"Fat women were the ideal in the past bcuz art" You know how fatties are always REEEEing about mayotankers being the beauty standard in the past because one fat fetishist painted overweight women?  They stick to those few images as proof despite literally every other piece of classic art being healthy women.  They weren't even just thin, most of them have great musculature.  I had serious squat booty envy going through the Louvre.   I saw this painting recently and thought what do you know..there is actually one very fat woman depicted in art.  Even though that just means she had enough money to sit for a portrait.  Then I read the description - portrait of Gerard.  It's a fucking dude.  I couldn't even tell.  I should've been able to tell it was formerly male by the style of dress - but all I see is a 1600s tarp.  I'm going to post it somewhere "supporting" their claim of obesity being idealized and see how many YAAAAS QUEEN SLAY responses I get before crushing their fat dreams.   The ideal was never fat and never will be.