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Do ancient texts speak of a twelfth planet that orbits and a 3,600-year cycle, or is
it possible that the Earth was visited by ancient astronauts in our distant past?
Can you tell that I'm doing a parody of the ancient astronaut show?
Welcome to Skywatch TV, I'm Derek Gilbert.
This is a special web exclusive broadcast as we get ready for Halloween just by discussing
spiritual warfare, and today we talk about the links between ancient alien theory and
the occult.
Joining me on the panel is the author of the new book Saboteurs and Skywatch TV's CEO
Tom Horn, and the author of the Red Wing Saga, a series of fiction that teaches spiritual
warfare through storytelling.
Book one, Blood Lies, book two, brand new from Rose Avenue fiction, Blood Rites, Sharon
K. Gilbert.
I see.
Your hair is not nearly tall enough.
It isn't, but there's only so much room on this 16 by 9 screen.
He does have a tendency to do that.
They don't make statements.
They just ask questions.
Is it possible?
That?
And all the time I'm answering, no!
But in researching the forthcoming book that Josh, I was honored to write, co-write with
Josh Peck, and to be honest, he did most of the writing in the book.
But the section I dealt with really dug into the origins of the whole ancient aliens theory,
which is so prominent.
I mean, it's in its 12th season on television, that show, it really derives from the occult.
And you can draw very strong connections, just connecting the dots, starting with the
spiritism movement, Immanuel Swedenborg in the 18th century.
And from him to Helena Blavatsky, who built on the spiritualist movement founded by the
Orchid.
It was very big in the 19th century, which they are when I write.
In fact, she would have loved it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So Blavatsky should show up in that series.
Oh, she will be.
And so should Aleister Crowley, who comes after her.
Because they both believed, as did Swedenborg, that they were hearing from entities on other
worlds.
Yeah.
Swedenborg believed they were angels living elsewhere in the solar system.
Blavatsky said, no, no, the masters of ascended wisdom or ascended masters of wisdom who
are guiding humanity's development, Crowley thought he was hearing from Egyptian gods,
and specifically in aspect of the god Horus.
So he was kicking off the eon of Horus around 1904.
From there you get the Crowley's acolyte, who was named his successor of the Ordo Templi
Orientis, the OTO, his secret society, Kenneth Grant, who detected what he called a serious
set current, or a set serious current, referring to the Egyptian god of chaos, set, and the
star, serious.
And so he believed, okay, now we're moving from the eon of Horus into the eon of set,
this eon of chaos, and we need to learn how to master chaos if we're not going to be destroyed.
But interestingly, Grant thought that the horror fiction author, HP Lovecraft, who created
the Cthulhu mythos, and Cthulhu was this monstrous octopus-headed, tentacled, scaly being with
bat-like wings who laid dreaming in his giant city under the sea, waiting for the stars
to get right so he would awaken and summon the great old ones to return to earth.
Again, this idea that there are gods out there who created us in our distant past and are
just waiting to return.
Well, his work, according to Grant, was drawing on the same spiritual source as Alistair Crowley.
And in fact, researcher Peter LeVenda points out that in 1907, Halloween, Crowley was channeling
whatever it was that was talking to him, wasn't an Egyptian god, it was something claiming
to be.
He wrote down the word tutulhu for the first time, claimed to have no idea what it meant,
tutulhu.
October 31st and November 1st, as he was channeling some of the books that became the holy books
of his religion, Telemah.
In 1926, HP Lovecraft, in writing the story, The Call of Cthulhu, placed the discovery of
a little statue of Cthulhu on October 31st, that very night in 1907, the very year and
very day that Crowley, now, according to Grant, according to LeVenda, Lovecraft didn't know
who Crowley was.
May have heard of him, had no idea what his work, Lovecraft claimed to be an atheist
all his life.
But the odds of this happening of Crowley writing down tutulhu and Lovecraft coming
up with that and placing the discovery of this thing on the very night in his story
that Crowley was channeling this, just astronomical.
