[00:01] Sub-052 (P1): Do you think we will finish in time, or should I?

[00:03] Moderator: Yeah, we'll finish on the book time.

[00:06] Sub-052 (P1): Perfect, because I have a meeting straight after, otherwise I would move it.
[00:10] Sub-052 (P1): Okay, good, good.

[00:12] Moderator: I have five minutes, so we should be able to get to the B building.
[00:12] Moderator: I have five minutes, so.
[00:29] Moderator: Thank you.
[00:31] Moderator: In task two, you will be talking together to decide about a workshop that is happening inside GN.
[00:43] Moderator: And you need to decide on the topic, a topic for workshop and also a format for that.
[00:52] Moderator: Each of you will receive some private role and some priorities and preferences.
[00:58] Moderator: and then you will have some time to discuss and negotiate with each other and in within i think seven minutes eight minutes you should come up with one topic and one format for the workshop
[01:21] Moderator: Good.
[01:22] Moderator: If you don't have any question, I will send you your priorities and also the discussion starts together with it.

[01:28] Sub-052 (P1): Okay.

[01:31] Moderator: Yes.
[01:32] Moderator: Please don't share your priorities with each other and your time has started.
[01:53] Moderator: And these are available topics on the screen and available formats.

[02:43] Sub-052 (P1): Okay.
[02:49] Sub-052 (P1): Should we start with the topic maybe?

[02:51] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[02:52] Sub-052 (P1): No, I don't know.
[02:55] Sub-052 (P1): Maybe just that starting point.
[02:57] Sub-052 (P1): I don't know, what do you guys think about the...
[03:07] Sub-052 (P1): They're all really good topics.

[03:09] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.
[03:12] Sub-054 (P3): All right, there's a strong need.
[03:15] Sub-054 (P3): No, I wouldn't say need.
[03:17] Sub-054 (P3): There's a strong drive from management right now about AI for productivity in daily tasks.
[03:22] Sub-054 (P3): Like you could hear Igor talking about, we have to use AI.
[03:27] Sub-054 (P3): So maybe it doesn't hurt to have one on that topic.

[03:31] Sub-053 (P2): Also that we just had to hire someone from the previous task, right?
[03:35] Sub-053 (P2): Within AI.

[03:37] Sub-054 (P3): Yes.
[03:39] Sub-054 (P3): That could be, yeah, yeah.

[03:41] Sub-004 (P4): I feel like we should maybe prioritize some of the other topics.
[03:49] Sub-004 (P4): Like right now, we just rolled out the new day commitments.
[03:52] Sub-004 (P4): So maybe go down to some of the lower ones.
[03:56] Sub-004 (P4): Also with all the change happening, like how to manage stress and workload at work.
[04:02] Sub-004 (P4): Like maybe focus a bit more on that instead of all of this AI focus we have right now than actually prioritize the people we have here.
[04:09] Sub-004 (P4): And like our work culture.

[04:14] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, I think it's an important one with managing the stress that can come out of this transformation that JN will go through.
[04:25] Sub-052 (P1): And I know there's a lot of talk about AI, but in effect, what can also enhance productivity is people feeling well at work.
[04:35] Sub-052 (P1): Every study suggests that.
[04:37] Sub-052 (P1): I'm also leaning towards if I would have to choose one of these topics, it would probably be stress and workload management.

[04:49] Sub-053 (P2): I think there might be a way to include that in the way we work across teams as well.
[04:54] Sub-053 (P2): Because I think, especially for my job, you need to talk to a lot of different departments and explain what are you doing and everything.
[05:05] Sub-053 (P2): And sometimes it's hard to get an answer.
[05:08] Sub-053 (P2): which can also create some stress and workload that no one really catches, right?
[05:14] Sub-053 (P2): So being able to work better across teams might also be able to alleviate some of the stress that people can experience with the workload as well.

