content: This is really fascinating stuff, dealing with an NPC mind and its many defense mechanisms that trigger when you least expect it, as in my case when dealing with them I mention something that what usually makes sense in my mind, but in a way all I'm doing is projecting critical analysis on a subject assuming they would do the same thing. However, as I've seen with cases from long time close friends to nuclear relatives who generally have held the same beliefs I do, there is a layer of programming like you said that needs to be penetrated in a particular way. unironic suggestion but It sounds like a flow chart of some sort could be useful in being able to overcome this in order to more effectively red pill and really just restore level headed discussion which seems to have long but died.