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If knowledge is power, then the Vatican reigns supreme.
Welcome to Skywatch TV, I'm Derek Gilbert.
Tonight, the topic of our conversation, a movie that explores that premise.
True legends, the unholy sea.
Watch this.
They say this thing had been dead for maybe a day or two.
We estimated his size at approximately 12 to 10 feet tall.
The giants told the first team that they came across he was extremely big and fast and agile
for a guy that size.
The popes and the agents of the holy sea have known about the giants for many centuries.
And do you believe that they have artifacts from the past that would help explain some
of what's going on?
Absolutely sure.
The Vatican knows all the secrets.
The Vatican is secretly preparing for the arrival of alien saviors.
They seem to be intentionally creating dogma that is going to position the Roman Catholic
Church to be at the forefront of an official disclosure moment.
The Vatican is involved in the ufology in ways that they can't even imagine.
So while we're standing here in the headquarters of the Jesuits, tell us about Mount Grand.
They are constantly monitoring things with the Lucifer device.
Sometimes they have to wait for all of the UFOs to get out of the way.
I would like to tell you more about the Kara'i-sit-shing.
The gods are returning to the earth to dwell among men and mingle their seed with the human
race.
Only the truth can prepare us for the lie that's coming.
Coming soon.
In studio with me, the president CEO of Skywatch TV and a gentleman featured in the film, Tom
Horn.
Good to be here.
And the writer and director and the host featured in True Legends, The Unholy Sea, Timothy Alborino.
Tim, it's good to see you again.
Excited to be back.
Thanks.
This is a film that Tom has described as the best documentary he has ever seen.
And I've got to say, I'm not all the way through it yet, but the production quality
is excellent, but production quality is just, you know, the wrapping, the contents of this
film are really surprising.
You guys really brought some stuff to the table.
Well, it took a long time to put the film together, and it was a massive effort.
We upgraded our equipment, and we go to three different locations in this film.
So you know, obviously, we had a huge budget to go and do all of this and put it all together
because we wanted it to be TV quality.
I mean, we wanted our production to be good enough to go on the Discovery Channel or the
History Channel.
And Steve and I really worked hard to try and get a production that was at that level.
You succeeded in spades, that's for sure.
The line that I open the program with is something that you speak in the early minutes of the
film.
If knowledge is power, then the Vatican reigns supreme.
Why did you say that?
Because the Vatican has the most penetrating intelligence agency on the planet, and it's
called the entity.
It's referred to as the entity.
This is what the other intelligence agencies call the Vatican's intelligence agency.
Really?
So the CIA, NSA?
They refer to it as the entity.
And the reason why they call it the entity is because it is so enormous.
And not only is it enormous, it's old.
The Vatican's intelligence apparatus goes back to hundreds of years, certainly definitely
back to the Jesuits.
So you're talking multiple hundreds of years, and they've been collecting information not
only on nation-states, but also on arcane things, on relics from the past, the bones
of giants.
They're very, very heavily involved in the megaliths and everything to do with the mysteries
of the ancient world.
And not only are they involved in exploring these things and gathering the knowledge,
but they're also involved in covering things up and covering things open.
Bring things over.
You mentioned in the film, in the main locations you visit, Bolivia, Peru, that there especially,
but all over the world, the Vatican's had a practice of building churches on top of pagan
sites.
Why did they do that?
Well, let me say first that it was not our intention to go and try and figure out if the
Vatican is sitting on top of these ancient sites.
That wasn't really even on the radar for us.
We were going out, we were looking for evidence of the Genesis 6 narrative, of the fallen
angels and the giants.
And it just so happened that everywhere we went, we found the presence of the Holy See.
And not only the presence of the Holy See in these locations, but in many cases, churches
and chapels and monasteries and convents literally sitting on top of the ruins that belong to
the world before the flood of Noah and have been for many centuries.
And so we have to assume that the artifacts that are associated with these sites have
also fallen into the hands of Rome, so to speak.
Let me jump in here too.
