Bull fucking shit. All the good parts about a sport, the improvement to quality of life, mobility, physical and mental health, are thrown out the fucking window purely for gluttuny and ignorance. There's no scientific evidence that past male 12% and female equivalent bf% there's significant improvement to strength and I'm being conservative.  Being in several fitness communities over years, I haven't seen a single one of these degenerate fucking pigs trying properly. They try once with a shitty plan, say they feel weak and go back to hogging the next day. The worst kind of pigs, the ones who clearly could put some effort into it, but go miles out of their way not to. If you wanna give them a pass for it, that means shit. It just makes your pass worth nothing.