amomynous,3fb04cadf276bd28fdb18905beec0d89.gif,P7BMrfJ2vSj9sYkFvuwNiQ==,,,1510357384 148887363,148928784,2017-11-10 23:45:37,">>148928309 Well BTC and most cryptos are fiat too - they're not attached to any commodity nor are they themselves commodities with value outside its use as an anti-inflationary store of value and medium of exhange. It's just not centrally controlled fiat which is the thing.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510357537 148887363,148929034,2017-11-10 23:47:48,">>148927061 >most or all of them would die. >>It doesn't matter how much you try to explain and justify their weakness, the fact remains that they're weak, and it doesn't refute my point. >Do you think it's UNREASONABLE that people not engage in activities >moving goalposts >Do you think POORLY of starving, impoverished, and literally enslaved people held at gunpoint? >appeals to emotion",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510357668 148887363,148929308,2017-11-10 23:50:18,">>148927842 >Just summarize You're going to have to watch it on your own time. Fundamental material. As well as this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_GaDjonC5M >Why does this government still exist, then? Not complying means resisting, where is the resistance? Because people still believe in it. >And I explained what the trade is... You literally greentexted me explaining it. Why are you ignoring it? Its not the same as state and society because the state first take your money (with out consent) and thing give you something in return. The thing is the worker and the CEO both agreeded to the arrangement. Unlike me and the state. Jurisdiction they never have. Its no different than just cutting off a contract. Which I can't do with the government. >Then you concede that land that's already owned is not the fruits of ""your"" labor, but the labor of who already owns it, in this case the government. Thanks. Maybe this will help you understand, how did the government acquire the right to my labor? Because they wrote in down a a piece of paper? I never agreed to anything.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510357818 148887363,148929483,2017-11-10 23:51:37,">>148929034 >autistic retard cripple has gun pointed at fit supergenius moral paragon >pulls trigger >""LOL DA WEEK WIL B CULLED BY TEH STRENG xD"" Hobbes is a moron but there was at least that ONE SINGLE LESSON you could have gleaned from him that you utterly failed to. Kill yourself and goodnight retard!",,DEUS VULT,1470812661997s.jpg,HAiTHVAc3u4pjwSmAdEjpw==,,,1510357897 148887363,148930115,2017-11-10 23:57:33,">>148929308 >Because people still believe in it. You claimed the people didn't comply. >the state first take your money This is the first step in the trade between a CEO and a worker as well, except the wealth is represented in the product rather than a currency. >(with out consent) Even though we already settled that, it's not relevant to this part. This was just about how the format is the same between the two. >how did the government acquire the right to my labor I never said it did. Nobody forced you to build a hut on that island. But if the island was owned beforehand, it doesn't matter if you ""agreed"" with that or not.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510358253 148887363,148930448,2017-11-11 00:00:50,">>148929483 >reverts back to the same nonargument that preempted his previous autistic breakdown It's a shame. It looked like there was hope for a minute there but it's clear now... You're defective beyond repair. Oh well. Make sure to take your pills before beddy-bye, like Doctor told you.",,Anonymous,1502820596795.jpg,I1U9Zo22yCK0D3a/NUZJWg==,US,,1510358450 148887363,148930915,2017-11-11 00:05:08,">>148930115 >You claimed the people didn't comply. They comply because they believe in it, that doesn't mean they're belief is justified. >This is the first step in the trade between a CEO and a worker as well, except the wealth is represented in the product rather than a currency. The CEO does not take your labor. Are you telling be the worker didn't willing give it to him? If not, then hes a slave. The difference being the government forces you to give you labor up and the CEO has to ask you to give it to him. >Even though we already settled that, it's not relevant to this part. This was just about how the format is the same between the two. consent is relevant. Its the very thing that distinguishes between theft and trade. >I never said it did. Nobody forced you to build a hut on that island. But if the island was owned beforehand, it doesn't matter if you ""agreed"" with that or not. How did the government acquire the right to land that it itself most likely never even been to?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510358708 148887363,148931908,2017-11-11 00:15:24,">>148930915 Your belief isn't justified either. >The CEO does not take your labor. Yes, he does... Take doesn't mean ""steal"". >the government forces you to give you labor up Fine, then the free market also forces you to give your labor up, since you have to make things for a company or make things for a consumer in order to earn money and sustain yourself. >consent is relevant. Its the very thing that distinguishes between theft and trade. Theft and trade wasn't the topic in that part. >How did the government acquire the right to land that it itself most likely never even been to? By doing the same thing CEOs do. We have been through this.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510359324 148887363,148931993,2017-11-11 00:16:17,So nobody answered this >>148908633,,Anonymous,,,US,,1510359377 148887363,148932511,2017-11-11 00:21:41,">>148930915 I watched the video, by the way. The voices are pretty unbearable but I got through it and it isn't ""proof"" of anything. It's just the standard talking points, and the ones pertaining to our convo, I already refuted. You supported my refutations yourself by admitting that the people themselves not only back the arrangement, but also back the government's use of the mass threat of violence to enforce the arrangement.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510359701 148924199,148924199,2017-11-10 23:03:23,"Welp /lrg/ is dead again looks like the market is wide open for us. Discord: ysHXtn9 I need food good thing I'm not a commie else I'd be hungry for a while Old thread: >>148887363",AnCap General /acg/ I'm Fucking Hungry Edition!,Anonymous,chad_ancap.png,s6/Ay5AhdpyIRVNmnyn0fQ==,,,1510355003 148924199,148924605,2017-11-10 23:06:54,Bumping for freedom,,Anonymous,1507951213856.png,V4hBk0nUmWQaY7kXrJv7Zg==,,,1510355214 148924199,148924650,2017-11-10 23:07:16,,,Anonymous,1510357374133.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1510355236 148924199,148924724,2017-11-10 23:07:58,">>148924605 Wrong flag feggit",,Anonymous,1510357473502m.jpg,W+BRCrQDLij+D1q6ZNxs5g==,,,1510355278 148924199,148924801,2017-11-10 23:08:48,,,Anonymous,1510357323922m.jpg,0q/GP8vLbJMeNe0+chF6+g==,,,1510355328 148924199,148924871,2017-11-10 23:09:27,,,Anonymous,1510355778249.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,,,1510355367 148924199,148924964,2017-11-10 23:10:26,,,Anonymous,1508470077327.jpg,Ocp3a+N46jrG8Uvq+VtQrQ==,,,1510355426 148924199,148925382,2017-11-10 23:14:15,,,Anonymous,1510371375873.jpg,6YMweOK+6C3UmAtCkR9ySQ==,,,1510355655 148924199,148926122,2017-11-10 23:21:14,Lurking and saving,,Anonymous,,,US,,1510356074 148924199,148926642,2017-11-10 23:25:49,">>148924199 >itt: op sucks his own dick",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510356349 148984012,148984012,2017-11-11 11:31:15,"Discord: ysHXtn9 Daily reminder that NatSocs are still Socialists.",AnCap General /acg/ Saturday Edition!,Anonymous,1510355778249.png,BLUNaeKqiM8Xh0HDbtS2fg==,,,1510399875 148984012,148984171,2017-11-11 11:32:39,,,Anonymous,muh_socialism.jpg,hfl9JXnNgMoHVtA55jSe3g==,CA,,1510399959 148984012,148984382,2017-11-11 11:34:31,">>148984171 If Whites were the superior race, why did they need collectivism to defend themselves so bad?",,Anonymous,1510357323922.jpg,0q/GP8vLbJMeNe0+chF6+g==,,,1510400071 148984012,148984468,2017-11-11 11:35:18,">>148984382 never claimed that",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510400118 148984012,148984594,2017-11-11 11:36:34,">>148984468 Social justice is a collectivist idea and exists to ""defend"" ""helpless"" ""people.""",,Anonymous,1510357682839.png,s6/Ay5AhdpyIRVNmnyn0fQ==,,,1510400194 148984012,148984893,2017-11-11 11:39:45,">>148984594 cool",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510400385 148984012,148984969,2017-11-11 11:40:27,">>148984171 Your chart is incomplete, nigger.",,Anonymous,3094.png,spamOa9X42errqgfRvihXA==,CA,,1510400427 148984012,148985054,2017-11-11 11:41:11,">>148984893 And you fucking advocate for it. Daily reminder the Poles aren't on you NEET's side.",,Anonymous,1510366682832.jpg,looqp/MD9yPtfb8pmBq0lQ==,,,1510400471 148984012,148985095,2017-11-11 11:41:33,>>148984012,,Anonymous,RandCap.png,SRRx6+p+fjqw6jGcDrqmHA==,US,,1510400493 148984012,148985211,2017-11-11 11:42:35,>>148985095,,Anonymous,1510357552347.jpg,tUL+k3kaiIpM0pfx6qACDg==,,,1510400555 148984012,148985233,2017-11-11 11:42:49,">>148985054 >implying i like poles there's nothing wrong with helping the helpless of my people non-asians aren't people though, of course",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510400569 148984012,148985281,2017-11-11 11:43:17,>>148984969,,Anonymous,1509659653267.jpg,MM37kphkkdGRjt5LeKDfbA==,US,,1510400597 148984012,148985377,2017-11-11 11:44:11,>>148985281,,Anonymous,1510344367687.jpg,08OOKiWCcjEoSSmA7C0NdA==,CA,,1510400651 148984012,148985409,2017-11-11 11:44:31,">>148985233 The helpless of your people deserve to die. If you were a true racialist you would concede you're fine with your race going extinct if it's lower quality than a better race.",,Anonymous,1510357374133.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1510400671 148984012,148985496,2017-11-11 11:45:08,>>148985211,,Anonymous,1505874963416.jpg,AO0V1Yn3i8592d4DN8R8yg==,US,,1510400708 148984012,148985559,2017-11-11 11:45:40,>>148985377,,Anonymous,1510368531072.jpg,UT7XKNPHwSuqUQ3ypPajcA==,US,,1510400740 148984012,148985590,2017-11-11 11:45:53,">>148985409 that picture is retarded i am not left wing, i am not right wing i do not want socialism for wh*tes fashwave is shit strong leaders are good.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510400753 148984012,148985772,2017-11-11 11:47:41,">>148985496 >>148985590 Which would you rather have ruling you?",,Anonymous,1510323806559.jpg,DitW8X4zBXIsJKCpkbMYuw==,,,1510400861 148984012,148985783,2017-11-11 11:47:48,>>148984012,,Anonymous,1509674706480.jpg,1t2V4+YWXBySpGSDW351wQ==,DE,,1510400868 148984012,148985833,2017-11-11 11:48:12,">>148984012 Shit b8,also sage for being a somalian faggot.",,Anonymous,,,RO,,1510400892 148984012,148985867,2017-11-11 11:48:35,>>148985783,,Anonymous,1509674742786.jpg,8k9tKsd4WMbdH0j1F9Pd2g==,DE,,1510400915 148984012,148985912,2017-11-11 11:48:58,>>148985867,,Anonymous,1509674797872.png,cY8DZ/yDulSlY99eZCoFbQ==,DE,,1510400938 148984012,148985968,2017-11-11 11:49:24,>>148985912,,Anonymous,1509674826513.png,T47ZFU6PRBkQ9LNR7G1cuw==,DE,,1510400964 148984012,148985976,2017-11-11 11:49:30,">>148985772 Is corruption the market working on the state?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510400970 148984012,148986041,2017-11-11 11:50:06,>>148985968,,Anonymous,1509674863948.png,Z1B892IcGCKJouzZODOx8Q==,DE,,1510401006 148984012,148986057,2017-11-11 11:50:18,">>148985772 the state i'd rather live under communism than capitalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401018 148984012,148986117,2017-11-11 11:50:55,>>148986041,,Anonymous,1509674927198.png,BBS3nkLedOhBgSHHQ9ZStQ==,DE,,1510401055 148984012,148986238,2017-11-11 11:52:03,Go suck off a BASED Black guy in your BASED Lolbertarian society,,Anonymous,42e3d62e12fe8fd32c3eeff7dc0d14d50f40be44dcf7a6efecc54f77b57b3959.jpg,uFeey8b5Ui884vj/OjyAVQ==,US,,1510401123 148984012,148986254,2017-11-11 11:52:12,">>148985976 Yes but you can't just get rid of the market so for minimum corruption get rid of the state :D",,Anonymous,1488646134668.png,tb24SZ5SXAAr9bRikoQtKQ==,,,1510401132 148984012,148986312,2017-11-11 11:52:43,">>148986057 look and everything in your apartment and maybe have a second thought. you'd live in USSR, you realize?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510401163 148984012,148986318,2017-11-11 11:52:45,">>148985772 One can't exist without the other, ya dingus.",,Anonymous,7360273837.png,e85Z62Jro1eydWSG6+cmfA==,US,,1510401165 148984012,148986374,2017-11-11 11:53:17,">>148986057 > why not move to china or venezuela? why do retards like you have such a problem with the west when there is more than enough opportunity for you in this world to move to the shithole you desire?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510401197 148984012,148986397,2017-11-11 11:53:29,">>148986312 Better a fast death under communism than a slow one under capitalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401209 148984012,148986427,2017-11-11 11:53:46,">>148986374 I am considering moving to China.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401226 148984012,148986474,2017-11-11 11:54:18,">>148986238 go get bombed into complete annihilation lol and btw: you're a socialist as well as the cultural marxists that create what you fear.",,Anonymous,1509674972689.png,My+n0yos0LvP/kLQh3Owjw==,DE,,1510401258 148984012,148986739,2017-11-11 11:55:34,">>148986397 >slow death will literaly only happen if you're a lazy fuck and do nothing all day.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510401334 148984012,148986743,2017-11-11 11:55:37,,,Anonymous,ancapsmug.png,SPt8HKwOEU08HT3OsDED9g==,US,,1510401337 148984012,148986796,2017-11-11 11:56:05,">>148986739 Talking about society.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401365 148984012,148986896,2017-11-11 11:56:57,">>148986796 Yea because once capitalism brings prosperity socialism takes over.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510401417 148984012,148986945,2017-11-11 11:57:27,">>148985912 kek",,Anonymous,,,,,1510401447 148984012,148986975,2017-11-11 11:57:41,">>148986896 >prosperity",,Anonymous,1509510293011.jpg,jrdG2rU/Pz92w29nEWepPw==,CA,,1510401461 148984012,148987013,2017-11-11 11:58:08,">>148986796 well capitalism did very good to our society, again compare your life standard to . and the elements that push degeneracy are cultural marxists so how is this a failure of capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510401488 148984012,148987023,2017-11-11 11:58:14,">>148986743 This Ancaps are deluded",,Anonymous,1500953506265.png,XtrDN3sVGA2c+f4ShwQc2A==,CA,,1510401494 148984012,148987053,2017-11-11 11:58:25,Been attending a weekly poker game at the local university and have been reprogramming the students on the free market and ancap principles. I think I've been doing ok but now I need to start teaching then the how a consistent logical ethical system can be created under the NAP. It's been fun seeing the years of programming of these 18 to 20 years suddenly being striped away.,,Anonymous,,,,,1510401505 148984012,148987121,2017-11-11 11:58:53,">>148986318 Look up ""The Machinery of Freedom"" on YouTube you faggot.",,Anonymous,1510357521435.jpg,JL8H3+bgPYoPzIq+AA9kKg==,,,1510401533 148984012,148987188,2017-11-11 11:59:29,">>148987013 and capitalism doesn't push degeneracy?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401569 148984012,148987196,2017-11-11 11:59:34,">>148984012 As flawed as national socialism is, it is objectively more a e s t h e t i c than libertarianism/anarcho capitalism. We need to put more effort into our a e s t h e t i c s beyond the snek memes we have at the moment.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510401574 148984012,148987291,2017-11-11 12:00:25,">>148986318 >this. thats why we have the basic consense of a republik that frames the market. and we also won't let anyone die of hunger, look up rhenian capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510401625 148984012,148987316,2017-11-11 12:00:36,">>148987188 Only when degenerates like you are already willing to buy it. Take responsibility for yourself kike.",,Anonymous,1510357682836.jpg,9fn6aXgatjHReXD5bWGG9g==,,,1510401636 148984012,148987326,2017-11-11 12:00:45,"enjoy your open borders, ancucks >but Hoppe says that the guys that own the infrastructure necessary for immigration to occur will magically do whatever I want them to... good luck with that",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401645 148984012,148987389,2017-11-11 12:01:20,">>148987316 >implying i buy useless trash",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401680 148984012,148987397,2017-11-11 12:01:27,">>148987196 What's flawed about it?",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510401687 148984012,148987560,2017-11-11 12:03:06,">>148987316 Grow up and clean your room",,Anonymous,1482009539460.jpg,JU/y7fkG1m+pgYyfIJYZkw==,CA,,1510401786 148984012,148987575,2017-11-11 12:03:20,">>148987188 nope it sells you what you like. you are the one who chooses to buy it. and your decisions as a consumer are way more influental than a vote. true capitalism actually means the demos decides what should be produced. Physician, heal thyself!",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510401800 148984012,148987592,2017-11-11 12:03:29,">>148986975 Yes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510401809 148984012,148987636,2017-11-11 12:03:52,">>148987397 Reliance on a state. Ancap > Libertarianism > monarchism/fascism > democracy >>> social democracy > communism/socialism",,Anonymous,,,,,1510401832 148984012,148987718,2017-11-11 12:04:40,We are winning because we are many.,,Anonymous,,,,,1510401880 148984012,148987740,2017-11-11 12:04:53,">>148984969 >ancaps >Intelligent Please, stop with these foul lies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510401893 148984012,148987785,2017-11-11 12:05:24,">>148987560 the difference betweens caps and an-caps. you need a republik. as least until humanity grew a bit more reason.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510401924 148984012,148987914,2017-11-11 12:06:27,">>148987718 PHYSICAL REMOVAL",,Anonymous,1510357011895.png,jtY3OMkpoQEo6aEMxpBFbw==,,,1510401987 148984012,148987976,2017-11-11 12:07:07,">>148986318 That's so demonstrably untrue.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510402027 148984012,148988124,2017-11-11 12:08:35,">>148987976 Then demonstrate.",,Anonymous,1507251344848s.jpg,1uw8sZH63IrcEsMmbG5ULA==,US,,1510402115 148984012,148988181,2017-11-11 12:09:10,>>148987718,,Anonymous,1502834583694.jpg,k/ZH8DpPwuqxtERpSHGECg==,DE,,1510402150 148984012,148988242,2017-11-11 12:09:45,">>148988124 The machinery of freedom. Google it.",,Anonymous,1510357128259.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,,,1510402185 148984012,148988343,2017-11-11 12:10:30,">>148984012 ancaps are all angsty teenagers",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510402230 148984012,148988419,2017-11-11 12:11:14,">>148987291 >and we also won't let anyone die of hunger You can't do that WITHOUT violently extorting other people? Food is ridiculously cheap and abundant (in spite of the fact that government makes food production more expensive) such that a tiny fraction of the population would need to chip in in the low hundreds of dollars AT MOST to cover ten times the number of people that there actually are in your country who are so impoverished that they struggle to afford food on top of their other costs of living absent aid.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510402274 148984012,148988573,2017-11-11 12:12:48,">>148988124 Jim and Bob live on an island. Jim makes a fishing pole. Bob makes a spear. Jim trades Bob for his spear. According to you, this is IMPOSSIBLE, when it's blatantly obviously not (which renders your statement untrue).",,Praceteom,,,,,1510402368 148984012,148988622,2017-11-11 12:13:09,Anarchists are the real commies.,,Anonymous,1506835567883.jpg,bn7brevR5BXFT6ZswHXdKg==,,,1510402389 148984012,148988629,2017-11-11 12:13:13,">>148987976 in your ancap fanatsy world it's possible, but people are not reasonable enough. look up for example the backfire effect. you need a minimalistic state, a basic consens on a constitution thats frames the market and offers at least people who failed in the market some food, a dry place to stay and insolvency so they don't become failed human beeings but can have a second chance to be a part of society.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510402393 148984012,148988729,2017-11-11 12:14:10,">>148984012 why does your picture not have ""warlords, slavery and mass death"" on the ancap side? you really think that ancap would result in freedom and peace and prosperity for all - that it would not end in blood and slavery, like it always has before? you are as bad as the socialists who say this time it will be different and perfect.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1510402450 148984012,148988774,2017-11-11 12:14:30,">>148988242 >Google it.",,Anonymous,1510363712318.png,FaCeYm3mUmbl+6WV9d1UDg==,US,,1510402470 148984012,148988781,2017-11-11 12:14:33,">>148988629 >in your ancap fanatsy world it's possible It's possible for anyone.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510402473 148984012,148988788,2017-11-11 12:14:34,">>148988419 we can, thats why i posted this >>148988629",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510402474 148984012,148989068,2017-11-11 12:16:59,">>148988629 >a basic consens on a constitution No - at MOST you need a loose consensus that violent activity is not in a person's self interest to engage in. Which *already exists*.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510402619 148984012,148989110,2017-11-11 12:17:19,">>148988781 i'll say it again, only in yourt ancap fantasy world where all human bveeings are 100% reasonable and act in their own interest. thats a rediculous assumption though.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510402639 148984012,148989607,2017-11-11 12:21:27,">>148988629 > people who failed in the market useless trash needs to fails so theres less of it around.",,Anonymous,1508885084741.jpg,niXRBh7czPXHfUTUXyRVUw==,,,1510402887 148984012,148989658,2017-11-11 12:21:53,">>148989110 >where all human bveeings are 100% reasonable and act in their own interest This assumption ISN'T MADE. Anarchism is not utopian in the slightest - it's not even PRESCRIPTIVE. It's an advocacy against VIOLENT SUBJUGATION and involuntary behavior and THAT'S IT. It does't say ""LELE EVERYONE WILL BE PERFECT WITHOUT GOV-GOV xD"" like you're strawmanning *AT ALL*.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510402913 148984012,148989748,2017-11-11 12:22:42,">>148989068 >loose consensus on what violent activity is wake up, see the world we live in, rethink. i agree to your ideas but i am certain it is a ernormously long way to a society that COULD work like this. how do you want to get there? we can only start at one place. we can go *snap* and the entire world is ancap then. individual republiks can embrace for ecnomic freedom and work towards and an-cap world and set an example, maybe other countries will follow. but the transformation you would need to make the whole world ancap is not possible under a fucking faschist authoritarian state.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510402962 148984012,148989888,2017-11-11 12:23:57,">>148989748 >wake up, see the world we live in You mean the most peaceful and affluent the world has EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND???? THAT world kraut?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510403037 148984012,148989900,2017-11-11 12:24:04,">>148989607 thats where you don't agree with rhenian capitalism. we think no human is trash and people deserve a second chance. to a smaller extend america has that too, it's called private insolvency.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510403044 148984012,148989902,2017-11-11 12:24:06,">>148989658 so how does the ancap system exist for more than ten minutes when a storng man appears adn says bend over you bitches i am in control? end of liberty by force. unless you have a state to help you out (or quasi state - which is the same thing)",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1510403046 148984012,148989979,2017-11-11 12:24:53,">>148984012 How is your little an-cap society going to work when the US resembles Brazil and Europe resembles North Africa? Do you think the coming black/brown majority in America are going to vote to give up their gibs which they rely on to survive? Do you think the coming muslim majority in Europe will want Sharia or Libertarianism? I have never met an an-cap who was NOT on the autism spectrum and I think thats why they cant' recognize simple realities like race, gender, culture, and community. You have to be on the spectrum to think human existence is just and solely about the ""individual"".",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510403093 148984012,148989993,2017-11-11 12:25:02,"All non-libertarians are, by definition, threats to liberty, and must be physically removed from any society whose aims are peace and prosperity. Hail Hoppe!",,Anonymous,NAP Compass.png,TuQypLCZZ+xG/FTff/+4GA==,,,1510403102 148984012,148990095,2017-11-11 12:25:53,">>148984012 Socialism only works in an Aryan nation.",,Anonymous,,,NO,,1510403153 148984012,148990105,2017-11-11 12:25:55,did everyone make it out of the btc drop yesterday alright?,,Anonymous,,,,,1510403155 148984012,148990155,2017-11-11 12:26:22,">>148988573 So it works on a small scale? Just like Communism does? So what is right? Communism or Anarcho-capitalism?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510403182 148984012,148990172,2017-11-11 12:26:32,">>148989902 >so how does the ancap system exist for more than ten minutes How does anything do anything? Governments subjugate through violence. If people try to subjugate others violence is probably what people will use in defense. Who is more forceful or violent is just a matter of numbers strategy and technology. What kind of point even is that? It's a non-point - nobody disputes violence is fucking violence.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510403192 148984012,148990319,2017-11-11 12:27:54,">>148990155 >So it works on a small scale? Jim Bob and Joe. Jim Bob and Joe*2. Jim Bob and Joe*1021874812. You give me a number where it magically becomes impossible for people to not violently try to subjugate others and we'll talk.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510403274 148984012,148990355,2017-11-11 12:28:10,,,Anonymous,1510294946933.png,VJnbSFZsJanx+JomRunGDg==,,,1510403290 148984012,148990440,2017-11-11 12:28:59,">>148989658 living in a minimalist republik is not violent subjugation and its duties could be financed with >2% flat-tax.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510403339 148984012,148990454,2017-11-11 12:29:07,,,Anonymous,1510245905182.png,yCrCv2MklfdN0COVo+cXQA==,,,1510403347 148984012,148990525,2017-11-11 12:29:49,">>148990319 >Jim then decides to murder bob for his fishing pole nobody cares >10 jims decide to conquers bobs lands >they get conquered You ancaps are honestly so retarded",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510403389 148984012,148990543,2017-11-11 12:29:58,">>148990155 Communism doesn't even work on a small scale though. Unless barely surviving counts as a functioning system.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510403398 148984012,148990590,2017-11-11 12:30:20,">>148990440 >iving in a minimalist republik is not violent subjugation Yes it is. You must do what the state goons tell you to do or they will threaten you with violence. You live in a place where the government will *seize your children* for homeschooling them kraut.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510403420 148984012,148990631,2017-11-11 12:30:37,">>148990543 >small tribes sharing food",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510403437 148984012,148990731,2017-11-11 12:31:29,,,Anonymous,1510332781916.png,Uvjx9UjzJD1sbUeJEkjGkQ==,,,1510403489 148984012,148990775,2017-11-11 12:31:54,">>148990525 Or Jim doesn't. At what point does Jim NECESSARILY do that cunt? How many people must exist in an arbitrary proximity to Jim such that his free will is stripped from him and he can do nothing BUT try to fuck with other people, huh? You dipshits can't reason for shit. Can't even entertain a simple thought experiment - no wonder you're a loser.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510403514 148984012,148990783,2017-11-11 12:31:56,">>148990631 Tribes would fall into the ""barely surviving"" part.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510403516 148984012,148990934,2017-11-11 12:33:01,">>148990783 >small communities working together and sharing food",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510403581 148984012,148990998,2017-11-11 12:33:34,">>148989979 You an-cap cowards always ignore this question so I will ask it again. Realistically, how do you think your an-cap society is going to work when the US resembles Brazil and Europe resembles North Africa? Answer this question realistically you intellectual cowards.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510403614 148984012,148991167,2017-11-11 12:34:55,">>148990775 Are you completly fucking retarded? Are you honestly suggesting that when there are millions and of people none of them are going to violate one anothers ""rights"". You're a complete moron who thinks he understands humans nature as egoist but then completely ignores the consequences of egoism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510403695 148984012,148991372,2017-11-11 12:36:50,">>148991167 I'm asking you at what number it's not possible for people to behave peacefully. We've established 2 is fine. Probably three. Couple hundred. Couple thousand. What number is logically impossible dipshit? 9,232,115,097? Why that number? You're honestly retarded.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510403810 148984012,148991391,2017-11-11 12:37:00,,,Anonymous,mcdonaldsdeathsquads.jpg,PO1DiRPva1VPWCJoE6ySFw==,US,,1510403820 148984012,148992311,2017-11-11 12:45:32,">>148990590 we're not talking about the current state in germany. a minimalistic republik would have an education system you may use if you like. and who are the goons that tell you what to do? you mean the police that come when you break the law?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510404332 148984012,148992412,2017-11-11 12:46:33,">>148991372 Once it goes beyond a level of personal interaction. Once people stop knowing each other and forming friendships. I mean you care about you're family and close friends right? What about the guy who's lives 10 blocks down the road? Once it reaches an impersonal level that is when crime and violation of ones ""rights"" takes place.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510404393 148984012,148992533,2017-11-11 12:47:29,">>148991391 In real Ancapistan McDonald's would have it's own police and wouldn't need to authorize the commie ones to do anything.",,Anonymous,1489869210760.jpg,9HUo5uU79Lp0TmN/R2v6UQ==,,,1510404449 148984012,148992564,2017-11-11 12:47:51,">>148992311 >you mean the police that come when you break the law? I have no idea what you're referencing when you say ""minimalistic republic"", but if people are voting for people to make rules about how OTHER people are gonna live OR ELSE you have a system in which people are going to be subjugating others. Have you read Bastiat's ""The Law""? It's a very short essay - would take you 20 minutes to read. You ought to read it.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510404471 148984012,148992657,2017-11-11 12:48:46,">>148992412 >Once it goes beyond a level of personal interaction If you're not personally interacting with someone you can't be violent toward them - they're not there for you to interact with.",,Praceteom,1471111668001.png,ezWbj/odu0WBx6e/BHj7WQ==,,,1510404526 148984012,148992816,2017-11-11 12:50:19,,,Anonymous,ancap fire department.jpg,JDXvOhRXSCFZ2/tOTeXJ9w==,US,,1510404619 148984012,148992820,2017-11-11 12:50:22,">>148992412 If there were no laws tomorrow, would you feel the urge to steal from the people that lived down the road from you just because somebody besides ""police"" would stop you? No? Then fuck off.",,Anonymous,1543357682832.jpg,wdRUu2YR638kfghE1QtsCw==,,,1510404622 148984012,148992842,2017-11-11 12:50:37,">>148992657 Are you seriously this retarded? Personal as in you have a relationship and you care for, not some service station owner you decided to rob.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510404637 148984012,148992958,2017-11-11 12:51:48,">>148992820 Fuck wrong meme lol",,Anonymous,1510323826559.jpg,KgKDqiOGGJxsIQCfIuIrog==,,,1510404708 148984012,148993065,2017-11-11 12:52:44,">>148992820 lol do you have any idea the amount of people who would start to steal and rape when the laws went away? Those new pairs of shoes you never took because you might get in trouble, you can take them now. That super hot chick you see walking past a bus stop late at night? You can finally have your way with her now.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510404764 148984012,148993171,2017-11-11 12:53:51,">>148992842 So you don't know a guy who lives x units of distance away from your residence. You meet him. Is violence a *necessary consequence* of your meeting? If it's not, we're back to you failing to tell me when violence MUST OCCUR. Logically MUST. Because otherwise, people's activities are NOT destined as a matter of fact to be violent - it's just conjecture on your part and not a foregone conclusion.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510404831 148984012,148993341,2017-11-11 12:55:40,">>148993065 I've never wanted to steal shoes or rape anyone. If you wanna be a degenerate fuck that's on you, but you'll still get fucked up for violating people's rights by private police.",,Anonymous,1510357170898.jpg,AbTzYlc0IXp2YwwPXR11Rg==,,,1510404940 148984012,148993395,2017-11-11 12:56:10,">>148984012 There is so much D&C here. 4chan Nazis are our allies and at the very least useful idiots.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510404970 148984012,148993505,2017-11-11 12:57:16,">>148993171 Okay let me explain to you how relationships work, because (like most ancaps) you're very sheltered. Most people don't do harm or wrong to people they have relationship. Once that personal relationship goes away you are just another person. >You meet him. Is violence a *necessary consequence* of your meeting? God, how fucking stupid are you? There are violent people out there, who if they could would you murder you for a hundreds bucks. The only thing discouraging them from that is the threat of punishment from a highly organize and advanced entity.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510405036 148984012,148993553,2017-11-11 12:57:42,">>148993395 No socialist is an ally of mine. Socialism doesn't suddenly become good for me just because it's only for White people.",,Anonymous,1510356214775.png,d8TsWi4b3x4iOaJNrkGgrw==,,,1510405062 148984012,148993564,2017-11-11 12:57:50,">>148990775 your use of the term ""necessarily"" is inapplicable. It is not a matter of necessity. It is a simple matter of human nature. it is not associated with one number - it could be that with two people one of them is not a pussy and dominated the pussy ancap. it cud be that there are a million pussies and then one man comes along and subjugates them. there is no single number to point at. asking for one is retarded. saying it is possible that everyone will be a pussy and peaceful is not wrong of necessity, bu the chances are infinitesimal as the number of human beings grow, because we clearly are not all pussies.",,Anonymous,,,FR,,1510405070 148984012,148993783,2017-11-11 12:59:56,">>148993505 >we're back to you failing to tell me when violence MUST OCCUR. Logically MUST >I'm asking you at what number it's not possible for people to behave peacefully. We've established 2 is fine. Probably three. Couple hundred. Couple thousand. What number is logically impossible dipshit? 9,232,115,097? Why that number? You're honestly retarded",,Praceteom,,,,,1510405196 148984012,148993833,2017-11-11 13:00:23,">>148992564 minimalistic republik means as much as state as necessary, as much freedom as possible. that will differ from nation to nation. and from decade to decade. idealy it would get rid of itself within a century or so.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510405223 148984012,148993835,2017-11-11 13:00:23,">>148993341 >i never wanted to do it so nobody else must want to either FUCK its like banging your head against a brick wall with you >you'll still get fucked up for violating people's rights by private police. private police who have no restrictions once somebody has violated there nap. You can murder somebody for an flicking a cigarette on your property. Not to mention the idea of private police is so easily exploitable. >wealthy capitalist >decides to buy thousands of ""private police"" workers >basically has his own army now >they have to follow his laws if they want to keep their job >he starts claiming territory >new state emerges",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510405223 148984012,148993869,2017-11-11 13:00:41,">>148993505 >The only thing stopping them is muh goberment No it isn't have you ever seen a gun show get shot up? No you haven't because it's all gun free zones like malls. Take some responsibility for yourself and carry a fucking firearm. Nobody will fuck with you then.",,Anonymous,1510321207887.jpg,jurnZpnRfBDfwzyJKxozIA==,,,1510405241 148984012,148993893,2017-11-11 13:00:53,">>148993564 >human nature Name one interesting characteristic that is universal to all humans. Something cannot be a nature of a thing if it is not characteristic of all such of those things.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510405253 148984012,148993958,2017-11-11 13:01:40,">>148993833 >minimalistic republik means as much as state as necessary What things can a state agent do that no one else is capable of doing?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510405300 148984012,148994200,2017-11-11 13:03:51,">>148993553 Then throw them at the commies and destroy our mutual enemy. If some private state wants to start socialism afterwards and fail then let them make mistakes and learn. Btw, your shilling is obvious.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510405431 148984012,148994202,2017-11-11 13:03:52,">>148993783 >le everybody will just do the right thing This is the same line of thought of the end goal of communism, everybody just is nice to each other and shares. >I'm asking you at what number it's not possible for people to behave peacefully. We've established 2 is fine. Probably three. Couple hundred. Couple thousand. What number is logically impossible dipshit? 9,232,115,097? Why that number? You're honestly retarded I already told you you complete fucking retard, at what ever level you start to lack personal relationships. The less personal relationships get the more crime increase, there is not set number, it just becomes more commonplace the more people begin to drift away. Look at any small town, very little crime, look at any large city, much larger amounts of crime. How fucking hard is this to understand?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510405432 148984012,148994235,2017-11-11 13:04:08,">>148984012 Can you stop making this shitty and divisive thread? We're all friends here (for the present). Don't try to disrupt the truce. /lrg/ actually has some effort put into it.",,Anonymous,1491742923396.png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,,,1510405448 148984012,148994283,2017-11-11 13:04:33,">>148993869 >LE ME AND MA RIFLE CAN DO ANYTHING I CAN KILL 10 GANG MEMBERS CUZ MUH FREEDOMZ",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510405473 148984012,148994428,2017-11-11 13:05:53,">>148994235 >DON'T PUNCH RIGHT XDDDDD SHILL Nazis are as big a threat to my freedom as commies plz and thx",,Anonymous,1510356563287.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1510405553 148984012,148994507,2017-11-11 13:06:40,">>148994235 All forms of anarchist can go to hell, 1776 libertarians are the only ones worth respecting.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510405600 148984012,148994587,2017-11-11 13:07:30,">>148993958 not a state agent, a assembly of the people. the assembly of the people can create a consitution the majority of the people agree on. and thats the constitution of your republik.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510405650 148984012,148994596,2017-11-11 13:07:37,">>148994202 >I am an aussie >I literally cannot comprehend questions >at what ever level you start to lack personal relationships Jim and Bob don't know each other - a lack of personal relationship now exists between Jim and Bob. Unfortunately, you've now contradicted yourself, as we've already established Jim and Bob can be peaceful with one another despite a lack of relationships, meaning >at what ever level you start to lack personal relationships is a non-answer and fails to meet the demand for a point wherein violence is INEVITABLE.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510405657 148984012,148994633,2017-11-11 13:07:57,">>148994507 1776 Libertairanism is outdated.",,Anonymous,1510356290393.jpg,NP7tO2CspUoI1I5WyHle5Q==,,,1510405677 148984012,148994690,2017-11-11 13:08:29,">>148994633 >ancap final redpill ancap is a living meme",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510405709 148984012,148994691,2017-11-11 13:08:29,">>148994428 >The most known ancap is Chris Cantwell >Who takes nudes and shoves meth up his ass TOP KEK",,Anonymous,bvahahahahaha.jpg,kINlsLNo1L6LcQXR+aBJiA==,,,1510405709 148984012,148994737,2017-11-11 13:08:55,">>148994587 >not a state agent, a assembly of the people What can your ""assembly of people"" do that no other number of people can do?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510405735 148984012,148994807,2017-11-11 13:09:37,">>148994737 give itsself a constitution. kek.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510405777 148984012,148994808,2017-11-11 13:09:38,">>148994428 Fuck off. Natsocs can become perfectly alright neighbors as long as they're non-aggressive. Besides, most ""Natsocs"" here are actually just paleocons who subscribe to race realism. I'm curious. What's your opinion of Hitler?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510405778 148984012,148994866,2017-11-11 13:10:21,,,Anonymous,Ancom 6.png,VP/zIHtnQQIHgTi//5bp0g==,,,1510405821 148984012,148995029,2017-11-11 13:12:12,">>148985783 i'm this sorta guy, but i bring a well-hidden chef's knife just in case if they're bot lookin for trouble, neither am i",,Anonymous,,,,,1510405932 148984012,148995046,2017-11-11 13:12:25,">>148994807 What does a constitution DO that people can't do without a constitution? You're making the argument that >>148993833 >as much as state as necessary so you need to be able to say what cannot possibly be done without your arrangement (otherwise it wouldn't be necessary).",,Praceteom,,,,,1510405945 148984012,148995143,2017-11-11 13:13:21,">>148985054 >Think he knows anything about Poland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l510Hq8w2VY",,Anonymous,FUCK JEWMERICA.png,TbMbd5Jt6VomA2Obf3CoIg==,,,1510406001 148984012,148995235,2017-11-11 13:14:15,">>148994596 lol I've answered your question a million fucking times, you never responds to it except with repeating yourself again. I mean how do you not fucking understand smaller populations have less crime while larger ones have more crime? You are an utter imbecile. Jim and Bob are two hypothetically guys that you made up. Jim and Bob are also hypothetically the only two guys in this ""world"". They likely would know each other personally and even if they don't they are ONLY 2 of them, they literally need each other to survive and would form a bond. >at what ever level you start to lack personal relationships I've answered your question 10 fucking times, violence is never fucking inevitable thats the entire failure of anarchism. And the higher the population gets the more impossible anarchism gets. I'll make it real fucking simple for you Less people = less crime More people = more crime",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510406055 148984012,148995415,2017-11-11 13:15:56,">>148984012 >le ebin d&c polyps will never realize its us commies filling their catalog with shit yet again Go back to cuckpol",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406156 148984012,148995432,2017-11-11 13:16:08,">>148995235 JESUS CHRIST. I HATE LAYMEN, AND I HATE AUSSIES. LITERALLY NOT CAPABLE OF THOUGHT EXPERIMENTS. JA NE YOU ILLITERATE LOW-IQ AUTISTIC DIPSHIT~!",,Praceteom,,,,,1510406168 148984012,148995451,2017-11-11 13:16:20,">>148994808 Hitler was a fucking loser who sucked at two world wars and painting and having an aesthetic mustache. Also: >>148992958",,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510406180 148984012,148995466,2017-11-11 13:16:26,">>148995046 one single thing: equal law and equality before the law in the entire nation.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510406186 148984012,148995519,2017-11-11 13:17:01,">>148995235 >Less people = less crime >More people = more crime You're so wrong it's not even funny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault_tolerance",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406221 148984012,148995559,2017-11-11 13:17:16,>>148995451,,Anonymous,1b11cd2e3845402ff2aa4b0d88f218b8e6f487833696045473fbb9327f524648.jpg,qB9erDui+peojUjVy7vscg==,,,1510406236 148984012,148995649,2017-11-11 13:18:14,">>148995466 No constitution has everybody as equal before the law, and neither would a free market. Google ""The Machinery of Freedom.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406294 148984012,148995650,2017-11-11 13:18:14,">>148995432 You realized you've completely embarrassed yourself in front of all your an-cap buddies. There is a reason why the rest of them stopped replying because they lost the argument. You on the other hard seem to be either to stupid to understand basic logic and facts or are stubborn fool.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510406294 148984012,148995688,2017-11-11 13:18:39,">>148995466 You can have that without anything written on paper at all. Natural law theory.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510406319 148984012,148995763,2017-11-11 13:19:26,"Ancapism is babby-tier ""philosophy"". We'll be waiting patiently for you to grow up.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510406366 148984012,148995796,2017-11-11 13:19:45,">>148995650 Personally I stopped replying because you can't be reasoned with and keep screeching in circles but k.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406385 148984012,148995882,2017-11-11 13:20:36,">>148995451 Leave /pol/ and never return, at least until you study history. You can start with Pat Buchanan's book. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/03/murray-n-rothbard/origins-2nd-world-war/",,Anonymous,rothbard.png,Slvg8cK8i7GW2tSPMlIh0Q==,,,1510406436 148984012,148995888,2017-11-11 13:20:40,">>148995763 And what's your big boy philosophy you NEET?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406440 148984012,148995892,2017-11-11 13:20:42,">>148995519 >personal relationships don't stop crime >impersonal relationships don't encourage crime >small towns don't have less crime >large cities don't have more crime >>148995796 >screeched I completely ruined your argument and that's why you stopped replying.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510406442 148984012,148995911,2017-11-11 13:20:56,>>148988181,,Anonymous,Russian White Army.jpg,uDlsheUD6mRoGVOwDmgeew==,US,,1510406456 148984012,148996085,2017-11-11 13:22:23,>>148984594,,Anonymous,jewish libertarians.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,US,,1510406543 148984012,148996091,2017-11-11 13:22:26,">>148995892 You never even addressed my argument you just made unrelated shit up.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406546 148984012,148996115,2017-11-11 13:22:37,">>148995649 every adult should be equal before the law. don't you agree? >>148995688 no you actualy need a constitution, it is the basis on which legislature can be implemented. i know natural law theory, thats why there won't be positive law in idea of a minimalist republik.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510406557 148984012,148996135,2017-11-11 13:22:50,">>148995888 >ancaps calling other people neets The only way you can be an ancap is either being rich, mummy taking care of you or neetbux. Once you realize what it's like to suffer and not have money you'll suddenly realize total law of the jungle isn't so great.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510406570 148984012,148996159,2017-11-11 13:23:04,">>148984012 Any ""National-Capitalist"" is a civic nationalist at best. Rich Capitalists are the ones that push for illegal and cheap workers and don't give a shit about the white race. Socialism only works with Nationalism. (Not Marxism Socialism, that is a failure by it's own) Capitalism naturally leads to Globalism.",,Anonymous,behindthepost.jpg,S1B93icdyf8ZX+XBq0GW+A==,US,,1510406584 148984012,148996249,2017-11-11 13:23:47,">>148995892 Let's just be clear that we're talking about per capita crime. Systems with higher numbers of independent parts are often more fault tolerant, especially in this case.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406627 148984012,148996294,2017-11-11 13:24:14,">>148996091 You're argument was that you and your rifle are the equivalent of an entire police force. All you do by removing a police force is increase the incentive to kill you so you can't see revenge.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510406654 148984012,148996384,2017-11-11 13:25:12,"You cant be an ancap and a racist or anti semite. Ian friedman on free talk live said so. Modern """"""ancapism"""""" is just more libertarian nazism.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510406712 148984012,148996419,2017-11-11 13:25:34,">>148996115 >no you actualy need a constitution No, you actually don't. Words on paper don't make people behave according to them - what's important is only that people hold to some set of principles which a constitution does not necessarily (and we're talking about necessity, if you'll recall) to instill.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510406734 148984012,148996420,2017-11-11 13:25:33,">>148995911 if churchill and rothschilds really supported them they wouldn't have lost",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510406733 148984012,148996428,2017-11-11 13:25:37,">>148996249 Lets say you are a criminal. Are you going to rob your mumma and best friend? Or are you going to rob a guy you've never met before?",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510406737 148984012,148996558,2017-11-11 13:26:47,">>148984012 Reminder once China invades, your lack of cohesion will cause the country to instantly collapse. (((ancap)))",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510406807 148984012,148996743,2017-11-11 13:28:42,">>148996419 you still need to phrase the natural law once though. writing them down does not make them alienatable, it just sets the legal frame for a nation to exist. on basis of the consitution that is natural law written down and an acknowledgement that it is unalienatable.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510406922 148984012,148996749,2017-11-11 13:28:44,">>148996115 No I don't agree, because not every adult is equal period. >>148996135 I work 45 hours a week on minimum wage I'm just not an entitled shit. >>148996294 Me and my rifle are way better than a police force because my rifle doesn't take five minutes to get here and find me already dead. >>148996558 I would welcome my new Chinese overlords.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510406924 148984012,148996907,2017-11-11 13:30:11,">>148996558 this is why you need this >>148993833 >>148996115 >>148996743",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510407011 148984012,148997007,2017-11-11 13:30:59,">>148996558 Who would ever cooperate without a state to force them to do so?",,Anonymous,21317876_294169614323676_4264033794747158915_n.png,ku2lFybPn5Ne1W7iqgYxIQ==,,,1510407059 148984012,148997019,2017-11-11 13:31:08,">>148996743 >you still need to phrase the natural law once though It doesn't need to be a constitution to do this. It doesn't even have to be written - it can be oral. So a constitution isn't necessary - so what aspect of a state IS necessary?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510407068 148984012,148997076,2017-11-11 13:31:43,">>148996428 You're not wrong. You're just flat out ignoring economies of scale in law enforcement, which is all I'm saying. Now maybe if you have shitty publicly provided police in a Democrat city like Chicago, maybe then you'd want to move out. Absolutely.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510407103 148984012,148997140,2017-11-11 13:32:24,">>148996749 wow to hear that from an ancap. of course we are all individuals, but we should all be equal before the law. if you can't agree to this delete this thread an go kys. you won't be able to coexist with your fellow human beeings if you think some people can have more or less rights than others.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510407144 148984012,148997245,2017-11-11 13:33:19,">>148996907 Pic related is a meme stop giving a ""small"" government power and expecting it to not become huge and authoritarian later.",,Anonymous,1510323983089.png,YSaVOhDqQADuzvONJpIpUA==,,,1510407199 148984012,148997370,2017-11-11 13:34:28,"In ancap society: whores, degenerates, jews, drugs, prostitution, single moms, commie aggitators, niggers, racemixing, no roads In nazi society: nuclear family, big ranch, big truck and big families, guns, no degenerates, no commies, low income tax, forced labor for the unemployed, space exploration, wholesomness, big military parades",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510407268 148984012,148997390,2017-11-11 13:34:43,">>148997140 If people's rights aren't based on merit then there is no incentive to work.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510407283 148984012,148997400,2017-11-11 13:34:49,">>148997019 yeah good luck reciting the speech in every court case dude you're so far from reality. >so what aspect of a state IS necessary? you must be russian shill. no joke. think about that again. think about the roman empire. you're nuts. you're taking freedom ad absurdum.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510407289 148984012,148997470,2017-11-11 13:35:33,">>148997390 you only need to base them on merit when you make positive law.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510407333 148984012,148997606,2017-11-11 13:37:06,">>148996749 >I work 45 hours a week on minimum wage I'm just not an entitled shit. You can say that now, but being a person who was homeless for 6 months and now have a fairly good IT job I can say if i had just a tiny bit of support from the government I'd be in a lot better position. You think that you will never hit hard times and need help. Welfare is a fantastic to solution if implemented properly. I.e. you can't be on it for more then a certain amount of time, you have to have a had a job in the past or be a young person job seeking etc. All you do by denying somebody welfare who is a regular worker is increasing the changes they never work again and remain homeless. >Me and my rifle are way better than a police force because my rifle doesn't take five minutes to get here and find me already dead. This is such a retarded meme. Ever heard of crime and punishment? Yeah well a police force of intelligence agency as a lot better hope of tracking down an criminal and punishing him then you. Theres a reason mafias rip each other off so much because they don't have to worry about them going to the police. The threat of punishment is enough to discourage most would be criminals.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510407426 148984012,148997657,2017-11-11 13:37:36,">>148997400 You literally just gave up the argument about necessity and flailed. Ite - ""good"" try kraut.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510407456 148984012,148997805,2017-11-11 13:38:53,It's Caturday!!,,Anonymous,1119151215_0001.jpg,6TxxHINkLSDMEl4JtpNa3w==,,,1510407533 148984012,148997832,2017-11-11 13:39:11,">>148997076 What are you talking about? This is just simple logic. The smaller scale a society is the more personal relationships form and the less crime is committed. The higher the scale of a society the more less personal relationships are and the more crime that is committed. How can you fucking deny this? Per capita small towns (in the west) always have less crime then cities.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510407551 148984012,148997873,2017-11-11 13:39:32,">>148997390 That's just stupid. Have you even read Economics And Ethics Of Private Property?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510407572 148984012,148997984,2017-11-11 13:40:31,">>148997657 i didn't give up, imagine the roman empire without equal law that aplied everywhere.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510407631 148984012,148998000,2017-11-11 13:40:41,"Cantwell said recently on his jail show that hell be switching into phase three onbhis show. He exolained his phase 1 was his some garbage podcast, phase two was race realism. What is phase 3. Nationalsocialism? He seemed awfully impressed by mein kampf. Has yet another ancap realized the folly of 0 government larping?",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1510407641 148984012,148998128,2017-11-11 13:41:50,">>148997606 If I need welfare I'll get it from a private charity.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510407710 148984012,148998442,2017-11-11 13:45:06,">>148987013 Soros is a capitalist. So are the Jews who own our media stations that pump out disgusting propaganda. I'm glad the younger generations are getting away from defending the kike capitalists. They can see how capitalists like zuckerbergs shut down what he considers wrongthink. Even helping the German government lock whites up in jail for speaking out against the capitalists imported workers. Capitalists are the ones who have opened the borders and fucked up society. They maximaize degeneracy to make some more shekels and will sell your people out to make a quick buck. Globalism is capitalism",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510407906 148984012,148998497,2017-11-11 13:45:42,">>148998128 lol are you kidding? Charities are in complete contradiction with ancap thought as they lack incentive for the people involved. That is at least, what you perceive charities to be. But in reality charities don't give out free welfare, ever heard of the Red Cross, biggest charity organization in Australia, they petray themselves as giving accomdation for free, when in reality they charge in excess of 170+ for a shared room with 5 other men. I would know, I've been to them. In reality charities follow exactly what you ancaps declare is human nature. The only problem is if everybody followed the ideology and egoism, we wouldn't have a society.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510407942 148984012,148998502,2017-11-11 13:45:46,">>148997984 It didn't have equal law applied everywhere - it had selectively applied law by enforcers who dished out violence and punishment at their own personal discretion. Which is exactly how government works right now and has always operated - by a ruling class which decides at its own discretion when and who to fuck with and when and who will get free passes because they're completely and utterly cost insensitive and have no incentive to act otherwise. Please read Bastiat's ""The Law"" - it's less than 70 pages.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510407946 148984012,148998592,2017-11-11 13:46:32,">>148992958 >christian psyops division still active",,Anonymous,,,,,1510407992 148984012,148998730,2017-11-11 13:47:53,">>148998497 All of the biggest welfare organizations aren't even businesses you moron they're churches.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510408073 148984012,148998762,2017-11-11 13:48:14,Fuckin lel'd,,Anonymous,ospg13zrp2wz.jpg,qDqLJccNTHGLw6Jim2Eiqg==,US,,1510408094 148984012,148998833,2017-11-11 13:48:54,">>148998502 thanks, can you now see why we need a constitution that phrases out natural law as basis for legislation and acknowledges it as unalianable?",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510408134 148984012,148998874,2017-11-11 13:49:20,>>148998762,,Anonymous,d84xwqpfmdwz.jpg,uiWollId7K5jrkskYQquWw==,US,,1510408160 148984012,148999113,2017-11-11 13:51:38,">>148998874 >you can't do what you want becouse we are protecting you >fuck off, we don't have interest in protecting you right now just imagine this feel man....",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510408298 148984012,148999146,2017-11-11 13:52:00,">>148998833 We have that in the *U.S.* - it makes NO difference. They don't CARE what the document says, and they've never cared since John fucking Marshall.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510408320 148984012,148999346,2017-11-11 13:53:40,">>148997832 I don't deny that you're half right, but you're only half right. More important to crime prevention is the possibility of being caught and being punished. With higher populations, it's easier to be caught and therefore it's easier to be punished. You can also have more police-per-person because everyone is closer together.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510408420 148984012,148999401,2017-11-11 13:54:13,">>148998833 https://mises.org/system/tdf/thelaw.pdf?file=1&type=document This short essay explains the problem and why it is ALWAYS a problem no matter what anybody writes in any document.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510408453 148984012,148999450,2017-11-11 13:54:46,">he thinks there will be an ancap revolution >ever",,Anonymous,6CB8F32F14814CF8B18447475DC8B788.png,xlrHMS6q9WNbzsFhBJcfwg==,NL,,1510408486 148984012,148999657,2017-11-11 13:56:42,">>148999146 that's why we would need people like you in the initial assembly of the people to create a constitution. your problem is that positive law is overwriting natural law. in our constution we could declare that a crime against the people. germany is btw one the best nations to do this because we still dont have a constitution, we have Grundgesetzt (basic law) but this GRundgesetzt grants us the right to create an assembly of the german people to give themselves a constitution. sadly our chancelors sign letters that declare to america we won't to this until 2100.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510408602 148984012,148999720,2017-11-11 13:57:22,">>148998874 I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you fuck with me, I’ll kill you all.",,Anonymous,1482249316398.png,5/5Gz16w+CoT/XOA16RL1A==,US,,1510408642 148984012,148999832,2017-11-11 13:58:24,">>148999401 i know it will always be a problem, but men and the world aren't perfect and you have to deal with it. we can't free the world, we need to make humanity grow into freedom.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510408704 148984012,148999882,2017-11-11 13:58:56,">>148998730 >actually thinks churches are welfare organizations other then meal on wheels for oldies they don't do much.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510408736 148984012,149000269,2017-11-11 14:02:00,">>148999346 >More important to crime prevention is the possibility of being caught and being punished. Thats exactly what I've been saying to argue against ancapism >With higher populations, it's easier to be caught and therefore it's easier to be punished. It's only higher to be caught if you have a coordinated effort and hierarchy. You can also have more police-per-person because everyone is closer together. peoples aren't going to do shit to help somebody they don't even know if they aren't gaining from it (wage).",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510408920 148984012,149000496,2017-11-11 14:03:55,,,Anonymous,9a44e74.jpg,kDDyzk4iCFP1C2KqrZRwig==,BR,,1510409035 148984012,149000781,2017-11-11 14:06:23,">>148999450 Ancap is the natural state of humans. U work, u deserve the fruit of your labour.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510409183 148984012,149000816,2017-11-11 14:06:39,"i enjoyed talking to you an-caps but i have to cook now. is think rhenish capitalism might be appealing to you could smell truth in what i spoke.",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510409199 148984012,149000828,2017-11-11 14:06:46,">>148984012 What is the difference between /acg/ and /lrg/ ?",,Anonymous,1509650189355.jpg,oYK/Q7O0mdrosnGBffMv9w==,,,1510409206 148984012,149000950,2017-11-11 14:07:50,">>149000828 /lrg/ has better OC",,Anonymous,1510328464123.jpg,qfGlrQoap+LfmwDmL12rHg==,,,1510409270 148984012,149001065,2017-11-11 14:08:55,">>149000950 God bless",,Anonymous,hoppe7.png,faOKZK+y5x+5GuIHlhFyFw==,,,1510409335 148984012,149001185,2017-11-11 14:10:07,">>149000828 minarchists are considered libertarians too",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510409407 148984012,149001447,2017-11-11 14:12:24,">>149001065 AND REPLACE It WITH FEUDALISM",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510409544 148984012,149002681,2017-11-11 14:24:09,">>149001447 So how do we bring it down?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510410249 148984012,149003218,2017-11-11 14:29:16,">>148995559 The Germans had a bit of a head start and got to build their own empire, and had help from Japan and their empire as well as a bit from Italy and their empire. At first they were only fighting the British Empire, but they made their choices to cheap shot the Soviets and the Americans soon after. In your terms, please stop arguing like a jew.",,Anonymous,1469844313534.png,Y0ci64QOdm2xGVCgsFbTVg==,,,1510410556 148984012,149003237,2017-11-11 14:29:26,">>149002681 Secession, in short. https://youtu.be/d_ybi1MeC3c",,Anonymous,蒸气波.png,mLYGWWZfsssG+yqPejClvw==,,,1510410566 148984012,149003247,2017-11-11 14:29:31,">((capitalism)) No,thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510410571 148984012,149003250,2017-11-11 14:29:33,">>149002681 Fascism. Not fucking anarchism lol.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510410573 148984012,149003286,2017-11-11 14:29:53,bumperooni,,Anonymous,1510086326809.gif,5mN3OoQWqQAidYYap0HF4Q==,,,1510410593 148984012,149003527,2017-11-11 14:32:22,,,Anonymous,..jpg,mdd51Fmezkzhhn2bpZwt8w==,,,1510410742 148984012,149003585,2017-11-11 14:32:56,,,Anonymous,1503484190709.png,Kslojf2xhVN98eGsDVg4lA==,,,1510410776 148984012,149003607,2017-11-11 14:33:13,,,Anonymous,1509480600693.png,Ju0jiL1Z66sMVniB0KY69w==,,,1510410793 148984012,149003652,2017-11-11 14:33:41,,,Anonymous,1501346903344.jpg,q2K/bqPwC9TESO8m4B+VUw==,,,1510410821 148984012,149003712,2017-11-11 14:34:19,"1. What would stop big companies to be states as soon as the state is abolished? 2. How would security work in ancap society?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1510410859 148984012,149003761,2017-11-11 14:34:53,pushing for and operating within free markets til the day i die,,Anonymous,1510093188885.png,bmYzodjA4qgZMgsvIi+7+w==,,,1510410893 148984012,149003889,2017-11-11 14:36:11,">>149003712 >What would stop big companies to be states as soon as the state is abolished? ruling over his own land is the only legitimate form of a state.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510410971 148984012,149003934,2017-11-11 14:36:42,">>149003712 The only possible way ancapism could exist would be for a state to collapse, big businesses replace it with their own little fiefdoms and you have Feudalism 2.0. That's literally the closest you will ever get to Anarcho-Capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510411002 148984012,149003988,2017-11-11 14:37:13,">>149003712 >1. What would stop big companies to be states as soon as the state is abolished? Most companies wouldn't be able to adjust to the massive change and would dissolve, but other than that, the new ones would probably be a little bit like states. >2. How would security work in ancap society? PMCs. Capitalism works, anarchy doesn't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510411033 148984012,149004202,2017-11-11 14:39:16,">>149003712 can't speak for the rest of the thread, but afaik: 1. groups of individuals look out for themselves in the US, we still have common law which serves to prevent people from irradiating or otherwise poisoning your back yard, etc property rights solve for this and seeking redress extrajudicially would be the natural consequence if the government sided with a large corporation to pollute and/or kill you slowly 2. all private security. people pay for it. if they have something they believe is worth defending, then they defend it the most common altercation i could see is if someone tries to break into your house and you shoot them alternatively, it'd be like the guy in texas who ran out of his house barefoot to save as many of those churchgoers' lives as possible i hope that all makes sense",,Anonymous,1510092276727.png,mSXxB+4yLRfko/Y+XW8TiA==,,,1510411156 148984012,149004251,2017-11-11 14:39:45,">>149003988 Capitalism works when it's monitored and censored, otherwise you end up with a nation of degenerates. Any degenerate or damaging products should be banned.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510411185 148984012,149004667,2017-11-11 14:43:55,">>149004202 >in the US, we still have common law which serves to prevent people from irradiating or otherwise poisoning your back yard, etc property rights solve for this But how and who could enforce property rights in a society where there's no authority? There should be an authority to defend property rights and punishment for those who disrespect others' rights. How could it be possible without a state?",,Anonymous,,,TR,,1510411435 148984012,149004693,2017-11-11 14:44:11,">>149003237 You can't openly shill for secession here, it'S agaisnt the (((constitution)) despite the statemedia shilling for the catalan commies. My (((state))) passed law against statecriticism, until now they only arrested some fags who would be considered criminal even before this new law and people clapped like the normies they are, because not paying taxes is bad mkay. I think sooner or later they will ban libertarians too, in the same way natsocs are going to jail here and they arrest only the crazy ones now to get the normies used to the situation so they will still clap when they come for righteous people.",,Anonymous,chin.jpg,7m6plKLdDWnYmofUmVJ9xQ==,,,1510411451 148984012,149004803,2017-11-11 14:45:18,">>149003934 Aren't you in favour of feudalism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510411518 148984012,149005763,2017-11-11 14:54:50,">>148985912 audible kek",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510412090 148984012,149005929,2017-11-11 14:56:23,">>149004803 No, I was mocking Hoppes and anarcho-capitalism how they would replace democracy with Feudalism.",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1510412183 148984012,149006020,2017-11-11 14:57:03,"anarcho capitalism is a good idea but it's just as good as ""true communism"". The reality is, unless the entire world is libertarian then a really strong authoritarian country will just come and take all your land and resources",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510412223 148984012,149006408,2017-11-11 15:00:47,">>148985054 Poland is a catholic nation, they value order, tradition and hierarchy and spit on a degenerate philosphy like libertarianism,",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510412447 148984012,149006593,2017-11-11 15:02:23,">>149006020 >Implying there is no authority without a state In fact the state limits real authority, by giving you a solely materialistic and violent form of it. oh and that's why Liechtenstein and san marino gets invaded so much",,Anonymous,1499642390257.jpg,aFbCr+g8j2IkWmm4YlKPwA==,,,1510412543 148984012,149006697,2017-11-11 15:03:19,>>148984012,,Anonymous,1509388008641.jpg,M+XXBnq+5EjXo/alhs7y4Q==,US,,1510412599 148984012,149006852,2017-11-11 15:04:50,>>148984594,,Anonymous,1509237153091.jpg,Yb0dvJtNfpYEWWK2Qpk+KQ==,US,,1510412690 148984012,149007064,2017-11-11 15:06:55,">>149006852 >socialists destroy country >hehe ancaps it's you perfect society lel",,Anonymous,,,,,1510412815 148984012,149007255,2017-11-11 15:08:44,">>149006697 >a version of Keynesianism",,Anonymous,1344048485776.png,eynbeJ5kv+KxvakaWfzzwg==,,,1510412924 148984012,149007359,2017-11-11 15:09:55,">>149006852 >>149007064 >Niggers >Civilization Pick one",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510412995 148984012,149009555,2017-11-11 15:30:46,">>148994235 neetsocs should be the very next ones to be helicopter'd after commies and social democrats",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1510414246 148984012,149009862,2017-11-11 15:33:39,"why are so many ""ancaps"" actually anarcho monarchist tyrants?