Points duly noted. But if only to avoid handing them ammo, there are some things we can refrain from to make their attempts much harder. Also, I was on a mission of goodwill to find out how they thought, because I wanted to get the pulse of how they really thought, not from a distance, but by truly trying to look at the world through their eyes with as much sympathy to their views as I could. My ability to do so stopped when I realized just how fanatical their views were and just how little respect they had for dissent of any kind, and I cannot and will not support any side that can never admit they may be anything less than 100% correct and that does not respect my right to dissent with them. Some of their ideals are reasonable in some ways, or at the least good intentioned, but what they are willing to do to achieve them is beyond monstrous.