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Exactly seven years, six members of the Baquero family, resident in Torrejón de Ardoz,
in the province of Madrid, began to notice the symptoms of what in the beginning was called
atypical pneumonia, then legionella, and after a long list of names to which I paint more.
It was not to be called first a toxic oil syndrome, which was already beginning to orient
the public opinion towards a certain degree of this intoxication, and then, and so we now
know it, toxic syndrome, simply.
It has been one of the disasters in the public health of the Spanish state, but the most important,
one of the most important.
Today we are going to address this issue because it seems that it is not very clear that the
cause of this toxic syndrome is the oil of colza, it is something that we are going to try to
highlight. A little while ago, last week, the weekly interview launched an almost accusation,
a report on this topic, the toxic syndrome, in which a author mentioned, the author of
a book that states that the toxic syndrome is not produced by the oil of colza.
There is also another book, this author is Andreas Faber-Kaiser, who is here with us today,
and this book is Pact of Silence. There is also another book in Germany, written by
a German, a German subject, Gudrun Greunke, who lives in Spain for more than 20 years and
who seems to know quite well.
The titles of the weekly interview say exactly, after a year of sessions, it is referred to
to the judges for the toxic syndrome. After a year of sessions, the oil is not yet
the culprit, that is, it is not shown that it is the oil the culprit.
Four days ago, in the conclusions of the trial, three of the defense lawyers affirmed
that the toxic oil was not the oil of colza, it was not the culprit of the toxic syndrome.
We are going to try to highlight, as much as possible, by the author of the Pact of
Silence book that we have here, the reality of this phenomenon.
Andreas Faber-Kaiser is licensed in philosophy and letters, specialized in the integration
of aspects of our history that the established powers try to hide. I am reading the controversial
book, he obtained in 1972 the national prize of astronautics, Julio Marial, he was director
and editor of the magazine Mundo desconocido, prestigious worldwide as one of the first,
the first three publications in its genre and awarded in 1980 with the Cinter prize,
to the best specialized magazine. In the first page of the book, the presentation
of the book, we read, the occultation of the true cause of the toxic syndrome prevented
the healing of thousands of Spaniards, this is a very serious statement, it is practically
an accusation, it is serious. And then in the controversial, we read nothing less,
science at the three months already knew that it could not be the oil of colza, at the
eight months already knew how to cure the affected, and yet there are 25,000 affected, more than
25,000. The power accuses and imprison the industrial oil of colza and hides more
than 25,000 sick people, the possibility of their healing, that is, it hides more than 25,000
sick people, it hides, it hides, it hides. Well, I explain a little, at the end of three
months of the epidemic, there were already doctors, researchers who had rejected, no longer in
pneumonia, which was the first thing the government said, a pneumonia is by air, by air, they have already discarded them.
On May 5, Dr. Muro and his team discarded pneumonia, when, up to a month later,
still, by television, they were saying that it was a pneumonia.
From Dr. Muro we will have to talk about it later, because the case is serious, the case of Dr. Muro.
Well, on May 5, this was the first to detect it, on May 5 it already discarded any
thing that was not digestive. The breathing, the inhalation, it was impossible because they had
affected all of my family and the entire population sector that lived in the affected sector.
So it was impossible to affect two people, and at the same time, the variation of others, no.
Well, they are a series of long conclusions to explain here.
Yes, in any case.
But, well, on May 5, it is only possible to be digestive.
And, little time later, it already makes predictions of where there are new cases.
All this is communicated day by day to the Ministry of Health, and the Ministry of Health
does not make any case of its observations.
Yes, in addition, in the book, not only is there all the research that has been carried out,
but there are the documents in Faximil.
Exactly, yes.
The letters, sent, signed, of course, the notarial, statistical, carried out,
that is, there is all the documentation that backs everything that is signed in this book.
Exactly.
Since these affirmations are backed by official documentation.
That it also consists, on top of being the government, consists of that principle,
that knowing that it can be cured, and how to cure, people are not cured.
Well, they are not putting their hair on the tip, right?
This is serious.
