Your username!! Love it! I am pretty sure this is where the top of the waistband should be. Max comfort and no bagging in the butt zone. Fats are just so big around, that they distort the pants severely.  Have you ever noticed how many short fats you see wearing pants that aren't long enough? It puzzled me until I figured out that their fat is stretching the pants too far sideways to allow for adequate length. Dang. I guess I'll not complain about baggy skinny jeans around fat women.  I mean, I do value my life.