I said that I insisted on being on at least one of these programs because I wanted to
look into the camera and tell people, it is true, Tom Horne, this is the best documentary
that I have ever seen in my life.
I mean, bar none, history channel, all them could only hope to produce stuff at this scale.
And I mean that in every way, content-wise.
I mean, it's explosive, the kind of stuff that you're uncovering in this documentary.
The way the script was written, the way the storyline kind of carries you on and it kind
of builds you on one point over the other.
Every time you think you've got to the core of this, all of a sudden it gets ratcheted
up and the story gets even bigger.
And then the editing, I mean, everything about this thing is absolutely highest level Hollywood
quality, which was astonishing to me because I've seen a lot of even good Christian documentary
productions.
But this, to me, this sets the brand new bar.
I appreciate you saying that.
Yeah.
Now, you mentioned a moment ago the Jesuits because I wanted to ask you a question about
this because I got to be in one little part of the film later on in the film.
A significant part of the film.
You guys, you and Steve and your team, you went to Rome, but you actually even wound
up getting into the Jesuit headquarters.
I mean, when I saw that, I'm like, okay, now how does that happen, right?
I don't know.
That's actually a pretty interesting story because when we were in Rome, it wasn't too
long after the attack in Paris.
It was, I think, just a week later or within the week that that happened.
So on that particular night, when we wound up in the headquarters of the Jesuit order
in the Jesuit, as it's called, the Vatican went dark.
And this was an unprecedented thing.
The Vatican doesn't go dark.
And what I mean by that is it literally went dark.
Actually at nighttime, the Vatican is lit up, the whole, all of Vatican City and everything's,
it's actually looks very beautiful the way that they light the whole place up.
And on that night, they went dark.
They turned all the lights off at the Vatican and there were police everywhere and there
were military personnel everywhere because they were expecting Rome to be hit.
Specifically the Vatican, the Basilica of St. Peter, which is very interesting when thinking
about your latest book, The Final Roman Emperor.
They were expecting it to get hit by ISIS.
And so this was one of the nights when we were walking around the Vatican.
And the only reason why we were able to penetrate into certain areas of the Vatican was because
we were with a friend of mine, Leo Zagami, who was a researcher on the Vatican.
And Leo was involved in the unions with the police in Rome and the Catholic police and
so forth, the police of the Holy See.
And so he knew the guard inside of the Jesuit headquarters.
So he took us over to the Jesuit headquarters, which, by the way, is situated not far from
actually within a half of a block from where some researchers, including Leo, believe that
the epicenter of occult activity at the Vatican resides right here in this very strange church
that's located down the road from the Jesuit, from the headquarters of the Jesuits.
So we walked down the road.
We were shooting at that church, we walked on the road, and Leo happened to recognize
the guard on duty, and he said, come in, you know, you can come in for five minutes.
And so we came in and we literally filmed that segment inside of the Jesuit, inside
of the Jesuits headquarters.
And here we are standing there, and we're talking about Mount Graham, and we're talking
about what the Jesuits are doing up on Mount Graham.
And so I thought it was just amazing how the work that you guys are doing and the work
that we're doing is just dovetailing.
Well, and he actually told you that they had not read our book Exhibit of Canada, but he
independently, yeah, you kind of kill my pride though, but he independently verified what's
going on on Mount Graham in support of what we had said, too.
And that part of the film, to me, also really stood out.
You had Leo Zuckami, you had John Mario, I can't say his last name.
John Mario Federmonti.
Yeah.
I mean, really famous billionaire-like guy, right, that lives over there.
And I was amazed.
They took you down there, showed you a church that has no entryway.
You got to come into these other buildings.
That's the church.
But, and he says, here's this guy, he's a friend of the Jesuits, they bring him right
into the Jesuit headquarters.
And those guys are sitting there and just calmly, they're saying, that's where the top satanic
rituals are held inside this church.
I'm like, what?
But very much in support of what Malachi Martin and others had said.
Yeah.
I mean, it's no secret that there are Luciferians at the Vatican, and that there are Satanists
at the Vatican.
