Can we keep this to fat hate? There are pros and cons to nationalized health care, but that's for another board.  P.S. Comparing infant mortality rates in different countries is comparing apples to oranges. There is no standard for what counts as a live birth from one country to the next. Some countries do not figure a birth before 30 weeks of gestation, some 25, others even lower.  Some countries won't count a baby born weighing only two pounds. In the US, we count all.