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510414419 148984012,149010674,2017-11-11 15:40:47,">>149004667 we still had laws- and specifically, british maritime law ""don't fuck with me, and i won't fuck with you"" ""the guy who fucked with the other one first loses"" it's really that simple individual behavior matters individual values matter and it's not the government's job to instruct people to do good bad people will exist in every society until the end of time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYeYPcougmA enjoy, turkbro",,Anonymous,1510092510142.jpg,7NktsLqrzk7gHc2jqlBhuA==,,,1510414847 148984012,149010883,2017-11-11 15:42:46,">>149006852 i wonder how they would feel about my having a different skin color than theirs",,Anonymous,1503483419344.jpg,hhmERLykEHjWkl05rrYqmA==,,,1510414966 148984012,149010955,2017-11-11 15:43:20,">>149006020 ""the larger the state, the smaller the individual""",,Anonymous,,,,,1510415000 148984012,149012321,2017-11-11 15:55:11,,,Anonymous,arab ancap.png,mhxm6ScRET8Mtm4tAinaJA==,,,1510415711 148984012,149012642,2017-11-11 15:57:48,">>149009862 >why are so many ""ancaps"" actually anarcho monarchist tyrants? Liebertarians just want to bring humanity back to the political stone age. They fail to understand that a society without rules naturally devolves into a society with only one ruler.",,Anonymous,anarchy_to_dictatorship.png,YXnVCIAPE9J7SYAyYAV9DQ==,,,1510415868 148984012,149013065,2017-11-11 16:01:24,">>149012642 how exactly is that a bad thing?",,Anonymous,Emperor_Maximiliano_around_1865.jpg,1AyXtCQWWNPe47aRLpNIDw==,,,1510416084 148984012,149013413,2017-11-11 16:04:29,">>148996085 Ayn Rand was not a libertarian, even though many libertarians(foolishly) are objectivists. Rand scorned libertarians.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510416269 148984012,149013623,2017-11-11 16:06:17,">>149013065 >how exactly is that a bad thing? Suppose the ruler is George Soros and he became the ruler by crashing the economy and starting color revolution. If the ruler is only in it for his own profit, ie the kind of rulers that would come about as a result of the chaos of anarcho-capitalism, it would most assuredly be a bad thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510416377 148984012,149014009,2017-11-11 16:09:41,">>149013623 >Suppose the ruler is George Soros and he became the ruler by crashing the economy and starting color revolution. then people will rise, like all throughout history. states as if we see it today are just a monstrosity and abnormality and only make up a short period of our history. They need to fall as soon as possible to restore natural hierarchies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510416581 148984012,149014507,2017-11-11 16:13:57,">>149012642 wtf, man? The idea that you have of libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism is so childish. It's what I though when I first knew it existed. Anarcho-capitalism means property rights(for the first comer, according to the homestead principle, or property obtained through contract) and the NAP which is self-evident. Natural authorities would still exist, and it would be easier to ostracizing and isolate the bad elements of society. Soros wouldn't be able to get rich at least through currency manipulation, an exclusively predatory activity.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510416837 148984012,149014918,2017-11-11 16:17:45,">>149014009 fair enough I'm just pointing out that the libertarian philosophy will never lead to a stable society. A viable society cannot exist without rules and order Ancap is like an unstable solution in a differential equation. The amount of effort they're pouring into their philosophy is almost comical because even when it's realized it will only be a temporary state. >then people will rise, like all throughout history. Why even allow such a person this much power? Why not limit the power and scope of government as the American founding fathers did with the constitution?",,Anonymous,unstable.gif,XFBD1Pot6ZXrQL/BcNK15Q==,,,1510417065 148984012,149015093,2017-11-11 16:19:19,">>149014918 >A viable society cannot exist without rules and order no libertarian ever advocated for such a thing you think of left libertarians which are in fact nothing more than communists so to speak. >Why even allow such a person this much power? see >>149014507",,Anonymous,,,,,1510417159 148984012,149015247,2017-11-11 16:20:45,">>149014918 >I'm just pointing out that the libertarian philosophy will never lead to a stable society. >Why not limit the power and scope of government as the American founding fathers did with the constitution? Can you see the contradiction?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510417245 148984012,149015314,2017-11-11 16:21:19,">>148994690 Hoppean ancap is just tsarist autocracy except you can do whatever you want with your privately owned states.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510417279 148984012,149015410,2017-11-11 16:22:13,">>149015314 How so?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510417333 148984012,149015645,2017-11-11 16:24:25,>It's a nilihists are proud of their nihilism episode,,Anonymous,1502943235080.jpg,vGuuYhkieb01WITs+/gFlA==,US,,1510417465 148984012,149015718,2017-11-11 16:25:04,">>149014507 >>149015093 >see How is this fundementally different from what we have now? >Property rights check >Property obtained through contract check >NAP pretty much check >Natural authorities would still exist check >Soros wouldn't be able to get rich at least through currency manipulation, an exclusively predatory activity. How do you plan on eliminating speculation without eliminating the free market? Your post seems more like a tactical withdrawal like how feminists claim ""feminism just implies equality between men and women"". We damn well know it implies more than that. In your case, none of the elements in your so-called libertarian society aren't already present to a significant degree in modern society.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510417504 148984012,149016090,2017-11-11 16:28:28,">>149015718 >Property rights no, taxes and the state prohibits you from possesing certain things, also you can't trade freely with other people. >NAP no the state can fuck you everytime it likes, and refugee hordes can go an a rampage and you can't just kill them >Natural authorities would still exist politicians aren't natural authorities",,Anonymous,,,,,1510417708 148984012,149016137,2017-11-11 16:28:59,">>148984012 Hitler wasn't a Marxist. The Night of Long Knives proves it. He purged leftist socialists from his party.",,Anonymous,hitler wasnt marxist.jpg,MTwR+IdqPbzcMOvbtGtUQg==,US,,1510417739 148984012,149016287,2017-11-11 16:30:29,">>149000828 /acg/ is run by nu-ancaps. /lrg/ is the master-race, true right-wing libertarianism.",,Anonymous,Fire.png,ESyh7zzMAt2U0rPs1Nl/mw==,,,1510417829 148984012,149016386,2017-11-11 16:31:19,">>149015247 >Can you see the contradiction? No. They used laws, rules, and the very organization of government to limit the scope of government.. Many libertarians presuppose that allowing capitalism to take its course would be sufficient to prevent a hostile government.",,Anonymous,rothbard.jpg,R/HF0mR8BcBvFjUdhsRN1A==,,,1510417879 148984012,149016396,2017-11-11 16:31:26,">>149016137 Hitler also said he was a christian, but he lied about that to get mainstream support.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510417886 148984012,149016481,2017-11-11 16:32:11,">>149015718 > How do you plan on eliminating speculation without eliminating the free market? Who talked about eliminating speculation. Without the state there wouldn't be fiat currencies nor central banks, no fiat currency speculation exists, problem solved.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510417931 148984012,149016660,2017-11-11 16:33:46,">>149015645 facism is for heard animal normies i am a genetic freak destined for godhood",,Anonymous,Brucie-Kibbutz.jpg,4Hsn98yO23J8AiXxudkCfg==,US,,1510418026 148984012,149016895,2017-11-11 16:35:42,">>149003712 >2. How would security work in ancap society? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqlVL26jrCA",,Anonymous,,,,,1510418142 148984012,149016908,2017-11-11 16:35:48,">>148984012 Ayncapism destroys the individual.",,Anonymous,1504397230490.jpg,aIgP4t1B2f0znys9iRMG8Q==,,,1510418148 148984012,149017086,2017-11-11 16:37:22,">>149016386 You didn't get it. the limitation of the scope of government didn't work, it was everything but stable. Every amendment of the Bill of rights is ignored once in a while especially the 4th and the 10th. Government was very in the 18th century and it is huge nowadays. btw, have you read anatomy of the state, by Rothbard particularly ""How the state transcends its limits""?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510418242 148984012,149017128,2017-11-11 16:37:46,">>149016287 >/lrg/ is the master-race, true right-wing libertarianism. thanks I will stick to /lrg/ threads then, they are the best on /pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1510418266 148984012,149017231,2017-11-11 16:38:47,">>149017128 f-fascist bro? its been so long.",,Anonymous,Cantwell.png,9PmJd7vEvs2EQGCN7Yw5sw==,,,1510418327 148984012,149017249,2017-11-11 16:38:55,">>149016396 and the problem with this even if you are not a socialist, you will attract subhuman scum into your movement if you want or not.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510418335 148984012,149017355,2017-11-11 16:39:47,did mmo economies turn anyone else into a capitalist?,,Anonymous,1474143827215.png,6YqOz3YEqi7FMJ56/6sPkw==,US,,1510418387 148984012,149017377,2017-11-11 16:39:59,">>149017231 I-it's been a long time, I missed you.",,Anonymous,libertarian imoutos.jpg,r/OV7uYImTs8Au1w9ocg4w==,,,1510418399 148984012,149017519,2017-11-11 16:41:16,">>149016481 >Without the state there wouldn't be fiat currencies nor central banks, no fiat currency speculation exists, problem solved. This is a purely cosmetic change. Suppose Soros made 30 Billion speculating on cryptocurrencies would that make things better than making 30 billion on national currencies. >>149016090 >prohibits you from possesing certain things You mean like drugs, and they argue libertarianism isn't about degeneracy. >also you can't trade freely with other people Yes you cannot trade drugs but apart from that, you can open up a business and trade practically anything you want. >no the state can fuck you everytime it likes No it cannot. There are laws in place. Habeas Corpus etc to prevent that So we should remove the state to produce anarchy and this would merely lead to a possibly worse state >>149014918 >politicians aren't natural authorities There is no such thing as a ""natural"" authority. The thing is we voted them in which gives them more authority than the church giving it to some inbred mutant. pic related",,Anonymous,,,,,1510418476 148984012,149017559,2017-11-11 16:41:41,"Statist still can't answer this question. If people cannot delegate rights they don't have, where did ""government"" get the right to do what it does?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510418501 148984012,149017667,2017-11-11 16:42:41,">>149017519 > pic related",,Anonymous,inbred.jpg,ilUzhq2PtuaN7+8MCXlI1A==,,,1510418561 148984012,149017843,2017-11-11 16:44:22,Tell me why ancap is better than libertarianism with a limited government,,Anonymous,,,US,,1510418662 148984012,149018209,2017-11-11 16:47:49,">>149017843 Small government is a hungry government.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510418869 148984012,149018326,2017-11-11 16:48:56,">>149017519 >You mean like drugs no was thinknig about guns, but drugs are also a point they are not the problem per se, problem about them is the welfare state and the lacking possibility to defend yourself against a junky. >you can open up a business and trade practically anything you want. again no you get taxed for every transaction and if your state boycotts another one you can't trade with people from there. I am not able to sell anything with a swastika on it openly for example. >No it cannot. There are laws in place. sure that's why they just can open the border and fuck everyones life up even more >There is no such thing as a ""natural"" authority. you sound like an egalitarian humanist",,Anonymous,panzermädels.jpg,0fZup0DF+feGRS67Oz3ylg==,,,1510418936 148984012,149018367,2017-11-11 16:49:18,">>149017519 > Suppose Soros made 30 Billion speculating on cryptocurrencies would that make things better than making 30 billion on national currencies. The problem is not Soros making money, there will always be people making money trying to get influence in other areas. The problem is how the BoE caused it by trying to buoy the pound artificially and the political power that he gets thanks to political connections.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510418958 148984012,149018508,2017-11-11 16:50:36,">>148986238 >t. 10 year old edgelord",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510419036 148984012,149018529,2017-11-11 16:50:44,"ancaps are literal subhuman garbage, it's a meme idealogy, and should not be tolerated. anyone who disputes this, is clearly brainwashed by the jews, it's true.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510419044 148984012,149018701,2017-11-11 16:52:22,">>149017377 you really are the greatest ally of /lrg/ bless you and I hope to speak with you again.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510419142 148984012,149018747,2017-11-11 16:52:42,">>149017086 >You didn't get it. the limitation of the scope of government didn't work, it was everything but stable. It doesn't matter. It had a good run. It lasted a 200 years which is 199.5 years longer than I expect any anarchist society to last. >Rothbard particularly ""How the state transcends its limits"" Every system transcend it's limits. That's how we got tyrants from free anarchistic hunter gatherer societies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510419162 148984012,149018765,2017-11-11 16:52:53,">>149018529 >subhuman cant spell ideology",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510419173 148984012,149018812,2017-11-11 16:53:16,">>149017519 >There is no such thing as a ""natural"" authority. Btw, what we call natural authorities are authorities that we voluntarily accept, and others might not. Normally people that have a greater conduct, it can be either the elder or a great benefactor of your town or whatever.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510419196 148984012,149018939,2017-11-11 16:54:20,">>148988622 In a society without state, you charge that guy for 3 seats with no ""muh discrimination"" to worry about. Problem solved.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510419260 148984012,149019123,2017-11-11 16:55:58,">>149018812 you also have people entering a room and everyone inside realize without even knowing htat they have authority.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510419358 148984012,149019454,2017-11-11 16:58:50,">>149018701 A-a-arigatou",,Anonymous,ursula.jpg,ZUgdnGAnv5n7Bt/I51NCYA==,,,1510419530 148984012,149019600,2017-11-11 16:59:58,">>149018747 I mentioned ROthbard's book because it's fairly short and it talks about the problem of limiting the government referencing Allen Smith and Charles Black's works on the subject.",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510419598 148984012,149020165,2017-11-11 17:04:58,">>149018326 >you sound like an egalitarian humanist No I'm not an egalitarian. People are clearly unequal. Many of the kings of olde were weak inbred retards. >sure that's why they just can open the border and fuck everyones life up even more You're completely confused In effect you want the government to behave more strongly and not abdicate it's responsibilities. You are not arguing for a smaller government, you are arguing for a stronger, more muscular government. This is not libertarianism. >no was thinknig about guns, but drugs are also a point they are not the problem per se, problem about them is the welfare state and the lacking possibility to defend yourself against a junky. I am not able to sell anything with a swastika on it openly for example. So you're happy with everything except you want to buy and sell things with swastikas and to reduce the welfare state. If gun rights aren't a big issue you could consider moving to India.",,Anonymous,swastika_ice_cream.jpg,enOZ7pdYCokffnq4en1t9A==,,,1510419898 148984012,149020294,2017-11-11 17:06:03,">>149017519 >The thing is we voted them in which gives them more authority than the church giving it to some inbred mutant. You can not delegate (nor vote) a right to someone that you yourself don't have. Which means the government can't have right I don't have, so they're not authority.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510419963 148984012,149020866,2017-11-11 17:11:13,">>149020165 >People are clearly unequal. Many of the kings of olde were weak inbred retards. tell me, you are a protestant right? >In effect you want the government to behave more strongly and not abdicate it's responsibilities. waht, if the gov can't even provide the only service for what it was there in the first place it has no longer a place >This is not libertarianism. and I am not a libertarian >So you're happy with everything except.... what are just a few examples....",,Anonymous,rope4you.png,odPsYsjgNBH9tTPeiEPruQ==,,,1510420273 148984012,149021845,2017-11-11 17:19:39,">NAP >invisible hand of the free market Nice spooks, nerd.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510420779 148984012,149021885,2017-11-11 17:19:59,">>149020866 >and I am not a libertarian Then I don't have any issue with you. I agree with gun rights and with the government doing it's job and protecting the border. You don't need ancap for these things to happen. >waht, if the gov can't even provide the only service for what it was there in the first place it has no longer a place Then they're a bunch of incompetent retards who will plunge their respective countries into chaos. Merkel and company are incompetent as hell. The response isn't to get rid of government altogether but to place competent people in charge of government. The blame doesn't fall only on Merkel but on the people of various countries that elected them and the culture which allowed them to consider Merkel's position as rational.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510420799 148984012,149021912,2017-11-11 17:20:13,">>148987560 >what is shooting the thief in the face Almost forgot that Canuckistan is a non-country.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1510420813 148984012,149022021,2017-11-11 17:21:11,">>148987718 With your intellectual demographic's reproductive rates, that won't be the case for much longer.",,Anonymous,,,SK,,1510420871 148984012,149022363,2017-11-11 17:24:02,">>149020866 It's a result of the self-hating culture many people in Europe and North America have. Politics is downstream from culture. The solution, if you want to change the politics, is to change the culture. If you had a hypothethical stable ancap society, the same thing would have happened. The refugee crisis happened because the people and it's culture allowed it to happen.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510421042 149023997,149023997,2017-11-11 17:37:36,"https://pastebin.com/jhTBG3S1 Old thread: >>148984012",AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,1510357374133.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1510421856 149023997,149024066,2017-11-11 17:38:14,">>149023997 The filters thought the pastebin was spam lmao click it yourself.",,Anonymous,1489869210760.jpg,9HUo5uU79Lp0TmN/R2v6UQ==,,,1510421894 149023997,149024456,2017-11-11 17:41:36,Bump,,Anonymous,ancap icon.png,OdNWF/Dc7yxGtQ4AfrZ8Ng==,,,1510422096 149023997,149024937,2017-11-11 17:45:32,Come here to bully autistic children,,Anonymous,possible_mods_YGO.jpg,4Xs2/aFEhSy84MP/yjLI4g==,US,,1510422332 149137901,149137901,2017-11-12 14:31:06,"/acg/ - AnCap General - Bitcoin Gold Edition!! This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, Anarcho-Capitalism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the ANARCHO-CAPITALISM General. Libertarians, Communists, National Socialists, other assorted Marxist degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/jhTBG3S1 >Discord: ysHXtn9 RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >(13:55) If You Were King - https://youtu.be/z0HtWSlFCAQ >(23:16) The Machinery of Freedom - youtu.be/jTYkdEU_B4o >(04:05) George Ought to Help - youtu.be/PGMQZEIXBMs >(07:09) Edgar the Exploiter - youtu.be/IFbYM2EDz40 >(11:31) You Can Always Leave - youtu.be/fasTSY-dB-s FURTHER READING: >AnCap studies guide: i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >AnCap studies torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books Bitcoin Gold launched on NASDAQ today! Invest everything you can!",AnCap General /acg/ Bitcoin Gold Edition!!,Anonymous,7510321207887.jpg,gmVUNSjDlGCeZhH5cxpMSQ==,,,1510497066 149137901,149138367,2017-11-12 14:34:46,">>149137901 >Libertarians need to fuck off >Implying we aren't just the logical conclusion of libertarianism",,Anonymous,LRG.png,mPx7QfYUsYBlR6XGjgQKyw==,,,1510497286 149137901,149138734,2017-11-12 14:37:36,Why are egoists such immature faggots? They always think they've automatically won a debate because they call your argument a spook,,Anonymous,max stirner.jpg,pZgTiNlbWM8mI1mZOEPF/Q==,,,1510497456 149137901,149138954,2017-11-12 14:39:25,bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1510497565 149137901,149139082,2017-11-12 14:40:25,"/lrg/ is for Chads, /acg/ is for cucks.",,Anonymous,DontFukWithDis2.png,BdWjL95xyb5q4Zp0/IFhAw==,,,1510497625 149137901,149139270,2017-11-12 14:41:49,Trump bump,,Anonymous,,,,,1510497709 149137901,149139429,2017-11-12 14:43:07,">>149137901 WHO PAYS FOR THE ROADS????",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510497787 149137901,149139572,2017-11-12 14:44:08,">>149139429 no one if they are built by slaves",,Anonymous,25e0a196b2255a62f7147822ca383d1d75e6c42a733cfc9f93f7c3591ecf15cd.jpg,HjhV5yDUgYMs4JsWY20ETw==,CA,,1510497848 149173543,149173543,2017-11-12 19:34:40,"/acg/ - AnCap General - Bitcoin Gold Edition!! This thread is for discussion of property rights, self-determination, natural order, Anarcho-Capitalism and the PHYSICAL REMOVAL of COMMUNIST FAGS from our board of peace. Reminder that this is the ANARCHO-CAPITALISM General. Libertarians, Communists, National Socialists, other assorted Marxist degenerates need to fuck off. Questions are welcome, however many are repeated often. We advise you research the basics before asking. THREAD RESOURCES: >Pastebin: pastebin.com/jhTBG3S1 >Discord: ysHXtn9 RECOMMENDED MATERIAL: >(13:55) If You Were King - youtu.be/z0HtWSlFCAQ >(23:16) The Machinery of Freedom - youtu.be/jTYkdEU_B4o >(04:05) George Ought to Help - youtu.be/PGMQZEIXBMs >(07:09) Edgar the Exploiter - youtu.be/IFbYM2EDz40 >(11:31) You Can Always Leave - youtu.be/fasTSY-dB-s FURTHER READING: >AnCap studies guide: i.imgur.com/wCIpgNA.jpg >AnCap studies torrent - magnet:?xt=urn:btih:8d8ec6ef882dee291f119eb69994797574e5d616&dn=Anarcho-Capitalism%20Books Bitcoin Gold launched on NASDAQ today.",AnCap General /acg/ - Bitcoin Gold Edition!!,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510515280 149173543,149175062,2017-11-12 19:47:49,"Question for Ancaps, what would prevent the mercenary army defending the Ancap nation from taking over in a coup? Also are AnCaps for or against Nukes?",,Anonymous,1509934038587.jpg,XD7yOEv+3TyGzxwi602KLw==,US,,1510516069 149173543,149177139,2017-11-12 20:07:23,">>149175062 > Question for Ancaps, what would prevent the mercenary army defending the Ancap nation from taking over in a coup? Also are AnCaps for or against Nukes? A lack of funding, bad public relations and other privately owned militias fighting against them. Also we are for nukes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510517243 149173543,149177411,2017-11-12 20:09:54,">>149177139 Yeah I guess you wouldn't need a large standing army for defense if you've got a couple nukes.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510517394 149375461,149375461,2017-11-14 08:33:06,,AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510648386 149375461,149376869,2017-11-14 08:51:40,"Question for you Ancaps, what do you do about abortion?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510649500 149375461,149376946,2017-11-14 08:52:32,">>149375461 when will the free market finally provide me my qt chink gf?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510649552 149375461,149377182,2017-11-14 08:55:46,">>149376869 I think it's morally wrong even though I'm not really religious. I also think it should be legal though since women will just do it with coat hangers if it's illegal, I just don't think it should be praised or anything. I think it should be considered a nasty thing to do by society.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510649746 149375461,149377807,2017-11-14 09:04:10,">>149377182 So if your free society can't protect fetus' from murder, how can you protect people from it?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510650250 149375461,149377949,2017-11-14 09:05:49,">>149377807 People protect themselves out of self interest.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510650349 149375461,149378135,2017-11-14 09:08:00,Answer me this: how is the system you have in the united states now ANY different in practice from anarcho-capitalism?,,Anonymous,,,,,1510650480 149375461,149378229,2017-11-14 09:09:00,">>149378135 It's not government enforced.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510650540 149375461,149378356,2017-11-14 09:10:21,">>149377949 fetus can't protect itself effectively, still deserves to live",,Anonymous,,,,,1510650621 149375461,149378439,2017-11-14 09:11:20,"So I've just started reading Democracy The God that Failed and right off the bat HHH claims that real wages had been stagnant since the 70s, a notorious leftist talking point that had been debunked a long, long time ago. It makes me question the validity of his views Tbh. Proclaiming that aristocracy and monarchyare superior to our current order had always strick me as a little too masturbatory. If that was the case then the monarchies of the Persian gulf would've been free market heavens (which they're not, they are oil-wealthy, not capitalism-wealthy).",,Anonymous,,,,,1510650680 149375461,149378445,2017-11-14 09:11:22,">>149378356 shit even a five year old couldnt, what would a kid do if their parent didnt want them alive anymore?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510650682 149375461,149378491,2017-11-14 09:11:46,">>149378229 How is it not? Can you have your own system aside from or beside the current system? No. So, IN PRACTICE (as I said in my original post) it is.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510650706 149375461,149378918,2017-11-14 09:16:52,">>149378445 succumb",,Anonymous,,,DE,,1510651012 149375461,149381523,2017-11-14 09:46:28,">>149378439 Does he give arguments for that? I mean I agree with him at least in Poland. The inflation combined with the increased taxation seems like we really are stagnant. >>149378445 Is there any way a child can protect itself today? The answer to this problem is conservatism. >>149378491 Private property vs public property. If all land is owned privately it's ancap, if it's not then it's not.",,Anonymous,1510498536525.jpg,pDfE56vnURCedk44sPIKzg==,PL,,1510652788 149375461,149383830,2017-11-14 10:10:35,"Let's say that some major private tribunals say that insurance companies aren't allowed to turn away people with preexisting conditions, but an equally sizable block of tribunals say that you indeed can do that. How do you untangle a situation like this without incapacitating the whole legislative system for that part?",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510654235 149375461,149383887,2017-11-14 10:11:12,">>149383830 *the whole JUDICIAL system",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510654272 149375461,149384398,2017-11-14 10:16:08,">>149383830 Well in hoppean societies, private law societies, the owner of the land is the ultimate decision maker there. He makes the law, the legislative system just keeps it in check. In the insurance companies the people would either customers would decide, nobody can enforce something not on their property.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510654568 149375461,149384815,2017-11-14 10:20:11,">>149383830 TL;DR the free market will figure it out. If one guy decided wrong, then a better enterprenuer will get his market share.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510654811 149375461,149384969,2017-11-14 10:21:49,">>149384398 The transaction costs must be a bitch if you don't have almost country-sized swaths of property owned by a single entity.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510654909 149375461,149385297,2017-11-14 10:24:51,">>149381523 Actually the average polish person today is way wealthier than he was back in the 70s, you can look it up yourself. And no, he doesn't back his claim of wage stagnation, which is truly odd, since it's a claim than not a single free market economist believes in.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510655091 149375461,149385316,2017-11-14 10:25:03,">>149378445 Nothing really, but having a state wouldn't protect the fetus or kid either. The punishment sometimes has to come after, you can't prevent every wrong from happening.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510655103 149375461,149385902,2017-11-14 10:30:25,">>149375461 what is the best carrer or profession for an ancap? I hope to start my own company or be an entrepreneur in the next years",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1510655425 149375461,149386020,2017-11-14 10:31:40,">>149385902 The most intelligent people have to become proffesors and take over the academia. The enterprenuers have to become the elite.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510655500 149375461,149386556,2017-11-14 10:37:11,">>149385902 Private international law and part time teacher in uni. Have a phd on the subject o polycentric law and catallaxy. Students love me other professors hate me.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510655831 149375461,149388644,2017-11-14 10:57:59,">>149386556 where do you teach? i thought about studying mathematics maybe... but i am not sure yet.",,Anonymous,,,CL,,1510657079 149375461,149389215,2017-11-14 11:03:13,">>149388644 In Moscow, Russia. If you are not sure than start with logic and game theory. It much more applicable irl.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1510657393 149375461,149391414,2017-11-14 11:23:55,">>149389215 This is what Korwin studied I think. Really makes you think that the study of logic, the true world, makes you libertarian...",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1510658635 149375461,149394100,2017-11-14 11:48:30,">>149391414 I like Korwin but I cant confirm that. Yes but I hate when libertarianism is derailed to liberalala like 'gays should protect their marijuana rights'.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510660110 149434587,149434587,2017-11-14 17:24:10,,AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,acg.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510680250 149434587,149435912,2017-11-14 17:34:46,Who would build the roads?,,Anonymous,,,,,1510680886 149434587,149436272,2017-11-14 17:37:27,">>149435912 https://www.google.com/search?q=private+road",,Anonymous,,,,,1510681047 149434587,149436839,2017-11-14 17:41:42,">If I were asked to answer the following question: What is slavery? and I should answer in one word, It is murder!, my meaning would be understood at once. No extended argument would be required to show that the power to remove a man's mind, will, and personality, is the power of life and death, and that it makes a man a slave. It is murder. Why, then, to this other question: What is property? may I not likewise answer, It is robbery!, without the certainty of being misunderstood; the second proposition being no other than a transformation of the first? Pierre-Joseph Proudhon >The first man who, having fenced in a piece of land, said ""This is mine,"" and found people naive enough to believe him, that man was the true founder of civil society. From how many crimes, wars, and murders, from how many horrors and misfortunes might not any one have saved mankind, by pulling up the stakes, or filling up the ditch, and crying to his fellows: Beware of listening to this impostor; you are undone if you once forget that the fruits of the earth belong to us all, and the earth itself to nobody. Jean-Jacques Rousseau What did they mean by this?",,Anonymous,Pierre-Joseph Proudhon & Jean-Jacques Rousseau.jpg,YGjdKno5Bw3GJ0biZkNFzQ==,DE,,1510681302 149434587,149438935,2017-11-14 17:58:00,">>149436839 Proudhon is speaking nonsense and making false claims. Disregard everything he says. Rousseau is arguing that property cannot be owned. He was a mutualist, so a communist.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510682280 149434587,149439716,2017-11-14 18:03:39,">>149436839 >>149438935 *They were both mutualists (communists)",,Anonymous,,,,,1510682619 149526830,149526830,2017-11-15 08:46:09,,AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510735569 149526830,149529287,2017-11-15 09:16:15,God I sure hate niggers,,Anonymous,b76.jpg,QXnKKlH6/OEU76my9xUz/A==,,,1510737375 149526830,149530032,2017-11-15 09:24:59,">>149526830 I thought Friedman was a crypto kike that denied anarcho capitalism in favor of his personal brand of utilitarian statism?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510737899 149526830,149530889,2017-11-15 09:34:37,"Y'all need some more right-wing libertarians >literally no Hoppe >no Rothbard >no MISES institute >no paleo-libertarians >and no fuckin' Cantwell Fuck Larken Rose and fuck David Friedman, those left libertarian dickbags. JOIN US ON THE LIBERTARIAN RIGHT. GAS THE STATE, AND PHYSICALLY REMOVE THE LEFT!",,Anonymous,Hoppe_Was_Right.png,gsWH5pXuPkHRnDN9j3q6kA==,,,1510738477 149526830,149531126,2017-11-15 09:37:13,">>149530889 >when there are roads",,Anonymous,1501364746871.png,Kepm7XekLkkZSIOrOYj1kg==,,,1510738633 149526830,149531176,2017-11-15 09:37:49,,,Anonymous,Keynesian Job Creation.jpg,rg1ZLn41N02B97gDdf2Q4w==,,,1510738669 149526830,149531228,2017-11-15 09:38:23,,,Anonymous,1510418868131.jpg,1t2V4+YWXBySpGSDW351wQ==,,,1510738703 149526830,149531313,2017-11-15 09:39:12,,,Anonymous,1510754081190.png,efKiEmenD4v9rgs2OukcGg==,,,1510738752 149526830,149531341,2017-11-15 09:39:32,">>149531126 Roads are a gateway to communism. Reject socialist road vehicles.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510738772 149526830,149531388,2017-11-15 09:40:05,,,Anonymous,1510332781916.png,Uvjx9UjzJD1sbUeJEkjGkQ==,,,1510738805 149526830,149532065,2017-11-15 09:47:07,,,Anonymous,1506795221849.jpg,l066R7o6T2FK7CQYbNDbVQ==,,,1510739227 149526830,149532464,2017-11-15 09:51:22,,,Anonymous,1508523822062.jpg,FgwHi//XW226pyIzWGzDTg==,,,1510739482 149526830,149532690,2017-11-15 09:53:37,,,Anonymous,1510233894493.jpg,0sF+ihIrhgY79FwBNwUPzA==,,,1510739617 149526830,149533348,2017-11-15 10:00:51,"I'm running out of memes Someone please post something",,Anonymous,1510245905182.png,yCrCv2MklfdN0COVo+cXQA==,,,1510740051 149526830,149533491,2017-11-15 10:02:10,">>149526830 Refute this /pol/ https://youtu.be/sCD8acJAPiE",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510740130 149526830,149533702,2017-11-15 10:04:30,">>149533491 Gay none argument strawmen. I am not even going to bother",,Anonymous,,,,,1510740270 149526830,149534434,2017-11-15 10:11:58,">>149533491 >ancaps love money wrong >ancaps say no to free healthcare wrong >ancaps want no government wrong >that means no roads still wrong >ancaps are okay with slavery wrong >ancaps kill if u touch their stuff wrong How retarded do you have to be to come to these shitty conclusions?",,Anonymous,1491416988479.png,pPQUQ0fMpSQ+ygmiZwhtng==,,,1510740718 149526830,149535413,2017-11-15 10:22:24,,,Anonymous,1510075302527.jpg,aCrUDM1EbzZ1wToWfTO5zg==,,,1510741344 149526830,149536010,2017-11-15 10:28:21,">>149526830 why no more /lrg/?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510741701 149526830,149536223,2017-11-15 10:30:17,">>149531341 roads are the veins of socialism, they suck off the blood and sweat of the farmers and redristibute them to some urban moloch.",,Anonymous,roads kill people.jpg,z/tgMJaD7Ikvwqas8reu9w==,,,1510741817 149526830,149536271,2017-11-15 10:30:51,">>149526830 Hoppe gives me hope.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510741851 149526830,149537640,2017-11-15 10:44:45,">>149536010 There's still /lrg/ but this OP wants specifically an ancap general, because the libertarian right isn't just anarcho capitalism desu I prefer /lrg/ for ancap discussion anyway. The thread op is better too",,Anonymous,1491766381614-1-1200x2597.png,1d6p0f2H7yhL81wdX1Rj8w==,,,1510742685 149526830,149538204,2017-11-15 10:50:41,"Bump for life, liberty, and private death squads.",,Anonymous,austrianism vs fascism.jpg,Tea5RXGVrkcHyyvQdFD47w==,,,1510743041 149526830,149539219,2017-11-15 11:00:10,,,Anonymous,お前はもう死んでいる.png,hHDLbd+hNuIJp7ExsAioFg==,,,1510743610 149526830,149539385,2017-11-15 11:01:44,"why dont libertarians have any myths? and how do they expect to carry out their revolution? the people do not want libertarianism, even in this ago of consumerism. the whole movement is pseudo intellectual memers and rural americans. once the economy colapses the social ideologies will dominate once more. libertarianism will just be a shamefull remnant of a bygone era >syndicalist general strike >fascism national rebirth >communism catastrophic revolution",,Anonymous,IlDuce.jpg,dOOtcmc4GnvciXl/43zLFg==,NL,,1510743704 149526830,149540076,2017-11-15 11:07:17,">>149539385 >the people do not want libertarianism That's why most of us just plan on leaving.",,Anonymous,Liechtenstein.png,6t1M5hYFazudz9CRIHv9SQ==,,,1510744037 149526830,149540720,2017-11-15 11:12:52,">>149540076 because most people are worthless and they enjoy mass movements, you will have to claim your birthright by force or you will never be.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510744372 149526830,149541304,2017-11-15 11:18:26,">>149540720 Precisely.",,Anonymous,1506969496720.png,fVAd+B6MJd4SQ6qiOSUtjQ==,,,1510744706 149526830,149542799,2017-11-15 11:32:24,">>149534434 >ancaps aren't okay with slavery Why lie?",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1510745544 149526830,149543485,2017-11-15 11:38:47,">>149542799 >every person has the inalienable right to property of their own body >it is impossible to suspend this right unless by the voluntary and continual consent by the person >no contract can exist whereby a person suspends their inalienable right without their consent The only time slavery exists in an anarcho capitalist society is potentially in response to a crime the person commits- similar to indentured servitude. The person commits a crime -> pays back for said crime through labor proportional to the crime they committed. I suppose I concede the point that ancaps are okay with slavery, because we are, but it's heavily conditional and requires that the ""slave"" unethically utilize violence against another party in order to get into that position to begin with.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510745927 149526830,149545325,2017-11-15 11:56:52,">>149543485 but that isn't reality people will be captured and sold as slaves",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510747012 149526830,149545717,2017-11-15 12:00:40,">>149545325 >People will get captured If they haven't committed a crime then the person capturing them will be blown away by their private security firm >sold as slaves To whom? Anyone that buys them will be marked for death just like the kidnapper. If someone gets kidnapped then their security service will be notified by an interested party (like in all current missing person's cases, but with the public police instead). The security service will then find that person and extract proportional retribution from their kidnappers.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510747240 149526830,149546142,2017-11-15 12:04:43,">>149545717 >the person capturing them will be blown away by their private security firm unless the person with the slave empire is rich, and the people he's capturing are poor",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510747483 149526830,149546726,2017-11-15 12:10:27,">>149546142 >the person with the slave empire is rich There are always far more victims than there are perpetrators. A ""slave empire"" would quickly be dismantled, because no one could legitimately purchase the goods produced by that empire. If the empire has any competition, then it would be in their best interests to contract out security firms to dismantle that empire in order to further their best interests. The slave empire would not be able to obtain protection from any legitimate security firm, which would be the vast majority. This means they would have to contract out the drastically smaller pool of private but unethical security firms, and they would be heavily outnumbered by the ethical security firms. They would be bled out through market attrition, outnumbered by ethical security firms, and hated by all those who have a vested interest in slavery being unacceptable (read: everyone that isn't a slave owner). They wouldn't last a day",,Anonymous,image-3.jpg,BN4UdUIo+ESByUtgIVF67w==,,,1510747827 149526830,149546905,2017-11-15 12:12:09,">>149546142 Even though Friedman is an autistic retard and I hate most of his ""contributions"" to Libertarianism, the summary of his Machinery of Freedom posted in the OP ( https://youtu.be/jTYkdEU_B4o ) pretty solidly explains why your scenario simply isn't feasible",,Anonymous,,,,,1510747929 149600372,149600372,2017-11-15 19:11:46,,AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510773106 149731643,149731643,2017-11-16 17:54:34,,AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1510854874 149731643,149731928,2017-11-16 17:56:53,">>149731643 Bump from the boys from /lrg/",,Anonymous,The Family.png,BU6kI/EGJ2edHDzsLCe7qg==,,,1510855013 149731643,149731950,2017-11-16 17:57:02,,,Anonymous,FreeToDoRight.png,Okh0nz2vw2aJ49Le7dWQeg==,,,1510855022 149731643,149731998,2017-11-16 17:57:31,,,Anonymous,what_we_actually_are.png,neZJcXUaypdHcahZgApFbQ==,,,1510855051 149731643,149732057,2017-11-16 17:58:05,">>149731950 >proceeds to do drugs",,Anonymous,,,,,1510855085 149731643,149732298,2017-11-16 18:00:08,">>149732057 Why would I do drugs? I want to buy up all the water so fucks like you are at my mercy. Shooting up will not take me to that goal.",,Anonymous,1503094565841.png,6fXtJz019tRH2cqyFLm/LQ==,,,1510855208 149731643,149732324,2017-11-16 18:00:22,">>149731643 Kys you fucking cunt. Ancap will be one of the first on the day of the rope. Traitors are worse than enemies.",,Anonymous,1510629464651.jpg,7TXcLGHXXw2qVKv2w2BvGQ==,GB,,1510855222 149731643,149732530,2017-11-16 18:02:08,">>149732324 Only one person in that image is an Anarcho-Capitalist, aside from Rothbard and Von Mises the others can fuck off. >Libertarianism is a tool of Zionism, Invented by jews, ect ect. STOP GLOBALISM. ABOLISH CENTRAL BANKING. END THE FED. GAS THE STATE NONE of this helps Zionist control. We challenge power more than any National Socialists think they do. Locke, Smith and Bastiat, the founders of capitalism as an economic system based off private property norms, were all Gentiles. Acquisition of resources is a vital part of human action and has brought us such wonders like ancient architecture, art, and technology far beyond what we could have imagined a hundred years ago. Jews are interested because it deals with acquisition of resources, like any other serious economic system. >""The Jewish Question"" by Life Love and ANARCHY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1jtKNs5q2o >Documenting Anti-Semitism Within the Libertarian Movement: https://chelm.freeyellow.com/libertarianproblem.html Even our favored jews are blasted for being token jews, anti-semites and racists by jews in high places. You can point out Rothbard (pbuh) was a jew, but you can find no link to zionism or bolshevism. I dare you to call the libertarian philosophy a tool of zionism. bring your evidence fag.",,Anonymous,xwYSdbT.jpg,so0HH5YuIBw1DatKVUVCDg==,,,1510855328 149731643,149732652,2017-11-16 18:03:15,,,Anonymous,ancapsmug.png,SPt8HKwOEU08HT3OsDED9g==,US,,1510855395 149731643,149732675,2017-11-16 18:03:28,Behead those who insult the State,,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510855408 149731643,149732713,2017-11-16 18:03:45,">>149732298 >I want to buy up all the water so fucks like you are at my mercy. Shooting up will not take me to that goal. Yeah, like that's going to ever happen, soy boy. You should honestly feel embarrassed for being a libertarian. But I'm sure you're too low IQ and autistic to feel embarrassed.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510855425 149731643,149732761,2017-11-16 18:04:06,,,Anonymous,1486964403868.png,UuSBxhMYV8VeBPw0+U3SGA==,US,,1510855446 149731643,149732914,2017-11-16 18:05:39,">>149732652 These obese neckbeards need to be memed of this board. Anyone with an IQ above 105 abandoned libertarianism after they turned 18, when they realised it's a fairytale. Or they subscribe to it in the first place.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510855539 149731643,149732962,2017-11-16 18:06:01,">>149732324 >>149732652 >>149732675 >>149732761 kek at these statist slaves",,Anonymous,,,,,1510855561 149731643,149732994,2017-11-16 18:06:17,"We be coming to violate your NAP, bucko.",,Anonymous,imperial-march.gif,qa1TiMQdKyJLdGq6wlqW9A==,,,1510855577 149731643,149733019,2017-11-16 18:06:36,">>149732713 Embarrased of holding the Ideology of self-determination and personal responsibility as opposed to selfish gibsmedats and social justice delivered by the state? Fuck off faggot, suck my dick. White Capitalists will build the ethnostate. there will never be a successful white socialist ever again. We will dominate the world and restore the natural order.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510855596 149731643,149733142,2017-11-16 18:07:41,">>149732994 hurry it up faggot, I can't wait for your beta uprising.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510855661 149731643,149733146,2017-11-16 18:07:42,">>149732962 >muh statist",,Anonymous,IMG_3328.jpg,iCmKp0b6SY9dFhNtXmfgYw==,US,,1510855662 149731643,149733305,2017-11-16 18:09:11,,,Anonymous,Degeneracy.png,527HuTsyW+FS2tDESS5nCQ==,,,1510855751 149731643,149733430,2017-11-16 18:10:15,">>149732761 Wouldn't you think that there's private army or something.",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510855815 149731643,149733462,2017-11-16 18:10:37,">The Truth About Libertarianism | Immigration and Borders https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtvmgfI2zyM",,Anonymous,Snek.png,Nb9hZPVNDv3UU2h+rEw5zw==,,,1510855837 149731643,149733469,2017-11-16 18:10:38,">>149733146 It's funny, your only rebuttal to the perfect ideology is literally to post wildly inaccurate memes.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510855838 149731643,149733488,2017-11-16 18:10:48,">>149733430 And private borders too.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510855848 149731643,149733527,2017-11-16 18:11:06,">>149732761 Yes goy!",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510855866 149731643,149733548,2017-11-16 18:11:17,">Anarcho-Capitalism and the Alt-Right https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnZa0v7yIUg",,Anonymous,,,,,1510855877 149731643,149733561,2017-11-16 18:11:22,">>149733488 Yeah",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510855882 149731643,149733652,2017-11-16 18:12:10,">Libertarianism's Ultimate Logical Conclusion https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om7rUCY3f_U",,Anonymous,Ultimate Conclusion.png,gmmaLMQcpJvJiusxZNqMuQ==,,,1510855930 149731643,149733705,2017-11-16 18:12:36,">>149732962 You're a slave to a fantasy that will never exist in reality.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510855956 149731643,149733804,2017-11-16 18:13:31,">>149733430 >in my fantasy Show me an anarcho capitalist society.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510856011 149731643,149733854,2017-11-16 18:13:59,">>149733705 So what? Am I supposed to bend over for the government and let them strip me of my personal freedoms?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510856039 149731643,149733860,2017-11-16 18:14:04,"enjoy your open borders >but Hoppe says... Hoppe is wrong.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510856044 149731643,149733916,2017-11-16 18:14:32,"Got a heap of paperbacks coming for my birthday, already read half of them but which ones should I get stuck into lads: > Omnipotent government - Mises > Road to Serfdom - Hayek > The Law - Bastiat > Vision of the annointed - Sowell > The Revolution - Ron Paul > Anatomy of the State - Rothbard > Democracy the god that failed - Hoppe > Constitution of Liberty - Hayek > The Fatal Conceit - Hayek > For A New Liberty - Rothbard > The Libertarian Reader from Lao Tzu to Milton Friedman - David Boaz",,Anonymous,1492207350948.png,Fgu4ssxpE9GGprX8DhGZ9w==,,,1510856072 149731643,149733930,2017-11-16 18:14:41,">>149733705 A slave to personal responsibility and self-determination? >>149733804 literally any voluntary community, mostly traditionalist communities in America like the amish and religious communites.",,Anonymous,Milk.png,Bg6G5W0vPD41mjU0jxTINg==,,,1510856081 149731643,149733994,2017-11-16 18:15:08,">>149732761 >>149732652",,Anonymous,1483430224386.png,cFhgGumYcxx16TfYMHhh6w==,,,1510856108 149731643,149734158,2017-11-16 18:16:29,,,Anonymous,Open_Borders_Are_An_Assault_On_Private_Property.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,,,1510856189 149731643,149734391,2017-11-16 18:18:22,">>149733804 United states pre ww1",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510856302 149731643,149734474,2017-11-16 18:18:57,">>149733804 Private military eradicated Somali Piracy, you're welcome. >>149733860 False dichotomy leaf >>149733462 > The truth about government borders and government immigration and the welfare state Fixed it",,Anonymous,1506999614417.jpg,JF1a0mKynwWU/8UNmab5vQ==,,,1510856337 149731643,149734665,2017-11-16 18:20:22,">>149732324 Faggot you'll find Jews advocating for every ideology you're just mad you're of an inferior race",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510856422 149731643,149734699,2017-11-16 18:20:38,">>149734158 I'm sure they all make pretty much the same nonsense argument that Hoppe does, that the owners of the infrastructure necessary for immigration will magically do your bidding and keep out immigrants (despite the fact that business owners love cheap labor)",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510856438 149731643,149734835,2017-11-16 18:21:43,">>149734474 I can't tell if you're attacking me or not, but im your goy. If you're not familiar with the arguments here take a look at Lew Rockwell's statements on the regime of open borders erroding our rights.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510856503 149731643,149735190,2017-11-16 18:24:30,">>149734474 >False dichotomy leaf Nope. Have you ever noticed that anarcho-communism makes no sense? It doesn't have a satisfactory answer to the question, ""if there is no government then who enforces all the rules necessary for communism?"" Well it's the same thing with ancap and open borders. No government equals no borders. Literally the only way to secure the border is to buy all the highways, all the roads, all the harbours, all the rivers, all the airports, all the land along the border, and secure it privately.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510856670 149731643,149735330,2017-11-16 18:25:33,">>149731643 People that are natsoc generally assume that libertarians/individualists are sargon of akkad level of cuckery. Individualism is actually stage of blackpill beyond fascism/natsoc.",,Anonymous,images (1).jpg,BS9neCaQEUL9bQaBRHSSlA==,FI,,1510856733 149731643,149735435,2017-11-16 18:26:16,">>149731643 How to make everyone tip in for borders and the people that need help (widows, disabled etc)? Tax makes sure everyone tips in and thus most people are happy to contribute. But if there is nothing that is forcing you to pay then the mentality emerges: ""Well someone else will take care of it""",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1510856776 149731643,149735464,2017-11-16 18:26:31,">>149734835 No its okay, I love you. >>149734699 > Business owners love cheap labor Truth is, lets say a business runs some public areas like roads to their shopping center etc, then unless its a gated or closed community everyone can freely walk around. However the purchase or renting of land requires the use and maintenence of property rights. Since the society will be decentralized, its very very unlikely that one entity will own the border around an entire country/continent unless done through a coalition of people/businesses. It all relies on community standards, property rights, the lack of a welfare state and the necessity to work, the necessity to participate in a society and its culture/community, the necessity to take responsibility for people invited to a society whether it be businesses making sure workers don't do illegal shit or individuals being held accountable. Its difficult to assume tho",,Anonymous,,,,,1510856791 149731643,149735523,2017-11-16 18:27:02,">>149732324 Don't worry buddy, we know and we can't wait to start shooting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510856822 149731643,149735586,2017-11-16 18:27:33,">>149734699 Oh so you've read his works on the immigration problem? what is his argument? How is it nonsense? also >cheap Labor its less cost effective to ship a bunch of niggers over, train them and put them to work than it is to use the local population that is already educated, especially considering theres no minimum wage making it harder for locals to out compete the wages of niggers (who dont work anyway) why would it ever be preferable to import abd hire non native launguage genetic retards than get people who are already capable of employment in your country when theres no market incentive to do so? tldr; unironically learn 2 economics you dipshit.",,Anonymous,unknown.png,YXnQvS3Ujlk6XmeTY7UG3Q==,,,1510856853 149731643,149735766,2017-11-16 18:28:58,">>149733804 Your everyday life unless you're a cop, tax collector, or other state goon.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510856938 149731643,149735837,2017-11-16 18:29:38,">>149735190 Please see: >>149735435 Ancap has a very satisfactory answer to who enforces all the rules. Just because people seek important services voluntarily, doesn't mean they require the consent of every criminal and foreigner so there's a myriad of ways borders and rules can be handled and its been thoroughly discussed in Libertarian circles for about 60+ years to varying degrees. Not that you care.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510856978 149731643,149735845,2017-11-16 18:29:44,">>149735190 this is a huge misconception, AnCaps aren't against all hierarchy and governing bodies, you're thinking of communists. let me make this clear WE LIKE LAW AND ORDER. We just want governance by those who provide the best services.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510856984 149731643,149736017,2017-11-16 18:31:03,>this kills the ancap,,Anonymous,Natural Monopoly.png,Fi2qZUz3lFbxd20uHBHQ3g==,US,,1510857063 149731643,149736111,2017-11-16 18:31:55,">>149732324 Collectivists are worse than criminals, your denial of basic human rights and the propensity to sacrifice people on the aztec altar of ""the volk"" or whatever term you prefer is disgusting and anathema to human existence that we've been fighting for hundreds of years. Your justified immorality disgusts me to no end and your lack of respect for freedom is really telling.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857115 149731643,149736240,2017-11-16 18:32:56,">>149736017 > There MIGHT be a lack of competition despite all historical and theoretical evidence, therefore we should just monopolize it with the state! That'll stop monopolies! You dont care about monopolies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857176 149731643,149736260,2017-11-16 18:33:07,">>149736017 Natural monopolies are a non-problem - most monopolies in all of economic history have been a result of state activity.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510857187 149731643,149736282,2017-11-16 18:33:20,My idea of AnCap is killing the pedophile elite and stealing their Ill-gotten wealth.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1510857200 149731643,149736361,2017-11-16 18:34:07,">>149736017 A ""natural monopoly"" is supported by their consumer base, if theres no violent force enforcing that company and people still like the service than thats all cool with me. It would only be a monopoly because it does its job so well that theres no demand for competition. So whats the problem?",,Anonymous,WhiteFam.png,E8eJhG3b8BpaSCwGUl9w+Q==,,,1510857247 149731643,149736381,2017-11-16 18:34:20,">>149736240 Pretty sure all early liberals were white nationalists as were the early libertarians. You are a civnat cuck",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1510857260 149731643,149736404,2017-11-16 18:34:29,">>149733142 >world war 1 vets >betas uhhh ok fag how many battles have u fought in",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857269 149731643,149736417,2017-11-16 18:34:34,">>149736260 like the sewer system? or the electrical grid? or the roads?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510857274 149731643,149736448,2017-11-16 18:34:49,">>149735586 >what is his argument? his argument is that the owners of infrastructure won't allow immigrants it's the same magical thinking as anarcho-communism, the assumption that once there is no government everybody will just do what you want them to https://mises.org/system/tdf/13_2_8_0.pdf?file=1&type=document page 7",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510857289 149731643,149736515,2017-11-16 18:35:27,">>149731643 So let's say in your AnCap society, a father begins to molest his little daughter. Since there is no state, what can the daughter do while she is being molested if there is no police.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510857327 149731643,149736520,2017-11-16 18:35:31,">>149736282 Thats exacty it, One copy of ""Anatomy of the State"" and 1000+ hours of alex jones for you. https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf",,Anonymous,1491781634327.png,ba53DbPzk62TtY8D4xfvbw==,,,1510857331 149731643,149736584,2017-11-16 18:36:07,">>149736404 you're not a veteran, you're a beta wagecuck who's bitching while you're being crushed by my capitalist boot.",,Anonymous,2222_773a0.jpg,iZfLRAkjMteZsrYzJSFOnQ==,,,1510857367 149731643,149736622,2017-11-16 18:36:26,">>149736361 Imagine if the water treatment plant servicing a town was owned by a private corporation. They could milk the town to their heart's content. Everyone is totally at their mercy. that's why usually such a thing would be owned by the town, or at least have the town making rules for whatever company they contract out to run it",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510857386 149731643,149736655,2017-11-16 18:36:47,">>149733916 bastiat is short, but utterly essential tbph",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510857407 149731643,149736695,2017-11-16 18:37:11,">>149734391 Kek, no.The U.S. had a powerful state that did whatever the fuck it wanted. >>149733930 Show me a prosperous civilisation built on your principles. Don't be vague. Come on, show specifics. >>149734474 You mean private militarises, which are all comprised of ex-Government trained soldiers or personnel? Secondly, those private military's are simply auxiliaries and loyal to a state. >>149735766 That's cute, but no. Point me to an anarcho capitalist society. Stop dodging, you coward.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510857431 149731643,149736724,2017-11-16 18:37:26,">>149735845 Yes, but there's no logical mechanism for how or why borders would be secure in ancapistan",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510857446 149731643,149736743,2017-11-16 18:37:33,">>149736417 We'd have those cheaper and without a gun to our heads if price-insensitive state lackeys whose political incentives are to broker special deals with themselves as benefactors rather than get the best deal.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510857453 149731643,149736788,2017-11-16 18:38:03,">>149736622 right, and that would create a demand for another more compasionate water company. Idiot, they've just destoryed their monopoly by not providing good service.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857483 149731643,149736846,2017-11-16 18:38:29,">>149736111 'Human rights' are a bunch of baloney that do not exist, you retarded ape. They're abstractions, not something that is real. Newsflash kiddo, the people with rights are the ones with power and guns. 'Rights' are created from force. Grow up.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510857509 149731643,149736937,2017-11-16 18:39:13,">>149736695 >but no Your daily life is literally ancap.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510857553 149731643,149736989,2017-11-16 18:39:32,">>149733930 >A slave to personal responsibility and self-determination? Except you don't need anarcho-larpism for that.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510857572 149731643,149737018,2017-11-16 18:39:47,">>149736788 so you're going to build another competing network of pipes out to the town?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510857587 149731643,149737022,2017-11-16 18:39:53,">>149736695 The United states of America, admittedly the philosophy we speak of is more evolved than that of the classical liberals and I think they made some mistakes but its the same foundation of property rights. its only a 50 year old philosophy btw.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857593 149731643,149737079,2017-11-16 18:40:26,>>149732324,,Anonymous,1505451341928.jpg,+lxcwyj9LwIzKJA/azYm+Q==,,,1510857626 149731643,149737086,2017-11-16 18:40:30,Reminder that Rothbard was never a red-baiting retard like people in these threads. It was the anti-Communists who drove libertarians like Rothbard out of the post-war Right.,,Anonymous,,,,,1510857630 149731643,149737137,2017-11-16 18:41:01,">>149736695 Nah..before millitary industrial complex",,Anonymous,,,FI,,1510857661 149731643,149737208,2017-11-16 18:41:36,"Acquire $ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAExa9P7hME",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857696 149731643,149737231,2017-11-16 18:41:44,">>149731643 >Ancaptard and self-determination You can't build a chair, not to mention a house. Ancaptards think they are independent when they invest into somebody else's work like stocks or property, you ain't shit, you are a leech of society. Investors don't create anything and ants in corporations aren't innovators. The whole wealth ancaptards created was on somebody else's back, ancap-capitalists are the most useless human beings. Even the money ancaps use was invented by collective of people, every law that money works by is created by collective. Ancap tards ain't nothing but virus in collective, a leech.",,Anonymous,mK9JN42wH3c.jpg,vzc+JhgjmP6HH8JWN+FCvA==,SI,,1510857704 149731643,149737274,2017-11-16 18:42:09,">>149736724 It doesn't need a ""logical mechanism"", theres a market demand to not have muslims poor into your country and rape your women. therefore we'll spend our money on defeneding our territory. what aren't you getting? Im not being a smug twat, I really want you to understand how market incentives work.",,Anonymous,Govt=Dindu.jpg,NvKOK2zuQwPWccDAYIn4sw==,,,1510857729 149731643,149737368,2017-11-16 18:42:53,">>149736989 Thats not an argument against Anarcho-Capitalism, thats just unfunny banter.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857773 149731643,149737388,2017-11-16 18:43:00,">>149737086 Anti-leftism =/= neo-con buffoonery.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510857780 149731643,149737444,2017-11-16 18:43:28,">>149736381 > all early liberals were collectivists > you're a civnat cuck Listen, I love De Bruyne like a son but you need to back the fuck off okay cunt? Don't try and paint our forbearers with a collectivist fucking brush when they basically popularized and theorized the ultimate individualist outlook on society. Western history is one of collectivists throwing us into endless conflict between their groups and the emergence of individualist liberty as THE ideaology for social harmony as an important goal. If you don't like that, that's fine but piss of with your bullshit please and thank you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857808 149731643,149737591,2017-11-16 18:44:37,">>149737274 >>149735586 You guys are just going to pretend that it doesn't already happen? People hire illegal Mexicans all the time, and that's in a society in which it's against the rules. If you remove the penalties for doing so then that activity will increase, not decrease.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510857877 149731643,149737624,2017-11-16 18:44:51,">>149736655 > mfw already read it twice but can't wait to again >>149736695 No, I mean a legit private mercernary army took out the Somali pirates basically for good.",,Anonymous,bastiat-quote.jpg,zREj6YZNX3cIky9DX3Jeog==,,,1510857891 149731643,149737699,2017-11-16 18:45:28,">>149737086 You're a fool and a shill, I know this because you post this in every thread and never respond. Rothbard was more of a commie hater than any neo-con faggot and just because they also dont like communist doesn't mean we're just like them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857928 149731643,149737792,2017-11-16 18:46:10,">>149736846 > all ideas are abstractions > therefore we shouldn't uphold any ideals Get a load of this kid. Your power and guns meme ignores literally the last 200 years of history where we found alternatives to violence in Capitalism but you don't care about the progress of humanity you just like your knee jerk assumptions about the human condition. All good.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510857970 149731643,149737794,2017-11-16 18:46:12,">>149736361 A ""natural Monopoly"" is like a cobbler. Something where the demand outweighs the supply.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510857972 149731643,149737896,2017-11-16 18:47:00,">>149737086 Betrayal of the American Right was a great book to be honest. Utterly shocking stuff.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510858020 149731643,149737962,2017-11-16 18:47:38,">>149737231 I'm literally a skilled laborer, feel free to ask me about my professional life as a craftsman, welder and automotive technician. Im saving my pennies to buy some land and build a house. Whats your skillset look like?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510858058 149731643,149738009,2017-11-16 18:47:59,who pays for the roads mr. ancap?,,Anonymous,,,,,1510858079 149731643,149738053,2017-11-16 18:48:22,">>149736404 The thing about people who have already fought in battles is that 99% of them never want to fight again. You show me that 1% and I'll give all respect and deference. But, the reality is that some of us are preparing for war while the vast majority are cowering in fear from war.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858102 149731643,149738175,2017-11-16 18:49:14,">>149736515 Stab her father in the throat.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858154 149731643,149738210,2017-11-16 18:49:35,">>149737591 People hire illegal mexicans because its a crime for citizens to work as cheap as the mexicans do. What part of ""abolish minimum wage"" dont you get? We have a clear solution to the problem, we're not arguing for what happens now, we want to deal with it.",,Anonymous,1494199996985.jpg,5JCNG+rCtM+B1/iHTRok7w==,,,1510858175 149731643,149738260,2017-11-16 18:50:01,">>149733019 >self-determination Ancaptards don't realize that word was used first by Vladimir Lenin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination >During and after World War I, the principle was encouraged by both Vladimir Lenin and United States President Woodrow Wilson.[",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510858201 149731643,149738304,2017-11-16 18:50:24,">>149738009 Roads are for communist, we dream of a society free from the asphault jew.",,Anonymous,No_Roads.png,RbLxbP2TGHqlV5P0yAqlbQ==,,,1510858224 149731643,149738309,2017-11-16 18:50:27,">>149737444 You are a fucking retard. Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Abraham Lincohn and Quincy Adam, John Locke were all racialists and white nationalists. Never would they have promoted a multiculti cuck ideology. They acknowledged demographics. You are a traitor and a cuck. A Merkel teir traitor. What good is freedom in a third world country",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1510858227 149731643,149738476,2017-11-16 18:51:45,">>149738260 yeah and marx first used capitalism and bourgeoisie, two titles im proud to wear. Whats your point, gaylord? you dont like my choice of words? go fuck yourself.",,Anonymous,NAP.png,5v04RK6lxulDymSQKrmI3A==,,,1510858305 149731643,149738491,2017-11-16 18:51:53,">>149738009 The roads are in a horrible state of disarray so I ask the same question statist.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858313 149731643,149738540,2017-11-16 18:52:23,">>149731643 Mises used logic and deductive reasoning to work out a complete model for a free society. Rothbard did not improve on Mises by adopting anarchism, he removed the cornerstone to the entire model! He made an egregious error by removing the state and presuming the existence of law without any authorities. In the absence of government, private property rights do not win by default. Every faction would have their own ideas about what the rules of society should be. Many people would forcefully refuse to respect private property. Instead of being ""private,"" all property would become contested. I think this is an important debate because we don't present a uniform ideal to the public. Ancaps also tend to not support political action, which cripples our small movement. After a debt crisis, there will be a power struggle between us and the socialists. The supporters of liberty and private property will need to pull together to win the ensuing political struggle. I'm a Misesian minarchist.",,Anonymous,D71AB1D4-3822-405A-826B-D7C736AC9CD4.jpg,wp6md0gjB1lCj2oLf9W97w==,US,,1510858343 149731643,149738599,2017-11-16 18:52:48,">>149738260 The ancient greeks talked at length about human autonomy you drunken slav.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510858368 149731643,149738660,2017-11-16 18:53:16,">>149738309 Piss of mate, I don't give a shit about the founding fathers I'm talking the Liberal forbears of the Liberty movement, who evolved their ideas of the decades and centuries. I don't give a shit if the first humans were tribalists or the first societies had religious aristocracies and kings, stop trying to appeal to the past without learning from it and forging your own path. You're a beta cuck that likes being told what to do it seems? I hope not mate. Individualism is THE greatest set of social ideas ever created, not our fault kids don't understand it when they're first introduced.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510858396 149731643,149738712,2017-11-16 18:53:44,">>149738309 As an AnCap, fuck the guy you're talking to, I prefer a whites only society. he can bitch about it being collectivism all he wants, he cant use force against me to stop it and be consistent",,Anonymous,White_Nation.jpg,IZH5oh46vH/LkvmhKwEkPw==,,,1510858424 149731643,149738774,2017-11-16 18:54:18,">>149738540 >presuming There's law in your daily interpersonal interactions - there are things you do and things you don't do as a matter of fact.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510858458 149731643,149738796,2017-11-16 18:54:25,">>149737962 You will build a house with who's material? The one you buy in store? What money will you use? The money society invented. From who will you buy land? All questions not compute in ancap universe. My skillsets are already building house and cutting down wood, planting garden and so on, i am more ancap than you ever will be. During Socialism here it was common for people to build their own houses, sometimes they had help from neighbors and neighbors and family traded stuff. We were least dependent on international capitalism in 1 year than you capitalists every day.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510858465 149731643,149738845,2017-11-16 18:54:52,">>149738540 Mises and Rothbard we're both cuck faggots pretending to rebel against the system while collecting a check from the system.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858492 149731643,149738964,2017-11-16 18:55:48,">>149738796 Anyone can make or exchange a currency slav.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510858548 149731643,149739012,2017-11-16 18:56:06,">>149738660 Property Rights > Abstract Indiviudalism dogma >Individualism and Group Interests https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do5eQ5tEoRk seriously give me your honest opinion on it, Im an ancap and disagree with the fetishization of individualism.",,Anonymous,Degeneracy2.png,6OTgUlNj/Vf9i0NUAMxYAw==,,,1510858566 149731643,149739014,2017-11-16 18:56:07,">>149738476 Marx was analyst, doesn't means he liked economic systems he analyzed.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510858567 149731643,149739086,2017-11-16 18:56:46,">>149738796 Buying things doesn't compute in anarcho-CAPITALISM? you're off your fucking rocker m8. whats your point?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510858606 149731643,149739155,2017-11-16 18:57:29,"How to stop combat the ""someone else will take care of it"" mentality How to ensure that everyone chips in their fair bit to build roads, defence, help the disabled etc. Anyone got any idea?",,Anonymous,,,IS,,1510858649 149731643,149739204,2017-11-16 18:57:57,">>149738210 It's naive to think that this will eliminate all supply and demand for immigration. Foreigners will still want to immigrate, there will still be demand for immigrants, and there will be no federal government to stop or even limit it.