[00:07] Moderator: Then we're moving to task one.
[00:15] Moderator: But before starting a task, I would like you to again look at the aim for a few seconds, the printed ones.
[00:27] Moderator: Perfect.
[00:29] Moderator: So in the first task, you are
[00:34] Moderator: a part of a hiring community which evaluate three applicants for a role in technology at GN, which is about supporting AI adoption and transformation across different departments.
[00:51] Moderator: You will get also some more information about the task itself, and you will receive some information about each applicant on your tablet.
[00:59] Moderator: The process is that you will have individual time, around one minute, to read the information about applicants silently, and then you will have seven minutes to discuss your opinion about them and finalize one candidate as the final candidate.
[01:24] Moderator: and so you just one thing that is important here is that you cannot read from your tablet information word by word but you can rephrase it summarize it or save in another kind of way whatever way you prefer if you don't have any questions i will send you the the evidence cards okay
[01:24] Moderator: and so you just one thing that is important here is that you cannot read from your tablet information word by word but you can rephrase it summarize it or say it in another kind of way in whatever way you prefer if you don't have any questions i will send you the the evidence cards

[01:48] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: okay

[03:06] Moderator: Perfect.

[03:09] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: No,

[03:09] Moderator: Now you have seven minutes.

[03:09] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: right.

[03:21] Moderator: Right.
[03:22] Moderator: And...

[03:28] Sub-054 (P3): So, I mean, I have three profiles and I guess you have the same ones.
[03:34] Sub-054 (P3): But I see one that is like a manager.
[03:37] Sub-054 (P3): I see basically like someone who is like, ah, okay, deadlines and project manager and stuff like that.
[03:43] Sub-054 (P3): Then one who is like a nerd who likes basically executing himself.
[03:48] Sub-054 (P3): And the other one is a good communicator.
[03:50] Sub-054 (P3): That's how I understood.
[03:51] Sub-054 (P3): Do you understand the name?

[03:52] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah.
[03:53] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah.

[04:02] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: okay

[04:04] Sub-052 (P1): Maybe we should
[04:07] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, define what would be a good candidate for this position, I guess.

[04:10] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yeah

[04:11] Sub-004 (P4): Okay.

[04:12] Sub-052 (P1): I don't know.
[04:12] Sub-052 (P1): From my point of view, it's more like the project coordinating kind of type rather than the very technical one.

[04:23] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yeah

[04:23] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, because it's not about developing the AI.

[04:23] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: no

[04:26] Sub-052 (P1): It's more about the adoption part of it.

[04:28] Sub-054 (P3): And from the other two, then?
[04:29] Sub-054 (P3): Do you have a preference?

[04:32] Sub-053 (P2): I think it really depends on what is the focus of this position, right?
[04:38] Sub-053 (P2): Because I understand it as more of the transformation across different departments.
[04:44] Sub-053 (P2) [bc]: right?

[04:45] Moderator: So if you have some sort of introductory knowledge to programming, it might be good, but not necessary to know advanced machine learning and stuff like that.

[04:55] Sub-052 (P1): Yes.

[04:56] Sub-054 (P3): Yes.
[04:58] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah, I agree.

[04:59] Moderator: I agree.

[05:04] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: yes,

[05:05] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: right?
[05:06] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah, right?

[05:06] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: yeah,
[05:06] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: yeah,

[05:08] Sub-054 (P3): Like someone who...

[05:09] Sub-004 (P4): It was a good communicator as well.
[05:11] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: Yeah.

[05:12] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, and lots of experience in rolling out these kind of things.

[05:16] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: Yeah.

[05:16] Sub-052 (P1): The only major difference is the years of experience, right?

[05:17] Sub-054 (P3): Yes.
[05:23] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: Yeah.

[05:37] Moderator: Yeah, it doesn't really say anything about...

[05:37] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: Yeah,

[05:38] Sub-053 (P2) [bc]: no
[05:38] Sub-053 (P2) [bc]: yeah
[05:40] Sub-053 (P2) [bc]: yeah

[05:42] Sub-052 (P1): Well, I have information about experience.

