PF is fine as long as you aren't one of those retards who grunt over lifting moderately sized free-weights. If you're an Olympic power lifter it's probably not for you, but for everyone else it's a pretty great deal at half the price you pay for most gyms and subsidized by the fat slobs. Real-talk I don't know why some people on this sub hate on PF because they're smart enough to market to fat people who won't actually work out anyway and subsidize everything gym for the rest of us. It's probably the first and only time most fats aren't an explicit drain on something.