Something I thought about when people say fats can choose to be fat if they want So ok, if someone accepts that fats can choose to be fat if they want and they shouldn't be shamed for it (and most of our society thinks this way) and we've all seen the reaction to posters and ads that talk about healthy eating and how it "body shames", hell you can't even say "obesity" without triggering fats. Why is it so different with smoking? We had a huge public push to lower and eradicate smoking, because we all know "yes" if you want to smoke you have the personal freedom to do so, but if we want to improve our society, having a low smoking rate is beneficial. No one would ever look at an anti smoking ad and say "HEY THAT'S SMOKESHAMING!" or if there's a picture of a healthy person that's not smoking, you also wouldn't here "HEY SMOKERS CAN BE HEALTHY TOO!" You would never hear excuses like "oh nonsmokers can get lung cancer too" when you say smoking's unhealthy. It's not uncommon/shaming to say smoking is gross, and that you could never date a smoker. Anyways that's my $.02, I hope it's all coherent, I'm tired from work.