upvoat, but ministers are zombies, have no mind  { of their own },  btw, I love some good ppl I met thru mywork, {Fokker, KLM, Millbrook [ seconded KBR ] } Paki's, Malay, Indian, I;ve been very lucky to meet good ppl ; { forgot RAM, from  Surinam, sorry RAM ! ] Point I'm making, it's NOT the immigrant, it is the 'ministers', the Civil Service, the  ' IVY Universities, and the subversive  ' Red-Brick ' unis, which destroy our country...  PPL could kearn a lot from the Wisdom of UK Column . org Independant News - N.L.P., N.H.S., 'Boy' Cameron, and his $20 M Nuclear fraud, theiving Nikes from Iran... Plus, they give ' Air - Timre ', to Gorden Bowden..... REMEMBER, in the Fifties, OOUR gov't invited those lovely Jamacians here, then, from the sixties we bombed every country we could, those Natives had NO CHOICE, but to flee, and even today, ( Venuzela ) we send counterfeit money in,   to destroy their economy,  still further.... PlEASE,..............  It's not the Human  ' pig-in-the-Middle-, it is the Cabal....