If you "drink pesticides", you will "die". If you "count calories/diet", you will "lose weight". Fatass: If most people who "count calories/diet" don't lose weight, why are you promoting "counting calories/dieting"? Doc: "By your logic, "drinking pesticides" is safe because not many people die from drinking it. Seriously, you WILL die from drinking pesticides, and you will lose weight from counting calories." /Fat translation/ "By that logic, it's safe to to drink pesticide, because very few people die from drinking pesticide. Of course, you have to actually drink pesticide to die, and the same goes for counting calories." "By that logic, it's "okay" to not "count calories/diet", because very few people "lose weight" from "counting calories". Of course, you have to actually "count calories" to "lose weight", and the same goes for "drinking pesticides"." As for a reply to "CICO is ineffective", Fatass lied about calories in/calories out. Science is a shirlord. Laws of Thermodynamics applies to everyone.