This is to the traditional Catholics within the Holy See, this is a problem.
It's a growing problem.
And now we've seen the takeover of the Vatican by the Jesuit order, which is very interesting.
Which conservative Catholics would agree.
And there are some out there who are actually openly calling Pope Francis an anti-pope.
That's right, because we're seeing the dissolvement of the traditional Catholic Church.
And that's why we called our film The Unholy See, because the Holy See is the governmental
body of the Church of Rome.
And it's interesting that they call it the Holy See, because it's the seat of power.
And the term see is kind of an arcane term, an archaic term, which means basically a seat
of government.
But it's also a plan of words for us, because the Vatican sees everything, literally.
And it's an unholy see, because they're confiscating and hiding things, and have been for centuries.
And nobody would dispute that fact, that they've confiscated and hid information, documents
and artifacts concerning the pre-Flood world.
And as Tom points out in the film, and in his books, they're even now preparing the
theology that's going to correspond to an event that's coming in the future.
The revelation of extraterrestrial life, and the deception that's attached to it.
So this is, that's sort of like the exclamation point on the content in our film.
We'll talk about that event, and what the Vatican thinks it knows, and what they hope
to tell the rest of us after we tell you how you can get your copy of True Legends, The
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Timothy Alberino is our guest along with Tom Horn.
We're talking about True Legends, The Unholy See, and why the Vatican seems to be collecting
pre-flood artifacts, pre-flood information, and keeping it to themselves, keeping it from
the rest of us.
How are they going to take this information and spin it out to us, or are they just going
to keep it concealed so that we don't have any frame of reference to deal with what they
think is coming?
It's my opinion that some of the artifacts that they have and the knowledge that they
have, obviously everybody's aware of the secret Vatican archives.
This is something that the Vatican itself has made people aware of, that there are archives,
that there are books, manuscripts in those archives that nobody has ever seen except
for a very select few who will have access to those archives.
Now, you can gain access to the secret archives if you have the right connections in Rome.
You probably won't be able to read half the manuscripts in it, but you can gain access
to it.
And there are certain areas in the archives which I've been told are off limits to everybody.
However, what the Vatican doesn't speak about, what nobody talks about, and what you cannot
have access to are the secret vaults that exist beneath the Vatican.
That's where they actually have put things, artifacts dating from a couple hundred years
ago to possibly a couple thousand years ago and beyond.
And we know that these artifacts exist, and we know that the Vatican has had their hands
on them.
And so we can only assume that they've ended up in the vaults beneath the Vatican.
What sort of artifacts?
Well, in episode one of our series, we talked extensively about the idea that the chroniclers
of Peru, most of whom were priests of the Holy See, documented that they discovered
and recovered the bones of giants.
And we're talking about giants 15 feet plus.
And we know, because the chroniclers tell us, that some of those bones ended up in the
office of the Inquisition in Lima, in the capital of Peru.
And the bones were kept there, for what reason, where they kept there.
They were there, collected, and many people saw them and commented on them.
And so we can only assume that they made their way ultimately to the great archives and vaults
and collections at the Vatican, along with many other artifacts.
Remember that the Holy See, that the Church of Rome, the Roman Catholic Church, is, in
a sense, the continuation of the Roman Empire.
So the title Pontifix Maximus was a title that belonged to the Caesars of Rome.
And then was inherited by the Popes.
And so not only the prestige and to a degree the power of the Roman Empire was converted
to the Catholic Church, also the artifacts that the Roman Empire had gathered from the
different regions of the earth as they went and conquered, were also then now in possession
of the Popes of Rome and of the Holy See.
And so that's why the Vatican's intelligence agency is called the Entity, because nobody
knows more about the past than the ones who literally wrote history.
Who wrote history for us, for the modern world?
It was the Vatican, it was the Roman Catholic Church.
One of the other parts of the film that just really stood out to me is this Anselm P. Ramblin.
Am I saying that right?
That's right.
Like a famous archaeologist.
And they gave him, well, you tell a whole story.
