Absolutely. I hate them even more in the sciences, because who else should know thermo than scientists. >:( side rant: I have to work in the proximity of a little whale pod. The type of them that are like little (huge) yappy dogs about weight loss, always 'trying' different fad diets (30 day fix? idk). Yet...gosh, still got as many rolls as chins. I suggested mfp once. They used it for about three days. It takes so much willpower to not throw things with the advent of every new diet.