A party doesn't talk about apartheid.
I get the EBGBs.
Our policy is one which is called by an Afrikaans word apartheid.
And I'm afraid that has been misunderstood so often.
It could just as easily and perhaps much better be described as a policy of good neighbourliness.
Accepting that there are differences between people.
And while these differences exist and you have to acknowledge them,
at the same time you can live together, aid one another,
but that can best be done when you act as good neighbours always do.
There was that fear, that stinking fear.
Before he says kafa, it gives you a big clap.
You get my point?
It gives you a big clap and then he says kafa.
Kafa is someone who's hidden, who's not enlightened, you see?
Which means cast.
Which means you are cast.
It's a word for unbeliever, somebody who does not have a relationship with God.
And not just has no relationship with God, he is also not worthy of being related to God.
You are stupid.
You are a black thing, you know nothing.
That kind of education is the one which was systematically structured in that way,
that when you get educated you cannot be in the same level.
That a white man or a white girl or a white woman can be.
It was made for black people to be under white people always.
It wasn't school for a couple of months during the school boy.
We travelled together with the train from B3 to Wambuk. As soon as we came to the corner,
the security police, the Caspers, the army came around the corner.
The sea of kids toy-toying, they moved into the school.
Within maybe half an hour after that, they shot tear gas into the venue.
They were walking kids and chasing kids to the houses.
When I was 15 years old, I was shot at.
They shot at just me, you know.
And the guy there was smiling at me.
And it was all these that looked like I couldn't be wrong.
But an African boy sitting in this vehicle looking down with military wear
and this kid was at high school.
We were very much in the dark about what apartheid was
and what effects it was having on our fellow Black South Africans.
We were so well indoctrinated in our schools and so brainwashed
that we didn't believe apartheid was wrong.
It's not only we, the Blacks, who were suffering.
Like you two coming in to meet, to come and see me.
You're corroborating your terrorists too.
There was a war.
Always the soldiers out here in the town, chasing people around, you know.
So like there were soldiers coming inside, sneaking in
and then giving people guns, people who had some certain trusted individuals,
you know, to defend themselves.
And then everyone was having that mission that,
if I can have a gun, if I can have a gun, you see.
When you were younger, were you ever tempted to go and not to run?
No, our gun, here, our gun, you see, since our gun.
These are our guns.
So that's why we don't carry guns now.
Because if you started carrying this gun while you were still young,
you will never carry another gun.
Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya!
Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya!
Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya!
Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya!
I used to play piano behind the curtains.
Yeah.
The bass player who was Mitch Bright,
used to play bass facing the audience and the drama.
But you couldn't see the...
Hey, stupid!
You couldn't see the pianist and the tenor man.
You just heard the sound.
Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya!
You two are so sensitive, you couldn't see what you wanted there,
even in closer to you.
You couldn't see just that verse,
to say the wake-up nation.
Then your agency, then your commons, you are a terrorist.
Jaya! Jaya! Jaya! Jaya!
Most people who put the paper in those alleys,
didn't have a clue of what the political situation actually was.
They just knew those fuckers.
And they needed to do something about it.
But you know, hunger has its way of liberating mind.
Insult and oppression itself.
You wake up one day and say that death is better than this.
I wonder if, apart from it,
during the apartheid era, without music,
millions of people could have died.
Because it was the only thing that they were only on.
Music is one of the powerful tools.
You can talk and talk and talk.
But if you start putting it on a piece of paper,
then you write it, then you sing.
And they will sing along with you.
They actually don't know that they are capturing it unconsciously.
Music
Our will to decide is very underdeveloped.
That side is very developed.
So that's why I find people are walking to that side
every week and every morning.
So this thing started from slavery.
It was this thing that they have to go to work and come back
and leave our families here.
People are waking up at four or five in the morning,
taking a bus or a train for two hours to the city to get to work.
Getting back home at least up to seven, eight.
It was not nine to five. It was a hell of a lot longer.
People are having the same problems of crying.
Children are doing this and that.
Because after school, our children,
they have no one to attend to them.
We are all doing it out.
Music
We missed the station.
I mean the station.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say.
Because there was no way you would stop your song.
Because that song was like combined.
Yeah, we called them to the train, man.
Music
Music
