I saw a post in this sub yesterday that linked to a reddit sub for 1200 calorie diets. I clicked through a bunch of posts and was astounded by how many were bragging about the junk they fit in their allotment for the day. I know we don't do food hate, but when those are the bulk of posts I see geared toward "healthy" eating, I still see a segment of the population headed toward future health problems. It's like our population is allergic to produce. (I have my own bias toward produce driven diets - not necessarily vegetarian. We have a 3000 ft vegetable garden / fruit orchard we're building up and we refer to it as the arsenal against disease.)