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Marcelle Oliver and I've been positive for 11 years now. I contracted HIV from a boyfriend who
was down low and I didn't know it and he has come out of prison and we were practicing safe sex but
since he used a smaller condom after being on ecstasy and we already went through 24 condoms,
he started to get violent and just forced me to try to have sex and then when I said I wasn't going
to have sex without a condom, he went to go get one but one size doesn't fit all. That's one thing
I didn't know. I knew to use condoms but I didn't know the importance of using a condom and how to
use condoms and that's really important. So I've been struggling with the virus for 11 years. I do
all holistic things and stuff like that, take herbs but I do eat healthy and I have to stay on a
certain diet and do certain things that I didn't do before so that I can obtain my immune system and
be strong and to tell you the truth, it's really hard to steal after 11 years to put this all behind
me. So I'm outreaching women because you don't have to be dirty, nasty or anything to contract this
disease but women feel that they're invisible in the black community and through this, the numbers
are raising in our community amongst black women and young women and now our young teens, the HIV
infection is spreading because everybody thinks that you could only get it if you're positive,
having sex with a positive person, that's not true. It comes from untreated STDs as well. So
even if you can't be too cautious, it's better to be educated and don't think that you're invisible
because you don't know what the other person is doing. You're not with that person 24-7 because
he didn't have any signs to me that he was down low or anything like that. I have a message for his
sisters and brothers out there who think that AIDS has a look or HIV. I'm healthy, I look healthy,
I still obtain a healthy relationship. I still, I actually, I date more than I did before I was
positive. Guys like to date me and talk to me and I don't look sick and one thing everybody needs to
realize from now on is that I'm not responsible to expose my status. I could keep myself safe and
protect other people but by law I don't have to tell you if I'm positive. So it's up to everybody
else to stay healthy, get tested, wear condoms because you never know what people look like. I'm
sicker than most people but I'm very healthy. So me at the time right now my viral loads are okay
but they're still high but you can't tell because I don't look sick. There are some people that's
in my stages and do so to some of the medications that they've been on. They have other side effects
that make them look worse than they actually would if they didn't take the medication. So
that's something to think about. People don't look like they have AIDS and they don't have to tell
you their status so it's important for you to protect yourself. You don't know what your man
to do. You're mad to be on the down low. There's like so many men on the down low or they don't
consider their self-gaze so how would you need to know? Because there's a lot of men that don't
consider the ones that are penetrators. They don't consider themselves gay. But you know my
story is this right here just to make a briefing short because I know it's about to. I got a
sister that's gay in New York and she told me how to find out if a man is on the down low. She
said take a bill though and stick it in his and then if he'd like it then he respond then you will know.
That's true and I'm like why women don't do that so how would they know? But suppose your man's like
not gay but a little bit little kinky or whatever you know. I said I'm kinky or whatever. I'm some
kinky man but I mean if they made up the butt it's me. Exactly my boy. It would make you wanna as a
black woman. Exactly. As to what is really on their mind and if they get off into the feminine
and into the emotional then what do you do? You say hey back it on up. See you later. Yeah I mean
it's a lot of issues like that. I mean people men and women are different. Women if they're
at lesbian or they'll let you know. They don't have a problem in letting you know they want women.
But men have a problem letting you know that they want men because it's not right for one. It's not
supposed to be. Exactly. It's supposed to be male and female on all levels and people just take it
a little bit so men hide because it's a shameful thing for them to come out. Most white men they
can identify with themselves as being gay. Black men can't because society has a stigma against
gay white men. Yes they do. So then that puts us women at high risk for infection because we don't
know. We're two women like to fantasize. Yes we do. They fantasize on what kind of man they have when
it's really not that. Exactly. So they're not really looking through real eyes so if they listen
before they speak and get tested and stay on top of their game they won't become positive. Because
men can get STDs in the rectum like if you're in the most high risk is the receptive partner. Right.
