The idea is moderation. I have definitely had a hostess cupcake covered in nacho cheese as a kid, BUT it was an experiment and we had it for fun after we ran around all day. Food is not the enemy, excess is the enemy. As humans we will crave fats and salts and sugars, because that's what makes our brains happy and big, however as a society we need to remind people that we don't NEED so much because we have such an abundance. Most mammals eat everything they can get their hands on because they don't know when the next meal will be. humans are unique in the way they have access to abundant food. We are hard wired to gorge and starve but we need to change that. I think our big ass brains can figure it out. At least 30% of the US can...sigh.