Pretty much. During times of extreme hunger or disease, sure it was rational to want a woman who was a little plumper since that meant she had money and could afford to eat and wasn't poor/ riddled with disease. But at no point were any of the ideals ever overweight or even close to obese! Plump meant like a size 8 instead of a 2. Genetically speaking being overweight always means you're less likely to be able to get pregnant/ carry a child to term so at no point would men want that to have to try and pass on their genetics.      7fe9