The inserted partner is less likely to contract an STD or HIV or AIDS which leads up to STD. So
the myth that you have to be gay to get HIV or just messing with somebody who's already positive
they can have an STD give it to you. You don't go get it treated and it turns into HIV. But a woman
never knows. Exactly. When she got STD. That's why you need to get regular annual pap smears and
use condoms. If you're protecting yourself you don't have to worry about that because you don't
know. It only takes five, we have sex again and they can come in less than three minutes. It only
takes three minutes. Yes. And it's about three minutes of my life. Yes. Yes. It takes three minutes
just to do that cut. Just to make it wrong. Exactly. And people are not responsible. Because some
people are positive and don't even know they're positive. So you can't take the responsibility
for them to tell you their status because some people don't even know their status. Exactly. So
you're right. You have to protect yourself and be aware and get educated so you can save yourself.
And don't always think I have the man that's perfect and the she don't never know it takes
three minutes. Three minutes. And then bond with men quicker than women do. Yes they do. So they
have a special bond. Exactly. That we cannot break. Exactly. Exactly. And but we can get educated
in school. Exactly. As teenagers that don't mean that we know it all. Exactly. Because there's a
lot of women that say oh you gotta be nasty. No. Your husband could bring you on an STD. Trick
of motors or anything. You don't get it treated. You don't be HIV positive. And if he's not HIV
positive and he gonna get treated and don't tell you that he's he had an STD. How would you ever
know? And it's not always about drugs. Exactly. It's not always about shooting up dirty needle.
It's about you doing the wrong thing. Exactly. And not letting your partner know who you are
during the time frame. You with them. Especially if you've been with them for years. And people are
so worried about persons having HIV. They should be worried about any STDs like gonorrhea. Exactly.
Chlamydia. Yes. There's other diseases that you can't even protect yourself from. Yes.
Like hepatitis. You can best skin herpes. You don't have to have an outbreak to spread it.
There are people with symptoms. That is more contagious than HIV. And they have it and nobody's
worried about that. That leads up to HIV. You have herpes and it don't get treated. It can turn
to HIV. And you can have that's when you cold. That's when you're cold infected with HIV.
Hepatitis. You can get different diseases just by not taking care of yourself. Getting your
annual pap smears. Stuff like that. You don't say, oh, I know my dude ain't being with nobody.
You don't know that. You do not. Don't trust your instincts. You can't. You gotta go by it.
Do your follow-up. Okay. So what happens? These days there was like a lot of people
all worried about their health insurance or, you know, their health benefits. But then you got
people in the healthcare field that's injecting and taking medication like that one lady that was
NERS. Yeah. That took the medication and she was hepatitis C positive. And they infected the whole
a whole community of people and they at risk. And she should be prosecuted to the fullest.
And that's not fair. That's not fair. And then another thing that people don't understand about
when people go out and say disclose, you need to tell your status. You need to tell your status.
That's their right not to tell you because do you go around saying, oh, I'm not comedian. I'm
positive for comedian. You don't do that. That's that's personal confidential. But you have to respect
that when people have HIV and AIDS, they're not in their right minds. I mean, I had to fight a lot
because I am who I am. When I got those thoughts of who I was so angry, you know, I never thought
about giving it to anybody because, you know, I was just mad because it happened to me. And I was
like, you know, how long was it before you found out? Because he was going around. He knew that he
he knew that he had got an STD. So he went back to jail and they told me he had trichomonas.
So he knew that he had getting trichomonas. That's the first thing that showed up was trichomonas.
But I wasn't aware that he had AIDS. He had AIDS, which gave me a high viral load of HIV.
So, I mean, you're mad. You don't want to disclose people teach you.
Michelle, I want to talk to you first of all, and I want to congratulate you on for being who you
are and being a strong black woman. Thank you to the struggle you're going through. Thank you.
But I have a baby brother that was connected with an older woman that was HIV positive.
And she shot up drugs. She's like 15 years older than him. And she shot up heroin.
And she got exposed to HIV from a man that was HIV positive. And he didn't know and she
didn't tell nobody. And my brother told the family two years ago that she gave him AIDS.
