And what always got me when I worked tangentially with them - they were nice! I know the stereotype and everything. But my experience with actual models has been nothing but pleasant. I think it's the difference between someone with actual confidence in themselves and these "fake it till you develop a psychological scar that allows you to kinda pretend for a while" types. You can't really like others if you don't like yourself first. And fats don't like themselves, no matter how much they might insist otherwise.