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510858677 149731643,149739212,2017-11-16 18:58:01,">>149738660 The ""forebears"" of the liberty movement were racialists AND white nationalists. John Locke is the father of modern liberalism. He is a racialists and a WN. Give me the name of any liberal/libertarians and will prove they are either racialists or WN.",,Anonymous,,,BE,,1510858681 149731643,149739284,2017-11-16 18:58:40,">>149738660 Dude, individualism is great for motivation and all but in game theory groups with heavy in-group bias and groupwork ALWAYS beat individuals working on their own terms. Not everyone is smart enough to live by their own standard, and require one to be made for them. This is why I believe in a loose ""confederation"" type of federal government, which enables states and individuals to manage their own lives and existence and allows for more intelligent/motivated/successful/capable etc. people to work hard unhindered and reap the fruits of their works, but those who have problems keeping up will at least have a basic foundation to build on. Ancapistan sounds great in theory sure, but not everyone is capable of residing in it and individuals with nefarious or selfish intentions will inevitably ruin it, the same way with government. I'm looking for the least imperfect solution in an imperfect world, and a confederation similar to what the founding fathers had in mind with various limitations and requirements for demographics, immigration, reducing welfare, border protection, and eliminating the irs among other things. My goal is more realistic than yours, unless you end up genociding half of africa and have white men move over in droves.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858720 149731643,149739290,2017-11-16 18:58:41,">>149738964 No you can't, because you need agreement of all people who will use your money and that money ain't money of another ancap guy. So you never come to an agreement and you money is useless without central currency authority. You can create your ancap money today, try and use it in store.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510858721 149731643,149739297,2017-11-16 18:58:47,">>149739014 Duh, still whats your point? we used a word that a famous communist used? Try that bullshit over at National SOCIALISM general and see if they dont laugh you out of there.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510858727 149731643,149739310,2017-11-16 18:58:54,">>149739014 You struggle with English.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510858734 149731643,149739354,2017-11-16 18:59:18,">>149739012 My individualism trumps your property rights. Your property cant shoot me in the face. I can shoot you in the face. Want to negotiate nigger?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858758 149731643,149739494,2017-11-16 19:00:31,">>149739290 >no you can't Yes; you can. Of course you need agreement to trade. You need agreement to trade a chicken for a hammer. Does that mean trading a chicken for a hammer isn't possible without state GOONS? No - it's the same for fucking currency.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510858831 149731643,149739502,2017-11-16 19:00:35,">>149739204 why would they want to immigrate? theres no minimum wage to undercut. theres no welfare to recieve, theres literally nothing there for them. theres NO MARKET INCENTIVE TO DO SO. and there is market incentives to protect ones territory, so its fucking dealt with.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510858835 149731643,149739538,2017-11-16 19:00:50,">>149739284 You are a dumb nigger. Pit your group against me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858850 149731643,149739629,2017-11-16 19:01:35,">>149739354 That has literally nothing to do with Philosophical individualism vs property rights. you're just shitposting.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510858895 149731643,149739679,2017-11-16 19:02:03,">>149739086 You are dependent on what they sell in store. Don't you get it? You buy what they sell. You pray to god they sell. You watch television they sell. You eat what they sell. There's no individualism in capitalism. The only individualism in capitalism is when you push dildo up your ass and scream on street some furry sounds. That's your right, other than that you eat, pray, work where society put your ass.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510858923 149731643,149739771,2017-11-16 19:02:52,">>149739679 >You pray to god they sell They pray to God you buy. TRADE GOES TWO WAYS DIPSHIT.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510858972 149731643,149739804,2017-11-16 19:03:05,">>149739629 It absolutely does, you're just too stupid of a nigger to realize it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510858985 149731643,149739898,2017-11-16 19:04:04,">>149739804 No - you're actually an inarticulate retard.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510859044 149731643,149739933,2017-11-16 19:04:15,">>149739538 >>149739804 Not an argument faggot. Come back to me when individuals beat groups successfully.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859055 149731643,149739952,2017-11-16 19:04:25,">>149739494 Not everybody eats hamburgers, but you probably do, because capitalism told you so, they brainwashed you to like it. In Indonesia they don't think about hamburgers or Jesus and eat different things.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510859065 149731643,149740030,2017-11-16 19:05:01,">>149739679 I dont give a shit about individualism, I understand that I will never be completely atomized, I dont even want that, I like family and community. I want to be part of society, Im not anti-social. whats the problem?",,Anonymous,1487113239550.png,ukPMZB9M8hnG4XoFxVqVpw==,,,1510859101 149731643,149740067,2017-11-16 19:05:18,">>149739898 Motherfucker I will put you in the ground and fuck your mom to create a replacement that isn't half the day you are.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859118 149731643,149740095,2017-11-16 19:05:32,">>149739284 What you're ignoring is that an individualist society isn't divided when fighting groups. A society is a society it is a group of people, a collectivist society divides in-groups and out-groups not just between nations but within a nation. A society that values Liberty unites all individuals in the society under the common banner, when one persons ""rights"" lets say are threatened the whole society comes to their aid.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859132 149731643,149740097,2017-11-16 19:05:34,">>149736361 Good luck getting off fb and yt, nigger.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1510859134 149731643,149740147,2017-11-16 19:06:06,">>149739933 I already said, come at me bitch and bring all your friends.>>149739952",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859166 149731643,149740168,2017-11-16 19:06:18,">>149740097 I dont do that stuff. I use the right-wing friendly alternatives.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859178 149731643,149740175,2017-11-16 19:06:20,">>149739771 So you are a prophet? Maybe if you are really charismatic you can become like Charles Manson.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510859180 149731643,149740202,2017-11-16 19:06:32,">>149739952 Not everybody is poor or drinks alcohol in excess, but you probably do, because everybody around you does and you're a an uncritical follower to the core of your being.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510859192 149731643,149740208,2017-11-16 19:06:33,Every 'ancap' I have ever spoken to is in favor of closed (state controlled) boarders.,,Anonymous,t23.jpg,+FvFR7qlaLPr/i3dWXXfPA==,GB,,1510859193 149731643,149740210,2017-11-16 19:06:34,">>149740147 Whats your home address?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859194 149731643,149740433,2017-11-16 19:08:22,">>149739502 >why would they want to immigrate? For the same reasons they do now, to get access to better opportunities, or just generally a better society. They might be fleeing a war-torn shithole, or they might just want a better job. They don't necessarily have to be under-cutting a minimum wage, they could still undercut the natural market price. It's okay to be an ancap, but if you're an ancap that thinks ancapistan will have secure borders then you are engaging in the same magical thinking that ancoms do.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510859302 149731643,149740442,2017-11-16 19:08:24,">>149740175 Charles Manson is a political prisoner of pedophile Jews. There are no prophets, only those who are good at projecting their will.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859304 149731643,149740577,2017-11-16 19:09:40,">>149740210 I'm not hiding my IP, if you were anyone important you'd already have it.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859380 149731643,149740578,2017-11-16 19:09:41,">>149740208 Private property functions as a border. If you and your neighbors all agree that you won't give Xyz allowance to go on your properties, Xyz is out of luck.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510859381 149731643,149740664,2017-11-16 19:10:21,">>149740433 Well I'll give you that, the conditions may be prosperous enough to attract others to come over sure, But theres literally nothing stopping a wealthy white man from buying up a lot of land an excluding them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859421 149731643,149740699,2017-11-16 19:10:40,">>149740168 That clearly solves fb, google, twitter and yt censorship problem.",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1510859440 149731643,149740724,2017-11-16 19:10:52,">>149739284 What I meant by my response is think of the differences between Egoism & Ancap, they are very different in the way they treat social interactions, society, rules, community, social responsibility and incentives etc and too many people are trying to paint Libertarianism with an Egoist brush just because they are both individualist ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859452 149731643,149740742,2017-11-16 19:11:02,">>149740578 Private property is a delusion. All of your leaders are psychopathic pedophiles which means as long as you allow it to persist everything you have is up for grabs.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859462 149731643,149740748,2017-11-16 19:11:08,">>149740577 I dont want your IP. You sad ""come at me"". where do you live? if you're close by I might actually do it.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859468 149731643,149740811,2017-11-16 19:11:34,">>149740578 You sound like an actual ancap. The ancap board on reddit is mostly alt-righters who favor state power when it suits them.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510859494 149731643,149740829,2017-11-16 19:11:42,">>149732324 jews r evul so wets giv them da powa ta use force.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859502 149731643,149740862,2017-11-16 19:11:57,">>149740699 Not using their platform does evade their reach of censorship.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859517 149731643,149740930,2017-11-16 19:12:34,">>149740748 Central PA. If youre willing to commit I'll give you further details.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859554 149731643,149740949,2017-11-16 19:12:44,">>149740811 Most people who say they're x usually don't know much about x, whatever x actually is.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510859564 149731643,149741011,2017-11-16 19:13:17,">>149731643 Property Rights... Get off my fucking board you lolbertarian faggot",,Anonymous,POLbird.jpg,aLqaSCXbFQdD8DnkA9S/4g==,US,,1510859597 149731643,149741035,2017-11-16 19:13:29,">>149740949 True.",,Anonymous,,,GB,,1510859609 149731643,149741061,2017-11-16 19:13:43,">>149740202 Why would i drink alcohol if i already implied i don't do what they want me to do. I just understand that capitalists don't create anything, that's all and will never create anything. The only thing capitalists do is enslave people and force them to work for them. We can do everything without all of us being employed by American inc. Investors aren't needed. It's the capitalists who enslaved this planet, you want freedomland liberty? But then why did you invent 10 times more laws than Socialism had and why do you need lawyers for every shit? Obviously you love bureaucracy complications, you just don't understand it because you hire a lawyer, you are oh so blind and brainwashed and here you are trying to convince me you want to be free from government. In Socialism we didn't need lawyers, we knew our laws. Capitalists don't know laws, they don't even know who their hired employer hired.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510859623 149731643,149741132,2017-11-16 19:14:20,">>149740095 Ahh. So what happens when successive generations who have little to no attachment to reasons which your hypothetical nation begin to slowly implement more and more government? Things change, and things collapse. Compare the US now to what it was founded as. People will be subverted against your ideology as time goes on, and the state (or country, whichever you prefer to call it) will eventually be corrupted over time. Ancapistan has no failsafes in place provided everything goes to shit. Yes, I fucking hate government and I hate government niggers, but at the end of the day it's never going to be successfully 100% abolished. I'm just being a realist. If you guys manage to set up some awesome society good on ya.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859660 149731643,149741190,2017-11-16 19:14:58,">>149740930 well shit, Im in New York. thats like what? 3-4 hour drive to kick some skinny neckbeards ass? I'll let you have this one, but still hand over that information. maybe we can get somthing going on.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510859698 149731643,149741277,2017-11-16 19:15:42,ITT: Intellectual light-weights attempt to debunk Anarcho-Capitalism.,,Anonymous,Post-Malone kek.png,pl3Eoq/XCoph/uTYs5UwQA==,,,1510859742 149731643,149741347,2017-11-16 19:16:29,">>149741061 >Why would i drink alcohol if i already implied i don't do what they want me to do Who the fuck is ""they""???? If someone wants you to enjoy stargazing, does that mean you're compelled to do your best to NOT enjoy stargazing???? What kind of nonsense are you spouting?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510859789 149731643,149741467,2017-11-16 19:17:28,">>149741277 Anarcho-Capitalism = invent 1000000 useless laws that all battle each other, so that there are holes in law system corporations can exploit and later claim they are individuals and that's their excuse they don't pay tax, when it was their original idea to even invent all this bureaucracy where they can hide.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510859848 149731643,149741481,2017-11-16 19:17:31,"AnCaps creating threads talking shit about NatSocs the last 3-5 days ON THE FUCKING NATSOC CONTAINMENT BOARD and then dares to want to talk about property rights? This is a NatSoc love thread now. Post your NatSoc love boys!",,Anonymous,1503907414302.png,HLHf1EqAoNdkGc5Emg4nMQ==,US,,1510859851 149731643,149741583,2017-11-16 19:18:25,>>149741481,,Anonymous,Pol (2).png,s2SOOkivQxCLKtmS5W/JCA==,,,1510859905 149731643,149741614,2017-11-16 19:18:43,,,Anonymous,1480108383335.jpg,CJQJtiq2E6qunCXo7likcg==,US,,1510859923 149731643,149741618,2017-11-16 19:18:44,">>149741347 Drink as much as you want, but make sure you don't scream at me when you are drunk.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510859924 149731643,149741636,2017-11-16 19:18:51,">>149741481 >>149741583",,Anonymous,Best_Pals.png,3ldWWfoSbpbxjOAWhRyRTQ==,,,1510859931 149731643,149741680,2017-11-16 19:19:08,">>149741190 I'll give it up like prom if youre in the area. I'm not trying to be Anon, I'm just not trying to advertise.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510859948 149731643,149741692,2017-11-16 19:19:16,">ancraps will defend this Ancraps are 100% mentally ill. Not only has your ideology never worked IRL, it's impossible to work IRL - because a class will always create a state to enforce their class interests. The closest approximations to your ideology IRL have also been catastrophic. Deregulated capitalism starting in the Reagan era is responsible for massive de-industrialization, and the transition to a low-wage economy.",,Anonymous,wealth-and-inequality.gif,gdHNSUZEGLoVvJ6FcIhU+Q==,US,,1510859956 149731643,149741779,2017-11-16 19:20:10,">>149741132 > slowly implement more and more government? Things change, and things collapse When happens when I apply fire to cold water? It's no longer cold. Societies and cultures shift that's just a fact of life, what happens when a democracy has 95% Liberal White Westerners? What happens when that democracy has 95% illiberal Brown Muslims? It's not even an issue with a theory, it's just a given. > no failsafes Not necessarily, if we ever win the argument or attempt a stateless society I genuinely am of the belief that it will be an example that most people won't want to go back to, just like no one but small internet minorities want to return to Monarchism or all sorts of other random shit. > being a realist Maybe but I don't think it's realism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510860010 149731643,149741791,2017-11-16 19:20:21,">>149741692 >some people having more x than other people is Is what? Immoral? Wrong?",,Praceteom,,,,,1510860021 149731643,149742063,2017-11-16 19:22:48,">>149741467 Lol holy shit, even David Friedman and Stefan Molyneux addressed this a decade ago do you even stop to think before you speak? Like actually think something through and how people would react in reality?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510860168 149731643,149742133,2017-11-16 19:23:32,">>149741481 I love you too. You know a lot of people just swap flags to shit post yeah? Are you new?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510860212 149731643,149742194,2017-11-16 19:24:07,">>149741680 As fun as it would be to get a beer with you and then kick your ass, I'll have to bow out. respect though. you dont seem like a fag.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510860247 149731643,149742200,2017-11-16 19:24:08,">>149741618 Your English isn't sufficient to have a conversation on non-trivial subject matter.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510860248 149731643,149742305,2017-11-16 19:25:04,">>149742063 So what if they addressed it? Bible addressed many sins, but still they rape the most children. I don't care what people say, i only care about good military run country where they can arrest people very fast, starting with capitalists, since unrestrained money is root of all evil.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510860304 149731643,149742331,2017-11-16 19:25:18,,,Anonymous,hitler-toast.jpg,lV8+65f+zqXl2KveY8NrYA==,US,,1510860318 149731643,149742357,2017-11-16 19:25:35,Any good books to read about libertarianism?,,Anonymous,,,,,1510860335 149731643,149742570,2017-11-16 19:27:45,">>149742357 Man Economy and State for something comprehensive. Bastiat's ""The Law"" that's a short and compact ""why state buffoonery fucks everything"" summation.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510860465 149731643,149742581,2017-11-16 19:27:51,">>149742305 > since unrestrained money is root of all evil. > money represents resources & human labour > surprised people want to control and find resources and human labour important, especially the medium of exchange that represents those things and gives people acces to it My free market military > bloated military industrial complex.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510860471 149731643,149742595,2017-11-16 19:27:56,">>149741481 I too hate the anti-NatSoc propaganda. >hurrr National Socialism is leftwing fucking neck yourselves you faggots",,Anonymous,D1BD3474-FC83-4BE2-A7D3-4464D4C93F85.png,np3q2NBDG6JBqSmDskxH3w==,,,1510860476 149731643,149742803,2017-11-16 19:29:46,">>149742194 Kicking my ass accomplishes nothing. I am beyond the physical realm. I've been a ninja for the past 30 years and no one ever thought anything of me. You're all fucked. Your systems are so vulnerable. You are impotent before me.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510860586 149731643,149742864,2017-11-16 19:30:22,">>149742357 Always go the small concise powerful books first imo. The Law by Bastiat is about 60 odd pages of actual content, very charismatic writer fucking hilarious for a frenchy and Rothbard's Anatomy of the State is a good 60 pages also, very short books good intros. Bastiat is the guy that wrote the candlemakers petition to block out the sun to take the piss out of french politicians and Rothbard is Rothbard.",,Anonymous,Bastiat_Govt_Great_Fiction.jpg,jKQIgPYgE/NdZoSiz+MzRg==,,,1510860622 149731643,149742982,2017-11-16 19:31:27,"People san Anarcho-capitalism has never been tried, but that's a lie. Under Boris Yeltsin, the government of Russia was almost non-existent and the economy underwent massive privatization. Thanks to Papa Boris, Russia overcame its brutal Communist terror. Finally, Russia's people lived in freedom. Yeltsin is basically worshipped in Russia right now - so people who say Ancaps have never done anything IRL are full of shit.",,Anonymous,Yeltsin22_gallery__470x370.jpg,7dRki+xVqFfF9B5om4vfTA==,,,1510860687 149731643,149743248,2017-11-16 19:33:54,">>149742982 The Russians will be over thrown internally by the people of Yakutia.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510860834 149731643,149743299,2017-11-16 19:34:28,">>149742982 Almost every human's normal everyday life is anarchic. Virtually all of your interactions with others are voluntary in nature.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510860868 149731643,149743337,2017-11-16 19:34:44,">>149742581 I really don't think you want good for mankind, lets stop pretending you are anything else than inflator and enslaver. There's no freedom in trying to take away people's land and property in name of some free market. Nobody but those born on this land and of right race will ever be true owners of this land. Anybody else, even if paying billions is nothing but a thief. Not even after thousands of years will it be forgotten, some day, even if our race is 0.001% of rightful race, rebellion will happen. Capitalists don't own a single thing, everything belongs to original people. Capitalistic freedom doesn't exists, everything where capitalistic freedom is created will result in war some day, since property belongs to people born on land and of correct race, nothing will ever change this fact. That's not just biology, evolution, that's common sense.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510860884 149731643,149743595,2017-11-16 19:37:13,">>149739204 Leaf man, tell me, what is worse, to have immigrants come and compete with locals for societal acceptance and integration into the labor market or to have an absolute state that keeps track of everything? Because if ancaps have their way the former will happen, if nationalists have their way, the latter. Which do you think would lead to more problems?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510861033 149731643,149743615,2017-11-16 19:37:20,">>149743299 I wouldn't insist on being an anarchist if they didn't try so damn hard to brainwash me to the contrary.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510861040 149731643,149743872,2017-11-16 19:39:45,">>149743595 I think you all should be put to the sword and I'll do everything in my power to ensure it happens.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510861185 149731643,149743995,2017-11-16 19:40:55,">>149743615 Good thing you're an anarchist and state goons try to brainwash you then.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510861255 149731643,149744042,2017-11-16 19:41:18,">>149743337 > take away people's land and property in name of some free market. How is recognizing, valuing and upholding property rights the same thing as taking peoples property? Free market doesn't take property the free market is simply people interacting............ >>149743299 Checked.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510861278 149731643,149744243,2017-11-16 19:43:15,Guys...why didn't we listen?,,Anonymous,7ba.png,bJGmVFrV5orTcrXuRMfNgA==,,,1510861395 149731643,149744270,2017-11-16 19:43:30,">>149743872 Even let the joouce dominate your society under the guise of whatever orange man you elect and erect 1984 levels of surveillance on your daily burgering?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510861410 149731643,149744514,2017-11-16 19:45:35,Can the photoshop gods of /pol/ replace this commie flag with a beautiful black and gold ancap flag please?,,Anonymous,revoulutionary.jpg,K4rW8g7mF7TfV6tZxybWOQ==,US,,1510861535 149731643,149744773,2017-11-16 19:47:30,">>149744042 Humanity should learn by now what every insect/animal/tree knows, which is: every land grab and mixing of different races/species will eventually result in war, if not now, then in 20, 100 or 3000 years, but it will happen, since that's genetics, biology, evolution, common sense. I just fear that this world will burn so very much in future and maybe even somebody will invent race specific viruses, since that's really needed for humans to learn as it seems, which they haven't learned in thousands of years through kingdoms. Land belongs to people of land, very simple. Property nonsense isn't logical, it's stealing. One doesn't needs to buy own land, own water and in future own air. That simply belongs to me as organism of this planet. If there are too many organisms and too many colliding organisms that very greatly devalues respect, which can only result in some kind of madness. Big cities with different models of property charges are especially known for very crazy people and they will get crazier the more they squeeze and breathe different race air.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510861650 149731643,149744779,2017-11-16 19:47:33,">>149744514 Please.",,Anonymous,205.jpg,O8vB+hDAaEonTk6YJ27a4Q==,,,1510861653 149731643,149744880,2017-11-16 19:48:32,">>149744773 Land belongs to individuals, your collectivism is vapid and meaningless to me. It's arbitrary as fuck because of the fact that it ignores actual human character and actions.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510861712 149731643,149745001,2017-11-16 19:49:34,">>149744773 The absolute state of slavs - eternal unreflective idiocy and not enough proficiency in a philosophically relevant language to even possibly learn otherwise.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510861774 149731643,149745125,2017-11-16 19:50:32,">>149743595 I don't feel the need to pick between ancap and natsoc The fact that ancapistan wouldn't have secure borders is just one of many problems with anarcho-capitalism, but it was the one I decided to post about in this thread To kind of answer your question I believe in democracy and the way I vote is much more in the direction of ancap than it is to natsoc",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510861832 149731643,149745140,2017-11-16 19:50:37,">>149744880 Collective is nothing but lots of private owners who decide to finance some common things by voting if they need it. If you don't want you can always buy land alone and build your own electric generator and invent own water, because careful: water flows underground, you might touch my collective water, that's an offense. Invent your own water and don't breathe my collective air.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510861837 149731643,149745423,2017-11-16 19:53:04,">>149745140 > you can always buy land alone and build your own electric generator and invent own water I'll tell you this once since you seem to have a fatal misunderstanding of liberty. Libertarianism is not egoism, individualism means upholding individual sovereignty NOT abolishing society and community, Capitalism breeds the ultimate cooperation between complete strangers all around the world for the first time in history through mutual benefit (win-win) interactions rather than plunder (win-lose). Don't conflate us with egoists.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510861984 149731643,149745425,2017-11-16 19:53:04,">>149731643 Liberal-socialist-militarist-internationalist-imperialist-something here. Our differences can be resolved through dispute and language, but the Nazi threat must be taken by bayonet in absolute unity between nations and ideals.",,Anonymous,0 percent mad.jpg,XM+OOnrEp3CkNlsqVafuBg==,,,1510861984 149731643,149745482,2017-11-16 19:53:31,">>149745001 What's eternal unreflective idiocy? Capitalism. We created more in 50 years Socialism than USA capitalism. After 100 years of USA you were still playing cowboys and Indians in sand when we already had everything.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510862011 149731643,149745809,2017-11-16 19:56:16,">>149745482 Capitalism is literally people owning their own property using it as they will in trade rather than state agents who violently take property from other people and tell others what they can or can't do under threat. If you make a fishing pole and trade it someone else for a chicken you just engaged in capitalism.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510862176 149731643,149745874,2017-11-16 19:56:44,">>149745423 I know that some screaming clown's liberty is damage to my ears. More of your liberty we get more police just warns loud morons, who they should be arresting and beating up in prison until town is free of crime because everybody is afraid to do crime, then maybe you can lower the sentence for screaming and stealing, since it becomes less frequent. But when you have lots of drug dealers, loudmouth idiots on street, then you should beat them up aka increase sentence. Adapt to environment.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510862204 149731643,149746181,2017-11-16 19:59:25,">>149745809 No, capitalism is literally chasing profits at all costs, selling to highest bidder. You must mean liberal democracy with firm government anti-corruption overseeing. People aren't good on their own. You can't leave a guy in front of unprotected bank safe and expect him to not steal.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510862365 149731643,149746222,2017-11-16 19:59:46,">>149745482 > We created more in 50 years Socialism than USA capitalism. After 100 years of USA you were still playing cowboys and Indians in sand when we already had everything. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL",,Anonymous,CommiesBTFO.jpg,F2aZfysoegTG26o0KDoLgA==,,,1510862386 149731643,149746453,2017-11-16 20:01:38,">>149746181 >firm government anti-corruption THIS NIGGER",,Anonymous,,,NL,,1510862498 149731643,149746477,2017-11-16 20:01:52,">>149745423 Still, shouldn't capitalism be imposed certain limits and taxes, without the violation of the right for free trade, to improve the quality of life of the people and to prevent crisis such as depressions, monopolies, civil rights violations and environmental disasters while promoting the protection and satisfaction of the consumer?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510862512 149731643,149746520,2017-11-16 20:02:10,">>149746181 There's no rule that says you have to sell to the highest bidder. Most people just choose to, because why wouldn't you?",,Anonymous,capitalism.png,3gdxllAa68PNJ5Z75MGUxg==,CA,,1510862530 149731643,149746554,2017-11-16 20:02:23,"We have remained too tranquil for too long. If we are to get our freedom back, all non-libertarians must die. You can either accept this, and reclaim what has been rightfully yours since your birth, or reject it, and cower while the state continues to steal your money and brainwash your children.",,Anonymous,1510798867374.jpg,TfrIgJ402m8u7lFAnI5bxA==,,,1510862543 149731643,149746693,2017-11-16 20:03:41,">>149746477 No, we can solve those problems much better outside of a bureacratic democratic apparatus. I can't think of any of those characters the state actually succeeded in; they manufacture economic crises, create monopolies, violate rights and destroy the environment...",,Anonymous,,,,,1510862621 149731643,149746723,2017-11-16 20:03:57,">>149746181 Capitalism says nothing about people's values or what they do - it's a descriptive word that denotes trade is conducted mutually by private owners RATHER than the state controlling things.",,Praceteom,capitalism.png,upcGuLddNOJAWDBn9JwpLQ==,,,1510862637 149731643,149746794,2017-11-16 20:04:42,">>149746181 >people aren't good on their own >unless they're in a government!",,Anonymous,,,,,1510862682 149731643,149746805,2017-11-16 20:04:47,">>149746222 >GDP Wow you really are stupid. USA can increase their GDP with hay companies of nonexistence and inflation. Inventing 10000 companies that are intermediary money businesses doesn't creates a thing. GDP measurement is bullshit and besides you literally were poor country before WW1. What have you proven anyway with that picture, that Commies were better than tsars? Yes, that's what you proven.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510862687 149731643,149746838,2017-11-16 20:05:07,">>149746181 >capitalism is only about profits > government >anti-corruption lamao >people aren't good on their own >but the government made up of people is",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510862707 149731643,149747132,2017-11-16 20:07:59,">>149732057 I dont have to do drugs you know. Aside from caffeine and ocasional amphetemines and THC I have no intentions of doing hard drugs.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510862879 149731643,149747356,2017-11-16 20:10:10,">>149732324 Rand wasnt even an ancap. She was very pro capitalist, but not an ancap. Also there are plenty of non-jewish ancap philosphers and economists. But even then why does that even matter to you?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863010 149731643,149747386,2017-11-16 20:10:33,">>149746453 >>149746520 >>149746723 >>149746794 >>149746838 London is Muslim because they sold to highest bidder. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04/05/panama-papers-david-cameron-forced-to-declare-tax-affairs-amid-o/ >The UAE's ruling family has been buying up property in London for more than a decade. >Panama Papers: offshore firm set up by Cameron's father was moved to Ireland in year son became PM Panama businessmen and owners of London: >Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson - Prime Minister of Iceland (Progressive Party (Iceland) Centre-right, Euroscepticism) >Mauricio Macri - President of Argentina (Republican Proposal party, Centre-right, Conservative liberalism) >Petro Poroshenko - President of Ukraine (Ukraine oligarch) >Salman bin Abdulaziz al-Saud - King of Saudi Arabia (Muslim) >Ayad Allawi - Former Prime Minister of Iraq (Muslim) >Bidzina Ivanishvili - Former Prime Minister of Georgia (Georgian Dream political party, catch-all party, Pro-Europeanism) >Ali Abu al-Ragheb - Former Prime Minister of Jordan (Muslim) >Hamad bin Jassim bin Jaber al-Thani - Former Prime Minister of Qatar (Muslim) >Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani - Former Emir of Qatar (Muslim) >Ahmad Ali al-Mirghani - Former President of Sudan (Muslim) >Khalifa bin Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan - President of United Arab Emirates (Muslim) >Pavlo Lazarenko - Former Prime Minister of Ukraine (Ukraine oligarch) http://indianexpress.com/article/world/world-news/panama-papers-inside-the-offshore-factory-of-mossack-secret-fonseca/ >The documents make it clear that major banks are big drivers behind the creation of hard-to-trace companies in the British Virgin Islands, Panama and other offshore havens. The files list nearly 15,600 paper companies that banks set up for clients who want to keep their finances under wraps >MF is more than just a law firm. In offshore parlance, it is a service provider, a wealth manager, a private banker, an accounting firm, all rolled into one.",,Anonymous,capitalism Trump Saudi Arabia.webm,JGRVcnoY3DlWbbS4xf6J5w==,SI,,1510863033 149731643,149747438,2017-11-16 20:10:56,">>149747386 You didn't even respond to a word I said.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510863056 149731643,149747538,2017-11-16 20:11:58,">>149746554 I believe the state is absolutely essential to retain the prosperity of mankind (which capitalism brings) and its safety. However there has to be a means for the people to retain control of government without degenerating into corrupt bureaucracies. I have some ideas for this: -Absolutely, the right to bear arms with certain limitations such as background checks and psychological testing, but equal or superior to those of the armed forces. Politicians fear nothing more than an armed revolt. Exceptions such as explosive ordnance or WMDs. -A figure of enlightenment and guidance to serve side by side with a democratic body, an emperor if you will. Chosen from the best of the best humanity has to offer. -The constitutional protection of the people from propaganda, an obligation of the state for transparency and the right of the people to receive non-biased, complete and objective education including education in logic to prevent them from being deceived.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863118 149731643,149747692,2017-11-16 20:13:30,">>149746693 How can those problems be solved when facing extremely powerful individuals whose greed has moved the invisible hand to their favour?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863210 149731643,149747710,2017-11-16 20:13:40,">>149746805 Fuck you are saltier than a cracker. You know the US outproduced literally everyone in WW2 combined?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863220 149731643,149747728,2017-11-16 20:13:51,">>149747438 Capitalism is do anything for money, which is pissing on anybody's individualism or property, so don't claim your ancap capitalists have a common ground. Capitalism has the same meaning as theft.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510863231 149731643,149747815,2017-11-16 20:14:29,">>149732652 No Ancap argues this. We argue that if everyone where to try to helping/satisfying our selves first then far fewer people would be unsatisfied. >>149732761 The individual has control over their own boarders. Plus the verbal threat of violence is enough to violate the NAP and justify a murder in self defense.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863269 149731643,149747905,2017-11-16 20:15:15,">>149747728 >Capitalism is do anything for money NO. IT ISN'T. I *LITERALLY* GAVE YOU THE DEFINITION AND TOLD YOU WHY YOU'RE INCORRECT.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510863315 149731643,149747948,2017-11-16 20:15:36,">>149747905 capitalism is evil sry",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510863336 149731643,149748067,2017-11-16 20:16:44,">>149747905 Stop falling for the bait mate. Gotta have a keen eye around here.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863404 149731643,149748099,2017-11-16 20:17:04,">>149747386 >Governments selling out there people in secret deals >Calls this capitalism That sounds like transfering a country worth of slaves to the saudies. There was no volunetary consent to the transfer anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863424 149731643,149748103,2017-11-16 20:17:07,">>149747905 See:>>149747386 That's what capitalism is, gotta pay your debts.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510863427 149731643,149748194,2017-11-16 20:18:06,">>149748067 No, I think this guy is sincere. His English is just REALLY bad and he's brainwashed as all fuck.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510863486 149731643,149748425,2017-11-16 20:20:02,">>149748103 >That's THERE IS NO DEFINITION OF ANYTHING IN THAT POST. >>149746723 IS LITERALLY THE COLLOQUIAL EVERYDAY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT CAPITALISM *ACTUALLY MEANS*.",,Praceteom,1487949426999.png,pfF4EkpsVn+IPtCPnGiGEA==,,,1510863602 149731643,149748436,2017-11-16 20:20:13,">>149748099 No, you don't read, government is infiltrated by capitalists, since government should never allow private property and should never allow foreigner buyers and should never allow private money colluding into government. Now who's idea was it to privatize, invite foreigner investors and to collude private money with government. CAPITALIST'S IDEA. Every European country was doing relatively good after they gone all out for full-blown capitalism and especially free market, since it's free market that has no restrictions on race, doesn't even checks if it gets money from criminals.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510863613 149731643,149748520,2017-11-16 20:21:05,">>149747905 What'ya mean? His English is phenominal, he's clearly a widely read deep thinking intellectual mate.",,Anonymous,1507767805062.gif,w+WRmlpxMZlbkRXIMUovTg==,,,1510863665 149731643,149748573,2017-11-16 20:21:38,">>149748425 there are a ton of libertarian-oriented people opposed to private property ever ehard of communal property?",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510863698 149731643,149748715,2017-11-16 20:23:00,">>149748573 As long as you do it voluntarily I really don't care what you do. But you wanting to share amongst yourselves does not extend to people who want you to leave the house they built and the yard they tend to alone.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510863780 149731643,149748793,2017-11-16 20:23:44,">>149748194 I'm 100% sure he's taking the piss on you.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863824 149731643,149748836,2017-11-16 20:24:07,">>149748715 taht fucking defeats the point of building a society based on communal property",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510863847 149731643,149748950,2017-11-16 20:25:05,">>149748520 Why did Stefan Molyneux escape to foreign country and why doesn't he creates his own site? Why does he need to be in foreigner country and use foreigner web site? I though you ancap capitalists don't need anybody and yet you fly like flies on honey to anything served to you as popular trend. Refugees also can't create anything on their own, which is why they go to Germany. Africa is full of anarchy capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510863905 149731643,149748972,2017-11-16 20:25:15,">>149745125 I see. Have you ever encountered the arguments that democracy is a broken system that invariably leads to the problems our societies currently face and that it is immoral?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510863915 149731643,149748992,2017-11-16 20:25:26,">>149748836 It defeats *LIBERTARIANISM ITSELF* when you *VIOLENTLY* co-opt them into shit they want nothing to do with.",,Praceteom,1371753472577.png,TMhg8+7z9dV3YdchluAeiA==,,,1510863926 149731643,149749047,2017-11-16 20:25:58,">>149732057 >>149732324 >>149732675 >>149732994 >>149733860 >>149737231 >>149738009 >>149741011 >>149741481 >>149747948 Reminder that for every second you let subhuman scum like these people live, you lose one second of liberty. Death to the enemies of liberty! Hail Hoppe!",,Anonymous,1510540061003.png,ksVx8FzAH8gD4VmvNUjWTg==,,,1510863958 149731643,149749101,2017-11-16 20:26:25,">>149748992 individualism without restrictions is cancer and you know it stop living in a fantasy",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510863985 149731643,149749106,2017-11-16 20:26:28,">>149748436 >Govt is ran by evil prokies >Therfor thats why we are failing Nope. Firstly governments rule on private property superseeds that of the indvidual owner, especially in the EU. Secondly the reason why your country is failing is because of the alturerir social marxist agenda to get rid of european people and its culture, and to become 1:1 in culture and people of that modern middle east and north africa. Its honestly closer to some wierd form of communism than capitalistic.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510863988 149731643,149749202,2017-11-16 20:27:15,">>149749047 >you let subhuman scum live Why are you relying on others to kill people? I thought you don't need others.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510864035 149731643,149749250,2017-11-16 20:27:40,">>149749101 >is cancer You know what's more cancer? Aggressive violence against peaceful people who just want to be left alone. There's absolutely nothing libertarian about people who'd support that in ANY case.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510864060 149731643,149749295,2017-11-16 20:28:00,">>149748950 are we violating anyones consent?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510864080 149731643,149749349,2017-11-16 20:28:31,">>149748950 > why does a canadian need to be in Canadia > why won't he create his own site like Freedomainradio dot cum > don't need anybody Cunt listen here I already told you before, stop confusing Egoism with Libertarianism you idiot. You're literally the dumbest cunt on this website and everyone knows it. Listen, I'm going to go on a holiday to Russia now, fuck a blonde and a brunette and knock them up so some beta cuck Russian can raise them hopefully on the public dollar until your inbred retarded society fucking collapses again. Much love.",,Anonymous,1507768035314.gif,jW/ipacIcHaIODMtoVc9zg==,,,1510864111 149731643,149749377,2017-11-16 20:28:43,">>149749202 >I thought you don't need others. I don't.",,Anonymous,Snekshot.png,QUyMaMKYW1effKr0aSSIPg==,,,1510864123 149731643,149749567,2017-11-16 20:30:21,">>149736417 >gives as examples a bunch of state given monopolies Try and build your own road, see who stops you.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510864221 149731643,149749712,2017-11-16 20:31:41,">>149749349 He was born in Ireland and he is on YouTube. Why does he increases value of YouTube and Canada? He should create his own country with own ISP internet and charge 1000 dollars to open up his page or go back to Ireland.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510864301 149731643,149749809,2017-11-16 20:32:34,">>149749250 yes you are right its totally bigger priority to stop violence which has existed through the entirety of history and around which literally the entire planet and all on it was formed than create an actually functioning society (that would hurt someones fee fees)",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510864354 149731643,149749960,2017-11-16 20:33:51,">>149748972 Yes, but they aren't very good.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510864431 149731643,149750072,2017-11-16 20:34:43,">>149749349 >confusing Slovenia with Russia kys",,Anonymous,,,,,1510864483 149731643,149750122,2017-11-16 20:35:13,">>149749712 That's not Libertarian, that's Egoism. Neither is Africa, which is a failed socialist continent, most regulated continent on earth with competing warlords (kangz).",,Anonymous,,,,,1510864513 149731643,149750191,2017-11-16 20:35:41,">>149749809 What's more important than living peacefully and prosperously in a moral vacuum??? You think something other than peace and prosperity are so important you're willing to cause pain and suffering to peaceful individuals who have never done you or anyone else wrong in order to see it realized? How in all hell are you different than the statist goons who want to see everyone else subjected to their arbitrary whim and to leech off of others for their own interests????",,Praceteom,,,,,1510864541 149731643,149750288,2017-11-16 20:36:35,">>149741692 What a mess of """"""""arguments"""""". Your image shows the result of state intervention in the economy. Who said GM was ""too big to fail""? It sure fucking wasn't the market. >reagan >deregulated Barely, and increased state spending like crazy. You want to see a good, small start to deregulation, new zealand did a bit of it around 20 years ago.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510864595 149731643,149750315,2017-11-16 20:36:56,">>149750072 I'm drunk at work on a friday, do I give a shit? They all sound the same ITT.",,Anonymous,1510634593249.jpg,wA3D8/gdYQIGalflYvp2dg==,,,1510864616 149731643,149750453,2017-11-16 20:38:18,">>149750191 >living peacefully and prosperously in a moral vacuum you are a pacifist who leeches off libertarians' helicopter reputation for popularity lol if you aren't willing to right for the right thing and everything you care about is fucking security by material means you should off yourself",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510864698 149731643,149750489,2017-11-16 20:38:40,">>149749960 You think so?",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510864720 149731643,149750620,2017-11-16 20:39:48,">>149750122 So is Socialism again to blame for monetary capitalism and private banks in Africa? There is no collectivism in Africa, especially not banking. Is Socialism again to blame for London new baked millionaires who sold land and property to Muslims and oligarchs? If you know anything about business whatsoever at least pay up billions to those starving Socialists in Africa or pay Socialists in London, else fuck off with your dumb blame games. Socialists and Communists didn't make money in Africa or London. Capitalists are such a big liars that they never take responsibility, if they did then London would improve and white people wouldn't be minority. You want me to be guilty? Send me billions first.",,Anonymous,,,SI,,1510864788 149731643,149750778,2017-11-16 20:41:00,">>149750453 The right thing is LITERALLY to *NOT* fight and to OBEY GOD if we're going to bring in outside moral axioms. Insofar as you disobey God and violate peaceful people, you're going to hell because you can't have Grace for things you're utterly unrepentant about.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510864860 149731643,149750851,2017-11-16 20:41:49,">>149750778 nope its not, only in moronic pacifist's brains grow up and learn that you eventuallyhave to fight for what's right you sheltered kid",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510864909 149731643,149751069,2017-11-16 20:43:49,">>149750851 I have salvation in Christ - I don't have to hurt anyone and I never will have to hurt anyone. Meanwhile you're not even a libertarian, let alone a Christian. Hell isn't pleasant.",,Praceteom,1413520024086.gif,QCMm8RX4MF2Asbbnv0WZkg==,,,1510865029 149731643,149751441,2017-11-16 20:47:26,">>149751069 no you dont because christ wasnt a pacifist liberal faggot",,Anonymous,,,HR,,1510865246 149731643,149751548,2017-11-16 20:48:19,">>149731643 Should we Ancaps create what is good or bad? Or should we use God's standards of what is good or bad? There was a reason why Adam and Eve lost their immortality; deciding for themselves what is good or bad. For instance, they wear clothes even though god never said being naked was bad or they felt shame when they would be seen to God naked. That's what I mean for deciding what's good or bad not ""under circumstances"". Also, if it is God's standards, then the book is a strict constitution just like how the Right views the U.S. Constitution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510865299 149731643,149751608,2017-11-16 20:48:53,">>149750620 I would say yes, socialism is to blame. Socialism is power and wealth to the elite while everyone else accepts their scraps. That is how it has been in every socialist and communist country that has ever existed. Those elites just tell the ignorant peasants that socialism is free stuff for everyone so they will buy into being oppressed. Anyone that is for socialism either wants to oppress everyone else, or they are to dumb to see that they are being played. Never trust a rich person selling socialism ie Bernie ie Hillary ie Obama",,Anonymous,,,US,,1510865333 149731643,149751609,2017-11-16 20:48:54,">>149751441 Christ is God and can judge men. MEANWHILE, your LITERAL COMMANDMENTS SPOKEN FROM GOD TO YOU ARE: ""Love your enemy and pray for those who persecute you.” ( Mt 5.44 , Lu 6.27 , Lu 6.3 ) “Do not use force against an evil man.” ( Mt 5.39 ) “Do not resist evil with evil.” “Forgive and you will be forgiven.” (Lu 6.37 ) “Do not be anxious about your life.”( Lu 12.22 ) “In everything do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Mat 7.12 ) And from Paul saying intelligent - >“Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”",,Praceteom,,,,,1510865334 149731643,149751686,2017-11-16 20:49:34,">>149750620 You can't put a flaming torch to a pot of water and scream ""SEE! SEE! Cold Water burns people!!!"". You know deep down that Africa was torn apart by Socialism and then exploited by world governments, and a bunch of competeing Kangz are not Libertarians. It's not a lie and we won't take responsbility for the failures of collectivism. > no collectivism in Africa HAHAHAHAHAHA! They're literally killing eachother over religions, tribes, skin colour and all manner of collectivist categories....please mate, please wtf are you on about?",,Anonymous,tr4jweq.png,8AwW3ZBd9eWYxq8368Em8Q==,,,1510865374 149731643,149751759,2017-11-16 20:50:08,">>149751548 >Should we Ancaps create what is good or bad? You can try, probably will fail, if it doesn't stick you can't force it on anybody and that's that.",,Anonymous,,,BR,,1510865408 149731643,149751872,2017-11-16 20:51:16,">>149733916 Careful how much time you spend stuck in books. The principles of liberty are simple, they can be explained to a 5 year old. It's past time to put the books away and take our message to the streets.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510865476 149731643,149752109,2017-11-16 20:53:27,">>149751069 >>149750851 I actually have to agree with the troll here, pacifist revolt has a very limited use in specific circumstances and usually with little impact. Armed threat, or in the direst of circumstances armed revolt by the people, is the greater option.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510865607 149731643,149752278,2017-11-16 20:55:06,">>149732713 The British Coats of Arms placed imaginary creatures like the ""Dragon"" and the ""Unicorn"". I believe you too much sugar tea drinking assholes sit to another board or get rekt by my ""Imaginary Idealogy"".",,Anonymous,,,,,1510865706 149731643,149752318,2017-11-16 20:55:30,">>149751872 It's significantly easier to explain non-aggression to a five year old than to the average adult who is unreflective, uninterested, and more often than not inculcated with propagandistic nonsense. >>149752109 I'm a DCT moral adherent - my ethics are deontological and not consequentialist in the slightest. I don't care what happens - I care about doing what's right.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510865730 149731643,149752760,2017-11-16 20:59:25,">>149751872 True that, I actually fell way behind and totally stopped reading Libertarian, Marxist and Fascist books because I realized spreading ideas is about persuasion and sales. These books are more for my personal development & enjoyment, I've read a bunch of them online so far.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510865965 149731643,149752848,2017-11-16 21:00:12,">>149735190 The borders that you're talking about are managed by private property owners. If the privately owned property doesn't allow trespassers and need to ask a consent before coming in then no one can come in till they get consent. There you stupid libtard cuckold nonexistant country.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510866012 149731643,149753013,2017-11-16 21:01:45,">>149752318 Yes but the principles are no different. I don't win arguments with statists by quoting the scripture of libertarian writing, so to speak. I win with dead simple arguments about life, liberty, and property. I think the liberty movement has been stuck in philosophical book-world for decades. Where's my local meetup? (Start one)",,Anonymous,,,,,1510866105 149731643,149753360,2017-11-16 21:04:47,">>149752318 I'm very consequentialist, but can absolutely respect deontological thinking. Most people who believe in consequentialism don't fully take into account the consequences of their actions, and whether or not the final result was worth it. Very hard to do, but I consider it a duty of every person. For example, in the classic issue of the Nagasaki | Hiroshima bombings. I believe they were right because the immeasurable pain and suffering brought upon, I believe, was less than what an invasion of Japan and an occupation of Korea and possibly Hokkaido by the Soviets would have brought. It's a very ugly thing, but sometimes we have to do ugly things even when we really don't want to.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510866287 149731643,149753457,2017-11-16 21:05:44,">>149752848 So are you fine with ancapistan being flooded with foreigners as long as they stay off your property? Because you don't have any guarantee that property owners other than yourself will be opposed to immigration, and simply looking at the varied opinions people have in a democracy should tell you that there would be plenty of people that do not oppose and even encourage mass immigration",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510866344 149731643,149753486,2017-11-16 21:06:02,">>149753013 >I don't win arguments with statists by quoting the scripture of libertarian writing If you frame ""winning"" in terms of convincing the statist, we generally don't ""win"" at all. I can tell you I prefer book-world to actually talking to uninterested strangers about liberty, because at least the book's eyes don't glaze over in disinterest. You generally need to be in an intellectual setting for strangers to even ponder the arguments you give them. In everyday life they're simply not interested.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510866362 149731643,149753592,2017-11-16 21:07:03,">>149753360 I think it would have been a pretty simple matter to not invade Japan. That seems to me to be the rather blatantly obvious correct moral option.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510866423 149731643,149753612,2017-11-16 21:07:11,Would you ancap chaps accept a global government if a territory with a written constitution following anarcho-capitalist ideas was established for the sake of science?,,Anonymous,,,,,1510866431 149731643,149753630,2017-11-16 21:07:20,">>149750620 I know the africa is a primitive contitent meme is gunny. But there are actual societies in africa. Even socialist ones, specifically Somalia (Prior to collapse) and Kenya (Today) are examples of socialist african countries. Somalia fell into a multi-faction civil war, and Kenya is in massive debt due Chinese firms building Kenyas hightech infanstrucute to China. Lastly Zimbabwae should come into everyones minds when they think of socialism in africa. For christs sake the guy was trained in North Korea and wanted to turn Rohdesia into a socialist workers country like what was promised in the USSR.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510866440 149731643,149753800,2017-11-16 21:09:01,">>149753612 >Would you ancap chaps accept a global government No. Wickedness isn't tolerable in any degree.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510866541 149731643,149753953,2017-11-16 21:10:30,,,Anonymous,randcap.png,YInFuV1Nq4poMwgPVRTJEA==,US,,1510866630 149731643,149754033,2017-11-16 21:11:15,">>149752109 > Christian... Pacifist... Ah the failed Christian nice doctrine. Not in for me. Give me the righteous God.",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510866675 149731643,149754106,2017-11-16 21:11:57,">>149754033 The righteous God who inevitably judges every man's soul and doesn't need your help. “Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave room for the wrath of God; for it is written, ‘Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.’”",,Praceteom,,,,,1510866717 149731643,149754117,2017-11-16 21:12:02,">>149753592 The strategic field was much deeper than that. The Soviet Union was already invading Manchuria and Korea, we know how that went. Japanese homeland was a possible target too. Hirohito was not willing to surrender. Millions more could have suffered or died. At least I prefer to justify such a horrible action that way.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510866722 149731643,149754163,2017-11-16 21:12:29,What you have against libertarians?,,Redpilled2016,,,US,,1510866749 149731643,149754207,2017-11-16 21:12:59,">>149738009 I thought about a nice solution recently: make the roads self-governing companies and let people buy stocks. they'd basically 'maintain themselves' while offering home owners a tool to regulate traffic by means of price increases or decreases in tolls. new roads would in this scenario be built by the most cunning of the other 'roads', or maybe even a risk-tolerant fridge, offering people the greatest possible value per currency unit while creating an optimised road network both in terms of traffic and social agreeableness.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510866779 149731643,149754534,2017-11-16 21:15:41,">>149753800 So you would not be open to negotiation? It's a great idea, you know? The establishment of an ancap state is objectively impossible in any alternative scenario. It's not a mainstream ideology. However I personally feel fond of it and think it should be given a try, a higher authority could ensure a proper preparation and execution.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510866941 149731643,149754597,2017-11-16 21:16:25,You guys know none of the sit your spewing is going to work? Like roads without a government to plan them? Shit the USA will be a fuckin maze.,,Redpilled2016,,,US,,1510866985 149731643,149754602,2017-11-16 21:16:30,">>149754117 >other people might murder and subjugate people if we don't murder and subjugate them first >therefore murder and subjugation is OK It's what I hate about consequentialism - you can literally rationalize ANY atrocity. Have you ever heard of the short story ""The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas""? It's a neat little thought experiment on the subject of utilitarianism/consequentialism.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510866990 149731643,149754762,2017-11-16 21:17:54,">>149754534 I don't negotiate with principles - what's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. I won't accept wickedness no matter what degree it's in. Also ""ancap state"" is oxymoronic senpai.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510867074 149731643,149754808,2017-11-16 21:18:19,">>149747710 You mean when the state stepped in and directed the economy?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867099 149731643,149754811,2017-11-16 21:18:20,">>149754207 Road companies then? Sounds like an agreeable idea in an ancap scenario, but I feel it might become a bit too complex. Roads are very complicated systems that often interweave, connect and disconnect. However I could easily see private highways like interstates.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867100 149731643,149754829,2017-11-16 21:18:31,">>149753612 No. Im for a one world anarchy governed by economics and individual self interests and the ability to fulfils those interests based upon ones own merits.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867111 149731643,149754981,2017-11-16 21:19:41,">>149754762 Ha sorry chap, what's the proper term for an ancap-controlled area? Accord? Territory?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867181 149731643,149755002,2017-11-16 21:19:56,">>149754597 Yeah bro. Central planners sure do things efficiently and are totally price sensitive. We should just have the government tell us take over every industry so that things will be better just like how they make roads better.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510867196 149731643,149755228,2017-11-16 21:21:53,">>149754981 There's no taxation and no force of people claiming a monopoly on the ""legitimate"" use of violence against others. I'd just say ancap state of affairs.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510867313 149731643,149755353,2017-11-16 21:23:09,">>149754981 ancapistan",,Anonymous,,,CA,,1510867389 149731643,149755513,2017-11-16 21:24:30,">>149754207 I dont know. I agree with what the UN poster said about private highways, but as for individual roads I cant see it really functioning more than a mutrually agree strip of space where those who use it or need others to use it will maintaign it. Maybe someone can rent out/lease/tolls on the road. I have thought that fuel companies could incorperate the price of using the road in the price of the gas. Honestly this american system of large roads and sprawled cities would just simply not be practical in an ancap. Ideally narrow alleyways and bike paths with less sprawled out buildings would be way more efficient and cheaper. Especially since the roads would end up becoming smaller and less expensive.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867470 149731643,149755691,2017-11-16 21:26:13,">>149755002 Im not saying that central planners are good nowadays, but imagine if you want a quicker route to your house but it goes through your neighbors yard. In a anarchy captilist society to settle the dispute you have a joust? Have a duel? Kidnap their daughter?",,Redpilled2016,,,US,,1510867573 149731643,149755770,2017-11-16 21:26:58,">>149753013 Yeah, look at Brazil. Now THAT's a Liberty movement. Not just the memes but the activism, the hunting normies on facebook for conversion, they read books our normies wouldn't even dream of touching but they really get out there. US Liberty movement is fucking embaressing to be honest.",,Anonymous,ft_marx-mises-brasil-e1459486351471-1.jpg,4eU/8GOCSmUU7TeCwFc3bQ==,,,1510867618 149731643,149755811,2017-11-16 21:27:24,">>149754602 It's not okay at all, under any sort of rationale or excuse. But I do believe if it is necessary to prevent further damage being done then it is necessary. Just read the story, very interesting. But I found the actions of the citizens of Omelas justifiable, if completely immoral and wretched. Perhaps I'm too tolerant of wickedness then.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867644 149731643,149755858,2017-11-16 21:27:56,">>149755691 >but imagine if you want a quicker route to your house but it goes through your neighbors yard I'd negotiate with my neighbor if I thought it was worth doing so, or I wouldn't if I wouldn't. Virtually everyone has a price, and it's just a matter of if the price is worth the cost - sometimes it is sometimes it isn't.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510867676 149731643,149756055,2017-11-16 21:29:45,">>149755858 I know you have a great moral center, for heavens sake if everyone was as well focused as you communism would work. But not everybody is and it would be idiotic to believe so.",,Redpilled2016,,,US,,1510867785 149731643,149756136,2017-11-16 21:30:28,">>149755228 How about ancap society? Capitalism is based in the principle of trade, an extremely deep social phenomena, so calling it a society is factually right and rolls off the tongue quite well. I'm finding myself surprisingly comfy in ancap threads despite being a massive statist, it's been a while since I've seen sane people in /pol/",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867828 149731643,149756235,2017-11-16 21:31:28,">>149755811 >It's not okay >But I do believe it is necessary If it's necessary it's MORE than OK - it's compulsory. You can't say it's not OK and then say it's morally required, because those are antithetical notions. >But I found the actions of the citizens of Omelas justifiable Many consequentialists/utilitarians do, which I find rather horrible desu. It should be troubling when one's morality admits of things like that. It is a nice little short story though - pretty succinctly illustrative of the dilemma.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510867888 149731643,149756350,2017-11-16 21:32:33,">>149739012 >Kulturkampf stop posting that image you gimp.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867953 149731643,149756407,2017-11-16 21:33:03,">>149755691 Marginal utility applies to conflict resolution as well. If someone walks by my house, do I want to go through the hassle of trying to convince my DRO to prosecute them? For what? At what cost? Who's going to do it for me? I can really see a beautiful complex yet elegantly simple wen and network of dispute resolution services, agencies, alternatives etc and people only pursuing what's important enough to pursue. These days even some parts of the court system or at least local councils people just complain because it costs nothing and its impersonal. We need that sense of community and common sense back, people as a majority aren't irrational enough to try and push every issue to the extreme. I walk through peoples property all the time, I still respect their property rights and if they tell me to fuck off I will, but when I was growing up people were fine with the kids going down the side of Mr Galt's Gulch to get to the pine cone forest near our houses or the park. This idea that everyones just sitting in their top window with a gun wanting to shoot anyone for touching their grass is ridiculous. Like imagine if you actually shot someones dog in a suburban area for shitting on your lawn? You fucking wouldn't at least 9/10 in a Libertarian society you wouldn't.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510867983 149731643,149756479,2017-11-16 21:33:42,"What do you all think about a sharia law implemented without the state, and with the consent of all believing participants (the Quran never mentioned a ""dawlah"" (state))",,Anonymous,1506193532164.jpg,lhr1Hi9ehyxoxtSXwkOiaA==,US,,1510868022 149731643,149756484,2017-11-16 21:33:47,">>149756055 Unfortunately utopias like communism don't work, the perfect planned economy is brilliant but it's practically impossible to reach with socialist planned economy and socialist political establishments. We've gained some good things like labour rights from socialism though, so I suppose they're okay.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868027 149731643,149756600,2017-11-16 21:34:52,">>149756136 You can call it that. I'm not a big fan of colloquial associations people attach to that term but it's fine for the idea you're trying to capture. Lots of these threads are full of helicopter memers.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510868092 149731643,149756797,2017-11-16 21:36:43,">>149756136 It's been a rough couple of months.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868203 149731643,149756821,2017-11-16 21:36:53,">>149742595 natsocs are leftist garbage and your feefees won't change that.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868213 149731643,149756852,2017-11-16 21:37:08,">>149756479 I suppose that's just everyone following a set of rules they have agreed on, no different from normal ancap ideology (I think? Can someone correct me if needed?)",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868228 149731643,149757006,2017-11-16 21:38:44,">>149756797 Years you mean.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868324 149731643,149757122,2017-11-16 21:39:55,">>149756852 Yeah you're basically right, it's always important to remember that everything is based on people and culture. If you have 99 black people and 1 white person, are you going to get white supremascist structures, and if you have 99 muslims or 99 White Liberals? Or Outback Australian Libertarians? City US Libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868395 149731643,149757242,2017-11-16 21:41:05,"Some cunt make a new thread and put in the OP something along the lines of ""WE ARE NOT FUCKING EGOISTS, WE ARE LIBERTARIANS"" really fucking clearly please. >>149757006 I miss 2012.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868465 149731643,149757470,2017-11-16 21:43:21,">>149756235 > You can't say it's not OK and then say it's morally required, because those are antithetical notions. But saying things like the sacrifice of some for the greater good and making it seem 100% right with no moral dilemma attached to it could degenerate into a notion that killing is right under certain circumstances, when it is not. We have to accept we do bad things because they are necessary, and remember fondly that which we have given. Including our humanity. Wait, I think I misunderstood you but can't quite point out where. Please confirm.",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868601 149731643,149757475,2017-11-16 21:43:23,">>149756821 Leftists or not, they are not libertarians. All of them must therefore die.",,Anonymous,hoppewave.png,t0nzDQirwcUOn9X+yAe+/A==,,,1510868603 149731643,149757778,2017-11-16 21:46:17,">>149757475 Hey, parliamentary debate is a thing you know?",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868777 149731643,149757967,2017-11-16 21:48:04,">>149755513 by raising tolls you have an incentive to create larger roads so there can pass more traffic -> more profits. on the other hand, where roads aren't that profitable, they'd be a misallocation of resources and therefore useles - or better said, less useful than something else. >>149754811 so are a lot of other things, yet companies create them - and cooperate or compete based on what is most advantageous to them. I could easily see a network of local road providers team up to create additional value for their customers and thereby more money for them, just as it done between communication providers or train networks between countries. > Honestly this american system of large roads and sprawled cities would just simply not be practical in an ancap. which is good, because they're a bubble (read: misallocation of resources. I think las vegas is an example of that. anyway, the money can be spend on something that benefits all of us much more)",,Anonymous,,,,,1510868884 149731643,149758006,2017-11-16 21:48:29,">>149757470 >that killing is right under certain circumstances, when it is not ??? You've said the bombing of Hiroshima/Nagasaki was the correct option. Something being necessary - as in obligatory - is the same as calling it morally right. Morality deals in what people SHOULD or OUGHT to do, and you've said that the killing of people in the case of Hiroshima/Nagasaki was what OUGHT to have been done. Ergo either - at least in the case of your support of the bombing of Hiroshima/Nagisaki over alternatives - you do not hold that killing isn't ever right or else you do and are confused on your support of the nuclear bombings.",,Praceteom,,,,,1510868909 149954638,149954638,2017-11-18 12:47:30,,AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1511009250 149954638,149955685,2017-11-18 12:57:38,"Does anyone know of any ancap critics who are actually familiar with the ideology and attempt to debunk some of the arguments made by Hoppe and other well known libertarian thinkers? Or are they are all literally retards who want to condemn something they know nothing about which hasn't been adequately rebutted? The more people I talk to, the more astounded I become at how little time these people have spent considering anarchocapitalism while aggressively condemning the ideology... I've also noticed that for some reason a lot of people on this board seem to think that ancap = unchecked degeneracy or that actions don't have consequences. Been working on some things like pic related to counter this idea.",,Anonymous,gold 0018.png,jWzQkNvStpegBeq2ScRUwg==,,,1511009858 149954638,149955923,2017-11-18 12:59:59,">AnCap On /pol/ We need a new BO. Fucking faggot.",,Anonymous,IMG_3802.jpg,BKIX0IprkDwuzcH/PDPTmQ==,,,1511009999 149954638,149955945,2017-11-18 13:00:15,">>149955685 >debunking axiomatic deductive arguments not possible without denying the axioms by definition. denying the axioms leads to denouncing property or denouncing logic or silly stuff like that. Any argument you'll find is either a de-facto argument for the status quo or some argument from emotion. I'm confident that once AI takes over it'll logically come to organize society into anarcho-capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511010015 149954638,149956202,2017-11-18 13:02:40,">>149955685 Anarchy and capitalism are a contradiction in terms. Anarchy had been debunked repeatedly and had no place for discussion here. Go back to leftypol faggot soyboy.