[05:46] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yeah
[05:46] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: okay

[05:47] Sub-052 (P1): Candidate C has more experience than candidate A.

[05:51] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: okay

[05:52] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, yeah.
[05:52] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: Okay,
[05:54] Sub-052 (P1): Okay, okay.
[05:56] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah.

[05:56] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: okay

[05:56] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, Candidate C has two more years of experience than Candidate A.

[06:00] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: oh
[06:01] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yeah

[06:02] Sub-052 (P1): So I think that's a strong pro.
[06:05] Sub-052 (P1): And Candidate C also has experience in consulting.
[06:09] Sub-052 (P1): I don't know if you know that.

[06:11] Sub-054 (P3): I mean, I was only missing a bit of the amount of experience, I would say, to say that that quote is almost exactly the same as what I have here for Candidate C. Like someone who basically...

[06:11] Sub-052 (P1): I think it sounds good.
[06:21] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: Okay.

[06:23] Sub-054 (P3): is very good at communicating what AI is for.
[06:26] Sub-054 (P3): It has helped rolling out this AI in different contexts and stuff like that, right?
[06:31] Sub-054 (P3): So I was like, okay, fine.
[06:32] Sub-054 (P3): Seems like this is the guy, but if you say that he has that amount of experience, that's what I will suggest at least.

[06:41] Sub-004 (P4): Mine doesn't mention anything about like AI at all.
[06:44] Sub-004 (P4): It's just like new tools and adoption of it.

[06:48] Sub-054 (P3): No, I do.
[06:50] Sub-054 (P3): I know about that.

[06:52] Sub-004 (P4): Well, even better.
[06:53] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: Yeah.

[06:53] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah, to be honest, because I mean, the first one to me seems more like the one who is a bit detached to whatever it is that he has, at least for me, it doesn't say he has experience on this particular technology.
[07:16] Sub-054 (P3): It's more like has experience on managing projects.
[07:20] Sub-054 (P3): And that's like, okay.

[07:21] Sub-004 (P4): Mine says direct limited knowledge.

[07:23] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: okay
[07:24] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yeah

[07:26] Sub-053 (P2) [bc]: Yeah.

[07:27] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yeah

[07:27] Sub-004 (P4): But it does, it do be a strength to be able to coordinate people, which I see the strength in, but I feel like the communicating between departments that the C has is more of a strength in this sense.

[07:33] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yeah

[07:38] Moderator: It sounds like C is more of a... Like a generalist in a positive way, where they know some bits and pieces about different things that might be nice, but they might have the...

[07:42] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: exactly

[07:43] Moderator: True.

[07:43] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: True.

[07:52] Moderator: They might be able to keep the overview of everything and the communication between departments.

[07:57] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: yes

[08:00] Sub-053 (P2): Candidate B might lack that a bit.

[08:02] Sub-004 (P4): Yes.

[08:02] Moderator: If we've completely ruled that person out, maybe.

[08:10] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, I wouldn't hire a candidate B for this job.

[08:13] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: no

[08:13] Sub-052 (P1): No.
[08:14] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[08:14] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: sure.
[08:14] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: Yeah,
[08:15] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: yeah,
[08:17] Sub-004 (P4): But just knowing the stuff doesn't mean you can communicate it well.

[08:20] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah.

[08:22] Sub-053 (P2): Also, the prompt seems like they're not really looking for like a specialist.

[08:27] Moderator: Yeah.

[08:27] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: Yeah.

[08:28] Moderator: So the person might also not be very happy in the role.

[08:35] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.
[08:35] Sub-054 (P3): Because right now we can be ourselves, I believe, right?
[08:38] Sub-054 (P3): I mean, then I will always go for C because I have seen A so many times and I have complained so many times about people like A that I would be like, I mean, I prefer someone who really, you know, is a bit more into it than just knowing how a corporation works.
[08:54] Sub-054 (P3): It's like, okay, fine.
[08:55] Sub-054 (P3): But in the end, that doesn't bring, I think, that extra mile of value.

[09:00] Sub-052 (P1): No, no, no, no.

[09:01] Sub-054 (P3): That's my feeling at least.

