Also, I'm not sure what you're talking about with the comment "the city council voted not to put in a light rail system." It was put up as a ballot initiative and the people voted against it.  It was the one time I thought the people of Austin voted correctly on anything.  The light rail would have cost way more in taxes and would have only benefited students at UT. I agree that traffic is a bad joke, but that could be remedied if the moron liberals would allow more roads to be built instead of protecting shit like "lizard and cave spider habitats" or whatever else their ecological pet projects are on a given day.  And yeah, the toll roads are fucking bullshit. One thing we can agree on is that downtown and the city at large has turned into a cesspool of liberal failure and ridiculousness.  You couldn't pay me enough to live there. Luckily for me, I work from home and worked from home even before the covid debacle.  Haven't "driven to work" in over 5 years.  I don't miss that drive one fuckin bit.  It was pretty terrible. It's a beautiful city run by ugly people, and they're slowly but surely making the city as ugly as they are.