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511010160 149954638,149956312,2017-11-18 13:03:48,">>149954638 Unironically being an ancap",,Anonymous,sailormoon.jpg,RPtL3mfxmeEcjqSN/+7uBA==,US,,1511010228 149954638,149956316,2017-11-18 13:03:49,">>149956202 *has",,Anonymous,,,,,1511010229 149954638,149956801,2017-11-18 13:08:38,">>149955685 you have to be a race realist - at the very least.",,Anonymous,,,SE,,1511010518 149954638,149956992,2017-11-18 13:10:38,">>149956202 > anarchy and capitalism are contradictory terms anarchy = stateless society capitalism = private property in the means of production where is the contradiction? who debunked anarchy?",,Anonymous,,,,,1511010638 149954638,149957234,2017-11-18 13:13:14,Does anyone have the screenshot or link of the guy losing his shit over people liking his Tweet because he used ancap wrong?,,Anonymous,1510803524317-pol.jpg,EUxp3o/z+SGKKozT90DSQw==,US,,1511010794 149954638,149957676,2017-11-18 13:17:37,">>149956202 can you define capitalism and anarchy for me please? let's see if you are different, or if you're another person aggressively condemning something you have spent no time considering.",,Anonymous,gold 0025.png,hxNw8pC43RtkDFylRupD3g==,,,1511011057 149954638,149957975,2017-11-18 13:20:41,"How does one actually earn money in an ancap world? If you go to work,you go on someone else's property and ,so break the NAP and get shot.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511011241 149954638,149958314,2017-11-18 13:23:50,The only thing I dont get about an anarcho-capitalist society is lack of public trust. Would any particular action be considered a crime? Would there just be posse's going to take car of degenerates? Would they be paid? How is all hell breaking loose prevented?,,Anonymous,,,,,1511011430 149954638,149958496,2017-11-18 13:25:35,">>149957975 Nothing keeps you from inviting someone onto your property You can't shoot someone on your property unless he poses a threat Shooting someone on your property without them posing a clear and imminent threat to your life would be murder and punishable up to death if the victim's family so chooses.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511011535 149954638,149958997,2017-11-18 13:30:40,"Ancaps are made fun of by nearly everyone, including commies. You're all in the clouds and view the state as the enemy because your favourite pretentious e-celebs from jewtube like lauren southerns, jordan peterson, stefan molyneaux are all so smart and know everything. We all ofc religiously watch sargon and styx because they're the 21st century messiahs. grow the fuck up I doubt even any of you are even adults",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511011840 149954638,149959449,2017-11-18 13:34:59,">>149958314 Most people don't refrain from murder simply because it's illegal. Most people refrain from murder because it's immoral. If murder were legalized tomorrow, most people would certainly still not be out murdering. People made laws because they valued the ethics they enforce, but the ethics have to be there for people to value them. Without laws, ethics will still be there, and a system of ethics based on the right to property has already been devised by for example murray rothbard in 'the Ethics of Liberty'. tl;dr most people don't fuck with other people because they don't want to be fucked with. This principle, the nonagression principle, is the basis for ancap law. This does not mean you can shoot someone for stealing your car. What it does mean is you can steal back your car from someone who stole it, and kill him in the process if he threatens your life (something that is illegal today). This however will probably be too risky for most people, and so most people will want someone else to take care of this for them. In come the security providers/insurance companies. They provide security for a price, and negotiate among eachother to find the cheapest solution that both parties can agree to. Note: war and violence is very costly, and therefore a peaceful solution will almost always be less costly and therefore the solution insurance companies will choose. Note: Weapons of mass destruction are very costly and very inaccurate, massively aggressive and almost certain to cause massive collateral damage. These will be very unpopular. In an ancap society you want pinpoint accuracy. You want only the person you want to die to die, and no one else to get hurt. McNukes will not be a thing.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511012099 149954638,149959631,2017-11-18 13:36:40,">>149958997 See this is what i mean, pure emotion. No argument found.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511012200 149954638,149959688,2017-11-18 13:37:11,">>149958997 >ppl make fun of ancaps and they view the state as the enemy b/c of lauren southern CHECKMATE ancap losers! Are you larping as a retard? Or are you an actual retard?",,Anonymous,gold 0005.jpg,0q/GP8vLbJMeNe0+chF6+g==,,,1511012231 149954638,149959961,2017-11-18 13:39:32,"Stop having ancap generals, bring back /lrg/ threads.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1511012372 149954638,149959980,2017-11-18 13:39:40,>>149958997,,Anonymous,1484248284574.png,AM4zT90wcf79CLvYnBosXQ==,,,1511012380 149954638,149960345,2017-11-18 13:42:56,">>149959688 > Literally calls me a retard right after legitimising calling me a retard by putting a graph that has no source, that looks stupid, and is very obviously face >>149959631 I had no argument, there's no point in arguing because I can't change your opinion, every fascist or NS always goes through a weird libertarian phase for some extremely weird reason. Some just go further down the rabbit hole. So its more just your journey, in my eyes you're a retard. Also I would never make the argument about murder because if I could murder and steal I would do it in a heartbeat. And there was literally no emotion in what I said, it was a statement, and not an emotionally charged statement. The people cannot plan accordingly and will fail in attempting to do so because they don't collectivise in anyway for the collective good. Ancaps value the individual over the collective which in my opinion in selfish. Fascists value the collective over the individual",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511012576 149954638,149960644,2017-11-18 13:45:32,">>149959980 I feel like all ancaps once had kekistani flags, you guys never actually make sound responses to what people say and just put out meme pics or retarded shit that has nothing to do with the conversation. And I was a libertarian and a traditionalist before I was a fascist. Never heard of hoppean libertarianism, i''ll look it up, what I'm seeing is that he's an anarcho capitalist economist, you've also got communist economists btw, but nonetheless i'll look him up",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511012732 149954638,149960805,2017-11-18 13:46:48,">>149960345 So basically, you have no arguments. Wow, I'm so surprised.",,Anonymous,gold 0006.png,s6/Ay5AhdpyIRVNmnyn0fQ==,,,1511012808 149954638,149960965,2017-11-18 13:48:05,">>149960805 Look at my past comment, you literally proved what I said about Ancaps. Thank you",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511012885 149954638,149961078,2017-11-18 13:49:13,"Reminder that Rothbard was an anti-anti-Communist, not a red-baiting retard like people in these threads. It was the anti-Communists who drove Rothbard and other libertarians out of the post-war Right.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511012953 149954638,149961082,2017-11-18 13:49:15,">>149960644 >you've also got communist economists >who is ludwig von mises?",,Anonymous,,,,,1511012955 149954638,149961326,2017-11-18 13:51:15,">>149961082 an institute? that's all I know, I'm guessing the institute is named after him. Other than being a dick i'll try to be open minded about anarcho capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013075 149954638,149961504,2017-11-18 13:52:48,">>149961082 From what i'm reading on wiki he doesn't seem to be viewed as a very bright man by other economists",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013168 149954638,149961512,2017-11-18 13:52:52,>>149954638,,Anonymous,fucklefties.png,9bLmV7dyozO5WQeZ0+6q0w==,,,1511013172 149954638,149961777,2017-11-18 13:55:03,">>149961504 From what I'm reading on the wiki jews aren't really pushing marxism on western academia.",,Anonymous,,,PL,,1511013303 149954638,149961805,2017-11-18 13:55:15,">anarchism is an ideology opposed to hierarchy and the state >capitalism requires the state to enforce the institution of private property, and always produces hierarchies hurr durr I'm an anarchist-capitalist, read (((Roth-tard))) le hepicopers! xDDDDD",,Anonymous,1489340289745.jpg,5QIuODV5bdyW9xffYqc1WQ==,GB,,1511013315 149954638,149961839,2017-11-18 13:55:30,">>149957975 >babby tier arguments be at list a little creative",,Anonymous,,,,,1511013330 149954638,149962086,2017-11-18 13:57:38,">>149961777 Out of all ideologies, libertarianism and anarcho capitalism would be the last ones jews would actually care about. Not every single thing in the world is jewish controlled",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013458 149954638,149962104,2017-11-18 13:57:51,">>149961504 lol Ludwig von Mises' Human Action stands unrefuted and demolished socialism once and for all (price calculation)",,Anonymous,,,,,1511013471 149954638,149962144,2017-11-18 13:58:16,">>149958314 that's why you need a high trust society. something like japan or western europe/usa before 56%. because - believe it or not - people don't steal, scam and murder not because it's verboten but because it's morally wrong. if you have a bunch of individuals who think long term you don't need some oppressive state telling everyone to behave. everyone will behave. and the few that don't will get hunted down by private security forces and their property will be confiscated and given to the victims of their crime as reimbursement",,Anonymous,,,,,1511013496 149954638,149962170,2017-11-18 13:58:27,">>149962086 Is that why people like Rand Paul are being attacked in their own home?",,Anonymous,,,,,1511013507 149954638,149962227,2017-11-18 13:58:46,">>149961839 > Baby tier argument > Post a retarded meme that he found funny that lambasts NS and praises Ancaps",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013526 149954638,149962377,2017-11-18 13:59:53,">>149962170 Rand Paul is a libertarian, not an ancap, and if you're going to say that then shouldn't every murdered politician also be thought as being assassinated because of their ideology? Meaning that every murdered politician is because of jews?",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013593 149954638,149962415,2017-11-18 14:00:14,Ancapfags expect everyone to participate in a freemarket with a completely rational line of thought. They also expect everyone to not be criminals and just take their stuff.,,Anonymous,,,US,,1511013614 149954638,149962540,2017-11-18 14:01:25,">>149960345 >every fascist or NS always goes through a weird libertarian phase >abandoning logic and morals to become some collectivist/authoritarian nigger sad",,Anonymous,socialistgas.png,tBX7VAF6vFkF7jv6fZewCw==,,,1511013685 149954638,149962546,2017-11-18 14:01:26,">>149962170 And he views himself as a constitutional conservative.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013686 149954638,149962615,2017-11-18 14:02:03,">>149962540 omg... why the hell do you all post memes as your argument jesus christ you're all stupid.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013723 149954638,149962728,2017-11-18 14:02:51,">>149962415 in a free society i'd have no qualms with stealing and murdering people.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013771 149954638,149962785,2017-11-18 14:03:18,>>149960965,,Anonymous,ghandi-altruism.png,Au4INZ55i2yyuIrKcDSwEA==,,,1511013798 149954638,149962869,2017-11-18 14:04:06,">>149962144 Private property is an even stronger force than a high trust society. High trust societies will develop organically when (at least culturally) homogeneous groups are allowed to voluntarily segregate in a free market. So I don't see what you call a ""high trust society"" as a prerequisite for an anarchist free market. It's a consequence.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511013846 149954638,149962890,2017-11-18 14:04:18,">>149962785 Mahatma Gandhi also said that the jews should make a peaceful protest when they were in the camps. He wasn't a bright man, he's the equivalent of malala yousafzai",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511013858 149954638,149963054,2017-11-18 14:05:42,">>149962415 criminals get shot. lazy and dumb people starve. after a few years you have no undesirables left.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511013942 149954638,149963122,2017-11-18 14:06:19,">>149962377 You said Jews don't care about libertarianism. It's funny how you say not all things are jews but you frame it in a way as if jews are masterminds and libertarianism is not worthy of them. I don't believe international Jewry is all-pervasive. It's just a factor among many others. All of which are at the center of politics.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511013979 149954638,149963137,2017-11-18 14:06:27,>>149962615,,Anonymous,hoppecopter.jpg,40ounfzSJ1yJA8e6yKxqjQ==,,,1511013987 149954638,149963211,2017-11-18 14:07:05,">>149962728 you sound like a typical leftist",,Anonymous,whykillingleftistsismoral.jpg,65OXxrD1l3bJnGhvqFuLig==,,,1511014025 149954638,149963243,2017-11-18 14:07:23,">>149962890 what camps?",,Anonymous,,,,,1511014043 149954638,149963319,2017-11-18 14:08:13,">>149963122 I'm implying that if jews were to be masterminds they certainly would not go for neither anarchism or libertarianism. Also neither of the two are demonised whilst Fascism and NS are.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511014093 149954638,149963446,2017-11-18 14:09:20,>>149963319,,Anonymous,removeparasites.png,RGfboMcSwDXBCQw9rtomzg==,,,1511014160 149954638,149963454,2017-11-18 14:09:23,">>149963211 You sound like an autist posting pics as arguments. You're not helping yourself by doing that. And Jews being in concentration camps is not the debate, the holocaust is.",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511014163 149954638,149963521,2017-11-18 14:10:06,>>149963454,,Anonymous,mikkeondemocracy.jpg,JAxwYC7ARKlyd1s4OfFYCw==,,,1511014206 149954638,149963580,2017-11-18 14:10:39,,,Anonymous,randancap.png,YInFuV1Nq4poMwgPVRTJEA==,US,,1511014239 149954638,149963620,2017-11-18 14:10:58,">>149963446 Ok i'm out, good on you. Anyone who reads what you guys are posting are going to view you as stupid and further delegitimise anarcho capitalism",,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511014258 149954638,149963804,2017-11-18 14:12:41,>>149963620,,Anonymous,nicze.png,NR7IpImpI7NHVhWnE5jf6A==,,,1511014361 149954638,149964774,2017-11-18 14:21:07,">>149954638 What do you think of Milton Friedman? Even he believed government intervention was necessary, though minimal.",,Anonymous,,,VN,,1511014867 149954638,149965512,2017-11-18 14:28:19,death thread for a dead ideology. Fitting,,Anonymous,,,ES,,1511015299 149954638,149965868,2017-11-18 14:31:36,">>149957676 Nigger what? Have you ever heard of the black market? The black market is basically AnCap in its purest form.",,Anonymous,somalia-1.jpg,HCHI61vie5b2UXGvijoeFw==,,,1511015496 149954638,149966030,2017-11-18 14:33:13,">>149963804 ""Stolen"". Ever heard of the social contract dumfuck?",,Anonymous,1506277930572.jpg,Brmp9EH4Lzh+1DhxqplxZw==,,,1511015593 149954638,149966067,2017-11-18 14:33:32,">>149965512 its just bootleg lrg, i just browse these personally, and don't post this is the containment for all the lefty caps that don't realise they are leftists",,TPM,,,,,1511015612 149954638,149966191,2017-11-18 14:34:31,">>149966030 >the hobbsian account comeback when you know the basis for the contract and why you THINK we need it",,TPM,,,,,1511015671 149954638,149966432,2017-11-18 14:36:39,">>149966191 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract >comeback when you know the basis for the contract and why you THINK we need it Ignorant piece of shit, no wonder why people think you have autism.",,Anonymous,21192612_1590931417626031_5248564707770092152_n.png,LnJ3+LxuEdlOsw8XBLDjmQ==,,,1511015799 149954638,149966667,2017-11-18 14:38:35,">>149963620 Ok, so go and read this. And then come back with some arguments.",,Anonymous,democracy_the_god_that_failed_hoppe.jpg,bJjnTg/jFyUsy5OhB/ru1Q==,,,1511015915 149954638,149966900,2017-11-18 14:40:30,How would you prevent people from voluntarily forming a state?,,Anonymous,,,US,,1511016030 149954638,149966939,2017-11-18 14:40:49,">>149956202 This is why Semites are the Masterrace. NatSoc is stupid as shit and they will be judged by Big Carpenter. You are useless, anarchism and individualism creates a society of kings and highstanding minds.",,Anonymous,1508428842204.jpg,zx5bn4kIlYROOi3IvhaJLA==,DE,,1511016049 149954638,149966999,2017-11-18 14:41:19,">>149966432 >fucking wikipedia indicates knowledge ok so what your point? my point is that the entire philosophical underpinning of the social contract which is the idea that, men in a state of nature would be in a state of constant war. this in not compatible with communism. do you even know your own ideology? how the fuck do you defend this?",,TPM,,,,,1511016079 149954638,149967096,2017-11-18 14:42:12,>>149966030,,Anonymous,ancapsmug.png,SPt8HKwOEU08HT3OsDED9g==,US,,1511016132 149954638,149967159,2017-11-18 14:42:41,">>149965868 Ah yes, the Somalia argument. Just one of the reasons I became an ancap. You guys realize your fallacies make people realize we're right?",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511016161 149954638,149967661,2017-11-18 14:47:22,">>149967159 no, they don't they are like lefties that argue against right wingers",,TPM,,,,,1511016442 149954638,149967954,2017-11-18 14:50:05,">>149966999 Nigger. Natural laws. Entropy, disorder, the thing which drives everything into chaos. You nigger are suggesting that we humans that are still basic animals are somehow in nature non violent which is absurd(Read history dumfuck). You your self seem to have really no idea what you are larping for. What you are basically advocating is for a nihilistic ideology of chaos with out regulation without structure. Something which nature has alot to offer.Yet you sitt on your desk and write these retarded comments on a machine that was invented in a enviorment with structure and as if it would be better to tear everything down and be primitive. You really don't understand communism... the communistic utopia is a utopia, something which should be strived for but something which isn't achiveable in our current time. Ever read about Titoism?",,Anonymous,best goy.jpg,FpTugX0l9OC8hQG0LzRdDw==,,,1511016605 149954638,149968106,2017-11-18 14:51:29,,,Anonymous,,,,,1511016689 149954638,149968250,2017-11-18 14:53:00,This thread is literally advocating chaos.,,Anonymous,1511031643306.jpg,BDU69Ha3ZNAeivkO0X0daQ==,,,1511016780 149954638,149968344,2017-11-18 14:53:58,">>149955685 I dunno, try reading about Contract Jurisdictions? Not really familiar with the matter but I think Rothbard had some ""law problems"" - like the NAP, for example. About as good of an advice as I can give",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1511016838 149954638,149968678,2017-11-18 14:57:13,">>149968106 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008 The free market is literally the cause of all financial crisises. Debt, over theorized prices, etc. You seriously are hollow like a regular LARP.",,Anonymous,67cf69509c9330653063674c9b4fa92a_XL.png,kiC0Sks4B+BK4mSmQ+dvxw==,,,1511017033 149954638,149969167,2017-11-18 15:01:15,">>149954638 >Libertarians >Not Liberals",,Anonymous,tmp-cam--722185832.jpg,oPFODY2UeLl/O/XlVsPJBA==,US,,1511017275 149954638,149969285,2017-11-18 15:02:17,">>149966667 >Democracy The God That Failed Libertarians are a bunch of dumb goys. They're not going to create a free society. They're just going to replace democratic governments with a Feudal system of private owners. They will then conflate their ignorant servitude to these unelected masters as freedom. ""If one must have a state, defined as an agency that exercises a compulsory territorial monopoly of ultimate decision-making (jurisdiction) and of taxation, then it is economically and ethically advantageous to choose monarchy over democracy.""-Hoppe ""both Mises and Rothbard had a soft spot for democracy and tended to view the transition from monarchy to democracy as progress. In contrast, I will explain the rapid growth of state power in the course of the 20th century lamented by Mises and Rothbard as the systematic outcome of democracy and the democratic mindset, i.e., the (erroneous) belief in the efficiency and/or justice of public property and popular (majority) rule.""-Hoppe ""Hoppe characterizes democracy as ""publicly owned government"", which he compares to monarchy—""privately owned government""—to conclude that the latter is preferable""",,Anonymous,libertarianism6.png,DngNV1ZPfyjq3LS4KrzE3w==,,,1511017337 149954638,149969412,2017-11-18 15:03:21,">>149968106 https://youtu.be/2oehDVWkHq0?t=24m26s",,Anonymous,,,,,1511017401 149954638,149969638,2017-11-18 15:05:26,">>149967954 There is zero reason to suppose that society has been improved by modelling it after a computer and much to suppose that everyone who thinks ""scientifically"" is retard-tier.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511017526 149954638,149969681,2017-11-18 15:05:47,">>149969285 >I don't know what the word 'preferable' means",,Anonymous,1482662605558.jpg,WFCFNx9A3KGI4KVseCwWNw==,,,1511017547 149954638,149969829,2017-11-18 15:07:11,">>149954638 I dont see why certain people keep pushing a divide amongst ancaps and natsocs. We have a common enemy, the eternal (((marxist))). We may differ on our methods of obtaining our ideal society, but until there is an actualy Nazi threat, I refuse to ""denounce"" or bash natsocs for the sake of virtue signalling to the gary johnson and sargon of acuck crowd.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511017631 149954638,149970032,2017-11-18 15:08:58,"'Anarcho'-capitalism is an oxymoron and is not a form of anarchism. Anarchism doesn't mean just opposing the state, it means opposing all forms of coercive hierarchy and authority. 'Anarcho'-Capitalism is better called feudalism. >Introduction to Anarchism https://libcom.org/files/intro%20pamphlet%20reading.pdf >The Anarchist FAQ http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionA >Is 'Anarcho'-Capitalism a form of Anarchism? http://www.infoshop.org/AnarchistFAQSectionF >'Anarcho'-Capitalism is impossible. https://c4ss.org/content/4043 >What is Property, Pierre-Joseph Proudhon https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/pierre-joseph-proudhon-what-is-property-an-inquiry-into-the-principle-of-right-and-of-governmen >The Conquest of Bread, Peter Kropotkin https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread >Markets not capitalism http://radgeek.com/gt/2011/10/Markets-Not-Capitalism-2011-Chartier-and-Johnson.pdf",,Anonymous,1387235738389.jpg,yQzKtNYq8O3jZlZitErT4A==,,,1511017738 149954638,149970046,2017-11-18 15:09:07,">>149969681 It means if presented with the choice of democratic society and a Monarchy, Hoppe will choose Monarchy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann%E2%80%93Morgenstern_utility_theorem#The_axioms I'm pretty sure I can run circles around a lightweight like Hoppe.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511017747 149954638,149970171,2017-11-18 15:10:01,">>149970046 >I can run circles I know, you're not making any arguments",,Anonymous,,,,,1511017801 149954638,149970274,2017-11-18 15:10:56,">>149970032 >it means opposing all forms of coercive hierarchy and authority No, it doesn't. Check the definition of the word anarchy. Nothing in capitalism is coercive. All is voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511017856 149954638,149970358,2017-11-18 15:11:36,">>149970171 Neither are you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K--kQAmbV1w",,Anonymous,,,,,1511017896 149954638,149970689,2017-11-18 15:14:33,">>149970032 Oh look it's the brit who got btfo in the last thread",,Anonymous,1439646466856.jpg,7XmV4B0XRTshd7Rxe3w8jQ==,,,1511018073 149954638,149970719,2017-11-18 15:14:53,">>149956992 I just look at what happened to the ancoms during the rise of the USSR and wonder if you actually realize the rope tied to your neck. Nobody wants anarchy, you'll just facilitate the proliferation of monopolies in a newly created oligarchical corpocracy. gg no re, can't wait to hang you at the McGallies",,Anonymous,tmp-cam-597998407.jpg,B/xY67VHQGWFwwoZiIcG6w==,US,,1511018093 149954638,149970731,2017-11-18 15:14:58,">>149970032 >everything is subjective >hurr stop calling ancoms oxymorons, y-youre just the oxymoron We must gas your kind.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511018098 149954638,149970815,2017-11-18 15:15:45,">>149969638 K E K I S T A N SAUCE ON THAT K E K I S T A N MEME XDDDDDDDDDDDD",,Anonymous,,,,,1511018145 149954638,149970858,2017-11-18 15:16:08,">>149970274 >defining a political ideology with a dictionary",,Anonymous,,,,,1511018168 149954638,149971096,2017-11-18 15:18:24,">>149970032 lol gay",,Anonymous,INFIDEL.jpg,Rt0FlgYD/GlciFG03iZH/w==,,,1511018304 149954638,149971171,2017-11-18 15:19:04,">>149970858 >>149970358",,Anonymous,Cwlt1nOVQAAh5KI.jpg,dHkTMu/ZJRErQ5J50YNtkA==,,,1511018344 149954638,149971435,2017-11-18 15:21:31,">>149968678 Were there crises in USSR? Yes. Were there free markets in USSR? No. Now get back to your grave you commie fuck",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1511018491 149954638,149971763,2017-11-18 15:24:34,"What do you think of Social Justice Libertarian? https://thingofthings.wordpress.com/2016/03/25/libertarian-social-justice-warrior-a-surprisingly-coherent-position/",,Anonymous,,,,,1511018674 149954638,149971984,2017-11-18 15:26:40,">>149971763 (((Libertarians)))",,Anonymous,1477632773466.jpg,CHI0RTxoGOCD8FYAgJoHoA==,,,1511018800 149954638,149972279,2017-11-18 15:29:24,>>149970719,,Anonymous,cut-the-crap-narchos.jpg,mLtccSHFykHk+scyZf73dA==,,,1511018964 149954638,149972647,2017-11-18 15:32:43,">>149970032 You DO know that feudalism is just working for land? While this is possible under Anarcho-capitalism it doesn't allow you to disregard it completely you ""an""com faggot",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1511019163 149954638,149972715,2017-11-18 15:33:28,">>149971984 we are libertarians though",,Anonymous,,,,,1511019208 149954638,149972881,2017-11-18 15:34:51,">>149972715 >not reconizing the difference between real libertarians and ""what is aleppo"" virtue signalling faggots",,Anonymous,1493314066110.jpg,mA2/KHdVsksKbMvAPSCRKA==,,,1511019291 149954638,149973463,2017-11-18 15:40:13,Ancaps eternally btfo,,Anonymous,1492100556500.jpg,A6aKichhXEZBj+D6x1vwyQ==,,,1511019613 149954638,149973530,2017-11-18 15:40:44,">>149959449 >war and violence is very costly, and therefore a peaceful solution will almost always be less costly and therefore the solution insurance companies will choose. Not an argument. War is often very profitable to the winner. Profitable empires are usually forged through violent conquest. Lol at thinking Insurance companies will save you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCCTJKsLZxE",,Anonymous,smedley-butler-racket.jpg,CI3RV6lRDTJv9LRbjd0oJQ==,,,1511019644 149954638,149973550,2017-11-18 15:40:55,">>149972279 I do find this quite interesting in all honesty. Were communists back then seen the same as communists today? Weak and scared individuals?",,Anonymous,,,,,1511019655 149954638,149973737,2017-11-18 15:42:28,">>149972881 but our goal is better though. you guys just want to cover your ears, while we help social justice too, to create a better society for women and minorities, or trans or whatever",,Anonymous,,,,,1511019748 149954638,149973898,2017-11-18 15:43:52,">>149973737 I'm saging this thread now btw",,Anonymous,1477540611854.png,+Rc88FC6sdlk6zGD26OYEg==,,,1511019832 149954638,149974100,2017-11-18 15:45:30,">war and violence is very costly, and therefore a peaceful solution will almost always be less costly and therefore the solution insurance companies will choose. In order to believe in lolbertarianism, you have to completely ignore everything that happened in history. Hell, you need to ignore everything that happened that very same day. lolbertarians try to seem reasonable by using a lot of logical connectives in their writings but the conclusions of their arguments rarely follow directly from their premises. The premises on which their arguments are built, also fall apart when placed under a small amount of scrutiny.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511019930 149954638,149974146,2017-11-18 15:45:55,">>149973463 Y'know, Rothbardianism is not the only form of Anarcho-capitalism. You may BTFO one but there's always another",,Anonymous,,,RU,,1511019955 149954638,149974345,2017-11-18 15:47:31,">>149974100 >the conclusions of their arguments rarely follow directly from their premises There are countless critiques of ancaps but this isn't really one of them, Rothbard for all the complete nonsense he wrote was extremely consistent in all of his deductions from axioms",,Anonymous,,,,,1511020051 149954638,149974586,2017-11-18 15:49:38,">>149973550 Ask your damn grandpa or grandma, jesus.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511020178 149954638,149974606,2017-11-18 15:49:48,">>149973463 Doolittle's on our side, man. Propertarianism is just the next step. >Hayekianism (good economics, bleeding-heart non-ethics) >Rothbardianism (superior economics, poor ethics) >Hoppeanism (supreme economics, mediocre ethics) >Propertarianism (supreme economics, supreme ethics) I wish more people would read his stuff, desu. TrueDilTom has been the only guy to spread his word.",,Anonymous,DN9dvtKX0AUEy8i.jpg,Q5B+uaRxQ/8nYFZLjm2dqw==,,,1511020188 149954638,149975116,2017-11-18 15:53:41,">>149974345 >Rothbard for all the complete nonsense he wrote was extremely consistent in all of his deductions from axioms Small errors in reasoning can often magnify by applying more and more ""iron-tight"" logical deductions on them.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511020421 149954638,149975143,2017-11-18 15:53:52,">>149974606 correction >>Hoppeanism (supreme economics, objective apriori ethics)",,Anonymous,1509835165524.jpg,jOl0VYCbXFrjzUt1zhku1A==,,,1511020432 149954638,149975288,2017-11-18 15:55:06,">>149974606 Doolittle is just on another planet, desu. By far one of the smartest people I've ever come across, it's just a pity that propertarianism is inaccessible to the vast majority of people. There are probably maybe a handful of people capable of seriously challenging him in an argument",,Anonymous,,,,,1511020506 149954638,149975379,2017-11-18 15:55:41,">>149974345 Here's an example of Hoppe arguing that insurance companies will be able to safeguard a nation.",,Anonymous,insurancecompaniestotherescue.png,b6vgfsckycfRUaBV/FRpSQ==,,,1511020541 149954638,149975685,2017-11-18 15:58:20,">>149975143 https://propertarianism.com/2015/07/31/a-list-of-hans-hermann-hoppes-errors/",,Anonymous,,,,,1511020700 149954638,149976183,2017-11-18 16:02:36,">>149954638 what do ancap think about egoist anarchism ?",,Anonymous,tzuyu-pholar-34.jpg,xhMkpnAT00DCt4LA0PTjgQ==,BE,,1511020956 149954638,149978740,2017-11-18 16:25:17,">>149970032 Are you the Brit who was in that other thread but ""had to leave""? Because you're making the same arguments and also you're wrong. Nothing in Capitalism is coercive, nobody's forcing anybody to do anything. Capitalism is the natural hierarchy where people move forward based on their ability and intelligence and they are of course rewarded accordingly. It's not perfect, it's not kind, but it is the most ethical system. + No state, or anarchism. Therefore Anarcho Capitalism. I don't see anything wrong with this.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511022317 149954638,149980309,2017-11-18 16:39:10,"Y'know, I always look at these threads and I always laugh, because anarchocapitalists are the absolute worst at any organization or actually achieving anything except their circlejerks where any bad situation proposed is dismissed as not occurring under ancapism or just being solved by the magic of free markets. It's kind of funny, desu.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511023150 149954638,149981012,2017-11-18 16:45:43,">>149980309 lol, I wish statists would apply the same level of scrutiny to their beloved governments pic related, we can play that game too",,Anonymous,questions for statists.png,JFZA9C/X39R1Kbj5sD9y1Q==,,,1511023543 150222176,150222176,2017-11-20 14:24:42,,AnCap General /acg/,Anonymous,1510357692832.png,csi2nKr/KxRLXnSPtJZGlg==,,,1511187882 150222176,150222335,2017-11-20 14:26:04,Why call yourself an anarchist if you're nothing but a pseudo-nazi/fascist? Pathetic.,,Anonymous,,,,,1511187964 150222176,150222878,2017-11-20 14:31:23,">>150222335 >Communists, National Socialists, and other assorted Marxist degenerates need to fuck off.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511188283 150222176,150223065,2017-11-20 14:33:10,">>150222878 Notice how I say pseudo? You're not even a nazi.",,Anonymous,,,,,1511188390 150222176,150223101,2017-11-20 14:33:29,">>150222335 nature",,Anonymous,,,,,1511188409 150222176,150224014,2017-11-20 14:42:34,">>150223065 Unlike most commie scum, im assuming that you can read; care to take a look below where it says: >THREAD RESOURCES: classical ignorant marxist :).",,Anonymous,,,,,1511188954 150222176,150224098,2017-11-20 14:43:25,">>150222335 it's anarchist because the goverment wouldn't give any handouts",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1511189005 150222176,150224162,2017-11-20 14:44:04,>>150223065,,Anonymous,1510323826559.jpg,KgKDqiOGGJxsIQCfIuIrog==,,,1511189044 150222176,150224296,2017-11-20 14:45:35,">>150222176 >meanwhile in ancapistan",,Anonymous,IMG_0392.jpg,vVwa+kx0ihtEUoK5imeMPw==,US,,1511189135 150222176,150224326,2017-11-20 14:45:53,">>150224162 you forgot slavery of criminals, way more productive than death penalties or any prison time",,Anonymous,,,PT,,1511189153 150222176,150224493,2017-11-20 14:47:49,Greedy consumerists who destroys the environment and cares on;y for money and materialism at the expense of others or a crybaby who get's insulted about other people he doesn't know with a different culture being criticized and wanting to force everyone to help retards and lesbians that suck the economy dry? how about fuck you both.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511189269 150222176,150224507,2017-11-20 14:47:56,">>150224162 Populism is bad hmkay",,Anonymous,,,,,1511189276 150222176,150224562,2017-11-20 14:48:25,>>150222335,,Anonymous,1508566933047.jpg,DLEdM1QS/fe6xPrDjuJNKA==,,,1511189305 150222176,150224644,2017-11-20 14:49:28,Greedy consumerists who destroys the environment and cares on;y for money and materialism at the expense of others or a crybaby who get's insulted about other people he doesn't know with a different culture being criticized and wanting to force everyone to help retards and lesbians that suck the economy dry who don't work? how about fuck you both.,,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511189368 150222176,150224885,2017-11-20 14:51:57,">>150223065 Nazis and anxious are from completely different ideologies.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511189517 150222176,150224995,2017-11-20 14:53:03,">>150224885 Ancaps, not anxious.",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511189583 150222176,150225068,2017-11-20 14:53:50,Greedy consumerists who destroys the environment and cares only for money and materialism at the expense of others or a crybaby who get's insulted about other people he doesn't know with a different culture being criticized and wanting to force everyone to help retards and lesbians that suck the economy dry? how about fuck you both.,,Anonymous,3-2.jpg,6Umw3x6oswcg78dx/2Xjgw==,AU,,1511189630 150222176,150225161,2017-11-20 14:54:51,">>150222176 >AnCap There is no such thing. Ancap threads are meme-ish slide threads and nothing more. Sage",,Anonymous,,,AU,,1511189691 150222176,150226737,2017-11-20 15:09:17,">>150222176 Nap doesn't work Kikes and niggers exist Nat soc is the only realistic path to white freedom",,Anonymous,,,US,,1511190557 150222176,150228449,2017-11-20 15:24:22,">>150224562 >BASH THE FASH",,Anonymous,,,,,1511191462 150222176,150229269,2017-11-20 15:31:11,">>150222176 Sorta related non-news >be communists retards >preach your edgy communist delusions you label ""theories"" you heard about at your liberal arts school can resolve all problems in the world you dont even understand or dont even exist and try hard to destroy society that feeds your worthless lifes >create /leftycucks/ echochamber because everyone is calling out your inner retard >board is a farce repeating the same old stupid shit over and over again and starving on content inbetween the anual chimpout video, while you watch more and more commie countries become not real communism again >3 years in board collapses >board owner becomes totallitarian tyrant forcing his opinion on everyone and banning any leftist and filters any speech he disagrees with >board fucked up by arbitrary new enforced rules because communists dont understand posting economics >board gets completely wiped and rerolled >loyalists start preaching about the success of /leftycucks/ on damage control and start larping as converted /pol/ nazees who where enlightened by their edgy ""subversion"" like /leftyfaggot general/ spam with cringe ""memes"" and bait tier revisionist disinfographics and lack of useful answers to anything to boost the moral >board gets completely wiped and rerolled again >but that wasnt reaaaal communism >/leftcucks/ has never been tried welcome to /leftcucks/ the same shit with the same rules and the same mods and the same communists retards >board is already dying again",,Anonymous,cuckseatupcringelarp.jpg,/Pz9l9yroJfszmsVbQDDdg==,,,1511191871 154246449,154246449,2017-12-23 04:52:36,hippity hoppity get of my property,ANCAP general,Anonymous,$ __1511616713733.jpg,wI/7eEcJNOOHCkgETFVoag==,,,1514004756 154246449,154247562,2017-12-23 05:14:57,That's the dream!,,Anonymous,,,US,,1514006097 154246449,154248200,2017-12-23 05:28:33,Feels so bad that pol isnt ancap anymore,,Anonymous,,,,,1514006913 173934007,173934007,2018-06-03 15:10:42,"I. Only gold and black flags may actively participate in this general. II. Snek flags (misguided libertarian statists) are welcome to sit in and quietly voice their respectful opinion as guests. III. Those displaying State banners will be politely but firmly asked to leave. IV. All communists will be shot on sight. >How do we best overthrow the State? >What have you done, or are you planning to do, to further the cause of liberty? >What's on your reading list? >Where are you from, and how did you become goldpilled? >How do you guard against (((inflation)))? >Is K-POP goldpilled?",/ACG/ - AnCap General . KPOP IS CAPWAVE EDITION,Anonymous,tumblr_p3vfewbKxp1x1hhhio8_400.jpg,kOPjghZz67oJxkwITSmSPw==,,,1528038642 173934007,173936821,2018-06-03 15:39:41,"Have a bump >How do we best overthrow the State? In Hans-Hermann Hoppe's ""What Must Be Done"", it is described that the revolution must be done from top-down in a monarchy or similar government, but bottom-up in a democracy. >What have you done, or are you planning to do, to further the cause of liberty? >What's on your reading list? ""Withur We"" by Matthew Bruce Alexander, ""The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"" by Robert Heinlein, and a bunch of works from Hoppe, Mises, and Rothbard that I found from a couple different online sources. >Where are you from, and how did you become goldpilled? USA, became goldpilled when I started looking into Thomas Jefferson's ideas about how government should be limited, and I really like the constitution with the bill of rights before the State started taking too much power. I followed this line of thinking to its logical conclusion, in which the government will keep taking power as its citizens will allow it. >How do you guard against (((inflation)))? Idk I'm not an economist and don't understand the economy well enough yet to have a good answer to that. >Is K-POP goldpilled? I don't listen to it, so no opinion. I'll finish with a Jefferson quote: ""A government strong enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.""",,Anonymous,,,,,1528040381 173934007,173937297,2018-06-03 15:44:31,>trying to have actual discussion on 4pol,,Anonymous,Ddm0ihGU0AAGfV5.jpg,N1uY6Ov5KV0tLetLQKh9xw==,US,,1528040671 185613438,185613438,2018-09-13 18:43:49,"BREAKING NEWS: REPUBLICANS REVEAL NEW TAX CUTS https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/11/17845780/kevin-brady-republican-permanent-tax-cuts NESARA INCOMING",/AC/ AnCap General FUCK TAXES Edition,Anonymous,2womp.png,Q2/wmskHHG9jPLnf6+QwoQ==,,,1536864229 185613438,185613533,2018-09-13 18:44:49,">>185613438 How DemocRATS can win the Mid-Terms now?",,Anonymous,4d chess.jpg,c5/00YUCqtvFkTEFz4mAzQ==,CA,,1536864289 185613438,185613656,2018-09-13 18:45:55,">>185613533 They'll ramp up the lies as much as they can short-term",,Anonymous,,,,,1536864355 185613438,185615241,2018-09-13 19:01:17,">>185613438 B-but think of the oppressed anon. They needs they gibs",,Anonymous,1536547386411s.jpg,XofX6+3uS+f5WrFRY3XPNg==,US,,1536865277 201973525,201973525,2019-02-03 16:40:41,Ancaps get in here,/AC/ AnCap General - Fuck statists Edition,Anonymous,Anarcho capitalism is per.jpg,K9167ZA4Zyq6AsElvRUDNQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549212041 201973525,201973735,2019-02-03 16:42:58,">>201973525 >stop thinking of the most beneficial methods of improving society.",,Anonymous,,,KR,South Korea,1549212178 201973525,201974002,2019-02-03 16:45:39,">>201973735 >durr if we just spread da wealth everyone will be good",,Anonymous,1499114922301.png,FR3hgIs4acjx5+8FjZ3Pew==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549212339 201973525,201974133,2019-02-03 16:47:07,,,Anonymous,DFF617EF-4964-47F6-8607-E593D0AE40FE.jpg,Ax3JuQvwYUXkiY06VPjvHA==,DE,Germany,1549212427 201973525,201974282,2019-02-03 16:48:47,">>201974133 based",,Anonymous,1485795467638.jpg,SVoN1hZx2iUEv8o6YCLh4A==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549212527 201973525,201974512,2019-02-03 16:51:24,">>201974002 >durrr it's one extreme or another.",,Anonymous,,,KR,South Korea,1549212684 201973525,201974657,2019-02-03 16:52:48,"When you give the Jews more power, stop with the meme ideology",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549212768 201973525,201974736,2019-02-03 16:53:42,">>201974512 >durr lets just take HALF the money see how smart i am",,Anonymous,1511822392779.png,4MMKNdaOmb7niBoD/PSB7g==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549212822 201973525,201974745,2019-02-03 16:53:47,">>201974133 ancap can only be achieved with fascism",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549212827 201973525,201974903,2019-02-03 16:55:38,">>201974657 Do you speak English mohamed?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549212938 201973525,201974990,2019-02-03 16:56:38,">>201974512 >communism will work if we only go half communist",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549212998 201973525,201975112,2019-02-03 16:57:52,">>201974745 Wrong. fascism can only be achieved through ancap",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549213072 201973525,201976404,2019-02-03 17:12:49,,,Anonymous,1546521244175.png,X1JpFe/gKVpSAo5qqkZIEw==,DE,Germany,1549213969 201973525,201976655,2019-02-03 17:15:46,">>201973525 >Be NatSoc >come to AnCap land >gather fellow NatSocs who voluntarily join me because they have a human desire for family, community and legacy >recruit more NatSocs and give them military training >invade some AnCap cuck shed neighborhood and take all their shit by force >NAP was violated, but all the people whose rights have been trampled have been killed >the other cucks can watch and shout ""THEY WON'T DO THIS TO ME!"" >but they're alone >we steamroll them and take their shit >NatSoc utopia accomplished The group wins over the individual",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549214146 201973525,201976925,2019-02-03 17:19:10,">>201976655 enjoy your McNuke larping faggot",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549214350 201973525,201977144,2019-02-03 17:21:44,">>201974282 >A society is compromised of individuals WRONG. There is no such thing as an ""individual"". No matter how much you love the fantasy of the lone cowboy, it's just that: a fantasy. In reality, every single man or woman has a context, a community. Be it their family, neighborhood, colleagues or even his barber or cashier at the nearby supermarket. Alone (individually), you cannot exist. You need a support network of people that you can trust. In past times, that support network was first the family, then the tribe, then the nation. Their common blood, soil and history has made them feel connected, and has made them more than strangers ""persuing their interests under voluntary interactions"". It's not just about transactional thinking, but about generational love and duty. The old must teach the young, the young want to be guided by the experienced. The men selflessly work for their families, and they must trust their wives to be faithful and not squander their resources. ""Individualism"" is a myth and there is no instance of a society in any point of history that has successfully had an ""individualist"" system. They are doomed to fail because humans aren't lone wolves, they are tribal creatures.",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549214504 201973525,201977171,2019-02-03 17:22:07,">>201976925 >speaks of McNuke >accuses others of larping l m a o",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549214527 201973525,201977258,2019-02-03 17:23:03,">>201977144 t. dependent faggot",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549214583 201973525,201977319,2019-02-03 17:23:50,">>201977171 nice argument commie",,Anonymous,0E16C7B8-565A-4D39-A064-F.jpg,KD/fzCBaf82XQSKl+4ehpA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549214630 201973525,201977486,2019-02-03 17:25:50,">>201977258 Do you grow your own food?",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549214750 201973525,201977848,2019-02-03 17:29:55,">>201977486 Whats your argument commie?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549214995 201973525,201978475,2019-02-03 17:36:56,">>201976655 We'll have the superior weaponry and defense systems. My ""Amazon Alexa Automated Railgun Defense System™"" will be set to killing Natsocs. It will shoot commies in the legs. I'll make them bleed.",,Anonymous,1548552125517.jpg,gzxWEjwSak9gh1ArdvLAig==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549215416 201973525,201978485,2019-02-03 17:37:05,">>201977848 >>201977848 I'm not a commie, I'm a German Supremacist. I want Germans to rule the world and eradicate all the lesser races on the planet. Commies don't care about race, I do. Now with that out of the way: If you don't grow your own food and haven't built your own house, or basically if you're not doing everything yourself (which I'm sure you're not), then you are dependent on others to do it for you. You can offer them money, but what if the entire world was full of niggers who just want to kill you and don't care about your money? Would you just go silently into the night? AnCaps are faggots who believe everybody on this planet is an above average IQ White male who agrees with their fantasy ideology. And this is a terrible sign of an ideology: People need to agree on it in order for it to work. A good society would take humans (or rather the respective race/ethnicity) in its natural way, observe it from all perspectives, and determine a fitting society specially tailored for it. But AnCapism is doomed to fail, just like communism, because it requires an idea of a human that simply doesn't permeate through our species. AnCapism is a fantasy ideology for intelligent White males, who project their own desires unto an entire society. But where is the place in your society for women? Or old people? Or children? Do they all need to be libertarian utilitarians? If a child steps onto your neighbor's lawn without permission, can he simply nuke his parent's house? If your wife makes a crash with your car, will the damaged party see it as a violation of the NAP and mow her down with a shotgun? What are u even thinking?",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549215425 201973525,201978577,2019-02-03 17:38:15,"communism capitalism different hands of the same jew",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549215495 201973525,201978601,2019-02-03 17:38:31,">>201978475 >We'll have the superior weaponry and defense systems. No, you won't, because we have infilitrated all your corporations and stopped selling weapons to you. We can sell to whoever we want, because nobody can force us to sell to non-NatSocs. You're cuckolds asking to be eradicated by an invasive ideology that is more organized and determined. AnCapism is a fantasy ideology for American larpers.",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549215511 201973525,201978700,2019-02-03 17:39:34,">>201978475 based >>201978485 >german supremacist >gets beat in both world wars >but it was da joos! >we waz kangz you're worse than niggers",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549215574 201973525,201978830,2019-02-03 17:41:04,">>201978577 so is socialism faggot >>201978601 >ancap >not organised t. bases political thoughts off of memes",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549215664 201973525,201978846,2019-02-03 17:41:13,">>201978700 >>gets beat in both world wars You violated the NAP by entering into WW2.",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549215673 201973525,201978848,2019-02-03 17:41:15,I wanna strangle one of you fat maggots,,Anonymous,43986027.jpg,X2OMwYVco8FOOD05dJfUjQ==,,Commie,1549215675 201973525,201979002,2019-02-03 17:42:59,">>201974736 >your soul represents a time frame in Germany where a strong centralized government was in charge.",,Anonymous,,,KR,South Korea,1549215779 201973525,201979026,2019-02-03 17:43:18,">>201974990 >what is a monopoly",,Anonymous,,,KR,South Korea,1549215798 201973525,201979043,2019-02-03 17:43:26,">>201978846 >violates NAP >cries when we do it to you lmao >>201978848 suck it commie",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549215806 201973525,201979118,2019-02-03 17:44:22,">>201979002 That's Chile dumbass >>201979026 The government",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549215862 201973525,201979133,2019-02-03 17:44:37,">>201978475 >Implying the Alex railgun system will be used by common people and not defending Bezos's palace while you're toiling away in the Amazon warehouse with Shaniqua and Pajeet micro-managing your every move.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549215877 201973525,201979212,2019-02-03 17:45:38,">>201979133 That's called Corporatism newfag, it requires a state",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549215938 201973525,201979269,2019-02-03 17:46:16,">>201973525 Why non aggression? Are you afraid someone is gonna be stronger than you?",,Anonymous,,,IT,Italy,1549215976 201973525,201979341,2019-02-03 17:47:03,">>201979212 >Implying Amazon wouldn't fuck you over without a state.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549216023 201973525,201979401,2019-02-03 17:47:35,">>201979269 I don't mind people aggressing but you'll get nuked",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216055 201973525,201979487,2019-02-03 17:48:37,">>201973525 ancaps lost me with their whole ""open border"" shit. they love mexican cock. I'm sure its cool, until MS13 starts fucking up your niggerhood.",,Anonymous,aztec1.jpg,Y/4VUMtg/v40vxagNVe5/w==,US,United States,1549216117 201973525,201979489,2019-02-03 17:48:40,">>201979341 Why would i buy from amazon without a state?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216120 201973525,201979550,2019-02-03 17:49:28,">>201979487 We're not open borders dumbass",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216168 201973525,201979575,2019-02-03 17:49:47,">>201979489 You'd still want your consumer products with 2 day shipping without having to go to a store full of niggers, beaners, or whatever other diversity.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549216187 201973525,201979628,2019-02-03 17:50:30,">>201979401 Where do you get nukes anyway.",,Anonymous,,,IT,Italy,1549216230 201973525,201979638,2019-02-03 17:50:40,">>201977144 Yes the slave genes have been bred into many men as to want to be a selfless slave, we must segregate with them, without us I doubt they will thrive.",,Anonymous,,,NL,Netherlands,1549216240 201973525,201979752,2019-02-03 17:52:02,">>201979575 >thinking amazon would have a monopoly without a state >>201979628 kek",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216322 201973525,201979872,2019-02-03 17:53:24,">>201979118 So you aren't really about the an part of ancap as long as you are subjugated by Walmart rather than a federal agency.",,Anonymous,,,KR,South Korea,1549216404 201973525,201979911,2019-02-03 17:53:52,">>201979752 You'd still eventually end up with a monopoly.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549216432 201973525,201979948,2019-02-03 17:54:18,">>201979872 subjugation makes the state",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216458 201973525,201980106,2019-02-03 17:56:00,">>201979911 far less likely",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216560 201973525,201980224,2019-02-03 17:57:25,">>201980106 Might happen even faster. Companies in the same field get tired of competing and just decide to join together.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549216645 201973525,201980440,2019-02-03 17:59:39,">>201980224 >dude companies will just merge for no reason lmao",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216779 201973525,201980591,2019-02-03 18:01:17,">>201979026 literally the only way a monopoly exsists is through state intervention. No wonder you guys need to be slaves to school just to learn rote memorization.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549216877 201973525,201980595,2019-02-03 18:01:19,">>201980440 The reason is they get tired of the competition. Why compete with one another when we can fix prices or just merge into one entity and not worry about competition anymore and focus on the money?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549216879 201973525,201980753,2019-02-03 18:03:12,">>201973525 How many generations of incest needed your ancestors to create such dumb creatures that would go for a pathetic and weak so called political philosophy that would turn you literally into the slave?You don't even got aesthetics,just autistic memes.",,Anonymous,5f4450767c0835b3dfd2d11de12cb733.jpg,hqB8/Z+bwPP2ZfQlteAAXw==,,Commie,1549216992 201973525,201980774,2019-02-03 18:03:32,">>201980224 yes that is what happens when government hinders competition through regulation. The market finds the path of least resistance, without crippling regulation, the path of least resistance would be competition not regulatory capture and cartelization.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549217012 201973525,201980943,2019-02-03 18:05:47,">>201980774 The path of least resistance would be ""hey, our 2 companies are one another's top competitors in this industry. Let's join together so we can stop worrying about competition and make more money.""",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549217147 201973525,201980969,2019-02-03 18:06:09,">>201980595 you have fallen under the spell of the State which says ""why don't we do things this way?"" ""Oh man, that actually made it worse, well your in luck I think if we double down on my previous idea it will work this time."" repeat this for 100 years and here we are, where idiots like you think that the solution to the problems associated with socialization of the free market are the fault of the free market and not the socialization.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549217169 201973525,201980973,2019-02-03 18:06:15,">Lets have all of the exact same features of a state but we won't call it a state >hey guys I'm an anarchist",,Anonymous,cfd15ec99e606523a53164d285a4419bcc9d3f2cc56cdcda269e6b4b3941dd6e.png,Ei7EtpCvP7VH7IKEPAlH3w==,US,United States,1549217175 201973525,201981357,2019-02-03 18:11:00,">>201980943 there wouldn't be 2 companies, there would be many, because of the lack of crushing regulation. Merging would not be in the interests of the shareholders, who would want to increase market share, not decrease it by sharing. Merging would hopelessly complicate the business meaning smaller competitors would innovate around the company. Finally, without a government to bribe, they could not dissuade competitors entering the market.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549217460 201973525,201981400,2019-02-03 18:11:30,">>201980973 t. bootlicker",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549217490 201973525,201981426,2019-02-03 18:11:50,">>201980969 The ""free market"" loves pushing all the social engineering. Rainbow flag faggots and hordes of mud people make great consumers. We get Ancapistan tomorrow and we say hello to the new Chinese overlords.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549217510 201973525,201981469,2019-02-03 18:12:29,">>201980753 irony and self awareness, thy name is communists.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549217549 201973525,201981563,2019-02-03 18:13:42,">>201981426 ...ah ok so you are 16 and don't remember life before the communists destroyed our market, got it.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549217622 201973525,201981788,2019-02-03 18:16:13,">>201981400 Can you read? Are you new here? Do you understand what green text means? What's the difference between licking the boot of a government official or cop and that of a CEO or mercenary?",,Anonymous,후-1-lyk-1-spoot-1123375.png,HvOFrLPicDNDfmFVQ9SUpg==,US,United States,1549217773 201973525,201981818,2019-02-03 18:16:36,">>201981469 irony irony,some years ago when we had a little military exercise all the west was pissing it's pants",,Anonymous,,,,Commie,1549217796 201973525,201981829,2019-02-03 18:16:44,">>201981357 >there wouldn't be 2 companies, there would be many, because of the lack of crushing regulation. Why would you assume there would be many? A lot of these many companies wouldn't make the cut and would be destroyed or absorbed into bigger organizations. >Merging would not be in the interests of the shareholders, who would want to increase market share, not decrease it by sharing You're a powerful competitor merging with another powerful competitor. Your market share is going to go up. You're now the big kid on the block. >Merging would hopelessly complicate the business meaning smaller competitors would innovate around the company. >Finally, without a government to bribe, they could not dissuade competitors entering the market. Larger entities within the same industry would have an easier time, and far more capital to destroy emerging competitors. The larger entity can do much more innovation with the resources at it's disposal. >Finally, without a government to bribe, they could not dissuade competitors entering the market. They would just go directly to a competitor or potential competitor.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549217804 201973525,201982233,2019-02-03 18:22:12,">>201980595 >fixing prices without unions or the state",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549218132 201973525,201982351,2019-02-03 18:23:41,">>201981426 >free market pushes social engineering can't get much dumber than this",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549218221 201973525,201982412,2019-02-03 18:24:34,">>201978846 the US entering WW2 was because of JP violation of NAP. >>201978485 clearly, you aren't clear on what constitutes as a NAP violation. also, write less words, statist faggot.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549218274 201973525,201982561,2019-02-03 18:26:20,">>201982233 Sure, you just talk to your biggest competitor, hash out the details, and there you have it.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549218380 201973525,201982634,2019-02-03 18:27:14,">>201982351 Big business wants consumers. Nobody consumes like rainbow fag wavers and second/third world mud people. Pretty easy to follow.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549218434 201973525,201982693,2019-02-03 18:27:52,The Ancaps are taking over! We're coming for you globalists!,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549218472 201973525,201982837,2019-02-03 18:29:38,">>201982351 So Google and facebook don't push social engineering? I don't have a caved in head sufficient for you.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549218578 201973525,201982877,2019-02-03 18:30:05,">>201982412 japan violated the NAP, not saying we should have went to war though >>201982561 Then i just buy from someone else, welcome to the free market >>201982634 >not knowing the history of social engineering",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549218605 201973525,201982966,2019-02-03 18:31:13,">>201982693 based and redpilled! >>201982837 Are you really this retarded bro?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549218673 201973525,201983036,2019-02-03 18:32:05,">>201982877 >NAP is it 2012 again?",,Anonymous,Untitled-2.png,ysh6SV2pKAXBDMJ/2ZoaZg==,US,United States,1549218725 201973525,201983102,2019-02-03 18:32:58,">>201982966 What's the phrase? Not an argument?",,Anonymous,1470856696764.png,nTkAKJ6Ky0NMQS57ElrOAA==,US,United States,1549218778 201973525,201983113,2019-02-03 18:33:11,">>201983036 >morality is subjective what?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549218791 201973525,201983213,2019-02-03 18:34:21,">>201983102 Google and Facebook are government funded at the very least you dumb fucking nigger",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549218861 201973525,201983254,2019-02-03 18:34:49,">>201983113 Are you claiming to have the absolute objective moral code? Do tell because humans have been fighting over this for little bit.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549218889 201973525,201983319,2019-02-03 18:35:36,">>201983036 Morality is subjective in the way that individuals have their own morality, that doesn't mean we should accept inferior moralities.",,Anonymous,,,NL,Netherlands,1549218936 201973525,201983337,2019-02-03 18:35:48,">>201982877 >Then i just buy from someone else, welcome to the free market But the merged company offers way cheaper prices and the place you're going to is running out of business. >not knowing the history of social engineering You've been socially engineered into the capitalist/socialist dichotomy.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549218948 201973525,201983423,2019-02-03 18:36:43,">>201983254 For there to be morality at all there must be some objective basis to it",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219003 201973525,201983468,2019-02-03 18:37:07,How would an AnCap society stop non-whites taking over?,,Anonymous,1538850549977.png,ZrDokFfPZk0mwn8r9fBK4Q==,GB,United Kingdom,1549219027 201973525,201983481,2019-02-03 18:37:16,">>201983213 They use infrastructure that was partially built by the government but that's as far as it goes.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219036 201973525,201983494,2019-02-03 18:37:27,">>201983337 >i will buy anything just because it is cheaper >being this retarded",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219047 201973525,201983563,2019-02-03 18:38:27,National socialists are just ancaps that haven't read ayn rand,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219107 201973525,201983568,2019-02-03 18:38:32,"The following activities should be legalized or decriminalized: Strikebreaking Employing children Payday Loans Squatting Adervse Possesion Hate speech Lolicon/Shotacon Discrimination in places of ""public accomodation"" p2p piracy Prostitution and Pimping Catcalling Upskirt Creepshots Revenge porn Fucking adult employees/bosses Riding horses on the highway Fishing with explosives Rolling coal Ford Pintos surge pricing ticket scalping Price gouging in natural disasters Outsourcing jobs to foreigners Selling your kidneys Heroin for 5-year-olds child-selling pooping in public public sex Dueling petty theft, especially of basic staples tax evasion Sex dolls that look young Sex with teenagers older than puberty Consumption of dogs and cats Ownership of anti-aircraft machine guns and rocket launchers Bounty hunting Slumlording Citizen's Arrests",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219112 201973525,201983605,2019-02-03 18:39:05,">>201983468 Hoppean covenants >>201983481 Oh yeah for sure you dumbfuck nigger https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/security/2018/03/why-google-working-pentagon https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/02/google-working-on-censored-search-engine-for-china",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219145 201973525,201983690,2019-02-03 18:40:02,">>201983494 >assuming everyone else is making your consumer choices Everyone else is going to the big guy to pay less and save more money. You are one person making that choice. Most people are going to go with the easiest route and choose the big guy on the block.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219202 201973525,201983771,2019-02-03 18:40:56,">>201983605 What do you mean? Small isolated white communities? How does that stop my Island becoming majority non-white?",,Anonymous,1539901862888.jpg,fq2C8qAMCYjpRpK2StJC1w==,GB,United Kingdom,1549219256 201973525,201983775,2019-02-03 18:41:00,">>201983563 Hoppe is better imo",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219260 201973525,201983817,2019-02-03 18:41:28,">>201973525 Ya",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219288 201973525,201983833,2019-02-03 18:41:36,">>201977144 >You need a support network of people that you can trust This is exactly why a free society is better because people necessarily are forced to build high trust relationships with the people they surround themselves with because daddy government isn't going to step and fix your problems for you. It is precisely this interconnectedness of human relationships that a free society uses as a stabilizing force. Instead of having legal relationships with only a few large entities like the government and the few large corporations you interact with you would have many different legal relationships with a higher cost to severing. The main advantage of a free society is that it becomes more expensive to damage other people's property and livelihood than with the existence of the large criminal gang that is the state.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219296 201973525,201983856,2019-02-03 18:41:55,">>201983468 The end result of an Ancap society is basically Disneyland. Just keep the nogs out.",,Anonymous,,,,Fascist,1549219315 201973525,201983915,2019-02-03 18:42:37,">>201983690 >implying people buy the absolute cheapest goods dumb fuck nigger >>201983771 Kind of yes Physical removal, read Hoppe",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219357 201973525,201983957,2019-02-03 18:43:14,Sieg Heil my comrades,,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219394 201973525,201983980,2019-02-03 18:43:35,">>201973735 invisible hand bro. People working in their own interests can often benefit the general interest better than they could if they tried to work for the general interest directly",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219415 201973525,201984067,2019-02-03 18:44:32,">>201983423 Then I'll ask you what is to be done about children. You know, people who are not rational agents. Rothbard doesn't even have an answer to this. Ancaps are always asked about their extreme private property stance because it immediately begs the question. .""what if people start child brothels on their property?"" >implying you don't want this and its why you're an ancap. The best they've got is that children are the property of their parents. Well what if their parents want to pimp them out?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219472 201973525,201984078,2019-02-03 18:44:40,">>201983856 >>201983915 What if there are AnCap communities that don't physically remove nogs? (As they most likely wont') What's preventing Muslims from forming a state and just steamrolling places.",,Anonymous,1520360802154.png,Tc8PG5ase1JFNerP04nE+g==,GB,United Kingdom,1549219480 201973525,201984082,2019-02-03 18:44:40,">>201983775 Against immigration, never heard of him until now awesome thanks for the tip. That's the one thing that always bugged me about pure libertarianism",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219480 201973525,201984100,2019-02-03 18:44:53,">>201973525 This thread needs more memes.",,Anonymous,government-vs-me-wrong.jpg,HGeqw7soHcMVLikJbrNDww==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219493 201973525,201984105,2019-02-03 18:44:55,">>201980595 >Cartels last forever and nobody in the cartel would ever dream of trying to undercut their competitors alright pal",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219495 201973525,201984167,2019-02-03 18:45:38,">>201983915 Uhhh, yeah, the masses generally look for the best deal. They're going to get the discounted TV at Walmart, 20$ the headphones at Amazon, or use those coupons they got in the mail at Kroger. Are you really this fucking retarded and autistic that you don't understand how the normal masses think? Wait, you're an Ancap, so of course you don't.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219538 201973525,201984186,2019-02-03 18:45:50,">>201984078 There are communities physically removing nogs now, it's called gentrification.",,Anonymous,,,,Fascist,1549219550 201973525,201984208,2019-02-03 18:46:07,">>201983833 This. Government always breaks the bonds of communities, directly and indirectly >>201983856 That's the main problem building it successfully and keeping psychopaths and low IQ niggers out",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219567 201973525,201984258,2019-02-03 18:46:47,">>201984105 Thank you for admitting that Ancapistan would basically be a bunch of cartels.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219607 201973525,201984293,2019-02-03 18:47:13,">>201984186 I wish that would happen here.",,Anonymous,1539228851278.jpg,xTNSlv1o/5bKM8Tlxnq+yw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549219633 201973525,201984300,2019-02-03 18:47:18,">>201981829 >He has no idea what dyseconomies of scale are Why do you think the government is so bad? This is part of the reason why.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219638 201973525,201984407,2019-02-03 18:48:40,">>201984067 Degenerates and pedophiles will be physically removed, also children and retards cannot consent >>201984078 America used to be an Ancap state, a gun behind every blade of grass keeps enemies at bay >>201984082 No problem bro fake commie libertarians are a big problem nowadays",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219720 201973525,201984468,2019-02-03 18:49:18,"4chan's moderators are compromised, they have been paid off, infiltrated or blackmailed, hence why shill/slide threads are not being deleted anymore, while good, normal threads are. They are promoting Communist/Democratic Socialist rhetoric and cracking down on more Libertarian angles, while allowing for clearly troll threads to live on. Spread this message and fuck the mods.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549219758 201973525,201984529,2019-02-03 18:50:04,">>201984067 What do you think we did to the people who sacrificed their kids to molech? Physically remove them. Nobody is going to put up with that kind of thing in their community.