And when he went and got tested and he went ballistic and he was outraged. And I could
understand the rage he went through because he was never told. He was exposed to it. And the word
today is to get it out there to the public is to let the world know nobody is obsolete to what
could happen. No matter whether a person did drugs 20, 15 years ago, or whether they didn't use a
gym ahead, a condom, in other words, it's out there. It don't matter. You could be in the medical field
and somebody have AIDS and they don't tell the medical perfection they got AIDS. And you can be
exposed to someone else. And it's a sad situation that people don't have the courage to let other
people know that something is wrong with them. What is your opinion on the situation? My opinion
is this that everybody's responsible for the next person. And I disagree even though I don't tell
everybody my status, I protect them. And I feel that people that don't need to be prosecuted to
the fullest extent, because that is a very, very important issue that people, if they're not going
to share their status, they need to protect themselves. I feel that the woman who has done this
to your brother is not the woman that I am. And I would never, ever do that to anyone. And I feel
that she should be punished to the fullest extent, even though he cares about her and didn't expose
her, he should have. Because people like that, if you was doing your precautions and you was
educating, you wouldn't have to spread it to somebody else. I feel that, that he has been wronged.
And I would never do that because I am for the people. If I don't tell you, I will protect you,
but it is right as anybody, confidentiality. But you have to hold the responsibility of not
spreading the disease. I do not agree with anybody who spread the disease. I know how the impact is.
Some people want to give it to the whole world, but it's not for the whole world. Just because
you've been affected and you wasn't responsible for yourself, doesn't mean that you need to spread
it to anybody else. In other words, don't spread your anger. Don't spread your anger because it's
coming out as an anger issue and not as a protection or to be worried about the next person. So,
I feel that your brother was wrong and I would never do anything like that. And that's why I'm
educating the community. My brother was wrong. No, the woman, the woman was, I said your brother was
wronged for the, for the act that the woman did on him. And if it was me, I couldn't,
I don't know. I love the person that infected me because I used a condom and it wasn't like
he intentionally gave me the virus. The condom broke. Okay. He was agreeing to use condoms. He
did not disagree. But what we both wasn't educated on is one size does not fit all. You have heard
that. So it's not like he purposely gave me the virus. He was in agreement of, even though he was
on ecstasy, ecstasy in drugs and high risk for HIV, you know, you fully wasn't educated on the
exact. Different sizes fit different people. And in the end, when you get educated, this one size
fits off. No, it's not like that. And that's not real. So he did not, if he did not intentionally
infect me, he followed my rules, but not being educated in the size of condoms is what made
me in high risk. And I am positive now because of that. But to let everybody else know, since I
don't look sick or anything like that. No, in no kind of way. And then so your brother is a strong
black man because he should prosecuted the person. And I feel this for anybody who's positive,
who did not take the responsibility and the time out to protect those who are not affected.
Although you go through a traumatic issue in a drama that you want everybody because I had the
same feelings. I'm not gonna say that I didn't have the same feelings to I was angry. So how
you, the person you are and how you take your anger out matters. Oh, go ahead.
The guy that infected me, he didn't do it on purpose. He was just scared to the
one size that fit. He did not give me the AIDS virus because of not protecting
myself. It was uneducational. We wasn't educated enough. And they'll tell you that one size fits
all when it doesn't because of the friction of a condom within a woman's vagina is different
from stretching it out. Constant friction will break the condom when it's too small.
And believe me, we use Trojans. We use 24 Trojans on ecstasy. That's why they tell you that
when you're on drugs and you're hot, that's not good for you to have sex. So prevention is to not
have sex when you're extremely high with a person that you don't know get tested and all the above.
Now, in your brother's case, he asked were you positive? That's where I do not agree with a
person that does not expose their status. If I'm asked, I expose my status right away.
So that was unfair. You shouldn't have been treated like that. And for everybody that is positive
with HIV or AIDS, if somebody asked you, you're supposed to disclose. If you can't disclose,
you need to take it. Don't have sex. You got to get checked out.
And you have to know why the why you have to make sure you're protected the right condoms.
They make female condoms, which is polyurethane, and they're not latex.
And some people are allergic to latex. So there's different condoms. The condom that's the safest
is women condoms. And I do not agree with anybody's friend of disease. I don't care how mad you get,
what your issues is. It's just not easy to expose your status. And it's not easy to not,
you know, so to be on the safe side, I think the person that's responsible for their actions
is the people that are positive. If you know you're positive, use condoms. Don't take the granted
because you didn't tell the person that it's free for you to annihilate their life because you're
just committing murder to me. I'm not in agreement with that. I don't tell everybody because I
have a normal sex life. But if you're constantly, we don't got to use a sex condom to protect.