What is serious is that it has happened that there are 25 affected people,
it is the same as in Spanish or in Spanish, humans, and that this can happen at any time,
if we do not alert ourselves, if we do not tell this story.
What can happen again?
What does it mean?
That this can happen.
Today I can eat a tomato, another fruit, tomorrow, and take it again.
And you too, and the viewers.
We see that no one, not only me.
There were many tests, but I think that is obvious now, it is no longer necessary to plan.
There were many tests, and it was said that if it was the pneumonia, that it was the air.
If it was the pneumonia, if it was the nicoplasma, if it were the birds, if it were the pine trees in the mountains,
they came to the Americans to make these affirmations, to make these conclusions.
And against the American studies, there is already that they are interposing today,
in the United States, against the American government too.
For false testimony.
Because all of them are focusing the subject towards the oil and colza,
at the root, apparently, of a telex that arrived here, to the government.
It was still in May, saying that it had to be pointed towards the oil and colza,
as a cause of epidemic.
Well, then, when Muro, he had already left the other Muro,
to investigate the oil, he also had it in his bathroom of possibilities,
but he discarded it one day before the government began to suspect the oil.
When he came back from his research, the government was going.
And, well, there are all those who want to.
And this with the help of the doctors who were saying what it really was,
they were ignored, they communicated daily to the Ministry of Health,
their findings, and where they had to investigate.
And, well, they were quiet and separated from their positions.
For example, Muro was dismissed from his office as Director of the Hospital del Rey
for saying that it was a digestive route, not for saying that it was an oil,
but for saying that it was a digestive route on May 15, 2014.
So, if it has not been the oil of colza, or the pine trees, or a pneumonia, or anything like that,
what is the real cause of the oil?
Because this seems to me to be the great revelation of this book.
Yes, well, it is not the revelation of the book.
I put in light the many ideas that have been released.
Well, the revelation of the book.
Yes, yes, as a book.
It seems to me that it was a kind of truth.
Yes.
A secret to voices.
It is a combination of three products, organic and phosphorous.
I have already said that they are pesticides.
What does it mean? Insecticides?
Insecticides to be applied to plantations.
No, not by the air, not by spray or by spraying,
but through the root.
It is a insecticide that is applied to the earth.
To the earth.
And it enters.
With the river.
For example.
Yes, well, in the dry.
In other words, it is good.
It is like a good for the earth.
Ah, well.
It is applied to the earth, it enters through the root of the plant,
in this case with tomatoes,
that is, the transuranacea, the pepper, for example,
in this case with tomatoes,
it enters in the fruit and with the juices of the tomato,
in this case it metabolizes inside the fruit,
and it increases the initial toxic,
which is toxic, it is poison, to be human.
It increases the toxicity 700 times,
and this is what the most serious ones died.
But let's see.
This...
Well, let's see.
Yes, yes.
I have a question that is important.
There are effects.
Yes.
Because the tomato is a plant that, well,
who knows the field, knows that the plant is growing,
it is forming tomato plants.
Yes.
And then in the first harvest,
which is more toxic,
because toxic is still being metabolized,
this toxic inside the tomato is foreseen,
according to the production of toxic,
so that it metabolizes in a potential time in the tomato
and loses all its toxicity,
then you can recollect it and eat it, nothing happens.
You will have to recollect it before all this process has been metabolized.
Yes.
So the most serious are those who ate first,
those who had more toxic,
and as soon as you were losing,
you were lowering the tomato of the tomato,
you took the tomatoes,
and more metabolized,
and less toxic.
There are differences in the affected.
There are degrees of affectation,
depending on the toxicity that the tomatoes were taking.
It will also be a chemical toxic,
not a biological toxic,
it is not a biological war,
but a chemical one,
I have experienced it there,
an essay.
It is the most poisonous,
the most affected,
and it is the opposite in the case of the affected.
The more toxic you take,
the greater the degree of affectation.
In exchange, the oil,
the topic of oil,
the ones that have more oil are less affected,
and the ones that have less are more affected,
which is all the opposite
if they were really toxic in the oil.