[05:24] Sub-004 (P4): Absolutely.
[05:26] Sub-004 (P4): I just feel like right now with the changes happening, especially it might be better to focus on personal stuff and how much we have ourselves within Teams before cross-sectional, also knowing not who will move and who won't.
[05:41] Sub-004 (P4): So I lean to more distress and workload.

[05:46] Sub-052 (P1): I can see both for me, yeah.

[05:49] Sub-054 (P3): It's a good point, but I could say that we have spent so much time on changing about basically everyday work in GN and how we change in GN and all that, that we are just basically behind on the first two topics.
[06:04] Sub-054 (P3): Like, I mean, we've been two years doing the 1GN, and I think right now it's about time to just, okay, catch up a little bit also on what we are missing.
[06:14] Sub-054 (P3): Because right now, we are basically consumers of AI, but we are not really delivering AI as a product.
[06:22] Sub-054 (P3): And the only way people understand that we can make a product would be that we become way and way more connected to this technology.
[06:29] Sub-054 (P3): And I agree that you can use that technology to release some of the workload that we have right now and the frictions that we have between teams, for example, if it's well integrated.
[06:38] Sub-054 (P3): So yeah, that's how I would see it, of course.

[06:56] Sub-004 (P4): I mean, in my team specifically, we need to manage all of the workload we have personally within our teams before we start talking cross-sectional.
[07:09] Sub-004 (P4): I don't know how much you guys know about indirect procurement, but we're still a bit immature.
[07:12] Sub-004 (P4): So...
[07:13] Sub-004 (P4): I feel like managing stress and workload at work would be relevant across everyone despite maturity level.
[07:23] Sub-004 (P4): So that might be a focus right now where we already have a lot of AI focus.
[07:27] Sub-004 (P4): At least that's what I've noticed since I started that I've signed up for a few of the of the workshops that's been there and it's already happening a lot.

[07:35] Moderator: But the whole like managing stress and workload.

[07:38] Sub-004 (P4): i'm just thinking with the second one the second one like it might be if you have like a team where you have to work or gather a lot of data or work with it i don't know how it's structured but it's not true it needs to apply for all of gm of course but other teams work or like understand your workload might also help with the stress

[07:38] Sub-053 (P2): I'm just thinking with the second one.
[07:42] Sub-053 (P2): Like it might be if you have like a team where you have to work or gather a lot of data or work with it.

[07:56] Moderator: yeah yeah but other teams work or like understand your workload might also help with the stress like especially with timelines and like okay we have all these tasks maybe we can yeah divide them or at least the teams you work with might get a better understanding of when to push you and when to not and stuff like that if that makes sense yeah
[08:10] Moderator: Or at least the teams we work with might get a better understanding of when to push you and when to not and stuff like that.

[08:22] Sub-054 (P3): Does that make sense?
[08:24] Sub-054 (P3): No, but it's good.
[08:26] Sub-054 (P3): Number two.

[08:26] Sub-052 (P1): Okay, so I think we have to maybe move on a bit.

[08:30] Sub-004 (P4): Yeah, yeah, we have one minute left.

[08:30] Sub-052 (P1): All right, so we're leaning towards number two.

[08:33] Sub-054 (P3): And...

[08:38] Sub-052 (P1): I'm not a fan of the old-school one-way communication things.

[08:38] Sub-054 (P3): I mean, I'm fine with number two.

[08:41] Sub-004 (P4): Let's discuss formats first.

[08:52] Sub-052 (P1): I definitely think the interactive ones are more engaging and I think people will also get more out of it.

[08:52] Sub-054 (P3): You mean the first two?

[09:03] Sub-052 (P1): All science suggests that as well.

[09:06] Sub-004 (P4): I agree.
[09:30] Sub-004 (P4): I feel the opposite with all of those things you have to go through on workday.
[09:33] Sub-004 (P4): It's like, I don't know how much I actually take away from it.

