Last night I fucked up I am in a fraternal organization that meets once a week.  I love these guys like my brothers.   After meeting, we go to a place we've set up with couches, dartboards, chairs, a bar, and 'engage in fellowship' by drinking and talking.  It's a nice after-party.  I did have a few beers, a friend from another lodge came by and I walked him out when he left.   I came back to a discussion on weight, poor people, oppression, lack of 'healthy food choices', genetically modified food, etc. Just your typical fatlogic bullshit that I hear about daily. I know it was the beers, but I went on full shitlord mode.  Pretty loud and obnoxious.  Actually REALLY fucking loud and obnoxious, and I usually control myself in public--private is a wholly different matter.   Every comment I made along the lines of "Calories in Calories out" was met with changing the subject--which is how we got onto genetically modified beef, corn, and other crops.  By the way, did you know that the reason we didn't have nearly as much obesity in the 70s as we do now is because of all the hormones put into beef?  I said "no, it's because they stuff their faces with more and more beef that they did in the 70s".   Another comment: "Look, if you eat 10k calories of healthy lettuce"; and, by the way, there's food wastelands so that poor people CAN'T get 'health and nutritious" food--I had no idea, "Then you'll gain weight if you don't burn 10k calories.  Period, Full Stop."  That statement was met with "Well, you can't eat 10k calories of lettuce".  For fucks sake.   There was more.  So much more.  It degregated into white privilege and that I can afford "healthy food", but the obese people can't.  AGAIN, I know it was the beers, but I finally woke up and looked....all those fuckers were 30-60lbs (different guys, one was 30, one was 60, and the other inbetween) overweight.  I knew at that point it was all pointless. Fuck these delusional fucks.  Conflating the issue of how much someone eats with income, availability, dedication, motivation, diligence, and discipline.  They think just because they've done something one way, that no-one else can do it differently.  Just because you stuff your face with burgers and fries (and a bunch of both), doesn't mean someone else can't drive 20 miles to a different grocery store to find food.  Instead of spending money on clothes or other bullshit, they could spend it on food--like fruits, vegetables, lean meats.   Ok man, just roll over and die, you fuck.  I'm done with you. TL;DR: Fucked up by trying to talk sense to a couple of fats.