In Boise, Idaho, it's a special edition of 5 and 10 on Skywatch TV.
I'm Derek Gilbert.
Joining me, the associate pastor, redeemed ministries in Cleveland, Alabama, Brandon
Gallops.
And you notice I didn't introduce you as Carl's son, but that's okay, if you want to
call me Sharon's husband.
That's okay.
I'm with Sharon's husband, Derek.
Do they guys thank y'all for being here?
No, listen, thank you so much, Derek.
I appreciate the opportunity, man.
Your ministry, you are a pastor in your own right, and you've got a ministry that is focused
on a problem that is really a scourge in America.
One of the biggest issues I heard from employers when I spent four years in outside sales for
a steel company was that there were companies who wanted to hire.
We have work to do.
We need machinists.
We need welders.
We need roughnecks.
We need welds and work on equipment, but we can't find guys who are physically able
to work anymore because of drugs.
Yeah, yeah.
Can't pass a drug test or their bodies are shot, their minds are gone.
Or they don't have a driver's license anymore.
Yeah, no.
And there's so many things that go along with that.
And Derek, our ministry is so unique.
Our church actually started out of a transitional home for men coming out of drug and alcohol
rehabilitation centers.
As a ministry, we still own and operate that home.
We now house 23, we have the ability to house 27 men in that home.
At this time, we're actively seeking a location to try and open our own treatment facility.
We work with several treatment facilities in our area, all Bible-based Christian facilities,
because here's the reality.
There's two distinct sides to addiction.
We always hear about the physical, and you have a disease and an illness and all of that.
And listen, there's an element of reality to that.
There are physical things that go along with addiction.
I mean, look at the withdrawal process.
That's physical, brother.
I mean, it's brutal.
But there's a spiritual side to addiction, that if you do not cure the spiritual, you
will never cure the physical.
Now how do you go about addressing that part of it?
I mean, how does that manifest, first of all, and then how do you address it?
Yeah.
Well, listen, that's an excellent question.
And here's the reality, drug use, and especially the propheticness of drug use, is throughout
God's Word.
We don't see it in our English Bibles.
It doesn't make them wrong.
It's just a language issue, you know, but when we see the words most of the time in
the New Testament, when we see the words sorcery or witchcraft, the Greek word there, pharmacia,
goes direct.
The literal interpretation of that in Strong's Concordance is the use or administering of
drugs.
It's also where we get our English word pharmacy from.
Some of the closing words of the Bible, brother, Jesus says, outside of the gates will be with
the dogs, the sexually immoral on it, those who practice witchcraft.
And the word there is pharmacone, which is a derivative of pharmacia.
So I mean, even the closing words of the Bible, the words of Jesus, Revelation chapter 9,
there are four sins that are directly listed that will be prevalent after the blowing of
the sixth trumpet.
It's murder, thefts, witchcraft, pharmacia, and sexual immorality.
Tell me what four sins are more prevalent in our world today, you know.
And then the drug epidemic in our own country, 200 million people in our country roughly,
brother, are using prescription drugs.
Doesn't make all of them addicts or wrong, but that's how addiction starts for a lot
of people.
You have a backache or what that's legitimate.
You get some pills.
All of a sudden, the pills aren't doing the job or the doctor says, sorry, I'm not going
to refill your prescription.
Then you're buying those pills on the street.
Well, then you can't find those pills on the street or somebody says, here, use this.
It's better.
It'll give you, you know, more pain relief.
And next thing you know, they're shooting heroin or methamphetamine.
So how do you address that spiritual part of it to break people free from this addiction?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, listen, the worst side of it can literally be that they've opened the
door to the demonic, you know.
I mean, there's some deliverance that has to take place here.
Does that mean we need to run around casting demons out of everybody that's using drugs?
No.
But there's a time and a place for that.
I mean, I'm sorry, it's in God's word.
It's not pretty.
Church doesn't want to talk about it a lot of times.
But it's in God's word.
So there's a time and place, you know, where we have to, you know, call on the name of
Jesus to deliver these people and to remove those spirits from them, you know.
And I mean, then obviously there's people that are just dealing with oppression.
And there's a difference between, you know, a demonic oppression and possession.
How do people feel that difference?
How do, you know, if somebody is oppressed, what would that feel like?
Yeah.
As far as the feeling goes, I don't, you know, I've never been there as far as addiction.
I don't come from that background.
So I don't know that I know the answer to that.
And it doesn't always manifest as a drug addiction.
There are forms of demonic oppression.
Oh, absolutely, brother.
I mean, listen, gossip, lying, discord.
You know what I mean, all of those things, right?
Think about this, Derek, all sin is addiction.
Somebody thinks I'm lying right now.
Let me prove it to you.
If all sin is not addiction, don't get up and go on Facebook tomorrow and spread your
business and your neighbor's business that you ain't got no business talking about.
You see what I'm saying?
Don't be gossiping about people.