If you're not doing safe sex on me, I won't have sex with you. And if you constantly keep on with
it, I will tell you my status. I may try to be positive. So if you want to fuck me without condom,
that's your problem. But I feel that people that are just going around spreading without telling
anybody, you have to say, let's use a condom. If you don't say that, then hey, it's on you and you
will. That's, that's murder. That's a murder charge. I don't agree with that. I agree with you not
telling your status, but protecting the next person. If they ask you, you must, you must tell
them. And if they expose you and you find that they're positive, they get prosecuted. That's,
that's taking a lot of sentence. You don't do that. That's, I don't agree with that. The part of it
that I don't agree with is you not protecting yourself when you don't tell your status. You
must protect yourself. If you want to keep that private, protect yourself. Don't give it to somebody
else because you have it. That's wrong. That's attempted murder. That's murder. Off the rap
and you see legal to do that. But me, because I'm an advocate, if I don't tell you, I must
protect you. If I don't protect you, then it's my right to tell you that I'm positive.
So I'm going to ask you this question. How do your family supposed to feel about it? When you
don't tell your significant partner that you are HIV positive and when they find out later,
down the line, that you have AIDS and you didn't tell them and how, and they find out that they
do have AIDS, how are they supposed to handle this and the family supposed to handle this?
Like that person is, is wrong. That person should be prosecuted to the full extent. Why? I'm positive
and I would never give it to anybody. And if I'm not going to use protection, I'm going to show
telling my status. So it's very important that people that are positive, if you can't disclose
your status, your best bet is to protect yourself. Other than that, prosecute them to the fullest
because that's wrong. But what if you, as a family, don't want to do that? Well, then you'll have to
live the sad life that I do and you're not prosecuted. But I feel that anybody that doesn't
tell their status and don't protect themselves is committee, committee, a crime of murder.
That's first degree murder to me. Okay. If I was HIV positive, how do I contact
an organization that can help me and to help me get through this scenario in my life?
Who can I contact? You could go to, you can go to Women's AIDS Project, which is in Powering
in Texas, Billy, Brother Jeff. There's like a, there's for Spanish people, there's the sister
of colors. They have different organizations that you need to reach out to. But as a positive
person, because I'm positive does not mean that I have the right to go around and mislead people.
If I don't disclose my status, status, the first thing I need to do is use condoms. Okay. What
if it was a nationally thing and internationally and there was statewide spread? What, who can I go
to as a helpline to help me to get, if I was living in New York and I reached a show and who can I go
to for comfort when I know I've been infected with the virus? You could go to the CT, you, actually
you can go to the Camp Antenna AIDS, which is the CT, the C2EA of Washington, D.C.,
Housing Works. You can go on different websites to obtain the information that you need. All you
have to Google is HIV prevention and then you will get a listing of people that are in organizations
in your community that provide those services for you. But as a person that is positive, I do not
believe that is right for a person that is positive to not tell their status if they're not going to
use protection. If you don't use protection, you must stress your status. If not, you're committing
murder at the first degree and that's not good. If you are using protection, you don't have to tell
your status, but you eventually will. So if you're not comfortable in telling your status, then you
need to masturbate, get some other sexual things that can stimulate you and not affect other people
that are not affected because just because it's affected to you, it can affect everybody around
you. So you need to be positive. I do not agree with people who go around not seeing their status
and not using protection because you're committing murder. Because you can also affect just your
newborn child and not affect the person that you with. And it's an unborn child involved.
Status. If you're a woman that becomes pregnant with HIV, you need to get treated. Without treatment,
you could pass the virus to your child. Breastfeeding definitely passes it regardless.
But if you are a high viral load and you're detected in a high risk person, you're supposed
to get treated, the kids can be treated with a vaccine that can protect them from HIV. So
unless you're in your early child care provision, I think that's why I don't like the abortion
rights. Because if you're infected and you're going to infect your son or daughter, you should have
the right to get an abortion. So it's like you have to gamble with that. I agree with you, don't
that? Because breast milk is the first high risk thing. First, you can get it through birth,
but if you're treated for HIV, you won't pass it to your child. I agree with you,
don't make it. And you know what? We'll save this for another scenario. Thank you.
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