I don't think it's subtle anymore. If you look at the lady who started HAES, Linda Bacon and the other person she was working with, they are normal weight AND it looks like they work out. Doing the opposite of what they preach. It freaks me out but I know it's for the best. We got in the way of natural selection and helped too many stupid people breed. Anyone stupid enough to eat themselves infertile didn't need to have children. The world looks like a mess now but maybe everyone will be smarter in a few generations.