Yep. Which is why I look at degrees as toilet paper anymore. Certifications from nationally and internationally recognized agencies and experience are where it's at. I've taken additional college courses for continuing education and satiation of curiosity, and it never fails, the fucking eatbeasts and just pure lazy fucks in the classes that either: 1) Can't get off their phone for 30 fucking seconds. 2) Fat fucks with a carry-on roller bag full of genetics for the short period they'll be in class. 3) Fucking mouths that won't shut the fuck up, talking over the professor, about inane bullshit they did last night, so-and-so did, or what they're doing after class. 4) The "This class is part of my major, if I don't get at least a C, I can't get my next classes! I need at least a C." And of course "Why isn't there extra credit? I can't get (insert grade) without it!"  ...yeah, studying the material and actually participating in discourse would have covered that, fuck-o. "Higher Education" in the US is a fucking atrocity. This is a topic of its own because there's so many contributing factors. But the fucking waddle-walking Oreogres doing a zombified truffle-shuffle to the nearest food dispenser and/or elevator definitely make it suck even more so. And then there's this "Fat Studies" bullshit. We used to joke about that when we studied bariatrics, the medical study of fat fucks and the treatment (and special equipment) they require. Fucking life imitating satire again. ...again.