Thanks for that info. I just thought that was roids because almost all the guys at my gym who use cheaper stuff smell like bison shit and have those exact boil-like pimples.  True with the women, and even with anavar, they have those man-like stretched faces with clown noses. Another one who claims she's natty is that Swede, what's her name... Nordin. Also like you said, the delts are a give-away. There are only 1 or 2 girls on gear that I know of and you can totally tell by that tweaky, crackly voice they have. PCOS? Isn't that the thing fat women use as an excuse to be fat?