Well what happened to this guy and others whose name you don't even know should be a warning to you.  You're saying that's a way to live to 84 years old? Isn't that kind of a mixed message you're sending? This guy is not an example of what you're trying to say, but it is a good point. I worked for a mafia front company for a short time as a kid, and after some funny money business, they killed one of the guys I worked with, and recommended another never come back to that state. If you associate with people who take things seriously, you're putting it all on the line.