Yeah, I know I give kids leeway until like 16-17 or even 18 to become human if it's because parents made them fat. But that's because I think by the time you're 16-17 you should know common sense and be educated about your body and see that the Olympic athletes are toned etc. but if these kids are severely restricted from Internet/tv/any unsanctioned media/ and been preached haes and body acceptance  they are doomed.