We lost the war. Look around you. Read recent anecdotes here regarding no trim people in some areas. Note the size of freshmen on college campuses. Obsesity is now a threat greater than hunger to world health. This is especially apparent in the Western world. We lost. We're the minority. I'm done trying to give healthy advice. Let them stuff their faces and do nothing but watch TV. The more they indulge, the more miserable they'll be, and the sooner they'll die. We can't stop them, anyway. Thankfully my wife is also very much a shitlady. I'm focussing on us being the best we can be. If others nearby do the same, they'll be quite visible and we'll find them. If not, they're on their own.