they claim to be so non-conformist  Do they? I don't know. My interaction with any kind of punk scene is pretty much non-existent. But I feel like I see that general sentiment about most subcultures and clothing. Hell, even gender to some extent and guys insisting that any shirt that isn't a burka is an invitation to gawk. And of course there's the whole thing where everyone's so quick to label people "hipsters" and assume they hate them without ever exchanging a word.  What people intend to say with their clothing and what people assume they're saying are often pretty different. Usually someone's clothing just means "I like how I look in this clothing" and has little to do with how other people perceive it. Again, who knows. But in general I've only found one group of people that I didn't like when I've given them a chance, fat people. In general people are people. Hell, I mean it's called subculture for a reason. We're all a part of the same larger culture and have far more in common than different. You and a fit punk probably have way more in common than either of you do with a fat person of the same subculture.