Those statistics were the highlight of the interview for me.  I had never heard of Celeste or listened to Dave Hodges but it certainly does not mean I am not knowledgeable about the topics discussed.  My frustration with the interview was more with the mechanics of the podcast and that doesn't take away from Celeste's experience or expertise. Most of the info I had heard before. I give her a lot of credit for waking up to the truth. I only express my opinion honestly from my point of view and I think you will agree that we are entitled to have and express an opinion...even ones that differ.  I frankly am glad that you follow her and like her because the more truth and voices out there the better. I take the time to read articles or listen to podcasts because a lot of people don't have the time to do that.  I do.  I learn a lot and the opinions I express are obviously my own based on my personal knowledge and preferences. One question...since you have listened to her speak before, how does this tie in with Trump?  Is he in on it or against it?  Have they discussed it? That is the one thing I can't determine. I have heard pro and con and it is confusing. Thanks.