Let me let you tell that story, because I found that to be extraordinary.
Well, Anselm P. Ramblin, when I was in the, I went to the, what's called the Quodicancia
in Cusco.
It's a very famous place.
The Quodicancia was the most important temple of the Inca.
It was, it was the central of their religious activity and their religious life.
And it's located in Cusco, Peru.
And it was, it was opulent.
The walls of the Quodicancia were completely covered from top to bottom in gold in some
portions.
They had a garden in the Quodicancia.
That was all gold and silver.
So all the, the corn stalks and everything was, was made out of pure gold and silver.
So this was a place of immense wealth and, but it also happens to be a, a location where
the Inca built a temple on top of a pre-existing temple, a pre-flood temple.
And the Inca knew that by the way, they called Cusco the city of the gods because when they
arrived, they found the megaliths.
So, uh, Antsum Piramba, uh, so later on, uh, when, when, when Cusco fell to the conquistadors,
to Francisco Pizarro, the, the Quodicancia was ceded to the Dominican order, to the
church of Rome.
And the Dominican order built their convent right on top of the ruins, both the Inca ruins
and the pre-flood ruins, and took over that whole situation there.
But before the city fell, the Inca took all of the gold and their most precious relics
and artifacts and, and hid them down in a secret underground world called the Shinkana,
which they did not build, but they made use of.
And this is the Shinkana is a pre-flood underground highway is the way that I would describe it,
an anti-Diluvian highway that connects both natural and artificial caverns and cities
under the ground.
And by the way, we find that this is universal all over the earth.
There's an underground world completely hidden from the public, and it is both ancient and
also of course the modern, uh, deep underground military bases that we're building today.
And they're connected.
Yeah.
So just, just as a quick aside, I've been reading on, on Canaanite and Babylonian mythology,
ancient Sumerian mythology.
And there was a, an aspect of the story of Gilgamesh, where the entrance to the, the,
the area inhabited by the gods was guarded by Chimeras, scorpion men, and they had access
that to try to find.
That's right, to the underground world.
That's right.
So Anselm Piramla was in, was in Peru, and he's a Spanish explorer and researcher, kind
of a famous guy, really smart guy.
He had a professional team with him.
He was in the 80s and, and I think it was 1983, if I remember right, or 82, uh, uh,
working, uh, doing some exploration at the walls of Saqsaywaman, which is a whole nother
issue.
And he went over to the church because he heard about this legend called the Shinkana,
this underground world that's been hidden and, and is secret and where there's all kinds
of treasure and stuff.
And so he goes over to the church and he wanted to meet with the prior of the Dominican order,
the head priest, and he met with him and he asked him, what, what do you know about this
legend of the Shinkana?
Because the archeologists say it's just a legend.
It's a lifestyle.
It doesn't exist.
So he asked the prior, what do you know about it?
And the prior told him, it's absolutely true.
And if you want, if you, if you'll come with me now, I'll show you.
And this is unprecedented because officially it doesn't exist.
So this prior proceeds to take him into the chapel.
They move a altar out of the way that's, that's covering up a hidden trapdoor.
They open the trapdoor and there's steers going down into a, a crypt that the, that the Dominicans
had built.
They went down there and Ansel noticed that there was a, that there was a hole in a brick
wall that was obviously made by the, by the Dominicans.
It's a very old crypt built in the 1600s.
And he, and, and he looked through the hole and he flashes flashlight through it and he,
they took some bricks down and they look back in there and he saw the shinkana.
And when I say saw the shinkana, segments of the shinkana are built, are constructed
with megalithic blocks and the, and the, and the hallways are built like, they're built
like a, like the letter A and, and, and they're lined with megalithic blocks and they run
for hundreds of miles in some cases.
And he saw the particular segment that runs from the Quodiconsha a mile for, for a mile
to the underground complex beneath Sak Saiwaman.
And the, and the, and the priest confirmed to him, that is the shinkana, the legends
are true.
Hmm.
And Ansel wanted to take the wall down and bring his team in and film.
