Yeah it is super shitty, I do hope I can help them someday when/if they want to better themselves.    I really like how you put it, that it's a vicious cycle that can only be broken with personal responsibility and motivation.  I've been pushing so hard this last year to make sure I don't go down that road, and visiting this sub and talking with shit lords/ladies like yourself is so fucking motivating.    Anytime I might have felt like skipping the gym or not eating so great I'd get on here to cruise some pictures,  read some stories and then get my ass back out there to keep my shit tight!  Fuck the haters, this sub and people like you are my motivation, never stop lording.