An astronomical, and I would suggest perhaps they were channeling something, agents of deception,
which even some of the secular researchers in the euphology and the whole idea about
alien abduction, some of the best, who is the French Jacques Valais, saying that after
all of those years of research and interviewing people who were abductees, and who was the
psychologist that-
Dr. John Mack.
Yeah, they got hit by a car and killed.
But they all came to a similar type of conclusion, that whatever this is, it seems to be nearly
identical to the age-old theological discussion around demonology and demon possession and
demonic activity.
Now I was thinking, as you were talking, and you know these facts better than I do,
but that this isn't just an antiquated idea with Lovecraft and Crowley and guys like
that, but a lot of the modern people in the UFO circle are also still saying that they're
in communicato.
Right, right.
They're talking with these entities right now about the forthcoming official disclosure.
Some of this was picked up in the recent WikiLeaks discoveries.
But from what I understand, because you guys just came back recently from Roswell, what
was that?
Was it their 70th?
70th.
Which is why we went, because biblically that's an important number.
Yeah, so the 70th, and you talked to a lot of the people that were there, not just Mike
Heiser, you did that too.
And in fact, we're going to be giving away kind of a quasi-documentary where you went
behind the scenes with a lot of the experts in this field and talk to them about are we
moving towards official disclosure, if we are, why do you think we are?
And what is the spiritual element behind this?
But you found out there were people that are members of what, like Mufon or whatever.
They don't like some of the other people talking about being in contact with spirits,
right?
Right, yeah.
Mufon has been co-opted at a very high level by the ancient aliens crowd.
And this idea that there is a secret space program and that entities are in contact with
us, you know, the ash tar command or whatever, are communicating via telepathy with certain
contactees here on earth.
Now, I have no doubt that those contactees, at least some of them, are hearing from something.
But it's like Alistair Crowley, it's like Kenneth Grant, it's like Helena Blavosky,
whatever they're hearing from, ain't who they think it is or who they're claiming
it is.
You know, and it was the work of Crowley through HP Lovecraft who inspired, you know, this
whole idea of the old gods coming back, you know, they created us and they're coming back.
Inspired Eric Vandenekin to write Chariots of the Gods.
And then in 1976, inspired Zechariah Sitchin to write The Twelfth Planet, you know, Planet
Nibiru's coming back and that's where the Anunnaki live and the Anunnaki, who were the
Sumerian gods, really created humanity and they're going to come back and, you know,
who knows what will happen then.
But there are people today who still believe that they are channeling contact from these
ascended masters or whatever.
In fact, one of them is a New Age teacher is the nice way to put it.
Some would call her a cult leader who is a member of the Mufan Inner Circle.
There are 13 members of the Mufan Inner Circle.
13, eh?
13, yes.
And I always find these numbers interesting, right, the 13, but also the 9, part of who
they believe.
And that was channeled by essentially the Aeneid.
Yeah, the 9 being the 9 principal gods of the Egyptian Pantheon, who began channeled
by people like all these associated with the helicopter, really influential people of wealth
and power.
Right, right.
People, you know, old money, the Aster family, the Forbes family, the Payne family, who go
back, you know, hundreds of years in the United States from the early fifties through the
late seventies through various channelers, all connected through a CIA operative by the
name of Dr. Andrea Puharich, who was, worked for the CIA for years basically on mind control
and stuff like that.
But this was one of his projects, his round table where he would get this group together
that believed they were channeling this group of gods from outer space called the 9.
In fact, one of the periodic members of the group was Gene Roddenberry, the creator of
Star Trek, who later went on to write a movie treatment based on the 9, never went anywhere.
But it did kind of show up in deep space 9.
So, you know, the thing that I have to ask, and this is, you know, hopefully in the spirit
of Jacques Vallée, who questioned some true believers in the UFO movement about the existence
of the base at, supposed base at Dulce, New Mexico, this big underground base where alien
grays and humans are working together, and he just asked, who takes out the garbage?
Right.
I mean, you know, where's the power coming from?
I mean, there would be a heat signature you could see from any satellite in space, and
they're like, no, no, it's got to be there.
Alien technology doesn't work that way.
Exactly.
They have a different kind of an incinerator.
I guess.
