Doctor at my work shut down a ham today with the best response to "CICO doesn't work" I've ever heard My work brought in a doctor to give a health and wellness seminar. Attendance was mandatory, so the crowd was a little tougher than usual. Anyway, most of his talk was about how losing weight is the single best thing you can do for all sorts of reasons - normal stuff. To do it, he recommended keeping a food log or using an app like mfp, and using a food scale to measure portions.  Fatass receptionist bitch in the front row raises her hand, and then asks in a very condescending tone: "Did you know that most people who diet don't lose any weight at all, or gain it back within 2 years. And if so, why would you recommend something that has been shown to be ineffective? " Doctors reply (verbatim - I had a pen): "By that logic, it's safe to to drink pesticide, because very few people die from drinking pesticide. Of course, you have to actually drink pesticide to die, and the same goes for counting calories." Ham was silent.