[09:37] Sub-054 (P3): But at least you have the chance to take away when you have the time and the capacity and the focus, right?
[09:43] Sub-054 (P3): It's up to you.
[09:44] Sub-054 (P3): I mean, when they tell me, okay, this day I have to do this and it's like, okay.
[09:47] Sub-054 (P3): And then all of a sudden it happened that I had a tough week and it doesn't help.
[09:53] Sub-054 (P3): And then people are like, okay, now I have the time, I know Friday or whatever, when you're like, okay, today is the day that I do my time sheet and I do my workday stuff and that's it.
[10:01] Sub-054 (P3): So you can organize yourself.
[10:03] Sub-054 (P3): And I agree that maybe in the future we can say, okay, now you have some background and then you can come together.
[10:08] Sub-054 (P3): But just facing something new altogether, you will still have to spend the time yourself.

[10:14] Sub-004 (P4): I just feel like knowing that something is up ahead in the calendar, you focus on that for those one, two hours.
[10:20] Sub-004 (P4): It doesn't even have to be that long, but it's engaging and you're like fully in the moment, like in person more than... A compromise could be like having, if it's like a lecture or something scheduled in the calendar.

[10:43] Sub-052 (P1): It's just, I don't know, I just feel like if we have to talk about how to work better across teams, I guess you solve that topic by talking in workshops with the teams rather than having one giving a lecture about how to work in your team.

[10:56] Sub-004 (P4): True.

[11:00] Sub-052 (P1): I think that would be way more engaging because there's no size fits all in this.
[11:05] Sub-052 (P1): It really depends on the team, right?

[11:07] Sub-004 (P4): That's true.

[11:08] Sub-052 (P1): So, if you had a workshop with your team, you could really manage those points of friction better, I guess.

[11:16] Sub-054 (P3): It's fine.
[11:17] Sub-054 (P3): You just see the company going the same way it has been in the last five years.
[11:30] Sub-054 (P3): It's fine.
[11:30] Sub-054 (P3): It's fine.
[11:36] Sub-054 (P3): Okay.

[11:37] Moderator: Okay, so you have an agreement?

[11:42] Sub-004 (P4): Then we have a... We have a... We have a... We chose.

[11:45] Sub-052 (P1): We have a... We chose.
[11:46] Sub-052 (P1): Then please, why don't you fill in the... Would you do it again?
[11:51] Sub-052 (P1): Okay, so we work better across teams.

[11:58] Sub-004 (P4): Yeah.
[12:02] Sub-004 (P4): I guess so.
[12:04] Sub-004 (P4): Yeah.

[12:05] Sub-053 (P2): And then...
[12:07] Sub-053 (P2): Oh, was it lecture or cross-department workgroup?

[12:10] Sub-052 (P1): I think it was interactive workshop, right?
[12:14] Sub-052 (P1): Was it not?

[12:18] Sub-004 (P4): Yeah, one of the, yeah.

[12:19] Sub-052 (P1): all right okay okay if you have a cross department is fine yeah we can do that yeah cross and cross that's true it sounds sounds good yeah

[12:19] Sub-004 (P4): I don't know.
[12:24] Sub-004 (P4): Yeah.
[12:27] Sub-004 (P4): For me, they sound kind of similar.

[12:34] Sub-054 (P3): He has to be.
[12:35] Sub-054 (P3): He has to make it a line.

[12:39] Sub-004 (P4): Let's cross, cross.
[12:40] Sub-004 (P4): Yeah.
[12:43] Sub-004 (P4): Great.
[12:44] Sub-004 (P4): Okay.

[12:46] Moderator: Then this task is also finished.

[12:48] Sub-054 (P3): We are going to post that question there.

[12:48] Moderator: We are going to the post-test questionnaire and then we will have a break.

