They're both overweight. Those are actually quite flattering outfits for the two so I'd disagree with you. The first: Is fat The second is very good at camera angles. She doesn't upload much to Facebook unless she looks particularly good in them. But in that picture she's dressed up, posing, and sucking her gut in. The outfit actually is quite flattering. Here you can still see how large of a leg she has as the fat is hanging down, rippling near the couch. She's heavy.  That's what this sub is for. To rant and complain and hate on overweight individuals. They both are out of a healthy BMI range and qualify. Nobody jokes about a "Freshman 60" like them without qualifying as fat.