Thank you Divine.   You make a great point about truth, and bring the topic to a somewhat deeper level. I'd like to share my thoughts on that to clarify the framework I am using. I think it can incorporate the good points you have made. Let me know what you think.  Firstly, in stating that the spiritual is internal (subjective) and the truth, external (objective), I mean that specifically in relation to each other. In RELATION to each other, the spirit stands in an internal position while Truth (information) stands in an external position. They are, in fact, two aspects of the same thing, but that underlying reality manifests through a relationship between inner and outer, as partners. That's because all things manifest, develop and multiply through relationship, and all relationships require 'partners'.  Secondly, with regards to information and TRUTH, I think it's fair to say that truth can be seen as having two aspects: an internal one and an external one. The internal one is what I think you are referring to here as 'truth' and the external one perhaps what you mean by 'facts'.  Internal information/truth relies on our internal capacities, and therefore perception of it changes and varies based on our internal development (growth in consciousness, awareness, spiritual and character maturity, etc). External information/truth is perceived via the physical sense organs, and generally speaking, these are by and large static; most humans have a clear and specific range of sensory perception that we all agree on (putting aside the question of whether we all see 'red' in the same way, we do know that the frequency of light we can define as red can be objectively quantified).  On the matter of Truth, I personally think it's always important to have a mindset that factors in the possibility of not knowing. Thinking you know it all is a shortcut to arrogance and crippling intellectual illness. So I tend to think, OK, "there is a margin of error here". But then I also factor in choice, responsibility and conviction. In other words, if I think something is really, really true, then if I want to assert that, or act on that premise, I have to be willing to be responsible for that. It's my choice. That means, I can acknowledge a margin of error while still acting with conviction and affirmation. Wonder if that makes sense as I've described it?? One think I love about quantum physics is that it verifies the reciprocal relationship between inner and outer (internal and external); quantum mechanics reinforces the idea that 'reality' is defined by the relationship between a phenomena and the consciousness that perceives it. Pretty cool. wwg1wga