I hoping they never recover. As a supplier to them, they always projected this ' we are the best and you will bow down to us to get an order ' pompous nose in the air we know eveything and we are the best assholes. That culture goes back to the 60's when my dad started his co. He always said they were the worst customer he had, hated doing business with them, but he was a practical businessman and gritted his teeth on every order. I have never or will ever buy anything that co. makes, period !