Do we really hate fat people? I got involved in FPH about a month ago, and since have become taken with both the community and the message here.  FPH is logical, compelling, and consistently hilarious.  However, the name itself, and the mandate to "hate" fat people has caused me to experience a great deal of cognitive dissonance.  While many posters here fall on the humorous side of things, I take my personal campaign against fat here very seriously (Most of the time =).  I strive in my own life to not hate people except under very specific criteria.  I suspect that a lot of "casual" shitlords are turned off of FPH because they don't like the idea of actually hating individuals specifically because they are fat.  The most common argument I see against hating fat people is that they have the freedom to determine their own lifestyle.  This naively ignores how individuals lifestyle impacts society as a whole. To start off, lets begin with some behaviours that we all should hate.  I hate their irrational arguments.  I hate how their self-inflicted injury burdens society as a whole.  I hate how there are less and less attractive women for me to partake of every year.  I hate how they rationalize their condition and refuse to improve.  I hate how they say that fit people are unattractive out of spite.  I don't hate these things as a concerned onlooker, I hate them because this behaviour has a real and significant impact on my own life.  Some people might be in favour of just letting people with self-inflicted illnesses die, and I can't find logical error with their steely-eyed logic.  Personally, my empathy is too strong to stand by while people ruin their health and their lives.  As a result, their self destruction is a burden on my own person.  Their attempts to reinforce their position by lowering others to their standerds compounds this issue.  While there might be a fat person in another country who exerts no impact on my own life, it is merely realistic to accept that the choice of fat people to be fat negatively impacts the greater community. Hypothetically, if there is a fat person living as a hermit somewhere, I don't hate them.  They can make all the terrible choices they want, freedom to make bad decisions in regards to one's own interest is the only real kind of freedom.  In just about every other imaginable case, however, the choice to be fat affects the society you live in.  This choice checks all boxes on legitimate reasons to hate.  It substantially and negatively impacts others, it has no redeeming value, and it is a growing threat.  I don't take hating someone lightly, and I don't hate fat people "just because" or because they don't conform.  I hate them because their unhealthy choices have a real impact on my own life. My hate is not synonymous with not caring what happens to them, it goes right along with it.  I don't want these people to feel unwanted sexually.  I don't want them to die early.  I don't want them to be unable to comfortably perform routine daily tasks.  I want them to take responsibility for themselves and recover themselves.  However, I lack the power to force them to stop doing this to themselves.  Hate is the worst and last available option.  It doesn't make me hate them and everything they do.  We all have fat family members, coworkers, even friends.  I don't plan on shunning these individuals, or ignoring their positive attributes.  I do insist on hating their fat laden bodies, and the behaviour that resulted in them.