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219804 201973525,201984530,2019-02-03 18:50:06,">>201984067 Children aren't property. Stop judging only by memes. Children are humans as well and have just as many right as everybody else, but the most responsibilities lie with their trustees (aka parents). Parents can't abuse their children, otherwise, people will come and take them away from them. Children can't give consent, because they don't have developed enough logical thinking and don't know most of the consequences of their own actions, so until they reach an age where they can prove that they have cognitive abilities (around age 16-18, although some people develop later), they can't take many decisions and other people can't justify abusing them.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219806 201973525,201984553,2019-02-03 18:50:22,">>201984167 >not knowing the difference between discounts and normal prices Christ you're retarded",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219822 201973525,201984602,2019-02-03 18:50:51,"The government shouldn't even deal in money, just forms of authority. Morality and the use of Force. The fact that government has a declared currency is a mistake. There shouldn't even be a central currency, let alone a central bank. Steps should always be taken by government to break any form of monopoly and ensure fair competition.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219851 201973525,201984603,2019-02-03 18:50:52,">>201984407 >America used to be an Ancap state, a gun behind every blade of grass keeps enemies at bay We're not in the 19th century anymore. Travelling and immigration is much easier now, and the USA didn't have to face millions of arabs and non-whites flooding into their home nation. Also surely an AnCap ""state"" is contradictory?",,Anonymous,1519043057934.png,LiK8DxjTn1RLoCDFCnKCrw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549219852 201973525,201984610,2019-02-03 18:50:54,,,Anonymous,statism.png,miyUpugMvfe0akpSU81byg==,GB,United Kingdom,1549219854 201973525,201984629,2019-02-03 18:51:14,">>201984100 based",,Anonymous,_20181013_150921.jpg,YW5NLCCd2TrwhwEKPM0JxQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219874 201973525,201984697,2019-02-03 18:52:07,">>201983568 This but unironically.",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549219927 201973525,201984751,2019-02-03 18:52:41,">>201984603 Well an Ancap society whatever you wanna call it",,Anonymous,6fe77226c9855b7619c1d3530(...).jpg,v/CuPJN9V5EfnLnh+y4fFw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549219961 201973525,201984807,2019-02-03 18:53:14,">>201984603 Government isn't governed. No one can call it to task. It is an ancap entity.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549219994 201973525,201984862,2019-02-03 18:53:58,">>201983568 >Price gouging in natural disasters This one especially. There is nothing wrong with price gouging during natural disasters. https://www.aei.org/publication/a-challenge-for-supporters-of-anti-price-gouging-laws-when-does-a-fair-legal-price-become-unfair-gouging/ So much bullshit gets passed into law because it sounds good. Minimum wage is the same kind of shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220038 201973525,201984867,2019-02-03 18:54:03,">>201984407 So you're going to violate the NAP, invade someone else's property and enact force upon them? How are you an anarchist again?",,Anonymous,47026786_1776583842468895_8194264221664411648_n.jpg,F0ceQ4j7LJ2VvTGqW7NcXw==,US,United States,1549220043 201973525,201984916,2019-02-03 18:54:35,>>201984610,,Anonymous,statistlogic.jpg,BW8j98oR3JnIsGJqtc8gNg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220075 201973525,201984976,2019-02-03 18:55:20,>>201984610,,Anonymous,1470615592072.jpg,zbiOyVqKPUIkwB46Vwxh8Q==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220120 201973525,201984996,2019-02-03 18:55:35,">>201984751 Okay, can you answer my question? How does an AnCap society protect themselves from mass migration and the browning of traditionally European places in the 21st century? >>201984807 I don't understand, surely a state is contradictory with Anarchism?",,Anonymous,1537921431453.jpg,ZORRF9CMKatcqV1yb7vHQw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549220135 201973525,201984998,2019-02-03 18:55:37,">>201979487 Misgideing shill, back to your hole.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220137 201973525,201985101,2019-02-03 18:56:48,">>201984553 The bigger entity is going to always be able to low-ball the competitor, whether it's constantly low prices or sales they're running because the lower-rung competitor just put the product out and they want to run them out. I have to explain to an Ancap how a bigger business runs another one off, wow......",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220208 201973525,201985116,2019-02-03 18:56:57,">>201984996 Hoppean covenants",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220217 201973525,201985145,2019-02-03 18:57:17,">>201984996 The state becomes an individual.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220237 201973525,201985161,2019-02-03 18:57:26,">>201984996 If you took away social safety nets, the shit skins would leave",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220246 201973525,201985201,2019-02-03 18:57:57,">>201973525 enjoy your neofeudalism",,Anonymous,,,AU,Australia,1549220277 201973525,201985228,2019-02-03 18:58:16,">>201985116 Brah, just accept that what you really want is monarchy. That's the logical conclusion of ancap.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220296 201973525,201985316,2019-02-03 18:59:14,">>201973525 >MUH INDIVIDULISM >MUH FREEDUMS >MUH LIBERTY Ancaps are just Americans who can't comprehend a world without cheeseburgers and cummies.",,Anonymous,,,DK,Denmark,1549220354 201973525,201985345,2019-02-03 18:59:35,">>201985316 you are a nigger, D&Cing the right. kill yourself tranny shill",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549220375 201973525,201985364,2019-02-03 18:59:48,">>201985116 You've already said that. Tiny isolated covenants doesn't stop millions of people from migrating here and it doesn't stop a conquering Muslim state seeking to expand, especially here. >>201985145 I still don't understand, what? >>201985161 Not if they sought to conquer.",,Anonymous,1529355317997.png,sIuD6+6A/32gI3arr9FwJQ==,GB,United Kingdom,1549220388 201973525,201985396,2019-02-03 19:00:08,">>201985161 No they wouldn't. Our fucking prisons are better than life in their shitholes.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220408 201973525,201985422,2019-02-03 19:00:20,">>201985101 Yes well done and that destroys variety how?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220420 201973525,201985542,2019-02-03 19:01:32,">>201985145 When the State becomes an individual and it's too powerful for any entity to control it becomes and behaves as an anarchist capitalist.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220492 201973525,201985553,2019-02-03 19:01:50,">>201985364 They're not tiny lad all you have to do is sign a contract and behave appropriately, violate these voluntary and social conditions and you'll be physically removed",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220510 201973525,201985640,2019-02-03 19:02:53,"> Autism vs Autism Gee...whiz..",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220573 201973525,201985663,2019-02-03 19:03:05,">>201974282 >compromised of individuals >>compromised Fucking A.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220585 201973525,201985691,2019-02-03 19:03:27,">>201985364 Over here >>201985542",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220607 201973525,201985726,2019-02-03 19:03:46,">>201980943 >Let's join together so we can stop worrying about competition and make more money. >>201981829 https://wiki.mises.org/wiki/Cartel Analysis demonstrates that a cartel is an inherently unstable form of operation: If pooling resources is more profitable, then the cartel will merge into one company. If it proves to be less profitable, the individual members of the cartel will break off. If it doesn’t break from within, an outsider, noticing the enormous profitability, will enter the market, and this dooms the cartel.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220626 201973525,201985784,2019-02-03 19:04:26,">>201985553 You're missing my point completely and focusing on irrelevant stuff. Say I make a white Ethnostate in South West England, no non-whites allowed. What's stopping an Islamic state forming and growing stronger in London and taking over all of England?",,Anonymous,1548319664320.png,UIa1Tpniqv9Bj+lYXEyosw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549220666 201973525,201985829,2019-02-03 19:04:57,">>201973525 >implying individualism works with multiculturalism Nice try",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220697 201973525,201985898,2019-02-03 19:05:46,">>201985691 What do you mean ""when the state becomes an individual"". When the ruling body of a state acts in its own interests rather than the interests of the people?",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549220746 201973525,201985911,2019-02-03 19:05:52,">>201985422 Now with the competitors run off or bought up you're stuck with the big entity for just about everything. Now the only variety you're offered is what the big entity wants to give you.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220752 201973525,201985940,2019-02-03 19:06:12,">>201974657 >1 post by this ID fuck off shill",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220772 201973525,201985950,2019-02-03 19:06:19,">>201985784 There are many ways to make a border and many ways to keep out shitskins, IQ tests proving your place of birth etc, and physical removal of already embedded commie subversives",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220779 201973525,201985951,2019-02-03 19:06:20,">>201983036 >>NAP >is it 2012 again? It is a highly dubious to claim that an ancap thinks morality is subjective. Clearly an ancap didn't make that.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220780 201973525,201985988,2019-02-03 19:06:47,"INDIVIDUALISM IS NOT ATOMIZATION. This meme needs to stop. For a group to be integral, the individual needs to be respected. To disrespect the individual is democratic in nature and degenerates the social tissue. If you want an ethnostate, it can be best achieved through libertarianism. Stay vigilant.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549220807 201973525,201986026,2019-02-03 19:07:19,">>201983102 >What's the phrase? Not an argument? Not an example of ancap. NAP u, fgt.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220839 201973525,201986174,2019-02-03 19:09:03,">>201985898 The United States government has become a corporation in all but name. A legal person.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549220943 201973525,201986182,2019-02-03 19:09:07,">>201985988 Fucking this. Autist commies can't abstract ideas",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220947 201973525,201986237,2019-02-03 19:09:52,">>201985201 >>enjoy your neofeudalism >what we have now is, literally, neofeudalism >""in fee simple"" land deeds cool strawman, bro.",,Anonymous,14222254_660593027449069_538373925475020152_n.jpg,kZTz1bRS2wq9pbPoMJAryg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549220992 201973525,201986301,2019-02-03 19:10:32,"Anon are you being a dense on purpose? Let me simplify it. Covenant A is white land. Covenant B is a covenant that allows migration, eventually Covenant B becomes majority Muslim. Covenant B will be in the city, because that's where non-whites are. What's stopping Covenant B from just forming a state with an army, and conquering Covenant A?",,Anonymous,1542027300336.png,PhcS4VHFhCt1MknBBVpxVQ==,GB,United Kingdom,1549221032 201973525,201986333,2019-02-03 19:10:50,">>201986301 meant for >>201985950",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549221050 201973525,201986339,2019-02-03 19:10:53,">>201986174 Yes 0% tax for the rich and 100% tax for the poor",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221053 201973525,201986356,2019-02-03 19:11:04,">>201985726 >Break off with no consequences topkek >outsider coming in and ruining things without getting crushed first I haven't laughed that hard in a while.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549221064 201973525,201986361,2019-02-03 19:11:05,">>201985988 Checked. Any ethnostate can be done by having freedom of association. When enough people get together and decide not to sell or rent to people of other skin color, nobody can justify forcing them to. They can boycott them and refuse to service them, but not force them to mix races.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221065 201973525,201986469,2019-02-03 19:12:19,">>201973525 you called?",,Anonymous,free.png,JnIb2WjV/FKXLlippE83xA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221139 201973525,201986491,2019-02-03 19:12:31,">>201986301 So you're talking about neighboring armies and states/covenants? A covenant can be any size you know",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221151 201973525,201986513,2019-02-03 19:12:47,">>201986301 A McFuckingNuke - or more, as people will be able to make or buy them freely to defend themselves.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221167 201973525,201986641,2019-02-03 19:14:11,">>201976655 joke's on you I have a contract with a nuclear armed security firm",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221251 201973525,201986704,2019-02-03 19:15:05,">>201985542 >When the State becomes an individual and it's too powerful for any entity to control it becomes and behaves as an anarchist capitalist. wew lad For starters, the currently accepted view of sovereignty makes us have to treat the State as king. It is basically communism since ""sovereignty"" is expressed by the collective whole of the citizens instead of from the king or queen as in bongland. American law borrows HEAVILY from the Laws of England. In contrast, anarchism sees every *INDIVIDUAL* as a sovereign. We treat each other AS KINGS OR QUEENS, while recognizing that we too are kings and queens. It is the only acceptable footing. Bitching and moaning about neofeudalism is retarded, since the land ownership we use now is literally neofeudalism. If we are all sovereigns, the land we own is ours absolutely instead of the allodial title being held by the state or the queen in the case of bongland.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221305 201973525,201986785,2019-02-03 19:15:58,">>201986513 >McFuckingNuke >Forgets that Rothbard specifically argued that Nukes should not exist. Do your fuckng homework and stop spreading this faggotry.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221358 201973525,201986802,2019-02-03 19:16:15,"I doubt most people that larp here as ancaps have even read Hoppe (same goes for natsoc idiots that accuse him of being ""lolberg"") since he's pretty much a modern day monarchist and the only thing ancap about him are his minarchist tendencies and his views on price signaling.",,Anonymous,,,CH,Switzerland,1549221375 201973525,201986881,2019-02-03 19:17:13,">>201986802 >I doubt most people that larp here as ancaps have even read Hoppe That might be true. Hoppe is a cultural marxist.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221433 201973525,201986910,2019-02-03 19:17:31,">>201986491 >So you're talking about neighboring armies and states/covenants? I'm saying what's stopping a majority non-white city-based AnCapistan society or whatever you call it from forming a hostile state and just taking over? >>201986513 I'd rather not detonate nukes in Britain",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549221451 201973525,201986954,2019-02-03 19:17:55,">>201986301 Convent A wins by 1. having their defense forces organized in a decentralized way, since they have no state, thus making them much more difficult to trace and win, and 2. they're white, they're much better at military strategics than any other race. Muds stand no chance.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549221475 201973525,201986957,2019-02-03 19:17:57,">>201986881 >Hoppe is a cultural marxist. Your are dumb as a donkey and probably twice as ugly.",,Anonymous,,,CH,Switzerland,1549221477 201973525,201986959,2019-02-03 19:17:56,">>201978601 Based Kraut speaks the truth.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549221476 201973525,201987007,2019-02-03 19:18:29,">>201986785 You believe that Nukes won't be allowed in ancapistan? Especially owned by private security firms? Of course, they wouldn't be on the scale of a Tsar Bomba, but they will be enough to eradicate a small army - and be made with materials that don't emanate radiations for prolonged periods of time.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221509 201973525,201987041,2019-02-03 19:18:54,">>201986802 Exactly. Why I now nom myself a tribalist and not an ancap.",,Anonymous,,,,DEUS VULT,1549221534 201973525,201987052,2019-02-03 19:19:02,">>201986704 That comment is all pilpul. Be less jewish.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549221542 201973525,201987063,2019-02-03 19:19:09,">>201979212 >Corporatism, it requires a state HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549221549 201973525,201987183,2019-02-03 19:20:28,">>201987063 it does, you fucking leaf. tell me how i am to enforce a monopoly without aggression you nigger",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549221628 201973525,201987212,2019-02-03 19:20:53,">>201978485 >I'm not a commie, I'm a German Supremacist. I want Germans to rule the world and eradicate all the lesser races on the planet. Cringe thread? Cringe thread",,Anonymous,batepudding.jpg,E5lWxwGpdVMQk2024s1lvg==,BR,Brazil,1549221653 201973525,201987257,2019-02-03 19:21:17,">>201987183 >tell me how i am to enforce a monopoly without aggression you nigger You can enforce a monopoly with a private army you fucking braindead monkey.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549221677 201973525,201987260,2019-02-03 19:21:19,">>201987007 >You believe that Nukes won't be allowed in ancapistan? Especially owned by private security firms? Of course, they wouldn't be on the scale of a Tsar Bomba, but they will be enough to eradicate a small army - and be made with materials that don't emanate radiations for prolonged periods of time. Absolutely not. They violate the NAP because you can't separate the the the guilty from the innocent. If you manage to technically have a nuke that could do this on a really small scale, well that might be the exception. However, other weapons are just as capable then.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221679 201973525,201987274,2019-02-03 19:21:24,>>201987063,,Anonymous,leaf.png,3i2mqB2AkzhlxJ3BnNOLfw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221684 201973525,201987311,2019-02-03 19:21:51,">>201986641 No, joke's on (you), because i got a monster tripple pack for 9.99/month , where the price is only for 2 and 1 nuke strike is for free. #pwnd",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549221711 201973525,201987330,2019-02-03 19:22:03,">>201986957 >Your are dumb as a donkey and probably twice as ugly. You're just jealous that I fucked your mother. Get over it.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221723 201973525,201987380,2019-02-03 19:22:46,>>201974745,,Anonymous,1535166124092.jpg,Q729ljQP0FbFrIdvBUFF9g==,US,United States,1549221766 201973525,201987394,2019-02-03 19:22:53,">>201987257 THAT IS AGGRESSION YOU FUCKING NIGGER. YOU CANNOT READ.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549221773 201973525,201987409,2019-02-03 19:22:59,">>201986954 That's retarded. Especially in the context of Britain. Majority white areas like Devon aren't exactly overflowing with people or industrial capability. They won't be able to fight off London because they're decentralised. You're talking a population of 5 million vs 30 million, except that 30 million has the ability to produce vehicles, explosives and air support.",,Anonymous,1525969037952.jpg,Yb61FJRF/wz6+hElmHN6MQ==,GB,United Kingdom,1549221779 201973525,201987472,2019-02-03 19:23:36,">>201987052 >That comment is all pilpul. Be less jewish.",,Anonymous,1523150006596.jpg,8W1zhm8fXBvQ/7TY1WxS0Q==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221816 201973525,201987542,2019-02-03 19:24:21,">>201986954 Based and AncapBRpilled",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549221861 201973525,201987543,2019-02-03 19:24:23,">>201986182 >Autist commies can't abstract ideas Abstract ideas are white prillilidge...",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549221863 201973525,201987598,2019-02-03 19:25:05,">>201987380 >pic related lies",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221905 201973525,201987668,2019-02-03 19:26:03,">>201973525 liberal conservatism>anarcho-capitalism",,Anonymous,,,PL,Poland,1549221963 201973525,201987731,2019-02-03 19:26:39,">>201987260 Small nukes are more efficient against tanks and heavy machinery than rockets, lasers, artillery and big railguns - and you don't even need to destroy all the army, just a small portion of it and by the threat of another strike, the incoming forces will just surrender (if they even dare attacking in the first place). Of course, war can be done with other stuff, like fast flying fighter jets, but those can be destroyed with lasers. Today, defense is way better than offense and offense requires a lot of risks - who in their right mind would attack a ""country"" that didn't do anything to them? And if the nearby state tries raising an army to start a pointless war, there will be lots of people batting an eye, not just ancapistan, but other states in proximity as well that might even join in the defense of ancapistan, because of the industry lying in there that they need.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549221999 201973525,201987743,2019-02-03 19:26:49,">>201986182 >Autist Ancap lives in abstraction when the vast majority of people do not give a fuck about their ideology and think they're goofier than Commies.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222009 201973525,201987750,2019-02-03 19:26:52,">>201987394 >Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr agression won't happen if my fantasy becomes a reality Do you think human nature will change alongside the economic system too you retard?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549222012 201973525,201987837,2019-02-03 19:28:06,">>201987380 That's like saying you need to wage war to end all wars. It is counterproductive. Sage !",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222086 201973525,201987867,2019-02-03 19:28:24,">>201987394 >""Why are you attacking me? You've violated the NAP! I'm calling the poli... oh shit...""",,Anonymous,1400037416023.jpg,OKLxt6rJdxoq7tRaLqcG0w==,US,United States,1549222104 201973525,201987916,2019-02-03 19:29:05,">>201987731 > who in their right mind would attack a ""country"" that didn't do anything to them? Are you new?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222145 201973525,201987951,2019-02-03 19:29:29,">>201987409 And they have a port and the money to import weapons, mercenaries, and supplies. As well the diplomatic support of other globalist powers.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549222169 201973525,201988069,2019-02-03 19:30:45,">>201985228 And that king rules nothing if their enforcers get shot at every attempt of subjugation.",,Anonymous,1548899550215.jpg,NrZtGbKCuBl0gpNKjYAn/A==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222245 201973525,201988076,2019-02-03 19:30:52,"Even without a state intervening there will eventually be one mega-everything-corp. It would be inevitable as companies fail in competition with better ones and are bought out, merged bankrupted etc. This process would continue until there is one retailer, one car maker, one bank etc. Then even these conglomerates would begin to merge and acquire one another. Nigger just admit it. You're not an anarchist. You're a god damn boot licking, ring kissing monarchist. The sort of totalitarianism you want to enable is fucking Borg level.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222252 201973525,201988129,2019-02-03 19:31:29,">>201973525 FUCK YES",,Anonymous,865e5d54f50e118703bf5134dca160b9b4c2111406fcfd9d705a91f51e6fa721.jpg,Ho5R+Pol5O+kfCDGGwkctw==,US,United States,1549222289 201973525,201988166,2019-02-03 19:31:49,">>201987731 >Small nukes are more efficient against tanks and heavy machinery than rockets, lasers, artillery and big railguns - and you don't even need to destroy all the army, just a small portion of it and by the threat of another strike, the incoming forces will just surrender (if they even dare attacking in the first place). Just keep in mind that when we talk about ""nukes"" small, tactical weapons are not what most people are referring to. We sound like nutjobs when we use the McNuke meme. It's fucking hilarious *to us* because we know it's just a meme, but everyone else, especially the left, doesn't think (that way?).",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222309 201973525,201988183,2019-02-03 19:32:08,">>201987951 No dude, we'd just win because we're uhh.... white lmao. Dude like haven't you heard of guerrilla warfare in sprawling jungles of and rolling deserts of South West England?",,Anonymous,1546221712840.jpg,s2ILb43Y25ZwA57VI/S9cQ==,GB,United Kingdom,1549222328 201973525,201988284,2019-02-03 19:33:11,Natsocs are low IQ economic illiterates who fetishize aesthetics over logic,,Anonymous,c1b6eba9023c63c8af1282e2c7e17d3af75deacc9b52af977b12ab57eb1d6e91.png,vvhttqlqR9UjzB0jWCol9Q==,US,United States,1549222391 201973525,201988298,2019-02-03 19:33:17,">>201986910 Oh i see well non-white ancap nations would be very rare first of all, second of all normal military doctrine would be practiced and Ancap states would be extremely reluctant to try and invade one another due to heavy armament",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222397 201973525,201988327,2019-02-03 19:33:37,"Stalin was based, ancraps belong in the Gulag.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222417 201973525,201988452,2019-02-03 19:34:59,">>201988076 >g-guys megacorparations >guys look I added mega to a word that I probably cant define, IM SMART >https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100214/who-were-original-dow-jones-industrial-average-djia-companies.asp fuck off and die low IQ bitch",,Anonymous,1494294192268.png,xORZqJpsafjbHT4rgruKbg==,US,United States,1549222499 201973525,201988491,2019-02-03 19:35:31,">>201988327 >stalin was based uhoh someone has AUTISM",,Anonymous,77bf84636dd2a610ebac0edb327a1ee8ddb66bc9a144a3e04a4b881c3942ca8b.png,gSYc5vYeYsi4bE6G3hpVQg==,US,United States,1549222531 201973525,201988502,2019-02-03 19:35:37,">>201988069 The enforcers won't get shot if they are better and more numerous than the people they are shooting. The US doesn't have sprawling jungles to hide in you stupid fag. A lone farmer isn't going to hold out against an organised and more numerous force. Besides most people will submit when facing hopeless odds.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549222537 201973525,201988520,2019-02-03 19:35:47,">>201988076 Welcome to the United States. You will be assimilated.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222547 201973525,201988522,2019-02-03 19:35:49,">>201988069 >It is a non-negotiable condition of your further employment at OmniMegaEverything Corp that you have no blockchain records of purchasing a firearm for yours and our safety. Please sign this agreement as required for your only source of sustenance. You're going to end up in the same place you are now. Authority is authority is authority.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222549 201973525,201988679,2019-02-03 19:36:57,">>201988522 https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/100214/who-were-original-dow-jones-industrial-average-djia-companies.asp please stop being low IQ",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222617 201973525,201988730,2019-02-03 19:37:29,Spooks are spooks.,,Anonymous™,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222649 201973525,201988756,2019-02-03 19:37:42,">>201988298 >non-white ancap nations would be very rare first of all Any AnCap society would be rare because an AnCap society is about as likely as a Communist one, and with half as much support. >second of all normal military doctrine would be practiced and Ancap states would be extremely reluctant to try and invade one another due to heavy armament Right, but in this scenario I want to keep my ""nation"" white. Due to simple demographic factors this means that it would be the rural areas vs the cities. Surely an authoritarian state would be much better for this than a decentralised covenant where everything is voluntary?",,Anonymous,1534037334850.png,jE/19cjcwRByM2K72Am3yQ==,GB,United Kingdom,1549222662 201973525,201988777,2019-02-03 19:37:55,>>201988327,,Anonymous,communiststalinrolling.jpg,Z9aDzGOsOjaj8Et0pR6mwg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222675 201973525,201988821,2019-02-03 19:38:29,">>201988756 >I am european and I dont know how an economic work, bepis? checks out",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222709 201973525,201988840,2019-02-03 19:38:45,">>201976655 Ancaps forever BTFO’d",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222725 201973525,201988878,2019-02-03 19:39:11,">>201988284 >Ancap: ""Natsocs are High IQ economic pragmatists who understand reality over fantasy"" Fixed",,Anonymous,Libertarianism.jpg,YNyUAsv8m0ug8YwwxfLKWQ==,CA,Canada,1549222751 201973525,201988917,2019-02-03 19:39:32,">>201988522 >What is anarchism",,Anonymous,1549073777452.jpg,5nDJBc2GJePjx1u9pzebWA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222772 201973525,201988974,2019-02-03 19:40:10,">>201988491 >Died of nature causes (No virgin suicide) >Defeated autismo g*Rmans >Greatly expanded the size of the Soviet Union >Consolidated power from the Jews Seemed pretty based to me and far more successful than any ancrap country will ever be. >>201988777 I bet you're 15",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222810 201973525,201988987,2019-02-03 19:40:19,">>201988520 Have you noticed that no one is Scottish or British anymore? We're just white now.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222819 201973525,201988998,2019-02-03 19:40:32,">>201988821 Where in my post am I talking about economics? I'm talking about the advantages that a statist area has over an AnCap society.",,Anonymous,1547723205318.gif,2xdfm9mGTxUGQ9zbRqHUEg==,GB,United Kingdom,1549222832 201973525,201989035,2019-02-03 19:40:53,">>201988284 >who fetishize aesthetics over logic well whats wrong with that?",,Anonymous,BjF7YV2IIAAKJbG.jpg_large.jpg,7OeeJCmvceCf+Fx1xh738w==,,Fascist,1549222853 201973525,201989074,2019-02-03 19:41:21,">>201988840 >the only way to save the white race is to form violent fanatical world government and kill everyone and take their shit and force them to live in our society then implement a welfare state >we arent leftists tho because we are racially conscious",,Anonymous,1543803447267.png,XU29vKzM3Cp6DC2CQbeQxQ==,US,United States,1549222881 201973525,201989121,2019-02-03 19:41:50,"Anyone have that picture of two booths with one labeled ""FREE SHIT"" with a massive line and one with no line labeled ""Liberty""?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222910 201973525,201989140,2019-02-03 19:41:59,>>201989035,,Anonymous,70e.jpg,acK5cCx6+UYp2zoNeRQcyA==,US,United States,1549222919 201973525,201989177,2019-02-03 19:42:24,>>201988878,,Anonymous,37e.jpg,dl2F+0Jc4NsqMRXw4wPAlg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549222944 201973525,201989181,2019-02-03 19:42:27,">>201988917 Something that will eventually gravitate towards people ruling over others in some way or another.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549222947 201973525,201989182,2019-02-03 19:42:28,">>201973525 It must take a lot of wisdom and intelligence to imagine a society without theft and violence viewed as legitimate ways of supplying basic services, as almost everyone default to statism being the only way.",,Anonymous,Root-cause-tree-1540x1210_c.jpg,hn55CrjeeLHHtFOCGa1R1w==,NO,Norway,1549222948 201973525,201989238,2019-02-03 19:43:13,">>201989074 >the only way to save the white race is to form violent fanatical world government Holy fucking strawman, batman. Natsocs are essentially nationalists, do you not understand what that means?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549222993 201973525,201989242,2019-02-03 19:43:16,">>201988917 Yeah, you might wanna look into that. Because its not fucking capitalism.",,Anonymous,avatar_911f824e7937_512.jpg,Bl+mewJXk9vC0md2eDzvwQ==,US,United States,1549222996 201973525,201989345,2019-02-03 19:44:21,">>201988756 No because authoritarian states are perfect breeding grounds for corruption, even physically a large portion of your ranks would be saboteurs and swindlers, collaborators to enemy shitskins, but war is a little separate from economics and depends alot on strategy and morale so it could go both ways depending",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223061 201973525,201989347,2019-02-03 19:44:23,">>201989182 Some designerfags who can make a similar picture just /pol/ instead of health? Or does one already exist?",,Anonymous,,,NO,Norway,1549223063 201973525,201989350,2019-02-03 19:44:26,">>201979133 You can't prove I'm not Bezos",,Anonymous,,,SE,Sweden,1549223066 201973525,201989351,2019-02-03 19:44:26,">>201989074 The only way to save the white race is to form a state based around the white race with it being protected by force. You can't protect it via isolated voluntary communes that allows an outside state to swoop in and take your shit",,Anonymous,1525230523403.jpg,d6fU9lKWrDm4YLGALK0KXg==,GB,United Kingdom,1549223066 201973525,201989355,2019-02-03 19:44:29,">>201988998 comparing the likelihood of communism to a stateless society with alternative hierarchy shows economic ignorance >>201988974 go back to leftypol fuckhead >>201988878 SHEEEEEIT MANG YE NIGGA WE NATSOCS WE NEED DAT SECTION 8 HOUSING AND FREEEE SHEEEEIT NIGGGAAA >>201989238 >who was hitler ....... >>201989242 ah fuck a stirnirhomosexual, here to bog us down in the semantics. fine you stupid cunt, stateless free marketeers, better?",,Anonymous,1532714704775.png,7uZVLVAoT1CnIWp59UXlmQ==,US,United States,1549223069 201973525,201989391,2019-02-03 19:44:48,">>201988974 Keep bootlicking the political elites and long-dead dictators, faggot. You will be the first one to be thrown in the gulag.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223088 201973525,201989447,2019-02-03 19:45:24,">>201989350 Fuck I forgot my memeflag. Jokes on me.",,Anonymous,1548097551838.gif,/ntez/bT0QCe8L6RYhu8bw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223124 201973525,201989528,2019-02-03 19:46:13,">>201989351 this is one of the few valid anti libertarian views. It still does not validate the state tho >guys if we dont have a government , another government will fuck us, SO THE STATE IS GOOD >guys if we dont pay off this mafia family, the other one will extort us, MAFIA GOOD pragmatically you have a point, but logically and morally the state is still the problem",,Anonymous,05211a0f-4551-4d66-8767-e318051826dd.jpg,x+BL9lAI0Ki0gFU8CmUaBw==,US,United States,1549223173 201973525,201989608,2019-02-03 19:47:20,">>201989182 based",,Anonymous,1507883815100.jpg,TGB88nI+8KC7ApheckZ9sw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223240 201973525,201989624,2019-02-03 19:47:39,">>201989345 >because authoritarian states are perfect breeding grounds for corruption Maybe, yes. But a state based ENTIRELY around the protection of the British people is more likely to protect the British people than a small commune that wants to be left alone. >but war is a little separate from economics and depends alot on strategy and morale so it could go both ways depending No, it really couldn't. Whites are ONLY the majorities in rural areas. This is a guaranteed loss if any outsider state wants to intervene and take your shit >>201989355 Communism is stateless, in theory.",,Anonymous,1539271748033.jpg,LFDxMwMYkPbXzjG9E3HP6w==,GB,United Kingdom,1549223259 201973525,201989643,2019-02-03 19:47:47,">>201989355 >SHEEEEEIT MANG YE NIGGA WE NATSOCS WE NEED DAT SECTION 8 HOUSING AND FREEEE SHEEEEIT NIGGGAAA SHEEEEEIT MANG YE NIGGA WE ANCAPS WE NEED DAT SECTION 8 EMPLOYEE HOUSING AND FREE MC-COUPONS NIGGGAAA >who was hitler ....... A german supremacist you dumb fuck. Nationalism isn't inherently supremacist.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549223267 201973525,201989668,2019-02-03 19:48:02,">>201989345 >No because authoritarian states are perfect breeding grounds for corruption This doesnt change the fact that illusory utopias where everything is voluntary never work.",,Anonymous,,,NL,Netherlands,1549223282 201973525,201989773,2019-02-03 19:49:26,">>201989528 It's not about ""another government"" anon. It's about another race, another ethnicity, another people. I'd rather live under a tyrannical state that stops the British people from being bred out of existence than an anarchist ""commune"" that does nothing to protect my people",,Anonymous,1540880250297.jpg,zISOcK8+H2meVmIJVKUlAA==,GB,United Kingdom,1549223366 201973525,201989799,2019-02-03 19:49:39,">>201983468 Survival of the fittest duh. Whites are smarter and stronger. We will always be superior. It'll end in an ethnostate. I don't even want an ethnostate but it's inevitable.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223379 201973525,201989869,2019-02-03 19:50:31,">>201989624 >a state will do the job its told to sweet child, also communes/covenants don't have to be small and can be sovereign but work together for the benefit all neighbors",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223431 201973525,201989893,2019-02-03 19:50:49,">>201989624 >But a state based ENTIRELY around the protection of the British people is more likely to protect the British people That's not how state's work. How can you claim that an entity that beats you, cages you or kills you if you don't give your belongings to it is the only one entity that is able to protect you?",,Anonymous,government-malum-in-se.png,fsshsMGhQCkCJ30Tc3709Q==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223449 201973525,201989895,2019-02-03 19:50:49,">>201976655 >>Be Stormfaggot >>come to AnCap land because Stormfagland looks like Venezuela >>tries to invade some AnCap neighborhood and take all their shit by force >>NAP was violated, AnCaps come out of the bushes like Vietcong, armed to the teeth with heavy weaponry >>Stormfaggot gets lynched and drug through Stormfagland tied to the back of a McTank by his neck >>the other Stormfag cucks can watch and shout ""THEY WON'T DO THIS TO ME!"" >>but they're alone >>we steamroll and take their shit, impregnating their methhead whores for teh lulz >>AnCap utopia expanded >>There are no group rights above those of the individuals who comprise it ftfy",,Anonymous,1498517387155.png,js6ltHNvAYlpcqxaxlR33A==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223449 201973525,201990039,2019-02-03 19:52:33,">>201989528 >pragmatically you have a point, but logically and morally the state is still the problem People aren't these hyper-rational autists who try and go about everything like Vulcans from Star Trek. Not many people are Ancaps, nor will many people ever be Ancaps. Nobody gives a fuck about your principles or what you see as your logical reasoning, so you better start forming your own mafia family.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549223553 201973525,201990147,2019-02-03 19:53:54,">>201989608 >>201989447 >>201989391 >>201989182 >>201988730 >>201988069 >>201987837 >>201987598 >>201987543 I fully expect yall to make regular threads on this board until we make it libertarian again.",,Anonymous,20518018a7069290ca7b3a9b228071bf1965041518329c0f0268307ced951080 (1).png,ojP5MF40cA4Fg7j+hkzSHg==,US,United States,1549223634 201973525,201990160,2019-02-03 19:54:04,">>201989799 >Whites are smarter and stronger Again, it does nothing when non-whites control the industrial centres. >>201989869 >a state will do the job its told to Worked for the Nazis, and the Americans up until 1965. And the Brits up until WW2. >also communes/covenants don't have to be small and can be sovereign but work together for the benefit all neighbors Not in a case of ""I only want white people in my covenant"" like in Britain. If I wanted an ethnostate it would be small rural ones. >>201989893 >That's not how state's work. See first reply.",,Anonymous,1548933179856.png,uM7g/HML6M/LyaTMnRRZSg==,GB,United Kingdom,1549223644 201973525,201990259,2019-02-03 19:55:20,">>201990160 *second reply.",,Anonymous,1518643781729.gif,bvKo7KTehp6KFUd8IOHVpA==,GB,United Kingdom,1549223720 201973525,201990265,2019-02-03 19:55:22,"I'm Here. Fuck Hitler Fuck Lenin Heil to intelligence and spirit of individual. Let's conquer the space!",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223722 201973525,201990325,2019-02-03 19:56:13,">>201990147 I stopped coming here for a while, since the board was taken over by ethnocucks and neonazi",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223773 201973525,201990388,2019-02-03 19:56:54,">>201990265 >Heil to intelligence and spirit of individual",,Anonymous,mlady.jpg,w0SHO5yO1glgTqVtFIH/EA==,CA,Canada,1549223814 201973525,201990404,2019-02-03 19:57:01,">>201990147 I am finally going to do it now, after being more than done reading up now. Took a while longer than I first thought. Make a discord server to organize this?",,Anonymous,,,NO,Norway,1549223821 201973525,201990430,2019-02-03 19:57:17,">>201983568 You had me at riding a horse on the highway.",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549223837 201973525,201990440,2019-02-03 19:57:30,">>201990147 >I fully expect yall to make regular threads on this board until we make it libertarian again. Don't worry. It has always been libertarian. Stormfaggots are aids and cancer.",,Anonymous,Nazis_Are_JIDF_Shills.png,gAJ9OIZ/IckgolGcMTyFHg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223850 201973525,201990483,2019-02-03 19:58:03,">>201990039 I agree >>201990147 >>201990265 based",,Anonymous,1525847646932.jpg,28EYLHN3YFlLJZ3phHKqMg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549223883 201973525,201990522,2019-02-03 19:58:34,">>201990325 >ethnocucks Yes anon, I'm sure you can convince those super duper cool 87 IQ black people to become Libertarians! I mean, look at this picture of Sowell!!",,Anonymous,1547071299855.png,92jRyBR52CnGyU/lexn3Pw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549223914 201973525,201990641,2019-02-03 19:59:54,">>201990325 Same, it got worse after 2016. Can actually see decent threads these days though.",,Anonymous,devolution_of_economics.jpg,PLSIpaWgr3PW2XXwiIAGtQ==,NO,Norway,1549223994 201973525,201990652,2019-02-03 20:00:06,>>201990388,,Anonymous,1521594416008.gif,z1SKhxScbfhICKJSVl5RPg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224006 201973525,201990658,2019-02-03 20:00:07,">>201989624 >in theory Its to make a huge state that will make things so good it wont be needed anymore, thats very different than slowly de-escalating the size of the state >>201989643 wut? Ancaps and libertarians dont believe in welfare, stop projecting faggot >>201989773 thats a false choice that got implanted in your mind from living in a hyper statist society >>201990039 o boi. Most people are on a practical level either moderate welfare socialists or moderate libertarian live and let live types. half the country is the latter. I agree ancap is a high goal but minarchy is the historical american norm and most people on the right here say they want to return to the founding principles. your fascism on the other hand IS a hyper minority and will never gain traction. >>201990325 same , am back tho >>201990404 on it >>201990440 big based discord: qfNbGP",,Anonymous,=ehe.jpg,B/fj6wma5Fwrl9YzbfJvoQ==,US,United States,1549224007 201973525,201990673,2019-02-03 20:00:20,">>201979133 Would amazon exist without tax breaks and the ability to write off losses from their expenses? Genuine question. If I had time Id be interested to figure out specifically how tax laws and exceptions shape these companies and if theyd have been as large or successful in a system without the fed. Also, dont forget that patent protection is specifically a function of government. Its the government who says only one person is allowed to have an idea and act on it; does that not run completely contrary to natural law? When people picture ancap they picture a world that removes .gov regulations from businesses but keeps .gov protections for them. That creates a false picture. This also plays in to environmental arguments. Without .gov, companies would not be able to just build pipelines and railroads as easily as they have (no grants, no cheap land, no eminent domain). The interstate system would look much different if it existed at all in its current form. Our growth would not have been this exponential, and common people would have much greater access to its profits in that they would have to be fairly compensated for use of land, and they would be able to provide duplicate products (think generic meds without the wait), all without government either stealing land or enforcing patent law.",,Anonymous,1539574260516.gif,x3PebD+RaYzphRMig+5Cjw==,US,United States,1549224020 201973525,201990796,2019-02-03 20:01:55,">>201989608 Even deer can build roads. Yet governments seem to struggle with it.",,Anonymous,1548553937719.jpg,Dm2mpfe4WUx3IMqIPWw4Ag==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224115 201973525,201990866,2019-02-03 20:02:55,">>201990483 It amazes me that Ancaps view a military dictator as some kind of free market ancap when all he did was reverse the catastrophic effects his ultra socialist predecessor. >wut? Ancaps and libertarians dont believe in welfare, stop projecting faggot Your employee Tyrone needs a place to live if he's going to work for your restaurant chain you stupid nigger.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549224175 201973525,201990886,2019-02-03 20:03:05,"DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD qfNbGP DISCORD >>DISCORD",,Anonymous,1393229484455.jpg,Ym5Bd2aoXPtBI6BsME+uRg==,US,United States,1549224185 201973525,201990895,2019-02-03 20:03:07,">>201990796 Lets just pretend that continent crossing interstate highway system doesn't exist.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549224187 201973525,201990921,2019-02-03 20:03:25,">>201990866 also >>201990658",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549224205 201973525,201990951,2019-02-03 20:03:46,">>201990658 >Its to make a huge state that will make things so good it wont be needed anymore The ""it won't be needed"" bit and the slow withering away of the state is the important bit that makes it stateless, dummy. It doesn't matter if the means of achieving it is different from AnCapism. >thats a false choice that got implanted in your mind from living in a hyper statist society Please explain how it is a false choice. From my perspective an anarchist society cannot truly protect my people the way a state can",,Anonymous,1544034842483.jpg,Xrhj05TuBoLYkpu+XKa1Aw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549224226 201973525,201991004,2019-02-03 20:04:33,">>201990658 >discord: qfNbGP >glad that I have no idea what this means Although you clearly do. Please enlighten me.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224273 201973525,201991057,2019-02-03 20:05:15,">>201990866 >It amazes me that Ancaps view a military dictator as some kind of free market ancap when all he did was reverse the catastrophic effects his ultra socialist predecessor. see >>201990652",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224315 201973525,201991066,2019-02-03 20:05:24,>>201990796,,Anonymous,statists-and-roads.jpg,iRTPC5/t8ahXlo0B5AcC0Q==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224324 201973525,201991125,2019-02-03 20:06:15,">individualism Meanwhile the nogs, Jews and degenerates collectivize to destroy you. Fail more.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549224375 201973525,201991169,2019-02-03 20:06:41,">>201991057 Not an argument",,Anonymous,1528440853850.png,FGWmLVdT/Z+X+A1t7oprVQ==,CA,Canada,1549224401 201973525,201991271,2019-02-03 20:07:50,">>201990673 Amazon wouldn't be paying any taxes anymore to begin with. What does an entity like Amazon need a patent for? Their own Amazon merchandise? You can only provide duplicate products for so long until the market is cornered. Businesses will get tired of competing and start merging or working together. Making money is the end goal in capitalism -- not the spirit of competition, the NAP, or any abstract principle.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549224470 201973525,201991273,2019-02-03 20:07:52,">>201990921 see unlike you huge welfare faggots , hard work and a free market doesnt attract tyrones >>201990951 you said tyrannical state. a small localized minarchy is completely bearable, but wanting le epic totalitarian shit is gay as fuck and influenced by the fact that your country fetishizes a crap healthcare system and other gubmint provided cancer >>201991004 you enter that into the discord join a server bar >>201991125 no one is saying individuals cant come together to stop threats, but blind allegiance to a state is retarded as fuck >>201991169 he left the markets alone, tho I agree he was not an ancap ofc",,Anonymous,1525615935950.jpg,Zkw2i8pSamCbY5pvp3R2YA==,US,United States,1549224472 201973525,201991309,2019-02-03 20:08:19,">>201991125 >Meanwhile the nogs, Jews and degenerates collectivize to destroy you. >Fail more.",,Anonymous,1500219760717.jpg,EqHcWxKq9LKpN9eu0RR/SQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224499 201973525,201991416,2019-02-03 20:09:31,"Private property is a collectivist effort. Anything that you do not secure by way of your own personal force of violence is not really private and its not really yours. Your rugged individual cowboy bullshit is a spook. The moment your hired guns decides that you're faggot, your shit's over. So without the collective effort of other people you don't have shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549224571 201973525,201991441,2019-02-03 20:09:46,">>201991169 >Not an argument You're right. You've erected a strawman and you're trying to knock it down and pretend like you've contributed something useful. Gb2beastiality",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224586 201973525,201991469,2019-02-03 20:10:09,">>201991273 >no one is saying individuals cant come together to stop threats That's called collectivism you dumbfuck.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549224609 201973525,201991480,2019-02-03 20:10:17,">>201990265 > fuck grammar too",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549224617 201973525,201991521,2019-02-03 20:10:42,">>201977486 Yes, growing food isn’t rocket science you stupid fucking nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549224642 201973525,201991612,2019-02-03 20:11:42,">>201978485 T. Secound generation Russian rape baby",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549224702 201973525,201991695,2019-02-03 20:12:42,">>201991273 >you said tyrannical state. a small localized minarchy is completely bearable ...I know? But that isn't what we're discussing. I said I'd rather live in a totalitarian state than an anarchist commune in the scenario that the state is protecting white people. Are you braindead?",,Anonymous,1530320533927.png,j/yHnbFuE8JfFqPbb+6hZw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549224762 201973525,201991705,2019-02-03 20:12:47,">>201991416 >Private property is a collectivist effort. Anything that you do not secure by way of your own personal force of violence is not really private and its not really yours. Your rugged individual cowboy bullshit is a spook. The moment your hired guns decides that you're faggot, your shit's over. So without the collective effort of other people you don't have shit. Nice strawman. Ancaps never say don't collectivize, the argument is entirely different. If you did your homework, you would know that. Instead you listen to your stormfaggot echo chamber and get pwn'ed every time you spout stupid shit like this.",,Anonymous,pol_cuck.jpg,qfH7tXHrfV28DY7RhXpAgA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224767 201973525,201991787,2019-02-03 20:13:46,">>201990440 Wait dude. Are you saying there are no shills or JIDF active on /pol/? The state of Israel has literally an army division for shilling and shareblue is a real thing. It's one thing to be against stormfags and another thing to ignore jewish influence.",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549224826 201973525,201991978,2019-02-03 20:15:50,">>201979487 >ancaps lost me with their whole ""open border"" shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-Fl8d3olp0 Fuck you commie",,Anonymous,,,AR,Argentina,1549224950 201973525,201991998,2019-02-03 20:16:01,">>201991705 No dude, cooperation with another person is communism. Don't get mad at me, your own batshit cult leader wannabe talking heads made it this way.",,Anonymous,1465776568340.jpg,AmKQ4wbRwX0zTFix8NVBOg==,US,United States,1549224961 201973525,201992011,2019-02-03 20:16:13,">>201991787 >Are you saying there are no shills or JIDF active on /pol/? No. JIDF has been around since forever. Stormfags = JIDF. Now JIDF tries to larp as us these days, but they won't succeed. Our ideology is correct, so nothing can divide us. The only thing they can do is waste time larping and spamming, which always fail in the end since nothing has changed.",,Anonymous,Stormfags_are_JIDF_shills.png,rQL3lTSiU9ak9zI7etOZBQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549224973 201973525,201992050,2019-02-03 20:16:38,">>201991469 by this standard corporations are collectivist , churches , families , you and a friend getting pizza.......everyone who isnt a basement neetsoc is a collectivist I guess >>201991695 then if you must advocate statism , stop advocating tyranny >>201991705 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH natsocs are retards, pic related",,Anonymous,unknown (24).png,FqpFhRsaO7lHfU055MzmHg==,US,United States,1549224998 201973525,201992117,2019-02-03 20:17:11,">>201991998 >No dude, cooperation with another person is communism. Don't get mad at me, your own batshit cult leader wannabe talking heads made it this way. >Never have been a Molymeme fan myself Cooperating with other people is voluntary interaction. That is libertarianism, newfriend.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225031 201973525,201992149,2019-02-03 20:17:30,">>201991441 >Pointing out facts is a strawman I knew you were stupid by virtue of being an ancap and yet i'm still surprised at how retarded you people are.",,Anonymous,1521668367286.jpg,uGqWNzLoYhb9Id2uqF7xLw==,CA,Canada,1549225050 201973525,201992273,2019-02-03 20:18:53,">>201992050 >then if you must advocate statism , stop advocating tyranny What if Tyranny is the only way to protect my ethnic group, though?",,Anonymous,1544279430683.gif,dfxr4fBVvgyB0mYsXJdAfQ==,GB,United Kingdom,1549225133 201973525,201992274,2019-02-03 20:18:55,">>201992149 >I knew you were stupid by virtue of being an ancap and yet i'm still surprised at how retarded you people are.",,Anonymous,coolstorybro.jpg,M/y1HrDkeybYZX8vhf6hVg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225135 201973525,201992383,2019-02-03 20:19:59,">>201992117 Nah, you have to be a single atom in a vacuum dude. Actually you'd need to deconstruct that atom as well because the nucleus is held together in a collectivist union by the strong force. Basically for you to not be a hypocrite you'd have to fall into a black hole so that you would no longer be comprised of interdependent systems like organs, cells, molecules and atoms.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549225199 201973525,201992500,2019-02-03 20:21:15,"new bread >>201992443 >>201992443 >>201992443",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225275 201973525,201992554,2019-02-03 20:21:48,">>201977144 >he hasn't heard of hermits",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549225308 201973525,201992710,2019-02-03 20:23:26,">>201992383 >Nah, you have to be a single atom in a vacuum dude. Actually you'd need to deconstruct that atom as well because the nucleus is held together in a collectivist union by the strong force. Basically for you to not be a hypocrite you'd have to fall into a black hole so that you would no longer be comprised of interdependent systems like organs, cells, molecules and atoms. I understand that is what you would want us to be, but we're not buying your stale, retarded argument. If you want to believe that stupid shit, nobody will stop you, but nobody is going to waste their time trying to convince you of anything. There are more important things to do.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225406 201973525,201992745,2019-02-03 20:23:48,">>201992274 >assuming I'm a commie Lmao",,Anonymous,1504925610250.jpg,6siAwzleLuA5L0pOJRIJjg==,CA,Canada,1549225428 201973525,201992880,2019-02-03 20:25:22,">>201992745 >Lmao",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225522 201973525,201992964,2019-02-03 20:26:10,"Ancaps LARP and live in abstraction fantasy land as much as they claim Natsocs, Commies, and everyone else does. Another group of neutered faggots talking shit on the internet about how everyone else is low IQ, and will continue to do nothing as they get slowly chipped away at by everyone else attaining power. If the Nazis, Commies, or whoever else actually took power they would continue to do nothing but talk shit about muh principles and freedumz.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549225570 201973525,201993007,2019-02-03 20:26:36,">>201992745 >>assuming I'm a commie >Lmao Oh you're definitely a stormfaggot, with an emphasis on the ""faggot"".",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225596 201973525,201993019,2019-02-03 20:26:41,">>201992273 It verifiably isnt",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549225601 201973525,201993208,2019-02-03 20:28:45,">>201993019 How do I remove legal citizens of my country and stop inter-racial marriage without it being tyrannical",,Anonymous,1538565011250.jpg,RZfCEzSGom2/PEyx4Y7wfg==,GB,United Kingdom,1549225725 201973525,201993253,2019-02-03 20:29:15,">>201992964 >Ancaps LARP and live in abstraction fantasy land This is a shit attempt to undermine a priori underpinnings of economic laws with retarded empiricism, forgetting that math is a priori abstract but is perfectly applicable to the real world and used in science in exactly the same way praxeology is used in economics (by actual economists, not your Keynesian faggots). Keep in mind the empirical element, known as thymology. But you faggots don't read, so you don't know that side.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225755 201973525,201993581,2019-02-03 20:32:52,Individualism has opened western civilization to the most destructive and degenerate subversion and you faggots want to go full ancap... get your heads out of your asses,,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549225972 201973525,201993689,2019-02-03 20:33:58,">>201983468 Isn't the problem that your government is shipping them in and giving them benefits? Freedom of association with private charities that only give to whites.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226038 201973525,201993731,2019-02-03 20:34:25,">>201993208 interracial shit is unnatural, the vast majority will stop if its not culturally promoted removing legal citizens ? how legal are they really, senpai.....",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226065 201973525,201994048,2019-02-03 20:37:42,">>201993253 >ancaps >ever applying anything to the real world ""Guys, it's perfectly applicable, I just need to convince everyone to think like me.""",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226262 201973525,201994077,2019-02-03 20:38:04,">>201993689 Read the thread >>201993731 >not culturally promoted So how do you turn around the culture without it being tyrannical? You can't ban books, or TV shows or adverts. >how legal are they really, senpai Pretty fucking legal, you dense retard? We don't have an illegal immigrant problem. All the immigrants here were given citizenship by the government. Would kicking them out, forcibly using violence against legal citizens not be tyrannical?",,Anonymous,1540249656990.jpg,McSwmgIMg+Dl+KlZs/gTJg==,GB,United Kingdom,1549226284 201973525,201994232,2019-02-03 20:39:50,">>201994077 papers maketh not a citizen , fellow anon also that first one is insanely easy, you just dont subsidize non whites anymore. Nobody wants to date people who are unemployed and homeless",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226390 201973525,201994367,2019-02-03 20:41:12,">>201973525 >tfw the only way for your individualist ideology to work is if everyone adheres to it as a collective",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549226472 201992443,201992443,2019-02-03 20:20:32,"Ancaps, Libertarians and Minarchists get in here GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",/AC/ AnCap General - Make /pol/ great again edition,Anonymous,ancapol2.png,CGDIggvJVu97vWytatotzQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225232 201992443,201992696,2019-02-03 20:23:21,,,Anonymous,1480978191365.png,t1YJudCYndhTb7Ree5BvjQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225401 201992443,201992704,2019-02-03 20:23:23,">>201992443 People figured out this shit is fake and gay when Ron Paul failed. And especially when private corporations crushed free speech instead of the government. Fuck off, you lost.",,Anonymous,404675_427355990660382_681527820_n.jpg,YIZIn/cmYrmg4WNALAPDug==,US,United States,1549225403 201992443,201992709,2019-02-03 20:23:26,">>201992443 Stop cucking to corporations that want to end the white race you faggots NatSoc is the only way forward 1488",,Anonymous,natsoc.jpg,Oun2nck5ogdV1HuPncq6/g==,CR,Costa Rica,1549225406 201992443,201992820,2019-02-03 20:24:42,">>201992709 >Stop cucking to corporations that want to end the white race you faggots NatSoc is the only way forward 1488 >NatSoc cucks to corporations >AnCap abolishes them",,Anonymous,coolstorybro.jpg,M/y1HrDkeybYZX8vhf6hVg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225482 201992443,201992886,2019-02-03 20:25:24,">>201992704 Exactly don't you know (((corporations))) are a private place and they can do whatever they want *gets banned by the same corporations* we just need to keep supporting them goyim don't you get it we can't have anudda shoa",,Anonymous,1488.jpg,EKfMkNBfJ6cXr/YU3eZAsQ==,CR,Costa Rica,1549225524 201992443,201992941,2019-02-03 20:25:56,">>201992820 how are you abolishing corporations you want a voluntary society you sperg, what happens when people are involuntary.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549225556 201992443,201993142,2019-02-03 20:28:06,"Based Ron Paul >Ron Paul - Trump's Venezuela Fiasco ""convicted criminal Elliott Abrams should be disqualified from holding public office"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tYEKsa8lA >Ron Paul - Bolton: ""We're Taking Venezuela's Oil""...""Pompeo, Bolton and Abrams are the Pirates of the Caribbean"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTE0SQA2jU8 >Ron Paul interview - ""Defying American Values"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCESJ5JcJXc",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549225686 201992443,201993158,2019-02-03 20:28:14,Reminder that Ancap is a failed meme ideology for delusional autists.,,Anonymous,average libertarian.png,Fa5jLEnqueEcM/vXxi7vLA==,,Pirate,1549225694 201992443,201993199,2019-02-03 20:28:38,">>201992820 >State controls corporations and limits them to benefit the white race >cucking choose one faggot if you continue being an ancap all you support is retard monarchy and philosophy written by the same jews that want to end your society today.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549225718 201992443,201993203,2019-02-03 20:28:41,">>201992704 >elites stopping a candidate discredits him It only validates him further dipshit",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225721 201992443,201993440,2019-02-03 20:31:20,">>201993199 >choose one faggot if you continue being an ancap all you support is retard monarchy and philosophy written by the same jews that want to end your society today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Menger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugen_B%C3%B6hm_von_Bawerk kys",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225880 201992443,201993485,2019-02-03 20:31:45,">>201993158 >durr neckbeard xD back to r*ddit",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225905 201992443,201993495,2019-02-03 20:31:52,"Have you guys ever been on a Ancap discord? It always ends with furry porn, trannies and other mentally ill retards that just want to do drugs while their society collapses.",,Anonymous,weneeddildosanddrugsgoy.jpg,RE1YOSqRoaVXXq9hg2LUuA==,,Nazi,1549225912 201992443,201993580,2019-02-03 20:32:53,">>201992941 >how are you abolishing corporations you want a voluntary society you sperg, what happens when people are involuntary. Okay, retard. It's clear that you don't know what a corporation is. gtfo",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549225973 201992443,201993646,2019-02-03 20:33:30,">>201992704 >And especially when private corporations crushed free speech instead of the government. Fuck off, you lost. >>201992886 see >>201993580",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226010 201992443,201993647,2019-02-03 20:33:30,">>201993495 Unsurprising. Hyper-Individualism inevitably leads to hyper-degeneracy.",,Anonymous,,,,Pirate,1549226010 201992443,201993664,2019-02-03 20:33:44,">>201993580 A corporation is simply businesses joining together, is that involuntary you mentally ill retard??",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226024 201992443,201993776,2019-02-03 20:34:54,">>201993647 These people have never read Ayn Rand, she advocates for cheating on her husband, she wants women to do shit just because it feels good while their corporations are trying to destroy the white race.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226094 201992443,201993835,2019-02-03 20:35:31,">>201993485 Libertarianism is inherently a reddit tier ideology.",,Anonymous,libercuckians.jpg,J27e9ph8ugBxpTBeu3Z64g==,,Pirate,1549226131 201992443,201993847,2019-02-03 20:35:36,">>201993664 >A corporation is simply businesses joining together, is that involuntary you mentally ill retard?? Thank you for proving my point, stormfaggot. gb2stormfront",,Anonymous,1500219760717.jpg,EqHcWxKq9LKpN9eu0RR/SQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226136 201992443,201993901,2019-02-03 20:36:16,">>201993646 You didn't argue a single point you degenerate faggot circumcised kike.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226176 201992443,201993912,2019-02-03 20:36:21,"Ancrcho-capitalism is probably the least relevant ideology. At least the rainbow flag faggot coalition knows how to attain power. Ancaps are just as elitist as the commies in their mentality, and call everyone else low IQ like the Natsocs. Different groups are going to keep vying for sociopolitical power, and whoever wins the Ancap will continue to do nothing but stick his nose in the air and talk about muh principles and freedumz. Nobody gives a fuck about the NAP, and you're always going to have to pay taxes.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226181 201992443,201993992,2019-02-03 20:37:12,">>201993835 >Libertarianism is inherently a reddit tier ideology.",,Anonymous,14690982_313572255687557_2559132023533178389_n.jpg,UO26Z9sc+nqJmpYK8IMydw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226232 201992443,201994103,2019-02-03 20:38:20,I am glad to see /pol/ have a two minutes' hate inside this leftist thread. Rock on.,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226300 201992443,201994124,2019-02-03 20:38:37,">>201993847 oh yeah goyim",,Anonymous,(((controlledop))).jpg,0JZbltORKzOmptua+KVSRA==,,Nazi,1549226317 201992443,201994151,2019-02-03 20:38:58,">>201993835 >pic kek",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226338 201992443,201994159,2019-02-03 20:39:03,">>201993901 >You didn't argue a single point you degenerate faggot circumcised kike. The fact that you still don't see it is hilarious to me. You're too fucking dense for words. KYS",,Anonymous,1522355082333.jpg,dTtgb4UhCADbYZNfVokKLw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226343 201992443,201994319,2019-02-03 20:40:39,">>201994124 >oh yeah goyim see >>201993440 Mises isn't the founder of AUSTRIAN economics, you fucking retard.",,Anonymous,ancapman.jpg,z3YwBRESeeyOKCeDIERHBA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226439 201992443,201994487,2019-02-03 20:42:40,">>201994159 This is why no one takes you spergs seriously you cannot argue any points made, you cannot define anarchy without it resulting into monarchy and this is why a lolbert society has never formed and will never",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226560 201992443,201994531,2019-02-03 20:43:12,">>201993992 >our collective group of free individuals is going to change the world At least An-Coms were able to try their retarded ideology in Spain. Ancaps are so retarded that their ideas can't even go beyond low IQ theorizing.",,Anonymous,Sheeple.jpg,QQk9m1AguyS3VihabqFgTQ==,,Pirate,1549226592 201992443,201994554,2019-02-03 20:43:26,">>201994319 It doesn't matter who formed your retard school of thought it was taken over by jews and will result in the same shitty society we have today run by corporations.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226606 201992443,201994632,2019-02-03 20:44:13,">>201994487 >a lolbert society has never formed",,Anonymous,7da40d1a3cc6d66aa71fe1264.gif,35zbIuQ+HqY4tS+wEDSi7A==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226653 201992443,201994651,2019-02-03 20:44:22,Who's a libertarian monarchist here ?,,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226662 201992443,201994791,2019-02-03 20:45:43,">>201994632 Name one and name one that's lasted & hasn't become a corporate shithole that tries to destroy culture and your race?",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226743 201992443,201994808,2019-02-03 20:45:58,">>201994531 >my little pony kek that would be stormfags",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226758 201992443,201994887,2019-02-03 20:46:54,">>201994651 I'm a Libertarian but with a Dictatorship like gouvernment. Stop the meme flag.",,Anonymous,ancap pepe.jpg,2yLt5u9CVGRz4/x6mw/7ww==,FR,France,1549226814 201992443,201994926,2019-02-03 20:47:18,">>201994791 None.",,Anonymous,,,FR,France,1549226838 201992443,201994956,2019-02-03 20:47:37,">>201994791 inb4 1776 america lol >>201994808 Maybe but it's almost certainly Ancaps",,Anonymous,Libertarian.jpg,CHI0RTxoGOCD8FYAgJoHoA==,,Pirate,1549226857 201992443,201994959,2019-02-03 20:47:39,">>201994791 >name one and name one that's lasted nice goalpost moving snake",,Anonymous,1499481453231.png,jI83+yqzJcnkG0OTM60ihg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226859 201992443,201994971,2019-02-03 20:47:47,">>201994651 >>201994487 Exactly my point you spergs cannot define anarchy without becoming monarchists and what happened to monarchy? Liberalism has taken over and now we live in a shithole governed by jewish corporations and you simply want to reset it... You want to eat a shit sandwich instead of being shot but the next day you will still be shot I'd rather die on my feet and not eat a shit sandwich and try and change the system from being controlled by (((them)))",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226867 201992443,201994977,2019-02-03 20:47:51,">>201994487 >This is why no one takes you spergs seriously you cannot argue any points made, you cannot define anarchy without it resulting into monarchy and this is why a lolbert society has never formed and will never >Stormfags riding Ancap coattails >entryist faggotry You're still too dense to see the argument, so you resort to shitty debate tactics as always. Why am I not surprised?",,Anonymous,15202753_234329930320594_1752702427384331391_n.jpg,y0aFTA/QfR9EFfsRqgtEyA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549226871 201992443,201995071,2019-02-03 20:48:42,">>201994808 Even the stormfags are better at taking action and convincing people of their own beliefs, like race and the JQ. Do Ancaps ever leave the mental masturbation stage?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549226922 201992443,201995097,2019-02-03 20:49:04,">>201994959 Oh so your ideas haven't lasted, that means it failed >america 1776 >AOC failed >state formed >now largest state in entire world.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226944 201992443,201995159,2019-02-03 20:49:41,">>201994977 Your arguments are kys, and changing your definitions to try and be anarchist faggots why would anyone take you serious lol.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549226981 201992443,201995297,2019-02-03 20:51:10,">>201994956 That's their only argument, every other society has become a state led one and then they have their arguments tried in places like Singapore and 1000 a people emigrate a month that sounds like a failure to me.