If you can stop doing that and never do it again, then you've proved me wrong, but you
know, not without the blood of Jesus, right?
You've got a thing.
I've got a thing.
We all have struggles and battles in our life.
Whatever it is, we cannot physically stop doing it without the blood of Jesus, you know?
There is a substance that's available in a lot of cough medicines today.
We became familiar with, aware of this because of people we're acquainted with that acts
on the mind in a certain way, that may open a doorway.
Is that something that you run into sometimes with some of the folks that you work with
where the drugs will literally open them up to perceive things that we normally cannot
and should not perceive?
Yes.
First of all, let me speak to the cough medicine issue.
A lot of people that are trying to stop using methamphetamines or heroin will go the cough
medicine route, and then they wind up drinking bottles of cough medicine.
Right.
DXN.
Yes.
Okay.
Now, secondly, yes.
I promise you, Derek, any man that I have ever counseled with that has been into hardcore
drug use, heroin, methamphetamines, especially injecting, mind altering, LSD, things like
that, every one of them, brother, not three out of four, not seven out of 10, every one
of them tells me, I've seen the other side.
I know the other side is real.
I've talked to the other side.
It is demonic to the core.
It is absolutely demonic, and it's in God's Word.
It's right there.
The thing that astonishes me-
Witchcraft.
You're practicing witchcraft.
Yeah.
I've had the opportunity to interview Dr. Rick Strassman, who wrote the book called
DMT, The Spirit Molecule, which is a chemical that's produced in very small amounts by the
pituitary gland, but it's also present in certain mushrooms in South America where there
are literally, it is a cottage industry of tourists who will go to South America specifically
to encounter it.
What is the tea?
Iahuasca?
I'm familiar with the name of it, but I'm very familiar with what you're talking about.
But anyway, to open up their mind to these experiences, Dr. Strassman actually, in his
most recent book, made the claim that this might be the process by which the Hebrew prophets
received revelation from God, and so we should experiment further to see how we can talk
to God whenever, this is something that the New Age movement is actively promoting, trying
to use a chemical means of accessing the spirit realm.
I recently read an article where a study had been done.
I believe it was with mushrooms, where they had gotten pastors from different religions.
I think Hindu was one of them, maybe Muslim, forgive me if I'm wrong in quoting, but different
religions of the world, I think a Catholic priest was one of them, and they subjected
them to these mind altering substances, and here's what's interesting.
Every single one of them claimed to have been revealed something that they had not been
before.
Listen, there are all kinds of spirits in the world.
What spirit were they communicating with?
Was it the Holy Spirit?
No, brother, that's available to you and I through the blood of Jesus and through being
in God's word and being in prayer.
I don't need a drug to do that, but if you open your mind, if you willingly say, I'm
going to open my mind, I'm going to practice witchcraft, I'm going to open my mind up,
I promise you, you will hear from a spirit, brother.
You will hear from a spirit, and it's brutal to watch the damage that it does to lives.
Families are ripped apart, individual lives are thrown away, the most talented people.
I always heard it said, best drugs don't discriminate, brother.
They're not just attacking poor people or black people or Hispanic or white people.
It does not matter where you live, how much money you make, this is a door that you do
not need to open.
And if you've already opened it, I beg you to get some real help, some Christian help
and seek help through the word of God, through the healing power of Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Where do people find out more about redeemed ministries?
You can look us up on Facebook, Redeemed Ministries, you can private message us there, that's
the easiest way to get ahold of us, and I mean, listen, we've brought people in from
other states and brought them into our ministry and helped them out.
My dad constantly refers people that come to him to us, not because he doesn't know
how to deal with it, but he sees that we're having success with it, and God has blessed
us with the ability to reach these people.
Probably 80% of our congregation in our church is either a recovered, recovering, or still
living in addiction right now, but we have created a place where these people can come
in.
Derek, I've seen people come to our church that literally shot up that morning, have an
encounter with the living God, brother, and never use again, 20-year drug users, come
to church drunk, you know, whereas if they walked into most churches in those conditions,
what would happen?
They'd probably be asked to leave, or shunned at the very least, probably asked to leave,
you know.
So, well, there is hope regardless of how tight a grip that enemy has on you.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Brandon Gallops, associate pastor of Redeemed Ministries in Cleveland, Alabama, is also
the co-host of Freedom Friday, a radio broadcast.
Tell people where they can hear that.
Yeah, Freedom Friday.
You can look us up on CarlGallops.com, and you can listen live there.
My father and I also host a line of prophecy TV together.
You can find that there again, CarlGallops.com, and on the P.P. Simmons YouTube channel.
So yeah, I'm very blessed to be able to do a lot of ministry with my dad.
It's incredible.
Yeah.
Very unique.
You can tell the way he talks about you.
He's awfully proud of you, and I can see why.
Thank you, Derek.
I appreciate it.
Brandon Gallops, we thank you for watching as we keep watching.
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