There's this abomination of a website that looks like it's from the GeoCities/Pre-MySpace Era where an obeast gives shitty advice to other Moothers to be. She tells these ginormous landwhales (seriously, average is like 5'2 & 350lbs) that "c-sections aren't necessary, us plus size landwhales can give natural birth if we want to!! Find a fat-friendly Healthcare provider that will feed your delusional follow your birthing plan!!".  Uhm, no. First off, these creatures get winded just waddling to the fridge from the couch, they're in no condition to give birth or do anything strenuous. Secondly, chances are the moo will have so many complications it will be rolled into surgery shortly after being induced. These are like the cows on the babybumps subreddit that are so obese they end up with gestational diabetes, pre-eclampsia, (not to mention infections due to their shit hygiene) then have the audacity to reeee when their kid dies or they have terrible complications during labor. Guess what, buttercup? Remember when you were warned but instead of being compliant you got on Reddit and reeeeeed about being fat-shamed? Yea well, how fierce do you feel now that you've killed your kid? None of them ever blame themselves either; No no, it's the doctors/hospitals fault, every. single. time. One obeast in particular on that sub had one of her twins die (she says she's "chubby" teehee with a BMI of over 50) and is suing the hospital. She had DM type 2, gestational diabetes, and untreated pre-eclampsia that she ignored. Also kept pushing for a vaginal birth but after a ridiculous amount of time in labor they gave her a c-section. There were serious complication and the kid died of something coupled with a bacteria infection,  I IRC. Totes wasn't her fault, even though she kept refusing a c-section long after her water broke. She was in labor forever before they said fuck it and did the c-section.. The cognitive dissonance is real.  It's hilarious how there are all these "strong, fierce, beautiful real womyn" who are super healthy at half a ton and don't care what the doctor says, yet when the inevitable happens it's the doctors fault. I think they should all be involuntarily sterilized, but I know that won't happen. Instead we will continue to let them reproduce inferior offspring while we subsidize their horrendous health and lifestyle, 'cause most of them have condishuns that are triggered by work, of course.