In the end, I am very optimistic, even though it does not exclude that there may be a confrontation
or a World War, speaking clearly that it was a World War for me is when the great powers
collide with each other and it looks more than ever at this moment and every time there was
a risk, an old international monetary system, every time there was a World War and again
we are at a time like this, but also in each World War there has been a rupture in
rationality, let's say, even though it was in a great country, let's say, in a war in another
great country, in another war, first Russia, which at that time was called then the Soviet Union,
then China, I think that if this will happen, I think it can be another factor because this system
ended up in the root, so to speak, in an environment of this type. If that is to be optimistic,
I don't know, but what I want to say is, even in this worst scenario, I see the light of the future,
I'm not going to say I don't want to see this war, I want to see it in the sense that I want to keep
my feet on the ground and analyze the possibility that we are closer to each other than in many
decades we have been, but also I see that the rationality of the system itself already touches
the global level in each continent in a way, so I think that this can also contribute to
an acceleration in social processes that indicate a change.
So reformism entered very strongly, let's say, in these Nordic countries in Europe,
Canada also, for having a very small population size, relatively speaking, then it is there where
the social economic rights have been the most advanced. Well, now it has to be dismantled
and we have to dismantle it further to compete with China, so to speak, than dismantle it here.
So, for having had these social economic rights so advanced, citizens of the
first category and the south of Europe are of second and the immigrants of third, fourth,
fifth, fifteenth, according to the color, according to the precedence of what they are, so mentally,
that is for fascism, let's say, that xenophobia, then for ultra-right parties, it is not strange
that in Sweden, Denmark and Holland, there have been government coalitions shared by fascists.
I think that the dominant press, which above all the financed or the one that depends on the city of
London and the Wall Street in New York, have spoken during the last four years that the Euro was
over, the Euro is still there, but politics has been to end with the Euro, these large
financial centers where the interests of the main transnational and main banks are,
so to speak, that they seek, although there is also division between the bank and we can
unwind a little, but they want to end both with the Euro and with the dollar. Why? The one who has
the currency, that is, if the largest international bank that is centered in London and New York and
is not in Germany or Bundesbank or Deutsche Bank, they do not have the same power, so to speak, as they do.
The idea is, as it is called, to control the world economy with a currency that does not
depend on any nation, but that depends on those bankers. That is the greatest threat that exists and a
capitalism, let's say, if this triumph would be the most atrocious of what we could imagine.
They not only play with Europe, but also try to play with the United States themselves
and within the US there is a front of those who are trying to save the dollar and who are trying,
let's say, with the military complex, the Pentagon, to save this North American hegemony,
but even Washington and London come with good eyes that this comes down better and it is very
possible that the dollar stops being the international currency when China, India,
the BRICS in general stop negotiating their commercial exchanges in dollars and make it
another currency, make it Yen, make it Yuan, make it Euro, make it what it is and if Europe makes the same,
then the use of the dollar for the exchange decreases, then the demand for the dollar
decreases and the dollar loses its role as an international currency.
What currency are we going to have? The Bankers of Wall Street and London are looking for a
blue currency, a blue juste, while China and Russia are looking for more money,
they are looking for a multi-polar world that does not happen, that stays within the national borders
because this speculative capital of London and New York, especially, is a capital without borders
or citizens, that is, they want to have a power beyond the countries that there are only
colonized countries, that there are no colonizers, that is, that from the concentration and power
and power of the bank, they can, let's say, dominate the world.
I don't think they will triumph because of the fact that you can't subordinate China and Russia
by looking at the truth, because they don't have it, they are countries that have a super habit, everyone
from China, so to speak, so to say, to a country that you must, you cannot subordinate it, but through
a direct eventual conflict, so in that sense, I don't think that the London-New York axis is going to
triumph, but it is through a war, it is also based on, at the same time, spontaneously, as it is called,
a tense international geopolitical situation, because in Europe, you can still have it in the
city, so to speak, through the speculative game, I don't know how much, you can have it in the
city, they don't need to do much, they do it in China, in India, I don't know how much, in Europe,
the dollar is going to lose its weight, it doesn't mean that there will be no dollar, it will no longer have
the role of the international currency and probably not of reserve, there are also new ways
of making war today, and I don't know how familiar is the public with what it is called ARP, HAARP,
which is the possibility of creating earthquakes from the antennas that are in Alaska, and for example,
around the fact that China and Japan agreed to change only their trade, their business,
in Yenise or in Yohan, less than five days later there was a earthquake, where are the
nuclear centers in Japan, the Minister of Finance said, they put us the little machine,
he referred to the antennas in Alaska, Russia also has them, and the program is called SURA,
that is, today, the weapons of massive destruction are not only missiles, nuclear issue, they can
make a nuclear war by attacking the nuclear centers in the countries that are not aligning themselves.
