In American Vanity sizing that's like a 30. Plus don't forget, they fucking put lycra and spandex in everything now, even jeans. I have to usually buy expensive jeans as I'm tall and thin, and certain high end retailers (lookin at you, 7 for all mankind) have started putting lycra in even their smallest sizes. If I wanted sweatpants, I wouldn't be buying fucking jeans. Fattys need to stop reeeeeing abs running everything, there's a reason they don't sell your God damn size lardo