Great point. I have a sort of friend who is fat, and I don't like her thaaaaat much because of it (and all that comes with it- excuses, lateness, untidiness, arrogance, selfishness, etc.) and am sort of on the fence about how much I should shitlord her. I mean, she really needs it, but we are forced to spend a lot of time together at work. Plus I don't even know if it would work!!!! The best way I have shitlorded her so far is that we've been workout partners doing all the same stuff, and I've lost 15+ lbs while I think she has gained... imagine how much she must be eating!!! Hopefully a wake up call for her??