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549227070 201992443,201995302,2019-02-03 20:51:15,">>201995097 >nazi flag",,Anonymous,1508595503172.png,uqFDmWZhuUF/vEujr0EP6w==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227075 201992443,201995522,2019-02-03 20:53:29,">>201995302 >Ancap meme flag",,Anonymous,byebye(((ancaps))).jpg,5ce3+eWP1qyBAjJVoi2yDQ==,,Nazi,1549227209 201992443,201995572,2019-02-03 20:54:06,">>201994926 it's almost like their ideas are stupid",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549227246 201992443,201995637,2019-02-03 20:54:43,">>201994554 >It doesn't matter who formed your retard school of thought it was taken over by jews and will result in the same shitty society we have today run by corporations. >the same shitty society we have today run by corporations o rly? Let's see whose ideology is closer to what we have today...",,Anonymous,1445626552854.jpg,NaiR5P+aDjI9RaqeckIfAg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227283 201992443,201995699,2019-02-03 20:55:24,">>201995522 >that pic autism",,Anonymous,1521592144339.png,pzsy1ijOKSqFvXhykJBlSw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227324 201992443,201995740,2019-02-03 20:55:50,>>201995522,,Anonymous,1523150006596.jpg,8W1zhm8fXBvQ/7TY1WxS0Q==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227350 201992443,201995940,2019-02-03 20:57:45,,,Anonymous,1485111496790.jpg,4gSHI74BLM9nt7TUNTZRmg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227465 201992443,201995999,2019-02-03 20:58:19,">>201995699 Summary of ancap ""arguments"" >Kys >that pic is autism >stormfags >a lolbert society has formed (blank society) >mises isn't jewish and didn't effect austrian economics >ancaps abolish corporations even though we want a voluntary society >you don't know what your talking about okay buddy keep going your only helping my side get new members",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549227499 201992443,201996000,2019-02-03 20:58:21,,,Anonymous,1487287282486.jpg,ZcMrXDSZZlJ/oWjQ0EyAsQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227501 201992443,201996101,2019-02-03 20:59:38,">>201995999 >Gives no argument >Doesn't get one back",,Anonymous,1537339200045.png,mXGqFaA1l/Jrn9irf5RE+A==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227578 201992443,201996106,2019-02-03 20:59:43,">>201995740 >Removing all jewish people >banning usury >universal healthcare for the volk >no interest loans wow this sounds a lot like what (((they))) support right? oh yeah it doesn't shut the fuck up and read Siege if you wanna argue some natsocs",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549227583 201992443,201996113,2019-02-03 20:59:47,">>201992443 I like ""Intellectuals and Society"" by Thomas Sowell.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549227587 201992443,201996195,2019-02-03 21:00:36,">>201995999 >okay buddy keep going your only helping my side get new members >keep intentionally misrepresenting the arguments unless entirely retarded and misrepresenting them mistakenly If they have the IQ you do, then we don't want them anyway.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227636 201992443,201996268,2019-02-03 21:01:18,">>201996106 >wow this sounds a lot like what (((they))) support right? oh yeah it doesn't shut the fuck up and read Siege if you wanna argue some natsocs >>201996106 see >>201995637",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227678 201992443,201996292,2019-02-03 21:01:31,">>201996101 I've made quite a few arguments you can simply scroll up, I still have no reply on a libertarian society forming and not resulting into a state with corporations controlling it, I still have had no argument that you cannot define anarchy without it resulting into a monarchy, still haven't had an argument that austrian economics is controlled and is influenced by jews.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549227691 201992443,201996316,2019-02-03 21:01:51,">>201996113 cool read Hoppe too >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (1993; 2006 2nd edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economics%20and%20Ethics%20of%20Private%20Property%20Studies%20in%20Political%20Economy%20and%20Philosophy_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline (2015) https://mises.org/system/tdf/A%20Short%20History%20of%20Man%20%E2%80%94%20Progress%20and%20Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document >Democracy—The God That Failed (2001) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (1988; 2010 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document >From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy (2014) https://mises.org/system/tdf/From%20Aristocracy%20to%20Monarchy%20to%20Democracy_Hoppe_Text%202014.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Myth of National Defense: Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production (2003) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Myth%20of%20National%20Defense%2C%20The%20Essays%20on%20the%20Theory%20and%20History%20of%20Security%20Production_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Private Production of Defense (1998; 2006 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Private%20Production%20of%20Defense_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Economic Science and the Austrian Method (1995) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economic%20Science%20and%20the%20Austrian%20Method_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >What Must Be Done (2009) https://mises.org/system/tdf/What%20Must%20Be%20Done_7.pdf?file=1&type=document",,Anonymous,1521834400962.jpg,KYyD8+FxnWD8SaeoDFDiMQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227711 201992443,201996361,2019-02-03 21:02:18,">>201996195 So above 130, sweet we're moving to a great society governed by whites and not ancaps who support degenerates shoving dildos up their ass",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549227738 201992443,201996395,2019-02-03 21:02:42,">>201996292 >I've made quite a few arguments you can simply scroll up This is that canadian dog fucker from the last thread.",,Anonymous,1521594416008.gif,z1SKhxScbfhICKJSVl5RPg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227762 201992443,201996504,2019-02-03 21:03:59,">>201996292 All civilizations collapse >>201996361 >not ancaps who support degenerates shoving dildos up their ass good strawman faggot",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227839 201992443,201996523,2019-02-03 21:04:09,">>201996395 No leafboy here buddy, and still not a single argument wow you lads sure are impressive.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549227849 201992443,201996543,2019-02-03 21:04:17,>>201996195,,Anonymous,2srhob.jpg,VYhl2non4+I3Nicmq0Ov/A==,US,United States,1549227857 201992443,201996552,2019-02-03 21:04:22,">>201992443 Finally a good thread !",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549227862 201992443,201996562,2019-02-03 21:04:27,">>201996361 >So above 130, sweet we're moving to a great society governed by whites and not ancaps who support degenerates shoving dildos up their ass Sorry, sweetie, IQ doesn't refer to the number of dicks you've had up your asses.",,Anonymous,1499856436158.gif,/JvW17bji4dAY9VdSwIcdg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227867 201992443,201996748,2019-02-03 21:06:17,">>201996523 >No leafboy here buddy, and still not a single argument wow you lads sure are impressive. cool proxy, bro. Arguing with retards such as yourself is a waste of time. The argument was over ages ago. You're just that far behind.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549227977 201992443,201996762,2019-02-03 21:06:26,">>201996504 >good strawman faggot Do you allow faggots in your voluntary society, if so how do you disallow them without violating your principles. Faggot can be exchanged with drug dealers, etc >All civilizations collapse What a fantastic argument of why we need another political ideology that will lead to the exact situation we are in now wow I want corporations to fuck me with a rod now.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549227986 201992443,201996858,2019-02-03 21:07:26,">>201996562 Well i've been on ancap discords i've seen how many trannies, furry porn posters, mentally ill, and drug supporters are on their so I don't know if you wanna be making fun of your base retard.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549228046 201992443,201996918,2019-02-03 21:08:03,">>201996543 Pic is true to a degree we need to take some action, we should all move somewhere",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228083 201992443,201996950,2019-02-03 21:08:26,">>201996748 This is why no one takes you with any thought the argument was over ages ago that's why it's stupid that you think you won... You lost the argument that's why nowhere in the world follow a libertarian style government.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549228106 201992443,201996994,2019-02-03 21:09:01,"corporations aren't ancap. partnerships are, corporations aren't. Every corporation exists only because a government says it does. It only has the rights privileges and duties that a government says it does. It pays extra taxation for extra liability protection (liability limited to only the assets of corporation), thus it externalizes risk to involuntary third parties who might be harmed by the corporation in excess of the assets of the corporation and must then shoulder that burden. As such, corporations in their modern form could not exist in an ancap society. Ancaps who argue otherwise are simply shilling for big business.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228141 201992443,201997013,2019-02-03 21:09:12,">>201996748 You're using a fucking memeflag and criticizing others for using memeflags, and visiting costa rica would you like me to post some pictures with my passport?",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549228152 201992443,201997037,2019-02-03 21:09:23,">>201996543 I do agree. It is a problem. The welfare state breeds retards that become stormfaggots. It must be stopped.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228163 201992443,201997116,2019-02-03 21:10:13,">>201996918 You should go to Vermont and join the Free State Project.",,Anonymous,1400037416023.jpg,OKLxt6rJdxoq7tRaLqcG0w==,US,United States,1549228213 201992443,201997133,2019-02-03 21:10:26,Wonder whats going on here.,,Anonymous,original.jpg,8Kb8ORDZXUxSgBPOtCTyAg==,US,United States,1549228226 201992443,201997162,2019-02-03 21:10:47,">>201996762 ""Drug dealers"" are nowhere near as subversive as faggots",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228247 201992443,201997195,2019-02-03 21:11:06,">>201996994 capitalism only exists because government says it does, retard. capitalist property rights are literally only defended by statist violence. heck, the very inception of capitalism was with the enclosure acts, a massive act of statist coercion. god ancaps are literally the lowest form of life",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549228266 201992443,201997201,2019-02-03 21:11:12,">>201997013 >would you like me to post some pictures with my passport?",,Anonymous,carry-out-the-aforementioned-deed-sodomite-3954483.png,BqDBhIgyZVUs4zVI6A5v+A==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228272 201992443,201997238,2019-02-03 21:11:31,">>201997116 Meant New Hampshire, but it's all basically becoming the same place now.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228291 201992443,201997239,2019-02-03 21:11:32,">>201997116 >Vermont",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228292 201992443,201997243,2019-02-03 21:11:34,">>201996994 So a group of people partnering and forming an organization and since you live in a voluntary society with voluntary laws, congrats you've enforced the corporations voluntarily your argument makes no difference in reality. People will collectivize and thus whatever definition you try and play semantics with makes no difference.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549228294 201992443,201997315,2019-02-03 21:12:14,">>201997201 See, using a memeflag, criticizing others for using meme flags this is how mentally retarded you are.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549228334 201992443,201997401,2019-02-03 21:13:05,">>201994651 absolutely patrician",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228385 201992443,201997416,2019-02-03 21:13:14,">>201997116 >>201997238 True but Liberland is a more extreme Ancap nation",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228394 201992443,201997437,2019-02-03 21:13:31,">>201997315 >See, using a memeflag, criticizing others for using meme flags this is how mentally retarded you are. >just using the stormfaggot memeflag cool proxy, bro. gb2canada",,Anonymous,37e.jpg,dl2F+0Jc4NsqMRXw4wPAlg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228411 201992443,201997480,2019-02-03 21:13:53,">>201997162 Faggots are a problem. But faggotry isn't killing nearly as many people as opioids. You'd legalize this and not even try to combat it. Hell, you'd let your corporate masters advertise str8 Fent to fucking children for recreation. People are ancaps for two reasons. Drugs and kid fucking or both.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228433 201992443,201997485,2019-02-03 21:13:56,">>201997195 They won't stay ancaps forever they will either >realize they were retards and become natsoc >become ansyn and keep being spergs no one is a lolbertarian considering population views.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549228436 201992443,201997579,2019-02-03 21:14:53,">Free private cities rolling in this year >Liberland >Free State Project Now remind me when did the stormfags have actually set up a national-socialist state in the last 20 years? oh wait you fuckers can't",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549228493 201992443,201997588,2019-02-03 21:14:57,">>201997195 moron. I'm not an ancap. but I'm sure as fuck not an brainwashed communist either who wants to turn everybody into honeybees.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228497 201992443,201997611,2019-02-03 21:15:17,">>201997116 The free state project may as well be antifa. Its antifa that believes in private property. Its Jeffry Tucker tier. Look him up. Communists figured out that capitalism is a better avenue for the sort of social repression that they want.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228517 201992443,201997625,2019-02-03 21:15:24,">>201997195 t. sargoy lmao >>201997480 >opiods the state is the biggest drug dealer by a factor of a thousand",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228524 201992443,201997648,2019-02-03 21:15:40,">>201997480 >But faggotry isn't killing nearly as many people as opioids. >Government regulations allow corporations to create the opioid epidemic",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228540 201992443,201997787,2019-02-03 21:16:52,"Make /pol/ great again, start here: “Impeach Trump and Die”. (2019) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07M7DWJSN",,Anonymous,Impeach Trump and Die.jpg,Di3Og2DQW1pR9Csa3yrnAw==,US,United States,1549228612 201992443,201997845,2019-02-03 21:17:29,">>201997243 corporations are more than just a collection of people coming together voluntarily. corporations have several distinct properties in law that cannot be achieved through mutual agreement, because they involve how the corporation is to be treated by third parties who have no input and could not voluntarily agree. That is a huge difference from people saying they are working together (which is a partnership). Without a government enforcing the distinction all corporate entities would be simply partnerships (subject to unlimited liability for the harms they caused).",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228649 201992443,201997880,2019-02-03 21:17:52,">>201997579 I only learnt about those quite recently my hopes are high for the future",,Anonymous,1486886389075.jpg,1t2V4+YWXBySpGSDW351wQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228672 201992443,201997923,2019-02-03 21:18:15,">>201997437 Here's me in the middle of the jungle, take a look at how Canada looks now compare it doesn't look even partly similar you memeflag retards.",,Anonymous,proxylol.jpg,olGdyZGpSt35gS8GVvxtEQ==,CR,Costa Rica,1549228695 201992443,201997986,2019-02-03 21:19:04,">>201997845 So they can do the exact same thing, act the same way they just won't be considered such under ""law"" okay retard it sounds like your playing semantic games.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549228744 201992443,201998062,2019-02-03 21:19:53,">>201997923 >>201997986 OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549228793 201992443,201998126,2019-02-03 21:20:33,"Ancaps are fucking retarded. You'd get big government in the form of companies. And yes, they would have lots of power. Look at how facebook and google suppress free speech, even in America.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549228833 201992443,201998178,2019-02-03 21:21:02,"We were so close bros. Why did we have to lose? https://youtu.be/wzDl-EjlCY4",,Anonymous,battle-of-gettysburg-painting-battle-of-gettysburg-painting-battle-of-gettysburg-jimandjoseph.jpg,E9EAUIfrvgoapJT45uaOEQ==,US,United States,1549228862 201992443,201998188,2019-02-03 21:21:09,">>201997625 >>201997648 The Sackler family and Perdue is not the fucking government.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228869 201992443,201998246,2019-02-03 21:21:44,">>201997923 see >>201997201 Where is your passport?",,Anonymous,77285-I-think-this-might-be-photosho-EaZN.jpg,+56DCSesGwE1/AzclwnDLA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228904 201992443,201998252,2019-02-03 21:21:54,">>201998126 >kekistani >no understanding of economic principles >yet spouting his laymen opinion",,Anonymous,1538067235892.png,WOMk9vbYeGtLk2dEngO+pA==,BR,Brazil,1549228914 201992443,201998283,2019-02-03 21:22:08,">>201998188 >The Sackler family and Perdue is not the fucking government. >what they did was impossible without government",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228928 201992443,201998306,2019-02-03 21:22:22,">>201992709 Why do you care about achievements that aren't yours and people who don't know you even exist, and if they did know, would want to disassociate with your poor wigger ass?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228942 201992443,201998318,2019-02-03 21:22:28,">>201997986 are you stupid?? do you understand what limited liability means?? how are you going to achieve that through purely voluntary means?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228948 201992443,201998322,2019-02-03 21:22:31,">>201998126 indeed, they want the same thing we have now just to ""reset"" it",,Anonymous,leaf.jpg,8Mxr/MSarvZKgR9tD5kntA==,CR,Costa Rica,1549228951 201992443,201998324,2019-02-03 21:22:33,">>201997923 How is CR anon? Thinking about moving into the mountains, buying 10 acres, and planting fruit trees and gardens",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549228953 201992443,201998354,2019-02-03 21:22:46,">>201992443 >Withur We - Matthew Alexander http://www.withurwe.com/downloads/Withur_We_by_Matthew_Bruce_Alexander.pdf",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549228966 201992443,201998449,2019-02-03 21:23:49,">>201997579 Name some of the free private cities,",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229029 201992443,201998494,2019-02-03 21:24:10,">>201992443 ARE WE BACK GUYS, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!",,Anonymous,Hans-Hermann-Hoppe (1).jpg,9oYfzoaM1h0laAcSL4AKwQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549229050 201992443,201998512,2019-02-03 21:24:20,">>201998306 he's weak and can't accomplish nothing himself, as most stormfags, still living in their mother's basement",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229060 201992443,201998568,2019-02-03 21:24:51,">>201998283 How? If you could buy oxy like candy at a fucking 7/11 where do you think we'd be? A caved in head wojak does not exist which adequately portrays how fucking stupid you are.",,Anonymous,ANCAP.jpg,i60UpmeIII+pILBghH9fKA==,US,United States,1549229091 201992443,201998569,2019-02-03 21:24:53,">>201998449 can't you read burger?",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229093 201992443,201998570,2019-02-03 21:24:53,">>201998252 >HURR DURR MUH ECONOMICS It doesnt take an economist to realize that without a limiting power, (Reasonably sized govt), corporations will run wild.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549229093 201992443,201998576,2019-02-03 21:24:55,">>201998494 >ARE WE BACK GUYS, I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS! We never left.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549229095 201992443,201998607,2019-02-03 21:25:12,">>201998246 Right here, now why don't you take off your memeflag and stop being a sperg you mossad agent kike.",,Anonymous,photoshopop.jpg,D/pK5hrT/aWg6mRi31IoZQ==,CR,Costa Rica,1549229112 201992443,201998608,2019-02-03 21:25:14,"The only reason non whites are able to survive is because of gibs. Lolbertarians get rid of gibs because it's theft. Non whites die. Natsocs try to kill off nonwhites forcefully. This alerts other countries who think it looks bad and intervene. The government would fuck up even a genocide, even if it had the opportunity to attempt one. Use your fucking brains I thought pol was smart.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229114 201992443,201998631,2019-02-03 21:25:27,">>201997923 Are you a Junglian?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229127 201992443,201998638,2019-02-03 21:25:32,">>201998570 ah yes, and eating ants cures bad eyesight",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229132 201992443,201998692,2019-02-03 21:26:05,">>201998569 So it’s a nothingburger",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229165 201992443,201998695,2019-02-03 21:26:05,">>201998306 Your advocating and ideology that has never existed, never worked, and will result into the same shithole we have today.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229165 201992443,201998715,2019-02-03 21:26:15,">>201994531 Free market leads to niggers dying out. Feminism is cancer and is hinged on the belief of equality, which is false. The Jews, specifically, (((White))) ones do run the world.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229175 201992443,201998758,2019-02-03 21:26:35,">>201998576 Where has /lrg/ been then? Once a month doesnt suffice!",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549229195 201992443,201998767,2019-02-03 21:26:42,">>201998631 >Junglian Na i'm from murica",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229202 201992443,201998768,2019-02-03 21:26:41,">>201997133 >all jews working together in some masterplan Stop with jewish fetish mate What happen is that a lot of jews go to economic university and some jews that are not in power are seeing that the goverment is taking our money and our freedom. >>201998126 The goverment is already more powerfull than any corporation. We have a better chance with no goverment",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229201 201992443,201998836,2019-02-03 21:27:26,">>201998638 Knowing Brazilians, half your family probably thinks that's true.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549229246 201992443,201998843,2019-02-03 21:27:30,,,Anonymous,1532386557867.jpg,nRwX9W/tAk9bzZ48CDjvmw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549229250 201992443,201998898,2019-02-03 21:28:06,ancap = you are completely free to do anything you want! except free to voluntary form a government with like minded people over territory you privately own and control.,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229286 201992443,201998902,2019-02-03 21:28:10,">>201998324 it's beautiful i'm buying 3 acres soon and going to grow here while the civil war kicks off and once I build my family I will go fight for my volk. It is a little slow sometimes regarding government but the people are cool & I love the beaches.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229290 201992443,201998932,2019-02-03 21:28:29,">>201998768 >No government Nigger, look at somalia.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549229309 201992443,201999010,2019-02-03 21:29:17,">>201998898 This is how they are mentally retarded.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229357 201992443,201999032,2019-02-03 21:29:27,">>201998843 >3 fags mad at a closeted fag Cute pic",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229367 201992443,201999036,2019-02-03 21:29:31,">>201996106 >Removing all non-Jews >Being smart and allowing yourself to fuck over other groups >Essentially let each other get free services >Gaining an economic advantage over retards Nazism is a shitty nigger-lite version of Zionism.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229371 201992443,201999047,2019-02-03 21:29:36,">>201998568 >If you could buy oxy like candy at a fucking 7/11 where do you think we'd be? A caved in head wojak does not exist which adequately portrays how fucking stupid you are. Legal doesn't mean you can sell to minors, retard. They lack the capacity to consent. Legal drugs means finding legal help to get off them without being thrown in prison. It also means that safer alternatives will push out the competition for shit like oxy and analogs, just like fentanyl, bath salts, and so on right now. Besides, if grown ass adults want to kill themselves on drugs, that is their business.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549229376 201992443,201999051,2019-02-03 21:29:39,"Brazil is getting libertarian as fuck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaRyvgbHCV4",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229379 201992443,201999205,2019-02-03 21:31:06,">>201998768 Look at HR 672 ""To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"" -Voltaire ""Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, the State of Israel, or even for acts committed by non-Jews."" So the state must fight against those who criticize israel on real or imaginary acts okay lol it's a huge conspiracy right?",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229466 201992443,201999224,2019-02-03 21:31:18,">>201998607 >Right here, now why don't you take off your memeflag and stop being a sperg you mossad agent kike. So you stole an american passport. Big deal. That isn't yours. Open that passport to the info page, hold it next to your face, and take a selfie. It's the only way.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549229478 201992443,201999246,2019-02-03 21:31:27,">>201992443 All libs get the rope. Libertarians and liberals alike.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229487 201992443,201999311,2019-02-03 21:32:17,">>201999051 Fuck libertarians too. They nearly destroyed the U.S",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549229537 201992443,201999344,2019-02-03 21:32:34,">>201998932 They are not 100% anacaps",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229554 201992443,201999375,2019-02-03 21:32:48,">>201999047 >Besides, if grown ass adults want to kill themselves on drugs, that is their business. There it is again. Like I said. The motives for being an ancap are always completely socially abhorrent. Kid fuckers and pushers.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229568 201992443,201999406,2019-02-03 21:33:05,">>201999036 Unlike zionism we won't have rich capitalists living in great neighborhoods and only 3 blocks away having near 3rd world slums. WE care about our volk.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229585 201992443,201999475,2019-02-03 21:33:49,">>201999224 That is the most retarded thing any memeflag has ever said ever get off of 4chan you kike.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229629 201992443,201999501,2019-02-03 21:34:10,">>201999224 Damn, he's kicking your ass, so now you say: >""HURR DURR STULEN PISSPURT"" >Ancap logic /thread",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549229650 201992443,201999512,2019-02-03 21:34:15,">>201999311 tell me more fellow kekstany",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229655 201992443,201999676,2019-02-03 21:35:52,">>201999501 Dude that's their entire fucking logic, their arguments are >kys >stormfag >our definition defines it differently >semantic retardation >our societies are amazing yet all civilizations fall >memeflag, while having a memeflag retards.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229752 201992443,201999681,2019-02-03 21:35:54,">>201998695 No, what led to our modern shithole is people with power manipulating everyone else, and distracting us with their mirage of society and a state. Assuming you hate Israel and ""refugees"" in Europe, as well as illegal immigration. These are solved by my ideology. No more state, so no one to redistribute our rightfully earned shekels to Israel. All land is owned by someone, so naturally, those who earn higher wages will be in their own little bubble of land and not have to deal with nogs, though assuming you're probably poor and work an unskilled job, you're out of luck. Similar thing with illegals, they'll be locked in whatever place they are coming from and it'll cost them money they don't have to try to move somewhere, also they'd have no incentive to move to another country to begin with because countries/states wouldn't exist anymore (and die off).",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229754 201992443,201999690,2019-02-03 21:36:00,">>201998898 All forms of ""anarchism"" are 100% speculation and not even worth discussing. Just a load of teen autists convinced that their particular form of anarchism is how lack of government would turn out, and what all they all have in common is a failure to acknowledge that anarchism existed many thousands of years ago, pre-civilisation. To them, this period was a true ""free market"" or game of ""survival of the fittest"". Tribal warfare, the same way chimpanzees live. And in this game, time and time again and on every territory and landmass on earth, the nation state won, time and time again. Anarchy is nothing but a vacuum, and the nation state is an inevitable and intrinsic human force equalled only by religion.",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549229760 201992443,201999700,2019-02-03 21:36:04,">>201999051 MBL is not anacap",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229764 201992443,201999710,2019-02-03 21:36:10,">>201998902 yeah that sounds good, want to do the same. Me and the ol' lady thinking about starting the next generation of snipers who can train and go fight in the coming civil wars as well. Just need a place without fucking libtards and jews",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229770 201992443,201999741,2019-02-03 21:36:28,">>201999344 You sound like commies when they say >HURR DURR, NOT FULL COMMUNISM >HURR DURR, NOT FULL ANCAPS Y'see how dumb you sound?",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549229788 201992443,201999753,2019-02-03 21:36:36,">>201999700 they are not. i never said it.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549229796 201992443,201999761,2019-02-03 21:36:40,">>201999246 Fully agreed the day of the rope will be one of capitalists and (((them)))",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229800 201992443,201999793,2019-02-03 21:36:55,">>201999375 >There it is again. Like I said. The motives for being an ancap are always completely socially abhorrent. Kid fuckers and pushers. >being this gay Drug prohibition has made for more drugs, not less, you fucking retard. You lessen the problem with legalization. If you're such a moralfag, then you're taking away God's gift of free will when you try to force people out of getting to make a choice about their own lives. Rethink your life, fucktard.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549229815 201992443,201999865,2019-02-03 21:37:37,">>201999512 Look up constitutional convention.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549229857 201992443,201999895,2019-02-03 21:37:51,">>201998898 t. retard. Freedom of association. You realize you can live near other like-minded people so long as you have sufficient funds to own/rent the land, right? If anything, now there won't be a government stuffing your towns with nogs, or a ""society"" to tell you that ""wasithm iz baad.""",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229871 201992443,201999911,2019-02-03 21:38:01,">>201999501 >Damn, he's kicking your ass, so now you say: >kekistan Prove where he kicked anyone's ass but his own.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549229881 201992443,202000043,2019-02-03 21:39:14,">>201999681 > people with power manipulating everyone else So jews manipulating people and if you have a voluntary society controlled by businessmen who are Jewish what do you think will happen? ""No more state, so no one to redistribute our rightfully earned shekels to Israel."" How will you get rid of the state and stop people from voluntarily organizing without violating your own principles? ""All land is owned by someone, so naturally, those who earn higher wages will be in their own little bubble of land and not have to deal with nogs, though assuming you're probably poor and work an unskilled job, you're out of luck"" So white people sorry goyim (((we))) own your land your out of luck. this will result in the same family controlled, jewish controlled society we have today",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549229954 201992443,202000050,2019-02-03 21:39:19,">>201999311 YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED JESUS CHRIST. We support the destruction of all states, not just this shitty culture-less wreck of land. This is good because you can now surround yourself with other white people should you want to do so.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549229959 201992443,202000156,2019-02-03 21:40:10,">>201999741 take meme flag away, tranny Jew.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549230010 201992443,202000170,2019-02-03 21:40:18,">>201999911 See:>>201998607 And:>>201999224 Nigger.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549230018 201992443,202000210,2019-02-03 21:40:38,">>202000043 Yes, except you won't be forced to opt-in",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230038 201992443,202000220,2019-02-03 21:40:44,">>201999710 Yeah I can't wait to be fully living on my own land in a ethnostate, no one will bother you, people from all over the world are here so it's nice meeting whites who have seen the shitholes they are from.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230044 201992443,202000297,2019-02-03 21:41:20,">>201999406 >""volk"" Stop LARPing you filthy nigger-mestizo. Not every white person deserves to live. I'd say 80% of them should just die or be kept alive for prostitution and reproduction. Why do you want to support people with below 110 IQs living. It's a drain on resources and they're all replaceable with machines.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230080 201992443,202000306,2019-02-03 21:41:24,">>202000156 Fuck you. My flag stands for a completely unrelated cause.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549230084 201992443,202000308,2019-02-03 21:41:23,">>201999681 Without borders there'd be no such thing as rich countries and poor countries as there'd be 100% labour mobility. Culture would be eroded in an instant, everything would turn into a mongrelised melting pot of consumerism with a spattering of gated communities of super-rich 0.1% who'd eventually develop AIs and robots to do the jobs of the working class, who would then revolt and be killed off or enslaved.",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549230083 201992443,202000361,2019-02-03 21:41:54,">>202000170 >>Nigger. >late to the party lurk moar",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549230114 201992443,202000362,2019-02-03 21:41:55,">>202000210 So the option is either work & become indebted to the jewish state, or die. wow what a great sounding society I wanna live in.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230115 201992443,202000368,2019-02-03 21:41:59,">>202000050 You can do that either way? >east europe",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549230119 201992443,202000492,2019-02-03 21:43:21,">>202000297 That's why the day of the rope will be filled with communists, capitalists, and kike faggots like you. Also you can scroll up and see me holding a passport you can see my skin color is quite white unlike your arab kike skin.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230201 201992443,202000531,2019-02-03 21:43:41,">>202000361 >Oh look, he's run out of arguments so now he's just throwing insults like a chimp with shit!",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549230221 201992443,202000623,2019-02-03 21:44:32,">>202000306 you are a faggot tranny Jew who is worth nothing, out to destroy and weaken others because you take pleasure in doing so. kill yourself tonight.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549230272 201992443,202000657,2019-02-03 21:44:56,">>202000531 That's the only thing they can do, they cannot come up with a single thought that doesn't result into monarchy and the same shithole we are in today.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230296 201992443,202000678,2019-02-03 21:45:08,"The system we have now is pretty good. I'm happy with it. >Excluding lefties/commies, but hey, free speech.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549230308 201992443,202000774,2019-02-03 21:45:57,">>201997037 Since Ancaps are a small group that can't accomplish anything, it would seem you guys are the genetic dead end, and those left will be people actually willing to engage in collective action.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230357 201992443,202000775,2019-02-03 21:45:58,">>202000043 Hey buddy, you know you don't have to follow their rules anymore after the state dissolves, right? War, if people want to freely associate with each other, they can do that, I don't give a shit, I'll probably do that too, everyone will dipshit. So long as they don't try to violate me or my property they can do what they want. Tough shit faggot, guess you're a wagecuck who earns as much as the niggers you're supposedly so superior to. (Just to clarify you probably are but not enough so.) Then they're the rightful owners and have the best minds, therefore are un-ironically the master race",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230358 201992443,202000831,2019-02-03 21:46:28,">>202000623 I'm worth nothing? >Literally a Brazilian HUE HUE HUE HUE",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549230388 201992443,202000876,2019-02-03 21:46:52,">>202000531 >>Oh look, he's run out of arguments so now he's just throwing insults like a chimp with shit! Try harder, fgt. If you can't see it, then you're just as bad as the stormfaggot. Hell, other people have elaborated on that point without my need to. see >>201997845 You faggots are not worth wasting my time on.",,Anonymous,1548902413817.gif,TKgC8So/i5WugjjuLisD5g==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549230412 201992443,202000921,2019-02-03 21:47:19,">>201999793 >Drug prohibition has made for more drugs, not less oh yeah dude, putting str8 fent on walmart shelves with no legal penalty will totally lessen the problem dude. You're an edgy child.",,Anonymous,1470558954992.jpg,7SWMJHZAXZnVuwNL5XXX2Q==,US,United States,1549230439 201992443,202000961,2019-02-03 21:47:40,">>202000308 That's the poor people's problem then, not mine. I don't give a shit if your genetics don't allow you to think on an equal level to mine and acquire as much wealth to pass on your shitty genetics. Most people are retarded and unfortunately will die. those top ""muh 0.1%"" people are the rightful rulers.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230460 201992443,202001025,2019-02-03 21:48:13,">>202000831 you are content with getting cock in your ass as long as you can watch your favorite comedians talk about dead babies. i'd rather be from Angola than to be you.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549230493 201992443,202001046,2019-02-03 21:48:23,">>202000774 >Since Ancaps are a small group that can't accomplish anything Bigger than you, stormfag. That's why you ride our coattails.",,Anonymous,14938146_150420855428834_8971371813825733829_n.jpg,4EUrYc/cX64MS28Re6VVkQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549230503 201992443,202001175,2019-02-03 21:49:37,">>202000921 >oh yeah dude, putting str8 fent on walmart shelves with no legal penalty will totally lessen the problem dude. Yeah, walmart doesn't even sell edgy cd's. They would totally put that on the shelves and risk enormous lawsuits.",,Anonymous,78470.jpg,N76vGOUWPoyDtQFv78pgJg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549230577 201992443,202001334,2019-02-03 21:51:04,">>202001025 You're content with getting rammed in the ass alongside your govt. by druglords because you spicks never could build anything as good as america.",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549230664 201992443,202001359,2019-02-03 21:51:17,">>202000775 >Hey buddy, you know you don't have to follow their rules anymore after the state dissolves, right?"" Okay then if I form a state, and make my own natsoc society you'll be cool with it? Nope you won't >War, if people want to freely associate with each other, they can do that, I don't give a shit, I'll probably do that too, everyone will dipshit. So long as they don't try to violate me or my property they can do what they want. That violates the NAP lol your not advocating for lolbertarianism >Tough shit faggot, guess you're a wagecuck who earns as much as the niggers you're supposedly so superior to. (Just to clarify you probably are but not enough so.) So you wanna be under jews, paying usury, losing your race, culture, and everything your people have made because you think it will be better? Also I own 3 acres in Costa Rica scroll up >hen they're the rightful owners and have the best minds, therefore are un-ironically the master race So you want the same thing we have today, where you and your people are slaves and will be forced to become a minority while your societies IQ plummets Wow what a great world you want.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230677 201992443,202001421,2019-02-03 21:51:55,">>202000921 Fent vs molly is apples to orangutans One cures depression and the other is a tool for systemic death - in other words no psychotropic drug is absolutely bad, as in its all relative, for all of them have specific functions on the body Nobody has a clue these days and its solely because of the LE racket An inordinate sum of wisdom, intelligence, empathy, and knowledge is what it takes to reform drug laws and we wont have all that in one place until after WW3",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230715 201992443,202001462,2019-02-03 21:52:24,">>202000492 >""I-I'm going t-t-to hang y-you fucking race tr8rs at the end of this. Y-You'll see that you w-were on th-the w-wrong s-side."" Well God damn, we have an edgelord on our hands. I don't care if you're purple, you're still a nigger to me because you have some strange emotional attachment to people who don't care about you. Your IQ is probably in the double digits faggot, white or not, so try to make some more money picking bananas so my family can get back to enjoying the fruits of your labor while you waste away on a shitty Caribbean Island filled to the brim with niggers, and maybe you'll get to nut in a woman and pro-create.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230744 201992443,202001502,2019-02-03 21:52:43,">>202001046 Lol, you guys can't even run your discord servers without them becoming shitholes and filled with furry porn. The heelturn network and Jean francois Gariepy alone get thousands of viewers each night and yet we are riding on your coat tails lmao get a life.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230763 201992443,202001508,2019-02-03 21:52:46,">>201992443 i love ancaps ! ! !",,Anonymous,ThroatSlit.gif,Lg/hum2N29jRTJcwufkjKQ==,US,United States,1549230766 201992443,202001648,2019-02-03 21:54:02,">>202001046 >Implying I'm a stormfag The purple haired SJWs are bringing in more of the second and third world. The stormfags are happy about a rise in white racial consciousness. People are more interested in Tucker Carlson and Cortez than anything now. Ron Paul and the Libertarians failed.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230842 201992443,202001713,2019-02-03 21:54:40,">>202001502 >thousands of viewers",,Anonymous,1549219736442.gif,PoEjSETZb0/WbATpEOTwag==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549230880 201992443,202001726,2019-02-03 21:54:47,/thread,,Anonymous,1536882640745.jpg,VNPk0dGdCmTio+Xqksr3MQ==,,Kekistani,1549230887 201992443,202001749,2019-02-03 21:54:59,">>202001648 That's their only argument >stormfag >our culture is crumbling guess we better drink more Jewish semen.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230899 201992443,202001811,2019-02-03 21:55:44,">>202000362 Nigger what are yoy gonna die from? Exposure??",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549230944 201992443,202001839,2019-02-03 21:56:05,">>202001648 >People are more interested in Tucker Carlson and Cortez than anything now. Ron Paul and the Libertarians failed. >saved your faggot asses from total Democrat domination while you were too busy sucking McCain and Romney dick",,Anonymous,43091.jpg,yqCwAhJZnv6NR0pPIhe/Ow==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549230965 201992443,202001892,2019-02-03 21:56:37,">>202001713 Where is your support? 4chan? look at Charlottesville look at what we have already done you've simply sat behind your desk and started sucking circumcised Jewish dick >yes massa no more foreskin for me >I want your economic system inside me",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549230997 201992443,202001928,2019-02-03 21:57:00,>ITT,,Anonymous,1505331294123.png,13GT4DAU1XZfCZSfywoeSg==,US,United States,1549231020 201992443,202002203,2019-02-03 21:57:23,">>202001749 >>stormfag >>our culture is crumbling guess we better drink more Jewish semen.",,Anonymous,1549205556145.png,ooYVOKbPRYCg8r2FoJEQxg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549231043 201992443,202002260,2019-02-03 21:58:04,">>202001811 Probably the jewish owned armies or I will build my own society of the majority of the population that you spergs did not let in, I will build my own army and then invade your 40 person gated community.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549231084 201992443,202002383,2019-02-03 21:59:32,>>202001928,,Anonymous,1498863299285.gif,1A346pVxfIezF8NFnDC+Yw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549231172 201992443,202002384,2019-02-03 21:59:34,">>202002203 >Eternal Jew as enemy that's all I needed to hear to support them 1488",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549231174 201992443,202002421,2019-02-03 21:59:55,">>202002260 Now you're getting it",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231195 201992443,202002440,2019-02-03 22:00:07,">>202001928 ancaps are the best ideology ! ! ! nazis bad ! ! !",,Anonymous,Japan-Nanjiing-Woman.jpg,w0AdphKP9xfW18drnJqizg==,US,United States,1549231207 201992443,202002521,2019-02-03 22:01:09,">>202001839 >thinks his freedumz brigade helped in any other way than the same way Jill Stein helped the Democratic party Stay mad that people only got really fired up about the Republican party when Trump came on to talk about illegals, building a wall, fuck China, and bring shit back to America. Nobody gave a fuck about muh free marketz.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231269 201992443,202002538,2019-02-03 22:01:19,">>202002440 now you get it",,Anonymous,1485688899367.png,XFS7UD9BDCG48y6zl2LhgQ==,US,United States,1549231279 201992443,202002540,2019-02-03 22:01:23,">>202002421 So you're fine with me forming another state? What kind of anarchist are you lol, my society can tax it's people and since you will kick out more people than you let in it will also be larger, are you a death cult supporter?",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549231283 201992443,202002578,2019-02-03 22:01:53,">>201992443 LETS GOOOOOOOOO ANCAP GENERAL BASED ANCAPS",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549231313 201992443,202002616,2019-02-03 22:02:18,">>202002538 don't talk to me nigger",,Anonymous,Shotgunmouthwash.jpg,4VxGE5XyMMdVxgP5OvI6Aw==,US,United States,1549231338 201992443,202002667,2019-02-03 22:02:48,">>202001359 If it's voluntary, and you don't force people to join your LARPville, I'm cool with it yes. Tearing down people who steal my profit and will incarcerate me if I don't comply is perfectly in line with the NAP you absolute fucking monkey. Whoever ends up being the top cult have superior genetics, so yes. There is no such thing as a victimless crime, so usury isn't an issue for me. My race is comprised of self-righteous faggots such as yourself and their culture, while having advanced very far, is nearing the end of the tunnel and realizing that culture is retarded and for faggots who enjoy things for emotional reasons rather than objective, practical shit. I can't take credit for their achievements of their faults because I had no control over them, so I don't give a shit about it. Good for you, soon you'll be out of business because being a figurehead in a business with no other skills besides counting shekels isn't a good resume. Being an electrical engineer will be needed for some time, at least enough to secure a future for MY children, not filthy niggers who need handouts and a government to do it for them. The ""muh volk"" argument is getting old m'nigga. I don't give a shit about you and your plantation. If most of society is falling, that's good, that means the survivors of that meltdown, the elite will be the only ones left and build a utopia beyond my comprehension.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231368 201992443,202002721,2019-02-03 22:03:32,">>201993158 a savage breakdown and hot take. libertarianism completely BTFO'd eternally. Well done, anon. Upvoted.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549231412 201992443,202002732,2019-02-03 22:03:43,">>201992443 Okay, want to get fucked? Sure. Anarcho-capitalists are against control of the economy, yes? Cause even monopolies will destroy by themselves. Well, what about reproduction? Women have the monopoly on reproduction, and unless they want to have kids, you will be done. Anjd if they don't you are gonna have MASSIVE immigration. And if you become the minority in your nation, your nation will break ( happened in every empire ). How do you fix it? You control them. Just a tad. Thus a tad of control. Thus no anarcho capitalism. Thus your nation is saved.",,Anonymous,,,IT,Italy,1549231423 201992443,202002738,2019-02-03 22:03:44,">>201992709 NatSoc: the quickest-to-fail version of communism.",,Anonymous,4DF0BC58-845C-4E75-8CD8-7B65ED9D4934.jpg,qChK+IJC8jJI+KaAvMdGTQ==,US,United States,1549231424 201992443,202002739,2019-02-03 22:03:45,">>202002616 do something about it pussy",,Anonymous,1537672057243.jpg,7RpQeovDsGeuMnOHOgrnfg==,US,United States,1549231425 201992443,202002771,2019-02-03 22:04:05,">>202002521 >>Stay mad that people only got really fired up about the Republican party when Trump came on to talk about illegals, building a wall, fuck China, and bring shit back to America. Nobody gave a fuck about muh free marketz. >Retards ten years too late to the party",,Anonymous,1547246588877s.jpg,SgNbpeNAJuooA9KJUykeow==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549231445 201992443,202002820,2019-02-03 22:04:37,">>201993495 gibs is on the ancap side and not the socialist side? lol... god u guys have nothing but character attacks",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549231477 201992443,202002840,2019-02-03 22:04:52,">>202002260 t. powerhungry spic LARPer who has a napoleon complex that he has inferior genetic than the people he despises.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231492 201992443,202002897,2019-02-03 22:05:28,">>201993664 >>201993847 hes baiting, hes a ancap pretending to be a natsoc so u can btfo him. theres no way these nazis are so retarded.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549231528 201992443,202002941,2019-02-03 22:05:49,">>202002771 >thinks his freedom brigade had anything to do with Trump",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231549 201992443,202003032,2019-02-03 22:07:02,">>202002667 > If most of society is falling, that's good, that means the survivors of that meltdown, the elite will be the only ones left and build a utopia beyond my comprehension. So the same elite who exist now and created the shit hole we're already in.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231622 201992443,202003035,2019-02-03 22:07:04,">>201994554 LOL ""ur ideology was taken over by jews!"" LMFAO how do you take an IDEA OVER AHHAAHAHAHHAHAAHAHHAAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAH OMG these retards attacking ancaps are HILARIOUS",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549231624 201992443,202003084,2019-02-03 22:07:41,">>202002840 *inferior geneticS my bad niggers",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231661 201992443,202003109,2019-02-03 22:07:59,">>202002941 >>thinks his freedom brigade had anything to do with Trump >Ron Paul accidentally creates the tea party > tea party goes full retard > the remnants settle on Trump",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549231679 201992443,202003129,2019-02-03 22:08:05,">>202002540 As long as people are in your state by choice it isn't taxation Otherwise we're carpet bombing your ass",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231685 201992443,202003167,2019-02-03 22:08:31,">>202002667 No one will be forced to save their race, however once we become large enough we will kill those who threaten it like your jewish controlled ancap societies lol >Tearing down people who steal my profit and will incarcerate me if I don't comply is perfectly in line with the NAP you absolute fucking monkey. You said ""war"" that violates the NAP >hoever ends up being the top cult have superior genetics, so yes. There is no such thing as a victimless crime, so usury isn't an issue for me. My race is comprised of self-righteous faggots such as yourself and their culture, while having advanced very far, is nearing the end of the tunnel and realizing that culture is retarded and for faggots who enjoy things for emotional reasons rather than objective, practical shit. I can't take credit for their achievements of their faults because I had no control over them, so I don't give a shit about it. Good for you, soon you'll be out of business because being a figurehead in a business with no other skills besides counting shekels isn't a good resume. Being an electrical engineer will be needed for some time, at least enough to secure a future for MY children, not filthy niggers who need handouts and a government to do it for them. So when you become indebted and you are unable to feed your family, unable to go bankrupt, unable to criticize them thanks to laws like HR 672 what do you think will happen? you think that is a victimless crime? >The ""muh volk"" argument is getting old m'nigga. I don't give a shit about you and your plantation. If most of society is falling, that's good, that means the survivors of that meltdown, the elite will be the only ones left and build a utopia beyond my comprehension. I want my RACE to survive, I want my people to survive, how will you build a utopia when your jewish masters import under 70 IQ niggers and spics? How is this any different than todays society? you are mentally retarded do things look like a utopia?",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549231711 201992443,202003233,2019-02-03 22:09:14,">>202003129 Dude you cannot even agree on how your society can be formed I'm not worried about you and your lolberts bombing me lmao.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549231754 201992443,202003241,2019-02-03 22:09:21,">>202003032 Because you retards decided to prop up a state and support the shit that managed to survive, since not the retards die, because again, you idiots give handouts based on compassion to people you feel sorry for, like women. You to your volkbeards women to niggers and niglets who can't sustain themselves.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231761 201992443,202003257,2019-02-03 22:09:31,">>202001892 >Where is your support? 4chan? look at Charlottesville look at what we have already done you've simply sat behind your desk and started sucking circumcised Jewish dick >vehicular homicide so edgy, bruh",,Anonymous,1548976312717.png,tR/BB+XndU9ac/NJidA1tg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549231771 201992443,202003332,2019-02-03 22:10:09,">>201995999 MUH SIDE pure cringe LOL collectivist statist nut hugger",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549231809 201992443,202003334,2019-02-03 22:10:11,">>202003241 You don't think corporations and people won't build a state? lmao you already said it's fine if it's voluntary",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549231811 201992443,202003349,2019-02-03 22:10:21,">>202003233 >society Nigga you keep using that word, we believe in the freedom of the individual. People will form whatever society they see fit",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231821 201992443,202003491,2019-02-03 22:11:51,">>201996858 wow! based! not like anyone can join a discord!!! BTFO!!!!!!!!!!!",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549231911 201992443,202003527,2019-02-03 22:12:10,">>202003109 >having to stretch that far to try and make the connection Nobody gave a fuck about the legacy of Ron Paul when Trump came around. The insanity of the left, illegals, and jobs brought Trump to the forefront. The only thing the freedom brigade brought was the gun issue, which was already in everyone's minds anyway.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549231930 201992443,202003587,2019-02-03 22:12:46,">>202003257 >vehicular homicide Have you even watched the video? Do you realize communists were pointing AR15's and threatening him moments before? He brakes, his car is hit, hit another time, he speeds up, he cannot see the cars in front of him and then once he hits that car it kills the retard woman. Other things that happened in Charlottesville White organizing, scaring the communists, and jewish media into giving an innocent man 420 years in prison.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549231966 201992443,202003626,2019-02-03 22:13:15,">>202003349 Why tear this one down when you can shape it for the common good?",,Anonymous,,,,Kekistani,1549231995 201992443,202003635,2019-02-03 22:13:22,">>202003349 Okay then they will form the exact thing we have today. Society is a great word",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232002 201992443,202003709,2019-02-03 22:14:08,">>202003241 see >>202003334 Do you think you're going to survive some civilizational collapse, war, whatever, come out of your bunker and be welcomed with open arms for your hard working attitude and wonderful skills by the elites?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232048 201992443,202003714,2019-02-03 22:14:09,">>201997243 YOU DONT KNOW WHAT A CORPORATION IS UNDER LAW YOU DUMB NIGGER? HAVE YOU STARTED A BUSINESS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT LIABILITY IS? AHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH HOW CAN U TRY TO BTFO ANCAPS BUT YOU DONT KNOW BASIC SHIT ?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549232049 201992443,202003719,2019-02-03 22:14:13,">>202003491 Anyone can make your voluntary society otherwise it isn't very voluntary & if you ban people you aren't following your principles lol.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232053 201992443,202003784,2019-02-03 22:15:00,">>202003527 >Nobody gave a fuck about the legacy of Ron Paul when Trump came around. The insanity of the left, illegals, and jobs brought Trump to the forefront. The only thing the freedom brigade brought was the gun issue, which was already in everyone's minds anyway. Cool story, bro. It sucks for you knowing that the only reason you aren't still sucking neoconservative cock is because we called you out on it.",,Anonymous,1548977284673.jpg,8tRorNONDKVT//jLnbrpwg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549232100 201992443,202003849,2019-02-03 22:15:47,">>202003587 >Have you even watched the video? >Do you realize communists were pointing AR15's and threatening him moments before? >He brakes, his car is hit, hit another time, he speeds up, he cannot see the cars in front of him and then once he hits that car it kills the retard woman. >Other things that happened in Charlottesville >White organizing, scaring the communists, and jewish media into giving an innocent man 420 years in prison.",,Anonymous,1523074679354.gif,1ut8FgoLWjE/pJXTjaH98w==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549232147 201992443,202003873,2019-02-03 22:16:08,">>202003635 Maybe they will. That would make me sad, but it's a distinct possibility. All we can do is fight and educate.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232168 201992443,202003969,2019-02-03 22:17:13,">>202003709 I don't care if I survive as long as my race and people do.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232233 201992443,202003999,2019-02-03 22:17:29,">>201998494 YEP. I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE 2012 AT LEAST. not going anywhere.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549232249 201992443,202004004,2019-02-03 22:17:33,">>202003167 You get the point, stop debating a technicality, though I am sorry for the misunderstanding. That law wouldn't apply to me because as I've said time and time again, THERE IS NO STATE TO FORCE ME TO. If it's in an agreement or business deal, I'll comply because I'm not an emotional faggot. Assuming we get taken over by the big bad Jewish boogeyman that rapes monkeys, that's fully my fault and I give them full freedom to consume me after I kill myself. Also, that means my time has come on this planet and my genetics have met an end. The most undignified thing a man can do is beg or steal. I don't live near niggers because I've earned it, you are the one who will have to prop up a state to force it to happen because you are too weak or stupid to do so based on merit. Again with the ""muh RACE"" shit, it's old and not an argument because no one likes you or wants to associate with you. It's different because you can't import shit on other's private land you retard. This isn't a utopia because we still allow double-digit subhumans like you to pollute our oxygen.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232253 201992443,202004055,2019-02-03 22:18:11,">>202003334 So be it, nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232291 201992443,202004065,2019-02-03 22:18:18,">>202003719 NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER FUCK OFF",,Anonymous,1549231182509.png,C2Qa9HASdXd6vbg7m8SL2g==,CA,Canada,1549232298 201992443,202004097,2019-02-03 22:18:45,">>202003784 >This level of denial You guys were a blip on the radar. Everyone was sucking neocon cock until Trump came along. Ron Paul was nothing more than small novelty at the time. Keep doing those mental gymnastics trying to stretch out a path on how you made a big difference.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232325 201992443,202004101,2019-02-03 22:18:48,">>202003873 So why don't we try and change our current society into a world where our people can survive, and build a future where we as a people can be great instead of simply choosing to eat a turd sandwich to avoid being shot for another day",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232328 201992443,202004126,2019-02-03 22:19:03,Anyone care to explain the amount of libertarian and ancap threads today?,,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549232343 201992443,202004172,2019-02-03 22:19:36,">>202003709 Oh my fucking God, do you really think that a corporation will fill it's own inhabitant's land with niggers? Are you that stupid?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232376 201992443,202004181,2019-02-03 22:19:42,">>201993158 >>201993495 >>201993835",,Anonymous,1548499858160.png,nrGQ/IksQ4ieFwOS7aF9CA==,AR,Argentina,1549232382 201992443,202004213,2019-02-03 22:19:59,">>202004055 Fine have fun living under another Z.O.G",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232399 201992443,202004255,2019-02-03 22:20:22,">>202003969 How noble, someone give this man a Purple Heart, he's a national hero.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232422 201992443,202004297,2019-02-03 22:20:43,">>202004181 Pinochet wasn't an ancap nerd.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232443 201992443,202004320,2019-02-03 22:21:01,">>201992443 Also thanks for making the general op , i need to freelancecuck so i can keep buying btc before the halving, i fucking hate every time there is ancap generals i have to freelancecuck , but better than be a disgusting statecuck attached to a state.",,Anonymous,1548788150793.jpg,J/uOowPwYBLTiKnkednz/g==,AR,Argentina,1549232461 201992443,202004384,2019-02-03 22:21:45,">>202004297 He reduced the state and thus pushed Minarchism.",,Anonymous,1525580748451.png,JnIb2WjV/FKXLlippE83xA==,AR,Argentina,1549232505 201992443,202004387,2019-02-03 22:21:45,">>202004101 Freedom of the individual is what we believe in, if you believe in something more collectivist and progressive then I don't think you'll find common ground with us :)",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232505 201992443,202004395,2019-02-03 22:21:54,">>202004255 I don't want any credit I don't care if I die, I want my people and my grandkids to live in a world where they are not under a Z.O.G and living in the same shithole we are now in.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232514 201992443,202004404,2019-02-03 22:21:57,">>201999690 >All forms of ""anarchism"" are 100% speculation and not even worth discussing. proceeds to speculate wildly on what happens post-state. pottery.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549232517 201992443,202004422,2019-02-03 22:22:03,">>202004097 >You guys were a blip on the radar. Everyone was sucking neocon cock until Trump came along. Ron Paul was nothing more than small novelty at the time. Keep doing those mental gymnastics trying to stretch out a path on how you made a big difference.",,Anonymous,1521294193563.gif,5hov4KprjQF97/DbWK8aww==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549232523 201992443,202004499,2019-02-03 22:23:00,">>202004297 Daily reminder that Venezuela was the number 1 country to take Chilean refugees from the Pinochet government.",,Anonymous,1494050419887.jpg,hfOl1kRdcRkpKVwed8M2Dg==,AR,Argentina,1549232580 201992443,202004504,2019-02-03 22:23:05,">>202004172 They're already working on filling the whole planet with niggers. If you come out of your bunker you better be a good little cuck boy and help build the new globo-homo-gayplex from the ashes while Pajeet oversees you.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232585 201992443,202004517,2019-02-03 22:23:15,">>202004387 There is no freedom of the individual if it is not enforced by the group, no one is special the thing that matters is your gene pool not yourself.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232595 201992443,202004587,2019-02-03 22:23:50,"Every single ancap thread is always >Ancap memeflags >Argentina bro >Estonia bro >A couple Americans >Bolivia On the other side >Costa Rica >Nazi and fascist memeflags >A few Americans",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232630 201992443,202004590,2019-02-03 22:23:52,">>201999793 >>202000921 >rewords your post slightly >adhominem insult >ANCAPS BTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549232632 201992443,202004691,2019-02-03 22:24:55,">>202004499 He was an authoritarian who literally through communists out of a helicopter you guys aren't even willing to violate the NAP and your other moral principles so shut the fuck up.",,Anonymous,zoomerhope.jpg,KrQJJg2SUnjrJlqfH2olNg==,CR,Costa Rica,1549232695 201992443,202004801,2019-02-03 22:26:10,">>202001046 >>202001502 LMFAO JF IS A LIBERTARIAN HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH HOW STUPID ARE YOU?!!?!?!?!?!?!?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549232770 201992443,202004810,2019-02-03 22:26:17,">>202004517 >There is no freedom of the individual if it is not enforced by the group As much freedom as possible, if you are trying to be pedantic. If not I'd love to hear your explanation on why a centralized statist paramilitary group is necessary for one's freedom?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232777 201992443,202004864,2019-02-03 22:26:58,">>202004422 >can't make an argument >reverts to smug chuckling pictures And this is why Ancaps will never actually accomplish anything.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232818 201992443,202004892,2019-02-03 22:27:13,">>202004504 Except I'm part of the elite, not a Jew perhaps, but that's not my problem lol.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232833 201992443,202004904,2019-02-03 22:27:21,">>202004691 Communism violates the NAP retard. Violent communists are a threat to society. >Taxation is theft >Theft is aggression >Advocating for taxation is aggression therefore violating the NAP",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232841 201992443,202004907,2019-02-03 22:27:24,">>202004810 Corporations have censored the internet, yet you want a society governed by corporations and businesses and yet you want us to believe you want freedom?",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232844 201992443,202004973,2019-02-03 22:28:09,">>202004907 Yes because then it's voluntary.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232889 201992443,202004993,2019-02-03 22:28:21,">>202004801 He's no ancap which is what, you faggots are. He advocates for a state which will always evolve further he is also an ethno nationalist so he is fine leading you lolberts to the alt right and natsoc.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232901 201992443,202005011,2019-02-03 22:28:33,">>202004892 How exactly are you part of the elite?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232913 201992443,202005078,2019-02-03 22:29:20,">>202004973 90% of conversations in this world are on the internet, and yet you are against freedoms what kind of ancap are you?",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549232960 201992443,202005114,2019-02-03 22:29:47,">>202004907 >Hurr voluntarily going on a website that you get censored is VIOLATION OF FREE SPEECH. >I DON'T BELIEVE IN THE FREEDOM OF DISSOCIATION",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549232987 201992443,202005185,2019-02-03 22:30:30,">>202004973 I love being censored and removed off the internet for doing things that go against my jewish masters wishes.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233030 201992443,202005245,2019-02-03 22:31:11,">>202003109 >>202003527 >>202003784 4CHAN BUILT RON PAUL, AND THEN BUILT TRUMP. 4CHAN HAS ALWAYS BEEN ANARCHY/LIBERTARIAN BOARD YOU DUMB NIGGERS HAHHAAHHAHAHAHAAH ACCEPT IT",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233071 201992443,202005305,2019-02-03 22:31:50,">>202005078 Also why do you always drag the conversations into web censorship. It's like it's the only thing your small brain can handle",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233110 201992443,202005369,2019-02-03 22:32:35,">>202005078 If a private company wants to pass shit, it's cool, there will be at least one that doesn't because most people, so the market, don't like that shit. >>202005011 I'm wealthy and don't rely on welfare like you niggers. My IQ is above average. I'm engaged, and have my own separate bank account so if the roastie tries to pull a fast one, I don't get cucked like Bezos.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233155 201992443,202005388,2019-02-03 22:32:52,">>202004864 >>And this is why Ancaps will never actually accomplish anything. >being this butthurt The problem is that you can't debate. You resort to these methods. It's long past time for you to have a taste of your own medicine. I see now why you faggots love this shit so much.",,Anonymous,14222254_660593027449069_538373925475020152_n.jpg,kZTz1bRS2wq9pbPoMJAryg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549233172 201992443,202005483,2019-02-03 22:33:52,">>201992704 Look here nigger. What one corporation, or more accurately a firm does is not representative of the entire free market. Anycompany can have an agenda. And if it is a bad one then the public will react and boycott that company. Look at Gilette, perfect example. Or have you not seen all of the start ups that try to be a youtube alternative. The free market is the most darwinistic force out there, but it takes time for it to react.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233232 201992443,202005544,2019-02-03 22:34:23,">>202004691 Communist that were openly speaking about killing 1 million people to complete their revolution. Communist that had given the state control of the food supply. Communist that were having weapons transfers from the soviet union. Those priniples are sacred but so is self defense and if a commie want to control every part of your life and turn you into a serf society has every right to self defense. Go look at commie terror during 1970 in latin america , it was so out of control that in our case in Argentina we had literally a sorcerer controlling death squads to stop the fuckers his same party created with out of control state worship.",,Anonymous,1543194634843.jpg,xuYsY+juV4HhIvhtMSbnKQ==,AR,Argentina,1549233263 201992443,202005582,2019-02-03 22:34:49,">>202004993 ahhaahahahahahahaha SO U AGREE HES NOT NATSOC YOU DUMB NIGGER HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH YOU LOSE SON. YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233289 201992443,202005589,2019-02-03 22:34:51,">>202005305 You don't want freedom, you want to suck your jewish leaders cock until your banned from the internet, I want a world where I don't have to live under what Israeli supporting corporation says what I can and cannot say. You don't want freedom you want to be a slave to the corporations that will do the exact things the governments are doing today you are a cuck.