Seriously, thanks for saying what I was trying to say way better than my tired ass can muster right now. EDIT:  All I can add to this is that also our evolution dictates it -- funny how they mention the age of five -- should fucking clue them into checking out the reams of studies that show that the majority of us are BORN being repulsed by fat because it is a visual indicator of health problems, etc., ground that's been covered here before - ugh & good night ~_~