Three of those Special-K bars = almost/about 400-450 calories, depending on which ones he was eating. When I was losing I often had one of those for dessert--the strawberry chocolate one was like 135 calories, and they were really tasty. (But two of those would be 270 calories, which is basically a glazed donut, and if I'm going to eat 270 calories I'd rather have the donut, thanks.) So that's 400 calories right there. Add a bottle of Gatorade, just one small bottle (140 cal), and you've got 550 calories (540, but I'm rounding up), which only leaves you 2050 for the rest of the day, and your canned peach juice is probably at least another 100 or so (plus you know he was not sticking to the small single-serve Gatorades). Salad dressing? Cheese and shit on your salad--maybe ranch, olives, croutons? As you said, who knows about the turkey or what condiments he used. Bread can have a LOT of calories. And yes, you know he was lying about his intake anyway, as evidenced by the mention of Domino's double pepperoni pizza. No way was he having only one slice. Plus, of course, you're right, that when you're eating only processed crap, you're not fulfilling your body's actual needs.  You are supposed to use your brain to infer that, if you are not losing weight, you need to eat less because the fact that the calorie information is wrong is common knowledge and common sense.  EXACTLY. Not losing weight at 2500? Why, it must be that CICO is wrong! It can't possibly be that you don't actually need 2500 calories a day! No way!  Idiot.