We agree about the fat, I was giving examples of unhealthy and expensive food. Fatty meats and cheeses are not healthy. They don't kill (the diner at least) when eaten in moderation. However, fatties don't know the word "moderation". And carbs from whole foods are nothing to be afraid of. Patients have reversed CAD on high carb diets. As you say, it is the refined carbs, often in combination with a massive fat intake, that result in the Jabbas of modern society.