You
is almost inevitable the sensation of a remote time
of a past that today seems distant from our reality
What is the idea we have of family?
First place is family. Family is everything in our lives.
Thank God my father taught us all good things.
Family is everything you have without expecting anything in return.
The notion of love, union.
Family is a place. It is a place that you know is there.
It is the place in someone's heart.
There is love, there is the intention of being a family
which I think is an important thing.
It is a coexistence of affection.
What moves the history of this powerful social institution?
When and why did it transform?
Family has always been the theme of arts, novels and films.
The metaphor of fiction translates the ideals of each era.
The traditional family is focused on conservative values
and the idea of a husband who supports the family
while the mother-in-law of the children's house
gradually becomes something dated.
The woman's independence is obtained symbolically
and definitively with the contraceptive pill
she would have put in check the position of the man.
How are the new parents and the new mothers today?
The idea of the re-invention of the family
is that we want to counter-point to this apocalyptic discourse
proposing something more integrated.
We do not deny the fact that if we think that the patriarch
exercised paternal function, we have a decline.
But we can see this with more nuance.
Maybe it does not exactly make a decline
in relation to the patriarch, because the patriarch
was never the father of the nuclear family.
In fact, mothers are more absent with time,
but despite the fact that they are not good enough,
they have a level of subjectivity of involvement
in the education of the children from the 19th century,
which was the time when they became curators
of the domestic environment and the transmission of values,
which they are probably much closer to
than that mother very busy with 12, 13, 15 children
who would constantly wash clothes without time
to meet any of them.
I wanted us to understand, to start,
that this mother, this mother who reaches the 20th century,
so criticized for being absent, so guilty,
a mother who never feels good enough,
she never feels capable of really producing
for her family all the phenomena,
the care, the attention, the sensitivity
that she judges that she needs.
This mother who is so guilty of what it should be,
she is not absent in relation to that mother
of the extents family, the mother of the pre-nuclear family.
She feels absent in relation to the ideal of maternity
that was formed from the 19th century,
a period where the domesticity of the bourgeoisie,
which is the nuclear family, the father, the mother,
even in the already protesting dialect,
in which the transmission of values
is not given from the Church to the faithful,
it is given by the way of the father and mother
who teach their children, who encourage them.
This woman was put in the condition of a pastor,
of a curator of these children.
This woman is the one who feels absent
in relation to the ideal of the nuclear family,
not in relation to the mother,
the one who was her stepmother,
the one who had 15 children.
So this domesticity of the bourgeoisie
constitutes an ideal of mother,
as well as an ideal of father,
in relation to her,
that this woman feels absent.
The movie Mary Poppins
portrays the transformation of this new woman,
affected by the female conquests,
affecting the traditional roles of the father and the mother.
Shoulder, shoulder, into the fray,
Our daughter's daughters will adore us,
And they'll sing in grateful chorus.
Well done, sister suffragette!
With this song,
the woman is put back
with a new role in the family.
And the man's throne at home is threatened.
I'm the lord of my castle,
the sovereign, the liege.
I treat my subjects, servants,
children, wife,
with a firm but gentle hand, no bless of liege.
It's 603, and the heirs to my dominion
are scrubbed and tubbed,
and added quickly fed.
And so I'll pat them on the head,
and send them off to bed.
Our lord is the life I need.
When you're fed, where are the children?
They're not here, dear.
What? Well, of course they're here.
Where else would they be?
I don't know, George.
No.
The same goes for Mary Poppins,
the translation of it by domesticity.
So who's going to translate it
to domesticity?
It's Mary Poppins,
if you watch this again,
you know Mary Poppins
and her mother rarely show up together.
And they never talk about one another,
because they're the same,
they're two faces.
Why are they separate?
Because the woman is actually
A woman who wins in the street, who bet on posterity,
is not the same woman who needs to translate her ideals
into loving bonds at home.
