>make extensive use of e-begging >adamantly refuse to shave facial hair, adamantly refuses to shave body hair, almost entirely due to horrible hygiene and extreme laziness fueled by delusional beliefs that call for it--very different creatures from a Gengoroh Tagame model or an attractive woman with pubic hair >"I'm such a nice guy!  Girls are so shallow!  They fuck douchebags!" | "What about my personality?  Guys are so shallow!  They fuck self-hating anorexic bitches!" >"Lower your standards, ladies!  Go for the guys who don't look so good but have a personality!" | "Your beauty standards are because of the media!  Real wymyn have curves and thick black body hair everywhere!" >Thinks a fedora and a sloppy neck-beard looks good, never bothers with well-groomed facial hair | thinks bad colors and a sloppy pixie cut looks good, never bothers with well-groomed hairstyles >tries to ruin fedoras for women who like Indiana Jones, 1920s gangsters, etc., giving a formerly-attractive feature a bad name | tries to ruin dyed hair and piercings for men who like punk/goth/emo/etc. chicks, giving a formerly-attractive feature a bad name >are shit at their jobs, if they don't [refuse to get one in the first place] because that would interfere with being sedentary Holy shit, you're onto something.    Look at David Futrelle, for example.  Last time he was hot--by my admittedly furfag standards--was his late teens or thereabouts.  Sean "Dragoneer" Piche is an even nastier fit2fat example.  He's just as terrible at running websites as you'd expect from looking at him, which would be less of an issue if he were running some obscure ghetto Web 1.0 site instead of running a site like FurAffinity--which is large enough that it gets continuing volume not because it's a better site but because it already has a high volume (it's like why all the obscure metal videos I like are on YouTube and not Vimeo--it's not that YouTube is a better site).    And it's not a matter of "condishuns," look at what Frederick Brennan accomplished.  The best software engineers I know IRL are all thin, not slovenly neckbeards like Dragoneer and Fatrick.