Lol the saying is 'you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink' but I got what you meant. Yeh I see your point but we don't know OP's relationship with his mother other than that she is fat. I'm sorry to hear you had a rough time with your mother but I would hardly say that is common. I just see alot of post's with people talking about family but it just seems to be moaning. If OP had said he has tried time and time again to get her to loose weight then fair enough, but like many of these types of post's I see he seems to just be calling his mother a fat sack of shit on the internet. Seems a cowardly thing to do if you care about someone