Actually, it's Mary Poppins who will take
this ideal of a free woman inside the house.
In the next block.
Contemporary life is the love that legitimizes things
when the tradition is missing.
That's why we live, looking and renewing our faith
in the passion that the philosophical faith comes back.
The sexual revolution,
occurred in the second half of the 20th century,
is in the midst of a series of social changes
such as the industrial revolution,
the revolution of the world,
the revolution of the world,
the revolution of the world,
the revolution of the world,
the revolution of the world,
the series of social changes such as the industrial revolution,
the demographic explosion of cities
and the greater penetration of women
in the labor market.
In the 1960s, with sexual liberation,
the advent of the pill
changes the family's parameters,
putting new options for women.
Among them, being the owner of your body.
It was decades of changes,
so abrupt and surprising,
that they changed the balance of power between sexes.
We are obliged to rethink our role in this world,
which, although already so different from the past times,
continues to suffer deep changes.
The motherhood today is a child,
when I want it, I want it.
An inheritance of the 1960s,
when the pill spreads.
And a woman can choose.
So, a woman who allows herself to be sexual,
in the frequency she wants,
and who allows herself not to have children she doesn't want.
This mother, who leaves the space of the empty motherhood,
who leaves us with the empty house,
who we are, but also our mother,
will open a space for us to think two things.
First, being in maternity,
and second, the possible identity of this mother,
which is an orphan mother,
a mother who doesn't have the reference of her mother,
and at the same time,
this woman, now the owner of her body,
lives in a very invasive way,
the gestation, the birth, the purportation.
This woman is a warrior,
she is called Ripley,
and this monster,
which symbolizes the old woman,
the monstrous face of the old woman
who wants to do with whom the woman occupies,
is called Alen.
And she fights Alen over four films,
and always wins,
but she has a great enemy,
in fact,
which is a corporation for which she works.
This corporation wants to save Alen,
wants to bring her to Earth,
to use her as a war weapon.
She is fought by the corporation itself,
for which she works,
and only warned the ship's crew members
to bring the beast to Earth.
And every time she tries to do this,
then she is the warrior, the warrior woman,
who is against the pawn,
the traditional woman,
who only had children,
and the society,
male men,
supporting not the warrior woman,
who is always alone,
but yes,
supporting the pawn.
The woman loses herself.
Where are the women?
The women of today are not women.
Did you see what the meaning
of these mysterious slogans?
In the attitude of men of today,
a duplicity that creates in the woman
a painful dilapidation.
They accept, in great measure,
that the woman is a similar one,
an equal one.
And, however, it continues to demand
an essential one.
For her, these two destinies
are not conciliable.
She hesitates between one and the other
without adapting to exactly any one.
And then, her lack of balance.
A man, there is no gap
between public life
and private life.
By the way, the women's autonomy
is in contradiction
with her femininity.
As much as she demands
from the real woman
that she is the other one.
For Simone,
women could only feel honored
within the functioning
of an occidental society
if they could be warriors.
This is exactly what Ripley is.
She is a warrior.
An interesting thing
is to think of Ripley
as a woman who,
as a warrior,
is constantly deprived of her children.
She is 57 years old
and has been wandering
through space for 57 years
until she is rescued.
When she fights, she wins
for the first time, and when she returns
to Earth, her daughter,
who she already had, has died.
So she loses her daughter.
In the second movie, she finds
a single survivor girl
from a place there.
And she adores this girl.
There are no monsters, no real ones,
but there are.
Yes, there are there.
Why do they tell little kids that?
Most of the time, it's true.
Did one of those things go inside her?
I don't know, Nude.
That's the truth.
Isn't that how babies come?
I mean, people babies,
they go inside you.
That's very different.
Yes, I did.
Where is she?
She's gone.
I mean, dead.
See?
The little girl from Ripley,
she already said, there are monsters.
I have the right to be afraid.
So it's a safer world,
where the patriarch, the monarch,
God, don't protect anyone else.
