Agreed.  I have a low carb diet for my stomach issues (white flour, white sugar, corn syrup, pasta) make me queasy and I had to sleep sitting up as to not drown at night from all the acid reflux.    So, after a few months of a food diary to pinpoint my issues being carb-laden meals, I looked at Atkins, keto, etc. and I saw the same shit - "as long as my CARB COUNT is 20g or less/day, I'll lose weight!" or "I eat 8 of these Atkins bars a day, why don't I lose weight?  Only 2 net carbs each!".    And then you find those like on /r/rketo who actually understand CICO, and talk about carb reduction IN CONJUNCTION with eating at a caloric deficit.  They helped tremendously in eating at a maintenance while still cutting out carbs from my diet.  Basically, I learned cauliflower is your friend! Edit: spellings.