It's pretty amazing to me how fats seem to have no concept of how it isn't just the food, it's also any dressing, topping, or oil you add as well. There is a mini moon who I went to school with that I saw at a baby shower who was eating only vegetables because she was on a diet. Only vegetables smothered in ranch.  I had some veggies too and a small turkey sandwich (slider sized). She told me she can't eat carbs because she just balloons up. When I mentioned CICO as being effective, she started rattling off how that's not true, because the body processes calories differently, and how she has been eating barely any calories and running 4X a week and hasn't lost weight. I glanced at her ranch plate and 200 lb, 5'4" frame and excused myself to find some humans to talk too.