Some grade "A" shitlording on youtube comments :D Transcripts from a fight I had with a whale. Notice how he takes the moral high ground pity route, instead of debating properly. Whale: So you have some evidence that shaming has had a positive contribution to reduced rates of smoking? I can't find a single study that backs up your opinion. Perhaps you are just trying to justify being an ass hole? Me: Are you trying to imply that the societal hatred towards smoking is in any context a bad thing? That not allowing them to smoke in planes is a bad thing? That not letting minors smoke is a bad thing? What's worse, hating terrible people? Or encouraging people to be terrible? Whale: Um nope, none of those things. I think they are all wrong because of the harm they cause others. I think I was quite clearly asking you to back up your claim with evidence, as far as I am aware the evidence shows the opposite effect to your assertions. Me: If obese people ate healthily and gave there food to starving people in africa, we could save a billion lives. If all the money we spent on treating obesity related illness was spent on nasa, we could send 10 probes to jupiter's moons every single year! Tell me again how they are not harming others?? And so I shame them because they are fucking terrible people who deserve to be shamed. Whether or not it helps is honestly irrelevant. Does the death penalty stop serial killers? Probably not, they are so fucked up anyway I highly doubt they care. So should we just stop punishing murderers? HELL FUCKING NO! Whale :"And so I shame them because they are fucking terrible people who deserve to be shamed. Whether or not it helps is honestly irrelevant." Then you are actually a disgusting compassion-less excuse for a human being. A genuinely terrible person, because of who you are as a person. It makes me shudder to think how monsters some people are. Hopefully you are a child and will grow up. Me: That was meant to be somthing akin to a thought experiment. I still maintain that fat shaming does help. Regardless, do we really want to as a society see bad decision making as ok? In my mind the fat acceptance movement is no different from smokers claiming they do no damage to their health. Except that being obese is SIGNIFICANTLY WORSE FOR YOUR HEALTH!!!! Whale: In principle I don't want to be the kind of person that shames people for any purpose and as a fat man who has struggled to lose weight I would not keep people in my life who think they can shame me. No one needs to surround themselves with ass holes. Worse than that though I find much of my weight problem comes when I'm feeling low and low self esteem, I think idiots judging would only serve to make things worse. Me: So lose the weight and get in shape! Its like you people don't even view that as an option!! -_- Whale: What? I didn't even know that was a possibility cus I'm so fucking fat and stupid! What do you think happens we just ignore it until some ass hole comes along and tells us how to live? How about fuck off you nasty judgemental piece of shit. I hope one day you learn a bit of compassion, because you will end up lonely otherwise. No one likes a bully. Me: Thats fine, you can also keep on making excuses and die early ;) Whale: I don't think I ever said I planned to stop trying, there's hope for us all, even you. I may well not die early, you mat well not die alone, but it will take effort for us both. Personally given the choice of between being fat and being a nasty judgemental bully I'll take fat every day. Me: Look at your wording! "trying", "hope", "effort"! This is not the wording of someone who is actually doing it. You are deluding yourself. You are not actually doing anything about your situation, and you're trying to justify it. If you actually cared about your health you would be making it your top priority. Anyone can lose weight easily, even if they have hypothyroidism. If you are not skinny you are LAZY! PERIOD! Same goes for skinny unhealthy fucks too. If you are not making fitness a priority, and eating healthy, you have pretty much failed as a human being. Whale: I'm glad you feel confident in your ability to psychologically evaluate me without ever meeting me or knowing anything about what I do or do not do. If I were still young I might be insulted by your nasty idiocy, but as a secure adult the only feeling you raise in me is pity, I pity you. Me: And I pity you. At least you have some value in REPOPULATING THE WHALES!!!