[09:02] Sub-053 (P2): Yeah.

[09:13] Moderator: Find new ways that work.

[09:17] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah, yeah.
[09:19] Sub-054 (P3): Okay.
[09:20] Sub-054 (P3): Nothing about the salary expectations we have.
[09:23] Sub-054 (P3): I don't know.
[09:25] Sub-054 (P3): Maybe there's like a no-go for the C because it's asking for too much or something.

[09:29] Sub-052 (P1): I think it's good.

[09:30] Sub-054 (P3): Okay.

[09:31] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, I'm good.
[09:32] Sub-052 (P1): I'm good with C. C also has some kind of workshop, setting up workshop experience.

[09:33] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.

[09:41] Sub-052 (P1): You can use that for showcasing how AI can transform and drive real value, right?

[09:50] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: Yeah,

[09:50] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah, exactly.
[09:56] Sub-052 (P1): So it sounds good to me.
[09:58] Sub-052 (P1): Some kind of McKinsey kind of dude.
[09:59] Sub-052 (P1): Yeah.
[10:02] Sub-052 (P1): Probably good.

[10:02] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.

[10:07] Sub-052 (P1): Okay.

[10:11] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: no

[10:17] Sub-054 (P3): OK.

[10:19] Sub-053 (P2): I can do it.

[10:19] Sub-054 (P3): Yeah.

[10:22] Sub-053 (P2): And I guess it is C. That's at least what I put in.

[10:30] Moderator: Thank you very much.
[10:31] Moderator: The task is finished now.
[10:33] Moderator: Now we have the post-task questioners.

[10:59] Sub-054 (P3): So I know, this is me, right?
[11:01] Sub-054 (P3): P2?

[11:02] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: No.

[11:02] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: no

[11:02] Sub-054 (P3): No?

[11:03] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: no

[11:03] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: No,

[11:03] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: no

[11:06] Sub-054 (P3): Oh, P3, OK. No, no, in the tablet, there's a ... Ah, OK. Then, yeah, like that.
[11:11] Sub-054 (P3): Thanks.

[12:34] Moderator: If it's possible, can you have the glass removed?

[12:37] Sub-004 (P4): Because we want to have the frame on top of your hair.
[12:42] Sub-004 (P4): No, I can kind of feel it.

[12:43] Sub-052 (P1): You know what, let me start over everything.

[12:44] Sub-004 (P4): Let me tie up my hair.

[12:46] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: No,

[13:39] Sub-004 (P4): The bubbles fell off.
[13:55] Sub-004 (P4): Sorry.
[13:57] Sub-004 (P4): Then you can... Oh, yeah.

[14:00] Moderator: Sorry.
[14:02] Moderator: No, it's my fault.

[14:02] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: No,

[14:04] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: Oh,

[14:04] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: Oh,

[14:04] Sub-053 (P2) [bc]: yeah.

[14:21] Sub-004 (P4): Yes.
[14:22] Sub-004 (P4): Is my earring hot?
[14:24] Sub-004 (P4): Oh yeah.
[14:27] Sub-004 (P4): Is it okay now?
[14:29] Sub-004 (P4): Yes.
[14:30] Sub-004 (P4): It feels okay.

[14:31] Moderator: No, it's okay.

[14:31] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: No,
[14:35] Sub-004 (P4): Thank you very much.
[14:36] Sub-004 (P4): Sorry for that.
[14:37] Sub-004 (P4): No, no, no.

[14:38] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: No,

[14:38] Sub-004 (P4): Thank you for letting me know.

[14:43] Moderator: There's one more.
[14:47] Moderator: Can I just... No, it's okay.

[14:49] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: No,
[14:50] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: okay.
[14:50] Sub-004 (P4): I think it's not.

[14:52] Moderator: Thank you.

[14:52] Sub-004 (P4): You're welcome.

[14:55] Sub-054 (P3) [bc]: No,

[14:55] Moderator: No, let's just have a short break.

[14:55] Sub-004 (P4) [bc]: No,

[14:55] Sub-052 (P1) [bc]: No,

[14:59] Moderator: Whenever you're ready, we can go too.
