Almost; I think they think of it like a numbers game where everything is relative, and to a certain extent, they're right. I'll never lustfully caress a fats saggy sausage casing skin, but there are plenty of people who will lower their standards based on what's available. Being overweight is now average and the scarcity of fit people creates social pressure to settle.  There was a post by a fit lesbian here the other day (something like 80% of her dating pool is obese ) whose (ham) sister basically told her that "beggars can't be choosers" and tried to downplay the importance of physical chemistry in dating as a way of priming her to be set up with one of a procession of fats from Facebook.  The straight/cis dating pool is slightly lower in saturated fats, but as a relatively fit guy approaching 30, it's already getting really hard to find anyone attractive to date. Meanwhile, I get solicited by fat gamers and the wrong kind of feminists online every couple of days and friends and family wonder why I'm not always seeing someone.  Personally, I'd rather just enjoy the time for exercise, friends, and projects, but I can see how someone might just give it up after a while and descend into gluttonous conplacancy themselves and settle for a ham. Plenty of my peers seem to be doing it. It's probably some kind of biological imperative at work. HAES and Body Positivity are symptoms of fats tuning into it.  Thinking about the forces driving buttergolems' behavior as a herd still boggles my mind. Most are in complete denial about their culpability in the sad state of their bodies and have completely given up on ever controlling their eating. It's so bad that the prospect of shifting an entire society's norms and standards seems like a more attainable way of getting laid/accepted than consuming in moderation and exercising occasionally. Really let that sink in for a minute.  On behalf if the human race: "fuck...." Thank god fit people are continually demonstrating their rationality and self-control by existing. There will always be a subset of the population that would rather be single and preserve their self respect than date a fat.