content: Account Deleted By User The idea of the United States is completely antagonistic to the development of true nations, and while it exists it will hinder or stop ethnogenesis. The biggest example is Dixieland, but there are many other ones like the Appalachians. "There wasn't enough time for nations to develop!" Lies. Quebec is a true nation, and it had as much time as other white populations in north america. Where the Union not to have formed, or have formed in a different way than based in liberal values, there would be various white nations in the current territory of the USA. USA whites aren't a real nation. At most they are a paperwork nation, and not even that really, America is a paperwork nation. America isn't a nation in the same sense that Germany, Ireland, Spain or France are, and in it's current form it will never be. The USA, from it's conception, had a liberal basis. It thus has an idea of itself as a nation identical to the liberal conception of nation. Basically, in the liberal (classical liberal, e.g. 18 cent. Englishman) conception nation, and of society generally, a nation or society is formed and organized through a concious effort of individuals coming together, and not an a thing that comes naturally. Of course, there's never an historical example, as societies and nations just don't develop that way. I have a strong suspicion that that conception of America as wholely unified, a panamericanism if you will, destroyed natural ethnogenetic processes which were occuring. The Average American Man (which is a much later development but still fits) destroyed particular identities. Take the antiamerica pill. Also, I think that the Dixie nation is dormant, not dead, and still can be brought to life. I hope that when the collapse comes, Dixielanders are freed from the american yoke and declare themselves a nation. Can you give opinions on these ideas? Have similar things occured to you? Are there other groups which could be considered true nations other than Dixielanders (I'm not well versed in your situation americans)?