So how does the woman
to get stronger?
She is resilient.
She takes care of the little gestures,
maternal that she can collect
to maternalize herself.
It makes me want to cry.
I trust that you will be an improvement
on the last one.
Two hours.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Do you mean to tell me that my children
have been roaming about Salzburg
dressed up in nothing but some old vapes?
And having a marvelous time.
I have uniforms.
Oh, straight jackets, if you'll forgive me.
I will not forgive you for that.
Children cannot do all the things they're supposed to do
if they have to worry about spoiling their precious clothes.
Well, they wouldn't dare.
They love you too much.
They fear you too much.
I don't wish you to discuss my children in this manner.
Well, you've got to hear from someone.
You're never home long enough to know them.
I said I don't want to hear any more from you about my children.
I know you don't, but you've got to.
Oh, please, Captain, love them, love them all.
And in this nuclear family
where the woman is the healer
of the transmission of values
she gives a place to this father
so that he can be respected
and legitimized in a place of authority.
I said to a psychoanalyst,
Felipe Julien,
that this is the true paternal authority
when this is received from a woman.
That's heavy, isn't it?
But for that, the woman needs to call the man
who feels disempowered
of this system that no longer supports her.
She needs to call the man inside the house.
It's no use staying out there
thinking he wins because he's famous
because he's prestigious
because he does everything right out there.
She needs to call him
to take care of her children
to support her
because she feels very lonely
because she's orphan.
So she calls him because she wants him to love her children
because she needs to feel loved
because she doesn't feel legitimate in any position.
In contemporary life
it's the love that legitimizes things
when the tradition is lacking.
That's why we live
seeking and renewing our faith
in love and in passion.
Are these the same changes
of the role of the parents in the family?
What we usually dream of
is the more with the family
of our parents,
of our grandmothers
and the family that we live in.
Café Filosofo, continue in the next episode.
Thank you for watching.
In the traditional family
the roles were defined
the institutions were strong
the rules were structured
the parents knew
what to convey to their children.
In this contemporary world
the family lives in a metamorphosis
and leaves the place
and the function of eternity
and paternity.
How is the transmission
of values, of conducts?
What is the story
of a father today?
These changes
we have looked at
the families
and
what happens. We have a father
that
declines his power.
We have to see
how it will be.
The man had an easier job
he had
I speak in contrast to the father
the man
knew, if he were a father
he knew what he had
to tell his children.
We have seen a period of great certainty
and from the two wars
a period of a huge change
in the family
the wars
led the men to several places
the men came back
seeing a much bigger world
the women left the stove
to go to the factories
of men and when the war ended
these women didn't want to go back
to the stove because the factory
was more interesting.
We have the interwar
moved
extraordinarily
with the world
and created the possibility
of these issues.
Robert Young
and Jane Wyatt
with Eleanor Donahue
Billy Gray
Although this series is made
in the 50's
it is very funny because
the family's representations
are always self-sacrificing.
When it is made
this father was already on occasion
but we dream
because we usually dream
with the family
the parents of our grandparents
and the family we are living in.
We feed on old dreams
to be able to
support the family's difficulties.
This is the traditional father
Mr. Anderson
although
he was made at a time
that this father didn't exist
in the 50's
the custom revolution was being gestated
in the 60's and 70's
in the RIP movement
but what we were watching
was
a father who knew everything.
He was a father
who didn't change.
He was a man who arrived at home
took his backpack
didn't have time to smoke
and he was happy.
I don't know what happened
he arrived at home
and had to solve domestic problems
the women were at home
and the children were ready
to go to school
he never lost his tone
he never lost his elegance
and he had what to say
for each situation
that's what's important
this is the place.
