Haven't taken it in probably 5 years or so - but herbalsalvation has some clean, good plant material for cheap. They even used to send ginger chimes candies and samples with your orders - so bonus there. All I can tell whoever is reading this is that - it works.  Kratom will take your pain away and render you in the most relaxed state you've had in a while. "Red Vein" is recommended for pain - but I used to eat it and then do stretching and SLOW motion workouts for like 3 hours straight. "Why did you stop taking it?" - my cousin has chronic migraines from neck and back surgery.  He was on HARD opioids and it was fucking horrible to see.  I got him to try the kratom and when he ran out, I gave him the rest of mine. Never wanted to buy it or had the urge to do it since - I'm just OK and dont care. My cousin eventually quit taking it after about 2 years of doing it every day - same thing, he just didnt care to order it again - says he just felt OK.