Reason for Q: Counter to the Phoenix Program Found this in a discussion on Zerohedge about the The Mueller probe creative editing. Commenter says: The Mueller Probe is a side show... even Hillary's financing of the Steele Hoax and the British-May-Skripal-Five Eyes links. It's hardly hidden. I'd wager that the real show is the one described by Douglas Valentine: Joe: Doug, that description you just gave of counter-insurgency is a hallmark of counter-insurgency tactics by various different governments throughout the 20th century, where they quickly realize that their real enemy in the country that they want to control or take over, is the population because the actual armed insurgents or rebels in any military campaign inside a country where the people are attempting to kick out an invading force, those armed rebels invariably get their support from the local population. The local population is much more numerous and the rebels would not be able to survive without the support of the local population. So it seems to me, in reading about these things, that western governments have quickly realized "We've got to intimidate or in some way force the local population to submit, to stop supporting this relatively small group of armed individuals." Doug: That's exactly right and that was discussed at great length by the CIA and all the big brains who are putting together American counter-insurgency policy. Let me put it in some context. My father-in-law, Andy McEvan was born in Ireland and grew up along the border around a town called Maghery. Joe: You're joking me, right? Doug: No, no, no. Actually through my marriage I have Irish citizenship. I'll finish my story and then I'll present you with my bona fides. But anyway, Andy died a couple of years ago. He was 99. He was born in 1911, so he was 10 years old during the Irish civil war and he remembered it very clearly. "The goddamn Black and Tans. He started running marathons in New York City when he was 67 and he always wore an "England Out Of Ireland" T-shirt. He was a communist when it came to America in the 1930's. When I told him about the Phoenix Program he said to me "Well that's exactly what the Brits did to us in Ireland. They had a barracks up on the hill and at night the soldiers would dress up like Irishmen and they would come out of the barracks and they would kill our people! Not just the guys in the IRA but they knew the family members of the guys in the IRA and the soldiers would come out of the barracks at night and they would kill their wives and their children! They'd put them in a barn and they'd burn the whole barn down." Well that is the Phoenix Program, okay? It's terrorism directed against members of the civilian population in order to suppress the armed insurgency. But if you look back you'll see that the Romans did it too. It's always been done. It's not something that people in power are unaware of. What the CIA does in the Phoenix Program is to turn this into a highly refined bureaucratic system and to make it super technological and to refine it to such a degree that it becomes transferable all around the world. They bureaucratize these things and anything that can't be assimilated into the "American way", into a consumer society, into our belief system, anything that can't be assimilated, well they become subject to this new highly refined bureaucratic Phoenix system, which is how it becomes systematized and applied to Homeland Security and how it becomes the template for the Department of Homeland Security and its fusion centres which are now in every state across the country. It becomes the template for the FBI's anti-terrorism taskforce. What it does is, whereas in Ireland below the border, it was just a group of soldiers dressed like Irishmen and came out at night, now it's systematized. Now it coordinates the guys in the barracks with the Special Branch, with the navy, with the local police forces, with 25 to 50 different organizations, with civic institutions. All of these different organizations now are feeding information into a computer and there's a guy at every Phoenix Centre who gets all this intelligence about dissidents, civilians, and now they know everything about everybody and they can pick you out and they can go after you in ways that don't include now just putting everybody in a barn and burning the barn down. Now they can ruin your reputation. Now they can suppress you by putting your name in the newspaper as "So-and-so was investigated for domestic terrorism" or "So-and-so is part of an environmental group that's planning on attacking some corporation for fracking". It's just become a highly refined bureaucratic process that coordinates every government agency and almost every civic institution that is interested in expelling anybody from the system who can't be assimilated because they're a dissenter. It's got cutting edge technology. It has graduates of Yale who graduated cum laude in organizational behaviour. They study psychologically how people behave and they incorporate that into their theories and their practices of how to control people. They control the media. The media is part of this. It's an indispensable part of it. They don't tell you that all this is going on, but it is and it's been evolving and it's been developing and that's why in this new book The CIA as Organized Crime, I try to discuss it philosophically as well as with case studies to show that it has now become integrated into the very nature of what American society is and where it's going. And if you chart the historical arc, all these different facets that contribute to this modern manifestation of what the Phoenix Program is, you can see exactly where it's going. You can see exactly where it's heading. You can see where it's been and you can see how it had evolved. But people can't do that because it's illegal to talk about the CIA! You never hear anybody talk about the CIA because the legislative branches of the government are part of it too. Starting in 1982 they passed legislation called the Agent Identity Act that makes it illegal for the press to name a CIA officer or to discuss CIA operations and methods. https://www.sott.net/article/338324-The-Truth-Perspective-Interview-with-Douglas-Valentine-The-CIA-As-Organized-Crime