That is, I have given you a poison,
a strychnine, for example,
and we take it in other two,
and you take more than me,
because you fall before me,
it is very clear.
It is clear to us.
You have mentioned the word
essay.
What kind of experiment,
what kind of essay is this,
if you can know?
Well, it was done in Spain
without knowledge,
I want to wait and believe
of the Spanish authorities,
because it will be much more serious.
An experiment of the application
of new products,
of the last generation of phosphorus
to see its possible future application
to a chemical war.
But you mean that it was applied
consciously in a plantation,
in a harvest,
that it was known
that it was going to be sold
to commercialize later,
and that the experiment,
we are talking about what it was about,
was to see the effect
that humans produced?
I do not know anymore.
Exactly, yes.
That experiment,
do you think it was consciously made?
Yes,
the idea that maybe it was
something that escaped from the hands
or an error of the agriculture,
once again,
and the agriculture is not the culprit,
as it is not the...
the many,
how can I say,
machinists,
who die in remf,
and are the culprits,
who are always dead,
and I accept one,
who was saved,
and therefore it was not the culprits
of the machinist,
because I can explain how the story was,
surely he died a couple of months ago.
If he had died,
it would also be a human failure.
It is very difficult.
Although it has nothing to do with it,
it is a bit more practical.
Yes, well, it is a...
From whom are the culprits in this country,
I suppose,
and others too.
It was an experiment
aimed at seeing what effects it produces,
and the most brutal thing
that I have heard in Madrid,
which I do not say in the book,
but it seems too brutal,
but well,
it can be said here,
is not to ask,
well,
because we have cured these patients,
it is that if we cure those patients,
the experiment is over,
and this is very serious,
and it is the most serious accusation of the book,
perhaps without saying this phrase,
but,
but yes,
that is,
first,
if we cure the patients,
we demonstrate what it was,
if there is a cure,
it can be immediately known
by the type of curation,
what was the cause,
and this is what
he tries to silence the pact,
with what title of the book,
and secondly,
the experiment is over,
which is a long experiment,
to see how this poison is acting
in the human body,
and how the disease evolves,
which has many different phases.
Attack the nervous system,
because I have seen this oil,
how does this oil act,
this product,
this toxic product,
which seems to be...
Well, it is a toxic product,
which in fact,
the
product of the drug,
the specific field,
and the specific combination
of the three products.
There is an entrance,
which is a fossilized uncle,
uncle,
is the clinical particle,
which is a natural,
it is sulfur and sulfur together,
and the specific product
was detected
by one of the characteristics
of the infected,
which was the insomnia,
insomnia of 15 days,
which appears in the first week,
and in all,
100% of the infected
have been infected with insomnia
already in the first week.
It means that they cannot sleep.
The most fortunate,
for 15 days,
and the least fortunate,
they were in six months
and they could not sleep.
Six months?
Six months, yes.
But it can practically destroy
a person psychologically.
Part of it, physically.
Part of it was accompanied by
picores,
exanthemas
and picores in the hands.
They have affected
that they have reached
to start the skin,
to scratch the picores,
and to reach the dermis,
not the epidermis,
but the dermis,
which have cut almost the nails,
I mean,
of everything,
so that they cannot scratch,
there are horrible anecdotes
in all aspects.
Well,
all these symptoms,
especially the insomnia,
have indicated,
very specifically,
which of the products
of the many ranges,
of the large range
of pesticides products
that were in the Spanish market
at the time.
We know the origin of
this,
the origin of this detail.
Well,
because here in the book
there are labels
of a specific house,
that I don't know if...
I want the Spanish to know
that this is very clear.
I mean,
it is not a Spanish house.
It is not a Spanish essay.
It is in Spanish soil,
for very specific and special circumstances,
of why it was made here.
Yes.
With consent,
with knowledge,
or not with knowledge
of the Spanish government,
I don't want to think that,
no.
Besides,
there are no evidence at this time,
that, well,
change 16 is what
they are saying to me.
Change...
Change...
It came out with a cover
a few years ago, in 1985,
I think I remember.
