[00:02] Sub-056 (P1): But how do I know I need to do that again?

[00:05] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: yeah

[00:05] Moderator: Ah, okay.

[00:05] Sub-056 (P1) [bc]: okay.

[00:25] Moderator: the printed ones sorry for the confusion so just the printed ones yeah and thank you very much so thank you let's just talk about the task one so in this phase you are part of a hiring committee

[00:26] Sub-057 (P2): The ones here, or the?

[00:29] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: yeah

[00:29] Sub-056 (P1): Oh.

[00:29] Sub-057 (P2) [bc]: Oh,
[00:29] Sub-057 (P2) [bc]: okay.

[00:50] Moderator: and you will be evaluating three applicants that applied for a role at GM.
[00:55] Moderator: The position is for supporting AI adoption and transformation across different departments.
[01:03] Moderator: So you will get some more information about the role itself and also receive some information about the candidates on your tablets.
[01:11] Moderator: The first phase will be you silently read the information on your tablet for around one minute.
[01:19] Moderator: And then you will have seven minutes to discuss among yourself what is your opinion about the candidates and come up with final candidates as the one you will select.

[01:34] Sub-058 (P4): If you don't have any question about the task itself, I can send you the information.
[01:40] Sub-058 (P4): Good.
[01:42] Sub-058 (P4): So you have the information on your roll call.

[03:03] Moderator: now we can discuss the information that you have but please keep in mind that you are not allowed to read word by word from your information but you can summarize it rephrase it paraphrase it and share the information in another format the stage is yours
[03:24] Moderator: okay so um does anyone already have a favorite candidate from what you read from the profiles yeah i think all the three candidates are quite uh competent yeah and all three of them have like very different skills all together

[03:24] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: okay

[03:25] Sub-055 (P3) [bc]: okay

[03:35] Sub-056 (P1): Yeah, I think all those three candidates are quite competent.

[03:38] Sub-055 (P3) [bc]: yeah

[03:44] Sub-058 (P4): Yeah, I actually my least favorite is the first one, because I mean, that's very generic knowledge of project management and coordination in teams, and very limited knowledge of any IT systems, AI tools, which I am not saying that the person we would choose would have to be, you know, technically strong candidate when it comes to
[04:10] Sub-058 (P4): knowledge of AI and the different tools, but I do believe that some technical knowledge at least would be good to have and not to learn everything from scratch.

[04:29] Sub-055 (P3): I agree and also the role focuses mainly on implementing the AI tools across the different teams.
[04:38] Sub-055 (P3): So we have a candidate here who has been on the toes about explaining why AI is necessary and how to do and he has also been facilitating between different teams to get stuffs onboarded.
[04:56] Sub-055 (P3): So looking into the role and the explanation, candidate C has that kind of an inclination, but then candidate B is also very technically sound here.
[05:10] Sub-055 (P3): So he has a strong hold on Python and other languages.

[05:16] Sub-058 (P4): I guess the question is if the person will be more of a in a management role right where they need to coordinate different stakeholders have certain understanding but be more of a people person right who will explain will have patience will tackle resistance whenever
[05:39] Sub-058 (P4): we will do the rollout or if we really need the technical skills which we already have in the company and i guess those people will be the ones uh doing the the development so i i would say we also need more of a people person

[05:56] Sub-055 (P3) [bc]: yes

[05:57] Moderator: I definitely agree.

[05:57] Sub-057 (P2) [bc]: definitely

[05:57] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: definitely

[05:59] Sub-057 (P2): It's what level are you in?

[05:59] Moderator: It's what level are you in, because it definitely requires different skills.
[06:01] Moderator: Because it definitely requires different skills.

[06:02] Sub-057 (P2) [bc]: definitely
[06:04] Sub-057 (P2): And some are, of course, a bit more technical and heavy.

[06:07] Moderator: So is it what level are we at?
[06:12] Moderator: And if it's, of course, the more people one, then we don't need the technical ones because then you already have a lot of good employees that can do that element.

[06:24] Sub-056 (P1): I would say for me, the information provided is not sufficient for me to make the decision.
[06:32] Sub-056 (P1): Because for me, I think the most important characteristic for this role is this person needs to be very curious.
[06:39] Sub-056 (P1): He or she needs to be very good at learning new things, curious about everything.
[06:47] Sub-056 (P1): There's something surrounding him or her.
[06:52] Sub-056 (P1): He would like to spend a lot of time to investigate and look deep into the details and figure out what's going on and master that piece.
[07:06] Sub-056 (P1): I think that's very important to be capable of this role.

[07:17] Sub-055 (P3): We don't have that particular characteristic mentioned anywhere among any of the candidates.
[07:23] Sub-055 (P3): But then again, the candidate C has had a past experience of a similar role.
[07:29] Sub-055 (P3): So...

[07:32] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: yeah

[07:32] Sub-055 (P3): He has already helped with adopting new tools and processes in different teams and he also has like a strong knowledge of the why's.
[07:44] Sub-055 (P3): Why should we be transforming or adopting something.