[12:58] Sub-054 (P3): Can we now talk about the...
[13:02] Sub-054 (P3): No, like, yeah, exactly.
[13:05] Sub-054 (P3): That's okay, no?
[13:08] Sub-054 (P3): Okay.
[13:10] Sub-054 (P3): All right.
[13:11] Sub-054 (P3): Then I will say that it was really hard to discuss this when I was seeing myself seeing this again as an employee and people discussing these things again.
[13:20] Sub-054 (P3): And I was like, really?
[13:24] Sub-054 (P3): So...
[13:31] Sub-054 (P3): Hmm.
[13:34] Sub-054 (P3): Hmm.

[13:46] Sub-052 (P1): you

[14:26] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.

[14:27] Sub-004 (P4): I think the camera is heating up a bit, I think.
[14:30] Sub-004 (P4): Is it?
[14:30] Sub-004 (P4): Okay, okay, that's supposed to happen.

[14:32] Sub-052 (P1): This one?

[14:32] Sub-004 (P4): Yeah.

[14:33] Sub-052 (P1): I thought there was some heat on there.

[14:34] Sub-004 (P4): Oh, okay.

[14:38] Sub-053 (P2): Because I feel really sweaty, like, in here.

[14:56] Sub-052 (P1): And you can have it, like, just under your head if you... Oh.
[15:01] Sub-052 (P1): That's... That's cool.
[15:03] Sub-052 (P1): It's not too bad.

[15:05] Sub-053 (P2): It's not too bad.

[15:06] Sub-052 (P1): A little bit heavy, though.

[15:06] Sub-054 (P3): No.

[15:07] Sub-053 (P2): It's fine.

[15:09] Sub-052 (P1): I'm happy I don't have to wear them for, like, three hours.
[15:13] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah.

[15:13] Moderator: I think maybe GN should...
[15:13] Moderator: Maybe GN should, the new GN should has its own glass.

[15:19] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah.

[15:19] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.
[15:21] Sub-054 (P3): You mean as a product?

[15:23] Sub-052 (P1): like smart glasses yeah maybe i don't know it's uh i know how that's going with the other companies yeah okay

[15:33] Sub-054 (P3): I mean, Meta is making quite a bit of money out of the Raven.
[15:39] Sub-054 (P3): But of course, it's not something maybe we see in the EU.
[15:43] Sub-054 (P3): But I think in the US, people don't mind so much to be recording everything.

[15:50] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, exactly.
[15:50] Sub-052 (P1): Maybe we have a bit more privacy here.
[15:54] Sub-052 (P1): Interesting.

[15:55] Sub-054 (P3): But what is the market asking for now?
[15:58] Sub-054 (P3): Do you see something, or you, if you are close to that?

[16:01] Sub-052 (P1): Low-end Bluetooth?

[16:02] Sub-054 (P3): Low-end Bluetooth.

[16:04] Sub-052 (P1): Yes.

[16:04] Sub-054 (P3): What is low-end?

[16:05] Sub-052 (P1): Like price-wise.
[16:07] Sub-052 (P1): So, like, you know, yeah.

[16:09] Sub-054 (P3): JBL.

[16:11] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, no, but like more in the enterprise space.

[16:13] Sub-054 (P3): Oh, really?
[16:14] Sub-054 (P3): Can I have the same, but half the price?

[16:17] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, or maybe they are just happy enough with stuff that's not premium in quality, but does the job, you know.

[16:22] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.

[16:24] Sub-052 (P1): Like some of our lower series, like E255, E65, these kind of things are selling quite well because they're cheap.

[16:32] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

[16:39] Sub-052 (P1): It's mostly Bluetooth, yeah.
[16:40] Sub-052 (P1): You really see a movement towards the lower price brackets over the years.
[16:47] Sub-052 (P1): So for some reason, that's a lot in demand.
[16:49] Sub-052 (P1): Of course, you make more margin by selling more expensive products, but if you sell a lot of the cheap stuff... Yeah, that's the flagship products, you can say.
[17:02] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, exactly.
[17:07] Sub-052 (P1): I heard rumors about the 3.45, but I don't know if that's true.
