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Yeah, I mean the trends weren't so
Like they are now like when you talk about the double cork, I mean the trend there is more I mean it's competition based, but it's also
You know just progression based
So you've got the guys that want to do it because they need to do it for the competition
And then the guys that need to keep themselves at that level and want to do it for their video parts or whatever
And we definitely I mean we had that at that time, but to a different degree. I don't think it was as
As
I mean not cutthroat, but like if you were in the contest during during my time you had to have
At least a seven and
A switch, you know, probably like a cab seven or a cab nine or a front nine
You know if you're going to win a contest
Because that's kind of where it was at
Not that that's I mean by today's standards. That's like nothing now
Um, but then you know if you talk about
trends
Maybe the the trends weren't quite as
as
fashion dictated as they seem to be now, you know, like you say you've got the tight pants and the
um
The hip hop guy and then the guy that doesn't know what he's doing where his pants are tight
But his jacket's like super loose and he looks like an old mushroom cap or something
um, you know, we we didn't necessarily have those trends, but we did have trends obviously toward
You know big baggy pants and and um, you know, that was just like one trend that really caught on
I mean like cut down boards and when everyone was going to the baggy super baggy pants that were practically raver style
Um, you know, that was definitely a super prominent trend, but at that time we you know, you weren't like
One way or the other. I mean if you were a rocker, maybe you just wore all black
Then and you didn't and you didn't have big baggy pants. You just wore the same old
Pants you've been wearing, you know
Well, yeah, I mean I think
I think fashion of course is good and I'm happy to see the function and the fashion come together
You know when you talk about like a holding outerwear or someone like that where you know, we needed a new style like a more fitted cut
For people and not just the giant baggy
type of deal
But on the negative side, you know, you've got
Like the guys that are sponsored for more of their image than their riding like they can they can do
You know some decent tricks or a handrail or whatever and stand up to
To about the right level as far as progression goes, but
You know, they're super limited and their their basic skills are like partying and smoking cigarettes
Um that part is negative. I think for the industry, but at the same time, you know
It's it's good to have personalities and sometimes that's just that person's personality
And it's not really their fault that they're sponsored and they're not that great. I mean that's
That's the industry
Grabbing on to that person and saying we need that guy
We need the guy that's going to smash your toilet and smoke all your cigs and then
You know maybe do a handrail. Well, I think you know, there's there's that problem where
No matter what the riders want the judges are
Not always disconnected. I mean, I know a lot of great guys that are, you know, past pro snowboarders who are judges
But sometimes the judges are just morally scoring for difficulty and there's really in most
Um in most contests, there's no format that that really involves style. Like there's usually, you know, an amplitude
Uh difficulty of trick and variation and and the style is kind of in there, but it's not
It's not one of those components and I think that's that's some of the problem with contests because
You know, um
I
Talked into the tourist time the other day and he was actually saying how you know, I was asking like what's the progression of the sport
And you know a bit of his answer was that he's not hoping that it goes to
You know quad corks in 1440s, but that we bring the style in more to the double corks
But the problem I think is really the um, it's the way the contests are put together as far as the judging format if there was an actual
style
Factor that would change a lot of things if it was like
trick difficulty
Um amplitude if you're talking halfpipe and then like the style
Then it then it makes a difference, but until that style is an actual point
It's just tricks
I don't think it's gonna change because uh, it's always been
This problem. That's that's like why I never did many competitions was that I'm I'm a competitive person
But I'm not a competitive person in a subjective arena
So when it's coming when it's subjective, I want to do what I want to do
and have it be stiley
And that's going to limit me
If someone else is going to just do
You know the old days if someone was going to do a
A nine or a ten and I wanted to do like a stiley seven then
I kind of lose out there
Um, I mean I I'm not really seeing
Much of the the positive uh coming from that. I mean it's great for snowboarding. I think that the guys are out there
You know shone white getting more exposure outside of snowboarding
To a certain degree and you know like cover of rolling stone or what have you um, but
I don't you know, I don't think they're really it doesn't seem like they're using it
Like in the same way that like
You know like terry jay is using his his clout, you know, he's terry jay is trying to do something
Uh, it seems like other guys, you know, like a a danie cast who has his own show, you know with dingo and all that or
you know like a
um
Sean white it seems like they
I don't know. I just seems to me like they want to just further their career that direction like, you know
Hang out with little wane and try to be a rock star if you're shone white, um
But you're not, you know not pushing snowboarding in the right direction necessarily but helping
I
Well
I mean in an ideal world it would be great if
If snowboarding really had a voice in that in the olympics and you know, I've read a little bit about the whole 180 charter and
and um
The attention there. I know that there's you know a bit of conflict
If there was to be slope style in how you would qualify versus you know current competitions like the the ttr series
um
But I don't you know, I've heard some people mention maybe
You know the organizers of that the ttr
taking over
the olympic aspect of snowboarding and um
I mean, I don't actually see that as ever being feasible the fis and
the you know olympic committees are so old school and um
You know, maybe like old boys club style. I don't think that
They would ever release that kind of power to anyone
Um, if they work with us, that's great. And if you know, I think ideally if the ttr would be
um
a select part of the selection criteria
for
olympic
You know olympic qualification for the slope style that would be great
But again, I just don't think
You know the fis and the ioc and all that there's
It's just old old school
And I don't see them bending much to our will or or caring much about our desires
I don't think it would be
Realistic that they would do that
um
Though they should
you know the
one of the main things that come to my mind when I think about
Two competing type of series and uh, you know fis wanting everyone to qualify through fis events
They are not going to want to bag those events
They want to make money off those events and get that attendance and those things are
You know pre scheduled events that have been going on. I mean the slope style has an fis slope style
I don't even know if that really exists or not, but
um
You know, I just don't see
I don't see them saying okay. We're just going to trash our series and we'll just let you guys qualify through ttr and due tour
As far as that goes, you know, I don't know if they have much reach outside of the core market
I do know that
What was it like usa today picked up an article on the ioc 180 charter
um, that whole deal with terje a while ago
So that's you know, at least bring it to the masses, especially with usa today, which is a big deal. So
How we are snowboarding could raise more awareness
It's it's hard to say. I mean, yeah open events or something maybe but I don't even know if
You know, I don't know if you had every if you had just about every snowboarder in agreeance
I feel like there's still people that would just uh,
you know
Cross the the picket lines or be a scab as it were and and still go participate in the olympic events
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