Europian (dutch) guy here. And HAES is not that well known here. Most of the fats will agree with you that they should loose some weight. (And do nothing after agreeing.) But there are not that many deadfats here as I see when I visit the uk or us. So maybe in time when also the netherlands becomes more obese haes wil become more well known. But I think if somebody would try to defend HEAS here atm. They would be laughed at and told to stop being stupid and get there fat ass moving.