We also have to know that the military bases, especially North American, are concentrated
where the natural resources are, and that should not be random, this is obviously
very coldly calculated, and also where it is, as it is called, all the water reserve of the Guarani project,
where Paraguay, Brazil, and there will be a war of water, but I think it will be more popular,
instead of the oil war, I think. If there is a water shortage in Bolivia, it was through
the water, the first major insurrection in Cochabamba, then the water war can be a war
also from below, if you remove the water from the people, you immediately have a social conflict
of proportions that for the oil is very far from my own existence as a human being,
then very different is the question of water than the question of oil, it can be much more
revolutionary the answer around a war of water than around a war of oil.
The rebellion will always be present, I think that in Latin America, even the
indigenous populations in Bolivia and Ecuador are questioning their governments that have
an alternative project, it is a fact, and the basic point is that they have also entered
in the extractivist policy that has increased, although together with the countries of South America
they do not even equip what brings Brazil, but Brazil is almost a continent, you have to
say it like that, but you also have to think of the absolute dimensions and relative dimensions
for a country like Ecuador, an extraction of square roots that Brazil can have the same effect.
So the indigenous communities are pressing like no other, but also in countries where
there are no indigenous communities, the social struggles are concentrated around, in Latin America,
around what is called the natural resources or the territory where the natural resources are.
China has a position, look at these natural resources, they will be for our project and in
Latin America there is a distorted tendency with the Pacific Alliance, what I mentioned,
but towards a unification of Latin America, especially South America, around the destiny
of these natural resources, which is more for the project itself and less to export it
abruptly to the central countries, and that changes the rationality, because if there is no
for the north, then at some point it will have to happen that the use will have to be more
collective of the resources, the use will be of mature products, and that chokes with the
entrepreneurial idea of growing and growing and winning and winning, so there is,
so to speak, the limit of capitalism in the middle.
The fact that we have finite natural resources and that we are not going to bring them from
March of the night to the morning, not even 100 years, I think, to put it that way, this fact also limits the possibilities of accumulation when the resources
end in a progressive way, that is, to be able to accumulate, either with 1% or with 20% or more,
but the central reason for the capital, without growth, there is no possibility of accumulation,
that is, there is an external limit that was not even at the end of the 1930s,
it was not even at the end of the earth.
If I am going to talk to indigenous communities, look, we have to stop consuming,
look, they send you the shit that you are talking about, you are talking very clearly,
that is a framework, we have to know, say, here you can have that discourse in a clear way and for most people,
there you have to know who you are directing, look, sit down with the rear on the mines,
I don't know how much, because that can change the rationality, they do understand that there,
but say, look, you have to consume less, those who have less, look, I send you the shit out of a single leg.
Growth, obviously, is basically for 20% that consumes 80% of the resources,
if this 20% had products that have double life, they would only need 40% and there would be a possibility
of growth in the south with growth in the north for a long time, to attend precisely the excluded.
If we talk about the south, look, we have collective consumption and not individual consumption,
immediately agree with you, if you say, look, you have to consume less, each individual will send you the shit,
if you understand the difference, here you can say, more easily we have to consume less each one of us
and be more responsible and there I can say, look, it would be important that there were,
let's say, buses that there were instead of a lot of cars and people on the street without being able to transport
or anything, I don't know how much, that is, you have to be located for the speech in one place or another.
Historically, it has been like this in Mexico, at least I know it very clearly in Mexico,
everything that moves, eats, right? And well, the question is if it is going to be for everyone, right?
And Monsanto with his, as it is called, all his chemical, transgenic and well,
all the agriculture is plagued and herbicide, I don't know how much, that would have to end, because only then would the insects prosper.
If there is no reproduction of the seed genetically manipulated, it means that you have to buy it again.
It is like having the cart and having to buy another new one, and now it is not in terms of a very hard day,
something to eat, you have to buy the seed again.
With the engraving of where there are seeds genetically manipulated, the others were taken out.
And the cradle of the Mexican corn is at this moment one of the main carriers of transgenic corn.
It is, damn it, the cradle of the combs, total madness of the system.
The same thing happens with the rice in Indonesia, which is one of the cunas of the rice of civilization,
and they import large quantities of industrial rice, transgenic rice, Egypt, cunas,
from biblical times of the tribe.
It imports transgenically manipulated wheat today as one of the main carriers of genetically manipulated wheat.
This world goes up, as they say.