But that's my question, is if we are being contacted by extraterrestrials, why is it
all by telepathy?
I mean, if these people had the technology to overcome the problems of how do we shield
the craft against interstellar radiation?
How do we overcome the energy requirements needed to get from here to there?
Have they not yet figured out how to work a radio or invent a webcam?
Now, haven't most of the people in the serious parts of, like, MUFON and whatever, they've
moved more to this idea of parallel realities, and it's not really a nuts and bolts craft
that's bat-cropped.
Well, that's the thing.
The serious researchers, and I mean that in terms of, you know, gravitas, not the star
system series, which plays an important role in this whole mythos, they are not happy that
MUFON has gone in this direction.
It's kind of embraced this alternate reality, this contiguous universe, which was a phrase
that showed up in the WikiLeaks emails released by John Podesta.
They're not happy about it, because it's basically accepting unquestioningly, unlike
Jacques Vallet, who takes out the garbage, how did they get here, and if they're here
and they crossed light years of space to get here, why can't they just pick up the phone?
Why are they using telepathy to try to talk to us?
But I think that also is another part, the way some of them would answer that, is that
there was a reason for stealth, there's a reason for timing, we're moving towards an
official disclosure moment.
This is a lot of what you guys are going to be dealing with in November and December on
the day the earth stands still.
Were you dealing hypothetically with this idea that, okay, the WikiLeaks, according
to WikiLeaks, we were moving towards official disclosure in 2017, even representatives
from the Vatican talking to Podesta about this, do they know something that we don't know?
And if you do a little bit of mental gymnastics and ask yourself the question, okay, what
would happen if all of a sudden we wake up tomorrow morning and everybody from the Pope
to the president are standing in the well of the United Nations saying, folks, we have
an announcement to make, right?
Well, biblically, we know that something is coming that Jesus refers to as the strong
delusion.
And that is the other part of this, you know, and that thought has kind of come back around,
you know, when I was a young pastor, well, I wasn't really young, but I was in the 70s,
so a lot younger than now, right?
And long hair, too.
Yeah, and well, not when I was a pastor, but just before.
Yeah.
Yeah, they made me cut my hair.
Oh.
Isn't that sad?
It's just so sad.
Anyway.
I'm never going to get over this.
Now I wish I had it to cut, but be that way.
Now I fit in with the whole UFO globe orb kind of stuff.
But I think that would be one of their answers as well.
There's a reason now, because don't forget that it was only, you know, a couple of decades
ago in which, you know, even university level philosophers were saying that even the discovery
of a microorganism on another world could create a giant ripple effect through religion
that would challenge the notion or the idea of our, you know, human exceptionalism, as
Wesley Smith calls it, that there's something different about Earth, that it's a special
place.
I think a lot of philosophers and theologians today, and not just in the Catholic Church,
have changed their mind about that, and they no longer believe that that would be the challenge
to our orthodoxy or to our faith, and therefore, maybe we're ready now for official disclosure,
and so they can stop communicating psychically with the little group on the inside, right?
And they can just come out now and make themselves known to humanity from what they are.
We'll talk about that in the next segment.
What was that old movie where it turns out that the aliens were actually, what we would
think of as the devil?
Remember that old book that was- Oh, Arthur C. Clarke, Childhood's End.
Childhood's End.
Yes, yes, yes.
Another reason they may not have made themselves known for what they actually are is because
it would scare us, and then Childhood's End, you know, they come and they just stay in
the ship and they only have one or two people they'll talk to, right?
And then finally, at the end when the world is ready, then they reveal themselves, and
isn't it glorious, that the very persons that we have always thought of as the devil and
his angels are actually our saviors and our heroes, right?
Right, yeah.
Well, we talk about this because, frankly, the entire UFO phenomenon, and especially
the Contact-E phenomenon is, it's a science fiction religion.
It is a new religion for the 21st century.
And we'll continue that discussion as we continue this series of web exclusive broadcasts leading
up to Halloween week on Skywatch TV with Tom Horn and Sharon K. Gilbert.
I'm Derek Gilbert.
Thanks for watching.
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