The debate will be everlasting until Tess and Regan and all those fucking SJW and FA morons learn that it IS CICO and nothing else. literally like you said eat less move more. but they will never except it because it is easier to blog, vlog and complain than its hard to lose weight thank actually do anything about it. Cundisions and your fucking thyroid, and your fucking PCOC may make a slight (100-200 calorie difference) so you compensate properly and you WILL LOSE WEIGHT!!!! it makes me so fucking frustrated!