Yes.
In 1986, I don't know.
Well, specifically...
A cover that said
a product buyer
in Veneno, Spain.
Yes,
specifically the cover
of the number 681
of change 16,
of the change 16 magazine,
for anyone to document
from 17 to 24
of December of 1984.
And the title said,
Scandalo Colza,
according to new investigations,
a product of the house
buyer in Veneno, Spain.
At the beginning of this cover
and, well, the article that
is inside,
the house buyer
started a creia
against change 16.
And then,
suddenly,
he changed the creia
for an offer
of a very important sum,
that goes to the hundreds
of millions of pesetas,
so that,
simply,
for the house...
For the change
of the magazine.
The group changed,
changed opinion
and does not insist
on this line
and...
and also blame the oil.
Yes, in any case...
Which one?
Which one?
It was achieved.
It was achieved.
What do you mean,
it was achieved?
It was achieved.
Well, here...
It is not the only offer.
Well,
Dr. Muro received offers,
I do not say that,
I do not say it.
Yes.
But he received offers...
He received offers.
He received an offer of 20 million
just to stop investigating.
And,
when Negar received
the end of 15 days,
an offer of 200 million,
which also took place.
And, well,
in the end he died.
Well, there...
But, the money ran,
the blanket...
I think he died of a lung cancer.
Of a lung cancer,
if you are not informed, right?
Yes,
he has nothing strange,
although many people
want to take him to his experiments.
Yes,
because he is talking a lot about that,
is not it?
Yes,
but I do not believe it.
What is curious,
is that Dr. Muro
formed a team of five specialists,
investigating the masochists,
and of the five specialists,
in a few months,
in a matter of three or four months,
he died of cancer,
his...
An assistant?
An assistant of the field
that he had,
died of cancer,
and two more components of the team
were...
were operated by cancer,
a woman of cancer of ovaries,
a woman of cancer of ovaries,
a woman of cancer of ovaries,
and, well,
they are well cured and so on.
But, well,
four or five have been affected by cancer,
in a matter of months,
which is a little curious,
at least as a statistic,
something that other of the...
Well,
the person who knew the most about the Spanish level,
the official level of...
of...
of the original syndrome,
was Juan José Rosón,
and who also died,
a few months later,
of cancer and lung cancer, too.
Cancer and lung cancer, yes.
In the book,
even,
they are copied,
they are published,
the labels of these...
Of the products, yes.
Of these products,
there are names,
I don't know if...
Yes, it is important,
because at that time,
it was...
The label of the same product,
from one time to another,
in the...
From 1960 to 1982,
the label was changed.
Not because of the 81,
for example,
it is not indicated that it can be used for tomatoes,
then it is indicated in the second label in 1982,
but in both,
it is said that it is a phosphorus,
that it carries phosphorus.
This is hidden,
absolutely,
and to the...
to the distributor himself,
of Bayer.
And I keep saying that,
it was not necessarily this Bayer product,
it was a Bayer product,
that caused the epidemic,
but yes,
Bayer commercializes the only product
that at that time,
could cause this in Spain.
In my opinion,
it is a product,
but identical in its composition.
Yes,
it is identical,
and that we do not know.
And I have always thought that,
well,
that the Bayer house,
also because of this,
it has to be responsible for the waste,
because I can buy a house estate car,
it will kill with this car,
and not because of this,
the house estate is responsible,
it is the user,
the one who has used this.
What is very suspicious,
is the offer of the Bayer house,
here in 16,
of the hundreds of millions,
and above all, the defense,
the Bayer house,
publishes an internal bulletin
for its employees,
and for its technicians,
in which it defends
the accusations against Bayer,
and in the book,
one after the other,
the points that already
lead to defense,
which are one after the other,
a lie of the reality,
and I show it there,
the point,
because of the lie
that they are making
with each of the conversations.
So,
if the Bayer house,
if it were not responsible
in any way,
would not be supported
in a series of lies
to defend,
simply.
And this, of course, is suspicious.
