Came here to say this. U.K. Size 8 in the waist but hips and bust are a bit bigger (like U.K. size 10). Big quads from sports. If wearing styles to suit your (still human!!!!!) frame doesn't work you are just a fucking fatass. If the biggest socks they make are too big you are a massive fatty - like I say, my legs are not skinny and the large size socks fall down around my ankles!