Oh, you're absolutely right. For both men and women, "slender" is the ideal body type. My friends and I call the ideal Korean shape a "ropey marshmallow". Here is a good example (Lee Ji Woo). Not what anyone would call "fat", but I'd like to know what the body fat percentage on her is. For men, they tend to have a lower body fat percentage so you can make out a musculature but nothing you'd consider "muscular". Park Sung Jin is a good example. Some of the boy bands are bringing in a lightly muscled physique, but it's nothing too crazy. Hell, I'd call Justin Bieber "beefier" than they are...and I'm bigger than Justin Bieber as a woman who lifts.