And he said, he told me, and I put a little bit of, this is stories in the film, but he'd
kind of told me off the film too.
He said, the priest flipped out.
What have I done?
Oops.
I wasn't supposed to do, what am I doing?
No, no, no, no.
Seal it up.
You're not supposed to see this.
You're not supposed to be here.
You seem too much.
You need to get out of here.
The priest changed like that.
And so he drove them out of the church and, and it was years later, some seven years later
that Ansel was able to return.
It was extraordinary that he got permission and we talked about it in our film.
And long story short, they did a scientific review with ground penetrating radar.
They discovered that the priests of the Dominican order had blocked the entrance to the shinkana
with radar blocking debris.
They filled it in.
And, but eventually they were able to confirm, scientifically confirm that the shinkana exists.
It is present under the church of Santo Domingo in Cusco.
And that is, that proves our point that the Vatican is indeed sitting up.
And one of the things that really stood out to me too was there was a lot of secular news
coverage.
When you're telling this story and you're interviewing him, you did a Skype interview,
it's in the documentary, but then you keep cutting away to different secular news sources
that were reporting when he first came, what he was trying to do, when he got invited to
come back.
And yeah.
So it was a very well documented story, but you had the lead guy telling you, we absolutely
went in, we proved it, we noted, but they changed it.
When he came back, the altar was gone, the floor was blocked.
Tiled over, that's right.
And they kicked him out.
And they kicked the priest out for giving him and brought in another guy, right?
They did.
And they vilified him in the press.
Yeah.
They ultimately, he proved the existence of this legend, this huge legend of the shinkana.
He proves it exists and they vilified him in the press.
He had to go to the, I didn't put this in the film, he had to go to the Congress in
Peru and appeal to the Congress in Peru.
I mean, he was meeting with the president and everything.
And they swept it under the rug.
They besmirched his name and his company.
And nobody knows that the shinkana actually exists.
But the bottom line was, you verified, same thing we found when we went to Mount Graham
and found out why the Apache Endym were opposed to all that, anywhere there is the location
of what is considered to be a doorway, a portal, something metaphysical, right?
And any remains of an antediluvian world, anywhere you find that on earth, you'll find
the presence of the Vatican.
They're dominating and controlling the space and who can know what and what they can see.
But you guys did, man, you did an incredible job kind of kicking down some of those doors
and talking to the right people.
I was very impressed.
That was amazing.
Unprecedented.
Thank you.
We're just, we're nearly out of time.
And I know we've only scratched the surface of what's in the film.
We didn't even get to the C-130 pilot and we'll have to direct you to the archives and
the web exclusives at skywatchtv.com to find out what the pilot talked to them about.
But what are you and Steve Cuell working on next?
What is coming up next in the True Legends series?
Well, we have a lot of footage from Sardinia.
A lot of people are wondering, we've been talking about Sardinia a little bit.
And we've got all kinds of stuff coming from Sardinia.
We've got testimonies of people who actually dug up the bodies of giants, not mastodons,
not giant sloths.
These are the bodies of giants with necklaces and bracelets.
And last time I checked, dinosaurs don't wear jewelry.
Well, and also in this next documentary, you're going after the bones, the proof.
We are.
We're doing a lot of things in this next episode.
How much can you let out in the places where you're working without attracting too much
attention and making it difficult for yourself?
Well, I know that I'm only allowed to talk about right now, Sardinia.
There's some other things that we've gotten the works to.
Make sure you check out the Skywatch TV feeds on Twitter and, of course, our Facebook page,
where we discuss a lot of these events and post news stories.
Tom is very good about keeping us update on things in the news that aren't getting as
much attention from the mainstream media as they should.
And of course, more content, web exclusives from Skywatch TV and the Skywatch TV channel
at Roku and on YouTube.
Tom Alberino, the director, the writer and the host of the True Legend series.
Tom Horn, always a fascinating conversation.
The time goes by way too quickly.
We thank you for watching.
Once we keep watch, I'm Derek Gilbert, and this is Skywatch TV.
