content: The Lasting Effects of Indoctrination and Abuse One of the big reasons why I challenge people on our side is because I notice that they tend to still think along the spectrum of the people who suppressed and abused them. I view what globo homo did to young people as a kind of child abuse, in the same way that Richard Dawkins would say that religion is child abuse. Often the first thing a person who comes to these shocking realizations will do for example, is investigate the defeated groups of the past who saw through and opposed this ideology, and then try to model their new outlook on these groups. While I don't think that this in and of itself is bad or that I'm unwilling to see the Nazis and the Holocaust in a completely different light, maybe even a very positive light, I think that it's a distortion of reality to dogmatically associate the taboo and shocking with truth. And what you get is a situation where any nuance that is a couple of degrees closer to the norm or that outright gives credit to progressives and liberals are interpreted as the abuse. And in such moments -- not necessarily here but in other places as well -- I see people behaving in a similar way to these people who suppressed us. For example, outbidding and xenophilia. Outbidding of course is where you know, they'll compete for who has the most radical position in order to signal their devotion. And by xenophilia, I'm talking about the behavior where they continue to move the goal posts -- idealizing and pathologizing behaviors closer or more distant from themselves. Another behavior that I see is framing things in terms of time travel -- the reasoning going that if globo homo is about "progress" or "moving forward" than we are about "returning to" or "setting back the clock." Of course, when I say this, know that I'm speaking of a general trend -- of tendencies often expressed unconsciously. Hitler saw himself as "the future" of Germany, sure, but he also framed his whole ideology on a return to the past and rejecting "modernity". The time travel thing is a con that is very easy to buy into even when you viciously oppose globo homo, and it often leads to ineffective retaliation. More abusive stuff would be stuff like dehumanization, deification, and the various bullying tactics. Plus, holding the view that in-group abuse is necessary for our political ideas to continue, when in reality this is not true at all. This stuff among many other behaviors -- and yes I'm aware Sargon ruined the comparison with his "right wing SJW" thing -- and yes I'm aware that memetics ensures that ALL groups have defense mechanisms which reinforce their beliefs. But I do not think that it is healthy for people on our side to simply become a mirror image of anti white society -- and I do not think that this allows us to actually take control of our countries and push these people out of institutions. That's sort of why the inevitable end conclusion of every nationalist ideology is some sort of "anti social" political strategy; war, secession, or coup. Because, you're trapped in what is literally a CULT -- don't think of it as political, it's a cult and it is very abusive -- and there's a chessboard at play that you have a really hard time navigating as a reviled outcast. There is still hope for our side to win. Our enemies, while psychologically damaged, can be deactivated and even reformed if you continue to softly press on them. There are a lot of people who feel as trapped as we were, and if you leave the door open for them they can be pushed out. Pressing on the fact that this is a cult -- this is dangerous, this is abusive -- you can actually do a lot to advance our agenda so long as that fact is pressed to the forefront of your mind. And I guess, without doing what internet atheists did and just being a cunt But yeah, whenever you look at ex cult members like on r/exjw they usually just become cultists of the opposite "enemy" persuasion with many of the features of their abusers. Like, those guys just become hardcore atheist hedonist liberals