That and there is the concept of age...people do fucking age, and it amplifies all the shitty decisions you made when you were younger. It seems like all the the HAES fatminism planets are all in their 20s, and have this "sha-la-la eat for today" mentality that everyone knows will end badly...all morbidly obese people develop diabetes, lymphedema, and debilitating joint and back problems. Yeah it doesn't happen overnight, but it WILL happen. I'd like to see how smug they are in about 10 years, barely waddling around, in constant pain, washing down their 30 medications down with a big gulp of Dr.Beetus and blaming all the problems that have accumulated in their life on their parents, their injury, their diabeetus, their juhnettics...anything but their shitty eating habits and their inability to eat a salad once and awhile.