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233291 201992443,202005594,2019-02-03 22:34:55,">>202005388 Absolutely this. The costa Rica anon always used unrealistic scenarios like >What if 50 mexicans came to your property with ak47s how do defend it",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233295 201992443,202005627,2019-02-03 22:35:20,">>201992443 Hey can we try to meme the ancap balls back? There not the best representation of us, but at least it makes people aware of us and some of them look into anarcho capitalsim.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233320 201992443,202005680,2019-02-03 22:36:02,">>202004907 HES BACK ON CORPORATIONS.... LOL THESE DUMB STATIST CUNTS DON'T DEBATE IN GOOD FAITH. YOU ALREADY DESTROYED THE CORPORATIONS POINT AND 5 MINS LATER HES BACK ON IT. DISGUSTING NAZI PIG.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233362 201992443,202005695,2019-02-03 22:36:11,">>202005582 I didn't say he was a natsoc I was reffering to the Alt Right, which does in fact lead lolberts into the censored ideals of natsoc which is a more powerful grouping of ideals for what our people face.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233371 201992443,202005739,2019-02-03 22:36:43,">>202005589 ANARCHY = NO LEADERS GET IT THRU UR HEAD U STUPID WORTHLESS NIGGER LOVER.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233403 201992443,202005744,2019-02-03 22:36:46,"why don't you ancaps ever talk about ernie? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a14Z-w7VmxQ I can't believe he's been at it since the 90s and majorly responsible for promoting ron paul",,Anonymous,,,AU,Australia,1549233406 201992443,202005767,2019-02-03 22:37:02,">>202005680 you've never destroyed my corporation point you sperg you've only debated the law semantics, stop using caps lock you boomer.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233422 201992443,202005818,2019-02-03 22:37:34,">>202005594 Was I ever wrong? no because 50 mexicans can be replaced with whatever voluntary grouping of people want your shit and is willing to kill you to get it.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233454 201992443,202005871,2019-02-03 22:38:04,">>202005589 >le jooish corporations >le slave to corporation strawman >>202005767 You keep saying da joos and making unrealistic strawmans you have no points",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233484 201992443,202005890,2019-02-03 22:38:15,">>202005739 You do want leaders, you simply want corporations to be your leaders you low IQ leaf.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233495 201992443,202005917,2019-02-03 22:38:37,">>202005388 >Too butthurt to make argument >calls other guy butthurt >resorts to the ""I was only pretending to be retarded"" argument",,Anonymous,1402303736048.jpg,ThdIoLNYbL2mOG2Q6RFCVQ==,US,United States,1549233517 201992443,202005970,2019-02-03 22:39:15,">>202005871 Who runs your banks? Who runs your internet companies, media, etc it's all jews & yet you want them to take control of everything",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233555 201992443,202005981,2019-02-03 22:39:24,">>202005627 yes. its effective because its ALL strawmen and character attacks. Case in point: this entire thread. There's been 0 real criticism of ANCAP. its ALL adhoms, and ALL strawmen. Intelligent people see thru these tactics",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233564 201992443,202006002,2019-02-03 22:39:37,">>202005818 What if your neetsoc army takes your property with force? I sure do love strawmans guys. What if le neetsoc dictator puts a 90% tax on everything you can't do anything about. Strawmans are so good",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233577 201992443,202006022,2019-02-03 22:39:46,">>202005917 This is why they cannot comprehend how retarded they are.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233586 201992443,202006085,2019-02-03 22:40:29,">>202005970 >Who runs your banks 1. JP Morgan Chase - Jamie Dimon (Greek)[1] 2. Goldman Sachs - David Solomon (Jewish)[2] 3. Bank of America Merrill Lynch - Brian Moynihan (Irish)[3] 4. Morgan Stanley - James P. Gorman (Irish)[4] 5. Citigroup - Michael Corbat (Irish)[5] 6. Credit Suisse - Tidjane Thiam (French-Ivorian)[6] 7. Barclays Investment Bank - Jes Staley (English or French)[7] 8. Deutsche Bank - Christian Sewing (German & Irish)[8][9] 9. UBS - Sergio Ermotti (Swiss & Irish)[10][11] 10. RBC Capital Markets - Doug McGregor (Scottish)[12] [1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie_Dimon [2]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Solomon [3]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Moynihan [4]https://www.ancestry.ca/name-origin?surname=Gorman [5]https://www.ancestry.ca/name-origin?surname=Corbat [6]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidjane_Thiam [7]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.houseofnames.com/staley-family-crest [8]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Sewing [9]https://www.ancestry.ca/name-origin?surname=Sewing [10]https://www.ancestry.ca/name-origin?surname=Ermotti [11]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergio_Ermotti [12]https://www.ancestry.ca/name-origin?surname=McGregor WHO LOBBIES THE GOVERNMENT",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233629 201992443,202006106,2019-02-03 22:40:39,">>202005970 Then they're superior lol. Get shit on you dirty nigger.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233639 201992443,202006108,2019-02-03 22:40:43,">>202006002 Then they take my property with force. Didn't say it wouldn't occur I was saying a state will always form what I would do to try and defend it would be to organize my own state, build my own army and then try to attack them.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233643 201992443,202006143,2019-02-03 22:41:03,">>202005744 >why don't you ancaps ever talk about ernie? Good point.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549233663 201992443,202006144,2019-02-03 22:41:04,">>202005767 I'll use socratic method so you can BTFO yourself. Let's see how honest you are. whats a corporation anon?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233664 201992443,202006152,2019-02-03 22:41:07,"Ron Paul: ""Defying American Values"" Trump's Venezuela Fiasco ""convicted criminal Elliott Abrams should be disqualified from holding public office"" Bolton: ""We're Taking Venezuela's Oil""...""Pompeo, Bolton and Abrams are the Pirates of the Caribbean"" >>202003172",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549233667 201992443,202006157,2019-02-03 22:41:14,">>201992443 hi, if you think the Gadsden is appropriate for anarcho capitalism you are a fucking illiterate retard. that is all.",,Anonymous,1513151537929.jpg,jxAfNpemEZosQKlhE7qMxw==,US,United States,1549233674 201992443,202006199,2019-02-03 22:41:47,">>202006108 HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHHAAHHAAHAHAHA WOW I LOVE NATSOC NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANCAPS BTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM GONNA FRAME THIS POST",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233707 201992443,202006256,2019-02-03 22:42:24,">>202006108 >Then they take my property with force So you admit that there's nothing you could do. So why do you continue to make strawmans and countless what ifs?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233744 201992443,202006299,2019-02-03 22:42:50,">>202006085 Lol, let's talk about the federal reserve, let's talk about CNN, New york times, the disproportionate jews in the U.S government, let's talk about who runs your life. HR 672 ""To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"" -Voltaire.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233770 201992443,202006363,2019-02-03 22:43:43,">>202006199 >>202006108 HE JUST ADMITTED HE LOVES TAKING GOVERNMENT COCK IN HIS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE JUST WANTS THE COCK TO BE WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAH",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549233823 201992443,202006433,2019-02-03 22:44:38,">>202006144 A corporation is a grouping of people or company that is authorized to act as a single entity, since you advocate for a voluntary society a grouping of people can form a company or group together to form a corporation out of your voluntary laws.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233878 201992443,202006508,2019-02-03 22:45:22,">>202006256 I admit that a state will always form and might always makes right no matter what I want.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233922 201992443,202006554,2019-02-03 22:45:55,someone make new bread,,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549233955 201992443,202006570,2019-02-03 22:46:05,">>202006299 >Federal reserve Omg it's like central banking is the 5th plank of the communist manifesto plus there's no proof the Rothschilds own it >""To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"" >-Voltaire Voltaire didn't make that quote you clearly know nothing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Alfred_Strom >let's talk about CNN, New york times, the disproportionate jews in the U.S government, let's talk about who runs your life Jews have an average IQ of 108-115",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549233965 201992443,202006594,2019-02-03 22:46:24,"LADS WHY DO REDDIT PROMOTE THIS SHIT!!! now r/ireland who I suspect are mostly left wing americans are trying to claim berbers had been living in ireland for centuries........ >https://old.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/amsdlx/when_did_the_first_black_person_step_foot_in/ >https://old.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/amsdlx/when_did_the_first_black_person_step_foot_in/ >https://old.reddit.com/r/ireland/comments/amsdlx/when_did_the_first_black_person_step_foot_in/",,Anonymous,,,IE,Ireland,1549233984 201992443,202006600,2019-02-03 22:46:26,">>202006363 I won't like it, I simply would rather my people survive than me to have property",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549233986 201992443,202006641,2019-02-03 22:47:06,">>202005917 >>Too butthurt to make argument >>calls other guy butthurt >>resorts to the ""I was only pretending to be retarded"" argument >>202006022 Butthurt? see >>202004097 >Everyone was sucking neocon cock until Trump came along. You admit that you were sucking neocon cock. At least Paultards bit the dick they were mouth-raped with. You guzzled cum wholesale. What more can be said? You're enormous faggots. Neoconservatives defend Israel. Stormfaggotry = JIDF",,Anonymous,1502235614399.jpg,zmr4iCo4+dizOIZy+vAZhw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234026 201992443,202006649,2019-02-03 22:47:10,">Ron Paul - Trump Administration Backs Venezuela Regime Change >Ron Paul - Trump's Venezuela Fiasco ""convicted criminal Elliott Abrams should be disqualified from holding public office"" >Ron Paul - Bolton: ""We're Taking Venezuela's Oil""...""Pompeo, Bolton and Abrams are the Pirates of the Caribbean"" >>202003172",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549234030 201992443,202006665,2019-02-03 22:47:21,">>202006433 WHO GIVES THAT ""AUTHORIZATION"" AS YOU PUT IT? (OTHERS MIGHT CALL IT PROTECTION-- DOESNT MATTER ITS SEMANTICS I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN)",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549234041 201992443,202006722,2019-02-03 22:48:04,">>202006143 I haven't heard him mentioned at all by libertarians, molymeme gets all the attention and its a damn shame because ernie is a million times more practical and doing TONS to actually help preserve free speech instead of just talking about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqkqPz6w2UE",,Anonymous,,,AU,Australia,1549234084 201992443,202006730,2019-02-03 22:48:10,">>202006022 I can see why they're Ancaps now. When you've hit those levels of smug and fart huffing you can't possibly connect with other people.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549234090 201992443,202006778,2019-02-03 22:48:40,">>202006665 The state will, since you have a voluntary society it can simply be whatever law business they want.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234120 201992443,202006785,2019-02-03 22:48:45,">>202006730 see >>202006641",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234125 201992443,202006876,2019-02-03 22:49:51,">>202006730 MUH ""I CAN'T HANDLE BEING PROVEN WRONG SO I WON'T CHANGE MY MIND"" ARGUMENT",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549234191 201992443,202006914,2019-02-03 22:50:13,">>202006730 you say to them I want my people to survive, I don't care about my property, my life etc I only want my people to live and they will say they BTFO without arguing anything.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234213 201992443,202006921,2019-02-03 22:50:22,">>202006778 OK SO IS THERE A STATE IN ANCAPISTAN TO AUTHORIZE/PROTECT CORPORATIONS?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549234222 201992443,202006972,2019-02-03 22:50:45,">>202005981 Well there not even debating anarcho capitalism. They are just acting like we are shills for google, tencent, apple, etc and are just fine with them deplatforming everybody.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549234245 201992443,202007065,2019-02-03 22:51:55,">>202006921 I didn't say there would be a state, I said there would be a private law businesses that will authorize it, and since it is a voluntary society there will be no need for authorization anyway so corporations will simply be groupings of people acting as an entity.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234315 201992443,202007122,2019-02-03 22:52:32,"lazy fags NEW BREAD >>202007062 >>202007062 >>202007062 >>202007062",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234352 201992443,202007175,2019-02-03 22:53:12,LOL neocohens are all dying,,Anonymous,,,,Confederate,1549234392 201992443,202007193,2019-02-03 22:53:25,">>202007122 The fucking super bowl is going to be on!!!",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234405 201992443,202007197,2019-02-03 22:53:30,">>202004973 read this you ancaps have already said your fine with censorship. >>202006972",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234410 201992443,202007265,2019-02-03 22:54:10,">>202006972 >They are just acting like we are shills for google, tencent, apple, etc and are just fine with them deplatforming everybody. Ancaps are the anti-corporate position, but you're too retarded to see that.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234450 201992443,202007275,2019-02-03 22:54:19,">>202006641 We, as in we the country. Not we as in every single individual. I know Ancaps have trouble understanding there can be groups and individuals in it at the same time. Paultards were a fad like Jill Stein was. They were a safe release valve without any strength behind it. Stick your head in the sand for some lower taxes and fight against abortion in your marginalized political movement. He was the Jill Stein of the Republican party.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549234459 201992443,202007276,2019-02-03 22:54:20,">>202006108 So your saying because you think a state will always form that you may as well go full 88 because of that? Do you need to go reread the 25 points to understand what kind of grip that system would have on you? I’d assume that anybody with your conclusion would say minarchy is okay if governments are inevitable, but why go to the second largest and second most restrictive system possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549234460 201992443,202007343,2019-02-03 22:55:03,">>202007197 >read this you ancaps have already said your fine with censorship. see >>202007265 Corporations do not exist in anarchy.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234503 201992443,202007404,2019-02-03 22:55:42,">>202007275 >We, as in we the country. Not we as in every single individual. Nice try, fgt. Wipe the neocon jizz from your chin.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234542 201992443,202007544,2019-02-03 22:57:11,">>202007276 I think a state will always form because people group together, and will always be willing to redistribute other peoples wealth. Why would I support the 88? I wouldn't like being restricted but I'd rather my people survive and not be exterminated.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234631 201992443,202007632,2019-02-03 22:58:09,">>202007343 Why wouldn't they exist they are simply grouping of people to form an entity, yes currently they are authorized by a state but under your ancap system they will voluntarily form and you cannot stop them without violating your principles and the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234689 201992443,202007737,2019-02-03 22:59:15,">>202007632 >Why wouldn't they exist they are simply grouping of people to form an entity, yes currently they are authorized by a state but under your ancap system they will voluntarily form and you cannot stop them without violating your principles and the NAP. Corporations are state-granted privileges of fictitious corporate personhood and limited liability. They can't exist without a state.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234755 201992443,202007738,2019-02-03 22:59:17,>>202007343,,Anonymous,it'svoluntary.jpg,k2WXQniI0VfY4z85y2v5Rw==,CR,Costa Rica,1549234757 201992443,202007772,2019-02-03 22:59:35,>>202006157,,Anonymous,don't tread on son.jpg,rewIMWdxMe2SaG5wGduVAQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234775 201992443,202007792,2019-02-03 22:59:48,">>202007738 My mistaken Ancap friend will understand his mistake later. I am not so inclined.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234788 201992443,202007864,2019-02-03 23:00:41,">>202007792 lol okay ancap this is exactly why your society cannot form, you cannot even agree on the basics.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234841 201992443,202007928,2019-02-03 23:01:29,">>202007864 >lol okay ancap this is exactly why your society cannot form, you cannot even agree on the basics. He will learn to adapt. It is a minor point. We agree on the important stuff.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234889 201992443,202008007,2019-02-03 23:02:21,">>202007737 But in your society there will be voluntary private courts that can do what they want.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234941 201992443,202008068,2019-02-03 23:03:00,">>202007928 hahahahahah, this is why so many ancaps become natsoc and ansyn thank's for contributing to our cause.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549234980 201992443,202008079,2019-02-03 23:03:05,">>202008007 >But in your society there will be voluntary private courts that can do what they want. >that can do what they want You mean like the 9th Circuit?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234985 201992443,202008101,2019-02-03 23:03:23,">>202008068 >hahahahahah, this is why so many ancaps become natsoc and ansyn thank's for contributing to our cause. >being this gay",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235003 201992443,202008135,2019-02-03 23:03:51,">>202008007 Have you ever read a book that gave a comprehensive explanation of anarcho-capitalism or are you just going off of memes?",,Anonymous,random ancap book #2892423.png,C1D0wwilfm16o6QmQF+6Bg==,US,United States,1549235031 201992443,202008182,2019-02-03 23:04:25,">>202007404 >has nuance pointed out to him >can't process it So much for that high Ancap IQ.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235065 201992443,202008198,2019-02-03 23:04:29,">>202008079 Yes just like our current society, your corporations will exist.",,Anonymous,hailskyking.jpg,bTikztMNTC5qn5cg5w4AVQ==,CR,Costa Rica,1549235069 201992443,202008210,2019-02-03 23:04:36,">> >>202008135 He claims to be ""former libertarian"" but he doesn't know much",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235076 201992443,202008245,2019-02-03 23:05:11,">>202007792 I repent AnCap-sama.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235111 201992443,202008255,2019-02-03 23:05:19,">>202008135 Yeah, I was once an ancap now as I've gotten older I see how retarded it is. I've gone down the same route as Chris Cantwell.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549235119 201992443,202008379,2019-02-03 23:06:50,">>202007275 ghahahahahaha RON PAULERS HAVENT GONE ANYWHERE SON. WHEN YOU WAKE UP TO FREEDOM, YOU DON'T GO BACK TO SLEEP. IDIOT.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549235210 201992443,202008460,2019-02-03 23:07:57,">>202008255 But you can't string together coherent arguments plus you seem to lack some understanding of how it works. It looks like you fell for the /pol/ bandwagon and became neetsoc because everyone else around You is here",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235277 201992443,202008508,2019-02-03 23:08:28,">>202008198 >Yes just like our current society, your corporations will exist. >needs state for state privileges that define a corporation kys",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235308 201992443,202008565,2019-02-03 23:09:11,">>202008255 Congratulations, you somehow blue-pilled yourself back into believing that most whites are worth saving, they're not.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235351 201992443,202008599,2019-02-03 23:09:31,">>202008460 Honestly half your peoples arguments have been >kys >stormfag >btfo etc without arguing anything that they haven't heard in a mises textbook >>202008508 proving my point.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549235371 201992443,202008619,2019-02-03 23:09:49,">>202008599 >proving my point >being this retarded",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235389 201992443,202008677,2019-02-03 23:10:35,">>202008460 Also I haven't fallen for anything I've looked into the censored books, ideas, and history that (((they))) don't want me to see because it will save my people.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549235435 201992443,202008756,2019-02-03 23:11:30,">>202008565 I didn't say most whites are worth saving the day of the rope will fix what is needed, however I want my people to survive extinction and being invaded by niggers and spics because the jews want it to be so.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549235490 201992443,202008763,2019-02-03 23:11:32,">>202008677 So conspiracy theories is why you radically changed your political views? Great",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235492 201992443,202008809,2019-02-03 23:12:02,">>202008619 Once again proving my point that your arguments are 3rd grade level ad hominem attacks.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549235522 201992443,202008845,2019-02-03 23:12:29,">>202008599 EL OH EL JUST ADMIT YOU HAVE AN EGO THAT CAN'T ACCEPT BEING PROVEN WRONG. FOR YOU THIS IS ABOUT SIDES, FOR US THIS IS ABOUT IDEAS. DUMB NIGGER SPIC. STAY IN UR SHITHOLE COUNTRY AND HIDE LIKE BITCH. YOU'RE A STATIST KEK AND YOU LOVE GETTING RAPED BY THE GOVERNMENT. YOU ADMITTED AS MUCH ALREADY.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549235549 201992443,202008879,2019-02-03 23:12:53,">>202008763 Sadly, I wish it was a conspiracy theory and I could be an ancap like you guys not caring about my peoples future.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549235573 201992443,202008899,2019-02-03 23:13:10,">>202008845 Get off the internet you caps lock boomer.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549235590 202007062,202007062,2019-02-03 22:51:52,"Ancaps, Libertarians and Minarchists get in here GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",/AC/ AnCap General - Angry spic edition,Anonymous,114902375340976345.jpg,2yLt5u9CVGRz4/x6mw/7ww==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234312 202007062,202007099,2019-02-03 22:52:15,">>202007062 df",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549234335 202007062,202007145,2019-02-03 22:52:50,Based general,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549234370 202007062,202007226,2019-02-03 22:53:47,THREADLY REMINDER,,Anonymous,1496071009211.png,h3Taat7ccbmFJG8yq6rLIQ==,US,United States,1549234427 202007062,202007462,2019-02-03 22:56:17,">>202007062 Why I'm Still Optimistic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a14Z-w7VmxQ",,Anonymous,,,AU,Australia,1549234577 202007062,202007525,2019-02-03 22:56:59,">>202007226 >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (1993; 2006 2nd edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economics%20and%20Ethics%20of%20Private%20Property%20Studies%20in%20Political%20Economy%20and%20Philosophy_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline (2015) https://mises.org/system/tdf/A%20Short%20History%20of%20Man%20%E2%80%94%20Progress%20and%20Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document >Democracy—The God That Failed (2001) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (1988; 2010 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document >From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy (2014) https://mises.org/system/tdf/From%20Aristocracy%20to%20Monarchy%20to%20Democracy_Hoppe_Text%202014.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Myth of National Defense: Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production (2003) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Myth%20of%20National%20Defense%2C%20The%20Essays%20on%20the%20Theory%20and%20History%20of%20Security%20Production_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Private Production of Defense (1998; 2006 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Private%20Production%20of%20Defense_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Economic Science and the Austrian Method (1995) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economic%20Science%20and%20the%20Austrian%20Method_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >What Must Be Done (2009) https://mises.org/system/tdf/What%20Must%20Be%20Done_7.pdf?file=1&type=document",,Anonymous,ancap_freedoms_score_one.jpg,xCBGGhY6+pmFnCRSCcb5fg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234619 202007062,202007569,2019-02-03 22:57:29,">>202007062 STOP FUCKING INTERFERING NEOCON CUNTS!"" >Ron Paul - Trump's Venezuela Fiasco ""convicted criminal Elliott Abrams should be disqualified from holding public office"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4tYEKsa8lA >Ron Paul - Bolton: ""We're Taking Venezuela's Oil""...""Pompeo, Bolton and Abrams are the Pirates of the Caribbean"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTE0SQA2jU8 >Ron Paul interview - ""Defying American Values"" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCESJ5JcJXc >>202003172",,Anonymous,Abrams_Pompeo_Bolton03.jpg,zCJUwzg8viDhmqYCGZzLog==,,Gadsden,1549234649 202007062,202007594,2019-02-03 22:57:39,">>202007062 Sir, I think you have some kind of pee stain on your monocle.",,Anonymous,,,RU,Russian Federation,1549234659 202007062,202007670,2019-02-03 22:58:28,">>202007265 Aside from legal protections and exemptions. What is exactly wrong with a corporation. If you get rid of the special privileges aren’t they just a company with about 500 different owners?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549234708 202007062,202007866,2019-02-03 23:00:41,">>202007594 tis a tint m'lord",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234841 202007062,202007875,2019-02-03 23:00:51,">>202007670 >What is exactly wrong with a corporation. If you get rid of the special privileges aren’t they just a company with about 500 different owners? The executives and shareholders need to be liable for the damages they cause.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549234851 202007062,202008017,2019-02-03 23:02:25,">>202007525 May as well put this here",,Anonymous,28521bd12b231794f5e470c568f5d228b7d6aa1051aa1b608bfa39e84903cc65.jpg,lQf97SMk6d9hUmGBTyeTgw==,US,United States,1549234945 202007062,202008199,2019-02-03 23:04:30,">>202007875 As I said. “Without any special legal protections that they get” what is wrong with them.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235070 202007062,202008264,2019-02-03 23:05:24,">>202008017 cheers",,Anonymous,b70038e363bfa2158fd3ef503.jpg,eb4PnM5jQNlWkUSSelWevQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235124 202007062,202008272,2019-02-03 23:05:27,">>202008017 >May as well put this here",,Anonymous,1522708951178.gif,psK+Tg7ydJXZ8wawzjRDMA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235127 202007062,202008414,2019-02-03 23:07:23,">>202008199 >As I said. “Without any special legal protections that they get” what is wrong with them. What defines a corporation is the special legal protections that it gets. It is no longer a corporation without them. If we agree on this point, we can grant the rest and have an acutal conversation.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235243 202007062,202008543,2019-02-03 23:08:52,"Thanks. Also, all of Rothbard's early work. Before he became a statist.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235332 202007062,202008567,2019-02-03 23:09:14,">>202008414 I don’t agree with that point. Because what I was taught is that a corporation is a firm where ownership can be bought and sold in the form of shares.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235354 202007062,202008588,2019-02-03 23:09:28,What happened to /lrg/,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235368 202007062,202008593,2019-02-03 23:09:29,">>202008543 Why did he become a statist",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235369 202007062,202008659,2019-02-03 23:10:19,">>202008588 Discord mods killed the discord plus it just died. If you want an Ancap board you should come to /liberty/ on 8ch",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235419 202007062,202008673,2019-02-03 23:10:30,">>202008567 >Because what I was taught is that a corporation is a firm where ownership can be bought and sold in the form of shares. Sauce?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235430 202007062,202008700,2019-02-03 23:10:51,">>202008199 SPECIAL PROTECTION FROM LIABILITY GRANTED FROM THE GOVERNMENT IS THE ONLY DISTINCTION BETWEEN NON-INCORPORATED BUSINESS AND INCORPORATED. AND ITS A BIG DISTINCTION.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549235451 202007062,202008749,2019-02-03 23:11:26,">>202008593 >Why did he become a statist He technically didn't, but he did move toward right-wing retard after the split with the new left.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235486 202007062,202008757,2019-02-03 23:11:30,">>202007062 Ancap is incomplete Propertarianism is basically ancap expanded",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549235490 202007062,202008832,2019-02-03 23:12:17,">>202008673 It was in my Introductory Buisnesses textbook. I sold it back to the school after my class ended because it sucked. Can you link me or post a better definition?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235537 202007062,202008836,2019-02-03 23:12:24,">>202008659 >If you want an Ancap board you should come to /liberty/ on 8ch >8ch https://c4ss.org/content/51110 no thanks",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235544 202007062,202008927,2019-02-03 23:13:34,">>202008832 https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/incorporate.asp I can do better. Just give me some time.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235614 202007062,202008935,2019-02-03 23:13:38,">>202008757 I'VE HEARD ABOUT THIS. WHAT IS NEW ABOUT PROPERTARIANISM? GIVE ME A QUICK RUNDOWN",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549235618 202007062,202009052,2019-02-03 23:15:00,">>202008836 /liberty/ hates /pol/tards",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235700 202007062,202009084,2019-02-03 23:15:20,">>202008935 Basically, the definition of property is expanded to ""everything you want to defend"", as an average IQ of the country, and lying is considered another form of thief.",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549235720 202007062,202009090,2019-02-03 23:15:26,">>202007062 these are based threads, keep em comin",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235726 202007062,202009123,2019-02-03 23:15:51,">>202008935 it isn't anything that adds onto Ancap, it's just the delineation of what would happen (condominiums, the formation of homogeneous neighborhoods enforced contractually, etc.)",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549235751 202007062,202009125,2019-02-03 23:15:52,">>202008935 You can check Curt Doolittle",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549235752 202007062,202009160,2019-02-03 23:16:18,">>202007062 AHEM... MAY I HAVE EHERYONES ATTENTION! EVERYONE in this thread is a mem flag posting jew and or neocon who likes taking it up the ass from corporations. Capitislim and communism are two sides of the same jewish coin.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549235778 202007062,202009178,2019-02-03 23:16:30,">>202009084 BASICALLY INCLUDES YOUR CHILDREN AND FUTURE STATES OF THE PLANET? COVERS GENETIC MODIFICATION BECAUSE THEY WILL OUTCOMPETE YOUR CHILDREN?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549235790 202007062,202009223,2019-02-03 23:17:09,">>202009160 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL WE ALREADY BTFO'D CORPORATIONS LAST THREAD NIGGER, TRY AND KEEP UP.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549235829 202007062,202009435,2019-02-03 23:19:49,">>202009160 Ignore this faggot. He is definitely retarded.",,Anonymous,1523065542918.gif,jVwueRNQqNOdGuAlOs/Nhg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549235989 202007062,202009456,2019-02-03 23:20:04,">>202009160 nice try, Jewish tranny goblin Commie faggot, but we're onto your d&c tactics. now go take your HRT >inb4 hue",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549236004 202007062,202009474,2019-02-03 23:20:24,">>202009160 shut up statist nigger, what the hell else do you suppose we do",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549236024 202007062,202009538,2019-02-03 23:21:05,">>202009160 >mem flag >epic Hitler quote",,Anonymous,1549231182509.png,C2Qa9HASdXd6vbg7m8SL2g==,CA,Canada,1549236065 202007062,202009571,2019-02-03 23:21:31,">>202008927 Thanks bro. I don’t know how I got mixed up.",,Anonymous,4A0A346F-3E17-4725-8B19-4B14B4B7F7CA.png,SWQLp+AIHGzHy3LYzD7gMA==,US,United States,1549236091 202007062,202009645,2019-02-03 23:22:25,,,Anonymous,1546296815400.jpg,YunL9Z5kIRb2wRFXy2zGmw==,CA,Canada,1549236145 202007062,202009787,2019-02-03 23:24:02,">>202009645 >He doesn't know most libertarians disagree with rothbards position on children",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236242 202007062,202009825,2019-02-03 23:24:26,">>202007062 >ancap a funny way of spelling kike",,Anonymous,,,,Pirate,1549236266 202007062,202009845,2019-02-03 23:24:43,">>202009787 So who's going to stop them from selling children?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236283 202007062,202009889,2019-02-03 23:25:13,">>202009645 U CAN ALREADY DO THIS... DUHHHH WHAT IS ""ADOPTION""? YOU PAY THE GOVT FOR A CHILD. LMFAO HOW UNEDUCATED AND STUPID ARE YOU????",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236313 202007062,202009963,2019-02-03 23:26:06,">>202009160 we only accept Dogecoin in my ethnostate",,Anonymous,Dogecoin-Cryptocurrency-Gambling.jpg,ZKmYBXDoL8WVVZgzXJPTyQ==,US,United States,1549236366 202007062,202009964,2019-02-03 23:26:08,">>202009645 misinterpretation of Rothbard. he meant the possession of the child's custody, not the possession of the child itself. also, there already is a ""child market"" insofar as there is adoption, the only difference there is that the price isn't directly monetary, it's by proving your stability as a child raiser. in a free market society, it could very well be the same.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549236368 202007062,202009997,2019-02-03 23:26:30,">>202009825 rid yourself of the memeflag, tranny commie Jew.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549236390 202007062,202010022,2019-02-03 23:26:49,">>202009889 Are pedophilic relationships OK if they consent? If not, who will stop them?",,Anonymous,1479944429545.png,GTS0Sk9q3sAdQKtW71E+Vw==,CA,Canada,1549236409 202007062,202010045,2019-02-03 23:27:04,">>202009963 In ancapistan I'd create a currency called cryptoshekels desu",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236424 202007062,202010098,2019-02-03 23:27:41,">>202010022 Omg how do the police stop them? Do they install cameras in your house?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236461 202007062,202010099,2019-02-03 23:27:42,">>202010045 but it wont have the doge on it!",,Anonymous,1531868171881.jpg,U/oOVqMrzx09HHnAEx6sgw==,US,United States,1549236462 202007062,202010127,2019-02-03 23:28:05,">>202010022 1. the parents, you mongoloid nigger. 2. whoever is interested in the safety of children, aka everyone who isn't a pedophile",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549236485 202007062,202010211,2019-02-03 23:29:05,">>202009997 a kike projecting once again they never change",,Anonymous,,,,Pirate,1549236545 202007062,202010218,2019-02-03 23:29:09,">>202009645 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Tann ""Tann's crimes were accomplished with the aid of Memphis Family Court Judge Camille Kelley, who used her position of authority to sanction Tann's tactics and activities. Tann would identify children as being from homes which could not provide for their care, and Kelley would push the matter through her dockets. Kelley also severed custody of divorced mothers, placing the children with Tann, who then arranged for adoption of the children into ""homes better able to provide for the children's care."" However, many of the children were placed into homes where they were used as child labor on farms, or with abusive families."" Rothbard was trying to stop shit like what is stated above. That doesn't even begin to scratch the surface on how fucked up the adoption system is and how the state perpetuates the human trafficking market by giving gangs and cartels entire markets in drug dealing through which they have built smuggling empires to make such horrible crimes possible.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549236549 202007062,202010285,2019-02-03 23:29:51,">>202010098 Not an answer. >>202010127 Not an answer. Are these relationships okay in ancap land? Breaking into someones house and trying to break up a consensual relationship would violate the NAP and would allow the pedo to blow your face off",,Anonymous,1480286636140.jpg,F7ix0WX2M5nCymo/Rkx4Vg==,CA,Canada,1549236591 202007062,202010391,2019-02-03 23:31:03,">>202010022 WOW EASY ON THE PROJECTION THERE BUDDY... WHY DO FAGS FILL THESE THREADS AND TALK ABOUT FUCKING CHILDREN? ITS DISGUSTING. IN FACT ADOPTED AND FOSTER KIDS ARE SOME OF THE BIGGEST VICTIMS OF CHILD ABUSE. I WONDER IF ITS BECAUSE THE GOVT ISNT A GOOD JUDGE OF CHARACTER WHEN THEY DECIDE WHO GETS TO ADOPT?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236663 202007062,202010393,2019-02-03 23:31:05,should ancap threads be on /biz/?,,Anonymous,1529007388366.gif,GUMASfSbhRTpBzgTjrUM/w==,US,United States,1549236665 202007062,202010435,2019-02-03 23:31:37,">>202010022 >Are pedophilic relationships OK if they consent? >muh child ""consent"" strawman Children are not capable of consent. Only LARPing JIDF stormfaggots say otherwise.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549236697 202007062,202010450,2019-02-03 23:31:46,">>202010393 Is /biz/ mostly libertarian? They really love crypto",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236706 202007062,202010509,2019-02-03 23:32:31,">>202010285 LOL YOU MUST BE JEWISH CUZ YOU'RE STARTING THE STORY IN THE MIDDLE. IF THE PEDO IS ABUSING THE CHILD, HES BREAKING THE NAP, AND NOW IS OPEN TO INTERVENTION. NICE TRY WITH THE JEWISH TRICKS, SHLOMO.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236751 202007062,202010536,2019-02-03 23:32:49,">>202010285 Further explain. Who's child would the pedo be exploiting? Their own? If so it's still aggression because a child is not capable of consent",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236769 202007062,202010574,2019-02-03 23:33:20,">>202010285 children cannot give consent, he'd be violating ethics and it's ok to put him down",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549236800 202007062,202010592,2019-02-03 23:33:35,">>202010285 ACTUALLY YES, YOU'RE 100% JEWISH CONSIDERING YOU'RE BOTH: -STARTING STORY IN THE MIDDLE -PROJECTING YOUR DESIRE TO ABUSE CHILDREN ONTO YOUR IDEOLOGICAL ENEMIES",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549236815 202007062,202010607,2019-02-03 23:33:43,">>202010393 >should ancap threads be on /biz/? Well, the ""an"" in ""ancap"" makes it political.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549236823 202007062,202010616,2019-02-03 23:33:55,">>202010211 rid yourself of the meme flag cuckold",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549236835 202007062,202010625,2019-02-03 23:34:02,">>202007062 >Withur We - Matthew Alexander search for it . pdf",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549236842 202007062,202010662,2019-02-03 23:34:34,">>202010450 i think /biz/ is already ancap infested. the only crime there seems to be destitution",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549236874 202007062,202010681,2019-02-03 23:34:47,">>202010393 >should ancap threads be on /biz/? they should be everywhere",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549236887 202007062,202010698,2019-02-03 23:35:00,">>202010616 they never stop",,Anonymous,,,,Pirate,1549236900 202007062,202010780,2019-02-03 23:35:57,Let's go ancap anime,,Anonymous,FB_IMG_1549069868541.jpg,Uq49X6btu92R07pTnhop7g==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549236957 202007062,202010799,2019-02-03 23:36:13,">>202010450 Not an argument or rebbutal >>202010509 Strawman non-argument >>202010536 A child sold to him by a family who can't afford to raise it. >If so it's still aggression because a child is not capable of consent Says who? a 10 year old can fully understand the concepts of consent. Regardless it's not up to you to decide to regulate the age at which they can or can not. You fail to see that you are trying to arbitrarily enforce a law even though it doesn't interfere with the NAP. Two consenting parties having relations is totally fine in Ancapistan.",,Anonymous,1488407338750.png,taQK5z3Uif+3anjy+Keh3g==,CA,Canada,1549236973 202007062,202010808,2019-02-03 23:36:20,">>202010099 https://dogecoin.com/ Dogecoin already exists.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549236980 202007062,202010880,2019-02-03 23:37:15,>>202010780,,Anonymous,1548199289395.jpg,gzxWEjwSak9gh1ArdvLAig==,CA,Canada,1549237035 202007062,202010912,2019-02-03 23:37:41,">>202010799 >>202010592 just link this post in response. hes a jew pedo shill. or >hide all posts by this id",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549237061 202007062,202010915,2019-02-03 23:37:44,">>202010799 >Says who? a 10 year old can fully understand the concepts of consent. Regardless it's not up to you to decide to regulate the age at which they can or can not. Stormfaggots actually believe this.",,Anonymous,1521594416008.gif,z1SKhxScbfhICKJSVl5RPg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549237064 202007062,202010937,2019-02-03 23:38:01,">>202010808 oh lawdy",,Anonymous,threeDogers.png,EnTDnAR2VPgWARNnMOLQfQ==,US,United States,1549237081 202007062,202011063,2019-02-03 23:39:46,">>202010912 >>202010915 Non-arguments Hopefully everyone with room temperature and above IQ who reads this thread realizes this stupid fucking ideology is a Jewish meme. Every mainstream figure pushing Libertarianism is either Jewish or working for Jewish interests.",,Anonymous,1488490484557.png,HQ7NoCDAea/7k8mYO7+a6w==,CA,Canada,1549237186 202007062,202011070,2019-02-03 23:39:51,">>202010915 i thought all sex was rape",,Anonymous,1528608690231.png,O/pFA2KlY/ivgHM/kL9m1w==,US,United States,1549237191 202007062,202011103,2019-02-03 23:40:15,">>202010915 >>202010912 lmfao yea look hes got all the molyneux pics queued up.. he got BTFO on his first post, but has like 5 more pics so he needs to keep going ahahahahahahahah",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549237215 202007062,202011137,2019-02-03 23:40:50,">>202010799 >Says who? a 10 year old can fully understand the concepts of consent Fucking pedo. >You fail to see that you are trying to arbitrarily enforce a law even though it doesn't interfere with the NAP. Aggression is a violation of the NAP. A child cannot understand consent. It's a violation",,Anonymous,1549229847778.jpg,OgYZZ/7LuR/zYgK/nrOYfg==,CA,Canada,1549237250 202007062,202011177,2019-02-03 23:41:29,">>202011063 >Non-arguments >Hopefully everyone with room temperature and above IQ who reads this thread realizes this stupid fucking ideology is a Jewish meme. >Every mainstream figure pushing Libertarianism is either Jewish or working for Jewish interests. wew lad",,Anonymous,Stormfags_are_JIDF_shills.png,rQL3lTSiU9ak9zI7etOZBQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549237289 202007062,202011281,2019-02-03 23:42:38,">>202011063 ok its bait. thank u based ancap anon. you are playing devils advocate. I respect that.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549237358 202007062,202011287,2019-02-03 23:42:41,">>202011063 >da joos dismissed as a non argument.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549237361 202007062,202011300,2019-02-03 23:42:50,">>202011137 >A child cannot understand consent Under what statute in Libertarian ideology does it state a 10 year old doesn't understand consent? Keep dodging the questions lolbertarians, i'm waiting",,Anonymous,1549228765010.jpg,sT4HhIcH/lc07ghfqDXyKg==,CA,Canada,1549237370 202007062,202011474,2019-02-03 23:44:52,">>202011063 lol you ignored every single point that refuted your premise, kys",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549237492 202007062,202011519,2019-02-03 23:45:32,">>202011300 >libertarian >statute pick one",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549237532 202007062,202011527,2019-02-03 23:45:43,">>202011300 Based on psychology moron. Teens and children don't have fully developed pre frontal cortex especially children who can not consent because they cannot think of any consequences nor do they know what they are consenting too",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549237543 202007062,202011618,2019-02-03 23:46:52,">>202011527 so blacks cant consent?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549237612 202007062,202011619,2019-02-03 23:46:51,">>202011300 >Under what statute in Libertarian ideology does it state a 10 year old doesn't understand consent? >Keep dodging the questions lolbertarians, i'm waiting http://praxeology.net/libertariannation/a/f43l2.html ""The fact that the guardian-ward relationship depends on diminished capacity has an important implication for children's rights. Diminished capacity is a matter of degree; a 13-year-old's capacity for rational decision-making is not as impaired as a 4-year-old's, which in turn is not as impaired as a newborn's. So it is unrealistic to have an absolute cut-off age, below which a child is completely under his guardian's authority (and unable to engage in any binding financial transactions, from buying a house to buying a pack of gum) and above which he is suddenly a fully responsible agent. The older a child is, the stronger the presumption becomes that a child's expressed will is an accurate reflection of the will he would have if unimpaired. So, for example, a teenager's desire to have an ear pierced has to be given more weight than a toddler's desire to have an ear pierced; and a rational capacity that is not up to giving informed consent in the case of purchasing a house may be quite up to the task of purchasing gum. These sorts of grey areas could probably be handled better by evolving court precedents than by statutory fiat.""",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549237611 202007062,202011712,2019-02-03 23:48:13,">>202007062 Important additions to this reading list: >Machinery of Freedom - David Friedman http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf >Anatomy of The State - Murray N. Rothbard https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf >Democracy: The God That Failed - Hans Hermann Hoppe https://b-ok.cc/dl/945763/e8754c >Human Action - Ludwig Von Mises https://b-ok.cc/dl/720452/038d8f",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549237693 202007062,202011719,2019-02-03 23:48:19,">>202011618 Collectivist strawman lol",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549237699 202007062,202011950,2019-02-03 23:50:58,">>202011719 you just collectivized preteenie cuties so i might as well mention other groups with said mental disabilities",,Anonymous,1528604572203.jpg,wjDSfB3XAjqSyPvoE2rjLw==,US,United States,1549237858 202007062,202012023,2019-02-03 23:51:50,">>202011527 >>202011619 Ah, interesting .. 10 year olds don't understand consequences. There are potential consequences in everything, from riding a bike to walking on the sidewalk. Using your own beliefs, children should be locked away in a room with a helmet on 24/7 because they have ZERO understanding of consequences and must wait until their pre frontal cortex is fully developed",,Anonymous,1548721531600.png,0KIiWMCPI/wrK3ksjxkS+A==,CA,Canada,1549237910 202007062,202012144,2019-02-03 23:53:24,">>202012023 >Using your own beliefs, children should be locked away in a room with a helmet on 24/7 because they have ZERO understanding of consequences and must wait until their pre frontal cortex is fully developed Now you're just shitposting read >>202011619 again ""So, for example, a teenager's desire to have an ear pierced has to be given more weight than a toddler's desire to have an ear pierced; and a rational capacity that is not up to giving informed consent in the case of purchasing a house may be quite up to the task of purchasing gum.""",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549238004 202007062,202012253,2019-02-03 23:55:06,">>202012023 Jesus fucking Christ, mnn. Read the post you're responding to. He literally said in the quote ""Diminished capacity is a matter of degree"". How the fuck do you get ""children should be locked away in a room with a helmet on 24/7 because they have ZERO understanding of consequences"" from that?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549238106 202007062,202012257,2019-02-03 23:55:07,">>202011950 Well I was using averages plus as an adult no matter what race 99% of people will be able to consent to something and they are able to think about the consequences.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549238107 202007062,202013128,2019-02-04 00:06:08,bump,,Anonymous,Nazis_Are_JIDF_Shills.png,gAJ9OIZ/IckgolGcMTyFHg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549238768 202007062,202013499,2019-02-04 00:10:30,bump,,Anonymous,1522354864732.jpg,iQ8gOCw4V1uha3i5KMSBXw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549239030 202007062,202013591,2019-02-04 00:11:24,Bumpitido I have an OC,,Anonymous,2861ED90-BE8D-45B3-AB5B-AB0279467D67.png,aO52lmq2pieBFIeCqJ8GXg==,US,United States,1549239084 202007062,202013633,2019-02-04 00:12:00,">>202013591 Based",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549239120 202007062,202013758,2019-02-04 00:13:32,">>202013128 Shit tier image. I'd side with a white nationalist over an ancom any day.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549239212 202007062,202013965,2019-02-04 00:15:43,">>202013758 Same. Ancoms are unable to really hold an argument or be consistent with their views. At least most white nationalists typically don’t support the bullshit economics hitler did.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549239343 202007062,202014105,2019-02-04 00:17:14,">>202008264 This is a misquote. Actual quote is: ""Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now."" Not a big difference, but if you're going to paraphrase don't use quote marks.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549239434 202007062,202014213,2019-02-04 00:18:22,">>202013499 >>202013591 >>202013633 >>202013758 While we're here, let's organize something epic. It's not everyday that there are enough of us here that aren't constantly fighting off fucking stormfags.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549239502 202007062,202014256,2019-02-04 00:18:55,">>202013965 >>202013758 It's always the fucking authoritarian centrists that shit up threads",,Anonymous,4635409a5740d7c7d418924f63b27b9a5318d21e3c7b474a668c02caa43594ba.png,8aCj85JeyIQ6FBGarjYSlQ==,CA,Canada,1549239535 202007062,202014294,2019-02-04 00:19:16,">>202013591 based. AS. FACK.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549239556 202007062,202014301,2019-02-04 00:19:18,">>202013591 nice",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549239558 202007062,202014382,2019-02-04 00:20:17,">>202014213 WHY ARE ALL ANCAPS SUDDENLY GETTING FED UP AT THE SAME MOMENT?? IM TIRED BEING QUIET. I'M READY TO FIGHT.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549239617 202007062,202014419,2019-02-04 00:20:36,,,Anonymous,ancap ball basde.jpg,kZTz1bRS2wq9pbPoMJAryg==,CA,Canada,1549239636 202007062,202014500,2019-02-04 00:21:38,">>202014213 What do you want to do?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549239698 202007062,202014513,2019-02-04 00:21:49,>>202014419,,Anonymous,1548111253439.png,EO8QMOHk40GRL9h1H1loag==,CA,Canada,1549239709 202007062,202014632,2019-02-04 00:23:23,">>202014382 >WHY ARE ALL ANCAPS SUDDENLY GETTING FED UP AT THE SAME MOMENT?? >IM TIRED BEING QUIET. I'M READY TO FIGHT. It's time to capitalize; pun intended. We know to have gold, guns, etc. We have crypto, whatever. We need Ancapistan. We need to start out small. The FSP is way too big. Can we think in terms of a city or county?",,Anonymous,1522355082333.jpg,dTtgb4UhCADbYZNfVokKLw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549239803 202007062,202014646,2019-02-04 00:23:32,,,Anonymous,bi5j778acbt01.jpg,Otw0kPLFr4IXH+pIKtTYsw==,CA,Canada,1549239812 202007062,202014655,2019-02-04 00:23:40,">>202014500 see >>202014632",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549239820 202007062,202014670,2019-02-04 00:23:48,">>202014382 Because ever since Tucker Carlson said capitalism isn’t what america needs, Neo-Cons, Nazis, Populists, and Fascists have been shitting on the idea of capitalism, free trade, and private property rights. It gets a bit annoying to have dipshits say your ideology shills for people who are deplatforming the entire right of the political spectrum. We get deplatformed too you know.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549239828 202007062,202014742,2019-02-04 00:24:41,,,Anonymous,1548205186758.jpg,SFNfrCS43SUyaJS59x+6aQ==,CA,Canada,1549239881 202007062,202014788,2019-02-04 00:25:09,">>202014670 >We get deplatformed too you know. Haters gonna hate.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549239909 202007062,202014828,2019-02-04 00:25:39,">>202008017 >the helicopter pilots handbook in stragegy and tactics Kek",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549239939 202007062,202014847,2019-02-04 00:25:49,">>202009160 niggas got a point",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549239949 202007062,202015014,2019-02-04 00:27:45,">>202014670 Tucker said capitalism is still the best system but he says free market capitalism is a tool not a god. So he's shitting on free market capitalism",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549240065 202007062,202015027,2019-02-04 00:27:54,">>202014632 >>202014670 Liberland is a perfect project",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549240074 202007062,202015232,2019-02-04 00:30:39,">>202015027 >Liberland is a perfect project I don't know. I haven't paid that much attention to it since nobody can get there. What about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_relations_of_the_Sovereign_Military_Order_of_Malta ? They are considered a sovereign organization in international law and they have no territory to speak of.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549240239 202007062,202015574,2019-02-04 00:34:49,,,Anonymous,1548169081218.jpg,7KUdNLI/ZKYB7/m4CJJw+g==,CA,Canada,1549240489 202007062,202015647,2019-02-04 00:35:41,,,Anonymous,2fbb177.jpg,7LnTLqNy3hrVqEZetHaZ4Q==,CA,Canada,1549240541 202007062,202015731,2019-02-04 00:36:41,">>202015014 That didn’t stop half-tards from using twisting his words to further their fascist and socialist agendas.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549240601 202007062,202015770,2019-02-04 00:37:02,Fuck welfare and fuck chinks,,Anonymous,8B05C0BC-E7EF-451B-AE0A-31D2F1CB5DF9.gif,yxsDA+9fHQ09pMltjKPsiw==,AU,Australia,1549240622 202007062,202015960,2019-02-04 00:39:07,">>202015232 Sure they seem neat, but how do they help libertarians?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549240747 202007062,202015961,2019-02-04 00:39:07,">>202015731 This >>202015770 100% this too",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549240747 202007062,202016013,2019-02-04 00:39:47,">>202007062 https://youtu.be/Ov5etFXJ5NQ Thread theme.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549240787 202007062,202016104,2019-02-04 00:40:49,">>202014513 I like this abstract gentleman snek",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549240849 202007062,202016473,2019-02-04 00:44:41,Some aesthetic,,Anonymous,b5dbd7d87a2869885d962a5a55ba82cd8bb3014b02390ad93aae8480525ad2eb_0.png,dcSt+gOsXvrglc8XOvIF5w==,CA,Canada,1549241081 202007062,202016519,2019-02-04 00:45:09,,,Anonymous,4921d372e0ca0863e86f124dd99b774593153e3a5ecf2e9c88f775d72ad96777_0.png,qP33LXz4WJzsdNKiYxWagA==,CA,Canada,1549241109 202007062,202016629,2019-02-04 00:46:13,,,Anonymous,b976168fce488a33b0a8f6e2ac1147f716eaf72d9a7cb42351a520da65be37cf_0.png,swPt7vqhpZhp4rPLDfDueA==,CA,Canada,1549241173 202007062,202016720,2019-02-04 00:47:19,">>202016013 I second that motion.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549241239 202007062,202016846,2019-02-04 00:48:35,">>202015960 >Sure they seem neat, but how do they help libertarians? If a sovereign entity without sovereign territory is possible, why not try to build one of our own? That might give us a recognized status in international law before we start trying to find some land of our own.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549241315 202007062,202016903,2019-02-04 00:49:05,,,Anonymous,c0b3f1392cdcc522ad3acf17c2228f9730df578152ba60c8735e7a58f2be4359.jpg,6A7Bxa0/7+yW6sHAYJ/6ig==,CA,Canada,1549241345 202007062,202017005,2019-02-04 00:50:08,">>202009645 Based Rothbardstein",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549241408 202007062,202017092,2019-02-04 00:51:03,>>202016903,,Anonymous,1548868697956.png,7z628HKAxfDau2oPRimMMQ==,FI,Finland,1549241463 202007062,202017284,2019-02-04 00:53:07,">>202016903 oy vey.... shut it down.... we need taxes.... goys... no.... please...",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549241587 202007062,202017313,2019-02-04 00:53:31,,,Anonymous,c6eee46e292d403684652f93551a694eeddc0b1c57254f7bfcb5ff52ee67268b.jpg,HINXZgfKULKdyCUyPpOiPg==,CA,Canada,1549241611 202007062,202017372,2019-02-04 00:54:07,,,Anonymous,baea9802cd7b9dd1602342e55ef631df9fbca31e0dafa4c842647a4e1d1c6173.png,xeSbub9NAerqvzb0MyEVEQ==,CA,Canada,1549241647 202007062,202017447,2019-02-04 00:54:57,">>202016846 Ah right. I thought you were saying ""let's move there"", but you're actually saying ""let's do what they're doing"". That makes more sense. I'd do it if I could, but you'll find that there are two problems: 1. The Sovereign Military Order of Malta have a historical claim to their land that other countries respect. 2. They're a military organization. How can we find land that we can have a believable claim to (by the standards of the international community) and how can we accrue the military might needed to be taken seriously?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549241697 202007062,202017459,2019-02-04 00:55:06,,,Anonymous,1548043100291.png,+J7XB0s7pvoDtNNWvHcMkQ==,CA,Canada,1549241706 202007062,202017527,2019-02-04 00:55:58,,,Anonymous,d42a9c61e9881b32d2f91ebc5ddbee130282149faa45ae35683e7b477182f40d.jpg,wiDG4sf5R2gWtPYdIkFCgg==,CA,Canada,1549241758 202007062,202017555,2019-02-04 00:56:27,">>202017092 What's binland like?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549241787 202007062,202017705,2019-02-04 00:58:13,"Guys, I just want you to know that we definitely need the government. Who else would steal our money and use it to bomb brown people on the other side of the ocean?",,Anonymous,download (2).jpg,esWYpa5i6Xkx9JA8UwfS9w==,US,United States,1549241893 202007062,202017818,2019-02-04 00:59:26,">>202017555 Like any welfare state these days.",,Anonymous,likainen alokas.jpg,GtnkCwBFkBYzP11sELtAjA==,FI,Finland,1549241966 202007062,202017829,2019-02-04 00:59:35,">>202017447 >How can we find land that we can have a believable claim to (by the standards of the international community) and how can we accrue the military might needed to be taken seriously? These are two significant issues that should be initially dealt with separately. I would think that the latter would make the first much easier. In terms of military might, what is the weakest nation militarily that is taken seriously by the international community?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549241975 202007062,202017838,2019-02-04 00:59:41,">>202017459 kek, those guys are alright other than always shilling for retarded macroeconomic policies and central banking.",,Anonymous,42T8tRnnRWTZMXaxHkyHr1ku_GfLENLwM7lJvEZrkW0.jpg,ykqmTaRrxTBWSv3B0veqCA==,US,United States,1549241981 202007062,202018185,2019-02-04 01:03:10,">>202017705 Forget about Syria and Afghanistan, they are too distant. Remind americans of tragedies close to them. Take the waco seige for example. This was the worst shooting on US soil. The Waco seige was worse than the Vegas Shooting. And even after timothy mc veigh went postal, they still didn’t understand the tyranny that happened.",,Anonymous,6B8800B5-5469-4F5E-A746-D720074D1171.jpg,dD8PSGrXnGp774TvH/bjjA==,US,United States,1549242190 202007062,202018197,2019-02-04 01:03:20,">>202017829 >In terms of military might, what is the weakest nation militarily that is taken seriously by the international community? Depends if you mean on their own, or including their alliances. Also depends on whether you mean standing army or if you include all disposable income that could theoretically be turned into military might if needed. For example, New Zealand has one of the weakest militaries in the world, but it has good relations with *both* China and America so they would probably both defend it if threatened. It's also wealthy enough to put together a decent defense of its own on very short notice. If you just want the weakest country overall then it's probably just the poorest ones. Some African shithole I guess.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242200 202007062,202018274,2019-02-04 01:04:08,"What do you goyims think about Praxeology? I don't know if I buy into it, but do appreciate the skepticism toward empiricism being the end all and be all of knowledge (it's clear how much is is abused in economics). Other than that, I'm almost 100% with the Austrian school.",,Anonymous,ukmcjdt583f11.jpg,hRJ0ls4ULQDhgSsCYjfg6w==,US,United States,1549242248 202007062,202018368,2019-02-04 01:05:06,">>202018185 Janet ""The Child Roaster"" Reno is resting in the eternal oven for it. Press S to piss on her grave, lads.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549242306 202007062,202018537,2019-02-04 01:06:50,">>202018197 >Depends if you mean on their own Let's think barebones. I mean there must be enough legal firearms in America alone to put together something stronger than the weakest standing army in the world could.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242410 202007062,202018539,2019-02-04 01:06:50,">>202018274 I personally like praxeology and Mises",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549242410 202007062,202018575,2019-02-04 01:07:12,">>202018274 I'm a centrist on Praxeology. It definitely has some totally valid things to say, but it shouldn't be where we stop economic analysis. Probabilistic empirical models have their uses too.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242432 202007062,202018641,2019-02-04 01:08:03,">>202018368 S",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549242483 202007062,202018703,2019-02-04 01:08:42,Bump. Please keep making these threads.,,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549242522 202007062,202018738,2019-02-04 01:09:01,Evolution of a /pol/ user.,,Anonymous,B67E0589-BA37-4A8E-8BC5-5E89AEF85585.jpg,P2p5hr2tj6r6B0xn24UyLw==,US,United States,1549242541 202007062,202018853,2019-02-04 01:10:12,">>202018274 >I don't know if I buy into it The arguments go back further than Mises. Bohm-Bawerk destroyed Marxism, so they undermined the underpinnings of his argument by going after praxeology. You're literally siding with communists when you do that. Praxeology is the ""math"" of economics. In the same way math is a priori abstract, you use it in the empirical sciences to explain the world.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242612 202007062,202018939,2019-02-04 01:11:06,">>202018537 Oh yeah, if the armed US populace all rose up that'd be easily enough of an army to take on any threat. Not necessarily enough to defeat it, but enough to make it not worth anyone's while to tangle with it. It's not going to happen though. I think if you want to set up ancapistan, it has to be either an incremental governmental reform thing or you'd need to find some land that you could concentrate ancaps in. To be honest, the Free State Project in New Hampshire isn't a bad bet for my money, since it combines those two strategies.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242666 202007062,202019069,2019-02-04 01:12:21,">>202017838 To be fair they're both minarchists, but I'm pretty sure they are also against central banking.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549242741 202007062,202019211,2019-02-04 01:13:33,">>202019069 They're both against central banking in principle, but they believe it's politically unfeasible, therefore they simply advocate (or advocated in Friedman's case) for central bank reform.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242813 202007062,202019264,2019-02-04 01:14:02,">>202018939 >It's not going to happen though. I think if you want to set up ancapistan, it has to be either an incremental governmental reform thing or you'd need to find some land that you could concentrate ancaps in. >To be honest, the Free State Project in New Hampshire isn't a bad bet for my money, since it combines those two strategies. Well, the issue, as Hoppe pointed out, is that a state is too big. We could make a bigger impact if we focus on a smaller patch of land. That is why I first mentioned a county. Which counties would be easiest for us to take over?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242842 202007062,202019420,2019-02-04 01:15:36,">>202018738 me",,Anonymous,Screenshot_20190203-201505.jpg,Tl/ZxO2GGBm1jlvGNynOMQ==,CA,Canada,1549242936 202007062,202019436,2019-02-04 01:15:49,">>202018575 >It definitely has some totally valid things to say, but it shouldn't be where we stop economic analysis Your knowledge is incomplete. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thymology",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549242949 202007062,202020202,2019-02-04 01:22:56,">>202007062 It's so weird to me that people don't even take their own freedom into consideration when making political decisions these days. I know democracy is designed to be this way but God damn it really does feel like the world is filled with lemmings.",,Anonymous,1442185361336.jpg,FPVwuOJiqK9r3zgqSIttKA==,BR,Brazil,1549243376 202007062,202020214,2019-02-04 01:22:59,"AnCap General? With a frog image? Stupid frogposters!",,Anonymous,innocent.jpg,2AkzOVDo2duVQ8PFbWcc+Q==,US,United States,1549243379 202007062,202020316,2019-02-04 01:23:54,">>202020202 wasted",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549243434 202007062,202020379,2019-02-04 01:24:24,">>202020202 checked",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549243464 202007062,202020412,2019-02-04 01:24:40,">>202020202 Digits confirm.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549243480 202007062,202020413,2019-02-04 01:24:42,">>202020214 fugg ID gett but scriptfag",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549243482 202007062,202020554,2019-02-04 01:25:52,">>202020413 >but scriptfag this",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549243552 202007062,202020604,2019-02-04 01:26:20,">>202020214 I hate the frog too but it attracts a lot of people in this board",,Anonymous,stare.jpg,mkLIJyNPCpGpoeaTgbZTvw==,BR,Brazil,1549243580 202007062,202020672,2019-02-04 01:26:52,">>202019436 That's interesting. Will learn more. Thanks.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549243612 202007062,202020693,2019-02-04 01:27:10,">>202020202 epic win",,Anonymous,checkem.jpg,F4pHsYE7kDOtOf1W2ZkQew==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549243630 202007062,202021054,2019-02-04 01:30:43,">>202019264 If you wanted to just flood the area with ancap immigrants like a bunch of black and yellow muslims I'd probably say pick a small county in Alaska.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549243843 202007062,202021419,2019-02-04 01:34:26,">>202020693 they're trying to equate",,Anonymous,1548798494188.jpg,lMZJHgKk3F/8R4P492gA5Q==,US,United States,1549244066 202007062,202021799,2019-02-04 01:38:10,">>202021054 >If you wanted to just flood the area with ancap immigrants like a bunch of black and yellow muslims I'd probably say pick a small county in Alaska. No, I'm thinking more like finding a county that is good on ordinances already (no building codes or enforcement), a small population, and the means to get there and easily take over the county commissioner board in an inexpensive election. Then we can liberate the county from the burden of governance and offer private enterprise in its stead. Maybe Alaska, but what about somewhere near the desert? We don't need to flood some place with migrants if enough of us can just show up and make shit happen.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549244290 202007062,202022160,2019-02-04 01:41:51,,,Anonymous,1548795360313.png,cIHdW7ZTAHnD/GkfK+ovag==,US,United States,1549244511 202007062,202022282,2019-02-04 01:43:15,">>202021799 >>202021054 Also, are there state lands that are not yet governed by counties that are not some kind of forest or some other protected land?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549244595 202007062,202022787,2019-02-04 01:48:50,,,Anonymous,"flat,1000x1000,075,f.jpg",0JBAcEF7xkSUxlQxjvb7JQ==,US,United States,1549244930 202007062,202022948,2019-02-04 01:50:28,">>202021799 I guess you're looking at something in South Dakota with that description. I don't know about the differences between individual counties there.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549245028 202007062,202023160,2019-02-04 01:52:42,">>202022787 snek is cute",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549245162 202007062,202023174,2019-02-04 01:52:50,">>202020202 Fucking checked.",,Anonymous,1495553912455.jpg,eOOSvrscLLTVZ4VeP+k4Gw==,US,United States,1549245170 202007062,202023389,2019-02-04 01:55:04,">>202023174 >>202020693 >>202020412 >>202020379 >>202020316 >>202020202 Damn I didn't even check, thank you based Sakura!",,Anonymous,ccs.png,5q7OWmPBOwWXV2x0ON4v7A==,BR,Brazil,1549245304 202007062,202023443,2019-02-04 01:55:36,">>202018575 >Probabilistic empirical models have their uses too They cause more harm than good. Undeniably they cause more harm than good, and it's inescapable given how people are so incentivized to play themselves and their work off as being the most accurate and important work ever done.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549245336 202007062,202023470,2019-02-04 01:55:50,">>202022282 Not really. All terrotories are claimed by one government or another. The only exceptions are Bir Tawil (spot of land between Sudan and Egypt) and Liberland (spot of land between Croatia and Serbia). But both have been claimed to some degree by private citizens attempting (with varying success) to set up an impromptu nation. So no, there's nowhere to go... Well, unless you want to go to inhospitable land in the Antarctic. That could possibly work.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549245350 202007062,202023648,2019-02-04 01:57:33,">>202007062 bump",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549245453 202007062,202023724,2019-02-04 01:58:22,">>202023443 That's a problem with how people use empirical models. They use them like they're fuckin' logical positivists or some shit. If, however, you use them as general rule-of-thumb decision making tools they're really useful. For example, I've use the efficient market hypothesis to do some pretty good investments despite the fact that it's technically wrong.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549245502 202007062,202023991,2019-02-04 02:01:29,">>202007226 >In a private property society property owners near beaner land will own enough property so tortillas can't migrate north without entering someone's property and those property owners will use an incredibly expensive amount of resources to prevent spics from traveling across their barren wasteland. A national boarder wall is in no way libertarian retard. Letting property owners at the boarder build a wall if they want is but only the government would waste non-trivial amounts of money on something so stupid",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549245689 202007062,202024038,2019-02-04 02:01:57,">>202007062 none of the writers you cite are anarchists",,Anonymous,,,GB,United Kingdom,1549245717 202007062,202024152,2019-02-04 02:03:24,">>202022948 >South Dakota Why South Dakota? Do they not have building codes? >>202023470 >All terrotories are claimed by one government or another. All are governed by counties? Are there any places where we could avoid being governed by a county?