[07:50] Sub-058 (P4): Yeah, I agree that, you know, in ideal world, we would probably have space to get some references from previous employers or, you know, had a chance to speak more with the candidates.
[08:02] Sub-058 (P4): But based only on the information we have, I would also vote for candidate C because for me, that's the strongest candidate.

[08:12] Sub-056 (P1): But I guess we don't have to vote for now.
[08:14] Sub-056 (P1): We don't have to decide.

[08:15] Sub-055 (P3): But we have to decide by... We have to decide.

[08:17] Sub-056 (P1): We have to.
[08:18] Sub-056 (P1): We have to decide.

[08:18] Sub-058 (P4): Yeah, there.

[08:19] Sub-056 (P1) [bc]: Okay.
[08:19] Sub-056 (P1): Based on.
[08:20] Sub-056 (P1): Okay.
[08:20] Sub-056 (P1) [bc]: Okay.

[08:20] Sub-058 (P4): Yeah.

[08:22] Sub-056 (P1): All right.
[08:23] Sub-056 (P1): We have to.

[08:23] Sub-055 (P3): and also if we go by your point candidates he has already had like his colleagues saying that he helped them understand the stuff so we can also talk about those references here what do you think patricia

[08:37] Sub-056 (P1): Then I will say I don't have strong opinion on any of those.
[08:42] Sub-056 (P1): Everyone is just random to me.

[08:46] Sub-058 (P4): That is right.

[08:49] Moderator: What do you think, Patricia?

[08:51] Sub-057 (P2): No, I guess when I look at the candidacy, I like that there's been some corporations with other functions because it does require a lot of stakeholder management and this seems to be a good element to it.
[09:08] Sub-057 (P2): And also the way to adapt quickly, that would definitely also be a good element to it.
[09:26] Sub-057 (P2) [bc]: definitely

[09:30] Sub-058 (P4): I'd love to give a chance to candidate A, but unfortunately we can't meet them.

[09:39] Sub-056 (P1): Are we agreed?
[09:40] Sub-056 (P1) [bc]: Yeah,

[09:40] Sub-058 (P4): It seems like...

[09:40] Sub-055 (P3): Yeah, it's three to one, yeah.

[09:42] Sub-058 (P4): I mean, you don't care, apparently.

[09:46] Sub-055 (P3): Exactly.

[09:47] Sub-058 (P4): And we agree.

[09:51] Sub-055 (P3): Exactly.

[09:53] Sub-056 (P1): Maybe it doesn't matter whom to choose.

[09:56] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: No,

[09:57] Sub-056 (P1): It's just the conversation that matters.

[09:59] Sub-055 (P3): Yeah, that's true.

[10:00] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: Yeah.

[10:02] Moderator: Then please, one of you, fill in the candidate that you selected.

[10:10] Sub-055 (P3): So, Fan, why don't you do that?

[10:12] Sub-056 (P1): Yeah, I can do that.

[10:13] Sub-057 (P2) [bc]: No,

[10:13] Sub-056 (P1): Can they see?

[10:14] Sub-058 (P4): You did it.

[10:15] Sub-055 (P3) [bc]: Okay.

[10:15] Moderator: You did it?
[10:16] Moderator: Okay.

[10:16] Sub-056 (P1) [bc]: Okay.

[10:17] Moderator: I was fast.

[10:18] Sub-058 (P4): That's good.

[10:20] Moderator: Perfect.
[10:21] Moderator: Thank you very much.

[10:22] Sub-058 (P4): Now we are done with this task and we have the post-task questionnaire.

[10:28] Moderator: So please answer the questionnaire and then we can have a short break.

[11:02] Sub-057 (P2) [bc]: Yeah,

[11:02] Sub-056 (P1) [bc]: Yeah,

[11:02] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: yeah

[11:08] Sub-055 (P3): Yes.
[11:13] Sub-055 (P3): Okay.
[11:17] Sub-055 (P3): Oh, so we have to answer that still?

[11:19] Sub-058 (P4) [bc]: yeah

[11:19] Sub-055 (P3): Yeah, I think for the sake of the questionnaire.

[13:02] Sub-058 (P4): Can I ask you, did we already have different information at this task as well?

[13:11] Moderator: Okay.

[13:11] Sub-055 (P3) [bc]: Okay.
[13:12] Sub-055 (P3): That's interesting.

[13:28] Moderator: Sorry.

[13:38] Sub-057 (P2): Oh, yes.
[13:40] Sub-057 (P2): Yes, I'll try.

[13:42] Moderator: Thank you very much.

[13:45] Sub-055 (P3): You'll have to do the other side.
[13:47] Sub-055 (P3): Yeah, a little more.

[13:50] Moderator: Yeah, that's fine.

[13:50] Sub-055 (P3) [bc]: Yeah,

[13:52] Sub-058 (P4): gonna break the casual style you have going on there

[14:41] Moderator: Now we're going to have a break and whenever you're ready, we can go.