The Walton
is the family's prototype
which all of us
would like to live
it was an extensive family
unlike the father
he knows everything that is a nuclear family
living with his grandparents
with cousins
it's a big family
and the places are very well placed
even though you have a boy
who is the narrator
who invests in many things
about life
when he needs to know something
he will go to his parents
the parents have to say to him
that is, we are a family
with a father who transmitted
what I said about values
this father
he was already anachronistic
when he passed away
so the fiction
starts to produce
other families
that
bring us closer
very well, right?
where are you?
in the club's chapel
I have a meeting
this night at the Neuer Irmandade dos Bufalos
are you looking for your brother, Fred?
look, Puxia
looking for your brother, Fred
certainly looking for your brother
because you take me for a useless guy
how can they do that?
and every time
I will come back home
as soon as I finish the meeting
this is a father of transition
look, he is already
he is not
he is not a ridiculous father
a reasonable father, but not a ridiculous one
this
this
this stretch is very interesting
to see
a reign that no longer exists
he has already messed up
I do not know but things are
extremely dependent on the woman
the scene serves very well for those who have a dog
but the idea is that
even the dog respects him very well
he is already
a deluded place
the Flintstones
are already a different father
because he is already
he is already subaltern
he has a boss
who takes his patience
he is already
socially devalued
I say that he is a kind of father of transition
between father and this habit
and here he does not know much
but he is not yet
an idiot
that is where the contemporary fiction
is currently
father, you are the best father in the world
did you know?
thank you son
you have small hands
do you want to skate?
what kind of
situation
that is placed?
first question
what I was saying before
that families in some way
families that we watch
that we enjoy on TV
that they are nostalgic
and also worth
for the Flintstones
and also worth
the scratch that the Simpsons have
he keeps
a question
that is, it is not a reflection
of the current family
the following question
the current family is fragmented
the current family
is marriage and remarriage
son of one, son of the other
this is our reality
the nuclear family
that goes through time together
and both the family guy and the Simpsons
despite all this
it is a family that remains united
despite they approach each other
despite it being
extraordinarily troublesome
of being
completely ridiculous
it continues to be loved
it continues to be a reference
and what interests us
the impression that what captures us in that family
is the
strength of their love
and of everything they continue together
I think this is not
and this activates anyone
who has a family
what does this mean?
I guess
this is the time to tell you
you're adopted and I don't like you
BART
but don't worry
because you've got a big brother who loves you
and will always look out for you
here we have a father who doesn't know or doesn't have what to say to his children
there is an interesting episode
when at some point a situation is set up
that Homer comes to talk to his son BART
to say something about life
there is a moment and he will say
he will say to my son
there are three things that you have to take to life
and that make me what I am
the first sign of wisdom
good idea boss
this has to be well homologated
second
when I arrived
I was already like this
and third
don't say that it was me
that is, what does he teach
he teaches you to dodge
take life in such a way
that you don't compromise
that is, it's a void
of transmission
in the next block
of all the tradition
of our culture
the old are the wise
and this in the 20th century
breaks
music playing
music playing
in the traditional
patriarchal and verticalized society
the father figure
of the oldest
was put as unquestionable authority
but the contemporary world
does not recognize
this hierarchy
today the new generations
with access to all kinds of information
question a place of knowledge
and fiction helps us reflect
on the role that parents
are performing in the current world
traditional family
not only traditional family
all the tradition of our culture
the old are the wise
is deposited in the greatest expense
wisdom and from that
you have to look at the old
they will tell you something about life
well, this in the 20th century
breaks
for several reasons
not only because of the conflict