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549245804 202007062,202024191,2019-02-04 02:03:53,">>202023724 I'd rather make people feel unimportant and like shit in their work so that they do less of it, and so the people who are drawn to fields by their prestige never even look at econometric shit because it acquires that negative stigma. Modeling is really not that useful, and even if it can have uses for deducing or eliminating plausible explanations about aggregated human behavior, degenerate egg-headed egotists can, do, and will continue to take advantage of it to plug their disgustingly biased agendas and pass them off as being truth (at worst) or next-to-truth (at best). It just needs to die or otherwise stay in closeted circles forever.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549245833 202007062,202024213,2019-02-04 02:04:07,any bryan caplan fans? https://youtu.be/HPoBGQ02JTI,,Anonymous,,,AU,Australia,1549245847 202007062,202024608,2019-02-04 02:08:41,">>202023991 1. You can have a private border wall 2. How isn't a gun a good way to prevent people from going on your property. 3. Sure they may be able to get in but lots of store owners will refuse to give them services 4. If they're beaners who can't work or live without socialized healthcare or welfare then they won't stay.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549246121 202007062,202025143,2019-02-04 02:14:53,">>202024152 >Why South Dakota? Do they not have building codes? They are easy to get to, have a low population (so it's easier to outnumber the locals), have low taxes, and low regulatory burden. Nowhere has *no* building codes to my knowledge. >All are governed by counties? Are there any places where we could avoid being governed by a county? Sorry, I misread your original comment. I thought you said ""country"". I don't know the answer to this question.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549246493 202007062,202025276,2019-02-04 02:16:23,">>202008700 Are you that guy from the last general? Do you remember the Costa-Rican faggot?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549246583 202007062,202025344,2019-02-04 02:17:16,">>202009160 Shut up faggot neocons are war-mongering faggots. AnCaps want peace.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549246636 202007062,202025352,2019-02-04 02:17:19,">>202025276 He's in every thread trying to 'btfo lolbertarians'",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549246639 202007062,202025412,2019-02-04 02:18:00,">>202009825 Literal memeflag.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549246680 202007062,202025740,2019-02-04 02:21:42,">>202017459 >>202017527 Top fucking kek, thanks Leaf-Bro.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549246902 202007062,202025905,2019-02-04 02:23:32,">>202014632 Capitalize and Organize.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549247012 202007062,202025976,2019-02-04 02:24:26,">>202025344 >wasted doubles on b8",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549247066 202007062,202026089,2019-02-04 02:25:38,">>202021799 We could try somewhere in South America. It'll be a symbiotic relationship between us and them. They get full liberation and prosperity, and we get land. I would say Africa but they're not really competent at all so...",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549247138 202007062,202026287,2019-02-04 02:28:03,">>202025143 >Nowhere has *no* building codes to my knowledge. I have looked for this and found a county in Nevada, I believe. I can't remember the name, but they had a population of like 600 out in the desert. >I don't know the answer to this question. This might be something we need to research to find a good answer to. Hopefully the stormfags won't steal and shit all over our ideas like they always do.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549247283 202007062,202026374,2019-02-04 02:29:01,">>202026089 >We could try somewhere in South America. Do you have any places in mind? Where is our brazilbro?>>202020202",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549247341 202007062,202026385,2019-02-04 02:29:06,">>202026089 To add on to this, there are some countries like Peru that have sea access, a desert, highlands, mountain ranges and have a jungle next to them. Most of this land is empty too. Dirt cheap too, 1 USD=3-3.5 Soles. >>202025976 God damnit.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549247346 202007062,202026686,2019-02-04 02:32:01,">>202026089 >>202026374 There is a sizeable ancap movement here, if it was to happen somewhere it'd have to be in the southern parts of the country, more specifically the mid southwest and south. Also it'd be great if we could sell some freedom to the people up north, God knows they need it. Socialist policies have fucking ruined that entire region.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549247521 202007062,202026739,2019-02-04 02:32:39,">>202009160 Niggers like you deserve to have the NAP violated non stop",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549247559 202007062,202026952,2019-02-04 02:35:01,">>202026385 >Dirt cheap too Like how dirt cheap? >Peru How are their laws from our perspective?",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549247701 202007062,202027310,2019-02-04 02:38:49,">>202026686 Argentina, Chile, Paraguay, and Uruguayans. probably won't want anything to do with this as their countries are already in a decent position, at least compared to the rest of the continent. All other countries, including Venezuela if it falls are fair game for a liberation movement.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549247929 202007062,202027336,2019-02-04 02:39:04,">>202010393 No because /biz/ brainlets fomo in every major drop on crypto and they bitch about it when it drops even more so they sell too early >>>/biz/ Buy high sell low Never change /biz/",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549247944 202007062,202027540,2019-02-04 02:41:45,"What are you studying lads ? Engineering student here",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549248105 202007062,202027724,2019-02-04 02:43:47,">>202027540 Neet studying philosophy and political philosophy in my free time",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549248227 202007062,202027991,2019-02-04 02:46:46,">>202027540 Art, even though I'd probaly have better luck with programming.",,Anonymous,1508552939280.gif,9j+tmjoJGlvOf4YcYUGsbg==,BR,Brazil,1549248406 202007062,202028083,2019-02-04 02:47:58,">>202027540 Gunsmith and make guns Its a nice investment for unserialized firearms, federally legal of course until the shutdown habbens again. Drop about $500 to $700 per build and do a 200rnd break in test Wait some time to pass and then sell it as ""not needed"" for like $1000 or more on a private sale. Non-serialized firearms would be more profitable since theyre not easy to trace and theres no trouble with cucked state 2 week wait times. Before anyone jumps the gun, you the seller and myself are the only contributing factor for sales in general. Its up to the creator/seller to follow through with the sale before money is presented. I obviously wont sell to niggers but hey its money.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549248478 202007062,202028109,2019-02-04 02:48:14,">>202024608 >Let me just sit on my 300 acre plot of land, 24 hours a day, looking for beaners to shoot For points 1 and 2: very few people would waste that much time or money For point 3: so? For point 4: so let's put more effort into abolishing the welfare state instead of into getting the government to build a border wall National border walls are not libertarian",,Anonymous,17638837.png,eS4/XyYYjm9vPhg/ZYNHXA==,US,United States,1549248494 202007062,202028506,2019-02-04 02:53:01,">>202028109 >National border walls are not libertarian You're right, but once it's up, the LP won't have to worry about it being a divisive part of its platform.",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549248781 202007062,202028928,2019-02-04 02:57:36,">>202026952 Gun laws are strict because of culture. There are a moderate amount of regulations but such little enforcement that no one really gives a shit. For example, if I were to launch mini fireworks here in the park, I'd probably get some cop on my ass, whereas there, the cop may or may not stop me and is probably not even there. This is due in part to corruption and police just not giving a shit.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549249056 202007062,202029334,2019-02-04 03:02:31,">>202022948 >>>202023470 >>202025143 >>202026089 https://permies.com/t/49404/locations-zoning-building-permits",,Anonymous,tumblr_mizv7cGAke1s3ugtho1_r2_1280-750x557.jpg,O+v5NX+gvlW+vFO0lXYRtg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549249351 202007062,202029871,2019-02-04 03:08:41,">>202020202 >Hue-oh-hue-oh-hue-oh-hue-oh-hue",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549249721 202007062,202029922,2019-02-04 03:09:11,">>202028928 what does corruption have anything to do with it? cops operate arbitrarily, on their own discretion - nothing stops them from doing or compels them to do anything at all",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549249751 202007062,202029974,2019-02-04 03:09:43,">>202027540 I can’t decide between Petroleum or Nuclear Engineering. I love the energy sector as a whole.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549249783 202007062,202030721,2019-02-04 03:17:30,">>202029334 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unorganized_Borough,_ >>202021054 >>202021799",,Anonymous,1280px-Map_of_Alaska_highlighting_the_Unorganized_Borough.svg.png,xjVRGPeS/VimMwxwsUCeqw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549250250 202007062,202030902,2019-02-04 03:19:30,"This is why Aanrchy does not work, and why you faggots won't do shit & you will cuck to niggers, hispanics, and corporations as they literally shoot you. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6661167/1-American-killed-1-injured-gunmen-Acapulco.html",,Anonymous,Anarchyfacingreality.jpg,UGL+0qYMOHkskn0iO24gGA==,CR,Costa Rica,1549250370 202007062,202030918,2019-02-04 03:19:40,"Command Economies Suck https://youtu.be/tKQoPEqqV3g",,Anonymous,057EA49E-B271-43A4-8C43-6DBA7E12DAE9.jpg,LSN0VlAFvP/rD7H5yH14Tw==,US,United States,1549250380 202007062,202031067,2019-02-04 03:21:08,">>202007062 Libertarians get the rope",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549250468 202007062,202031191,2019-02-04 03:22:35,">>202029334 >>202030721 >>202022948 >>202026089 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unorganized_territory ""Unorganized territories, as defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, occur in 10 minor civil division (MCD) states (Arkansas, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, Maine, Minnesota, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, and South Dakota) where portions of counties are not included in any legally established MCD or independent incorporated place. The U.S. Census Bureau recognizes such separate pieces of territory as one or more separate county subdivisions for statistical purposes. It assigns each unorganized territory a descriptive name, followed by the designation ""unorganized territory"". Unorganized territories were first used for statistical purposes in conjunction with the 1960 census.""",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549250555 202007062,202031211,2019-02-04 03:22:45,">>202031067 Yes they do 1488",,Anonymous,1488.jpg,7ApOgWQONOGXwb/LddlgSw==,CR,Costa Rica,1549250565 202007062,202031321,2019-02-04 03:23:58,">>202030902 >imagine wanting to get rid of peoples gun rights >>202031211 you get the rope faggot",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549250638 202007062,202031483,2019-02-04 03:26:12,">>202031211 Aren’t you the same guy from Siam who said he wasn’t about the 88 in the previous thread?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549250772 202007062,202031511,2019-02-04 03:26:26,">>202031321 You'll be raked and dropped in the sea with communists and other retards.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549250786 202007062,202031629,2019-02-04 03:27:55,">>202031511 Hey nigger, how's that plantation going?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549250875 202007062,202031653,2019-02-04 03:28:08,">>202031483 Na I'm the white in Costa Rica, 1488 is the only way forward lol you cannot separate the two.",,Anonymous,proxylol.jpg,olGdyZGpSt35gS8GVvxtEQ==,CR,Costa Rica,1549250888 202007062,202031662,2019-02-04 03:28:16,">>202031511 You call yourself a neetsoc. You'd get the fucking rope first faggot. Plus you're just like the left >see look at this one shooting. dis is why you shouldn't have guns guys",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549250896 202007062,202031767,2019-02-04 03:29:44,">>202031653 My bad. Your flags are similar.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549250984 202007062,202031771,2019-02-04 03:29:46,">>202031662 I never said you shouldn't have guns I was pointing to an Anarchist getting shot by a hispanic you sperglord. I doubt I would get the rope first buddy but if I have to die for the white race to survive so be it.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549250986 202007062,202031777,2019-02-04 03:29:53,">>202031653 >tin roof OH NONONONO LOOK AT THIS THIRD WORLD POORFAG",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549250993 202007062,202031784,2019-02-04 03:29:57,">>202007062 privatized military is balkanization",,Anonymous,merchants guild.png,mSfikDkXcv+v3QRu6w9tGg==,,Gadsden,1549250997 202007062,202031808,2019-02-04 03:30:18,">>202031653 I was thinking of faking my death and taking what money I have in my accounts and moving to Costa Rica. Can a moderately attractive white guy make it pretty far down there?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549251018 202007062,202031856,2019-02-04 03:30:57,>>202007062,,Anonymous,sbd.png,h9HJDcgN8h+UCb5F7SO3Zg==,ES,Spain,1549251057 202007062,202031872,2019-02-04 03:31:10,">>202031629 It's very nice here, gonna start growing hemp so I can make my rope.",,Anonymous,Blueeyedcelt.jpg,djPVDwy0EG0RvMnAOHj+hQ==,CR,Costa Rica,1549251070 202007062,202031993,2019-02-04 03:32:48,">>202031808 Don't go on the East side, West side is full of whites & the girls are quite fucking hot the tourists are beautiful tons of blonde haired blue eyed chicks walking around. Got 3 acres for 60k so if you can manage even that you can make it.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251168 202007062,202032144,2019-02-04 03:34:33,">>202031993 >3 acres Any chance I could grow my own food? How's the internet? As far as the $60k goes, I'm more than alright on that front. Is the West Side nothing but tourists though?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549251273 202007062,202032175,2019-02-04 03:34:57,">>202031777 Lol, i'm renting a property until I can build my own home and that's the roof to my pool lmao.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251297 202007062,202032177,2019-02-04 03:34:58,">>202031784 >privatize you military The fag who made that can't even spell >>202031872 >>202031993 >>202031771 >le white race >i-im white guys >muh 1488 I could tell you're a weak willed stonerfag who needs daddy Fuhrer to make you to stop smoking weed and jacking off to trannys",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549251298 202007062,202032241,2019-02-04 03:36:00,">>202031784 Explain to me how that is bad. Or what you even are trying to say with that meme. >>202031872 Lol reverse image search brings up nothing, but google thinks you are a girl. Word of advice, cut that mop faggot. If your gonna go “sieg hiel” “1488-1984” at least try to make your self look like the ubermensch.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549251360 202007062,202032298,2019-02-04 03:36:44,">>202032144 Na there is lot's of expats some parts are touristy, it reminds me alot of Canada but not chinked out. you can definitely grow your food everything grows here.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251404 202007062,202032375,2019-02-04 03:37:34,">>202032241 I'm growing it longer for fun, once it's down to my shoulders I'll be a true Celt like my ancestors.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251454 202007062,202032463,2019-02-04 03:38:38,">>202032298 Good shit, are the expats cool or are they a bunch of dickheads?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549251518 202007062,202032467,2019-02-04 03:38:46,">>202032144 Regarding the internet I get 1MB/s and once I fully build my land I hope to get fiber optic and get higher it will be expensive but so what it's worth it.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251526 202007062,202032569,2019-02-04 03:40:11,">>202032463 I thought they would be assholes but you meet cool people everywhere, I met a guy who owns an A.I company in manhattan, a few Canadians who prefer it, and super friendly and interesting people. I barely see any niggers and people try and live a pretty laid back and nice life.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251611 202007062,202032643,2019-02-04 03:41:04,">>202032375 Are you Pagan too?",,Anonymous,1461802741762.jpg,n2MwC04f4n+SPzTwgRQ/cg==,CA,Canada,1549251664 202007062,202032740,2019-02-04 03:42:08,">>202032375 I don’t think the aztecs or iberians really did that.",,Anonymous,934B388D-A1F5-464A-B19B-8CEEC83C98BA.gif,jxHkHgNtEpTH+vzX+dmjBA==,US,United States,1549251728 202007062,202032780,2019-02-04 03:42:48,">>202032643 Na, but it's a better religion than a kike on a stick... If I had to choose I would definitely follow my Germanic and Celtic blood and follow their gods.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251768 202007062,202032834,2019-02-04 03:43:31,">>202032740 I'm Austrian, and Scottish lol ever looked at vikings?",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251811 202007062,202032964,2019-02-04 03:44:56,">>202032780 You're more cringe than Varg",,Anonymous,1548995691772.jpg,aMNjXfqjHZXgLGpyhShEYQ==,CA,Canada,1549251896 202007062,202032989,2019-02-04 03:45:14,"what is the snap currency back by, and who controls it?",,Anonymous,,,IE,Ireland,1549251914 202007062,202033034,2019-02-04 03:45:50,">>202032989 ancap t. retard",,Anonymous,,,IE,Ireland,1549251950 202007062,202033089,2019-02-04 03:46:32,">>202032964 You have a memeflag and live under Trudeau can you please speak up? oh yeah sit back down.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549251992 202007062,202033112,2019-02-04 03:46:49,">>202032989 >>202033034 It's private currencies or crypto whichever you choose.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549252009 202007062,202033241,2019-02-04 03:48:16,">>202032834 Ah yes the vikings. The yarl told me that there was a dragon in helgen. Can you believe it. A dragon in skyrim. https://youtu.be/4BUIXq8oblY",,Skyrim Belongs to the Dwarven,0A250A58-9913-4B65-83A3-FBC3BDF2066A.jpg,9JYk9HwCJc5McMMz1MA5rQ==,US,United States,1549252096 202007062,202033256,2019-02-04 03:48:24,">>202033089 At least Varg doesn't unironically say le dead kike on a stick. Also I don't think someone from your meme county should be insulting a first world country",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549252104 202007062,202033330,2019-02-04 03:49:22,">>202032964 Hes like Varg and the Golden One and ((( Brother Nathanial ))) fused together in one bad batch of cringe.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549252162 202007062,202033515,2019-02-04 03:51:42,">>202033256 It was a joke something you low somalian refugees cannot understand, I don't agree with varg or them I was just saying I would rather support paganism over Christianity because it was my peoples faith.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549252302 202007062,202033667,2019-02-04 03:53:34,">>202033256 Also have fun selling your homes, land, and culture to the chinks i'm sure they will enjoy it you fucking faggot.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549252414 202007062,202033719,2019-02-04 03:54:06,">>202033515 You sound exactly like Varg though >muh ancestors are my god's >le dead kike on a stick >ur not white of you have brown eyes >you're a jew if you follow an abrahamic religion",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549252446 202007062,202033849,2019-02-04 03:55:47,">>202033719 They are not my gods I have blue eyes however there are whites that have brown eyes and if you want to follow Christianity follow as you wish I do not want to divide whites for the upcoming battles.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549252547 202007062,202033932,2019-02-04 03:56:57,">>202033667 Throwing insults from below doesn't sound very good. Canada is whiter than the USA and that meme 3rd world shithole you moved to for some reason.",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549252617 202007062,202034279,2019-02-04 04:01:07,">>202033932 I was born in a town called Nelson British Columbia google it, I don't want to see Canada fall I just realize how retarded some of you are. I moved to Costa Rica with my family because I didn't want to live in the U.S any longer with 13.5% blacks and 20% hispanics, I would rather live in a homogenous ethnostate and the richest country in Latin America. You will import more chinese, more refugees and your society will become a shithole I'm building my family first before I return and fight for my volk.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549252867 202007062,202034649,2019-02-04 04:05:44,">>202034279 >He makes fun of me for being a leaf >But he is a leaf himself Pottery",,Anonymous,1548883546995.gif,p21oeuLR2qOZLwko7gCJaQ==,CA,Canada,1549253144 202007062,202034947,2019-02-04 04:09:41,">>202034649 Indeed I am a fellow leafboy, and i'm proud of my beautiful little white town it's dope, i'm also half American though and have lived there a majority of my life I hope when the wars start I can be there on the American front and the Canadian front I love my people and my nations.",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549253381 202007062,202035071,2019-02-04 04:11:14,">>202034649 But acting like Canada is any better off than America is wrong, you have shitty domestic laws, shitty family laws, shitty immigration laws, and you too are controlled by (((them)))",,Anonymous,,,CR,Costa Rica,1549253474 202007062,202035233,2019-02-04 04:13:24,Opposition to war and imperialism were huge themes in Rothbard's writings and Ron Paul's presidential campaigns. Why is it emphasized so little in these threads?,,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549253604 202007062,202035727,2019-02-04 04:19:31,">>202035233 >Opposition to war and imperialism because they are really zionnist neocon shills that want you to die for israel. their real goal is atomize ideologies so that everyone will oppose one another to keep them from rallying against them.",,Anonymous,newb.jpg,sAuJ68b/x6qt+jMCwYx8aw==,,Gadsden,1549253971 202007062,202035949,2019-02-04 04:22:15,">>202024213 I really liked his books, but there is something about him that annoys me.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549254135 202007062,202036155,2019-02-04 04:24:38,">>202035233 Because there are a significant number of people who in all seriousness want to reserve for themselves the right to throw strangers who they know next to nothing about out of helicopters, so taking a principled stance against war would be an obstruction to their desire to perpetrate the same atrocities libertarians reject about war against other people they don't like.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549254278 202007062,202036271,2019-02-04 04:25:51,">>202036155 Chill dude. The helicopter shit is just a meme",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549254351 202007062,202036430,2019-02-04 04:27:58,">>202036271 To most people. And it's not like even the ones who might take it seriously would likely ever have the gall to push someone out of a helicopter themselves, but it's a fact that most people are opportunists, and if they find something convenient and without personal consequences, they'll be happy to do it or else support its being done ""in the abstract"".",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549254478 202007062,202036600,2019-02-04 04:30:07,">>202036271 ""helicopter rides"" ""race war now"" all memes from zionist neocon shills and israelis trying to make people look like extremists.",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549254607 202007062,202036772,2019-02-04 04:32:25,">>202009845 People prefer to live in civilization, civilized and advanced societies based on private property would forbid this practice within its borders. Since most people would demand moral societies where children are not for sale, most private cities, etc, would supply moral societies where children would not be for sale. This is from a ""how would it work in Ancap"" point of view. If you want to go deeper into a phylosophical point of view, selling children implies ownership and ownership of people is slavery. so it couldn't be done. What Rothbard advocates for is selling tutorship over the children, not selling children.",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549254745 202007062,202036776,2019-02-04 04:32:27,">>202035071 Just reading your last few posts make me sad. I mean I was trying to tease you, but your such a sad display. Your honestly a coward for leaving. It would be understandable if it where as bad as Rhodesia or accelerating as fast as sweden. But no your just a stormweenie who went to an even more shit skin country.",,Anonymous,1732FC2B-0F3D-4DA3-AC2D-5AC604295C05.png,hEZTu+HFemF5XGFnl01kxg==,US,United States,1549254747 202007062,202037016,2019-02-04 04:35:27,">>202036600 >""Israeli shill"" a meme to make people look like schizos Btw the memes were created by the groups themselves because people like to laugh and have inside jokes. To an outsider it may seem extreme but everyone inside knows it's a joke. That's the point of the JOKE",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549254927 202007062,202037296,2019-02-04 04:39:16,">>202037016 the point of the (((joke))) is to make you look like a toxic psychopath so no one will take you serously and oppose anything logical you might point out",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549255156 202007062,202037346,2019-02-04 04:39:49,">>202036155 You're not considering the context of the meme, even if it's a joke, there's a certain degree of truth to it, like in every joke. Advocating for communism is completely incompatible with libertarianism, since we believe property is self-ownership, and they advocate for the revolution of the proletariat, which is nothing but violence to steal property. People who advocate for violence and who are only waiting to have the numbers before they begin aggressing are a threat, and threats are meant to be dealt with.,",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549255189 202007062,202037495,2019-02-04 04:42:19,">>202037296 I don't have any evidence to disprove your side but if you look at it logically which is more likely: >The meme was created by people in the group for shits and giggles Or >The meme was created by a bunch of Israeli shills to make the group look like a bunch of extremists to destroy their image",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549255339 202007062,202037797,2019-02-04 04:46:47,">>202037495 ooooo i dunno who has more to gain a few assholes making some dark humor or assholes that have been memeing on the world for over two thousand years",,Anonymous,israshill.jpg,BRNn7a7xnhTabxqAVkxFvQ==,,Gadsden,1549255607 202007062,202037820,2019-02-04 04:47:14,">>202009645 And nothing is wrong with this, provided they aren't pedos.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549255634 202007062,202037891,2019-02-04 04:48:20,">>202037346 No. People can say whatever they want. You will never be justified in killing a person for merely saying anything. There is nothing a person can say - and say only - that could ever in any world justify you violently slaying them.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549255700 202007062,202037964,2019-02-04 04:49:23,">>202037797 Lol I shitpost on an Israel proxy all the time to rule you people up. It's literally nothing",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549255763 202007062,202038094,2019-02-04 04:51:30,">>202037891 I'm pretty sure if a group of armed hillbillies started yelling ""kill the niggers"", gathering every other night and planning about what they're going to do once they convince enough people, you'd see it more clearly.",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549255890 202007062,202038189,2019-02-04 04:53:01,">>202037964 *rile",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549255981 202007062,202038595,2019-02-04 04:58:06,">>202038094 Nah. Unless they do something, the only thing that's going to be exchanged is words. I'm not a degenerate animal whose main priority in life is my own personal gratification in feeling secure.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549256286 202007062,202038664,2019-02-04 04:58:58,">>202037891 The Bill of Rights only exception on freedom of speech is “speech that incites immediate violence”. I personally agree with that since speech that incites immediate violence is an act of agression. If someone threatens you, are you just going to stand there and wait for them to hit you? No your going to take action as soon as they say they want to hurt you. This applies to commies who actively advocate for a revolution or say they will do a revolution on a specifc date like “Nov 4 2017” (they pussied out). If a bunch of commies are just talking about the idea of it, and don’t want to instigate revolution, and keep them selves quarentined in a DIY space or just a workers union thats fine to me.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549256338 202007062,202038862,2019-02-04 05:01:30,">>202038664 I don't care if someone yells ""I'm gonna kill you"" - twenty million out of twenty million and one times, they're not going to attempt any such thing, and it's not a ground on which I'm justified in attacking you.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549256490 202007062,202038964,2019-02-04 05:02:57,">>202038595 So you don't believe that through threats towards someone's life, you can infer costs on the receiver? If I threaten your life and because of it you need to pay for bodyguards and live in fear, it's fine, cause I still didn't do something and we only exchanged words? The mere existence of communists in libertarian societies are a threat. As long as the solution commies propose to our disagreement is not ""we'll get some land and be commies there"", they should be dealt with. Now, as I said, the meme has some truth to it, I wouldn't throw them out of a helicopter, at least not initially.",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549256577 202007062,202039074,2019-02-04 05:04:36,">>202038862 What if they're waving a gun around and then saying that?",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549256676 202007062,202039205,2019-02-04 05:06:07,">>202039074 Until they shoot you him in the back of the head he won't do anything, apparently.",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549256767 202007062,202039208,2019-02-04 05:06:08,">>202038862 An empty threat would obviously be taken differently. But what is your point? Your just giving unrealistic if, then, and buts.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549256768 202007062,202039253,2019-02-04 05:06:43,">>202038862 your contrived hypothetical situation is not realistic. if someone is threatening you with violence e.g. hand reaching for gun, waving around a melee weapon and shouting or a person/group comes to your place of business and threaten you to extort money it is grounds for retaliation.",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549256803 202007062,202039273,2019-02-04 05:07:07,">>202038964 I don't think words alone can justify your attacking someone, no. I've lived a lot of my life around various dim-witted degenerates, some not-so-bad but boisterous frat-types, and many other kinds of guys who have said tons of verbally threatening shit, but the idea that anyone would crack their skulls, or shoot them, or stab them, or otherwise hurt them over that is infuriating. It's disgusting to think about. >>202039074 Then I'm not about to tell you you shouldn't find that threatening - notice the difference between that and mere words. It's pretty major.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549256827 202007062,202039306,2019-02-04 05:07:32,">>202039208 >unrealistic",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549256852 202007062,202039365,2019-02-04 05:08:28,">>202039253 >if someone is reaching for a gun Then someone is reaching for a gun. Notice that's a different act than whatever is coming or not coming out of their mouth. Use your brain.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549256908 202007062,202039453,2019-02-04 05:09:53,">>202039273 >Then I'm not about to tell you you shouldn't find that threatening - notice the difference between that and mere words. >It's pretty major I agree with you there. Most situations can be defused with words",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549256993 202007062,202039648,2019-02-04 05:12:28,">>202039306 Well your changing the context of what to do with commies in regards to freedom of speech. You can make as many combinations of “commies will do a revolution to X level of commitment, Y level of violence, and Z level of vocalness.”. Regardless of how you put it, If they make a threat that incites immediate violence or scheduled violence, that is not an empty threat. Then they will be delt with accordingly. Prefering peace options like talking them out of it and non-lethal counter attacks like tear gas if possible.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549257148 202007062,202039682,2019-02-04 05:12:50,">>202039453 And it's a fact that it's not simply words that is a good basis for literally violently attacking another person, which is the point I'm making. It's a point that matters - you're literally talking about actions where people's actual lives could be at stake, and some drunk guy stumbling on a corner yelling slurs wouldn't justify killing him.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257170 202007062,202039723,2019-02-04 05:13:22,">>202039365 >and shouting you can't read",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549257202 202007062,202039738,2019-02-04 05:13:35,">>202039273 I clarified that part of the joke is an exaggeration, meaning, there's no principle of reciprocity in the joke (you say ""I like Marx"" and I put a bullet on you"", and obviously that part should not be taken seriously. But the meme has a base (physical removal, a phrase coined by Hoppe which means societies built around libertarian principles, meaning, private properties with contracts, should have contractual prevention against communists and capability of evicting them. And the meme has some truth to it, meaning, communism is a threat on private property and self ownership, and there is moral grounds to believe that credible threats should be considered aggression.",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549257215 202007062,202039773,2019-02-04 05:14:03,">>202039682 If the guy was clearly drunk there's obviously no threat unless he's waving around a weapon. But he won't be effective with the weapon so you can easily disarm him",,Anonymous,,,CA,Canada,1549257243 202007062,202039790,2019-02-04 05:14:23,">>202039723 either way it doesn't matter a silent threat is the same",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549257263 202007062,202039810,2019-02-04 05:14:36,">>202039648 >Well your changing the context Where? I'm talking about words spoken. Commies saying ""YASSSS QUEEEEEN LENIIIIIIN SLAAAAAAY"" or whatever is words. You're not justified in using violence against them for that.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257276 202007062,202039856,2019-02-04 05:15:20,">>202039723 If a stranger is reaching for a gun and looking at you, you'd be happier if they were shouting.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257320 202007062,202040071,2019-02-04 05:18:42,"Posting a quote by based Lew. Does he have any books I should check out in particular?",,Anonymous,fP6pkCx-6XlRz15egJiys8cd0DsGwdbT2lBIftAEdSo.jpg,Ns4/6VQ64VRIYx9+xRWIKQ==,US,United States,1549257522 202007062,202040101,2019-02-04 05:19:19,">>202039810 this is why you nigs get shot all the time",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549257559 202007062,202040118,2019-02-04 05:19:44,">>202039738 I know where the meme comes from. I'm aware. It's hard for me to appreciate a meme that involves overt murder of strangers. I can find it funny in the right context, but the idea that there are people who don't really see anything wrong with the idea ""in the abstract"" of tossing commies - who they actually DO view as promoting violence themselves - out of helicopters. You should actually see something wrong with the idea of using violence against strangers for thoughtcrimes. I'm sure you do, but that's just why I don't appreciate the meme that much.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257584 202007062,202040206,2019-02-04 05:21:04,">>202040071 He has an enormous blog - imagining trying to go through all his stuff is overwhelming.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257664 202007062,202040270,2019-02-04 05:22:07,">>202040101 who",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257727 202007062,202040281,2019-02-04 05:22:19,">>202040118 The idea comes from a historic event which probably has little to do with libertarianism per se but: What do you suggest Pinochet should have done with the communist threat in Chile?",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549257739 202007062,202040330,2019-02-04 05:23:07,">>202039773 You can do whatever you want with the context, but in the end you'll notice that mere words never work for saying ""now I would be justified in killing him"".",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257787 202007062,202040460,2019-02-04 05:25:10,">>202040281 He should have killed himself. I'd have also advised that every person who might have thought to ""take his position"" should also have killed themselves. And the commies should have killed themselves too. I'd advise every single violent subjugator of anyone, everywhere to either repent or kill themselves.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549257910 202007062,202040673,2019-02-04 05:28:37,">>202040270 what do you mean ""who"" i'm talking about you. stupid niggers like you get shot all the time because you think all retarded.",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549258117 202007062,202040695,2019-02-04 05:28:53,">>202040460 so, since the communists weren't following your advice, and they were killing military people, church goers and factory owners, you believe that right wingers and people who believed in property laws should have just forfeited their rights peacefully?",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549258133 202007062,202040711,2019-02-04 05:29:06,">>202039810 Ive already stated that words that incite immediate violence are the ethically the only exception to freedom of speech. There free to say what ever crap they wan’t except for saying “Lets do dah revolution now comrads”. You also changed the argument from saying “commies are saying they will revolt” to “commies saying they will do a revolution, but there too big of cucks to do so”. If someone is serious about causing violence ( not drunk and not crying wolf), then you should take action. In the sameway a someone threatens you on the street. You take action as soon as they threaten you.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549258146 202007062,202040791,2019-02-04 05:30:28,">>202040673 you said >you nigs that's plural what's the criteria for inclusion in ""you nigs""",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549258228 202007062,202040866,2019-02-04 05:31:28,">>202040460 If that is your serious conclusion then your just not worth arguing with. Telling people to off them selves because they disagree is retarded for everybody. My Catchpas are getting longer and i gotta hit the hay.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549258288 202007062,202040883,2019-02-04 05:31:43,">>202040695 you asked what I personally think he should have done I honestly think he should have killed himself or tried to step down and repented from all the horrible things he supported that's what I think he should have done",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549258303 202007062,202040989,2019-02-04 05:33:15,">>202040711 no - you don't get to say which words can't be spoken nobody does you can respond to actual threats, which are not just words in any context every single context in which YOU think you could be justified in ATTACKING someone involves an actual, physical threat to you, and not just words every single context.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549258395 202007062,202041070,2019-02-04 05:34:12,">>202040866 >because they disagree no, because he was a murderer and supported murder and violent subjugation of people via his government goons not because ""he disagrees""",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549258452 202007062,202041119,2019-02-04 05:34:56,">>202040883 And then I asked you to know if you were considering the context of his actions. Since the response was still the same, it seems you are forfeiting the right of retaliation to violence. Can you link me libertarian/ancap authors who believe violence doesn't grant the right of retaliation?",,Anonymous,,,MT,Malta,1549258496 202007062,202041134,2019-02-04 05:35:05,"Way to derail a pretty comfy thread. >muh ebil helicopter meme killed fascists >actually he should just kill himself lmao",,Anonymous,1549152425618.png,vma7vikOOze2tRiOUIJTTw==,PT,Portugal,1549258505 202007062,202041222,2019-02-04 05:36:23,">>202040791 >what's the criteria someone that can't into thinking logical about threats, violence, and rights. its useless converse with someone unless the groundwork for understanding is already there. thats why 90% of discussion on 4chan is shit and add on top of that active subversive ideologues that just want to fuck shit up",,Anonymous,,,,Gadsden,1549258583 202007062,202041306,2019-02-04 05:37:44,">>202041119 >And then I asked you to know if you were considering the context of his actions I was. I prescribe the same thing. >it seems you are forfeiting the right of retaliation to violence I don't mind that personally, but that's not what I'm saying here: I think his guilt in human atrocities warrants he take what responsibility he can for his misdeeds, and that's best dealt with by repenting. Second best to repenting is killing yourself, since at least in the end you had humanity enough to feel guilt/shame over the absolutely horrible things you did/supported being done to other people.",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549258664 202007062,202041431,2019-02-04 05:39:41,">>202041222 What context have I suggested that you think I'm in the wrong for thinking it shouldn't be responded to with murder?",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1549258781 202081520,202081520,2019-02-04 17:31:00,"This thread is deticated to Anarcho Capitalists, Miniarchists, & Libertarians. Thread Theme: https://youtu.be/Ov5etFXJ5NQ Starting Topic: Why did you become an Ancap? Who has had the biggest impact on you?",ANCAP General,Anonymous,6581F494-257A-4E11-8A5F-0B7BAFE8E805.png,aO52lmq2pieBFIeCqJ8GXg==,US,United States,1549301460 202081520,202081755,2019-02-04 17:33:39,">>202081520 I just purchased this thread if you continue to post in it you will have violated the NAP and will be dealt with accordingly.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549301619 202081520,202081998,2019-02-04 17:36:28,">>202081520 What are the benefits of anarcho capitalism besides ancaps allowing faggots and trannies to run amok?",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549301788 202081520,202082136,2019-02-04 17:38:12,">>202081998 Hyper Darwinism To put it simply trannies will have to be able to pay for their own degeneracy, out of their own pocket. Without socialized healthcare or special redistributions they will bankrupt them selves and likely die.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549301892 202081520,202082238,2019-02-04 17:39:28,GET OFF OF MY PRIVATE PROPERTY,,Anonymous,qTFY4cs.jpg,U202Snu3Tc4NtFv9tQ0YqQ==,US,United States,1549301968 202081520,202082385,2019-02-04 17:41:13,">>202081998 Horizontal enforcement of dominant culture due to freedom of association and exclusion, making it so having those lifestyles becomes unsustainable within a homogeneous community. Degenerates like the ones you mentioned largely exist in their current form because of the safety nets the state creates. The more responsibility is put on people, the less incentive they have to be degenerate.",,Anonymous,,,BR,Brazil,1549302073 202081520,202082402,2019-02-04 17:41:26,">>202082136 So you are saying healthcare providers will just make them pay more? What makes you think said providers would hate degeneracy as much as you or I do? If anything, providing healthcare is still money in pockets so they would be accepted.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549302086 202081520,202084579,2019-02-04 18:05:37,">>202082402 No Im saying that many states provide a saftey net that financially saves their prolapsed asses.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549303537 202091867,202091867,2019-02-04 19:33:39,"Welcome Capitalists, Anarco Capitalists, Libertarians, and Miniarchists, or those who just simply wish to talk, debate, or discuss ancap ideas Frequently Used Strawmen >Muh Roads. Are inferior to trains, canals, and aircraft in every way imaginable. >Ancap would break out into warlords. No, in an anarcho capitalist society it would be very difficult to try to take over a highly armed individuals. >Muh child slaves The rights of children belong to their parents, they are not a commodity. Besides states today like the PRC turn a blind eye to child slavery and pedophilia. Actually pedophile gangs are rampant anoung our elite govenors anyways. Topic: Talk about the ideas of anarcho capitalism, what your unsure about, or just the flow of the market wheter it be stocks, crypto, or commodities. Thread Theme: https://youtu.be/CbVQN_e0hi4",ANCAP GENERAL,Anonymous,CEEA3831-9305-4C61-AD73-4E5DADC725B2.png,+GKNtKrKefDmG0kqCJl6mg==,US,United States,1549308819 202091867,202093710,2019-02-04 19:57:30,">>202091867 <^ ancap sci-fi",,Anonymous,withur we.jpg,vSUcVn5IUnhBjBnf22bGGw==,US,United States,1549310250 202091867,202094074,2019-02-04 20:01:22,">>202093710 Guess I’ll have to read it. Also >202091867 The job of a state is to protect the rights of its citizens Nothing more nothing less It doesnt exist to solve your everyday fucking problems",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549311530 202091867,202096395,2019-02-04 20:29:34,">>202095486 What do you think causes people think it should? Not trying to test you, just trying to get some discussion going.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549312174 202091867,202098241,2019-02-04 20:52:09,">>202091867 Bump",,Anonymous,FF1E8C37-7A01-44B7-9049-B06D409841E3.png,SWQLp+AIHGzHy3LYzD7gMA==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549313529 202725536,202725536,2019-02-10 16:21:44,,Ancap General,Anonymous,image.png,EsLbIBXu28Z8UceZ5pYh8Q==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549815704 202823753,202823753,2019-02-11 15:07:36,"Ancaps, Libertarians and Minarchists get in here GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf",/AC/ AnCap General - Fuck jannies edition,Anonymous,1517161276005.jpg,mKlqff63tQAycA0fpuX41g==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549897656 202823753,202823934,2019-02-11 15:10:17,"Hoppe: >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (1993; 2006 2nd edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economics%20and%20Ethics%20of%20Private%20Property%20Studies%20in%20Political%20Economy%20and%20Philosophy_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline (2015) https://mises.org/system/tdf/A%20Short%20History%20of%20Man%20%E2%80%94%20Progress%20and%20Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document >Democracy—The God That Failed (2001) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (1988; 2010 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document >From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy (2014) https://mises.org/system/tdf/From%20Aristocracy%20to%20Monarchy%20to%20Democracy_Hoppe_Text%202014.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Myth of National Defense: Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production (2003) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Myth%20of%20National%20Defense%2C%20The%20Essays%20on%20the%20Theory%20and%20History%20of%20Security%20Production_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Private Production of Defense (1998; 2006 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Private%20Production%20of%20Defense_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Economic Science and the Austrian Method (1995) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economic%20Science%20and%20the%20Austrian%20Method_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >What Must Be Done (2009) https://mises.org/system/tdf/What%20Must%20Be%20Done_7.pdf?file=1&type=document",,Anonymous,1531307942390.png,BXMLm7rNXr8lfVa50gE8XQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549897817 202823753,202824106,2019-02-11 15:12:50,bump,,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549897970 202823753,202824698,2019-02-11 15:21:21,">>202823753 Get in here >>>/bant/7479981",,Anonymous,,,,Catalonia,1549898481 202823753,202824817,2019-02-11 15:22:51,">>202823753 Executing marxists violates the NAP",,Anonymous,,,CL,Chile,1549898571 202823753,202825053,2019-02-11 15:26:07,">>202824817 >implying the existence of marxists in your territory doesn't violate the NAP",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549898767 202823753,202826103,2019-02-11 15:41:24,">>202824817 Self-defense doesn't violate the NAP.",,Anonymous,,,RU,Russian Federation,1549899684 202823753,202826347,2019-02-11 15:45:07,">>202826103 this based vlad",,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1549899907 202823753,202826672,2019-02-11 15:49:40,">>202825053 >>202826103 Ancap is not a social system because it denies society itself, a world where every corporation behaves like a drug cartel is a complete destruction of civilization, justice and freedom",,Anonymous,,,CL,Chile,1549900180 202823753,202827362,2019-02-11 15:56:22,">>202823753 How can it be a voluntary society, when your survival is depended on the dictates of the market? how will it make sure I'm not taken advantage or prevent me from taking advantage of someone els, someone is always going to be exploited , to do business is to exploit other, which is in that sense an act of violence which violates the NAP.",,Anonymous,CtWAQyMXYAEneMV.jpg,VmNn4nxd1XMsRS6G+SAS3g==,,Kekistani,1549900582 202823753,202827417,2019-02-11 15:57:03,">>202826103 Based and redpilled",,Anonymous,,,NO,Norway,1549900623 202823753,202827497,2019-02-11 15:58:09,>>202824817,,Anonymous,318.jpg,/PebJ87pdCxP73PY80S0lw==,GB,United Kingdom,1549900689 202823753,202827635,2019-02-11 16:00:07,">NAP >Worth anything when the enemy stronger than you >Going to be adhered to when there is something to gain from eradicating you Only way it works is if the other party decides killing you is worth less than taking a cut out of everything you own Almost known as... Taxes >Inb4 WAAHHH THAT'S WRONG!",,Anonymous,1491002800996.jpg,veLYAnx72JdkVfSn3MV3Og==,GB,United Kingdom,1549900807 202823753,202827684,2019-02-11 16:00:52,">>202826672 Be quiet Chile or they'll stage another coup and send jews to fuck you over with neolibertarianism.",,Anonymous,,,DE,Germany,1549900852 202823753,202827792,2019-02-11 16:02:27,">>202823753 Just leaving this here",,Anonymous,cohencidenceancap.jpg,8ENyRvBDibHjTXFPq9cobQ==,,Nazi,1549900947 202823753,202827824,2019-02-11 16:02:59,">>202823753 Nazbol is the superioir idelogy. If you don't get rid of capitalism you will end up right back where we are now. Mega corps controlling everything and letting browns come in en masse for cheap labor.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549900979 202823753,202827872,2019-02-11 16:03:40,">>202823934 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0cwAfa2-tQ&t=98s Fucking kikes all of you",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549901020 202823753,202827921,2019-02-11 16:04:11,">>202827824 This but unironically.",,Anonymous,kiest-communisten-copy.jpg,a+U1PdfVDSySy1VPOE2QSQ==,DE,Germany,1549901051 202823753,202828447,2019-02-11 16:11:34,">>202827824 Agreed they will work for a kike paying them 8$ an hour to pay another kike for their mortgage to then pay another kike for their student loans... National Socialism is the way forward the unemployed youth will have mandatory 6 month work periods to build roads, schools, state buildings, statues and make their communities beautiful to not just show them true labor but tie them to their nation and land this applies to all unemployed youth whether they are born into a great family or a common one. We will give the unemployed father that have been unemployed the longest jobs first, we will make our nations productive working to make their nation greater by either central planning, capitalism, or a third position approach whichever benefits the volk the most. We will get rid of Interest loans and usury and it will not matter who is employee and employer and longer it will only matter who produces for their volk and if you are a parasite you will not exist for very long. We will care for the common man, and the leaders we will make our nations great for our volk.",,Anonymous,natsocial.jpg,H9aOaW7a2Wq+F0+b7wxM3g==,,Nazi,1549901494 202823753,202828616,2019-02-11 16:13:57,">>202826672 Corporation is a sociological term. It's a group of people united by a common goal. (((Corporation))) is a state-mandated form of property. AnCaps don't deny society. You do when you say that people can't cooperate without daddy government's boot up their asses. AnCaps don't want all the civilized institutions gone, they want them demonopolized. Man, what would we ever do if politicians weren't robbing us of half of our wealth and give back 10% in useful things, 20% in benefits for lazy niggers and 70% in useless or outright harmful shit. >expectations: BASED benevolent fascist government uses tax money for infrastucture, nationalist propaganda and natalist policies >reality: leftists in the govenment push poz shit and spend your money on aid for Israel and third world shitholes while forbidding you to from white-only communities",,Anonymous,1547826255076.jpg,sUQXzQAH8t6c0DXj3Lug6A==,RU,Russian Federation,1549901637 202823753,202828696,2019-02-11 16:15:06,">>202823934 >>202823753",,Anonymous,(((LibertyOp))).jpg,2OGe65FrO8l5PTB1m6Z8oA==,,Nazi,1549901706 202823753,202828727,2019-02-11 16:15:32,">>202828447 >We will have child labor! >For the adults.. Forced labor too! Truly an utopia.",,Anonymous,,,CL,Chile,1549901732 202823753,202828826,2019-02-11 16:16:48,">>202828727 >We will have child labor Strawman kike No I said unemployed youth reffering to those who have recently graduated from high school and have not worked dumb fuck.",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549901808 202823753,202828829,2019-02-11 16:16:48,">>202827824 The only avenues the parasite kikes have to influence our societies are those of the State's creation. Rid us of the State and the empires of salt and sand will crumble. A quick definition here for future conversation: the State is any aggression backed regional monopoly of the involuntary provision of any goods and services. Any organization falling within these lines is considered an enemy of liberty. Any organization which exists because of these entities or deals with them for their own gain is considered an enemy of liberty. Plutocrats and politicians, parasites alike, deserve the rope. Those complicit in their parasitism do not deserve the world the capable can erect for themselves and their loved ones. Degeneracy is controlled through horizontal mechanisms. Those who are undesirable do not get a free ride when face to face with the consequences of their actions. HIV medication research is not society's burden, or is the burden of the filth that engage in the kinds of behavior which get you infected. Drug addict rehabilitation is not society's burden. It is the burden of the local communal group/family which cares for the lost soul and the addict himself. Filthy behavior in general is pushed to the edges of society, delegating then to the underclass they rightfully belong in, rather than giving them free reign to play games with Satan and still reap the fruits of those who spend their time wisely. Paleo libertarian anarcho capitalism is the white man's ultimate form. We do not need institutions filled with rats to guide us towards our destiny.",,Anonymous,Merchant_Reality_is_a_simulation.jpg,O2XyeFjKzEBFvjlr6A0RKg==,US,United States,1549901808 202823753,202828968,2019-02-11 16:18:42,">>202828727 >For the adults.. Forced labor too! Giving the Unemployed Fathers and family men jobs >the horror >they can feed their family >buy cars & contribute to the economy >we gotta shoah this dowwwwn.",,Anonymous,unemployment.gif,kvtNL07fMxHaoTiLJE8JfA==,,Nazi,1549901922 202823753,202829052,2019-02-11 16:19:50,">>202828826 >implying you wouldnt go that low for the good of The Nation™ We already knows how this ends fuck off",,Anonymous,,,CL,Chile,1549901990 202823753,202829310,2019-02-11 16:23:06,">>202829052 That's exactly how it occured in the German Natsoc society unemployed recently graduated youth were given 6 month work periods to make their societies beautiful and tie them to the land >Neets sitting on ass doing nothing >given work >oh no this is terrible we gotta shoah this noooooooowwww",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549902186 202823753,202829494,2019-02-11 16:25:17,">>202829052 Oh my gooooooooddddd someone call the kike ministry of defense they aren't playing playstation they're making their nations beautiful",,Anonymous,thehorror.jpg,NfScYJWoj/fsFygh75bxLA==,,Nazi,1549902317 202823753,202829505,2019-02-11 16:25:24,">>202828968 >>202829310 Slavery lowers unemployment to 0% what a great system amrite. Your thinking is obsolete by a century",,Anonymous,,,CL,Chile,1549902324 202823753,202829576,2019-02-11 16:26:23,">>202829505 oh no",,Anonymous,(((ohno))).jpg,nbZywzcpjWSEsyXsPoV45w==,,Nazi,1549902383 202823753,202829706,2019-02-11 16:28:01,">>202829505 The hoooooorrroor giving unemployed homeless people wages and jobs the horror",,Anonymous,Bruttosozialprodukt_im_dt._Reich_1925-1939.svg.png,5qeoIUl9++msOG6ZQvCMrQ==,,Nazi,1549902481 202823753,202830040,2019-02-11 16:32:01,>>202823753,,Anonymous,capitalism.jpg,fu+GY+CBsexp8kBCEKevZA==,,Fascist,1549902721 202823753,202830173,2019-02-11 16:33:35,">>202829505 Gotta stop those ""slaves"" from having the most kids they've ever had in decades so they don't get replaced by muslims and brownies right kike?",,Anonymous,9f9243fe26c64c379a561158ab03f3b1c469a4ddb574280ae35309e4a949d9b3.jpg,PNCfjqdNXpX/Q+2CoViceQ==,,Nazi,1549902815 202823753,202830262,2019-02-11 16:34:37,">>202829505 >Your thinking is obsolete by a century",,Anonymous,(((shutitdown)))).jpg,Jo0WLfBuGlgOjpurx0fGgw==,,Nazi,1549902877 202823753,202830423,2019-02-11 16:36:45,The absolute horror getting away from usury and debt speculation the horror,,Anonymous,fuckingcommunistsrightancaps.jpg,Nfj3kBrU8afzlPfP0VJlaw==,,Nazi,1549903005 202823753,202830690,2019-02-11 16:40:00,">>202829505 >We already knows how this ends fuck off Yeah we do, the most economic growth during the great depression, unemployment going to near 0, and the Volk benefiting by not having to deal with usury and kikes like you.",,Anonymous,nationalsocialism.jpg,lnMRcQEOYyLQqutcSNkkiQ==,,Nazi,1549903200 202823753,202830797,2019-02-11 16:41:09,">>202830262 Your system gives high school kids labor, ours gives them Fortnite and porn. Guess who sticks more with the public. You are deluded by a nationalist romanticism, I do not care because you are already dead clinging to revisionism. The future belongs to the 'kikes' as you say",,Anonymous,,,CL,Chile,1549903269 202823753,202831041,2019-02-11 16:43:45,">>202830797 >Your system gives high school kids labor, ours gives them Fortnite and porn. Guess who sticks more with the public. So my system benefits society yours gives a chinese company more wealth... what a good argument. >You are deluded by a nationalist romanticism, I do not care because you are already dead clinging to revisionism. The future belongs to the 'kikes' as you say Shut up juden you got btfo go ask your moshie supervisor for some better arguments.",,Anonymous,aristotle.jpg,gtyZyKeJReMHwiw3IkSSHQ==,,Nazi,1549903425 202823753,202831203,2019-02-11 16:45:52,,,Anonymous,volk.jpg,95bSuOrH40gETXkWMbgj7g==,,Nazi,1549903552 202823753,202831406,2019-02-11 16:48:44,">>202830797 >, I do not care because you are already dead clinging to revisionism >The future belongs to the 'kikes' as you say The day of the rope will come for you jew",,Anonymous,(((theywillpay))).png,adb/8LGDA10oHyM+6A0/Tg==,,Nazi,1549903724 202823753,202831601,2019-02-11 16:51:15,">>202831203 >complaining that an economic system doesn't care about things outside of economics Capitalism's problem is that the ideological framework it's supposed to be situated in has decayed. It needs to be revived and evolved.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549903875 202823753,202831956,2019-02-11 16:56:40,">>202831601 >Capitalism's problem is that the ideological framework it's supposed to be situated in has decayed. It needs to be revived and evolved This is why Nation Socialism is the way forward it uses capitalism where it benefits the volk, and central planning where it benefits the volk neither are allowed to become parasitic & the only aim will be to benefit the people not the rich elite that will import migrants to lower wages to seek a higher profit.jpeg Or do you prefer your culture, race, nation and Iq drop until there is nothing left but tendies and fortnite like that moshie agent wants.",,Anonymous,Valhalla.jpg,Obzy9FHGG4KiEW3NjYymjw==,,Nazi,1549904200 202823753,202832917,2019-02-11 17:09:27,">>202831956 >This is why Nation Socialism is the way forward No, it's not, because it's the autistic retard version of Fascism, and fascism is a shit ideology in the first place. As I said, the ideology which serves as capitalism's proper context needs to be revived, not abandoned. >it uses capitalism where it benefits the volk If you think I'm not going to notice you suddenly switching from ""capitalism bad"" to this, you're sorely mistaken. >neither are allowed to become parasitic & the only aim will be to benefit the people not the rich elite that will import migrants to lower wages to seek a higher profit >Or do you prefer your culture, race, nation and Iq drop until there is nothing left but tendies and fortnite like that moshie agent wants. Absurd dichotomy. We don't need National Socialism to curb the excesses of capitalism.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549904967 202823753,202833343,2019-02-11 17:15:18,">>202832917 >autistic retard version of Fascism Seems like you've never looked into national socialism nerd >f you think I'm not going to notice you suddenly switching from ""capitalism bad"" to this, you're sorely mistaken. >>202828447 Look here goy, ""capitalism"" as it stand is bad under national socialism it is not why??? because the only goal is not to seek profit the primary goal is to seek benefit for their volk Read that image I posted faggot >neither are allowed to become parasitic & the only aim will be to benefit the people not the rich elite that will import migrants to lower wages to seek a higher profit Exactly what happens under free market capitalism, and how we got here today. >Absurd dichotomy. We don't need National Socialism to curb the excesses of capitalism. So you'd rather have unemployed high school graduates eating tendies and playing fortnite instead of making roads, statues, buildings, and making your community beautiful which ties them to the land and makes their nation better >>202830797 Sounds a lot like this moshie agent who wants kids playing fortnite and being NEET's",,Anonymous,readup.png,UXkZ0Rmis4iE2kicVPiQ2Q==,,Nazi,1549905318 202823753,202833445,2019-02-11 17:16:37,">>202823753 >Corporate Feudalism General Fixed it for you.",,Anonymous,LibertarianismIsJewish.jpg,B9SqshDMkcPy4ksjovurSw==,US,United States,1549905397 202823753,202833553,2019-02-11 17:17:53,">>202832917 >capitalism bad na bud economic exploitation is bad >>>202831203 >>202830423 read what I post next time kike, and keep supporting speculation and usury you're showing your hand",,Anonymous,jewishsubversion.jpg,rEk/5OmjXpvtfizKaljH+w==,,Nazi,1549905473 202823753,202833641,2019-02-11 17:19:03,">>202833445 who wouldn't want a less accountable government??",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549905543 202823753,202833671,2019-02-11 17:19:28,">>202833445 Exactly what occurs, ancaps can't even define their ""anarchy"" without it becoming monarchy",,Anonymous,666mossadagent.jpg,SvdPu9W7neyrF52Kqv/gSA==,,Nazi,1549905568 202823753,202833861,2019-02-11 17:22:01,>>202833641,,Anonymous,rockefeller.jpg,bSSfob8UbUsblZ+Ahm1C/Q==,,Nazi,1549905721 202823753,202834071,2019-02-11 17:24:26,>>202823753,,Anonymous,1531950860435.png,HHULeUtWGXWzu3SdUfgSLQ==,US,United States,1549905866 202823753,202834126,2019-02-11 17:25:07,>>202834071,,Anonymous,1531951709002.png,Nr6kuuMF14Xe/fjOuMxSMQ==,US,United States,1549905907 202823753,202834173,2019-02-11 17:25:45,">>202833343 >Seems like you've never looked into national socialism nerd You not liking my analysis is irrelevant. >because the only goal is not to seek profit the primary goal is to seek benefit for their volk It's an economic system. Again, the problem is lack of proper constraint. >Exactly what happens under free market capitalism, and how we got here today. I'm not defending how things work today. >So you'd rather have unemployed high school graduates eating tendies and playing fortnite instead of making roads, statues, buildings, and making your community beautiful which ties them to the land and makes their nation better Yes, and that we should organizer our society along the lines of the lobsters. Stop being a disingenuous shit. We do not need NatSoc in order to fix this problem. That doesn't mean I support a corporatocracy based on bread and circuses, it means I support preventing that outcome with a method that isn't NatSoc.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1549905945 202823753,202834535,2019-02-11 17:30:31,">>202834173 >You not liking my analysis is irrelevant. Your analysis is completely irrelevant & sperg levels of autism >It's an economic system. Again, the problem is lack of proper constraint. This is why the state is there to enforce that these systems benefit their volk once again read some national socialism >I'm not defending how things work today. Yes you are, ""Yes, and that we should organizer our society along the lines of the lobsters."" You're a Juden Peterson faggot who needs to go clean your room and play fortnite. >Stop being a disingenuous shit. We do not need NatSoc in order to fix this problem. That doesn't mean I support a corporatocracy based on bread and circuses, it means I support preventing that outcome with a method that isn't NatSoc. Yes we do, you offer no solution that will not lead to jews taking control, and then destroying your race, culture, and history You don't care about these things you only want businesses to seek profit otherwise you wouldn't be on /ancap general/ you want your volk to fail so the elite bankers can rule.",,Anonymous,1549900476984.png,4hcK9FQ0MSkKDs9sPTxG0A==,,Nazi,1549906231 202823753,202834678,2019-02-11 17:32:22,">>202834173 Watch this video on why the National Socialist Economy works and then come back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTYvTj8Ss6g&list=LLsBe4j9hZ0SmO5RFZnzgPTg&index=20&t=2337s",,Anonymous,,,,Nazi,1549906342 202823753,202834852,2019-02-11 17:34:27,">live in pseudo ancap society >shills bait retards into wanting more of this",,Anonymous,,,IE,Ireland,1549906467 202823753,202835080,2019-02-11 17:37:12,">>202834852 We need more, what do you support slavery what are you a nazi? You wanna help unemployed fathers? You wanna make the unemployed NEET's work to benefit your society and not sit on their ass playing fortnite? What are you some sorta Naziiii I just wanna eat my tendies and watch porn",,Anonymous,freemarket.jpg,JDVJNSrwC77/tjyGNq3YGg==,,Nazi,1549906632 202823753,202835913,2019-02-11 17:47:26,,,Anonymous,4chanancaps.jpg,hDrSz6JSFmO8Xn5ZL3puUw==,,Nazi,1549907246 203713422,203713422,2019-02-19 17:29:24,"Ancaps, Libertarians and Minarchists get in here GENERAL READING LIST (feel free to make suggestions to expand this list) >Basic Economics - Thomas Sowell https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/1b5b/8351b8e74885b976ae75ad605709b61b6ecb.pdf >The Law - Frédéric Bastiat http://www.liberalstudies.ca/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/thelaw.pdf >Free To Choose - Milton and Rose Friedman http://www.il-rs.org.br/site/biblioteca/docs/Friedman__Milton___Rose_-_Free_To_Choose_--_A_Personal_Statement.pdf >Nicomachean Ethics - Aristotle https://socserv2.socsci.mcmaster.ca/econ/ugcm/3ll3/aristotle/Ethics.pdf >Hayek’s The Constitution of Liberty - Eugene F. Miller http://iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Hayek's%20Constitution%20of%20Liberty.pdf >WHERE DO I MOVE IF I WANT LIBERTY??? America/Minarchists: New Hampshire (The Free State Project) https://www.fsp.org/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_State_Project Rest of the world/AnCaps: Liberland (Serbia/Croatia) https://liberland.org/en/about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland",/AC/ AnCap General - Rand Paul 2020 Edition,Anonymous,ancapol2.png,CGDIggvJVu97vWytatotzQ==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1550597364 203713422,203713624,2019-02-19 17:31:24,">>203713422 why would the first link not be anatomy of the state",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1550597484 203713422,203713829,2019-02-19 17:33:31,">>203713624 If you got the link i'll put it in >The Economics and Ethics of Private Property (1993; 2006 2nd edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economics%20and%20Ethics%20of%20Private%20Property%20Studies%20in%20Political%20Economy%20and%20Philosophy_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >A Short History of Man: Progress and Decline (2015) https://mises.org/system/tdf/A%20Short%20History%20of%20Man%20%E2%80%94%20Progress%20and%20Decline.pdf?file=1&type=document >Democracy—The God That Failed (2001) http://www.riosmauricio.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Hoppe_Democracy_The_God_That_Failed.pdf >A Theory of Socialism and Capitalism (1988; 2010 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Theory%20of%20Socialism%20and%20Capitalism%2C%20A_4.pdf?file=1&type=document >From Aristocracy, to Monarchy, to Democracy (2014) https://mises.org/system/tdf/From%20Aristocracy%20to%20Monarchy%20to%20Democracy_Hoppe_Text%202014.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Myth of National Defense: Essays on the Theory and History of Security Production (2003) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Myth%20of%20National%20Defense%2C%20The%20Essays%20on%20the%20Theory%20and%20History%20of%20Security%20Production_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >The Private Production of Defense (1998; 2006 edition) https://mises.org/system/tdf/The%20Private%20Production%20of%20Defense_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >Economic Science and the Austrian Method (1995) https://mises.org/system/tdf/Economic%20Science%20and%20the%20Austrian%20Method_3.pdf?file=1&type=document >What Must Be Done (2009) https://mises.org/system/tdf/What%20Must%20Be%20Done_7.pdf?file=1&type=document",,Anonymous,28521bd12b231794f5e470c56(...).jpg,lQf97SMk6d9hUmGBTyeTgw==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1550597611 203713422,203714247,2019-02-19 17:38:09,bump stop replying to shitty slide threads,,Anonymous,,,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1550597889 203713422,203714386,2019-02-19 17:39:29,">>203713829 https://mises.org/sites/default/files/Anatomy%20of%20the%20State_3.pdf should be the top link - it's a pithy distillation of how ridiculous and malign government is if you passively accept that states exist as a ""necessary evil"" to ""service mankind and make civilization possible"", it's much harder for a whole lot of libertarianism to click because freedom gets conflated with Mad Max and chaos",,Praceteom,,,US,United States,1550597969 203713422,203714620,2019-02-19 17:41:51,">>203714386 cheers",,Anonymous,1535942336593.jpg,jfR2zhwOcNJyzdgRqeCOUg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1550598111 203713422,203715029,2019-02-19 17:46:30,">>203713422 >Rand Paul 2020 Edition If you think they were shilling hard against Trump, just wait and see what they will do to the Constitutionally based Rand Paul.",,Anonymous,,,US,United States,1550598390 203713422,203715259,2019-02-19 17:48:48,">>203715029 yep",,Anonymous,Quotation-Ron-Paul-Foreig(...).jpg,nI/Jgjz0QqiBcfnz8sevIg==,,Anarcho-Capitalist,1550598528