Minirant. What absolutely infuriates me about people like fbb. I know we don't like the whole genetics thing in here. Because fats use it to hamsplain why they can't lose weight, but we do all agree that genetics do play roles in certain things from frame, fat and muscle distribution etc. Take someone like me. I have to be careful with what I eat. Because at 5 foot and a half and averaging 103ish lbs 5 lbs(well 10 honestly but I feel bloated once I pass 105 or so) either way has a noticeable effect. If I want to go a certain route I have to plan it out in advance, figure out what I need to eat, how much I need to excercise etc. If I go past a certain threshold my body feels tense,  and I feel horrid all around. So what I have trouble understanding are all the large people that sling their weight around one way or the other without issue. So when we have people like fbb who can casually lose half my body weight in around 3 months I get infuriated. But that's not the worse part. Even if he were to eat nearly 3000 calories a day currently he would still slowly lose weight.  And he is still a good 30 lbs overweight depending on what part of the day it is. And even while being a third of my weight overweight, he somehow has muscle definition coming through in areas. How in the fucking hell can he be developing his v again while he still has a gut. And that bs shoulder pic he sent a week or two back was taken from the worst possible angle he could have. I actually checked it myself today since we are planning another outing to dicks to grab some weights for him. I can sit the heel of my palm inside his collarbone and my fingertips barely go past the crest of his shoulder muscle. I know I have small hands but this is beyond stupid. Why are genetics like this wasted on people like fbb who don't use them to their full potential. Yes once upon a time he was swole and actually used it but he fucking wrecked his body. He added on slabs of fat. He shouldn't be getting it back this fucking quickly. He should have to work at it. And the best part of all this. Is even if he goes back go full human or shredded beast. We can't use him as an example to shame fatties because genetics bullshit. Because he's ex military. Because he's a former lifter. Because he has a massive frame. And that's why I'm pissed off. This whole experiment was to get me some free rent, and laugh at a fatty failing, to give you guys anecdotes about fatty tantrums etc. Yes there was the slim chance he would do it but deep down none of us actually believed it.  Sorry. Fbb pissed me off earlier. He made a comment that he would teach me to squat and use weights if I wanted to tone up a bit so I had to rant a bit but the thing is He still has fat. He doesn't deny it in the slightest. He hit the original goal weight for the end of august. He intends to ride this diet and workout plan until he has no choice and his lifts start suffering. He is planning for a couple months from now when he has to switch out of it. His father has no issue with this.  I somehow feel like I lost. I don't know why. By all definitions I won. In a way I'll be getting a friend back. I mean he was there this whole time but it wasn't him. He used to be this cocky self assured asshole that would help you out without any questions.  Then he became this egotistical without reason sadistic asshole when he got fat. And he's coming back.  I see more of the old him every day. I have 3 months of my former rent amount saved up now. I got to learn how to handle firearms, fix minor issues on my car. I saved gas money, I had a support network in place between work, his family, and what friends he had left to make sure I never got screwed over this whole time. You guys were helpful in many ways. And while the social isolation was a bit unnerving at first it gave me time to take a look at myself and realize not all of my relationships were the healthiest and to let go when needed.  So why does it feel like such a hollow victory. Fucking fats ruin everything, even winning. Small edit: fbb read the thread, he said I should change shoulder muscle to traps otherwise people may confuse it for his deltoid which while they need work aren't his former pride and joy. Plus it makes more sense.