Well,
at the moment,
suspicious,
I would also like to say
that they may want to defend
their image,
although, I don't know,
we already know,
the large multinational houses,
the commercial houses,
are sometimes played,
well,
normally,
in cases of this type,
they are playing thousands of millions,
and then,
it is possible
that they attend
all kinds of arguments.
For example,
in the case of SIDA,
the Bayer house was responsible
in Germany,
that half of the 6,000
Germans have today in SIDA,
because, as they have done,
a product
without control of SIDA,
and that has been carried out
with a product of energy.
And well, there it is paying,
and it has not been said anything,
it has not been defended at all.
It says that when,
when things are done,
it is more normal,
it also pays there,
nothing happens,
and if it were so normal here,
the story would have also been said,
but we are not others,
it has escaped today.
On May 1, 1981,
also,
it seems that it was
given to know the SIDA disease, right?
Well, not on May 1, 1981.
In 1981?
Well, in the same year, 1981.
In the same year, yes.
Not on May 1, of course.
It detects the SIDA,
which has already been damaged,
causing damage,
without, for example,
here I have a chapter
about the responsible
of World Health,
including the CDC,
the Center for Disease Control
in Atlanta,
in the United States,
which depends on the American government,
and the WHO,
the World Health Organization
in Geneva,
well, in Europe,
with the United States in Europe,
which, for example,
is detected in 1981, yes,
the SIDA,
but then it goes to Belgium, to Africa,
for example,
to try if there is SIDA in Africa,
and they detect in a single hospital,
in a week,
37 cases of SIDA,
of 100 years,
when the WHO was responsible
of the entire area of health
of Africa,
and it had not been known
in 15 years,
that there is a SIDA in Africa.
The SIDA, specifically,
even is responsible
of monkeys, right?
Well, yes.
To a macaco,
to a babuilo.
This is a great story.
African.
Yes, African.
No, no.
It is very, very funny,
but, well,
if this gets out,
it is said that a monkey,
a monocopula with a human,
or a human,
well, if this is done,
if this is done,
a monkey with a human,
and it is done,
it never happens,
I mean,
this is not it.
It is speculated,
there are three doctors,
and I bring the corresponding report,
a report from the SIDA,
in Spain,
and I have not published
more than in a very restricted magazine,
a report on the origin of the SIDA,
and there they speak clearly
and with a lot of tin,
of three doctors,
one in Berlin,
one in London,
and one in California,
that the three coincide
in affirming that the SIDA
is an artificial product
created by the human being
based on joining a virus
of the
human being.
So,
there is the discrepancy
of the human being,
but well,
this was a manipulation
in the laboratory
of these two viruses
and it was launched
within a framework
that is being given,
that the traditional war,
the chemical war,
and the genetic war
even exists, right?
Yes,
and the genetic war,
and the wave war,
and inactive,
today,
currently,
I mean,
that when they are given
treatments,
I have a cordial type
of cancer,
because I think it is absolutely
wrong,
and well,
it is out of place
its way of governing,
but I said something
very interesting
when they met
Golbachev
and Reagan,
in the United States,
and they went through London
before their meeting
and they said,
well,
as they do not decide
to remove the chemical weapons,
with everything they are affirming,
they do not agree
because they can no longer
build nuclear weapons,
that the chemical war
is much more serious,
much more uncontrollable,
and it is much more extended,
that in Germany,
in the south of Germany,
there are reserves
of bacteriological,
and not chemical,
to release and exterminate Europe
in one day,
which means
that it is much more serious
than this,
than nuclear,
even.
This war,
bacteriological and genetic,
it seems that it already has
an ancient tradition, right?
Yes,
well,
yes,
very ancient.
In the United States,
since the 18th century,
in which, in general,
it occurred to ask
an officer who was visited
by the Indians
in his fortress,
in the fortress of Pit,
to ask him,
well,
and you cannot extend
the plague
between the Indians,
and he turned around
and said,
well, why not?
And they took slices
of plague and infected
with the plague,
they put them
in the field of the Indians
and exterminated the Indians.
This was the beginning
of the bacteriological war
for the part of the United States.
Yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
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