Is it just me or is KIA on le reddit getting kinda circlejerky? Also, I think Jim was right, and I think this goes much much much farther than we know... Hands down, still the best sub (and last censored) on reddit, but I'm noticing it's become tabloidy and feely. It dawned on me when they talked about banning Ralph retort. Ralph is an asshole, but he's no Gawker. He doesn't claim to be a journalist, he claims to be an asshole. Yet people jumped on board cause he hurt their feels. In retrospect, I think Jim was right about a lot of GG. It was foolish for people to try and get the media to change its mind on how it is reported, especially given the media conspiracy that it has uncovered and how far it goes. Attack attack attack was all we needed to do. The fact that people are still trying to win over "fence sitters" is laughable. GG is a topic that you either decided you wanted no part of, or picked a side. If you want my tinfoil hat conspiracy on it, I think PR companies are behind a TOTAL media conspiracy, have plans/collusion that we have not/may never uncover, and when silverstring got outed and legobutts & DIGRA were exposed many others who ran in the same circles went into overdrive to the point of even overdoing it.  Why do I say this? PR companies have no accountability and the whole existence is based around building connections and circles. Something you suggested backfired? Not your fault, you client should of sold it better! Your client isn't gonna say anything back either because your job is to stay in their dirt. Notice how we are seeing a push to control the internet AFTER GG. Notice how the media smear moved into mainstream when Silverstring was outed. Notice how Silverstring seems to only work with tech clients. Why does it always tie back to academia? Why do they all live in the same area? I mean I know cities have their own culture, but not like this.  I think this goes WAYYYYYYY deeper. Why are companies doing things that are PROVEN to HURT their bottom line? Part of it is secret Gov compensation, we know this, but they aren't shelling out the kinda money we think they are. Part of it is selling to advertisers, but if you start losing growth and get caught faking your numbers advertisers won't fuck with you. Why are advertisers overpaying for overpriced ad realistate?  Part of what I think is going on with PR firms is survival. It's hoping to misdirect to keep more like good ol' legobutts from being exposed. Why haven't we heard a single thing about any other PR firm knowing damn well there are more involved? After all, you can't make money if your PR firm is the first PR firm to ever be destroyed in the public eye. Wanna notice a strange trend? How many actors and actresses became outspoken on feminist causes after "the fappening."  How many actors and actresses are now cheering and rooting loudly for causes that otherwise would just ignore because they aren't super political and don't want to upset part of a demographic. Yes, I am aware that some of the actors and what not are always left leaning and outspoken. Others however are not, and I don't think it is just a sudden passion in politics that is causing it. Why is it we caught scarlett johansens hacker, as well as every other celebrity hacker in the past, yet despite a ton of evidence pointing to who leaked the fappening there has not been a single arrest or a single security flaw found? Most of all how is it this can be given away on 4chan of all fucking places? 4chan is known for blocking proxies and banning users left and right. Also, anyone read the breitbart tech article about how feminists are now POACHING open source figureheads? My unfounded conclusion: The web was never able to be censored China style because people would flip. We've seen almost over a decade of companies getting their shit kicked in by nobodies online by exposing them. Our congress who writes the check for the gov programs (people that get into jobs with massive job security and no accountability) gets all of its money from inside trading and "lobbiest" are tired of their sociopathic egos being bruised. Gov agencies do not like funding cuts and will often times blackhole money into pointless projects to keep funding secure. PR agencies secure and divide up sections of public figures to get paid to care about and spin perception, even going as far extort celebs debaucherous behavior (and who can blame them, they are hot, most never went to college, and live in a town that lets them do what/who ever they want). People listen to celebrities and have influence, but can only speak so much before being seen as preachy. Bloggers wanna all be celebrities but have no skills other than talking shit online with varying degrees of skill. Some where in this brew, someone or some entity needed something and after many think tanks and meetings determined marketing is the best way to win people over and feminism is the perfect tool to shield those working and attack/silence enemies. I have no answers. I only have questions I will never get the answer to.