People really dont know what overweight is anymore.  There are a couple different online forums i frequent that arent fat / health related, but a couple of them do have threads that people made about fitness, keto etc.  Fatasses galore, and the goal weights of people on there are always still overweight if not obese.  One guy is 6'2 210 and describes himself as "lanky."  You cant have an overweight bmi and be lanky, thats not how it works.  And so many guys in the 5' 9" - 6' range have goal weights around 200lbs, why the fuck is your goal to be on the cusp of obesity?  They really think they would be fit at 5' 10" 200.