That's a good point and yeah, she does. She was banging on a few weeks back about how a post Brexit famine would be good, and I do agree with that - she's a heifer and the weight loss would do her good I just can't understand what could have gone so wrong in it's upbringing that it ended up like that. It must hate it's parents, as well as itself. Bonus LOLs: It runs the University of Manchester Rock Society but dropped out after less than a year. It's funny to watch it every September with the new intake of students, as it gets a captive audience, away from their parents for the first time,basically in it's thrall. I thin it needs that like butter to live