Wow, I've made more important decisions as an 18 year old than plenty of people later in their lives. Anyway, the real difference is fatpeoplelogic is a sarcastic group where it's more, "If they weren't fat they'd be attractive." At fatpeoplehate, that sentence would get someone banned. FPH keeps in mind that these people have no self-respect and are obviously worth very little to themselves. I've never posted there, but it's the reason why I've lost 40 lbs in 10 weeks; the control is there, it's just using a brain. Fat people are not victims of anything other than gluttony.