generations and
extraordinary change of the world
each generation
transforms in such a way
that you don't live
and have the expenses of your children
so it's really difficult to transmit
so this question of parents
can't say anything to their children
that they are different experiences
and
for men it's hard
for women it's very
high in power
that is, every generation
think about the history
of your grandmother
every generation
of these women has a completely different
experience
by the acceleration of the role of women
what does it mean to say about life
one for another, it's very difficult
the world is another, the world changes
and ends up doing that
which is led to paroxysm
by your current generation
the place of knowledge
changed and this affects
the family a lot
because it is in this question of who knows
who doesn't know, the teenagers
put themselves in a position
almost the same as parents
even because parents empty themselves
from the place
the question is not to blame the teenagers
to put themselves
in a place of transmission
of value
I don't have to say to the children
they are more or less
paralyzed like Homer
it's time to say something
and it's hard, I don't have to say
what does the new generation say
Lisa, daughter, is the only
in every Springfield
is the only source
of knowledge
is a girl who knows
and she has extremely interesting positions
in family guy
who is the most intelligent
or baby
it's an inversion
of this place of wisdom that appears
it's in the new generation
what makes them
strangely lost, it's not there
in any way
there are parents
who can't
position themselves
by the speed of time
with the generation of values
and
they clap
in the speech
to say what comes in life
what can we do with it
how many times
we meet parents
the only thing they can say to the children
is, well my children
what I really want for you
that you are happy
it's not a message absolutely classic
what do you want
I don't want you to be happy
what a father of these days
nothing
because who would like the son to be unhappy
so she is transitive
doesn't want to say absolutely nothing
if someone says he wants you to be happy
you can know
he is not telling you, he has nothing to say
it's not true
what was the previous generation
the previous generation came and said
my son, I want you to be a lawyer
for the family business
that's right, it's in a position
you who will take care of the store
it wasn't this position
it's a clear and direct proposal
of course it was very heavy
for a son to receive a mandate
he would or wouldn't
it worked with a compass
that in both ways
he would take it in this direction
because he wanted the parents
or he had to counter that
this thing was a more solid stone
to step
even if it was to go in the other direction
it was less heavy
than this question
I want you to be happy
because this is a moving land
where nothing
there is no support, no value
there is no inclination of the paternal desire
and the teenager
deeper than helped
with this pretence
you can be anything
this is the discourse
Homer Simpson
for the current fame
we don't have
what to say
we don't believe in our values
or we can't
elaborate them well
so we don't know what to say
in other ways
that's what we say
I don't think
that Simpson is making a success
even though
it's not that I think he's already aged
he's a family
that has this nostalgia
because they don't know how to do it
he says a lot
of something contemporary
in this sense
of the void of the transmission
that a father has to teach
just to remember
there's something wonderful in Homer
which is the following
what is his profession?
he's the head of security of a plant
and he's
an unqualified imbecile
he wouldn't be able to
very contemporary
but that's it
he's not prepared
for the explosive mission
this is the question
his job is simply
a metaphor
of the place of the man
as a father
he has the inability
to have the height
of this place
I love Nemo because
he's a father
he has three teachings
the world is very dangerous
the world is very dangerous
and the world is very dangerous
that's all he has to say
of course, he resists
because later
to recover the son
there's no danger
he resists from the inaugural
of the beginning of the movie
because he loses
and
he's a failed man
because he couldn't
protect his wife
so he has to
protect his son
a son protected from a phobic father
is
what's most important
Fiona, soon it will be
only me, you
and our Pantano
I love you
I love you
What was it?
I am
I said I'm pregnant
You're going to be a father
How cool
How good do you think that is?
