At first we should start the conversation we drink.
Yeah.
Okay?
Alright.
Cheers.
Cheers.
You didn't get in?
That moment when I give them a construction, you can see the connection, but the connection
is always there. When I show this, I just show you how the connecting works.
This is the start.
You connect with the table yourself, but you also connect already by doing this, which
is the first act, really, with all the participants at the table.
The table, this is the work. You are part of the work. You don't look at the picture or
the sculpture. You are part of the table.
The visitors came. They didn't trust to touch the things.
I have to say to them, okay, you can touch it.
I was a little sad about it. I am looking for objects.
They want to touch, or they have to touch, like a door.
I come to the door. When you come in the opening, the only thing you have to touch is a door,
to the entrance. This was the start, working with doors.
They used it for presentation?
No, it was a bookshop. They built the walls.
I connect them. When you move one door, one wall, you have another space.
The individual reason is changed by the space.
The interruption repeated always. They have another reason together.
The interaction of people is an important part.
The work doesn't work without people.
In a conversation with somebody, sometimes the situation, I can't find the right words.
There's much more to tell than I can speak.
It's another communication by writing or by drawing.
I think that's art. I'm working with visual things.
I want to say something with that.
This is a machine, like an art machine, where the words are not enough.
When I take the pen and start to draw, it's getting in visual conversation.
I'm doing it to fix it on the paper.
This is the reason, because there are two papers and two pens, and they do the same.
It's not only for me, also for you.
