I have had much, much more luck trying steer people from making bad decisions with drinking and drugs habits than I ever had trying to get fatasses to stop abusing the drive through window.  Well, you can just stop using drugs, you have to eat something or you eventually die. The thing that gets me about fats is they tend to just be waddling through life like drones eating beige, mass-produced food. If they would switch to food with nutritional content, like mixing in some greens and nuts, they would get less depressed. Yeah, the withdrawal week will be hard. But then you start to feel amazing. I know this is a CICO forum, and CICO works. But some foods do seem to make depression worse, and some seem to help lift it. They talk about being tired all the time - I think most of these lardasses are just depressed. Not about people being mean to them. They just are depressed, because of how they organize their lives.  I see a sad, grumpy fat, I'm like, take some spinach and cashews, call me in the morning.