Account Deleted By User Just wanted to hear your opinion on the matter. Conversation I had with one of my liberal ex's recently over my gun collection brought the topic of police up.  I did bring up in my defense, why I would ever consider the police as an immediate solution for self defense when half of them are overweight, can barely pass physical fitness and barely qualify for shooting.   I'm fit, a much better shot, my gun is immediately available, and most police are barely trained in any hand to hand combat or martial arts which I also took for years. I suspect they'd be healthier if they were. Not to rant on, what do you guys think of the state of our police force in the US. If we're suppose to rely on them to protect us, why are they barely qualified and half the time extremely unfit.