Yeah someone needs to explain to them in McBeetus numbers. Like okay, your TDEE is 2500 calories, which means you can have a McMuffin for breakfast and a coffee with no sugar, 2 cheeseburgers for lunch (no fries) and a personal pan pizza for dinner. You can even have a diet coke too. They could probably have a small bag of chips for a snack too. Maybe a fruit ice as well (like when you blend ice, fruit, and juice).