I'm going to be a father
You're my friend
You're literally a father
This is a father
much more interesting
he's no longer a disqualified father
he's a more modern father
and with all his impasses
a father who has difficulty
to take
this place
but after he takes
he turns around
then he repents
he reflects
the dynamic of modern fathers
after he ends up being a father
very unhappy, but in Shrek 4
there's another question
the children were born
they grew up
he's taken
by the family
domestic
and it shows very clearly
how for a woman it's much easier
to deal with this routine
than for a man
in magical situations
it shows a possibility
to do this all day
and return to being single
and he hits
but of course
in a trap
he would be forever
he feels the lack of family
and fights to get back
but it's a good question
to think about
a metaphor of the man's vacillation
by the position of father and having children
so it's very interesting
in this Shrek's passage
there's a discussion between him and Fiona
where
she says that's very valuable
and he insists that the only value he had
was while he was hungry
while he was scaring people
his social value
and the value he has inside
can't make him
something he likes to look at in the mirror
so that's why this cowardice
because a man is confronted
and he can't believe
that he's going to do it
because it's in a territory that was always feminine
so if the woman has to win
in a territory that was always masculine
the investments are also a challenge
of which Shrek wants to escape
because the man has to win
in a territory that was always feminine
these are the new fathers
fruits of the new men
and of the new women
how to convey values
in the family
with a name that doesn't have much
to say to their children
and a woman
absent
but trying to cover all their
absence with
other styles
how to convey values
actually
the transmission
that's why we don't say that in family
we don't teach ourselves
in family we transmit
and the transmission of values
is a paradox
they say that since the children are very little
they don't lose anything
they take everything out
they observe everything
they know everything
that is, the parents realize that the child
nourishes himself
if he builds himself
not from what he says
but from what he says without knowing
from what he expresses without knowing
what he's saying
and from what he makes them suffer
the children need to see
with this dilemma of the parents
between domestic abnegation
or
to work
to do a work for the world
and personal taste
so the children are constantly observing
the way the parents
negotiate the demands
that the mother suffers
in her domestic placement
the father today too
Shrek is a father who changes diapers
he is a very contemporary father
in his isolation
in fear of the task
but also in the occupation of the children
that he has and that he shares with Fiona
so in this domestic abnegation
that asks the father not to take care of himself
but of the children or the family
and in the demand of the world
that no matter how much it is a work
is a moment that I'm building
I'm not enjoying
in the world today it tells us
you must be important
that you enjoy
and that the demands of them also
grow, be important, independent
leave the house
which is a very important thing
at the same time that they do not support
leaving the house
because when the children leave the house
they feel old and they get scared
but anyway, this idea
grows and such
that when you are old
I already did that for the other
I know that nothing, it's all a lie
strong, much more independent
in the age that they have today
and that at the same time we say to them
no, my life was very hard
I will give you the opportunity
so that you live in a lighter way
so that you are happier, you will not go through what I went through
if all parents say to their children
so what are they going through?
the teaching of Gozo, he likes it a lot
be happy
and this is the only thing that a father
can not ask his son
because a son cannot offer
his or her own happiness
happiness is something that we
are happy and do not know
so happiness is something that
when we have, we do not know
what we have, and when we are looking
certainly we do not find
there is an author
Giddens
he writes that
today we live under the empire of ternura
which is very annoying
but it is how things are
there would be a demand
from the woman
that her life
would go through all the links
this demand
this is what Maria
in this video that we saw
demands from Captain Von Trepp
do not pass your severity
pass your loving look
just that loving look was always
reduced to the woman
and today she asks this to the man
and asks this to her and her children
so somehow
he has to be inside
house but as a person
today there is no more the public figure
and the private figure
it used to be enough
to be a great man
he could be a calypso
inside the house
today he needs to take his look inside the house
at the same time that he is called to this
he permanently feels missing
so somehow
the father
complicated inside
to do something out there
the two are facing
a new world
I think there is a big path ahead
men have a lot to learn
about this
relocation of places
it is not easy
I think there will be a lot of confusion
about this
men do not live well
the universe
very feminine
men are not so used
to centuries
of millennia
these papers
to be a man
to exercise some form of power
some form of violence
and we are not used
to this
I think there is still a century
of friction
so that
we can better equate
these places
and that
we can live better
than it is now
men entered the house
to learn how to cook
to change clothes, to make wood
the man can exercise
the maternity
the woman left the house
entered the public life of the work
acquire rights, achievements
and new papers
if on the one hand
these changes that are still in progress
generated insecurity
on the other
there is no doubt
they force us to rethink our family
and reinvent ourselves
every day
the philosophical coffee is here
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