Five years ago I did not understand that being polite with those you disagreed with was a losing strategy with any moral person when confronting most people om the left.  today I will only be polite with the left and even the right if the person I am discussing issue is willing to do the fallowing  be polite be truthful with me except information as being valid in a debate when it comes from a non libral source.  when this criteria is not met I GO TRUMPIAN ON THE PERSON